Hoe een mislukt megatransport van 11.500 kilo coke leidde naar biker Geert F. — Transcript
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- 0:02For a long time, the police and justice
- 0:04system didn't have him in clear focus.
- 0:06Yes, he moves in the world of the
- 0:08Bandidos in Sittard. That is a
- 0:10motorcycle club with a reputation for
- 0:12violence and intimidation. But that
- 0:16this man would grow into an important
- 0:18player in an international cocaine
- 0:19investigation, the authorities didn't
- 0:21see that coming. But that changes when
- 0:25investigators in Belgium crack
- 0:27encrypted phones and the justice
- 0:29department begins to suspect he is a
- 0:31true narco.
- 0:32In various places in Limburg, Brabant,
- 0:34Belgium, and Germany, the police
- 0:36conducted raids on motorcycle gangs
- 0:38early in the morning.
- 0:40A normal person. We are also just
- 0:42people. We are not animals. We didn't
- 0:45do anything.
- 0:48He is a Belgian with a machine gun
- 0:50tattooed on his face. A man who,
- 0:52according to the justice department,
- 0:54manages to arrange a gigantic cocaine
- 0:57shipment of 11,500 kg to Europe and
- 0:59also sees how it subsequently goes
- 1:01completely wrong.
- 1:03The drugs have a street value of nearly
- 1:051 billion and were hidden in a
- 1:07container with scrap metal. This is the
- 1:11story of Geert F. Welcome to the
- 1:12underworld. My name is Bas van Mulken
- 1:36and sitting across from me is crime
- 1:38reporter Bas Dingemansen. Bas, we're
- 1:40talking about Geert F. We have already
- 1:42seen that name pass by in an earlier
- 1:43episode. It was about "Boekie," the
- 1:45accountant of the underworld. Where do
- 1:47we start the story about Geert F today?
- 1:49Uh, in September 2020 in Guyana, so on
- 1:52the other side of the world. Actually,
- 1:54South America, neighbor of Suriname.
- 1:59And uh, that day in September 2020,
- 2:01five containers are loaded onto a ship.
- 2:06If you're thinking, "How does Bas know
- 2:08all that?" I know that from Philip
- 2:10Pergens, my colleague from Het Belang
- 2:12van Limburg in Belgium. Five containers
- 2:15on that ship and, on paper, this is a
- 2:17normal transport. Nothing strange about
- 2:20it. There is all kinds of scrap in
- 2:22those containers. So, uh, old iron,
- 2:24rusty bicycles, car rims, just trash at
- 2:27first glance. Nothing, nothing wrong
- 2:30with that. But that is not the case. It
- 2:32is just a facade. Because among all
- 2:35that scrap, there is also a cube that
- 2:37was specially made for this job. Welded
- 2:41together, actually. And inside that
- 2:43cube is 11,500 kg of cocaine.
- 2:46That is really an extraordinary amount.
- 2:4811,500 kg. When you talk about scrap,
- 2:51why is it in the scrap specifically? I
- 2:53know the shipments, the banana
- 2:55shipments, let's say, but why in this
- 2:56way?
- 2:57Yes, that has obviously been thought
- 2:58through. It is no coincidence that
- 3:00there happens to be a cube among all
- 3:02that scrap. There are two reasons for
- 3:05it, but it is important to know.
- 3:08Prosecutors suspect that Geert F is the
- 3:10one who devised this plan. So, the
- 3:13scrap metal method, and that he’s
- 3:15also taking on the entire organization.
- 3:17And why would he have come up with that
- 3:19? It’s actually quite sophisticated.
- 3:22That scrap metal comes in all sorts of
- 3:24different shapes and it’s various
- 3:26types of metal. So when you see that on
- 3:28a scan, it doesn't immediately stand
- 3:30out if there’s an odd shape or a
- 3:32different material mixed in. That’s
- 3:35one thing. Two, because of all that
- 3:38metal, the scanner’s beam is actually
- 3:40slightly distorted. Not completely, but
- 3:44the chances are a bit higher. So
- 3:46that’s also a plus for those carrying
- 3:48it out. And such a scrap metal
- 3:52container is actually checked manually,
- 3:54so physically, by customs. And those
- 3:56just aren't popular containers to
- 3:58inspect, because you’ll cut your arms
- 4:00and hands open, you know. They are
- 4:03slightly more inclined to let such a
- 4:05container pass. So that has clearly
- 4:07been thought through. And it’s also a
- 4:10method that works. If you dare to put
- 4:1511,500 kg on a container, on a shipment
- 4:18, then you’re confident it will
- 4:20succeed. Prior to this transport,
- 4:24several shipments had already gone from
- 4:26South America, from Guyana, to the port
- 4:29of Antwerp. They know this can work.
- 4:34Otherwise, you wouldn't take such an
- 4:36enormous risk. 11,500 kg, just to put
- 4:38it into perspective, represents a value
- 4:41—and I'm talking about wholesale
- 4:44price only—of at least € 170
- 4:46million. The street value is much
- 4:49higher. It’s heading toward € 600
- 4:51million. This is about something
- 4:54significant. But then, shortly before
- 4:57the container arrives at the port of
- 4:59Antwerp, there’s a major hitch in the
- 5:01plans.
- 5:02What happens then?
