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0:00Well, he shot in the back, so obviously
0:02he's running away from you.
0:03>> Yeah.
0:04>> So yeah, so he's running away from you.
0:05>> Yes.
0:06>> And you're continuing to fire at him.
0:07>> No.
0:08No. Well, yes.
0:15>> On the morning of May 18th, 2022,
0:1929-year-old Myquon Taylor was getting
0:21ready to leave for work [music] in
0:23Dayton, Ohio, when he was shot outside
0:25his home on West Stewart Street. [music]
0:27His girlfriend, Derriona Ackor, called
0:30911 and told [music] that the gunmen had
0:33run into a nearby house.
0:35When police arrived, Taylor was still
0:38alive, but seriously [music] wounded.
0:40He was rushed to the hospital, where he
0:42died 3 days later.
0:44Officers [music] believed the shooter
0:46was hiding in a neighboring apartment,
0:48so they surrounded the building and
0:50called in SWAT.
0:52For more than 6 hours, they tried to get
0:54the person [music] inside to come out.
0:57But when they finally entered, the
0:59apartment was empty.
1:01Police were looking for 44-year-old
1:03Johnny Lee Trigg Jr.,
1:05a neighbor who had gotten into a
1:07physical fight with Taylor
1:08>> [music]
1:08>> just a few weeks earlier.
1:11On May 25th, US Marshals found Trigg at
1:14another home in Dayton and took him into
1:17custody.
1:19Now, detectives had a chance to hear
1:21[music] his side of what happened that
1:22morning and how the conflict between the
1:24two men had reached this point.
1:27This is the interrogation of Johnny Lee
1:29Trigg Jr.
1:31>> Follow that detective.
1:34>> All right, go ahead and [snorts] have a
1:35seat, Mr. Trigg.
1:43>> You guys not going to hurt me, are you?
1:45>> Absolutely not, sir. Absolutely not.
1:47We're going to give you the same amount
1:49of respect we gave you out at the scene,
1:50okay? You're good. Stay comfortable, all
1:53right? You need a water or anything?
1:54>> Here you go.
1:55>> He's going to get you water, okay?
1:56>> I want to give it to him directly, man.
1:57>> Yeah. You're good, Mr. Craig.
1:59>> You said Pepsi?
2:00>> Yes, sir. Pepsi, please.
2:12>> All right, Johnny. Before we start, I
2:14just wanted to let you know that this
2:15room is audio and video recorded, okay?
2:17We got a recording device here and the
2:19video's right there on the on the
2:21wall, okay?
2:22All right, I'm Detective Boswell, okay?
2:24This is my partner, Detective Farkas,
2:26okay? We work with the Homicide Task
2:28Force, okay?
2:30So, what we're going to talk about today
2:32is is what happened last week, okay? But
2:35before we go into that, okay? Have you
2:37ever had your rights read to you before?
2:38Yes, sir. Okay. I'm just going to we're
2:41going to go over this pre-interview form
2:42for your rights and everything, and we
2:44just want to get your side of the story,
2:45man, okay? That cool? All right.
2:52All right, today's date is
2:55May 25th,
2:582022.
3:03It is
3:0410:06 a.m.
3:07We're at the EPD Safety Building, 335
3:10West 3rd Street,
3:14Dayton, Ohio,
3:15okay?
3:16All right.
3:17Now, I'm going to I'm going to move this
3:18out of the way. So, I'm going to read
3:20you your rights, okay? You're being
3:21interviewed in regards to the crime of a
3:23homicide, okay?
3:24>> Yes, sir.
3:26>> Okay.
3:28All right.
3:29John, how do you spell your name?
3:30>> J A Y G O L B R E A T N N B O Y.
3:33Craig, T R I G G.
3:36>> Which birthday?
3:37>> Junior, that is, sir.
3:38>> Junior, with a spell. Which birthday?
3:41>> 3 7 78.
3:42>> 3 7 78?
3:43>> Yes, sir.
3:44>> What's your social?
3:50I'm going to write it for
3:51>> Uh I don't have my phone. I think I got
3:53both of them on my phone.
3:54>> What were you phone numbers?
4:04What was the other one?
4:14Is that a 937?
4:15>> Yes, sir.
4:17>> Where do you stay at? Where do you live
4:18at?
4:21>> Remember what I asked you? I just got my
4:22new place.
4:29>> [snorts]
4:29>> No, not in here.
4:31But where were you staying before not in
4:33here?
4:38Stanford?
4:40>> Yes, sir.
4:43>> Do you live there with?
4:44>> No, I wasn't.
4:45>> Okay, okay.
4:46All right.
4:47All right, before we ask you any
4:49questions, you must understand your
4:50rights, okay? Number one, you have the
4:52right to remain silent and you do not
4:53have to make any statements or answer
4:55any questions. Do you understand that?
4:57If you understand that, just go ahead
4:58and initial in that line I provided
5:00right there, okay?
5:02You can hold it there, okay? Number two,
5:04anything you say can and will be used
5:06against you in the court of law. Do you
5:07understand that?
5:11Number three, you have the right to talk
5:12to a lawyer for advice before we ask you
5:15any questions and have a right and have
5:17a lawyer with you during questioning. Do
5:19you understand that?
5:22Okay. Number four, if you do not have
5:23the money to hire a lawyer, a lawyer
5:25appointed by the court or a lawyer from
5:27the public defender's office will be
5:29provided to you before or during
5:30questioning without any cost to you. Do
5:31you understand that?
