How do we PREVENT and TREAT BPD??!!- Tala Talks NICU — Transcript
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- 0:02[Music]
- 0:04caffeine is an absolutely fantastic drug
- 0:07and i'm not just saying that because i
- 0:09love coffee so much
- 0:14hello and welcome to tala talks nikki
- 0:17where we take
- 0:18medical concepts and make them super
- 0:21easy for you to understand
- 0:23today we are going to go over the second
- 0:26part of bpd so if you haven't watched
- 0:28the first part go back and watch that
- 0:31today we are going to be talking about
- 0:34one the prevention of bpd
- 0:36two the treatment of bpd and three
- 0:40outcomes of patients that have bpd so
- 0:42before we continue i'm going to ask you
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- 0:49overall neonatal content right let's
- 0:52start with number one how do we prevent
- 0:55bpd
- 0:56so as i already said hopefully everybody
- 0:58watching this video has already watched
- 1:00part one where we go over all the risk
- 1:03factors for bpd so logically if you
- 1:06decrease all the risk factors for bpd
- 1:08then you will prevent bpd so the most
- 1:12important effective way to prevent bpd
- 1:15is to prevent pre-term birth
- 1:18if in your unit there aren't any babies
- 1:20born below 28 weeks then you've probably
- 1:23got a very low incidence of bpd in your
- 1:26unit
- 1:26so do whatever you can to reduce preterm
- 1:30births
- 1:31if you can figure out how to do that
- 1:32that's fantastic
- 1:34in the meantime one of the most
- 1:36important things that you can do in the
- 1:38unit to prevent bpd is to decrease the
- 1:41amount of injury to the lungs so the
- 1:44first way to decrease injury to the
- 1:46lungs is by giving babies as little
- 1:49pressure or volume support that they
- 1:53need that will still sustain them so you
- 1:55are trying to reduce
- 1:57volume trauma and barotrauma so put
- 2:00babies on the lowest amount of support
- 2:02that they may need and then try to wean
- 2:04them aggressively if they seem weanable
- 2:07like we've said before it would seem
- 2:09logical that babies that were put on
- 2:12high frequency ventilation whether it's
- 2:13the jet or the oscillator would have
- 2:16less barotrauma and volume trauma and so
- 2:18you'd think that that would translate in
- 2:20studies to a lower risk of bpd however
- 2:24it's been really difficult to prove in
- 2:25these studies that putting preemies on
- 2:29high frequency ventilation categorically
- 2:31decreases the rate of bpd and honestly
- 2:33probably the reason for that is that
- 2:35there's so much practice variation
- 2:37between different practices even
- 2:39probably between different providers
- 2:41that even though theoretically it might
- 2:43provide a benefit it's just been really
- 2:45difficult to prove in the literature
- 2:47where we stand now is that it is
- 2:50encouraged that the unit should get used
- 2:52to one device whether it is the jet or
- 2:55the oscillator or even the conventional
- 2:57ventilator and try to use it in an
- 3:00optimal way to reduce the volume trauma
- 3:02and the barotrauma for these babies so
- 3:04basically giving the lowest amount of
- 3:06support weaning aggressively trying to
- 3:09get those endotracheal tubes out as soon
- 3:11as possible so what about surfactant
- 3:13decreasing or preventing bpd so when
- 3:16surfactant was first studied what it was
- 3:18trying to prove was that it decreased
- 3:20rds and yes the initial studies
- 3:23definitely showed that when you give
- 3:25surfactant there is a reduction in rds
- 3:28and a cochrane study in 1998 done showed
- 3:32that giving surfactant also decreased
- 3:34the rates of bpd presumably by
- 3:37decreasing that aggressive initial rds
- 3:40so this is pretty much what we used to
- 3:42do with all micro preemies if they were
- 3:44born we used to intubate them and give
- 3:46them surfactant then in about 2010 the
- 3:49results of the support study were
- 3:50published and the support trial compared
- 3:54giving cpap to intubating babies and
- 3:56giving them surfactant and it was found
- 3:59that the two groups didn't really differ
- 4:01that much in their rates of bpd it was
- 4:03really this trial and a few other trials
- 4:06around it that really changed our
