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1:11so can you tell us about how you got
1:12started with contesting yes uhuh uh
1:16Norman Vincent Peele had the book called
1:19The Power of Positive Thinking and I had
1:23picked it up read it and there were two
1:26things that really en enticed me to
1:30research further and that was when he
1:32said you can have anything you want
1:35provided you I know what it is see
1:38yourself as already having it and those
1:41were three things that intrigued me and
1:45uh I was you know just a little happy
1:47Homemaker no education high school
1:50education period and the mother of three
1:53and sitting home and needing a lot of
1:55little creature Comfort things you know
1:58and so I thought well oh that sounds
2:01exciting so that night uh my husband got
2:04in and I said I read this book and I
2:07says what would you like and he was
2:09reading the Dallas Morning News and uh
2:12he said well look here cocacola has a
2:15contest and uh you can win an outboard
2:18motor all you have to do is write 25
2:22words while you take Coca-Cola on
2:25outings and I said and I then outboard
2:28motor and then he went on and finished
2:30reading his paper well I went into the
2:34bedroom and he's W an outboard motor so
2:38I sit there and I thought cocacola on
2:42AED and I thought I don't we don't even
2:45drink Cokes that's going to be a tough
2:48one but I saw him sitting in a boat with
2:53his motor enjoying himself and so I
2:58wrote uh oh he liked to go fishing by
3:01himself on weekends cuz he had a very
3:04serious job and he was always stretched
3:07out and the kids were too young to take
3:10him fishing at that point and so he'd go
3:13out for the
3:14afternoon okay so now I'm sitting there
3:17and I see him in this boat and I write
3:20I'm a lone wolf fisherman HS are my
3:25silent Partners they contribute no Yaky
3:30Yak only enjoyment when called upon 25
3:35words put it in an envelope mailed it
3:38off and actually said to him I wonder
3:42how long it's going to take him to let
3:45us know we want now that's positive
3:48thinking I didn't know any better I just
3:51knew uh he's got I wrote that right that
3:55incident he's got to win it two weeks
3:59later the
4:00representative from Coca-Cola called and
4:03said uh Mr hadsel you won your outboard
4:06motor I thought oh that's nice now what
4:10would we like to win see now what would
4:13we like to win and my daughter said well
4:17I'd like a swim
4:18bicycle and I said and you want what
4:21color you know I thought well everybody
4:23should do this because uh selected you
4:27know uh here it is see yourself as
4:29having it so we had her sitting on a
4:32bicycle and it was uh now at that point
4:36in time there were many many
4:38opportunities for contests and most of
4:41them see a contest is when you have to
4:44complete something in 25 words or less
4:47name something write an essay a sweep
4:51stake is when they just put your name in
4:54the pot and they draw from 1 million
4:57entries they draw your name
5:00uh I didn't think of that as
5:03competition I always thought the only
5:06competition you ever have is with
5:08yourself and that's when you doubt
5:11yourself so now my daughter uh we had to
5:15name a pomy and it got to be now this
5:18was a fun
5:20thing and my son I mean we didn't look
5:23for big things roller skates you know uh
5:27bicycles and uh things that were that
5:30children
5:32wanted um boom boxes you know for music
5:36and stuff and so we started uh he we s
5:40would sit at night and I says oh we're
5:43going to get Pamela her B her bicycle
5:46and we have to name a pony how are we
5:49going to name a pony and uh I show him a
5:52picture of a pony and uh they said well
5:54he's brown and I said yeah he's brown
5:57and what else and uh what else does he
6:01do well I I said does he prance well
6:05then we call him prance Charming prance
6:09charming and you get on a pony what else
6:12he bucks he Buck too prance charming and
6:16these were what we call coined
6:19words and that's what we send in I don't
6:23know which entry won but she had her
6:26swim
6:27bicycle okay so with then we got all the
6:30little stuff now I want lenium for the
6:33floor and I get lenium then I want
6:36something else and I get it now I'm
6:39thinking
6:40bigger now I want to win trips and my
6:44son my younger son said oh let's go to a
6:47dude
6:48ranch do you know we won this trip to a
6:51dude ranch and stupid me uh this was in
6:55Arizona and that's when I was afraid of
6:58flying and uh they I won the prize
7:02they're going to fly and I said I don't
7:04fly can you drive down and then I was I
7:08was I didn't get the prize because you
7:11had to follow their
7:13rules and so that he was very very
7:17ticked about that you have to learn to
7:20fly you have to learn now the next thing
7:23I wanted the children wanted to go to
7:25Disneyland and that meant flying too and
7:29I thought well I'll just Brave it out
7:31really and truly I was stupid on that
7:34area but at that time I didn't know
7:36better and so we get to U one this trip
7:40to Disneyland we all get
7:42there and it was a fabulous fabulous
7:47trip and later on uh we did win a trip
7:51to dud Ranch and I did go to we did go
7:55to the dud Ranch and then we went a trip
7:58to the World's Fair
7:59did go to the World's Fair and one thing
8:03that was real funny I was going to be 40
8:05years old and I had read that Paris is a
8:11city of light love and
8:13excitement and I wanted to be on the 1
8:18of January I said what are we going to
8:20do this year and pad I said I want to be
8:25in Paris France sitting at a sidewalk
8:29Cafe drinking wine on my 40th
8:33birthday and I started to enter contests
8:38only contests that were offering trips
8:42and there were many of them there was a
8:44lot of trips always in contest always 25
8:47words or less and I always used the same
8:5225
8:55words I said I'm a poop couple with
8:59three kiddos and I'd like to go to Paris
9:02friends to recapture the Rapture of
9:06Springtime ecstasy in my thank 40
9:10frustrated years that's the only thing I
9:13wrote well the first time uh one company
9:18uh investigates before you win a big
9:20prize you're investigated they call you
9:23or they come out interview you and they
9:26do that to find out if you are anywh way
9:29related to the sponsors any way related
9:33because contesting are really on the up
9:36and up and if they wouldn't be I mean it
9:40wouldn't serve any purpose
9:43so I had the
9:46interview and uh everything went fine
9:49but I only won third prize which a
9:52Hammond electric organ and it didn't win
9:55that prize and I said well why did they
9:58give give me electric organ and you know
10:01somebody said to cultivate
10:05patience I have this big electric ham
10:08and organ and here it is now my
10:10birthday's the 1st of June and here it
10:13is April already and I still haven't had
10:17this trip now we're going to have to
10:18plan this trip we're going to be there
10:21uh drinking wine and my husband even
10:23said well we have enough money we'll I
10:25said no I want to win this with a trip
10:29well it seemed like the last minute I
10:32send that entry off and lo and behold I
10:35got a phone call and said Mr hadel I
10:39used his name and when I uh in my name
10:43uh you won a trip to uh Venice Italy and
10:48I thought well I don't want to I've been
10:49to Venice I want to go to
10:52Paris and the man said well you can
10:54change there first class and you can
10:56change uh whatever you want to do
10:59and I he said when would you like the
11:01tickets I said like right now and he had
11:04a messenger come and bring these tickets
11:08and we got on the plane and to make a
11:11long story short on my 40th birthday I
11:15was at that sidewalk with my husband
11:18drinking
11:20water so we did this this is something
11:23else I need to bring up cuz I thought
11:25this was well it it was nice
11:30my husband and I are sitting here one
11:33afternoon and uh I just got back from a
11:36trip a long trip and uh sometime he went
11:39with me and sometime he didn't and he'd
11:42go with me first time and then second
11:44time he got bored because I was always
11:47counseling people and then at night I
11:50was in my and he knew everything so but
11:53anyway we're sitting here he said let's
11:55do something off the let's do something
11:58exciting what are you going do I said
12:00you know I love love New
12:04York I said and I noticed in the paper
12:08that they're having this um uh the best
12:11little h house in Texas and I said I
12:14would love to go and see that off
12:17Broadway show and he said well I'll tell
12:21you what let's uh I'll let's have lunch
12:25and I'll start calling uh the the
12:28airlines and we'll see what we can do he
12:30says sounds like fun doesn't it we're
12:33eating lunch and we come back here for
12:35coffee and the phone
12:37rings uh Mrs hadel I said yes he said
12:42I'm rich little you don't know him but
12:45he was producing a show to tell the
12:48truth in New York and he said your name
12:51came up as a very very good contestant
12:56how would you like to come to New York
12:58and be on my
13:01show I
13:03said I looked at Pat and I thought God
13:05is this for real and I said what is it
13:08um he said well it's to tell the truth
13:11and the show had just
13:12started and uh he said um we'll pay all
13:16your expenses first class and what else
13:18do you want and I said could I have
13:21tickets to this all Broadway show will
13:24Success Ball Rock hun and he said what
13:27else and I said well my husband uh
13:30wanted to come well okay we'll do a to
13:32we'll give your husband a ticket also
13:34and what else I mean you know when they
13:37want you they want you and he said
13:40everything that we advertise you will
13:43also
13:44get electric blankets mix whatever they
13:48were
13:49advertising I said when do you want me
13:51uh when do you want he said where you
13:53come this week or next week and I said
13:55well let's see and my husband says this
13:58week this week
13:59so I said how about this week well we'll
14:01have your tickets for you by cier uh
14:05tomorrow
14:06morning so we went to to New York had
14:11this hotel saw Broadway play was there
14:15three days all they usually pay all
14:18expenses and they give you a voucher if
14:21you want to cab to go wherever you want
14:24to eat wherever you want to and
14:26Entertain You really it's nice to be on
14:29these talk shows well that's we had our
14:32little uh our little thing
14:35again so what is it I mean you know
14:38there were many many instances where I
14:41would not hear of
14:43something uh the thing I'm digressing
14:46I'm sorry because you're interested in
14:48being a winner and all of you out there
14:51are winners you know that and you can
14:54have anything you want provided you know
14:57what it is see yourself as having it and
15:01if there's a delay in results uh don't
15:04be disappointed maybe you need to
15:06cultivate a little more patience that's
15:09all it is and it's yours and you say but
15:13the competition is so Fierce so Fierce
15:17and I says everything is
15:19competition how long I mean eventually
15:24if you stay with something long enough
15:27and strong enough it's energy
15:29and it's got to come to you that's the
15:31Law of
15:32Attraction it's out there for anybody I
15:35never looked at it is
15:37competition I remember uh when after I
15:41had the publicity and had won that house
15:44and lost cenus and had won all the cars
15:47and whatever I needed or wanted uh this
15:50was very interesting because that night
15:52we went to
15:55dance and we're dancing and uh right at
15:58the as you came in you signed in and
16:00they had this fish bowl put your name in
16:02at the end of the night they had fruit
16:05cakes because it was Christmas time and
16:08uh they had this big boom box and my
16:11daughter had been wanting this huge boom
16:13box that had all these Acoustics and
16:17things out and I looked at it and I said
16:20oh there's Pamela's Christmas present
16:23well the woman that was um uh taking the
16:26tickets her overheard me
16:29and uh she laughed and she said well Mrs
16:32hil's here so really and truly you it's
16:35stupid to put your name in the hatel one
16:38the boom box already all right what did
16:40I do they were giving me their
16:43energy everybody in that room gave me
16:46energy cuz they knew now we'd won this
16:49house and we're dancing and this man
16:52said I guess she's got and Pat said
16:54she's got the boom box and we're they're
16:57making a joke of it a joke and they
17:00don't know that I didn't take their
17:03energy they gave it to me and that night
17:06when his boss now it's time to take to
17:10have the drawing and here's that
17:12Fishbowl full of of names and that the
17:16boss said I'm not going to have anything
17:19to do with this somebody come up and
17:21draw a name and a woman came up and she
17:25said I'll get a different name and and
17:28she whisked around and whisked around
17:30and pulled a name and it was my
17:33name okay this is energy this is energy
17:38this is what they do and yes you can get
17:41energy from someone else if they're
17:44negative I mean why not you mentioned
17:47the house can you tell us more about how
17:49you won the house yes yes yes I came
17:52back after my trip and in Dallas we have
17:56a group of women that get to together
17:58and we called them the contest we called
18:01them the range
18:03writers and uh when we got there uh we
18:06would swap entry blanks we would stand
18:09up and say what we won this month we won
18:12this and this and this and this one
18:14month I won a prize every day 30 prizes
18:18one prize every day some of them would
18:21win four or five of them and we had a
18:23lot of fun and they were very supportive
18:26so the night I got there uh the woman
18:29one of the women said oh you want the
18:31world's uh you went to uh New York on
18:34your way to Paris did you stop at the
18:36World's Fair and I said yeah my son won
18:39a trip to the World's Fair so he was
18:42with us and then after the tri we were
18:45at the World's Fair he went back home on
18:48plane and uh someone met him and so
18:50forth and we went on to Paris and she
18:53said while you were there did you see
18:55that from Micah house she said that's a
18:59uh that's an entire United States
19:02contest and forah is having a new
19:05product that they're sponsoring and
19:07they're going to build a house someplace
19:10in the United States and all you have to
19:13do throughout the United States the
19:16builders were you building their houses
19:19but they were using this molding that
19:22for Mah was very very proud of using so
19:27anybody throughout the United States you
19:30had to visit one of the homes that had
19:33these entry blanks that were using for
19:36Micah well in my area it was Garland the
19:40only place that was had this thing and
19:44she said well you can I said no I didn't
19:46know about it I didn't know about it
19:48well it's in Garland and it's closing
19:51next
19:52week and so on the way home uh driving
19:56home because Dallas is a 27 miles from
19:59Irving rather all I could think about
20:02was God I'd like to win a new house
20:06that's per yeah I think I'll win that
20:08house so the next day it's drizzling and
20:14one of two of my friends that that were
20:17in this contest club with me live in
20:19Irving so I called one of them and I
20:21said let's go over and see that for Mah
20:24house and enter And she said Oh She said
20:28said you know they've already picked the
20:30entries it's in New York and they've
20:32already picked the entries and she said
20:35no and the other one was having her rug
20:37shampoo she couldn't go and I tried I
20:41said I'll even buy you pizza on the way
20:44let's go and nobody would go with me
20:47starting to drizzle rain and I something
20:51I swear something pulled actually pulled
20:54me out the next thing I knew I'm in the
20:56car driving
20:5853
21:00miles to go to that verica house and
21:04when I got there I sat in one of the
21:07chairs and I looked at everything around
21:11there and I'm already deciding that I
21:14want Spanish
21:17Furniture I'm already building the
21:19inside of the house and there wasn't
21:22anybody there except the woman that sat
21:25you know at the open house I registered
21:27my my name and I registered Pat's name
21:32and I took an entry blank home and that
21:36night I'm reading the entry blank and it
21:38said you must have visited the home and
21:43I said oh my God I said I put in Pat's
21:47name and Pat my
21:49goodness do you know that Saturday
21:53morning Pat got up and I said we're
21:57getting in the car car you're driving to
22:01Garland and you're going to look at that
22:03house so when they call you you can say
22:07you visited that he did he
22:11did he got to work he believed what I
22:14said we drove all that way so he could
22:18look at that
22:19house and that was it it was a done deal
22:22now we come home and he draws the plans
22:25for the
22:26house and he said tells the kids uh
22:30mama's going to win us this big
22:32house where do we want it we're out
22:35looking for Lots we've got the plan here
22:39so when they come we can be ready and
22:43then uh that it was a month now the
22:46contest closed that
22:47weekend it was a month later when uh
22:52somebody on the phone called uh Pat and
22:56I'm in Dallas and they called Pat and
22:59they asked Pat is Mrs Adel there no
23:03she's at a meeting uh your husband he
23:06said yes he said did she enter that I
23:09mean did she go to that foric home and
23:12Pat said oh we were both there I am so
23:17impressed with that laminated from Micah
23:22we were so impressed and he said the
23:25right thing and that was it and he said
23:28uh well he said we're just checking uh
23:30everybody to see if they actually did go
23:33and there's nothing here thank you Mr
23:35hadson for your time that was all he
23:38said all he oh he asked them are you
23:41related uh to anybody at the house
23:44number one number two any relations that
23:47work for for Mike those were questions
23:50so they had he was on the phone 5
23:52minutes answering all this and he was he
23:55knew that because we knew when we got a
23:57big prize we'd have to have an
24:00investigation we call it and so um I
24:04came home that night and he was EC
24:06static well we went our house and all we
24:09did was I wonder how long it's going to
24:12take them to let us know we one and
24:16that's all I told the kids and so it was
24:20about another month
24:21later morning I woke up and I said uh
24:25the kids were at breakfast the two boys
24:27boys were still there and my daughter
24:29was in college and I said U well listen
24:33they're going to let us know we won this
24:35house for God's sake act
24:39surprised and they went off to
24:42school and my husband said are you sure
24:44they're coming I said yeah and he was I
24:47said just stay in bed and I says pretend
24:50just uh where we're just going to wait
24:53for well at 2:00 and now it's 1:00 and
24:57they're and I went to the bakery to get
25:00some Bakery and I'm getting ready to put
25:02the coffee pot on when they come and
25:04nothing happens and about 2:30 I get
25:08this phone call and they say um uh M Mrs
25:13hadel uh when does your husband get off
25:15work and I said well he's here now uh oh
25:20he they were waiting for him to get off
25:22work so they could tell us together I
25:24said well he's here on what is and I
25:27said he just took the day off well then
25:29we're coming right out we're
25:31Representatives vice president of
25:34formica and our um PR man uh we want to
25:40come out and tell you something very
25:42very interesting for you and I said yeah
25:46yeah so and then I of course reminded
25:50Pat to act surprised you know they came
25:53me in the
25:55door I did I acted oh oh my god oh no
25:58not me oh no no and I see I told Pat
26:01don't show them the plans so we're
26:05talking and he said well where do you
26:07want it and I said well there's a new
26:10area you know just and I said and we
26:14have the plans and uh the guy looked at
26:17me and I said well we were planning we
26:21were planning on building a house but we
26:24didn't tell them that they were going to
26:26pay for it you know and so uh we had all
26:29the plans there and he couldn't believe
26:32it you know and I said yeah we we we had
26:35plans of enlarging this place and that's
26:38how it came
26:40about and from that period on they hired
26:43an interior decorator uh they hired so
26:48many people because it was publicity for
26:52their
26:53for uh they would call me they send me
26:57fly hours uh one weekend he'd always
27:00call and say are you happy are you happy
27:04uh because at that time the national
27:07inquire which is at rag magazine called
27:10and said if there's any negative things
27:14cuz this is the first time a house had
27:16ever been given if there's any negative
27:19things tell us and we'll pay you for the
27:22negative and I says get a real and hung
27:25up and I had that offer two three times
27:29and they were aware that they were
27:31looking for negative things and I I
27:35there weren't any NE but he call up and
27:36say are you happy is there anything we
27:39can do and every time they came they
27:41wind us and DED us at the best best
27:44hotels and so one day he called and he
27:47said what's your favorite place and they
27:49were building and he kept coming and
27:51visiting bringing me candy flowers and
27:54so forth and I said God would I like to
27:57go to New York okay we'll put we'll send
28:00you to New York and they brought us
28:03first class tickets my husband I went to
28:06New York and we had there were at that
28:09time the play was on
28:11Broadway will'll success spoil Rock
28:15Hunter that was the play I wanted to see
28:19and they sent me to New York and while I
28:21was in New York I did a lot of publicity
28:24with uh one of the magazines of the good
28:27housekeeping magazine and they
28:29interviewed me and so forth and then
28:32they had the house open for a month
28:35where they could uh people came in and
28:38um I was just the hostess and they had
28:41people there that took care clean the
28:43house and so forth and then it was
28:45turned over to us officially gold keys
28:48we had a gold key my husband and I were
28:51given a gold key and uh then he asked
28:57listen that's a big at that time that
29:00period in the four 50s 60s rather uh
29:04income tax was a big challenge if you
29:06want to lump some and you had to pay it
29:09right away and he said if income tax is
29:12a problem we'll take care of it you know
29:16I mean they couldn't do enough they
29:19couldn't do enough that was a
29:22[Music]
29:26fabulous
29:30well the immediate family my children uh
29:33were now growing up and uh my son wanted
29:36a Corvette which he got on his
29:39incidentally got on his own uh but one
29:42thing that U I had never well it was
29:46like I said uh when I before I won the
29:49house we lived in a a very comfortable
29:52place and I continually wanted to
29:55redecorate like I wanted to stove and I
29:59projected for a stove and all of a
30:02sudden uh the contest was over with and
30:06I won ,000 I didn't win $1,000 I didn't
30:09win the store and I went to the contest
30:12club and everybody had won in this
30:15particular contest and I had such good
30:18entries and I couldn't understand why I
30:21didn't win my
30:22stove and so I I thought everybody won
30:26televisions and every everything and I
30:28was perplexed on this but two days later
30:31I went $1,000 in another contest and so
30:35I rationalized and I told the children
30:39well this is for my stove I have
30:41$1,000 I thought it was coming by a
30:44stove and this is my prize I went out
30:48and bought a stove at
30:52Sears 3 days later I have a phone call
30:56from this uh a general electric and said
31:00uh we overlooked um telling you Mrs
31:04hadel the prize and it it'll come in the
31:06mail and it think you want a stove a g
31:10stove and I said oh I already bought one
31:14and uh he said well if youd bought a g
31:16we would have given you your money back
31:19but see I got premature and already so
31:22this was something I learned uh later on
31:27uh always I mean there can be a delay in
31:30results and yes I taught the children uh
31:34they were on their own and did their own
31:37coloring and they had their own projects
31:40and we were all very very supportive of
31:43that later on uh there were always
31:47people that would call or come and
31:51that's when I was prompted to write the
31:54book I wrote the book simply
31:57because there was a demand for it and I
32:00thought well maybe they'll leave me
32:01alone I'm not a witch and on the book I
32:05put
32:06wishcraft in order to uh tell them that
32:10I was not using anything but you still
32:13had people that would call and say Hey
32:16you already want only1 three Hammond
32:19organs this is a church and uh can you
32:22do donate one yes I donated them all to
32:26different areas there were things that I
32:29mean you know I didn't put in my book
32:31what kind of contest did your children
32:33enter and how young were they when they
32:35started uh my younger son um the one uh
32:40this is my teenager he was a
32:42teenager and he's getting ready to go to
32:45college and there were lots of things
32:48that he wanted and this contest
32:51sponsored for teenagers write in up 50
32:54words or less
32:57uh this was another one my older son 50
33:01words or less uh why you would like to
33:05represent the United States in
33:07Europe and he wrote the most fabulous
33:11essay it was really really it was very
33:16touching and very good and he won his
33:18trip to Europe toured Europe the other
33:22son was a little more uh
33:25materialistic and and uh this was an
33:29opportunity uh and he was just getting
33:31out going to high school now uh this was
33:34an opportunity to go to New York and to
33:38you had to design a piece of jewelry and
33:41you had to be a
33:42teenager 12 to 14 uh the prize would be
33:47uh this um diamond ring a trip to New
33:52York uh you would go to this U fabulous
33:56place Place uh I'm not interested in
33:59names of uh people uh you know houses
34:04that uh have um clothing manufactured I
34:08don't even REM recall the name but he
34:11did and where you would pick out your
34:14wardrobe he could pick out his wardrobe
34:17he would get a Lindy star safire he'd
34:20get a gold wristatch three days and I
34:24think it was
34:25$2,000 in Cash Plus the mother could
34:29come with him okay he wanted that okay
34:34so he goes out I said what are you going
34:36to do he said well uh the first thing
34:39you think of as a kid and everybody then
34:42was having a guitar and imitating all
34:45these country westerns and he says the
34:47first thing they do they did they think
34:50of a qar and they' you know um make it
34:53as a guitar and I said well what's other
34:57thing he said well and he thought and he
35:01thought he says I think I've got
35:03it and he he just picked up a piece of U
35:07sheet music and there's a sta there and
35:10there's notes and so he went out into
35:13the garage and uh got the little wire
35:17made the bend the wire uh the kind of
35:22wire that you use for soldering stuff
35:26and made a staff and then he took two of
35:29my
35:31beans and sprayed them and he called it
35:35the Lindy star go go and that was
35:38advertising Lindy star saf fires and it
35:42was so damn original who could possibly
35:45think of that and then he did a step
35:47further further he said uh he made it he
35:51actually made it and I said well while
35:53you made it I said why did you send it
35:55to him with your entry you know seeing
35:58something this he got a little bo box
36:02and mounts this thing in and it was
36:04lovely really and put it and send it
36:08in I wonder how long it's going to take
36:10him to let us know I want all this
36:13stuff so one day it was uh I was sitting
36:18there and this morning I woke up and I
36:20says they're going to call us today got
36:23to be here and he was playing little
36:25league and he needed tennis shoes and he
36:28said I've got to get tennis shoes before
36:31the game is at 5:00 I said well we'll go
36:34as soon as they call us and I was
36:36waiting in the mail or call us or in the
36:39mail nothing came in the mail and I'm
36:42sitting there and he was the one that
36:45used to say you don't know
36:47everything uh later on he changed it
36:50when my husband said but she does know
36:53and so from that period on but you don't
36:56know everything you get angry because
36:58this is a teenager and so we're um I
37:03said at 4:00 now he has to be at Little
37:05League at 5 and I thought well I missed
37:08that one how could I miss that one when
37:11you have a feeling there's a knowing
37:14feeling uh there's a calm feeling and
37:17it's not like this you know like when
37:20you're waiting to have your name drawn
37:22at a someplace it's a different feeling
37:26and I had this calm feeling and so we
37:28get in the car and he's in the car and
37:31the phone rings I had the door open the
37:33phone rings and I said go in there and
37:35answer tell them you're Boy tell him
37:37you're boy his name is
37:40Chris he went in there and the man who
37:43am I talking to uh this is Chris hadel
37:46he said uh are you a boy or a girl he
37:49says I'm all boy and they hung up the
37:52phone and that was it that was it what
37:55they had done in New York they were
37:58giving a prize top prize to one girl and
38:02one boy and when they looked at Chris's
38:05name they thought this might be a girl
38:09so we got to find out and when I was
38:12able to visit when we went to New York
38:16uh the uh the people that judge the
38:21judges were there and took us off to
38:22dinner because they wanted to meet the
38:25two top winners the girl and the boy uh
38:28the one girl the one woman that was a
38:30judge called me aside and she said we
38:33had so much great difficulty deciding on
38:38Chris and another boy Michael or
38:41whatever we knew Michael was a boy but
38:44she said I wanted Chris to win and these
38:48guys said let's give it to Michael cuz
38:50he's a boy let's get out of here and she
38:52said I will do that in one condition if
38:56you call Texas and if Chris is a boy
39:00will you give this to Chris and that's
39:03what happened one of the one of the
39:06judges called and it was Chris and
39:09that's how then another time that was
39:11you know sometime it's real close
39:14another time this younger son said well
39:17mother you want all these things but you
39:19never want a car and I said I don't need
39:22a car I was driving to Lincoln I don't
39:25need a car but just prove to me that you
39:28can win a car and you don't need ever
39:31need to prove anything uh when you're
39:34taking a Silvera training don't Jose
39:37says don't ever prove anything prove it
39:39to
39:40yourself and so I thought well okay I
39:43never want a car let's do this and a
39:47local radio station was having a car and
39:50there were giv Dodson
39:52away okay all you had to do was get by
39:56by the phone and at random they would
39:58choose your name and when they would
40:02call you you would have to say my
40:05favorite radio station is k l i n that's
40:10all you had to do and if you said that
40:14then your name would be in a pot and at
40:17the end of six weeks they would draw one
40:20name a week and at the end of six weeks
40:24you were in the pot and then you'd go to
40:26the dealership and then you would draw
40:28which car you would win so it was a very
40:32you had to listen to that radio all day
40:36long because you never knew when they
40:39were going to call you you just so you
40:42had to stay home and at that time there
40:44weren't cell phones and so I was um the
40:48first week I listened all week long and
40:51they call the name and the man up and of
40:55course they would put it over the
40:57telephone uh Mr Hammond so and so from
41:00from
41:01grapine uh what is your favorite radio
41:03station he said key life 1190 on the
41:06dial well you're in the drawing now
41:09you've want that you knew you w a car
41:11when he said that well the second week
41:15was in the second week I'm listening and
41:18it was a Friday afternoon and we had
41:21rental property and my husband is out
41:24there fixing some of the water Plumbing
41:27that was leaking and the children were
41:29around and so he called me and said he
41:32needed one wrench to help with this but
41:37he couldn't go to get it because these
41:39children are out there and he'd had a
41:41hole and he was concerned about the
41:43children get that part and I said no I
41:46can't because I'm they're going to call
41:49me today I know they're going to call me
41:51and I can't leave the house he said damn
41:54it put him on hold I need that part and
41:57I'll get that part he was very angry so
42:00I got in the car and I have the radio on
42:03in the car and I'm uh getting this part
42:07and I had to run all over town because
42:10this part it was some kind of a wrench
42:13finally got it took it out to where he
42:16was working threw it down and ran come W
42:20house but on the radio station I'm
42:22listening and they said we have the
42:25second week with
42:27and during the break we will uh play it
42:30for you and I am
42:34devastated how could that happen I
42:38thought I knew I had that
42:41car and I come home and I am so
42:45disappointed in sitting there and he he
42:48caused that because I know they called
42:50me and damn it and I'm angry really few
42:54minutes the r the station I mean
42:57telephone rang it's my older son the one
43:01that lift and only comes back and brings
43:04his dirty laundry and checks his mail
43:07and he he called he says mother where
43:09were you I said I was out getting daddy
43:12a a part for some of the plumbing he
43:16said while you were gone he said the
43:19phone rang and uh uh there they ask uh
43:24who is uh what is they this said Mrs
43:27hadel what is your favorite radio
43:29station and uh you had I had tacked up
43:34around the house cuz I thought if my
43:36husband calls he's not into this I said
43:40when they call and ask what your
43:43favorite station is say kif 1190 on your
43:47dial is your favorite and he there's the
43:50phone in the kitchen and he looks up and
43:53it's said when they call and he ready oh
43:56my mother's favorite radio station is Ki
44:001190 on D and the man says
44:02congratulations you just won your mother
44:05ad
44:07[Music]
44:23dos so Helena youve you're known as the
44:26who wins every single competition you
44:28take public You've Won some Seven Trips
44:30to Europe you've won a house You've Won
44:32multiple cars and you've thought your
44:34kids to do the same um you've even
44:36written a book that has sold some um 3.5
44:39million copies now you claim you're able
44:42to do this using a methodology you
44:44developed called spec can you tell us a
44:46little bit about the spec system yes
44:49spec and everybody should have that on
44:51their in their vocabulary if they're
44:53wanting material things spec uh should
44:57be a word a password for you if you're
45:00wanting phys uh if you're wanting
45:02material things spec is
45:06selected
45:08projected
45:09expected collected so let's give you an
45:13example uh you're there uh and you're at
45:16a showcase and all of a sudden you see
45:19this diamond
45:20necklace hypothetically this is all
45:23right you're seeing it okay now you are
45:27seeing it so you select it now you
45:31project it how are you going to project
45:33it you're going to see yourself wearing
45:35it you're going to stand in front of the
45:38mirror and you're going to and then
45:39you're going to be at a social Gathering
45:42and people are going to say oh what a
45:44wonderful necklace this is uh putting
45:48energy into this and now you have
45:52already uh selected it you already
45:56expected it because it's here and then
46:02you you projected it rather you
46:05projected it now you want it now you
46:08want it so you project it and when you
46:11project it that's when you
46:14see things happening and I don't know
46:17how it's going to come about is your
46:19boyfriend going to buy it for you do you
46:22win it does your husband buy it for you
46:25do you have a lot of money and you all
46:28it comes to you because you've now
46:30selected it expect and projected it now
46:33you can collect it and it's part of
46:35yours so the system is called spec um
46:38let's start with the s in that spec what
46:41does that stand for that means spec is
46:46selected what is it that you want is it
46:50a car is it
46:52jewelry is it a trip what is it
46:56so you first of all you project it
47:02I first of all you select it you select
47:07what you what do you want you select
47:09it the next thing you do is you project
47:14it what do you do how do you project it
47:18you make a little
47:20scenario so you want a car so you see
47:24the car you see the color of the car you
47:28get in the car you smell the aoer in the
47:32car you feel the car so what you're
47:35doing you're projecting it and you just
47:39it's just a very very easy
47:43technique now what you do after that and
47:47you can keep on doing this and sitting
47:50in your
47:51car now you expect it when is is it
47:56coming when will it be here I've been
47:59waiting when will it be here and then
48:03all of a sudden and it varies every time
48:07you make a projection it varies when it
48:11comes how does it come about it comes
48:13about in different ways mine mostly came
48:18by entering
48:19contest uh Helena one of the one of the
48:22most fascinating stories I came across
48:24in your book was the story of how
48:27you
48:30attracted an opportunity to not only
48:33meet art link letter on a show and and
48:35that was a dream of yours but to
48:37actually win a big prize in that show
48:41could you tell us that story uh yes yes
48:44or how first of all how can you get on
48:47it when I when I went I went to wanted
48:49to see our link letter we were in in the
48:53waiting in line I was was one of the
48:56last people in line and so when the um
48:59young guy young man that directed us
49:02into the show uh there were just a
49:05certain number of people that were
49:06invited I mean that's all the room they
49:09had when he came up to me he closed the
49:12door he said we have no more room and he
49:15gave tickets to the next show that was
49:18being taped in the next studio and I
49:21told him I said I don't want to go to
49:24the next Studio I want to see link l so
49:27he clo I'm sorry closed the door all the
49:30other people went to the next studio for
49:33taping I didn't I sat right there uh
49:37about 10 minutes later he puts his head
49:39out the door is he still here I said
49:42well I came to see AR link lter and he
49:44looked at me and he said well just a
49:46minute he said I'll see if there's a
49:48seat available he came out he said
49:51there's one seat available and he said
49:54but it's up there in the balcony and uh
49:57I guess nobody's coming so you can have
49:59that seat so he directs me up there okay
50:03now I'm sitting there and uh all of a
50:06sudden art link l comes out on the
50:08street looks around he said you know
50:11we're doing our Christmas
50:13show and uh somebody in the audience
50:16today is going to win a fabulous
50:20prize and he looks around and looks
50:23around says hi to a few people and then
50:27he comes up and he walks up he had to
50:30walk up three people and then a platform
50:32three more people cuz I'm up here and he
50:36looks at me and he said do I know you
50:39and I said no I've never been here
50:42before and he said you sure I don't know
50:46you you no I've never been here before
50:48he said got my hand and he said well
50:51you're the one that's going to win the
50:53the bir Christmas present so I walk on
50:56down there and I'm standing there and
50:59all of a sudden they wheel in this huge
51:01huge box and I I don't know I mean I
51:05think it's a huge television that's what
51:08it looked like and so there's or lift up
51:12the lid I lift up the lid and out jumps
51:15a little
51:16miniature uh midgets Santa Claus with
51:20the hat and so forth and he H kisses me
51:23and hands me A500 $ lutra Diamond uh
51:29wristwatch that was my birthday present
51:32from ourland glitter and then art looks
51:35at me he says gotcha and then during the
51:38break this was very interesting I I then
51:41sat on the outskirts there and watched
51:43the rest of the show and then after it's
51:46over and they have you know the uh
51:49commercials and uh the things that roll
51:53out and in um all of the things what is
51:57it called of the wrapup and we're
51:59standing there because I'm I won this
52:03huge friese and AR keeps looking at me
52:05and looking at me and said don't I know
52:08you I know you don't I and he's just so
52:13insistent and I didn't have the heart to
52:15tell him what I'd done so what did I do
52:19the night before the night before I'm
52:24wanting to be on the art link litter
52:26show I sit there in my chair and I say
52:30art link litter when you see me you'll
52:32know me and I'm going to be on your show
52:36art here I am you're I'm going to be on
52:39your
52:40show I'm going to wear an orange
52:44sweater now I asked did the orange
52:47sweater attract him I don't know why did
52:50he walk up all those steps and get me
52:54from the entire Audi
52:56audience I just attribute it too as a
52:59projection this is
53:03projection so I had my Christmas present
53:06all in one uh now these things you can
53:09do and it gets to be fun and you'll say
53:12we're pushing Minds around or you're the
53:14work of the devil not
53:17so believe me when you do this they have
53:21the opportunity to accept or reject the
53:25idea you always have free will and in
53:29this area I look familiar to him because
53:33I was there projecting him and the
53:37orange
53:38sweater was my I said when you see when
53:41you see me I'll be on your show now in
53:44the book Helena you also mentioned how
53:46you were able to teach um some other
53:49people in line for the show to also use
53:52their their their mind to win okay after
53:55the artlink letter show uh when they
53:58tape in Hollywood they tape in different
54:01Studios and they had lots of shows there
54:04that were giving prizes I mean they had
54:06I don't even remember the titles or the
54:09names of them so I got into the next
54:12show and what they were doing at random
54:14picking people from the audience and
54:17asking questions and then some way a
54:20dial went off or whatever and the dial
54:23spun and then you could get win that
54:25prize when I got into that studio all I
54:29could think about was I had talked to my
54:31mother earlier on the phone and she said
54:35uh I said what would you like for
54:36Christmas and she said I've got this
54:39little 12in television I like a color
54:42big color television so when I got in
54:45there I thought here's an opportunity to
54:48bring my mother for color
54:52television now this is takes a little
54:55uh I don't know what happened all I know
54:58is I'm sitting in the front row and
55:01there's two there's a mother and a
55:02daughter beside me okay this wheel goes
55:05around and so forth and he chooses me
55:09and something in the audience or
55:11whatever I don't remember the
55:13particulars but they do the dial and it
55:16comes up with a color
55:17television and I said uh you know they
55:21take your name and where do you want it
55:22mail to and then I send it to my mother
55:26so that was fine and so this woman sat
55:28beside me with her daughter she said I
55:31never wanton anything in my life and I
55:33said well what you like and she says oh
55:37my refrigerator is on the blink I give
55:40anything and they had refrigerator
55:42stoves televisions lawnmowers everything
55:46up there and uh we had to go out for
55:49lunch and in this CA at that time there
55:52was a cafeteria and you could graze for
55:55an hour and then you'd come back to the
55:57studio because they might have had
56:00difficulty getting that studio full of
56:02people and it was during the day and so
56:05forth so and it was in September so
56:07there weren't that many uh tourists out
56:11there so we go back and I said uh while
56:14we're sitting there I said you really
56:16want that uh refrig yes yes I said well
56:20let's play a
56:22game I and what kind of a game I I said
56:25let's project that refrigerator that you
56:29win it I said I will give you energy and
56:33everything don't think of another thing
56:36now just think of your refrigerator
56:39don't think about they're going to
56:41invite me they're going to ask a
56:43question they're going to do the dial
56:45and something else is going to come up
56:47because so many have to go it has to be
56:50this this this and this end result end
56:54end result is what you want and all you
56:57want is that
56:59refrigerator okay and so here three of
57:02us are I'm doing nothing but seeing her
57:05win the refrigerator she's gain for it
57:08she said if I can win that refrigerator
57:11I I I said don't say you never want
57:15anything cuz here you you have an
57:17opportunity and the daughter said yes
57:20I'll work with it well now we go into
57:23the studio and
57:25there's not that much seating and so
57:29they're dividing us up here and he puts
57:32me down here and uh they're up there in
57:35the
57:35Raptors and she's looking down at me and
57:38I keep saying
57:41refrigerator because I want her to hold
57:43that thought and the second or third
57:46that they picked out of the audience
57:48they go up there and they point to her
57:52and they ask the question and then they
57:54roll the thing and it comes up a
57:56refrigerator and she wanted the
57:59refrigerator so after we got through
58:02there kind of and she said oh I'd like
58:04to have you around she says there's lots
58:07of things I'd like to win and I said you
58:09already have the technique you already
58:12have the technique uh sometime it works
58:16just on the moment sometime it works on
58:18the moment sometime it takes a little
58:21longer but there is no failure that can
58:24be a delay in results depending what
58:27you're looking for especially if you're
58:29entering contests it may take five or
58:31six weeks before they notify you that
58:34you won so you have all that period in
58:37there to be projecting yes anybody can
58:41do this uh I've had a number of students
58:44here that never had anything and all of
58:47a sudden they want something and I and I
58:50have I should keep all the testimonials
58:54I have head one of the most exciting
58:57testimonials was this young man called
59:00me from
59:01California Mrs hadel if I was there I'd
59:04squeeze you I say oh she said I'm a
59:09student here and I'm limited on funds
59:12and my mother's subsidizing me and I she
59:15keeps saying what are you doing with all
59:17this money you're spending do you know
59:20what she got me for I go home for
59:22Christmas and I'm expecting a big check
59:25what does she give me she gives me a
59:27copy of your book and she tells me why
59:31don't you follow the principles in this
59:34book and she says and earn your own
59:37money she also gave him 100 stamps and
59:41envelopes and cards and because I have a
59:45detailed description in the book how to
59:47enter contest and then she said she said
59:51he said I went up there and I was ticked
59:54at my mother
59:55he said so I read your book and here I'm
59:58looking at the stamps and I'm looking at
1:00:01the uh envelopes and then I get to
1:00:04thinking I read your book again and I
1:00:06thought well if she can do it maybe I
1:00:09can and he says I wanted a new car but
1:00:13he said I wanted
1:00:16$225,000 because for the summer months I
1:00:19wanted to go to Europe so he said I I
1:00:23then entered and he says I was amazed
1:00:27how many contests they have in magazines
1:00:30I went to the library and read all these
1:00:33contests available and I chose the ones
1:00:37like you said the ones that I wanted
1:00:40only the ones that were offering cars
1:00:43and money and he said I want you to know
1:00:48I have my car and a week later
1:00:53$25,000 thank you you thank you thank
1:00:55you if I was there I'd embrace
1:01:02you and thought worms uh well I'm tell
1:01:07you a story something it's a it's a book
1:01:09I read but I don't even know the title
1:01:11or whatever it was but I was
1:01:14intrigued that you can create a thought
1:01:16form and you can it can become so real
1:01:21that someone else can actually see it so
1:01:24I would sit what I would do did a silver
1:01:27dollar and I put it initially this is
1:01:31how I started I put a silver dollar on
1:01:35my uh on table here I looked at it and I
1:01:39looked at it and and all of a sudden
1:01:41it's in my mind's eye so I turn around
1:01:45and I can still see the silver dollar in
1:01:48midair but what I want to do is I want
1:01:51to be able to do this and see if
1:01:54somebody else can see the silver dollar
1:01:57that's not there did just my thought
1:02:00form cting it so I uh when I was on
1:02:04lecture tour I had time sometime during
1:02:06the day to be by myself and this
1:02:09particular
1:02:10day I felt I was sitting in a park bench
1:02:15and uh there was a behind it there was
1:02:18a a mall for shopping and there were
1:02:22people going back and forth and back and
1:02:24forth so what I did and all you can do
1:02:27is close your eyes and you can make it a
1:02:30bird or you can make it anything but
1:02:32this silver dollar is what I wanted to
1:02:34do now I see the silver dollar and I
1:02:39mentally put it on the
1:02:43sidewalk after it's on the sidewalk and
1:02:47I can see it even with my eyes closed
1:02:50then you can open your eyes you can open
1:02:52your eyes and you can look around and
1:02:54you can observe the people and it's
1:02:57still there to me in my mind's eye now
1:03:00will somebody else see
1:03:02that they go back and forth and back and
1:03:05forth all of a sudden a woman comes with
1:03:09a little B A little I'd say about a two
1:03:12or three year old little child and he
1:03:14must have been very very tired of being
1:03:17in his cart because he was hanging onto
1:03:22the cart and they were really slow
1:03:24slowly slowly
1:03:26walking and when they came to where the
1:03:29silver dollar was this kid his eyes lit
1:03:32up and he reaches down and he keeps
1:03:36going like
1:03:38this and his mother said what are you
1:03:42looking at honey and he
1:03:45goes nothing well honey there's nothing
1:03:48there there's nothing there and he's
1:03:52he's trying to pick it up because he
1:03:55sees it and then all of a sudden she
1:03:58there's nothing there honey let's go and
1:04:00she's pushing him on and he looks back
1:04:03at me and sort of Grins and goes back
1:04:06now I'm excited about that oh God I'm
1:04:08excited about that this it's a most
1:04:10wonderful thing and then I thought well
1:04:13I would like an adult see if there are
1:04:16any adults so I just sat there and N now
1:04:20this is an all day session
1:04:22here it was probably an hour or two
1:04:25later I'm still I'm that silver dollar
1:04:28and they just pass it by some people
1:04:30look where they go and some not all of a
1:04:33sudden there's an elderly man that comes
1:04:36and he's walking very slowly probably
1:04:39before his walk for the day and all of a
1:04:42sudden he looks down and he starts
1:04:48smiling he did not pick it up but he
1:04:52kept smiling
1:04:54and all of a sudden he goes by it and he
1:04:57said um uh he Saidi know what you're
1:05:01doing and he says I I don't recall the
1:05:03words that he said I know what you're
1:05:06doing and it's fine or whatever and
1:05:08walked
1:05:09off so again this tells me maybe the
1:05:13elderly and the very young have this
1:05:16capability but at the point at the time
1:05:19I did it I was not young or elderly I
1:05:22was in between so my theory is you can
1:05:26do it if you choose to you can start out
1:05:29on the tea table at night and you can
1:05:32put uh maybe dice there or maybe some
1:05:35item there whatever and if children are
1:05:38coming in you have grandchild maybe or
1:05:41neighbor children go ahead and see if
1:05:44they can see it if they try to pick it
1:05:46up something if it's a toy a red toy or
1:05:49something that attracts this child and I
1:05:53said that would be fantastic then you
1:05:55would know this child can see in another
1:05:59dimension there are many many children
1:06:02that cry at night and say there's a
1:06:04boogeyman there or there's somebody in
1:06:06my room Etc and uh we have some pretty
1:06:09good uh classes now at the colleges that
1:06:13investigate a little more thoroughly on
1:06:16this it's
1:06:17credibility and they are finding that it
1:06:21has uh credit cred credit credence
1:06:24because this can
1:06:26happen but that was my research therapy
1:06:29and uh it seemed like after I do it
1:06:33after I read something and then I do it
1:06:36and then I let it pass I mean I'm not
1:06:39going to keep doing it over and over and
1:06:40over again I let it pass I think okay I
1:06:43mastered that but what useful purpose
1:06:45does it serve unless it amuses me or
1:06:48entertains me and then if it comes up
1:06:52again I may do it again I'm doing it
1:06:55with my grandson my uh well of course
1:06:58he's only a year old but uh I I'll work
1:07:02with that and see what happens
1:07:04there so that's an exciting
1:07:08part now another part that I'd like to
1:07:12share with you and this was a group of
1:07:14people I we had about six or seven and
1:07:17this is a a studio sort of a setup and
1:07:21as I said I experimented with so many
1:07:24many things so many people I didn't even
1:07:28keep track of it it was just one thing
1:07:30right after the
1:07:31other but we were asked uh through six
1:07:36six of us to create a thought form this
1:07:38was in Dallas and we created a thought
1:07:41form and then they had uh we we sat
1:07:45there and had fun we had them six feet
1:07:47tall he's got a British accent he's got
1:07:50one brown eye one blue eye
1:07:54and uh his is what I said what kind of a
1:07:58profession should he have and uh we'll
1:08:01just give it to them and just really
1:08:03really making them
1:08:05handsome and so we had to leave the room
1:08:08completely and get out and read
1:08:11something else and take our minds off of
1:08:13it and then the psychics two two major
1:08:17three well three but two of them were
1:08:18good psychic they came in and sat there
1:08:22and they had to write down what they had
1:08:25seen two of them were on target the
1:08:28other would just had little fleeting
1:08:31things but these these two said he's
1:08:34British they gave him an accent he's got
1:08:37a brown eye and a blue eye and uh he was
1:08:41an architect or whatever we said and so
1:08:45we then question always
1:08:47question uh did they read our minds we
1:08:51didn't telepathically deliberately
1:08:53communicate
1:08:55but they could have read our minds but
1:08:57they saw they saw the person that's
1:09:01another
1:09:03experiment sometime it takes a little
1:09:05longer and what I say is if it's
1:09:07important enough do it if it's not go on
1:09:10to something else that you're interested
1:09:13in but in that period I was interested
1:09:16in it and then I research
1:09:20it when I have physical challenges I
1:09:23have my own own doctor and he's a
1:09:25thought form I'll lay it on the line
1:09:28right away he's a thought form because I
1:09:30can already see him because the typical
1:09:33doctor to me is is in a white coat he's
1:09:36uh has gray hair and little glasses
1:09:40anoscope hanging here that's the typical
1:09:43doctor so that's what he looks like to
1:09:45me and when I have a physical challenge
1:09:48I say oh doctor come on in and when he
1:09:51comes in and I create him and then then
1:09:53I communicate with them all right now I
1:09:56question is there another being that has
1:10:00taken over temporarily and gives me the
1:10:03answers or do I get my own answers I
1:10:06don't know but whatever I get makes
1:10:09sense and I follow it and uh when I had
1:10:13major surgery uh he made more sense than
1:10:17two me two physical doctors did so I
1:10:20rely on him constantly to the this day
1:10:25he's around when necessary and so I I
1:10:28listen to him I mean you know we need to
1:10:31have different uh
1:10:33opinions and uh all the opinions I have
1:10:37I think he's the smartest is it me is a
1:10:40thought form you you'd be you'd make up
1:10:43your mind and you create a thought form
1:10:46that's very simple uh I did research in
1:10:50England for 3 weeks I sat in Seance room
1:10:55specifically because these beings would
1:10:58appear to me with a message sometime
1:11:01they would just float around if someone
1:11:03came in so now I want to
1:11:06know are these thought forms I create by
1:11:10association or are they coming in on
1:11:13their own valtion and if they are is
1:11:15there a message invited inail what's
1:11:18going on my husband went with me and he
1:11:22went to look has his interests were
1:11:25elsewhere so I would Faithfully go up to
1:11:28this place and incidentally if you're
1:11:30ever in England 34 Bal grave
1:11:36Square it is this uh spiritual Frontier
1:11:41Association and it's still
1:11:43there and you can go there when I went
1:11:46there I had to pay
1:11:48$2 when I got into the door and she said
1:11:52which medium
1:11:54do you want to sit
1:11:56with and so you had a choice I didn't
1:11:59know what and she says well why don't
1:12:01you go with Veronica she's on the second
1:12:04floor and in a a half hour situation and
1:12:10you go up there with your ticket and
1:12:12somebody takes it in and then you're in
1:12:14this
1:12:15room with just uh round circle with
1:12:20chairs and then in a few minutes this
1:12:22medium comes out sits there and then
1:12:25closes her eyes and if you you've seen
1:12:27it on television what is this man called
1:12:30John or whatever his name is I don't
1:12:33even recall because to me I'm jaded and
1:12:36it's not interesting anymore but she
1:12:39would come in and she
1:12:41said I have a message from Martha today
1:12:47Martha uh Thomas is with you and he has
1:12:51a message for you
1:12:54okay all right listen uh that electric
1:12:57bill will be taken care of don't worry
1:13:00about
1:13:01that okay the flowers we planted for you
1:13:05they're blooming yes it's our
1:13:08anniversary I'm waiting for you
1:13:12Martha that was
1:13:15it behind the medium I see a little man
1:13:21smoking a pipe
1:13:24and I see the smoke coming up I actually
1:13:30can smell the smoke and it was very
1:13:34pleasant very
1:13:35pleasant and that was my first medium I
1:13:40went to Okay I uh after you have this
1:13:45say this sand or whatever you go
1:13:48downstairs and they have a te- room and
1:13:51in the te- room these women women come
1:13:53down mostly women and they Converse like
1:13:58Harry talked to me you know what did
1:14:00Harry say Etc so I gravitate to the
1:14:05one and uh that is uh I was interested
1:14:10in and then she tells me uh I said did
1:14:13you see your husband no but I know he
1:14:16was there and I she said my flowers are
1:14:19growing you want to come home and see
1:14:22the bushy planted and this is the winter
1:14:25and it's in full bloom and I thought all
1:14:28I could think of when I see things like
1:14:31that I would think of how much energy
1:14:35you were putting into
1:14:37this the medium could see her husband
1:14:41she couldn't but the medium could and
1:14:45knew the enough she was picking her
1:14:48brain picking up her mind and conveying
1:14:52it and she's in hog heaven because she
1:14:56has a message from Harry you know and
1:14:59it's all what I would
1:15:01say her thoughts so she created this
1:15:06thought
1:15:12form attracted you towards the silver
1:15:15method because you already had such a
1:15:16deep understanding of how the mind works
1:15:19uh it was
1:15:20destined uh when my friend we went over
1:15:23to Fort Worth to hear him it was a free
1:15:25lecture and the minute I got in there uh
1:15:29he was Da Da Da Da Da and he had all his
1:15:31charts and things and he has such a
1:15:34heavy accent I couldn't understand him
1:15:38and everybody was wanting to know more
1:15:40about it and he was so so so well the Le
1:15:44you know
1:15:45the he was a Leo and a master number and
1:15:49he's up there and very very proud during
1:15:52the break I nuded him and I said look
1:15:54boy I said you're talking too fast can't
1:16:00understand you he said thank you and
1:16:02then he talked slow because then after
1:16:07that I thought now this guy uh would
1:16:10listen to me because if he had even as a
1:16:13Leo and a master numbered he would
1:16:15listen to my uh suggestion and talk slow
1:16:20and then even during the break he am I
1:16:22talking
1:16:23slow enough yes thank you well I was
1:16:27impressed with him I asked him home to
1:16:30dinner and when he came back he said he
1:16:32had to open the Dallas area and he
1:16:35needed somebody to help him and uh the
1:16:38man the metaphysical butterfly
1:16:41volunteered me oh she's at home she
1:16:45doesn't have any work uh she can help
1:16:47I'll help I'll help and there were two
1:16:50Airline stewards and she was secretary
1:16:52to the on the
1:16:54attorney okay so now we're going to open
1:16:56the areas and I this is so foreign to me
1:17:01this is so foreign to me all of so I
1:17:07said okay we couldn't put ads in the
1:17:09paper at that time
1:17:11because uh it's mind control me uh meant
1:17:15that they were going to influence people
1:17:17and we could not put ads in the paper
1:17:20and uh he should have changed it by the
1:17:22of the last but he was so down down I
1:17:25wanted to be mind control so they can
1:17:28control their mind not we control their
1:17:30mind but that's the way we left it so my
1:17:34friend had friends in the churches and
1:17:36so forth so now we're going to have an
1:17:39introductory lecture well at that time I
1:17:43was quite what you want to call popular
1:17:46things a lot of people and I knew one
1:17:50young man that had 's was very very very
1:17:54wealthy he had a uh a building with a
1:17:59big dormatory and I called him and I
1:18:02said can we have this room free
1:18:04everything was free when I called them
1:18:07so so Jose is going to have this lecture
1:18:11there all right we go there and uh there
1:18:14about 150 people there from the
1:18:17different churches just uh they were
1:18:19conned and saying come and learn to use
1:18:22more of your mind
1:18:24so now we have we're going to register
1:18:28people and I look at josea and there's
1:18:31120 or 30 people and he he I said how
1:18:35many people do you want for your first
1:18:38program he said what do you mean and I
1:18:41said how many people do you want for
1:18:42your first
1:18:44program and uh he said well let's let's
1:18:47have 83 you know I says you want 83 okay
1:18:51we'll have 83 and and he walks off and
1:18:53you wonder what the hell's going on all
1:18:56right now the next night he's going to
1:18:59have his class and they're registering
1:19:02and they're calling me for registrations
1:19:04and so forth and all of a sudden uh
1:19:08we're there's 82 in the class and a Jose
1:19:11sitting there and I he we'll get started
1:19:14and I said no there's one more that has
1:19:16to
1:19:18come I did not know any better I decided
1:19:23that he wanted 83 he's got to have 83
1:19:26and this man I'm sorry and he walked in
1:19:27the door and there were
1:19:2983 and I Jose look well see this I had
1:19:33nothing to do with this it was
1:19:36all something I mean guidance was
1:19:40helping him all the time all the time
1:19:45and when I got uh to where he says you
1:19:47have to open the Chicago area I'm not
1:19:50going to open that Chicago I don't I
1:19:52want to fly I don't like to fly at that
1:19:54time I was afraid of flying that was
1:19:57before I had mind control you know and
1:19:59so I said no get somebody else and Jose
1:20:02would always say we'll talk about it
1:20:05we'll talk about it and that meant to me
1:20:08I'm I'm already know what I'm going to
1:20:10do I'm going to influence you you know
1:20:12that's a good one to use we'll talk
1:20:14about
1:20:16it
1:20:18so I uh this is this is the way we work
1:20:23and then I said that day he said how can
1:20:26you get someone to help you just sit in
1:20:29your chair and I say somebody some place
1:20:32has got to help me hey somebody
1:20:35someplace has got to help me come on
1:20:37help me phone
1:20:39rings uh yeah Mrs yes
1:20:44well I'm Alice so and so and I live in
1:20:48Chicago and I just read an article about
1:20:51you in one of the magazines
1:20:53me uh how can I get Jose up
1:20:57here and I said well I'm PR for him and
1:21:01I'm supposed to come up and open the
1:21:03area uh get a suitable meeting place and
1:21:06suitable and put ads in the paper and so
1:21:08forth you don't have to do a thing I'll
1:21:10do it all for you I represent a shoe
1:21:13Manufacturing Company I'll get the go
1:21:16the the auditorium free and what else do
1:21:20you want I mean all over the phone 5
1:21:23minutes everything was done I Didn't Do
1:21:25It guides were doing it guides were
1:21:29helping me she read my article I wrote
1:21:32for
1:21:33magazines uh and she read this article
1:21:36and all I'm talking about is Jose I said
1:21:39this is so fabulous this is such a great
1:21:42great program and I had the automobile
1:21:45accident and I was saying I mean it was
1:21:49just amazing what happened and she was
1:21:52impressed wanted it and so she did
1:21:55everything everything and it happened
1:21:57again in Detroit oh yes oh yeah tell us
1:22:00about that uhhuh uh the next time I I
1:22:03did go to Chicago because my husband
1:22:06said well you had mind control how long
1:22:08now why don't you practice it you know
1:22:10but I was so busy in other areas and yes
1:22:13then I learned to fly I mean I was
1:22:15comfortable flying and then the next
1:22:18time that was directly after Chicago he
1:22:21would come and he would always say they
1:22:23tell me they tell me that I must now go
1:22:28to Chicago I mean to Detroit and that's
1:22:31very T very T night he tells me now I
1:22:35don't want to go to Detroit and I'm
1:22:36saying they're riding in the street they
1:22:38have carf you don't want to go to they
1:22:41tell me so I thought in your book you
1:22:44talk about how one of the silv method
1:22:46techniques saved your life in an
1:22:47accident could you tell us more about
1:22:50that okay sure
1:22:54okay uh it was New Year's Eve and it was
1:22:58in uh Dallas and one of my friends had a
1:23:01New Year's in
1:23:03party and I don't really care for
1:23:06drinking and neither did my husband so
1:23:09there was some punch bowl there and
1:23:12everything so after we left that night I
1:23:16had I think Silva method uh program I
1:23:20think 3 months earlier
1:23:23and in the program Jose was saying you
1:23:27can stop the bleeding or if you have a
1:23:30physical challenge Remember When it
1:23:33Hurts there's
1:23:34pulsations and the more you think about
1:23:36the more it hurts but when you talk
1:23:39about healing then it feels like warm
1:23:43waves of water and then you give the
1:23:47body or the place an opportunity to heal
1:23:51well when I heard that and especially
1:23:54from my background of going into almost
1:23:58traumatic Panic anytime something
1:24:02happened to me I thought well I I doubt
1:24:05that that's I doubt that this missed it
1:24:09but now here is New Year's Eve we're at
1:24:13this party on the way home and it had
1:24:16turned slick and it was sley and we were
1:24:20crossing a bridge and uh Dallas
1:24:22incidentally from Irving's 27 miles from
1:24:26my door to her door we're on this bridge
1:24:29and all of a sudden there's a Corvette
1:24:32come up and just rammed into us and I
1:24:35remember his coming up the hood of the
1:24:38car and seeing it well the next thing I
1:24:41knew I was on the floorboard and I was
1:24:43dring in my blood and there is I was
1:24:47trying as fast I mean it was just
1:24:49gushing because this nose here is uh
1:24:53it's not plastic surgery but it's in
1:24:55good running condition and it was uh had
1:24:59to be taken care of but anyway here I'm
1:25:02drowning in my blood and I'm pushing a
1:25:06panic button and all of a sudden it
1:25:09seemed like I heard Jose perhaps it was
1:25:13a thought part whatever but I stop the
1:25:17bleeding stop the
1:25:19bleeding and when I heard that I yel
1:25:23stopped the bleeding and all of a sudden
1:25:26it seemed to dry up and I was able first
1:25:29there was I couldn't breathe through my
1:25:31nose and all of a sudden I was able to
1:25:36swallow and and there was no more
1:25:38blood when we got to the U emergency
1:25:43room uh the two people that were there
1:25:47the doctors that looked at me the first
1:25:51thing they said when they saw him was I
1:25:54wonder what she looks like so that ought
1:25:57to tell you that this nose was
1:25:59absolutely pushed in and uh look at her
1:26:03bleeding has
1:26:04stopped and so then they made a decision
1:26:07what else is wrong with her Etc she
1:26:10needs to have this plastic surgery done
1:26:14and evaluating and the first thing I
1:26:16said to my husband is call Jose call
1:26:20Jose that's the first I thought did he
1:26:24telepathically communicate were my
1:26:26guides I don't know but call Jose it's
1:26:30now 3:00 in the morning Jose is sound
1:26:34asleep with his wife Pat calls and he
1:26:37picks up the phone he said she was in an
1:26:40accident and what do you do and Jose
1:26:44said uh I will get on it immediately and
1:26:48call me in the morning at
1:26:519:00 and that's all and I'm conscious
1:26:55now and I'm laying in the bed because
1:26:58also had a my back Challenge and several
1:27:02other uh serious things the next morning
1:27:06when he talked to
1:27:08Jose uh Jose went across new AA lar he
1:27:14lived in Laro he went over to new
1:27:17aelo and at that point in his research
1:27:21he had all these Mexican women come up
1:27:26cuz I was over there uh he rented a
1:27:29hallway in an old dilapidated building
1:27:32and there was nothing but metal chairs
1:27:34up there and these women would come up
1:27:38and Jose had a chalkboard and he would
1:27:40teach you self uh mind mind control how
1:27:45to control yourself how to control your
1:27:48environment how to help yourself help
1:27:51your family
1:27:53and they were so grateful all of this
1:27:55was free and it was his research so now
1:27:58he gets over there and these women all
1:28:02come at his beckon call and said we have
1:28:05an emergency here and we need your help
1:28:09they came there at that Loft and they
1:28:13projected he put me on the screen and
1:28:16later on he told me this put me on the
1:28:19screen and they detected abnormalities
1:28:22like you're like you were taught in Sila
1:28:25and they came up with the thought that
1:28:28this leg here uh he said he was going to
1:28:31have to
1:28:32um uh put it in the cast and Jose said
1:28:36don't let him put it in the cast because
1:28:39they'll cut off the circulation because
1:28:42it's going to swell don't let them do
1:28:44that that's what he told Patty I'm not
1:28:47going to uh dis disrupt your um doctor
1:28:53but uh she's strong enough to tell him
1:28:55not to put it in the cast and we're
1:28:58we're we're going to help her every way
1:29:00we can well to make a long story short
1:29:04when he comes in and he says you need
1:29:05the cast and I said there's no way no
1:29:08way well why I'm I and he argued and he
1:29:11said she's not cooperating with us to my
1:29:14husband and my husband said it's her
1:29:17foot and whatever she says you listen to
1:29:22her yeah I have to listen to her and he
1:29:24made a joke out of it so we finished
1:29:28that and um what happened then was I
1:29:32then was convinced and I I think I set
1:29:35this up because in the past I was afraid
1:29:39anything bled I'd bleed to death it
1:29:41wouldn't stop bleeding that was my my
1:29:45concept now I knew after this program I
1:29:50you could stop the bleeding you can the
1:29:52pain that is so once so intense can be
1:29:56taken down and in waves of warmth you
1:29:59can have healing and you can do this in
1:30:02childbirth and in anything of course
1:30:05right now there's sophisticated methods
1:30:07and it doesn't need drugs all the time
1:30:10you are in CR mind over matter if
1:30:14there's any way to explain it so this is
1:30:18what
1:30:20happened I'm one of these people that
1:30:22are busy in all different prog in all
1:30:26different areas and I let my physical
1:30:28body
1:30:30go I wasn't paying attention to it I was
1:30:33having challenges um uh different
1:30:36challenges in the in the female areas
1:30:39and I just never I have never really and
1:30:43truly uh been keen on doctors they seem
1:30:46to
1:30:47misdiagnose or uh they're just
1:30:49practicing on me and they they try to
1:30:52refer to in one of the other patients I
1:30:54had this I'm not that other patient I'm
1:30:57me I'm uniquely individual and this is I
1:31:00still have it to this day they only will
1:31:04prescribe what they feel or what they
1:31:07know about and what do you know how much
1:31:09is too much when they prescribe pills
1:31:12for you how much times are you doing too
1:31:15much so these things I mean this is one
1:31:18of my HS but it was time and there was
1:31:22something I couldn't control I'm sitting
1:31:24in this chair right over
1:31:27here and I H what I
1:31:30call a doctor from that other
1:31:34dimension I put him it's his thought
1:31:37form is what it is cuz I've created him
1:31:40and I put him in a robe and he looks
1:31:42like a doctor and I he can't and I said
1:31:46okay I need my doctor today and all he
1:31:49said
1:31:50was you you have let this go on too long
1:31:54you need to have this taken care of
1:31:58surgically and I will help you and
1:32:02that's what he said when I heard that I
1:32:06made an
1:32:07appointment to the doctor Lo one of the
1:32:10local doctors here in curn and he said
1:32:14um uh he did a uh an x-ray and he looked
1:32:19at it and I came in he said you have a
1:32:22mass here that's on top of your bladder
1:32:26and it has to be removed but he said I
1:32:30see a lot of gray areas and it's maybe
1:32:33cancer I cannot remove it we don't have
1:32:37the facilities you're going to go to
1:32:39this cancer research clinic in
1:32:42Dallas and so that was his diagnosis and
1:32:47he released me and he said okay just go
1:32:50over there but do do have it done so I
1:32:53call this doctor and his name is Dr
1:32:57Jacobs and I thought okay I come back
1:33:00home and I talk to my little doctor my
1:33:04thought form I thought it was and he
1:33:07tells me he said okay I'm going to be
1:33:11here with you all the time but let's
1:33:13have some humor he said let's have some
1:33:16humor everybody's so serious cancer you
1:33:19don't have cancer let's have have some
1:33:21of know so I get over to this Dr Jacobs
1:33:26and I come in and he's a very uh Stern I
1:33:30mean here's a doctor the doctor IM means
1:33:33the white coat and Mrs Hansel polite
1:33:36informal so forth and the first thing he
1:33:40does he has my x-rays on the wall there
1:33:45and he said and here is the growth and I
1:33:48looked at him and I said is it a boy or
1:33:51a girl
1:33:52and he looked at me and he said Mrs
1:33:57Hamel that's that's a
1:34:01tumor I said well haven't you ever read
1:34:04the national inquire I said space aliens
