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0:04Hello. Hello. So today we are here with
0:07Kai, Maria and Christopher from Hong and
0:11this is Fousing.
0:22First things first uh how did you end up
0:26in Doling God?
0:29That is such a good question. I think
0:32that it started by some really clever PR
0:36people at Dolingo deciding to that the
0:38owl somehow died and they wanted to do a
0:41a ritual to resurrect it. And I think
0:44actually that we managed somehow to be
0:47what people are thinking about when they
0:49think
0:50ritual. Somehow our name must have come
0:53up when they Googled ritual music or
0:56something. But it's uh it was uh Yeah.
1:00Did Did you
1:01guys The car looks like a question. I
1:04was I was shown this by Martin
1:07yesterday. Oh my gosh. Okay. So, I saw
1:10it a few weeks ago and uh the day after
1:14I actually also not our music, but I
1:16heard people talking about it in the UK
1:19radio in the gas station. So, it it went
1:22quite a while. It has 4 million places.
1:24You know,
1:25Dualingo. Oh, they are having a they're
1:28starting a cult to resurrect the
1:30Dualingo owl and Hilong's music is
1:33underneath the the promotion campaign.
1:36That's an app to to to learn how to
1:38speak, right? Yes. Okay. So, why would
1:40why don't they put old Norse on it then?
1:42Yeah. Yeah. Or protogerermanic. Proger
1:44Germanic. Yeah. True. I think I think I
1:46think it's about time they get their act
1:48together. If you see this Dualingo
1:51protogermanic or old Norse should be
1:53part of your language database. Thank
1:54you. or ancient north ancient north
1:56coils right I'd like to ask you se
2:00question now um so you are starting a
2:03hiatus in August and u what prompted the
2:07hatus how long it would last because I
2:10would say for myself how long was around
2:13for a long time and it was such a big
2:15support for me personally and I guess
2:17for many people and now I felt a little
2:20bit sadness that it is going away what
2:24if it doesn't come
2:27back. So, um can you tell a little bit
2:30why you going there and how if whatever
2:33you can share about how long it will
2:35take?
2:37I think you said it very well at one
2:39point Kai that uh it takes
2:42um you need you need to withdraw to
2:46restore the the energy. Uh sometimes you
2:51you had you had something wise. Do you
2:52remember?
2:55Yeah. Retreat,
2:58reconnect,
3:00restore, and then return stronger.
3:04[Music]
3:05Yeah. I mean, it's not that uncommon.
3:07People need holiday, you know. It's a
3:10You're not going to have a holiday
3:12thing, you know. Ah, maybe. What does
3:15that mean? What is that? I don't know.
3:17No, but uh but uh but I heard it's nice.
3:22Okay. Yeah, we should try it. Yeah, we
3:23should try it. Maybe we should try it.
3:25Like like like we could maybe send like
3:26a picture from a beach or something
3:29like storing our energy with some pina
3:32coluladas and you know I don't know. I
3:35also I don't think it's a secret that we
3:37uh Haidong is uh constantly evolving
3:40very organically and um we we are
3:44continuously working on on new material
3:47and uh it's also good to to take a break
3:51to
3:52uh get more real uh with these plans.