- 4:08delivery room management and now we
- 4:09don't routinely intubate premature
- 4:12babies in the delivery room also by
- 4:14extension this also kind of shows that
- 4:16surfactant is not instrumental in
- 4:19decreasing the incidence of bpd but as
- 4:22you all know often these babies that are
- 4:24not intubated than delivery room so
- 4:26they're on cpap and they come up to the
- 4:28unit and very soon they've got very high
- 4:31fio2 needs or they've got a very high
- 4:33co2 and they do need intubation it's
- 4:36been shown that in these micro preemies
- 4:38if you are intubating them and they do
- 4:41need surfactant the earlier that you
- 4:43give them the surfactant the lower the
- 4:45likelihood of bpd so even though
- 4:48surfactant initially doesn't necessarily
- 4:51prevent bpd if you've established that
- 4:53the baby needs it the sooner that you
- 4:55give it the better it is in protecting
- 4:58you from getting bpd so what will be
- 5:00interesting in the future is
- 5:02what do we do with those group of babies
- 5:05that don't necessarily qualify for
- 5:07surfactant administration so say you've
- 5:09got a 26 weeker with a grainy x-ray on
- 5:12cpap but is on fio2 of like 30 percent
- 5:16and is has a co2 of let's say 61. so not
- 5:21a slam dunk you have to intubate and
- 5:23give surfactant to this baby but now as
- 5:25you all know we are giving surfactant in
- 5:28a less invasive way or the acronym for
- 5:31that is less invasive surfactant
- 5:33administration or lisa
- 5:35lisa on paper has two advantages and the
- 5:38first one is is that you're not actually
- 5:40intubating the baby you're just putting
- 5:42a little catheter through the vocal
- 5:44cords and so that's the first advantage
- 5:47that you there's less likelihood of like
- 5:49irritating the vocal cords
- 5:50the second advantage is is that you
- 5:53basically just push the surfactant down
- 5:56a syringe and you're just squirting it
- 5:58down that tube into the lungs you're not
- 6:00bagging it
- 6:02after you intubate the baby so because
- 6:04you're not bagging it which is
- 6:06associated with positive pressure
- 6:08ventilation injury you are not creating
- 6:11any barotrauma so there's kind of a hope
- 6:14that the lisa will be less invasive and
- 6:17will be less traumatic for the infants
- 6:20and hopefully translate to a lower
- 6:21incidence of bpd so the question as we
- 6:24go into the future will be are we going
- 6:27to lower the threshold for giving these
- 6:29babies surfactant because we're less
- 6:31concerned about any damage that the
- 6:33actual administration will give the
- 6:36second way to decrease injury to the
- 6:38lungs is by preventing high oxygen
- 6:41exposure to the lungs so anybody that's
- 6:44been in neonatology for the last 10 or
- 6:4620 years will have followed the very
- 6:48interesting debate that we've had about
- 6:50ideal oxygen saturations in neonates
- 6:53it's been known for some time that
- 6:56shooting for high oxygen saturation so
- 6:58basically the baby's sating at 100 the
- 7:00whole time can increase the risk of bpd
- 7:03as well as rop
- 7:05but we weren't really sure what sort of
- 7:07ideal oxygen saturations we should be
- 7:09targeting
- 7:10two large studies were published the
- 7:12boost trial as well as the support trial
- 7:14which basically compared lower
- 7:17saturation targets versus slightly
- 7:19higher saturation targets and
- 7:21interestingly or kind of expectedly kind
- 7:24of the trials found that even though the
- 7:27lower oxygen saturation parameters
- 7:29resulted in lower rop and bpd they were
- 7:33also associated with increased mortality
- 7:36so increased deaths as well as to a
- 7:38certain extent worsen
- 7:40neurological outcomes so now we're not
- 7:43really sure exactly where we should be
- 7:44keeping saturations probably not always
- 7:47in the 80s we don't want them constantly
- 7:48staying at 85 percent and we definitely
- 7:50don't want them staying at 99 to 100
- 7:53probably somewhere between 90 and 95
- 7:56percent or 90 and 94 is kind of ideal a
- 7:59lot of units have their alarm set
- 8:01between 88 and 95 or 96
- 8:05and the third way of decreasing injury
- 8:07to the lungs is by preventing
- 8:09inflammation so i'm not going to spend a
