He Says It Was an Accident… Detectives Don’t Buy It | Adam Crespo Interrogation — Transcript
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- 0:00at at some point where she's not
- 0:01leaving. She's not going. She's getting
- 0:03belligerent. And I I just couldn't take
- 0:06it at this point. So, I just said, "All
- 0:07right, well then I'm going to drag you
- 0:08out."
- 0:14>> On July 12th, 2019, a night out in South
- 0:17Florida ended inside a bedroom in
- 0:18Hollandale Beach. Adam Cresbow and
- 0:21Sylvia Galva had gone out earlier with a
- 0:23friend, then returned to the apartment
- 0:25sometime after 1:00 a.m. Not long after,
- 0:28an argument started behind a closed
- 0:29door. The friend later told police she
- 0:32could hear them going back and forth.
- 0:33Cresbow telling Galva to leave, voices
- 0:36rising, tension building in a space no
- 0:38one else could see. Then she heard a
- 0:40scream. When she went into the room,
- 0:43Galva was on her back with a severe
- 0:44chest wound. A decorative spear from the
- 0:47bed had pierced her chest, causing a
- 0:49fatal injury. Cresbow told investigators
- 0:52it was an accident, that he had tried to
- 0:54pull her off the bed by her ankles, that
- 0:56she grabbed the spear to hold on, and
- 0:58that it broke, driving the blade into
- 1:00her chest. From the start, investigators
- 1:03had to determine whether that
- 1:04explanation matched the physical
- 1:06evidence and what had just happened
- 1:07inside that room. This is the
- 1:09interrogation of Adam Cresbow.
- 1:22Yeah.
- 1:25Want to sit in here? Okay.
- 1:32We're going to record our our interview.
- 1:35Okay. Sorry. We're going to record this.
- 1:37Okay. Of course.
- 1:49This is a sworn reported statement being
- 1:51taken on July 12th, 2019 at 7:18 hours
- 1:56as a regards to case number
- 1:5828-1907-19392.
- 2:04This interview is being conducted by
- 2:05Detective Chris Grio, CCN 6140. This
- 2:09interview is being conducted at the
- 2:11Hollandell Beach Police Department, 400
- 2:13South Federal Highway, Hollandell Beach,
- 2:14Florida 330009.
- 2:17Also in the room is
- 2:19>> officer Val, CCN 628.
- 2:23>> Um, advising you that I'm a dy sworn
- 2:26police officer for the city of
- 2:27Hollanddale Beach, state of Florida. Do
- 2:29you understand?
- 2:30>> I'm sorry.
- 2:30>> I'm a dy sworn police officer for the
- 2:32city.
- 2:33>> I have hearing problems. Just let
- 2:34>> Okay. So, I'll speak louder.
- 2:35>> Yes, that's good.
- 2:36>> Okay.
- 2:38So, you understand what I'm police
- 2:39officer?
- 2:40>> Yes.
- 2:40>> Okay.
- 2:42>> Everything we talk about needs to be
- 2:43honest and truthful to the best of your
- 2:45recollection. Do you understand that?
- 2:46>> Yes.
- 2:47>> Okay. Uh, I'm going to swear you in.
- 2:50>> Please raise your right hand. Your right
- 2:52hand.
- 2:54>> You solemnly swear to tell the truth,
- 2:55the whole truth, and nothing but the
- 2:57truth. So, help you God.
- 2:58>> I do.
- 2:58>> Okay. You can lower your hand. Thank
- 2:59you. Uh, please state your full name.
- 3:02>> Adam Rashard Creswell.
- 3:04>> And spell your last name. C R E S as in
- 3:07Sam P as in Peter O.
- 3:09>> And your date of birth?
- 3:11>> 53176.
- 3:13>> And your address
- 3:20and a phone number you can be reached
- 3:21at.
- 3:27I said I'm sorry I missed most of that.
- 3:35Okay.
- 3:38Um,
- 3:41before I ask you any questions, a well,
- 3:44let me ask you. You understand English?
- 3:46>> Yes.
- 3:47>> Okay. You You write it, you speak it,
- 3:49everything I've been saying. You
- 3:50>> Okay.
- 3:52>> Um, where do you work?
- 3:54>> I am currently not working at the
- 3:56moment.
- 3:56>> Okay. I'm going to read this to you.
- 4:01>> Okay.
- 4:01>> Okay. Did they let you clean your hands?
- 4:03He said, "Yes, they clean my hands."
- 4:04Okay.
- 4:05Um, let me start here.
- 4:09>> These are what are called Miranda
- 4:10warnings. Okay.
- 4:11>> Okay.
- 4:12>> Before I ask you any questions, I want
- 4:14you to advise you of your rights under
- 4:15the law. Do you understand? I'm a police
- 4:17officer.
- 4:17>> Correct.
- 4:18>> Okay. Okay. I'm going to I'm going to
- 4:19write down your answers here. All right.
- 4:21>> Okay.
- 4:25>> You have the right to remain silent.
- 4:26That is, you need not talk to me or
- 4:28answer any questions if you don't want
- 4:29to.
- 4:30>> You understand that?
- 4:32>> Okay. And
- 4:35You have the right to talk to an
- 4:37attorney
- 4:39before talking to me
- 4:42and have an attorney or parent I don't
- 4:44know why that's in there here with you
- 4:46during questioning now or later. Do you
- 4:48understand?
- 4:55>> If you cannot afford to retain your own
- 4:56attorney and want an attorney, one will
- 4:58be appointed for you before we ask you
- 4:59any questions.
- 5:03If you decide to answer questions now
- 5:05without an attorney present, you will
- 5:08still have the right to stop answering
- 5:09my questions at any time until you talk
- 5:11to an attorney.