1:34:08are coming down constantly impregnating
1:34:13women that was supposed to be a joke but
1:34:16he didn't think it was funny you know
1:34:19and I said then I used to joke time joke
1:34:21time then you yeah cuz this is a pure
1:34:25idiot I mean here's a total
1:34:29stranger six 70 years old going to have
1:34:31a baby you know so anyway we get into
1:34:34his office and he said um it will have
1:34:39to be removed and uh I'm doing and he
1:34:42said it might be cancerous because I see
1:34:45all the gray areas here and I'm having
1:34:48to have another doctor with me and
1:34:51anesis and so forth so it'll take and
1:34:54this is uh the early
1:34:57end last of April August July it was in
1:35:02the middle of July and August I'm the
1:35:05key speaker at the convention and
1:35:07there's no way I'm going to uh tell Jose
1:35:10I can't make it
1:35:13so we're sitting in his office and he
1:35:16says well let's see I think I can get
1:35:18all this done in about 8 to 10 days and
1:35:20I'll let you know
1:35:22I said no you won't I said get on the
1:35:25phone and make it happen now and he kind
1:35:29of looked at me like a little kid and he
1:35:32got out his book and he called the
1:35:34doctor he said uh this is Wednesday can
1:35:37you H can you help me with surgery
1:35:40Friday and he got the
1:35:43anesthesist and Friday was when I was
1:35:46going to have this surgery not nine days
1:35:48later because I wanted to heal here
1:35:52so he said yes Mrs hon this is done and
1:35:56I said what else do I need to know and
1:35:58he said well you have to give me
1:36:01permission to give you uh blood
1:36:04transfusions because at your age uh we
1:36:07have big problems with blood and they
1:36:09bleed intently and so I have I said no
1:36:13I'm not going to sign that I can stop
1:36:16the bleeding and when I said that he
1:36:21thought I'm pure nuts and uh he he said
1:36:25well Mrs and I said okay I said I'll
1:36:28sign that release but you don't need it
1:36:30I'll stop the bleeding and as I walked
1:36:33out the door he just shook his head and
1:36:36I know he ran to his other doctors to
1:36:39say I have a pure idiot here
1:36:41today Friday morning my husband and I
1:36:46and uh the clinic over there that uh
1:36:48takes care of cancer patients they had
1:36:51have a motel there so we spend the motel
1:36:54and the night at the motel and all I did
1:36:57was sit in my chair all night and talked
1:37:00to my medic my doctor and he says it's
1:37:03going to be all right we're going to
1:37:04help you you're going to have the
1:37:06healing and you're going to be uh the
1:37:08speaker in the radio on 11th okay so
1:37:13now uh when I they they do the surgery
1:37:17there's no cancer because I never
1:37:19learned to develop cancer
1:37:22oh when he said do you have cancer and I
1:37:25said no I never learned to develop it
1:37:28because Jose says this all the time and
1:37:30it's you never learned to develop cancer
1:37:33and that's been a thought with me every
1:37:35time somebody says she has cancer or he
1:37:38has cancer you know what I say I never
1:37:41learned to develop it so this is what I
1:37:44tell this doctor now I'm completely a
1:37:47nut well to me now after the surgery I
1:37:52open my eyes my husband is standing here
1:37:56the
1:37:57anesthesist and this two doctors are
1:38:00here and the nesis at there and he said
1:38:04we want to know how you stop the
1:38:06bleeding you did not bleed we cannot
1:38:10believe that you could stop this and I
1:38:13said what I said it's mind over matter
1:38:16and he said how do you teach that and I
1:38:19and I said well let me tell you what
1:38:21happened to me I take this class and we
1:38:25could stop bleeding we we can do so many
1:38:28things we're not aware of he said that
1:38:31is beautiful that is beautiful and I
1:38:33said yes and what you're going to do the
1:38:36next time you get an elderly patient and
1:38:40you're you're looking for them to bleed
1:38:43all you're going to say to them is she's
1:38:46not going to bleed and then you can stop
1:38:49the bleeding don't you know how powerful
1:38:52you are and they all shook their heads
1:38:54and went out so now I said and there
1:38:58were TW all over me I mean it was and I
1:39:01said who needs this so there was a
1:39:04little uh packet up here and uh he said
1:39:07now anytime you have a HT you press it
1:39:11and yourself medicate
1:39:13yourself well I thought I can medicate
1:39:16myself and be a zombie or I can get out
1:39:20of here
1:39:21I wanted to get out of there as fast as
1:39:23I could so the next and I never used it
1:39:27if see what happens when you have
1:39:29something it comes in segments and
1:39:32you're aware of this in segments if you
1:39:35have a toothache it's pulsation all
1:39:38right the body does the same thing when
1:39:40you're cut and it's trying to heal so
1:39:43let it heal and so I'm healing healing
1:39:46healing healing and that's all I thought
1:39:49about was healing the body never use
1:39:52that
1:39:53thing next morning he came up he shook
1:39:55the bag and he's looking at his monitor
1:39:59and uh he calls the nurse in and he said
1:40:02did you change her he uh did you change
1:40:05this her medication and he it's not
1:40:08didn't nothing happen and she said no
1:40:11doctor we haven't and he said he said
1:40:14haven't you use that thing I said no I
1:40:18said I want to get out of here and I
1:40:20wanna be comfortable and I want to be in
1:40:24control and see and uh when you're
1:40:27taking drugs you're never in control
1:40:29when you're drinking you're never in
1:40:30control and I've always got to be in
1:40:33control so he just shook his head and he
1:40:35said well honey uh will'll just and they
1:40:39came in and pulled out all these plugs
1:40:42and things and the next day I went
1:40:49home and these are books here that you
1:40:53can get at any one of the stores walm
1:40:57might might be an example and I made my
1:41:00own and then down here it was I put
1:41:03their names and started
1:41:06out with U I would
1:41:09say pce things in that I felt that would
1:41:13be uplifting and then always refer to
1:41:17when you're in a real real down
1:41:20thinkinking mood
1:41:21read the Des and then points to P so my
1:41:25first question on uh the first part on
1:41:28how to become a winner in your process
1:41:30is about selecting it now do you think a
1:41:35lot of people do not get what they want
1:41:38out of life because they don't know what
1:41:40they
1:41:40want this is true yeahuh yeah some
1:41:44people uh go with a tide or they're
1:41:48limited on on a church
1:41:51Dogma that if you want something uh it's
1:41:55the work of the devil and you're not you
1:41:57don't deserve it a lot of it depends on
1:42:01what your background was what culture
1:42:04you came from what was your upbringing
1:42:08and uh you have to spend maybe like I
1:42:10said yesterday from 1 to 7 you're subed
1:42:15to your parents' Concepts and things
1:42:18from that point on you have to make your
1:42:21and then you're then you go in and your
1:42:23peers I mean you know that's important
1:42:26uh when is it that you can really say I
1:42:29want to be
1:42:31myself and that's when you decide what
1:42:34is it that you want we're always
1:42:37influenced that's a given and so after
1:42:41you're influenced what direction do you
1:42:43want to go what's important to you the
1:42:45second one is about
1:42:47projecting uh and is projecting just a
1:42:52form of visualization and uh yes yes
1:42:55you're
1:42:56projecting you have projected now uh
1:42:59what is it that you want so now you're
1:43:01going to project it someplace and
1:43:04projecting would be to see it to see it
1:43:07to visualize it to make a little
1:43:09scenario of it uh some in some cases if
1:43:14you say I can't visualize I teach them
1:43:17how to
1:43:18visualize and uh that is just I give him
1:43:21an orange and I said you see the orange
1:43:24and then see the orange okay see the sun
1:43:26kissed on the orange now close your eyes
1:43:30and see the
1:43:32orange I said that's as simple as it is
1:43:35because I'm say I can't visualize but
1:43:38you can it's a mental thing and so when
1:43:42you are projecting it you are
1:43:44visualizing it and visualizing it means
1:43:47putting it in a situation like a car
1:43:50you're sitting in the car you smell new
1:43:53car color of the car standing by the car
1:43:57that's visualization and you're always
1:43:59in that picture it's all about expecting
1:44:02it what does that really mean is it like
1:44:06how do you expect
1:44:08something how do I expect something it's
1:44:11a given you just uh know it's
1:44:14coming never doubt it if uh something
1:44:18comes to your mind or or you and don't
1:44:21tell anybody because when you tell
1:44:24people they have a negative condemnation
1:44:27and they say what makes her think she's
1:44:29going to win that now in my case because
1:44:33I won everything it was to my advantage
1:44:37because they'd say she's going to win it
1:44:39and so they gave me more energy but if
1:44:42you are surrounded by negative people
1:44:45then I would not tell anybody I would
1:44:48keep it to myself and I I would expect
1:44:51it I know it would come and then if I
1:44:54got
1:44:55disappointed and this is very common I
1:44:58would say no there's just there's no
1:45:01failure there's a delay in
1:45:03results and then continue to do that
1:45:06because sometime things that you are
1:45:09expecting uh take a little longer than
1:45:11you
1:45:12anticipated now uh all of that makes a
1:45:16lot of sense but a lot of people will
1:45:19still have that nagging out they will
1:45:21say I've tried it uh but I'm not
1:45:25successful I'm not getting what I want
1:45:27out of life I'm still not a winner what
1:45:30do you say to those people that have
1:45:32listen to everything you have just said
1:45:35but then come back and say I'm still not
1:45:37where I want I'm still not getting what
1:45:39I want okay what you shared with me the
1:45:43one thing when they say this I'm trying
1:45:46to do this I said honey you can try and
1:45:50try and try the rest of your life that
1:45:54to me is negative what you you take try
1:45:57out of your vocabulary it's coming it's
1:46:01coming and that's it trying means you
1:46:04keep on
1:46:05trying that's
1:46:07negative I never try I do
1:46:11something very very cool do you have any
1:46:13other follow
1:46:15question um you don't ever try you
1:46:18do now
1:46:22hold on I just Mike a followup question
1:46:25this should be in your voice though
1:46:26because every else is in your voice but
1:46:28what is the good way of building up your
1:46:29degree
1:46:30of um oh yeah no in the beginning it's
1:46:34hard to expect no I think that's an ex
1:46:37yeah so to somebody that is just
1:46:40learning how to become a winner how to
1:46:42use this system to get what they want
1:46:45would you recommend that they start with
1:46:47smaller easier contest does that even
1:46:50exist this is there uh yeah how how do
1:46:52you recommend you get started with this
1:46:56uh if you are especially if you have not
1:46:59been a winner before okay uh it all
1:47:02depends on the
1:47:03individual if they think small then they
1:47:07get small things and if this makes you
1:47:10feel comfortable then start out uh I
1:47:14started out with an outboard motor that
1:47:17was the thing then I went back to just
1:47:20bik bicycles and roller skates and
1:47:23footballs and little stuff that the made
1:47:26the kids Happy And then all of a sudden
1:47:29when we had a decision uh let's let's
1:47:33project for somebody to uh to pay for
1:47:36our vacation every year so we never paid
1:47:40for our vacation so we went to uh dude
1:47:44ranches to New York to Europe uh to
1:47:48Disney World twice and so those were
1:47:51leading up to it well then as you win
1:47:54you I I guess you'd say you get more
1:47:58confidence so if the individual feels
1:48:01like hey that sounds
1:48:03overwhelming I think I'm just going to
1:48:05predict for something small then do it
1:48:08and then build up to it every person is
1:48:12different and so that's what you do I
1:48:15mean I just happened my husband happened
1:48:17wanted an outboard motor and that was
1:48:20the first thing that I thought of okay
1:48:22we'll win it for what technique do you
1:48:25recommend to overcome negative thinking
1:48:27as you mentioned a lot of people
1:48:29especially in their first seven years uh
1:48:32are conditioned in a way that they need
1:48:34to unlearn or remember what's the best
1:48:38way to start doing that okay fortunately
1:48:41today there are very there's quite a
1:48:45number of books The Power of Positive
1:48:48Thinking is one you you are what you
1:48:51think Proverbs and uh what there's a
1:48:54magazine now a national magazine and
1:48:57it's called Woman's World and it comes
1:49:00out once a week that is the most
1:49:05powerful
1:49:06positive uh book that is available today
1:49:10for anybody even my son reads it and in
1:49:14this book uh on every uh every other
1:49:17page there thoughts for the day that are
1:49:20very very powerful on love on protection
1:49:25on energy every everything they have it
1:49:29may
1:49:30be repetitious but it's uplifting so we
1:49:35look forward to that book every time I
1:49:37get it I give it to my daughter-in-law
1:49:39I'd have a copy here but it's Woman's
1:49:42World okay and I can't say enough about
1:49:45that and you have also mentioned earlier
1:49:49today the law of Attraction which is
1:49:51very similar or identical to the system
1:49:55that you talked about a long time ago is
1:49:57there a difference between the law of
1:49:59attraction is there something specific
1:50:01uh uh that people uh should do to
1:50:04activate it or is it everything that you
1:50:06already mentioned in your four-step
1:50:09process I don't think it's anything new
1:50:12or anything different uh the law of
1:50:15attraction is
1:50:17desire the minute that you Des desire
1:50:20something what you're doing you're
1:50:22coning up energy and and then you're
1:50:25projecting out energy and so that's it's
1:50:29not a big secret but many people don't
1:50:32realize how powerful thinking is so
1:50:36desire is a criteria what one of the
1:50:39things that you mentioned just now is
1:50:41that desire is related to energy and
1:50:44everything is energy and vibrations and
1:50:46the more energy you send out the more
1:50:49comes back so what specific technique
1:50:52would you recommend for somebody to
1:50:54raise their energy because it sounds
1:50:57like it's all related to how much energy
1:50:59a person can send out that's a very good
1:51:03good question because one it follows
1:51:08desire you have a desire and if it's a
1:51:11positive desire and it can be negative
1:51:14too but how much time are you spending
1:51:19on that how many how often are you
1:51:22thinking about it thought becomes things
1:51:26and another thing that I need to point
1:51:29out and that is when you do something
1:51:32with
1:51:33emotion
1:51:35emotion brings it faster draws it faster
1:51:39to you emotion is uh well what you do on
1:51:43emotion and you can watch a person when
1:51:47they cry or when they say it or when
1:51:49they
1:51:50curse and when they get angry they're
1:51:53angry the motion is
1:51:56intense and usually when they get very
1:51:58very angry and then something happens
1:52:01because they're so angry that they don't
1:52:05lose they lose the fact that they're
1:52:07working with an instrument that could be
1:52:10and cut their hand off or something this
1:52:12is energy and I think there is a
1:52:15statistic on it more accidents in this
1:52:19entire world are caused when somebody is
1:52:22really enraged in aner energy
1:52:25anger because then they they don't look
1:52:28at anything else they're so caught up in
1:52:31anger and so when you are projecting and
1:52:35you have energy like I said you can even
1:52:38taste it you can smell it and that's
1:52:42energy going into a car with the new
1:52:46smell that's a perfect example of using
1:52:51this more more energy because now you're
1:52:54experiencing it see we're touchy feeling
1:52:58smelly people I mean that brings on more
1:53:02energy for us so if you have the
1:53:06opportunity especially if you want a car
1:53:08or a new house you go into a new house
1:53:12and you can smell the new house because
1:53:14the lumber is still
1:53:16exposed and so that would be more
1:53:20effective or you if you find an old
1:53:22house get into it roam around and this
1:53:25is my place that's how I chose when we
1:53:29were working going in different areas
1:53:32when my husband was traveling I would go
1:53:34to rent a place I would go in and my
1:53:38husband said check it out and I would go
1:53:40through the house this doesn't smell
1:53:43good and I'd
1:53:44leave so you become I mean there all
1:53:47those little things that that you have
1:53:50at your disposal that you can utilize
1:53:54and so this is energy this is energy
1:53:58direct into it with emotion okay thank
1:54:00you another question that I have is that
1:54:03uh especially the positive thinking part
1:54:06all starts in your mind now a lot of
1:54:08people have a negative mind uh how do
1:54:12you get how do you just suddenly cancel
1:54:15that uh and I'm asking that because a
1:54:17lot of people uh that I talked to they
1:54:20Contin they just say they are not even
1:54:22the master of their own mind how do you
1:54:25become the master of your own
1:54:27mind desire nobody can do it for you you
1:54:32can point it out and Dr Murphy had a
1:54:35good saying uh after I met him and he
1:54:38sent me his books and I would when I
1:54:41called him I said Murphy I said you have
1:54:45all he sent about 13 books I said you
1:54:47say the same thing over and over and
1:54:49over over again you saying the same
1:54:52anecdotes can't you think of something
1:54:54different and he roared with laughter
1:54:57and you know what he told me he said you
1:55:00know something if they read it 42 times
1:55:05it may sink in and they'll get it I
1:55:09think that's profound because sometimes
1:55:13you have to read it over and over and
1:55:15over again until you say oh this makes
1:55:18sense then you change nobody can change
1:55:21for you you can't tell people the change
1:55:24you can't tell people you're too
1:55:25negative nothing is going to happen to
1:55:27you they don't believe it until you give
1:55:30them something and they look at it and
1:55:33might have to read it 42 times and then
1:55:37they'll get it okay hopefully you don't
1:55:39have to read it 42 times but Murphy was
1:55:41the one that said it I call it Murphy's
1:55:44Law now another question that I have is
1:55:47after you had mastered this the how to
1:55:50attract anything you want always you
1:55:54then went on to study the silver method
1:55:57now what was it that led you to why did
1:55:59you continue uh studying and what was it
1:56:02specifically about the silver method uh
1:56:05that why did you choose to learn it
1:56:07because you already were a master of
1:56:10your domain why did you continue
1:56:13specifically with the silver method I
1:56:15guess I told you that earlier because
1:56:18when I first met Jose I was very
1:56:20impressed with him I wanted to know more
1:56:24about it and then when I went into the
1:56:27program as it is today and learned
1:56:30techniques things I didn't really know
1:56:33uh when you're reading that chart brain
1:56:37how the brain functions valuable
1:56:40fantastic information but the
1:56:43information uh when you can when you can
1:56:47change energy and you can stop the
1:56:50bleeding uh this was profound where else
1:56:53would I've ever gotten that
1:56:55technique and so that's why I was so
1:56:57grateful for it and I became his PR just
1:57:02because he impressed me with the
1:57:05knowledge he had and was sharing it with
1:57:08everybody wonderful one it was a
1:57:11completely uplifting experience for
1:57:17me uh life is a life is either a daring
1:57:21Adventure or nothing and I guess that's
1:57:24been been my philosophy in contesting
1:57:28and then all of a sudden I I win
1:57:31everything I possibly could win or want
1:57:34and then I'm
1:57:35bored so what's
1:57:38next that's when I got serious serious
1:57:43about what makes me tick click and get
1:57:45sick what makes you get that way why are
1:57:48you that way why why are people
1:57:50different I I got so intense inquisitive
1:57:54about that then I started on a whole new
1:57:59world of of
1:58:08researching this part I probably was
1:58:10about four or five years old when I
1:58:13started seeing in other dimensions and
1:58:16my mother insisted that I was lying or I
1:58:19was the work of the devil not to tell
1:58:21anybody and then uh did you read my
1:58:24story about my
1:58:25grandfather uh when U he died and I
1:58:29insisted remember grandmother said the
1:58:32Angel is coming to get him because it
1:58:33was a picture of an Angel uh all over
1:58:36the houses there the Catholic and so um
1:58:40I assumed this angel with this huge Wing
1:58:43was coming he's dying now to come and
1:58:45get him and I insisted on being in the
1:58:49room when all the family was around
1:58:52praying and the priest blast rights and
1:58:54things and I'm looking for this Angel
1:58:57but all of a sudden all these people
1:59:01appear and he sits up in bed which is I
1:59:05mean I'm
1:59:06seeing it's just I'm just standing there
1:59:10amazed and then he smiles and he walks
1:59:13through the wall with all these people
1:59:16and he's still laying on the bed now I'm
1:59:18utterly confused
1:59:19us and I and I tell we after we got out
1:59:24of the room and my mother hush hush hush
1:59:25you know be quiet and so forth and uh I
1:59:28said but Grandpa didn't have an angel
1:59:31you know and she he said don't you tell
1:59:33Grandma that he didn't have an angel I
1:59:36said but he went off with all these old
1:59:38men so what I was seeing you know was
1:59:40this spirit so he didn't
1:59:43change and then he was still laying
1:59:46there and then that was it and so that
1:59:48was my my first experience and then
1:59:51being squatched um later on when I was
1:59:5417 and I had romatic fever and I was in
1:59:58bed and I
2:00:00um miserable miserable and all of a
2:00:04sudden when the uh the doctor would come
2:00:07to give me medication and uh when he
2:00:10told me that there was nothing else he
2:00:12could do well that night uh everybody's
2:00:16I had brother and sister and my mother
2:00:18and dad were sleeping
2:00:19and I was laying there and I said okay I
2:00:23said I don't want to be here stay here
2:00:26and be a burden to anybody and I said
2:00:30and if I committed I didn't commit a
2:00:32mortal sin but a venial sin because I
2:00:34looked see I was 17 and I looked at this
2:00:37kid with curly hair and I had visions of
2:00:40of
2:00:42a love and romance let's put it that way
2:00:45and I said if that's considered a Vil
2:00:47sin then that that's okay I'll go to
2:00:50hell temporarily see I was still inbound
2:00:53in this thing and then this being
2:00:55appeared here this this picture this is
2:00:58the being that appeared to me and I
2:01:02could see him and he said what makes you
2:01:05think you can die and I said well I
2:01:08don't and we were had a conversation and
2:01:11he said no no no no he said you came in
2:01:13here to do many many many
2:01:16things and then he he said you're healed
2:01:18and he
2:01:19left and I and then I yelled at my
2:01:22mother and I said come in uh this man's
2:01:25been in here and all she said was you
2:01:28had a fever again and put the
2:01:30thermometer in my no no no he said I was
2:01:33healed and then she pulled back the
2:01:35covers and my legs you know romatic
2:01:37fever swells the joints and she saids
2:01:40now you she said that was just a good
2:01:43dream and the next morning and this was
2:01:46a month later I got up up got up and
2:01:51went out in the kitchen and I says I'm
2:01:53ready to go back to school now what do
2:01:56you mean by um personalities you want to
2:01:58communicate
2:02:00with uh there were um a number well uh
2:02:04for instance I um read about Norman
2:02:07Vincent Peele power positive thinking I
2:02:11was very impressed with his book in fact
2:02:14he was the one instrumental in me
2:02:17getting started
2:02:19uh when I first read his book The Power
2:02:21of Positive Thinking what he said you
2:02:23can have anything you want Pro provided
2:02:27you know what it is and see yourself is
2:02:29already having it and when I when I read
2:02:33that and of course that's in my book uh
2:02:36you know the name it claim it game and I
2:02:39gave him credit and I thought well maybe
2:02:41I'd like to meet him
2:02:43someday well it didn't happen that I met
2:02:46him personally but he Conta conted me
2:02:50and he would write articles about me in
2:02:52the various magazines about my using his
2:02:57principles and then there was a young do
2:03:00there was a young priest uh uh Dr Joseph
2:03:05Murphy and Dr Murphy was a Catholic
2:03:08priest in
2:03:10California and uh I think became
2:03:13disillusioned with all of the ritual the
2:03:15priestcraft and the things that he had
2:03:18was
2:03:19was it limited and he asked for a
2:03:23sabatical and when he was on this
2:03:26sabatical he sat in a chair and he
2:03:31decided what he wanted he wanted a
2:03:343story house he wanted it secluded he
2:03:39wanted on the second floor he wanted a
2:03:42room where he could tape he was he
2:03:45thought it it was very very important to
2:03:48tape
2:03:49uh for uh P taping it's called personal
2:03:52taping you know that's very very very
2:03:55successful now
2:03:57programming and the church did not allow
2:03:59that and this is the reason he backed
2:04:01off and wanted to do his own thing okay
2:04:05he was uh limited on funds because there
2:04:08were no funds available but fortunately
2:04:12one of his
2:04:13parishioners at a radio station and ask
2:04:16him to do thought for the day you know
2:04:20what is love compassion Etc and paid him
2:04:24a nominal fee and Murphy said he used to
2:04:29uh put hot water in ketchup as for
2:04:32tomato
2:04:33soup just sitting in this chair
2:04:37visualizing this
2:04:38place and one day it was about a month
2:04:41later knocking the door an attorney are
2:04:45you uh Joseph yes and he said uh one of
2:04:49my clients has passed away and you've
2:04:52inherited her entire
2:04:55estate come see what you have so Murphy
2:04:59gets in the car and they go up to the
2:05:01Hollywood Hills and this fabulous place
2:05:05and he walks in the door and everything
2:05:08he imagined was there and then he ask
2:05:12the uh attorney does there happen to be
2:05:17a room upstairs
2:05:19with taping equipment and then the the
2:05:23attorney said you were here you know
2:05:25this and Murphy said no he said I just
2:05:28uh this is something I've always
2:05:31wanted so he had his dream fulfilled
2:05:34when um I'd never met
2:05:37Murphy uh but he was doing a a lecture
2:05:40in Dallas at one of the churches and he
2:05:43called me and he said Peele said I had
2:05:46to come and meet you so I'm coming uh
2:05:49I'm coming out the house he was he was
2:05:52about this tall very
2:05:54dictatorial and I said well okay uh I I
2:05:58didn't know him I hadn't read anything
2:06:00of his at that time and uh I said well
2:06:03why don't you come to dinner okay he
2:06:05said I want a ground beef steak and
2:06:09mashed potatoes and he says I'll bring
2:06:13a I'll bring the wine not the wine but
2:06:16he brought something else and uh
2:06:19uh we'll see you my driver will be there
2:06:22and he said I don't want a small talk
2:06:24nobody there I want to talk to you and
2:06:27your husband can talk to my driver he's
2:06:29just like you know he's just this way so
2:06:32when he came
2:06:34in and he was he was a delightful
2:06:37absolutely Del delightful we had dinner
2:06:40he now we talk so I went into the living
2:06:42room my husband entertaining in the den
2:06:45and uh he says I want to ask you
2:06:47something how do you do you think this
2:06:50came about what is your perception on
2:06:54why I was able to accomplish all this
2:06:57and I said oh that's easy I said you sat
2:07:01there and you wanted this and see how
2:07:05minds work I said this woman uh you
2:07:08don't know her she was listening to you
2:07:13on the radio here she had all of this
2:07:16stuff and she had no one to to give it
2:07:20to probably to charity and she thought
2:07:24gosh uh here he sounds uh sincere and I
2:07:29have this place up here I think I'll
2:07:33give it to him okay he picks up this
2:07:36thought she's in her room and she looks
2:07:38at all her appointments I mean her china
2:07:41cabinet with Sterling and her paintings
2:07:45and uh projects I mean he's looking he
2:07:48picks up her thoughts and he thinks
2:07:50they're his you see and all of a sudden
2:07:54they communic they're just like one and
2:07:57now he's aware cuz when he W walked in
2:08:00that house it was familiar it was
2:08:03exactly what he projected he did not
2:08:06project it she projected it to him and
2:08:10he thought it was his idea and this
2:08:12happens so often so often when I do that
2:08:16so this uh this he's only appeared
2:08:21twice and the second time he appeared
2:08:24this was very very interesting I had uh
2:08:27started with Jose and I was uh sitting
2:08:31there typing I'd had so many many many
2:08:35people call after I did research in uh
2:08:39contesting is what I did and I was very
2:08:43very very successful so naturally people
2:08:45are coming to my door and calling and so
2:08:49forth and I'm a I'm a
2:08:51witch all this good stuff I didn't say
2:08:54that I was using witchcraft I was using
2:08:57wish w s h
2:08:59wishcraft and so um I am uh typing and
2:09:05all of a sudden he appears again just as
2:09:08I mean it's like this and he said now
2:09:12you started to do what you came in here
2:09:14to do and that was U it's not a big deal
2:09:18you know some people come in to help
2:09:21people on a onetoone basis to uplift
2:09:24them and encourage them and it just so
2:09:26happen that I had to have the masses to
2:09:29lift up and to encourage but I've never
2:09:32felt like I was a chosen one or anything
2:09:35like that because I have had help from
2:09:41that other dimension that is absolutely
2:09:44fabulous and I know it's from another
2:09:47dimension because how else would have it
2:09:50would have it happened and many times I
2:09:54was um seeing something and I wanted it
2:09:58and so you know you said first of all
2:10:00you uh selected you projected you
2:10:04expected and then you collect it that's
2:10:07uh that was been my philosophy and not
2:10:10only with material things but there's
2:10:13other things that I find much more uh
2:10:16exciting or much more are
2:10:19rewarding uh even if it's a
2:10:21personality that I would like to
2:10:23communicate with personally and this
2:10:26happens it's a a roundabout thing no
2:10:29accidents no happenstances I don't
2:10:32believe in
2:10:33that so there you go now when I'm on the
2:10:38podium lecturing mostly people would ask
2:10:42me to come and talk about my book the
2:10:45name it and claim it game because
2:10:47everybody wants to be a winner that was
2:10:50fine um this was this happened on the
2:10:53outskirts of Boston I I Le you quite a
2:10:56bit Boston Massachusetts up there in
2:10:58that area New
2:11:00Hampshire I got up there and uh she
2:11:03wanted me to talk about my um name it
2:11:07and claim it game so I get on the podium
2:11:09and I have this fun and game session
2:11:11okay today I see the whole room full of
2:11:13winners here everybody is a winner but I
2:11:18look in the third row and there's one
2:11:21man sitting there immediately I know
2:11:25he's going to kill himself he's on
2:11:29self-destruct I shift
2:11:32gears and then I talk about I said what
2:11:36a shame when a young person feels so
2:11:41inadequate and so rejected that they
2:11:44have to kill themselves brutally leave
2:11:47all their family behind to mourn and
2:11:49wonder what's going on and leaving this
2:11:53perfectly good body shame on you and I
2:11:57am getting into this Hook Line and
2:12:01thinker that you do not kill yourself
2:12:05well I don't look at people because uh
2:12:09many of the student members that were
2:12:11there before that heard me the year
2:12:13before know I focus on somebody and I'm
2:12:16looking out in the you know and just
2:12:19talking and talking and here all these
2:12:21people want to come here winning and I'm
2:12:25going on this all of a sudden bless his
2:12:27heart a man at the back of the audience
2:12:29stands up and he said thank you Mrs
2:12:32hadel he said my brother killed himself
2:12:36last week and we're still mourning the
2:12:39process and uh we know we never I mean
2:12:42he was despondent and so forth and so
2:12:47after then the audience then thinks well
2:12:50I directed that at him which I didn't
2:12:53and so this is so discom numerating and
2:12:57I'm there now 15 minutes and I break
2:13:00time and everybody what the hell is
2:13:03going on the woman that sponsored me
2:13:06wants me to talk about books talking
2:13:08about this now it's break
2:13:11time so what I do then go into the
2:13:14bathroom go into the stall and say
2:13:18damn it I came here for talk he said but
2:13:23you have reached him and he says it's
2:13:25okay now you can go out and talk about
2:13:27your book so I get out of my stall and
2:13:32this elderly woman approaches me and she
2:13:35said uh were you talking about my son
2:13:39and I said is he in the third row and
2:13:42she said oh Mrs hadel I must tell you
2:13:45she said he his wife left him and he's
2:13:49he's a very successful architect and he
2:13:52doesn't seem to get over it and I said
2:13:54he's
2:13:55rejection and she said I have a feeling
2:13:58that he is about to kill himself and she
2:14:03said uh my husband is out working and is
2:14:07not home that night and we've had
2:14:09robberies in our area and I called my
2:14:12son to come over and spend the night cuz
2:14:15I wanted him to come to your lecture
2:14:18he didn't want to come he doesn't want
2:14:19to come you don't want to hear anything
2:14:21about
2:14:22contesting and she said I got out my car
2:14:26wouldn't start and it's drizzling and
2:14:30yet I had already paid to listen to hear
2:14:33you cuz you were in town and uh so I
2:14:36asked my son to take us there and I says
2:14:39you can watch television while I'm
2:14:42hearing her she'd been there the year
2:14:44before cuz I was doing every year
2:14:46lectures and so they got there and uh
2:14:50the lobby is just full of people and so
2:14:53um she said oh come and sit in on her
2:14:56and if you don't like her during the
2:14:57break we're going to leave we're going
2:14:59to
2:14:59leave and there wasn't any room left and
2:15:03finally the door is closed now and
2:15:06there's only one seat there on the third
2:15:08row and uh he gets this third row seat
2:15:12and his mother's sitting someplace else
2:15:15and that's when I Z in on and so she
2:15:18said do you think uh and I said I think
2:15:22we uh I've made contact with him well
2:15:27now she says are you ready to leave he
2:15:29says no I want to hear this woman it's
2:15:31okay so after I make this pray and then
2:15:35I say tomorrow I said let's get real
2:15:37real serious and I says we're going to
2:15:40learn some things about uh know thyself
2:15:43we're going to learn all about you if
2:15:45you're interested you're going to be at
2:15:47my Workshop if not you're where you're
2:15:49supposed to be I've never never
2:15:52advertised so that night he said you
2:15:55know I think I'll go to her Workshop
2:15:59tomorrow well the first thing in this
2:16:01Workshop was and this was Jerry CI I
2:16:05don't know if he's still with the
2:16:06program but he is the one that sponsored
2:16:09me there and the first thing he wanted
2:16:12was to uh teach
2:16:15regression I asked for a
2:16:18volunteer and he's the first one up
2:16:21there and I said okay now anything that
2:16:25comes past in this life or past life I
2:16:29said I don't know what you need to look
2:16:32at I don't care he said just lay it
2:16:35on and we started that lifetime after
2:16:39lifetime he was a very very aggressive
2:16:44and a woman just needed to be at home to
2:16:46take care of her
2:16:48this lifetime his wife was challenging
2:16:53him was not going to be told what to do
2:16:56and he had still had that intense
2:17:00feeling of I'm in control uh you're
2:17:03going to follow me and said I'm the head
2:17:05of the house men have that you know tend
2:17:09majority of men have that tendency I'll
2:17:11back off and so um she didn't like it
2:17:16and she left him and he was very very
2:17:19embarrassed with his
2:17:20peers and how dare she do this she had
2:17:24nothing further to do with him and so
2:17:27the
2:17:28embarrassment and the rejection was too
2:17:31much for this proud proud
2:17:33man and uh this all appeared I mean you
2:17:37know like what else is new one thing I'm
2:17:40interested in it seems the n and claimed
2:17:42the Law of Attraction yes so it is very
2:17:47easy easy but yet so many people
2:17:49struggle why do you think that is okay
2:17:53you can only think of one thing at a
2:17:55time and you're serious about getting
2:17:58something but you tell somebody else and
2:18:02that somebody else may be jealous and
2:18:04not want you to have it and so it's a
2:18:08delay in the results you then pick up
2:18:11that person's thought and then you think
2:18:14why should I have it some people people
2:18:17are actually guilty that they're
2:18:20committing a sin by wanting something
2:18:24and so whatever their Consciousness or
2:18:27whatever their thought or however they
2:18:31were brought up in a family see uh when
2:18:34you're when you choose your parents
2:18:36you're subjected from a from birth to
2:18:39age
2:18:40seven and uh you learn
2:18:43mannerisms uh their their Concepts uh
2:18:47their religion everything about this and
2:18:50even walk like it and so forth and then
2:18:54all of a sudden you get out
2:18:57into school now you pick up peers your
2:19:01peers what do your peers think and then
2:19:03you get to thinking and then as you grow
2:19:06up the rest of your life you're going to
2:19:08have to undo what you learned from 1 to
2:19:11seven and even uh I have found uh and
2:19:15this is very interesting when I
2:19:18regressions I have found children that
2:19:21are in the womb with the mother and uh
2:19:25there are comfortable there and are
2:19:28subjected to the environment but I have
2:19:32also found children that although here
2:19:35is a physical part and they're
2:19:38eliminated they're here and their soul
2:19:41only comes
2:19:42in you mean the soul comes in after the
2:19:45kid is born after the child is born also
2:19:48I have found that children come in and
2:19:52there is probably an elder around and
2:19:57has not made the transition yet but has
2:20:00not learned all the lessons and this
2:20:03child has nothing there has no soul
2:20:07there is just a physical thing and after
2:20:10the death uh the essence come in and
2:20:13incidentally this Essence has been uh
2:20:16weighed that's maybe A4 of an ounce or
2:20:20whatever uh you know when we had death
2:20:22bed scenes and we would uh wonder when
2:20:26there was this um being coming out and
2:20:29then of course there was a I mean they
2:20:32measured that in one of the researches W
2:20:36right the the the body tends to lose a
2:20:37certain amount of weight yes just ounces
2:20:40but it does this tells you that this
2:20:43sole Essence here uh it's an energy as
2:20:47well what it is then can only will come
2:20:49in into the child so you're saying the
2:20:52child is born as an empty vessel without
2:20:54a soul waiting waiting for usually
2:20:58someone that is in a physical now we
2:21:01also find that older people uh they have
2:21:05the essence and they can go back and
2:21:07forth back and forth and back until they
2:21:10release the
2:21:11body and then in some of my regressions
2:21:14I have found uh this to be just awesome
2:21:18absolutely awesome what do you mean by
2:21:20regression so you mean you are putting
2:21:21people through a hypnotic regression yes
2:21:23I
2:21:24do would that be something you'd be able
2:21:26to show us one of us I can share with
2:21:29you it's a tedious process unless you
2:21:32have um you come here for a particular
2:21:35purpose something that's
2:21:38unresolved and uh sometime uh I always
2:21:43caution uh
2:21:45people be sure because I have to have
2:21:48permission from your beans I don't mess
2:21:51around I'm I'm too serious and I know
2:21:55that we're getting so much help from
2:21:56that other side I don't want to mess
2:21:58with it Chicago Chicago I had just
2:22:02gotten back on my trip uh to U where did
2:22:07I
2:22:11go good Lord I was invited to Russia
2:22:15just got back from my my trip to Russia
2:22:18and I was one of the speakers in uh
2:22:21Chicago so I had to just get off a plane
2:22:25like you're doing now and then get on a
2:22:27plane and get to Chicago when I got to
2:22:30Chicago Jose was sitting there in the
2:22:33foyer and with Dr um doctor two doctors
2:22:39and Norm Sheely I'm sure you've heard of
2:22:41Norm she he is the one that has the pain
2:22:45clinic in Wisconsin has written a number
2:22:49of books training people how to heal
2:22:53themselves very very and U um what I
2:22:57would say very well known at that time
2:23:00in my experience okay they were all
2:23:03sitting there Norm Sheil and this
2:23:06medical doctor and Jose and Harry we
2:23:09were sitting there and uh I'm noticing
2:23:12the doctor uh this one
2:23:14doctor was very sad and all confused and
2:23:19I'm wondering what is he doing here Norm
2:23:22Sheil had Good Vibes and Jose and Harry
2:23:25were Good Vibes but I'm concerned about
2:23:28this doctor so I went up to my room and
2:23:31got ready now I want to come down and
2:23:33have some coffee in the coffee shop and
2:23:36he's sitting there and I SL slip into
2:23:40the U seat there and I said uh what's
2:23:44your problem I said the world is a I
2:23:47said pity party time what is your
2:23:51problem and he kind of looked at me
2:23:54because this is very bold you know to
2:23:56walk up to a stranger and he said well
2:24:00he said is it that obvious and I said
2:24:03yeah I said I don't even like your Vib
2:24:06Vibes what's going on and he said well
2:24:09his wife just divorced him he was caught
2:24:13in another triangle of extracurricular
2:24:16things like some of the men like to do
2:24:19and uh his wife left him with children
2:24:23and he has nothing he can't see the
2:24:25children now his mother-in-law is
2:24:27interfering and won't let him even visit
2:24:30the children and he's just perplexed you
2:24:33know he's unhappy and I said well you CA
2:24:36well I know I did and I he said listen
2:24:40uh have you ever heard of Henry rker
2:24:43heard of Henry
2:24:44rker Henry rker was this 6 fo8 tall
2:24:49black man in Chicago very very well
2:24:53known he would invite them
2:24:56downstairs where he had a mamb system of
2:25:02he of healing uh uh well he would use uh
2:25:07music for healing he would use healing
2:25:10for energy he had all these complicated
2:25:13things
2:25:15systems so anyway um he said we're
2:25:20invited to go to Henry ryker's place
2:25:23tonight would you like to come with me I
2:25:27said don't know anything about him so he
2:25:29tells me what's going on and he says I'm
2:25:32sure he won't mind so I said he says now
2:25:36he said we get there and Henry rker
2:25:39talks all night it may be 2: in the
2:25:42morning 4: in the morning uh do you need
2:25:44to come back if you do he said said I
2:25:47don't want you to go because I want to
2:25:49see what this man has to tell me so okay
2:25:53we're going to go so he get hires a cab
2:25:56and we go out to this
2:25:59place way in the heart of the black area
2:26:05and get there and going
2:26:08downstairs and Henry stands up and he
2:26:11says oh we have this woman from Texas
2:26:14tonight and he the floor is full of
2:26:18black kids girls and boys long hair the
2:26:22whole nine
2:26:24yards and uh U he said tonight we're
2:26:28going to um devote the night to Mrs
2:26:31hadel in Texas she needs to know she
2:26:35needs to learn some things and I'm all I
2:26:39said whatever I'm open he said what do
2:26:41you want me to talk about I says how
2:26:43about love I says I know there are many
2:26:45facets to love
2:26:47what's your take on love he turns on his
2:26:50tape recorder and he talks 3 hours on
2:26:55love he talks about going to other
2:27:00dimensions and coming back uh to
2:27:04experience love with its intensity he
2:27:08said in other
2:27:10Realms uh love is so so intense and so
2:27:15healing and then coming back here on
2:27:18this planet with all of the confusion
2:27:22and all of the turmoil that we have to
2:27:25go through and we can do this by
2:27:28encasing us with what we call a shield a
2:27:32light uh we can have we can experience
2:27:35that L it can be ecstasy we can also
2:27:39when we have an orgasm when we have
2:27:43a love making love with a partner
2:27:47and we have an orgasm and he said when
2:27:50you have an
2:27:51orgasm does anyone ever want to laugh
2:27:55ridiculously laugh during this orgasm he
2:27:59said if you do you are not
2:28:03experiencing love to the fullest because
2:28:06you're on another Le level experiencing
2:28:12ecstasy and the only way you can
2:28:15demonstrate here is by laughing
2:28:17hysterically laughing and he said I
2:28:20don't recommend that for
2:28:22women because the husband would
2:28:26be feel you're anid you know insulted
2:28:31you're laughing at his performance I
2:28:33mean you just don't do that so I'm
2:28:35sitting there and he's nodding because
2:28:38hell I've had those you know and so
2:28:42I really and truly it was it's very
2:28:46difficult because you laugh in your
2:28:48pillow and then you have to get up and
2:28:50go to the bathroom so got to go to the
2:28:52bathroom taking the pillow and laughing
2:28:54in the pillow because you're hysterical
2:28:57and then you sit on the commode and you
2:28:59laugh and you laugh and hope he fell
2:29:02asleep cuz you I didn't know what was
2:29:05happening why I was laughing like an
2:29:07idiot well he explains this because it's
2:29:11very rare very rare that you can
2:29:16actually experience the true love that
2:29:20is in this other plane down on this
2:29:23level unless you're out of the body
2:29:25having sex and that's when it
2:29:29happens
2:29:32okay okay an elemental is a person that
2:29:36has no no soul no so why do they come in
2:29:40a lot of them come in uh when there's a
2:29:43brutal rape attack and no one takes I
2:29:46mean uh they're not prepared see when
2:29:49you're in that other dimension you
2:29:51choose your
2:29:53parents uh you actually choose your name
2:29:56you choose the date that you're to come
2:29:59in and until you do uh past life
2:30:03research uh you can't fathom that this
2:30:06is possible but it is so you do all
2:30:09these things and all of a sudden there's
2:30:11a brutal attack a rape attack and nobody
2:30:15has claiming that body and so there's
2:30:18not a Soul Essence there so what you are
2:30:21you're an
2:30:22elemental uh when I was working with
2:30:26Jose I would monitor all these people
2:30:29that would come in well one evening one
2:30:32girl comes in and she doesn't feel right
2:30:36she doesn't look right there's nothing
2:30:39around her she talks she's married she
2:30:41has two children met her husband and her
2:30:45children but
2:30:47there's something about her I don't know
2:30:50and I can't I can't fathom what what's
2:30:53wrong with her I asked Jose and he said
2:30:56you'll get an answer and many times he
2:30:59would say find your answer and uh so it
2:31:03probably was a learning experience for
2:31:05me because I did not know why she was
2:31:08not like the rest of them so all of a
2:31:11sudden I have a very wealthy friend in
2:31:14Dallas that would contact me
2:31:17periodically and he said uh Mrs hatel do
2:31:21me a favor there's a woman in Al morda
2:31:25that is a Mystic and uh why don't you
2:31:28call her I don't want to call her but
2:31:31you call her and bring her to Dallas and
2:31:35uh have her as one of the key speakers
2:31:38we would have a Sunday night uh talking
2:31:42on different aspects and he was in
2:31:44charge he was the one that own the
2:31:46building and was very generous and uh
2:31:50would get guest speakers in for anyone
2:31:53that was interested in metaphysics and
2:31:56psychic
2:31:57phenomena okay so I call
2:32:00her and she comes down and when she
2:32:03comes down she's my house
2:32:05guest and that night she's my house
2:32:09guest and she's saying uh why don't you
2:32:12have about 12 or 15 of your friends come
2:32:15over and we'll do a
2:32:18meditation and at that time I was having
2:32:20Cottage groups and so I call my friends
2:32:24that I wanted over there and some where
2:32:28some for some reason she's at one of
2:32:31these friends houses and she hears that
2:32:35I'm going to have this and she comes
2:32:39Uninvited and when she walks in the door
2:32:43uh a her name was uh well
2:32:47Evo what is her name and uh she calls me
2:32:51aside and she said why do you have this
2:32:55Elemental
2:32:57here and I said what do you mean and she
2:33:00says she's an elemental and I said
2:33:03what's an elemental see the first time
2:33:05I'd ever known this well she doesn't
2:33:07have a soul she does not have a
2:33:11connection and I said but was can a soul
2:33:15come down want to connect with her she
2:33:17said no she's just uh there's nothing uh
2:33:22and this led me to believe when you hear
2:33:25people that say this is the only life I
2:33:27have live it to the
2:33:29hilt I question are they
2:33:32alals uh they do not have uh what I call
2:33:36a connection with our uh with group
2:33:39souls or whatever they're just part of
2:33:43come down in a physical body and you
2:33:46usually Monitor and are taught things
2:33:50but they have nothing of the spirit so
2:33:53why was she with my group I asked and
2:33:56the question was that her husband was uh
2:34:01in this area and one of the children was
2:34:05very very serious and the other one was
2:34:08being monitored but she had no
2:34:11connection to a soul a group Soul Thing
2:34:16I learned something then there was a lot
2:34:19a lot I'd go out in the field I didn't
2:34:21know any I I felt I knew nothing so i'
2:34:25keep an open mind and uh listen to
2:34:29people when they came up and would would
2:34:32uh do something one time I is in uh this
2:34:35is in uh uh wait we we we just have to
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2:35:39Whitney hi everybody I'm Nicole this is
2:35:41news for the soul we're live on a Sunday
2:35:44it's been a little while we had a little
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2:35:47we're back yay mostly because I've been
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2:35:59today how would you like to win all the
2:36:02time every contest you enter well this
2:36:05is what Helen has experienced so we're
2:36:07going to find out about her story we
2:36:09started a long time ago uh we're just
2:36:11waiting for her to get in on the
2:36:13switchboard here so what we're going to
2:36:14do is do the break now
2:36:16and then talk to Helen hatel find out
2:36:18about her amazing lifetime of winning I
2:36:22mean we're talking not just little
2:36:24things we're talking about you know not
2:36:25coupons but winning a house and trips
2:36:29all over the place to the point where it
2:36:30actually got boring to do so so H can't
2:36:33imagine how many times you have to win a
2:36:35trip to Europe to get bored of that but
2:36:38we'll find out today all that and more
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2:41:37breathe hello everybody Welcome to news
2:41:40for the soul this is Daniel
2:41:44Brinkley waiting news for the soul life
2:41:46changing talk radio from the uplifting
2:41:48to the
2:41:50Unexplained from the heart of Vancouver
2:41:52what a great place to bring news for the
2:41:54soul I know we H
2:41:57perfect remember that movie did on
2:41:59Christopher Waton no you yeah it was
2:42:02like that for real I think reasonably
2:42:04accurate too honey oh that's an
2:42:06understatement
2:42:09honey okay everybody take a deep
2:42:12breath we come we know that we choose to
2:42:15come to this world and we're chosen to
2:42:17come to this world and we've come
2:42:20progressed we breathe in for ourselves
2:42:23and out for Spiritual involment and as
2:42:25we breathe these moments let's open up
2:42:28our hearts and open up our souls and let
2:42:32the true awareness of news for the soul
2:42:35make its
2:42:37impact now and
2:42:40forever well Dan Danel just mentioned
2:42:43the heart attack that is how we died
2:42:44isn't it wow two heart attacks one after
2:42:48the other yeah wow no I had him I this
2:42:51is not a you know I have him you know
2:42:56the whole thing about the spirituality
2:42:58and and the wealth or sustainability not
2:43:00going together I just think it's the
2:43:02biggest little crap you know I mean what
2:43:06have you got it is girl well really what
2:43:09have you got to give anyone if you've
2:43:10got
2:43:11nothing with your keep out door CU
2:43:15can't
2:43:16is going
2:43:17bye-bye yes um I had this really bizarre
2:43:20experience where I got sucked through a
2:43:22wall like a solid hole bre during the
2:43:25time that I was knocked
2:43:27unconscious uh an angel came to
2:43:33me people's solidity began to morph with
2:43:37the geometries so you'd see little bits
2:43:39of like the hand began to go
2:43:43missing and this particular Angel as I
2:43:46recount in the book uh said to me that I
2:43:49had chosen the wrong path in life that I
2:43:51was to choose A New Path and it was to
2:43:52be a path of piece of the peach
2:43:54piece lots of amazing things coming up
2:43:57for this hour news for the soul um see
2:43:59brought back in 1
2:44:05minute I'd have to believe that the
2:44:07times that we're in are very important
2:44:10to us mentally emotionally and
2:44:12spiritually because if we're not really
2:44:15really careful in paying and
2:44:16complimenting news for the soul we're
2:44:19about to find ourselves wrapped up in
2:44:21something that will literally Encompass
2:44:23the world and not from the Viewpoint
2:44:26that we're looking at it
2:44:31from so tonight it is an empowerment a
2:44:34place to become aware a place to change
2:44:37a place to not become fear-based but
2:44:40become
2:44:44loving
2:44:45let's all take that deep
2:44:51breay stay connected to each other and
2:44:53reminding each other about you know
2:44:55holding this energy not getting
2:44:57up into all that like all that garbage
2:44:59on TV for the last 3 days just showing
2:45:01all the reand of all the people falling
2:45:02out of the skyscrapers on the 11th and
2:45:05you know just over and over wallowing in
2:45:07low freix mindset exactly so that's
2:45:11that's the
2:45:12mindset great that is that is a
2:45:15controlled mindset to change people's
2:45:18Consciousness to create a way at which
2:45:22that they can be control to make a
2:45:24decision like war or not
2:45:29[Music]
2:45:35[Music]
2:45:37war you know I I figure hey
2:45:41is shouldn't say on aono but I mean
2:45:44compared to doing experiencing it's
2:45:46right experiencing let's experience some
2:45:49of what you do now they're driving
2:45:51should they be concerned
2:45:53no but turn the radio up a little bit oh
2:45:58yeah grandfather car me
2:46:02[Music]
2:46:14grandfather
2:46:16oh can
2:46:20[Applause]
2:46:23[Music]
2:46:30grandfather we are all it and that's
2:46:33really what Cosmic Consciousness is
2:46:35about I mean Christ Consciousness was
2:46:38the last age we're in Cosmic
2:46:39Consciousness now and Cosmic
2:46:41Consciousness is oh God we we all are
2:46:46gone he just tuned
2:46:48in and you're wondering what the
2:46:58heck here are all of our previously
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2:47:06to the
2:47:07[Music]
2:47:13show
2:47:15and we are back I'm ni go news for this
2:47:18whole lifechanging talk radio from the
2:47:20uplifting to the Unexplained what better
2:47:22uplifting can we do then B you a story
2:47:25from someone who has won nearly every
2:47:28contest she's ever entered how would you
2:47:30like to do that talk about Law of
2:47:32Attraction there and we're talking about
2:47:34uh a longstanding history of large
2:47:37prizes to the point of where winning
2:47:40free trips to Europe apparently got
2:47:42boring so we want to find out how we can
2:47:45experience that as well and how we can
2:47:46apply that to whatever we're living in
2:47:48our lives Helen hadil is my guest for
2:47:51the rest of this hour and I'm excited
2:47:53about uh talking to her and introducing
2:47:55you to her she has worked with uh the
2:47:58likes of Dr Norman Vincent Peele and
2:48:00Joseph Marie authoring H books of power
2:48:03of subconscious mind uh helping Jose
2:48:06Silva set up Silva method mind training
2:48:09centers over the years quite the
2:48:11interesting history let's find out her
2:48:13story H welcome to news for this Soul
2:48:15well hi
2:48:16there how are you doing
2:48:20great I would imagine you're always
2:48:22doing
2:48:23great yes yes uh it's a busy time all
2:48:27the time for
2:48:28me so what is your story I know you've
2:48:31probably told it a cab billion times
2:48:34over many years but I I'm uh I just
2:48:38discovered you recently via the Internet
2:48:40uh I think it was through email I got
2:48:42from Joe valii recently or something and
2:48:44I thought oh my goodness listen to this
2:48:46so this is new for me and my listeners
2:48:49some of them perhaps and I'd love to
2:48:51hear your
2:48:53story well uh should we start at the
2:48:56beginning that's ANC and do you have
2:48:59about 20 or 30
2:49:01hours perhaps it's more condensed
2:49:04version but beginning yes yes but I know
2:49:06the um a group from Malay she came over
2:49:09to to do a DVD and we sat here eight
2:49:13hours uh interviewing me and that was
2:49:17just a well it was it could have gone on
2:49:20forever because everything in my life I
2:49:23feel has been u a daring Adventure or
2:49:27nothing I think I set this up
2:49:30really uh but um uh let's start at the
2:49:33beginning yes I was a little happy
2:49:35Homemaker with three children and uh you
2:49:39know we all we we our needs are met
2:49:42mostly but then we have a lot of once
2:49:46and that's when I started entering
2:49:48contest that's originally when it
2:49:51started I actually I had read the book
2:49:54uh The Power of Positive Thinking by
2:49:57Norman Vincent Peele and um he he said
2:50:01one thing that intrigued me said you can
2:50:04have anything you
2:50:06want provided you know what it
2:50:10is and see
2:50:12yourself as already having
2:50:15it there's no doubts just see yourself
2:50:20as already having it I think I meditated
2:50:24on that and I thought that just is is
2:50:27just too simple I'm a person that always
2:50:30have to has to investigate everything
2:50:33well anyway nevertheless that night I my
2:50:36husband came in and we were talking and
2:50:38I said you know um I read this book and
2:50:41I'm fascinated about what
2:50:45well we can win if we want to we can
2:50:47just apply this to anything and uh he
2:50:50was reading the paper and he said U well
2:50:53here uh he said okay why don't you um
2:50:56win me an outboard motor and he was
2:50:59reading the paper and the Evan rude
2:51:01outboard motor had a contest you had to
2:51:04write 25 words or less while you take
2:51:07cocacola on
2:51:09outings and I said and he says and then
2:51:12you can win us an an outboard motor and
2:51:16that night I was so serious and you want
2:51:19to say I don't know but I went into my
2:51:22room and I sat there and I thought I I
2:51:26pictured my husband sitting in a boat
2:51:30with a sixpack of Cokes and that's all I
2:51:33did that was my picture and then I wrote
2:51:36this article I mean I wrote the 25 words
2:51:40my husband loved to go fishing on
2:51:42weekends by himself he he was in a very
2:51:45very
2:51:46stressful uh work at work and this was
2:51:50his way to release and all the children
2:51:54were too young to go with them so and he
2:51:56just had an old paddle booat and that's
2:51:59was for a couple of hours but he wanted
2:52:02this out for motor so now temporarily I
2:52:05became him and I sat there and I said um
2:52:10I'm a lone wolf fisherman CS are my
2:52:15silent Partners they contribute no
2:52:18yakity Yak when called upon and that was
2:52:2225 words I send it in I showed it to him
2:52:26I send it in and I said I wonder how
2:52:29long it's going to take them to let us
2:52:31know that you
2:52:33won it was exactly 10 days later when an
2:52:38a local representative called and said
2:52:41uh you won uh your offboard motor well
2:52:44see that was the start of it and then I
2:52:47thought before you go on um how long ago
2:52:51was that when was that oh honey that was
2:52:53in the 40s when they were having a lot
2:52:57of the uh 25 words or less 50 words or
2:53:00less and a few sweep Stakes but today
2:53:05there's mostly sweep Stakes but anyway
2:53:08that's originally how I got started well
2:53:12I want to ask you a couple questions
2:53:13before you move on about just the
2:53:15process cuz I'm like you I like to kind
2:53:18of scientifically break it down so when
2:53:21you went in and you you pictured it and
2:53:24he he was you you were as you said you
2:53:25became him and you were in the boat and
2:53:28you're picturing the thing and how long
2:53:30did you hold that Vision or the
2:53:33picture I don't I don't recall I just uh
2:53:37uh I will say during the day uh when I
2:53:41was driving the car or vacuuming or
2:53:43doing mundane things I would see the end
2:53:47result so you did revisit the picture
2:53:50yes uhhuh yes uh this is the reason that
2:53:53I wrote the article and I think it it's
2:53:56very very simple for everyone to Now
2:54:00understand and I call it Spec s p c and
2:54:05what it means is Select it
2:54:09projected expected
2:54:12collected and that's the form formula
2:54:15that I have used um well all my life uh
2:54:18I mean you know right now I'm not
2:54:20interested in material things I have
2:54:23everything I possibly want and I'm not
2:54:26hoarding or I'm not in the power or
2:54:29greed mode I like to use it in other
2:54:32areas of projecting um particular things
2:54:37that I want with people telepathy Etc
2:54:41and I'm still using this technique
2:54:44and it's still
2:54:47working this is why that it was so
2:54:49exciting because it's you know it can be
2:54:50as you say apply to anything it's kind
2:54:53of the the mechanics of of the
2:54:55Consciousness and and you know we we
2:54:57talk about on news for the soul we've
2:54:59talked about this kind of thing for
2:55:01years in many different ways and getting
2:55:04closer to really understanding what that
2:55:06means and what our potential is and what
2:55:08our true nature is is what we're always
2:55:10striving for here so one of the big
2:55:13questions that comes up I still want to
2:55:15hear you know more of the linear story I
2:55:16know I sort of threw you off off track
2:55:18there but I wanted to break it down the
2:55:20process because um you know the biggest
2:55:24question is how you stay out of the
2:55:26doubt creeping
2:55:28in okay you can only think of one thing
2:55:31at a time and there are several
2:55:34techniques until you get out of that
2:55:37mode I mean we're all in different
2:55:39emotions we know this but one of the
2:55:42things is that this rubber band
2:55:43technique
2:55:44uh one woman said I'm always negative
2:55:47I'm around negative people and I work in
2:55:50an office negative and I said let rub
2:55:53wear a rubber band and the minute that
2:55:56they're discussing something negative
2:55:59and you're now then uh associating with
2:56:02it uh uh snap your rubber band and get
2:56:06back to something positive and I said
2:56:10all of a sudden it becomes a way of life
2:56:13with you and everything that is uh I
2:56:16would say you would say um limiting or
2:56:19negative I call it a learning experience
2:56:23I say oh you're just going through a
2:56:25learning experience and uh what you need
2:56:28to do after after it's over with I mean
2:56:31there's always a good positive end
2:56:34result that you set this up you know you
2:56:37create your your future why did you set
2:56:40it up well okay if you think it's
2:56:42negative then it's a learning experience
2:56:45and then it can be over with now let's
2:56:48get on with life and be positive
2:56:51uplifting and so this is um one of the
2:56:54techniques that you can use but remember
2:56:57you can only think of one thing at a
2:56:59time and you're in control of your
2:57:02thinking so if you let other people
2:57:04influence you then it's something that
2:57:07you need to address and so the literally
2:57:11replace it with something yes yes
2:57:17so um well let's get back to your story
2:57:19I know I interrupted there because I was
2:57:20I've been dying to ask you so many
2:57:21questions so I'll try to you're not
2:57:23dying get through it you're interested
2:57:26in see I would correct you if you were
2:57:31in my environment you know okay I'm
2:57:33living to ask you
2:57:36questions good point this is a good
2:57:39point because we do need to pay
2:57:41attention to our thoughts and words
2:57:44everything we we say uh see everything
2:57:46is energy and we're we're projecting
2:57:49energy in our thoughts and uh you know
2:57:53uh words become uh thoughts and so forth
2:57:58and you're creating that so that's a no
2:58:01no in my
2:58:02book okay I stand and corrected okay so
2:58:06you've won the outboard motor now hubby
2:58:08is going hm you must have had his
2:58:10attention by then uh yes uh and so I
2:58:14saidwell what do we want to win next and
2:58:17uh I was so naive no kidding I was so
2:58:20naive and this book I mean uh Vincent
2:58:24Peele you know had a a radio show and he
2:58:27had all these books at
2:58:29the in the library and I thought this
2:58:32man knows everything and so he was my
2:58:36mentor at that time and so I just went
2:58:39ahead and okay he's right now what do we
2:58:42want to win and now as I said we had
2:58:45three young CH children and I said okay
2:58:48what would we wanted to and now I'm
2:58:50getting the children interested and so
2:58:54my daughter said she wanted a a new
2:58:56bicycle and I said well let's go ahead
2:59:00and see what contest is giving us giving
2:59:03away a bicycle now remember at that time
2:59:07uh there were lots and lots of of
2:59:10promotional things and at the grocery
2:59:13store they had a bulletin board with
2:59:15entry blanks you know all advertising
2:59:19their product Nestle tea and uh DelMonte
2:59:23ketchup Etc and they usually had um 25
2:59:27words or less 50 words or less or what U
2:59:31just sometime just to name something and
2:59:34so we I I get all these little contests
2:59:38and then I look for now let's see what
2:59:41she wants a twin bicycle oh here uh
2:59:44Nestle's uh uh Nestle's chocolate has a
2:59:47contest and you have to name a pony and
2:59:51the winner wins uh twin B twin swin
2:59:54bicycles and the pony so the three of us
2:59:58the children and I sat there and I said
3:00:01let's name a pony and let get Pamela and
3:00:04my daughter get her a bicycle and they
3:00:06got very serious you know playing a game
3:00:09and I said what should we call them and
3:00:12they were thinking I wrot wrot down uh
3:00:15Brownie and this and this and this and
3:00:17all of a sudden and he said U my son
3:00:20said well he bucks and so and it's you
3:00:23know it's the what call wrote down him
3:00:26buck to and then he prances so we called
3:00:30them prance charming and we send in the
3:00:33article prance charming and that's what
3:00:36one of her twin bicycle but we would
3:00:40again I um said there was something that
3:00:43um when we started this project uh one
3:00:47of the things Peele said uh don't tell
3:00:50anybody don't mention it to anybody
3:00:52because many people are negative and
3:00:55they can nullify your good energy and
3:00:58then you think it's your idea and uh
3:01:01there can be then it's not necessarily a
3:01:05failure but it's a a delay in results if
3:01:08you inject any negative in your end
3:01:12result and so that was very important to
3:01:15me we don't tell anybody anything we
3:01:19just play this game and she wants us win
3:01:23bicycle let's win it for her and now
3:01:27yeah we won the bicycle and then the
3:01:29next thing was what else do we want okay
3:01:33to make a long story short we um we won
3:01:37uh every year after I had what I called
3:01:41this
3:01:42formula um we would never um um uh when
3:01:46we demand when we uh planned our
3:01:49vacations uh we wanted to go to Disney
3:01:51World so we want to trip to Disney World
3:01:54we want to go to the World's Fair in New
3:01:57York trip to the new we want trips we
3:02:01want you name it kid and I'll claim it
3:02:04because this is we became so proficient
3:02:07in this that I then locally was known as
3:02:13as using
3:02:15Witchcraft and I changed that and I said
3:02:18no no no it's not witch witchcraft it's
3:02:22wishcraft and anybody can do this and I
3:02:26was very very very um open when I would
3:02:31get letters or ma uh telephone calls uh
3:02:35people asking me to help them and I
3:02:37would simply say well here the these are
3:02:40the rules here it is and that's when I
3:02:42wrote the book uh the name and claim at
3:02:45game with
3:02:47wuvs Win w and wuvs for
3:02:53wishcraft and that uh to date now
3:02:55probably over three million or so books
3:02:59I've sold and U that's it I mean that
3:03:02was the be really the beginning of it
3:03:05and then you know along the way so much
3:03:07fun I mean you could uh project
3:03:11something and then you could anticipate
3:03:14and it was uh so delightful cuz on my
3:03:1740th birthday I had read that Paris
3:03:20France was a city of romance and love
3:03:23and light and so forth and I announced
3:03:26to my husband on my 40th birthday I want
3:03:30to be in Paris France sitting at a
3:03:33Sidewalk Cafe drinking wine with you and
3:03:38I WR wrote a a very offbeat article I
3:03:41had this down well this sense of humor
3:03:44that sometime doesn't make sense but
3:03:47what I wrote was I I would want I want
3:03:50to go to Paris France because I'm
3:03:52curious to find out if a pooped couple
3:03:56with three kiddos can recapture the
3:03:59Rapture of Springtime ecstasy in their
3:04:03fat 40 frustrated years i s that that
3:04:08that was 50 words I send it off to two
3:04:12three different
3:04:14sponsors because uh many of the sponsors
3:04:17were offering the same prizes so I could
3:04:20use use my entry over and over I didn't
3:04:24care who gave me the trick I I saw the
3:04:28end result and that was it and so the
3:04:32first um oh the first indication that
3:04:34I'd won a prize was uh I um wound up
3:04:38winning a Hammond electric organ and we
3:04:42got a big ch charge out of that because
3:04:44I told my husband I see this started in
3:04:48January and my birthday was going to be
3:04:50the first of June and in March I win
3:04:54this ham and electric organ and I said
3:04:57well I guess the judges read my entry
3:05:00and they decided that I needed physical
3:05:03therapy and uh playing the organ would
3:05:07be very good therapy and we just had a
3:05:10fun thing with it and it was almost oh
3:05:13May
3:05:14sometime uh about the 15th of May when I
3:05:18got the notice that I was you know I was
3:05:21being considered a priz you know usually
3:05:24they investigate you and see and to
3:05:27investigate they want to find out if
3:05:29you're related to the sponsor or to the
3:05:33judging
3:05:34firm and uh you know and then you have
3:05:37to have an affidavit for that because
3:05:40the contests and prizes sweeps Stakes
3:05:43are on the very very on the up and up so
3:05:47I wouldn't have any qualms about
3:05:49entering because uh I mean they don't
3:05:52need any bad
3:05:54publicity so this went on and uh we went
3:05:57I went to Paris France and uh uh one of
3:06:01the things uh my son went a trip to uh
3:06:04New York uh and then the dude ranches we
3:06:07went to I mean every year it was let's
3:06:11go someplace else and it was a family
3:06:15fun thing but the
3:06:18one did you win every time or did it
3:06:22come in different ways or you know was
3:06:24it a general intention or did you win
3:06:26every Contest no I would I won every
3:06:30contest that I wanted every item I
3:06:33wanted uh but in the interim uh I was uh
3:06:37logging and writing a journal at that
3:06:39time uh one month I won a prize every
3:06:42day
3:06:43every cotton pick and day it was you
3:06:47know it was um uh fried pans it was um
3:06:51uh appliances it was um uh musical
3:06:55instruments it was just different things
3:06:58different things but I never lost sight
3:07:01of the fact of the big thing that I
3:07:03really wanted to win because not every
3:07:07contest I entered did I win I waited
3:07:10until I mean if I didn't win in one cont
3:07:13I would send that same entry in if it
3:07:16was you know creative writing I did this
3:07:19just on an ongoing basis and I did this
3:07:22also with sweep Stakes uh when the when
3:07:26uh the World's Fair in
3:07:281964 and 65 they had the world's uh fair
3:07:33fair in New York and I stopped there for
3:07:38a couple of days cuz my son won a trip
3:07:41there with a Lindy our safire contest
3:07:45and that was fabulous and then we were
3:07:47on our way to Paris this was on my 40th
3:07:50birthday and while we were at the
3:07:52World's Fair uh the formica Corporation
3:07:56had built this fabulous home and at that
3:08:00time God that was
3:08:03$50,000 valued at
3:08:06$50,000 and I was so looking forward to
3:08:09going um to uh France Paris that I uh
3:08:16never even went to that World Fair house
3:08:19and the only time I remember that they
3:08:22had it I came back and as contesting
3:08:26contesters do every every uh state or
3:08:31loc a local area has uh what we call um
3:08:36well they have uh contest clubs and I
3:08:40came and I belong to this Dallas Club
3:08:43and we called ourselves the
3:08:46compatriots and we were always sharing
3:08:48entry blanks and ideas and every time we
3:08:52we um would meet we would go around the
3:08:55room and each one would stand up and say
3:08:58oh um this month I won a month supply of
3:09:02of gas I won $50 grocery at this store I
3:09:06won this trip here Etc and we were
3:09:09competing I mean it was fun and we're
3:09:12there very very supportive well while I
3:09:15was came back and told the girls about
3:09:18my trip to New York and then to Paris
3:09:22and one gal said well did you see the
3:09:24formica house at the World's Fair and I
3:09:27said no I missed that completely it was
3:09:30so awesome and there were so many things
3:09:33we were interested in uh no I didn't and
3:09:36she said well it's still running for
3:09:39another two weeks and locally uh some of
3:09:43the builders are using formica and uh
3:09:47what you have to do is is go ahead and
3:09:49uh see the for home and sign there is a
3:09:53a signing there uh and then they send in
3:09:57all of the entries from around the
3:09:59entire United States to a judging firm
3:10:03and that judging firm then chooses the
3:10:06name and uh everybody I mean there were