- 5:05An important link, a Belgian man in the
- 5:08international cocaine trade, is
- 5:10arrested. And this man is an
- 5:15acquaintance of Geert F. And this all
- 5:17happens while that container with 11.5
- 5:19tons of coke is en route from South
- 5:21America to Antwerp and later to the
- 5:23Netherlands. That important link is a
- 5:28Belgian businessman. That’s Tom B.
- 5:32He’s someone who prosecutors say
- 5:34supports almost all cocaine traffickers
- 5:36on a logistical level. But that’s no
- 5:40small feat, of course. He is an
- 5:42important, yes, an important pawn in
- 5:44the whole operation. And you should
- 5:46know, Geert is also arrested. So not
- 5:49just Tom, but also the Geert F we’re
- 5:51talking about now. He is also taken by
- 5:55the police, along with his wife, at the
- 5:57very moment that this huge cargo is on
- 5:59its way.
- 6:01But why is he being arrested, then?
- 6:04Well, Tom B isn't being arrested before
- 6:06the transport is underway, of course,
- 6:08because the police don't know about
- 6:10that yet. But there is another shipment
- 6:13from a year prior. That one concerns
- 6:17nearly 3,000 kg of cocaine from Costa
- 6:19Rica, so again from that Central
- 6:22American region. And the prosecution
- 6:26suspects that not only is Tom involved
- 6:28in that, but Geert is involved as well.
- 6:32And so Geert is arrested along with his
- 6:34wife, and they are really put through
- 6:36the ringer by the police, asking, "What
- 6:38is your relationship with Tom B?""What
- 6:40is your relationship with the other
- 6:42suspects?""How do you know them?""Did
- 6:45you have a role in that shipment of
- 6:47nearly 3,000 kg?" All while those
- 6:5211,500 kg are actually in transit. And
- 6:55you have to realize that at that moment
- 6:57, those 11,500 kg is the largest drug
- 6:59shipment ever. At least for Belgium,
- 7:02but you can safely say for Western
- 7:04Europe, one of the biggest ever. And at
- 7:08that moment, Tom and Geert are key
- 7:10figures within that trade. They are
- 7:13both in custody. That causes stress for
- 7:17the entire periphery, the men
- 7:19surrounding Geert. But that is only for
- 7:23a while, because ultimately there is
- 7:25too little evidence to keep Geert
- 7:27detained for that shipment from Costa
- 7:29Rica, for those nearly 3,000 kg. And
- 7:33when he is released, he has to find a
- 7:35place to store the drugs. Because, well
- 7:38, the businessman who was going to
- 7:40arrange it, who was going to manage the
- 7:42logistics for the transport, Tom B, is
- 7:44in jail. Geert has to look for another
- 7:47location, and it seems he succeeds.
- 7:49So, the cocaine is on its way, 11,500
- 7:53kg. Geert F was arrested, but then
- 7:55subsequently released. So actually,
- 7:57there's nothing wrong. Everything can
- 7:59just continue.
- 8:00Yes, you would think so. But a few
- 8:03weeks later, we are now at October 17th
- 8:05, that huge load of coke arrives in
- 8:07that container full of scrap metal. And
- 8:11indeed, it arrives at the port of
- 8:13Antwerp without any problems. The
- 8:16criminals behind it—regardless of
- 8:18whether it's actually Geert, as the
- 8:20prosecution claims—but the criminals
- 8:23behind it keep each other informed via
- 8:25Sky ECC. And Sky ECC. I think I've
- 8:28explained it here before, but it's a
- 8:30kind of more heavily encrypted version
- 8:32of WhatsApp, for example. Just a chat
- 8:34service. Someone at the port nicknamed
- 8:38"Kaasje" is providing updates and sends
- 8:40—I’m quoting literally— "
- 8:42Clearance has started. Everything
- 8:45smooth and normal." Well, a sigh of
- 8:47relief, right? The K arrives, but then
- 8:51the container isn't released. You
- 8:54should know that at the port,
- 8:56containers are set to red or green.
- 8:58Well, if it’s on red, you’ve got a
- 9:00problem. Then the container gets
- 9:01inspected. If it’s on green, it can
- 9:04pass through, and then your haul is
- 9:06basically in, on European soil. This
- 9:11one isn't being released because,
- 9:13according to customs, something is
- 9:14wrong with the cargo weight. The scrap
- 9:20metal dealer in Guyana made a
- 9:21calculation error, so the weight on
- 9:23paper no longer matches the actual
- 9:25weight of the container. And naturally,
- 9:29customs wonders: "Yes, how is this
- 9:31possible? What’s going on here?" And
- 9:35so, that container is held for days at
- 9:37the port of Antwerp. Yes, that causes
- 9:41unrest. Panic breaks out in the
- 9:43underworld. Because 11.5 tons doesn't
- 9:45belong to just one person. Many
- 9:48different criminal groups invest in
- 9:49that. So things get tense. The scrap
- 9:53dealer in Guyana who sent the
- 9:55containers is now on the run. And
- 9:58rightly so, because you’ve really got
- 10:00a problem. I just told you what kind of
- 10:01amounts we’re talking about here.
- 10:03That man is being held accountable for
- 10:05it. And we see that later in the chat
- 10:07messages, those Sky messages. Someone
- 10:11who authorities say is part of Geert's
- 10:13group says: Regarding the scrap dealer
- 10:15who messed up: "Finish him, brother. I
- 10:18told him 1,000 times: 'Watch the weight
- 10:21on the bill of lading.'"
- 10:22Yeah. And what happens then?
