How a Global Design Team Found Its Rhythm with Rayon | Rayon x Jarret Yoshida — Transcript
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- 0:00I'm Jared Yoshida and I have an interior
- 0:02design firm and we're based in New York
- 0:04and Honolulu. We have clients also in
- 0:07other cities across the world. We're
- 0:09very fortunate. We've been doing sort
- 0:12[music] of I guess the idea of remote
- 0:15work between Hawaii and New York thing
- 0:17for the last 20 years. So the technology
- 0:20the past five to 10 has really started
- 0:24to catch up to the way that I've worked
- 0:27and it has made my life so easy. It's
- 0:30made my team's life less complicated.
- 0:33Feeling grateful every day that tech is
- 0:37[music] finally where we want to be. 95%
- 0:40of our work tends to be residential.
- 0:42Well, 5% tends to be offices and our
- 0:46residential clients are either in
- 0:49apartments or in freestanding homes
- 0:53across the United States. Most of our
- 0:56work tends to be in apartments, which
- 0:58comes with a particularly challenging
- 1:00set of demands from building architects
- 1:05and supers and insurance companies. and
- 1:09Riion has been really helpful in helping
- 1:12us stay organized and responsive to what
- 1:15their needs are as well as our clients.
- 1:18I think the challenge we had before
- 1:20using Rion is having a software platform
- 1:24that was helpful when we have a team
- 1:27that's spread all over the world and
- 1:30often we're not working the same time.
- 1:33It may be asynchronous, right? or
- 1:35someone will do something at 9:00 a.m.
- 1:38New York time and then 9:00 p.m. New
- 1:40York time because of where they are in
- 1:41the time zone. or even if it's working
- 1:44at the same time, having two people be
- 1:47able to do that in a one office has been
- 1:51transforming in terms of our
- 1:54productivity, in terms of not making
- 1:57mistakes and saying, "Oh, I modified
- 2:00file A instead of file A3." Which is a
- 2:04perennial issue for anyone working in an
- 2:07architecture or interior design.
- 2:10It's one that Ran has really smoothed
- 2:12out for us so we can focus on making
- 2:15things beautiful now instead of did we
- 2:18work on the right file or and it happens
- 2:21even if you're really organized it
- 2:23really does happen and someone opens the
- 2:26wrong file accidentally right just human
- 2:29error it'll happen so Rayon has
- 2:32transformed that for us and we're really
- 2:35really happy we used to have all these
- 2:37different email threads heads or we
- 2:40would go ahead and say, "Ooh, wait,
- 2:43which drawing is the latest version?" As
- 2:45we're saying, right, that back and forth
- 2:48and the mistakes just really slowed us
- 2:52down and so we're just moving so much
- 2:55more quickly. It's been fantastic.
- 2:58What's happened is that with everything
- 3:00now in one place and with clear
- 3:03delineation of what's the most current,
- 3:05what's not, we're drawing, we're
- 3:08updating, and we're sharing plans in
- 3:10real time. [music] And so when we can
- 3:13add comments right on the file and edit
- 3:16it together, right, someone in New York,
- 3:19someone in Mexico, someone in Brazil,
- 3:22it's just such a huge timesaver. that if
- 3:26we have a tight deadline [music] that's
- 3:28been exposed on us, right, as happens
- 3:31with every firm, three people can gang
- 3:34up, divide it, fix it, check each
- 3:38other's work instantaneously.
- 3:40I mean, honestly, the way that we can
- 3:42style plans here just makes everything
- 3:46so much more visual, more engaging. also
- 3:50[music] that between that and the
- 3:54ability again to work at the same time,
- 3:57it's changed our lives and has changed
- 3:59it for the better. We were using
- 4:02AutoCAD and you know very old school and
- 4:06AutoCAD is great right in for some
- 4:10things for what it was but it's legacy
- 4:14software now. AutoCAD does not feel or
- 4:18act like the way offices need to, right?