- 8:11long time on this just for you to all
- 8:14realize that the more inflammation that
- 8:17the lungs go through the higher the
- 8:20chance of developing bpd and bad bpd so
- 8:23if the infant was exposed to
- 8:26choreoamnionitis prenatally that
- 8:28increases the risk of bpd if the infant
- 8:31has sepsis or pneumonia or necrotizing
- 8:33enterocolitis or even has to go through
- 8:36surgeries all of those are associated
- 8:38with increased inflammation and will
- 8:41increase the incidence of bpd so
- 8:43whatever you can do to prevent all of
- 8:45those would be fantastic as we always
- 8:47say the smoother the course in the unit
- 8:50the better the outcome in survival and
- 8:53all morbidities really and just as a
- 8:55reminder the sooner you get that
- 8:57endotracheal tube out the lower the risk
- 9:00of the infant getting pneumonia so
- 9:02another great reason to try to get those
- 9:04um babies extubated in addition to
- 9:07preventing injury to the lungs what else
- 9:09can we do to prevent ppd
- 9:11now we're going to go over the
- 9:13importance of giving good nutrition of
- 9:16vitamin a kind of
- 9:17of caffeine and then briefly we'll cover
- 9:20steroids a very hot topic in neonatology
- 9:23let's start with good nutrition as we
- 9:26talked about in the first video
- 9:28ultimately to get babies off oxygen
- 9:30support the babies have to grow
- 9:33larger healthier lungs so obviously
- 9:37really good nutrition plays a really
- 9:39important role in preventing bpd
- 9:42numerous studies have supported this one
- 9:45study showed that in infants who had
- 9:47received lower cumulative protein
- 9:50carbohydrates and fats in the first 14
- 9:53days of life had a much higher incidence
- 9:55of bpd than infants that had received
- 9:58much better nutrition another study in a
- 10:01total of about 700 patients found
- 10:04that as the weight gain every day
- 10:07improved the incidence to bpd also
- 10:10decreased and interestingly another
- 10:12study showed that in infants who were
- 10:15exclusively formula fed and these were
- 10:17infants at less than 1500 grams they had
- 10:20a increased risk of developing bpd by
- 10:23about two and a half times as compared
- 10:26to infants who were breastfed so
- 10:28excellent nutrition is really important
- 10:30in preventing bpd early good nutrition
- 10:33with protein and fats and carbohydrates
- 10:35and preferably breast milk is really
- 10:37important and good weight gain every day
- 10:41let's talk about vitamin a so what is
- 10:44the importance of vitamin a it has been
- 10:46known for a long time that vitamin a is
- 10:49important for lung growth and it's
- 10:51important to keep the epithelial cells
- 10:54that lie in the respiratory tract
- 10:56functioning well it's also been known
- 10:58that pre-term infants that have a
- 11:01vitamin a deficiency at birth have an
- 11:04increased risk of developing bpd
- 11:07so it was suggested that giving vitamin
- 11:10a exogenously so you actually administer
- 11:13vitamin a may decrease the incidence of
- 11:15bpd and actually a large matter analysis
- 11:18found that when infants were given
- 11:21vitamin a over the course of several
- 11:23weeks soon after they were born there
- 11:25was a slightly decreased incidence of
- 11:27bpd but giving vitamin a kind of did
- 11:30fall out of favor and most centers don't
- 11:32actually give vitamin a now it's kind of
- 11:34a risk benefit analysis the first reason
- 11:38why we don't routinely give vitamin a
- 11:40now is that the follow-up studies at 18
- 11:42to 22 months showed that in infants
- 11:44given vitamin a versus those that
- 11:46weren't there wasn't like a significant
- 11:48change in neurodevelopmental outcomes
- 11:50and the second one is the way that we
- 11:52give the vitamin a basically it's an
- 11:54intramuscular injection and it's given
- 11:57kind of three four times a week for
- 11:59about four weeks all the studies had
- 12:01kind of slightly different dosages so
- 12:04it's not a completely painless procedure
- 12:07to give to a tiny baby that hardly has
- 12:09any muscles at all and knowing that it
- 12:12isn't probably going to improve
- 12:13neurodevelopmental outcomes made the
- 12:16whole process of giving vitamin a just