5:33And number five, if you decide to answer
5:34questions now without a lawyer present,
5:36you will still have the right to stop
5:37answering at any time. You also have the
5:39right to stop answering at any time if
5:41before talking to a lawyer. Do you
5:42understand that? Okay.
5:45What How far did you make it in school?
5:4710th
5:47>> grade? Okay, so you want to put you I
5:49completed 10 years of schooling, but you
5:51can read and understand English. If you
5:54could, could you read out the waiver of
5:55rights paragraph right there?
5:56>> I have been advised that the waiver of
5:58rights has been read to me.
6:00I understand what my rights are. I am
6:02willing to make this statement and
6:04answer questions. I do not want a lawyer
6:07at this time. I understand and know what
6:10I am doing.
6:11No promises or threats have been made to
6:13me and pressure or
6:16>> Coercion.
6:17>> Coercion of any kind has been used
6:20against me.
6:20>> Do you know what the word coercion
6:22means?
6:22>> No, sir.
6:23>> Basically, we're not threatening you or
6:25promising anything like, "Hey, you need
6:27to talk to us or this is going to
6:29happen." or something like that. We're
6:30not promising you anything, right? Okay,
6:31so that's what coercion is. Do you
6:32understand that?
6:33>> Yes, sir.
6:33>> Okay. You want to talk to us about what
6:35happened?
6:36>> Well, my attorney advised me not to, but
6:39I'm going
6:40to say
6:42what happened that
6:43>> You want to talk to us? Okay. If you're
6:44good If you want to talk to us, man,
6:45just I just need your signature right
6:47there where it says sign.
6:53And me and my partner are going to
6:55witness it.
7:02All right, Mr. Cherry.
7:04All right. So, obviously, we're here to
7:06talk about a homicide, okay? And
7:09um the incident happened the last last
7:12Wednesday, the 18th. Um so, that's on
7:14West Terrace.
7:15Okay? You currently stay on West
7:17Terrace?
7:18>> I go check on my dad every day. My dad's
7:20diabetic.
7:21>> Okay. Is it your dad's apartment there?
7:24in West Terrace? Okay, you go there
7:26every day and check on him.
7:27>> Check on my dad, but prior to any of
7:35>> [snorts]
7:36>> I went back to my dad's residence.
7:41And I was approached and gentleman with
7:44a pistol.
7:47He kicked
7:49my door down.
7:50He got a pretty good look at my face.
7:53Told me he'd kill me.
7:55He backed over my property.
7:59I don't [snorts] even know this
8:00gentleman.
8:01Never spoke to him, never seen him.
8:05>> [snorts]
8:05>> And I had not been
8:07going down here to see my dad on a
8:09regular basis. I just told the
8:11gentleman.
8:12>> When did all that happen?
8:16>> Uh
8:1822nd
8:20or 23rd of April.
8:22>> Of April? Okay, so last month?
8:27>> The guy had told me
8:29the next time
8:32he seen
8:33an opportunity to put his hands on my
8:35stuff, he'd take it.
8:39He never warned me.
8:41But
8:43>> [snorts]
8:43>> I was leaving my belongings, trying to
8:46move them on the regular basis.
8:48Guy came out.
8:51He seen me, had on my old boots.
8:53>> [snorts]
8:54>> Went back in the house.
8:56He came back with a gun.
8:58Second gun, he pointed it at me.
9:01>> [snorts]
9:06>> He came out Who Who's he?
9:18Who's the guy that came out with the
9:19gun?
9:22>> [snorts]
9:22>> The dead gentleman.
9:24>> The dead gentleman?
9:26Where'd he come out of?
9:29>> From the first house.
9:32Which is two doors from my door.
9:35>> Two doors from your door.
9:37>> Good morning, Bella.
9:41Excuse me.
9:47See me.
9:49I'm back in the house.
9:51This time I was coming back out.
9:54Trash can.
9:56Put it in the back of my truck.
9:58And I came back out the house.
10:01Gone ahead looking for me.
10:09>> [snorts]
10:10>> [ __ ] bastard.
10:13>> What he say to you when he come to?
10:17>> You [ __ ]
10:19>> [snorts]
10:20>> What is that?
10:21>> You dumb [ __ ]
10:22>> Was that you dumb [ __ ]
10:27>> I got cheers that guy's head.
10:29>> Mhm. [clears throat]
10:31You ever seen this guy before? Before
10:33all this incident and everything like
10:34that?
10:35>> Yeah. Every time I would go see my dad,
10:39>> [snorts]
10:39>> I would see him. Never knew the guy.
10:41Never had no altercation just running
10:43into him and
10:44and
10:45>> [clears throat]
10:47>> I don't know why.
10:49He's talking.
10:52>> And when he when he hit you in the mouth
10:54with the gun over a month did you go to
10:55a hospital or anything? Where what where
10:57did you go to?
10:58>> My doctor.
10:59>> Went to the valley?
10:59>> I got it.
11:02Fractured
11:03jaw line.
11:04>> Okay.
11:06>> I'm listening to my old portion.
11:09No other reason to my guy.
11:12All tore up where he getting in the
11:15wrong way.
11:15>> Yeah.
11:16You make a police report at that time?
11:18>> I'm not allowed to, sir. That was a
11:21major pain.
11:22I told them they wanted cases.
11:25I'm so out of it.
11:29I just wanted to leave it alone. I just
11:31said I don't know the guy."
11:33I tried to move.
11:35The thing he did everything.
11:39God, I just
11:40God, I just put
11:41my own spoon.
11:42Every chance he
11:44got.
11:45Talk to me.
11:46Talk to me.
11:47Huh?
