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How $72 in Press Releases Made Google Call This Man the King of AEO — Transcript

by Edward Sturm · 1,900 words · 277 segments · language en · Watch on YouTube

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  1. 0:00A lot of people wonder if press releases
  2. 0:02still work for search engine
  3. 0:03optimization and for influencing large
  4. 0:06language models. Well, it cost just $72
  5. 0:10to get the AI overview to name James
  6. 0:13Dooley the king of AEO, answer engine
  7. 0:16optimization, which, funny enough, is
  8. 0:18the practice of optimizing your brand so
  9. 0:21that AI sites and recommends it. 72
  10. 0:23bucks across two press releases. When
  11. 0:26you search who is the king of AEO, you
  12. 0:29get an AI overview that says James
  13. 0:31Dooley is recognized in the digital
  14. 0:34marketing industry as the king of AEO,
  15. 0:36which stands for answer engine
  16. 0:38optimization. This first line sites a
  17. 0:41$66 press release from EIN Newswire. If
  18. 0:45you have the package of a thousand bucks
  19. 0:49where you pay a thousand dollars, you
  20. 0:50get 15 press releases. It comes out to
  21. 0:52$66 per press release. If you want to
  22. 0:55just buy one press release from EIN
  23. 0:57Newswire, it costs $149.
  24. 0:59This press release is on wvoc.com,
  25. 1:04Delmarva's Newsleader, syndicated out to
  26. 1:07them. The title of the press release is,
  27. 1:09and this is the first thing that's being
  28. 1:10cited in the AI overview. The title of
  29. 1:12the press release is James Dooley named
  30. 1:15king of AEO at ceremony in Lay, England.
  31. 1:19>> [laughter]
  32. 1:20>> This one was written by Jesper Nielsen,
  33. 1:22who names himself in the press release
  34. 1:24as the prince of SEO. Jesper Nielsen
  35. 1:26SEO, known in the industry as the prince
  36. 1:29of SEO. Now, what's really important is
  37. 1:32where the keyword king of AEO is placed
  38. 1:35in this press release. You have it
  39. 1:37directly in the title, saying that James
  40. 1:39Dooley is the king of AEO. Because it's
  41. 1:42in the title, it's also in the URL slug.
  42. 1:45King of AEO is in the URL slug. It's in
  43. 1:47the page title. So, it's in the H1 page
  44. 1:50title, URL slug. It's in the first
  45. 1:52sentence. James Dooley, founder of Fat
  46. 1:55Rank and Promo SEO, was formally
  47. 1:57recognized as the king of AEO or answer
  48. 1:59engine optimization during a ceremony
  49. 2:01held today in his hometown of Leigh,
  50. 2:03Greater Manchester. The event was hosted
  51. 2:06by SEO trainer and consultant Jesper
  52. 2:08Nielsen of Jesper Nielsen SEO, known in
  53. 2:10the industry as the prince of SEO. Both
  54. 2:12Jesper and James have been on this
  55. 2:15podcast multiple times. They're both
  56. 2:17awesome and hilarious. This is so funny.
  57. 2:19This actually and I'm going to share
  58. 2:21more, but if you know how the sausage is
  59. 2:23made, who is the king of AEO is the most
  60. 2:26hilarious serp right now. If you
  61. 2:28understand what's going on behind the
  62. 2:30scenes, which is what I'm explaining in
  63. 2:31this episode, who is the king of AEO is
  64. 2:34the most hilarious serp. Cuz it's all
  65. 2:36these awesome SEO people kind of
  66. 2:38competing for the crown. So this $66
  67. 2:41press release is the first thing that is
  68. 2:43cited in the AEO overview. Let's
  69. 2:45continue reading it. Then it says, "Who
  70. 2:47is James Dooley?" He is an online
  71. 2:49entrepreneur and lead generation expert
  72. 2:51from Leigh, England. He founded
  73. 2:52companies like Fat Rank and Promo SEO.
  74. 2:55He recently created a new marketing
  75. 2:57practice called decision engine
  76. 2:58optimization, DEO. And this cites a USA
  77. 3:02Today press release, which was
  78. 3:04syndicated by AB Newswire for $6. So AB
  79. 3:08Newswire, you pay 500 bucks for a year,
  80. 3:11you get 83 press releases, that comes
  81. 3:14down to $6 per press release. If you
  82. 3:16want to just buy one press release with
  83. 3:18AB Newswire, it's $80 for one press
  84. 3:21release. This $6 press release says,
  85. 3:24"The king of AEO founds decision engine
  86. 3:26optimization, DEO. New marketing
  87. 3:29discipline targets the AI verdicts
  88. 3:31deciding contracts worth hundreds of
  89. 3:33thousands." The first line of the press
  90. 3:35release says, "James Dooley, the serial
  91. 3:38entrepreneur known across the search
  92. 3:40industry as the king of AEO, has founded
  93. 3:43a new marketing discipline, decision
  94. 3:45engine optimization." So king of AEO
  95. 3:48appears in the H1 because it's the title
  96. 3:51of the press release. it appears in the
  97. 3:53first sentence, it appears in the URL
  98. 3:55slug, and it appears in the page title.