- 12:18kind of fall out of favor i think an
- 12:20important way to interpret this data is
- 12:22that we need to make sure that babies
- 12:24get excellent nutrition and get all
- 12:26their vitamins as soon as possible okay
- 12:28what about caffeine caffeine is an
- 12:31absolutely fantastic drug and i'm not
- 12:34just saying that because i love coffee
- 12:36so much black coffee with no cream or
- 12:38sugar if anybody ever wants to bring me
- 12:40a coffee
- 12:41but it is probably the most well studied
- 12:44drug in the unit not only does caffeine
- 12:48decrease the incidence of apnea
- 12:50bradycardia so it decreased the amount
- 12:52of events that an infant is having it
- 12:55also has an anti-inflammatory effect so
- 12:57it's actually also been shown to
- 13:00decrease the incidence of bpd
- 13:03caffeine should be started in all babies
- 13:05born at less than 30 weeks of gestation
- 13:07and even in older babies if they have
- 13:09any respiratory issues and really the
- 13:12sooner you start the caffeine definitely
- 13:13less than three days of life the better
- 13:15it is for the babies and normally we
- 13:17start with a bolus dose of 20 makes per
- 13:20kilo and then we do a maintenance dose
- 13:22cue 24 hours of 10 mix per kilo per day
- 13:25the even better thing about caffeine is
- 13:28that many of the follow-up studies that
- 13:30were done on caffeine versus control
- 13:33infants showed that the infants that
- 13:35received caffeine if anything had
- 13:37slightly improved neurodevelopmental
- 13:40outcomes as the babies got even older
- 13:42kind of up to 10 years of age some of
- 13:44these improvements kind of fell off but
- 13:47still we can feel pretty good that if
- 13:49anything caffeine is better for
- 13:51developmental outcomes and is definitely
- 13:53not worse okay now let's talk about
- 13:56steroids we'll talk about it briefly
- 13:57here and then i'll talk about it a
- 13:58little bit later in the treatment
- 14:01and really it's such a huge like hot
- 14:04topic in neonatology that really
- 14:06steroids probably deserve the video of
- 14:09their own especially since we all have
- 14:11such a love-hate relationship with
- 14:13steroids so as you all know steroids
- 14:16decrease inflammation so it would be
- 14:19very logical to assume that since
- 14:21inflammation is such a huge part of the
- 14:23development of bpd that giving steroids
- 14:26could therefore reduce ppd and this is
- 14:30true if steroids are given generally
- 14:32they are associated with the reduced
- 14:34incidence of bpd so in the 1980s and the
- 14:371990s steroids were generally given for
- 14:40long courses and they were effectively
- 14:42found to reduce the incidence of bpd but
- 14:45as more studies were published it showed
- 14:48that the infants that had received the
- 14:50steroids had worse developmental
- 14:52outcomes than the infants that had
- 14:54received steroids they were shorter the
- 14:57infants that had received steroids they
- 14:58had smaller head circumferences they had
- 15:00increased risk of cerebral palsy and
- 15:02they had lower bailey scores so
- 15:05immediately everybody started panicking
- 15:07and thinking okay we should not be
- 15:09giving routine steroids at all to babies
- 15:12and in fact in 2002 the aap the american
- 15:15academy of pediatrics came out with a
- 15:17policy statement and said we should not
- 15:20be giving routine steroids to premature
- 15:22infants the problem is is that now since
- 15:26then more and more infants tiny infants
- 15:29have been surviving and bpd is still a
- 15:32huge issue and we know that if a baby
- 15:35has really bad bpd then that in itself
- 15:39is going to give really bad
- 15:40neurodevelopmental outcomes
- 15:42so
- 15:43we would like to be able to use steroids
- 15:46to decrease the incidence of at least
- 15:48that severe bpd whether it's to get a
- 15:50baby off the ventilator or just decrease
- 15:53the amount of oxygen that the baby's
- 15:54exposed to or to kind of avoid a trach
- 15:57in an infant and so
- 15:59different studies have kind of
- 16:01experimented with different courses of
- 16:03steroids to see what would be ideal to
- 16:07decrease the incidence of bpd but
- 16:09hopefully not negatively impact