- 10:25Well, Geert is not happy, of course. He
- 10:29wants those drugs in. At least,
- 10:31assuming we're talking about Geert,
- 10:33right? Following the line of the
- 10:35prosecution. He wants those drugs.
- 10:38It’s about an incredible amount of
- 10:40money, so he tries twice to secretly
- 10:42pluck the cocaine out of that container
- 10:44. And that fails. And then comes the
- 10:48final blow. On October 27th, the police
- 10:52actually open the container. That
- 10:54hadn't happened yet, up to that point.
- 10:56It had only been held. But on October
- 10:5827th, it happens. And they soon come
- 11:01across that cube, of course, because
- 11:02it’s a striking shape. And they open
- 11:05it. Yes, there are photos of that.
- 11:07It’s, it’s bizarre. They cut open
- 11:11that cube and the bricks of cocaine
- 11:13just roll out, and then it's the
- 11:14biggest drug bust ever in Belgium.
- 11:18Yeah. Yeah, it's really bizarre. But
- 11:20doesn't it also mean that if you lose
- 11:2311,500 kg of coke, or lose it to the
- 11:25justice system, that it's the end of
- 11:27such a criminal career?
- 11:30Yeah, you'd think so. Yeah, that's how
- 11:32I looked at it too. Only when you read
- 11:35the chats that the justice department
- 11:37says are Geert's, you see a completely
- 11:39different reaction. He disappears
- 11:43towards Spain, to Marbella, right. A
- 11:46luxury coastal town in Spain. He knows
- 11:49that place. He had been there more
- 11:51often. And when he is asked there by
- 11:53people, "Hey, do you have any more
- 11:55blocks," meaning kilos of cocaine. Yeah
- 11:58, then he says, "Yeah, I'm already
- 12:00working on a new shipment." So, that's
- 12:02possible. And you also see in chat
- 12:05messages that the justice department
- 12:07says are his, that he's actually joking
- 12:10a bit about losing that batch of
- 12:11cocaine, about such a batch worth
- 12:13millions of euros. Yeah, he doesn't
- 12:16seem to lose any sleep over that.
- 12:18Can't really imagine that. Especially
- 12:20when it involves such amounts of money.
- 12:22Let's park that drug bust for a moment.
- 12:24First, let's look at Geert F. How did
- 12:26you, when did he come onto your radar?
- 12:28We actually have to go back to 2014 in
- 12:30a completely different context. It had
- 12:32nothing to do with cocaine or anything
- 12:34like that. But you have to know that
- 12:36the 2010s, if you want to call it that,
- 12:39were very much colored by motorcycle
- 12:41clubs in Limburg. That province was
- 12:43really a walhalla for every club you
- 12:45could think of. So you had chapters of
- 12:47Bandidos, Hells Angels, Satudarah, No
- 12:50Surrender. Every major club had at
- 12:52least one chapter here in Geleen,
- 12:54Heerlen, Maastricht, Venlo. Um, and
- 12:57Bandidos was also founded in Limburg.
- 13:02And it's interesting to know, Bandidos
- 13:04is the big rival of the Hells Angels.
- 13:08And Bandidos was actually founded by a
- 13:10very notorious former Angel, Harry
- 13:12Raamakers. Now, I've been told that
- 13:18Harry, you know, has mutual friends and
- 13:20acquaintances with Geert. And it was
- 13:25decided at the founding of the club
- 13:26that Geert F. would join the Bandidos.
- 13:30Harry becomes the president of the club
- 13:32and Geert gets a prominent role.
- 13:34Yeah, Harry Raamakers. Yeah, I remember
- 13:36that name well, because he was in the
- 13:38spotlight quite a lot during that time
- 13:40too. Not a small player.
- 13:41No, certainly not. And Harry Raamakers
- 13:45is no ordinary club leader either. You
- 13:50could actually write at least one book
- 13:52about everything that has happened in
- 13:53his life. Maybe even an entire series
- 13:56of books. He has a rather intense past.
- 14:00And that goes way back, long before he
- 14:02founded the Bandidos. He was with the
- 14:05Angels, you know, as I said, with the
- 14:07Nomads. That was the Limburg branch of
- 14:11the Hells Angels. A very notorious
- 14:14chapter, too. And he was a member of No
- 14:16Surrender. So, this was actually his
- 14:18third motorcycle club, which is very
- 14:20unusual. One of the most well-known
- 14:24cases that perhaps more people
- 14:26recognize him from is from 2004 in
- 14:28Oirsbeek, at the clubhouse of the
- 14:30Nomads, the Limburg Hells Angels. Three
- 14:37club members were shot to death there.
- 14:40Absolutely riddled with bullets. By
- 14:42members of their own club. Raamakers
- 14:47and 14 other club members were
- 14:48initially convicted for it. They were
- 14:52arrested and sentenced to six years in
- 14:54prison. On appeal, something happened
- 15:00that legal circles still can't stop
- 15:02talking about, all these years later.
- 15:08The court of appeal said: "We actually
- 15:09don't know which one of you did it.""We
- 15:12know someone among you did it, but not
- 15:14who.""So, we are acquitting you all."