3:56But we are taking a full year stop full
4:00stop. It's been extremely hectic since
4:03we came back after the pandemic. I think
4:06we've counted like 320 travel days per
4:10year. Um it's or something. 500 travel
4:14days a year. Yes. At least that's how it
4:16feels like. And uh yeah, Chris is uh
4:19building new uh things in his studio and
4:23uh we all establishing uh new homes. We
4:26all been moving around. So, it's
4:27something about taking a stop,
4:30establishing our base, re-establishing
4:33um ourselves, uh and uh yeah, getting a
4:37moment to breathe, to come back
4:39stronger. Hopefully, the world is still
4:41here when we're coming back because we
4:43are coming back. It is it is it is the
4:47I play on the moon. You'll play on the
4:49moon. Yeah. If Yeah. If that's the only
4:51option. I have a question for each of
4:54you. So since we are approaching that
4:58hayatus um maybe I wanted to do it a
5:02little bit of historical thing in this
5:04interview like can you tell what are the
5:08most things that stand out for you
5:09during the whole journey? An absolute
5:13golden moment for me was our performance
5:16at Minu
5:18Daragis because uh the whole setup was
5:22just amazing. There was the stage and
5:26instead of having like the barriers and
5:29like security there was just a river and
5:32then on the other side there were there
5:34was the audience and during our
5:38ceremony
5:41they they had built this gigantic wheel
5:45of like I don't have a clue 6 m
5:47diameters like a sun wheel and it was
5:50made from wood and straw and hay and all
5:53of that. And while we played like a lot
5:57of men gathered and they all had no
6:00shirt and they had torches and then they
6:03ran towards the wheel and set it in
6:05motion and put a torch in there and
6:09while we were performing that wheel
6:11started burning and spinning faster and
6:15faster and faster and like by the end it
6:18was just in
6:20full Oh, wow. Wow. And that had a I mean
6:24like the whole place was like an ancient
6:26burial ground of of some sort. And uh
6:29yeah, the whole setup and
6:31that wheel of fire that just ignited and
6:36like yeah spread his energy. That that
6:38is something I will never in my whole
6:40life forget. And that that was like for
6:42my pagan heart like a really
6:45really golden moment full of light
6:48literally. Yeah. You know, there's a
6:51picture where you see you standing and
6:53the whole wheel goes around your head.
6:56It's beautiful. Really beautiful. Yeah.
6:59Should I go?
7:01Um, I
7:03think there are thousands of highlights
7:07for this project, but I
7:09think I think meeting our friends from
7:14First Nations in in in the US and and in
7:19in Australia and New Zealand. I I
7:22wouldn't like or or Thailand. I think
7:25that that for me has
7:27been the highlight for me because it's
7:31it's a handshake. It's a handshake when
7:33you when you come with something that
7:35you have found within yourself and then
7:38you meet other people and and they they
7:41they have something from them and you
7:44can make an handshake and figure out how
7:46identical we actually are. I think that
7:48that is
7:49uh we have got a lot of good friends
7:51there and and that is something that
7:54will stay.
7:57Yeah, I mean um yeah, it's yeah, it's
8:01like you say a lot of uh memorable
8:03moments but um from from the beginning
8:06it was absolutely the first uh ritual we
8:09did on Castle Fest. I think going on
8:11stage not exactly knowing how it would
8:15be perceived. It was something we had
8:18carried very close to our heart for a
8:20long time and then bringing it into the
8:22world and then just feeling I was
8:25listening to Lea when we were practicing
8:26earlier and you can just feel the
8:28audience is
8:30like this extreme energy like everyone
8:34just collectively breathing and just
8:36screaming when Kai is screaming and it's
8:39like this whole energy exchange was
8:43something I've never ever experienced
8:45before and I get goosebumps every time I
8:47listen to it.
8:49Um, and then yeah, if we uh fast forward
8:53to only last summer, I think it was
8:55actually in Finland on the festival we
8:58did uh last summer was also extremely
9:02memorable. It was in daylight. Something
9:04that we uh said we would never do
9:07because the spirits come out after
9:09sundown and uh it has been it is a very
9:12important factor for us. But something
9:14about this very beautiful summer day
9:16where we were able to swim in the lake
9:19right behind the stage and this fresh
9:21cool fresh water just being completely
9:24refreshed and then going into makeup and
9:27um Katy, one of our warriors picked a
9:29beautiful flower uh crown for me that I
9:33was wearing uh on stage and it was just
9:35I just have this like this sweet taste
9:38of summer. You know how that is that
9:39that's very special feeling. So yeah,
9:42that was uh magical and
9:46yeah. Yeah, I think that's it.
9:52Can you uh tell me um about your
9:56connection with indigenous communities?
9:57What it means to you? Why it's
9:59important?