- 16:12developmental outcomes and the aap
- 16:15actually revised their statement in 2010
- 16:18and they said that there may actually be
- 16:21a few babies especially those born at
- 16:23like less than 1500 grams and those that
- 16:26are still intubated in a week that
- 16:28really may benefit from steroids just
- 16:30because those babies were at such a high
- 16:32incidence of developing bpd and bpd is
- 16:35really bad for developmental outcomes
- 16:37for example one of the studies done to
- 16:39kind of show that babies could get
- 16:41extubated and hopefully reduce bpd was
- 16:44the dart trial which was dexamethasone a
- 16:48randomized trial which showed that a
- 16:5010-day course of dexamethasone could
- 16:53probably get babies excavated sooner and
- 16:56hopefully didn't really have bad
- 16:59neurodevelopmental outcomes
- 17:01two kind of fully cover stories if you
- 17:03want to read more by yourself then i
- 17:05would recommend three recent articles
- 17:09the first one was published in the
- 17:10journal of perinatology in 2021 and it's
- 17:13an excellent review article of all the
- 17:15different steroids that are used in the
- 17:17prevention and treatment of
- 17:19bpd the second article and we've linked
- 17:22to all of these below is a recent study
- 17:24published in the new england journal
- 17:26that was a
- 17:27trial that compared giving infants 10
- 17:30days of hydrocortisone versus not giving
- 17:33any steroids to those infants and it
- 17:35found that the infants that have
- 17:37received hydrocortisone didn't really
- 17:39have a decreased incidence of bpd but it
- 17:41also didn't affect their
- 17:42neurodevelopmental outcome and the third
- 17:45study is another policy statement just
- 17:47published in pediatrics by the aap and
- 17:50again it just kind of goes over the
- 17:51recent evidence of steroids in the
- 17:53prevention and treatment of bpd so all
- 17:56those links are below i would highly
- 17:57encourage you to read through them all
- 17:59together what i want you to take from
- 18:01this is that
- 18:03babies should not be routinely receiving
- 18:05steroids however there are a select
- 18:08group of premature infants that may
- 18:11benefit from short courses preferably
- 18:13low doses of steroids the question is
- 18:15we're not exactly still sure which
- 18:18steroids which doses and which babies
- 18:20okay
- 18:21moving on to part two which is how do we
- 18:24treat bpd
- 18:26so like we said in the first video
- 18:28the
- 18:29diagnosis of bpd is mostly a clinical
- 18:31one and really we call it bpd when an
- 18:34infant is still needing oxygen at 36
- 18:37weeks corrected gestational age so by
- 18:39definition a lot of the treatment of bpd
- 18:43will probably be in the outpatient
- 18:45setting but
- 18:47very often we can predict which babies
- 18:49are going to have bpd way before 36
- 18:51weeks so we're kind of already starting
- 18:53to treat babies in the nicu so i'm
- 18:55briefly going to go over the different
- 18:57treatments that we use and what sort of
- 18:59evidence we have for them which in a
- 19:00nutshell not a lot of evidence
- 19:02so
- 19:03the first big part of treatment is
- 19:05obviously giving the baby the oxygen
- 19:07support that they need you don't want
- 19:09them to become acidotic because they
- 19:11lack the oxygen so most of the time
- 19:13you're giving them the support whether
- 19:15it's the nasal cannula or the cpap or
- 19:17the ventilator as well as the oxygen the
- 19:20fio2 that they need to keep the sats
- 19:22really above about 90 percent by the
- 19:25time the babies get older and at a
- 19:27higher risk of bpd you generally want to
- 19:29keep the sats a little bit higher just
- 19:32because you're more worried about the
- 19:33development of pulmonary hypertension
- 19:35that can happen with lower oxygenation
- 19:37fats we
- 19:38really want the co2s to be in the
- 19:4140s or 50s or 60s as you all know we all
- 19:45practice a bit of permissive hypercapnia
- 19:47which is where we allow the co2s go
- 19:49higher to go higher just because we
- 19:51don't want to beat up the lungs further
- 19:53trying to bring those co2s down so
- 19:55sometimes we'll even accept co2s up to