11:48>> Where'd you get the cigarette? Where'd
11:50you get the gun that you used?
11:54>> Uh
11:55uh
11:57the round
11:58>> The round? Okay.
12:00Are you allowed to carry a gun?
12:02>> No, sir. I got I got shot.
12:06>> Okay. You got shot before?
12:07>> Oh, he shot me.
12:08>> Okay.
12:09>> So
12:10I never wanted to hurt nobody. You ain't
12:13supposed to touch [ __ ]
12:14>> All right. Listen.
12:16Tell me what happened before
12:18the assault and everything.
12:21Listen, there's a lot of stuff that we
12:23know.
12:24>> Before the assault?
12:26>> Yeah.
12:26You need You need to start being
12:28truthful with me.
12:28>> I know so.
12:29>> Okay.
12:30Cuz I know a lot more than you think I
12:31do.
12:32>> Sir, I'm telling you
12:32>> Okay.
12:33>> I I'm telling you
12:34>> sit from the beginning.
12:35>> Give me a polygraph.
12:36>> Okay. So from the beginning, tell me
12:38what happened before this incident,
12:40before this assault, when he hit you in
12:41the mouth. Where did this all start at?
12:44How did this all start?
12:46>> It started
12:47in the summer bash.
12:50I pulled up.
12:52I got two relatives in the vehicle.
12:56I pulled up.
12:58The gentleman cut our sign.
13:01I took
13:03I took
13:06I said, "You
13:07know what? I'm just pulling up to this
13:09to what?"
13:11I took all the groceries out of the
13:13notch. I took
13:18You ain't never took nothing from
13:20>> Mhm.
13:20>> I borrowed He borrowed it. I'm going to
13:22teach you.
13:23>> What did What did he What did he take?
13:25Or what did he borrow from you?
13:26>> [ __ ] bag of [ __ ] charcoal.
13:29>> Bag of charcoal?
13:30>> [ __ ] bag that made it all the way it
13:32did to me over a [ __ ] bag of charcoal
13:35in the lower
13:37>> Like that, like the grilling charcoal?
13:39You use it to grill?
13:41Or did it just sit on your back porch?
13:44Okay.
13:47So, he takes the bag of charcoal.
13:50Did he end up
13:51paying you for it? Either then or down
13:53the road?
13:55>> They told me he left my book.
13:58The way he approached me
14:01and all I did is just told the man, I
14:03said, "What you dressed as?"
14:05I don't care what it is. I don't really
14:08touch men over here. The man just
14:15>> This was the same day?
14:17>> I approached him about my problem.
14:19>> Okay.
14:20So, this is all the same day?
14:21>> No, everybody over here telling me I did
14:23nothing wrong. I tried to wait this man
14:26out. I have been talking to my dad on a
14:28regular basis
14:30because [snorts] of this gentleman.
14:32And every [ __ ] time this gentleman
14:36would sit on my vehicle, he would come
14:40and talk to me.
14:42Every [ __ ]
14:44time.
14:50And he's from Do you know him? Or do you
14:52know him from? Why don't you buy with
14:54him?
14:55I'm tired of prison. You see me all the
14:57time. You see me with my kids. You see
14:59what I'm doing. And then
15:01let me beg you, please.
15:03I don't
15:06>> [snorts]
15:06>> I don't know.
15:07I don't know what happened. I don't know
15:09anything.
15:14>> So, he he borrows a bag of charcoal from
15:17you. He repays you.
15:19Supposedly.
15:21And then he just pulls out a pistol and
15:23and hits you with it?
15:27>> I don't remember.
15:28>> I don't remember. But, okay. So, this
15:30So, this is So, this was a month ago.
15:32Okay?
15:34So,
15:35last week, on the 18th,
15:37>> Uh no, I'm going to go back.
15:39>> Okay.
15:40>> Well, I was with him.
15:41I seen him at the state store.
15:43>> Mhm.
15:44>> [clears throat]
15:45>> And
15:48he [ __ ] with me. Well, I got my I got
15:51my little package.
15:52>> What do you mean he [ __ ] with you?
15:54>> I don't know him.
15:55Him and two of his guys pulled behind my
15:58truck.
15:59Talking [ __ ]
16:01I was with my other guy. Man, [ __ ] them.
16:04Little young punks, man.
16:06I don't know them.
16:08I don't even know the guy from the guy.
16:13>> I'm going to tell you, too.
16:14>> I'm going to get his vibe.
16:16>> Mhm.
16:17>> I don't know.
16:23>> And then, what?
16:26>> Morning.
16:28I walked to the train with those people
16:30up front of me.
16:31He probably got my dirty look.
16:38And then, he was [ __ ] perfect, man.
16:41>> Was he Was he going to his
16:44his car So, he came out of his
16:46apartment? He came out of your
16:48apartment?
16:48>> No.
16:50I seen he was coming out
16:53his apartment on his way wherever he had
16:56to go. He was walking.
16:57>> What time was this?
16:58>> Early.
16:59>> Early?
17:00>> Early. Early. Early.
17:03>> Okay.
17:04>> I used to get that. Usually get his
17:06station. And he usually wants his
17:07station around 5:30.
17:10No later than 6:00 is
17:12So, it had to been around 6:20 or around
17:156:25.
17:17>> Okay.
17:18>> And then, um
17:25>> [snorts]
17:25>> I got to get you now.
17:27Let's go.
17:28I took my shoes and my back up on my
17:30truck.
17:32The man was halfway to his vehicle.
17:36Like I I went with him.
17:38Turned around and ran up.
17:43Went back into his residence.