10:05For me it's uh is very important because
10:08uh as I as I mentioned before uh in the
10:12solo interview I'm working with core
10:14shamanism a lot and uh of course that
10:17involves the the studying of uh a lot of
10:22indigenous cultures including also the
10:26the Finnish the submi people
10:29And
10:31uh we as western or northern Europeans,
10:37the fire of our natural spirituality was
10:41relentlessly put out by Christianity in
10:45the early medieval time for Germany.
10:47It's it started already in the migration
10:49period. And uh we're not supposed to
10:53steal the wood from our brothers and
10:56sisters in Australia, in Finland,
10:59Sweden, wherever,
11:02America,
11:03Greenland. But we need to get our fire
11:07back. And that is how I see it. So I am
11:13just like Christopher me me me me me me
11:14me me me me me me me me me me me me me
11:14me mentioned before I am also overly
11:16happy whenever someone from this first
11:21nations from the indigenous cultures say
11:24yes we're coming to you we're coming to
11:27your stage and we're doing the blessing
11:29for you although it is very very
11:32difficult to actually get local locals
11:36so for example when we are performing in
11:39America in Colorado we have people
11:41coming that are rooted in California,
11:45even down to Mexican roots up to Canada,
11:48and they come and do the blessing for us
11:52also in Thailand where we performed of
11:54course in
11:56uh in Bangkok. But the people who did
11:58the traditional dance there, they did
12:00not perform the the actual dance that
12:03traditionally was performed in Bangkok,
12:04they were from a from a region further
12:06away. But nevertheless they represent
12:10people from the old culture of the
12:15region and uh that is like very much for
12:19us also the case like I was born in
12:21Midwest Germany Maria was born I don't
12:24know how many thousand kilometers away
12:26from me but still we are performing
12:29something European Scandinavian you know
12:32which dates of course a long a long
12:34while back and uh Uh there's this
12:38beautiful symbol like when we we find
12:42that especially in Sweden as a rock
12:44carving this plus with a circle around
12:48from the bronze age but we also find
12:50that that sun wheel as we call it. We
12:54find that in northern America there they
12:56call it the earth wheel and there that
13:00is also in color. It has it has four
13:02colors. It has the black color, the red
13:04color, the yellow color, and the white
13:06color. And one of the medicine people
13:10from the from the indigenous people
13:12there explained to me at one point what
13:15he sees in that. And he says it is the
13:17white people, the black people, the red
13:20people, and the yellow people all
13:22forming the wheel of the earth. And we
13:25all need to work together in order to
13:28make it go round. Literally
13:31I watched some interviews uh to get
13:34prepared to this one and um in the
13:36especially in the earlier interviews you
13:38tell that okay we amplify natural
13:41sounds. Is it still the same today or
13:45you added something more to the sound?
13:49No the concept of the band is the same.
13:52It's a non-political statement. It's a
13:55dive back in history. It's um it's we're
14:00not trying to dictate how it was. Um
14:03we're not we're not taking a dusty book
14:07down the shelf and and and trying to
14:09recreate something 100%. We are trying
14:12to give you a glimpse of how it might
14:14feel
14:15uh being in this and and uh the purpose
14:19is to heal. You know, it's it's an
14:22internal travel and an an external
14:24travel at the same time. And and in that
14:26we are using all sorts of sounds mostly
14:30from the north uh amplifying them
14:33u and and yeah trying to alter your
14:37state of mind that has not changed at
14:39all. How sanctity of the ritual and uh
14:44being on the entertainment events when
14:46people basically drunk beer and like
14:49having fun and kind of disconnect from
14:51reality in all possible ways. how it all
14:54works together. Is it a contradiction or
14:56not?