- 5:15>> Should you talk to me, anything you say
- 5:17can and will be used against you in a
- 5:19court of law and I'm going to add or for
- 5:21you if that if that ever comes to be or
- 5:24not.
- 5:28Knowing and understanding your rights,
- 5:30have I explained to them to you? Are you
- 5:32willing to answer my questions without
- 5:33an attorney?
- 5:34>> At the moment, yes. Okay.
- 5:39>> Have you previously requested any law
- 5:40enforcement officer to allow you to
- 5:42speak to an attorney?
- 5:43>> No, at this time.
- 5:45>> Okay.
- 5:47>> Again,
- 5:48you know, sorry that you're here in
- 5:50reference to all this, but we need to
- 5:52kind of find out what happened.
- 5:55>> All right. Okay. So, I'm going to
- 5:58let you start earlier in the day. Start
- 6:01from the time you woke up yesterday.
- 6:05>> Okay.
- 6:05>> Okay. And just kind of tell me how the
- 6:08day went up to and after we showed up.
- 6:11>> Okay.
- 6:12>> Okay.
- 6:13>> Um well, that day in the daytime, she
- 6:16went to a friend's house. Um so, they
- 6:19kind of went out while I stayed home.
- 6:22Um,
- 6:24you know, they I guess were drinking or
- 6:26whatever they were doing there. Uh, when
- 6:27I was home alone, um, I guess it was
- 6:30around maybe almost 11, maybe 11:00.
- 6:36Uh, she asked
- 6:37>> 11:00,
- 6:38>> like 11:00 p.m.
- 6:39>> Okay. So, about that time when I left
- 6:41the house,
- 6:42>> um, uh, I went to, she requested I pick
- 6:45her up from the house that she was at,
- 6:48which was a friend of hers. Well,
- 6:49actually, she was a friend of hers. Um,
- 6:52and I went to pick her up. We, uh, you
- 6:55know, I guess, um, Morgan was having a
- 6:58bad day. Uh, we went to go to a, um,
- 7:02hotel outside. Hotel Diplomat. It's like
- 7:05a little bar area outside. Um, so we
- 7:09went, well, we had some drinks and, um,
- 7:13and they went in the pool. Um,
- 7:17I guess they had already been drinking.
- 7:19Um, I had a one drink and then I said I
- 7:24would like to go home. So I I am I'm
- 7:27going home but uh the reason why I was
- 7:31uh pressing to go home was because I saw
- 7:34that u my girl was drunk. Um when she
- 7:39gets a little drunk she gets a little
- 7:41belligerent or it's a little angry. So,
- 7:42I kind of just wanted to go home and um
- 7:45so we went home and Magic went quickly
- 7:48to bed. Um during these times, I mean,
- 7:52we've been having hard times during the
- 7:54week, if not the month. Uh she's been
- 7:57very uh erratic and angry, especially
- 8:00when she drinking. And I guess I I was
- 8:04just so used to this happening, I just
- 8:05wanted to go to sleep and go to bed.
- 8:07um you know she's been very um you know
- 8:10claiming to be claiming to you know you
- 8:14know want to leave and I'm okay well
- 8:17then let me go to sleep and you go do
- 8:19your thing. Um, but she just keeps
- 8:22coming back and baring me and screaming
- 8:24at me and yelling at me and you know I
- 8:27was just listen I I want you out just
- 8:30you can go outside cuz you can leave if
- 8:31you go to the couch or whatever but she
- 8:34was just kept coming back in kept coming
- 8:37back in and I tried to the door you was
- 8:40a door that was broken uh the front door
- 8:43to the thing I usually have a weight to
- 8:44put in front was broken because she was
- 8:47attempting to come back and I broken it
- 8:50in to prevent it and that's why it was
- 8:52broken. And so I had been putting
- 8:55weights in front of the door to keep it
- 8:57from coming back inside and to see that
- 8:59there should be ways by the door. Um so
- 9:01she kept barging back in and I'm like
- 9:03listen I I don't want to have this
- 9:06conversation when you're drunk. And
- 9:07>> this is tonight.
- 9:08>> That was tonight. Yeah. So I mean other
- 9:10nights this has been happening is her,
- 9:12you know, being drunk and bullying.
- 9:13>> I I just was make sure I'm following the
- 9:15story properly.
- 9:16>> Yeah. So, I mean, because I'm I'm
- 9:17telling you what led up to this because
- 9:20at this tonight, I was just going to
- 9:23bed, going to sleep, trying to avoid the
- 9:25problem, trying to avoid um when she
- 9:27gets like that because, you know, she's
- 9:29angry. You know, she has a lot of things
- 9:30going on in her life that has been
- 9:32pissing her off. And I guess sometimes,
- 9:34you know, I become the punching bag
- 9:35part. And um you know but this you know
- 9:38I just wanted to sleep and I was in the
- 9:40bed and she just kept coming in and
- 9:42coming in and barging and barging and at
- 9:45some point I she just threw herself in
- 9:48the bed and I had to tell her please get
- 9:50out. I'd rather you just sleep on the
- 9:52couch and um you know she was just like
- 9:55no I'm not going to leave. And I'm like
- 9:57well I I think you should leave because
- 9:59you know I don't want you here and and
- 10:01you're going to get angry and I'm really
- 10:03sick and tired of this type of drunk
- 10:05behavior. So I said again, requesting
- 10:07her to leave. She didn't she didn't want
- 10:09to leave again. So then at this point, I
- 10:12dragged her by her feet off the bed
- 10:14like, "If you're not going to leave, I'm
- 10:16going to drag you by the feet and get
- 10:17off." Actually, was the blanket I'm
- 10:19pulling on. And as I'm pulling her by
- 10:22her legs, then she I have these those
- 10:24two uh spears. God, I don't know why I
- 10:27have them, but I have these two spears.