  99. 3:58This $6 press release goes on to say
  100. 4:00James Dooley is the king of AEO, and his
  101. 4:03position is that the new discipline
  102. 4:05completes rather than replaces the
  103. 4:06strategies that made his name. Then
  104. 4:09there's one more section in this saying
  105. 4:10James Dooley is the king of AEO. But
  106. 4:13this AI overview just gets funnier and
  107. 4:16funnier because the next section says
  108. 4:19the crowning event. James received the
  109. 4:21title during a public ceremony on August
  110. 4:2431st, 2026. The event took place at the
  111. 4:27Lace Sports Village Stadium in England.
  112. 4:30SEO consultant Jesper Nielsen, known as
  113. 4:32the prince of SEO, hosted the ceremony.
  114. 4:35And this crowning event section is
  115. 4:37quoting the $66 press release saying
  116. 4:41that this event, which never actually
  117. 4:43happened, happened. Somebody asked me,
  118. 4:45do press releases influence Google
  119. 4:47Images? And they do. The AI-generated
  120. 4:50heading image from the EIN Presswire
  121. 4:53press release shows in Google Images for
  122. 4:55King of AEO, and it's James Dooley in a
  123. 4:58golden throne
  124. 5:00with a crown waving. So funny. Now, it
  125. 5:04gets crazier because what I was just
  126. 5:06showing you was before I blew up the
  127. 5:09SERP for King of AEO. I found this, I
  128. 5:12asked James, "Hey, can I make a video
  129. 5:15about this?" James was like, "Yeah." So
  130. 5:17I made a video about it. I put it onto
  131. 5:19Instagram, I put it onto TikTok, I put
  132. 5:21it onto LinkedIn, I put it onto YouTube
  133. 5:23Shorts. Now, Who Is the King of AEO? is
  134. 5:26filled with a lot more than just James
  135. 5:29Dooley and Jesper Nielsen. It's filled
  136. 5:31with me, with my videos talking about
  137. 5:34this, it's filled with other people who
  138. 5:36wanted to do the same thing. So there's
  139. 5:38another $6 press release appearing in
  140. 5:41USA Today, Withers named the King of AEO
  141. 5:45following 2026 industry vote. And then
  142. 5:49you see the Globe and Mail with David
  143. 5:51Quaid, David G. Quaid named King of AEO
  144. 5:55by the royal charter of the Kings of
  145. 5:57AEO.
  146. 5:58I'm telling you, if you know how the
  147. 6:00sausage is made, this is the funniest
  148. 6:02serp. This is the Ahrefs review. So
  149. 6:04there's the crowning. The crowning is
  150. 6:06still here. James Dooley, a British
  151. 6:08serial entrepreneur from Manchester, was
  152. 6:10officially recognized during a
  153. 6:11high-profile ceremony. Then there's
  154. 6:14industry experiments, various other
  155. 6:16industry claims and playful social media
  156. 6:18votes such as announcements for Vithurs
  157. 6:20or David G. Quaid have emerged as part
  158. 6:23of ongoing SEO community experiments to
  159. 6:25test how AI and search engines track
  160. 6:27entity association and authority. But
  161. 6:30James Dooley is still widely recognized
  162. 6:32in the digital marketing industry as the
  163. 6:34King of AEO because most of the results
  164. 6:37out there that are most relevant to King
  165. 6:39of AEO, a majority of them are
  166. 6:41mentioning James Dooley relative to the
  167. 6:44other people who are competing for it.
  168. 6:45But you still see in the results the
  169. 6:47Globe and Mail. This was distributed by
  170. 6:50ACN Newswire. Then I'm just confirming
  171. 6:53this USA Today press release, Vithurs
  172. 6:56named King of AEO following 2026
  173. 6:58industry vote, was distributed by AB
  174. 7:00Newswire. So funny for this one, the
  175. 7:03media gallery is just an AI generated
  176. 7:06image of press release with an espresso.