- 15:19Yes, everyone's jaw hit the floor at
- 15:21that moment. And for Raamakers, it
- 15:25wasn't the first time he seemed to
- 15:27escape justice. Because in 2003, he
- 15:30walked free in another murder case. A
- 15:3419-year-old Antillean had been cut into
- 15:36pieces and found in a canal. Also a
- 15:39very gruesome case, but again, there
- 15:42was insufficient evidence to convict
- 15:44Raamakers. And this man brings the
- 15:48Bandidos, the great rivals of the
- 15:50Angels, to Sittard. Yes. And then he
- 15:54becomes the leader, and Geert gets
- 15:55involved.
- 15:56But how did he end up there?
- 16:01Look, Geert F is indeed Belgian, but
- 16:03it's good to know that in that
- 16:05Belgian-Dutch border region,
- 16:07specifically South Limburg and
- 16:08Tongeren-Borgloon where he's from. Yes.
- 16:14People do a lot of business there.
- 16:16It’s only a half-hour drive. And that
- 16:20is also his world. The criminal world,
- 16:24too. All those guys do business with
- 16:26each other. And well, he is quite an
- 16:29imposing figure. Geert F. A sturdy guy.
- 16:35He can intimidate people without even
- 16:36opening his mouth. So he is also rising
- 16:40very quickly through the ranks within
- 16:43the Bandidos. And he becomes Sergeant
- 16:46at Arms, which is someone who is
- 16:48actually supposed to maintain order and
- 16:50discipline within the club.
- 16:52And what kind of club is that, the
- 16:53Bandidos?
- 16:56Well, it has turned out to be a club
- 16:58that really thrives on violence and
- 17:00intimidation. Members are also involved
- 17:06in drugs, money laundering, and
- 17:08extortion. But there is one incident.
- 17:14That really stands out. It is 2015 in
- 17:18Sittard at a café called the Duck Out.
- 17:22And we actually know all of this so
- 17:24well because we have security footage
- 17:26of this whole incident. You can see 15
- 17:31Bandidos arriving there. The café has
- 17:36a terrace, and at that moment, there
- 17:37are people from the Red Devils present.
- 17:41That is a support club for the Hells
- 17:43Angels, actually. So, also rivals of
- 17:45the Bandidos. And the Duck Out is
- 17:48actually the regular hangout for those
- 17:50Red Devils. Well, the Bandidos arrive,
- 17:55they park their motorcycles, and they
- 17:57head straight toward the few Red Devils
- 17:59quite aggressively. In the lead, we
- 18:03obviously see Harry Raamakers. The
- 18:06president. He is very busy, talking and
- 18:09gesturing. You can just feel the
- 18:13tension. People are really wound up,
- 18:18and then suddenly things go wrong, and
- 18:20Geert F strikes out at another man, a
- 18:22Red Devil. Or so it seems. That man
- 18:28goes to the ground, and within a few
- 18:30seconds, it is total chaos. There is
- 18:34punching and kicking, and men are
- 18:35falling to the ground. Someone from the
- 18:39Red Devils is pushed over the edge of
- 18:41the terrace and gets hit even more.
- 18:45Another Bandido comes running over and
- 18:47kicks toward the head of the man on the
- 18:49ground. And yet another Bandido knocks
- 18:54over a motorcycle or tries to knock it
- 18:56over. And you have to imagine, such a
- 18:58thing weighs 300 kilograms. Yes,
- 19:00imagine if that lands on someone. Well,
- 19:03then you're done for, of course. And
- 19:06then suddenly, pop, you hear a bang.
- 19:09And you see that a shot is fired from
- 19:11inside the café, from the Duck Out.
- 19:15One of the Bandidos is hit, and you see
- 19:17them scatter like ants. They go in
- 19:20every direction. The Bandidos disappear
- 19:23, but they don't go home. I find this a
- 19:26, this is really a striking detail.
- 19:29They ride to Kerkrade to a restaurant.
- 19:32And back then, that was known as, uh,
- 19:35well, the regular hangout for the Hells
- 19:37Angels. And then they go and pose for a
- 19:40photo together in front of the
- 19:41restaurant. So, they take a group photo
- 19:44in front of the Angels 'regular spot.
- 19:48And they send that photo to one of the
- 19:49Angels' leaders.
- 19:51But that’s going to cause a war,
- 19:52right? What, what does the police do at
- 19:54a moment
- 19:55like that, actually? This is the major
- 19:57turning point, right? So, the incident
- 19:59at the dugout. Uh, that's where the
- 20:01police and the municipality say, "This
- 20:03far and no further." Um, they believe
- 20:05—and I’m talking about the police
- 20:07and the justice department—that the
- 20:09Bandidos are actually behaving like a
- 20:11criminal organization. That they
- 20:12constitute a gang. Um, and it's so
- 20:17severe that the Minister of Justice and
- 20:19Security at the time, Ard van der Steur
- 20:22, travels from The Hague to Maastricht,
- 20:24really to be fully briefed on this
- 20:26conflict and what we can do about it.
- 20:31And, uh, two days after the minister's
- 20:34visit, on May 27th, 2015, the police
- 20:37response follows immediately.
- 20:39At the Bandidos Motorcycle Club. They
- 20:41go all out. It’s 6:00 a.m. and Josie,
- 20:47Harry Raamakers’ pit bull, starts
- 20:49reacting to some noise at the front
- 20:51door. And Raamakers comes right down
- 20:56the stairs, you know. He trusts his dog
- 20:59. He is a huge animal lover. And he’s
- 21:02standing there in his underwear. And
- 21:06then he realizes, "Oh, okay, they’re
- 21:08coming for me." The SWAT team is on his
- 21:11doorstep, and he’s terrified—you
- 21:13have to imagine this—that they’re
- 21:15going to shoot his dog. And then, boom,
- 21:19the SWAT team storms in with, you know,
- 21:22people, right? You know the images: the
- 21:25balaclavas and, uh, heavy weapons. Uh,
- 21:29such a huge bang to smash the door in.