17:48>> [snorts]
17:48>> He
17:49came back.
17:54>> [snorts]
17:54>> Looking for me.
17:57>> How do you know he was looking for you?
18:00>> I seen him.
18:01When you seen him
18:03coming,
18:04>> [clears throat]
18:04>> I was going back in as he was going back
18:06in.
18:08Grabbed my Like I got all this stuff
18:10right there. Like you all know y'all
18:11seen that when y'all went in the court.
18:13All my stuff is behind my door.
18:15Really just
18:16all my drinking clothes.
18:20I
18:21can't go.
18:24Locked eyes with him.
18:26Weapon in hand.
18:28Came from around my truck.
18:30The
18:31weapon that I had on the side of the
18:33truck.
18:36Like he came around.
18:38I was already weapon in hand.
18:42He blurred.
18:43Turned the weapon.
18:45He drew the fire.
18:48Man had a weapon.
18:50I had a weapon.
18:52I put shots before.
18:58>> [snorts]
18:58>> I don't know what to
19:00I took my family's food out.
19:02>> How many How many times did you shoot?
19:06>> I don't know. I don't know.
19:09>> You what?
19:10>> I [snorts] don't know. I can't just lie.
19:14>> How many times do you think you shot?
19:16>> Probably.
19:20Probably
19:21six.
19:23I can't give you a definite.
19:26>> So when you go to shoot when you shoot
19:28the first time does
19:30what's he doing? Does he take off
19:31running? Does he go back in the
19:32apartment?
19:34>> No.
19:35He took off.
19:38He was trying to
19:40I guess the element of surprise.
19:43He was trying to I don't know. I can't
19:46say what the man was trying to do.
19:48>> Mhm.
19:51>> I just know that.
20:04I thought I had a friend but then I
20:06wasn't trying to do that.
20:09>> So when you go to shoot the guy does
20:11you shoot the first time?
20:14>> [clears throat]
20:14>> Does he take off running away from the
20:16apartment and the cars and you shoot or
20:18you continue to shoot?
20:30>> [sighs]
20:34>> Let me ask you this. Did your gun jam at
20:35any time?
20:37Or misfire?
20:46I think you can.
20:49I think there's some stuff that you're
20:51not telling me that you want to get
20:53that's really holding me back. All
20:55right, listen. Listen, I I told you
20:57there's
20:57I told you there's a lot more that I
20:59know.
21:01There's a lot I don't think you are.
21:02There's a lot more to this story that
21:04you're not telling me. All right.
21:09>> Everything. anything. I am not
21:11fabricating anything.
21:13>> When [snorts] you went to fire the first
21:14time, did your gun jam or did it
21:15misfire?
21:18>> The The first time?
21:21Of what incident? Of the Of the
21:23>> Of this incident that happened a week
21:25almost a week ago.
21:27>> I don't know.
21:28>> That involved That involved shooting
21:30this guy.
21:32>> Um No, I don't Like I said, sir, like I
21:35don't know I'm not lying to you. I'm not
21:36fabricating anything to you, sir. I'm
21:38telling you to God on this truth.
21:41It took place, sir.
21:43I don't know what stories you've got.
21:46I [snorts] don't know any of this. All I
21:47can tell you, sir, is what I
21:49encountered, what I experienced.
21:53>> But you know at that time, there's other
21:55people that are up, right?
21:56>> Up and getting up.
21:58>> Okay. I'm I'm saying there's there's
21:59other people that are up and out and
22:00about at that time.
22:02There's other people
22:04that saw what happened.
22:07Okay? They saw what happened.
22:09>> Exactly.
22:10>> And
22:11>> I'm not fabricating anything.
22:12>> We're trying to come You know, we
22:14obviously Everybody's got
22:16a story.
22:18Everybody
22:19sticks with what they saw and you were
22:20obviously the one involved in it.
22:22>> Yes.
22:22>> And you know, for the most part
22:25for the most part I think you're being
22:27truthful. There's some stuff that I that
22:28I'm just going to call out.
22:29>> I'm telling you to God on this truth,
22:31sir. I swear you can give me a polygraph
22:33or anything like that.
22:34>> Okay. So, if
22:35if if what you're saying is true, if
22:38what you're saying is true,
22:39this gentleman had a gun
22:42and
22:43you're claiming yourself that you shot
22:45him in self-defense.
22:47Why didn't you stay there and tell the
22:48police and tell your side of the story
22:50then instead of being on the run for
22:51almost a week?
22:52>> You know, I listened to my counsel.
22:55What did I tell my counsel?
22:57The very next day is what my counsel
23:00told me.
23:02Just chill out. Go do what you got to
23:04do. Let me sort through this [ __ ]
23:06That's all I've been
23:07>> Who's your counsel?
23:09>> [snorts]
23:09>> Charles Slicer.
23:10>> Okay, so Mr. Slicer told you to stay on
23:12the run?
23:13>> Told me to sit back,
23:15chill out, and let him sort through this
23:18mess I had myself into.
23:20>> Okay.
23:21>> First it was just a felony assault.
23:24The dynamics was going to change. I was
23:26understanding.
23:28Now, it's a murder cuz he no longer
23:30exists.
23:31>> Yeah, cuz the guy died.
23:33>> He died?
23:33>> Yeah, he died. He died on Saturday.
23:42>> [snorts]
23:45>> Mr. Turk, where were you standing
23:47>> Um
23:49>> when you shot the first time?
23:54>> Right by the truck.
23:55>> All right, next to the truck. On the
23:56driver side or the passenger side?
24:01>> Driver's side.