- 19:58the 70s just in a desperate attempt to
- 20:00get the babies off
- 20:02extra support so that we're not banging
- 20:05up their lungs even more
- 20:07in the u.s we will send babies home on
- 20:09oxygen generally we send them home on
- 20:11pure oxygen so it's 100 oxygen and it's
- 20:14not blended and generally we will send
- 20:16them home if they are on less than 0.5
- 20:19liters ideally and usually honestly we
- 20:22send them home at between 0.1 and 0.2
- 20:25liters per minute if we can't get a baby
- 20:28of positive pressure ventilation then
- 20:30eventually a decision has to be made of
- 20:32how we can get this baby home
- 20:34and
- 20:35one of the options is to insert a
- 20:37tracheostomy and send a baby home on
- 20:39positive pressure whether it's cpap or
- 20:42more commonly a ventilator obviously
- 20:44this is not a decision that we take
- 20:46lightly and so even after a baby had the
- 20:50tracheostomy placed they're still in
- 20:52hospital for another four to six weeks
- 20:54after that just with all the um healing
- 20:57that needs to be done of the
- 20:58tracheostomy as well as all the training
- 21:00that needs to be done for the family
- 21:02before they go home so by definition
- 21:05you're already adding another one month
- 21:07or two by making the decision to place
- 21:10the tracheostomy so if you can get the
- 21:12baby to kind of home oxygen by then then
- 21:14obviously the trait shouldn't be placed
- 21:16generally we will move forward with a
- 21:18trach if the infants are about 44 weeks
- 21:20gestational age or above that and are
- 21:22really not making any improvements in
- 21:24their respiratory support if they're
- 21:26making improvements even if they're
- 21:27still on high vent support then we will
- 21:30still try to push them forward out of
- 21:32all the preemies that are trached um at
- 21:35birth or before discharge they are
- 21:37generally have their traits decannilated
- 21:39or removed by the time that they're
- 21:41about three years old so it's still not
- 21:43a lifelong issue or a not a lifelong
- 21:46operation that a infant with bpd would
- 21:49have because as you all know there's
- 21:51still a lot of lung growth in those
- 21:53first three years of life the second
- 21:55thing that's very important in the
- 21:57treatment of these babies with bpd is
- 21:58that we provide excellent nutrition so
- 22:02as we've said many times if a baby has
- 22:04bpd there's a high chance that they're
- 22:06breathing faster and breathing harder so
- 22:09really they need more calories just for
- 22:11that on top of that we don't want to
- 22:14fluid overload them because we don't
- 22:16want to make the lungs wet which white
- 22:18might make the bpd worse so often we'll
- 22:21put these babies on higher calories so
- 22:23like 26 or 28 or even 30 calories per
- 22:26ounce
- 22:27and on lower volume so say 130 or 140 ml
- 22:30per kilo per day to try to maximize all
- 22:33the calories and their nutritional
- 22:35intake without fluid overloading them
- 22:37okay what about inhaled steroids like
- 22:40budesonite or palmicort or fluticasone
- 22:43again there really isn't a lot of
- 22:46evidence to show that these help
- 22:48decrease the incidence to bpd or even
- 22:50necessarily treat or help bpd while
- 22:53babies are in the unit however as babies
- 22:56get older and leave the hospital some
- 22:58studies have shown that these inhaled
- 23:00steroids may decrease some of the
- 23:02symptoms of bpd like increased worker
- 23:04breathing or wheezing and so generally
- 23:07once the babies go home they are pretty
- 23:09much put on the inhaled steroids so we
- 23:12will kind of push that back and if we
- 23:14think that the baby is needing a lot of
- 23:16oxygen support then we will generally
- 23:18put babies on the inhaled steroids it's
- 23:21not very evidence-based though what
- 23:23about diuretics another really
- 23:25controversial topic so even though
- 23:28diuretics like a furosemide or
- 23:30hydrochlorothiazide has been shown to
- 23:33improve lung compliance like over the
- 23:35short term like especially if you have
- 23:36like as you all know a really wet lung
- 23:38you give a shot of lasix the baby pees
- 23:40it out and starts breathing easier
