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0:00I hope that you wouldn't tell me that we
0:02put him out there because we wanted him
0:03to die. I didn't want you. I was hoping
0:05that you're not that person. I hope that
0:07people like that aren't that very many
0:09of them in this city is what I hope.
0:11>> Well, there's not.
0:14>> I know that there's some people like
0:15that, but I hope there's not enough that
0:17that I'm meeting one.
0:19I hope that you would provide some sort
0:21of an explanation as to why we're all in
0:23this situation talking about this, why
0:25Geneva is in this situation. Am I the
0:29last one left? H
0:31>> Am I the last one left?
0:34>> You tell me who was there. Who do I need
0:35to go? Who do I need to go talk to?
0:39>> What do I need to find out?
0:43>> Jacob,
0:45I don't even know.
0:46>> Jacob's going to lie like you.
0:48>> Of course he's going to lie. Not like
0:51that.
0:54>> All right.
0:55>> You tell me that. You tell me that you
0:57don't know anything about this FBI case.
0:59>> I swear to God.
1:00>> You don't know nothing about it. Then
1:02you're like, "Oh, I was on bond for a
1:03federal case, so maybe it's
1:04>> that's not it. Is that a federal case?"
1:06>> Apparently,
1:08>> but it just said weapon federal federal
1:10weapon choice.
1:12>> It says offense weapons weapon
1:16trafficking.
1:17It says no use narcotics, sex
1:19trafficking with a child, dating or
1:22>> no bond is what it says. special agent
1:26preview.
1:29>> We have to wait on this or until he gets
1:33back at you.
1:36>> Okay.
1:39>> So,
1:42yeah, he's not going to Jacob is going
1:44to lie. I haven't talked to Jacob.
1:47>> What about the hate girl?
1:48>> H What about hate girl?
1:50>> We'll talk. You say she doesn't even
1:51exist. So, why do I even need to talk to
1:53her? Li because she cuz obviously Ma
1:56didn't know God
1:58>> obviously Ma didn't know
1:59>> but you lie but you say she don't even
2:00exist. Hey girl don't even exist.
2:02>> She don't exist in my cuz I don't even
2:04know who it is.
2:05>> You said there was two different girls,
2:06right?
2:06>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
2:07>> So the girl that's not Geneva,
2:09>> huh?
2:10>> So maybe she's the girl that's not
2:11Geneva. Maybe that would make sense cuz
2:13you know who Geneva is.
2:15>> Yeah.
2:16>> I think you're a smart guy doing it.
2:18>> What I did say is I don't know a girl by
2:20that name. If I see a picture, maybe I
2:22do know her.
2:24>> Was it two girls?
2:24>> Asking two different girls. Not at the
2:27same time. One earlier.
2:31>> You said two girls
2:32>> or she stays there.
2:34>> Okay. So then there's another girl.
2:35>> Yeah.
2:36>> Okay. Maybe that's what we're talking
2:37about.
2:37>> Maybe
2:38>> if there was three, maybe it' be one of
2:40those two, but
2:41>> I don't know her. It was a different
2:42girl other than that day the first time
2:43I came.
2:44>> There's another one the third time I
2:46came.
2:49But
2:49>> so I'm guessing that one was for the
2:52white guy who called. So
2:52>> you're saying what you're like, "What
2:53have I been accused of? What I've been
2:54accused
2:56>> right now?" You know, I think probably
2:58had you if you were truthful, this
3:00conversation would have been a 30-minute
3:01long conversation where you would have
3:02said, "Yeah, I was there. Yeah, I went
3:04with this fool. Yeah, he did what he
3:06did, but at least I at least you were
3:08with him. I know you were with him." And
3:09you won't even admit to that.
3:11>> You were with
3:14>> Yeah, we're talking about too white
3:15boys.
3:16>> No, I'm talking about the white boy with
3:17the truck. The
3:19The guy Gabriel Ler.
3:21>> I didn't see his truck.
3:23>> We're talking about the white boy that
3:25got Gabriel and got him out of
3:26>> Okay.
3:29>> Do you know DNA works?
3:30>> Ask me for um Ford.
3:33>> Yes.
3:34>> Yeah.
3:36>> Did you go in that guy's that guy's
3:38truck?
3:38>> I never s I never served him.
3:42>> Do you know how DNA works?
3:44>> Yep.
3:45You know, if you touch something, your
3:47DNA gets on it.
3:50>> Yep.
3:51>> So, like we get your DNA all over that
3:53far.
3:54>> Does it make sense?
3:56>> You try touch a truck handler.
4:00>> Your DNA is on it.
4:03And you know,
4:04>> you know what still stays there even
4:05when somebody
4:06>> go outside and rub up on it. It's on it,
4:10right? Yeah.
4:11>> On the inside door handle. You open it,
4:14it's on. On the armrest, it's on. On the
4:18dashboard, it's on. On the seat, it's
4:21on.
4:24You think you've ever been anywhere
4:26where you didn't lose a hair?
4:28>> What?
4:29>> No. You leave today, where will be your
4:32hair fibers are going to be in that
4:34chair. They're going to be around the
4:35chair. They're going to be there. All
4:36right.
4:36>> His won't cuz you don't have any hair.
4:38>> Oh, much.
4:40>> I mean, mine will.
4:42They're everywhere.
4:43>> Mhm.
4:45It's not like we're looking in a
4:48football stadium for we're looking
4:49inside the front seat of a car, a truck,
4:54and you're saying, "I've never been in
4:56there. I know you've been in there."
4:57Geneva says you've been in there. He
4:59says you've been there.
5:01Video of you and him at Carriage House
5:03say you've been there.
5:08And so the only thing left was not going
5:09to be at the end of the day, oh, I just
5:11didn't know what was going on. Um, he's
5:13innocent. This whole thing, I didn't
5:14know what I didn't know what was about
5:16to play out. It's going to be I knew
5:18exactly what the heck was going on.
5:21I knew what we were doing. I knew what
5:23he was doing. Maybe he's right. And he
5:26asked me and I'm the one that asked him
5:28to do it so that I could get him some
5:29work.
5:31>> Do a soler.
5:33>> You need some work.
5:34>> You need some work. We need a truck.
5:40Did you see you you laid out the
5:42>> type of thing
5:42>> you laid out this
5:45>> Mr. L you laid out this predicament that
5:48I see is very real. Geneva's got a guy
5:50at her house that Jacob
5:52>> helped create the problem.
5:54>> If he goes unresponsive at her house,
5:56she's got a big problem.
5:57>> Situation gets worse, right?
6:00>> White dude shows up with a truck. He's
6:02got a truck. We've got a problem. He
6:04wants work.
6:06We got a problem.
6:07>> You can do something you do all the
6:08time.
6:09>> Facilitate.
6:10>> You help us. I help you help us. We help
6:12you.
6:14>> And had it had somebody found him that
6:16night, had somebody called an ambulance,
6:18had he got up and gone to the hotel,
6:20none of us are even talking.
6:23>> We don't even need to. The helicopter
6:26doesn't even come out. The SWAT team's
6:28not even there.
6:30It's unfortunate. Or maybe it's on
6:32purpose.
6:35Maybe it's an unfortunate mistake and
6:37maybe it's something that happened on
6:39purpose.
6:43One person in this room can tell us that
6:46answer. Otherwise, we're left
6:48>> on purpose.
6:48>> Otherwise, we are left to assume that it
6:50was because if it wasn't, why the heck
6:52wouldn't you say?
6:53>> Maybe some people got handed a bad set
6:55of cards and they got to fix it. If it
6:59was unfortunate, why the heck would you
7:01not tell us that?
7:03>> If it was on purpose, I understand every
7:05reason why you would not tell us that.
7:10>> But that brings to my question earlier.
7:12Maybe it would have been a quicker
7:14interview. What's your sense of judgment
7:16say? What kind of What do you think?
7:19>> My sense of judgment says that you're
7:21sitting there thinking if I tell them I
7:23was with them, I'm in trouble.
7:27That's my sense of judgment. Your sense
7:29of jud My sense of judgment says you're
7:31sitting there thinking I'm in trouble.
7:35Whether I tell him it was an accident or
7:36I tell him it was on purpose, I'm not. I
7:38can't help myself here. That's my sense
7:40of judgment about me. And my other sense
7:42of judgment about you is you're used to
7:44talking your way through things.
7:46>> No, hold on. That's not That's not the
7:47kind of sense of judgment I wanted you
7:48to do. It was the um on
7:52>> What's your sense?
7:52>> What do you think?
7:58How big of a role could I have played?
8:03>> Could have been anything from you were
8:05actually there.
8:06>> What kind of person think I am to be? Do
8:08you think it was this or this?
8:10>> If I thought you felt bad, if I if it
8:14was this over here, I think you would
8:16have told me. Why wouldn't you?
8:21>> Cuz you were first of judgment. because
8:23you think you're going to get in trouble
8:24either way.
8:26>> That's that's kind of like
8:29>> I'll talk with anybody.
8:30>> But let me ask you this.
8:33>> If you did this, if you were just there,
8:37you might get in trouble. I'd be lying
8:39to you if I said you wouldn't. I'd be
8:40lying to you if I said, "Look, if you
8:41tell me you do this, I have no problem
8:43with that." No. Because if you did this,
8:46you're still part of leaving an injured
8:48man there. But if you did this over
8:50here,
8:52you killed the man on purpose.
8:54>> Exactly.
8:54>> And there's going to be a lot of people
8:56that hear this case, that hear these
8:57facts, that read my report,
9:00that read about our interview,
9:03>> and they're going to make judgments
9:04about it. And everything
9:08everything important is going to be
9:09based on those judgments.
9:12And that's the reason that the law gives
9:14these huge areas for interpretation
9:17because sometimes it's this, sometimes
9:19it's this.