- 10:29It's uh I'm a martial artist, so I I
- 10:31guess I I put them in the decorator that
- 10:34has a didn't think it would be bad. They
- 10:36have uh covers on them. Um never thought
- 10:39it would be bad. And I guess when I'm
- 10:42pulling her off the bed to the door, she
- 10:45had grabbed it. It had snapped. And I
- 10:49guess because I didn't realize anything
- 10:50had happened until I got to the door.
- 10:53When I turned around, I saw it in her.
- 10:56And then that's when everything
- 10:57happened. And then I saw it in her and I
- 11:00freaked out and I grabbed told Morgan to
- 11:03call 911 and Morgan is a EMT or an XM
- 11:08and she assisted me. We we called 911.
- 11:10911 was on the phone while we tried to
- 11:13resuscitate her or you know try to
- 11:15prevent anything worse from happening
- 11:17and at that point well that's all I
- 11:20remember.
- 11:21was blood everywhere and I was freaking
- 11:22out and
- 11:23>> that's when everybody finally came and
- 11:27>> it was on I I believe we were still on
- 11:29the phone with the uh 911 call while we
- 11:32were trying to assess it and that's as
- 11:35much as I remember.
- 11:36>> Okay. Well, I'm going to I'm going to
- 11:39ask you some questions and maybe to help
- 11:41so I can help clarify everything as the
- 11:43day went. Okay. So, do you remember what
- 11:46time they
- 11:47>> remember what time it was? left to go to
- 11:50the friend's house or your
- 11:51>> It was daytime. It was pretty early. It
- 11:53could have been uh afternoon.
- 11:55>> Mhm.
- 11:55>> Yeah.
- 11:56>> Like, do you have any idea what time?
- 11:58>> Couldn't say exactly.
- 12:00>> Do you remember whose friend the friend?
- 12:02>> Do I know who the friend was? Yes, it
- 12:03was Carrie.
- 12:04>> Carrie? Do you know Carrie's last name?
- 12:06>> Um, shoot. No, I don't.
- 12:08>> Okay.
- 12:10>> All right. [ __ ] No, I don't.
- 12:12>> Uh, you have a cell phone?
- 12:13>> I do.
- 12:14>> All right. The number you gave me is
- 12:15your cell phone.
- 12:16>> That's correct.
- 12:17>> Okay. And it should be at the location
- 12:19that we we left everything off
- 12:21>> um in the cell phone.
- 12:24Would you have the address that you went
- 12:27to Carrie?
- 12:27>> Yes. She had text me where to go.
- 12:30>> Okay.
- 12:30>> Yeah.
- 12:32>> Um
- 12:32>> Okay. So, so you drove over to Carrie's?
- 12:36>> That's right.
- 12:36>> They texted you around 11:00ish.
- 12:39>> Yeah. About 11:00ish. Um to go pick her
- 12:41up cuz they were I don't know heated or
- 12:44something was wrong at this point. Um,
- 12:47>> they said something was wrong.
- 12:48>> Well, they were heated. That's all I
- 12:50found. That's why I like, "Why do you
- 12:51want me to pick you up?" Because they
- 12:53took an Uber over there and I was like,
- 12:54"Why don't you just take an Uber back?"
- 12:56Um, no, but she was I don't know. She
- 12:58was saying that I wanted you to pick me
- 13:00up. So, you know, I didn't want to upset
- 13:02her anymore. And like I said, she's been
- 13:05having hard times, you know.
- 13:06>> And this is on the phone.
- 13:07>> Yeah.
- 13:07>> You haven't You're talking to her right
- 13:09now?
- 13:09>> On the phone, right? Exactly. She was
- 13:11already over there. They had taken the
- 13:12Uber over there. Um, so when I talked to
- 13:15her on the phone, she was, you know,
- 13:17requesting that I pick her up. She said,
- 13:19"I'll text you the address, please. I
- 13:20want you to come pick me up. It' be, you
- 13:22know, nice or better." Like, I don't
- 13:24know what they were arguing about, but
- 13:26it was she wanted me to pick her up.
- 13:28>> But there was an argument between
- 13:30>> Oh, Carrie and her maybe or something
- 13:32like that. Okay. All I know is
- 13:34>> she didn't get into it with you.
- 13:35>> No, I mean, and when I went to pick him
- 13:37up, everybody was together, so it didn't
- 13:38look like it was a big argument. Maybe,
- 13:40you know, just girls being girls. Um,
- 13:42but something had happened that she
- 13:45wanted me to go pick her up instead of
- 13:47just taking over.
- 13:48>> And yeah, then Morgan was having a a
- 13:51rough day. I don't really know much
- 13:52about it. Um, but I know she needed, you
- 13:55know, a drink and relax and stress. And
- 13:57this place that we took was uh like
- 14:00across, excuse me, across the way from
- 14:03my house. So, I thought this was
- 14:04>> And the name of that hotel is
- 14:06>> is the diplomat.
- 14:07>> Okay. The one on A1A.
- 14:09>> Yes, that's the one. It's a nice place.
- 14:11It was nice and cozy. I thought, you
- 14:13know, let the girls have some time, jump
- 14:15in the pool and, you know, have some
- 14:17drinks and then go home.
- 14:19>> But, you know, that that's pretty much
- 14:21what we did.
- 14:22>> But at the this time, I started
- 14:24realizing my girlfriend is very drunk.