- 4:22And when you work in design, you need to
- 4:24acknowledge how people live. You need to
- 4:26embrace in fact what people are doing
- 4:29with their homes, not say to people,
- 4:31hey, you should live like this. Rayon
- 4:34embodies that idea. People want to work
- 4:38remotely. People want to work on files
- 4:40at the same time. Our projects have two
- 4:44managers often, so we have overlap,
- 4:47right? So someone gets sick, someone
- 4:50else doesn't know what's happening. All
- 4:53of that really makes so much more
- 4:56valuable as a tool for us. Plus, it is a
- 4:59more beautiful client presentation tool
- 5:02for us as well. If segueing to that
- 5:04being one of our favorite features, if
- 5:06you will, it is obviously cloud-based
- 5:10workspaces are where we all want to be,
- 5:13right? But just as importantly is the
- 5:17interface now. It's so much easier to
- 5:20manipulate things for clients that they
- 5:22can understand it. So sometimes when
- 5:24they're having a question in real time
- 5:27like I will be here one of my associates
- 5:31will be let's say in Mexico City she is
- 5:34updating things for our clients in
- 5:36Hawaii and we're able to see and get
- 5:40everything together in a way that
- 5:42frankly the legacy software packages
- 5:45could not do. They were not as quick.
- 5:48The visual format was also not as easy
- 5:52to understand for our clients. So, Rayon
- 5:56has really helped with pushing deadlines
- 5:59more [music] quickly with making sure
- 6:01that clients can see the responsiveness
- 6:04which they love doing. Architecture and
- 6:06interior design is not a cheap date. So
- 6:10when clients can see work hard at being
- 6:13developed quickly, [music] it gives you
- 6:15the value of what they're paying for
- 6:18which does make bill paying I think a
- 6:20little more
- 6:21easy certainly less painful. [music] We
- 6:24can make layout changes in the middle of
- 6:27a meeting and we can style an updated
- 6:30plan right there on the spot and add
- 6:34comments for contractors. Sometimes just
- 6:37a lastm minute edit really in minutes
- 6:40and it feels more effortless for our
- 6:42drafts people and for our clients. That
- 6:45kind of speed, that kind of visual
- 6:48clarity just wasn't possible for us.
- 6:52Rayon has helped our actions to move
- 6:56more quickly, to be more understandable,
- 6:59[music]
- 7:00and it's been a really fantastic tool
- 7:03for the whole team. Our favorite
- 7:05projects tend to be with clients who are
- 7:08able to trust us with the design
- 7:11process. And I really want to be clear,
- 7:13obviously, [music] I want clients to
- 7:15have opinions. I want to share feedback.
- 7:18At a certain point, it is really helpful
- 7:21for clients to be able to say, "Okay,
- 7:24I'm not a designer. I work in finance. I
- 7:27work in law. I need to trust who I'm
- 7:30working with." And I've noticed that has
- 7:32been very true particularly when my
- 7:35first few clients, one of them ran W and
- 7:38Women's World Daily, which are huge
- 7:40fashion magazines. Another one was the
- 7:42head of PR at Vogue. The clients who
- 7:44understand [music]
- 7:45how creative people work and know not to
- 7:48second guess is always leading to a
- 7:52project that is going to be more
- 7:53beautiful that will take less billable
- 7:55time. Now to be clear, it is hard to do
- 7:59that for my own house. I had to
- 8:02surrender to my team. I said the same
- 8:04things that many of my clients do. So
- 8:06this is said without judgment. This was
- 8:08me, but my own house, right? 150 years
- 8:10old, brownstone. It was bad. It had been
- 8:13abandoned. It had been a drug den
- 8:15before. It was really horrible. Yeah. It
- 8:17It needed help, right? And so here's me
- 8:20to my team. Oh, Christina,
- 8:22do you think that's going to work out?
- 8:25Oh, that color seems so assertive. I
- 8:28don't know if I'm going to like that
- 8:29color. And they have to sit me down and
- 8:32be like, Jared, are you being for real
- 8:34right now? You're doing exactly what you
- 8:37see our clients do and you know does not
- 8:39lead to a good design result. I'm like,
- 8:42are you sure? And then I'm like, what
- 8:44are what do you mean? Am I sure? I've
- 8:45been doing this for 25 years. I am doing
- 8:47exactly what our clients do. And that
- 8:50reminder from them was so helpful,
- 8:53right? And we work with a team where I'm
- 8:55try to and I hope I have accomplished an
- 8:58environment where critique is open. It's
- 9:01honest. They do it in front of clients
- 9:02and they'll say, "Char, I think that
- 9:04this might work better." I'm like, "Oh
- 9:05my god, you're right." Or, "Ooh, maybe
- 9:07not because of blah blah blah." Right?