9:26Sometimes people steal things because
9:29they have a family to provide for and
9:32they've got to put food on the table and
9:33they got to pay electric bills. And
9:35sometimes people steal things because
9:37they like to see people in fear and they
9:39like to hurt people and they like to
9:40take their stuff. Both of those things
9:42are are stealing, right?
9:46>> But you make judgments. I make
9:48judgments. We all Everybody makes
9:50judgments. But this person over here,
9:54>> we can all say we I would do the same I
9:56would do the same thing to provide for
9:58my family, my loved ones.
10:00>> I don't know that I could I don't know
10:01that I could ever put myself over here
10:03>> just to cause someone fear
10:05>> for no reason at all.
10:07>> It's just
10:08>> So you're right. So you're right.
10:11Just because you say it's this doesn't
10:13mean there's nothing
10:16there's nothing to answer for. There's
10:18always accountability.
10:20But what I'm telling you is that who
10:25if it is this over here most people
10:28would say this person could at least
10:30explain the reason I stole was for my
10:33family
10:34>> was for my kids for my electric
10:38>> for because we all have those same
10:40burdens. Mhm.
10:41>> We all we relate to each other on those
10:43terms. You have to eat. I have to eat.
10:45We all have to eat. We all have to have
10:46a shelter over our head.
10:48>> We all have to take care of our kids. We
10:50have to take care of our, you know, of
10:52our loved ones.
10:54>> Sometimes that's our brothers or sisters
10:56or grandparents or whatever. We all have
10:58to do that. So, we all understand that.
11:00So, this person, yeah, they both stole,
11:02maybe they both stole the same thing,
11:04but this person
11:07I can understand. this person acting on
11:11>> the person that walks up to an old lady
11:12and smacks her over the head, let her
11:14purse off her arm, the mom just to cause
11:16her fear and terror. Can you understand
11:19that person? That's not okay. There I
11:22believe all of our sense of honor goes
11:25against that.
11:26>> I believe yours does too.
11:27>> Exactly. That's what I meant by your
11:29sense of judgment.
11:30>> Okay.
11:30>> Your sense of judgment won't lean that
11:32way. I don't think it'll lean that way.
11:35>> Ultimately, it's not us to judge though.
11:37No, just I just by the end of the day I
11:40have to
11:42somebody's going to apologize this
11:44>> somebody is going 100%. So, let me get a
11:48regular person who actually been doing
11:51this for a minute to give six on how he
11:57feels about the situation
11:59and
12:03and not just my own in my head which you
12:06know won't go this way
12:10to the bad to this evil son. Well, the
12:13problem becomes is that if you don't
12:15tell us the truth of why something
12:17happened or why something didn't happen
12:18is it's hard to judge anyone what their
12:22actions are. Does that make sense?
12:23Because if you've if you cloud it in a
12:25bunch of lies,
12:27how can you ever distinguish these two?
12:31Does that make sense?
12:33Let me tell you the the truth about a
12:35person over here.
12:36They say things and they do things
12:40for their own survival.
12:42And when this person is trapped and
12:44knows
12:46there's no other way out of this, you
12:48know what they're going to say? They're
12:50going to say, "I was this guy. That's
12:52why I did. I was this guy." But you know
12:55what? But that one, who's going to
12:57believe that?
12:58>> You know what this guy's going to say
13:00from the beginning?
13:00>> I don't think that makes sense.
13:02>> Think about it. Let's use this scenario.
13:05your DNA. You're telling me never never
13:09even know. Never true.
13:11You know what? I think it's going to
13:13show that you were.
13:16>> And and if it show, just hear me out.
13:18And if it shows that and you come back
13:21now with, "Oh, wait. There's an
13:23explanation for it's too late. True.
13:27>> You wouldn't buy. I wouldn't either. No
13:29one would
13:31>> because you lied, right? Only can prove
13:32it. It's like if it's like you got you
13:36got your brother. Do you have any other
13:36brother? That'll be anybody else?
13:40>> It's my aunt. Okay.
13:42>> Is he LB or older?
13:44>> He's younger.
13:45>> Say took something from
13:49you a couple months younger.
13:50>> Let's say he took something from him.
13:51>> Okay.
13:52>> Took some money out of place shades.
13:54Play some.
13:56You see my money? See my I'm not saying
13:59he would. I don't know. Okay. I'm just
14:02>> You ask him, "You seen this stuff?" He's
14:04like, "Wow, I haven't seen him. He knows
14:07what he did."
14:09>> Mhm.
14:09>> Okay. But he denies he did. And you go
14:14in his car and you lift up the console
14:18in your mind, your wallet's right there.
14:20And you're like, "What? What is this?"
14:22And he's like, "Does it make him this
14:24guy?" Well,
14:26there
14:27>> you say, "What is this?" And he says,
14:29"Oh, man." like I needed I needed to I
14:32needed to turn on I needed some food. I
14:34need some whatever. You're like no
14:35because if that was true you would have
14:37told me from the beginning.
14:39>> You just ask for you know I would have
14:41understood that.
14:44>> Was you loaning your brother some money?
14:46>> So at this point you're like at this
14:47point you're like no that ain't that
14:49ain't true. Now you're just trying to
14:51tell me that because you're saying
14:53you're this guy now because this is
14:54where you you feel like you should be.
14:57But that's not you.
14:59You know what I mean?
15:00>> Trying to play the sympathy card when
15:01you fight.
15:02>> You're not going to play that. I'm not
15:03either.
15:06>> And neither will the people that listen
15:07to this this case. Neither will the
15:09people that make judgments in this case.
15:14If all it was was you at the wrong place
15:15at the wrong time,
15:18you would say that now. You wouldn't
15:20wait until your DNA is inside the truck
15:22and on big pants.
15:26He wouldn't wait that long because by
15:28then the time for explaining is come and
15:30gone. There's no explanation needed at
15:33that point. The only explanation is he
15:35was afforded an opportunity to explain
15:37it
15:39and offer so there must not be.
15:48And that doesn't go to say that if if LB
15:50took your money and you found out that
15:52it was from food or for whatever,
15:54there's consequences for that. Maybe a
15:56lack of trust. Maybe, you know what I
15:59mean? But if you found out he took it
16:00and lied to you about it and didn't
16:02offer an explanation, and now the only
16:04reason he's explaining himself is cuz
16:05you caught him in it,
16:08that that's a much deeper cut to that
16:12trust, into that relationship. You know
16:14what I mean?
16:15>> You can't come out of that as easy as
16:17this. It's two different things. It's
16:19the same act.
16:23But it's in your own words, judgment is
16:26what makes those things difficult.
16:30It's how we perceive it. It's how we
16:32think about it. It's how our honor code
16:37works. It's how we relate to each other.
16:39It's how we live with each other.
16:47If there is no time for explaining
16:51after it's
16:53already too late,
16:56it's come and gone and that opportunity
16:58is no longer.
17:01And at that point it becomes it must
17:03have been
17:05for some reason so bad
17:08that there was no that he would didn't
17:11want to give that explanation
17:16>> or we would have just said it was a
17:20freaking accident.
17:23Didn't know what to do in a bad freaking
17:26spot.
17:29I'm just trying to help my friends.
17:32Every one of us would help our friends.
17:36None of us want to see our friends get
17:38in trouble. None of us want to see our
17:40friends
17:42go through hurt.
17:45>> All of us will help our friends.
17:49But that doesn't mean that everything we
17:51would do to help our friends is without
17:53cost.
17:56But it does mean that most people will
17:57understand that.
18:01You would understand.
18:05I would.
18:07I told you before, if I was in that
18:10dude's truck that night and we were
18:13there,
18:14even if I didn't like what we were
18:16doing, I would rather get out, help him
18:19do what he was doing, than be sitting
18:21there if the cops rolled up or if
18:23somebody else rolled up and all of a
18:25sudden it looks a lot worse than it was.
18:28I think I would rather get out and say,
18:29"Let's get this done. Let's go. What the
18:31hell are you doing?"
18:34I've been with friends before when I
18:35said, "What the hell are you doing?
18:39That wasn't my decision. That was their
18:41decision. They put me in that decision.
18:43They put me
18:44>> agree to that.
18:45>> Do I?
18:46>> Yeah, I know.
18:47>> People don't agree to that.
18:50>> Situations.
18:51>> This wasn't something I chose, but here
18:52I am and now I've got to do something.
19:00I mean, I told you that earlier. That's
19:02what I would have done.
19:11You never know when you're you never
19:12know until you're there.
19:14>> Mhm.
19:16>> But there's a difference
19:19in this and it in that situation.
19:21There's a big difference between you and
19:23a big difference between that other guy.
19:26He went there knowing that was going to
19:27happen. You went there
19:32and got caught in that situation. And
19:34it's either we sit here,
19:37we sit here and screw around until
19:39somebody comes by or we do what we got
19:41to do the hell out of here
19:46that this dude maybe some some maybe
19:48somebody comes by and helps this dude
19:50out and maybe not. But I didn't choose
19:53this. I didn't do this that he wrote.
20:05Judgment is everything.
20:08And it goes all the way from over here
20:10and all the way over here.
20:18It's never black and
20:25Rob you.
20:28We think through things
20:35more than most people.
20:39>> You're a smart guy.
20:44>> I think you see things the way that a
20:46lot of people don't.
20:51And I think that you would have helped
20:52me through that.
20:57>> You're a lot smarter than that.
21:00>> And I think that if
21:02I don't know how many people in
21:03Jamaica's life would have helped her,
21:05Jacob should have. Jacob put her in that
21:08situation.
21:10And Joshua is going to help his brother.
21:12He gonna help her
21:15the brothers. And that's understandable.
21:21It's not right, but it's understanding.
21:25If you're a very methodical person, I
21:27think you would have
21:29>> you analyze everything.