- 14:27And already I have triggers because I
- 14:29know when she gets drunk, she starts to
- 14:31be belligerent and angry. And I was
- 14:34like, listen, let's just go home. And
- 14:35so, that's exactly what we did. Uh I
- 14:39believe it was around 1:00 that we had
- 14:41left. Um
- 14:45I'm not too sure. I do a receipt for the
- 14:49uh
- 14:49>> Mhm.
- 14:50>> So I think the receipt might be in the
- 14:52pocket. I don't know exactly
- 14:53>> in the back pocket that the clothes that
- 14:55we just took off.
- 14:56>> It it might have been there. Yeah. Or it
- 14:58could have been in the wallet
- 15:00or somewhere in the pocket.
- 15:02>> You used your credit card.
- 15:03>> We used the credit card. Yeah. And it
- 15:04should have the time where we left. So,
- 15:07just to make sure what time that was.
- 15:09And it was pretty easy. When I went in
- 15:11the house, I just went right to the bed
- 15:13because I already knew that she was
- 15:15going to start to act up and she was
- 15:17ready.
- 15:17>> So, you just you laid down in the
- 15:18clothes that you were out in?
- 15:19>> I already went to the room, just closed
- 15:20the door and
- 15:21>> Well, I'm saying you went into the bed
- 15:22with the clothes that you were out in.
- 15:24You didn't change?
- 15:25>> No, I didn't change at all. That's why I
- 15:26still had them on. I didn't change at
- 15:27all. I just went right into the bed and
- 15:29closed the door. And yeah, then she
- 15:32starts coming in and being belligerent.
- 15:34Look, I don't want to talk anymore.
- 15:36maybe when you're sober. Um, that was
- 15:38it. I mean, she kept coming back in, but
- 15:40again, it was just because it's been
- 15:42happening like for the whole month. It's
- 15:45just what she's drinking is just barging
- 15:47in there, getting angry, you know,
- 15:48threatening to kill herself and freaking
- 15:50me out and, you know, and it's not good
- 15:52for my guest. And I'm trying to keep the
- 15:54keys and, you know, at this point, I
- 15:56just put the the uh weight in front of
- 16:00the door and hope she doesn't keep
- 16:01barging in. It's not that it's a
- 16:02deterrent, but she kept barging in and
- 16:05she kept going in and she wouldn't
- 16:07leave. And at the last minute, she just
- 16:09jumps on the bed. And that's when I was
- 16:11like, "Lord, please leave. Please, I
- 16:13just want you to leave. I just want you
- 16:14to go to the go to the living room,
- 16:16sleep it off, whatever. Just let me stay
- 16:18here." And yeah, and she said, "No, I'm
- 16:21not going to leave." And you know, you
- 16:22know, you and belligerent. And I was
- 16:25like, "Look, I I can't take it anymore."
- 16:27So, I grabbed her her ankles and and I
- 16:30started pulling. And I guess that's
- 16:31exactly what happened when she I guess
- 16:33when she was going off the bed, she had
- 16:35grabbed this stick and it went down,
- 16:38cracked. And I didn't realize anything
- 16:40had happened until I was already like
- 16:44right where we were. I don't know if we
- 16:46were there, but it was right by the
- 16:48mirror.
- 16:49>> Okay.
- 16:50>> Right. Right in front of the bathroom.
- 16:52So right there is when I saw
- 16:55this was in her. And she didn't say
- 16:57anything. She didn't screaming or
- 16:59anything. I just saw it in her. And when
- 17:02I took it out, I saw the damage. I saw
- 17:05the blood spill.
- 17:06>> So, you took the knife out of her?
- 17:08>> I took cuz it was in
- 17:09>> the spear.
- 17:09>> The spear. The spear tip. It was in her.
- 17:11Yes. I I took it out and that's when it
- 17:16all spilling out and I freaked out and I
- 17:18told Morgan to call 911 and she did.
- 17:22That's what my recollection is.
- 17:25>> So, after you pulled it out is when you
- 17:27told Morgan to call 911.
- 17:28>> Yes. Well, when I realized the damage
- 17:32comes in and once it happened, that's
- 17:34when I try to hold down the blood. I see
- 17:38that there's blood on the floor. I freak
- 17:40out. I I open the door to go tell
- 17:43Morgan, "Please to call 911." She does.
- 17:46She comes into the room. I'm pressing.
- 17:48She starts the CPR. 911 is on the phone.
- 17:51She had left right there by the
- 17:54um I have a little fake fireplace. So,
- 17:57she left it right there. And they talked
- 17:59him talked us through it while we were
- 18:01going through it the whole time. So we
- 18:03were, you know, I was breathing and she
- 18:05was pumping and I was breathing and
- 18:08that's it. I never done it before, but
- 18:10>> Okay. So
- 18:13does uh she comes in the room, you ask
- 18:17her to leave, she doesn't do it. Is
- 18:20there anything else that goes on
- 18:22>> that I asked her to leave
- 18:23>> after that? Yeah.
- 18:24>> She comes back. Are you yelling at her?
- 18:27No, she's yelling at me. I wasn't
- 18:28yelling at her.
- 18:29>> Screaming.
- 18:30>> I was telling her to get out. That was
- 18:32about it. Like, I don't want this. You
- 18:33know, living is sober. Please leave.
- 18:36Please go out to And that's if I was
- 18:38yelling that. Yes. And I was yelling.
- 18:40>> Does she What does she actually say to
- 18:42you?
- 18:43>> Well, she was just saying, "No, I'm not
- 18:44going to leave." And you know, and
- 18:46you're going to have to throw me out of
- 18:47the house. I'm like, "I don't want to
- 18:49throw you out of the house. I just want
- 18:50you to leave the room." Um, and she was,
- 18:53"Oh, you're going to have to kill me."