14:58It's a good question, but uh do did you
15:02have something? Well, for me it's uh
15:05sometimes very challenging uh to be
15:08honest like I I look in my life at a
15:11full decade of like absolutely no
15:13alcohol and uh I would consider that for
15:15me very very healing and uh I also
15:19suggest that out there for for the world
15:22to try that uh at one point but then
15:26again as Christopher said before or
15:28mentioned or hinted to it we're not here
15:31to judge. So, if you want to come to our
15:35performances and drink beer, why not? I
15:37mean, like, we even made a traditional
15:40beer at some point, right? But when it
15:44comes
15:46to that kind of stuff, drugs, like for
15:49me, beer, nicotine, coffee, that's all
15:53drugs,
15:55right? Stuff that alters your state of
15:58mind. Can be a drug, too. Can be a drug,
16:01too. May it be sex, may it be food,
16:03shopping,
16:04whatever. It's always it's always
16:07playing with fire, right? The moment you
16:08lose
16:10balance, literally or just in your life,
16:13you enhance your problems instead of
16:15solving them, right? So it's
16:18always take care, keep balance and uh we
16:22will not judge you know whatever
16:24whatever you eat, whatever you drink
16:27before you come to our performance is
16:29like everyone out there is responsible
16:31for him or herself and uh how we look at
16:34it
16:36inside the the performance crew that's
16:38also very very individual. There's
16:40people who never drink and then there's
16:42people who drink on a regular basis.
16:45There's people who smoke. There's people
16:46who never smoke. There's people who eat
16:48pork. There's people who never would eat
16:51any animal. Right. And there's also
16:53internally no judgment.
16:57I think also Yeah. that of course we
17:00appreciate uh when people are respectful
17:02to their surroundings and uh come in
17:05with a a sense of uh taking care of each
17:08other. And if you see someone in the
17:10audience who who needs a hand, go give
17:13it. And yeah. Yeah. just be be gentle
17:16with your environment and yeah besides
17:18that I I completely agree. Did you just
17:21suggest that people should
17:26give I mean I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I
17:30haven't already several times. I have
17:33actually seen it on front row for sure.
17:37For sure. I love that. Many times I love
17:39that. Nothing. Yeah. Keep on giving a
17:42hand or two then also it will definitely
17:45give right yes definitely put you in the
17:48right state of mind anything you like
17:50ass head hand I don't care
17:53let's move on
17:55what amazes me about how long so I've
17:58been to Nordic fall concerts before and
18:00they work very well in closer spaces
18:02like Gilder Holland in
18:05Mardut and maybe it's a bit nerdy
18:07question maybe very technical what do
18:10you think
18:11what special sound makes it possible to
18:15entrance the audience in arenas like
18:19yeah that's a good question um it's a
18:22very very good question and it's
18:24something that you will see high move
18:27way more into in the future um um and um
18:32and here I'm actually talking about
18:35something as technical as immersion
18:37right because what is it right what is
18:39it that makes you immersed in in in a
18:42specific setting when you when you are
18:46at a concert, right? And and or a ritual
18:49or both as we are. Uh and and it's not
18:53only the sounds, you know, there is of
18:55course elements in the sound that will
18:57attempt to to do something that we
18:59believe will alter your state of mind,
19:01but there's also another layer in what
19:03we're doing that is of course on Kai's
19:06table in the spiritual realm.
19:08[Music]
19:10Um in the end we are all people right we
19:14are in
19:15a setting normally I dare to say that
19:19it's very different from a setting when
19:22you come to a high ritual
19:26uh and we bring everything with us to
19:29make it as much as possible how we want
19:32it. So here in Finland for instance, we
19:35are transforming a ice hockey skating
19:38hole into a ritual round, right? Uh I
19:42think a
19:43normal day in that ice hockey hole is
19:47way different than when we are there,
19:49right? So we bring lights and sounds and
19:52our own speakers, our own states, our
19:55own carpets, our own everything, right?