21:34The deal is if the explanation's here,
21:38the only time
21:40for explaining is now. If the
21:43explanation is here,
21:47maybe it just doesn't even need
21:48explaining because it's gonna it all
21:50comes out of the wash at the end and
21:52then you leave it up to other people's
21:53judgment to figure it out.
22:02I think this is a lot more about Geneva
22:04than it is about.
22:07Gabriel's a grown man that made makes
22:09his own decision. He picks his own
22:11fights. It's in his own situations.
22:16I don't believe Geneva put herself
22:19in those situations
22:21by her own choosing.
22:23I seriously doubt she wanted that to her
22:26house all day. I'm sure that if she
22:29could have got out of that situation
22:30when she would have gone to
22:34I think you would too. I would.
22:40>> What was that? If you were in a
22:42situation like Geneva on Saturday where
22:43you got this dude over at your house
22:45after Jake can do what you do. I mean,
22:47what what is she gonna do? I mean, what
22:49could she possibly?
22:50>> You say to yourself, you call the
22:52ambulance and you end up with cops over
22:55there poking around asking question. I
22:57mean, you either do that
23:00or you wait or you wait and if he goes
23:03unresponsive, then you got a huge
23:05problem on
23:06>> someone had to think through this.
23:08>> Exactly. this board. You take him
23:11somewhere. Someone finds him. Fine.
23:13Whatever.
23:15We didn't choose this.
23:18We do what we can. This is the best plan
23:20we've got.
23:21>> That white boy didn't think of this.
23:25>> You know what I'm saying?
23:26>> You and I both know that. Geneva didn't
23:29think of this.
23:34>> What's she going to do if she wakes up
23:35Sunday morning, he's there and he's not
23:37responsive? She going to freak you out.
23:39>> Then what do we do?
23:41>> Things are a lot worse now.
23:44>> You know what?
23:46>> What?
23:46>> That's
23:48>> Yeah.
23:52Someone that can actually think through
23:54the problem, do their best to fix the
23:56problem.
24:00>> Make sense?
24:02>> But the time for explaining
24:04is now. It's not when DNA comes back.
24:10And all that DNA is going to do is
24:12confirm what Gene was already told us.
24:14>> Where is this white boy?
24:16>> What up?
24:16>> Where is this white boy?
24:17>> Where is it?
24:19>> You go on.
24:21We don't get traffic.
24:26And all that DNA is going to do is prove
24:28that she's not a liar about this. that
24:31she was doing the best she could with
24:34the situation she had.
24:38That's all that DNA is going to believe.
24:54Joshua's going to say it's not Joshua.
24:58Jacob's brother.
24:59>> Josh,
25:02>> who do you think he is going to say her
25:04brother?
25:07>> She gonna side with his brother.
25:08>> Watch this.
25:09>> He ain't going to say no.
25:11>> Watch this. This is what he's going to
25:12say.
25:16I don't know what you're talking about.
25:18I wasn't there.
25:20>> Everyone tries that at first.
25:24>> You think that's going to work for him?
25:27Do you think the people that hear what
25:28everyone has to say about it that make
25:30judgments on it are going to that's not
25:31going to work.
25:33He's going to say
25:36he's going to say
25:39he hurt that dude. He's going to say
25:42some crazy white boy showed up and hurt
25:44that dude. That's what he say. And
25:47that's not going to work for him.
25:49And it shouldn't.
25:57If all that happened was you were at the
25:58wrong place and you ended up in a
26:00situation and I say the wrong place at
26:02the wrong time. Maybe you were at the
26:04right place at the right time
26:06>> to do something to help a friend.
26:09>> And now
26:09>> was this ever said uh
26:12I didn't have that deal with it.
26:17They didn't want nothing to do with me.
26:18>> What?
26:19>> I don't think you wanted to go in there
26:21and do that. That's not how you planned
26:22your day, right? Of course, Sam cuz
26:26anybody else out there might have
26:27already said it.
26:30>> Oh, have they said that? Everyone says
26:32stuff like that first.
26:33>> Are you saying
26:34>> towards me? Yeah.
26:35>> Oh, you and Tony Park. No,
26:39>> it's kind of crazy. That's when I kept
26:41repeating
26:44cuz I let it be known.
26:47It's the situation. I let it be known
26:51>> when I walk in those focal
26:56>> say
26:57would be
27:00>> you know what
27:01>> you kept making it your deal by showing
27:04up
27:04>> but what was said what was said and I
27:06think the reason that we're talking
27:07right now is because I can't figure out
27:09why we can't get past what was said
27:13>> by Geneva by your friend is that you
27:15helped her that night by
27:20out for
27:22that's what we'll see.
27:28You look at it however you want to look
27:29at it. I believe that in her mind that's
27:32how she sees it.
27:35Imagine the bond she would have been in
27:36if you weren't there for her.
27:40I don't know how tight you are. I don't
27:41know how close you are, but imagine the
27:43bond that she would be in if you did not
27:44show up for her. Yeah.
27:48>> And she's got to rely now on some dude
27:51to show up that she's never met.
27:55>> But that's not how
27:57we got to take away time from everybody.
28:02Uh specifically speaking,
28:05children
28:08>> seat their own seat children.
28:14Say again.
28:16>> She has uh the reason why I say I'll go.
28:22That's my friend.
28:24She's getting her child received taken
28:28away from her. That's why she would
28:31that's why this happened the way it did
28:33for the simple fact that
28:36if the kids were there which they were
28:38about a week before.
28:39>> Mhm.
28:42>> I believe in my heart
28:44Jacob wouldn't have shot that boy in
28:46front of them kids or shot that kids.
28:50That's just one.
28:52Two, you would have to think why would I
28:56why would I do this?
28:59Mhm.
28:59>> You know,
29:00>> did you do it for
29:01>> No, since there
29:03>> now fast forward now, now we're in a
29:06situation now situation happen like
29:08this.
29:09People are are getting
29:14time taking away from theirs now.
29:17>> Just give what are you talking?
29:18>> Let's say it's put me in a situation.
29:21>> Okay.
29:24I got one I don't know about.
29:28It's some bullit
29:30that I didn't want to be about. And
29:33>> I was once I pulled up pulled up
29:37>> right now
29:40with my baby.
29:43That's all I want to do. Didn't want to
29:45be over there at Geneva spot.
29:49Guess it can't be mad cuz you know
29:51helping out a friend but
29:55I sure rather be a thousand my baby.
29:57>> Sure.
30:07>> They're babies. They're young and
30:09they've got a whole lifetime of lessons
30:10to learn from their about how to live
30:15how to live right. How to treat people.
30:16how to do right to their friends and to
30:18their family.
30:20>> We're going to teach them.
30:22>> I think you're going to teach them.
30:24>> I agree.
30:26If their mom's going to teach
30:30>> and you know what's going to happen is
30:32that we all make mistakes and I hope
30:35that my kids learn from my mistakes
30:39because they're going to have enough of
30:40their own and I hope they don't have to
30:41go back and relive mine.
30:48Because if if they can do that,
30:51they got a chance to be a lot better
30:53than me. You know what I mean?
30:55>> Mhm.
30:56>> They got a chance to make more
30:58themselves than me.
31:02They have a chance to do all the things
31:04that I had been able to do.
31:09But the only way that they can learn
31:10from my mistakes is if I face my
31:12mistakes.
31:15And I'm going to make a lot. We're We're
31:18both going to make a lot. We both
31:20probably made a lot.
31:26And your kids have a whole lifetime
31:28ahead of them to learn from their dad,
31:31from them.
31:40If it was this or if it was this,
31:44that doesn't change that.
31:54But the only opportunity to make
31:56explanations about this is now
32:02because all all that shows later
32:06was that Geneva was telling the truth.
32:12She could have fed, but she didn't. And
32:15I'm sure it took a lot of bravery, a lot
32:17of courage for her
32:19because she got put in a bad spot.
32:23And I'm sure that if those other guys
32:25find knew what she said. I'm sure it
32:28took a lot of courage for her to say
32:30these things.
32:35>> That's just the way the world goes.
32:38But we can't let those fear or
32:41intimidation of guys like Jacob
32:43>> Mhm.
32:44>> keep us from doing the truth.
32:48>> That's not on her. That's not
32:51>> So what she had to deal with?
32:54>> What's that?
32:55>> What does she have to deal with?
32:57>> She had to deal with the fact that
32:58Gabriel was at her place.
33:05She's looking at
33:09possibility of charges possibly maybe
33:12tampering with evidence because of the
33:14stuff that got taken out of her house.
33:16>> Mhm.
33:17>> Instead of calling and saying, you know,
33:19something happened here,
33:21>> we need help, try to cover things up.
33:23And every time we'll try to cover things
33:24up, we do all our stuff.
33:26>> Mhm.
33:28>> They leave out the garbage and it come,
33:31>> right? But like I told you, it's more
33:33obvious and and it comes out at the end
33:34anyway. You know what I mean?
33:37>> Why did she just call in?
33:39>> But ultimately, she was brave enough to
33:41talk.
33:42>> Yep.
33:42>> She was brave enough to tell the truth
33:44about what happened. And I believe that
33:45she told us the truth about what
33:46happened.
33:51>> She knew she made mistakes.
33:53>> I told you earlier that this white guy
33:55tried to throw all this back at you.
33:57>> And I told you earlier, too, that I'm
33:59not willing to just take him at his
34:00word. I don't know.
34:03>> And I don't love you. Mhm.
34:07>> But I'm able to look at explanations and
34:11look at the way people say things and
34:12look at the evidence that's there
34:16and hopefully figure out what really
34:17happened. I hope that other people will
34:18be able to figure it out, too.
34:26But there's just no way for this to go
34:27with no explanation.
34:33It was all It's all gone to come out in
34:35the head and the time for explaining to
34:37go.