- 18:54And I'm I don't want to kill you. I
- 18:57don't want to do that. I just want you
- 18:58out. I just want you to go out of the
- 18:59living room. And that's where I grabbed
- 19:01her. I was like, I had to do what I had
- 19:03to do to get her up. And I grabbed her
- 19:05by the ankle. And that's where that's
- 19:07where it happened. That was a stupid
- 19:09mistake.
- 19:11>> You're married to her?
- 19:13>> Not legally.
- 19:14>> Not legally.
- 19:15>> Not legally.
- 19:16>> But her last name is
- 19:18>> She changed her name from
- 19:20>> Okay. So you never went to Never had the
- 19:22forms sign on hand or any of that stuff?
- 19:24>> No. She would like that.
- 19:25>> Okay.
- 19:26>> She's a little different.
- 19:29>> But are you considered husband? Like do
- 19:32you consider each other like husband and
- 19:33wife?
- 19:35>> I would consider it um during our best
- 19:38at times. But um like I said, this was
- 19:40going towards the end.
- 19:42>> This was just her unhappiness and her
- 19:44screaming and yelling consistently and
- 19:46and baraging me and doing it in front of
- 19:48people, you know. And so this was it was
- 19:50not just in the room, you know. This was
- 19:53out in the open, you know. This is why I
- 19:54just went into the bed, you know,
- 19:56because I don't think she was empty.
- 19:59>> Okay. Uh, so these two spears.
- 20:04>> Well, there was the one that went,
- 20:06>> right? But you're saying there's two.
- 20:06>> There's two at the bed. Yeah.
- 20:08>> They're at the foot at the bed. Of the
- 20:09bed.
- 20:09>> The foot of the bed. Yeah.
- 20:10>> So, each corner?
- 20:11>> Each corner. Yeah.
- 20:13>> And they're being held up by how?
- 20:15>> Uh, uh, tie wraps on the bottom
- 20:18>> of the of the legs of the bed.
- 20:19>> Yes. So, they tie wraps on the bottom of
- 20:21the bed. So if it had cracked, it had to
- 20:24have cracked, I don't know, towards the
- 20:26middle of the spear area, the black
- 20:29part.
- 20:29>> So it had to have cracked in the weakest
- 20:31part.
- 20:33>> Okay.
- 20:34>> All right.
- 20:37>> And did you actually see her grab the
- 20:41spear?
- 20:42>> I saw her grabbing the spear as I was
- 20:44pulling her, but I just because I'm
- 20:46pulling her and my back is to her as I'm
- 20:48pulling her. So I do hear a snap. Um,
- 20:52and that by that point, it's not too far
- 20:55away from the bed to the back where the
- 20:57bathroom is. It's right there. And
- 20:59that's when I had turned around and I
- 21:01had was pulling and then I saw it in her
- 21:04and then I stopped
- 21:06again.
- 21:08That's why I didn't realize the damage.
- 21:10I really didn't realize what had
- 21:12happened.
- 21:12>> Was there any screaming?
- 21:13>> She didn't scream. Nothing. She didn't
- 21:16make a sound. She didn't make a sound.
- 21:18And when I had got to pull it out, I saw
- 21:22a lot of blood coming out of out of her
- 21:24throat. Uh, that's when I panicked
- 21:26again. That's when I got Morgan. And she
- 21:30didn't scream at all. She didn't yell
- 21:31out, nothing. I didn't really even
- 21:33notice the damage. I I thought even just
- 21:35having it in her hand maybe. I I didn't
- 21:38even realize it was really
- 21:40>> Did you So when you pulled it out, how
- 21:44much of the shaft of the sphere? It was
- 21:48just well the head was it but the the
- 21:50shaft might have been about that tall.
- 21:52It was broken obviously. So
- 21:53>> So out of her body the shaft was this
- 21:57about this long
- 22:00>> I would say. Yeah. The black area part
- 22:02was about this long. But again I didn't
- 22:05realize that there was damage until
- 22:08I had
- 22:08>> How long do you think the blade is?
- 22:11>> Pretty long. It was the blade might have
- 22:13been about I don't know 8 8 in maybe
- 22:16even 10 but it was about it's pretty low
- 22:19blade
- 22:21>> and
- 22:23they they have sheets on them.
- 22:25>> I'm sorry.
- 22:26>> They have sheets on.
- 22:27>> Yeah, they had uh leather sheets on top
- 22:29of them which is why I didn't think they
- 22:30would be a threat or a danger. Um and
- 22:32they
- 22:33>> So where's the other sheet?
- 22:34>> Where's the other sheath? It should have
- 22:37been on the deck. That's why I saw I
- 22:39didn't
- 22:40>> Did you see it on the ground?
- 22:42>> I can tell it was dark. Yeah, because I
- 22:44had the lights off. I was trying to
- 22:45sleep. So, it could have been on the
- 22:47ground,
- 22:48>> but if it had cracked, it could have
- 22:50just fallen off and then as it
- 22:52approaches I I haven't seen it during
- 22:55that whole ordeal at all. So,
- 23:00>> did you ever push her or anything?
- 23:02>> No, I only pulled her off the bed trying
- 23:04to get her out of the I didn't push her
- 23:05at all.
- 23:09How do you know
- 23:12this other uh woman that's staying
- 23:15there?
- 23:16>> I'm sorry.
- 23:16>> This other woman, Morgan.
- 23:18>> Morgan. Yeah, she's a ghost.
- 23:19>> What do you mean?
- 23:20>> She's a ghost. She was just staying with
- 23:22us.
- 23:23>> Is she your friend or her friend?
- 23:26>> Yeah, it was really her friend.
- 23:29>> From where?
