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Heilung on what being a Pagan really means, airport woes and how one joins the Warrior Choir — Transcript

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  1. 0:00people like having a big heart for Satan
  2. 0:02I also have a big heart for Satan don't
  3. 0:04get me wrong
  4. 0:10right uh so one of the most up moments
  5. 0:13in uh airports uh for us with our weird
  6. 0:16gear I think was which airport was it
  7. 0:19that we had the sword problem wasn't
  8. 0:20that in Russia that was me in Russia
  9. 0:22that was you in Russia because that was
  10. 0:24a really that was scary that was scary
  11. 0:27yeah
  12. 0:28yeah yeah tell it yeah so uh we're we're
  13. 0:32coming to Russia and we're on the way
  14. 0:34back home right and at that time it was
  15. 0:37like that when you wanted to enter the
  16. 0:40airport they
  17. 0:42already like x-rayed your luggage and of
  18. 0:45course like it was slightly chaotic I
  19. 0:49don't speak Russian and uh we lost our
  20. 0:52translator because it was several
  21. 0:54entrances and it was me with a with a
  22. 0:57case that was not mine yeah
  23. 1:00it I think it was Chris's case right so
  24. 1:04I'm standing there it's high long gear
  25. 1:05and like I I hand in a couple of cases
  26. 1:07and suitcases and everything and then I
  27. 1:09suddenly see that guy like getting like
  28. 1:12super big eyes he takes my suitcase to
  29. 1:15the side looks around ask asking WR I
  30. 1:17know what he wants like he wanted to
  31. 1:18know like who owns this suitcase so I go
  32. 1:22up there and he opens it up and of
  33. 1:25course in there is a
  34. 1:28sword like full scale real Viking sword
  35. 1:32right and he looks at me and like is
  36. 1:35speaking Russian I'm like I don't speak
  37. 1:37Russian and I can't even say in Russian
  38. 1:38that I don't do not speak Russian and it
  39. 1:40ended up that he loses it you know and
  40. 1:43he just he's pointing at the sword and
  41. 1:45just yells document
  42. 1:48document this is like theater props man
  43. 1:50like like we we're we're not intending
  44. 1:52any harm is all fine it it it's we don't
  45. 1:54do anything document document you know
  46. 1:57like with these like hats and everything
  47. 2:00luckily at that point there was the
  48. 2:02translator he was going around and then
  49. 2:04he realizes okay Kai is in
  50. 2:07trouble yeah so the antlers was a huge
  51. 2:11incident for us in Bangkok when we
  52. 2:13played there last year because it turns
  53. 2:14out that you can bring antlers into
  54. 2:17Thailand but you cannot export them
  55. 2:19again we had no idea about this Rule and
  56. 2:23uh so they were stock at the uh airport
  57. 2:26in Bangkok I don't remember the name of
  58. 2:27it but uh I think there was hold there
  59. 2:30for two months because all they wanted
  60. 2:32was a stamp on a paper saying that this
  61. 2:36uh this equipment belongs to to hilong
  62. 2:39and they are are meant to they were
  63. 2:41coming in and are meant to be taken out
  64. 2:43again like but no Authority wanted to
  65. 2:47mess with this uh document on our behalf
  66. 2:50because it was um they saw it as a it
  67. 2:53became a somehow a legal vulnerable
  68. 2:57situation because we had as a matter of
  69. 2:59fact fact like not follow the rules and
  70. 3:01regulations so but in the end the Danish
  71. 3:04music Society blessed them a small
  72. 3:06organization in Denmark living their
  73. 3:08lives happily supporting musicians in in
  74. 3:10their country and they don't they're not
  75. 3:13a huge Authority but they were like yeah
  76. 3:14sure we'll put a stamp on this one for
  77. 3:16you guys and that was all they needed
  78. 3:18and they released our stuff but yeah
  79. 3:20going in and out of Australia and New
  80. 3:22Zealand we have to make special
  81. 3:25applications for anything that is a part
  82. 3:27of an animal or uh nature anything of
  83. 3:30wood skin uh fur uh
  84. 3:34bones any earth materials and if I mean
  85. 3:38have you seen our show everything we own
  86. 3:41is made from Bones and Furs and skins