- 23:43however long-term diuretic use has not
- 23:46been shown to decrease the incidence of
- 23:47bpd or decrease the number of days that
- 23:50the infant is on oxygen there was
- 23:52actually the one recent study that
- 23:55showed that infants that had received
- 23:57more lasix or furosemide after uh seven
- 24:00days of life did have a slightly
- 24:02decreased incidence of bpd and i'll put
- 24:04the link to that study below
- 24:06what's even more concerning about this
- 24:08clear-cut data with diuretics is that as
- 24:11you all know diuretics also have a lot
- 24:14of bad side effects so they can cause a
- 24:16lot of electrolyte abnormalities so low
- 24:19sodium and low potassium and a metabolic
- 24:22alkalosis they can leech out the bones
- 24:24and make the osteopenia worse they can
- 24:27cause nephrocalcinosis as well
- 24:29so again despite not very overwhelmingly
- 24:33positive data and quite a few side
- 24:35effects
- 24:36we often use diuretics in the unit even
- 24:39if it's for short-term use just to help
- 24:42with the fluid balance especially if a
- 24:44baby does have a lingering pda it will
- 24:47be interesting to see where these
- 24:49studies land in the future
- 24:51and then coming back to steroids for the
- 24:53treatment of bpd
- 24:55again we're not really sure which
- 24:58steroids to use and the two steroids
- 25:00that we generally talk about are
- 25:02dexamethasone which is really a pure
- 25:05glucocorticoid
- 25:06and that's thought to kind of like
- 25:08affect the lungs a lot more
- 25:10or hydrocortisone which is a
- 25:12glucocorticoid and a mineral corticoid
- 25:15so that will kind of help with blood
- 25:17pressures as well as like with a direct
- 25:19effect on the lungs so we're not really
- 25:22sure which steroids to use we're not
- 25:24really sure which doses to use and we're
- 25:26not really sure how long to use them for
- 25:28as the babies get older then we're more
- 25:30likely to use a prednisone as well
- 25:33so
- 25:34as
- 25:35we practice now generally many of the
- 25:37units in america if the babies are
- 25:39really really young especially if
- 25:40they've got blood pressure issues
- 25:42they're more likely to use the
- 25:43hydrocortisone if we're trying to get
- 25:45babies off the ventilator and they're
- 25:48not really having blood pressure issues
- 25:50or anything else then we're more likely
- 25:51to use the dexamethasone and if the
- 25:54baby's on like two liters high flow
- 25:56nasal cannula and we're trying to get
- 25:57them to home oxygen or they're still on
- 26:00the cpap and we're trying to get them
- 26:01off that then we're much more likely to
- 26:03use like a prednisone so again hopefully
- 26:07we'll have more information in the
- 26:08future about exactly which steroids and
- 26:11how much to use right so part three
- 26:14let's talk about long-term outcomes of
- 26:16infants with bpd and as usual as you all
- 26:19know this is really what we care the
- 26:20most about in the nicu we want normal
- 26:23healthy babies at home
- 26:25so obviously the first thing is these
- 26:27babies have respiratory symptoms even
- 26:30after they get off oxygen they're more
- 26:32likely to have tachypnea breathing fast
- 26:35increased worker breathing they're more
- 26:37likely to have wheezing and shortness of
- 26:39breath they're
- 26:41a higher tendency to get infections
- 26:44especially pneumonias and they're also
- 26:46at a much higher likelihood of being
- 26:48readmitted to the hospital because of
- 26:51getting that infection so if an infant
- 26:54gets a cold if an infant with a bpd gets
- 26:56a cold they're much more likely to end
- 26:58up in hospital because their lungs are
- 27:00weaker and in fact infants with bpd have
- 27:03about a 50 percent readmission rate to
- 27:06the hospital within that first year of
- 27:08life generally though as infants with
- 27:11bpd get older and their lungs grow
- 27:14then the symptoms kind of go down
- 27:17but in the longest study that's been
- 27:20done the kind of longest follow-up study
- 27:22that's been done so far about 25 of
- 27:26adolescents in young adults with bpd
- 27:28still had symptoms of bpd so they still
- 27:32had increased wheezing and increased
- 27:34coughing and increased usage of