- 21:32And then they all pile onto Raamakers.
- 21:35Uh, and why? Why with so much force?
- 21:38Because Raamakers, uh, is considered—
- 21:40at that moment, at least—to be armed
- 21:42and dangerous, right? So they can't
- 21:44take any risks. Um, they put a
- 21:48blindfold on him, handcuffs behind his
- 21:50back, and then, uh, they lead him away
- 21:53in his bare feet, wearing a black
- 21:55Bandido shirt and his black underwear.
- 21:58Yeah, you really only see this kind of
- 22:00stuff in movies, don't you? Why, why do
- 22:02they approach it on such a large scale?
- 22:04Is that purely because he’s
- 22:05considered armed and dangerous, or
- 22:08they fear new confrontations, and even
- 22:10much tougher ones, you know. It keeps
- 22:14escalating, and, well, at the Dugout,
- 22:17there wasn't just a fight—it was
- 22:19old-school brawling. No, this time,
- 22:22shots were fired too. So, what's the
- 22:24reaction to that? Well, the feeling
- 22:28among the police and judicial
- 22:29authorities is that this could really
- 22:31escalate. But what was that whole
- 22:34business in the café about? What was
- 22:35that argument really about?
- 22:38That only really becomes clear years
- 22:40later. I'll tell you in a moment. You
- 22:44see, you first have to know that the
- 22:46authorities were hot on the heels of
- 22:48this motorcycle club, and after the
- 22:49violence at the Dugout, everything
- 22:51started to accelerate. And eventually,
- 22:54a criminal trial takes place because
- 22:56they conducted those raids, of course.
- 22:59Yes, it’s a logical consequence that
- 23:01a trial eventually had to happen. In
- 23:052021, at least 20 Bandidos members and
- 23:07some of their family members have to
- 23:10appear in court. And Geert F. is one of
- 23:14them. And the Public Prosecution
- 23:17Service actually links various
- 23:18incidents together in that case. So
- 23:23it’s not just about what happened
- 23:25there at the Dugout; it's also about a
- 23:27heated dispute over a fence, for
- 23:29example, and the extortion that
- 23:30followed. A conflict over a 10,000-euro
- 23:37loan, a deal with a real estate agent
- 23:39that got out of hand—there’s a
- 23:41sense of extortion, assault, and
- 23:43illegal money flows surrounding all of
- 23:45it. According to the authorities, these
- 23:50Bandidos members who were prosecuted
- 23:52resolved all these kinds of conflicts
- 23:55—over a fence, a loan, or a real
- 23:57estate agent—by bringing in their
- 23:59comrades, by involving club members. So
- 24:02you didn't just have a conflict with
- 24:04one person, but with an entire
- 24:06motorcycle club. The justice department
- 24:10doesn't see the Bandidos as an ordinary
- 24:12motorcycle club, as guys who just enjoy
- 24:15going for a ride. It's not a social
- 24:18club; it's a criminal organization. And
- 24:22according to the authorities, it is
- 24:24involved in extortion, money laundering
- 24:26, drug trafficking, violence, and
- 24:28weapons possession. And one of the most
- 24:33important pieces of evidence in the
- 24:35entire trial is that evening at the
- 24:37Dugout in Sittard. Because according to
- 24:41the prosecution, that incident
- 24:43perfectly illustrates how the club
- 24:45actually operated as a criminal
- 24:46organization.
- 24:48But that brings us back to that moment
- 24:50at the Dugout in Sittard. So tell me
- 24:51about the motive then. Shots were fired
- 24:53there, right?
- 24:54Hey, Judith here, very briefly. I
- 24:56promise. Want more stories from the
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- 25:16.
- 25:16And for a long time, the "why" remains
- 25:19silent. Until one person in the
- 25:22courtroom starts talking. Geert F. He
- 25:25explains that the feud actually started
- 25:28with, well, something seemingly very
- 25:30small. One of the guys from the
- 25:34Bandidos—and I'll quote Geert here
- 25:36literally—was set up. At a warehouse,
- 25:41the Angels, the rivals, took his colors
- 25:44. So, that biker jacket, so to speak.
- 25:49And according to Geert, they simply
- 25:50wanted to go and get that jacket back.
- 25:53And he says: "Yeah, we wanted to do
- 25:56that in a normal way. Without violence,
- 25:58without stress. Just, hey guys, give
- 26:00the jacket back." And Geert F says the
- 26:05Bandidos were looking for the president
- 26:07of the Angels who supposedly lived near
- 26:09that café, just to have a chat and
- 26:11resolve everything. No fuss. And when
- 26:17they can't find the president, they
- 26:18drive to the Dugout. But according to
- 26:22Geert, things go wrong as soon as
- 26:23someone shouts that they're going to
- 26:25shoot someone down. Well, the court
- 26:32hears this story from Geert F. And then
- 26:34wants to know from the president, Harry
- 26:36Raamakers, if he has his men, his
- 26:38troops, his Bandidos so poorly under
- 26:40control that when someone yells about
- 26:42shooting, they think they can
- 26:44immediately start swinging. But the
- 26:51most important man, the boss of the
- 26:53Bandidos, Harry Raamakers, isn't there
- 26:55that day. He called in sick because he
- 26:58had to take care of his sick parrots
- 27:00and take them to the vet.