- 23:30>> She's from Colorado.
- 23:33>> She's you visiting.
- 23:35>> She was visiting. She's visiting
- 23:37>> for about a week. Yeah, that's how I I
- 23:39because you have to when they when I
- 23:41have visitors, you have to let the the
- 23:43building know. So, yeah, she was about
- 23:45to be there for about a week.
- 23:48>> Was she paying you guys?
- 23:50>> She was I think she was giving money to
- 23:52my girl. I'm not I didn't receive any
- 23:55money from her, but um I think maybe
- 23:57they had an arrangement or something.
- 23:59>> Mhm.
- 23:59>> Yeah.
- 24:01>> So, did uh but do they know each other
- 24:04prior than this last week? These last
- 24:05three weeks, I believe. So yes, again I
- 24:08I didn't know her until
- 24:10>> she had come she had come over but they
- 24:12had been talking to each other and
- 24:14knowing each other. So they were
- 24:16>> prior to the beginning of this month.
- 24:17>> Prior to the Yeah.
- 24:19>> And um
- 24:22I mean you did you guys have a
- 24:24conversation about having her stay
- 24:26there?
- 24:27>> Yes. So they asked she asked is it okay
- 24:29if my parent stays there? And I said
- 24:30yes. Okay. That's fine.
- 24:33>> Okay. And the dog?
- 24:35>> Her dog? Yeah, I have one, too. I have a
- 24:38service dog. She has a service dog.
- 24:40>> Oh, yeah.
- 24:40>> Yeah.
- 24:43>> Do you guys ever argue about anything?
- 24:45>> Uh, being organ?
- 24:46>> No, you and Sylvia.
- 24:49>> Do we argue about
- 24:50>> about anything else other than maybe
- 24:52when she gets drunk and being
- 24:53belligerent? Have you guys argued about
- 24:55anything else later
- 24:56>> for this for today or last few days?
- 24:59>> Yeah. Yeah. Plenty of that. Plenty of
- 25:01that in basic marriage stuff. I'm not
- 25:03doing a lot. I'm not talking. I'm not,
- 25:06you know, communicating or connecting.
- 25:08Um, yeah, she's been she's been very
- 25:10very um forward with that. Um, but she's
- 25:14also going through a lot of stuff with
- 25:16her mom, you know, um, having family
- 25:19issues that she was going through. And
- 25:20so, I think sometimes it it gets to her.
- 25:23And so, sometimes I think it's a
- 25:25misdirection of anger because, you know,
- 25:27she can't really scream at her mom.
- 25:29Mom's mal. But she does scream on me.
- 25:33So, you know, calls me a piece of [ __ ]
- 25:35You know,
- 25:36>> I'm not this, I'm not that
- 25:39good basics.
- 25:41>> Mhm.
- 25:42>> So, I wouldn't say that there's one
- 25:44thing that we argue about aside from a
- 25:47disconnection.
- 25:49So, that's what
- 25:51>> How long have you two been together?
- 25:53>> About two years. A little more. Yeah. A
- 25:55little more than two years. Yeah.
- 26:00Have the police ever been to your place
- 26:01before?
- 26:02>> There was a time that um because she's a
- 26:05nose bleeder, like she bleeds a lot from
- 26:07her nose, um that we had argued and she
- 26:09had ran out and there was blood out her
- 26:11nose and so the security thought it was
- 26:13a physical act and and then it was then
- 26:16Yes. And I was arrested for some
- 26:19domestic violence. Um but those cases
- 26:21were dropped because none of that was
- 26:23really true. And um yeah, and that was
- 26:25it. What time do you think you got back
- 26:28to the hotel or back to the condo?
- 26:31>> I suspect around 1.
- 26:33>> Around 1.
- 26:34>> Yeah, I suspect.
- 26:36>> So you guys were there for a while
- 26:38>> at the condo?
- 26:38>> Mhm.
- 26:40>> I don't know. I was trying to sleep.
- 26:43So whether I was
- 26:44>> about an hour
- 26:45>> perhaps.
- 26:47So there was a lot of back and forth of
- 26:49her coming in and out. Like I said,
- 26:51being a religion, yelling and screaming
- 26:53>> and kept coming back in. I looked in. So
- 26:55perhaps an hour passed.
- 26:57>> Mhm.
- 26:57>> That's true.
- 26:58>> Um,
- 27:01did you do anything with your phone or
- 27:03anything like that when you guys when
- 27:04you first got back? Like would we be a
- 27:07way that we could tell other than video?
- 27:10>> No. Other than other times that we had
- 27:13argued. I have recorded her threatening
- 27:15me to kill herself or
- 27:17>> Did you ever try to get her out for
- 27:19that?
- 27:19>> I tried, but she wouldn't she wouldn't
- 27:21go. And so, you know, I I thought we
- 27:24could work through it, you know, if she
- 27:26blames me a lot. Um, but her dad had a
- 27:29certain sense. So, you know, she's uh to
- 27:32her was
- 27:34easier for her to do it. But yeah, you
- 27:36know, like I said, I had broken the door
- 27:39trying to save her from doing that,
- 27:42which is why my door was broken in the
- 27:44first place. And so I I just have
- 27:46recordings of her
- 27:49coming back and forth. Other times where
- 27:51nothing had happened, just her coming in
- 27:54and and screaming and yelling and
- 27:56throwing fits and and you know just
- 27:58carrying on. I just call them fits.
- 28:01>> Mhm.
- 28:01>> So excuse me. That's what she does. She
- 28:03does in front of people. So she kind of
- 28:04has fits. You know, she just starts
- 28:06acting out and rage. Um but I have
- 28:09recorded those. Uh those are other times
- 28:12though. Nothing um like
- 28:16So, she jumps on the bed,
- 28:19>> right?