- 9:08But this conversation is very open. And
- 9:12so having clients that can be open to
- 9:15new ideas, having clients that are open
- 9:17to critique, and then ultimately having
- 9:20clients that can surrender in the same
- 9:22way that if I have to hire someone to
- 9:26help me redo my contract for clients at
- 9:29a certain point, I have to say, "Hey, I
- 9:33am not a lawyer." when I have my
- 9:36bookkeepers tell me these are the best
- 9:38practices for how to manage my finances
- 9:43I can ask questions and at a certain
- 9:45point right I need to listen and and
- 9:48defer and say hey I hired you because
- 9:50you know what you're doing so you know
- 9:52design is something where people think
- 9:55is subjective and it is to a certain
- 9:58point and then at that point it is
- 10:00helpful to be the kind of client in any
- 10:04situation ation whether it's design,
- 10:06bookkeeping, law, what have you, science
- 10:08and say all right I refer to you I
- 10:11definitely would say that about the
- 10:12client experience like the clients you
- 10:15can do that have the best result in
- 10:18terms of emotional investment money time
- 10:25aesthetic so that would be a little bit
- 10:27about us I guess and I think the other
- 10:29thing is
- 10:31because I'm fortunate to live all over
- 10:34right? Visited my team and also lived in
- 10:38Asia, Hawaii, all over North America. I
- 10:42don't have a particular aesthetic. Uh my
- 10:46first job was at the Smithsonian.
- 10:47[music] So I I learned there to really
- 10:49value most design aesthetics,
- 10:53if not all, except for maybe Memphis
- 10:55coming out of Italy in the 80s. I No,
- 10:58that's unreal. But other than that,
- 11:00being able to value a lot of different
- 11:03aesthetics means that I can understand
- 11:05our clients, what they want, our team
- 11:08and their own individual aesthetic
- 11:10preferences, how to align them, and then
- 11:12also how to guide them down the right
- 11:14channel in terms of creating something
- 11:17that will not only look good now, but
- 11:19will look good 25 years from now. And I
- 11:22I do know that having done this now for
- 11:2525 years, I am older in the field, which
- 11:28is alarming cuz it feels like I started
- 11:30just yesterday. My work from 2000 is
- 11:34actually on my website now. And none of
- 11:36my clients are ever able to guess which
- 11:39one it is ever. And that happens when
- 11:43you think about various design
- 11:46aesthetics and you mix them together and
- 11:49you try to come up with something that's
- 11:50personal for the client, not something
- 11:52that's a cliche page out of a catalog,
- 11:56no matter how trendy that is. And yeah,
- 11:59I know our clients value that from us as
- 12:02well. Surrendering the design of a home
- 12:04where you spend most of your time or at
- 12:06least you wish you spent most of your
- 12:08time, right?
- 12:10It's really challenging because you're
- 12:13caught up in all these fantasies, all
- 12:15the whatifs, and we're there to call
- 12:18through the whatifs, see what's actually
- 12:21valuable, and then make it happen within
- 12:23that budget. And it's tricky. The funny
- 12:27thing is, and and I'm not just saying
- 12:28this, I could retire, but when things
- 12:31like rayon happen that make the tiny
- 12:35things that are so irritating, the sand
- 12:38in my shoe go away, it makes me want to
- 12:42continue working, right? It's like if
- 12:44you have a long hike, I'll do the hike,
- 12:46but if you told me I have to do the hike
- 12:48with sand in my shoe, I'd be like, "No,
- 12:50thank you." Right? And rayon is the kind
- 12:52of thing that not only is a better shoe,
- 12:55it gets rid of the sand as well. It just
- 12:58it transforms the experience for
- 13:00everyone in our office. And yeah, it
- 13:04really does make me think, huh, I can
- 13:07focus now on being more of a designer
- 13:09and less on pretending that I work in
- 13:11it. No interest.
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