- 27:01Back to the violence that ultimately
- 27:03happened at the Dugout; it was all
- 27:05about a jacket or a patch.
- 27:06That is what Geert F tells the judge.
- 27:09However, there is another scenario. You
- 27:12should know that the suspects, the
- 27:14Bandidos, were also wiretapped. Their
- 27:18phones were tapped. Recording equipment
- 27:22was placed in cars, for example, and
- 27:24those wiretapped conversations reveal
- 27:26that it was retaliation for a café
- 27:28fire in Kerkrade. And that café wasn't
- 27:32just any café. It was a place where
- 27:35Bandidos used to meet up. A sort of
- 27:38clubhouse, their own local bar. And
- 27:42that fire was supposedly started by
- 27:44someone from the Angels. So, in this
- 27:46scenario as well, there is that element
- 27:48of retaliation. Um, well, when it comes
- 27:50down to it, the suspects stick to one
- 27:53story, and that is the story of the
- 27:55stolen vest, the story of Geert F.
- 27:57And how were those men ultimately
- 27:59punished?
- 27:59Harry Raamakers, the president,
- 28:01received a 14-month prison sentence. He
- 28:03did file an appeal, though. And Geert
- 28:06F., he got 10 months in prison and he
- 28:08did not appeal. I still have that
- 28:1111,500 kilos of cocaine in the back of
- 28:13my mind. How did Geert F. end up in
- 28:15that coke trade?
- 28:16Yes, well. We always knew him as the
- 28:19man from the motorcycle club, and the
- 28:21authorities also thought for a long
- 28:23time that he was Harry Raamakers 'front
- 28:25man, right? So, that the Bandidos
- 28:27revolved around Raamakers and Geert was
- 28:30, uh, behind that. But his role within
- 28:33the Bandidos actually appears to be
- 28:35much larger than expected, as the
- 28:36authorities later discovered. Uh,
- 28:39according to the authorities, according
- 28:41to those investigations, he is, little
- 28:44by little, also becoming the financier
- 28:46and organizer of all sorts of large
- 28:49coke shipments from South America—
- 28:51Ecuador, Costa Rica, Brazil—and from
- 28:53all those international investigations,
- 28:56the image emerges: Geert F. is not just
- 28:58any biker.
- 29:01Let me just make sure I understand this
- 29:03correctly. You got to know Geert F.
- 29:05when he joined the Bandidos, right?
- 29:06Through Harry Raamakers. Back then, he
- 29:08was mainly a biker who threw the first
- 29:11punch at the dugout and that whole
- 29:12scene you described. But we also see
- 29:15his influence growing. His activities
- 29:18are likely growing along with him. Um,
- 29:20because you say you are also talking
- 29:21about various investigations where
- 29:23Geert F. comes up. Then we are talking
- 29:25about the coke trade. I am thinking of
- 29:27those 11,500 kg. Where are we in this
- 29:29story? Well, by now we are at the Costa
- 29:33investigation. A Belgian case file. Um,
- 29:37regular listeners might still remember
- 29:39it from our episode about "Boekie,"
- 29:41about Jub H., the accountant of the
- 29:44underworld. Um, and that actually
- 29:47starts in 2019. A massive batch of
- 29:50cocaine is discovered in the port of
- 29:52Antwerp. Um, and that is where what we
- 29:56will later know as the Costa file
- 29:57actually begins. And, over the years, a
- 30:02large network comes into view for the
- 30:04Belgian police, consisting of all kinds
- 30:06of people involved in that
- 30:08international trade. And what helps
- 30:11with that is, well, I mentioned earlier
- 30:13, Sky ECC—that WhatsApp for criminals
- 30:15, so to speak—the fact that the
- 30:17messaging service is cracked. All those
- 30:20messages certainly help in mapping out
- 30:22that enormous network. And Geert F.,
- 30:25the authorities say, is one of those
- 30:28people from that network. Um, in those
- 30:33intercepted chats, the investigation
- 30:35team, the police, they see that he has
- 30:38direct contact with other suspects,
- 30:40involved in making arrangements for
- 30:42shipments and deliveries. And, in total
- 30:48, Costa involves at least 25,000
- 30:50kilograms, with the expectation that it
- 30:53actually exceeds a hundred tons,
- 30:55heading toward 120,000 kilograms. And
- 31:00the routes, that's really the recurring
- 31:02story within Costa, they all run from
- 31:04South America to the port of Antwerp
- 31:06and often also on toward the
- 31:08Netherlands. And for that, various
- 31:12companies are used that supposedly
- 31:13order those containers.
- 31:15Yes, like that scrap metal.
- 31:17Like that scrap metal. Exactly. Um.
- 31:19And does Geert F. have a central role
- 31:21in this story?
- 31:22That is what the Public Prosecution
- 31:23Service thinks. And that makes him one
- 31:27of the most important suspects in that
- 31:29Costa case file.