  87. 3:44and and woods so yeah it's uh it's
  88. 3:48challenging going through customs in I
  89. 3:50think there was an heathow with I I had
  90. 3:52all the spares in a in a sewer tube
  91. 3:55which is the only sensible way of
  92. 3:57transporting spares all of apparently
  93. 4:00so I'm walking with this tube on my
  94. 4:02shoulder and through the beep machine
  95. 4:04and it's like it's full of spares and of
  96. 4:06course you have to then explain to the
  97. 4:07Customs that yes this is sharp spares
  98. 4:10they are weapons but they are indeed
  99. 4:12theater props and in in Europe they're
  100. 4:14normally more easy to talk to than the
  101. 4:18Russian at least we share a language at
  102. 4:20least we share a language well what is
  103. 4:22the warrior choir I think the warrior
  104. 4:24choir is one of the elements that
  105. 4:26clearly separates us from all the other
  106. 4:29modern Pagan bands because no one has
  107. 4:32the energy and the patience to like to
  108. 4:35train an army to train an army the
  109. 4:38warrior choir uh when we are on stage is
  110. 4:41nine people but all over uh it is around
  111. 4:4540 people on the planet who are
  112. 4:47qualified to do the task and we pick
  113. 4:50them depending on where we
  114. 4:53go and to get in there it's of course uh
  115. 4:57quite hard because uh it is it is not
  116. 5:00easy and it's also we are very
  117. 5:03consequent with the dress code so you
  118. 5:05you will only wear pants and we are
  119. 5:08gender neutral so it doesn't matter as
  120. 5:10what you identify you will have pants
  121. 5:13and you will have a night camouflage uh
  122. 5:16body
  123. 5:17painting and they are representing
  124. 5:21something which is called uh which is
  125. 5:22described by the Romans around the first
  126. 5:26century as the har e and back then they
  127. 5:30were doing exactly what what we were
  128. 5:32doing so they got painted black and uh
  129. 5:36they had dark clothes they blackened
  130. 5:38their weapons and they did something
  131. 5:40which was very unusual at the time they
  132. 5:42attacked in the night and they ran off
  133. 5:45and never uh yeah got never really
  134. 5:48defeated there's still scientific
  135. 5:50research and discussion going on what
  136. 5:53they actually are if they are a proper
  137. 5:55tribe or if it was just some Savages
  138. 5:57that were trying to annoy the Romans but
  139. 6:00as a matter of fact they scared the
  140. 6:01out of the Romans because they came they
  141. 6:03came in the night out of the dense
  142. 6:06Germanic jungle basically right and they
  143. 6:09killed a lot of people and then they
  144. 6:11went off again
  145. 6:12right that was very unusual at the time
  146. 6:15because like uh you were when you went
  147. 6:17into battle you got dressed into
  148. 6:19something super nice you know and to
  149. 6:21show respect to your opponent and
  150. 6:24especially the Romans they were very
  151. 6:26proud and showing off stuff and like
  152. 6:28having having a dress back then was like
  153. 6:31really ridiculously expensive but they
  154. 6:33did exactly the opponents they were not
  155. 6:35claiming a kill even right and um so and
  156. 6:40the training is very uh very intense
  157. 6:43because like when you tour uh the US for
  158. 6:46example for S weeks playing every second
  159. 6:48day that is really really tough you know
  160. 6:51and they need to deliver every day they
  161. 6:53need to they need to function as one
  162. 6:55entity they need to be in Rhythm they
  163. 6:58need to be able to do Road singing they
  164. 7:00need to be able to do like death metal
  165. 7:02style shouting and dance and until the
  166. 7:06point which is not exhaustion anymore
  167. 7:09which like really goes into trans and
  168. 7:12pronunciation of all languages and so on
  169. 7:14and so forth and then they have to of
  170. 7:16course stand my critical
  171. 7:18eye and if I you can just say two words
  172. 7:21about the audition process because it's
  173. 7:23uh right now we we've closed the
  174. 7:25auditions down for now but um uh