34:45If you told me
34:47that you thought that that guy deserved
34:49what he got, I would understand.
34:52What that guy did was some bad stuff.
34:56I wouldn't want a person like that
34:57anywhere near enough.
35:00You know what I mean? He hurt a little,
35:02bro.
35:05And I can understand why people would
35:07take offense at that. And I can
35:09understand why they wouldn't want him
35:10around. And if you told me that the
35:12reason I didn't want him around, I can
35:15understand that. I could also understand
35:17if you told me, look, I ended up in a
35:19situation where I'm trying to help out.
35:21I don't even whether this dude was did
35:23what he did or didn't, I still would
35:24have helped my friend.
35:27and we did what we thought was the best
35:29thing we could do that we put him
35:31someplace that we thought he could get
35:32help if if he could and it just didn't
35:35happen
35:38that that stuff happens
35:41and I think just as much of that falls
35:43back on him as it falls back on any
35:46he's a grown man
35:49and he got himself into the situation
35:52and Jacob's a grown man and he got
35:54himself into the situation and it let
35:56everybody else Throw them around.
36:00Next time
36:13this is a judgment.
36:16It's always a judgment.
36:32Did there [ __ ]
36:36720?
36:37>> I don't see how [ __ ]
36:39>> You what?
36:39>> Yeah.
36:41>> I'm not sure. Like literally went got
36:44water and come back twice.
36:47That's a phrase I'm gone, which is that
36:49off check date Nice one.
37:20You need to explain the situation so the
37:23others can understand
37:25from your eyes
37:28from what was going on in your mind
37:31and where your heart was when everything
37:33happened.
37:37I think one of the biggest
37:39injustices
37:41would be if
37:45no one knew that.
37:49>> Well,
37:52if I was over here or over there,
37:57>> like I said, it's justice to you might
37:59say
38:02that's the story it
38:05but I did not lie when I said it. I felt
38:09that man did not did nothing so bad
38:16and I wasn't going to be there for
38:20most of the time that they wanted to do
38:22what they had to do.
38:25It's not my business.
38:31Yeah. You got to consider the judgment
38:33when you said
38:35you believe I would have done that
38:45cuz I believe I probably
38:48you know
38:52on top of that you do it again
38:57>> if
39:07If it was a rewind, maybe I would have
39:10caught any
39:24skill to drum.
39:27What was your heart?
39:31Where was your heart that moment? What
39:33was in New York on your mind? What was
39:35your intention?
39:41My intention was to do
39:45whatever decision we made. I was
39:50behind.
39:52What should you have? It's really simple
39:54on the on the
39:56tip that if you want to call them, go
40:00ahead.
40:04If she wanted to leave and go to New
40:06Mexico,
40:10she decided
40:13she decided to buy herself some job.
40:25lay down.
40:26>> What?
40:27>> Then you go up and lay down.
40:31Be real quiet. Go to sleep. That's what
40:33she did.
40:36You guys can see it though
40:41after
40:43the white voice call showed up
40:49and then
40:51um the carpet is pulled up.
40:54I ain't nothing new.
40:57Like I said, I didn't want to.
40:59>> Were you there when that happened?
41:01>> The carpet.
41:01>> Yeah.
41:05When I came back, it was all boiled up.
41:07I laid down to sleep
41:10the same day. The last time I was there,
41:15I guess that's all she wanted cuz
41:21I already knew what happened on my show.
41:26>> You asked for some work
41:29cuz um pretty sure our home girl asked
41:32me for a ride.
41:34But I know she end up shooting shooting
41:37off this
41:39cuz he wouldn't ask me for anything when
41:41he came and just gave her a ride. So
41:44they would just shoot me
41:51told him hold on maybe we can do that.
41:55Went outside as LB if he can.
41:58Like I said, nothing's not going to do
42:00it.
42:03So, sit out there and chill for a
42:05minute. They were all in the garage
42:08and moves were already being made.
42:15When somebody came and asked me, can you
42:17do that for me?
42:21Can I do it for him? I was like, uh,
42:24maybe. What's up? She take me over
42:26there.
42:28He did that.
42:30He wanted me to go ride with him
42:34cuz obviously I'm a facilitator
42:39and
42:42he was already
42:45had to be packing ready for road trip
42:51to I stayed there. Yeah.
42:54I stayed sitting there
42:57but
43:04he pulled it wherever was necessary
43:07for yourself
43:09and this adjustment is what you got
43:15and
43:19you're not just going to sit there
43:22watch out right there the carriage
43:25Yeah.
43:28>> What happened?
43:28>> Uh,
43:30go back to the first question. You
43:31asked, "Where was my heart at?"
43:35Uh, it was right there where
43:41somebody came
43:45something out at the moment.
43:50You have to go this route.
43:55But
43:57one of the cars that are deal first one
44:00of the cars that are deal
44:06he survived.
44:10So he left with him from NES
44:14who all who was with all left together.
44:17Was there another girl with him or just
44:19you and him?
44:24Yeah, I think it came down.
44:27>> I don't know. I still don't know.
44:30>> I see [ __ ] I say
44:31>> were you in the passenger seat or in the
44:33back seat?
44:36>> Oh, me?
44:36>> Yeah.
44:37>> I'm in the middle.
44:38>> You were in the middle.
44:41Okay.
44:42Where did he want to go from there?
44:45>> Let me ask question.
44:47>> Who put who put Gabriel in his truck?
44:51He did.
44:52>> He did by himself.
44:54>> Yes, sir. But you know why?
44:56>> Why?
44:58>> Uh the old girl
45:02that he was there for
45:05came in there and told me about it. You
45:06know what I said? I repeat once again. I
45:09don't know.
45:11>> Yeah.
45:13>> And
45:16big talk like wait.
45:19No.
45:20>> No.
45:22>> Himself.
45:28>> Was he locked?
45:31>> How did you
45:33make nothing noise or moving?
45:36>> On the way there, he was still doing the
45:37same thing I've been explaining. He been
45:39doing all day when I when I pop up.
45:42>> Yeah. He
45:45I guess they call Wayne keeping going.
45:49>> So I see.
45:51>> So the wo put him in the truck. Where'
45:53y'all go from? Need to
45:59>> get straight down 66. I don't know.
46:01>> Go straight to carriage or y'all stop.
46:04>> We stopped a couple times. Matter of
46:05fact, I think
46:08cuz he was uh getting out. He was still
46:12moving. It was.
46:14>> So y'all stopped to check again.
46:16>> Yeah.
46:19>> Then so then y'all went to carriage
46:22later.
46:24>> Mhm.
46:25>> Whose idea was that?
46:27>> It just got the end of I didn't want to
46:29do anything except for we pulled up
46:35and just
46:36>> Where did he Where did he pull up first?
46:41somewhere on the way there.
46:42>> I don't know.
46:43>> Where did y'all go? Once you got to
46:45carriage house, where did y'all go?
46:49>> To take some motor.
46:52>> No, like when y'all got to carriage
46:54house.
46:56>> So, talk to me about what happened once
46:57you got to car. Then what happened?
47:00>> He pulled up
47:03told him I'm going to get up.
47:06I guess he was too lightheaded. lost
47:09lost somebody on him. He can't do it by
47:12himself
47:14like ruthlessly.
47:18So set him down.
47:21I set him down.
47:22>> Did you help him pick him up though?
47:26I helped him pick him
47:28pick up his clothes basically cuz he was
47:32shoes falling off like
47:35didn't want to look bad like
47:37>> she grabbed him like did you help did
47:39you lift him up not his pants or
47:40anything like that did how did he get
47:42out of the bed
47:45>> he he basically by he was basically by
47:48himself but he didn't jump so
47:51>> okay
47:53did you put his clothes out with him or
47:55something since his clothes.
47:56>> And I was thinking like cuz his pants
47:58are falling off and laid up.
48:01>> Sure.
48:02>> You know,
48:02>> did he have shoes?
48:03>> Make sure it's good. Yeah.
48:07>> But I don't think he would have just got
48:09up and walk cuz obviously we have to
48:12help him out the truck.
48:14>> Where were y'all when you dropped him
48:16off out of the truck?
48:21kind of describ
48:24like what it
48:31I don't know what them things is
48:35I think I know I seen tree I think I
48:38think I really weren't paying attention
48:40okay
48:44>> but um I didn't know where no
48:47destination was only thing I was asked
48:50for was to help him get some work.
48:53>> Where did y'all go after that?
48:55>> Text him on you.
48:56>> What' y'all do then?
48:57>> I facilitated him. Okay.
49:02>> But that was not on behalf of what he
49:04did because when he came through the
49:06door, I did not know what was going on.
49:10>> When I came through the door, I know,
49:12you know.
49:12>> So, let me ask you this question. Um,
49:15why did he do what he did?
49:18>> Why? I think because um it was on behalf
49:22of the female on it was on behalf of the
49:25female.
49:26>> So that other female was like, "Hey,
49:27will you help us get this guy out of
49:28here?"
49:30>> Not necessarily, but
49:33>> I'm pretty sure she was like, "Can we
49:35get the ride?" And then she was going to
49:40explain everything else when we pulled
49:41it up. I don't know. But I had walked in
49:46in the midst of that. What was your
49:48intention of going with?
49:49>> Why did you go with to help him out?
49:52>> Yeah.
49:53>> Text or to help him out with C?
49:56>> Uh text man,
50:00>> I didn't I really didn't want to do it.
50:03>> So So when I said earlier that it would
50:06make sense that you want him to hurry up
50:07because you don't want someone holding
50:09up on it, was that what you were
50:10thinking or were you thinking something
50:12else?
50:13I think that was basically
50:16the good judgment I kept saying.
50:19I didn't
50:22I really want if he would have pulled up
50:23at the hospital himself cuz I said I
50:27didn't know the destination. If he would
50:29have pulled up hospital, I would have
50:30helped him out.