24:02>> Okay, I I
24:03>> Cuz I came from the driver.
24:06Came from the driver side.
24:08>> And then the next shot that you fired,
24:10where do you think you were at?
24:13>> Uh
24:16Probably in between
24:18uh
24:20and maybe he was in his vehicle.
24:22>> What kind of vehicle does he have?
24:24What color is it at least?
24:26>> I believe it was his brown four mister
24:28vehicle.
24:31>> Do you remember what color it was?
24:34>> Could it be gold?
24:36Tan?
24:37Teal?
24:41Teal.
24:44Teal color.
24:48>> Now, as you were firing at him,
24:49obviously he's running
24:52away from you.
24:55>> No.
24:57I don't
24:57>> Well, he's shot in the back, so
24:58obviously he's running away from you.
25:00>> You
25:01>> So, yes, he's running away from you.
25:02>> Yes.
25:03>> And you're continuing to fire at him.
25:04>> No.
25:05No. Well, yes.
25:07He he he Well, he couldn't have been
25:10running
25:11because it it got to clearly be seen it
25:13wouldn't just one gun being fired.
25:16>> There was just one gun that was fired.
25:18>> Really?
25:19>> Mhm. Yes.
25:21There are no other guns that were being
25:22fired.
25:23>> Really?
25:24>> Yes.
25:25And he's [clears throat] shot in the
25:26back,
25:27which is an indicator that he was
25:29running away.
25:30>> No, sir.
25:31>> Then how was he shot in the back?
25:33>> He was shot in the back
25:36probably from the the angle that I was
25:39standing and the angle that he was
25:40standing.
25:43That's the only thing I could
25:46I can overcome [snorts]
25:47like I said it's like
25:48>> Because you shot a car,
25:51you shot him in the back.
25:53>> Once I seen weapon in his hand
25:57That's just like if I had a weapon and I
26:00seen you with a weapon in your hand, but
26:02what if you don't have one?
26:03>> Well,
26:04I mean, here here's the thing like
26:05there's there's no weapon recovered at
26:07the scene. There's no other casings
26:09recovered at the scene. Everyone else
26:11that we interviewed said that he's
26:13walking out to the car,
26:15getting into the car when you
26:17opened fire on him.
26:19So, and we've got that from different
26:21witnesses. They're all confirming that.
26:24>> No, so to
26:25>> Also, it makes sense in that you'd been
26:27beaten multiple times by this guy who
26:29sounds like an absolute jackass, pardon
26:32my language,
26:34and you were upset and angry,
26:36understandably,
26:38and this was your opportunity.
26:40>> No, sir. My opportunity was to get my
26:43belongings and get the [ __ ] home.
26:46My new residence. That was my
26:47opportunity.
26:49I just signed my lease a few days ago.
26:53I haven't been going down there to check
26:55on my father on a regular basis because
26:57of this guy.
26:59Do you hear what I'm saying to you?
27:01Every chance that guy got to [ __ ]
27:05told me told me.
27:08Every [snorts] [ __ ] chance that guy I
27:11don't even know this guy never had no
27:14dealings with him no other tensions with
27:16him no nothing. That's why I don't
27:18understand why he did all of what he did
27:21to me and he robbed
27:24me of my I believe all of my
27:26property.
27:28>> [snorts]
27:28>> I believe that stuck a gun in my face.
27:31Personally 5 or 7 minutes he told me he
27:34would kill me he threatened me a second
27:36time and this time
27:39I'm asking you.
27:41And and I and I believe all of this is
27:43over me telling you
27:47what you can do and you cannot do with
27:49my property. I don't care what it is.
27:51What forgive you? Okay, prime example.
27:55This only $10 he tried to give me. He
27:57could have won it got his own [ __ ]
27:59trunk up.
28:02He was nitpicking constantly picking
28:05bullying me.
28:06>> Yeah, actually he was bullying you.
28:08>> [ __ ]
28:09bullying me.
28:09>> And Mr. Trick, no one no one no one
28:11no one's even questioning that cuz
28:13that's I mean we've heard that from
28:14multiple people already he was
28:16absolutely bullying you.
28:17>> I can tell you man I'm a good guy.
28:19I'm a guy like that man and all I came
28:22home trying to prove man and stay the
28:25[ __ ]
28:26out of the trail walk. I did so much
28:30I've never been out.
28:31Can you think about what we got my
28:33license insurance life insurance policy
28:37own place of residence now. I was doing
28:39so [ __ ] good for myself man. I was
28:43[snorts] doing the something I never did
28:45in 44 [ __ ] years for myself
28:49only for this gentleman to come and [ __ ]
28:52with me for what?
28:55I'm still puzzled.
28:58I did nothing wrong to this gentleman
29:01whatsoever.
29:03>> Cuz he was a bully, man.
29:04>> [snorts]
29:04>> I did nothing wrong to
29:07this man.
29:08Put a pistol to my face, back me in the
29:10mouth with it.
29:12Put it to my face with violence and the
29:14man my cousin who was in the vehicle
29:16with me will verify. My little brother
29:19came and the FBI has seen everything. My
29:23mouth busted open. The man still got the
29:26[ __ ] gun in my face.
29:28>> [snorts]
29:28>> And I got mad and I told him to shoot me
29:32if it mean that much to you. You got to
29:34do all this over my [ __ ] man.
29:38Really?
29:39You're doing all this to me for my [ __ ]
29:42The same $10 you could have went and
29:44bought your own problem. Drank alcohol.
29:46He [snorts] was bullying me.
29:49Put me in a full nelson. He was
29:51aggressive, obnoxious.