3:10:10millions of of entries in it because
3:10:13uh the prize went on I mean the uh the
3:10:16contest went on for a year during the
3:10:19World's Fair well I said well where
3:10:23where's a local place that I can enter
3:10:26and the g well this was in Garland which
3:10:28is about well actually about 38 miles
3:10:32from where I lived in Irving and I I
3:10:36thought well okay this was at night and
3:10:38I thought the next morning I will go and
3:10:41enter this um see this for Mah home
3:10:45sounded exciting a new home you know and
3:10:48uh my friends that lived locally I
3:10:50called up um I called up Jesse and I
3:10:53said let's go over and register at um uh
3:10:57this for Micah house and she said no I
3:10:59just washed my hair and it was raining
3:11:02and drizzling and it was very overcast
3:11:05and really wasn't it was a gloomy day
3:11:09and then I called another friend no
3:11:10she's having her carpets shampooed no
3:11:13she can't go and you know she said it's
3:11:16already rigged and they know who they
3:11:18want and this was negative so I'm
3:11:22sitting there and all of a sudden it
3:11:25just felt like somebody pushed me in the
3:11:27car and the next thing I know I'm down
3:11:30the highway and I'm in Garland and I
3:11:33find the house and I walk up to this for
3:11:37Mah house and get in there sit there and
3:11:41look at everything in it signed my name
3:11:45my husband's name and I thought okay yes
3:11:48now I want a new house this is the house
3:11:52I
3:11:53want after and I signed my husband's
3:11:56name my name took an entry blank went
3:11:59home that night and told my
3:12:02husband uh well our next prize is we're
3:12:05going to win this house and I said you
3:12:08might as well start uh doing a uh we
3:12:12want to do a schematic of the house and
3:12:14I want to design the
3:12:16interior and my husband's always been
3:12:19very very supportive so we sat there and
3:12:22we designed the house and it was a fun
3:12:27thing let's do this here the boys room
3:12:29let's have twin uh bathrooms here and
3:12:33everything we possibly
3:12:35wanted and this W and that was it the
3:12:38contest was over with I'd had my entries
3:12:41in Etc it took six weeks later and
3:12:46probably it took that long because they
3:12:49were gathering boxes from the uh around
3:12:52the country that had formica homes and
3:12:55displaying uh their FICA products and uh
3:13:00that night I am actually at the um uh
3:13:05club in
3:13:07Dallas and my husband called and said
3:13:11well somebody just called from New York
3:13:13and asked about the forah house and I
3:13:18said you gave him all the right answers
3:13:20he yes yes and uh that was it but let me
3:13:25back up for a minute uh this after I got
3:13:28home from entering the contest and I was
3:13:32there by
3:13:33myself I was adamant that my husband had
3:13:38to come over and see that house I said
3:13:41if they invest investigators we both
3:13:45need to know about their for Mica the
3:13:49new things that they're adding like
3:13:51molding and so molding was one of the
3:13:54main things that they were displaying
3:13:57because that was a new product they were
3:13:59plugging and do you know on Saturday
3:14:02morning I said let's get up and we're
3:14:05going to um over to Garland and you're
3:14:08going to look at that house so when they
3:14:10call you can say yeah yes you saw it
3:14:14although I put it in my name but uh he
3:14:18what he would answer the phone so this
3:14:21this is what happened he answered the
3:14:23phone he said yes my wife and I saw the
3:14:26formica home and we were impressed with
3:14:29this Etc and that was um an
3:14:32investigation over the phone and now
3:14:36this again it's another four or five
3:14:38weeks later and I'm still visualizing in
3:14:42the house uh now we're running we're
3:14:45driving around because we're going to
3:14:46put us on a lot uh we find a suitable
3:14:50lot and we're we're waiting I mean
3:14:52what's taking them so long and that's
3:14:56the
3:14:57morning my I woke up and I said they're
3:15:01going to let us know we won today and
3:15:04the children were all going off to
3:15:05school and I said listen kids when you
3:15:08get home uh they're going to let us know
3:15:10we won this house for God's sakes act
3:15:13surprised they
3:15:15expected and just you know this was a
3:15:17fun thing with me and uh my husband said
3:15:21well you sure and I said yeah they're
3:15:22coming today and he said well I think
3:15:25I'll stay home from work today and I
3:15:27said great so I uh he's in bed reading
3:15:32the paper I go to the local bakery to
3:15:35get some Bakery goods and plug in the
3:15:37coffee pot we're waiting and waiting and
3:15:40waiting and it's 12 :00 it's 1:00 he
3:15:44said are you sure and I said yeah they
3:15:47we want it um they just have to let us
3:15:50know and about about 2:00 I got a phone
3:15:53call and they said uh Mrs hadsel we're
3:15:56so we're the president of for Mica and
3:15:59um and the um company that spons um
3:16:02sponsored it and um we'd like to come
3:16:06out and talk to you about something and
3:16:09uh but we want your husband to be there
3:16:12and I assume he's working and I said
3:16:15well yeah but he took the day off well
3:16:18is he ill I said no he just happened to
3:16:20want to take the day off so he's here so
3:16:24they came they came 20 minutes later um
3:16:29and uh and now they talked and they were
3:16:32a little you know they you know made
3:16:34small talk and we had coffee and so
3:16:36forth and I was just as antsy as I could
3:16:40be you know I thought when are they
3:16:41going to get to this and you know I had
3:16:44to act surprised cuz they expected so I
3:16:46will I squealed and you know like they
3:16:48do on on um on some of these shows that
3:16:54the Price Is Right when people get
3:16:56ecstatic about winning something cuz
3:16:58they expected it so that's how I won the
3:17:01house and yes many many many many
3:17:05trips my son's won trips to Europe and
3:17:09they were very very very uh oh well
3:17:13educational and it was just a lot of
3:17:15fun so then so oh sorry go ahead well
3:17:20after I had won everything you possibly
3:17:23could win I wrote the book and then I um
3:17:27got on after that I was working with
3:17:30Jose and then I learned so many many
3:17:33many how powerful a mind is and had
3:17:37confirmation on what I was doing by by
3:17:41by
3:17:42projecting and uh selecting and
3:17:45projecting expecting collecting all of
3:17:48these things uh the Mind does this I
3:17:51mean when we're focused on something
3:17:54we're sending energy for that end result
3:17:58and if we don't interfere it has to come
3:18:01to us that's just a cosmic law as far as
3:18:05I'm concerned so everything is energy
3:18:08our thoughts are
3:18:10energy uh this now fascinated me so I
3:18:14got another kick I would call it I
3:18:18wanted to learn everything I could about
3:18:21selfawareness
3:18:24everything why am I here what am I
3:18:27supposed to be doing why am I doing this
3:18:31why am I do I have a hang up here and uh
3:18:34that's when I really got serious about
3:18:38selfawareness and uh finding out about
3:18:41myself
3:18:42so that went into another facet of a
3:18:47daring adventure for me and I used the
3:18:50same
3:18:52techniques when I want when I had an
3:18:54interest in
3:18:57something so and that's kind of where I
3:18:59was going with it um as well because you
3:19:02know it's a lot more than than frying
3:19:04pans that we're talking about here and
3:19:08um because the law as you as you say I
3:19:11mean it's got to be um applicable to
3:19:15anything right and and if you can do it
3:19:18and and some other people can do it we
3:19:20obviously are all able to do it oh yes
3:19:23definitely so the first question comes
3:19:26with like limits if any you know what
3:19:30have you applied besides contest with
3:19:35this oh well um after I um worked with
3:19:40Jose and um I've been then learned the
3:19:43program somebody said how many times did
3:19:45you uh uh sit through the lecture and
3:19:48I'd say 3 400 times and they think well
3:19:51you're an idiot and I said no I was this
3:19:54PR and every time he had a class or
3:19:57anybody had a class I would register and
3:20:00be there and greet him Etc and uh and do
3:20:05the promotions and things uh so I got to
3:20:08know him so well and then sit in every
3:20:10every class on a for two three years so
3:20:15it would uh I mean I knew it to such a
3:20:18degree that I could uh give it to your
3:20:20verbatim on what he what he presented in
3:20:24each class and that's getting to know
3:20:26the subjects now all then when I when I
3:20:30got into that area I then had U sort of
3:20:34notoriety because of My Success in
3:20:36entering contests and so I was invited
3:20:41to go to um different areas around the
3:20:44United States and I hadn't U really had
3:20:48that much I mean there were many
3:20:50exciting places I wanted to see and so
3:20:53they would contact me and I would just
3:20:56sit there and say I'd like to go to New
3:20:59York and uh do a workshop in New York
3:21:03and uh one of the um this was very
3:21:05interesting CU one of the soap opera uh
3:21:09Queens there what was her name I think
3:21:11Jun Graham uh in one of the Opera soap
3:21:15operas daily operas uh called me and
3:21:19said would I come to New York and uh
3:21:22present my program on self-awareness so
3:21:25I got to New York and then I wanted to
3:21:28hey I think I would like to go to San
3:21:31Francisco I've never been there and then
3:21:33I'd get a call from San Francisco I
3:21:36would see it as an end
3:21:38result and uh it worked for me in that
3:21:41area
3:21:42and then all of a sudden I am um as a
3:21:46child I had U sort of pushed back that
3:21:50area I was able to see in another
3:21:53dimension and everybody has this
3:21:56capability but it's dormant or they're
3:21:59frightened with it or they're talked out
3:22:01of it which I was talked out of it as
3:22:05you my mother said you have a vivid
3:22:07imagination or you lie and that then I
3:22:10just let that be
3:22:12but I could see people in another
3:22:15dimension and some were almost as solid
3:22:18as I was well this fascinated me and I
3:22:21took a lot of time trying to work out
3:22:24what's going on here and all of a sudden
3:22:28I could see people I could communicate
3:22:31and then I thought just a minute some
3:22:33people are coming with messages uh some
3:22:37people are
3:22:39aition uh when they're uh is something
3:22:42serious and then there are thought forms
3:22:46that people create I was listening to
3:22:49people I was discussing the this
3:22:52particular um frame that I was re very
3:22:56serious with and all of a sudden I made
3:22:59a decision that many many people that
3:23:03are Lonesome or uh negative or whatever
3:23:07create a thought form and the thought
3:23:10form they work back and forth with this
3:23:14thought form but how can you prove
3:23:16something like that so what I did was I
3:23:20projected that I would have this answer
3:23:23and the answer came when I went to
3:23:25England there's a place in England 34 BG
3:23:29grave Square it's called the spiritual
3:23:32Frontier and they um what they do is
3:23:35they train
3:23:37mediums talk to the dead and so forth
3:23:40which I wasn't interested in but I
3:23:42thought I want to see if there's any
3:23:45credibility to this I went to England my
3:23:48husband went with me I sat in Seance
3:23:50rooms for three
3:23:52weeks studying who's coming to seances
3:23:56what are people learning and then
3:23:59sitting there uh
3:24:01downstairs and talking and listening to
3:24:03them and that's when I made an
3:24:06evaluation and boy did I learn something
3:24:09there I learned that most people that
3:24:12went there they had um their loved ones
3:24:16had died and the medium was reassuring
3:24:20them them that their loved one they're
3:24:21waiting for them Etc and they would
3:24:24appear in this uh situation where I was
3:24:29and the medium would uh would convey the
3:24:33message to the people that were there
3:24:36and I thought thought form this is a
3:24:38thought form this is a thought form
3:24:41because from the information that I
3:24:43gathered but one day uh there was a and
3:24:47this would take me an hour to discuss
3:24:49because it's so long to get to to the
3:24:52end result I will say I was very
3:24:56surprised when a woman that I sat beside
3:25:00came in just as a uh just uh just to
3:25:04spend the afternoon she was on a tour
3:25:07and somebody told her to come by and see
3:25:09this place and I got a qu with her and
3:25:13the medium uh said is aerta here and uh
3:25:17she raised her hands I have a message
3:25:19from you from your aunt and uh she said
3:25:24uh uh your mother is with us with us now
3:25:28and you need to um take care of the body
3:25:31and so forth and this is held in this
3:25:34sance room and uh this girl just just
3:25:39was this conglomerated and after the
3:25:42medium told her in essence that the
3:25:45mother was dead uh so she she ran out of
3:25:49the room I went with her we went
3:25:50downstairs and she said why would people
3:25:54be that way and I knew she was then
3:25:57apprehensive and I said well why don't
3:25:59you call well she said my mother's fine
3:26:02I left my mother she's fine and I said
3:26:05well why don't you call her and U have
3:26:08confirmation cuz some sometimes these
3:26:10are idiots and are seeking
3:26:12sensationalism and trying to sort of
3:26:14soften the blow for her and she called
3:26:17there was no answer and I said uh and
3:26:20she said well we live in the um
3:26:22apartment building and I said well why
3:26:24don't you call um one of your friends or
3:26:28who has a key to your mothers and they
3:26:30can uh here's the U have them call you
3:26:33here downstairs and we'll wait and see
3:26:36um your mother may may be um out walking
3:26:40the dog or whatever
3:26:42and she did she called the um man that
3:26:44took care of the building and his wife
3:26:47was a good friend of the mothers so the
3:26:49wife went up there and opened the door
3:26:52and the mother had died in her sleep so
3:26:55she called um our place in England and
3:26:59of course the girl had to go back home
3:27:02take care of the arrangements but her
3:27:04aunt had appeared in the Seance room and
3:27:07her do aunt was no longer in the
3:27:09physical so that really and truly got me
3:27:13to thinking and I came back and I did a
3:27:16lot of talk shows at that time because
3:27:18there were so many things happening and
3:27:22one of the one of the people I don't
3:27:24even recall who heard me and said hey I
3:27:26want to take you to uh Russia and I want
3:27:30you to present a paper on your ghost
3:27:33thought forms and ations because we have
3:27:36not had this kind of U
3:27:40investigation and and we'd like for you
3:27:42to join us there and it was a
3:27:44psychotronic congress held in uh
3:27:4772 in uh Moscow and then I got to go to
3:27:52Russia and for two weeks and present my
3:27:55paper and well I mean this can go on and
3:27:58on there was one exciting Venture right
3:28:02after the
3:28:04other wow and I'm still having and I
3:28:07wrote I wrote a book I called it um uh
3:28:11the um confessions of an 83 yearold Sage
3:28:15I wrote this two years ago and uh no h
3:28:18no holes are barred I uh every every
3:28:23story in there is a personal experience
3:28:26and then I have a technique that uh if
3:28:29you want to pursue it you can go ahead
3:28:32and this is what worked for
3:28:34me and that's that's where I'm at wow
3:28:39still every day there's
3:28:42The Wall Street Journal uh just
3:28:44contacted me last last week and want to
3:28:48do an article on uh my winning and then
3:28:52the sun uh National publication you know
3:28:55on the news stands you know National
3:28:57inquire Etc there's a u publication
3:29:01called the sun uh I send them the spec
3:29:06article because I wrote to the editor
3:29:09and I said how does this grab you I've
3:29:12I've read enough Doom and Gloom on your
3:29:15front page how about something uplifting
3:29:18for these people that are going through
3:29:20a a crisis of
3:29:23U of not having jobs Etc and depressed
3:29:27and all this I says let's give them
3:29:29something to look forward to I'd like
3:29:32for you to publish this um My article on
3:29:36spec two days later I got an email and
3:29:40said send me your picture and we're
3:29:44going to run the story uh this was a
3:29:47couple of weeks ago I haven't uh had any
3:29:49more confirmation that they wrote that
3:29:52their the article's out yet but um I'm
3:29:56certain that they'll put maybe they may
3:29:57put it there in a little corner but I'm
3:30:00looking for the front page of that sun
3:30:04magazine so we can get this message out
3:30:08that hey wait a minute you kids aren't
3:30:10using your mind to its full potential
3:30:13shame on you you have it there I there's
3:30:17so much in there I mean there's just so
3:30:19much that you can do instead of Doom and
3:30:23Gloom and pity party and a drama queen
3:30:26Etc you know so there you got it the I
3:30:31mean this brings up the question like
3:30:32like you mentioned the front page and we
3:30:34kind of chuckled but I mean can you not
3:30:36use the the technique and make it happen
3:30:40well yeah that's what
3:30:41that's my end result kid that's my end
3:30:44result now and here I told the whole
3:30:47world but it hasn't happened yet uh it
3:30:51takes you know I it's not
3:30:54instantaneous I'm not I'm not enough I
3:30:57mean I'm not saying uh that it's going
3:31:00to happen overnight but when it when you
3:31:03have enough energy on something then it
3:31:06has to come to you it it just it's just
3:31:09a law and that's that's all the only way
3:31:12I can explain it it's a law and I've
3:31:14done it so much so often with so many
3:31:18people uh I um I actually after I got
3:31:22off the lecture circuit which was real
3:31:25real exciting and we had so many case
3:31:29histories that were phenomenal really
3:31:32phenomenal that happened I I could write
3:31:3620 or 30 books but I encourage the
3:31:39people that had these experience write
3:31:40your own story but when I came back I
3:31:44decided now with my book sales initially
3:31:48I um had seen envisioned a a nice Center
3:31:52here in alvare on the outskirts of um
3:31:55Fort Worth I'm about I'd say 20 miles
3:31:58from Fort Worth and I was at love this
3:32:01Lake area and I had envisioned a center
3:32:04where people would come and take my
3:32:06classes that's what I wanted and when I
3:32:10got booked
3:32:11royalties from a young man that um took
3:32:14my book and put it on direct mail he had
3:32:18a vision to go to India and he's he went
3:32:21to in we he had a vision I'd make a
3:32:23million and he'd make a million well
3:32:25this happened and so I was able to to
3:32:29build a center out here and live here
3:32:33it's only 5 Acres it's very
3:32:36unpretentious because I just uh uh this
3:32:39is what I wanted so I had people from
3:32:42all over this cotton picking world I had
3:32:45the Ambassador from Trinidad come to
3:32:48spend a week I had people every country
3:32:53came uh just from reading my book and
3:32:55wanting to spend time here for a week or
3:32:59or well most of them a week or two three
3:33:024 days to make it worthwhile and so
3:33:05that's what I continued to do for the
3:33:07last 10 years was just having people and
3:33:11sharing experiences but in the interim
3:33:14um I was invited to Peru and this was in
3:33:18I think 86 uh and I had planed and it's
3:33:22in my book how um I um went there and
3:33:28what what transpired and I I thought
3:33:30well I'll be there a week well I was
3:33:32there two and a half
3:33:34months and I um was um counseling people
3:33:39from the embassy from all the affluent
3:33:42from all walks of life and U it was it
3:33:47well it's just been very very exciting
3:33:50and right now I'm spending my time doing
3:33:52blueprints for people and uh and uh
3:33:56sharing what their potential is some
3:33:59people can't even
3:34:01fathom uh when they came into this
3:34:04lifetime and they chose their parents
3:34:06incidentally and their life is divided
3:34:09into three areas
3:34:11uh the informative the uh productive and
3:34:13the Harvest and so I do blueprints for
3:34:17people now and insightful that uh they
3:34:21can respond to or identify
3:34:24with so what is what is a blueprints
3:34:27purpose like they they kind of tune into
3:34:29where they're at now or um well uh it
3:34:34depends on their age and right now I
3:34:37seem to be getting people in the 50
3:34:40years
3:34:41uh from 50 to about 59 and it runs in
3:34:45Cycles one one one month I had nothing
3:34:48but men
3:34:51men and sometimes 32y old uh men that
3:34:55were writing for their Blueprints and uh
3:34:59they had that information I did um Joe
3:35:02vel's blueprint and he was fascinated
3:35:06because I think uh I led I got on some
3:35:09things that he had had in his dreams and
3:35:12it was sort of
3:35:13Confirmation and so I've done I think
3:35:16two or three um interviews with him and
3:35:19we talk about
3:35:20Blueprints and U so uh that's U one of
3:35:25the things and my after I do blueprint
3:35:29and the people that have had it done I
3:35:32get a lot of letters like a boy did you
3:35:34hit the nail on the head boy was I glad
3:35:37to know this this is confirmation this
3:35:40makes me feel better oh this is the
3:35:42reason I don't like this person it all I
3:35:46mean I have 22 pages of nothing but
3:35:51accept about you it's all about you uh
3:35:54astrology we mentioned that that you
3:35:56were going to do like sort of an example
3:35:58on the air did you want to do that now
3:36:00before we do we have the time I've added
3:36:04time to the
3:36:06clock I've added time so we're still
3:36:09live yeah well
3:36:11uh well yeah um I can I can do one sure
3:36:14sure I can tell you how I go about
3:36:17setting them up I just okay I just need
3:36:21your name and U three people that you
3:36:24would like to know a little bit more
3:36:25about and then after I get it I sit here
3:36:29and I see okay let's see now what are
3:36:33you and what is your birthday and one of
3:36:36the examples would be uh something
3:36:39recent here
3:36:41that U let's say you were born in June
3:36:44on June the 2nd
3:36:471962 so you're um I add up the six and
3:36:51the two and I add up the N the the year
3:36:54you were born which adds up to a nine
3:36:57and U then I add all these up and so it
3:37:00adds up to there's only one digit we
3:37:03always converted to 1 to n cuz this is
3:37:08Pythagoras's technique is what I use so
3:37:11this individual that I'm working with uh
3:37:15would would be the eight the
3:37:18executive and the
3:37:20executive uh is a well they all have um
3:37:25missions I call it they have a mission
3:37:28that that they come in to do and this
3:37:30Mission uh runs through their entire
3:37:34life but in the meantime they have these
3:37:38cycles that they um the as the executive
3:37:43uh you came here to exemplify the
3:37:45righteous use of personal power in order
3:37:49to achieve worthwhile goals and your
3:37:52mission is to use his power and control
3:37:55and your given strength to do this in
3:37:58other words uh to um convey to people
3:38:03information that you find uh important
3:38:07or necessary for their soul growth
3:38:11and this is what you came in to do but
3:38:15your first from age 1 to 28 you were the
3:38:19six which is the June you were born in
3:38:22June six is the cosmic parent uh number
3:38:28vibration so during one from birth to
3:38:32age
3:38:3328 uh you're you're needing uh accepting
3:38:37to need to accept responsibility for
3:38:40others health happiness fair treatment
3:38:43and it's a time that you're to serve and
3:38:46there's a lot of right
3:38:48responsibility uh on you at that
3:38:51particular time and then you move into
3:38:56from age
3:38:5729 to
3:38:5955 you move into a two which is a
3:39:04diplomat and now you're more sensitive
3:39:08and you want to make peace by being
3:39:10willing to adjust and to adapt to others
3:39:14always ready to
3:39:16cooperate uh you can do better with a
3:39:19partnership at this time and because um
3:39:22the two which is a diplomat which is the
3:39:25number that you're in at this particular
3:39:29period is uh it stands for
3:39:32Partnerships and uh closely related to
3:39:35other people and again it's an
3:39:39uplifting uh
3:39:40time for you to be doing this and then
3:39:44from age
3:39:4556 to as long as this person wants to
3:39:48live and you choose the time you die and
3:39:52not maybe what you want to die of but
3:39:54you actually know when you're going to
3:39:56make a transition that's a nine and this
3:40:00is the humanitarian vibration not an
3:40:03easy vibration because now you have to
3:40:07set an example of the real ation and you
3:40:11are getting to be very very spiritual
3:40:14and then you're learning that all life
3:40:16forms are
3:40:18interdependent and you have to cope with
3:40:20things so it takes a lot and lot of
3:40:24understanding but uh the bonus on this
3:40:29is and uh sometime it can become earlier
3:40:32but if you have a nine or a seven in any
3:40:36of your Cycles uh you can experience
3:40:41epies and when these happen and uh when
3:40:44I have feedback when people call and say
3:40:47this happened to me and I well you just
3:40:49had an epiphany let's talk it through
3:40:53and this is uh when beings appear to you
3:40:56and you can see through them and of
3:40:58course uh Jesus I mean the Catholic
3:41:01Church actually has a day a holy day
3:41:05where they have the
3:41:06Epiphany when um Jesus appeared to um
3:41:10some of his
3:41:11disciples and so what you're doing then
3:41:14is you're now in a spiritual realm the
3:41:18spiritual
3:41:20connection uh on that
3:41:22vibration and that's when oh it's it's a
3:41:26such a wonderful
3:41:29Wonder for you because it um it well how
3:41:34can I explain that I get all excited
3:41:39when uh the these people tell me well
3:41:41this is what happened and I said well
3:41:44then you're just doing the right thing
3:41:46and you're where you're supposed to be
3:41:48not to be frightened and um you're being
3:41:52you know finding a little bit more out
3:41:55about the spiritual
3:41:57realm so that's in essence what what
3:42:00what your blueprint is about and it's U
3:42:03something that um you need to look at
3:42:06and sometime you can you have your own
3:42:08answers I'm not not saying that you're
3:42:10not getting your own answers but um it's
3:42:15always good to have
3:42:18confirmation so so how did you I mean
3:42:21this is a
3:42:22a this is a a much
3:42:25more diverse then sort of Law of
3:42:27Attraction what you focus on expands
3:42:30kind of thing how did you get into sort
3:42:32of the intuitive
3:42:35realm um everything that we want to P do
3:42:39is is desire desire is a criteria for
3:42:43everything when you have a
3:42:46desire and you project the desire and
3:42:49you can use the spec to do this I I have
3:42:53the desire to know more about
3:42:56myself I have the desire to know I mean
3:43:01to be uh in the presence of a person
3:43:05place or thing that will teach me me or
3:43:11demonstrate this desire of knowing
3:43:14myself and that's why I went to Peru
3:43:17really because I didn't even want to go
3:43:20that I did not uh project that that was
3:43:25one thing I did not project but I did
3:43:28project that I would be in a place or
3:43:31with people where I could learn more
3:43:34about myself and this is what higher
3:43:37intelligence decided Well you got to go
3:43:39to to Pro kid because when you get over
3:43:42there you're going to have so many
3:43:45experiences that you're not even going
3:43:47to question uh all these aspects about
3:43:52self-awareness that you wanted because I
3:43:55also when I was in Peru I also had a a
3:44:00formula to do this blueprint that I'm
3:44:03using today I've done the blueprint for
3:44:0630 years but also when I got there I had
3:44:11was very very insightful and had more
3:44:15material more information that was given
3:44:18to me and U that's what made it uh so so
3:44:23so exciting when these people would come
3:44:26to me and I'm talking about the affluent
3:44:28they'd come in their armored cars and uh
3:44:31they were paranoid over there uh they'd
3:44:34have these um people come in their
3:44:36guards come in and uh the the
3:44:39entrepreneur
3:44:40that uh invited me initially he heard me
3:44:45uh when I was one of the key speakers
3:44:47with uh uh Jose after um I went into my
3:44:52own U doing my own lecturing and
3:44:54workshops Etc Jose and I remained close
3:44:58friends and uh periodically I would be
3:45:01invited to be one of the key speakers at
3:45:04this International
3:45:06Convention and this young man from Peru
3:45:08was there and heard me lecture and he
3:45:12was uh he
3:45:14was adamant that I come to Peru and
3:45:17spend time with them and I said no I
3:45:20have no desire to go there that's not on
3:45:23my schedule not
3:45:25interested and continued to uh try to
3:45:30discourage him and I just let it go and
3:45:34it was two years later
3:45:37after I did I had um he met me is um the
3:45:42the morning that um I'm busy here and
3:45:46I'm wanting to go to Sedona and find out
3:45:49hey there's got to be some good
3:45:50information there with vortexes and the
3:45:53people that are frequenting this place
3:45:56and that was my U goal but instead he
3:46:01called and out of the blue he called and
3:46:04said you've got to be here uh by this
3:46:08particular date and uh I'll pay all your
3:46:12expenses I will send you to
3:46:14mataichi I what what do you want what
3:46:17else do you want but you have got to be
3:46:20here and something intuitively said must
3:46:24go and I said well my passports in order
3:46:27call me and uh we'll talk
3:46:31tomorrow uh so that this is all in my
3:46:35book and I don't want to give you a book
3:46:36review but that's what
3:46:38happened I understand what you mean
3:46:40about Peru though I I can tell you I've
3:46:42never been the same since that one
3:46:44either it's yeah quite dramatic wow um
3:46:48did you spend the night in the hotel up
3:46:51in
3:46:52maspi uh oh uh yes and in the Middle
3:46:56with my experience was beyond the sort
3:46:59of you know uh tourist areas we went
3:47:02into um the middle of nowhere to check a
3:47:05KIRO and I uh filmed UFOs and all kinds
3:47:10of bizarre communication going on and
3:47:13Cusco oh
3:47:15yes fabulous amazing yes
3:47:18amazing and um but now this all of this
3:47:22conversation that we're talking about
3:47:23this whole I mean it just been an
3:47:26amazing adventure in your life but
3:47:29where's the limit what else have you
3:47:30applied these laws to like have you
3:47:33changed some something physically within
3:47:36yourself you know healthwise or you know
3:47:38where are the limits that we can apply
3:47:40this to that you've experienced if there
3:47:42are
3:47:44any I don't know I'm 85 years old and I
3:47:49have um when I have a physical challenge
3:47:52because we're
3:47:53subjected to the environment to the
3:47:56pollution uh to other energies I don't
3:47:59like to I love my space here because I'm
3:48:03by myself and I love being by myself but
3:48:06there are times that I need to get out
3:48:08in the public and when you're out in the
3:48:11public and this is not paranoid you're
3:48:14picking up energies subtle energies from
3:48:17other people and it's not your your um
3:48:22situation you're just open and you're
3:48:25picking up and then you have to
3:48:27rationalize and analyze who does this
3:48:29belong to me it doesn't belong to me and
3:48:33I went through that
3:48:34phase where I knew that uh if someone
3:48:37was thinking about me and they had a
3:48:40physical challenge I would pick them up
3:48:44mentally and I would have a challenge
3:48:48and I would think it was
3:48:50mine and I would call them or they would
3:48:53call me and I would say what's the
3:48:54matter with your need my gracious and
3:48:58then they would tell me I mean this was
3:48:59their problem not mine but that's the
3:49:02way energy works and so you have to be
3:49:06very Discerning and very very tuned
3:49:10in and uh put an or oric field around
3:49:13you on a continuing basis to protect
3:49:17this this ball of energy you don't need
3:49:20all those outside
3:49:22influences sometime you open yourself
3:49:24and it has to be
3:49:27reinforced so it's um been very very
3:49:31interesting I don't ever applied this
3:49:34law to um you know a physical challenge
3:49:37that came up for you that was yours
3:49:40uh yes I did um I had um uh I have a
3:49:45doctor from another dimension that comes
3:49:47to me and tells me what I'm supposed to
3:49:50be
3:49:51doing and uh I I wrote a whole story
3:49:55about that
3:49:56one and uh it uh it worked yeah it
3:50:00worked I I made um this physical doctor
3:50:04that I was having
3:50:06challenges uh real real um
3:50:09uh challenges of elimination and uh
3:50:12urinating and so forth and uh when I got
3:50:16this physical doctor and he said well
3:50:19you have to now you've let this go you
3:50:22have to go to a uh phys uh you have now
3:50:25my spiritual doctor says you have to go
3:50:28to a pH physical doctor to have it uh
3:50:31balanced because you're still in a
3:50:34physical and I didn't care for that but
3:50:37he says one thing I want you to know
3:50:40everything's going to be fine even at
3:50:42that age I was
3:50:4469 uh he said uh always throughout this
3:50:48entire ordeal you have a sense of
3:50:51humor and the sense of humor with this
3:50:54okay I go to this doctor and he does um
3:50:57uh takes X-rays and things and I come
3:51:00back for his evaluation and he tells me
3:51:04that um I had this mambas tumor growth
3:51:08there in between uh well someplace in in
3:51:12the anatomy it had to be removed but um
3:51:16there's uh it looks like there it's
3:51:19cancerous because U there's so much
3:51:22other uh uh indications around it and he
3:51:26couldn't perform a surgery I had to go
3:51:29to an oologist or orology or whatever a
3:51:34doctor that uh uh treated cancer so I
3:51:38was and over in Dallas I went to this uh
3:51:42surgeon got into his office now I I take
3:51:46along my uh my U blueprint
3:51:51my pictures that he took of me X-ray
3:51:56pictures I get there and this young
3:51:58doctor uh greets me and he's got these
3:52:02pictures up now he's trying to uh show
3:52:05me and he said see this Mass here and I
3:52:08said is it a boy or a girl and he looked
3:52:12at me and he said what do you mean I
3:52:14said is it a boy or a girl well of
3:52:17course then immediately thought I'm
3:52:19having mental problems I was trying to
3:52:22be do a joke you know and I I said he he
3:52:26said Mrs hadel this is serious and I
3:52:29said lighten up lighten up don't you
3:52:31ever read the national inquire space
3:52:34aliens are coming down impregnating us
3:52:37all the time and I mean he looked at me
3:52:41like wow and I said joke time joke time
3:52:46now this is how stupid it was but I made
3:52:50this whole thing into a joke an absolute
3:52:54joke and then when he said to me um
3:52:58you're going to have to consent to have
3:53:00blood test I mean uh blood because um at
3:53:04your age uh we have always problems of
3:53:08um uh losing too much blood and we have
3:53:10to sometime
3:53:12transfusions I said well I'm glad you
3:53:14told me that because I can stop the
3:53:16bleeding and he said what I said well
3:53:19you've heard of Mind Over Matter see
3:53:22this is a Technique we got we were given
3:53:25in the Sila training mind over matter
3:53:28and I well I'll stop the bleeding for
3:53:30you and now he knows that I'm crazy he
3:53:34know he thinks there's got to be
3:53:36something mentally wrong with me and I
3:53:39said 'y yeah I will and then he Saidi do
3:53:42this in U well we'll set it up in about
3:53:45let's say two or three weeks I said no
3:53:47you won't you're doing this was a Friday
3:53:50and I said you're doing this Monday
3:53:52morning I said I have to be at a
3:53:56convention in bero in three weeks and
3:53:59I'm one of the key speakers and I can't
3:54:01let Jose down and now again he said I
3:54:06can't do this and I said don't just sit
3:54:08there get on the telephone and make it
3:54:11happen he gets on the phone because he
3:54:14needs another doctor in surgery and the
3:54:17anesthesist and uh the hosp the
3:54:20operating room Etc and within 15 minutes
3:54:25he has me scheduled for Monday to have
3:54:28surgery because I want to GI over with
3:54:31and that was it and then I get in there
3:54:33and Monday uh morning I spend the night
3:54:36there they have a a hotel there at that
3:54:40particular hospital my husband and I and
3:54:43I get in there and uh when I wake up
3:54:46from all of the uh surgery anesthesist
3:54:50I've got the um the anesthesist and I've
3:54:53got the other doctor and the nurses all
3:54:56and my husband standing around my bed
3:54:59and this anesthesist said I just want to
3:55:01know one thing how did you stop the
3:55:03bleeding he said you didn't
3:55:05bleed and so anyway these are things
3:55:08like
3:55:09like I don't know what limits you have
3:55:12or what limits you put on yourself I
3:55:14don't know but when I met Paul twitchel
3:55:18uh have you ever heard of eken car the
3:55:21ancient scientist okay I knew Paul
3:55:24personally and uh when he came I never
3:55:28solicited him he came to my home to meet
3:55:31me and so did Dr Joseph Murphy powers of
3:55:36the subconscious mind they came to uh
3:55:40Irving uh when I lived in Irving to meet
3:55:43me and so I had nothing to do with it
3:55:46but I was to learn from these people and
3:55:48I think that's how it was set
3:55:51up but anyway uh Paul was saying that um
3:55:55his um his guide or his mentor or
3:55:59whatever uh was in the Himalayas and he
3:56:02was 300 years old and while he was
3:56:05sitting there with my husband and my
3:56:07friend Ellen
3:56:09and uh when she brought him to meet me
3:56:12that night because he was going to have
3:56:14a lecture in Dallas and I wasn't going
3:56:17to go I I had no intention of going to
3:56:19his lecture cuz he was charging $50 for
3:56:233 hours and I said that's ludicrous not
3:56:26going and uh when he got off the plane
3:56:29he said uh he want he wants to meet me
3:56:33and she brought him to my home this was
3:56:36at 9 at night and uh while we're sitting
3:56:39there talking I'm looking and this tall
3:56:42being is standing beside him and uh I'm
3:56:46uh you know I I still think well is it
3:56:49the light that's forming something you
3:56:52know like clouds you can see uh designs
3:56:56and clouds Etc Is My Mind Playing Tricks
3:57:00and finally Paul looked at me he said uh
3:57:03something seems to be bothering you and
3:57:05I said yes I I have this very
3:57:08imagination and I See This Tall Man
3:57:11Behind beside you and he's barefooted
3:57:14and he's smiling I said wow my
3:57:18imagination is going uh rampant tonight
3:57:22and he laughed and he said no that's
3:57:24revisar Taurus and um if he bothers you
3:57:29I'll send him
3:57:30away so this was not a thought for him
3:57:33it was actually uh he came by his own
3:57:37relation and we got a big charge out of
3:57:40that and so uh he came uh I I knew Paul
3:57:45there for quite a while until he made
3:57:46his transition and he told me uh when he
3:57:50was going to make his transition and why
3:57:53uh and that was it I mean you know so
3:57:56what else is new
3:57:58now I guess that's always what comes up
3:58:01like if we can if we're able to heal the
3:58:03small thing or you're able to do any
3:58:05kind of Mind Over Matter thing which boy
3:58:07which is the whole others series of
3:58:08shows and you're able to control your
3:58:10blood flow then why do we age at all why
3:58:13do we have to keep you know popping in
3:58:15and out going through all this bother of
3:58:16starting over again uh because there
3:58:19were so many many many people that have
3:58:22this concept and it's taken presidence
3:58:25all of this will
3:58:27change uh our lifespan uh should um well
3:58:32I can get into the metaphysical we're in
3:58:35and out of our bodies on a continuing
3:58:37basis
3:58:39and uh this can go on for 20 or 30 hours
3:58:43honey if I get into all of the things
3:58:47that I have experienced and observed and
3:58:49learned it's
3:58:51just can't end our we can't end our time
3:58:54together on a cliffhanger like that
3:58:56without me inviting you
3:58:57[Music]
3:58:59back we have to do this
3:59:03again well we'll think you know whatever
3:59:07whatever
3:59:09okay but I have it all I I've written
3:59:12this I have it all in my book it's it's
3:59:15just like a book review that I'm giving
3:59:18you well I'll tell you but it's fun
3:59:20being able to ask you questions in the
3:59:22moment and share you with our listeners
3:59:24who all are going to love you I'm sure
3:59:26so I I would love to have you back and
3:59:28we'll talk I'd like to talk specifically
3:59:31right where we left off just now about
3:59:34metaphysical reality and mind over
3:59:36matter okay well I don't know everything
3:59:41all I can do is share my personal
3:59:43experiences and then you can discern and
3:59:46and take it from there and some it
3:59:48sounds like you've had a few and I I
3:59:49want to hear about them for one so that
3:59:53what's beautiful is some people can
3:59:55identify with it relate to it and that's
3:59:58what's exciting they're not crazy they
4:00:02don't have a brain tumor they're able to
4:00:05to see this detect this and know the
4:00:08things and it's not fortune telling and
4:00:12it's it's completely in a different
4:00:14realm okay okay well on that note I am
4:00:19so grateful for our time together today
4:00:20I can easily see how any film crew would
4:00:23be filming for eight hours and and still
4:00:26want more no doubt so I really
4:00:28appreciate you being here and we'll get
4:00:30you back on really soon okay okay then
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4:00:34Ang thank you take care and if you've
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4:01:26Whitney okay we're live I'm Nicole with
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4:02:07Adventures she's had over the many years
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4:07:10and we're live I'm Nicole this is news
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4:07:15from the uplifting to the
4:07:17Unexplained can't imagine not having
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4:07:20conversation last week on Sunday we
4:07:23introduce you to one Helen hsel who is
4:07:26an amazing living example of really
4:07:29living and being the Law of Attraction
4:07:32for many many years she has uh won every
4:07:36contest she's entered and applied the
4:07:37this to her life in many ways uh in much
4:07:40deeper levels beyond that so today we're
4:07:43kind of having part two of the
4:07:44discussion where we left off hopefully
4:07:46we'll start there um let's welcome her
4:07:49on and start the fun Helen welcome back
4:07:51to news for the soul I'm here Hi how are
4:07:55you today great great I was just
4:07:58listening uh to your entree and it
4:08:01reminded me of Peru you must have a tape
4:08:04of Peru you know where the whistles
4:08:08oh and just before you got on the
4:08:11air yes i' I've actually got some very
4:08:14interesting audio clips from Peru that
4:08:16you didn't hear there yet but uh we did
4:08:20some interesting work there in uh doing
4:08:23um reliving some of the processes in the
4:08:26sacred sites with the shaman Bridge
4:08:29Jorge Lis Delgado and we had amazing
4:08:31experiences over there but uh yeah it's
4:08:34definitely been a strong influence on me
4:08:36ever since that moment moment of
4:08:38experiencing Peru was very
4:08:40powerful did you visit the egg lady
4:08:43while you were
4:08:44there no who's the egg lady yes uh I was
4:08:49of course I was there two and a half
4:08:50months and so I was able to get into uh
4:08:55places that U not the ordinary person
4:08:57can get into because I I wasn't doing
4:09:00really psychic work I was doing
4:09:03self-awareness
4:09:05classes uh but my the the entrepreneur
4:09:08that sponsored me um introduced me to a
4:09:11lot of interesting people and one was
4:09:14the egg lady and uh she is the Healer
4:09:18there in Lima and when I went there uh
4:09:22what she
4:09:23requires well when you call her she
4:09:25requires that you bring a dozen fresh
4:09:29eggs uh directly from the market and
4:09:33when you get there you're lay you're
4:09:34laying on a cot and uh she puts her
4:09:38takes an egg and runs it over your body
4:09:42and then um she just uh is sort of
4:09:44mumbling and whatever it is and then she
4:09:47breaks the egg in front of you and uh
4:09:51sometime there's black in it sometimes
4:09:53there's blood in it sometimes there's
4:09:55just like go really and then she
4:09:59deposits that in a container and you're
4:10:02watching this whole procedure and then
4:10:05she'll tell you well um someone is given
4:10:08evil thoughts to you and it's
4:10:11concentrated in your stomach or uh in
4:10:14your throat or whatever and she
4:10:17continues to do this until uh the eggs
4:10:21are clear you know where there's no more
4:10:23of this uh information anything that's
4:10:27negative in it and then uh you get up
4:10:30and you see all this EG these eggs and
4:10:33the gok and so forth now you have a
4:10:35clear egg and then you you give her the
4:10:38money for what you think it's worth
4:10:40donation and then you're healed and then
4:10:43you walk out and you feel great well wow
4:10:47yes yes yes and so when I uh when I was
4:10:51doing uh the workshop over there one of
4:10:55the students uh highly recommended her
4:10:58and said she'd never gone to a doctor
4:11:00because the egg lady could heal her and
4:11:03I thought this I've got to see so we
4:11:06made an appointment
4:11:08and I get over there and I have my dozen
4:11:10eggs and I get into her inner sanctum
4:11:13and I'm about L to lay on the C and she
4:11:17looks at me and she said you know what
4:11:21I'm
4:11:22doing why are you
4:11:24here and I first a minute I was a little
4:11:28startled and I said uh no I'm sincere
4:11:31and she said are you trying to um
4:11:34disprove me or are are you um here
4:11:39monitoring me or whatever and then I
4:11:42said no no well then I realized you know
4:11:45she has tremendous
4:11:47sense sensed that I wasn't legit and I
4:11:51said no I was actually here for a
4:11:54healing and she said you don't need a
4:11:57healing you know what I'm doing well
4:11:59then we finally I established the report
4:12:03and I found out that um her mother did
4:12:06this her grandmother did this in the
4:12:08Villages and that's the way they made
4:12:11their income was doing this and then I
4:12:15also realized when you're in the
4:12:18presence of someone that has tremendous
4:12:21abilities you know Mind Over Matter
4:12:24abilities um what you're seeing as she's
4:12:28depositing these eggs into this thing uh
4:12:31she's creating thoughts and then you can
4:12:36something like the sacred in India you
4:12:38know that um uh illusion is what it is
4:12:43and so illusion was what actually what
4:12:46she was doing there were no to my to my
4:12:51knowledge there wasn't any black in an
4:12:53egg or blood in an egg or anything it
4:12:56was just illusion and she was projecting
4:12:58it to you and you could see it and so I
4:13:02thought now that's interesting but I I
4:13:05said no no no I said I just came here to
4:13:08meet you and um and I'm glad that you're
4:13:11able to help people to help themselves
4:13:14cuz a lot of these things are
4:13:17psychosomatic and eventually they'll be
4:13:19healed anyway so if you can convince
4:13:22them that they can do this and then more
4:13:25power to you I'm so glad I met you and
4:13:28then we left on a good note so that was
4:13:32great
4:13:35wow you found that there was was it all
4:13:39thought form was there any you I mean
4:13:41did you feel it was beyond just changing
4:13:44thoughts anything legitimate going on
4:13:47physically with it uh no no no h no this
4:13:50is all illusion this is all
4:13:54illusion and uh because she immediately
4:13:56knew that I mean you know she broke an
4:13:59egg uh I would not I mean you can't put
4:14:04the let's say put the bull over my eyes
4:14:07I've been in I've been in this long
4:14:09enough to know uh what people can do and
4:14:13yes several times I've been fooled in
4:14:16this research that I do I'm not um naive
4:14:21I'm not a skeptic I just observe and I
4:14:25want to understand and I discern discern
4:14:28discern in every area that I get into uh
4:14:33while I was there also I was um very um
4:14:38well I could say sought after because
4:14:40this entrepreneur that invited me um own
4:14:44the radio station the discotek and uh
4:14:48was very very wealthy and he had
4:14:50influential friends and so these people
4:14:53would come for a um uh I took the tarot
4:14:57cards and you know doing the tarot has
4:14:59nothing to do with uh what you pick up
4:15:02when you're reading for people you're
4:15:04sitting beside them in their all
4:15:07and you can read him I mean so what else
4:15:10is new I think everybody has this
4:15:13capability but they don't realize it and
4:15:16so that's in essence what I was doing
4:15:19and then most of the people uh spoke uh
4:15:24English and there were a few of them
4:15:27that um uh I couldn't communicate with
4:15:30um on this basis but when I first got
4:15:33into
4:15:34Peru uh my friend that uh sponsored me
4:15:38had a a morning coffee for me where all
4:15:42his wealthy friends
4:15:44came and as I was standing there uh a
4:15:48woman that was an artist and originally
4:15:51came from uh from I believe from Russia
4:15:56came in and embraced me and start
4:15:59sobbing and said she was so glad to see
4:16:01me again and I kind of looked at her and
4:16:04then all of a sudden it rang a bell and
4:16:07I said uh were we nuns together in Spain
4:16:10and she said yes yes yes I never thought
4:16:13I would meet you again and she said
4:16:16while you're here I'm going to interpret
4:16:19for you I speak seven
4:16:21languages and uh you're going to be here
4:16:24for several months and we're really
4:16:26going to have an
4:16:28interesting uh exchange of ideas and uh
4:16:32from that point on we
4:16:35were we were were hooked together
4:16:39continuously uh many times I was invited
4:16:42to very wealthy homes on the outskirts
4:16:46of Peru they would come in their
4:16:48chauffeur limousines with their guards
4:16:52and then take me on the premise and I
4:16:54was uh I saw some things there that
4:16:58would just Boggle my mind uh some of
4:17:01these wealthy land owners had their own
4:17:04bakeries they had made service and one
4:17:08one particular F family that I spent
4:17:12several days with and she was very
4:17:15impressed she wanted me to stay there as
4:17:17her house guest for two months which I
4:17:20declined but the morning I got there um
4:17:24she had U her bake her her maid came in
4:17:29with a loaf of bread and she said he
4:17:31made it just for me that I could cut it
4:17:35and he made it with love and and it was
4:17:37it was a fun fun thing uh even if I
4:17:41couldn't communicate with some of their
4:17:44their language I could still uh you know
4:17:47pick up their energy and it was all very
4:17:50very um satisfying comforting
4:17:55rewarding and when I was there there was
4:17:57riding on the streets and curfew but I
4:18:01never I never was
4:18:03apprehensive even when I was in Cusco
4:18:07and you know you would look go on the
4:18:09streets and you were told never to wear
4:18:11jewelry or uh purses or anything they
4:18:14would cut off your ear or cut off your
4:18:17finger for a a ring or at least that's
4:18:21what I was told but I never I mean you
4:18:24put the um uh protective light around
4:18:28you you don't worry about this so I
4:18:31would just go where I wanted to go do
4:18:33what I wanted to do and even one of the
4:18:36the um um one of the young men that uh
4:18:41was the desk clerk at the whole the five
4:18:44star hotel that I stayed in in
4:18:47Cusco uh he just couldn't believe that I
4:18:50would go out on my own without a guard
4:18:53he insisted that somebody go with me and
4:18:57I said no no I wasn't concerned about
4:19:00this so it was it was a an interesting
4:19:03thing and then uh when I went into Cusco
4:19:06I could see through walls when I went
4:19:09into the um monasteries and were you
4:19:12know when the um uh when the Spain
4:19:15Spaniards came over and took all the
4:19:18gold from the perubian and um brought
4:19:22over their belief systems that U if you
4:19:25didn't believe in Jesus and and their
4:19:28Concepts that uh you would be
4:19:31annihilated and it was a a very very sad
4:19:35period in history
4:19:37because of the power and greed mode in
4:19:41the name of Jesus or in the name of the
4:19:45uh religion that they believed in but it
4:19:49was all greed and power and it was a
4:19:52very sad sad
4:19:54situation I I just would go around and
4:19:57observe didn't make a big fuss about it
4:20:00and um one time we were invited uh I was
4:20:05invited to a home uh one of the women
4:20:07there that is very very very psychic and
4:20:11uh she worked for the government uh I
4:20:14spend a day with her uh she said she
4:20:17would lay out maps of Peru and then run
4:20:21her fingers uh through the map big big
4:20:25big uh table they had for her uh and she
4:20:29could tell when there would be
4:20:31earthquakes and she would warn the
4:20:33people in that particular area to move
4:20:37out of that area because there were
4:20:40always underlining earthquake or
4:20:43earthquakes there and U she wasn't she
4:20:46was very
4:20:48unpretentious and then while we were
4:20:50there I also uh was invited to a private
4:20:54home where this man indicated that um
4:20:58there was a man in the environment there
4:21:02that claimed he was from the planet
4:21:04trone TR r u n e I've never heard of
4:21:08that planet and he said the man would
4:21:12come and he would write uh in any
4:21:17language that uh he wanted to write he
4:21:21said he was uh Diversified he was
4:21:24intelligent and uh the man that claimed
4:21:28we went to his home uh as uh guests
4:21:32there and with four or five of the other
4:21:34followers of this man that came from
4:21:37trone and I said well I'd like to see
4:21:40him and uh the man that owned the home
4:21:43there said well he's not available and
4:21:46he comes in and out and we never know
4:21:50when he's here and he was going on and
4:21:53on about how important he was and how he
4:21:57would um write um information and then
4:22:02he started showing me what the
4:22:04information was and it was in
4:22:07a different language that I couldn't um
4:22:09read couldn't even understand but one of
4:22:12the gals that was there interpreted uh
4:22:17translated it for me and it just sounded
4:22:20like our Bible you know there was
4:22:23nothing profound you know the Ten
4:22:25Commandments do unto others as you would
4:22:28you know uh it was it was all positive
4:22:32all positive and he said he claimed that
4:22:35if we practiced uh these principles
4:22:40there would be no more Wars there would
4:22:42be no more illness and he came in peace
4:22:46and he was going to uh start out in Peru
4:22:51and so I thought well this is very
4:22:52interest but I I said don't you have a
4:22:55picture of them uh what nothing and the
4:22:59man he said no he you can't take his
4:23:02picture and I said can you describe him
4:23:04and he said well yes
4:23:06I can describe them and then something
4:23:09else happened and I was sitting beside
4:23:12uh the woman that U uh does the reads
4:23:16the maps and all of a sudden I said uh
4:23:20do you see this man in the corner that's
4:23:23looking at us and she said no but I can
4:23:26feel them and I said I said well I can
4:23:30see him um I wonder if he's a thought
4:23:33form or is he you know comes from his
4:23:36own valtion which sometimes you call an
4:23:40epiphany and uh he was just there
4:23:43smiling and in a minute uh he smiled and
4:23:46he faded away and she said well I felt
4:23:50uh tremendous energy and I knew it
4:23:54wasn't with any of the five of us that
4:23:56were in that room and then I asked our
4:23:59host I said uh can you describe the man
4:24:03that uh you claim comes periodically in
4:24:06and out and writes all these things and
4:24:10uh I said well let me describe him and I
4:24:11described him and he said oh you saw him
4:24:15and I said well did you see him a little
4:24:16while ago and he was preoccupied with
4:24:20something but things like that just
4:24:24fascinate me and what fascinates me more
4:24:27is when someone can see what I see
4:24:31without sitting beside me because if you
4:24:34sit beside me then you can Pro probably
4:24:37see the same thing that I can so I want
4:24:40to remove myself completely and then
4:24:45you're on your own so what do you see I
4:24:49me that that always intrigued
4:24:53me well yeah when you're getting
4:24:55validation like that and you're having
4:24:57your own direct experience with it you
4:24:59know that's that's so powerful that's
4:25:01like about a billion questions I want to
4:25:03ask you of course but you know we don't
4:25:04have time for a billion so
4:25:06well that was per that was part well
4:25:09there were so many other things uh I
4:25:12Christmas day I was at a mental
4:25:15institution um uh one of the um women
4:25:19that came to for readings husband was in
4:25:21there and I uh her guide I mean his
4:25:25guide appeared while I was uh while I
4:25:28was um talking to her and he wanted to
4:25:31get out of this uh
4:25:33institution and so I didn't say anything
4:25:36anything and she said I said well why
4:25:38don't you release him and then you can
4:25:40you lead he can lead his life you can
4:25:43lead your life and that's it and she
4:25:45said uh well uh he's still I'm still
4:25:49fearful of him uh uh I will have my
4:25:53driver pick you up and we'll take you to
4:25:55this uh to visit him Sunday which was
4:25:58Christmas and I said okay she said he's
4:26:02not even going to know we're coming or
4:26:03anything I just want you to
4:26:06observe him study him and then if you
4:26:09tell me it's okay then I will release
4:26:12him because he'd been there three four
4:26:14years and uh the rules in Peru you know
4:26:18when you're in a mental institution your
4:26:21um funds are
4:26:22frozen and uh she was without money and
4:26:25they were very very wealthy and so it
4:26:29wasn't details that you're not
4:26:31interested in but as I'm walking up this
4:26:34is a private uh mental
4:26:37institution as uh my driver and she are
4:26:42driving were drove up and we're coming
4:26:45to the door to open uh the guard is
4:26:48opening the door and this man comes
4:26:51hurrying toward me and he comes over to
4:26:53me he said you're getting you're the one
4:26:56that's going to get me out of here and I
4:26:59said well why don't we
4:27:02talk so that that's always oh always
4:27:06always interesting you know uh when I
4:27:10don't um really and truly set anything
4:27:13up uh one other experience that you're
4:27:16just going to I mean this is just so far
4:27:19off the wall it's unreal I wanted to
4:27:22levitate and this was so important to me
4:27:25my God if Thomas aquinus 240 lbs can
4:27:29levitate surely I can levitate I mean
4:27:32it's just I want to levitate and I would
4:27:36meditate and then I would think well
4:27:38today I can levitate and I would walk
4:27:41get in the tub and think maybe I could
4:27:44walk on water and nothing happened you
4:27:46know and this was so funny cuz my
4:27:48husband kept saying you're an idiot and
4:27:50I said no I'm going to levitate and I'm
4:27:53not going to let go until I do well I uh
4:27:58at that time I was on lecture tour and I
4:28:00going up was up in Chicago and I had
4:28:03just done a talk show and I'm getting
4:28:05ready to at night to um have a um what I
4:28:09just call an an introductory lecture uh
4:28:13most of these people wanted to be
4:28:14winners and actually what I did the
4:28:17first night was uh do a book review on
4:28:20the name it and claim it game and then I
4:28:22would say if there's anyone that wants
4:28:24to know more about themselves and then
4:28:27Saturday and Sunday I would do
4:28:29workshops and anyway I was just getting
4:28:33ready to do my program uh when um the SP
4:28:37man sponsored me he says there's an old
4:28:39man that wants to talk to you now I want
4:28:42to tell you something I had never
4:28:45mentioned to anyone on the air or
4:28:49anybody knew that I had this desire to
4:28:52levitate except myself and my husband
4:28:55there only two people that knew but this
4:28:59old man approaches me and said honey you
4:29:02don't want to levitate and I said what
4:29:06he said uh you don't want to levitate
4:29:09and I said why why do you say that he
4:29:11said well while they were on the talk
4:29:13show uh your guides told me to um
4:29:17approach you you don't want to levitate
4:29:19young lady he said it's a nuisance he
4:29:23said I do this and uh I'm living in the
4:29:26country and I have my dog and I like to
4:29:28walk the woods and in the morning when I
4:29:31levitate he said it's such a nuisance I
4:29:34have to hang by a tree until I finally
4:29:38am grounded but if you're going to
4:29:40insist on it he said pretend like you're
4:29:44uh waving in water you know with your
4:29:47hands uh paddling in water like you're
4:29:50swimming and he says that's the only way
4:29:52you can be balanced uh when you're off
4:29:55the ground and he was so serious and I
4:29:59thought well I said thank you for that
4:30:03information and I appreciate it then he
4:30:05walk fed off and uh the uh man that
4:30:08sponsored me what was that all about he
4:30:11was so insistent on talking to you and I
4:30:14said oh we'll discuss it later and then
4:30:16I I didn't but then I came back home and
4:30:19it was about a month or two later uh one
4:30:23morning uh I can't describe it it was a
4:30:26feeling of euphoric it's it's such a
4:30:30feeling that uh uh you can do anything
4:30:34but I decided I was going to go to the
4:30:36little chapel right where I lived in mos
4:30:39cleus in in Irving they had this um
4:30:43Catholic Chapel which is about two
4:30:46blocks actually from where I and I
4:30:48decided to go there and to
4:30:51meditate and I got out of the car and
4:30:54was feeling just so all of a sudden I'm
4:30:59in I'm levitating about I'd say about 3
4:31:02in off the ground well there's a path
4:31:05that goes down and there steps but there
4:31:08weren't any railings there was nothing
4:31:10to hang on to and I am
4:31:14petrified here I am a a little above and
4:31:18I'm wobbling and I dis Hur into and
4:31:23would you believe I uh paddled like I
4:31:26would if I was swimming until I finally
4:31:30got to the front of the church and they
4:31:33had a pillar there and I put my my arms
4:31:36around that pillar and I said okay
4:31:39enough
4:31:42already I'm talking to anybody that can
4:31:45hears me in the Unseen World and then a
4:31:48bunch of students at down go to the
4:31:50college there I walked up and I'm still
4:31:54there
4:31:56hanging that post that was so ridiculous
4:32:00and then I got into the chapel and I
4:32:02says okay take it away from me I don't
4:32:06want this
4:32:06[Music]
4:32:10anymore decided I didn't need to
4:32:13levitate but it's why see to me life is
4:32:17either a daring Adventure or nothing and
4:32:20I'm telling you I
4:32:23would get in with people or places or
4:32:26things that um each time I came home
4:32:30from a a lecture tour I'd be on maybe
4:32:34two three weeks my son who was going to
4:32:36college that time and my husband and my
4:32:39son would say don't tell that any
4:32:41anything until I get home I want to hear
4:32:44[Music]
4:32:46it because it was always it was always
4:32:50so different so different so I I'm so
4:32:55pleased that my guides or maybe it's my
4:32:58vivid imagination I can't prove anything
4:33:01all I can say is I'm so pleased that I
4:33:04was a able to um have all these
4:33:09experiences and most of them are uh to
4:33:13me are very credible uh to me actually
4:33:16happened and there's no logical
4:33:19explanation except people will say well
4:33:22uh you're lucky or it's a coincidence or
4:33:26it's a happen stance and I don't believe
4:33:28in that anymore I don't believe in
4:33:31coincidences there's just no way because
4:33:33there were just too many things that
4:33:36happened uh when I was working for
4:33:39Jose's PR uh he um wanted me to go and
4:33:44open the Chicago area and I said um I
4:33:48don't want to get on a plane I'm not
4:33:51that qualified uh to to handle all this
4:33:56get yourself another
4:33:58girl he would say to me we'll talk about
4:34:02it and uh that night I came home and I
4:34:05said said you know he thinks I'm going
4:34:06to go to Chicago and find a suitable
4:34:09meeting place put ads in the paper for
4:34:11him I'm not going to do it I don't want
4:34:13to do it I don't need to do it and my
4:34:16husband uh who was very grounded and
4:34:20really and truly we were married 60
4:34:23years so uh I think he needed me and I
4:34:26needed him but anyway he said you've
4:34:28taken the Cil classes why don't you
4:34:31practice what you preach because I
4:34:33didn't uh really care enjoy being on a
4:34:36plane I had some kind of a some kind of
4:34:40a phobia over I just didn't care for it
4:34:43and so I became uh hurt actually because
4:34:47he's siding now with Jose and Jose left
4:34:51that for back home and I'm supposed to
4:34:53now make all these arrangements to go to
4:34:57to Chicago well that next morning after
4:35:01a night of acting like a child and
4:35:03pouting I said there my husband was off
4:35:06to work kids were gone and I said okay
4:35:10if I'm supposed to go to Chicago
4:35:11somebody better help me if this is
4:35:14supposed to be that Jose goes in there
4:35:18and um and shares his
4:35:21experiences then I need some help
4:35:24here uh I swear it was not 10 minutes
4:35:28later when the phone rang and it was Mrs
4:35:32had says yeah I'm Mary green and that's
4:35:35her name and she said um I uh read an
4:35:40article in pageant magazine a
4:35:43publication that's no longer uh
4:35:45available but uh there was an article
4:35:48that I WR co-wrote with someone about
4:35:51entering contests and she said I read
4:35:54about you in this um article I'm not
4:35:58interested in contesting but you said
4:36:01one paragraph about Jose and how you
4:36:05stop the bleeding with mind over matter
4:36:08I must meet this man where can I attend
4:36:12one of his classes and I said well uh uh
4:36:16I'm supposed to uh come
4:36:19to Chicago and set up a seatable meeting
4:36:22place and do ads in the paper and have a
4:36:25room full of U of people for him when he
4:36:28comes oh no you don't have to do that
4:36:31she said I'm a Sho represent I represent
4:36:35uh a shoe company here and uh I make all
4:36:40arrangements for various companies that
4:36:42come in here for
4:36:44conventions so I'll find you I'll get
4:36:46your room free and uh I will put ads in
4:36:50the paper and what else can I do for you
4:36:53you don't have to come here and I'm
4:36:55sitting
4:36:56there I'm saying oh my
4:37:02God this this is what happened
4:37:05all the while I worked for that
4:37:08man things were happening that I was
4:37:12amazed absolutely
4:37:15amazed and she set up all of this for me
4:37:18we didn't have to do a
4:37:20thing it happened the same way when I
4:37:23was to go to
4:37:24Detroit uh there was a man that
4:37:26volunteered I never even said anything
4:37:29all I did was
4:37:31telepathically communicate and I would
4:37:34say somebody someplace has got to help
4:37:38me and the phone would ring and there
4:37:41would be an answer now we can't do this
4:37:45on a physical we're having help from
4:37:49other G from other Realms that's the
4:37:52only way I can explain it
4:37:55logically cuz this happened on a
4:37:57continuing
4:38:00basis was there a lot of Mind Over
4:38:02Matter work in the silver training
4:38:05um it was probably one of the most
4:38:11fantastic uh mental training classes you
4:38:14could have at that time because you know
4:38:17in the 40s and the 50s everything was
4:38:19the work of the devil uh this was U uh
4:38:23some lot of the the newspapers wouldn't
4:38:27even let us put ads in their paper
4:38:30because it was the work of the devil and
4:38:33so there was difficult y uh advertising
4:38:37it and Jose was so low keyed and he knew
4:38:42uh in fact um when I start working for
4:38:45him and uh uh he says don't tell him
4:38:48this don't tell him this uh one night uh
4:38:52he was talking and uh we had about I'd
4:38:55say about 40 or 50 in that particular
4:38:58class but I would sit in back of the
4:39:00room because uh I would always have to
4:39:04be there you know to uh sign people in
4:39:07and to answer questions and to have the
4:39:09coffee pot ready during breaks Etc and I
4:39:12would sit there and I would be amazed at
4:39:15all the people that were around Jose
4:39:18that were not in seats I mean from other
4:39:21dimensions they were all all just as far
4:39:24as I could see these were beings of
4:39:28people and one night I'm sitting there
4:39:31and I'm looking because here's some
4:39:33people now that I hadn't really seen
4:39:36that are about I'd say 12 14 feet tall
4:39:40skinny long long just longlook people
4:39:44and they're all uh just standing there
4:39:47behind Jose during the break a little
4:39:50woman comes up to me and she said I'd
4:39:53like to ask you something she said um
4:39:57I've uh seen in these other
4:39:59dimensions uh as far as back as I can
4:40:02remember but she says to night I'm
4:40:06seeing these tall people that are 12 or
4:40:1114t tall I've never seen those before uh
4:40:16do you see this and I said well I'll ask
4:40:19Jose so I got to Jose and I said well I
4:40:24said um uh we're seeing something
4:40:26different tonight here this little old
4:40:29lady in me and he said oh he said
4:40:33they're from Venus
4:40:35and then he walked
4:40:37off so I told her I said they're from
4:40:41Venus and she said oh I said why did you
4:40:45come here and she said uh I U heard uh
4:40:49about him we were he was uh we had a
4:40:52radio talk show that day and uh she said
4:40:55I heard and my guides told me that I had
4:40:57to come and to meet him and to take his
4:41:00class that's how she got there but uh
4:41:04look those were things like so what else
4:41:06is
4:41:09new you know I keep thinking that that I
4:41:12mean you either never shut yourself down
4:41:16from these experiences or you must have
4:41:18had some really dramatic things happen
4:41:20before all of this came about you know
4:41:22when you were a
4:41:24child yes yes uh at um the age of I
4:41:28think a three or four uh when um I was
4:41:31born a Catholic and raised a Catholic
4:41:34and everything was church Etc and my
4:41:37grandmother had this huge picture of an
4:41:40Angel and she always talked about the
4:41:43Angels you know taking care of me Etc
4:41:47and then when my granddad became so ill
4:41:49with asthma and he was on his deathbed
4:41:53uh she said the Angels were going to
4:41:55come to take him and so the funeral I
4:41:59mean he was in the bed and all the
4:42:01family was surrounded with the family
4:42:03and I'm just a little kid playing with
4:42:06my cousins and nephews and nieces in the
4:42:09back and the old the older people uh
4:42:12were in the house and the priest had
4:42:14just come to perform um uh extra motion
4:42:19you know last right but um we were as
4:42:23grandchildren we were called in to uh
4:42:26say goodbye to Granddaddy and so we all
4:42:30went in and grandmother was sitting in
4:42:32her chair and she said the angel were
4:42:34coming to get him and I assumed this
4:42:37Angel was coming to get him and so after
4:42:41we went out I insisted that I wanted to
4:42:45be in the room uh to watch the angel
4:42:48come and get him and my mother couldn't
4:42:51control me I mean I was creating a scene
4:42:54and she said all right you can stay in
4:42:57here but she said don't you say a word
4:43:00well I get in there with all the
4:43:01grown-ups and they're at the foot of his
4:43:03bed and and the priest is there and all
4:43:07of a sudden through the wall about I'd
4:43:10say eight or nine people walk through
4:43:13the wall and they're kind of elderly
4:43:15different ages and uh my granddad who is
4:43:19on the bed and you can just gasping sits
4:43:23up in bed
4:43:25smiles and then gets up and they Embrace
4:43:29him and he walks through the wall and
4:43:32while he's walking through the wall wall
4:43:35he's laying on the bed and now there's
4:43:38two grandpas there you know for this
4:43:40little four-year-old or threey old or
4:43:42whatever I was and uh now I'm seeing
4:43:47that uh he's walking through this wall
4:43:49but he's laying there well this sort of
4:43:51perplexed me and after we went out and
4:43:54everybody's crying I told my mother I
4:43:56said well he I said um grandpa didn't
4:44:01have an
4:44:02angel a lot of people came he went with
4:44:05a lot of people but no angel came to
4:44:08take him and she couldn't understand
4:44:11because you know I expected to see this
4:44:14Angel and was rather
4:44:16disappointed and uh she said well my
4:44:19mother always said there you go again
4:44:21with a VI imagination or you're lying
4:44:24don't tell anybody they'll think you're
4:44:26crazy so I squatched all that I I really
4:44:29squatched all that and yet even when
4:44:32people came I'd say
4:44:34uh if I went to mass you know we had to
4:44:37go to mass every morning before we went
4:44:39to school and there would be a funeral
4:44:42there and I I kid you not here would be
4:44:46this casket and this man would be in the
4:44:49funeral but he'd be sitting there
4:44:51looking out at the
4:44:53audience uh there were so much I
4:44:56couldn't understand any of this and I
4:44:59just sort of thought I'm not going to
4:45:01tell anybody they'll think I'm crazy
4:45:03they may even put me in that crazy place
4:45:07that um one of the neighbors had been in
4:45:09for being crazy and I thought if I keep
4:45:12saying that that's what they'll do with
4:45:14me so I never I never discussed any of
4:45:17this I just let it go and then when I
4:45:20was 17 years old I had romatic fever and
4:45:25I was in bed and really incapacitated
4:45:29and at that time there wasn't anything
4:45:32they could do except bed rest and
4:45:34linament and then penicillin about that
4:45:37time came out and uh the local doctor
4:45:41would come and U monitor me and give me
4:45:45a shot of penicillin well one morning uh
4:45:49he came and he said he can't do that
4:45:52anymore because on my heart uh now I've
4:45:57uh uh there's a valve that's open my
4:45:59heart is enlarged leakage of the heart
4:46:02and so forth um she's allergic to it
4:46:06can't give her any more aspirin and he
4:46:08says we're just going to have God take
4:46:11over and uh that and I heard him uh and
4:46:15um while he was discussing it with my
4:46:18mother and so that night and I was
4:46:21really you know if you've ever had
4:46:23romatic fever it jumps from one uh area
4:46:27to another it is utter Agony and uh they
4:46:31prayed and so forth but nothing nothing