50:33>> Did anyone mention the hospital?
50:35>> Did anyone say anything about sending
50:36him to a hospital?
50:38>> I'm the only one. I'm the only one.
50:42We've been sitting there too long. Why?
50:43Why not?
50:46>> When did you hear that he had passed?
50:50>> It had to be at least.
50:53>> It was not immediately. I don't know. I
50:56think Oh, it wasn't all 24 hours.
50:59>> That next day, man.
51:04>> It had to be over 12 hours ago.
51:07What time you guys dropped the ball? Do
51:08you remember? That's what I'm saying.
51:10Early when I was telling you I wasn't
51:13the best um
51:15the best idea I can give was maybe
51:19after 12
51:21somewhere after 12. It could be I'll say
51:24from in between 12 to 2, but don't quote
51:27me on.
51:28>> What the tr?
51:30Have you ever seen it before?
51:33Anything stand out about it too?
51:40I think
51:42it was it was dark time.
51:46It was either green or red. I don't know
51:49why between the two was only two colors
51:52that pop in my head
51:57in jail.
52:00Don't know.
52:03Had you ever seen a white dude before?
52:06Never in my life.
52:11Do you remember what Gabriel was
52:12wearing?
52:18>> I don't even know if he had a jacket on.
52:20>> Do you remember which side?
52:22>> There's no
52:24blue pants.
52:25>> Blue. Blue pants. Do you remember what
52:27side of the car you guys pulled into?
52:31>> Could you Could he walk?
52:32>> Down.
52:34>> Do what?
52:35>> Down. Could he walk whenever you guys
52:37got him out of the truck? Could he walk?
52:42>> No, he can't. I don't not necessarily. I
52:45wouldn't stand him up on his feet.
52:47>> How did y'all set him down?
52:52>> I set him down. Set him down like on his
52:56like like if he was to sit down.
52:59like close to right now.
53:02>> Just with his arms kind of in front of
53:04him like that,
53:06>> legs out.
53:07>> Did he say anything or do anything?
53:11>> By this time, he wasn't really talking.
53:13He was up. He wasn't talking cuz he cuz
53:17I think he was only talking because
53:19>> the people he was around,
53:22>> he had really nothing to say to his
53:23wife. But I believe
53:26>> he don't know him either. You think
53:27April was alive when you left?
53:29>> I know.
53:38>> I know.
53:39>> So, when did you go back and see the
53:41carpet was gone? Did you see the blood
53:43and the stuff in the house on the
53:45couches and all stuff?
53:47>> Yeah.
53:48>> Did you ever see that?
53:49>> When did you go back when all that was
53:50gone?
53:52>> What day?
53:55>> That was immediately It had to be the
53:57same day. If it was after 12, had to be
53:59a couple hours later
54:01>> that same night.
54:04>> Who helped with that? I mean, how did
54:06cuz surely Geneva didn't just do that? I
54:09didn't imagine that.
54:10>> I think uh I don't know.
54:12>> Have you seen what?
54:14>> Cuz
54:15by the time I had came back, it was
54:18already pulled up.
54:21>> Is anybody else there?
54:22>> But I seen the blood before that. Uh it
54:24was a Mexican dude. The one dude I told
54:27you I never seen before.
54:29>> Uhhuh.
54:30>> Was Have you seen Jacob since that beat?
54:36>> No, sir.
54:37>> Were you there when Jacob showed up?
54:40>> I was
54:42not there.
54:44>> Oh, at the D.
54:46>> No, I was actually pulling up and heard
54:49the shot. What time do
54:55>> I would say my best guess at the latest
55:0110 earliest?
55:03>> 10 in the morning or 10?
55:05>> 10.
55:06>> Was Jacob there when you got there?
55:10>> Yeah.
55:12>> So, when you heard you pulled up, you
55:13heard the shot. What did you do?
55:16>> I kind of was confused
55:18>> where it came from or
55:19>> Yeah.
55:24Did you go straight inside?
55:25>> Yeah.
55:26>> What' you see?
55:28>> Which door did you go inside?
55:30>> Uh front.
55:33Front door
55:34>> cuz there's a garage door and the front
55:35door and then the back door, right?
55:37>> You mean which one?
55:39>> The main door. What' you see?
55:44>> Dancing.
55:46>> So dancing.
55:47>> Yeah.
55:48>> From who? dead one.
55:50>> He was dancing like
55:52>> it was crazy
55:53>> like dancing dancing or just wobbling
55:58>> dancing like like still good.
56:01>> Where did he get I
56:02>> see where
56:03>> honestly I thought he scared him with
56:05the shot.
56:06>> Did you see blood or anything?
56:08>> Not immediately.
56:08>> Did you see where he got shot?
56:11>> I found his body where he got shot.
56:13No,
56:14>> I didn't. But I just knew like like I
56:18said, not immediately. I didn't see
56:19blood. But after a while,
56:23>> uh, I put two and two together cuz I
56:25really didn't say nothing. I was in
56:26shot. Um,
56:32>> someone on the body.
56:34>> What was everybody else doing?
56:38>> Trying to stop.
56:41I'm
56:42Yeah, with me and I really can't pay
56:46attention to nobody else. Like I said,
56:48I'm in shock.
56:49>> I'm not saying I was
56:52understand. I was trying to stop
56:53>> trying to figure from shooting again.
56:57>> Mhm.
56:58>> Did he have a gun?
57:01>> You saw Jacob with a gun.
57:06>> Why didn't he shoot him again?
57:11Or did you?
57:13>> I didn't see. I didn't see.
57:15>> You heard the one shot, right? Yeah.
57:17>> Or did you hear multiple?
57:19>> I shot.
57:21>> You go in there. You see Jacob doing
57:23what?
57:32>> Trying to
57:32>> pointing trying to pull the trigger.
57:34>> Yeah. And I'm in the way.
57:36>> In what?
57:37>> And I'm in the way. You blocked it with
57:39your body or what?
57:40>> I'm trying to stop this dude
57:43>> from shooting him with someone
57:45>> for trying to end his life. Yeah.
57:47>> Okay.
57:49>> Who else is doing?
57:51>> I don't know. It's all great. His
57:53brother was there and Nea was there.
57:55>> What does Neva do?
57:58>> She's She's confused, I guess. I already
58:01was cancelled.
58:04>> I think he was trying to stop him, too.
58:07Anybody
58:09else in there?
58:13>> I think so. You get in the way. What
58:17happens?
58:20>> You know, everybody's arguing.
58:21>> Mhm.
58:22>> I'm ready to go, honestly.
58:24>> Yeah.
58:26>> But I'm wondering why
58:29it's so urgent for you to do that, you
58:31know? Mhm.
58:36>> It was just a whole lot of emotion. And
58:38then when I finally calmed down to go
58:41when I came back.
58:44So this story again,
58:46it's like
58:50Leva had no say so at this time because
58:53he already made the move without her say
58:56so regardless in her own house. So
59:00there my my understanding was that they
59:03didn't want him to want to suffer
59:08to
59:10be able to save.
59:12>> You know what I'm saying?
59:13>> Yeah.
59:14>> So
59:15>> who's they?
59:17>> I'm I'mma put Jacob and put Josh in
59:21possess his brother. Of course.
59:23>> Understandable.
59:25>> You don't want nothing bad to happen.
59:28for it.
59:31>> That's why I feel like the beating came
59:32after that. You know, he survived that
59:35that gunshot. Wherever it was, didn't do
59:37nothing. He would have survived it.
59:41>> And the beating.
59:42>> You didn't see where it went though.
59:44>> Just somewhere in the body.
59:45>> Did you see the beat?
59:46>> No.
59:48>> How long from the time that you left to
59:50the time you showed back at the second
59:51time?
59:54>> Approximately eight.
59:59Not even an hour.
1:00:03>> What were they?
1:00:05>> Fist.
1:00:07>> I heard this when we had a conversation.
1:00:09Fist.
1:00:12Bats.
1:00:13A bat.
1:00:19>> Whatever.
1:00:20>> Anything else?
1:00:22>> Not specifically. Anything else that
1:00:25happened had to be in between the time
1:00:27that wasn't there.
1:00:28>> But you didn't hear him talk about
1:00:29anything in each other that so bad. Did
1:00:32you ever see the injury on his head? See
1:00:33his skull?
1:00:34>> By the end of the night, I seen it. Uh
1:00:37the
1:00:39night.
1:00:42That's why I really didn't want to be
1:00:45there.
1:00:47Who talked about they did it if they
1:00:49beat him?
1:00:51Who was the one doing it?
1:00:56um the people who didn't want him to
1:01:00speak.
1:01:01>> What's that?
1:01:05>> Yeah.
1:01:06>> Is it Jake?
1:01:08>> Both. I I'm guessing
1:01:10>> you didn't hear one way or the other.
1:01:11>> You're just assuming it was someone who
1:01:13didn't want him to speak or do you know?
1:01:14>> I'm I'm assuming it was the brother also
1:01:17because
1:01:17>> that's what I'm ask. Do you know or is
1:01:19you just are you just dissing me?
1:01:21>> I'm pretty sure. Yeah, that's it.
1:01:26And why would anybody else do it, you
1:01:28know?
1:01:33I need quiet cuz I would be quiet till I
1:01:36really was quiet until I talked to her.
1:01:40Ain't got nothing to do with me.
1:01:42>> Should he still?
1:01:46Did she say she didn't know him?
1:01:48Is anybody else there? your dad.
1:01:54>> He was there at one point in time, but I
1:01:55don't think he was there for it to be
1:01:58I don't know
1:01:59>> anybody else.
1:02:01>> Yeah,
1:02:03that one that one female that one female
1:02:06had uh po I think that had popped out
1:02:08cuz she was um she the accusation was
1:02:12that the guy had trapped her after after
1:02:17uh he disrespected
1:02:21Jacob.
