HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR Reveals How Find MEANING & Purpose In Your Life | Dr. Edith Eger — Transcript
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- 0:02foreign
- 0:03is clinical depression a thing or is
- 0:06there a way to get out of it without
- 0:07medication yeah well we pathologize
- 0:11we've intelligence too much
- 0:15I think it's
- 0:17it's very good to
- 0:21make the diagnosis
- 0:24that doesn't have to pathologize like
- 0:28I'm sad I'm scared you know to use the
- 0:32language that it doesn't have to go to
- 0:36diagnosis and medical medicine is
- 0:39important
- 0:41yeah no we have our blood
- 0:46and that needs to be
- 0:50hopefully valid tended to yeah we have
- 0:54our environment but the way you respond
- 0:58to the other two
- 1:00I have a choice
- 1:02to respond or react
- 1:06when you react you don't think
- 1:09how does someone learn how to pause when
- 1:12there's an event when there's a deeper
- 1:14trigger
- 1:15take a deep breath and if that doesn't
- 1:18work take another deep breath you keep
- 1:20breathing until you react because you
- 1:23cannot change what's outside of you
- 1:28the environment the event what occurs
- 1:31you really have very powerless
- 1:33[Music]
- 1:35but you have power the way you choose
- 1:38to take the negative and turn it into
- 1:41positive
- 1:43because suffering makes you stronger
- 1:45suffering
- 1:48is part of life
- 1:51is there a way to minimize suffering in
- 1:55our lives
- 1:56you learn from history so you won't
- 2:00repeat it
- 2:01yes
- 2:03that's why it's good to write the book
- 2:06the book
- 2:08people told me for years write a book
- 2:10write a book and I would say I have
- 2:13nothing to say I have nothing to say
- 2:16but then Philip zimbardo one morning
- 2:19calls from
- 2:20and says you know Edie
- 2:23the people who survived
- 2:27and are famous
- 2:29our old man
- 2:32we need their female voice
- 2:37and that's my book the choice right a
- 2:41female voice of Victor Frank wow it's
- 2:44beautiful you mentioned I want to ask
- 2:46you about the fear the fears again
- 2:48writing down a list of your fears and
- 2:50then knocking them down
- 2:52what happens
- 2:54internally when we start to knock these
- 2:57fears down and we over you replace it
- 2:59with something else
- 3:02see when when you're in a car
- 3:05and you have to switch gears
- 3:08you know it talks to you the car
- 3:12so what you need to do is switch gears
- 3:16and release the clutch
- 3:19what are you holding on to
- 3:22my definition of Love Is
- 3:25the ability to let go
- 3:32don't live in their past
- 3:35you cannot change the past
- 3:39it's one thing you cannot change
- 3:41is the past
- 3:43I don't live in the past
- 3:46I don't forget it or overcome it
- 3:52that's why I call it my cherished wound
- 3:55because part of me was left in Auschwitz
- 3:58but not the better part not the bigger
- 4:01part
- 4:01how do you reclaim that part from that
- 4:04you go back to that place and you can do
- 4:07it in your office with a guest Out Chair
- 4:11put them in that chair tie them up and
- 4:15beat them up sure yeah
- 4:20wow how could you do this to me I was
- 4:23only eight years old you know and you
- 4:26get it out
- 4:28scream it out and beat them up
- 4:31if we don't get that emotion out then
- 4:33we're the ones that suffer right yeah
- 4:35because forgiveness has nothing to do
- 4:38with me forgiving you for what you did
- 4:41to me I don't have any godly power at
- 4:44all
- 4:45but I do have a power
- 4:47to look at everything that happened
- 4:50into an opportunity
- 4:53for an opportunity
- 4:56and that was Auschwitz
- 4:58the biggest classroom the most important
- 5:02one I have gone to wow
- 5:05so do we need to forgive the person that
- 5:09created the pain do we need to forgive
- 5:12ourselves what is harder yeah I think we
- 5:15could eat it
- 5:16uh
- 5:20at time when I give yous myself
- 5:23permission is a very good word
- 5:28give myself permission
- 5:32to let go
- 5:34of the pain
- 5:38and replace it with self-love
- 5:41which is self-care
- 5:43which is not narcissistic
- 5:47love yourself is not narcissist yeah so
- 5:51give yourself give myself permission to
- 5:53let go of the pain from the past
- 5:54permission is a key word
- 5:58and then replace it with self-love you
- 6:01know if I could meet Dr mangala now I
- 6:04really wanted to meet him and I found
- 6:08out where he was but I never really
- 6:11ended up meeting him in person he went
- 6:15to South America most of the Nazis went
- 6:18through the
- 6:21the
- 6:23Roman Catholics
- 6:26somehow helped them to go through
- 6:30them to go to sat America yeah
- 6:34what would you have said to him
- 6:37if you could have met him what would you
- 6:38have said to him
- 6:40I would probably tell him
- 6:43I have no idea what I would have done if
- 6:46I would have been in your shoes
- 6:48you must have felt very powerful
- 6:52sending my mother to the gas chamber
- 6:56because he asked me
- 6:59is this your sister or is this your
- 7:01mother
- 7:02I still want to cry but now
- 7:06that stupidly I said it's my mother
- 7:09because I could not forgive myself
- 7:13that if I would have said my sister
- 7:16she wouldn't have gone to the gas
- 7:18company
- 7:21but then I had to
- 7:26recognize that
- 7:29it did
- 7:31what I could you know you did the best
- 7:34and I did the best I could yeah so
- 7:37forgiving yourself
- 7:39and not to judge yourself
- 7:41you've got to
- 7:43you got to really truly do the work yeah
- 7:48that's powerful
- 7:50I'm curious suffering
- 7:52is uh
- 7:54make you stronger how much don't ask for
- 7:58it I don't want suffering
- 8:01you don't want you don't need to answer
- 8:03no no no but it makes it happens
- 8:07and recognize that it's temporary yes
- 8:10yes and you can survive it so you become
- 8:13your own good parent yes are you a good
- 8:17parent to you uh-huh now I am yeah after
- 8:20a lot of the healing work yeah now I'm a
- 8:23very good parent to myself yeah I feel a
- 8:25lot of Peace inside but I didn't feel
- 8:27that for years yeah
- 8:29you say what you live
- 8:32yeah
- 8:34that's good yeah it's a constant Journey
- 8:37you know congratulations thank you thank
- 8:40you but a lot of your you know the first
- 8:42time I interviewed you I was really
- 8:44inspired by how you
- 8:46shared so much wisdom about how to not
- 8:48take things personally and how to
- 8:50reinterpret when someone sang something
- 8:52to you just saying no well I actually
- 8:54you're saying the opposite to yourself
- 8:55of like how you love yourself and how
- 8:57you're generous and kind so I really
- 8:59appreciate that you know just a very
- 9:02simple question whatever you're doing
- 9:05now you ask how is it working for you
- 9:08yeah is it empowering you or depleting
- 9:11you so you said
- 9:13anger is something that not the Primary
- 9:17Emotion it's not the primary so when
- 9:19someone feels anger what is it they
- 9:21really feel
- 9:23afraid of what
- 9:26um
- 9:27fear of being found out
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