- 31:31But how is that case exactly put
- 31:32together? Costa is, certainly in
- 31:35Belgium, but I dare say for Europe, one
- 31:38of the biggest cocaine cases of recent
- 31:40years. Actually extensive in many
- 31:44different ways. As I just said, it
- 31:48starts in 2019 with that big find in
- 31:50the port of Antwerp. And from that
- 31:54moment on, the police spend years
- 31:56digging. And it turns out they aren't
- 32:03dealing with one cell, with one group,
- 32:05but with multiple criminal networks,
- 32:07which all have their own structure, but
- 32:09their own specialty, as it were. There
- 32:15are four cells, really. You have the
- 32:19network of the Belgian Lucio Aquino.
- 32:22Well, I explained that earlier
- 32:23regarding Yupa. They are called the
- 32:26Sopranos of the Meuse. He is currently
- 32:29detained in a major mafia trial, so
- 32:31that gives you an idea of the kind of
- 32:33man we're talking about. You have a
- 32:37criminal network surrounding "Bolle Jos
- 32:39." At least, that's the suspicion. Well
- 32:42, we know Bolle Jos. Jos Leidekers from
- 32:44Breda. The most wanted man in our
- 32:47country. And then you have the third
- 32:50network. That is Geert F.'s. You might
- 32:54think, "I just talked about four
- 32:55networks, and that's right." I already
- 32:59spoke earlier in this episode about Tom
- 33:02B., that Belgian businessman. He has a
- 33:05unique nickname, the "Little Escobar of
- 33:08Kasterlee." Well, Escobar, we all know
- 33:12him, the major drug lord from Colombia.
- 33:17And that Little Escobar of Kasterlee
- 33:19was flanked by Willie van M., who is a
- 33:21former top officer from Belgium. And
- 33:27those two actually form their own
- 33:29little group and operate around those
- 33:31other three organizations. So that is
- 33:34essentially how it works in a nutshell.
- 33:36But then an officer who is involved in
- 33:38the trade themselves, right? That’s a
- 33:39fine group, that.
- 33:41Uh yeah. And how? Because what the
- 33:43justice department sees is that these
- 33:45networks work together, right, and they
- 33:47share, uh, people. So, uh, I was
- 33:49talking about those different
- 33:50specialties. Well, if you need "
- 33:52extractors," for example, people who
- 33:54pull cocaine out of containers at the
- 33:56port. Well, then you can borrow them
- 33:58from that group, and so on. So that’s
- 34:00how those specialists are exchanged,
- 34:02resources are exchanged, contacts in
- 34:04the ports are exchanged. Everything
- 34:07just to bring those large batches of
- 34:09cocaine in together, but also to be
- 34:11able to spread the risk, to be able to
- 34:13divide it among each other. And, uh,
- 34:16well that creates mutual trust, for
- 34:18what that's worth in that world. But
- 34:21yeah, you can also just share the costs
- 34:23that way.
- 34:23And what does it yield?
- 34:25Yeah, uh, massive piles of money if you
- 34:27believe the justice department, right,
- 34:29based on the calculations they’ve
- 34:31made. And they say, "Well, there is at
- 34:33least that 25,000 kg of coke that they
- 34:36were able to verify." Maybe even that
- 34:39120,000 kg. And those proceeds run into
- 34:43the billions of euros, at least
- 34:44according to the justice department. Um
- 34:47, but you don't just have those huge
- 34:49financial returns; the justice
- 34:51department has also identified more
- 34:53than 50 people. 50-plus suspects in
- 34:57that Costa case file. And those aren't
- 35:00just the big names, right, not just the
- 35:03Aquinos, not just Geert F, not just
- 35:05Bolle Jos, but also people you wouldn't
- 35:07immediately expect in such an
- 35:09incredibly massive cocaine case.
- 35:12Like
- 35:15there are, for example, a father and
- 35:18son from Landgraaf, the 70-year-old
- 35:20Frans Senior and, uh, his son Frans
- 35:23Junior. Um, those are two scrap metal
- 35:27dealers. And remember that shipment of
- 35:3211,500 kg that was ordered by their
- 35:34shell company, by their scrap yard? Um,
- 35:39I just mentioned, right, companies were
- 35:42brought in to order those containers,
- 35:44so there’s a sort of, yeah, a veneer
- 35:46of legality surrounding such a
- 35:48transport. Yeah, according to the
- 35:51justice department, that company in
- 35:53Landgraaf worked together with Geert by
- 35:56ordering that container with those 11.5
- 35:58tons of cocaine, so they must have
- 36:00known it didn't just contain scrap
- 36:02metal. Yeah, that’s how seemingly
- 36:06normal entrepreneurs from Landgraaf, a
- 36:09father and a son, um, yeah, end up in
- 36:11this massive trial. And what is quite
- 36:14notable, uh, against both of those men,
- 36:16so against father and son, 8 years in
- 36:19prison has been demanded. And, uh, the
- 36:21contact between the two has been
- 36:23completely broken. They are really in
- 36:26different camps and are pointing at
- 36:27each other as the guilty party in this
- 36:29story.
- 36:29And this Frans senior, he says he is 70
- 36:32years old. And does that make him the
- 36:34oldest in this case file?
- 36:35No, I understand why you're asking that
- 36:37. 70 is truly an age that I don't often
- 36:39come across in such extensive criminal
- 36:41files. But the real old-timers are, for
- 36:45example, a truck driver of 86 who
- 36:48allegedly transported pellets of
- 36:50bananas with cocaine. And, of course,
- 36:54one of the prominent figures, that old
- 36:56top cop, Willy van M. Yes, he is also
- 36:59in his 80s.