1:02:22>> Mhm.
1:02:24>> Uh maybe like 45 minutes later, the one
1:02:27girl comes in.
1:02:29I don't know her name, nothing like
1:02:31that. The same girl who called a boy.
1:02:33She runs in. She said she was being
1:02:35trapped in a hotel room town.
1:02:39And he was the one that
1:02:44hog tied her and left in a cup of water.
1:02:47uh what I did that stole this dude's car
1:02:52or something like that and he's been
1:02:54making money every day off of it.
1:02:57As soon as that happened,
1:03:00I believe that's when Jacob jumped the
1:03:03gun and shot while we were outside.
1:03:08I got the story after I came in.
1:03:10Whatever.
1:03:11>> So, you had been there for a little
1:03:12while before the shot?
1:03:14>> Yeah.
1:03:16So you've been there. You went outside.
1:03:17I heard the shop. Why were you outside?
1:03:19>> I was outside. I had walked to the the
1:03:21store.
1:03:24>> I was walking back.
1:03:26>> You heard the time I got to the
1:03:28apartment across the street. I heard it.
1:03:31And I sit there and think and I was
1:03:32like, "Fuck." Ran to the house
1:03:36and it was what it was. I
1:03:38>> When the shot happened, how many people
1:03:40were there? Who were you?
1:03:44I said uh I was really in shock.
1:03:47>> We I know we ain't Jacob ne
1:03:53>> and that was one girl named Gable.
1:03:56That's all.
1:03:56>> The one girl was
1:04:00>> she had to be there cuz as soon as she
1:04:01told him
1:04:02>> was he there?
1:04:03>> Nope.
1:04:04>> Uh
1:04:06who
1:04:10lives there?
1:04:12My brain's going. Oh, son, man.
1:04:14>> Neva didn't.
1:04:15>> Neva, sorry.
1:04:16>> Yeah.
1:04:17>> Said Neva. Neva. Neva was there. Neva's
1:04:20dad there.
1:04:21>> I think he was here at that time.
1:04:23>> Was there
1:04:26count seven?
1:04:27>> What?
1:04:27>> Better be saving count.
1:04:28>> Anybody else there?
1:04:31>> Guys,
1:04:36I think so. Okay.
1:04:38>> So, you come back, get beat up, worse.
1:04:43Is that right?
1:04:46You said you assume Josh did it. Did
1:04:48they talk about Jacob doing it or you
1:04:50assuming that as well?
1:04:51>> I'm assuming that as well.
1:04:53>> Okay. You said something about the girl,
1:04:55the wife popped off.
1:04:57>> Did that girl do anything?
1:04:58>> That's uh at first.
1:05:02>> Yeah. Just the disrespect.
1:05:04>> The girl didn't do nothing.
1:05:06>> She didn't do anything. Is she to She
1:05:10was just talking
1:05:16like totally.
1:05:17>> So you're you're there. What happens
1:05:19when you get there? You see the dudes
1:05:20beat up more skull. Anything else?
1:05:24Do they all stay there? How long you
1:05:25there?
1:05:26>> Yeah. Like it's these these we have a
1:05:28few words.
1:05:31>> Like I said, I keep
1:05:32>> doing it up like that or
1:05:34>> No, we have a few words like, "Hey,
1:05:35what's up? I know he he told me what's
1:05:38up cuz we didn't have no problems.
1:05:40>> Uhhuh.
1:05:42>> But it just wasn't like hey what's up?
1:05:45We're trying to have a conversation. Say
1:05:46what's up. I don't know what else to say
1:05:48to you. I don't know what to say.
1:05:49Period.
1:05:50>> Mhm.
1:05:52>> And I'm just like damn. So what y'all
1:05:54going to do about this Josh and his
1:05:57brother Jacob? Cuz now y'all are just
1:06:02it's it's it's like
1:06:04>> Mhm. I would be
1:06:07a real bad person to get fights. Turn
1:06:11right around as soon as I see that them
1:06:12two are gone and I know they're playing.
1:06:14I kind of feel like they're just going
1:06:16to not come back. Just turn around, hit
1:06:18the door, which I should have did, but
1:06:23I just wasn't in my mind.
1:06:27And she had no idea like what the hell
1:06:29she was going to do. Do you
1:06:38That's when I had LB leave that time.
1:06:43>> I hit him back.
1:06:47>> What you guys do?
1:06:48>> And and um
1:06:50the whole time I'm like making like
1:06:53he he is a soldier.
1:06:57Yeah.
1:06:58>> Yeah.
1:06:59>> Tough guy.
1:07:01>> Yeah. to me
1:07:03because when I look at him at this point
1:07:06in time and think about it, would I be
1:07:08able to survive this much?
1:07:13No. A long time ago.
1:07:16That's why I'm debating in my head like
1:07:20what are we what now is what are we
1:07:22going to do? Cuz I this is my third time
1:07:24here.
1:07:27Obviously, my name going to come up like
1:07:28it did. Yeah.
1:07:31She had no She had no hands. I have none
1:07:35either.
1:07:41>> When you look back at it,
1:07:45>> you could do it again. What would you
1:07:47do?
1:07:48>> Thought it never showed up.
1:07:52>> Show up.
1:07:58Do you think it was wrong to leave him
1:08:00there? Do you think we gave him the best
1:08:01chance he could?
1:08:04>> I think
1:08:06the the
1:08:07time period was too long
1:08:10in every which way. Uh you want to think
1:08:13about it as in time period too long to
1:08:16call nobody. Yep. Time period too long
1:08:19for him to be in the house that long.
1:08:20is, you know, time period too long for
1:08:25them to be beefing for a week
1:08:28and let it escalate up to this. Yes.
1:08:34Yeah. I I would do it totally different,
1:08:35but I would not be able to explain how I
1:08:38would do it.
1:08:40It could be as well as
1:08:46text herb
1:08:48while he's driving off and send it call
1:08:51911. Send him to this address.
1:08:53>> Yeah.
1:08:54>> You know,
1:09:00can't say I did nothing.
1:09:02Been right here the whole time. Did you
1:09:04see anything? No. But I know who did. M
1:09:09person who has this.
1:09:14>> I'm just here to help. Officer, thank
1:09:16you. Please
1:09:19wait. I see myself. You know,
1:09:30you feel better
1:09:33talking.
1:09:34>> Yeah, just talking about it. Yeah. But
1:09:36it's a lot to hold.
1:09:38That's a lot to keep on your shoulders
1:09:40looking.
1:09:42>> It's a lot to waste somebody.
1:09:49>> Yeah. Say it. It's a little more. How do
1:09:53you think you'll be judged by by what
1:09:55you
1:10:01>> just
1:10:06decision to jump in and
1:10:09what? Just by the decision just just by
1:10:13the decision to jump in, I'll be just
1:10:16sad. I mean,
1:10:22it's okay. It'll be okay.
1:10:27I hope. Well, I hope you don't I wish
1:10:29that
1:10:34you know, but I think every everything
1:10:36we do has consequences. Everything. And
1:10:39what I mean by that is everything
1:10:40everything we do every action has a
1:10:43reaction.
1:10:47>> Positive or negative
1:10:50>> not everything's wrong positive or
1:10:52negative too. I think
1:10:56sometimes we make a mistake
1:10:59outcome some of it's bad but when we
1:11:01learn from this mistake we turn it
1:11:03around you know good things
1:11:08you agree with that
1:11:13time
1:11:16it's not going to be long
1:11:20not even speaking me and general
1:11:22speaking and
1:11:24how
1:11:26society is and how we live how you being
1:11:30judged how judgment day they were going.
1:11:34How I'm already dealing with certain
1:11:37things.
1:11:46So then you wonder why people
1:11:49go out and just take their lives, their
1:11:52own life.
1:11:55Why?
1:11:58You you can't be mad at him because you
1:12:00don't know what the next man is going to
1:12:02or
1:12:05you don't know how we body/m
1:12:11you know
1:12:13feel like
1:12:18ain't that nobody will
1:12:28I missed a call from the agent.
1:12:32>> What do you want me to ask him?
1:12:35>> Do you want to talk to him tomorrow or
1:12:37something or not?
1:12:39>> I kind of want to keep this out the way
1:12:42right now. So, I kind of like know if
1:12:44that's possible.
1:12:44>> You want me to talk now? Talk to him.
1:12:47>> Sure.
1:12:48>> Probably not. I'll ask him if he would.
1:12:50I can't make him, but I'll ask him.
1:12:51>> Maybe bring some arms.
1:12:54Let's see what he's got. And
1:12:57I'll let him know. Okay. Thank you, sir.
1:13:12We shed tears today. Whatever.
1:13:16We got [ __ ] and tears today. It's a lot,
1:13:19man.
1:13:20>> It's a lot.
1:13:22There's no getting around it.
1:13:26Some bad things happen.
1:13:32Everything happens for a reason. All we
1:13:34could do is move forward, right?
1:13:42We wish I had a warning, though. Do I
1:13:44know?
1:13:45>> Wish I had a warning.
1:13:47>> Wish you did a hunt.
1:13:49>> Wish I didn't
1:13:52really figure out why.
1:13:57>> When you came back, you you said uh you
1:14:01guys are trying to figure out what was
1:14:02going on. What happened after that?
1:14:07came back they were he was beat up more
1:14:10>> trying to figure out what what you're
1:14:12going to do what's going on what
1:14:15>> really um
1:14:18the plan then was sitting ducks
1:14:22>> and I was going to sit
1:14:23>> everyone's still there
1:14:24>> I was going to sit like a duck with the
1:14:26knives actually just
1:14:29that the one girl in her
1:14:33waiting
1:14:33>> one girl in here who
1:14:35>> leave them
1:14:35>> so Jacob knew how he
1:14:37This is the third time we tell about the
1:14:39>> second thing cuz you you told
1:14:41>> Yeah. Yeah.