- 28:21>> You grab the sheets.
- 28:24>> No, no. I get up. I tell her, "Please
- 28:26leave." I tell her, "Look, I want
- 28:28>> Yeah.
- 28:28>> Yeah. So, I I we're having a discussion
- 28:30while she's on the bed and I'm off the
- 28:33bed." And that's when I had at some
- 28:35point where she's not leaving. She's not
- 28:37going. She's getting belligerent and I I
- 28:39just couldn't take it at this point. So,
- 28:41I just said, "All right, well then I'm
- 28:42letting drag you out." So I'm standing
- 28:44at the foot of the bed and I pull her
- 28:46leg and she's just going with it kind
- 28:49of, you know, playing the the dummy role
- 28:52where just standing there holding up and
- 28:56that was it.
- 28:57>> Mhm.
- 28:57>> Unless she must have grabbed stab.
- 29:01>> Was it her leg or her or the sheets?
- 29:04>> Well, I guess the leg and the sheets at
- 29:07the same time because her feet are right
- 29:09in the blankets. So as I'm pulling her,
- 29:11the blankets are coming with us.
- 29:13Sorry about my used to.
- 29:14>> Mhm. So you're you're pulling her from
- 29:16the the uh
- 29:17>> from the ankle from behind behind the
- 29:19ankle. So I might have the sheets with
- 29:21my hands.
- 29:23>> Okay. And you're pulling
- 29:26>> towards the door towards the door,
- 29:28>> right?
- 29:29>> And the spears are at the edges at the
- 29:31foot of the bed.
- 29:32>> On the foot of the bed. I'm pulling it
- 29:35towards the door. And I guess again
- 29:38onto the spear. So which because I I I
- 29:41haven't gone in so I don't know which
- 29:44>> which spear was it.
- 29:47>> If I was looking at the door
- 29:48>> if you're coming from the door
- 29:49>> you're coming from the door it would
- 29:51have to be on the right side.
- 29:53>> Okay.
- 29:53>> Yeah. That would be like her side. But
- 29:55>> does it have to be or is it?
- 29:57>> Well because if I'm looking at the door
- 29:59it would have to be on the right side.
- 30:02>> But that saying that is that is the one
- 30:04that's broken.
- 30:04>> That is the one that's broken.
- 30:05>> Okay.
- 30:07Okay. This was her side.
- 30:18>> Thanks for being patient.
- 30:22>> Um,
- 30:35can you do me a favor?
- 30:37fraud your room with the bed and how you
- 30:41pulled her off the bed.
- 30:44>> Show my room with the bed.
- 30:52>> Yeah.
- 30:55So, she was here
- 31:01and I pulled her ankles from here over
- 31:05here.
- 31:09just wanted her to leave.
- 31:11>> H
- 31:12>> I just wanted her to leave the room.
- 31:15>> I don't know what those that would
- 31:16happen.
- 31:20>> And does she have family
- 31:24>> here?
- 31:25>> Mhm.
- 31:25>> No.
- 31:26>> Where is her family?
- 31:28>> Uh Mexico.
- 31:30>> No other relatives here?
- 31:32>> Oh, yeah. Well, uh, she might have a
- 31:36distant aunt somewhere in Orlando.
- 31:38Um, but I don't think they talk.
- 31:41>> Do you know any of her relatives in
- 31:42Mexico?
- 31:43>> Only in Mexico.
- 31:44>> Do you know any of them?
- 31:45>> Only in Mexico.
- 31:46>> That's what I'm asking. Do you know any
- 31:47of them?
- 31:48>> I by name. Yeah. Like, but they're in
- 31:50Mexico. I wouldn't say I know them. You
- 31:53know, we we've met, we've visited.
- 31:56>> Yeah, that's about it.
- 32:01>> And her mom's in Mexico. Mom's still
- 32:02alive.
- 32:03>> Yeah, my mom's still alive and she's
- 32:04having really bad problems with her mom.
- 32:06But this is what I think was a lot of
- 32:08the anger issues that she was having.
- 32:10She's been having a really hard time
- 32:12with her mom stealing her money and
- 32:16possibly assisting her dad's side. We
- 32:18don't know, but she's been very upset.
- 32:21>> Does she have any uh
- 32:24brother sisters?
- 32:25>> She has a sister
- 32:27>> in Mexico. In Mexico.
- 32:30Okay.
- 32:34Just do me a favor cuz so based off of
- 32:39what we have right here, just put your
- 32:43initials right here to say that. So that
- 32:47>> Yeah.
- 32:51Thank you.
- 32:55>> We're going to probably talk a little
- 32:57bit later. Okay. You have to be patient.
- 32:59This is the process that happens when
- 33:02stuff like this happens. Okay.
- 33:05>> So, I mean in in your eyes, this is what
- 33:10>> an accident.
- 33:11>> Okay.
- 33:12>> Absolutely. Okay.
- 33:16>> All right. Is there anything else that
- 33:18you want to add right now that you can
- 33:20think of that I might ask?
- 33:28Um,
- 33:32I'm going to end this for now. Okay.
- 33:34We're going to talk a little bit later.
- 33:36You okay with that? I got to do a couple
- 33:38more things. Cool.
- 33:39>> You know, I want to So, you know, I got
- 33:41to, you know, there's some things that I
- 33:42got to I got do my own thing and then I
- 33:45might have I might have questions for
- 33:47you. I don't know. Okay.
- 33:48>> Yet. So, but I am going to let you know
- 33:51that we are probably going to talk later
- 33:52either way. Okay. Okay.
- 33:55Um, I mean, do you know her condition
- 33:57right now? No,
- 33:59>> I don't.