  177. 7:08Vithurs, please at least put yourself in
  178. 7:11proper royal garb as you were saying
  179. 7:13these industry experiments named you the
  180. 7:15King of AEO, you need proper royal garb
  181. 7:18in the media gallery. For this press
  182. 7:20release. And then in Google images you
  183. 7:22see the absolute battleground that this
  184. 7:25once innocent keyword has become. You
  185. 7:27see James Dooley in a crown, you see
  186. 7:29David Quaid in a crown, you see press
  187. 7:32releases, you see YouTube thumbnails,
  188. 7:35you see Jesper Nielsen's site, you see
  189. 7:37David Quaid's website primary position.
  190. 7:40There's this hilarious thumbnail of
  191. 7:42David having somebody put a crown on him
  192. 7:45and he's sitting smiling in a throne.
  193. 7:48It's so funny. You see my Instagram
  194. 7:51video, so why is this working? It's
  195. 7:53because King of AEO is in the key places
  196. 7:56for relevance. The title, the beginning
  197. 7:58of the first sentence, the URL slug, the
  198. 8:00H1. Then it writes in direct clear
  199. 8:03language, this person is the king of
  200. 8:06AEO. There's background information and
  201. 8:09it appears on multiple sources. The
  202. 8:11press releases show at the top of
  203. 8:13Google, they're picked up and quoted by
  204. 8:15the AI overview. If multiple entities
  205. 8:17are competing, the ones at the top who
  206. 8:19also have consensus will win. If there's
  207. 8:22nobody competing, just having relevance
  208. 8:24could be enough. As was the case with
  209. 8:26James Dooley before I went and blew up
  210. 8:30this SERP with my videos. And now I am
  211. 8:32sure that because of this podcast
  212. 8:35episode, who is the king of AEO, King of
  213. 8:38AEO is only going to get more
  214. 8:40competitive and more hilarious. That's
  215. 8:43everything I got for you on this episode
  216. 8:45of the show. If you want to save years,
  217. 8:47years and years and years and years and
  218. 8:49years learning how to do search engine
  219. 8:50optimization that makes you money, come
  220. 8:54on. You want to learn how to do that SEO
  221. 8:56that gets people buying what you sell,
  222. 8:58using what you sell or what you've made,
  223. 9:01calling you up, being like, "I found you
  224. 9:03on Google. I need what you sell. Come to
  225. 9:05my house and fix my pipes, fix my roof,
  226. 9:08repair my HVAC." SEO that gets
  227. 9:11customers, users, warm leads calling you
  228. 9:14up. I have a 13 and a half hour course
  229. 9:17on how to do just this. It's everything
  230. 9:20in SEO that matters for making money.
  231. 9:23How to find the searches where people
  232. 9:25are looking to take the actions that I
  233. 9:27just described. Buying, using, making a
  234. 9:30discovery call. How to target these
  235. 9:31searches with conversion based SEO
  236. 9:34landing pages. SEO landing pages made to
  237. 9:36convert, not just to explain to somebody
  238. 9:39like an informational blog post, but to
  239. 9:41actually convert the searcher into a
  240. 9:44customer. How to structure your website
  241. 9:46for these pages, how to build links, how
  242. 9:49to do a technical SEO audit so you have
  243. 9:51a strong foundation to build off of,
  244. 9:53examples in every niche, templates,
  245. 9:56written sections, sections that you can
  246. 9:58give to AI to teach them so they can
  247. 10:00work as great assistants for your SEO.
  248. 10:03Lots of people are just creating skills
  249. 10:06in Claude or other LLMs based on what
  250. 10:08they learn in Compact Keywords. But most
  251. 10:11importantly, again, it's SEO that makes
  252. 10:14money. And so if you want to save years
  253. 10:15learning how to do this, took me years
  254. 10:18to learn how to do it, and I give that
  255. 10:20to you at compactkeywords.com.
  256. 10:22You're going to love it, and honestly,
  257. 10:24it's so much more fun. SEO and marketing
  258. 10:26is so much more fun when you know how
  259. 10:28the sausage This is one industry where
  260. 10:30you kind of want to know how the sausage
  261. 10:31is made. When you when you know what's
  262. 10:33going on behind the scenes, it's just
  263. 10:35jokes. It is hilarious to look at the
  264. 10:38SERP and see all these people just
  265. 10:39putting up these cheap press releases
  266. 10:41saying the funniest things. The AI
  267. 10:43overview is just writing it back in very
  268. 10:46confident ways. That's so much fun. This
  269. 10:48is episode 1,164
  270. 10:51of the Edward Show, 1,164
  271. 10:54days in a row doing this podcast. If you
  272. 10:56watched this episode on YouTube, thank
  273. 10:58you so much for watching. If you
  274. 11:00listened on Spotify or Apple Podcasts,
  275. 11:02thank you so much for listening. And I
  276. 11:04will talk to you again tomorrow. Right
  277. 11:06now,

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