- 27:36medications as compared to
- 27:38adults who never had bpd
- 27:41school children with a history of bpd
- 27:44also had have been shown to have
- 27:46decreased exercise tolerance and
- 27:48decreased aerobic capacity as you all
- 27:50know with bad bpd you can also end up
- 27:53with pulmonary hypertension so the right
- 27:56side of the heart pumps to the lungs and
- 27:59when you have higher pressures in the
- 28:01lungs that right side of the heart can
- 28:03get tired or can get hypertrophied and
- 28:06the pressure on the right side can also
- 28:07go up this is kind of a right-sided
- 28:10heart failure
- 28:12or core pulmonal
- 28:13in fact in about 50 percent of
- 28:16children who had bpd when they were
- 28:19infants
- 28:20they were found to still have
- 28:23electrocardiographics so on that ekg
- 28:26they were found to have some level of
- 28:28rvh as compared to
- 28:30children who'd never had bpd so even
- 28:33though eventually the heart gets
- 28:35remodeled and hopefully eventually these
- 28:37pressures go away it takes many many
- 28:39years for all the changes to actually
- 28:42occur
- 28:43but just to emphasize most patients that
- 28:47had a history of bpd especially mild bpd
- 28:50can go on to lead completely healthy
- 28:52lives and even if they don't have
- 28:54excellent exercise tolerance they can
- 28:56still exercise and perform all the
- 28:58duties that would require an excellent
- 29:00quality of life
- 29:01what we do need to be worried about
- 29:03moving forward is how these infants with
- 29:06bpd are at increased risk for pulmonary
- 29:08complications later in their lives are
- 29:10there increased risk for chronic
- 29:12obstructive lung disease for example
- 29:14like adult versions of lung disease and
- 29:18so these infants should really go out of
- 29:20their way to protect their lungs as much
- 29:22as possible they should these kids
- 29:24should categorically not be smoking or
- 29:26be exposed to secondhand smoke also they
- 29:29should as much as be possible be
- 29:31immunized they should receive all their
- 29:34immunizations against the really scary
- 29:36like lung infections pneumonia and
- 29:39whooping cough as well as when they're
- 29:41young even rsv or respiratory syncytial
- 29:44virus our second concern or concerning
- 29:47outcome is growth failure it's not a
- 29:50huge step to think that because we're so
- 29:52worried about fluid overloading these
- 29:54babies and because they have such high
- 29:56metabolic demands that they may not be
- 29:59growing as effectively in length or as
- 30:01weight as babies without bpd and in fact
- 30:05especially earlier studies have shown
- 30:07that infants with bpd were not as tall
- 30:09or had a higher incidence of failure to
- 30:12thrive as compared to infants without
- 30:13ppd however i will say that a lot of
- 30:16those studies were published earlier in
- 30:18the in the thousands and in the 90s and
- 30:20now probably because we know the
- 30:22importance of nutrition
- 30:24it is thought that maybe the differences
- 30:27in weight are not so much to do with bpd
- 30:29but the fact that they were smaller
- 30:31babies in the first place
- 30:33and then probably the most important
- 30:35outcome is the neurodevelopmental
- 30:36outcome so like we've said throughout
- 30:39this talk and through many of the other
- 30:40videos the worse the inflammatory
- 30:43process the worse the developmental
- 30:45outcome and this has been shown to be
- 30:47the same in bpd as well and it has been
- 30:50consistently shown that infants with bpd
- 30:52perform worse at every age as compared
- 30:55to infants without bpd
- 30:57and by the infants being about three
- 31:00years old about 20 percent of them will
- 31:03score less than 70 in cognitive and
- 31:06mental standard scoring tests so really
- 31:10anything that we can do to prevent bpd
- 31:12would be extremely beneficial well that
- 31:15was a lot of information you all did ask
- 31:17for it though go check out the links
- 31:19below and in the meantime please like
- 31:22this video and hopefully you'll
- 31:24subscribe to this channel thank you so
- 31:26much for being here
- 31:36[Music]
- 31:47you
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