4:46:33seemed to help it
4:46:35but that night uh I got very angry and I
4:46:39said okay I want to die I'm ready to go
4:46:42I don't want to be here and be a burden
4:46:45any longer and if I can't get up and do
4:46:48anything I'm going to die and that's
4:46:51when this being appeared and he said you
4:46:55can't he said uh you came in here to do
4:46:58something and you haven't started yet
4:47:01you're
4:47:02healed and when said I was healed and I
4:47:06I then uh then he left and I shouted to
4:47:10my mother I said come in here come in
4:47:13and she came in I said this man was here
4:47:15and he said I was healed and she said oh
4:47:18you you just had a dream so she threw
4:47:20back the covers and my uh ankles were
4:47:23still swollen and my arms were swollen
4:47:26and she said see you just had a good a
4:47:29nice dream you're going to be fine
4:47:31you're going to be
4:47:33fine and the next morning I jumped out
4:47:36of bed and I Saidi going back to school
4:47:40I'm
4:47:40Healed and uh she looked at me and she
4:47:43said uh uh well we're no no we're going
4:47:46to call the doctor and see what he
4:47:48thinks and he came by uh later that
4:47:52afternoon and checked me over and he
4:47:55said well he said U I guess it take uh
4:47:59it's taken its course she's perfectly
4:48:02all right let her go back to school
4:48:04and that was um one of the experiences I
4:48:07had at
4:48:0817 so you mentioned the um excuse me you
4:48:13mentioned the levitation which I'm
4:48:15assuming you didn't do anymore no I
4:48:17didn't do anymore did you have any other
4:48:20kind of similar
4:48:21experiences uh with you know teleporting
4:48:25or going through solid things or you
4:48:28know some of the other things we've
4:48:29heard stories about over the
4:48:31years I can't right thought that that I
4:48:35can't remember I can't think I can um I
4:48:38do know that um when I had something
4:48:43people prior to my knowledge of me
4:48:46knowing anything about it things would
4:48:49happen and I always attribute it to uh
4:48:53my U Guardian Angels uh appreciating uh
4:48:58or like clapping of hands or whatever I
4:49:00was doing if I was doing something like
4:49:03a reward you know uh the these things
4:49:07were very prevalent while I was out on
4:49:09the lecture
4:49:11circuit absolutely I mean some of the
4:49:14things that happened to me uh would just
4:49:18well I I would I would squeal with
4:49:21delight because they were uh
4:49:24unexpected uh one case in example I was
4:49:27um June 1st was my birthday and I'm out
4:49:30in some place in California and I'm to
4:49:34had this um workshop on uh Saturday I
4:49:37believe it was and Friday um I went to
4:49:41bed that night and all of a sudden I
4:49:45hear a Born Free that is the song Born
4:49:48Free you know and I'm in this hotel and
4:49:52I'm thinking it's in the middle of the
4:49:54night and what is that um where's that
4:49:58coming from so I go out on the balcony
4:50:00and I thought well maybe uh the room
4:50:03next door was
4:50:04playing music but it was coming in
4:50:08bornfree the whole song and uh what I
4:50:11had done uh the week prior to my
4:50:14birthday I had asked uh do I have any
4:50:19Karma do I have any balancing to do uh
4:50:23that I'm not aware of uh please show me
4:50:27if I do because you know sometime when
4:50:30I'm doing charts I pick up hey you're
4:50:33supposed to to balance this and at that
4:50:36time I wanted to know if I still needed
4:50:39to balance something well uh all I knew
4:50:43uh after I heard Born Free I thought
4:50:46okay this is the first day of the rest
4:50:48of my life my birthday and so evidently
4:50:52I don't have any more karma and I just
4:50:55that's what I assumed and let it go at
4:50:57that well I finished my workshop knowing
4:51:02um well the my sponsor knew I had a
4:51:05birthday and so unbeknown to me she had
4:51:08set up a party in her private home for a
4:51:12few select friends that were attending
4:51:15the class and she said she'd like uh to
4:51:19come and have dinner with uh dinner at
4:51:22her home and I said sure So when I got
4:51:26there uh we went downstairs she had a a
4:51:29manless place and we go downstairs and
4:51:34uh everybody jumped and said happy
4:51:36birthday and she had this cake and this
4:51:38Buffet all laid out but what was so
4:51:41fascinating uh this huge huge huge room
4:51:45there were three
4:51:47Pian I REM recall a red one and a white
4:51:50one and a
4:51:52mahogany and all of a sudden this old
4:51:55old woman shuffles up towards us and she
4:52:00said I want you to meet my mother my
4:52:03mother um was a Pianist and uh she uh
4:52:06was with the philarmonic orchestra and
4:52:10uh this piano was given to her when she
4:52:12was in
4:52:13France and U she still plays and uh what
4:52:17would you like to hear and this
4:52:20woman nuds her daughter and says I know
4:52:25what I'm supposed to play for her and
4:52:28she wobbles on back to the piano and
4:52:33starts playing born
4:52:35freed da da you know with emphasis that
4:52:39the window is
4:52:41vibrated and she plays the whole song of
4:52:45warn free and then she shuffles it back
4:52:48up to us and Pats me and smiles and
4:52:51walks off okay how does this happen I
4:52:55mean what happened here I had no no
4:52:59control over any of this and those were
4:53:02things that would happen happened to me
4:53:05just out of the
4:53:06blue and well out of the blue I would
4:53:09say uh guidance I mean people from other
4:53:13dimensions they have um they have the
4:53:17telepathic
4:53:19abilities uh by communicating uh let's
4:53:23get them in the Here and Now where we're
4:53:26concerned I'm concerned right now I'm
4:53:28going to digress here a minute because
4:53:30I'm concerned about our home security
4:53:33system
4:53:35here that U we're having all of the uh
4:53:38shows now let's say one of them is um uh
4:53:43what is it
4:53:44uh Dash
4:53:46forward pass forward uh some of the um
4:53:51ET shows um many many of the shows that
4:53:56are now being seen uh the Ghost Whisper
4:54:00to some degree some degree to the medium
4:54:03it's Etc that are introducing people to
4:54:07other dimensions other galaxies other
4:54:10universes
4:54:11Etc um well our home security system was
4:54:14concerned about uh point forward is the
4:54:18show was the most recent one and uh they
4:54:22would approach the um writers of these
4:54:25shows and ask where did you get your
4:54:28information they would think there was a
4:54:30leak in um in our govern government that
4:54:34has access to all this information
4:54:37incidentally and so um no uh the writers
4:54:42would say this is vivid
4:54:44imagination uh none of this is vivid
4:54:47imagination uh you are
4:54:49telepathically being told what to write
4:54:53and it sounds like fiction or faction
4:54:56but what it is it's um sort of numbing
4:55:00uh the public uh to when all of this
4:55:04transpires and it's in a ongoing process
4:55:07now in this evolutionary process it's
4:55:11happening uh but it's an upst stepping
4:55:14process and So eventually all of all of
4:55:18us will have this capability uh
4:55:21communicating in other dimensions going
4:55:23to other galaxies other universes
4:55:26Etc light system plant systems and so
4:55:30forth it's just an ongoing process
4:55:34what an interesting note to have to
4:55:36leave it on
4:55:38today oh boy well are we through we are
4:55:42it just Zips by I could talk to you
4:55:44forever I swear to God well I like I
4:55:47like to know people uh my address is a
4:55:51uh well I have um uh uh an email which
4:55:55is U one of them but uh all I do is send
4:55:59in books or do Blueprints and that's
4:56:02delta science
4:56:04but if there's anybody that has had
4:56:06similar experiences or what I I'm here
4:56:09at the house I get phone calls and
4:56:12emails and I love to answer emails
4:56:16because I'm I'm still learning all the
4:56:19time and my email is tap tap
4:56:2488 at
4:56:28call.net
4:56:31tap tap 88
4:56:37atc.net and I just sit here and do
4:56:40people's
4:56:41Blueprints and answer my emails and uh
4:56:45after I do the blueprints if they can
4:56:48call me and they call for an hour or two
4:56:51and we uh I say
4:56:54uh we uh uh discuss World secrets is
4:56:58what I'm saying but U just having a lot
4:57:01of fun here and that's what I'm doing
4:57:04now pardon well I would love to to uh
4:57:07have some more fun talking to you more
4:57:09on the air so if you're up for that
4:57:11let's get in touch and and U schedule
4:57:14another time to get together I can
4:57:16listen to you for hours and hours well
4:57:18if it's meant to be you know it's just
4:57:20uh just one of those things I uh my last
4:57:23book that I wrote the uh the uh
4:57:26Confessions of a sage two years ago I
4:57:30put all these in uh yesterday I got a
4:57:32letter
4:57:33uh well I got an email from a young man
4:57:35and said you knew Dr Joseph Murphy
4:57:38personally and I said 'oh yes and I said
4:57:42when he was my house guest uh we we we
4:57:45discussed some subjects that would blow
4:57:47your mind something that he never put in
4:57:50his books uh but he and Vincent Peele
4:57:54would discuss it and he came P
4:57:57personally when he came into Dallas he
4:57:59called to personally come out and spend
4:58:01the day with me
4:58:03and we discussed things that uh he said
4:58:06I could not put in my books they would
4:58:09think I was practicing I was a witch I
4:58:12couldn't I couldn't put this in my book
4:58:14and these are things now he's gone I can
4:58:18relate I mean I can discuss I mean I'm
4:58:20not talking out of school it's just
4:58:23something we all need to look at our
4:58:26experience let's continue this the
4:58:28system is about to cut us off in 30
4:58:30seconds but let's continue uh you you
4:58:33know next time more more insight stories
4:58:36and and I just uh you know it just any
4:58:39kind of reminder any kind of like I like
4:58:41doing the same thing that you're doing
4:58:43connecting with people hearing their
4:58:44direct experience because I've had many
4:58:46of my own as well and it just validates
4:58:49the the truth of our reality of our
4:58:51being and it's very powerful so I'm
4:58:53really grateful you were here today
4:58:54Helen and I look forward to the next
4:58:56time we can talk on the air well if it's
4:58:58meant to be you know life is either a
4:59:00daring Adventure or nothing
4:59:04yes on that note thank you so much El
4:59:07we'll talk again soon I'm sure it is to
4:59:09be but we'll see all right bye have a
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5:01:19Blog Talk
5:01:21Radio good evening and welcome to
5:01:24another episode of from the contest
5:01:26Queen it is Monday August 4th at 900
5:01:30p.m. and I'm very excited because we
5:01:32have a very special guest tonight I have
5:01:34on the phone with me Helen hadel and she
5:01:37is a woman who won every contest she
5:01:40entered I think we all want to rub her
5:01:41arm for good
5:01:43luck I first learned about Helen when
5:01:46one of my favorite authors Joe Vitali
5:01:48blogged about her and her book name it
5:01:50and claim it and if you get my
5:01:52newsletter you had some order
5:01:54information there on how to get that
5:01:55book for
5:01:57yourself um it All Began for Helen when
5:02:00her husband who's a fisherman um Drew
5:02:03her attention to a contest sponsored by
5:02:05Coke as the prizes were outboard motors
5:02:09Helen entered and of course one do you
5:02:11want to talk a little more about that
5:02:13Howen uh yes but we'll we'll uh start at
5:02:17the beginning because I read The Power
5:02:20of Positive Thinking by norin Vincent
5:02:23Peele and the thing that intrigued me
5:02:26was he said you can have anything you
5:02:29want provided you know what it is and
5:02:32then you can see yourself as having it
5:02:36and I thought that was
5:02:38profound and after um that night I was
5:02:41so you know all excited and that's when
5:02:45uh my husband was reading the paper and
5:02:48I told him I said you know we can have
5:02:50anything we want provided we know what
5:02:52it is and he said well I need I'd like
5:02:55to have this outboard motor and I that's
5:02:58pretty
5:03:00specific yes and see at H when when I
5:03:02was contesting contesting means you have
5:03:05to complete 25 words or less or 50 words
5:03:09or less and here's where a creative
5:03:11imagination comes in I sat in the chair
5:03:15I pretended I was my husband because he
5:03:19liked to Fish by himself and I wrote 25
5:03:23words uh uh in fact these other words
5:03:27I'm a lone wolf fisherman Cokes are my
5:03:31silent Partners they contribute no
5:03:35yakity Yak when cooled upon when called
5:03:38upon and those was 25 words and I send
5:03:41it in and I didn't know any better and I
5:03:44just had this confidence that they're
5:03:46just going to let me win week later and
5:03:49naturally they called any one and from
5:03:52that day on I kept thinking okay what
5:03:55else do I
5:03:57want and it started I mean it was just
5:04:00um well you would say
5:04:03it was miraculous but later on when I
5:04:06was really serious of what's what's
5:04:09going on here that's when I realized
5:04:13that you are projecting energy and when
5:04:16you project anything with
5:04:19motion then it is H Amplified and it
5:04:23happens faster than if you just mental
5:04:26Muse with it so then I had so many
5:04:31requests and letter letters and uh uh
5:04:34different comments from people because
5:04:36now locally I probably was considered
5:04:39the contest Queen you know before you
5:04:41came in the
5:04:43picture so well I do consider you a
5:04:46contest Queen that's for sure but anyway
5:04:49what I did uh Carolyn I I said anytime
5:04:53anybody called I said well if you want
5:04:55to be a winner you better use my motto
5:04:59which is Spec s p c
5:05:03and they said well what's that and I
5:05:05said it's
5:05:07selected
5:05:09projected
5:05:10collected I mean expect it collect
5:05:14collect it and if there's a secret that
5:05:16people are seeking as a winner you now
5:05:19have the answer so select IT project it
5:05:24expect it and then you collect it and
5:05:28that's the way it works and what what
5:05:31I'm uh what I'm really really stressing
5:05:34is uh when you do have uh you choose a
5:05:38prize any prize uh a lot of people just
5:05:41choose to win I never did I wanted a
5:05:45specific prize and I would focus on that
5:05:49and I would look at other things that
5:05:50were available I wouldn't enter because
5:05:54that was not on their list so I became
5:05:57very very specific and would concentrate
5:06:01energy I'm just one thing and that's
5:06:05what I won every time I would win it
5:06:07would be first prize things that I
5:06:10wanted
5:06:11it so that's another I think Gem of
5:06:14wisdom and of course you know during my
5:06:17period I was accused of be using
5:06:21Witchcraft and I kept hearing it and my
5:06:24son would be embarrassed at school and
5:06:26that's when I coined the word wish wi i
5:06:30h wishcraft
5:06:33yeah and I like that a lot actually yeah
5:06:36and then later on I knew noticed that
5:06:39some people were using it in their book
5:06:41but that's okay because it works and so
5:06:45actually that that's what we have
5:06:47witchcraft okay so one of the questions
5:06:50I had sent you in advance of the
5:06:51interview
5:06:52was a lot of people especially now with
5:06:55the Advent of the internet because the
5:06:58postage is no longer an issue you can
5:07:01enter
5:07:03hundreds of promotions yes
5:07:06so and that's what I've been doing and I
5:07:09win quite a
5:07:10bit but there's the the prizes I and I
5:07:14and I'm going to use your words in the
5:07:15process of winning such as my new
5:07:18car that have not arrived yet so would I
5:07:23be better off not entering
5:07:25anything and just focusing on say car
5:07:29promotions well if this is what you want
5:07:31to do and and um you know you said you
5:07:33entered so many of them how many hours a
5:07:36day do you spend uh this is important I
5:07:40mean what is uh the purpose here I mean
5:07:43it's a hobby but it can be all consuming
5:07:46and it can just
5:07:48almost take over well I never did that
5:07:52Carolyn yeah know I I only spend about
5:07:54an hour maybe two a day at most if that
5:07:58and there's days that I have 10 minutes
5:08:01so okay it it doesn't it's the amazing
5:08:04thing about the computers is that you
5:08:06can enter a lot in a short amount of
5:08:09time uhhuh which is
5:08:13either um a really good thing or maybe
5:08:15listening to you a really bad thing well
5:08:19cut out okay let me let me uh just
5:08:22project this and you think about it when
5:08:24you're entering so many you are uh
5:08:28dissipating your energies your ener how
5:08:31many what are you concentrating on
5:08:34you're working with energy Carolyn and
5:08:37that's that's the reason I say when
5:08:39you're focusing on one thing and then
5:08:42you you have pro pro selected that you
5:08:46have projected that energy to that one
5:08:49thing and then that's when you win it
5:08:51and then you can go to something else
5:08:54okay what about what happens with a lot
5:08:58of promotions
5:08:59nowadays is there's two things you I use
5:09:02software and basically I enter once and
5:09:04forget about it so it's not even in
5:09:08my it's not even on my radar so to speak
5:09:12or there's a lot of one-time entry
5:09:14promotions that are the same you enter
5:09:16once and I forget about
5:09:18it well why do you enter uh if you
5:09:21forget about it don't you want don't you
5:09:25want one specific thing you don't forget
5:09:28about it honey you you uh selected it
5:09:32and you've projected it and now you've
5:09:35got to expected to collect it oh I'm
5:09:37going to have to rewrite a new new
5:09:40book and change the whole entering
5:09:43system that's in my book well all right
5:09:45now just a minute I'm not belittling you
5:09:48because if you've been a constant winner
5:09:51but how many things do you really want
5:09:54that you've uh that you have won or they
5:09:57have uh given you how many things do you
5:09:59really want well a lot of the stuff I
5:10:02like um I like the surprise of not
5:10:05knowing what's coming I really like that
5:10:07whole Christmas morning kind of feeling
5:10:09okay I I really like you say winning
5:10:13tickets to things I may not normally go
5:10:16to like we won four tickets to go see a
5:10:19Toronto rocks game now Toronto rocks the
5:10:22Toronto rocks team is our lacrosse team
5:10:25well I've never seen lacrosse played
5:10:28ever so we went you know to my husb
5:10:32husband myself and another couple and we
5:10:33had such a fun evening out together and
5:10:36I would never have gone on my own and I
5:10:39like that because it was something that
5:10:40I never would have tried had I not won
5:10:43the tickets so I do like
5:10:46that
5:10:47but I hate that word butt I heard that
5:10:50but
5:10:52the I would really like to have more
5:10:55frequent trips like the bigger stuff so
5:10:58I see what you're saying about
5:10:59collecting my energies away from the
5:11:01small smaller things and combining them
5:11:03to win the bigger things yes and is that
5:11:06what you mean uh yes uhhuh because um
5:11:10you've read the book and then uh you
5:11:12know my H we would sit there as a family
5:11:15unit and I'd say what uh what where
5:11:18where do we want to go this year for our
5:11:20vacation and my son said I want to go to
5:11:22a dude ranch and so that time I just
5:11:26projected uh prizes for a dude ranch so
5:11:29we went a dude ranch and okay now here's
5:11:32a question you said as a family would
5:11:34all of you cuz I think there five of you
5:11:37right uh yes there was would all of you
5:11:40project hey we're going to a dude ranch
5:11:42so now it's quintupled the energy yes I
5:11:46would project the energy my husband was
5:11:48very very very supportive and uh the
5:11:51children I said don't tell anybody and
5:11:54you know I coined the phrase also first
5:11:57of all you beg it then you brag it and
5:12:00so I would uh they would never mention
5:12:03you know what's your mother going to win
5:12:05next and they would just not say
5:12:07anything but as a family unit they knew
5:12:10that we were going to have to win this
5:12:12trip to this D
5:12:14Dr okay so you combine your energies to
5:12:18make it even stronger uhuh yes yes yes
5:12:22and the children never uh never
5:12:24discussed anything with anybody uh
5:12:27because I said it was see what happens
5:12:30Carolyn uh you become a winner then
5:12:33there's envy and you you do not know
5:12:37this is very very subtle and I don't
5:12:39mean to be negative but this person that
5:12:43has Envy uh decides what makes her think
5:12:46she's going to win it and you are very
5:12:49very tuned in and thought transference
5:12:53goes on constantly and you can pick up
5:12:56her thought because she's sending energy
5:12:59and then all of a sudden you think it's
5:13:00your thought and then now you're
5:13:03doubting and and and and you pick these
5:13:06things up I mean the ordinary person I'm
5:13:08aware of it now but 99 and 44% of the
5:13:12people are not aware how much you pick
5:13:16up during the day that does not you did
5:13:19not inst in were not instrumental in uh
5:13:23in that thought you're getting thoughts
5:13:26from other people
5:13:28constantly and if they're negative uh
5:13:31you just say I don't need that uh I'm
5:13:34sure you're familiar with some people
5:13:36that uh have pH physical challenges and
5:13:39you walk in the room and you take on
5:13:42symptoms this is being very very very
5:13:46sensitive and you get that way or either
5:13:49I am are we still with you yeah okay so
5:13:53you
5:13:54can it's the whole wo is me uhuh um
5:13:59syndrome where you go visit a sick
5:14:01friend the next thing you know your
5:14:02tummy aches or your shoulder hurts or
5:14:05that's right ankle feels tender uhhuh
5:14:08and not only that Carolyn uh they can
5:14:11think of you and you can pick up their
5:14:14thoughts uh early on and uh we're
5:14:17becoming more and more sensitive in our
5:14:19evolutionary process uh that's going on
5:14:23and you know time is just uh it's like a
5:14:26jump start well more and more people
5:14:29have this ability and they don't
5:14:31recognize it and some of them are pity
5:14:34party all the time and so when I do my
5:14:37counseling here and uh people come in
5:14:40and tell me what their challenges are or
5:14:43whatever and I'll say have you thought
5:14:45of this who are people that you don't
5:14:48care for let's go ahead and nullify that
5:14:52and let's make yourself
5:14:54comfortable uh so these are things uh
5:14:57well I did that research actually after
5:15:00I went every everything I possibly
5:15:02wanted you know I won the big house I
5:15:05won several cars trips any place I
5:15:08wanted to go and after that I mean who
5:15:11needs more and that's when I decided uh
5:15:15I'm going to research this energy okay
5:15:20when I when I start researching the
5:15:22energy the first thing I did was I went
5:15:25to New York I mean I went to England and
5:15:28sat in sat in Seance rooms for 3 weeks
5:15:33and was able to determine when something
5:15:36when a thought thought form or an
5:15:40aberation uh for I can see other
5:15:43dimensions incidentally and I don't have
5:15:45a brain tumor or I'm not crazy because a
5:15:48lot of people have this ability now they
5:15:51have this ability because I'm I see
5:15:54people all the time that are first many
5:15:56people have the ability they just don't
5:15:58admit it yes uhhuh it can scare the yell
5:16:01out of you the first time you experience
5:16:03it and uh now and and I have references
5:16:07of people that have this I mean what's
5:16:11going on here and then I can determine
5:16:13if it's their thought form or if it's an
5:16:17abortion or somebody that came and uh is
5:16:21standing around them and sort of well
5:16:23you want call it a guardian a uh you
5:16:26know the guardian or the counselor or
5:16:29whatever you want to call whatever term
5:16:31you want want to call it an angel
5:16:33incidentally doesn't have those big
5:16:35floppy Wings an angel can be a person
5:16:38from your past and uh when I deal on a
5:16:42onetoone basis with people counseling it
5:16:45becomes very very clear if someone comes
5:16:48in and stands beside him and I I just
5:16:53don't know a thing about this person and
5:16:55I will just listen it's like a
5:16:57telepathic communication that this other
5:17:01entity is telling me to tell them so it
5:17:05gets to be quite exciting and how do you
5:17:08come about doing this everything that is
5:17:12important to us is we first must have a
5:17:17desire and when we have this desire and
5:17:20then when we project and then things
5:17:23start
5:17:24happening and I know I digressed and it
5:17:28does is applicable to winning contests
5:17:32I'm certain of it because even if I sit
5:17:34here today and I decide I want to go
5:17:39some place which we did a number of
5:17:41years ago I just sit here and I say I'd
5:17:44like to go to New York and I'd like to
5:17:46um see this little new play they have
5:17:49the best whouse in Texas and my
5:17:51husband's sitting here and uh we haven't
5:17:54entered any contest haven't done a thing
5:17:57and all of a sudden the phone rings and
5:18:00it's Rich Little and he said uh Mrs
5:18:03hadel he said I read your book a number
5:18:05of years ago and I want you on my talk
5:18:08show uh can you come to New York we will
5:18:12pay all your
5:18:15expenses you'll be on my you're getting
5:18:17so good you don't even have to fill out
5:18:19the entry form that is right that is
5:18:22right that's what I'm trying to say and
5:18:25then he said and is there anything you
5:18:26want and I said yeah I'd like tickets to
5:18:29the best little hor house in Texas okay
5:18:31Mrs hle and what else do you
5:18:35want that's a great story yes and so
5:18:39what you see is you're working with
5:18:43energy and that's the main thing and if
5:18:46I can really really stress to all the
5:18:50listeners out there uh make make your
5:18:54motto spec select projected expected and
5:19:00then collected if you've not learned one
5:19:02thing in this hour that should get you
5:19:06on a path of being a winner okay well
5:19:10that's okay I'm I'm getting it here
5:19:13because I read your book and I found it
5:19:16completely fascinating because it was
5:19:18written long before the movie and the
5:19:20book The Secret came out and became very
5:19:22popular and and all these people that
5:19:25worked in the realm of positive thinking
5:19:27I mean Norman Vincent Peele he he wrote
5:19:29his book in the 50s he was you know you
5:19:31know way ahead of the curve yes and but
5:19:34I found it fascinating that several of
5:19:36the things you said in your book were um
5:19:39so familiar like thoughts become things
5:19:42yeah and defin and and paste pictures up
5:19:46I'm thinking wow she's doing vision
5:19:47boards before vision boards were you
5:19:49know the end thing to do oh yes yes yes
5:19:53visualization is is quite important and
5:19:57that's just that's giving you the energy
5:19:59again and I do do stress that if there's
5:20:03an emotion there you know when we have
5:20:06say what our emotionsemotions are love
5:20:09hate fear anger pain these are all very
5:20:13very intense emotions and when you have
5:20:16pain a physical challenge the pain uh
5:20:20you can dwell on the pain and it can
5:20:23become very intense pain uh pain and
5:20:26energy comes in
5:20:28pulsations and uh usually when some
5:20:31someone has this uh pain in something I
5:20:35say okay all right you can either give
5:20:38it pain or you can change it to energy
5:20:43and when it comes to energy then
5:20:45pulsations start and there is no
5:20:48discomfort there there're pulsations for
5:20:51healing so it it uh really and truly uh
5:20:56another as I said another answer is
5:20:58being able to control mind over matter
5:21:03and that includes pain that includes
5:21:06anger or hate or whatever else energy
5:21:09you have that's exaggerated or
5:21:13Amplified uh I am in my book I'm very
5:21:17very uh comfortable with uh author Frank
5:21:21Outlaw and what he said and this is very
5:21:24important I think and it says watch your
5:21:28thoughts they become words
5:21:31watch your words they become actions
5:21:36watch your actions they become habits
5:21:41watch your habits they become character
5:21:44and then watch your character for it
5:21:47becomes your
5:21:49destiny and when you meditate on that it
5:21:52makes so much
5:21:55sense and I have that in my book yeah I
5:21:59really like that quote uhhuh it is and
5:22:02then I also have to have this little
5:22:04sense of humor you know and I say
5:22:07somebody says well what do I need to
5:22:09succeed in life and I usually answer
5:22:12only three things to succeed in life and
5:22:16that's a wishbone a backbone and a funny
5:22:20bone and I said oh I don't remember
5:22:23reading that in your book well now if
5:22:26you get to know Carolyn personally I'm
5:22:29sure she will you'll agree with me your
5:22:32book was titled would clue you in you
5:22:35can't win if you don't enter yeah no I
5:22:38like that A Wish Bone a wish a wishbone
5:22:42back bone and a funny bone a funny bone
5:22:45that is brilliant well you did it you
5:22:48you started with a wish Carolyn you used
5:22:52your backbone because it took some doing
5:22:55to get started on holy moly does it take
5:22:57some
5:22:59doing and by working toward your goal
5:23:02okay you now can enjoy and are using
5:23:05your funny bone you should be so that oh
5:23:08it is fun yes it is that's for sure
5:23:11because if it isn't then you're going to
5:23:13uh just go ahead and say it's not worth
5:23:15it okay and uh when I you know I do
5:23:18blueprints for people all over the world
5:23:21and I love love telling people about
5:23:25themselves everybody should become aware
5:23:27of self and so when I do these blue
5:23:31blueprints at the end I always have this
5:23:34and uh this is something you need to
5:23:36talk think about I said make every day
5:23:39special share a joke hum a song pass
5:23:44some special Joy along and if someone
5:23:47should come your way who doesn't share
5:23:51your joy today the hell with
5:23:55[Laughter]
5:23:57them that's my sense of humor okay I
5:24:00have um taken up enough of your time in
5:24:03any questions oh well we had some people
5:24:06write some questions
5:24:09um one person I have how it works here
5:24:13on the Blog Talk Radio is that most
5:24:14people don't call in and talk they are
5:24:18in a chat room and they type out their
5:24:20questions so I have to read them um to
5:24:23you now one woman wanted to know if you
5:24:26were still entering sweet Stakes but I
5:24:27think you kind of answered that by
5:24:29saying you were sitting there when Rich
5:24:32Little s when you decided you wanted to
5:24:34go to New York yeah uh uh my needs now
5:24:38see I'm 84 years old and uh right now I
5:24:42just finished my first um uh fiction
5:24:45book a man called Friday I am so I am so
5:24:49excited like a little kid and as I
5:24:52finished it something tells me that it
5:24:55has to be either a screenplay uh for
5:24:59Hallmark or for Lifetime and uh right
5:25:04now I I need to have it published which
5:25:06I self-publish because I don't want to
5:25:08mess with sending it in and waiting for
5:25:11people to uh evaluate it uh book uh uh
5:25:15being able to sell a book nowadays is
5:25:17almost impossible because everybody and
5:25:20that's not negative it's being a
5:25:23realistic uh because so many of them
5:25:25publish their own books have their own
5:25:28uh uh methods of doing it because
5:25:31self-publishing is something that's uh
5:25:34not a forthcoming it's already here and
5:25:37so I'm going to publish it myself
5:25:39doesn't cost that much and then I'm
5:25:42going to mail it out uh to three or four
5:25:46people that I'm inclined to mail out and
5:25:49then I'm going to telepathically
5:25:51communicate to that person that they
5:25:54should consider it I don't play I mean I
5:25:57don't um use witchcraft I use use
5:26:01wishcraft and if they are tuned in and
5:26:04they're reading the book they'll pick up
5:26:06my message and when you pick up a
5:26:08message you can accept it or reject it
5:26:11so I'm not pushing Minds around and I
5:26:15know you can push Minds around but I
5:26:17don't I I choose not to do that uh in my
5:26:22research uh there are people that are
5:26:25very very good senders and there are
5:26:28very good receivers I'm an ex I'm an
5:26:32excellent sender my younger son is a
5:26:35good receiver and early in my
5:26:39research I would project to him and he
5:26:43would say he was he was at college and I
5:26:45would project to him and he would call
5:26:48the phone and pick up verbatim What I
5:26:51was projecting and this continued and it
5:26:55still continues today so there are
5:26:58people that can just simply
5:27:01pick up thoughts and that's why I say
5:27:03you now learn to discern do I want to um
5:27:08give him $1,000 or don't I you know it
5:27:12depends what you're
5:27:14projecting uh one time I was in the
5:27:17kitchen doing uh fixing the lunch and he
5:27:20came in the door and I wanted to get out
5:27:23and get some yellow roses because I was
5:27:26having guests for dinner that night I
5:27:28didn't tell them about yellow roses
5:27:31he was preoccupied he had to go to go to
5:27:34Sears to pick up a tire for his car but
5:27:38before he was he said I got to get this
5:27:40tire and then I got to get back and get
5:27:42to work all I did I'm I'm there working
5:27:46I'm making praying for supper that night
5:27:49I mean for my guests that night and I
5:27:52look at them now none were not a word
5:27:54was spoken and I just think of my yellow
5:27:58roses and would you believe at in at
5:28:01that time in Irving where I lived uh
5:28:04Tyler Texas has lots and lots of roses
5:28:07and so the children the the kids that
5:28:11went to college would come into Irving
5:28:13and sit at street corners and and sell
5:28:17roses for a dollar a dozen they
5:28:20supplement their income and they had
5:28:23pink roses yellow roses white roses red
5:28:26roses do you know coming back from home
5:28:30from Sears he stopped he'd never done
5:28:33this before but he stopped and got a
5:28:36dozen roses now he y ones yeah he walks
5:28:40in the door no kidding and he got this
5:28:43news newspaper behind him and I look at
5:28:46him and I said my my yellow roses and he
5:28:49threw them on the counter he said whose
5:28:51thought was that yours or mine and I
5:28:54said it was my thought but you accepted
5:28:57it so
5:28:59you yes you can play you can play games
5:29:02with your husband with this at night we
5:29:06we yeah and I sit there and dream oh
5:29:09yeah oh a Tiffany necklace a Tiffany
5:29:13necklace yes yes
5:29:15yes yeah oh dear but then he has to
5:29:19accept it or reject it yes they can
5:29:22accept or reject yes so you're not
5:29:25you're not be using witchcraft you're
5:29:27using witchcraft wishcraft what you're
5:29:30doing my husband used to say I know what
5:29:33you're doing but it's okay and then he'd
5:29:35get up and make my coffee or whatever so
5:29:38this WOW uh this is um uh this is a
5:29:43point uh that I became aware of after I
5:29:46won every contest I everything I needed
5:29:50I won now how far can you go uh after a
5:29:54while it's it's it's um becomes jaded
5:29:58it's no longer a challenge
5:30:01and then my next challenge was hey I
5:30:03want to learn more about myself and
5:30:06that's when I start reading intently
5:30:10about um astrology
5:30:13numerology uh Chinese every aspect that
5:30:17told me about myself and that's when I
5:30:20compiled uh this uh formula to write
5:30:24blueprints for people and when I was in
5:30:27Peru uh very very interesting I was
5:30:30there two and a half months and uh doing
5:30:33research and doing research in England
5:30:36and any place I went that I felt I could
5:30:41learn and uh I would sit there at night
5:30:44and I compile this entire blueprint for
5:30:47people and I said well if they're really
5:30:50really interested and then your name has
5:30:53a vibration the day you were born has a
5:30:56vibration so everything about you is
5:31:00like so what else is new for instance
5:31:03you were born in January is this correct
5:31:06that's right and you were born on the
5:31:089th yes and you were born in
5:31:121967 that correct okay that makes you a
5:31:16cosmic parent you're a cosmic parent and
5:31:21this means you're very benevolent and
5:31:24you are interested in the helps and the
5:31:28needs of other people so so you're
5:31:30following your destiny which is exactly
5:31:34what you're doing because see January is
5:31:36a one so you're a leader an absolute
5:31:39leader the nine is the
5:31:43humanitarian part of you and that's very
5:31:46very very when I see a seven or a nine
5:31:49in a chart I just get excited because I
5:31:52know that they're
5:31:53benevolent and then the
5:31:561967 is a five and what a five is is
5:32:00lots and lots of travel for you after 57
5:32:05and you're going to be writing uh
5:32:07teaching and for the rest of your life
5:32:09the best of your life from 57 on it's
5:32:14just going to be all like you can I'll
5:32:17loan you my phrase life is either a
5:32:20daring Adventure or nothing and then
5:32:23you're going to make it daring
5:32:25kid wow that's amazing and it's funny
5:32:28because when you said that I I and to
5:32:30help people I've always known that yes
5:32:33yes I've always known that I wanted to
5:32:35help people now I thought it was going
5:32:36to be in another
5:32:38form and it didn't pan out and this is
5:32:41where how it finally ended up
5:32:43manifesting um helping people have have
5:32:46more fun in their lives but yeah I've
5:32:49always known that now I I did have a
5:32:52couple of people ask some questions you
5:32:54know how you talk about the ability
5:32:57to uh read people and send messages and
5:33:01and all that did you have that right
5:33:04from when you were young and you didn't
5:33:06you weren't able to figure out what it
5:33:07was or did you develop it over
5:33:11time um no as a child of five I was in
5:33:16the uh I was in the bed I mean I was in
5:33:19the room when my grandfather died and uh
5:33:22my grandmother T you know very Catholic
5:33:25strong Catholic background and she kept
5:33:28saying uh the angel was going to come
5:33:30and take my granddad well an angel she
5:33:34had this huge picture on the wall with
5:33:36an bee beautiful angel big winds and now
5:33:40as a 5-year-old I decided I had to be in
5:33:43that room because I wanted to see the
5:33:46angel that was going to take him
5:33:49well he had asthma and he was gasping
5:33:53for breath and I'm sitting there and all
5:33:55of a sudden he sits up and a and a whole
5:34:00group of people come behind him and he
5:34:03stands up and he smiles and they Embrace
5:34:06and then they go through the wall all
5:34:09right now this was something I saw it
5:34:12was like having two grandpas there one
5:34:14was on the bed and the other went
5:34:16through the wall and uh then of course
5:34:20he died and I'm so disappointed because
5:34:23I go out there after he died everybody
5:34:26left the the room and I looked at my
5:34:29mother and I said said you know
5:34:31something the angel didn't take Grandpa
5:34:34uh he went with a lot of
5:34:36people so I was already at the age of
5:34:39five being able to see in that other
5:34:42dimension okay you didn't quite know
5:34:45what it was you just knew that he had
5:34:47left that's that's right that's right
5:34:50and uh as a Catholic uh with sometime
5:34:53the funerals were held in the church we
5:34:56had to go to mass every Sunday I mean
5:34:58every day before we went to uh to the to
5:35:01the classroom and if there was a funeral
5:35:04it would always confuse me because the
5:35:06casket was up there and there would be a
5:35:09man standing there and or a woman if it
5:35:13was uh if it was the body of a woman and
5:35:16just looking around and nobody else
5:35:19could see her I would say look at that
5:35:21lady standing there by the the casket
5:35:24even you know as I was going nobody
5:35:26would see her and what it was and later
5:35:29on this can be humorous or it can be a
5:35:32sick joke but I then made the
5:35:35determination they would come to their
5:35:37own funeral to see how popular they were
5:35:40or how many people were there this this
5:35:44you know really in truly because later
5:35:47on when I got to know the people that
5:35:50were in the casket uh oh when you like
5:35:54when you were older yeah when I was
5:35:56older yes yes uhhuh and then I could
5:35:58communicate with the people and they
5:36:01would say I'm waiting I'm waiting for so
5:36:04and so or whatever and then sometime
5:36:06they would
5:36:07leave uh that there would be Earthbound
5:36:10maybe for a little while and then they'd
5:36:12be gone because the wife would say uh it
5:36:16seemed like he was in the bedroom at
5:36:17night well he was he was and lingering
5:36:21why I don't know and then they would go
5:36:24off into a whatever whatever concept
5:36:27they had Heaven hell purgatory
5:36:30or in uh Indians go to their Happy
5:36:32Hunting round but that's just in that
5:36:35next Dimension uh as we are in an
5:36:39evolutionary process we continue to
5:36:42evolve into different levels of
5:36:45consciousness and this physical body is
5:36:48just a vehicle for planet Earth which is
5:36:51a a learning a learning experience is
5:36:54what the planet is here so that's why
5:36:57you choose to come down here you choose
5:36:59your
5:37:00parents uh I have found all this out
5:37:03when I am dealing with
5:37:05children
5:37:07and uh so
5:37:09self-awareness uh right now today I
5:37:12think the most important thing and you
5:37:15can have your contests and you can win
5:37:18your prizes why not you deserve the best
5:37:21they're all fun too yes oh definitely
5:37:24definitely but later on when you get
5:37:26real serious uh and then you want to
5:37:29have more answers uh what makes me tick
5:37:32click get sick why am I mad sad glad or
5:37:35bad you ask yourself these questions and
5:37:38then all of a sudden books appear people
5:37:42appear and then that's when I got very
5:37:45very
5:37:46serious working with this energy and
5:37:49when I do my blueprints this is very
5:37:52interesting because I I work with your
5:37:55numbers that's all and I'm on my
5:37:57computer and I talking about you and I
5:38:00do the cards for you every aspect of you
5:38:04and then I I ask before I mail the
5:38:07blueprint out I sit and say is there
5:38:10anything else this person needs to know
5:38:13and if somebody appears somebody appears
5:38:17it's not somebody I recognize so I then
5:38:20know it belongs to you belongs to this
5:38:24person that I'm working with and then I
5:38:26sit there and it's like they dictate
5:38:29tell them this tell them that tell them
5:38:31this and I may write a whole page on
5:38:34what you're to look at or what you're to
5:38:37think about and then I feel good and
5:38:40then I send it out and I God I send last
5:38:44week I sent went to a doctor in Hong
5:38:47Kong wow yeah all over the world I mean
5:38:52it's just been amazing and I do know
5:38:54advertising it's a word of mouth thing
5:38:57and uh usually when they get my book
5:38:59order my book I put in a slip and I I I
5:39:03talk about I mean you know here's a this
5:39:06is available my other books are
5:39:07available or here's my blueprint
5:39:10available so that's what I like to do
5:39:13now love it it's like the person is
5:39:16right here with me and we're having a
5:39:19conversation oh how fun yes yes yes and
5:39:23then also you indicated that you would
5:39:26like to spend some time with me well we
5:39:28can make that a available uh after it's
5:39:31convenient in the fall and uh by then I
5:39:34should have my um my um uh my other
5:39:40house available over here that I used as
5:39:43a dormatory I have sort of Clos that up
5:39:47but I anytime I meet somebody that's
5:39:49very very sincere and interested I
5:39:53consider them to come in and share my
5:39:56Concepts uh to be accepted or rejected
5:39:59because I'm not a fanatic on anything
5:40:02and I can watch you and I can see from
5:40:05body language if you're accepting it or
5:40:08if you're ready for it and I can tell
5:40:11you things that uh uh I don't know I I I
5:40:15sent you an email earlier uh when I was
5:40:17talking about Dr Joseph Murphy powers of
5:40:21the subconscious mind very good friend
5:40:24of mine and he's written a book because
5:40:27former Catholic priest
5:40:29decided to leave the order and uh
5:40:32decided to make p tapes personalized
5:40:36tapes for people because he knew it was
5:40:39so so important to program yourself to
5:40:44program yourself and then it would help
5:40:47you in all areas whether it was for
5:40:49healing
5:40:51self-confidence uh a project you were
5:40:54going and he did this with tapes but his
5:40:58story
5:40:59how he accomplished this fabulous house
5:41:02and everything he never mentioned it in
5:41:05any of his books because he said they
5:41:08would say I was a witch and he said but
5:41:10I can talk to you and um he was my guest
5:41:14several times so many times I can uh
5:41:18talk to people that uh are on my
5:41:21wavelength if you want to call it
5:41:23that uh we have so much in common and we
5:41:27learn from each other
5:41:29and uh he was very very open Vince
5:41:32Norman Vincent Peele insisted he'd come
5:41:35to meet me wow and Dr Peele also wrote
5:41:40about me uh in several of his books and
5:41:43in his magazines he said she has the
5:41:46ability and uh to um select it protect
5:41:51expect it he didn't use those words but
5:41:54he said she does um uh she knows what
5:41:57she wants and she stays with with it and
5:42:00that's what why Murphy did the tapes you
5:42:03know how to be healthy or how to be
5:42:06wealthy or how to be whatever you wanted
5:42:09to do and he had a selection of tapes
5:42:12and taping is very very very very
5:42:16important and can be very
5:42:18successful especially in healing if you
5:42:21have a physical challenge and uh it is a
5:42:25discomfort and it's a nagging thing and
5:42:28you dwell on it well you dwell on it to
5:42:30such a point that it's dormant you don't
5:42:33let it heal unless you're constantly
5:42:36saying heal heal heal and then things
5:42:41start happening yes go to your medical
5:42:43doctor get his opinion and whatever it
5:42:46is that he recommends and then make it
5:42:49work for you so your thoughts are very
5:42:54very very
5:42:55important in all areas of life con yeah
5:42:59so whatever you want whether it's health
5:43:01or wealth or love or prizes uhhuh yes it
5:43:05has to come from first of all mind
5:43:08thoughts mind over
5:43:11matter and uh and that's the reason that
5:43:13I wrote my second book you know well I
5:43:16wrote U uh in I I wrote other Realms
5:43:20which was so far out that I only I think
5:43:24I only uh had 2,000 copies and after
5:43:28they sold I thought this is too far out
5:43:30for these people they're it can scare
5:43:33the yell out of them first of all or
5:43:35they're not interested because I mean
5:43:38they're not ready to really and truly
5:43:41get into the spiritual aspect of
5:43:44themselves and so when I do get orders
5:43:47for blueprints I'm always looking for
5:43:49sevens and
5:43:52nines sixes are very good too so you
5:43:55have a nine oh I'm doing well then
5:43:58because I have the the one and then nine
5:44:00and then another nine and then six and
5:44:03seven you're you're right on Target in
5:44:05other words you are fing your mission
5:44:08and your little friend Joe if I tell you
5:44:11know he has this the nine too and he has
5:44:15the three as being a writer you have the
5:44:18five and he has the five so he's
5:44:21the yes you your kids have a lot a lot
5:44:24in
5:44:25common well I do love his books I have
5:44:28to say that
5:44:29um I I really started to get into this
5:44:32focused energy when I was reading his
5:44:34book and I got halfway through the 10 I
5:44:38was halfway through the book and he
5:44:39talked about rewriting out your goals
5:44:40and I guess I did Focus my energy
5:44:42because I rewrote them out and I was
5:44:44feeling very lucky and that day I went
5:44:47to the uh stopped off and bought a
5:44:49lottery ticket I found my husband he was
5:44:50visiting his parents and I said okay go
5:44:52buy two quick picks in an encore because
5:44:54I figured it's the universe is sending
5:44:56me money I didn't have to worry about
5:44:57the
5:44:57numbers and I hit um and I did the same
5:45:00and I hit five out of six
5:45:03numbers and I won $2,100 and I was
5:45:06shaking when cuz I was at the lottery
5:45:08Kos and I handed the woman the ticket I
5:45:10was so busy I had my daughter in one
5:45:12hand and groceries in the other and I
5:45:13handed her the ticket I said can you
5:45:14check this and then maen you know does
5:45:16this little music and she says oh I
5:45:18can't give you this it's too much and
5:45:20I'm thinking too much how much is too
5:45:23much so yeah I really I I have really
5:45:28liked Jo those
5:45:30techniques yes since I hadn't even
5:45:32finished the book I thought wow imagine
5:45:34if if this is what halfway through does
5:45:36what's the next you know the rest of the
5:45:38book going to be like so and I've read
5:45:41his newest one I just I really like his
5:45:43stuff I'm going to not that I'm not re
5:45:46um I'm going to also I'm recommending
5:45:48Helen's books to everyone but also if
5:45:50you haven't read any of Joe vital stuff
5:45:52definitely we're friends uh he called I
5:45:55did his blueprint he sent me all his
5:45:58books oh aren't they wonderful I love
5:46:00them yes yes and he put me on his uh
5:46:04blog and uh he had
5:46:0692
5:46:08responses on holy yes yes yes
5:46:1392 wow well see he is he's benevolent uh
5:46:19he's he's the nine which is the uh
5:46:22humanitarian he has he was born in
5:46:25December the 29th which is in 11 Master
5:46:29number but he has the three in December
5:46:32which he has this he has this ability to
5:46:35write to express and to teach so he's
5:46:39following uh all the numbers here see
5:46:42yeah he wrote the original hypnotic
5:46:44marketing book yes so he knows I mean
5:46:48he's tuned in and uh and you have the
5:46:51nine he has the nine that's very very
5:46:54very
5:46:55interesting so yeah anytime I know
5:46:58anybody
5:46:59uh total stranger and they'll call and
5:47:01they say do you mind if you tell me uh
5:47:04if I ask you your birthday and the the
5:47:07minute they tell me I go click click
5:47:09click okay this is it I don't impose my
5:47:13Concepts on them but I know who I'm
5:47:16dealing with you
5:47:18know that's pretty funny now I had
5:47:21someone um yeah ask a question hang on
5:47:25let me just okay um go um um back up
5:47:30now someone wanted to know if you've
5:47:32ever come across any mean Spirits
5:47:34because you said you've you know you had
5:47:36some good spirits with your uh
5:47:39grandfather obviously seeing him he was
5:47:42a good spirit and the people that came
5:47:44to get him they're Obviously good
5:47:45spirits but have you ever had any any um
5:47:49anything where there was mean Spirits uh
5:47:52not to my knowledge not to my
5:47:54knowledge uh if you're in a very
5:47:58depressed mood uh people in that uh in
5:48:01that vibration will hang around you and
5:48:05ab make you more depressed so it's snap
5:48:10out of it snap out of it or you have the
5:48:13ability uh to uh put a protective light
5:48:16around you and that's been on for years
5:48:19and years and uh and you don't need any
5:48:22of that you don't need any of that if
5:48:24you're seeing in another dimension and
5:48:27you see uh something that frightens you
5:48:31it may be a t thought form and it may be
5:48:34something you created but nevertheless
5:48:37you want it out you see I I'll tell you
5:48:40what a lot of the people that see in
5:48:43that other dimension they actually
5:48:45create thought
5:48:47forms they create thought forms and you
5:48:51have to learn to discern is it truly a
5:48:54thought form or is it someone coming to
5:48:58by their own valtion to instruct me and
5:49:01you listen to what's going on another
5:49:04thing I want to uh bring out is U
5:49:08because if you are having this ability
5:49:11to see in other dimensions uh be very
5:49:14careful just because people are dead
5:49:16does not mean they're
5:49:19smart I'm serious think about it real
5:49:23real often because let's say your loved
5:49:26ones uh one makes a the transition and
5:49:30they hang around you and they're they're
5:49:33you know it's not going to make them
5:49:35smarter because they died and if they
5:49:38can project to you some thoughts and
5:49:40things and you think they know more uh
5:49:43forget it uh in Seance rooms this
5:49:46happens very very often you know when
5:49:49you go there to talk to your loved
5:49:52ones hell I spend three weeks in Seance
5:49:55rooms in England and boy did I learn
5:49:58from that one uh most of those people
5:50:01that came in they were elderly and they
5:50:04were wanting uh some information about
5:50:07their loved ones that had made their
5:50:09transition and so each time the
5:50:12medium uh uh chose someone say is Rema
5:50:16here or is Betty here or whatever uh
5:50:20they uh I would check and see the person
5:50:24behind the medium and I could describe
5:50:27in detail and what was happening the
5:50:30woman that wanted to talk to her husband
5:50:32she was creating a thought form and uh
5:50:36the medium was very good at reading your
5:50:39mind and so she would accommodate you so
5:50:43until you know these things you're going
5:50:46to be led down a Garden
5:50:49Path okay CU you know who's got a good
5:50:51book on that that might help people
5:50:53learn um Sonia kosette has written
5:50:56several books and one of them that I
5:50:58finished reading this year was called
5:50:59ask your guides and she talks about that
5:51:03very thing about one woman who was
5:51:06getting messages from her mother but in
5:51:08when her mother was alive her mother
5:51:09drove her nuts and she was still doing
5:51:12it in the afterlife and she had to learn
5:51:14how to how to let that go and cut that
5:51:19off so yeah that's a very good book it's
5:51:22um I have a Sonia's link on my website
5:51:27in the rear section under tracking luck
5:51:29if anybody wants to go look it up uh she
5:51:32wrote a book called ask your guides so
5:51:34that way people can learn a little more
5:51:36uhuh yes uh yeah well listen I told you
5:51:39I was going to digress and you want to
5:51:41get back to the contesting oh I think
5:51:44this is much more
5:51:46interesting I'm I I run the show and uh
5:51:51and uh you know what I'm watching
5:51:53people's messages online they are not
5:51:56missing the contesting at all everyone
5:51:58saying please tell her we love her so
5:52:01much so um you've had so many messages
5:52:05like that I couldn't even list them all
5:52:07um to tell you how many people said
5:52:09comments like that about you so I just
5:52:11wanted to pass that on well I appreciate
5:52:15this you know all the love you can get
5:52:17just makes you makes you more
5:52:20comfortable and satisfied and tranquil I
5:52:23just love it I'm almost a reuse out here
5:52:28and and uh my my favorite of course is
5:52:31getting on the email and uh getting oh
5:52:34well the last night I had one from
5:52:37Vietnam and they just asked questions in
5:52:41uh Hungary uh Sunday I had a one from a
5:52:46girl in Hungary so it they come and as I
5:52:50said I think um after they read Joe's
5:52:53blog and they know uh my email address
5:52:58uh they just make contact and I answer
5:53:01all my emails because I'm not one of the
5:53:04movie stars that wants to get in
5:53:06seclusion and uh that's not my point if
5:53:11I can help them to help themselves uh
5:53:14that's a per that's my purpose and
5:53:17that's your purpose and you're doing a
5:53:19very very good job of sharing all of
5:53:23your
5:53:24techniques uh to Wi winner contests but
5:53:28you can go a step further and share some
5:53:30of these things about um it does not
5:53:34have to apply all to winning because it
5:53:38can apply to anything can apply to
5:53:41loving a person caring a person healing
5:53:44a person so um you're right on the right
5:53:47track kid yeah I've got a couple more
5:53:50books in me I know that I want to do one
5:53:53for the marketers and um I want to do
5:53:56one just on expanding the the attracting
5:54:00luck chapter so it would of course just
5:54:02like you
5:54:03said um expand out to to include all
5:54:07areas of your life I did have one
5:54:09question someone wants to know if
5:54:10someone's doing a movie of your
5:54:13life uh yes um there is a mo uh there is
5:54:17rather not a movie a
5:54:19documentary a do Dr
5:54:23llo uh has done a number of CDs but but
5:54:28they're in Hungary and uh I can't even
5:54:31translate I have him here and he's
5:54:33written uh all my books also in
5:54:38Hungarian well then we'll talk cuz my my
5:54:41mother-in-law is Hungarian so maybe
5:54:43we'll be able to fix you up there well
5:54:46it's just a all it is somebody read my
5:54:49book and they put it on a CD and read it
5:54:53in Hungarian oh I so the people yeah so
5:54:55the people could relate to it that's it
5:54:59oh so it's just translated yes uhhuh so
5:55:02periodically uh if I have a a real real
5:55:06thought I email him and uh he uses it
5:55:10with his students which is uh which is
5:55:13very nice he uh I don't need any
5:55:16renumeration I do it because I want to
5:55:19so anybody that has is is sincere I
5:55:23always share with you know my ideas my
5:55:27Concepts
5:55:28uh and yes um uh let's see about 5 years
5:55:31ago there was a a producer that also was
5:55:36from Hungary and she came here with her
5:55:39writer from England and wrote a
5:55:42screenplay and that screenplay she has
5:55:45um been trying to sell but there's never
5:55:48been enough Revenue uh in the Hollywood
5:55:53areas to um to make I mean to film it
5:55:57but in in the meantime she has her
5:55:59studios in Hungary so she did a
5:56:04documentary okay and I guess it's in
5:56:07Hungarian but see things like that I
5:56:09don't follow through I just say okay if
5:56:13it's going to help somebody over there
5:56:15to help themselves who cares I mean let
5:56:18her do it and I I contact her
5:56:21periodically and that's it but right now
5:56:25my goal is as I said to have this um man
5:56:30called Friday as as a screenplay or as a
5:56:34story or as a
5:56:37ongoing thing on uh either lifetime or
5:56:41Hallmark because well we'll get everyone
5:56:43to put their energy towards it so
5:56:45everybody listening we need you to put
5:56:49some a little bit of your energy think
5:56:51about all these people hundreds and
5:56:52hundreds of people focus their energy
5:56:55towards Helen and have her screen have
5:56:58her book made into a screenplay for
5:57:01Hallmark or lifetime that's what we're
5:57:02going to help her do everyone's going to
5:57:04help you there you go okay and everybody
5:57:07that everybody that is listening I'm
5:57:10going to project that they win their the
5:57:14prize they're now working seeking for I
5:57:17hope it's one prize I hope it's uh I
5:57:19mean you do one thing at a time children
5:57:23uh do one focus at a time and you're
5:57:26going to give it you're going to give it
5:57:28more energy that way you know what's
5:57:30really funny when you said that I tell
5:57:32my daughter when she wants me to do all
5:57:34this stuff I tell her all the time I can
5:57:36only do one thing at a time yet then I
5:57:39don't even follow my own advice when it
5:57:41comes to contesting or some of my other
5:57:44goals and it never occurred to me to do
5:57:46the same thing mom can only do one thing
5:57:48at a time yes yes yes Miss see a better
5:57:52and it is I mean uh one thing at a time
5:57:55then when that comes and I start another
5:57:57thing then I start another thing and you
5:58:00know when I wanted to to win this trip
5:58:03uh to be friends on my uh 40th birthday
5:58:06sinking drinking wine at a Sidewalk Cafe
5:58:10uh that little uh little anecdote is in
5:58:13my name and claim it game book well um
5:58:16the first time I send it off and that
5:58:19was my I saw myself drinking wine at a
5:58:22Sidewalk Cafe on my 40th birthday and
5:58:26the first thing I won was an organ a
5:58:28hammonded electric organ and I just got
5:58:33hysterical because I said one of the
5:58:35judges read my entry and what he thought
5:58:39was she doesn't need to go there she
5:58:41needs therapy because my entry was I'm
5:58:46curious to find out if a pooped couple
5:58:49with three kiddos can recapture the
5:58:52Rapture of Springtime ecstasy in their
5:58:56fat 40 frustrated years so thinking of
5:59:01that I mean he thought God she needs
5:59:03therapy I'll just sender this electric
5:59:06organ which was second prize I say I
5:59:10kept that same same 25 words and send it
5:59:16in and then the next time I won my trip
5:59:20to France Paris
5:59:22friends so uh it it can get funny at
5:59:26times you know judg just have a sense of
5:59:28humor they're the ones that dictate but
5:59:32I never gave up because on my 40th
5:59:35birthday I was sitting at a sidewalk
5:59:38cafe with my husband drinking wine and
5:59:42yes you can recapture the Rapture of
5:59:45Springtime ecstasy even if you're fat 40
5:59:48and frustrated well that's good to know
5:59:51I just want to remind everybody
5:59:53listening that I can't be the contest
5:59:55Queen without having a contest so I this
5:59:57week's prizes I have two more CDs to
5:59:59give away from Ron Moore who sings in
6:00:01the key of Elvis and if you want to win
6:00:04them email me at Caroline contest
6:00:07queen.com with CD in the subject line
6:00:10and put your name and address in there
6:00:12so it's easy for me to mail your prize
6:00:14if you win and um and I'll get that off
6:00:19so is there anything else you wanted to
6:00:22to talk about I mean I could talk all
6:00:24day to you but we won't that just means
6:00:26I have to have you on as a guest again
6:00:29well I think we covered the bases didn't
6:00:31we yeah I think we did so basically it
6:00:35comes down to if one wants to win a
6:00:38specific thing focus on that one
6:00:41specific thing that's right and enter
6:00:44any promotion that has that particular
6:00:46prize as a as an offering so if you want
6:00:49to say win a car don't enter you know
6:00:53things to win DVDs and gift baskets and
6:00:56that just enter the car contest
6:00:58yes I that's that's what I would
6:00:59recommend and of course the model S PF I
6:01:05mean uh
6:01:06SPC and if you remember that slogan
6:01:09select IT project it expect it collect
6:01:12it and that's the secret if there's a
6:01:15secret that is a good secret uhuh well
6:01:18now it's not a secret because you just
6:01:19told it to
6:01:20everybody no longer a secret okay but it
6:01:24is I mean it's a powerful powerful
6:01:28method well thank you very much and
6:01:31we'll talk again ourselves okay well
6:01:36whenever you feel inclined to call me
6:01:38I'm here and if I'm not I'll be here
6:01:41later on and I and really enjoyed
6:01:44sharing with your group oh thank you so
6:01:47much I'm sure that I'm going to start
6:01:48getting emails from people saying you
6:01:50know I cut out all those frivolous
6:01:52promotions and I focused on you know
6:01:54winning that trip to you know Italy or I
6:01:58really wanted a new car and I focused on
6:02:00that or I wanted you know whatever it is
6:02:02that they want and that's what they
6:02:04that's what they got well that that
6:02:07would be the secret children take my
6:02:10word for it because it worked for me and
6:02:12I'm not anybody special but that's the
6:02:15way I wanton everything I ever
6:02:18wanted okay well thank you so much again
6:02:23okay bye I'll hang up okay bye okay bye
6:02:29luck is kind of a funny thing if you
6:02:32believe it you can have it there's no
6:02:35stoping what luck can bring there's no
6:02:37rules everything is Magic if you believe
6:02:41in
6:02:43love life is easy
6:02:48enough Blog Talk
6:02:53Radio life is kind of a funny thing if
6:02:56you believe you can have it there's no
6:02:59stoping what B can't bring there's no
6:03:01rul everything is Magic if you believe
6:03:08in life is easy
6:03:13enough hello and you are tuned into with
6:03:16the contest Queen where the winning
6:03:19begins with myself Carolyn Wilman it is
6:03:22Friday October 9th and we have a very
6:03:25special guest Helen had Soul now before
6:03:29we talk to Helen let me tell you about
6:03:31what we're giving away on this episode
6:03:34divine. CA has donated a
6:03:37sweatshirt and I'll be letting everyone
6:03:39know how to win later in the show now
6:03:42let me tell you a little bit about Helen
6:03:45Helen hadsel is living proof not only of
6:03:49her own Dynamic philosophy but of the
6:03:51entire new thought
6:03:53movement her emphasis is on successful
6:03:56living through right
6:03:59thinking Dr Norman Vincent Peele wrote
6:04:01about her success in his books and
6:04:03articles and Dr Joseph Murphy who
6:04:06authored books on the power of the
6:04:08subconscious mind was a friend that
6:04:10encouraged Selen to keep writing and
6:04:12sharing her experiences in the physical
6:04:14mental and spiritual Dimensions Jose
6:04:17Silva founder of the Silva mind method
6:04:21of Mind training inspired her to
6:04:24research and to
6:04:25investigate subjects on self-awareness
6:04:28or as Helen likes to call it self eye
6:04:31awareness and Mind Over Matter
6:04:33techniques she has traveled all over the
6:04:36United States Europe and South America
6:04:38and Helen was a very popular speaker in
6:04:40the 1970s and 80s giving seminars on
6:04:44mind control positive thinking and the
6:04:46spiritual realm she has authored several
6:04:49bestselling books and among them the
6:04:51name it and claim it game which tells
6:04:53who how which tells through how positive
6:04:56action she won almost every contest she
6:05:00ever entered including winning a home in
6:05:04Irving
6:05:05Texas in 1986 he founded Delta sciences
6:05:10and you can find that at Delta
6:05:12sciences.com it's d l t a s c i n
6:05:19ces.com and for all the links make sure
6:05:22you sign up to my newsletter and all the
6:05:25links to everything we discuss on in the
6:05:27show will be
6:05:29there she had a retreat center and had
6:05:31people come from all over the world she
6:05:34had guests from England Switzerland
6:05:36Hungary and Peru as well as every state
6:05:38in the United States she even had an
6:05:41ambassador from Trinidad stay for a week
6:05:44how exciting at the age of 85 she's
6:05:48semi-retired and lives quietly in alvare
6:05:50of Texas on 5 acres in the country she
6:05:54continues to write and do does BL Prince
6:05:57daily she has many exciting antidotes
6:06:00she would like to
6:06:03share Helen thank you so much for being
6:06:06a guest on my show
6:06:08again well I'm here ready to chat ready
6:06:13to chat now one of the interesting
6:06:17things that you talk about that pertains
6:06:21to of course my audience the people that
6:06:24like to enter sweep Stakes is
6:06:27the spec method that you you coined and
6:06:32what I have found is since the last time
6:06:34you've been on to this show is that a
6:06:36lot of people love your Technique but I
6:06:39think they also falter with it because
6:06:41it doesn't always work for them so what
6:06:43I'd like to do is do a review of what
6:06:45spec is so we can teach the new
6:06:47listeners and then go over maybe some of
6:06:50the things that people do
6:06:52wrong or the mistakes or the little bits
6:06:55that trip them up so we can help them
6:06:56get those hurdles and use your
6:06:59techniques properly and so that they too
6:07:02can have what they want come into their
6:07:05lives great okay you want me to get
6:07:08started on that yeah so tell people what
6:07:10exactly is Speck okay spec is meaning
6:07:16selected projected expected
6:07:20collected and that's a small term so I
6:07:24mean it's easily uh memorable all right
6:07:27when you uh first of all when you select
6:07:30it uh you know there's goal you have to
6:07:33get a goal to get started and there's
6:07:35many ways that you can um what I call
6:07:39projected and and expected but let's get
6:07:42on with the first of all selected we all
6:07:45have we all have our wants and our needs
6:07:49and so what do you decide what is
6:07:52important now and it can be anything it
6:07:55can be material uh mental and spiritual
6:07:59whatever you're tuned in with then all
6:08:02right you have that and sometime you can
6:08:05uh put up little poster boards to remind
6:08:08yourself or you can tack up um words or
6:08:12whatever and you know um one of the
6:08:15things that I have found when I am going
6:08:18to do a um projection when I have a
6:08:23particular thing I'm working on I the
6:08:26best time to program for me uh I if I
6:08:31watch television I turn it off and don't
6:08:34listen to the commercials and this is a
6:08:37wonderful opportunity another one is
6:08:40when you're driving and just put that up
6:08:43there uh see what we're working with
6:08:45here is energy the more energy that you
6:08:50project to something the faster it comes
6:08:54to
6:08:55manifestation and this is where people
6:08:57can many times can get
6:09:00discouraged uh they they project
6:09:02something and uh they they go through
6:09:05the all the formalities and now they're
6:09:08wanting to collect it but nothing happen
6:09:12uh don't feel bad there there can be a
6:09:13delay in results this is the way I
6:09:17explain it and so you just don't have
6:09:20enough energy kids so stay with it and
6:09:24when you get discouraged and say well
6:09:26it's not going to work or their rigged
6:09:28contest their rigged or millions of
6:09:30people entered it uh that's being
6:09:32negative and what you've done when you
6:09:34say that you've nullified all your en
6:09:37all that good
6:09:39energy uh sometimes and I'm going to
6:09:42brag
6:09:43here sometimes I project something and
6:09:47it happens in a day or two and I get I
6:09:51squeal with delight because see I never
6:09:53never know how much energy I have
6:09:56projected toward that end result uh
6:10:00sometime it takes 3 months sometimes 6
6:10:02months uh but it's not that important to
6:10:06me because if I am really and truly
6:10:10excited about something I'm going to
6:10:13stay with it until something happens
6:10:16I'll give you an example that just
6:10:18happened last
6:10:19week I was at the grocery store and I
6:10:22picked up a magazine called the sun Su
6:10:26it's a National
6:10:28publication and it always his U quoting
6:10:32M notus did this the end of the world is
6:10:35coming you know all of the negative
6:10:37things to stimulate and people pick it
6:10:40up and are uh really really discon
6:10:44glumer with all of the Doom and Gloom
6:10:47that's on well I picked it
6:10:50up came home and read it and I thought
6:10:53there's so much Doom and Gloom in this I
6:10:56think I'm just going to write them a
6:10:58letter and I'm going to tell them about
6:11:01spec and I'm going to say why don't you
6:11:04up upbeat this place uh magazine give me
6:11:08a page or whatever and uh here's my book
6:11:12here's my spec technique and you can use
6:11:16it and this was uh this was on a
6:11:18Wednesday I believe it was well I send
6:11:22it out and then what I saw I kept seeing
6:11:25was a full page that they Den devoted to
6:11:29spec that's all I wanted was to uplift
6:11:33these people that read this Doom and
6:11:35Gloom well Monday morning got an email
6:11:39and said we're um we're accepting your
6:11:43article and uh send us a photograph of
6:11:46yourself for your story well I that that
6:11:50was an opportunity for me to squeal with
6:11:53delight because my God that was
6:11:57that was less than a week when I already
6:12:01had collected it now when I say
6:12:04collected because they now the story has
6:12:06been accepted now it may be a month or
6:12:09two before it's actually published
6:12:11because they have their stories um
6:12:14backlogged that's not important they did
6:12:17accept it and this is uh something that
6:12:21okay now I have an opportunity to go
6:12:24ahead and see it not as a half page I'm
6:12:28going a whole page because I have some
6:12:30good material there and I think it will
6:12:32uplift people so that my is my recent
6:12:37what I call
6:12:38projection okay so I just wanted so even
6:12:42so the minute that for you the minute
6:12:45that they say yes we're printing it you
6:12:46consider that collected yes I do yes
6:12:49okay so you selected your goal was to um
6:12:54be in this publication yes then you
6:12:57projected it so you imagined a whole
6:13:00page and you fully expected it them to
6:13:03call you just didn't know when yeah and
6:13:05you got an email four days late well I
6:13:08guess if you bought it on what a
6:13:10Wednesday uhuh and and then we Monday
6:13:13that's four business days so four
6:13:16business days later they contacted you
6:13:18so it manifested in less than a week yes
6:13:21uhuh and what I did here uh when I read
6:13:24the magazine after I I read it and wrote
6:13:27the letter you know and I write uh some
6:13:30upbeat stuff I'll say uh I'll start out
6:13:34and say dear editor how does this grab
6:13:37you and so now I have his attention and
6:13:41I'll say your doom and glue magazines
6:13:43that I pick up
6:13:45periodically uh I think you need some
6:13:47upbeat
6:13:48material and this is all I said in my um
6:13:52query letter but I send my book and I
6:13:55send
6:13:57the article that I've written on spec
6:13:59and that was it then the next
6:14:01opportunity I had was let's projected
6:14:05well I had to go to town which is 12
6:14:07miles uh away and all the while uh
6:14:12driving I listen to sofom music but I
6:14:15also see them accepting it I didn't know
6:14:20that they were going to contact me for a
6:14:22picture but I see it already in the
6:14:24magazine that's my end result
6:14:27so for for someone using the example of
6:14:31a trip to to project it You' want to to
6:14:35have them imagine themselves on the
6:14:38beach or walking through Paris or well
6:14:42actually we can use Paris as an example
6:14:44because you you use this technique to
6:14:49actually be sitting in Paris on your
6:14:5140th birthday right uhhuh yes and
6:14:54drinking wine at a s walk Cafe I so
6:14:58that's what you held in your head that
6:15:00that image I started that the first of
6:15:03the year that I wanted to be there on
6:15:05June the 1st my birthday and uh in the
6:15:09interim I had you know been entering
6:15:12contest like the contest Queen enters
6:15:14you
6:15:15know so uh I um only chose at that time
6:15:21there were lots of lots of contests and
6:15:23when you know there's a difference
6:15:25between the contest in a sweep steak
6:15:27that doesn't matter because I've won
6:15:29sweep Stakes also but the contest is
6:15:32your writing 25 words or less where in
6:15:35the world you want to go and why okay I
6:15:39wrote that uh where I want to be in
6:15:42Paris France drinking wine Etc and so um
6:15:46in the meantime about February I got a
6:15:50notice that my my uh my 25 words were
6:15:54being considered for a major price and