19:58We don't borrow anything here really
20:00except from the trees. the trees we we
20:02we we bring with us. Yes. So, what we
20:05try to do is of course turn off the
20:08light, right? So, you don't see your ice
20:11skating hole, right? Um but there's more
20:14needed than that, you know, and and and
20:17half of that travel, I believe, at least
20:20half of that travel is happening inside
20:22of people themselves. Having a a a thing
20:26put up like this cannot work if there's
20:29only a sender and no receiver because
20:31that receiver has to with in the person
20:34taking it whatever that is the the the
20:37auditory the visual the the inner stuff
20:40the spiritual whatever something that
20:42happens inside the person themsself that
20:44they need to convert into something that
20:46is meaningful right and it demands
20:49something of people to be open right of
20:52course it looks great inside a gilhole
20:54but I can tell you at this size we have
20:56now I don't think we would even be able
20:58to fit the drummers in there right you
21:01know uh you can also say oh it's always
21:03best outside in a forest I don't agree
21:06necessarily we're playing very loud
21:07sounds right I don't want to give a
21:09heart attack to all the sleeping birds
21:10either right and stuff like that there's
21:12lots of things we need to consider when
21:14how we can make a thing as respectful as
21:17possible right and a lot of it comes
21:19from the inside right and that goes for
21:21the people attending also Right. Uh so I
21:25think we can close the eyes almost
21:26everywhere we are on the planet and if
21:29we close our eyes and and and really
21:31look inwards we will see the things that
21:34are important no matter how shitty it
21:36looks around us right uh so uh and of
21:40course we we do take a lot of care on a
21:43technical scale to to make it sound nice
21:45also. Yeah, I think that's also what uh
21:48is a bit curious uh to to hear more
21:51about like is there some secrets we can
21:53share? No, but right now how I know that
21:56we have uh two extra people with us to
21:59help tune the audio system to fit the
22:03surroundings. Right. So us bringing
22:05bringing we don't do an actual immersive
22:08setup on this because it's way too heavy
22:11to carry but but actually the sound you
22:14have been hearing on our last solo shows
22:16has been our own stuff we have brought
22:18already to make it sound as great as
22:19possible. So we have the best techniques
22:22there from what what money can buy but
22:24they're there to be invisible so that it
22:26just sounds great no matter what. And
22:28you if you start thinking about oh
22:30that's a speaker then you you have kind
22:32of broken the the the the immersion
22:35right but what we have done this time is
22:37also try to save ourselves a little bit
22:39because we have a lot of bass in our
22:41sounds and it can be quite horrible to
22:43to feel on stage sometime because it's
22:46kind of feel like you are having two
22:47hours worth of earthquake while while uh
22:50performing. So, we are now trying to
22:53hang half of it up in the roof so we
22:55don't die on stage, which is nice, you
22:57know, stuff like that. So, there's a lot
22:59of stuff going on. There's a lot of good
23:01people working for us uh that that does
23:04a fantastic job in in in in creating the
23:08both the visual and the audio visual
23:10space.
23:12For me, one of those kind of seminal
23:15moments in
23:17Hilong body fork is when you released
23:20Anuana. It's one of my favorite songs.
23:23Uh so I use this opportunity to ask how
23:26the song was created and how the music
23:29video came uh alive.
23:32Yeah, I'd like to talk a little bit
23:34about that because uh Yeah. Well, um the
23:38song was created. Uh maybe you can take
23:39that part and I can take the um video
23:42part. You take the video part. Yes. But
23:44the song it's Yeah. to start with the
23:47with the video part. It's uh was the
23:49first time that we tried to collaborate
23:51with um uh producers which was not
23:54ourselves. We've been making everything
23:55ourselves especially because Chris is
23:58particularly good at it. Chris is only
24:00also one person. So we realized that
24:03it's it's good to to try to get some
24:05help. And um uh the choice fell on a
24:09movie company from Tron uh called Helmet
24:13um because uh one of our friends had
24:15worked with them before and she
24:16recommended to have a chat and I come
24:19into Lena the director's uh office with
24:22uh we arranged a coffee meeting and I
24:24put on the song and I instantly I see
24:27her close her eyes and go kind
24:30of you know this when she she was just
24:33listening so intently and then She she
24:35actually also felt a little tear like
24:37she she got instantly very moved by the
24:40piece and then I knew like okay yes I
24:42think we have our people I think uh this
24:44is going to work and what she did was
24:46basically to take a few um uh a few
24:50words from us meaning um there's one we
24:54don't know the lyrics we don't know the
24:56meaning of the lyrics it's all ancient
24:58uh and lost to us there's a few words we
25:00know and one of them is lamb warrior
25:02which means protector of the hand. And
25:05she used that word to imagine a maybe
25:10parallel universe where children can be
25:12born with magical powers to resurrect
25:15animals and connect with um with the
25:18land.