- 37:00Then the file still has Costa. That is,
- 37:02of course, a gigantic trial. How is
- 37:04that going?
- 37:05It is at least coming to an end. Costa
- 37:08is huge, right? There are over 50
- 37:10defendants in it. It’s thousands of
- 37:13pages of files, you have to imagine,
- 37:15it's truly enormous. And the trial
- 37:18itself, well, it has just been very
- 37:20messy. Many hearing days that didn't go
- 37:23ahead due to all sorts of legal
- 37:25bickering, to put it bluntly. Hearing
- 37:29days that were postponed. The verdict
- 37:32has even been delayed. It was supposed
- 37:35to be July 1st, and now it is in the
- 37:37middle of summer vacation on July 30th.
- 37:40All in all, it's just taking a very
- 37:42long time.
- 37:42And what are the suspects actually
- 37:44saying?
- 37:46Most suspects have denied it or have
- 37:48reduced their role to a minimum. But
- 37:53most are actually remaining silent
- 37:55about their alleged share in the Costa
- 37:57case. Meanwhile, millions of euros in
- 38:01cash and in bank accounts have been
- 38:03seized. At least 100 cars have been
- 38:08seized, along with dozens of watches,
- 38:10jewelry, and even paintings and
- 38:12vacation villas. And in the meantime,
- 38:18the prosecution has demanded a total of
- 38:20455 years in prison for all those
- 38:22suspects. And the heaviest demand is 20
- 38:26years in prison. And that is for Geert
- 38:29F.
- 38:30And what does he say about that himself
- 38:32? Well, that is the distinct thing
- 38:35about Geert; he always makes his voice
- 38:38heard on these kinds of points. And he
- 38:42literally said the following: "I hope
- 38:44that you will not be led by the
- 38:46overblown media circus." So that is
- 38:49what he shared with the judge. And
- 38:51perhaps even more interesting. During
- 38:54this monster trial, we have of course
- 38:56seen a lot of him and talked a lot
- 38:58about him. And then we discovered that
- 39:03he is actually switching over or has
- 39:04already switched. That is still a bit
- 39:07up in the air. To the Hells Angels.
- 39:10And that is the big rival of the
- 39:12Bandidos. Correct. And uh for months it
- 39:16was rumored during that trial, well,
- 39:18you have to know, Geert had a Bandidos
- 39:21tattoo on his face, right. So yeah, the
- 39:25rumor mill started, like, what's going
- 39:27to happen with that tattoo? So every
- 39:29time we saw him walking, we wanted to
- 39:31see if anything had changed yet. And
- 39:34indeed, at one point we saw it was on
- 39:36the side of his face, covering the
- 39:38whole side. We saw that the tattoo was
- 39:41getting darker and the word Bandidos
- 39:43was fading. So um yeah, in the meantime
- 39:46he seems to have switched to the Angels
- 39:48. Uh, by the way, it's not the only
- 39:52tattoo he has on his face. Right at the
- 39:54beginning, that came up briefly. He
- 39:56also has a machine gun tattooed on his
- 39:58forehead. And uh, ECAB, ACAB. Many
- 40:02people translate that as "All Cops Are
- 40:04Bastards," you know. Maybe it means
- 40:07something else to him, but he’s an
- 40:08impressive figure to see.
- 40:10Okay, so Geert hears his sentence on
- 40:12July 30th. I'm thinking about it, but
- 40:15how is Harry Raamakers doing, actually?
- 40:17Harry is currently free. He was
- 40:19convicted back then in the Bandidos
- 40:21trial, of course. He filed an appeal
- 40:23against that. Uh, he was convicted in
- 40:26that appeal as well. And now there’s
- 40:28a cassation pending. So it’s with the
- 40:30Supreme Court. And uh, as long as there
- 40:33is no final conviction, he is a free
- 40:35man. He's in his 60s now and has been
- 40:38in the news a few times. And that
- 40:41wasn't really related to motorcycle
- 40:43club matters, but to his medical
- 40:45situation. Because you should know,
- 40:49Raamakers has actually been struggling
- 40:52with very poor health for years. And
- 40:56what's so unique is that he is the
- 40:57first in the Netherlands. for whom it
- 41:01was successful to fix a tearing aorta
- 41:03with bull skin. That was truly a unique
- 41:08operation and it was successful for him
- 41:09, which should have resolved some of
- 41:11his medical problems. And as far as we
- 41:15know, he is still affiliated with the
- 41:17Bandidos.
- 41:18Regarding the sentences he received,
- 41:19what did he get?
- 41:20Well, I already mentioned that he went
- 41:22to the appeals court in the Bandidos
- 41:24case, right. And that sentence was
- 41:26increased somewhat. He received a 20-
- 41:30month prison sentence in the appeal. He
- 41:33still hasn't served it, because he went
- 41:35from the court of appeal to the Supreme
- 41:37Court. So he filed for cassation. Yes.
- 41:39And that is why he is still free. There
- 41:42is no final conviction yet, and so we
- 41:44cannot definitively say what he got in
- 41:46the Bandidos case.
- 41:48Thank you. July 30 is in the calendar;
- 41:50then we will know what Geert F is
- 41:52facing. If you want to know and follow
- 41:54it, you can read about it in Bas's
- 41:56articles, or on the Underworld's social
- 41:58media. This was The Underworld. Back to
- 42:01the upper world. Hey
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