6:15:56when you do that you know you have to
6:15:58sign a notary and you know you're
6:16:02legitimate or then do a phone call or
6:16:05whatever and uh lo and behold I want a
6:16:07Hammond electric organ and I got real
6:16:11hysterical because you know I don't I'm
6:16:13not that musically inclined but I said
6:16:17uh they're probably telling me something
6:16:19because my um 25 words were off so
6:16:23offbeat I said they probably read read
6:16:26it and thought I needed therapy uh what
6:16:29I wrote in my 25 words was I'm curious
6:16:33to find out if a pooped couple with
6:16:37three kiddos can recapture the Rapture
6:16:42of Springtime ecstasy in their fat 40
6:16:46frustrated years that's all I wrote and
6:16:50so one of the judges that order probably
6:16:53it was from another Del Monti your
6:16:56ketchup there uh read it and thought
6:16:59this woman needs therapy and they
6:17:01decided to give me the second prize in
6:17:04that contest first prize was the trip
6:17:07but they decided to give me the ham and
6:17:08electric organ and when it came I had
6:17:12also six months of free lessons locally
6:17:16and my husband got so excited about this
6:17:20he's the one that went every Saturday to
6:17:23take organ lessons and came provisioned
6:17:27in play in the organ so I didn't need
6:17:29the therapy he did evidently but that
6:17:32well at least it didn't go to waves and
6:17:34someone had a lot of fun with the prize
6:17:35yeah that was a fun
6:17:37session I won another Oregon and this
6:17:41one I don't donated to a church that uh
6:17:45you know sometime you win a major prize
6:17:47somebody calls and says what are you
6:17:49going to do with it and this was a a
6:17:51local church that had just started and I
6:17:54said well you can have the organs so I
6:17:57donated that because I don't need two
6:17:59organs no that was very generous well
6:18:02that was a fun thing yes yes I like
6:18:05sharing prizes too I think it it feels
6:18:08good when you share what you've won with
6:18:10people that you know enjoy it oh yes
6:18:13uhuh you know the one year that I wanted
6:18:15to uh everything was an electric fry pan
6:18:19that was that was years and years ago
6:18:22and I told my husband don't buy me a fry
6:18:24pan for my Chistmas Christmas because I
6:18:27know I'm going to win these fry pans
6:18:29because I entered contests and at that
6:18:32time there were a lot of fry
6:18:35pans and
6:18:36Christmas Christmas naturally he bought
6:18:39me a fry pan CU what else could the guy
6:18:41buy me I had everything and he was going
6:18:44to surprise me and then the in the next
6:18:49month I won three fry pans that's funny
6:18:53absolutely so I gave them away you know
6:18:55as gifts
6:18:56but it's funny it's it's so exciting not
6:19:00only to look forward to things but to
6:19:02say now what do I want next you know
6:19:04what do I need and this applies not only
6:19:08to uh material things but to uh physical
6:19:12things spiritual things uh uh many times
6:19:16I want an answer for some uh particular
6:19:20question and uh I use the spec formula
6:19:23there also so I get my answer in dreams
6:19:27or in books or if somebody calls me it's
6:19:31it is
6:19:32absolutely probably the best technique
6:19:35you can use for getting things that you
6:19:38want or the things that you need well
6:19:41let's go through each step again and
6:19:44maybe review some of the things that
6:19:45people do wrong because I think one of
6:19:48the things that I found is Select
6:19:51it how specific are you when you pick
6:19:55because the famous story I have is a
6:19:57woman who emailed me and she said you
6:19:59know I asked the universe for a trip
6:20:01South and in her mind she was thinking
6:20:04the
6:20:05Caribbean she was picturing herself on a
6:20:07beach but she didn't ask for a trip to
6:20:10the beach she asked for a trip sou and
6:20:12she want a trip to Antarctica so the
6:20:15universe gave her exactly what she asked
6:20:16for you can't get any more sell in
6:20:19Antarctica so when you're asking or
6:20:22selecting in this case how specific are
6:20:27you uh well now see I wanted Paris
6:20:30France and uh I W the Hammond electric
6:20:33organ but uh when the when the prize
6:20:36came I was sitting there and actually
6:20:39the prize was in my husband's name it
6:20:42was from a men's
6:20:44contest uh and it was just at the very
6:20:47last minute but uh when he says Where in
6:20:51the world you going to go and why uh I
6:20:53put that I mean I had another contest
6:20:57that uh was masculine because uh it was
6:21:01not this the same thing because this was
6:21:04geared for a woman but he won it and in
6:21:08this contest that he won it said where
6:21:11do you want to go and they named off six
6:21:14places so actually indirectly I won the
6:21:18prize to Paris uh due to writing uh
6:21:22writing uh 25 words for another another
6:21:26uh another uh
6:21:28sponsor okay so you you just focus on
6:21:32the end result you don't focus on the
6:21:34house uhhuh yes and so you know when I
6:21:37went in the house I uh decorated inside
6:21:41mentally I had the floor P plans laid
6:21:45out everything before I even before they
6:21:48even told me that I was the winner and
6:21:51so these are fun things and uh
6:21:54fortunately my husband is very very uh
6:21:56was very supportive and he drew up the
6:21:59plans and we sat there uh in the evening
6:22:03and uh uh you know laid out the
6:22:06whole schematic for the house so when
6:22:09they would tell let us know we won we
6:22:12would act surprised you know because
6:22:14they expected you to be
6:22:16surprised sound like seeing your
6:22:18Christmas presents before yes uhhuh
6:22:21before you know um before Christmas day
6:22:25yeah and it's so much fun especially if
6:22:27you have children or you have U somebody
6:22:30that is um in need and they you they sit
6:22:35there and they say they want this or
6:22:37what something funny happened uh last
6:22:40week There's a new movie uh there's a
6:22:43new sitcom coming out called Sherry and
6:22:46this is that black woman that's been on
6:22:48the vew uh The View with uh Barbara
6:22:52Walters and she started her new sitcom
6:22:55and uh they did a preliminary thing the
6:22:58other night for one of her uh segments
6:23:01and uh she was complaining the three of
6:23:04them were sitting there having coffee
6:23:06and complaining that they hadn't had any
6:23:08fun lately and she said well listen
6:23:12let's draw let's draw a map and I read
6:23:16an article that uh you can uh project
6:23:19for something and then the next scene
6:23:22they were all sitting around the table
6:23:24pasting pictures pies on a sheet of
6:23:27paper and writing out what they wanted
6:23:30as their end result and of course that
6:23:34segment they all got their end result at
6:23:36the end of it uh which was you know uh a
6:23:40little unreal but uh it was a sitcom and
6:23:43they had to have you know beginning and
6:23:45a middle and an ending of it but it was
6:23:48a fun thing and I was elated that uh
6:23:51they had spent that much time sharing
6:23:54with people uh what is it you want and
6:23:57they wrote it down and they had
6:23:59magazines there where they cut out their
6:24:02pictures uh this one woman wanted a
6:24:04husband so she got a very handsome man
6:24:08uh and pasted it up and she had uh these
6:24:11qualifications and when I was listening
6:24:14to it I thought uh as a qualification
6:24:17for a husband or a a mate or somebody I
6:24:22would always say with light interest
6:24:25rests because that's always important
6:24:28when you get a little more specific uh
6:24:31you're going to take them exactly the
6:24:33way he is you you can't change him don't
6:24:36ever try that but you can understand
6:24:39them and you can encourage him and you
6:24:41can love them and it's not
6:24:45100% uh perfect because nobody is but uh
6:24:48when you learn to understand where
6:24:51they're coming from and not quarrel or
6:24:54not uh want to be uh in a power mode
6:24:58that you have to tell them what to do or
6:25:00whatever uh that's not where it's at
6:25:04just enjoy what you have and so he's
6:25:06goodlooking from the back or
6:25:11whatever because many times and I have
6:25:15this weird sense of humor you know I do
6:25:17I love your sense of humor yeah uhhuh
6:25:19yeah because I see somebody and I'll say
6:25:22look at them and and I won't be
6:25:26surprised and I said you got to be
6:25:28better looking from the back and I turn
6:25:30them around it's a joke you know uh
6:25:33lighten them up and get them where
6:25:35they're comfortable and you know uh like
6:25:38Jose used to say you know I never know
6:25:41what you're going to say and I would
6:25:43answer him by saying neither do I until
6:25:46it comes out you know but be spontaneous
6:25:50life is let life be a daring
6:25:53Adventure yeah that's one of things that
6:25:55you say all the time that I love cuz
6:25:57it's true yeah now we have one of our
6:25:59our
6:26:01listeners um has typed out a question
6:26:04and I'm going to read it to you and I
6:26:06think right away I've I've learned from
6:26:08you I want to answer a little bit first
6:26:10she says I desperately want to win a
6:26:12kitchen makeover contest um there is one
6:26:16that currently running so how do does
6:26:18she go about this and she says it's a
6:26:21daily entry and I can picture this as my
6:26:23kitchen but I don't know what else to
6:26:24try
6:26:25and right away when I see that I see the
6:26:28word desperately and I think she needs
6:26:29to D banish the desperation CU doesn't
6:26:34the word desperate push it away from you
6:26:37energetically uh no that's a form of
6:26:40energy oh that's okay it's a form of
6:26:43energy yes uhhuh okay I want it so bad I
6:26:47can taste it I'm in my kitchen and I'm
6:26:50using these Appliance and I'm standing
6:26:53there and I'm so excited about this oh
6:26:56look at the room I have and if uh uh
6:27:00there is a specific uh floor plan for
6:27:04the kitchen that she's wanting I would
6:27:07make the floor plan I would see myself
6:27:10in front of the kitchen especially put a
6:27:12window there so you can look out and uh
6:27:15just have the thing and just feel
6:27:18comfortable with it or put a pie in the
6:27:20oven right now I want uh double ovens
6:27:23you know uh which which I had in my home
6:27:26and I love double ovens so you can be
6:27:28very
6:27:29very down
6:27:32specific if you can you know if you can
6:27:35uh draw your own plans for it but always
6:27:38yourself is having it and feeling elated
6:27:42that you're in the
6:27:44kitchen okay so she needs to get excited
6:27:47yes uhhuh these are these are energy
6:27:49things that you are projecting for your
6:27:52end result energy is the key here how is
6:27:56now here's the other oh I'm sorry Helen
6:27:59yes but how often are you seeing that
6:28:03end result and again I mean repeat it
6:28:07over and over and over again just see
6:28:09have that picture in your mind and then
6:28:12driving the car in between sitting on
6:28:15the commode at night can't fall asleep
6:28:19at night uh all of these opportunities
6:28:22are there to give you more more energy
6:28:25for your end result don't ever miss a
6:28:29bit and uh you know sometime you say
6:28:32well she's getting paranoid you know not
6:28:34not really because there's so many
6:28:37mundane things you have to do and so
6:28:40when you have an opportunity you can
6:28:42only think of one thing at a time and if
6:28:45it's tedious like vacuuming the floor
6:28:47and so forth that's another
6:28:50opportunity so I just uh find these
6:28:53little opportunities and use them to
6:28:56energize whatever I
6:28:58want yeah there's an expression like the
6:29:01Zen of raking this the repetitive task
6:29:03is very Zen likee so anything that
6:29:06you're doing is repetitive use that
6:29:07opportunity to project sure uhuh yes yes
6:29:12and I get emotional and I can feel it
6:29:15you know
6:29:17contented happy uh all these good good
6:29:21feelings that go with
6:29:23it okay now here's another question
6:29:25should she care where this kitchen
6:29:27makeover comes from the reason I ask is
6:29:30so say she's entering for this
6:29:32particular kitchen makeover but what she
6:29:35wants is a kitchen makeover so maybe she
6:29:38shouldn't care if it's this kitchen
6:29:39makeover or she wins the money to do it
6:29:43or you know there's no I see uh here's
6:29:46an opportunity okay uh if they're giving
6:29:49a prize for a kitchen makeover okay but
6:29:52okay but there's other prizes for money
6:29:55you know I had that same thing happen to
6:29:58me I uh wanted a new stove and I entered
6:30:02uh that General Electric uh thing and
6:30:05there were so many many many many prizes
6:30:08and I wanted I wanted the stove and just
6:30:11kept projecting and finally uh the
6:30:15prizes um I had a contest Club here in
6:30:18Dallas and they had all won their prizes
6:30:20and I didn't win a thing and I was kind
6:30:23of um you know down and thought okay uh
6:30:27maybe I hadn't projected enough energy
6:30:30but in the
6:30:32meantime a day or two later I got a
6:30:35$1,000 check uh a spray paint contest
6:30:38that I entered and they were sending
6:30:40,000 as prizes and I laughed and I got
6:30:44elated and I said oh here is my
6:30:49stove I thought I was supposed to get it
6:30:51from GE but uh this spray paint contest
6:30:55gave me $1,000 so I went and bought the
6:30:58stove exactly the brown stove I mean
6:31:01everything was going to be copper and
6:31:03that's what I wanted and I just had was
6:31:06just standing there admiring it when I
6:31:10had this letter from GE and they said
6:31:13they were sorry that they um had
6:31:16misplaced or there was they hadn't
6:31:18notified me and they found out uh this
6:31:22is belated but here is was was my prize
6:31:25for a wash or dry for whatever you I
6:31:29wanted uh and so it was a stove it was a
6:31:33stove so anyway uh when the district
6:31:36manager called me and I said well I just
6:31:39bought a stove and he said well if you
6:31:43had gotten the GE well I got one at
6:31:46Sears because it was
6:31:49cheaper for the same difference uh what
6:31:52is it that you want in GE appliances and
6:31:56that's when I want a new washer and
6:31:57dryer I didn't need it but at at least I
6:32:01got the stove is what what I'm trying to
6:32:04tell you so I got it from the uh spray
6:32:07paint
6:32:08contest so she should just focus on the
6:32:11kitchen uhhuh yeah she should focus on
6:32:14her kitchen and don't doubt where it's
6:32:17coming from because yes there would be
6:32:20an opportunity there uh if there's a
6:32:23contest running but there are other
6:32:25contests that have money that you can
6:32:28utilize and put it in the
6:32:30kitchen so she should just focus on the
6:32:33kitchen so that's the so that's the
6:32:35projecting it so I think I think this is
6:32:38where most people get tripped up and I
6:32:40think I've gotten tripped up on the
6:32:42expecting it it's I've I've known myself
6:32:45to get very anxious when I don't see
6:32:48something I love to see something
6:32:51instantly I think us younger folk who
6:32:56you know are so used to you know the
6:32:58quick TV and the internet and you know
6:33:01fast food and if something doesn't show
6:33:03up in three minutes where is it where is
6:33:06it yeah so do you think people get
6:33:10tripped up on the expected they they
6:33:12don't have enough patience with it and
6:33:13they need to trust more that the
6:33:15universe is shuffling the pieces and
6:33:17give them a little
6:33:18time uh yes I had a I had an email the
6:33:22other day which is kind of interesting
6:33:25uh she's sending off uh for some kind of
6:33:27a email you know where you sign your
6:33:29name Etc and she said the prizes um were
6:33:34I think uh 10,000 so forth but it was on
6:33:37a a month it was going to run all month
6:33:40and she said she submitted all her
6:33:42entries in but she says and yesterday I
6:33:45won $100 and I'm disappointed because I
6:33:49didn't win
6:33:5010,000 and I said well if the contest is
6:33:53still going I says keep on entering it
6:33:56you know uh they have to uh see what's
6:34:00what's wonderful about entering contests
6:34:03they're not they're never rigged uh just
6:34:06get that out of your mind they're not
6:34:08rigged because you're dealing with the
6:34:11um uh they're very well monitored and
6:34:15when they make a decision and it's
6:34:18especially on the radio or television or
6:34:23for a promotional purpose is they have
6:34:26to they have to abide by the rules
6:34:30because they don't want to be sued or
6:34:31anything and so sometime when they say
6:34:34you can win you can enter as often as
6:34:37you like and you can win as often as you
6:34:40like then For Heaven's Sake if she's
6:34:43waiting for
6:34:44$110,000 and she got a hundred which is
6:34:47okay but uh I would continue to enter
6:34:50that one so that's that's what I um
6:34:54shared with her I said that would be
6:34:56what I would do I don't ENT you know in
6:34:59emails because I have other things to do
6:35:02I've got articles to write and
6:35:04blueprints to print up here and so I
6:35:06don't want to take the time but if you
6:35:09have the time that's an excellent way uh
6:35:12to get your end result Carolyn's good at
6:35:16that you know you like to enter that
6:35:18kind of a
6:35:19contest I I like to enter all kinds of
6:35:22contests and and I like to teach people
6:35:25how to do it cuz it's so much fun when
6:35:27not just I win but all my you know all
6:35:29my new contest buddies win yes oh yes
6:35:33anytime I hear I I get elated I really
6:35:36and truly do I and as I say I even offer
6:35:41help uh with energy anytime anybody
6:35:44emails me and say I've got to do this
6:35:47would you send me energy well Heavens
6:35:50yes and we know energy you're sending
6:35:53energy
6:35:55and uh you know uh if you can see auras
6:35:58at uh sometime uh way way in the past I
6:36:02went to um one of the um weekend
6:36:06Retreats uh where you were taught how to
6:36:09uh do you know look at auras Etc and uh
6:36:13we did projections there and we could
6:36:16actually see energy another thing when I
6:36:20was in Russia at the one of the
6:36:22conferences and the woman UPF front uh
6:36:26had um uh requests for healing and there
6:36:31was one woman and you had to be there to
6:36:34experience it because it was awesome
6:36:38this woman was upfront and she was one
6:36:41of the top people that was able to send
6:36:46healing energy and uh this woman was in
6:36:49a wheelchair in the back of the room and
6:36:52I'd say that was 50 or 70 5 ft back of
6:36:55the room but uh she wanted to have uh to
6:36:59be more
6:37:00comfortable and uh she send this energy
6:37:03and I was sitting in the in in the uh in
6:37:07the aisle there and I actually saw
6:37:11actually saw Red Energy just like a uh
6:37:17like a flashl is what it reminded me
6:37:20going to this woman's foot and I said
6:37:24sat there and I looked turned to the
6:37:26other woman and I said did you see that
6:37:28energy that came from her and most of
6:37:31people don't but when you're doing uh
6:37:34when you're uh really serious about
6:37:37studying the oric field around people
6:37:40then you can automatically see
6:37:42energy you know I that's why if they're
6:37:45mad sad glad or bad I can see that when
6:37:48they come into this uh into my room here
6:37:52but uh anyway I was elated that uh the
6:37:56energy and there's not uh a particular
6:38:00distance as it has to be in the room it
6:38:02can go forever and at a recent uh
6:38:06convention at Laredo uh the Silva method
6:38:10training they had their convention in uh
6:38:14uh Austin in in August and they had a
6:38:19scientist and a physicist and uh really
6:38:22and truly a big name I don't even recall
6:38:25his name but uh he was talking about
6:38:28projecting energy and he had done
6:38:32research and said yes definitely this
6:38:36energy can come out of a person and go
6:38:41you know in that sort of like flashlight
6:38:44that I had experienced so long time
6:38:47ago so yes I'll give you energy yeah I I
6:38:50send energy and even feeling better
6:38:54uh one of the girls stubbed her toe a
6:38:58couple of weeks ago and she called and
6:38:59she said I'm an utter utter Agony can
6:39:03you help me heal it and I said you're
6:39:06thing Annie I said just put your feet up
6:39:08and you got my
6:39:10energy and then the day later she said
6:39:13I'm able to put my shoe
6:39:16on so she really really banged up one of
6:39:20her one of her toes so she's okay so so
6:39:24yes uh send energy send uh anytime
6:39:27anybody asks you uh and don't ever
6:39:31deprive anybody and say well we're in
6:39:33competition the only competition lovely
6:39:36people is you have is with
6:39:38yourself so give it I mean the more
6:39:41energy you give the more you have well I
6:39:45tell people there are so many contests
6:39:47running in the United States and Canada
6:39:49right now it's impossible to enter them
6:39:51all uhhuh sure
6:39:55so take
6:39:58advantage like I'm sending I'm sending
6:40:01Carolyn energy to get over her little
6:40:03raspy uh throat I know my voice there's
6:40:06there's enough prizes for everybody sure
6:40:10sure okay yeah I'm okay so I think we've
6:40:16we've covered it all and and I want to
6:40:18know has anybody got any question any
6:40:20any other people in the chat room have
6:40:21any
6:40:22questions
6:40:28no I don't think we do so I will hold on
6:40:31and tell people how we can win Helen why
6:40:34don't you tell them your favorite
6:40:37quote well you know I I there's a lot of
6:40:41quotes my quote is like either daring
6:40:43Adventure or nothing but I have another
6:40:46one I think is
6:40:49good okay I'll cover up your mouth
6:40:55okay I have I I want you to know that I
6:40:58cannot teach any anyone anything I can
6:41:01only make them think because oh that's a
6:41:04good idea yes that's a good idea because
6:41:09uh you can listen all right now if
6:41:11you're starting to think and uh I was
6:41:14able you know when I was on the lecture
6:41:16circuit up there on the podium and
6:41:18people come would come with their hands
6:41:21folded tight against their
6:41:24stomachs especially the men well the
6:41:27minute that they opened their hands and
6:41:31sort of shook a little and then
6:41:33tightened it back up I knew that I had
6:41:36given them something to think and it was
6:41:38very exciting for me because I can I
6:41:41could read the audience you know after
6:41:43you uh talked for so many years and
6:41:46dealing with people you pretty well are
6:41:49get very
6:41:50insightful and that was always a big
6:41:52plus when I saw people that were
6:41:55thinking now on what I had
6:41:58suggested you're only getting my you're
6:42:02only getting my opinions now do with it
6:42:05what you want
6:42:06to okay well now that I pre we
6:42:10appreciate that and you know what I I
6:42:11think a lot of people really um take to
6:42:14heart what you have to
6:42:16say so I want to thank you for being my
6:42:18guest today and you already gave your
6:42:22favorite quote and I think it's true cuz
6:42:24I
6:42:25think one of the things is that um
6:42:30people see Life as a
6:42:32struggle
6:42:35and and you know it's interesting I've
6:42:38never really seen it that way and when
6:42:41you when you use Helen Keller's
6:42:45quote I I knew we were kindered spirits
6:42:47and her quote is life is either a daring
6:42:49Adventure or it's nothing at all and I
6:42:51think this whole
6:42:54um adventure of entering contest and
6:42:57winning is is really tied into maybe she
6:43:01would have been a a contester had she
6:43:03been born
6:43:04nowadays well evidently she knew how to
6:43:07project because look what she
6:43:09accomplished being blind I mean this is
6:43:13phenomenal she just learned an awful lot
6:43:15in that
6:43:16lifetime she did and you know we talk
6:43:20about your Blueprints and um it's not
6:43:22something that people can buy um in a
6:43:25store and so I'm going to just tell
6:43:27everyone if you want a blueprint now
6:43:29Helen Helen is 85 she doesn't put these
6:43:32out like on an assembly line they do
6:43:34take a bit of
6:43:35time um so be a little patient but the
6:43:39there U you can go to delt sciences.com
6:43:42and there's
6:43:45information on all um her books and
6:43:49her on her Blueprints and you can order
6:43:53them right
6:43:55there okay and I'm going to tell people
6:43:58how to win the divine. ca sweatshirt I
6:44:00love
6:44:02this I know we had so we have so many
6:44:05prizes that I love every show I give
6:44:07away a prize it's so
6:44:08fun I you know it's it's it's as fun I
6:44:12don't know if people realize this it's
6:44:13as fun for me to give away prizes as it
6:44:16is when I win them I love giving stuff
6:44:19away it's so fun enter me so I need
6:44:22people to send an email and in the
6:44:24subject I want you to put Divine and by
6:44:26the way if you haven't checked out
6:44:28divine. ca I know it's a Canadian site
6:44:30but they have members from all over the
6:44:31world it's a really great site so go
6:44:34check out divine. ca but in the subject
6:44:37put Divine and send the email to enter
6:44:40me@ contest queen.com so e n t r m
6:44:46contest queen.com and put your name
6:44:48address and phone number in the body so
6:44:50it's really easy for me to get you the
6:44:52prize if you're selected as the
6:44:54winner now everyone can tune in on
6:44:56Monday October 19th as my guest will be
6:44:59Valerie Mitchell from sweeps for
6:45:02bloggers then that's s we PS number four
6:45:07bloggers and this is really neat because
6:45:09this is one of the fairly new ways to
6:45:11enter and win is um finding entering and
6:45:16winning prizes from blog contest because
6:45:18there's a lot of little tips and tricks
6:45:21that are different on blog contest and
6:45:23they are on regular entry form style
6:45:25contest so she's going to teach us how
6:45:27to do that and she also has a lot of
6:45:30really great ones on her website herself
6:45:32so we're going to talk about that and
6:45:34Helen again thank you for being my guest
6:45:36and thank you everyone for tuning in to
6:45:38with the contest Queen where the winning
6:45:45begins are we done hi everyone this is
6:45:49Vision Lani and I have a very very
6:45:52special person on the the phone with me
6:45:54right now her name is Helen hadel and
6:45:57she's the author of the book contesting
6:46:00now I got to tell you about Helen um she
6:46:04has done something which most people
6:46:05would say is impossible basically Helen
6:46:10has this weird ability to win every
6:46:13contest she participates in she's she's
6:46:16an amazing woman Joe vital one of the
6:46:19teachers of the secret wrote an article
6:46:21in his blog saying this is a lady who
6:46:23should have been in the secret and in
6:46:26this interview Helen's going to share
6:46:27the story of her life she's going to
6:46:29talk about some of the Masters that she
6:46:31had um the the good chance of knowing
6:46:34and studying from Master such as Jose
6:46:36Silva and she's going to talk a little
6:46:38bit about her story about how she
6:46:41developed this I don't know if you can
6:46:43call it a theory or an art of contesting
6:46:46but she's going to talk about how she is
6:46:49able to influence reality or or call it
6:46:53man facturing luck when it comes to her
6:46:55life and she's also going to share a
6:46:58remarkable story of how she ended up
6:47:00writing a book that sold three million
6:47:03copies Helen how are
6:47:06you absolutely great this
6:47:09evening okay let me start up by if
6:47:13anybody wants to be a winner then they
6:47:15should B uh they should borrow my motto
6:47:19and my motto is Spec s p EC and what
6:47:25that means is when you want something
6:47:28you first select IT project it expect it
6:47:35and then you collect it so it's uh it's
6:47:38very simple thing because um these are
6:47:42the this is really what's worked for me
6:47:45and I it used to be fun I'd say well
6:47:47what do we want what do we want to win
6:47:50this month and we would all sit here as
6:47:53a family unit and let's say we decide to
6:47:56go to
6:47:57Disneyland all right I we selected it
6:48:00now we're projecting it and then we
6:48:03expected and then we collected but we'd
6:48:06have to enter a contest that was
6:48:08offering a trip to
6:48:10Disneyland and there were many many many
6:48:12contests there in the early 70s here in
6:48:16the United States um you know uh sweep
6:48:20Stakes contests are where you uh
6:48:23complete 25 words or less and uh that's
6:48:27what I would do I would um write these
6:48:3125 words and I had this offbeat sense of
6:48:34humor because I always feel that life is
6:48:37either a daring Adventure or nothing and
6:48:40I've made it quite daring over the years
6:48:43and so this is what we would do and from
6:48:46one thing led to another and yes uh one
6:48:50day one week month rather I went every
6:48:53contest I entered I would select um
6:48:57maybe first prize because after a while
6:49:00you know you get jaded and you have
6:49:02enough Fred pans or or trips or whatever
6:49:06you want and so my biggest prize um was
6:49:10this fabulous fabulous home that I built
6:49:14in uh R cleanness here in Dallas in the
6:49:18Dallas area so I guess that was um that
6:49:22uh that that was my biggest contest
6:49:25prize after I won that uh what else is
6:49:29there I went a couple of cars trips
6:49:32wherever I wanted to go and so forth and
6:49:35then it wasn't uh it wasn't stimulating
6:49:38anymore it wasn't exciting anymore and
6:49:41then all of a sudden this beautiful man
6:49:44appeared in my life Jose Silva and when
6:49:48I first met him he was at he was out
6:49:51here in in Fort Worth doing a free
6:49:54lecture and the first thing I I'm sort
6:49:57of bold and uh I was not able to
6:50:01understand his accent and so during the
6:50:04break I got up and I said listen I said
6:50:08I'm fascinating with what you're telling
6:50:10us but you talk too fast and so he just
6:50:14kind of looked at me and no and he said
6:50:18okay and then he slowed
6:50:20down after we got through with his
6:50:23introductory lecture I was so fast with
6:50:27him I asked him to come home and I said
6:50:30come on home and meet my husband and
6:50:33we'll just have a a coffee break and he
6:50:37accepted and then he told me he said he
6:50:40was looking uh for a sponsor or a
6:50:44secretary to help him get started in in
6:50:48um getting these uh getting suitable
6:50:51places so he could teach
6:50:54I volunteered and we started in
6:50:57Dallas and after that I mean it was just
6:51:00uh we went to far ERS and we went to
6:51:03other towns and I opened other areas for
6:51:06them and then I did
6:51:08conventions as one of the key speakers
6:51:11because now after you once really and
6:51:15truly have all your physical things and
6:51:17then you start wondering am I a special
6:51:20person am I a wit you know I've been
6:51:22used accused of being called a witch I'm
6:51:26using Witchcraft and I said no no no
6:51:28it's
6:51:30wishcraft there's a big big difference
6:51:32here and so I started out by um doing
6:51:37something real real offbeat and in my
6:51:40second book that I've written and it's
6:51:42been published recently on the
6:51:45confessions of an 8 84 year old sage I
6:51:49talk about now I think I want to
6:51:52levitate
6:51:53now I think I want to use mental
6:51:55telepathy now I want to know the
6:51:58difference between a thought form and a
6:52:01person that comes to you by their own
6:52:04valtion because I can see in other
6:52:07dimensions and there number of people
6:52:09that can do this so I don't have a brain
6:52:12tumor or I'm not crazy because I see
6:52:16these people but now I was wondering is
6:52:19it a thought form I create is this I
6:52:23learned from Jose because he said many
6:52:25of many times there thought forms and
6:52:28you create them and so in my book uh
6:52:33when I do quite an
6:52:35extensive uh description of how Jose and
6:52:38I work together we worked with the
6:52:41thought form because people would come
6:52:43to a lesson and ask for Jose's help and
6:52:48I would listen and I learned so much so
6:52:52I wanted to to prove to myself so I went
6:52:54to England sat in Seance rooms for three
6:52:57month three weeks and when I came out of
6:53:01there I knew that uh the difference
6:53:04between aditions and thought forms uh in
6:53:08New York I had a friend and she said get
6:53:11on the talk show and tell these people
6:53:13because I think this is an interesting
6:53:16subject which I did and somebody heard
6:53:20me and that's when I was invited to
6:53:22write Russia to present my paper on
6:53:26aberrations and thought
6:53:28forms I then uh did experimenting with
6:53:32um telepathy Jose was very very good
6:53:36receiver in telepathy I was an excellent
6:53:40sender and we we got to to be so
6:53:44proficient it was he we would do things
6:53:47verbatim he would know what I was
6:53:50telepathy telepathically telling him I
6:53:53also have a son that's very very good at
6:53:55this and it's a fun thing you know uh
6:53:59when you are um thinking about a person
6:54:04and you are hoping that they call or uh
6:54:07just thinking about them in general uh
6:54:10they pick up your message and uh if it's
6:54:13positive creative and so forth they may
6:54:16call you or they may smile and think of
6:54:18you and they may think it's their idea
6:54:22so when I I was with Jose we did a a
6:54:25very
6:54:27interesting we did a very interesting uh
6:54:31experiment and my son as I said was a
6:54:33good receiver so I would conjure up
6:54:37things that I'd want him to do and he
6:54:39would do them and finally he got wise
6:54:42and he said mother is that my idea or
6:54:46yours and it
6:54:48usually was my idea and that's when I
6:54:51said honey you can accept or reject it
6:54:56and after a while he would say well I
6:54:59got your message and is this what you
6:55:01wanted and we're just I mean it's just
6:55:04like so what else is new uh when I was
6:55:08with the Silba method I would um go out
6:55:11to the various uh centers now that we
6:55:15had around the country where the where
6:55:18the instructors were and one weekend I
6:55:21was invited up to um Hamilton Ohio and
6:55:26there was an instructor up there and he
6:55:28was called Ken
6:55:29OG and after I did my
6:55:32workshop uh and I had written my book
6:55:37and it had just come out that was in the
6:55:38early
6:55:3970s and uh he said I'd like to um go
6:55:43ahead and uh and go ahead and use your
6:55:47book and uh uh really and truly I have a
6:55:51a plan and the scheme well I looked at
6:55:54him and he was just a young guy he
6:55:57didn't he lived with his mother he
6:55:59didn't even have a car but he had an
6:56:03intense desire and his desire was to
6:56:07make a million dollars so he could go to
6:56:10India he was very into meditation and
6:56:14the holy men Etc and he said what would
6:56:16you like to do and I said well when I
6:56:19retire I'd like to buy uh some property
6:56:23on the lake and build a center where
6:56:26people can come and a dormatory also
6:56:30where people can come and I can and
6:56:33teach them selfawareness because that
6:56:36was where I was very very interested in
6:56:39and so he said okay so I never heard
6:56:42from him and my book is doing very very
6:56:45well now because um the uh publisher was
6:56:49impressed with it and he was selling it
6:56:51for me I was selling it when I went out
6:56:55uh on a lecture
6:56:57tour one weekend Ken knocked on my door
6:57:02with his brother and his aunt and said
6:57:05I'm not going to leave Texas until I get
6:57:09a commitment that I can distribute your
6:57:12book well you didn't have my husband
6:57:16said I wouldn't even work with him
6:57:18because he doesn't have any money we
6:57:20don't know anything about him
6:57:23and that's uh usually I'm uh very very
6:57:26um tuned in with u people's
6:57:30vibrations their voice resonance their
6:57:33birthday Etc and I'm just this is
6:57:36something that I'm interested in and uh
6:57:40I said well okay I think I'm going to
6:57:42sign a contract with them and my husband
6:57:45was still opposed which is perfectly all
6:57:48right because it was my
6:57:50idea and uh all Ken did we he said um
6:57:54give me about 4 months and I'll see what
6:57:57I can do for you and at that time the
6:58:01book was very popular and I had been out
6:58:04of copies and I'd written a story for a
6:58:07good hous keeping magazine and I selling
6:58:11a th copies a day from this magazine
6:58:14article I ran out of books but my
6:58:18contast cont I mean my contract said I
6:58:21couldn't I couldn't print it anymore so
6:58:24now it's been four or five months and my
6:58:28husband is saying I don't think you need
6:58:30a good idea one day Ken called me and
6:58:34said are you sitting down Mrs
6:58:37hadel he said I took your book and put
6:58:42it on direct mail I went to the contest
6:58:48uh judging firms bought their list of
6:58:52people that enter contests I sent him a
6:58:56postcard about you're winning and he
6:58:59said we're selling 1,500 books a day and
6:59:04this is your uh this this is your
6:59:08commission so I am telling you I had to
6:59:12sit down because it was
6:59:14$115,000 at that time that was very very
6:59:18nice and so I went ahead and bought this
6:59:215 Acres where I'm living presently
6:59:24living I built a
6:59:26dormatory I built a center all out of
6:59:31the just all other the things that I'd
6:59:33gotten from my book every three months
6:59:36he'd sent me a huge huge check and he
6:59:40had great plenty of money also when he
6:59:43had enough money uh he said okay you're
6:59:47I'm giv back the book to you and I'm
6:59:49going to India it's been a night we've
6:59:52had a nice nice encounter and that was
6:59:55it so here I have I have everything has
6:59:58been paid for and that was
7:00:01absolutely uh I selected it I projected
7:00:05it I expected it and then I collected it
7:00:08which he did another thing when you are
7:00:12vying for a contest or a prize there's
7:00:16something else that you need to um
7:00:19consider and that's emotion
7:00:22emot emotion is the energy that causes
7:00:26things to
7:00:28materialize much faster so if you can
7:00:31get energy like you can taste it you can
7:00:34feel it you can smell the uphostery in
7:00:36the car if it's a car you want then it's
7:00:40going to energy works faster we're
7:00:43working with energy here that's all it
7:00:46is and when you have more intense energy
7:00:49and then you can manifest faster
7:00:52movie stars use this they call it animal
7:00:55magnetism but it's an energy thing and
7:00:58it's enthusiasm and that makes a winner
7:01:02being positive now how does one develop
7:01:06being positive and stay with it I have
7:01:10something here that I think you ought to
7:01:12consider because it's something that I
7:01:15teach to my students that come out here
7:01:18for
7:01:19self-awareness and I always tell them
7:01:22watch your thoughts they become words
7:01:26watch your words they become
7:01:30actions watch your actions they become
7:01:35habits watch your habits they become
7:01:39character and watch your character for
7:01:42it becomes your
7:01:45destiny and this is very very important
7:01:48that's a beautiful quote it's you
7:01:51consider this and another thing was the
7:01:54sense of humor I always say that
7:01:57um how to succeed in life you only need
7:02:01three things and that's a wishbone a
7:02:05backbone and a funny bone and if you had
7:02:08that I mean that's
7:02:12very very true and then it's a fun and
7:02:16game I mean life is a fun is either a
7:02:18daring Adventure or nothing and I've
7:02:20made it daring because I feel that I've
7:02:23been very very successful in anything I
7:02:27I pursue and I still am doing this and
7:02:32it's remarkable I can squeal with
7:02:35delight when something manifests for me
7:02:39it's just like being a kid again in a
7:02:42candy store when my when my when it
7:02:45comes to fruit I call it do you have a
7:02:49question I could talk for yes absolutely
7:02:51well one of the things I wanted to ask
7:02:52you was you said people come to you um
7:02:56come to where you are located for your
7:02:58training programs where where exactly
7:03:00are you located right now I'm sure the
7:03:02audience would love to know yeah I'm 50
7:03:05miles uh from Dallas now at 20 22 miles
7:03:09from the
7:03:10airport uh I don't have guests here
7:03:13anymore but I've done something in the p
7:03:15in the last 15 years I do people's
7:03:20Blueprints and uh and I get requests
7:03:22from all over the world and what I do is
7:03:26I all I need is your birthday then I
7:03:28find I sit here in my computer and
7:03:34I I I zap in on you and I know what
7:03:38makes you tick click and get sick are
7:03:41you mad sad or glad uh all of these
7:03:44things come to me and I do 20
7:03:48pages of all about you everybody wants
7:03:51know about themselves they really should
7:03:54because when you know about yourself
7:03:57know theirself and then you can uh well
7:03:59you're more
7:04:01successful it's just a more fun thing
7:04:04that's that's interesting now and what
7:04:06what do you charge for this uh it's $35
7:04:09for this entire blueprint I put it in a
7:04:13photo album so you can review it and
7:04:17today I had an order for four of them
7:04:20and this is real interesting because
7:04:22more men are ordering it than than women
7:04:27I did Joe the the tals blueprint and it
7:04:31was a hoot he called me and he said my
7:04:34gracious Were You On Target I saw him uh
7:04:39I said I knew you when he was in uh we
7:04:42were in Spain together and he was a monk
7:04:47and I was a Mother Superior now this is
7:04:49funny a Mother Superior and he got tired
7:04:52and I he start monking around with one
7:04:55of the nuns
7:04:57and and so from that period on I called
7:05:01him a monk and evidently he had
7:05:04remembered it because he just got
7:05:06hysterical put it on his blog and now
7:05:10everybody that contacts me said I know
7:05:13um Joe the monk sent me and told me that
7:05:17I needed to get your blueprint so I'm
7:05:20doing blueprints and it's taking up most
7:05:23of my time I see but and yeah and um
7:05:27let's see a doctor from uh Hong Kong
7:05:30called me last week do you do Blueprints
7:05:34and I said yes so I get them from all
7:05:37over the world and just a word of mouth
7:05:40thing because I don't do any advertising
7:05:42don't need to I'm busy all the time and
7:05:47uh now the postage has gone up so I have
7:05:50to it's you know it's 11
7:05:52to send one of those blueprints out of
7:05:54the country and so I'm having a lot of
7:05:57fun with them I see now what what does
7:06:00someone get out of These
7:06:02Blueprints um it's
7:06:05self-awareness uh first of all I tell
7:06:07you the vibration everything is a
7:06:09vibration tell you the vibration of what
7:06:12your name is and what you um when people
7:06:16talk about you uh what vibration you you
7:06:21you you get from that is all it is and
7:06:24then when you come into a lifetime you
7:06:27come in in the what I call the
7:06:29informative the month you were born the
7:06:32day you born is the productive and the
7:06:35year you were born is the Harvest cycle
7:06:39I then take you through the three
7:06:41periods of your lifetime I take you to
7:06:44the period of what you were to do this
7:06:49lifetime what is your Mission we all
7:06:52have a mission I mine is a five which is
7:06:56an adventurer and each life I mean each
7:07:02um thing that I add up is your um what
7:07:08what your what your mission is is what
7:07:09I'm trying to say I'm trying to look and
7:07:11find here a paper that would clarify it
7:07:15but if you're one you're a Pioneer and
7:07:18you go where no man had gone before and
7:07:21and uh you're investigating researching
7:07:24and doing things to help people to help
7:07:28themselves if your lifetime path and
7:07:32when I say your lifetime path that's
7:07:34your month day and year which I add up
7:07:37and then I say okay if you have a two
7:07:41and then you are a um a a career person
7:07:46you are um uh very very very um
7:07:50diplomatic is where would say three
7:07:53you're the artist four you're the
7:07:55Builder and this is a very serious
7:07:59project five you're the adventure six
7:08:02the cosmic parent I just did a one of a
7:08:06one woman that she she'd been wanting to
7:08:09have a child and she's never been able
7:08:12to conceive and she's a cosmic parent
7:08:16which tells me uh she's missing a bit
7:08:19because she can I mean there are many
7:08:23opportunities to fulfill that need of
7:08:26being a parent you know and being
7:08:29sharing and caring so I did quite a nice
7:08:32blueprint for her seven is the
7:08:36philosopher eight is the executive and
7:08:39nine is the
7:08:41humanitarian which um you are sharing
7:08:44with people and uh helping them anytime
7:08:48I see a blueprint with sevens and nine
7:08:51mind I know that they're tuned in and
7:08:55eventually they can see in this other
7:08:57dimension anybody can do that and the
7:09:00criteria would be desire starting out
7:09:03with meditation is this what you want
7:09:06there's nothing you can't have when you
7:09:09once choose what you want and then you
7:09:13project it and then you have to expect
7:09:16it and then it comes you collect it and
7:09:19these are the so if you're wanting to be
7:09:22a winner then For Heaven's Sake remember
7:09:25the spec modotto because I drill on that
7:09:31constantly and I have a lot of um uh I
7:09:34noticed I looked at your blog the other
7:09:37day and you have a lot of
7:09:39testimonials which I think is fantastic
7:09:43because there's nothing better than uh
7:09:46knowing that someone else has
7:09:48accomplished this and that you too can
7:09:51do it because you know we learn from
7:09:54other
7:09:56people Helen what I wanted to ask you
7:09:59was how did you come up with the concept
7:10:02of spec SB and what what was that
7:10:06trigger that happened in your life that
7:10:09made you discover you had these
7:10:11abilities or to help you develop these
7:10:15abilities well initially I was 5 years
7:10:18old I lived in South Dakota and uh my
7:10:22parent my mother was German my dad was
7:10:25Russian and brought up in the Catholic
7:10:28church and my grandfather was dying and
7:10:33they were very deeply deeply religious
7:10:36and on the in the bedroom of my
7:10:39grandmother and grandfather she had a
7:10:41huge picture of an
7:10:44Angel and I would visit her because they
7:10:47just lived right across the street from
7:10:49us now he's dying and all the people are
7:10:53around and are in the room I wanted to
7:10:55be in the room I'm 5 years old my mother
7:10:58said no go out and play with your
7:11:00cousins and I said no I want to see that
7:11:03angel that's coming cuz my grandmother
7:11:06said an angels coming to take my
7:11:09granddad okay so my mother and because
7:11:12I'm fussing and screaming and I want to
7:11:14see that angel and so she let me in the
7:11:18room where he's dying and all these SE
7:11:21people standing around I'm waiting for
7:11:24this Angel to come because what does a
7:11:265-year-old know you know and all of a
7:11:30sudden my my my granddad was on the bed
7:11:34he had um pneumonia and he's have
7:11:37breathing I mean there's just a labor to
7:11:40breathe and all of a sudden he sits up
7:11:42in bed and through the wall a lot of
7:11:47people came he gets up out of bed he
7:11:51smiles and he goes through the wall with
7:11:54these people wait you're saying you saw
7:11:57this as a 5-year-old yes as a 5-year-old
7:12:00and I am confused because Granddad is
7:12:03laying on the bed yet he's up there and
7:12:07he went with these people and I I uh
7:12:11after after you know uh the priest was
7:12:14there and then uh they pronounced him
7:12:16dead and we got walked out of the room
7:12:19and I'm looking up at my mother and I'm
7:12:21bewildered and I said you know something
7:12:23granddaddy didn't have an angel he went
7:12:26with all those old people and she
7:12:30thought I was bunkers of course when I
7:12:33was seeing things like that she would
7:12:35say I lied or I had a vivid imagination
7:12:40and she says don't talk about that and
7:12:43so I was
7:12:44squelched uh as a child and I would try
7:12:47to keep things to myself until I was 17
7:12:52years old and at 17 years old I had
7:12:56rheumatic fever and when I got that I
7:12:59was really I was in bed I mean
7:13:02everything ACH uh there was no medical
7:13:06cure for it at that time all it was was
7:13:09aspirin and rest and finally they did
7:13:13discover penic penicillin about that
7:13:15time but now I had tremendous tremendous
7:13:20challenges with my my heart I couldn't
7:13:22breathe and uh one night I'm laying in
7:13:25bed after months and I very Catholic
7:13:30very religious I said I want to die it's
7:13:34time I don't want to be a burden to my
7:13:36mother anymore and I can't do anything
7:13:40I'm in pain I want to die now and I'm
7:13:45very very determined and that's when a
7:13:50being appeared and this being I mean was
7:13:54just like an ordinary man and he said
7:13:57you can't die and I said why not and he
7:14:01said because you came in here you come
7:14:04in here for a purpose you you have a
7:14:07physical body for a purpose and your
7:14:10work has not begun and I said how can I
7:14:13do anything he said you're
7:14:16healed and when he said I was healed I
7:14:20um and then he looked left and then I
7:14:22called my mother and I said uh she she
7:14:26came running into the room and I said
7:14:28this man was just here uh and he's
7:14:31healed I didn't say it was Jesus uh he
7:14:33looked just like a man and so um she
7:14:37pulled out the thermometer and she
7:14:39thought I had this temperature again and
7:14:42I I didn't have the temperature and she
7:14:44pulls back the bed covers because when
7:14:46you have romatic fever uh all your
7:14:48joints are swollen and everything was
7:14:51still swollen uh my ankles and my uh
7:14:55knees were swollen and she said you just
7:14:57had a nice dream you just and I said no
7:15:00no no he said I was healed well the next
7:15:03morning I didn't know any better I just
7:15:06get out a bit don't have any pain
7:15:10whatsoever get into the kitchen and I
7:15:12says I'm going to go back to school
7:15:14today and she was absolutely done she
7:15:18said you can't I said well I'm Healed
7:15:21I'm there's nothing wrong with me she
7:15:23called the doctor and at that time
7:15:26doctors came and uh came to your house
7:15:29and he came and he says well I'm going
7:15:31to come by and see this and when he came
7:15:35by he examined me he said there's
7:15:38nothing wrong with her she's all right
7:15:42and the funny thing was there was quite
7:15:44a few there was another one of my
7:15:46schoolmates that also had rheumatic
7:15:49fever and he died
7:15:51uh they didn't tell me that until later
7:15:53on because they thought I would um I'd
7:15:56be affected by it but actually because
7:16:00uh so much heart damage uh because they
7:16:04didn't know what to do with it you know
7:16:06but anyway I drew a picture now here
7:16:11this man is and I and then after I went
7:16:14back to school and I got busy with other
7:16:17things and so forth and this man I never
7:16:20saw saw him again
7:16:22until until I start winning contests and
7:16:27I had so many many calls from people and
7:16:30I always answer my phone I mean I I
7:16:33don't think I'm a special person and if
7:16:36they take the time to call me I'll I'll
7:16:39talk to them and so I'm sitting there
7:16:42and I'm deciding to write this book and
7:16:45while I'm writing the book this man
7:16:48appears again just out of the blue same
7:16:51man smiling and he said okay he said
7:16:55you're starting your mission and it's
7:16:58the beginning and we're going to help
7:17:00you and when he said that it was a month
7:17:04or two later that's when Jose
7:17:07appeared and uh when Jose appeared and I
7:17:11took him to my home and um uh wanted to
7:17:15get better acquainted with him that
7:17:16night I had a dream and said you're to
7:17:19help this man your mission is to help
7:17:22this man and so this man Jose Silva yes
7:17:27yes uhuh yes and so we um it was I
7:17:31learned so much from Jose and I think he
7:17:34learned from me because uh we we were
7:17:37very very close and uh we would sit for
7:17:42our he would bring books and he would
7:17:44say you have to read this book you have
7:17:46to read this book and every book that I
7:17:49read I would say okay now I can do this
7:17:53and uh one day he came and I uh drew a
7:17:58picture finally had no artistic ability
7:18:02but Drew this mambas picture of this
7:18:04being that appeared to me and all these
7:18:07people that were behind him and I would
7:18:10say uh to while I was drawing it making
7:18:13a
7:18:14sketch I said stand still so I can get
7:18:18and this sounds ridiculous because this
7:18:21is in the other dimension but he did and
7:18:23I finished the picture I hung it up and
7:18:27the picture is about three feet by I
7:18:30would say 5 feet and it's a I'll send
7:18:33you a copy of the picture and you can uh
7:18:36because one uh Jose came one time with a
7:18:40group of his U teachers that he was
7:18:43teaching there in Dallas and one of the
7:18:46teachers I said look look at uh this man
7:18:49appeared to me and I had to do his
7:18:52portrait um and so this man the one of
7:18:55the teachers said well he's not real he
7:18:58said uh he doesn't have um his face is
7:19:02too uh uh he said it's not a real person
7:19:06and Jose looked at him and sort of
7:19:08frowned and he said what makes you think
7:19:10he's from this
7:19:13Dimension had cracked up because he
7:19:16wasn't from this Dimension well anyway
7:19:18you're going to see this picture I'll
7:19:20I'll send you a copy of looking forward
7:19:22to it
7:19:24and now how how did these childhood
7:19:27experiences how did that lead to um your
7:19:30first contest when I mean when you
7:19:32entered your first contest did you go in
7:19:35with the SB formula or did you develop
7:19:39that later over time I I I developed
7:19:42that uh what happened was I read the
7:19:45book The Power of Positive Thinking by
7:19:49Norman Vincent Peele mhm and one thing
7:19:52in the book said you can have anything
7:19:54you want provided you know what it is
7:19:57and see yourself is already having it
7:20:01and that's when I came up with hey
7:20:04that's it spec that's it you know
7:20:07selected projected expected
7:20:10collected and when after I read the book
7:20:14now I'm a little happy Homemaker I have
7:20:16three children my husband never worked I
7:20:20mean I mean I never worked because at
7:20:22that time you know the man was the bread
7:20:25winner of the house my husband had a
7:20:27college education and uh just was
7:20:30working every day and I stayed home with
7:20:32three children because he wouldn't let
7:20:34me work I mean stay home with the kids
7:20:37and then I got bored and that's when I
7:20:40read Vincent peele's book and said hey
7:20:43you have anything you want so that night
7:20:46my husband came in he's reading the
7:20:48Dallas paper and I I said I read this
7:20:51book and you know something I'm going to
7:20:53start entering contest to win things he
7:20:56said what do you want to win I said oh
7:20:59uh what should we get started with and
7:21:02he laughed he was very he's always been
7:21:04very supportive he laughed and he said
7:21:07well here look at uh they're getting an
7:21:09outboard motor here uh in the cocacola
7:21:13company and 25 words while you take
7:21:16cocacola on
7:21:17outings and he said why don't you win me
7:21:20this outboard motor and I said okay I
7:21:24never I mean never questioned it you
7:21:26know I'm thinking Vincent Peele knows
7:21:28everything so that night I sat in a
7:21:32chair I I uh had this ability to
7:21:37temporarily project into a person become
7:21:40a
7:21:41momentarily and so I project pretended
7:21:43I'm my husband and I'm seeing now they
7:21:46say why do you take cocacola on
7:21:51outings and I thought okay my husband
7:21:54likes to fish he has this little boat he
7:21:57goes out and it's relaxing to the
7:22:01children are too small to go with him
7:22:03but he does we're living on the lake
7:22:05here and he goes out fishing and so I
7:22:09wrote this 25 words I'm a lone wolf
7:22:15fisherman CS are my silent Partners they
7:22:20they contribute no yakity Yak only cool
7:22:24enjoyment when called upon I send the
7:22:28entry I showed him the entry I send it
7:22:31in and I said I wonder how long it's
7:22:35going to take him to let us know we won
7:22:39two weeks later the telephone rang Mr
7:22:43Hado yes you want an outboard motor okay
7:22:48and then I said okay now what do we want
7:22:50to win
7:22:51next so my daughter wants a bicycle so
7:22:55we um enter the um to um name a pony and
7:23:02she can win this
7:23:03bicycle and so we sit around and here's
7:23:06these children are all small yet and I'm
7:23:09encouraged him how can we name a pony
7:23:14and he said well Prince Charming and I
7:23:16said that's not original and then I came
7:23:19up with prance Charming because ad do
7:23:24princes and we these are coined words uh
7:23:29my mind works a mile a minute we send it
7:23:32off and she got her
7:23:34bicycle and then uh We Got U now they
7:23:38want to do this now they want to do this
7:23:41and so finally we
7:23:43became uh and I I have another saying
7:23:46that's in my book the name and claim a
7:23:49game it's a book because I I uh had this
7:23:53offbeat sense of
7:23:55humor and so uh now they want to go to
7:23:59Disneyland so we go to Disneyland win it
7:24:02we never never uh paid for a trip after
7:24:06I started seriously entering contest wow
7:24:09so how many contests how many contests
7:24:11do you figure you've you've won over the
7:24:13years everything I've ever wanted but
7:24:17now my son wants to go to uh a dude
7:24:21ranch and he wanted to a Dude Ranch now
7:24:26he wants to go to Europe on three trips
7:24:28to Europe because I wanted to be at
7:24:31France on my 40 40th birthday sitting at
7:24:35a sidewalk C Cafe drinking wine with my
7:24:39husband and I won this trip and on my
7:24:4240th birthday we're sitting at that
7:24:44Sidewalk Cafe drinking wine on my
7:24:48birthday because I visualized it I knew
7:24:52I'd get it I mean you know ex just
7:24:55projected and selected first that was it
7:24:58you said you've won Helen you said
7:25:00you've won three trips to Europe more
7:25:03than that more than that I don't I quit
7:25:06amazing and and what about I I'd love to
7:25:09know about the house how did you win
7:25:10that
7:25:12house I came back from one of my trips I
7:25:16I went to New York I one trips to New
7:25:19York I love New York and I came back and
7:25:23uh there was a group in Dallas that we'd
7:25:26meet once a month and we would share uh
7:25:30entry blanks we would encourage
7:25:32everybody we would uh sometime write
7:25:35together because there were so many
7:25:38opportunities you know everybody was
7:25:40plugging plugging their merchandise and
7:25:43so they had
7:25:44contests and uh when I came back and
7:25:48this is very very very very interesting
7:25:51one of the girls we had just won this
7:25:53trip to New York to the World's Fair and
7:25:57coming back she said while you were at
7:25:59the World's Fair did you see that house
7:26:03that verica is going to give it's a
7:26:07$50,000 house now that was in the 70s
7:26:11and uh uh did you R just register for
7:26:15that and I said no I was so busy with
7:26:18other areas I didn't even know it notic
7:26:21it she said well there is a builder over
7:26:25here in the uh one of way it was about
7:26:3130 miles from where I lived there was a
7:26:34builder on the other side of
7:26:36Dallas and she said well you can go to
7:26:39that house and register you have to
7:26:41register there and uh look at the verica
7:26:45house that's what they're plugging just
7:26:47from the new mold that they had and so
7:26:51forth so okay uh the next day I I I
7:26:56talked to my husband I said okay I said
7:26:59I think we're going to win a I think we
7:27:01need a new house and U I'm going to go
7:27:05go go over to G and register for this
7:27:09house well the next morning I get up and
7:27:12it's raining and that two of my friends
7:27:15lived in Irving where I lived at the
7:27:17time I called one I said them let's go
7:27:21over I said them and register for this
7:27:24house and she said oh no she said the
7:27:27winter probably already there and she
7:27:29said I'm going to have my rugs today no
7:27:32I'm not going and then I called another
7:27:35friend and she was busy with something
7:27:38else and do you know I sat there at my
7:27:42house and it seemed like somebody was
7:27:46pushing me out the door so I did in my
7:27:49car car driv 55 miles in the
7:27:55rain to go and enter this contest and
7:28:00I'm sitting there at the house this is a
7:28:02famica house all furnished and
7:28:05everything and I am
7:28:07designing the interior the way I want it
7:28:11I register my name and I register my
7:28:13husband's name and I take an I bring
7:28:17home an entry blank and I I look at the
7:28:20blank and it said you must have visited
7:28:23the home and then I I got I pushed the
7:28:27panic button because my husband had not
7:28:29seen the the house and I thought oh my
7:28:33God if they call and they asked for him
7:28:36and they say May you ask did you see the
7:28:39house and what was the thing that
7:28:41impressed you and then we'd be qualified
7:28:44because you didn't see the house do you
7:28:47know that on
7:28:50Saturday after I had been there I made
7:28:54my husband get in the car drive the 55
7:28:59miles so he could I said when they call
7:29:02us you'll have to say you did see the
7:29:05house so let's familiarize yourself with
7:29:08the place this is actually what I I was
7:29:11I I don't know I do these things I have
7:29:14hunches intuitions whatever it is and he
7:29:17registered so now
7:29:20we never know this is a this contest had
7:29:23been going on for a year and they had it
7:29:25in the World's Fair is where they
7:29:27sponsored it and then all around the
7:29:30country uh Builders were building a
7:29:33speck house and using these verica
7:29:37products and so now it's been five weeks
7:29:43never heard a thing but what I'm doing I
7:29:47went out and found I I I went out and
7:29:51found the lot that I wanted to put the
7:29:53house on I had my husband draw up the
7:29:57plans for the house and I said so when
7:30:00they let us know uh we'll be ready you
7:30:03know and so he
7:30:06uh uh one night I'm at my um WR writers
7:30:11group there in Dallas the group that I
7:30:14met once a month and I get this phone
7:30:17call and he says you're not going to
7:30:18believe this
7:30:20he said but somebody just called and
7:30:22asked for you and the only question they
7:30:26ask is did you go and see that from
7:30:29house in uh darland and I said oh my God
7:30:34because second prize was a a a car and
7:30:38the third prize was another smaller car
7:30:41so you never know what you're going to
7:30:42win right and so what was so funny
7:30:46because now I said now I know we won I
7:30:50wonder what's going to take why it's
7:30:52taking them so long to let us know we
7:30:55won so now one uh
7:30:59morning uh my husband gets up and goes
7:31:01to work and I said no stay home today
7:31:04today they're going to come and let us
7:31:06know we won he says are you sure I said
7:31:09yeah yeah trust me so he piles up in bed
7:31:14I go to the bakery and get things and
7:31:16put the coffee pot on and we're waiting
7:31:19and it's 2:00 and 3:00 he said well
7:31:22maybe you just um had a desire and a
7:31:25knowing instead of knowing I said no I
7:31:27know this the phone rang and uh it was
7:31:31the president of for and said uh uh when
7:31:37would your husband be home from work or
7:31:39coming out to tell you um something very
7:31:43important you know just like I didn't
7:31:45know and so I said well he taking off
7:31:50the day and he's home now and he said
7:31:52well we'll be out well then about that
7:31:54time my two boys came in the door uh for
7:31:59school U and I said now listen these
7:32:02people are coming and tell us telling us
7:32:04we want our home God for God's sake act
7:32:08surprised they
7:32:11expected and so they know we had to act
7:32:16surprised you know oh my God no no no
7:32:18you know you know because that's they
7:32:20didn't have the inkling that we already
7:32:23knew this uh there were many things and
7:32:26you want to know something I attribute
7:32:29that knowing feeling because um as I
7:32:33taught selfawareness
7:32:35classes I was always sharing and I would
7:32:38say when we want something we have a
7:32:43desire and
7:32:45a desire is a few being antsy and
7:32:50exaggerated and so forth but when you
7:32:53know for certain that it's already one
7:32:58then there's a calm collected feeling
7:33:02because you know it's already done
7:33:04there's not and I never never never am
7:33:08wrong when I have this calm knowing
7:33:12feeling and a number of my students have
7:33:15um now when they experiment with uh
7:33:18wanting something and I said you still
7:33:21have a desire here because there I know
7:33:24I'm going to win I'm know I'm going to
7:33:25win it and I said it's still a desire
7:33:29feeling it's a knowing feeling when you
7:33:33when somebody call and says hi Helena
7:33:36today I'm going to
7:33:39win postman's not here yet but I'm going
7:33:42to win that uh television that I wanted
7:33:46and then I say okay you already have it
7:33:49and then she wins a
7:33:51television so so another thing is when
7:33:54you get serious on
7:33:57projecting uh you get to where you're um
7:34:00knowing yourself know thyself is what
7:34:02it's all about and then you know your
7:34:05feelings you're comfortable with your
7:34:07feelings uh you're comfortable when you
7:34:09look at a person are they mad sad glad
7:34:12or bad and then you act from that
7:34:16perspective that's awareness and you're
7:34:18talk this in the in the silver method
7:34:22you are taught to become aware and just
7:34:26getting to Alpha just by putting your
7:34:29two fingers together and then you're in
7:34:31tune with wherever you're at and it's
7:34:35just it's just so so so exciting after
7:34:40you take a class and you you you apply
7:34:43the principles you know just wait to get
7:34:46a a parking place or do it for healing
7:34:50do it in all areas of your life that's
7:34:53when you have a a daring Adventure
7:34:56that's when it gets
7:35:05exciting hi everyone this is vishion
7:35:07Lani and I have a very very special
7:35:10person on the phone with me right now
7:35:12her name is Helen hadel and she's the
7:35:16author of the book contesting now I got
7:35:18a I tell you about Helen um she has done
7:35:22something which most people would say is
7:35:24impossible basically Helen has this
7:35:28weird ability to win every contest she
7:35:32participates in she's she's an amazing
7:35:35woman Joe vital one of the teachers of
7:35:37the secret wrote an article in his blog
7:35:40saying this is a lady who should have
7:35:42been in the secret and in this interview
7:35:44Helen's going to share the story of her
7:35:46life she's going to talk about some of
7:35:48the Masters that she had um the the good
7:35:51chance of knowing and studying from
7:35:53Masters such as Jose Silva and she's
7:35:55going to talk a little bit about her
7:35:57story about how she developed this I
7:36:01don't know if you can call it a theory
7:36:02or an art of contesting but she's going
7:36:05to talk about how she is able to
7:36:08influence reality or or call it
7:36:10manufacturing luck when it comes to her
7:36:13life and she's also going to share a
7:36:16remarkable story of how she ended up WR
7:36:18writing a book that sold 3 million
7:36:21copies so Helena you worked with Jose
7:36:25Silva as his PR manager for around 3
7:36:28years I'd love to know about um
7:36:31experiences you had with the Silva
7:36:34method could you share a few uh uh
7:36:36interesting
7:36:38stories uh yes uhhuh um when uh when we
7:36:42first started meeting uh I opened areas
7:36:46here in the Dallas area and then in the
7:36:48for Worth area and one of the things was
7:36:52and this is before uh I start traveling
7:36:56uh on the uh on the uh airplane I was
7:37:00afraid of an airplane and I still had
7:37:03not mastered that so as he became
7:37:07popular and I would um uh always I'd
7:37:11call radio stations because they knew me
7:37:13because I had sort of build up a
7:37:15reputation as a winner and so I
7:37:19evidently uh had some clout and I would
7:37:23ask him to come and uh interview uh
7:37:27interview Jose because this was foreign
7:37:30to me and a lot of the people thought it
7:37:32was the work of the devil when he first
7:37:34started out which is stupid but they
7:37:37didn't know any better and so he was
7:37:40very very very a very proud man and I
7:37:44had great admiration for him and so I'm
7:37:47always saying you come to one of his
7:37:50lectures and then you be the judge and
7:37:53usually one they came and he was so so
7:37:57effective and so
7:37:59intelligent and proud and he just his
7:38:03appearance was was absolutely
7:38:06Flawless and I was proud to work with
7:38:09him all right there came a time when I
7:38:12opened Dallas and then I opened Fort
7:38:14Worth and one night he came to me and
7:38:17said uh they tell us and he always said
7:38:21they tell us which was in meditation he
7:38:24would get a message and I always said it
7:38:28came from that other dimension because
7:38:30he would say they tell us that we're to
7:38:33open uh the Chicago
7:38:35area and uh being his P I been about
7:38:39eight months now I'm in his PR and I
7:38:42said well I'll tell you what Jose I
7:38:45don't need this job uh get yourself
7:38:48another girl because I'm not going to
7:38:51fly and he always said we'll talk about
7:38:55it and that night I came uh he I came
7:39:00and my husband was he's always been
7:39:02supportive of me and I said you want to
7:39:05know something Jose thinks I'm going to
7:39:07go to Chicago there's no way I'm going
7:39:09to go to Chicago you know I don't like
7:39:11to fly and my husband looked at me and
7:39:15he said how long have you had had a long
7:39:18Sil method and training and I said uh 7
7:39:22months he said well why don't you
7:39:24practice what you preach and I got I was
7:39:26Furious because I expected him toide
7:39:29with me the next morning I sat down went
7:39:32to my level and I said please somebody
7:39:37someplace has got to help me I don't
7:39:39want to go to Chicago and Jose expect me
7:39:43to I don't want to go to
7:39:44Chicago uh the telephone rang and it was
7:39:48a woman that said uh Mrs hadsel I am
7:39:52Mary green and I live in Chicago I just
7:39:56read an article about you um in one of
7:40:00the magazines how you enter contests and
7:40:03win and you mentioned uh Jose Silva the
7:40:08Silva method of training and she said
7:40:11I'm not interested in entering contests
7:40:14I just want to know about this training
7:40:17that Jose Sila does and I said Mary I'm
7:40:21supposed to come to Chicago and first of
7:40:24all find a suitable meeting place put
7:40:27ads in the paper and um just get ready
7:40:31to for so Jose or Harry mcnight can come
7:40:35up and start the first class and she
7:40:38said oh honey you don't have to come she
7:40:41said I work for a PR firm uh a shoe
7:40:45manufacturing she said I'll get you a
7:40:48hotel and I'll get you a real nice room
7:40:52and at Cost I mean there's nothing I'll
7:40:55even I'll even get you a free room to
7:40:57sleep in I'm I'll go and put all the ads
7:41:01in the paper for you what else you want
7:41:03me to
7:41:04do I'm sitting back I can't believe it
7:41:08and I said well let me send you some
7:41:10money so you oh no no she said don't
7:41:12worry with this if you're going to come
7:41:15and teach Sila training she said I also
7:41:20belong to the um Church of religious
7:41:23science I'll have the audience the the
7:41:26room full for
7:41:27you wow I I was just
7:41:30dumbfounded see this is higher
7:41:32intelligence it's the only way I can
7:41:34explain it and then uh two days later
7:41:38Jose calls me and uh he said well I said
7:41:43well we're going to uh we're going to go
7:41:46we're going to get Harry ready to go
7:41:48to to Chicago to open the area and and
7:41:54in the meantime my husband is sitting
7:41:58there and he said I said well look how
7:42:00it worked he said all right he says for
7:42:02the next four days he said or 3 four
7:42:04days you sit there and get your get to
7:42:07your Alpha level and get that stupid
7:42:09notion that you're afraid to fly out of
7:42:13your head and that's how I
7:42:15overcame uh my fear of flying
7:42:19and we opened the area and it was very
7:42:23very very successful that's beautiful
7:42:26and she took over uh the program Etc
7:42:30everything is fine I'm still a little uh
7:42:35I'd i' not that afraid of flying anymore
7:42:37but I'd rather not fly is the way I
7:42:39looked at it it was about three months
7:42:42later uh he again is in a class locally
7:42:47and at that time time uh he was very
7:42:50very um generous any Catholic priest or
7:42:54none came uh the class was free to them
7:42:58he just said I just want them to uh
7:43:02share uh my experience so there was no
7:43:04charge for him now we're sitting there
7:43:07and we're getting he tells me that
7:43:09afternoon when he gets in I think you're
7:43:12going to open Detroit now and I says
7:43:15there's rioting in the streets there's
7:43:17pug you don't want to go there he says
7:43:19they tell me that I'm to open Detroit
7:43:23and so that means I'm to go to Detroit
7:43:27and find a suitable meeting place and
7:43:29put ads in the paper which Mary did for
7:43:32me you know okay that night I'm
7:43:37registering people before his class and
7:43:41a priest walks up and uh the one the
7:43:45students that already taken the class
7:43:47brings them in to hear the introductory
7:43:50lecture and she said Mrs hadsel she said
7:43:53uh uh my cousin is here and uh can he
7:43:58take the class for free like Jose he
7:44:00said oh yes yes and I said where are you
7:44:04from and he said
7:44:06Detroit I said oh my God I said we're g
7:44:10to we're going to go to we're supposed
7:44:11to go to Detroit and open the class and
7:44:14find a suitable meeting place and he
7:44:17said oh miss is hadel you don't have to
7:44:20come I'll take over I'll find a meeting
7:44:24place I I will put the ads in the paper
7:44:28I'll have a full house for
7:44:30you and that's the way it went when I'm
7:44:34working with when I work with Jose it
7:44:38seemed like higher
7:44:40intelligent was furiously just
7:44:44constantly doing things that's the only
7:44:47way I can expl it that's beautiful so it
7:44:49seems that that you were not just
7:44:52manifesting contest wins you were
7:44:54manifesting the right people in your
7:44:56life at the right time to help you move
7:44:58towards um your goals yes uhhuh yes and
7:45:02so we opened the Detroit area and then
7:45:05another uh instructor came in there and
7:45:10that's what I was doing that's Wonder
7:45:12Helen I I have a question for you what
7:45:15you're doing do you think this is
7:45:17something that can be trained because
7:45:19obviously I mean you you it sounds like