25:20Um and um yeah, so she
25:23uh she basically uh created a a perfect
25:29example on how you can take Hilong's
25:32universe and then uh elaborate on it.
25:36What can happen in a Hilong world? What
25:40will the tribe do to gather strength? uh
25:44they will dance around the fire in the
25:46lunar eclipse and uh you know fight for
25:50for this uh the girl who who has has
25:53these powers. So it was it was a very
25:55beautiful interpretation and uh a very
25:58very uh wonderful to see that sometimes
26:01it it actually works to collaborate with
26:04people from the outside because it's uh
26:07it's it was a bit of nerve-racking for
26:09us to to to let that part go. But we
26:13were of course side by side with them
26:16for the entirety of the process. But
26:18yeah this the lyrics come from ancient
26:20Roman brackets, right? Uh ancient
26:22Germanic bactiates. through German which
26:24are inspired by Roman coins. Yes. Um,
26:28Anuana was the perfect song to delegate
26:31the video, to outsource the video
26:33because uh it has this openness that we
26:36have we have no idea what it means which
26:39is like different like our first video
26:41for example is uh is very different
26:44because there we know exactly what the
26:45rune spell means and the actual rune
26:47spell is also appearing in the video and
26:50it's also uh the the Rupo video it's
26:54very very close to the lyrics Even even
26:56the movements in the Noobo video are
26:59like like one to one the uh the lyrics
27:03but uh
27:06Anoana
27:07is very very open you know there's so
27:10much room for for interpretation that
27:12there was apparently enough room for an
27:15external company to make something
27:16absolutely amazing right
27:22I think you guys handle popularity very
27:25well Because when I talked to people who
27:28were at the start of the project like
27:30Toni Sharian, she said like you called
27:33her to do some little cool thing on the
27:36side, nothing big. And now uh Hilong is
27:40super popular and I think everyone in
27:44Hilong handles the popularity very well.
27:48So, but how do you perceive like as a
27:50popular people who like have so much
27:52attention, how do you perceive that
27:54popularity and how do you manage to stay
27:57sane
27:59by by closing the doors to the studio
28:02when I'm working? Uh, I think
28:05um
28:08and I think I think it's wonderful.
28:10Hilong gets gets the attention it needs.
28:13You know, we we can probably say that
28:16when, you know, Hilong sort of took up
28:18with with the Leaper thing, we didn't
28:20post money in the project to put it down
28:23people's throat, we didn't in any way um
28:27um make commercials and stuff like that.
28:29We just let it out and people can choose
28:32themsel if they want to play with us,
28:34right? Um, and and and I think that is
28:38its core is the Hilong is is to to
28:40people what people choose it to be,
28:43right? Um, of course it's it's crazy to
28:46see a lot of people uh tattooing Maria's
28:49face on their leg and uh and and all
28:52these things. Um and and and see how
28:54much it means to people, right? Uh but
28:56like in my daily life, for instance, I I
28:59don't really I don't see that much, you
29:01know? We we all live quite in in in
29:04desolate areas and and and spend a lot
29:06of time in nature and and and have a
29:10little group of people surrounding us,
29:12right? Uh of course when we travel and
29:14we meet people that of course it it's
29:16very much visible but I don't think in
29:18any way it's it's in any way harming or
29:21anything. people are very nice and
29:23careful and you know and I think it you
29:26know for people that that that really
29:28understand this kind of thing for most
29:30people they they also have another type
29:32of respect when meeting people right uh
29:35and and and as as I said before in a
29:38performance hung is as much for anyone
29:40in the audience as it is on the people
29:42on stage so no one is above anyone in in
29:45in that sense that is a good meaning for
29:48me also when we say we are all brothers
29:50Right. Um I believe we said once when we
29:53released um uh Fua that we are not equal
29:57but we are of equal value and and that I
29:59think sums it up for me basically how I
30:02navigate it. also think you you put the
30:05finger on the nail, the hammer on the
30:08nail. Finger finger finger under the
30:10nail. uh when you said that uh about the