1:14:46>> So we're sitting and basically best plan
1:14:49we had in the world was wait on them.
1:14:52See if they actually come back.
1:14:55>> See who comes back.
1:14:57>> The brothers.
1:14:58>> So they left before you came back the
1:14:59first second time. Okay.
1:15:08And
1:15:09we're turning two. She turned four.
1:15:13Nothing to go.
1:15:17Go. Come back.
1:15:19>> What's the dude doing?
1:15:22>> He was tripping. After a while, he was
1:15:24sleeping peacefully.
1:15:26>> Peacefully. Like
1:15:30got the blanket and all.
1:15:31>> Mhm. You know,
1:15:33>> I'm checking check on him. Make sure
1:15:35he's alive.
1:15:40>> He's good.
1:15:42I thought he was going to eventually get
1:15:44up and walk out.
1:15:46>> Mhm.
1:15:46>> You know, and tell a story to a person
1:15:50that you're going to handle it, you
1:15:53know.
1:15:55But like I said, if it was able to,
1:16:00he knew I he knew I wouldn't have
1:16:02nothing to do with that.
1:16:05I just wish you know, too, too bad for
1:16:08wish. I wish my baby would see right
1:16:10now.
1:16:20>> Y'all waited. What you do?
1:16:26I left. I ended up leaving. How
1:16:28>> did you leave? Someone get you or did
1:16:29you walk?
1:16:30>> This is after the second time we were
1:16:32waiting for a couple hours, right?
1:16:33>> Mhm.
1:16:34>> LP came and got me.
1:16:36>> Okay.
1:16:38>> Stay chilling.
1:16:41I had to come back. Swear.
1:16:45>> So the third time you came back,
1:16:48the third time you
1:16:50>> What happened then? What' you say when
1:16:52you came in?
1:16:58>> A lot of different people.
1:17:00>> Do what?
1:17:00>> It's a lot of different people. Still
1:17:03still laying there sleeping peace.
1:17:05>> Who's all the people?
1:17:08>> No.
1:17:10White boy.
1:17:11>> White boys there already.
1:17:14And Jacob there. No.
1:17:19And is that girl still there?
1:17:22That girl there each of them three
1:17:24times.
1:17:26>> White boys there. Anybody else?
1:17:31>> You a white boy. The the girl that white
1:17:34boy can't see you, Gabriel. And anyone
1:17:38else?
1:17:42>> I don't think so.
1:17:42>> I don't think so.
1:17:44>> Nobody. So that's when we get into where
1:17:46the decision was made to take him in the
1:17:49truck.
1:17:49>> Yeah.
1:17:50>> With helped him out. He was alive.
1:17:55>> Y went to test my got some work came
1:17:58back and that's what happened. Then the
1:18:01carpet gone all that way
1:18:05>> when you guys got back.
1:18:06>> I had left
1:18:08it be waiting at first when I first got
1:18:10there.
1:18:11>> Yeah. So once you came back from Texas
1:18:12Motor, where did you go from there?
1:18:14>> Inside.
1:18:15>> You went inside of the house.
1:18:17>> Mhm.
1:18:17>> And what did you see inside the house?
1:18:21>> Just a carpet.
1:18:23>> Carpet carpet.
1:18:24>> Jacked up.
1:18:29>> Kitchen sh
1:18:32like it's too regular.
1:18:34>> Clean it up. It's real,
1:18:39>> man. M I left.
1:18:41>> How long were you there for?
1:18:43>> Not that long.
1:18:43>> Not that long. Then he came got you.
1:18:45>> Yeah.
1:18:46>> Who?
1:18:49>> Same person.
1:18:51>> And got you. Then you came back later on
1:18:55>> and then everything's gone. Anybody else
1:18:57there besides Diva?
1:19:00>> You close to me?
1:19:02>> Mexican dude.
1:19:04>> The guy you never seen.
1:19:06I think uh the old girl had to be there
1:19:09too, but she was like I guess she was in
1:19:10the other room or something.
1:19:12>> Awake sleep?
1:19:13>> Yeah, awake.
1:19:14>> She's awake in the other room.
1:19:15>> Yeah, like probably changed me or
1:19:17something.
1:19:17>> Why do you think she was there?
1:19:19>> Cuz it was he wasn't there for me. He
1:19:23know if if I get the boyfriend title.
1:19:26>> Mhm.
1:19:27>> He not going to be she not going to do
1:19:29that. You know
1:19:31>> she what?
1:19:32>> She not she wouldn't let no other guy
1:19:34come over there. um just on our behalf.
1:19:36>> Yeah.
1:19:37>> Are you guys kind of dating working that
1:19:40way?
1:19:40>> Where was Cool?
1:19:43>> Yeah.
1:19:45>> Well, understood. Ain't have to be
1:19:46explained, you know.
1:19:47>> Yeah.
1:19:48>> When I'm gone, I It's none of my
1:19:52business.
1:19:55>> Man,
1:19:57crashed out.
1:19:58>> Yeah.
1:20:00Did she say who came and did the carpet
1:20:02and the or did she do it?
1:20:06Someone think she did that?
1:20:07>> She didn't tell you.
1:20:08>> I don't think she did that though.
1:20:10>> You don't know if you did though.
1:20:13>> Um,
1:20:15anything else?
1:20:17Did you wake up? What time did you wake
1:20:19up? What did you do after you woke up?
1:20:22>> I woke up.
1:20:27That dude's just your little your little
1:20:29Uber, isn't he?
1:20:30>> Man, it's my problem.
1:20:32>> Detoxic car.
1:20:34>> He came without me.
1:20:35>> No,
1:20:35>> I mean I came to take
1:20:36>> you calling him on Facebook.
1:20:40Facebook phone.
1:20:42>> What phone?
1:20:43>> Divas.
1:20:44>> Oh, diva's phone.
1:20:47>> I can't even tell you what the hell I
1:20:48did. Oh, yeah.
1:20:50I went to the crib.
1:20:52>> The last time you did that?
1:20:57I went to my crew with
1:21:00>> you still on 52nd.
1:21:07>> Is there anything else that we didn't
1:21:09ask or anything or any questions?
1:21:18I wonder what
1:21:20>> what that what that uh what that shows
1:21:24up as.
1:21:25>> Do what?
1:21:26>> I wonder how long it's going to take me
1:21:30>> as far as the warrant goes.
1:21:32>> There's no bond on it.
1:21:33>> Yeah. No, I don't.
1:21:35>> The federal ones typically don't have a
1:21:36bond.
1:21:38>> I know. That's what I'm trying to figure
1:21:39out. Like I swear
1:21:42if you didn't believe me earlier,
1:21:43believe me now. I swear I don't know if
1:21:45this federal
1:21:46>> weapons trafficking is the offense.
1:21:50The date of the warrant is
1:21:53810 and 16.
1:22:08So the [ __ ]
1:22:09>> that's when the war was created. It's
1:22:11not when the offense occurred.
1:22:12>> Does that make sense?
1:22:13>> Yeah.
1:22:14>> It's not whenever the crime occurred.
1:22:21>> Are you selling illegal guns?
1:22:25>> No.
1:22:26>> Like stolen?
1:22:30>> No.
1:22:32>> Who's Whose gun was that today? Okay.
1:22:36Was
1:22:36>> Cory's gun. But how'd you get there,
1:22:39though?
1:22:41I didn't say it there, but there four
1:22:44people who deal with it. Just just in
1:22:47case we need
1:22:49>> Just in case you needed it for
1:22:50>> case if we anybody need it been me, our
1:22:53brother, which I'm pretty sure it was a
1:22:56brother, but I think it
1:22:59>> What about the word?
1:23:01>> What was it?
1:23:02>> Word could have been It could have been
1:23:03mine.
1:23:04>> Forgot about it. I don't know. Honestly,
1:23:06I don't know.
1:23:07>> I I honestly don't know what it is.
1:23:08>> No. or how much it is or anything about
1:23:10it. I know they just said they found
1:23:13something.
1:23:14>> It's real petty. I know. Whatever it is.
1:23:19>> Like really petty.
1:23:20>> That's real. What?
1:23:21>> Petty.
1:23:22>> Oh, smoke.
1:23:22>> Yeah.
1:23:25>> We
1:23:26either
1:23:27>> facilitator.
1:23:28>> Either one.
1:23:29>> You going to put that on your business
1:23:30card? Facilitator. Concier.
1:23:33>> Put a father on it. That's supposed to
1:23:36report him, man.
1:23:38This is two months.
1:23:41Hopefully we can something different.
1:23:44Something different.
1:23:45>> Quit hanging out with these people.
1:23:49>> A lot of times it's the people you keep
1:23:50around you.
1:23:53>> I know when I had to get shots in the
1:23:55win.
1:23:58>> You're right.
1:24:00>> You know we showed up in that area after
1:24:02that happened,
1:24:03>> huh?
1:24:03>> We had a call about it. Yeah, which I
1:24:06do.
1:24:07>> Just couldn't find. I mean, how are we
1:24:09going to find that?
1:24:09>> Yeah.
1:24:10>> We going to knock on every door. Anyone
1:24:12shoot a gun in here? You know what I
1:24:13mean? Like,
1:24:14>> how do we find that?
1:24:16>> Yeah,
1:24:17>> it was a tough one.
1:24:20>> Firecrackers and stuff. I mean, crazy
1:24:23thing is just one
1:24:24>> in the story. Try to stop him from going
1:24:27doing it again. Like,
1:24:28>> yeah,
1:24:30that would that second one would have
1:24:32pinpointed y'all even more.
1:24:35I want to go.
1:24:37>> Yeah,
1:24:37>> I want to go. I still understand.