7:45:21you were gifted from the time you were a
7:45:23little girl how much of this do you
7:45:25attribute as a gift versus something
7:45:28that one could be trained to
7:45:31do I I feel we all have this
7:45:36capability but in our society we're so
7:45:39busy and with television and the U
7:45:43making money Etc these goals that are
7:45:48really and truly I'm not interested in
7:45:50money or any television shows or
7:45:53anything I'm more interested in other
7:45:57dimensions what's going on there our
7:45:59finite mind can't comprehend that there
7:46:03are other galaxies that there other
7:46:06universes and uh many many are having an
7:46:10experience coming to me and uh are
7:46:14reluctant uh to tell anybody else
7:46:17because it's too far off the wall and we
7:46:20s i evaluate it and say okay now that's
7:46:23a thought form but this is for real this
7:46:27is for real and so we um are able to
7:46:32make people feel at ease because more
7:46:35and more of this is happening and uh I
7:46:38like to work with children and I like to
7:46:41create a thought form and I like to see
7:46:44if they're able to see that thought form
7:46:47and how long they can see it because now
7:46:50I'm trying to develop this so to become
7:46:54more proficient to become self-reliant
7:46:58self-confident and knowing what's going
7:47:00on at all times uh nobody can pull uh
7:47:04this is a coin word p the pulled a bull
7:47:07over my eyes it's
7:47:10impossible and nor can anyone take
7:47:12advantage of me because I won't allow it
7:47:16and I think when we are very serious of
7:47:19becoming aware of
7:47:21self self Know Thy s that's what it's
7:47:24all about and that's the reason when I
7:47:27came into
7:47:29Peru and incidentally I didn't want to
7:47:32go to Peru but uh again I had an
7:47:36assignment again a being appeared to me
7:47:40and said I had to be inove on November
7:47:43the 11th and I
7:47:45said I said I don't know anybody in Peru
7:47:50and two days later it was a day later
7:47:53when this young man that had seen me on
7:47:56one I was one of the key speakers at the
7:47:59convention in
7:48:00Laredo and uh had remember two years
7:48:03later he called and said you have to be
7:48:06improved by November the 11th and
7:48:09November the 11th is what this being
7:48:12that appeared to me from this other
7:48:13dimension said so this was confirmation
7:48:18and I went to pu and I was over there
7:48:19two and a half months now I've written
7:48:22this uh you need to read my
7:48:25book uh confessions of an 83 year-old
7:48:29Sage uh I have all these stories in
7:48:32there and U they're they're my personal
7:48:37experiences and I go in great detail all
7:48:41these things other curiosity um cause
7:48:45because I'm I'm So Into the story now
7:48:46and you're leaving me hanging why why
7:48:48did you have to be in Peru on that
7:48:50particular date what because I saved the
7:48:52boy's life Wow the entrepreneur very
7:48:57very wealthy entrepreneur came to take
7:48:59mind control wanted to be an instructor
7:49:03now he goes back and uh and um he see
7:49:07there's a man in Peru that claims that
7:49:11um he was uh in a in a boat and he
7:49:16landed on shore
7:49:18and there was a a a cave there and he
7:49:21says as he goes to this cave it seems
7:49:25like people are pulling him back he sees
7:49:28people and they're pulling him pushing
7:49:30him back and he knew that there was gold
7:49:33in this cave and he and so he tells this
7:49:38to my friend uh and uh my friend calls
7:49:43me and he says well he knows me and he
7:49:45knows that I can see in this other
7:49:47dimension
7:49:48and he'll get me to come to Peru and
7:49:50we'll go out on this excursion and we'll
7:49:54tell these people that are in this cave
7:49:57that any money that they find there
7:50:00they're going to give to the poor which
7:50:03was a bunch
7:50:05bu because I I when uh when he he
7:50:10doesn't tell me this on the phone
7:50:12because he said you just have to come
7:50:15and the reason I came was because he
7:50:17said November the 11th and that's the
7:50:19date that I've gotten from this man that
7:50:22appeared and number two I never do any
7:50:25I'm never fool hearty I look for three
7:50:28signs and I'm always cautioning when you
7:50:32have somebody that comes to you in
7:50:35another dimension don't you dare don't
7:50:38you dare move until you have three more
7:50:41signs and the first sign was here this
7:50:45man appears tells me I'm to go to Peru
7:50:50I'm waiting for another sign because I
7:50:54already made plans to be in Sedonia uh
7:50:58for a month stay and I had it all
7:51:02figured out because a woman is going to
7:51:04loan me her house to be there well it
7:51:08see that in the morning mail I get a
7:51:11letter from her and the house is not
7:51:14available and I'm thinking um now I'm
7:51:18frustrated because I really wanted to be
7:51:20there so that would be my second sign
7:51:23and the sign would be you're not to go
7:51:25to Peru I mean you're not to uh be in
7:51:29Sedona all right now I'm waiting for the
7:51:32third sign the third sign is that night
7:51:36when the phone call comes from this
7:51:40Peter this wealthy
7:51:42entrepreneur and says you have to be
7:51:44improved I will pay all your expenses I
7:51:47will send you to matp Pichi what else do
7:51:50you want he was just begging me and
7:51:54imploring me and when I said okay I have
7:51:57my passports in order I'm going to uh
7:52:01find about flights and stuff call me
7:52:04tomorrow night and we'll set all this up
7:52:07uh there is someone there that's saying
7:52:10you have to go you have to go all right
7:52:14so I go there I'm there on the 11th and
7:52:17that night we are to meet with this man
7:52:22that's going to set up this excursion to
7:52:25go to this island and to get in that
7:52:29cave because there is gold there and you
7:52:32know from history that the Spaniards
7:52:35would come over there and uh all the
7:52:38gold that they had there they would melt
7:52:40and put in bars and taking ships and
7:52:43take it back to Spain and uh the water
7:52:46was turbulent and evidently a ship went
7:52:49a Merk there because the man actually
7:52:53had wood from a ship that they found in
7:52:57the sand there and uh one of the um that
7:53:01night when I got into Peru and I'm to
7:53:05meet this man there was curfew there but
7:53:07he's coming
7:53:08early the minute I saw him I knew I mean
7:53:13this was
7:53:15a do you do you do transpiration
7:53:19Transfiguration when you see somebody
7:53:21and their facial features uh turn uh
7:53:25completely different and you're looking
7:53:27you think your eyes are pulling tricks
7:53:29on you it's called
7:53:32Transfiguration and it's u a part of you
7:53:37that has played a role or has been in
7:53:38the physical body before and now it's
7:53:42coming through well I saw this and this
7:53:46is so phenomenal because it's it's all
7:53:49written in my book really because I'm
7:53:52just quoting for my book and uh while we
7:53:55were sitting there I knew I knew that
7:53:59this uh should not happen I knew that
7:54:03the government anytime there was
7:54:05anything found of value the government
7:54:08automatically took over government in
7:54:10Peru is very corrupt at that time mhm
7:54:13and I knew this beautiful friend of mine
7:54:16this entrepreneur uh he would actually
7:54:21be in life would be in Jeopardy if he
7:54:23even ventured out there MH and now I had
7:54:27to convince this man that wants to take
7:54:31us on this Safari that it would he
7:54:34should abort it and how could I do this
7:54:37I mean I'm here and all I can say is all
7:54:42right now listen I he I know that in
7:54:46other there's seven or eight people
7:54:48going with you one of these people in
7:54:52that group has already has been drinking
7:54:55and has already
7:54:57boasted that he's coming into some money
7:55:00and he told and somebody overheard it
7:55:04now your government knows this and you
7:55:06are now under
7:55:08surveillance and this man became very
7:55:10angry at me and he said how do you know
7:55:13this and I said all right you want
7:55:16confirmation I said why don't you call
7:55:19one of your friends and have them come
7:55:22over and park about about a block from
7:55:26where pet is living you get in your car
7:55:29and you drive around and uh let your
7:55:33friend uh drive around and I venture to
7:55:37say that you are under
7:55:41surveillance and I said and when you get
7:55:43home call us and I said you're going to
7:55:46abort this completely because I don't
7:55:48want anything to do with it and I
7:55:50certainly don't want Peter to be his
7:55:53life in jeopardy he went home about 40
7:55:56minutes later he said she's right I am
7:56:00being followed and so it aborted that
7:56:03trip so why did I go to Peru uh really
7:56:07to save Peter from do doing some stupid
7:56:10things but how did you know the Peruvian
7:56:12government was actually monitoring this
7:56:14was it a hunch uh something uh the now
7:56:19the man that appeared that morning was
7:56:22when I got there appeared behind Peter
7:56:25so this was Peter's guide that came to
7:56:28me and asked me to come now I said when
7:56:32I when this happens I say why didn't you
7:56:36pick somebody else uh there I mean to
7:56:39drive drive all this way I mean come all
7:56:41this way from from Texas to go to Peru I
7:56:46says wasn't there any body in Peru that
7:56:48could have done the same thing MH and
7:56:51they say yes if you had not uh not ad
7:56:57can't come uh we would have gotten
7:56:59somebody else but we wanted you because
7:57:02he is he admires you tremendously and
7:57:06there's other work you need to do here
7:57:08wow and I had planned on staying 10 days
7:57:11I told my husband I was there 2 and 1/2
7:57:14months uh while I was there
7:57:17I uh read the tarot cards which uh you
7:57:21know they're not really they're tarot
7:57:23cards but anyway I read people as they
7:57:26came I had the embassy members light up
7:57:30here to come and have readings from me
7:57:35and the things I discovered about the
7:57:37government over there and be being
7:57:40corrupt I was invited to the president's
7:57:44sister's house as her house guest
7:57:47and uh when the co the limousine picked
7:57:50me up uh to go there and the president
7:57:54uh it's Aid was there he said and what
7:57:56do you think of our government and I
7:57:59smiled and I said you know when I'm in a
7:58:01foreign com company a foreign country
7:58:05there are two topics I never engage in
7:58:08and that's uh religion and po politics
7:58:13and he just smiled and he said you are a
7:58:16smart
7:58:18woman so while I was there I had I could
7:58:24see through walls when I was there it
7:58:28was the most phenomenal two and a half
7:58:31months my husband kept calling me when
7:58:33are you coming back I said I don't know
7:58:36I said to today I'm meeting with uh this
7:58:40this Embassy member and he doesn't know
7:58:43that his son is trafficking drugs and I
7:58:46said I'm going to have to be diplomatic
7:58:48and tell them what's going on he said
7:58:51well over there just as long as you feel
7:58:53safe and I said yeah I'm safe I had so
7:58:57much Guidance with me I I wasn't uh
7:59:00fearful at all there was there was um
7:59:04and the nice thing about this was I'm
7:59:07there two months and Jose came to Peru
7:59:11to teach his uh his work and when Jose
7:59:15came he said you know I knew you were
7:59:19coming uh you knew he said I knew you
7:59:22had this assignment long long time ago
7:59:26and he said but I'm so glad that we got
7:59:28together here so we had lunch and I um
7:59:32was with him the night that uh he uh
7:59:35congratulated all the students that uh
7:59:38finished his class and just had a real
7:59:40real fun time so this this was just just
7:59:44a real another life is a daring
7:59:47Adventure or nothing episode beautiful
7:59:50story Helen I have one I have
7:59:53one one final question for you sorry
7:59:57John I'm just going to repeat that
7:59:58because I studed a bit uh Helen I have
8:00:02one more question for you cuz I know
8:00:04members in the audience are probably
8:00:06wondering this you mentioned about your
8:00:09spec system uh Could you um could you
8:00:13repeat once more what every letter of
8:00:15that stands for S SP EC okay spec SP p c
8:00:20s is
8:00:23selected selected s e l e c t
8:00:27selected projected that's the P mhm
8:00:31expected that's the E collected it's the
8:00:36C now so if there's uh what what I
8:00:39wanted what I wanted to say Helen was
8:00:42from conversations I've had with with
8:00:45members of uh uh the audience people are
8:00:46know who's listening in I know the big
8:00:49problem many people have is with the E
8:00:52with expectancy they know what they want
8:00:54they know how to practice creative
8:00:56visualization or a silver technique to
8:00:59project it they know how to collect it
8:01:02and how to celebrate that success but
8:01:04what holds them back is they feel a
8:01:07feeling of unworthiness or they find it
8:01:09hard to expect it to come into their
8:01:11lives what would be your advice for
8:01:14them I I never excuse me I never told
8:01:17anybody when I entered something because
8:01:21uh there are people that are envious
8:01:23jealous and so I had the term of I'll
8:01:27bag it and then I'll brag it okay uh you
8:01:31I have the mind works it's a very subtle
8:01:34way of doing it for instance uh you're
8:01:36going to boast hey I enter that contest
8:01:39and I feel lucky I'm going to win it and
8:01:41she in turn uh thinks about it and
8:01:45thinks uh unless she positive and really
8:01:48really a good friend she'll go home uh
8:01:51that night and she'll tell her husband
8:01:54she thinks she's going to win well
8:01:55contests are rigged and he's going to
8:01:58belittle it okay now she can pick up
8:02:04telepathically when somebody thinks
8:02:06about you you pick up telepathically
8:02:10from them if it's positive I I accept it
8:02:14if it's negative I reject it I just say
8:02:17cancel Cancel I don't need it and I
8:02:20think of something else when there is
8:02:23some uh somebody would call and say I
8:02:26had a feeling this morning that uh you
8:02:29weren't feeling well and I says that's
8:02:31not me I said perhaps you're thinking of
8:02:34somebody else because I feel great uh I
8:02:38do not let people um entertain negative
8:02:43thinking around me and that's one thing
8:02:46I mean because we pick up so we're not
8:02:50even you're not even aware of it the
8:02:52ordinary person is not aware of how
8:02:55thoughts come to them where they come
8:02:58and when when you're thinking of a
8:03:00person know that they're thinking of you
8:03:03it's just that simple and if you have
8:03:06doubts call them I was just thinking
8:03:08about you were you thinking about me and
8:03:11you know we we know that this happens
8:03:13the phone call rings and you say well I
8:03:15was just thinking about you well there's
8:03:17two minds that are meeting and it goes
8:03:20on all the
8:03:21time so be very very careful uh if
8:03:25you're starting something I W tell
8:03:27anybody don't tell anybody until it
8:03:31manifests and the day that it's to come
8:03:35uh there is a feeling of
8:03:37knowing otherwise it's just a calm
8:03:41relaxed feeling you know it's already
8:03:43done and there's nothing else you can do
8:03:45about it it's done it's yours and then
8:03:50you move on to something
8:03:52else and uh you call it effective
8:03:56effective sensory perception I call it
8:04:00ESP it's not a uh U extra sensory
8:04:04perception we all have it it's effective
8:04:08sensory perception effective sensory
8:04:13projection and you can project as I did
8:04:16with Jose as I do with my son and uh my
8:04:20son picked up verbatim Jose picked up
8:04:23verbatim and you cultivate this Jose
8:04:27would say some people are good fenders
8:04:30and some people are good receivers but
8:04:33they can be both if they're really
8:04:35seriously considering it well he was a
8:04:40fantastic receiver with me and so that
8:04:44was I mean you know we at that time
8:04:46remember this was in the early uh'
8:04:5070s all of these U telephones and uh
8:04:55computers and things where we could
8:04:57communicate with each other so we just
8:05:00relied on this method and it worked it
8:05:02was
8:05:04successful thank you H so anything you
8:05:06want you can have provided you provided
8:05:10you know what it is and stay with it uh
8:05:14I say there are never never never any
8:05:17failures no failures only a delay in
8:05:22results and you back that delay in
8:05:26results by being negative by telling
8:05:29somebody else your goal and they in turn
8:05:32saying what makes her think she's going
8:05:34to win it and there they did negative
8:05:39and then you start doubting because it
8:05:41comes into your mind comes what it comes
8:05:44into your mind was uh I I don't know if
8:05:46I'm going to win this or not that's not
8:05:48your thought it's somebody else's
8:05:50thought that's projecting to you and
8:05:53making it up and you think it's yours
8:05:55it's not and if it is negative then just
8:05:59I'm not going to handle that I'm not
8:06:01going to entertain that and you can
8:06:04change your mind and think of something
8:06:06else wow I mean just wow I I love what
8:06:10you just said about rephrasing it as a
8:06:13delay in results it's never a question
8:06:15of whether you're going to get it or not
8:06:16it's simply when and the negative
8:06:19thoughts simply delay the outcome uhhuh
8:06:22delaying results and this is a term I
8:06:25used I mean uh quite quite frequently
8:06:28with people uh they say well I worked so
8:06:31hard and I entered all these now and
8:06:33then I honey you're just having a delay
8:06:35in results stay with it yes and then a
8:06:38month or two later it came I mean see
8:06:42you're when you're dealing with people
8:06:45in contesting
8:06:46uh the energy is tremendous tremendous
8:06:50uh in in my book I talk about going to
8:06:53um a television show in uh California
8:06:57and I'm sitting there and uh they were
8:07:00um giving
8:07:02prizes uh at random to the audience and
8:07:06uh first of all there's a color
8:07:07television that they're going to give to
8:07:09the audience and I'm sitting there and
8:07:11I'm thinking my mother wanted a color
8:07:14television I think I want that
8:07:17television and uh they uh there's a mass
8:07:20audience there and they project to me
8:07:24and I win this television oh well during
8:07:27the break I met two women who were
8:07:29sitting beside me and this woman uh said
8:07:33I've never won anything in my life and I
8:07:36said what what do you want and she said
8:07:39well I need a new refrigerator and we
8:07:41had a break during that um particular um
8:07:45I it was a talk it was a giveaway show I
8:07:49don't remember the details but it's in
8:07:51my book so anyway uh we're um sitting
8:07:55out there and I said okay uh why don't
8:07:58you see it as already hav warn it and
8:08:01I'll work with you with this and you can
8:08:04get your tow you can get your
8:08:06refrigerator she looked at me like she
8:08:08thought I was a nut and we got back in
8:08:12there and I just see the see the
8:08:16refrigerator see the refrigerator come
8:08:18on come on see it and we're we didn't
8:08:21get to sit together because there were
8:08:23so many many people and I'm sitting
8:08:25there in the middle and she's sitting up
8:08:27there on the top of the place and do you
8:08:31know that this man walks up and points
8:08:35to her and says you're going to win the
8:08:37refrigerator you won the
8:08:40refrigerator and she said and afterwards
8:08:43how'd you do it and I said well you
8:08:45wanted to did you see there's all these
8:08:48people there uh they were wanting to win
8:08:51things and it's uh but they like she
8:08:55said she doubted it so you don't doubt
8:08:58it you just go go with the flow and that
8:09:01was another thing I got on Art linkler
8:09:04letter that way I wanted to meet art
8:09:07link letter very popular popular at that
8:09:10time had a talk show and I went there
8:09:14specifically and uh uh when I got to his
8:09:18place the gate was closed and they said
8:09:21they weren't allowing any more people in
8:09:23there because the theater was full and
8:09:26they gave us tickets to go to another
8:09:28show I stood there and the doors closed
8:09:33all of a sudden everybody's gone to this
8:09:35other show there's taping over there in
8:09:38Hollywood all the time all of a sudden
8:09:41the door opens and a page comes out and
8:09:44he said uh there's no room in here I
8:09:46told you that I said no no I came to see
8:09:49art ly L he said just a minute he came
8:09:53back and he said uh there's uh one seat
8:09:57left uh you can have the seat he said
8:10:01evidently somebody didn't come uh for it
8:10:03and there's a seat up there so he takes
8:10:06me into this
8:10:07studio and uh I'm up uh they have stairs
8:10:11going up and then there's a platform and
8:10:14more stairs going up all right now I'm
8:10:17sitting there about I'd say about seven
8:10:20rows from the bottom
8:10:24platform art ler art link letter comes
8:10:27out and welcomes everybody and so forth
8:10:32and it's supposed to be for a Christmas
8:10:34show he's welcoming everybody and all of
8:10:37a sudden he says today one of the a one
8:10:40of the members of the audience is going
8:10:42to win a very very special prize
8:10:46and looks over the audience walks up and
8:10:51I'm third in the row I mean I'm not on
8:10:54the aisle at all I'm third in in the
8:10:57aisle and he points to me and he says
8:11:02you are going to win a very special
8:11:05prize digs my hand takes me down and I'm
8:11:09on the
8:11:11show what I won was a $1,500 Lucha wrist
8:11:15wash oh wow and when now this is this is
8:11:19very
8:11:20interesting the night before I wanted to
8:11:25meet art link letter I sat in my chair
8:11:28and used the Sila method of going to
8:11:32level picturing art link letter and
8:11:35saying to Art when you see me you'll
8:11:40recognize me when you see me you'll
8:11:44recognize me that that's all I said and
8:11:47that morning I know that he's going to
8:11:50recognize I know it and when he came up
8:11:54now this is so interesting because now I
8:11:58get this Lucha wristwatch he keeps
8:12:00saying don't I know you don't I know
8:12:05you he probably had a dream and uh after
8:12:10the show he's talking you know when
8:12:12credits are on and we're standing there
8:12:14he said you know something I know you
8:12:17and I laughed and I said well I probably
8:12:20remind you of something I did not have
8:12:24the heart to tell them that I was using
8:12:27this
8:12:28projection and it worked it works you
8:12:31know on uh many many many
8:12:34many different well I could talk forever
8:12:38really and truly because there's so many
8:12:41techniques that see what what's what is
8:12:44this all about no yourself know your
8:12:47capabilities know what you your
8:12:49potential know what you can do don't
8:12:52limit yourself For Heaven's Sake life is
8:12:56a daring Adventure Kids make it daring
8:13:00it's daring or it's nothing okay I want
8:13:03to say make every day special share a
8:13:06joke hum a song pass some special Joy
8:13:10along and if someone should come your
8:13:13way who doesn't share your joy today the
8:13:18hell with
8:13:21them thank you I'm serious I'm
8:13:25serious this has I'm serious this has
8:13:28been a an amazing interview I I it was
8:13:32such a delight talking to you and
8:13:33hearing those stories thank you so much
8:13:35for taking the time to be with us today
8:13:38and uh and to share these stories I know
8:13:40it's pretty late where you are right now
8:13:43oh it doesn't matter I'm I'm I'm going I
8:13:46I still have a blueprint to do before I
8:13:48go to bed not and uh and to the audience
8:13:51members listening in um we're going to
8:13:54give you a chance to ask a question to
8:13:57Helen and we will soon be doing a
8:13:59follow-up interview where we will
8:14:01actually be asking your questions to
8:14:03Helen uh now naturally depends on the
8:14:05number of questions that we get we will
8:14:07be at we'll pick the most common
8:14:09questions and you will be invited to
8:14:12come back in and listen to your
8:14:14questions being answer it thank you so
8:14:16much everyone have a good
8:14:32evening hi this is Vision Lani and on
8:14:35the phone I have a remarkable person
8:14:38Helen hadsel I came to know of Helen
8:14:41from a blog post I read by um Joe vital
8:14:44the well-known author
8:14:46Joe on his blog wrote about this
8:14:48remarkable lady he uh met in Texas uh a
8:14:52lady who by some weird ability seems to
8:14:55defy the laws of probability the thing
8:14:57about Helen is she wins every single
8:15:00competition she takes part in she's won
8:15:03multiple trips to Europe she's won cars
8:15:06she wins competitions at the supermarket
8:15:09she wins lucky draws in one situation
8:15:12she won a house at a draw at the world
8:15:15spare out of 2 million other
8:15:18participants um and that's not all Helen
8:15:21also wrote a book which sold some 3
8:15:23million copies through direct response
8:15:25mail it's called contesting and um
8:15:29there's just something remarkable about
8:15:30her because the way she comes across and
8:15:34the the things she's able to draw into
8:15:35her life simply by attracting them um
8:15:40defies everything one would believe
8:15:42about probability taking part in
8:15:44competitions
8:15:46and the laws of the universe and so I'm
8:15:48delighted to bring to you on the phone
8:15:50right now Helen hsel Helen how are you
8:15:52today absolutely
8:15:56fabulous yes yes anything that I can
8:15:59share I'll be very very pleased okay
8:16:02well tell us Helen a little bit about
8:16:04your background and and how you got
8:16:07started um just a little happy Homemaker
8:16:10with three children and I a stay-at-home
8:16:13mom and I picked up the book The Power
8:16:16of Positive Thinking by Norman Vincent
8:16:19Peele and something really really just
8:16:23clicked when I said when I read you can
8:16:26have anything you want provided you know
8:16:30what it is and see yourself as already
8:16:34having it uh those thing those three
8:16:37things really sparked my interest and
8:16:41that night when my husband came in from
8:16:43work I'm sitting there and I'm saying
8:16:46you know something I think I'm going to
8:16:50uh prove this to myself and I'm going to
8:16:53start entering contests to win
8:16:55particular prizes you know we all have
8:16:59uh needs but I want and wants now and uh
8:17:04contesting you know is one area where
8:17:07all these prizes are available for you
8:17:10it's just for promotional purposes so
8:17:13you're not depriving anybody of anything
8:17:16really and putting signing your name
8:17:20writing a a jingle or completing 25
8:17:24words or less that's all uh that's all
8:17:28that's necessary when you're ending a
8:17:30contest and so that um evening he was
8:17:33reading the paper and I said what is it
8:17:36that we should be working for he said
8:17:39well you know something I'd like to have
8:17:41an outboard motor uh my husband liked to
8:17:44go fishing
8:17:45by himself uh the the boys were too
8:17:48young to for them to go with them and it
8:17:52was just to unwind because he was under
8:17:54a very stressful job and uh but he go
8:17:59would go out there on on the boat with
8:18:00the paddle
8:18:02and and
8:18:04so uh he picked when he picked up the
8:18:06paper he said look here he said uh this
8:18:09cocacola is having a contest and all you
8:18:12have to do is write 25 words why you
8:18:15take cocacola on your
8:18:18outings uh yeah I'd like to have that
8:18:20outboard motor so I said well okay now
8:18:25the rule said you had to write these 25
8:18:28words and that evening when the children
8:18:31were in bed and I'm sleeping there and I
8:18:33had this uh vivid imagination where I
8:18:36can temporarily uh get in and make uh
8:18:40feel what somebody's thinking or or
8:18:43pretending I'm likeing you know like
8:18:45like an actor or an actress and so I'm
8:18:48sitting there and I'm pretending like my
8:18:51I'm my husband I'm sitting in that boat
8:18:55and the coke a pack of Cokes why you
8:18:57take Cokes and outings are sitting right
8:19:00there beside me and I wrote this 25
8:19:04words or less I take cocacola on outings
8:19:09because Cokes are my silent Partners
8:19:13they contribute no y Yak only cool
8:19:17enjoyment when called upon I send the
8:19:21entry in that night that next morning
8:19:25and all I could think of is I wonder how
8:19:29long it's going to take them to let us
8:19:31know we won uh now see I you know when
8:19:35you do things like this you doubt uh the
8:19:39majority people doubt uh what makes them
8:19:42think uh that I can win it or negative I
8:19:47mean a family environment uh all of
8:19:50these doubts come up would do you know
8:19:53that the minute you doubt something you
8:19:56are nullifying all the positive energy
8:20:00that you work toward a goal and so
8:20:02you're your worst enemy why in the book
8:20:06it
8:20:07explains that you can be your worst
8:20:09enemy by even entertaining anything
8:20:12negative so I took it right there I call
8:20:15it hook line and thinker and I was not
8:20:18going to be
8:20:20negative I sent it off well it took
8:20:23about 10 days because it was a local
8:20:26contest and uh when the uh Coke
8:20:29representative called us and said we won
8:20:32the outboard motor and then my husband
8:20:35enjoyed it and I said okay what what
8:20:38would we like to win next well this was
8:20:41the first win and you'd say well that
8:20:43was luck I never looked at it as luck I
8:20:47always looked at it okay I'm putting
8:20:50energy into it I know what I want I see
8:20:54myself as having it and that's the
8:20:57reason um when I wrote the book uh the
8:21:00reason I wrote the book really is
8:21:02because I had so many many people
8:21:05calling and requesting and yes I was
8:21:08called a witch and I said no I'm not a
8:21:11witch I'm using
8:21:13wishcraft When the Children came in from
8:21:16school and said uh somebody said that
8:21:19your mother was a witch and so I changed
8:21:22to that that I was using wishcraft
8:21:25wishcraft I love that word yes it's a
8:21:28coined word but it it explains what what
8:21:32is happening here and then I started
8:21:35spec uh because that that made it just
8:21:38sort of um easy to remember you know
8:21:42selected projected expected and then
8:21:47collected and that's what I what I
8:21:50started to do and contined to do and the
8:21:54more I the more enter contest contest I
8:21:58entered the more I won and it was just
8:22:01like a uh focusing on energy on a
8:22:06continuing basis so yes I was very very
8:22:09successful at that time and in fact um
8:22:13one month I won a prize every day and it
8:22:16was a always a nice prize I mean there
8:22:18were um appliances and uh uh I mean I
8:22:23had furniture and my my um what I wanted
8:22:27a floor new flooring put in uh
8:22:31dishwashers you name it and I'll claim
8:22:33it because you these were things that I
8:22:37could um now very comfortably uh project
8:22:41for and then collect that's amazing h
8:22:45and Helen I I I also know that you um it
8:22:48wasn't just the the dozens of household
8:22:51accessories and stuff that you were able
8:22:52to win you won some pretty exciting
8:22:54stuff as well uh one of one of my
8:22:56favorite stories is how you won a trip
8:23:00to Paris or you decided that you were
8:23:02going to be in Paris on a a particular
8:23:05uh day that was meaningful for you could
8:23:06you tell us that story uh yes every year
8:23:10now now we're into contesting it's been
8:23:13one or two years and we always um every
8:23:16year we said where do we want to go on
8:23:18our vacation my husband got a two week
8:23:21vacation so the boys wanted to go to the
8:23:23Dude Ranch we went a trip to the Dude
8:23:26Ranch uh we wanted uh to go to
8:23:29Disneyland uh we went there two on two
8:23:32different occasions uh I wanted to go to
8:23:35the World's Fair we went a trip to the
8:23:37World's Fair and uh one year uh I wanted
8:23:41to um I was going to be 40 years old and
8:23:45I wanted to I'd read about Paris so
8:23:48romantic in Paris and uh it was just uh
8:23:53very enticing so that year I looked and
8:23:57I was going to the first of June I was
8:23:59going to be 40 years old and I only
8:24:02chose contests that were going to award
8:24:06trips to Europe and I continued I only
8:24:11wrote one entry and the entry was uh why
8:24:15do you it says why do you want to go to
8:24:17to lissy France and I says because I'm I
8:24:23am um interested to know if a pooped
8:24:26couple with three kiddos can recapture
8:24:30the Rapture in springtime ecstasy in
8:24:33their fat 40 frustrated years and this
8:24:37was you know it's a picture word you can
8:24:40imagine a middle-aged couple sitting
8:24:42there at a side rock say drinking wine
8:24:46and after being married some 20 years
8:24:51well yeah 20 years uh can we recapture
8:24:54this Rapture and I made it sort of as a
8:24:57joke well I I send this entry in on all
8:25:01contests that were offering trips to
8:25:04Europe well the first uh in about I
8:25:08think it was about
8:25:09March when I got my first letter and
8:25:12said congratulations
8:25:15you want a ham electric
8:25:17organ and I I said oh I didn't want an
8:25:20organ and then I made a joke out of it
8:25:23and I said you know when they read this
8:25:25stupid entry of mine they thought I
8:25:28needed therapy more than a trip and
8:25:31there's nothing more therapeutic than
8:25:33playing the organ you know but it was so
8:25:37funny uh they they actually when they
8:25:40brought the organ out and they actually
8:25:43had six months of free lessons they had
8:25:47a teacher that would you know I didn't
8:25:49know how to play the organ I said you
8:25:51know I think I'm going to pass that onto
8:25:54my husband and my husband took piano
8:25:58lessons or organ lessons and became very
8:26:01proficient he would entertain us when we
8:26:03had uh uh parties and things and he had
8:26:06never played before so this was real
8:26:09exciting and I continued to use that
8:26:13same entry
8:26:15and at long last it was I think gosh the
8:26:18deadline was getting close now and it's
8:26:21about uh the first part of May when I
8:26:24finally got a notice that
8:26:28um uh I was being considered uh you know
8:26:31when you enter a contest they just don't
8:26:34send you a letter or come out and give
8:26:35it to you uh there's some rules that you
8:26:38have to go through first of all they
8:26:40want to know are you Associated or do
8:26:43you it is anybody work for the
8:26:47contesting firm or anybody work that the
8:26:50product that they're uh you know that
8:26:52they're uh sharing and if you can
8:26:56disqualify yourself because you have to
8:26:58follow the rules so this is called an
8:27:02investigation and so when you get an
8:27:04investigation then uh they have to
8:27:06follow through because they don't need
8:27:08any bad publicity and then is when they
8:27:12call you and say congratulations you won
8:27:16and it was the last week in May and I'm
8:27:20chopping at the bit now and I want to be
8:27:23there the 1 of June do you know the
8:27:27night that they called and I said well I
8:27:30said gosh I have to be there the 1 of
8:27:32June and he says why the hurry and I
8:27:35said well I don't know we we I just have
8:27:37to be there and they had to bring out
8:27:40the tickets and we had every course I
8:27:43had my passport
8:27:44all lined up and uh to make a long story
8:27:47short we were sitting at that cafe in
8:27:50Paris France Sidewalk Cafe and drinking
8:27:54wine on our on my 40th
8:27:57birthday so not only can you enter
8:28:00conscious but you can have fun with it
8:28:02you know it was a fun and game project
8:28:05for me that's beautiful heaven and I
8:28:07mean I I I love your stories because it
8:28:09just seems unreal how you do this over
8:28:12and over and over and over and over
8:28:13again and of course your biggest most
8:28:16famous win the one that really really
8:28:18really caught people's attention um was
8:28:22I mean some people said that it was just
8:28:23because of your talent it was because
8:28:25you could come up with great slogans but
8:28:27really there there was something more to
8:28:29it because in many cases you actually
8:28:31defied the laws of probability um and
8:28:34your biggest win of course was the house
8:28:35and and we're going to talk about that
8:28:37in in a moment uh for those of you
8:28:38listening in um if you're interested in
8:28:40knowing more about Helen um this is the
8:28:42web page that you want to visit I want
8:28:45you to go to the winning sage.com the
8:28:48winning w n n i n g Sage s a ge.com
8:28:53slsp special and uh the reason why I say
8:28:57go to for/ special don't go to the main
8:28:59page is on this this particular page uh
8:29:03there is a golden key access pass so if
8:29:05you um um decide to get anything from
8:29:08Helen uh this access pass gives you um
8:29:11tons of free gifts bonus gifts um and uh
8:29:15um additional content that would not be
8:29:17available anywhere else that where
8:29:19elsewhere other people would have to pay
8:29:20for that here you would get that all
8:29:22free okay so once again it's the winning
8:29:24sage.com slsp special and now Helen
8:29:27let's get to that big that big win the
8:29:30um the house tell us that story because
8:29:32I know I've heard that and I think it's
8:29:34absolutely
8:29:36intriguing well I just gotten back from
8:29:39one of my trips and uh locally there is
8:29:42a uh contest clubs you know we have
8:29:46every every state has contest clubs and
8:29:50you can visit and locally those are
8:29:52available and uh we just you know it's
8:29:55like uh playing bridge with people but
8:29:58you have like interests and uh I
8:30:00belonged to one of them in Dallas and
8:30:03I'd gone there and one of the GS said oh
8:30:06she said uh when you were at the World's
8:30:08Fair I'd won a trip from the world fair
8:30:10and uh did you sign up at the farica
8:30:13place and and I said no I said I was so
8:30:16busy in other areas I didn't even visit
8:30:19that site and she saidwell
8:30:22locally uh they're having uh one of the
8:30:25display model homes that is uh the inter
8:30:30in the interior is their new for Mica
8:30:34products which where they had molding
8:30:36and some of the new designs and uh she
8:30:40said but it's closing at this end of
8:30:42this week and I saidoh where's it at and
8:30:46I lived at Irving at that time and uh
8:30:49Garland was the only place that had a
8:30:51model home and that's 40 45 miles from
8:30:56Irving and uh so but you had to go to
8:31:00that house and register or you had to
8:31:04mail in and uh the mailing in I mean
8:31:08there wasn't enough time because it was
8:31:10closing that Saturday so I amum
8:31:14the next morning we this was Monday
8:31:16night next morning was Tuesday and I had
8:31:20several friends that lived in Irving
8:31:22that uh were also members of the contest
8:31:24club and I called one and I said uh
8:31:28let's go over to Garland and and look at
8:31:30that for Micah house and she said no
8:31:33she's got the her rugs are going to be
8:31:35cleaned and she's not going to well
8:31:37doesn't want to get out and it was
8:31:40raining I'll never forget it because it
8:31:42was a a drizzle all day long and then I
8:31:46called another one I even said I'll buy
8:31:48you a pizza if uh you go with me let's
8:31:51get out and have some fun nobody I
8:31:54called three women nobody was going to
8:31:57go with me and I sat there and the more
8:32:01I thought about it am I going to miss an
8:32:04opportunity to win a house I got in the
8:32:07car and drove over there 43 miles sat in
8:32:12the house and registered my name and my
8:32:15husband's name and I took one of the
8:32:17entry blanks because I always like to
8:32:20see uh What uh keep uh just keep it
8:32:24handy and took one home and I'm that
8:32:27night I'm telling my husband I drove all
8:32:30the way over there and I said oh my
8:32:34gracious uh I signed your name and uh
8:32:39the entry blank said you must must have
8:32:43visited the home and you did not and and
8:32:47if they draw your name and you didn't
8:32:49see the home because they might ask a
8:32:51question about what did you like about
8:32:54this particular model home always always
8:32:58always follow the rules that's the most
8:33:00important thing when you enter any
8:33:04contest and so uh would you believe that
8:33:08Saturday morning and my husband is
8:33:11wanting to mow the yard and
8:33:14do some work around the house I said no
8:33:16no I said we're getting in the car and I
8:33:20we are going to go to Garland with me
8:33:24and you're going to look at the house
8:33:26just in case they call when they call
8:33:29and so you can actually say you were
8:33:32there well at that period I had been
8:33:35winning I was very very successful so he
8:33:38got in the car and we drove over there
8:33:41and the Builder happened to be there so
8:33:43we talked and introduced ourselves and I
8:33:46said I was so impressed with it that uh
8:33:49uh and we just and that was it and so
8:33:53that uh driving home you know I said you
8:33:55know I made that extra effort and I have
8:34:00so much energy now I'm going to put so
8:34:03much energy in it because I think we're
8:34:06ready for a new home and my husband
8:34:09bless he was always so it's so wonderful
8:34:13to have somebody that's
8:34:15supportive and he was and so that after
8:34:19the next day he said you know something
8:34:21uh uh we're we're we can um we can build
8:34:25a new house in another two three years
8:34:27and he said I'll just draw up the plans
8:34:30and I said okay drop the plans so when
8:34:33they let us know we can show them the
8:34:36plans and we've already have a head
8:34:38start on that so he actually sat there
8:34:42and Drew the plans
8:34:44uh the way we wanted it I mean suitable
8:34:46for our family and we just waited well
8:34:50it was a month now the contest closed
8:34:53Saturday night and it was a month one
8:34:56month later I was at uh the meeting
8:35:00again in Dallas and uh a phone
8:35:03call came and my husband he said you're
8:35:07not going to believe this he said uh uh
8:35:09yes you are going to believe this uh I
8:35:12had just we had have just been
8:35:14investigated somebody from Micah called
8:35:18and they asked to talk to you and I said
8:35:20well she's not here can I help you and
8:35:23he said did you buy any chance did she
8:35:25buy any chance visit the forah home and
8:35:28he said oh yes and I was with her I went
8:35:31also and so this is a an
8:35:35investigation now after an investigation
8:35:38how long does it take sometimes 3 4
8:35:41weeks and then you have an OP
8:35:43opportunity to say oh I missed out and
8:35:47all the negative not at all uh when you
8:35:50when you're on a positive kick stay
8:35:53there stay there and just absolutely
8:35:58don't even entertain anything uh and
8:36:01when I learned that earlier I never
8:36:04never told anybody what I was buying to
8:36:08win I did not give him an
8:36:11opportunity uh to nullify it or to send
8:36:15me bad energy or whatever my younger son
8:36:18coined something and I wrote it in the
8:36:21book cuz I thought it was kind of
8:36:22appropo he said mother let's never brag
8:36:26it until we begag it and that's the way
8:36:30we worked when we um never told anybody
8:36:34what we were working on and then after
8:36:36we won it and then we'd say okay uh here
8:36:39it is and I would recommend that too for
8:36:43uh people that are first getting started
8:36:46uh because there there are there can be
8:36:49people negative in your environment and
8:36:52then you're bragging it and say I'm
8:36:53going to win this and what they're doing
8:36:56they can n n nullify and you can pick up
8:37:01their thoughts and then you start
8:37:03doubting so don't take that route just
8:37:07be a positive person in all areas of
8:37:10your life and then you have um well it
8:37:14just it just makes you feel
8:37:17better so that's the way we won the
8:37:21house uh well was this was very
8:37:23interesting because uh I
8:37:26also like to play mental games with
8:37:29myself and uh this uh now we had not
8:37:33officially been notified but uh we we're
8:37:37all ready for them so this one morning
8:37:39I'm waking up and I feel just uh you
8:37:42know you feel lucky or you feel
8:37:45something exciting is going to happen
8:37:46that day and I told my husband I said
8:37:49today they're going to call and let us
8:37:51know we won this house and he said well
8:37:54then I think I'll stay home and as boys
8:37:58were going off to school I also and I
8:38:01have joke time I have a an odd sense of
8:38:04humor and I told my son I said listen uh
8:38:08when you come in uh this afternoon uh
8:38:11the people from for will be here for
8:38:14God's sake act surprised they expect it
8:38:18and that was you know that was just
8:38:20being flippant but they just kind of
8:38:23laughed yeah they just like kind of
8:38:25laughed and walked off you know and then
8:38:28uh it was about oh oh I went to the
8:38:31bakery and I I put the got all the
8:38:34fixings ready for coffee because I
8:38:36thought well I might as will be a good
8:38:38host and we're sitting there and my
8:38:41husband is piled up in bed
8:38:43uh reading the paper I even gave him
8:38:45breakfast and bed and was uh just sort
8:38:48of having a fun experience with it now
8:38:51it's 2 o'clock and he get gets up and he
8:38:54said are you sure uh that you had this
8:38:57feeling they're going to win you're
8:38:59going to and I said yeah it's there it's
8:39:01there I know I know they're going to
8:39:04call well it was about 15 minutes later
8:39:07when someone called and said uh uh Mrs
8:39:09hadsa we would like to talk to you and
8:39:12your husband and um uh when does he get
8:39:14in from work we would like to discuss
8:39:17something with you still very very hush
8:39:21hush and you know wanting to really uh
8:39:24make us uh feel uh well whatever they
8:39:29had in mind because they like to
8:39:31surprise people and I said well my
8:39:34husband's here today and they said oh uh
8:39:37is he off work or what and I said no he
8:39:40just took the day off and I didn't have
8:39:42the heart to tell him that he'd been
8:39:44waiting all day for this phone call and
8:39:48so I said but now we've got to act
8:39:50surprised when they let us know but they
8:39:53came in and they were very very uh vice
8:39:57president of the company came uh two two
8:40:01gentlemen came and of course uh this uh
8:40:05was all supposed to be Hush Hush also
8:40:09but uh we couldn't contain ourselves I
8:40:11was squealing with delight really and
8:40:15trly and so that was uh you might
8:40:17consider that my biggest win and uh yes
8:40:21I won two cars but most of the uh most
8:40:24of it was uh trips I loved loved going
8:40:28on trips and you name it and we were
8:40:31there any time there was a trip
8:40:35available uh I would sign up and we
8:40:38would make it as I say our yearly uh
8:40:41vacation time and how many trips to to
8:40:44to Europe that you
8:40:45went uh let's see my sons won two three
8:40:50trips uh I don't remember all of them
8:40:53six or seven trips and locally um uh two
8:40:58times we went to uh to a dude ranch
8:41:01because the boys liked to ride ride
8:41:04horses and so did Pat and then I think
8:41:07uh two I think one or two two trips to
8:41:11Disneyland the first one and then Alcott
8:41:14Center had uh won and uh yeah this is uh
8:41:19something we just just enjoyed now and
8:41:23always being positive and the whole
8:41:26family uh because the children uh were
8:41:29young I um I would have them enter
8:41:33children's contests you know naming
8:41:36ponies drawing things Etc we would sit
8:41:39around the table and we would all all
8:41:43participate in it and uh my husband
8:41:47would be in the living room reading the
8:41:48paper and we'd be out in the den with
8:41:51the three children at the table and
8:41:54they'd run in and show them what they
8:41:56drew or the names that we chose and he
8:42:00would encourage him it was just a fun
8:42:03fun experience and the beauty and the
8:42:06beauty about what you're doing Howen is
8:42:08uh you developed a process uh and and it
8:42:11really is a a mental State a
8:42:14process that a process that you could
8:42:17train other people to to use and that's
8:42:19how you could get your kids to use it as
8:42:21well yes definitely and they're I'm so
8:42:25pleased because they are so positive and
8:42:28uh and they have my offbeat sense of
8:42:30humor but it was such a fun fun fun
8:42:34experience so in a moment Helen let's
8:42:37let's talk about the process cuz I know
8:42:38people are on the phone are dying to
8:42:40find out exactly what they can do and
8:42:43and what they can and how they can try
8:42:44to bring this ability into their lives
8:42:46for those of you listening in if you
8:42:47want to uh learn everything you can
8:42:49about Helen's process uh spec how she
8:42:52does hit um please check out the winning
8:42:55sage.com
8:42:57slsp special so again it's the winning
8:42:59sage.com slsp in fact open it up on your
8:43:02browsers right now and what you'll get
8:43:05access to here is uh a complete program
8:43:08by Helen it includes movies uh sorry a
8:43:11DVD film uh audio a series of interviews
8:43:15and basically a comprehensive training
8:43:18system by Helen on how she does the
8:43:20magic or whatever you call it that she
8:43:21does and how you can bring this into
8:43:23your life once again it's the winning
8:43:25sage.com
8:43:26special Helen so let's talk about the
8:43:29process itself uh tell us a little bit
8:43:32about what you do um spec as well as the
8:43:37the mental state that you put yourself
8:43:41in uh well uh first of all uh what is it
8:43:44that you want uh that's uh select it uh
8:43:48what is it that you want and then after
8:43:52you select it you can write it down if
8:43:54you want to okay and then you project it
8:43:58now there can be ways of projecting it
8:44:01uh see yourself as having it or if
8:44:04there's a car you want you can go to the
8:44:07dealership or when you're driving in
8:44:09your old uh your old car and you pass
8:44:13the car that you want I always give it
8:44:17energy and this is projecting it see
8:44:20yourself as having it so there can be
8:44:24many many ways uh sometime um with
8:44:28children I used to do this and it may be
8:44:31immature or childish or whatever uh I
8:44:35would uh I have a you want to call it
8:44:38marbles or Pebbles or whatever and I
8:44:41would keep them in my hand and anybody
8:44:44can do this and get this Pebble and
8:44:47every time I had a pebble in my hand I
8:44:50would uh rub it and uh when I was um
8:44:54watching television when I was uh
8:44:58reading it was just like second nature
8:45:01with me because now I was hooking up
8:45:03here and I was giving energy and this
8:45:07was an automatic giving it energy I
8:45:10found that to be very uh did it work I
8:45:13don't know but it was successful and uh
8:45:16I would in fact when the children came
8:45:20over and we would have parties and
8:45:22things I would give them little colored
8:45:24Pebbles and I say these are your little
8:45:27good luck charms uh you know some people
8:45:29have rabbit foots rabbit foot that they
8:45:33carry in their pocket some people have
8:45:36um uh fourleaf clovers
8:45:39Etc uh sometime when you're watching a
8:45:43uh The Price is Right uh these people
8:45:45bring in their little uh what they call
8:45:48luck charms dolls and stuff that they
8:45:52hold they're giving energy to that but
8:45:55again uh when you have something like
8:45:58that you reinforce you reinforce energy
8:46:03and so that is a plus for you if you
8:46:05want to go that rout well I did and I do
8:46:09I attribute that to that I don't know
8:46:12but I I do know it was successful and I
8:46:15do know that I I kept using that and
8:46:18giving it energy that would be one one
8:46:22way and that is uh projecting out and
8:46:27then seeing yourself as having it
8:46:30now all of a sudden uh you get a feeling
8:46:34after you um been working with this for
8:46:37such a long time which I did uh I would
8:46:40get a knowing feeling
8:46:43and let me explain that uh let's say
8:46:46you're going to a a place where they
8:46:48have a a drawing at the end of the night
8:46:52and uh you see this color television and
8:46:54you want it and you have to have each
8:46:57one of you given tickets and uh as she's
8:47:00reading the tickets uh you get real
8:47:03antsy and almost have an adrenaline high
8:47:06and your heart starts beating rapidly
8:47:09and you think oh God I mean she's
8:47:12reading the last number and it's going
8:47:14to be me it's going to be me uh this is
8:47:18anticipating this is desire that's not
8:47:22knowing the the when you start knowing
8:47:26something you're standing there and
8:47:29there's no uh there's no uh uh
8:47:32anticipation there's nothing you just
8:47:34know they're going to call your name and
8:47:37it's a different feeling and I I need to
8:47:40say that that only comes
8:47:43after you have worked with this for for
8:47:47for a period for a period of time
8:47:50because the more uh the more that I
8:47:53worked in entering contests The more
8:47:55energy I projected uh the more readily I
8:47:59was able
8:48:00to uh know when they were going to let
8:48:04us know we won it was a feeling it was a
8:48:07knowing feeling and what makes this so
8:48:11interesting for me is is now that I've
8:48:14had a little publicity and I get a lot
8:48:16of emails and a lot of phone calls and
8:48:20uh with people that are confirming hey I
8:48:23know what you're talking about hey
8:48:25that's happened to me and uh I wasn't
8:48:29maybe as successful as you were because
8:48:32I got tied up in other areas and so
8:48:34forth but I would like to go ahead and
8:48:36get started again because there there's
8:48:40there's prizes out there for all just
8:48:43for the
8:48:44asking so then you have now selected it
8:48:48uh you have projected it and then you
8:48:51expect it and then you collect it and
8:48:54when you collect it then you can squeal
8:48:56with
8:48:57delight because I like how simple that
8:48:59process is and of course there's a lot
8:49:01more to it um there's an AR to selecting
8:49:03there's an AR to projecting um expecting
8:49:06it is a tricky one uh I know because of
8:49:08experimented it takes a while to build
8:49:09to build up that belief and collecting
8:49:12it is uh probably the most fun of all
8:49:14and once again for those of you
8:49:16listening in go to the winning sage.com
8:49:20special and over there you'll have
8:49:22access to the program where Helen Dives
8:49:24a lot deeper into this process and
8:49:25teaches you how to apply it into your
8:49:27life and that's really something I want
8:49:28to stress here Helen to to everyone
8:49:30calling in that this is not just about
8:49:33winning competitions it really is about
8:49:35drawing into your life using the power
8:49:37of your mind to draw into your life
8:49:39things that you feel could enrich your
8:49:42life style and uh um things that you
8:49:44feel would have meaning and pleasure and
8:49:47and bring joy to you and I know you've
8:49:50used this not just for contests but also
8:49:52to achieve some of your goals um such as
8:49:54your book um that was that had around 3
8:49:57million uh copies um printed and sold
8:50:01and um I also I I also love if there
8:50:05there's one more story I want to ask
8:50:06that you share with us and that is the
8:50:08story of how you would you could use
8:50:10other people's expectations ations of
8:50:12you to send you energy um I I think I
8:50:16refer to it as the Fishbowl story could
8:50:18you share that with us sure sure uh yes
8:50:21it was shortly after I won uh uh I was
8:50:24notified of the house and there was a
8:50:26lot of local publicity and uh my husband
8:50:29where my husband worked he was an
8:50:31engineer uh they had their annual
8:50:33Christmas party and that night we're in
8:50:36the audit we're walking in the
8:50:37auditorium and there are hundreds and
8:50:39hundreds of people there and uh we
8:50:42registered at the door there's a
8:50:43fishbowl there and uh they were giving
8:50:46away a big boom box and they're giving
8:50:50uh away fruit cakes and the dra at the
8:50:52end of the night they had this drawing
8:50:54well when I got in there and uh I looked
8:50:58at the boom box and I looked at my
8:51:00husband I said oh my daughter I said
8:51:03she's wanting one of these boom boxes
8:51:05for Christmas there's her Christmas
8:51:08present and the woman that was U handing
8:51:11out the tickets kind of laughed and she
8:51:14said yeah it's probably yours and I said
8:51:16sure it is well what happened then all
8:51:19the rest of these people come in and uh
8:51:22and she's telling them she said I don't
8:51:25know why you're even messing getting a
8:51:26ticket the hadel are here and she's
8:51:29already told me she's going to win the
8:51:31Boon box
8:51:33so but uh we were dancing and uh now see
8:51:38everybody knows now I won the house and
8:51:40they knew I won trips and everything
8:51:42and uh they would actually uh as we were
8:51:47dancing on the dance floor they'd come
8:51:48back I guess the BL boom box is yours
8:51:51and I would say sure well see all night
8:51:54long I'm getting all their energy and
8:51:57they don't even know it because
8:51:59everything to me is energy and at the
8:52:02end of the night um they're standing
8:52:04there now and it's time for the
8:52:06drawing and my husband's boss is has a
8:52:10fish bowl up there and he said okay
8:52:12we're gonna have the drawing and we're
8:52:14going to they had fruit cakes they drew
8:52:16for fruit cakes and I wasn't interested
8:52:18in that and now is a big prize of the
8:52:21boom box and he said I'm not even going
8:52:25to uh mess with that let somebody take
8:52:28over you'll think that I deliberately uh
8:52:31chose the hadel to win this and they're
8:52:34making fun of me and this woman comes up
8:52:38and she said well she's not going to win
8:52:40it I'm going to win it' and she reaches
8:52:42in and she uh gets all these all mixed
8:52:46up I think there were hundreds and
8:52:48hundreds of these little uh tickets in
8:52:51there and she pulls it out and she hands
8:52:53it so my husband's boss could read it
8:52:57and it was my number I won the boom box
8:53:01and uh they really and truly they did
8:53:03not know that they were doing or giving
8:53:07this energy toward me and so sometime it
8:53:12can be fun you know you just have a fun
8:53:14thing and another time I was in
8:53:17Hollywood and I had gone to all the uh
8:53:20the talk shows out there or they had a
8:53:22lot of contest um uh radio State I mean
8:53:27television
8:53:28contests and uh when I had when I went
8:53:31out there I wanted to need Arling litter
8:53:35I wanted to be on Queen for a Day I
8:53:38wanted to be on the um two three shows I
8:53:42wanted to see but uh during the day uh
8:53:45one of my friends had moved out there
8:53:48and we just went a trip to Disneyland
8:53:50and my husband took the children back
8:53:52home and I says I'm going to spend a
8:53:54week out here and I'm going to see uh
8:53:57I'm going to meet art link litter and
8:53:58I'm going to uh win some some some
8:54:02prizes out
8:54:04here and it was the most exciting week I
8:54:08had ever had really and truly I got in
8:54:11there
8:54:12uh one that one morning and uh uh it was
8:54:17a it was a sort of a complicated uh
8:54:20setup where they had a dboard and then
8:54:23they had to pick people from the
8:54:25audience and it was very very
8:54:28complicated and uh I looked at the
8:54:30audience and none of them uh well they
8:54:33all seemed to be winning but they're
8:54:35mostly appliances refrigerators and
8:54:37freezers tele color televisions at that
8:54:40time were very very very uh Power we
8:54:44were're very very good prizes and I'd
8:54:48already had it color television but my
8:54:50mother in South Dakota said uh you win
8:54:53all these things win me a a color
8:54:56television and so I'm projecting uh thir
8:54:59color television and I had these two a
8:55:02mother and a daughter sitting beside me
8:55:05and uh I when I won the uh television
8:55:09they said I've never never won anything
8:55:12nothing and and I saidwell what would
8:55:14you like to win and the mother said uh
8:55:17my refrigerator is completely out I
8:55:20would love to win this and uh then we
8:55:24had a break for lunch and they usually
8:55:26just had a buffet because uh they were
8:55:29they were taping uh in the day they
8:55:31would tape for three four segments so I
8:55:35stayed there and I said okay after uh
8:55:38after lunch I said let's project
8:55:42that you uh that you get this uh
8:55:44refrigerator well what do we do and I
8:55:47said well let's see your South is having
8:55:49it uh where do you want to put it and uh
8:55:52she thinks it's a game she's playing a
8:55:55game and I I made it so simple uh for
8:55:59her well after we got back into the
8:56:03auditorium uh all the seats were taken
8:56:06and they only had one one uh available
8:56:10and I wound up in the middle of the
8:56:13auditorium and she was up almost in the
8:56:15Rapter and we didn't didn't get to sit
8:56:19together and uh now she's pushing I
8:56:22could see she was apprehensive and I'm
8:56:25looking up there nodding and I'm just um
8:56:28putting my hands like a a circle like uh
8:56:32you're going to win you're going to win
8:56:33you know and just encouraging her
8:56:36mentally and I am very seriously working
8:56:40toward her and one day refrigerator came
8:56:43up uh I am seeing herself as having it
8:56:48and I kept telling her in her daughter
8:56:50to do the same thing and uh to make a
8:56:53long story short this woman won the
8:56:57refrigerator and what it was was it was
8:56:59a building up of energy again because
8:57:02the auditorium was full at that period
8:57:06but uh when people come in there uh they
8:57:09want to win something but but how what
8:57:12do you uh how are they thinking uh look
8:57:16at uh the competition is so Fierce
8:57:19there's no way I can win it and then
8:57:21they nullify themselves uh this is the
8:57:24reason that I continually
8:57:27continually uh preach uh stay positive
8:57:32until you have that until you get what
8:57:36you want and then get on to something
8:57:38else and that's the way the game is
8:57:40played it's called to name it and claim
8:57:42it game and uh everybody has this
8:57:45ability I'm not a chosen one and
8:57:48especially now that I hear and I get
8:57:52confirmation from all the other people
8:57:54that are saying hey I I read your book
8:57:57and one thing that was I I must share
8:58:01this with you because I was out on a
8:58:04lecture circuit now and I do book
8:58:06reviews and so forth and uh one weekend
8:58:11I um got a a a phone call from a kid in
8:58:15California and he said I had to call you
8:58:19personally to tell you what happened he
8:58:22said I just won a car and
8:58:26$25,000 thanks to you and I said do you
8:58:29mind sharing how you this came about and
8:58:33he said well I'm a a student here and uh
8:58:37uh my parents subsidized me and they're
8:58:39getting kind of tired of that and I went
8:58:42came home for Christmas holidays and I
8:58:44expected to get a nice check but what
8:58:47did my mother get me for Christmas your
8:58:50book the name it claim it game and she
8:58:54gave me envelopes and stamps and said I
8:58:58should read this book and uh uh win my
8:59:02own contest and start subsidizing myself
8:59:06and he says I was so
8:59:08disappointed and he says all the way
8:59:11home
8:59:12uh all the way back I'm um pouting and
8:59:16uh really really I'm I'm I'm just very
8:59:20very unhappy but he says she met you at
8:59:24one of your
8:59:26um
8:59:27um when you were on the lecture circuit
8:59:30and and she said well if that woman can
8:59:32do it you can do it too uh you're smart
8:59:35boy and so forth and that's when he
8:59:38started uh entering contest cuz he had
8:59:41the envelopes and on the stamps and he
8:59:44said you know Mrs hadsel I think I read
8:59:47your book 40 times I kept saying if she
8:59:51can do it I can do it I followed
8:59:55everything down to the last thing and
8:59:59said and even if I had B he said I'd
9:00:02slap myself and get back on the on the
9:00:05positive and that's when he won his car
9:00:09in his $25,000
9:00:12those were two things he wanted but he
9:00:14called me and then another woman wanted
9:00:17to win a trip to uh to Hawaii and one
9:00:22day then uh there's a knock on my door
9:00:25and uh she sent me a l from Hawaii and
9:00:29she says I'm in I'm here enjoying the
9:00:32trip that you helped me win uh it was
9:00:35just her all of a sudden about face and
9:00:39having enough energy and enough
9:00:42enthusiasm and positive thinking she won
9:00:45the trip I had nothing to do with it
9:00:47yeah and it and it wasn't just it wasn't
9:00:50just those kind of wins I mean we have a
9:00:51letter here from Jane um and this came
9:00:54in shortly after your product was first
9:00:56released and uh Jane won a lottery for
9:00:59uh $10,000 and2 and she wrote a letter
9:01:03crediting you and the uh the mindset
9:01:06that you that you were able to implant
9:01:07in her and and really that that is what
9:01:09makes your product so so so special you
9:01:12implant into people a mindset that they
9:01:15can use not just to win contest but to
9:01:20um to draw into their life other things
9:01:21that they could want and it's it's
9:01:24really about the spec system it's about
9:01:25desire belief expectancy um I know you
9:01:28are also heavily influenced by the work
9:01:30of Jose Silva and you talk about that uh
9:01:33Dr Norman Vincent Peele you talk about
9:01:34him and what he brought in and you
9:01:36really pull together so many of these
9:01:38teachings from the last 100 years um of
9:01:41Mind science philosophy and the Law of
9:01:43Attraction and you digest it into a very
9:01:45simple process that people can Embrace
9:01:47and use over and over and over and over
9:01:50again now for for for those of you
9:01:52listening what what I really like about
9:01:54Helen and this is how I explain Helen to
9:01:56people is that well you can watch a
9:01:58movie like the secret right and there
9:02:01are 12 or so people in the secret um who
9:02:03have amazing books out and many of these
9:02:05people are my friends I I highly respect
9:02:07them they are amazing teachers and
9:02:08individuals the thing about Helen is she
9:02:11just goes out there and she does it I
9:02:13mean someone who has been able to build
9:02:16a successful business and is wealthy and
9:02:19if they claim it's the law of attraction
9:02:21that helped them get there you could
9:02:22argue well maybe it was the Law of
9:02:23Attraction but maybe it was also their
9:02:25MBA but with Helen it's it seems to be a
9:02:29pure manipulation of the laws of
9:02:31probability because how else can a woman
9:02:33win a house out of 2 million other
9:02:36people taking part in that same
9:02:38competition and this really isn't about
9:02:40riding the writing the the correct
9:02:42slogan it's about drawing your name out
9:02:43of the Hat yet Helen's able to do this
9:02:46uh you heard about how she was able to
9:02:47meet art link letter uh and how she was
9:02:50able to teach someone in that in that
9:02:51audience to win a refrigerator so the
9:02:54other thing to stress is that it's a
9:02:55teachable system so again if you're
9:02:57ready to get started just go to the
9:02:59winning sage.com
9:03:01sspecial and um I've I've gone through
9:03:04all of hel books I've gone through the
9:03:06DVD and in fact I'm the one interviewing
9:03:08her on the DVD and um the reason I chose
9:03:11to do that is because when I first
9:03:12stumbled upon her books and her work it
9:03:14just had a profound experience in my
9:03:16life so Helen um we we now have
9:03:19questions coming in the the interview is
9:03:21almost over but we have a couple of
9:03:23really fascinating questions coming in
9:03:24from different people so I'm going to
9:03:26take these questions now I'm I won't be
9:03:28able to ask every single question we had
9:03:30over a hundred um that have been
9:03:32submitted but what me and my assistant
9:03:34here have been doing as we've been
9:03:36talking is she's been digesting these
9:03:38questions and sort of identifying the
9:03:39ones that were the most threads okay so
9:03:42let's start with the first question so
9:03:44Linda and Linda is asking how do I keep
9:03:48negative brain shatter under control and
9:03:50Helen just for the sake of time we need
9:03:51to keep the answers to under five
9:03:53minutes each okay so from Linda how do I
9:03:57keep negative brain shatter under
9:04:00control well you can only think of one
9:04:02thought at a time and if it's not
9:04:05constructive and creative and positive
9:04:07and then you are what I call your mental
9:04:10musing uh there's a technique that you
9:04:12can do and it's very simple uh putting a
9:04:17rubber band around your wrist is one of
9:04:19them and every time you something
9:04:21negative comes in anything negative
9:04:24comes you snap the rubber band to remind
9:04:27you to get back on track and stay
9:04:30positive that would be a technique I
9:04:33like that that that's very useful and uh
9:04:35uh I I actually know some people who do
9:04:37apply that technique um um I I know a
9:04:39marathon runner who applies that
9:04:40technique every time he has a doubt or
9:04:42he feels like quitting it's a really
9:04:44really powerful stuff so let's go on to
9:04:47to the next question this is from Wendy
9:04:49so Wendy is asking when a person has
9:04:50many things that interest them and they
9:04:52are passionate about how does one give
9:04:54enough um focused energy to all these
9:04:57Endeavors in order to have each of them
9:04:59be
9:05:00successful I think uh if you're a neite
9:05:03and this is a something that you just
9:05:06started I think I would just take the
9:05:08most important thing and project on it
9:05:11and uh uh then build up and you get to
9:05:15where you have three four goals or end
9:05:17results but to start out I would stay
9:05:20with one of them and just really give it
9:05:23all the energy the positive energy that
9:05:25you can and then go to another one so
9:05:30that that would be my uh my answer to
9:05:33that uh unless she was a very very
9:05:37positive person to start out with uh
9:05:40when I first started started out I
9:05:41wasn't that positive let's let's put it
9:05:44that way I was not that positive and uh
9:05:47the fact that I read the book posit the
9:05:50power of positive thinking that's what
9:05:53got me to thinking hey I better be
9:05:55positive I expected uh to accomplish
9:05:59anything here and so that's uh when you
9:06:03get started and then that's where you
9:06:06move on and then there's nothing really
9:06:09nothing that you can accomplish ACC or
9:06:11you can't
9:06:12have so it's very simple great thanks
9:06:17but back off and I say let's just do one
9:06:20thing at a time thanks Helen and the the
9:06:24next question is from Jackie and Jackie
9:06:28is asking how do you keep positive when
9:06:29so many people in your family
9:06:31intermediate and extended family are
9:06:33negative no matter what I do um they
9:06:36they get me down I try to sing smile and
9:06:38give positive comments I still get
9:06:40knocked down criticized what must I do
9:06:42to stay positively focused in this sort
9:06:45of environment sometimes I feel
9:06:48defeated uh well you know I just wrote
9:06:52uh I just send something uh I had that
9:06:55question uh put to me and I go back into
9:06:59some of my personal
9:07:01experiences and uh there's all kinds of
9:07:05uh creative ways you're all so
9:07:08intelligent and so uh have so many many
9:07:12uh what I say talents that are dormant
9:07:15and you've never even used it sit there
9:07:18and figure out a way uh one would be if
9:07:21if somebody is continually bad mouthing
9:07:25you or uh negative or uh criticizing you
9:07:30would be a good word and then I would
9:07:33say I thank you I'm glad you
9:07:35noticed and what you've done then you've
9:07:38nullified the energy you given yourself
9:07:41positive energy and you gave them
9:07:44something to think about and if they
9:07:46hear it often enough and you say thank
9:07:49you I'm glad you noticed that uh they
9:07:53they'll they'll wonder what's going on
9:07:56and they won't voice their opinion
9:07:57anymore because they're not getting a
9:08:00rise out of you see some people do that
9:08:03for attention don't give them any
9:08:05attention just say thank you I need it
9:08:08I'm glad you noticed that and there's
9:08:11nothing else that they can do So
9:08:14eventually they just don't they don't
9:08:16even they're not negative anymore they
9:08:18don't want to hear that so that would be
9:08:22one
9:08:23technique so um John asked and this is
9:08:26an interesting question you've sold
9:08:28millions of books and many use your
9:08:30methods what will happen if two people
9:08:33who have both been trained by by Helen
9:08:35are both going after the same contest
9:08:38let's say both of us two Helen train
9:08:40graduates were um watching balls being
9:08:43drawn for the lotto and both were
9:08:46Desiring to win who would be the one who
9:08:48would win what is the deter that's
9:08:50simple the one that one the one one that
9:08:53had accumulated the most
9:08:56energy and the next one that had not
9:09:00accumulated I would not give up I would
9:09:04simply uh continue to do if you've if
9:09:08you've chosen uh numers that you feel
9:09:11are um uh positive for you or they have
9:09:15significance stay with those numbers uh
9:09:19there's never any failure there can be a
9:09:22delay in results and then what you're
9:09:24doing you are nullifying that energy by
9:09:29not even seeing yourself as already
9:09:32having it granted lotteries I have a lot
9:09:35of
9:09:36competition but somebody's winning who's
9:09:39winning
9:09:41uh when you start reading in some of
9:09:43these uh journals uh weekly uh at the
9:09:47news stand there's always somebody in
9:09:49there that's won the lottery and they
9:09:51are in being
9:09:53interviewed uh read some of those things
9:09:56uh what they're doing they're using the
9:09:58same numbers the same identical numbers
9:10:03because the numbers have significance
9:10:04for them and uh probably going to the
9:10:08same place and always always seeing
9:10:12themselves as already having it mentally
9:10:15spending it so there's they they are the
9:10:18winners and so there's never any
9:10:21competition the only competition is
9:10:23really with yourself when you
9:10:26doubt so you can be your worst enemy
9:10:29thank you Helen that that's that's
9:10:31beautifully said U for those of you
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9:10:48buy Helen's product I've used the
9:10:50product I personally recommend it uh
9:10:51that's why I'm the one conducting the
9:10:53interview and um I really think this is
9:10:55valuable stuff for anyone who wants to
9:10:57take the power of their mind to the next
9:11:00level because here you have a woman uh
9:11:01if you've been listening here you you
9:11:03probably realized by now that you have a