30:13commercial because Hilong never um never
30:17made it and hopefully never will make it
30:20to the mainstream uh media in regards to
30:25getting that type of attention is is
30:29just annoying because that means people
30:32just want a piece of you because you
30:34have been um on television or are being
30:37played in the radio. They're not
30:39necessarily interested in what you do or
30:41why you do it, but it's the fame that
30:43becomes the important factor. And I've
30:45seen this only once and it was it
30:49shocked me. But we were sitting in a
30:51restaurant in Michigan eating a pizza, a
30:54group of us chatting, having a cozy
30:56time, and then there's a girl
30:58approaching our table that is like, "Uh,
31:01who are you?" And we're like, "Uh, oh,
31:03we're just some people having some
31:04pizza. Uh, have a nice evening." Trying
31:06to kind of roll it off. But it became
31:08very obvious that she was only in she
31:11she started asking like could I have a
31:13picture? Could I have an autograph? But
31:14she had no idea who we were. But she had
31:16a perception that we were someone. So
31:19she had to be interested. And you look
31:21like someone. We look like someone, you
31:22know. And that was like to me, wow, I'm
31:25so relieved that uh people like that
31:28actually don't, you know, know who I am
31:30because they will probably just leave me
31:32alone because our fans or listeners uh
31:36are extremely respectful as Chris also
31:38mentioned and and never feel um harassed
31:42or uh like very humble and often they
31:45come with a very personal story of
31:47something good that our music has done
31:49for them or their families or loved
31:51ones. And it's just uh it's just
31:54beautiful and makes me very happy to be
31:57um part of all of this. I mean there was
31:59one time where there was a fan breaching
32:01our security. I think it was in Canada
32:03and and I was standing building up on
32:05stage and the guy comes in front of me
32:07and he looks at me. I'm like so yeah who
32:10I start talking to me. I was like he was
32:11kind of a nice guy and then all of a all
32:13of a sudden he was like maybe I
32:15shouldn't be here. I like yeah maybe you
32:18shouldn't. Okay. Hi. You know and he
32:20left. Yeah, I mean he just got a little
32:24like he just walked in, you know. I
32:26mean, of course, the the security
32:28personal was a bit wild afterwards, but
32:30but but my point was that it was only
32:32big respect really, you know, and and
32:34and hopefully that that is of course not
32:37something we we we applaud that people
32:39should be when we are building up. But
32:42but my point is that respect is is
32:45important, right? In UK, how do you
32:47handle things? Oh, how do I stay sane?
32:50Yeah. Have I ever been sane? I would
32:53totally classify myself as insane and
32:55like I I'm still discovering how insane
32:57I am.
33:01So
33:03no whatever it that aspect of of my work
33:07is really not relevant for me. I somehow
33:10feel that you are immune completely. All
33:13of you are of course but you
33:15especially. So for the last question,
33:18what you can say to your listeners?
33:22I would love for all of you to enter um
33:26the room with the ritual with an open
33:29mind and uh the greatest love and
33:31respect for everyone around you and open
33:35all the doors inside you and just let
33:37everything in. And if anything feels too
33:40much or too harsh, try to ask yourself
33:43the question, why does it feel too much
33:46or too harsh? Is it something there that
33:49scares me? And why does it scare me? ask
33:52some questions because this is very much
33:55what we hope that you will get out of a
33:58live experience with us is
34:01to expand your expand your mind and uh
34:04leave the room a larger person than you
34:07were when you
34:12entered. Be gentle. Be gentle to
34:15yourself. Be gentle to the animals in
34:18your care. Be gentle to the children in
34:21your care. Be gentle to your
34:24neighbor, to your
34:28surrounding. I very much agree to this.
34:30I think um calm the down really. Um
34:35I believe that that is needed
34:38and enjoy yourself. It is nice to be
34:42alive.
34:44Thank you so much for your time. It was
34:47a great pleasure talking to you and good
34:49luck with your tour. Thank you so much
34:51for having us. Thank you.
34:59[Applause]

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