  175. 7:28normally you can send an email email and
  176. 7:30then you have to send an audition video
  177. 7:33and if you pass for Al father heti one
  178. 7:35of our songs and if you pass that then
  179. 7:38you get another song and if you pass
  180. 7:40that you get invited to a boot camp if
  181. 7:43you pass that you get invited to try uh
  182. 7:46a a live
  183. 7:48situation and if you pass that being in
  184. 7:52beats being uh able to pronounce being
  185. 7:55able to perform being uh like a a
  186. 7:57generally a good uh skilled person then
  187. 8:01the final test is the
  188. 8:03Afterparty say no more say no
  189. 8:07more how do this person react after a
  190. 8:10few beers is it a a social uh person is
  191. 8:14are we able to function because
  192. 8:16sometimes you need to sit for 14 hours
  193. 8:18in an airplane next to someone it's
  194. 8:20important that you can function socially
  195. 8:22as well as musically and performative so
  196. 8:25it's really hard and I think out of
  197. 8:28maybe 500 additions it's 40 people who
  198. 8:30made it so yeah it's not an easy task we
  199. 8:33we see for instance that from Denmark we
  200. 8:35only have one like there's just people
  201. 8:38are maybe too shy or not willing to take
  202. 8:42that extra step or in the US uh we got
  203. 8:45uh a lot uh people are more maybe like
  204. 8:48yeah ready to to take the take the
  205. 8:51challenge so yeah Germany we have a few
  206. 8:55France France and of course Holland is
  207. 8:57our main main Core group of of Warriors
  208. 9:01because that's where they kind of
  209. 9:02started and originated from so yeah I
  210. 9:05think the one of the biggest
  211. 9:07misconception is that uh as a pagan you
  212. 9:11have to oppose
  213. 9:13Christianity I think that is one of the
  214. 9:15biggest misconcept misconception that
  215. 9:17are out there especially in the metal
  216. 9:19scene you know there's a lot of people
  217. 9:21like having a big heart for Satan I also
  218. 9:23have a big heart for Satan don't get me
  219. 9:24wrong
  220. 9:25[Laughter]
  221. 9:27right but when we look at his
  222. 9:31it is actually not like that you know
  223. 9:33like uh everything that uh that that was
  224. 9:35handed or is handed to us uh from uh
  225. 9:39from the old times when Christianity of
  226. 9:41course was was already existing because
  227. 9:43like before the year zero Christianity
  228. 9:46was not a topic you know so everything
  229. 9:48that is from there is not really
  230. 9:50relevant for that uh for that talk right
  231. 9:53now but people are ra rambling on like
  232. 9:56runes and like Vikings and everything
  233. 10:00but when we look at the Viking age for
  234. 10:02example that is in Scandinavia also the
  235. 10:04time when we have the first Christians
  236. 10:07that that are dying there and being
  237. 10:09being buried alongside pagans in the
  238. 10:12same grave Mount you know like
  239. 10:14apparently with total Harmony when we
  240. 10:16have the when we look at the runes every
  241. 10:19Rune poem that made it to our age
  242. 10:22contains also very very clear Christian
  243. 10:26hints you know so I I think of course
  244. 10:29I'm I'm I'm not a scientist right I'm
  245. 10:30just an artist but I I see it like that
  246. 10:34that as a pagan you are open
  247. 10:38towards other people's gods and whatever
  248. 10:41you're praying to when you are my guest
  249. 10:44you can do that in my house in my temple
  250. 10:46that is absolutely no problem I think
  251. 10:49the disappointing part part starts later
  252. 10:53when the pagans are thinking that they
  253. 10:55can do the same thing in a church and
  254. 10:57they're not allowed in you know
  255. 10:59but I think that the pagans back in the
  256. 11:02days that they were absolutely first of
  257. 11:04all welcoming that new belief and they
  258. 11:07did not judge it as something that you
  259. 11:09should get rid of that you have to
  260. 11:11oppose that you have to fight that comes
  261. 11:14later
  262. 11:15[Music]

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