9:11:04woman here who is actually living proof
9:11:07that the laws of probability are not
9:11:09completely completely uh um um sound or
9:11:13foolproof and that with the right
9:11:14attitude and the right mindset you can
9:11:17draw into your life things that you want
9:11:19to to to attract things that will bring
9:11:22you Joy whether it's competitions or uh
9:11:25a new love or business success or money
9:11:28so Helen let's go on with the questions
9:11:30and um this is an interesting one so
9:11:34Lena asked if you can use your mind to
9:11:37attract positive things such as
9:11:38contesting wins if is this the same
9:11:41reason why some people repeatedly
9:11:43experience negative things such as being
9:11:45mugged for example and she goes on to
9:11:48add that this had just happened to her
9:11:50mom so how does one how does someone who
9:11:53is in sort of a negative spiral and is
9:11:55experiencing these negative things how
9:11:57could they over time come
9:12:01out uh well you know desire is a
9:12:05criteria uh some people are negative
9:12:08because they get attention and then it's
9:12:10a way of life with them and nothing will
9:12:14make them happy uh it has to start with
9:12:17you uh you have to change I call it an
9:12:21attitude
9:12:22adjustment and that's all it is uh the
9:12:26other day I got a letter four Page
9:12:28Letter and all it was was complaining
9:12:33about how everybody mistreated her every
9:12:36physical challenge she had and so forth
9:12:39uh it just overwhelms you when you hear
9:12:42that and you read four pages of it and
9:12:46what can you tell a person like that uh
9:12:49all I do I have a something here that I
9:12:53mail out because I think if they take
9:12:56the time to write or to email me at
9:12:59least I can respect their wishes and
9:13:02give them some kind of a uplifting
9:13:05encouragement and so what I do is say
9:13:08you need an attitude ad just M and here
9:13:11you can get started and there's a saying
9:13:14you know watch your thoughts they become
9:13:16words watch your words they become
9:13:19actions uh it comes a way of life with
9:13:22you so you have to want to change your
9:13:27thinking change your thinking and
9:13:30everything around you changes make it
9:13:33constructive creative and positive
9:13:37you're in control you create your Destin
9:13:40Destiny what is it you
9:13:42want and this is this is all I can say
9:13:45and then I repeat it over and over and
9:13:47over again and as Dr Murphy said and
9:13:51incidentally Murphy was a friend of mine
9:13:54and wrote about 42 books on Powers of
9:13:57the subconscious mind but he said you
9:14:00know something sometime people have to
9:14:03hear it or read it 42 times before they
9:14:07get it and in some cases that that
9:14:12sometime is necessary for some people
9:14:16because they've been in their rut for
9:14:17such a long long time that's very you're
9:14:21the only yeah you're the only one that
9:14:23can get yourself out of it really that's
9:14:26very true and and Helen here's here's
9:14:28one thing I want to add to that because
9:14:29you just reminded me um of of one thing
9:14:32that happened when I started when I
9:14:34started studying your material see now
9:14:35I've been a student of the Mind in the
9:14:37Law of Attraction for many many many
9:14:38years as you know I used to teach
9:14:40um I was a silver method instructor and
9:14:43the silver method um um had profoundly
9:14:45influenced you as well so I always
9:14:47thought that I knew this stuff but when
9:14:49I met you um in September 2008 uh when I
9:14:53came to visit you in Texas and we were
9:14:55talking I learned stuff from you that
9:14:58never ever crossed my mind um and what
9:15:01you just said about having to reread the
9:15:02book 42 times reminded me of this
9:15:05sometimes you you you may have to learn
9:15:07the same thing but from a slight
9:15:09different angle of from a different
9:15:10teacher and all of a sudden it clicks
9:15:13and what clicked with me I'm not going
9:15:14to give away too much in this teles
9:15:16seminar because I know this is one of
9:15:17those Advanced topics um and that we not
9:15:21we would not even bring up in this teles
9:15:22seminar because it could be a little bit
9:15:24uh uh too advanced for many people but
9:15:26what you said that clicked with me was
9:15:28the power of tapping into guides my my
9:15:31guides or Angels or whatever you want to
9:15:33call them but the power of tapping into
9:15:34these guides to add additional energy to
9:15:37what I was trying to manifest and when I
9:15:39started doing that uh my ability to draw
9:15:41things into my life just magnified it
9:15:44exploded and my life has never been has
9:15:47really not been the same since um so
9:15:49anyway for those of you listening in
9:15:51keep in mind that even if you feel
9:15:52you've heard it all that you've watched
9:15:54the secret 42 times often hearing
9:15:57something different hearing the same
9:15:59thing repeated by a different teacher
9:16:01with their tiny spin on it can do one
9:16:04this cuz all of a sudden you have that
9:16:05wakeup calling that one piece of the
9:16:07puzzle that has been missing suddenly
9:16:09enters into your life and that's when
9:16:11things really change that was what
9:16:12happened with me when I heard about this
9:16:14whole concept of guides true Helen and
9:16:16this is one of those Advanced concept
9:16:18that that will be covered in the product
9:16:20that you will find on the winning
9:16:21sage.com slsp special okay Helen next
9:16:26question and this is from Marshall
9:16:28Marshall says he's been using your
9:16:29system to try to win money at the casino
9:16:32and over time he's found that he does
9:16:35win way more than he loses but he does
9:16:37lose sometimes too overall he's making a
9:16:40game but what he wants to find out is
9:16:42how can he increase the rates of his
9:16:46winning uh I um we're going to get into
9:16:50something here that may be a little more
9:16:52advanced here um uh when um you are in a
9:16:57group a crowded group and uh you you
9:17:01start becoming very very sensitive to
9:17:04their vibrations to their energies uh
9:17:07you know we all have an our our an aura
9:17:10around this a field of energy and then
9:17:13when you're in close proximity with
9:17:15someone you pick up their energy also
9:17:19and that can be a little difficult and
9:17:23so what I do and this is going to sound
9:17:26off the wall but you ask me so I'm going
9:17:29to tell you um when you're out with a
9:17:33group whether it's a casino or whatever
9:17:36uh see yourself encased in a bubble of
9:17:40light of energy uh this is encased in a
9:17:44bubble of energy and then nothing can
9:17:47penetrate that or come in uh now as I
9:17:51said it sounds off thewall but I have
9:17:54I'm blessed with all of these beautiful
9:17:57uh Advanced metaphysical friends that
9:17:59come to visit me and do you know that
9:18:03when they come in they can come in the
9:18:04door and they'll start smiling and look
9:18:08at their the friend that they brought
9:18:10and they say they would say Helena has
9:18:15her has her uh Shield up in other words
9:18:20she you can't you're not going to be
9:18:22able to read her or to Cy her out
9:18:25because she has her Shield up Okay this
9:18:28may sound real real far out but believe
9:18:31me beautiful people this happens to us
9:18:35we are subjected to other people's
9:18:38energy and I ventured to say when you
9:18:42start using this bubble of energy around
9:18:46you uh no one nobody can penetrate it
9:18:50they they don't know what it is uh you
9:18:52can be positive in there but they cannot
9:18:55penetrate it someone else can see it uh
9:18:58if they're uh if they have these
9:19:00abilities and so this is uh something
9:19:04that uh uh in fact a couple of months
9:19:06ago I was talking to jov Vel and I said
9:19:09listen I said you keep that energy
9:19:11around you uh when you're on lecture
9:19:14tour I did this all the time
9:19:16incidentally when I was on tour all
9:19:19these years and before I got on the
9:19:22podium I would just put this light
9:19:25energy around me I never had any
9:19:28hecklers uh some of them would have you
9:19:31know hecklers Etc I never had a problem
9:19:34with that never never and I attribute
9:19:38that to uh
9:19:40to having uh well the light of
9:19:42protection is what it
9:19:44is so that I mean that's that would be
9:19:49my answer to that thanks Helen and um so
9:19:52now now we have a question from Ken and
9:19:54oh and just before I read this question
9:19:55just wanted to say joval an amazing
9:19:57teacher and uh I really uh one of the
9:20:00things he said in his blog post that
9:20:01that I just now remember is that he said
9:20:03Helen hadel should have been featured in
9:20:06The Secret and and I honestly wish they
9:20:07had featured you but that was an amazing
9:20:10endorsement to get from Jo
9:20:12Bal yeah well it wasn't meant to be I
9:20:15say if it's meant to be it'll fall in
9:20:18place but I hadn't even thought about
9:20:20that absolutely so okay next question
9:20:22this is from A lady called Ken and she
9:20:27says sometimes um as we are going
9:20:30through this process something happens
9:20:32uh say we lose the first contest or we
9:20:34lose our first or we don't uh get our
9:20:37first desire and um we get into a
9:20:40feeling of being let down and
9:20:41discouraged how do we overcome this
9:20:43feeling and continue with high
9:20:46energy okay um I I voiced it the same
9:20:51way I said there's never never any
9:20:53failures there can be a delay in
9:20:56results and as I said earlier uh when
9:21:00there's a delay in results it simply
9:21:02means someone else had more energy for
9:21:06that particular thing than you did that
9:21:09doesn't necessarily mean that there's
9:21:12not another one out there for you it
9:21:14just means there was a delay a temporary
9:21:17delay in
9:21:18results that's my attitude with
9:21:20everything we have a delay in results uh
9:21:25the other day uh something closer to
9:21:27home and this may sound wow I was
9:21:31sitting here the other day and I love we
9:21:34have a a Baskin Robins ice cream place
9:21:37here but they make probably the best um
9:21:41coconut macaroons of anybody in the
9:21:44whole world I love their uh they
9:21:48macaroons I'm thinking and thinking God
9:21:51I would like to have some of those
9:21:53macaroons I feel like going out it's
9:21:55still 102 here in Texas and so I try to
9:22:00stay in where it's comfortable and would
9:22:02you believe uh you had to be here today
9:22:06when my son walked in the door
9:22:10and this is not he took the day off in
9:22:12fact and coming uh coming out here which
9:22:17is a 32 miles he uh he stopped at A
9:22:23Basin Robins bought these and I never
9:22:27mentioned anything to anybody I just
9:22:29thought about them and he comes in with
9:22:32his package of coconut
9:22:35macaroons and puts it on the table and I
9:22:38said oh oh I said was that my thought or
9:22:42your thought and he says probably your
9:22:45thought but this this happens more and
9:22:50more all the time when you're projecting
9:22:53even little little thing like macaroons
9:22:57I mean this is can be
9:22:59unreal and so the other day I was
9:23:02invited uh to go out to um uh one of um
9:23:07my H uh one of my friends friends uh was
9:23:11giving a dinner party uh she had a an
9:23:14Indian and she was cooking this Indian
9:23:17food and I was invited and I decided
9:23:21Well I don't think I want to go because
9:23:23it would be a long drive into Fort Worth
9:23:26I just want to mess with it I love my
9:23:28space out here and uh so I said well I
9:23:32would like to taste the Mexican I mean
9:23:34the uh the Indian food cuz I'm not that
9:23:37familiar with it but but there'll be an
9:23:40opportunity when I have you know when I
9:23:42can taste it would you believe my son
9:23:47who was uh going into Fort Worth and had
9:23:50stopped there to uh give her uh he was
9:23:54he bought some things for somebody that
9:23:57was at that party and while he's at the
9:24:00party uh he's eating I mean tasting this
9:24:03food and the woman uh fixed a whole big
9:24:08bowl of this Indian food for me and
9:24:11that's what I had for lunch today I
9:24:13never told her I just thought I would
9:24:16like try some of this Mexican I mean
9:24:18this uh Indian food so start looking for
9:24:23things like that they happen every day
9:24:26uh what brought those to you what were
9:24:29you thinking how did it come about and
9:24:32then you can squeal with delight like
9:24:35when I looked there and he he brought
9:24:37these coconut macaron
9:24:39I've already eaten two in a with a cup
9:24:41of tea but see it's little things like
9:24:44that that make your day that's beautiful
9:24:47and I I I love that lesson Helen because
9:24:50because a lot of people think that that
9:24:52that you use spec and the various stuff
9:24:55you teach just for the big things but
9:24:56really it's about daily things I use it
9:24:58when I'm missing a particular friend and
9:25:00I I'm hoping that they'd shoot me an
9:25:01email or give me a call or I might use
9:25:04it if uh like you said if I'm Desiring a
9:25:06certain kind of food and I find that
9:25:08that particular food just pops into uh
9:25:11uh my life that that day or the
9:25:13subsequent day a friend might invite me
9:25:15out to that thigh restaurant when I was
9:25:16thinking about thigh food or something
9:25:18along those lines but it is really
9:25:19beautiful when it happens and when you
9:25:21start logging these tiny successes it
9:25:23boosts your belief system and then the
9:25:25bigger and bigger and bigger successes
9:25:27come yes you create you create these
9:25:31your destiny really and truly and uh why
9:25:35not make us positive I mean life is so
9:25:38beautiful exciting all the time when
9:25:41you're positive in all these things I
9:25:44mean here at my age I can squeal with
9:25:46delight uh when when things happen it's
9:25:49never never like a daal it's always an
9:25:52adventure yeah and and what we're doing
9:25:55right now actually is uh I think we
9:25:56we're almost preempting the the answer
9:25:58to uh to one of our most popular
9:26:01questions we had two people ask this
9:26:03question Marina and Nancy both asked the
9:26:06same question and that is how do I build
9:26:08up my faith and belief that's
9:26:10essentially the question they they
9:26:11worded it a little bit longer but I'm
9:26:13summarizing it Helen how would you
9:26:15answer
9:26:15that okay uh do you know there are so
9:26:19many many wonderful wonderful books uh
9:26:24so many want do it to do-it-yourself
9:26:26thing really um when you're initially
9:26:29wanting to get started and that's like
9:26:32keeping a journal just get one of these
9:26:34little composition books and start
9:26:37writing down your thoughts
9:26:39uh what are you in the morning when
9:26:41you're getting up what do you feel like
9:26:44uh is it negative or you know some of
9:26:46these older people sit there and look at
9:26:49themselves what's going to hurt today
9:26:51and at the end of the day they can
9:26:52barely move because they've given that
9:26:55much energy to their foot or whatever uh
9:26:58we all have little physical challenges
9:27:00that's part of of living here but uh if
9:27:05it does I mean if you did get up and uh
9:27:07say you had an arthritic pain someplace
9:27:11and you'll say I don't need it I'm in
9:27:13control of this body it's mind over
9:27:15matter I'm in control of the B
9:27:18straighten yourself up and then make a
9:27:20cup of tea and then think of something
9:27:23uplifting good music listen to good
9:27:26music read a good book uh there's many
9:27:30many many little I have a deck of cards
9:27:33here that someone gave me and they're
9:27:35called Angel cards and I was so
9:27:38impressed impressed with them that I
9:27:40I've given them I've given well at least
9:27:43a dozen to my friends because they're so
9:27:46uplifting and there's so many good good
9:27:49thoughts of the day and start keeping a
9:27:52journal writing them down and then
9:27:54rereading them and giving them energy
9:27:57and this makes you feel better it just
9:28:00uh well you just get a whole new lease
9:28:02on life you're in control remember of
9:28:05what you think so make it constructive
9:28:09positive and creative thank you Helen
9:28:11and that's a beautiful way to to wrap up
9:28:13this entire interview for those of you
9:28:15listening I hope you gained some some
9:28:16some useful tips and advice over here
9:28:18and if you really want to take this to
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9:28:41amazing program I completely recommend
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9:28:46Helen as I explained earlier and when
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9:29:08go ahead and do that right now Helen
9:29:10thank you so much it's been amazing
9:29:12talking to you um those of you listening
9:29:14in please keep in mind that Helen
9:29:15recently changed to spelling of her name
9:29:17so if you do Google her online um her
9:29:20previous name was Helen h l n now it's
9:29:23Helen he l n e did I pronounce that
9:29:26correct yes uhhuh yes I've done this
9:29:29years and years ago perfect uh it rang
9:29:32true I mean I I like it's it's softer
9:29:36and it was just one of my my little
9:29:39things that I wanted to do wonderful and
9:29:42can I say one more thing yes please go
9:29:43ahead okay um I want to tell uh when
9:29:47you're positive beautiful people out
9:29:49there uh and it's a way of life with you
9:29:52and then I'm again going to recommend
9:29:54that you're keeping this uh Your Daily
9:29:57Journal you're going to find that you're
9:30:00all of a sudden going to have this calm
9:30:02contented feeling it's going to surface
9:30:05and it realize what life in the physical
9:30:08is all about you're going to find
9:30:10yourself uh more as an observer and and
9:30:14your understanding of people will take
9:30:16on a whole new
9:30:18perspective uh so there's lots and lots
9:30:20of bonuses that you get simply by being
9:30:25positive and I would highly highly
9:30:28recommend that you go ahead and uh keep
9:30:31a journal uh and uh uh refer to it and
9:30:36always make it creative and positive and
9:30:39constructive Helen what what do you
9:30:41recommend I I love that idea quick
9:30:43question what do you recommend we write
9:30:44in that journal all our thoughts are
9:30:46just a list of our successes our
9:30:48positive
9:30:50successes uh yes uh if if you're waking
9:30:53up and and you have a physical challenge
9:30:56uh then go unto something uh I have um
9:31:00my ability to heal is Amplified I'm
9:31:04Healed I'm Healed and then go to
9:31:06something else uh listening to music
9:31:11uh making um I I had this vivid
9:31:16imagination um like for instance now I
9:31:19have a flowers out here four different
9:31:22rose bushes and I sit in the morning
9:31:26when I get have my morning tea I go out
9:31:28there and sit before it gets too warm
9:31:31and I visualize some blooming for me and
9:31:34the next morning I have abundant uh R
9:31:38red rose and then the next morning I
9:31:40want the white ones and I want the pink
9:31:42ones and the yellow ones and my son
9:31:45comes over and he said mother have you
9:31:47been playing with the flow mentally
9:31:49playing with the flowers
9:31:51again this is energy this is energy and
9:31:55uh using your energy if you don't use it
9:31:58you lose it you know and so these are
9:32:01games that I play and that and that what
9:32:03you're talking about is is is very
9:32:05similar to the Gratitude exercise it's
9:32:07something I do every day and it's a very
9:32:08powerful exercise and it's something
9:32:10that I know you um cuz you've showed me
9:32:12your gratitude book those of you
9:32:14listening in when you do get the product
9:32:15from the winning sage.com special you
9:32:18will get a a a link to a software uh
9:32:21it's actually an online community where
9:32:23people share gratitude messages with
9:32:25each other that's something to look out
9:32:27for I'm on it it's really really really
9:32:29useful and it's one of those things that
9:32:31will really help you overcome um um in a
9:32:34massive way negative doubts of things
9:32:36that are holding you back once you make
9:32:38this of your daily practice Helen once
9:32:40again thank you it was wonderful having
9:32:43you I love I love all the conversations
9:32:45I have with you for those of you
9:32:46listening in go to the winning sage.com
9:32:49slsp special c a l i um look forward to
9:32:53seeing all of you on the other side
9:32:55thanks Helen and thank you all for
9:32:57listening in and thank you for letting
9:33:00me share with
9:33:01you hi Helen how are you this is this is
9:33:04V Lani absolutely fabulous how how was
9:33:09your Christmas uh well it was just
9:33:12another day I had the family here but I
9:33:15am so intrigued with all of the emails
9:33:19that I'm getting from people all over
9:33:21the world it's just is very very
9:33:25exciting that so many people are
9:33:27interested in their spiritual growth and
9:33:31you're giving them the opportunity to
9:33:34learn a little bit more about themselves
9:33:37so wouldn't that a perfect day perfect
9:33:40you were telling me you were getting
9:33:41around 50 emails a day right now yes yes
9:33:45uhhuh and uh and that's that's pretty
9:33:48astonishing because we we did not give
9:33:50out your email address anywhere on the
9:33:52website uh because I I knew the swarm of
9:33:54of responses You' get we had uh so far
9:33:5713,000 people uh listen to the interview
9:34:00that we did together um that somehow
9:34:02people are so excited about what they
9:34:04heard you speak about that they are
9:34:05Googling online and and they are somehow
9:34:08digging up your personal contact
9:34:09information which is in a way creepy but
9:34:12in a way also kind of exciting it shows
9:34:13how much people adore you and and like
9:34:15your
9:34:18message well I'm not I'm just another
9:34:21person and I'm just
9:34:24absolutely sincere about telling people
9:34:28what their potential is there's so many
9:34:31many out there that really are not using
9:34:35their talents their mind I mean it's
9:34:39it's mindboggling to me uh so I'm happy
9:34:44to help any way that I can perfect well
9:34:46what we're going to do in this in in
9:34:48this particular T seminar Helen is um
9:34:51last night I sent an email to everyone
9:34:53who signed up the the I sent an email
9:34:56only to the first 10,000 people who
9:34:58signed up to purchase the uh the new DVD
9:35:01and book set that that you're going to
9:35:03be releasing in January and I asked them
9:35:06for their biggest question for Helen hat
9:35:08so I have had a ton of emails come in
9:35:11and what we did was we've been going
9:35:13through all the emails and of course not
9:35:15everybody is going to have their
9:35:16question asked but what we are looking
9:35:18for are specific Trends questions or
9:35:20themes that pop up multiple times we
9:35:23have compiled these Trends and what we
9:35:24want to do in for the next um uh 1 to
9:35:27two hours we're probably going to have
9:35:29to split this into two separate
9:35:31teleseminars that's just a ton of
9:35:32questions but what we're going to do is
9:35:34ask you the most the biggest most common
9:35:37questions that people are having since
9:35:40watching you in the DVD and reading your
9:35:42book um so are you uh are you all set to
9:35:45get
9:35:46going we'll do the best we can okay so
9:35:49this is going to be a free flow uh
9:35:51there's not going to be any um um
9:35:54specific Direction I'm simply going to
9:35:56go with the most common question so
9:35:58let's start with what is perhaps the
9:36:01most um frequently requested piece of
9:36:05information from you and that's
9:36:07basically this and it and um so far I've
9:36:10seen this question just come in from
9:36:12Judy from Bob from Paulina I'm not going
9:36:14to give people's last names to protect
9:36:16your privacy but here's the question the
9:36:18question is we love the spec system what
9:36:22we'd like to know is how long do I have
9:36:25to stay focused on a particular goal in
9:36:28order to see the outcome in order to see
9:36:31it manifest itself how many times a day
9:36:34how many affirmations how long weeks
9:36:37months how do I how long do I have to
9:36:40stay focused on the outcome that I
9:36:42desire it varies uh you know when you're
9:36:46really and truly wanting something how
9:36:48important is it to you you should be
9:36:51thinking about it you can write it down
9:36:54uh it comes to mind or you can
9:36:57deliberately sit and focus on it uh five
9:37:01minutes 10 minutes uh your thoughts on
9:37:05that thing you're sending energy to it
9:37:09this is very very important so how long
9:37:11will it take it depends it depends how
9:37:15much energy it needs uh don't ever ever
9:37:19admit failure there can be a delay in
9:37:21results kids but everything that I have
9:37:24ever set out to do I can truthfully say
9:37:29it has manifested yes I think that does
9:37:32answer the question Helen I I do have a
9:37:34follow-up question this comes from Angie
9:37:37and relates to the first question now
9:37:39Angie's issue is how do you stay focused
9:37:42on your intentions how do I stay
9:37:45positive and not let negative ideas or
9:37:49influences come in to distract me you
9:37:51see I start off with an intention and
9:37:53then I get distracted and then I realize
9:37:56a week or two later that I'm no longer
9:37:58working on this intention and I have to
9:38:00start all over again and it's really
9:38:01frustrating and I end up quitting so how
9:38:05do you stay focused and positive
9:38:09well of course I've done this for such a
9:38:11long period it's it's just easy for me
9:38:14to do it but as a beginner if you have
9:38:18this um uh frustration Etc why don't you
9:38:21just write it down why don't you just
9:38:24keep it in a on a piece of paper or in a
9:38:27book something that you can look at all
9:38:29the time uh in the car you're in the car
9:38:32most of the time just pin it to the
9:38:35dashboard pin it on the refrigerator in
9:38:38the bathroom on the mirror there are so
9:38:41many many ways then then your mind will
9:38:44get back on it I can truthfully say that
9:38:48we are
9:38:50influenced with people around us what
9:38:52they are thinking and it is a
9:38:55distraction but then come on use these
9:38:58little tools here until you become
9:39:02confident and are able to automatically
9:39:05remember kids you can only think of one
9:39:08thing at a time and if other things are
9:39:12coming in and you need that to focus on
9:39:16and then do these little things by
9:39:18writing it putting it on the mirror and
9:39:21and uh on the dashboard as I suggested
9:39:25then it'll then it'll come to you you'll
9:39:28be giving it
9:39:29energy and believe me it works so it's
9:39:33so then it's about um so then what
9:39:36you're saying Helen is it's may take a
9:39:38while to come it really depends on how
9:39:40much energy uh the outcome requires and
9:39:43it's really a question of Simply staying
9:39:45focused and to keep pouring energy into
9:39:48this this thought this desire yes am I
9:39:51right yes now specifically in your case
9:39:53what have you found to be specific tools
9:39:55or methods or systems that have worked
9:39:58for you that have allowed you to stay
9:39:59focused no matter how long it took that
9:40:01have allow you to allowed you to stay
9:40:03focused on the outcome you were
9:40:06seeking I think uh if there'd be one
9:40:09answer to that it would be how really
9:40:13really much do you desire something when
9:40:17you desire something and then you're
9:40:19going to make you're going to make it
9:40:21work because you're thinking about it
9:40:25and you know as I said earlier uh the
9:40:28power of positive thinking you know when
9:40:31Vincent peel when I read that book and I
9:40:34was so so impressed and I'm the kind of
9:40:38a person that's got to prove things to
9:40:41myself and that's when I started it was
9:40:44a flippant way uh like my husband wants
9:40:48a a a a motor I mean a motor for his
9:40:52boat okay how often did I think about
9:40:56that all the time I wanted him to have
9:40:59that boat motor and yes I gave a thought
9:41:04and I was it was humorous because I kept
9:41:06saying I wonder how long it's going to
9:41:08take him to let us know we
9:41:11won and it it took I think two or three
9:41:14weeks until the contest was over with
9:41:18and then when they called him I just
9:41:21just assumed okay now now what else do
9:41:24we want it was it was flippant it was um
9:41:29a desire that was important to me
9:41:32because maybe I wanted to prove that
9:41:35Vincent Peele had something going and
9:41:38evidently he did by suggesting this and
9:41:42then taking a hold of it I call it hook
9:41:46line and
9:41:47thinker and that's what you do and you
9:41:50take a hold of it and you think about it
9:41:53constantly until it
9:41:55manifests so that's what I did oh yes I
9:41:59had to do other things you know uh
9:42:01mundane things but that was the focus
9:42:05that uh that kept me going just uh he
9:42:09needs that outboard motor I've seen the
9:42:11outboard motor and that was it because
9:42:16you know initially when it started I sat
9:42:19in my chair and pretended like I was my
9:42:22husband and I wrote the words that um at
9:42:26that time we had to write 25 words or
9:42:29less and so I wrote well I he wanted it
9:42:32and you know he's a lone wol fisherman
9:42:35and so forth and uh uh from that point
9:42:39on I just just uh I didn't even doubt
9:42:43kids I didn't even doubt I didn't
9:42:45discuss it with anybody except my
9:42:48husband and it we'd laugh about it and I
9:42:51say wonder how it's going how long it's
9:42:53going to take them so I don't know every
9:42:57case worked
9:42:59different and so there's not one answer
9:43:03I and I love that line you just used
9:43:05Hook Line and thinker
9:43:08Helen have you noticed that because i'
9:43:11I've heard other mind philosophers such
9:43:13as Jose Silva say this but the first
9:43:16time you you you try to manifest
9:43:18something it may take a while but every
9:43:20time you have a success it helps build
9:43:22up your belief system and the next thing
9:43:24you try to manifest H comes to you
9:43:27quicker and quicker and quicker and
9:43:29quicker and pretty soon you find that
9:43:31you can manifest things extremely
9:43:33rapidly no longer in weeks or months but
9:43:35in a matter of days or even hours have
9:43:38you found that to be true in your
9:43:40experience definitely and then it was
9:43:43called I was called lucky and then I was
9:43:46called a witch and that's when I coined
9:43:49the word not
9:43:51witchcraft but wish wi I wishcraft I'm
9:43:56good at
9:43:58that what what was the fastest what was
9:44:00the fastest fastest thing you ever
9:44:03manifested I think uh the night that we
9:44:05went to the dance uh it was right around
9:44:08Christmas time and I was just told I won
9:44:11the house and my husband and I went to
9:44:13the dance and we walked in there and
9:44:16there Big Boon box on the table and uh
9:44:20Christmas uh cake and stuff as the door
9:44:23prizes at the end of the night and when
9:44:26I registered to put my name in this in
9:44:29this fish bowl I said I want that Boon
9:44:33box for my daughter for
9:44:35Christmas and ever she laughed and as
9:44:39people came in she said the hatchel are
9:44:42here and Mrs hatel already won the boom
9:44:46box and so what was so interesting is
9:44:50all night long we were dancing and
9:44:54people would stop and say oh she's lucky
9:44:56she won a house Etc and now she's got
9:44:59she already has the boom box or why
9:45:02should I register she's already one and
9:45:06what they were doing they were giving me
9:45:09energy and they they were not even aware
9:45:12of it and so at the end of the night
9:45:15when they drew the name and um my
9:45:19husband's boss said I want nothing to do
9:45:22with this and he handed the bowl over to
9:45:25somebody else and this woman comes up
9:45:28and she says well they're not going to
9:45:30get it it was sort of like a joke and
9:45:32she reaches in and hands the name and
9:45:36the man read the name and it was it was
9:45:38the hatel I mean I won that boom box
9:45:41that's that's hilarious so when you walk
9:45:43in you you had not actually won the boom
9:45:45box you simply declared that you were
9:45:47going to win and other people because
9:45:49they knew you had just warn the house
9:45:50they thought you were some kind of witch
9:45:52you had some sort of Lucky spell they
9:45:54too assumed you were going to win the
9:45:56boom box this added more
9:45:59energy to you win and your name ended up
9:46:03being drawn that that is a beautiful
9:46:04story so I I have a question here from
9:46:06Kathy
9:46:07um what what you just talked about Helen
9:46:10was an example where people expect you
9:46:12to win now Kathy's question is about the
9:46:14opposite she says do you have any method
9:46:17of disconnecting the negative emotion
9:46:19that others close to you create from
9:46:21time to time sometimes um people your
9:46:25kids or your spouse do off course
9:46:28because they expect you to fail how do
9:46:31you prevent other people's negativity
9:46:34from getting you off course
9:46:38uh you know uh we should we should
9:46:40really and truly give that some thought
9:46:43because the minute that you declare that
9:46:46you're going to win something there's
9:46:48always somebody that's going to say what
9:46:51makes you think you can win it or ha haa
9:46:55you never won it or look at the
9:46:58competition you have well that is
9:47:02negative there and uh it really and
9:47:05truly makes you have to to work harder
9:47:08longer and stronger to guard off that
9:47:11negative feeling this is the reason I
9:47:14never told anybody um what I was working
9:47:18toward now I granted the night that I
9:47:21was in at the dance this was sort of a
9:47:24funny thing and uh usually I don't tell
9:47:27people what I'm working toward I don't
9:47:30give them an opportunity to be negative
9:47:33and if uh you're working and all of a
9:47:37sudden this negative thing comes and
9:47:39says what makes me think I'm going to
9:47:41win it uh you better believe somebody
9:47:44else is projecting that energy for
9:47:47toward you and when that comes to your
9:47:50mind you can only think of one thing at
9:47:53a time you just say cancel cancel or
9:47:57deliberately say but I am a winner I
9:48:01know I'm going to win and then go ahead
9:48:04and boost yourself up again don't don't
9:48:07waste that energy you've got the energy
9:48:10you work with energy at all
9:48:14times MH so what you're saying is really
9:48:18keep it to
9:48:19yourself yes until until you have enough
9:48:22confidence I'm flipping I'm flipping now
9:48:26and uh I just say Okay want this or
9:48:30whatever and uh my my son here who is so
9:48:35good at picking up every time it's
9:48:38hilarious absolutely hilarious this
9:48:41morning he came in to bring in the mail
9:48:44and this morning I'm thinking of
9:48:46cherries oh I'd love to have some
9:48:49cherries and I know they're out of
9:48:51season and can you believe the kid came
9:48:54in and uh plunked a bag of
9:48:58cherries on in the kitchen cabinets and
9:49:02he said I was grocery shopping this
9:49:05morning and I kind of figured you'd like
9:49:08some of these
9:49:09cherries so was that his or idea or mine
9:49:13it was my idea and he picked it up uh
9:49:17when you're in close proximity with
9:49:19people uh it can be a very it could be
9:49:23an ongoing thing and it seems to be that
9:49:27way with my son so we have fun in games
9:49:30here all the time mhm I see what you
9:49:33mean now now in in
9:49:37in the case of of the first question I
9:49:39asked you the person um her solution
9:49:41would be to Simply keep her goals her
9:49:43intentions private but what if what if
9:49:47even if you were private about what you
9:49:48were trying to manifest there was
9:49:50someone in your life who was a negative
9:49:52influence now this question comes from
9:49:54Kathy she says is it possible to turn a
9:49:57relationship that's going nowhere around
9:49:59I'm 52 I've been seeing a man for nearly
9:50:013 years he's a workaholic he's stubborn
9:50:04and this relationship is going nowhere
9:50:06and he refuses to pay attention to me
9:50:08I've threatened that I want that I'm
9:50:09going to start dating other people he
9:50:10says he's going to turn his life around
9:50:12it doesn't happen I'm confused can I
9:50:15choose to influence his behavior to turn
9:50:18this relationship around with my own
9:50:23mind uh you have the principles there
9:50:27how important is it to you do you really
9:50:31want it or have you outgrown this person
9:50:34you never can change anybody don't even
9:50:37try uh you can project and they can
9:50:41accept it or reject it and no you're
9:50:45never able to influence anybody I
9:50:48wouldn't even uh I wouldn't even attempt
9:50:51that on material things yeah it's okay
9:50:55but to talk to a person and convince
9:50:58them on something that's
9:51:01ongoing uh is it worth it how is how
9:51:05much is it worth it how much do you
9:51:07really and truly want it or have you
9:51:10outgrown it uh he has his own
9:51:13personality and so do you and even if
9:51:17you are married uh there's going to be
9:51:19things that are going to be coming up
9:51:21constantly you're not compatible in all
9:51:24areas those are just story books real
9:51:28life let's face it uh life happens one
9:51:32darn thing right after another and how
9:51:35you pursue it or how you look at it
9:51:39that's entirely up to
9:51:41you and um Kathy Kathy goes on to write
9:51:45this is the second part of her question
9:51:46she she wrote a a fairly long email I am
9:51:48confused as to what I should be
9:51:50selecting should I be selecting that our
9:51:52relationship has turned around and that
9:51:54we are both sharing many wonderful and
9:51:56awesome moments together and that our
9:51:58relationship that move to a higher
9:51:59ground or should I be selecting that I'm
9:52:02attracting someone else who can give me
9:52:04what I want my greatest wish is for this
9:52:06relationship that I've had for the last
9:52:083 years to grow in Blossom but what do I
9:52:11do so in this in this scenario Helen
9:52:14what would you advice to Kathy Dian and
9:52:16by the way this is a different Kathy
9:52:17this is Kathy with a K uhhuh well I uh
9:52:21when someone comes up and uh in my
9:52:24counseling capacity and asks uh what um
9:52:28I want this this particular man and uh
9:52:32what can I do to get him Etc and so
9:52:34forth uh there is a set a quest there is
9:52:37a set what I would say petition to this
9:52:41I would recommend you say I would like
9:52:45the perfect man with light interests to
9:52:50gravitate to me and that's all I would
9:52:54say if you're going to be specific he's
9:52:57got to have long hair and drive a
9:52:59Cadillac or whatever uh this will
9:53:02manifest uh uh down the road how how
9:53:06important it is to you uh I would
9:53:10be comfortable getting the Perfect Mate
9:53:14with like
9:53:15interests and of course that's just me
9:53:18because I happen to have the Perfect
9:53:20Mate for for 60 years and yes we worked
9:53:24at it sure there's always little uh
9:53:27areas that need to be addressed but it's
9:53:31been a fun fun life so what you're
9:53:34wanting is the perfect
9:53:37with like
9:53:38interests now if it's the guy that
9:53:40you're uh currently seeing or there
9:53:43might be somebody else out there that
9:53:45will fill your needs you have to ask
9:53:49what is it that you
9:53:50want you want this guy or do you want
9:53:53the perfect guy with like
9:53:55interests I can't give you an answer on
9:53:58that one I I I think I think you just G
9:54:02I think you just gave a perfect answer
9:54:04now um in Kathy situation are you trying
9:54:08to say that if she if she used the style
9:54:12of positive statement that you just said
9:54:14I want the perfect man with light with
9:54:16light interest does just mean that
9:54:17either she would manifest a new person
9:54:21or that her current boyfriend would
9:54:24change in terms of his behavior towards
9:54:27her that's what is uh that's what makes
9:54:31life so
9:54:32exciting if he is the perfect M mate
9:54:35with like interests and then there she
9:54:39she already has that or if or it might
9:54:43be another person but this is her this
9:54:46is what she wants now and how important
9:54:50is it to her if it's that important then
9:54:53I would continually project for it
9:54:56perfect perfect and this brings us to
9:54:58our next question it's on life purpose
9:55:01versus what you want this question comes
9:55:03from Francisco and what Francisco says
9:55:06this uh she's having a little bit of
9:55:09difficulty understanding how spec
9:55:12relates to this particular philosophy
9:55:14the philosophy is just philosophy is is
9:55:16the idea that if you set a goal and that
9:55:18goal is not aligned with your higher
9:55:20self no matter what you do uh no matter
9:55:23how powerfully you use the spec formula
9:55:26it will not happen because you're not
9:55:27meant to get it uh because of the deeper
9:55:30soul level there's something else that
9:55:32you're meant to do for example if a
9:55:33person wants to be a professional
9:55:35football player and is really meant to
9:55:37be a spiritual uh teacher um that his
9:55:41higher self will not allow his dreams of
9:55:43being a football player to manifest so
9:55:45Francisco wants to know what are your
9:55:47views on this philosophy uh do you agree
9:55:50with him um do you agree with the idea
9:55:54that you cannot manifest anything it has
9:55:56to be something that is in tune with
9:55:58your higher
9:55:59self oh that's such a good question and
9:56:02I'm so glad he asked that uh this is the
9:56:06reason uh when I when I deal with people
9:56:10or talk to people and so forth I always
9:56:13ask them their birth dates and uh when
9:56:16you figure out your birth date uh at the
9:56:20end I mean you know uh month day year uh
9:56:24then you have what I call your mission
9:56:26this lifetime and I have found that to
9:56:30be so so credible because uh what is
9:56:34your mission you say you want to be a
9:56:36basball player or you want to do this or
9:56:39that but maybe your mission is to be an
9:56:42actor or may to be an artist or to be a
9:56:47a Pioneer where go to go where no man's
9:56:49gone before uh when you find out your
9:56:53mission you are going to it's it's just
9:56:56so exciting you're going to uh gravitate
9:57:01toward what you came into this lifetime
9:57:03to do and it's going to be very very
9:57:07satisfying this doesn't mean that you
9:57:09can't be a football player you can go
9:57:11ahead uh go ahead and do it but to
9:57:15really and truly be comfortable and and
9:57:20just I I would say
9:57:22Blissful is when you're doing what
9:57:24you're supposed to be doing when you
9:57:27know what your mission this lifetime is
9:57:31so that's that would be my
9:57:34answer my lifetime is to be an
9:57:37adventurer okay and that's what it's
9:57:40been some are meant to be a writer and
9:57:43when you write it there's such a feeling
9:57:47of oh I finally found my place in the
9:57:50sun in the fun and you take it from
9:57:54there so what you're saying Helen is you
9:57:56can manifest anything you want it's just
9:57:58that if you choose something that is
9:58:00aligned with your mission it tends to be
9:58:03more of a downhill Journey rather than
9:58:05an uphill Journey that's right that's
9:58:07right you can still manifest it but uh
9:58:11your mission is the one that's going to
9:58:13be rewarding gratifying and
9:58:16satisfying got it okay and let's go on
9:58:19to the next question and this is from
9:58:21Richard Helen he says I have read that
9:58:24emotion plays a large part of
9:58:26manifesting how do you cater your
9:58:29emotions how do you use them to
9:58:31facilitate the manifesting process and
9:58:33can you give examples of this
9:58:37emotion gosh uh I I always say I I want
9:58:43it so bad I can taste it that's an
9:58:46emotion yes emotion can be very very uh
9:58:51what I call Beneficial there's an
9:58:54excitement there there's a feeling of
9:58:56knowing and there's just a a feeling of
9:58:59laugh when you get it it's emotion does
9:59:04it it's more of abundant energy is what
9:59:07it is and so if you can do things
9:59:11emotionally uh it
9:59:13manifests
9:59:16faster right what you're talking about
9:59:18when you say emotions I take it is is
9:59:19feelings of joy happiness positive
9:59:22expectancy is that what you mean yes
9:59:25uhhuh and uh I I also emotion can be
9:59:30hate hate fear Envy jealousy pain these
9:59:34are all emotions
9:59:37and one segment in I my book I want to
9:59:40uh clarify here I said uh when we have a
9:59:44physical discomfort which is called pain
9:59:47uh there there's where you're going to
9:59:49get some feedback kids when you have
9:59:52this pain and you concentrate on the
9:59:55pain it comes and surges of
10:00:00almost almost can knock you out that's
10:00:03you're giving pain
10:00:06more energy by concentrating on it when
10:00:10you change that pain to
10:00:14Healing the same pulsation is there but
10:00:17it's completely different it feels like
10:00:21surges surges and all of that intense
10:00:25intense pain is gone and you've got
10:00:28surges and surges of healing uh I
10:00:32recommend this you know in child birth
10:00:35uh when you're having tooth challenges
10:00:38because the mouth seems to be so
10:00:40sensitive there or when you hurt
10:00:43yourself and immediately rub it and say
10:00:46healing healing healing healing and all
10:00:49of that throbbing of of uh hurt energy
10:00:55dissipate because you've changed the
10:00:57energy now into
10:01:01healing did that cover that mhm yes yes
10:01:05okay now now now Richard goes on to
10:01:08ask
10:01:11um how do you deal with feelings of
10:01:14guilt when you are trying to manifest
10:01:16something big that you think might help
10:01:19you in your life but do you to past
10:01:21programming or whatever you feel guilty
10:01:23about asking for it how would you deal
10:01:25with that
10:01:27situation well there uh you might call
10:01:29it the con
10:01:32job I say uh I would write this down
10:01:36I would say in the
10:01:39past I had the idea that I was not
10:01:44worthy of something I
10:01:48refuse to live in the
10:01:50past and when you repeat that or when
10:01:54you say it over and over again and then
10:01:57that guilt feeling is
10:02:00dissipated I had to do this quite often
10:02:03uh when I do counseling and that's I
10:02:06even write it down on a piece of paper
10:02:09and give it to that person and say keep
10:02:12looking at this because you're living in
10:02:14the past and we're in the now and you
10:02:19are worthy of whatever it is you want to
10:02:23deal to have don't live in the past I I
10:02:26like that and I I I like that
10:02:28exercise now this this leads to another
10:02:31question this is um it's actually also
10:02:34by Francisco now he he ask some pretty
10:02:36deep questions now here's the second
10:02:38question she
10:02:40says um Helen in your course can you
10:02:45clarify how to deal um with past
10:02:48programming that is negative in nature
10:02:51for instance uh you may consciously set
10:02:54an intention to be wealthy but at the
10:02:55same time you may have a subconscious
10:02:57programming that says money is the root
10:02:59of all evil rich people are selfish now
10:03:02if you have this past programming
10:03:04there's a part of you that will sabot
10:03:06your desire to attract more wealth so
10:03:10how do you deal with this path
10:03:12programming how do you get rid of
10:03:14it would it would it be the same the
10:03:16same process yes uhhuh the same I mean
10:03:20that would be that's very very effective
10:03:23incidentally uh just write it down write
10:03:27it down in the past I had this feeling I
10:03:32refused to live in the
10:03:33past and you can um but keeping positive
10:03:38words with it but I'm telling you it
10:03:40works it's very very very
10:03:44effective yes and I I just want to I
10:03:46just want to share one thing over here a
10:03:49lot of the people who who buy the
10:03:51winning stage program especially given
10:03:53the current situation in the US one of
10:03:55the deepest desires they have right now
10:03:57is to be financially secure or even to
10:04:00be wealthy but what I've noticed about a
10:04:02lot of people and I used to teach I used
10:04:04to teach the Sila class so I've noticed
10:04:06a lot of people have a negative attitude
10:04:10towards well they believe rich people
10:04:11are bad they they believe money is the
10:04:13root of all evil some of them have
10:04:15really silly beliefs such as they would
10:04:17feel guilty if they were making more
10:04:20money than their parents for whatever
10:04:21reason they feel it's bad to be earning
10:04:23more than their parents or than their
10:04:26neighbors or their Community what I
10:04:28found is that is that these past
10:04:31programming is one of the biggest
10:04:32reasons people are trapped in poverty or
10:04:35in dep and uh being able to eliminate
10:04:37these pth
10:05:04programmingsoftware just it now let
10:05:06we'll we'll we'll move on to the uh the
10:05:08the next question unless you have
10:05:10anything else to add on on this
10:05:13subject uh yes um it's difficult in this
10:05:16time because you're picking up the mass
10:05:19energy the mass thinking of the majority
10:05:23of people now and you are when you're
10:05:26sensitive you're picking this up uh even
10:05:29on the radio or on the television and so
10:05:32forth I just block it out just simply
10:05:35block it out and uh if it takes you're
10:05:39reading that over then do
10:05:41it I think that should cover
10:05:45it now this question regards um it's
10:05:49related again to what we've been talking
10:05:51about it's about getting out of dep and
10:05:53it comes from uh um Quinn now Quinn's
10:05:57situation is this if someone is
10:05:59currently in depth well his question is
10:06:01if someone is currently in depth what
10:06:03would be the best way to use the
10:06:05knowledge in Helen DVD and book um to
10:06:08help them come out of that I apologize
10:06:12if this is an odd question it's just
10:06:14that I'm currently struggling and would
10:06:16like to get out it feels as though I'm
10:06:18sinking deeper and deeper and that's one
10:06:20of the main reasons I purchased this
10:06:22program Mrs
10:06:26Hansel wow is all I can say on that one
10:06:31uh you're wanting instant
10:06:33gratification it took you long time to
10:06:36get into that hole probably by
10:06:40overspending and and and so forth so
10:06:43it's going to take a little while I mean
10:06:45it's not an overnight
10:06:47thing you you created it now you
10:06:51uncreated and it may take a little while
10:06:54and it may be like spoon feeding but
10:06:57it's it's possible it's possible but in
10:07:00the meantime you can also uh what I
10:07:04could say visualize yourself being free
10:07:08and out of debt happy and content and
10:07:12there's no time period on that because
10:07:15see you created all this now you
10:07:18uncreate it but you want to have a
10:07:21stepping up process then go see yourself
10:07:25as being uh sitting there and uh
10:07:29everything is is taken care of and
10:07:31everything is balanced because when
10:07:34you're balanced
10:07:35financially physically and spiritually
10:07:39there's such a good good good feeling
10:07:42and I'm sure you don't have that now
10:07:44because of all the deck and of all the
10:07:47pressure but who caused that you did you
10:07:50did to start out with so now undo it and
10:07:54get back in track to become normal I
10:07:58mean to be uh what I would say
10:08:03balanced not what you wanted to hear kid
10:08:07but uh you put yourself there now it'll
10:08:10take a little while to get out of it
10:08:12right and and and for everyone who's
10:08:14listening who might be in this situation
10:08:15it is a tough situation what typically
10:08:17happens is because you are in a feeling
10:08:20of depth of a feeling of lack what
10:08:23happens is even if when you try to manif
10:08:25more money the the stress the the
10:08:29negativity the uh the your spouse
10:08:31complaining to you about being in that
10:08:33situation of depth uh not being able to
10:08:35afford things you want those negative
10:08:38Vibes pull you down and you're
10:08:41constantly stuck in your current reality
10:08:44um now there are steps to get out but it
10:08:46does take a while I I would like to re
10:08:48Helen if I may I would like to recommend
10:08:50some some programs uh uh um three
10:08:53programs that people might want to look
10:08:55into um that are compatible with spec
10:08:57that might help them with this
10:08:58particular situation so so the first is
10:09:01go to the website the sgr program
10:09:05sgr stands for science of getting rich
10:09:08it's a title of an old book by Wallace
10:09:10watles written in the 1910s again it's D
10:09:13sgr program.com they have a free
10:09:15seven-part course um sign up for that
10:09:19course and this course talks about
10:09:21shifting your mental attitude uh towards
10:09:24acquiring wealth or coming out of depth
10:09:26I helped co-author the course with with
10:09:29my friend Bob Proctor um and and and
10:09:32Jack Canfield so do check it out the sgr
10:09:35program.com and once again it's free the
10:09:37other thing I do want to recommend for
10:09:39people like Quinn or anyone else who
10:09:41might be stuck in depth is buy the book
10:09:43secrets of The Millionaire Mind by T har
10:09:46Becker what hav talks about is basically
10:09:49how to switch your mindset how to
10:09:52overcome past negative programming about
10:09:54money and how to come out of that and
10:09:57he'll give you a couple of step-by-step
10:09:59tips um how to gradually move out of it
10:10:02and move into a frame of mind Where You
10:10:04Are
10:10:05attracting money once again okay but now
10:10:08we'll go on with with some additional
10:10:10questions for Helen Helen is there
10:10:12anything else you'd like to add in
10:10:13regards to
10:10:15that I think you've covered all bases I
10:10:18mean it's a it's something that you have
10:10:20to read and accept and then do it just
10:10:25don't read it do something about it
10:10:28write it down get excited about it this
10:10:31is what I'm going to do now so you've
10:10:34got that energy to get
10:10:37started great great and and let's go on
10:10:40to another Pro to another serious issue
10:10:42that that a lot of people brought up and
10:10:44this is uh health issues now this
10:10:47question comes from Connie Connie's
10:10:50question is how do I use the spec system
10:10:53to help me get out of this uh uh Health
10:10:55situation I'm in right now basically
10:10:57Connie has an issue with constant
10:10:59migraines and headaches and uh she's
10:11:02wondering if she can use spec to help
10:11:04help heal
10:11:06herself uh definitely of course you know
10:11:09there's a lot of allergies now we're not
10:11:12going to say that uh everything is a
10:11:16miracle uh we are in a place here where
10:11:19there's allergies and you're allergic to
10:11:22this and allergic to that and there's
10:11:24medication that's
10:11:26necessary uh if it's NE if if that's
10:11:29what it takes to get you out of it and
10:11:32then I say well I'm not a doctor
10:11:34remember I'm just doing what I feel I I
10:11:40myself do I can share what I do but that
10:11:43doesn't mean I'm a doctor uh when I get
10:11:46a headache I sit there and all all I do
10:11:50is put my two fingers my thumb and my
10:11:56forefinger right between my nose and
10:11:59while I'm sitting there and rocking I'll
10:12:03just say it's gone
10:12:05gone
10:12:07gone
10:12:08gone and that's it I don't take asirin I
10:12:13I just don't take medication but that's
10:12:15me and I as I say every one of you is
10:12:19different every one of you has your
10:12:22ideas of what will heal you this is my
10:12:25idea this is my way of healing my
10:12:30headache it works for me now you take it
10:12:34if you want to or do whatever you want
10:12:36to with it so that's my answer wonderful
10:12:40thanks for sharing Helen now with that
10:12:42we'll we'll wrap up part one of the T
10:12:44seminar and uh we will be having several
10:12:47follow-up T seminars and for all of you
10:12:50listening in thank you for listening uh
10:12:52part one will be available uh as soon as
10:12:54we get this edited and up on the website
10:12:57and very soon we'll be launching part
10:12:59two as well thank
10:13:02you okay everyone we are back this is
10:13:05vishion Lani we're back with Helen hsel
10:13:07this is part two of our Tela seminar
10:13:09where we are asking Helen the biggest
10:13:11questions from the first 1,000 people
10:13:14who grabbed a whole of Helen's uh book
10:13:17and DVD um set the winning Sage so let's
10:13:21get on with the questions Helen now
10:13:23Helen how how are you feeling
10:13:25today fantastic fantastic okay well so
10:13:28let's start with the first question now
10:13:30this question comes from Alex and the
10:13:32question is as follows visualizing is
10:13:35fairly easy but how do you deal with
10:13:37that part of you that that voice in your
10:13:39headp that says this is pure nonsense
10:13:42this is just another Law of Attraction
10:13:44uh uh cor job it's all rubbish I believe
10:13:47in Helen I believe in the spec system
10:13:49but I have these negative voices in my
10:13:52head how do I silence these voices of
10:13:55skepticism so I can stay focused on my
10:13:59goal okay now I'm going to say this over
10:14:02and over and over again you can only
10:14:06think of one thing at a
10:14:10time only one thing at a time you're in
10:14:14control of your thinking if it's not
10:14:18positive
10:14:20creative then I would abort it and get
10:14:24back on track of thinking
10:14:28positively uh you know last last time we
10:14:32talked I had uh some something that I
10:14:35read about uh watch your thoughts they
10:14:38become words watch your words they
10:14:41become actions watch your actions they
10:14:44become habits watch your habits they
10:14:48become character watch your character
10:14:51for it becomes your destiny you know
10:14:54something uh when I when I said that the
10:14:57last time I can say I had about 15
10:15:02emails from people all walks of life I
10:15:06mean from all over the world really and
10:15:09they said I wrote that down and I kept
10:15:14looking at it and looking at it and
10:15:18realizing how potential how fantastic it
10:15:23is watch your thoughts and said it gave
10:15:27me a whole new lease on life thank you
10:15:29thank you thank you so I repeated it
10:15:32again and write it down kid if you
10:15:35didn't get it the first time
10:15:38mhm I like that now here's another
10:15:42question and it's it's it's somewhat
10:15:44similar um well at least it's related
10:15:47and it comes from Lynn she said I
10:15:49listened to the uh the first six
10:15:51chapters of the of DVD 1 uh and I
10:15:53understand that to expect means to not
10:15:56have doubt that something is coming my
10:15:58way but how do I relate the concept of
10:16:01expectancy to a specific time Horizon
10:16:04horon for example would it be correct
10:16:06for me let's say I'm trying to manifest
10:16:08a certain amount of money would it be
10:16:09correct for me to give it a deadline say
10:16:12February 28th
10:16:162009 uh when you do that when you first
10:16:19start out uh I'm going to tell you you
10:16:21you might get
10:16:22disappointed because it doesn't come on
10:16:24that date I I very seldom put a date on
10:16:29something and when I did in the past and
10:16:33it did not
10:16:35manifest uh do you know what I told
10:16:37myself okay there's no failure there's
10:16:40just a delay in my results and then I
10:16:43would continue to project and down the
10:16:46road it would come but it might not come
10:16:48on the 28th the day that I designated
10:16:52for it to come I see so what you're
10:16:54saying is don't worry about the deadline
10:16:56just set a goal understand that it's
10:16:58going to be coming yes yes soon uhhuh
10:17:01okay but but what if it takes forever
10:17:03what what is if um I mean they they
10:17:07there must be a way to reconcile
10:17:10this uh well you know majority of people
10:17:14are
10:17:15impatient Anda patience is a virtue just
10:17:19the thing so you cultivate patience
10:17:22that's all uh it
10:17:25uh I get uh on my email this humorous uh
10:17:30someone someone orders a book let's say
10:17:34and on the email when am I going to get
10:17:36it and when did you mail it out and this
10:17:39is p
10:17:41impatience I have no way of uh
10:17:44determining a date and an hour that
10:17:47she's going to receive it but there's
10:17:49still people out there that think they
10:17:52can do everything it's it's impossible
10:17:55you can do many many many things with
10:17:58your thoughts and your minds but there
10:18:00are
10:18:02limitations right unless I can tell
10:18:04teleported to you you know right I mean
10:18:07one when when when I hear a question
10:18:09like that one piece of advice that does
10:18:10come to mind is Jose Silva's advice um
10:18:13as you know he he he was a great friend
10:18:14of yours he had a line in his book um
10:18:17and and that that quote was don't jump
10:18:21the gun basically what he says is start
10:18:23with something small if your reservoir
10:18:25of faith is not yet strong enough start
10:18:27with something small and um when that
10:18:31comes to you you build up your reservoir
10:18:32of faith and you can go on to something
10:18:34big
10:18:34and then something bigger and then
10:18:36something bigger and you can manifest
10:18:38things faster but the point is start
10:18:40with something small that you believe
10:18:41can come to you any moment now don't
10:18:44start with something big that you think
10:18:47might take years for you to bring into
10:18:50your reality you want to start with
10:18:52something small get a small success
10:18:53build up your reservoir of state and
10:18:55then keep aiming for bigger and bigger
10:18:57and bigger things and that's how you can
10:18:59grow and and develop this ability to
10:19:01manifest new outcome very rapidly
10:19:04do you do do you agree with that oh
10:19:07definitely definitely definitely and I
10:19:10will tell you something uh when you
10:19:13cultivate this yes uh you will uh have
10:19:17this ability things will come to you
10:19:19faster and then you can say so what else
10:19:21is new you know almost become fluent
10:19:24with
10:19:25it but start out small
10:19:29yes wonderful okay well let's go on to
10:19:32this this question and uh this question
10:19:34is on illness and it comes from Scott
10:19:36Scott
10:19:38says how do you avoid the negative
10:19:41outcome that has been presented itself
10:19:42as a probability now what happened to
10:19:44Scott was he was diagnosed uh recently
10:19:47with a life-threatening disease uh he's
10:19:50wondering what he can do with spec to
10:19:53say beat the
10:19:56odds uh you know a number of years ago
10:20:00uh there was a book and I I met the man
10:20:03but I don't recall the book and he had
10:20:06um uh was working with cancer
10:20:09patients and he would um go ahead and
10:20:13whatever I mean let's say you had a
10:20:14tumor or something and you could
10:20:17manifest over and over and over again
10:20:20playing games of the good men and the
10:20:23bad men and all of a sudden uh the Good
10:20:27Men uh winning out and and eliminating
10:20:32this cancer it was very very powerful
10:20:35and very popular at that time I I'm sure
10:20:40that that system still works and
10:20:43whatever it is whatever challenge we
10:20:45have uh we're needing to do something
10:20:49about it and it never hurts I mean
10:20:52you're going to have um cons medical
10:20:54consultations etc etc and whatever it is
10:20:58if it's negative or it's limitating and
10:21:01then I would threaten it I would say
10:21:04what makes him think that I'm going to
10:21:08be uh
10:21:09inhabilitate what makes him think I
10:21:12refuse to be that way so there you're
10:21:15canceling that out already and uh I'm
10:21:18not saying uh that doctors aren't doing
10:21:21uh a great job they are but you're in
10:21:25control of your body kid it's your
10:21:28decision what do where do you want to go
10:21:30from here and I've seen miracles
10:21:34absolute Miracles performed in an
10:21:37attitude and it's difficult when you get
10:21:40negative negative negative because
10:21:43you're working here to eliminate all
10:21:46that be a
10:21:48miracle change the odds yes did did did
10:21:52did you ever get a chance to meet um Dr
10:21:55o Carl
10:21:56simonon yes Carl yes Carl yes that's who
10:22:00I was referring to yes he lived in Fort
10:22:02Worth uh he and his wife uh yes came to
10:22:06Jose n Jose yes yes I was just going to
10:22:10say for for for people listening people
10:22:11like Scott who might be facing a
10:22:13life-threatening disease um okar simonon
10:22:16is a doctor who came up with something
10:22:17called imagery therapy for cancer what
10:22:20he did was he found that he could teach
10:22:22cancer patients who had this obviously
10:22:24life serious life-threatening disease he
10:22:27could he would teach them specific
10:22:28visualization exercises and they would
10:22:31beat the odds they would go into what is
10:22:32called spontaneous Mission the cancer
10:22:34would disappear and they would go on to
10:22:36live long healthy lives now it didn't
10:22:38happen for all patients but it happened
10:22:40for significantly large number of them
10:22:43now okar Simon was a big fan of Silva in
10:22:45fact his wife uh him and his wife uh
10:22:47spoke at one of the Silva conventions uh
10:22:50I was not there I was probably a kid at
10:22:52that time but but Helen I think you may
10:22:54have been there one of the things they
10:22:55said is that Sila is one of the most
10:22:57powerful tools they have come um in
10:23:00terms of they come across in terms of
10:23:02imagery therapy so my advice to people
10:23:04like Scott is look up The Works of oal
10:23:07simonon uh you can Google that it's o
10:23:09space car c a r l space simonon s i m o
10:23:13n t o n uh and also look into the uh the
10:23:16Sila light system um uh which also talks
10:23:20about imagery therapy Helen do you do
10:23:22you have any stories about Carl or
10:23:24anything you wanted to add to
10:23:26that well I was very very impressed with
10:23:29this uh with with his work I and I know
10:23:32it's possible definitely possible and
10:23:36I'm always one that has to prove
10:23:38something to myself and so I did
10:23:41research and one of the things that we
10:23:44did I was up in New York and uh one of
10:23:47the girls that was a secretary had a
10:23:50challenge uh when she had back surgery
10:23:54hurt her back and then one of her feet
10:23:57was about two inches shorter than the
10:24:00other foot and when we got there I saidh
10:24:05don't we uh why don't we uh go ahead and
10:24:08practice what we what we're teaching and
10:24:11they all agreed this is at one of the
10:24:14seminars in New York and all of us all
10:24:18of us there were about a hundred so and
10:24:20so um decided that we were going to
10:24:24think about her every night and stretch
10:24:27her foot so it would become even with
10:24:31her other because this was an inch and a
10:24:33half
10:24:34shorter we worked with that and worked
10:24:37with that and thought it was a game
10:24:39really but the outcome and This is
10:24:42Gospel the outcome was that it was
10:24:47eventually it it seemed to be pulling
10:24:50and she could actually feel the pulling
10:24:53of it and now it's normal she walks
10:24:55normal not not by what sideways as she
10:24:59once did and this is a faell case so yes
10:25:04everything is possible but we now we had
10:25:07100 people working with that and I said
10:25:11that was our research project
10:25:14and and there's another one Laura Huxley
10:25:18has the book you are not the
10:25:21Target and in that she has some good
10:25:24material also and that was uh uh you
10:25:28know when something happens uh what is
10:25:31it there's another book bad things
10:25:33happen to good people uh well she um
10:25:36gives some good histories about you are
10:25:41not the target nobody's picking on you
10:25:45uh you've done this and you hate to
10:25:47admit that somewhere along the line you
10:25:50did it to yourself but let's face
10:25:53reality and facts if you did if you have
10:25:56done this you can undo
10:25:59it but I loved her book I recommend it
10:26:02very highly
10:26:04great great well let's go on to to to a
10:26:08a question in a different theme and this
10:26:11question actually comes all the way from
10:26:13from Malaysia from uh uh Chuan Po and
10:26:17what Chuan PO is asking is I have always
10:26:20dreamed about visiting Europe but I
10:26:22don't have the money to actually fly
10:26:24from Asia uh to Europe CU I come from a
10:26:26small South Asian country I would love
10:26:29to see the Mediterranean and bask in the
10:26:31Splendor and pump during in Spring what
10:26:35specific advice would I do how would I
10:26:37specifically apply the spec system to
10:26:40help me realize this dream of
10:26:42vacationing in the
10:26:45Mediterranean oh well there it's easy
10:26:47you've got you have your picture here
10:26:50and you already are there seeing
10:26:53yourself as being there so if there's a
10:26:55contest or an opportunity and I don't
10:26:58know if there are contests in your area
10:27:01I certainly would uh pursue that as a
10:27:05contest but I also would see myself as
10:27:08being there but uh the contest would be
10:27:11one of the means of getting there but
10:27:14don't don't let go of that dream if it's
10:27:16that important to you you'll be there
10:27:19basking in the Sun and enjoying it
10:27:22you'll be there now now now in a
10:27:25situation like this Helen where where
10:27:27someone like schan Po um obviously he
10:27:30has this dream but he doesn't have the
10:27:31finances to get there uh can you give us
10:27:34some examples of how things might
10:27:36manifest for him I mean from your life
10:27:38because I know you've won how many trips
10:27:39to Europe have you won I I I I don't
10:27:43recall because my son's also won trips
10:27:47okay so all together yes five six or
10:27:49whatever wow that's that's pretty cool
10:27:51but how might things manifest for
10:27:53someone like Schwan po I mean obviously
10:27:55he he may not have the money for
10:27:58it okay we talked about this earlier I
10:28:02said see your yourself is already being
10:28:05there continuously see yourself as
10:28:08already being there read about the
10:28:11material uh just actually it's a
10:28:15visualization and it's a desire and it's
10:28:18so so strong you never know what happens
10:28:22and I'm sure you're still young so
10:28:25you've got this whole life ahead of you
10:28:29and uh who you're you're going to be
10:28:31there kid you're going to be there and
10:28:34just see yourself as already being there
10:28:37that important to you hang on to it
10:28:39that's a dream that's a good
10:28:41dream great now this question comes from
10:28:46uh Annette and uh the question is so
10:28:50let's say I want to win a particular
10:28:52contest how many times should I enter if
10:28:55I don't win the first time do I keep
10:28:56entering how does that process
10:28:59work uh well remember in the contest
10:29:03there are so many many many
10:29:06contests and if you enter something and
10:29:10in my book I explain this if I didn't
10:29:13win from one person or one uh particular
10:29:16contest I keep entering the ones that
10:29:19are giving that prize until I win the
10:29:23prize and that's it these are
10:29:27opportunities and uh remember when I
10:29:30talked about the contest Queen and she
10:29:33has this book out that uh uh that there
10:29:38are contest of clubs all over the
10:29:41world and if you're really serious about
10:29:45entering contest to win prizes I would
10:29:49highly recommend you visit one of these
10:29:51clubs and sit there and maybe become a
10:29:55member there's it's just a desire is all
10:29:58they're doing but they're very very very
10:30:01successful I would was amazed when I
10:30:04went to the one here in Dallas a month
10:30:07or two ago when Caroline came from uh uh
10:30:12uh from Canada to visit me and so she
10:30:15has a book out that tells you uh every
10:30:20place that there is a a club meeting so
10:30:25that would be my answer for you I see so
10:30:28you really you you you really do think
10:30:31joining a contesting Club is a is a very
10:30:33important
10:30:34step yeah uhhuh people would like
10:30:37interests well of of
10:30:39course um they they have all the
10:30:42information they have the
10:30:44encouragement it's a fun fun thing you
10:30:47know for years when I first started I
10:30:50entered it I was a member of a club and
10:30:53I it was very very successful and
10:30:57rewarding because we were encouraging we
10:31:00were saying oh you want a trip well did
10:31:02you hear about this trip oh you want gas
10:31:05did you hear this did you hear this did
10:31:07you hear this and you can't hear
10:31:09everything but somebody's always on
10:31:11their toes and encouraging you and
10:31:14helping you and you in turn do the same
10:31:17thing that's initially how I won my
10:31:20house because when I got back uh from uh
10:31:24uh Europe and I went to the contest club
10:31:27and one of the gals said oh did you uh
10:31:30when you were in New York did you see
10:31:33the World's Fair house and I said no I
10:31:36was so busy uh my son had won a trip
10:31:39there and I I was so excited to get to
10:31:41Paris France for my birthday I I don't
10:31:44even know there was a contest for a
10:31:46house oh yes for m is giving this house
10:31:50away and uh she says locally you can
10:31:53enter it and uh you can go to Garland
10:31:56and put your name in the pop and that's
10:31:59what I
10:32:00did so this was I mean I did didn't have
10:32:03the information it came to me because uh
10:32:07the con one of the contest members um
10:32:10fued me in about
10:32:12it so if you're serious uh definitely
10:32:15pursue it how serious are you it's up to
10:32:19you well perfect and you know what Helen
10:32:21you just answered uh in advance a
10:32:23question I was about to ask this came
10:32:25from someone in Southern California
10:32:27called The Cosmic coach and she said she
10:32:28in a group of Spirited souls in Southern
10:32:30California looking to start a contesting
10:32:32Club where can they get advice on this
10:32:35and and you just answered it the the the
10:32:37answer is look up um the book by Queen
10:32:41yes Carolyn Wilman the contest Queen and
10:32:43her website is contest queen.com and uh
10:32:46you can get information from there oh
10:32:48yes definitely okay well let let's go on
10:32:50to uh uh the next question and right now
10:32:53we're moving more towards questions on
10:32:56contesting this question comes all the
10:32:58way from Gabriella uh in Denmark um her
10:33:02question is
10:33:03the landscape has changed and now there
10:33:05are lot of converations and sweet stakes