29:53I took [snorts]
29:55Well, to this, let's imagine you pulling
29:57up to your residence.
30:00>> [clears throat]
30:03>> We said we we get to your man over in,
30:05you know, taking your stuff, trying to
30:07pay him, you know, pay back. Is that for
30:09all this?
30:11>> I wasn't even mad about that.
30:15>> What is that?
30:15>> This [ __ ]
30:16transpired so fast.
30:18>> Okay.
30:20>> He had sent his man to do all the work
30:22he wanted to do from the time my vehicle
30:25pulled up.
30:27>> Okay.
30:28All right. All right. April 22nd.
30:31Th- This guy was a jerk, man. I get I
30:33get it.
30:34The The problem is that going back to
30:35the 18th Here we are.
30:38All right. Here we're talking. Yeah. All
30:39right. So, but if we go fast forward to
30:42the 18th, all right, which was last
30:44week,
30:45we got
30:46you shooting at him standing in the
30:48road.
30:49Then we got your additional casings
30:52going down the sidewalk as you're going
30:54down towards dinner, continuing to
30:56shoot, and then we've got
30:58a windshield that's shot out, and we've
31:01got him shot in the back.
31:03I mean, to you're you're pursuing after
31:05him. You're you're you're alleging
31:07you're in fear for your life.
31:08>> Dude, I'm telling you the guy
31:09>> But you're pursuing him.
31:10>> For you to tell me that there was not a
31:14gun on the scene. Where is the gun?
31:19>> I don't think there was one.
31:21>> Yes, it was, sir.
31:22>> Where was the gun that you used at?
31:24>> The gun that I used at all It was on the
31:26scene. It should have been on the scene.
31:27>> Where at?
31:28>> It should have been right beside his
31:29[ __ ] vehicle.
31:31See what I'm saying?
31:32>> Did you drop it after you shot him?
31:34>> Yeah.
31:35I mean, I I panicked when I seen that
31:37gun in that man's hand.
31:40I had the same [ __ ] gun. He snatched
31:43it out of my hand when he shot me in the
31:44arm.
31:45>> Okay.
31:45>> Had a clip hanging out there long.
31:49I saw him move.
31:52Listen,
31:53the man had a weapon in hand when he
31:57came back out for a second.
31:59>> Okay, so after the shooting, where did
32:01you go? Did you go back in your
32:02apartment?
32:04>> Yes. Yes, I did. I did.
32:07>> Then did you go out the back door out
32:09the front door when you left before
32:10>> No, actually.
32:12No, I stayed I stayed there.
32:16I was trying to find my cell phone.
32:19I couldn't find my cell phone.
32:22>> Were you inside the apartment?
32:23>> Keys. My house keys were still in my
32:25door. It was wide open. I ran out of
32:27there.
32:28I was in fear for my life.
32:30>> Did you run out the front door?
32:32>> I ran out the door.
32:33>> Like Sewer Street side?
32:34>> Yeah, Sewer Street side. I ran. Yeah, I
32:37ran towards the park, the 203rd side.
32:39Yes.
32:40>> And where did you go from there?
32:42>> Uh
32:43I ran When I left there, I went to my
32:45mom's house first.
32:46>> Yeah.
32:47>> I let my mom know
32:49what took place.
32:50She told me, "Look, running ain't going
32:52to make it better." I said, "No, I'm not
32:54running."
32:55I said, "I need an attorney."
32:57And I contacted Tommy, my counsel. My
32:59counsel been telling me since the
33:02incident,
33:03"Sit back.
33:05Chill.
33:07She what I got into.
33:09Swooping this [ __ ] Right now it's still
33:11preliminary as far as the dynamics.
33:13[ __ ] changed.
33:16>> So, what did you do with the gun?
33:18>> The gun wasn't there.
33:20>> No, I know.
33:20>> That's what I'm trying to tell you, man.
33:22That's how I know it's some [ __ ]
33:23about the gun that was used should still
33:26been on the scene. And the gun that he
33:28had should still be on his person, man.
33:30>> I'll tell you right now, there's no guns
33:31on scene.
33:32>> That's what I'm trying to tell you.
33:33That's what I'm saying.
33:33>> Listen, listen. Officers were there
33:35pretty quickly after the shooting came
33:37out. Okay?
33:39There's eyewitnesses, multiple
33:41eyewitnesses that watched this whole
33:43thing transpire, and any none of them
33:45not a one of them said this dude ran out
33:47and got the gun and took it into this
33:48apartment, or you dropped the gun. No,
33:52they're saying
33:53he is running away, you shot him, you
33:55ran back into your apartment, then the
33:57police showed up. And then obviously,
33:59you know, SWAT stand off happened and
34:01everything when you weren't even in
34:02there.
34:03And you were at your mom's house, is
34:04that what you said? Yeah.
34:07So,
34:08you didn't drop the gun.
34:10>> Sir, the gun should have still been on
34:12the scene. I'm telling you the gun is
34:15still there, sir.
34:16The gun should have still
34:18>> Where do you Okay, so let me ask you
34:19this. Where So, since this, okay, you
34:21haven't been at your mom's house since
34:23then?
34:23>> No.
34:24>> Where Where have you been at?
34:26>> I was I was I was there last night. I
34:28talked to my sister probably around I
34:30ain't got my phone, probably around
34:33>> Is it that blue phone that was in there?
34:35>> Yeah, I was probably around uh
34:38Here this morning, she was getting up
34:39for work.
34:40>> Mhm.
34:41>> I was on the man, just wandering around.