1:24:42>> Today you're going to go to jail for the
1:24:44wars.
1:24:45>> Mhm.
1:24:48>> They'll sort everything down.
1:24:53Do
1:24:53>> you have any questions or anything?
1:24:58>> No bond. Chver.
1:25:01Like I said, with federal stuff, they
1:25:03typically just put holds on people
1:25:04because it has to be disposed of really
1:25:06quickly. Whether it's a conviction or
1:25:09whether it's um you go to court on it or
1:25:12whatever else, it happens real fast
1:25:14within like six weeks. You know, it
1:25:15takes like two years in the state. So,
1:25:17federal stuff is quick.
1:25:19Typically, from the time that charges
1:25:22are brought, you have six weeks to go to
1:25:25grand jury till you're grand jury or
1:25:27something like that. Yeah, they may have
1:25:28already done that,
1:25:30but it happened real fast.
1:25:32I mean, within a couple months,
1:25:37>> they they probably do the same thing
1:25:40with the temporary.
1:25:43>> I'm not sure.
1:25:45>> Maybe
1:25:46>> we'll talk to the DA's office,
1:25:48communicate with them.
1:25:50>> Hopefully,
1:25:52Scots.
1:25:55>> That's always the ideal, right?
1:26:00[ __ ]
1:26:02It's not a fun place, especially when
1:26:05you don't see your family.
1:26:07>> Do you need anything right now? No
1:26:09bathroom or anything? I'm chugging that
1:26:11water.
1:26:12>> Yeah, my mouth is trashed.
1:26:16>> All right, hold out here real quick.
1:26:18>> All right, I'll leave the door cracked.
1:26:20>> Hey. Um, damn.
1:26:23>> Yeah, I was wondering if they were still
1:26:24here. I don't think they are, though.
1:26:26Oh, you're
1:26:28>> I doubt it honestly.
1:26:32>> Appreciate you. Cool.
1:26:56I love
1:27:01y'all.
1:27:08destination.
1:27:34Okay.
1:27:39I wish it was like first 48. He had
1:27:41cigarettes and
1:27:45>> uh now is better filtration system.
1:27:52>> We need like real like these are our
1:27:54offices if we had like a
1:27:57bigger room, you know. Mhm.
1:27:59>> Like good filtration.
1:28:02We smell smoke.
1:28:13Hey, what's that lady kept talking on
1:28:14that tank
1:28:16>> phone
1:28:17>> on the PA?
1:28:18>> Yeah, I don't know who it was. So tell
1:28:20me um I said it had to do with
1:28:24>> Okay.
1:28:25>> So I um you're going to be basically
1:28:31looked out at the county
1:28:32>> on that warrant. Okay.
1:28:37>> Process we can get through what
1:28:39>> the warrant. Yeah, there's a warrant on
1:28:40there and then you want to see
1:28:45pass all that.
1:28:46>> And then there's two tickets too on
1:28:48there.
1:28:49You said you got some tickets, right?
1:29:11>> Yeah, we've been trying to think things
1:29:12funny.
1:29:13>> And it could be that someone in there
1:29:15done something wrong. He told me when I
1:29:16talked to him that it had to do with
1:29:17with Marcel and Cassie.
1:29:22So,
1:29:25but like I said, think any questions you
1:29:28have, just think of them and then um
1:29:31ask them. Okay.
1:29:34>> I wonder why uh
1:29:37if this has been on here and why didn't
1:29:39um I've been like send warn out to my
1:29:42anybody came to the house. Have you had
1:29:45any uh
1:29:47>> I don't know.
1:29:48>> Have you been stalked or anything since
1:29:50then? Since August?
1:29:52>> I don't know.
1:29:54>> August is right here. Right here. So the
1:29:56date this right here date of war.
1:29:59>> It's backwards is August 10th of 2016.
1:30:02>> Does that sound like about the right
1:30:03time frame for
1:30:05>> um for the Oh,
1:30:07>> think you have blood on your shoes from
1:30:08what happened the other day? It's
1:30:11>> probably it's possible, but Here's what
1:30:14I'm going to do. I'm going hang on to
1:30:15him tonight. Okay? I'm going have my
1:30:17guys look at it tomorrow. Okay? And then
1:30:20uh
1:30:23I'll go from there.
1:30:26>> That's just something if there's blood
1:30:27on it.
1:30:31>> These two ticket warrants. That's just
1:30:34You said you had tickets, right?
1:30:36>> I think it was like two. Yeah.
1:30:38>> Like they're on the same day.
1:30:40>> Mhm.
1:30:41>> I don't even see them. They Oh, they're
1:30:43on.
1:30:45They won't show.
1:30:46>> Okay. Yeah.
1:30:52>> I bet what one of them is is do you get
1:30:54a ticket for speeding or something? No
1:30:56driver's license or something.
1:30:57>> Both them.
1:30:58>> So, he probably got a warrant for that
1:31:00and then a warrant for not going to
1:31:01court. M
1:31:06>> I would guess
1:31:11how expensive.
1:31:20>> Do you want
1:31:29Are you
1:31:30>> Yeah. Do you go at
1:31:49>> What's this? Is this like a wallet?
1:31:51>> No, I'm not diabetic. You're dead. Just
1:31:54insul.
1:31:59Okay.
1:32:00Can I look? Is it possible I use the
1:32:02phone right here,
1:32:04>> Chris?
1:32:24What's the number you want?
1:32:34Do you have anything on your hands or
1:32:36anything? Any injuries or
1:32:39cuff are still a bit red?
1:32:41>> Put those things t
1:32:44>> No.
1:32:46Yeah.
1:32:48>> Co.
1:32:51She is 40 because she don't even know.
1:32:53>> No answer.
1:32:55>> She 48.
1:32:56>> It's all Z. Okay. But say when we call
1:32:57it's all zeros. Who else?
1:33:02Try to read that again. Lower up.
1:33:03>> Yeah. Lower up.
1:33:28They are 76.
1:33:32>> Do what?
1:33:34>> Who is it?
1:33:36>> Charles.
1:33:36>> Yeah.
1:33:41>> Where are they at?
1:33:45>> You need to get
1:33:48>> You need to get navigator, dude.
1:33:53didn't work out.
1:33:55>> Try again.
1:33:56>> Mhm.
1:33:57>> Sometimes if you call right back,
1:33:59>> that's what we do like three times.
1:34:02>> Initially, I get tired of it just
1:34:03answering
1:34:12wrote the initial.
1:34:19Do uh do you have a paper stat?
1:34:22>> I do.
1:34:24Oh, I bet it was Crane that was on the
1:34:27last speaker. I do.
1:34:28>> Crane.
1:34:30Kimberly.
1:34:33I was trying to think of who was we
1:34:35typically use negotiators to
1:34:39do the call outs over the PA and stuff.
1:34:42>> I was like, what girl does that? Did you
1:34:44hear
1:34:46>> after a while? After a while. Yeah, we
1:34:48talked about that.
1:34:50>> I was sleeping. Then our phone stopped
1:34:51blowing up. It was a brother like
1:34:54Demetri outside.
1:34:57>> How did you know there were out there
1:34:59and you know
1:35:00>> exactly?
1:35:01>> Oh,
1:35:03>> he lived there. Her brother live there.
1:35:04>> Yeah.
1:35:06>> Someone open up in the garage.
1:35:08>> My mom get that roll by.
1:35:11>> Oh, really?
1:35:12>> Yeah.
1:35:15>> I wasn't wear at that time though. all
1:35:17the way up.
1:35:19I didn't put these shoes on. This is not
1:35:22usually try another one or you
1:35:27>> I get you'll get all the calls at the
1:35:28jail.
1:35:38>> I have little manilas for that
1:35:42swarm.
1:35:45um for the for the case. I got nothing
1:35:49paper size.
1:35:52>> I know I can get you one.
1:35:55Let me see. Usually the CS room there's
1:35:57some let me go see
1:36:02unless they change my
1:36:11>> Yeah.
1:36:15>> Yeah.
1:36:16paying for Christmas
1:36:20transport.
1:36:24>> Hey Demetrius, these guys are going to
1:36:27give you all over
1:36:42that one. There'll be one with your with
1:36:44your stuff. Okay. But I got to put this
1:36:46woman on.
1:36:48>> Following the interrogation, Demetrius
1:36:50Lights remained publicly connected to
1:36:52the Gabriel Salazar homicide
1:36:53investigation, but the record around his
1:36:56final outcome in that case is not as
1:36:58clear as it is for the other people
1:36:59involved. Investigators tied lights to
1:37:02the case through warrant-based reporting
1:37:03and statements from others. His name
1:37:06appeared in accounts describing what
1:37:08happened inside the Avenue Q duplex and
1:37:10in allegations that Gabriel Salazar was
1:37:12later moved from that location and left
1:37:14at the carriage house in and suites. But
1:37:16based on the available public record,
1:37:18there is no clearly verified state court
1:37:20conviction, plea, dismissal, or sentence
1:37:23for Lights and Gabriel Salazar's
1:37:25homicide. What is clearly documented is
1:37:27a separate federal case from that same
1:37:29period. In 2017, Lights pleaded guilty
1:37:33in a case involving the exploitation of
1:37:35a 15-year-old victim in Leb, Texas. He
1:37:38was later sentenced to 293 months in
1:37:41federal prison, followed by supervised
1:37:43release and lifetime registration
1:37:44requirements. That makes the public
1:37:47record around lights unusual. His name
1:37:49was tied to the Salazar homicide
1:37:51investigation through the warrant
1:37:52narrative, but the confirmed long-term
1:37:55prison sentence attached to him came
1:37:56from the separate federal case. In the
1:37:59Salazar case itself, the available
1:38:01records show allegations and
1:38:02investigative connections, not a clearly
1:38:05documented final homicide conviction
1:38:07against Lights. If you found this video
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