10:33:07and a lot of on the internet um is your
10:33:09advice to say does anything change uh to
10:33:13to take advantage of the way contesting
10:33:15has changed over the last 5
10:33:18years oh definitely uh it has changed
10:33:22you know that one time it was U uh you
10:33:24had to write 25 words or less this was a
10:33:27contest now there's sweep stakes and
10:33:30sweep Stakes you know you can ENT
10:33:33uh simply on the internet uh and there
10:33:37is a method and I'm not familiar with it
10:33:39because I'm really not interested in
10:33:42material things anymore you know I'm
10:33:44jaded I outgrew all that but lot lot of
10:33:48these young
10:33:49enthusiastic uh people that are needing
10:33:51and wanting these things they're
10:33:53available to you uh there's a method and
10:33:57Carolyn can uh when she came here she
10:34:00showed it to me instead of entering your
10:34:02name one time and then going and
10:34:05entering it again and again uh and it's
10:34:08it's time consuming she has this little
10:34:12technique where you can uh enter I'd say
10:34:15about 40 or 50 contests that are now
10:34:18going on in about 15 20 minutes I I sat
10:34:23here absolutely amazed how efficient and
10:34:28effective you can uh get on the email
10:34:31and enter these contests that are
10:34:33available and yes prizes are always won
10:34:37uh they're legitimate and they're
10:34:40serving a purpose because they're uh
10:34:42what they're they're promoting their
10:34:45products and so uh that's a wonderful
10:34:48wonderful way to get a lot of little
10:34:51stuff and I repeated this last time and
10:34:54about repeat it again uh when I visited
10:34:57the group that were in the Dallas
10:34:59contest that met in Irving this was in
10:35:02no November and they stood up and it was
10:35:05not uncommon for them to say nine or 10
10:35:09prizes in one month and they all sounded
10:35:12lucrative because at that time gas
10:35:15was outrageous in price and somehow they
10:35:20they kept winning gas and I just sat
10:35:22there and kind of laughed and thought
10:35:25God I'd well I wouldn't get into it
10:35:28anymore because I have other interests
10:35:30now but if that's your main interest
10:35:32then go for it kid go for it now I know
10:35:36uh a bunch of people are asking well
10:35:38Helen's now saying that she has other
10:35:39interests what are her other interests I
10:35:42I thought we should segue for a moment
10:35:43here Helen I I wanted to share with the
10:35:45audience one of the things you shared
10:35:46with me uh about how you're now giving
10:35:49away a lot of the uh the profits you
10:35:51make from your Blueprints and such to uh
10:35:52to a feat the children charity could you
10:35:55could you say a little bit about that
10:35:57well uh there's a place in Fort Worth
10:35:59that uh uh feeds the homeless and of
10:36:03course I think now it's a dollar a meal
10:36:05or something like that that's my pet
10:36:08charity right now it changes last year
10:36:12it was to buy glasses uh you know uh for
10:36:16children that were not able and this was
10:36:18Lion's Club and so it changes uh
10:36:22throughout the years I know when my
10:36:24husband and I were here together we
10:36:27would go to Dallas and get shoes for
10:36:30everybody uh there was a uh a man that
10:36:32owned a shoe store and we would
10:36:35generously donate uh when he went around
10:36:38to find to get you know to Pur choose on
10:36:41people so everything is different and
10:36:44then uh locally here in the college um I
10:36:48mean in the High School uh I have some
10:36:50friends there that teach and if they
10:36:53come and say somebody needs a a a suit
10:36:57to graduate or whatever I just simply
10:37:01this is what I do it's not on one one
10:37:05big thing it's on little things and I'm
10:37:08drawn to it uh yes I get a lot of emails
10:37:13uh my husband has cancer my daughter has
10:37:15this so and so has this and so forth and
10:37:19it goes on and on and on and I read the
10:37:22an I read the uh emails but they're so
10:37:25depressing and so negative and well
10:37:29before I turn the email off I uh I can't
10:37:33answer them all really because they're
10:37:35just overwhelming but believe me I send
10:37:38love and energy to every one of them so
10:37:42that's all I can do I mean you can't
10:37:45pick and start out uh one thing at a
10:37:48time I choose where I want to uh put the
10:37:52put my
10:37:53money does that answer your question
10:37:55absolutely absolutely now now now I I
10:37:58have my opinion on this but I'm curious
10:38:00to know what what you think is giving
10:38:03away the charity or or helping a worthy
10:38:06cause uh does that in any way help speed
10:38:10up the rate at which you manifest things
10:38:12and desires for yourself and if so
10:38:16wi well the only thing that I have found
10:38:20and that is I feel good about being able
10:38:24to do that it's a feeling of uh of well
10:38:29satisfaction and uh that I did something
10:38:32to help somebody else that's my reward I
10:38:36don't think of another reward I have an
10:38:39uncle I mean I have a brother-in-law in
10:38:43uh Austin that does this uh goes every
10:38:47morning to the um grocery stores
10:38:50bakeries and things gets all the baked
10:38:52goods and puts it now this guy is 80
10:38:56five four years old every morning at
10:39:004:00 gets up and gets all this Bakery
10:39:03goods and puts it in his truck and goes
10:39:07from soup kitchen to church that has
10:39:10open meetings to feed the poor in the
10:39:13parish goes there every solitary morning
10:39:18and gives this uh this uh uh bread and
10:39:23rolls and stuff and what is his reward
10:39:26he I talked to him and he said uh it
10:39:30makes me feel good and he said you know
10:39:32know something Sunday in church I'm
10:39:35walking out of church and a man comes up
10:39:38to me and gives me a $100 bill and says
10:39:42listen you need gas money for what
10:39:44you're doing and use this for your gas
10:39:47money and he said I just was
10:39:50overwhelmed that someone would think
10:39:52about he said it doesn't worry my gas
10:39:55doesn't worry but it evidently made this
10:39:58man feel good and so that's my gas money
10:40:02and and so uh this is something
10:40:04beautiful that this man has done for the
10:40:07last 15
10:40:09years that's a very beautiful story and
10:40:12uh uh I I completely agree my my take on
10:40:15it is when you're giving to someone else
10:40:16or giving to a charitable cause uh what
10:40:18tends to what tends to happen is that
10:40:21you tend to put yourself in a frame of
10:40:23mind where you feel abundance because of
10:40:27course to give something away you must
10:40:28already have it so you put yourself in a
10:40:30frame of mind where you feel abundance
10:40:31and for you allow more abundance to flow
10:40:34to
10:40:35you yes so i' I've noticed that that in
10:40:38that in in my case as well uh what we've
10:40:40started doing uh with our web businesses
10:40:42uh and here I'm talking about Fin mines
10:40:44our first development blog what we've
10:40:46started doing is giving a lot of uh uh
10:40:49money away uh right now the ca that we
10:40:51are supporting is burmes refugees in
10:40:53Southeast Asia uh lot of these people
10:40:56are go through really really really
10:40:57tough times almost slavery uh and we are
10:41:01are funding nonprofits that help with
10:41:04education and and and services to help
10:41:07these people um immigrate uh immigrate
10:41:10as refugees to to the United
10:41:13States well see I'm not a finance here
10:41:17so my my U my contributions are more
10:41:22personalized and smaller than the big
10:41:24grandios you know the ones that I have
10:41:27making lots of money but I'm I I'm just
10:41:31pi and choosing what I feel uh is uh
10:41:36important I don't I can't uh really
10:41:39explain it but it's a good feeling I'm
10:41:42working on something now that may sound
10:41:45uh mundane or whatever but I I've heard
10:41:49now that someone is needing a a stove
10:41:52and what I'm doing is uh seeing that she
10:41:55gets the stoves I mean you know these
10:41:58These are little things around the
10:42:00neighborhood don't have to go to Africa
10:42:03or Indonesia or whatever uh to do
10:42:06anything how about locally doing things
10:42:10for the good Absol and that's where I'm
10:42:12at absolutely okay now let let's go on
10:42:16to um to the next question and uh this
10:42:20question is is by Ruth and it's on the
10:42:23topic of
10:42:24expectancy so Ruth asks what does the
10:42:27feeling of expectancy with certainty
10:42:30feel like I understand the spe process
10:42:32but I seem to get bared down with the
10:42:34final uh uh part of it um e which is
10:42:38expectancy I feel like I'm always second
10:42:40guessing the outcome or looking for it
10:42:42in some way at a particular
10:42:44time how can you know when you have
10:42:47something that you've selected and
10:42:49projected how do you know that that is
10:42:51about to arrive how do you let go of it
10:42:53and relax and simply expect
10:42:57it again that's a feeling honey I mean I
10:43:01just uh
10:43:03let's say I'm in the kitchen doing
10:43:04dishes and the thought comes to my mind
10:43:07and to expect is knowing that it's
10:43:10already done are just like when are they
10:43:14going to let us know that I won this
10:43:17when are they going to let us know this
10:43:20or whatever it is it's when are they
10:43:23going to let us know
10:43:25feeling it's already done I've already
10:43:29given it enough energy now all I'm
10:43:32waiting for is to let them know let me
10:43:36know that I want it so it's a
10:43:39feeling and when you get that feeling
10:43:43and then it doesn't happen then keep on
10:43:45getting that feeling until it does
10:43:48manifest and then go on to something
10:43:51else the um the the the idea of
10:43:54expectancy also reminds me of a lot of
10:43:57what Jose Silva talks about in in the
10:43:59Silva method they talk about um
10:44:02desire belief and expectancy the three
10:44:05attitudes that help create success and
10:44:08um one of the things that that that Jose
10:44:10Silva talks about is again start with
10:44:12something small something believable
10:44:14don't jump the gun something that you
10:44:16believe can happen to you and you expect
10:44:19it to happen because you know it's very
10:44:21achievable uh as soon as that happens
10:44:23you build up your reservoir of faith and
10:44:24you can aim for Higher and Higher and
10:44:26Higher things but that's how you
10:44:28gradually build up your expectancy U but
10:44:31but if I Helen I I I just want to share
10:44:33a a short anecdote uh that might help
10:44:36someone like Ruth understand uh what the
10:44:39feeling the expectancy is like so here's
10:44:42uh here's an example let's say a good
10:44:44friend of yours um asks you to lend him
10:44:47some money and you lend this person
10:44:49money and um he promises to pay you back
10:44:52but a month goes by and he hasn't paid
10:44:55you back the $1,000 he owes you now
10:44:57you're obviously frustrated you're upset
10:44:59you're wondering what the the the the
10:45:01hell has this guy done to me he's taken
10:45:03advantage of our friendship um now you
10:45:06are obviously upset you are not
10:45:08expecting the money to come back come to
10:45:09you and that's why you have a feeling of
10:45:11frustration but let's say all of a
10:45:13sudden your friend calls you up and says
10:45:15hey Ruth I just had a change of heart
10:45:18and I decided that what I did was a
10:45:19really really really awful thing and I
10:45:22realized that I want to pay you back the
10:45:24money immediately so I am fedexing you a
10:45:27check and um here's the FedEx number and
10:45:30I'm also going to fax you a copy of the
10:45:32check and I'm going to f you the FedEx
10:45:35uh delivery receipt so you can you can
10:45:37track it online um and you'll be getting
10:45:39it in the next 48 hours now of course
10:45:41Ruth has not received the check yet the
10:45:43check has not gone to a bank she does
10:45:45not have the money but all of a sudden
10:45:47she's feeling joyful because she expects
10:45:50it to come in other words she knows the
10:45:52check is in the mail so it's really that
10:45:54feeling that we are aiming for the
10:45:56feeling where you are so certain you you
10:45:58so expect what you are seeking to come
10:46:01to you because you you know the check is
10:46:02in the mail and that is what we mean by
10:46:04expectancy so that's the feeling you
10:46:06want to cultivate now of course it's not
10:46:08easy it takes some practice so you want
10:46:09to start with small goals and slowly
10:46:11build this up but eventually you get to
10:46:13a stage where you're getting so many
10:46:15successes that whatever you set your
10:46:16mind on you expect it to happen and so
10:46:19it happens e the hips has a nice quote
10:46:21she says um there's a scale of emotions
10:46:24you want to feel uh hope is easier than
10:46:27doubt sorry hope is better than doubt
10:46:31expectancy is better than hope
10:46:32expectancy is the ultimate emotion but
10:46:34you start with doubt you gradually move
10:46:37that doubt into hope when you have a few
10:46:39successes and once you're really nailing
10:46:41it you move from Hope to expectancy so I
10:46:44I just thought I'd jump in with that
10:46:46there Helen anything to
10:46:49add yes that's excellent uh when I and
10:46:53this happened a number of years ago and
10:46:56uh there was a a group of people that
10:46:58invited me to come and ask so I I I gave
10:47:01him $400 wor of books and they were in
10:47:04dire need this was just another uh group
10:47:08of people that were sincere and in
10:47:11trying to raise the consciousness of
10:47:12people but uh they never paid that
10:47:17$425 so I came and he said he was going
10:47:20to mail me this check and uh he never
10:47:23did never mailed it so at the end of the
10:47:26year my husband said uh well let's write
10:47:29it off as a bad debt and that's that's
10:47:32what we'll do I said no he he told me he
10:47:35would pay it and he owes it to me and
10:47:39it's rightfully mine and would you
10:47:42believe that in my office I had this
10:47:46note and I said Glenn uh in his last
10:47:50name owes me this
10:47:54$425 because he said he would pay it and
10:47:57he owes it to me so the next year the
10:48:01next
10:48:02it's time again H and my husband said
10:48:04well let's write it off and I said no no
10:48:07no he owes this to me and I am intimate
10:48:13and do you know the third year there's a
10:48:17knock on my door and there stands Glenn
10:48:22smiling and he said you know I keep
10:48:24thinking about you and I still owe you
10:48:27this money and he said with interest now
10:48:31is
10:48:32$500 and he walked in and I gave him
10:48:35coffee and that was the end of it he was
10:48:38on traveling around the country but I
10:48:42got the money three years but he owed it
10:48:45to me now can you explain that I don't
10:48:49know all I know is he telepathically
10:48:52evidently got my message because this
10:48:55was something he owed I didn't give it
10:48:57to him does that answer your question
10:49:00absolutely abs absolutely so Helen at at
10:49:03this point we're at the end of the uh
10:49:05the second T seminar and um so do you
10:49:08have any final words of wisdom to wrap
10:49:11up yes I do I want people to know that
10:49:15there are three things that make life
10:49:19worthwhile and that is to feel useful by
10:49:23doing something to be loved by someone
10:49:28and to have something to look forward
10:49:32too and those are my three words of
10:49:35wisdom
10:49:36today and uh what what are you looking
10:49:39forward to in
10:49:422009 uh well gosh you know I'm so
10:49:45fortunate here I am so very very very
10:49:48fortunate that for some reason I am
10:49:51still wanting to be with on the on the
10:49:55uh Letterman show why do I want to be on
10:49:58this stupid Letterman show I really
10:50:01don't know until I get there but that's
10:50:03a goal that's a goal here and so we're
10:50:07going to see about
10:50:09that yeah it's G to be a and I'm I'm I
10:50:13am I am excited and waiting to see that
10:50:15happen I I am really in true I I am too
10:50:18really I'm giving it lots and lots of
10:50:21energy because I see myself sitting
10:50:23there beside the idiot and we're talking
10:50:26you know he's not uh well what something
10:50:30that uh comes to mind
10:50:32why do I want to see him well he's a
10:50:34skeptic number one I'm not trying to
10:50:36prove anything to him but anyway that's
10:50:40that's what I want to do and I'll talk
10:50:41about it further later on why it's so
10:50:44important to me right okay well good
10:50:46luck with that and I'm looking and uh
10:50:47and I wish you all the best for 2009 and
10:50:50to everyone listening in I wish you all
10:50:52the best as well and I hope you enjoy
10:50:53you enjoyed the tel seminar thank you
10:50:58everyone hello everybody this is Dr Joe
10:51:01Vitali welcome to another hypnotic gold
10:51:04audio moment and I have another
10:51:06collectible interview for you happening
10:51:08in just a moment I have somebody on the
10:51:10line that I've been wanting to reconnect
10:51:12with for some time we spoke a few years
10:51:14ago because of a blog post that I wrote
10:51:16about her out of print book at that time
10:51:19she was bombarded by emails thousands of
10:51:22them as I understand it maybe we'll get
10:51:24to talk about the story but what I'm
10:51:26talking about is back in the 1980s I
10:51:28read a lifechanging book called contest
10:51:32the name it and claim it game and it was
10:51:34written by Helen hadel build as the
10:51:37woman who wins every contest she enters
10:51:40contesting was a breakthrough book for
10:51:42me and many others in fact millions of
10:51:44others the book sold over three million
10:51:47copies and how it was sold is quite a
10:51:49marketing lesson and if I remember we'll
10:51:51talk about that on this interview too
10:51:53but what most people don't know is that
10:51:55the author is around and I have her on
10:51:57the phone let me make sure she's here
10:51:59Helen are you here I certainly am well
10:52:03you sound very bright and cheerful and
10:52:05energetic you ready to be talking to me
10:52:07for a little bit well of course of
10:52:09course well uh I understand that you're
10:52:1184 now is that correct yes yes do you
10:52:14mind talking about that some people are
10:52:17offended to mention their age not at all
10:52:19because even at this age I think life is
10:52:23still a daring Adventure or nothing well
10:52:25what's the secret to living the 84 and
10:52:28Beyond um I think um um a sense of humor
10:52:33I have this uh Joe I have this offbeat
10:52:37sense of humor and I I constantly amazed
10:52:41that
10:52:43people can't can't relate to it but
10:52:46anyway I keep trying well I know you you
10:52:49sent me your autobiography your
10:52:51self-published one a long time ago and I
10:52:53quoted from it because at the end
10:52:56somewhere in the book you say make every
10:52:57day special share a joke hum a song pass
10:53:00some special Joy along and if someone
10:53:03should come your way who doesn't share
10:53:04your joy today the hell with them that's
10:53:07right and I still I still think that's
10:53:11that's where it's at well I really
10:53:13appreciate you making time to be on the
10:53:14phone with me for the people who aren't
10:53:17understanding uh what this is all about
10:53:19or know you or your book we need to
10:53:21start at the beginning uh contesting has
10:53:24become a famous book which I now know is
10:53:26back in print what does even the name
10:53:28contesting mean it seems unusual if you
10:53:30don't
10:53:32U do sweep Stakes or lotteries what does
10:53:34contesting mean um when you enter a
10:53:37contest it entails writing 25 words 50
10:53:41words or an article or something like
10:53:44that and then sweep Stakes is simply uh
10:53:47signing your name and uh sending it out
10:53:51or right now sweep Stakes is all the
10:53:54rage on your computer and there are very
10:53:58few contests uh you'll find him
10:54:01sporadically in U uh a contest to to
10:54:05write an article for one of the
10:54:07magazines or um if there is uh someone
10:54:11looking for a slogan some of the radio
10:54:14contests um um Radio contest usually uh
10:54:19right now they'll say the sixth caller
10:54:21I'll take or the fifth caller and that's
10:54:24where where they get where you they're
10:54:27not constant winners they like to have a
10:54:29turnover I see well I want to make sure
10:54:32that my hypnotic Gold members know why I
10:54:34have you on this call while I want to
10:54:36why I want to interview you besides the
10:54:38success of your book and the success of
10:54:40you um you have used a particular
10:54:44technique or two it might have three or
10:54:45four parts to it I'd like you to talk
10:54:47about them as we get into this that have
10:54:49helped you win contest in fact as I
10:54:52understand it in 1982 you won over 5,000
10:54:55prizes is that correct
10:54:58no that's exaggerating well how many do
10:55:01you think in night or even over well I
10:55:04think uh one month uh I won a prize
10:55:08every day that one month you want a
10:55:10prize every day well that's every day
10:55:12yes uhuh but for 5,000 maybe uh you know
10:55:16if you want to count a deck of cards or
10:55:18a record or whatever uh but I didn't
10:55:21think that was big stuff you know well
10:55:23what what are some of the big things so
10:55:24that people are well all right uh I did
10:55:27win two cars I did uh win this F abulous
10:55:31home here in Los cenus in Irving wow
10:55:35great and that was a that was probably
10:55:37my my biggest prize and then uh of
10:55:40course as the children were growing up
10:55:43we uh uh we would only enter contests uh
10:55:46because um those lovely sponsors send us
10:55:50on our vacations like we were sent to
10:55:53Disney World Disneyland twice uh to the
10:55:57World's Fair in New York to Paris France
10:56:01uh
10:56:03uh uh well and dude ranches or whatever
10:56:07we wanted and then at the beginning of
10:56:10the year I would say where are where are
10:56:12we going to vacation this year and then
10:56:14the kids put would put their two cents
10:56:16worth in and if it was a dude ranch trip
10:56:20that's what I would concentrate on and
10:56:23this is where I want to go because
10:56:25you're not only a winner but you're
10:56:27using something in particular to win and
10:56:30you wrote about it the book contesting
10:56:32but I want you to share it with me and
10:56:33the other people on the call because
10:56:35this is a way to win in life it's not
10:56:39it's not just a way to win prizes or
10:56:41even though those are very impressive to
10:56:43win your own home or to trips to Europe
10:56:45or uh Disneyland or anything else that's
10:56:47all very
10:56:49impressive well I I I I put it down very
10:56:53simplistic and I call it Spec s p e c
10:57:00spec
10:57:01this means to select IT project it
10:57:06expect it and then collect it I love
10:57:11this okay and so um even if you have a
10:57:17delay in results as sometimes happen uh
10:57:21I'm getting all kinds of emails from all
10:57:23over this cotton picking world and they
10:57:26like they'll say if I buy if I buy your
10:57:29book will I win a house
10:57:32uh well I will uh right up front tell
10:57:36them my uh when you buy my
10:57:39book there's no way you can win a house
10:57:42unless you follow the principles how
10:57:47important is it to you how long do you
10:57:49want to project to win this house I mean
10:57:53it's some of these um some of these
10:57:56requests really and truly uh need to be
10:58:00explained in
10:58:01detail because a book no book is going
10:58:05to do it I don't care what kind of a
10:58:07book you read unless you apply the
10:58:09principles oh I totally agree with you
10:58:11I'm always telling people buying the
10:58:13book and reading the book is one thing
10:58:14many people don't even read them but to
10:58:16actually go and implement it to do
10:58:19it they complain that the book didn't do
10:58:23a thing for
10:58:24them I remember you know what book uh
10:58:28got me started and that was Vince and
10:58:30peels the power of positive thinking oh
10:58:34well listen I read that book thoroughly
10:58:37and the the things that stuck out there
10:58:39were um You can have anything you want
10:58:43provided you know what it is that's why
10:58:45I put on select it you know see yourself
10:58:49is having it which is projecting it and
10:58:53then expect it and then collect it and
10:58:56this is U this is how I really got
10:58:59started was with his book and what I was
10:59:03doing initially was trying to prove uh
10:59:06that uh that someone could do it if it
10:59:10was uh you know was it something he just
10:59:12wrote about or could I actually do it
10:59:15and this is fascinating I want to just
10:59:17digress for a second did you meet him
10:59:20because I know you met many different
10:59:21people and knew them personally Joseph
10:59:23Murphy and Jose Silva and Paul twitchell
10:59:26and uh no I didn't have the pleasure but
10:59:30um I do know when uh Dr Murphy came into
10:59:34Dallas uh to do a lecture he called me
10:59:37and he said Vincent Peele said I better
10:59:40not leave Texas without meeting me oh
10:59:44that's how we initially met and then yes
10:59:47Peele wrote about me in several of his
10:59:50books and some of the magazines you know
10:59:53Family Circle and uh some of the
10:59:55magazines that were popular at that
10:59:58time well let's go through these four
11:00:00steps here the very first one is Select
11:00:02it and that I think on the surface
11:00:05everybody should understand that means
11:00:07to choose what you want but is there
11:00:09more to it than that is there a way to
11:00:11refine it or do how detailed do you have
11:00:13to be when you select uh when that when
11:00:16someone starts out uh I know we all have
11:00:19I want to do this I want to do this I
11:00:21want to do this I think uh that you
11:00:24should start out with one
11:00:26goal and um I don't care how long it
11:00:29takes but start out with one particular
11:00:32thing that you're really it's really
11:00:35important to you then you write it down
11:00:39that's the first step you're going to
11:00:41select it the next step would be to
11:00:44project
11:00:46it mean there's many ways you can
11:00:48project it you can mentally see it and
11:00:52you know see if if it's a new car you
11:00:55want okay you're driving down and what
11:00:58kind of a car do you want um uh you're
11:01:01in traffic all the time so if if you
11:01:04want a robber or if you want a v
11:01:07whatever you want and you happen to see
11:01:09that car and then just say I'm going to
11:01:12have one just like it that that also is
11:01:15a
11:01:16projection also you can uh put a picture
11:01:20uh in a maybe in your car or maybe on
11:01:24your in your medicine uh on the mirror
11:01:27where you look in the morning uh these
11:01:30are all little areas uh we're working
11:01:33here with energy everything is energy
11:01:37thinking is energy so you are then
11:01:40projecting energy to that goal and it
11:01:44can be very subtle but this is what
11:01:46you're doing and now you have uh you
11:01:49have selected it you have projected it
11:01:53now after the projection there's uh
11:01:58expected okay because because now you
11:02:01you have the confidence you've given it
11:02:03enough energy you continue to do it
11:02:06until you collect it now when you
11:02:10collect it how long does that take uh
11:02:13you know what one night uh when we went
11:02:16to a dance and my husband and I went to
11:02:19a dance and there was a big boom box
11:02:21there and uh we got in the door and I
11:02:24told my husband I said well uh my
11:02:27daughter wanted that for Christmas and
11:02:29there's her Christmas
11:02:30present and so what it so
11:02:34happened at this place it was an
11:02:36engineering party my husband was an
11:02:38engineer we went to the um uh Christmas
11:02:42dance and everybody that knew that I was
11:02:45winning all the time and what they did
11:02:49Joe which people don't even know what
11:02:51they're doing I would um um as uh when
11:02:56we came in the door and we had to sign
11:02:58our name which we did and I Saidi want
11:03:01the moon box tonight and that woman just
11:03:04kind of looked sideways and she said
11:03:06it's probably yours and then as as the
11:03:09other people came in she said the
11:03:12hatchel are here tonight and they want
11:03:15uh she wants to win the boom box for her
11:03:19daughter well you know what happened
11:03:22everybody uh wouldn't didn't even try
11:03:26there was no contest or whatsoever oh
11:03:30cuz they looked at it and said well
11:03:31she's already won it and they gave me
11:03:35all their energy all their
11:03:38energy and then at the end of the night
11:03:40when it was time for the drawing and uh
11:03:43they had other um fruit cakes and other
11:03:46little uh prizes but this was the big
11:03:48one yes and uh so my husband's uh boss
11:03:53who was the M mcing the program said I'm
11:03:57not even going to draw the name because
11:03:59you'll think it's rigged and then one
11:04:02little woman came up and she says I'll
11:04:04draw the name and she drew the name and
11:04:07handed it to him and I won the Boon box
11:04:10amazing but no no it's not it's energy
11:04:14they're work this is energy they're
11:04:15working with and uh one of the stories
11:04:18that I also I want to convince people
11:04:23what they're doing because when I went
11:04:25to California I went a trip to
11:04:27California while I was out there I
11:04:29wanted to uh um get on the um Queen for
11:04:34day the art link letter show I wanted to
11:04:36meet art and um and uh we were also with
11:04:41Mary Tyler Moore and then uh there was
11:04:44another uh program and I don't even
11:04:47recall the name but I do know I had a
11:04:50free afternoon and I went in there and
11:04:53uh uh they were giving uh it was
11:04:57complicated and I don't think it lasted
11:04:59that long but it was kind of a pilot
11:05:01program but they had refrigerators and
11:05:04and freezers and dishwashers and
11:05:07televisions and so forth and I was just
11:05:09killing time to uh wait for my
11:05:12girlfriend to pick me up after she got
11:05:15off work and sat there and uh was
11:05:18listening to the people around me and
11:05:22this one woman and daughter said she's
11:05:25never won anything not never W anything
11:05:28well at that time my mother needed um a
11:05:31television uh she wanted a color
11:05:34television and so I projected and won
11:05:37this color television and told them to
11:05:40send it directly to South Dakota where
11:05:42my mother lived well this woman uh
11:05:45approached me and says gosh you're so
11:05:47lucky you won this television and I said
11:05:50well I said what what do you want to win
11:05:53and then she said a refrigerator and I
11:05:56said well why don't we play a game and
11:05:59then I sat there with the daughter and
11:06:02the mother and I said um there were
11:06:06small prizes that came up and I said
11:06:08first of all you have to uh they're
11:06:10going to put the prize there on the in
11:06:13the front on the board and I said
11:06:16secondly they are going to at random
11:06:18draw I mean choose someone from the
11:06:21audience which made it a little more
11:06:25complicated but with three of you
11:06:27working there uh there's no competition
11:06:30there and so I said well all project uh
11:06:33with the daughter and I will project
11:06:36that your mother they choose your mother
11:06:39for this um for the refrigerator she
11:06:43wanted uh well to make a long story
11:06:45short um we had a break for lunch and
11:06:49they had sand wiches and cokes because
11:06:51they wanted to keep you there and keep
11:06:52an audience there and I again said okay
11:06:56now let's keep on projecting for this
11:07:01and yes she won it she won it because we
11:07:05were working uh with so close and with
11:07:09energy and three of us together and I
11:07:12don't know what the rest of them were
11:07:14doing probably thinking the same thing
11:07:16I've never won anything or I'd like to
11:07:19win that so if you're there and you like
11:07:22to win it just say well pick choose me
11:07:25number one that's
11:07:27energy and so these are little things I
11:07:30learned along the way they that sound
11:07:32very powerful it sounds like they're
11:07:35working most people I think don't
11:07:37believe they can win anything they don't
11:07:39believe they can be successful they
11:07:40don't really believe they're going to do
11:07:42well with their business and isn't that
11:07:44a way of
11:07:46Unwin well of course that's negative
11:07:49anything just listen to people I think
11:07:53today I had about seven
11:07:55emails and uh I'm not belittling people
11:07:58because people are in all the uh areas
11:08:01of their life you know we have the
11:08:04infant Souls the young Souls the baby
11:08:07Souls mature and the old souls on this
11:08:12planet and you're all in different um uh
11:08:16areas if you will and some of them just
11:08:20um ask you to help them and what I do
11:08:24I'm always very very gracious I try not
11:08:28to intimidate people and sometime it's
11:08:31hard because I'm human I'm not Divine
11:08:35but uh they ask me and prior to them
11:08:39giving a suggestion because I'm not a
11:08:41fortune teller and some people think I
11:08:44am but I'm not I um but I I'm serious
11:08:49about helping them and before I leave
11:08:52them I always say uh Mary or John or
11:08:57whatever their name is I said I'm going
11:09:00to ask higher in higher
11:09:04intelligence to project what's for your
11:09:07highest
11:09:08good and that's all I do because over
11:09:13the years you know what some something
11:09:16to consider and really consider not
11:09:20getting what you want is sometimes a
11:09:24wonderful Stroke of Luck that's worth
11:09:27repeating sometimes yes definitely
11:09:29definit getting what you want is often a
11:09:32a good thing yeah uhuh yes it
11:09:36is if you have the intelligence to sit
11:09:39back and
11:09:40reflect and then it makes
11:09:43sense uh it really and
11:09:45truly really and truly makes sense of
11:09:48course they don't believe it when they
11:09:50first get started I mean it's just one
11:09:52of those things I know number of years
11:09:54ago someone came and um brought their
11:09:58boyfriend in
11:10:00and I uh I'm a people um Observer and
11:10:04it's not because I'm psychic it's
11:10:06because I took a a wonderful exciting
11:10:10class with Dr Brian who taught body and
11:10:13organ language and so I'm very very wors
11:10:17on that I mean when you can walk in the
11:10:20door I know if you're mad sad glad or
11:10:22bad I mean uh it's just that obvious and
11:10:26then when you sit and I always have you
11:10:29pull up a chair so I'm equal and can
11:10:32watch your eyes and your body
11:10:34language and U then I take it from there
11:10:38you know are you lying are you accepting
11:10:41me or are you rejecting me and so I
11:10:44study I still watch um uh the Letterman
11:10:48show and watch these people when they're
11:10:51uh being um
11:10:54interviewed and I probably know about
11:10:56them more about them than they know
11:10:58about themselves h
11:11:00but that's because I'm interested in
11:11:02that I can tell that you are yeah well
11:11:05you have such a wealth of knowledge and
11:11:06I love how you simplified things right
11:11:08to this spec formula uh I'm holding in
11:11:12my hands a lottery ticket for tonight's
11:11:15Mega Millions in Texas yeah if I wanted
11:11:19to focus on winning that and we just
11:11:21played a game how would you help me do
11:11:24that what would you advise me I think
11:11:25this could be illustrating the whole
11:11:28process to people listening
11:11:30oh definitely definitely uh is this uh
11:11:33numbers that you have played repeatedly
11:11:37NOP these are all quick pick numbers oh
11:11:39these are quick pick numbers they were
11:11:41given to me by the machine okay all
11:11:44right well all I I I don't especially
11:11:48enjoy uh doing that because I'm a person
11:11:51that doesn't even wear jewelry or
11:11:54designer jeans or whatever not
11:11:56interested or Corvettes like one of my
11:11:58friends is
11:12:00not interested in any of that um I would
11:12:04just simply say uh this is the winning
11:12:07number and if it's and then project for
11:12:11it uh what when you're dealing with
11:12:14people in the masses like um tickets
11:12:17lottery tickets uh there are millions
11:12:20and millions and millions of people and
11:12:23the ones that have created the most
11:12:26energy are the winners and so if you
11:12:29read and uh a number of years ago I read
11:12:32the book uh that this couple this young
11:12:36couple had been um playing the lottery
11:12:39for six years and only kept the same
11:12:42numbers and they finally won the
11:12:45jackpot the with the same numbers so
11:12:49they were giving energy to these same
11:12:51numbers I see another time I was in uh
11:12:54Los Angeles and uh they again uh the
11:12:58group that I was working with ask about
11:13:01the lottery and I did something that um
11:13:05just came to on the spur of the moment I
11:13:08got on the chalkboard and I said okay
11:13:11now let's see here's 60 in this room
11:13:14here uh number one um how many of you
11:13:17use number one when you uh your favorite
11:13:21number how many of you use number two
11:13:23number three I went on down the aisle uh
11:13:27and they raised their hand
11:13:30and there seem to be number 13 17 23 I'm
11:13:35just guessing um where most of them use
11:13:39those numbers okay so at the end of
11:13:43after I got through going through the
11:13:46numbers and then I said look at here
11:13:49here are the numbers that are having the
11:13:52most energy just out of you 60 people uh
11:13:56here they are there's 13 23 whatever it
11:14:00was and I didn't think anymore about it
11:14:03I said that would be a nice I mean that
11:14:06would be a good number to
11:14:08play and one woman wrote These numbers
11:14:12down and uh during the break she went
11:14:16out of the hotel and went into the um
11:14:20fast food place there or whatever they
11:14:22had 7-Eleven or whatever mhm and uh
11:14:25bought that those
11:14:27numbers and later on that evening on in
11:14:31my hotel room and I get this phone call
11:14:34about 11: or 12 and she said oh Mrs
11:14:38hadel I just won the I was won the
11:14:41lottery wow and uh I don't know I don't
11:14:44think it was first I think it was 25,000
11:14:48or whatever she may have missed a number
11:14:51but that will tell you I mean play the
11:14:54same numbers and you said well quick
11:14:57pick I don't know yeah well what I'm
11:15:00hearing is that energy is everything
11:15:03because I'm mentioning I I have this
11:15:04ticket in my hand and the truth is
11:15:06there's no energy on it because I've
11:15:08never seen these numbers before I just
11:15:10stood there and said give me a couple
11:15:11quick picks for tonight's Mega Millions
11:15:14yeah okay okay no uh if you're playing
11:15:17it and if you want to uh research with
11:15:20it I would I would get the tickets that
11:15:24are winning constantly and I think they
11:15:27have print outs do they not
11:15:29I believe so are they're onine okay or
11:15:32do it uh and then look and see what
11:15:34numbers come up constantly consistently
11:15:38so at least if you don't win the big one
11:15:40you're going to win you're going to win
11:15:42a lot of numbers I mean have correct
11:15:44numbers that's the way I would work it
11:15:47if I played it okay well that's a good
11:15:49illustration because in your spec
11:15:52process the very first thing is Select
11:15:54and so I was looking at well I wanted to
11:15:56win the lottery but I'm semi joking cuz
11:15:58I don't really want to and I don't
11:16:00really need to when you were giving
11:16:03those other examples about wanting a TV
11:16:05set or wanting a jukebox there there
11:16:07seem to be a loving reason for it uhhuh
11:16:11yeah and then projecting can be any
11:16:14number of things that can be just
11:16:16thinking about it and it could be
11:16:17writing it down couldn't it writing it
11:16:19down that you've won sure or what it
11:16:21would be feeling like to win uhhuh yeah
11:16:24sure sure and what about expecting it do
11:16:26you just kind of sit around thinking
11:16:28well my business is going to improve or
11:16:30I'm going to win the lottery or okay um
11:16:33uh you um I have something here and I've
11:16:37had some
11:16:38confirmation with uh people that have
11:16:40been UNC consistent winners I don't know
11:16:43if you've heard of the contest Queen in
11:16:46in Canada yes okay she's she's a friend
11:16:49of mine and she was relentless to come
11:16:53out here and spend four days with me
11:16:55this us past year and I finally melted
11:16:59down and I said okay Carolyn you can
11:17:04come uh but prior to her coming uh she
11:17:08uh she wanted to win a trip to um to
11:17:11England to be with her husband and uh
11:17:15she just won the trip just before she
11:17:17came she had the notice two days before
11:17:19she came and she also the next day I got
11:17:24$700 with the brand new
11:17:26luggage so it was very very very
11:17:29interesting she is something else really
11:17:33and true
11:17:35oh I blog and so forth um tell me about
11:17:39your book your book contesting one time
11:17:43when I it might have been the first time
11:17:44you and I spoke you told me this
11:17:46wonderful story about a man who helped
11:17:49you with that book he wanted to be a
11:17:50publisher but had no publishing
11:17:52experience he wanted to go to India do
11:17:54you do you remember all of that can you
11:17:55tell us that story sure sure sure uh uh
11:17:59I was lecturing up in Ohio and uh this
11:18:02young man approached me he was a my uh a
11:18:05silver trainer instru instructor and um
11:18:09uh he um didn't say anything to me
11:18:13because I was there and he'd gotten
11:18:15books and uh most of the time when I was
11:18:18um invited they wanted a book review and
11:18:21then I'd got serious and then do a
11:18:23workshop on
11:18:24self-awareness but after I came home it
11:18:27was about a month later and uh there's a
11:18:31knock on the door and here he is with
11:18:33his brother and his aunt was in the car
11:18:36and they came all the way from Ohio and
11:18:40he had a
11:18:41proposition that um would I sign over
11:18:46his Distributing my
11:18:48book and at that time divorce was
11:18:52publishing and I self-published it but
11:18:54divorce was helping me distribute so I
11:18:57was doing okay with it
11:18:59and um I looked at him and he and I said
11:19:02he didn't have any money he was living
11:19:05with his aunt and uh just was um a
11:19:09silver instructor and had just started
11:19:12out and uh my husband uh said well he
11:19:16said I don't know if I would do a
11:19:19contract with him uh he he kept pleading
11:19:22me with me for 6 months to do a contract
11:19:25and then I couldn't um uh republish my
11:19:28book uh and you know whatever was left
11:19:32in the store room uh but after that he
11:19:35wanted to
11:19:36distribute and I slept on it and the
11:19:39next night I uh said okay I'll let you
11:19:42have it for six
11:19:44months well the first months uh I my
11:19:48husband went bunkers because I did a uh
11:19:52I did an article for Good Housekeeping
11:19:55and uh I had so many orders it was
11:19:58Unreal
11:19:59because at that time it was popular to
11:20:01be a winner you know and I didn't have
11:20:04any books left and then divorce uh was
11:20:08angry because now they were making money
11:20:12Distributing my book and I wouldn't let
11:20:14him re uh re um publish but in the
11:20:19meantime I'm still still thinking this
11:20:24kid was there was something about this
11:20:26kid that was so sincere here and I I
11:20:30just had confidence in them and then I
11:20:34guess it was uh three or four months
11:20:36later when he called one morning and he
11:20:39said are you sitting down and I said why
11:20:43and he said well what he did uh because
11:20:47it was a contesting book he bought all
11:20:50of the names of people that entered
11:20:54contests that you know you can buy names
11:20:57um at that mailing list and he run a
11:20:59mail what he did he sent out postcards
11:21:03and he took my book and put it in manual
11:21:06form he didn't change a word except he
11:21:10except he called it a how to do it book
11:21:15because it's very explicit I'm uh very
11:21:19very um a well a fifth grader could read
11:21:22the book because it's written where you
11:21:25can readily understand it and
11:21:29um that's how uh well I I don't recall
11:21:33the first I think check was 30 40,000 I
11:21:36don't even remember anymore but what he
11:21:39said was I'm going to make a million for
11:21:42you and a million for myself and then I
11:21:45want to go to India and get with some
11:21:48Maharishi or whatever and
11:21:52uh when I wrote the contract Joe I must
11:21:56have been tuned in because I uh uh it
11:21:59would be unheard of today uh in the
11:22:02public in the in writing a book oh yeah
11:22:05because I put it on 50
11:22:0750% yeah 50% royalty yeah yeah it didn't
11:22:11take us long to make that million
11:22:14dollars and um after he made his and of
11:22:18course that's how I I was able to get
11:22:20this Center here in
11:22:22Alvaro and uh the the dormatory in the
11:22:25center uh where people would come out
11:22:28and do take my self-awareness
11:22:31classes and then I never heard from him
11:22:33again he send my book back and he says
11:22:36I'm through with it and that's it never
11:22:39heard from the man again oh I guess he
11:22:41went to India and he's floating with the
11:22:43cloud I guess so but he I love the story
11:22:46because it's it's a good marketing story
11:22:48he saw a product and he knew there was
11:22:49an audience and he rented the list of
11:22:51people who had already showed interest
11:22:53in winning contest and just sent him a
11:22:56postcard about your book and then I love
11:22:59from a very balanced standpoint you had
11:23:01a 50/50 royalty he got 50 you got 50 and
11:23:05you both won because he wanted to go to
11:23:07India with his million you wanted to
11:23:08open your Center and do you still have
11:23:11your Center is it still open yes oh yes
11:23:14yeah you were invited there when the uh
11:23:16contest Queen was here but you declined
11:23:19so I don't remember right now but yeah I
11:23:22know you're busy in other areas but I
11:23:25was uh I definitely want to come are you
11:23:27doing classes there uh not anymore not
11:23:31anymore but uh there were so many things
11:23:34you know when I um we talked to years
11:23:36ago and I did your blueprint yes well
11:23:39when you called I mean when you emailed
11:23:41me the other day I um I always remember
11:23:45people that are fascinating me like you
11:23:47were born December the 29th 1953 you
11:23:51know my goodness that's right yeah well
11:23:53yeah I remember this and you can ask
11:23:57me any number if they're interesting I
11:24:01had a movie star here Monday and uh it
11:24:04was an interesting encounter but getting
11:24:06back to you do you know this year uh you
11:24:10know you're in your ninee um your
11:24:13Harvest cycle you're in your Harvest
11:24:15cycle but this is your seven year so
11:24:18this year because you're starting this
11:24:21new project you are on a philosophical
11:24:26humanitarian vibration M uh because
11:24:30that's what you're doing now December is
11:24:32a three 29 is a two this is a 2E adds up
11:24:37to a seven and then your Harvest cycle
11:24:41is a nine uh you you're doing exactly
11:24:45what you're supposed to be doing here
11:24:47Joe well that's good because I'd be in
11:24:49trouble if I wasn't well I'd have the
11:24:51back pedal well you'd be surprised how
11:24:54many people are still floundering out
11:24:57there well that's a good point how do
11:24:59they find out if there's somebody
11:25:00listening that feels like they're
11:25:03floundering okay for God's sake pick up
11:25:06a book on um on the numbers there
11:25:11there's vibrations from day one your
11:25:14name is a vibration numbers are a
11:25:16vibration I always say your parents gave
11:25:20you a name the universe gave you your
11:25:24numbers and then when you're following
11:25:26your numbers you know you are your Life
11:25:29Path is a five and adventure and so is
11:25:32mine that's why we we can uh um you
11:25:37know understand each other yes we can
11:25:39connect yes well what's a good book on
11:25:42that is there something that you wrote
11:25:43or something you recommend for a
11:25:45beginner well I do I do Blueprints and
11:25:48that's what I've done for the last 25
11:25:50years I did your blueprint oh I know you
11:25:53did I have people asking me all the time
11:25:55how do I reach or I want a
11:25:57blueprint tell for those who don't know
11:25:59what exactly is a blueprint so they know
11:26:02what you're doing with a blueprint uh
11:26:04well uh all they need to do is give me
11:26:06their name uh their name and their birth
11:26:09date and then three people that they
11:26:12want to know more about they're just
11:26:14their birth dates and I do 20 pages in a
11:26:20photo album so that they can constantly
11:26:23refer to it and this is all I do now I
11:26:27don't hold classes anymore I answer all
11:26:31of my emails I can't answer my phone
11:26:35because there's so many uh phone calls I
11:26:39mean Germany England well of course you
11:26:41have the same challenge yes and so I I
11:26:45wouldn't be doing anything but answering
11:26:47the phone well if people wanted one do
11:26:49they email you to get one how do they
11:26:51yes they can email me and uh at one time
11:26:55when I was just by myself here uh I had
11:26:58them for $35 but now my gracious I have
11:27:03um I have two people that have to help
11:27:06me send out books and price is gone up
11:27:10with everything with the everything it's
11:27:14$55 for a blueprint okay and that's it's
11:27:18everything concerned about you well if
11:27:21it's everything concerned about a person
11:27:22I think $55 is well well worth it that's
11:27:27very very reasonable I think it is I I
11:27:29do too and do you still have copies of
11:27:31contesting or where do people get that I
11:27:34think I reprinted now seven8 nine times
11:27:37and the last printing uh well it went up
11:27:40quite a bit so my books are $12 uh for
11:27:44my you know name it and claim it and
11:27:47then you you do have my uh confession
11:27:50book I do yes okay and remember I told
11:27:53you you can use anything in it you
11:27:56choose to share
11:27:58because there's some good stuff in there
11:28:00Joe yeah absolutely well how do do you
11:28:03want to give out your email or what do
11:28:05you want to do yeah you have uh my email
11:28:07so they don't bother you okay uh it's
11:28:10tap
11:28:12tap
11:28:1488 at
11:28:17Cowtown that's one word Cowtown
11:28:22doet taptap
11:28:2588c town. NE yeah that's right uhhuh
11:28:29okay and that'll go directly to you
11:28:31comes directly to me and I do the
11:28:33blueprint if I have somebody here
11:28:36helping me type just the initial things
11:28:40but before the blueprint gets put in the
11:28:43envelope I read it and there may be
11:28:46something that I need to call their to
11:28:49their attention or to remind them or to
11:28:53give them a clue on what they're missing
11:28:56because uh most of the people will say
11:28:59why am I here uh what is my mission this
11:29:03lifetime and they don't have the fist or
11:29:06if they do uh they know their um they
11:29:09add up their numbers and they still
11:29:12don't know what they mean like if you're
11:29:14you add up your numbers you know month
11:29:18day year and it comes to one you're
11:29:20Pioneer the two you're a diplomat three
11:29:23you're an artist four you're a builder
11:29:27five like you and I are adventurers and
11:29:30then the cosmic parent and I find that
11:29:33when you're Cosmic you're usually a
11:29:35teacher in this area if you're and then
11:29:38the philosopher of course is the one
11:29:41that has in depth and usually past lives
11:29:46that they've been in the monastery or in
11:29:48a Convent and this comes this surfaces
11:29:52with them the eight is the executive and
11:29:56they're the ones that um really and
11:29:59truly can get things done uh in the
11:30:01financial fields and then the
11:30:04humanitarian which uh right now the rest
11:30:07of your life the best and rest of your
11:30:09life you have that vibration of the
11:30:13humanitarian the sharing and caring uh
11:30:16what you're doing with people with your
11:30:19books with your talents and with your
11:30:22CDs so you're following you're following
11:30:26exactly what you're supposed to be doing
11:30:29and incidentally doing a damn good job
11:30:32Joe well thank you pardon the French no
11:30:36I appreciate that well well tell me more
11:30:38about some of the things that are unique
11:30:40to you in other words you tell people
11:30:42how to use their mind to get more of the
11:30:44results that they want but you talk
11:30:46about things like visualization being a
11:30:48little or the way you talk about
11:30:50visualization is different than other
11:30:51people can you just talk about some of
11:30:54these things that are unique to you that
11:30:56are your understandings and uh
11:31:00lessons uh well uh someone someone asked
11:31:04me uh who are you uh do you mind if I
11:31:09tell you who I
11:31:11am I don't mind if they ask me okay they
11:31:15they think I'm a chosen one so I say I'm
11:31:18not a chosen one I don't think so saving
11:31:21the world is not my
11:31:24assignment unlike Sylvia Brown the dead
11:31:27and I do not
11:31:29communicate jeie Dixon made predictions
11:31:32I do not I was told uh because I work in
11:31:36other levels I see people in other
11:31:40dimensions I told I'm a channel to help
11:31:44people to help themselves and this is my
11:31:46mission and purpose is Lifetime I'm
11:31:50given assignments from beings from other
11:31:53dimensions and they appear to me in
11:31:56physical form sometimes they're so real
11:31:59that I think it's another person there
11:32:02and they communicate
11:32:04telepathically and now very rarely do
11:32:07these beings or you want to call them
11:32:09entities appear for each person uh that
11:32:14leads me to believe that um an
11:32:17individual uh individuals have different
11:32:20people around them let's say someone
11:32:22comes here and uh maybe they came for an
11:32:26weekend retreat
11:32:28and if they come and I see a person
11:32:31beside them and they're you know they're
11:32:34in that other dimension then I know for
11:32:37some reason that I need to communicate
11:32:41or with more on a personal basis uh why
11:32:44did they come sometime they come to
11:32:48observe sometime they communicate and
11:32:51tell me to remind that person and when I
11:32:54remind that person uh many times s that
11:32:58person will say well I had a dream about
11:33:01that and they don't have the foggiest
11:33:05that this guide is helping them to help
11:33:08themselves guides never tell you what to
11:33:11do they're there to watch you to guide
11:33:15you uh to take care I mean you know more
11:33:18or less to observe but they don't
11:33:20interfere and the minute you feel like
11:33:24somebody interferes then you better back
11:33:27off because we're on this Dimension and
11:33:31we have what we call um jokesters and
11:33:34people make fun of you Etc but the
11:33:37minute that you have visions of grandeur
11:33:41someone in that other dimension is going
11:33:43to create or you're going to create a
11:33:47thought form and that thought form is
11:33:50going to tell you you're a chosen one
11:33:52they uh they say they see the Virgin
11:33:55Mary or they see Jesus or or they see
11:33:58muhamad or whatever and most of that is
11:34:03a thought form they create and that was
11:34:06that research that I did when I went to
11:34:08England I wanted to know the difference
11:34:11between ghosts abortions and thought
11:34:14forms so many many of the people that
11:34:17went to Seance rooms were creating their
11:34:21own thought forms and the medium over
11:34:24there was
11:34:26simply simply telling them what they
11:34:29wanted to hear because they were picking
11:34:32up what they wanted to hear they were
11:34:34picking up their own thoughts yes they
11:34:36were projecting thoughts and they
11:34:38thought oh this medium is fantastic you
11:34:40know she knows that U my electric bill
11:34:44is um uh isn't correct or whatever it
11:34:47was I mean there were such
11:34:49mundane I called it um a waste of my
11:34:52time I sat there for three day for three
11:34:55weeks uh trying to get some kind of you
11:34:58know confirmation when I finally got it
11:35:02I said Eureka and then I went back on my
11:35:05way to New York and did a talk show and
11:35:08that's when I was invited to go to
11:35:10Russia and present my paper on what I
11:35:14had
11:35:15observed so at least I know the
11:35:18difference this is the power of thoughts
11:35:21thoughts can help us win thoughts can
11:35:23help us get rich or get poor thoughts
11:35:24can help us create thought forms which
11:35:27other people if they're Sensi sensitive
11:35:29enough can misinterpret as a ghost or an
11:35:32oparation this is the power of thoughts
11:35:34well with all of that in mind what's
11:35:37your advice to people when they look at
11:35:40the world right now and it's fairly
11:35:42Rocky with the economy being uncertain
11:35:45and people losing jobs and people being
11:35:47in fear do they all need a copy of
11:35:50contesting or or what do they need uh
11:35:53they need to get back and push away from
11:35:57uh listen I don't even care uh to go out
11:36:01to the grocery stores or Walmart or
11:36:04shopping anymore the energy is so so
11:36:08rampant and there's so much unrest and
11:36:12there's so many drugs out there and
11:36:15drinking in excess because what they're
11:36:17saying is world is going too fast and
11:36:20they want to slide away from it so they
11:36:22drug uh themselves up and this is very
11:36:26very prent now and also many many on the
11:36:30planet are infant and baby Souls uh they
11:36:35came here uh when you choose to come
11:36:37here you choose your parents you know
11:36:40and um uh you are you usually come into
11:36:44a family and uh you have a group Soul
11:36:48session which uh on my blueprint I point
11:36:51out if you came here uh to resolve
11:36:55something uh and you might want to look
11:36:58at your blueprint again because on the
11:37:01second line there it tells you if you
11:37:04have a karmic tie with somebody and when
11:37:08you when you have that and then of
11:37:10course you better um really find out
11:37:13what is it what do you have hate fear
11:37:16anger pain
11:37:18servitude
11:37:20love with this person and then when you
11:37:23know that and then you you always have
11:37:26to what I call self-analyze
11:37:29yourself in order to be happy and
11:37:32content but um uh as you are um sending
11:37:37out your books and your emails Etc I
11:37:41always always include uh Frank Outlaw's
11:37:44work you know that's watch your thoughts
11:37:48they become
11:37:50words watch your words they become
11:37:54actions watch your actions
11:37:57they become
11:37:59habits watch your habits they become
11:38:02your
11:38:03character watch your character for it
11:38:07becomes your
11:38:08destiny and so it starts out with what
11:38:12are you
11:38:13thinking if it's not positive
11:38:16constructive and creative and then it's
11:38:19a detriment to
11:38:21you you start out that way by watching
11:38:25your thoughts and then what are you
11:38:28saying and I am constantly
11:38:32constantly uh calling that to my
11:38:36attention to people that email me you
11:38:40know uh go back and start out and then
11:38:43even in my in my blueprints I think I
11:38:46repeat it three times and at the end
11:38:49when I make a summary I say all right
11:38:53look at that one again because really
11:38:56that's the secret there it's not a
11:38:58secret because if you use it you're not
11:39:01going to have many
11:39:03problems so it all comes to watching
11:39:05your thoughts yes yes watch your
11:39:08thoughts what are you thinking is there
11:39:10anger jealousy pity party and many of
11:39:14them are in pity parties now and uh the
11:39:18more pity party they are in uh the
11:39:21deeper they're going to dig themselves
11:39:23and they can uh blame it on the
11:39:26government they can blame it on their
11:39:28boss they can blame it on the economy or
11:39:31whatever uh how come uh there are other
11:39:35people that are
11:39:37successful uh what are the successful
11:39:39people uh get around the successful
11:39:41people and listen what are what are they
11:39:44talking about they're not they're not um
11:39:47buying in on the economy or listening to
11:39:50the news and being uh pulled down
11:39:53constantly they have an opportunity to
11:39:56cancel or press the um the mute button
11:40:00to think of something
11:40:02uplifting I mean you have choices all
11:40:05the time you're in control of your
11:40:09destiny so some people think they're not
11:40:11in control of their Destiny they feel
11:40:14like you know they may have lost their
11:40:16home or maybe they're fearful about
11:40:18losing their home maybe they're fearful
11:40:19about their business or maybe they lost
11:40:22their job or maybe they have an online
11:40:24business right now and the sales aren't
11:40:26as great is what they want how do they
11:40:29raise their thoughts or raise their
11:40:31energy how do they focus on it being
11:40:33better when it feels so bad in the
11:40:36moment for them okay now that's a that's
11:40:40a darn good question here okay in our
11:40:44society you think the majority of people
11:40:47think and unfortunately the par some of
11:40:50these parents are really and truly
11:40:53bringing their children up to I I don't
11:40:56know to uh laws and rules and things
11:40:59that I was never I never experienced
11:41:03growing up if you don't have a dish or a
11:41:08a a television with all all of the
11:41:11different channels on you got to have
11:41:13that you got to eat out and um fast food
11:41:18course is going up now to almost uh Meal
11:41:21Time things you got to have a four-story
11:41:24house or 20 bedrooms or whatever
11:41:27what in God's green earth do these
11:41:30people keep on extending themselves for
11:41:33they got to be responsible for what
11:41:36they're
11:41:38doing uh there's something else that I
11:41:41need to um on a personal note sure and
11:41:45I'm going to uh I always call it the
11:41:48three
11:41:49Rs the three Rs to me are very very
11:41:52important and that's respect for
11:41:55self respect for others and be
11:41:59responsible for all your
11:42:02actions those are beautiful when you can
11:42:04do that and then you're okay but uh how
11:42:08many are doing that now it's uh and then
11:42:12uh when I'm dealing with people that are
11:42:15I watch Judge Judy by the way and she is
11:42:18a really on online person and uh what
11:42:24things that I I quote from her cuz I
11:42:27think she's um she's got it on the ball
11:42:30she's not
11:42:31perfect but she makes a lot of sense
11:42:35with it uh living an honorable life then
11:42:39when you get older and think back you're
11:42:41able to enjoy it it a second time and
11:42:44that's what I did when I wrote my
11:42:45confession
11:42:47book in uh in uh in disagreements with
11:42:50your loved ones deal only with the
11:42:53current
11:42:55situations don't bring up the past oh
11:42:58that's a big one isn't it deal only with
11:43:00current situation don't bring up the
11:43:02past that's right and then share your
11:43:04knowledge it's a way to achieve
11:43:08immortality and remember that the best
11:43:12relationship is one in which you love
11:43:15your love for each other extends your
11:43:18need for each
11:43:20other uh and that's very important
11:43:23because I I'm seeing it all the time
11:43:25with um people do I mean I uh
11:43:29occasionally let people come in for
11:43:31counseling and um sometime I just want
11:43:34to say get out of my face because I told
11:43:37you this I told you this three years ago
11:43:40they don't listen they only want you to
11:43:42agree with
11:43:44them um so you asked me um the one thing
11:43:48that kept me so easygoing and positive
11:43:51even experienced losses and
11:43:53disappointments sure I've had that but
11:43:56my answer is this offbeat sense of humor
11:43:59and I will continue uh to do jokes and
11:44:04um one thing that was so
11:44:07precious I had a woman um I did a
11:44:10blueprint and you know what her main
11:44:13main con U well she
11:44:16had two two
11:44:19complaints uh number one the uh I have
11:44:23the deserada at the end of the uh of the
11:44:26book
11:44:27and she says I didn't have the D on it
11:44:30that was one complaint Big Time
11:44:32complaint and the second
11:44:35complaint was I did a um I I do cartoons
11:44:40that are real funny I mean they're haha
11:44:44cartoons and I did one and sometime in
11:44:47order to emphasize and I'm standing here
11:44:50uh reading her blueprint I may color
11:44:53something like this doctor slapped this
11:44:56woman and it said this was a one session
11:45:00therapy he slapped at her and that was
11:45:02it and so I did Red there and uh she
11:45:06complained that it reminded her of blood
11:45:09and uh she did not appreciate that so I
11:45:12mean you know uh I can't win them
11:45:17all can't win them all Joe well out of
11:45:21before we run out of time here how what
11:45:23are some of the books that have
11:45:25influenced you or some of the people and
11:45:27I know that I want people to get your
11:45:29books and I want them to get a blueprint
11:45:30and they'll contact you directly but was
11:45:33there something that stood out or stands
11:45:35out in your mind now yes yes yes yes yes
11:45:38yes must must must tell you this one
11:45:42good uh Laura Huxley wrote a book you
11:45:44are not the target I've never read that
11:45:47you know I've seen it I've seen why well
11:45:50Jose brought it to me Jose yes uhuh he
11:45:55said read this there's something in
11:45:57there that you need to uh to share with
11:46:01people well let me tell you uh last week
11:46:04I had a well drug I mean they were
11:46:07digging a well on my five acres that I
11:46:10live here because we're having kind of a
11:46:12little shortage of water around here
11:46:14yeah and so they were drilling a well
11:46:16and they came at 7 in the morning and
11:46:18I'm I'm still in bed but um uh the dring
11:46:23there's nothing as irritating is hearing
11:46:27those things I mean you know on and off
11:46:30and on and off and I thought the first
11:46:32thing I thought about was L huxley's
11:46:35book you're not the target she said
11:46:39whenever you are
11:46:41experiencing noise that irritates you
11:46:45noise is energy change that energy into
11:46:50something positive and heal something in
11:46:55your physical that now needs
11:46:58healing and take that energy and use it
11:47:02in any area that you want well while
11:47:06they were there while they were here I
11:47:09stubbed my toe the other day and it's
11:47:12healing and it was throbbing and I
11:47:14thought okay let's get with the program
11:47:18and I sat here and every time that they
11:47:22drilled because they stopped
11:47:23momentarily I put energy into that toe
11:47:27you cannot believe H and it's okay I
11:47:31mean there's there's you don't even know
11:47:33anything happened to it so that's very
11:47:37very very
11:47:38important you are not the target yes you
11:47:41are not the Target by Laura Huxley do
11:47:44you have another one very good do you
11:47:46have another one that comes to mind or a
11:47:48person I like I like that one I like
11:47:51that one and any of Vincent peele's book
11:47:53or Murphy's books yeah because you know
11:47:56Neville Gard Neville uh yes you talked
11:47:59about him before and he impressed you
11:48:03yes he did I just wanted if you had met
11:48:04him or read any of his no no no and uh
11:48:08you send me your books and all of your
11:48:11books have an overtone of being very
11:48:15positive and that's what I appreciate
11:48:17about with about you're doing your work
11:48:20kid yeah and doing a good job no kidding
11:48:24well thank you of course you are as well
11:48:26well I'm about to run out of time here
11:48:28on what I can record I wanted to thank
11:48:30you for making time and find out is
11:48:33there anything you want to leave people
11:48:35with like a thought or a joke or a
11:48:37comment or a quote anything well honey I
11:48:41think we cover I think we about covered
11:48:43all bases didn't we yeah yeah I think we
11:48:48did too is there any final thought
11:48:49though anything you want them to well
11:48:51I'm telling you it's always good to to
11:48:54talk to my dear friend Joe a anytime
11:48:58that um uh we need to um exchange ideas
11:49:02or whatever because uh you you're just
11:49:06going to be surprised how many how your
11:49:08name comes up on these emails they're
11:49:12calling you Dr Joe now they're calling
11:49:15you the Monk and we knew you moned
11:49:17around in one of our past lives yes
11:49:21that's obvious we'll talk about that in
11:49:23person sometime I I want to tell you one
11:49:25more thing and
11:49:26um I don't believe in remote viewing MH
11:49:30but uh last year on my birthday June the
11:49:331st I'm sitting here and um you came to
11:49:38mind and you can confir verify this if
11:49:41you want to uh I saw you do you have a
11:49:45blue
11:49:46blazer uh you were in an uh an
11:49:48auditorium situation you were walking up
11:49:52and down the hall and you had this blue
11:49:55blazing are on and people are stopping
11:49:59and telling you how handsome you looked
11:50:02and how pretty that color was it was a
11:50:06kind of a teal blue or a blue beautiful
11:50:10blue and um what I noticed Joe was um
11:50:16this y this older man stood in the
11:50:19corner and was watching you and he had
11:50:23Envy to such a degree that he looked
11:50:27like s Simon lree and what I
11:50:30telepathically communic because you came
11:50:32to my mind a telepathic Community
11:50:36anytime I talk to Joe or I have in touch
11:50:39with him I need to remind you when
11:50:42you're out with people in an audience
11:50:46especially uh before you get on stage uh
11:50:49put the light around you put the light
11:50:52around you
11:50:54kid and it's prot protection it is
11:50:57definitely protection because some of
11:50:59these people are strong and they can get
11:51:02in and make you feel inadequate or disc
11:51:06conglomerated or whatever you don't want
11:51:09that to happen no well that's good
11:51:11advice for me and everybody and yes I
11:51:13did have a blue blazer that everybody
11:51:15commented on as I walked around after
11:51:16giving a seminar last summer okay and
11:51:19that one guy was so damn envious of you
11:51:23that I thought um I have to tell to to
11:51:27do that that's something I always did on
11:51:28the circuit uh want can I have one more
11:51:31talk here one more thing uh this
11:51:34happened up in in Colorado I'm not going
11:51:36to say where but I was sponsored by a
11:51:39church and I get up there and uh this um
11:51:43was a huge huge church but they did have
11:51:46their entire uh congregation there and
11:51:49there were so many many people that they
11:51:51put folding seats in the in the aisle
11:51:55while I'm up there and all I'm talking
11:51:58about was I'm to do my book review and
11:52:01I'm talking to these people discern
11:52:04discern discern I said you read a book
11:52:07okay that is the author's uh uh ideas or
11:52:12his comments or his experience now you
11:52:16discern now you hear something discern
11:52:20what they're saying because don't let
11:52:22them influence you unless you want to
11:52:25and then of course I showed them how
11:52:28they open themselves to suggestion and I
11:52:32said don't need that be your own person
11:52:35well while I'm talking all of a sudden
11:52:38in the audience there's a man and he
11:52:41happens to be in the aisle
11:52:44seat uh I see him with a keg of ice
11:52:47around him he's enclosed in a big piece
11:52:52of ice I'm watching and as I'm talking
11:52:56about Discerning and then going into
11:52:59another area I look at and the ice is
11:53:03spreading now he has he's in this
11:53:06enclosed ice and the next person beside
11:53:10him is in ice and the woman beside him
11:53:13is in ice and I'm watching as this ice
11:53:17is uh expanding out all of a
11:53:21sudden when I see this I merely close my
11:53:25eyes one second and I'll say put him
11:53:29where he's supposed to be and that's all
11:53:34and when I said that I opened my eyes
11:53:37this man got up and they all had I had
11:53:41stopped while he uh while they had to
11:53:44get up and he walked out the back door
11:53:48well and now the first the first break
11:53:50Reverend Nichols who had sponsored me uh
11:53:54came up and he said oh he said I'm so
11:53:57embarrassed I don't know what possessed
11:53:59this man he said I'm going to get on to
11:54:01him that was so rude I'm so sorry uh did
11:54:05that bother you and I said oh no no no I
11:54:08said what is POS his position here uh in
11:54:12in this uh Community oh he said oh he is
11:54:16um he's the Deacon of the church here
11:54:20and I said uh oh I was
11:54:23interfering uh with his see the last two
11:54:27things on this planet are for people to
11:54:31balance greed and power power over
11:54:35people and greed and he was in power
11:54:39over these people he like to be in an
11:54:42authorative position and I'm now what
11:54:46I'm doing I am threatening him and
11:54:50that's when the ice was formed and he
11:54:53left with the ice and then the the I see
11:54:56the audience as warm after that but the
11:55:00minute there's a Heckler uh and there
11:55:02never has been in all the years that I
11:55:05lectured because I won't allow
11:55:08it mentally you won't allow it no no I
11:55:11don't allow it no
11:55:14no well you are amazing you want to call
11:55:18me Grace I want to call you grace
11:55:19Amazing Grace Amazing Grace okay I want
11:55:23to thank you for making the time I can't
11:55:25wait to meet you in person which I hope
11:55:26is very soon and if it's meant to be uh
11:55:30listen there's some things you need to
11:55:31learn that happened in the uh Monastery
11:55:35that I don't think you're still aware of
11:55:37kid well I don't think I want to talk
11:55:39about him publicly on no no definitely
11:55:42not my hypnotic gold member so we'll do
11:55:44that in private sometime oh no no no no
11:55:46no no no no but thank you and God speed
11:55:49to all my listeners go get Helen's book
11:55:51uh contesting get a blueprint from her
11:55:53and get her other books that including a
11:55:55new one novel that just came out U
11:55:58meanwhile anytime I can share with you
11:56:00I'm here kid all right thank you all
11:56:02right Joe byebye
11:56:06bye

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