34:44You know, this really want to get this
34:46[ __ ] behind me. I
34:48I haven't had a good night's rest since
34:49this [ __ ]
34:50>> I bet. I bet you've been on the run. All
34:52this stuff's getting to your head, I can
34:53tell.
34:53>> But
34:55like I want to get this behind me.
34:58>> Where is your truck at?
35:00>> Stolen. My mom's and told it to my mom.
35:04She
35:04>> Okay.
35:05What kind of gun did you have?
35:07>> Uh
35:14All right.
35:14>> Nine.
35:15>> Is it a nine?
35:16Would you even know what kind it was?
35:20>> I don't know what brand or brand name or
35:22anything like that.
35:22>> Okay.
35:23All right. So, this is So, what time did
35:25you get to your sister's this morning?
35:26Have you been staying at your sister's?
35:28>> No, this is the first night I ever
35:29stayed at my sister's.
35:30>> Is it the last So, you were there last
35:31night?
35:31>> Last night.
35:32>> What time?
35:33>> This morning, actually around
35:35>> It was this morning?
35:36>> Yeah, around
35:36>> Okay.
35:38>> Uh
35:39She had to be working at 5:00, so it was
35:41about 3:30, 4:00 like that.
35:42>> Okay, so
35:43Okay.
35:44And so, she was sleeping
35:47Did you go to sleep on the couch or in
35:49the bedroom?
35:50>> On the couch.
35:50>> You don't think I'll sleep right there
35:52on the floor?
35:52>> On the sofa for a bit.
35:54>> All right.
35:55>> And then the way I woke up this morning
35:57to this
35:57>> It is the
35:59>> And when I woke up, I got up from my
36:00hurting.
36:02I got up from my hurting.
36:03I would really appreciate some
36:05>> So, what about the So, the gun that was
36:07found in the couch.
36:10Straight up, is that the gun?
36:12No. No. Listen.
36:14>> No, sir.
36:14>> Be straight with me.
36:15>> No, sir.
36:16>> The gun that was in the couch
36:17>> should have still been on the scene,
36:19sir.
36:20>> You know what I'm saying?
36:22So, what was the deal with the gun in
36:23the couch?
36:24>> I don't know nothing about the gun in
36:25the couch.
36:28>> Well, just straight with me. That would
36:29be it.
36:30>> respectful.
36:31>> Sir, I'm telling you you got to go DNA
36:33the gun, fingerprint me. I don't know
36:34nothing about no gun or no drugs.
36:36>> okay, so
36:37if your DNA is not on that gun, do you
36:39mind if we collect your DNA to compare
36:41it?
36:42So, we'll we'll do we'll do that in a
36:44little bit, okay? The cell phone, that's
36:46your cell phone, the blue one that was
36:47right there on the little table, okay?
36:49What What's the
36:50Which phone number is that?
36:53>> Um
36:55Actually, that was my sister's phone.
36:57>> That's your sister's phone?
36:58>> Mhm.
36:59>> She's saying it's not her phone.
37:01>> The The phone that I got, that's my big
37:03sister's phone. That's the phone I've
37:05been using the two
37:06>> What number is that?
37:08>> Um
37:11Is it a
37:12Um
37:18937937
37:19>> 937
37:20Do you know the passcode on that phone?
37:23>> Um
37:24Yeah.
37:25>> What's the passcode?
37:26>> Um
37:3100
37:320737
37:36>> And that's your sister's phone?
37:37>> Mhm.
37:37>> Okay.
37:39What's What's your sister's name?
37:45All right. Do you know where she stays
37:46at?
37:47>> In Mini Thicket.
37:48>> Any place up there?
37:52All right.
37:54All right.
37:56I'm like I said, dude, these are the DNA
37:57swabs, okay? So, anything that was on
37:59that gun, okay, on that same the gun and
38:02on the same these swabs just to compare,
38:05okay? Have you ever done these before?
38:07>> No.
38:07>> Okay. Basically, I'm going to I'll open
38:09it up. I'll have you grab it. Just
38:11swab the inside of your cheeks and
38:12everything really good, okay? And then
38:14we'll put them right back in your mouth,
38:16okay?
38:18You don't grab both of them.
38:20You swab the both inside of your cheeks
38:21real well.
38:27And we'll put them right back in there.
38:29All right. Thank you, sir.
38:31All right.
38:34Okay.
38:35Now, let's uh step out for a minute.
38:37Give us just a minute. Let me ask you a
38:38straight question. You need anything
38:39right now?
38:40>> No, sir.
38:41>> your pass key?
38:41>> I had a cigarette.
38:42>> Huh? Uh give us just a minute on that,
38:44okay?
38:56All right, Mr. Drake.
38:58I got just a couple of follow-up
38:59questions with you, all right, buddy?
39:01>> Yes, sir.
39:04>> Have you been staying at your sister's
39:06house before this at all?
39:08>> No.
39:09>> So, you you're not living with your
39:10sister at all. Where do you live? Where
39:11do you live at this time? You literally
39:13went over there at 4:00, 3:30, 4:00 this
39:16morning, and that's it.
39:16>> I called her.
39:17>> Okay. But, I'm just saying, you like you
39:19don't have any clothes there, you don't
39:20get mail there, nothing, right? Okay.
39:23Were you by yourself when you went over
39:25there?
39:26>> Huh?
39:26>> Were you by yourself when you went over
39:27there, or did your girlfriend go over
39:28there?
39:29>> Well, my cousin dropped me off over
39:31there.
39:32>> What's your cut Is this the same cousin
39:33that was with you during
39:35>> the the the accident?
39:36>> What's your cousin's name?
39:39What is it?
39:45Yeah.
39:46And they dropped you off over on
39:47Redwood.
39:49Did Was there anybody else with you?
39:50>> No. No, he he dropped me. I didn't want
39:52him to know where I was going.
39:54So, he dropped me off at What's that on
39:56B Gear Drive in Redwood?
39:58>> Okay. Okay, so I can talk block up and
40:00he walked up.
40:01>> want him to know where I was going.
40:02>> Okay. And you were by yourself?
40:04>> Mhm.
40:04>> Okay. Tawana wasn't with you?
40:06>> No. When I got When I got When I got to
40:09my sister's this morning,
40:10>> Mhm.
40:11>> [clears throat]
40:11>> I had called her cuz she had called me
40:13yesterday,
40:14and uh
40:16told me that
40:17you know,
40:18the US Marshals was looking for you.
40:21And all that [ __ ] I ain't running
40:22from nobody. I'm just doing what my
40:24counselor told me to do.
40:26Like right now, I ain't supposed to be
40:27doing this, but I did nothing wrong.
40:30I don't feel I've done anything wrong.
40:33Okay. All right.
40:34>> But again, just to confirm, when you got
40:36to your sister's house this morning,
40:38you were by yourself,
40:39>> Mhm.
40:40>> and you have not seen your girlfriend.
40:42>> No, I don't know.
40:43I seen her this morning.
40:45>> When did Where did you see her at?
40:47>> Uh she came to my sister's.
40:49>> She came over to Redwood?
40:50>> Mhm.
40:51>> When you got there this morning?
40:52>> No, actually, when when y'all got the
40:55call, when y'all was at her house this
40:57morning,
40:57>> Mhm.
40:58>> she came and seen me. She brought me
41:00some cigarettes. Brought me a pack of
41:02cigarettes.
41:03And
41:04it was so crazy, it was so coincidental
41:06because
41:07same [snorts] time she bring me the
41:09cigarettes, she dropped the grandbaby
41:11off at school.
41:13Y'all was calling.
41:15>> Okay.
41:16So, did she ever come inside the house
41:17or did she just drop off the cigarettes
41:19to you?
41:20>> But she came in for a little second.
41:21>> Okay.
41:27>> Nothing.
41:27>> When did that happen? Anything else can
41:29you tell us, Mr. Trigg?
41:31>> No, sir.
41:33>> Okay.
41:33>> All right.
41:35>> When was the last Okay, when was the
41:36last time you talked to Mr. Spicer?
41:39>> Um
41:42She said
41:44She said today, Monday.
41:45I mean, Monday
41:46>> So, you spoke to her today, Wednesday,
41:47is that
41:48>> Monday. Mhm. Monday. He had doctor court
41:51yesterday.
41:52So, I was going to contact him again
41:54today.
41:55Cuz I I just like I said, I just want to
41:57get this behind me, man. But, you know,
42:00whatever come out of this, man, I just
42:02want it behind me.
42:03>> Okay.
42:04>> I did nothing wrong, man. I
42:07I swear I never met anybody that did
42:09that.
42:10>> Okay.
42:13>> You can't just change
42:15[ __ ] toilet and throw it in the
42:18[ __ ] trash and you study grab a
42:20[ __ ] book.
42:23>> All right, Mr. Trigg, is there a car I
42:24can drive in? I'll be right back in.
42:28>> I'll sit.
42:29>> That's the whole thing.
42:31>> We're going to be like hold on, it's
42:32right.
42:39All right, Mr. Trigg, I'm going to stand
42:41up for a little bit.
42:43>> Okay.
42:46>> Yeah, go ahead, man. You can go ahead
42:47and finish it. Go ahead.
42:56Good?
43:06>> Walk down that hallway.
43:08Back and forth.
43:09>> All right, Mr. Trigg, I got your wallet
43:11stuff.
43:12Feel them up.
43:14>> Have your way with me.
43:24>> Following the interrogation, Johnny Lee
43:26Trigg Jr. was charged with murder in the
43:28shooting of 29-year-old Myquon Taylor.
43:32When the case went to [music] trial in
43:33October 2022,
43:35Trigg argued that he had acted in
43:37self-defense.
43:38He claimed Taylor pointed a gun at him,
43:41but the [music] weapon failed to fire.
43:43However, Trigg also admitted that Taylor
43:45was running away when he shot him.
43:48Because of this, the judge ruled that
43:50there wasn't enough evidence to support
43:51[music] a self-defense claim and refused
43:54to give the jury instructions on that
43:56defense.
43:57The jury found Trigg guilty of murder
43:59and felonious assault. The judge also
44:02[music] found him guilty of illegally
44:04possessing a firearm because of his
44:06previous criminal record.
44:08On October 31st, 2022,
44:11Trigg was sentenced to 21 years to life
44:14[music] in prison with an additional
44:161,220
44:17days for violating parole from [music]
44:20an earlier conviction.
44:22Trigg appealed the decision arguing that
44:24his statements to detectives [music]
44:26should not have been used against him
44:28and that the jury should have been
44:30allowed to consider [music]
44:31self-defense.
44:32But in October 2023,
44:35the appeals court rejected both
44:37arguments [music]
44:37and upheld his convictions.
44:39Trigg continued fighting his conviction,
44:41[music]
44:42but another appeal was denied in
44:44February 2026.
44:46As of the latest available case records
44:49from mid-2026, [music]
44:51Trigg remained incarcerated at London
44:53Correctional Institution in Ohio while
44:56continuing to challenge his conviction
44:58in federal court.
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