- 34:05>> So, you don't know if she's alive or
- 34:07dead?
- 34:10>> I hope she's okay.
- 34:13>> Okay.
- 34:15All right. The statement is concluded
- 34:20July 12th, 2019 at 8:05 hours.
- 34:25Okay, I'll be back in a little bit. Um,
- 34:30take him back. Put him back in the car.
- 34:32Okay. And I know
- 34:35somebody might want to switch out.
- 34:36>> Yeah, I'll have somebody switch out.
- 34:38>> All right. And um, you know, we'll talk
- 34:41in a little bit. All right. I'll walk
- 34:43down.
- 34:55Hey, how you doing?
- 34:58>> You all right?
- 35:00>> Yeah. No cold.
- 35:02>> Cold?
- 35:03>> Freezing them out?
- 35:05>> What?
- 35:05>> Huh?
- 35:06>> Was he freezing you out?
- 35:07>> No, no, no. I was just changing
- 35:09temperature.
- 35:10>> Is it cold in here?
- 35:11>> Well, from the car to here. Yeah, I can
- 35:13tell the difference. It's
- 35:16um
- 35:22Are you okay with uh us doing a a bugle
- 35:26swab?
- 35:28>> Swab.
- 35:28>> Bugle swab, which is uh we use Q-tip
- 35:31swab your mouth. It's for your DNA.
- 35:35>> I mean, your DNA is going to be all over
- 35:36the place,
- 35:37>> but this is one of the procedures that
- 35:39we're going to have to do. It's either
- 35:40you give it or we end up writing a
- 35:42warrant to get it. It's good.
- 35:44>> Like you said, DNA is everywhere in your
- 35:46house.
- 35:47>> Yeah.
- 35:49>> I'm just going to wait. I'm going to
- 35:50wait for him. We'll get that done first
- 35:52and then we'll talk some more. Okay.
- 35:55You need anything else? See, you get to
- 35:57get water.
- 35:58>> I was just really hesitant.
- 36:05Nothing's been moved. We haven't been
- 36:07Nobody else has been in here since since
- 36:09you were in here last.
- 36:13that I'm aware of at least.
- 36:18>> Do you know Morgan's password on her
- 36:21phone?
- 36:22>> Password? I don't know anybody's
- 36:24password.
- 36:37>> Do you know if she has passport on her
- 36:39phone? I never even seen her phone. She
- 36:42has a little wallet or something.
- 36:43>> Do you guys not live together?
- 36:45>> No, she was just visiting us. So, yeah.
- 36:49>> Okay.
- 36:50>> Um, how about
- 36:53>> Morgan, right?
- 36:53>> Oh, well, I'm about to ask you about
- 36:55Silia.
- 36:55>> Silia I did live with. Morgan is a
- 36:58visitor.
- 36:59>> Okay. So, and do you have Sylvia's
- 37:01password?
- 37:02>> I don't have Sylvia's password.
- 37:03>> Right.
- 37:06>> Do you know if she has a password on her
- 37:08phone? I mean, everybody does nowadays,
- 37:10I think.
- 37:11>> A lot of people do, but yeah, there are
- 37:12some people that don't.
- 37:13>> I think it's her face or something.
- 37:14>> She does facial recog.
- 37:17>> That's an Apple phone, right? Or they do
- 37:19that on all the phones now.
- 37:20>> The Galaxy, I think.
- 37:22>> Is it a Galaxy?
- 37:27>> This is a
- 37:29>> You got me?
- 37:30>> Yeah. He He said he's good with it.
- 37:32>> Okay.
- 37:36>> Can I keep that pen?
- 37:37>> Absolutely.
- 37:38cuz it's been I don't like it
- 37:43the be the 12th. Yeah,
- 37:50>> Adam Creswell. Correct.
- 37:52>> 53176.
- 37:53>> I'm sorry.
- 37:54>> 53176.
- 38:16Okay. To reiterate, this is just taking
- 38:19all
- 38:19>> he's going to use a Q-tips one thing.
- 38:21>> Okay.
- 38:22>> He's going to put it in your mouth.
- 38:24>> Okay.
- 38:25>> And he's going to basically collect
- 38:26saliva.
- 38:27>> Yeah.
- 38:27>> Okay.
- 38:28>> And then he's going to put it back in
- 38:30here.
- 38:31>> Okay. And then they're going to take it
- 38:32to the the lab and then they're going to
- 38:36get your DNA sample that way.
- 38:38>> Okay.
- 38:38>> That's what it was for. And then it's
- 38:41used to match up DNA
- 38:43from other evidence on scene.
- 38:46>> Sorry.
- 39:22All these advise
- 39:28you everything from before is a
- 39:31continuation. So technically you're
- 39:32still under oath,
- 39:34>> right? Still under oath.
- 39:36>> Okay. And you're still under the
- 39:38Miranda.
- 39:40>> Okay.
- 39:41So any any uh questions about that?
- 39:44>> Um
- 39:48>> any Right.
- 39:49>> Yeah. Do you have any questions though?
- 39:51like do you
- 39:51>> about my rights
- 39:52>> my rights your rights or any any
- 39:54questions in general
- 39:55>> right now
- 39:58>> right now I'm just waiting to see your
- 40:00question you want to ask so I can answer
- 40:02>> okay
- 40:10>> so when we were at your
- 40:15condo
- 40:22Sorry.
- 40:32and
- 40:34and we saw the uh
- 40:39spear.
- 40:42>> Um the zip ties that you used and
- 40:44everything.
- 40:46>> The zip ties that you used to to lock it
- 40:48up to the uh to the bed.
- 40:50>> Oh, the zip tie was on.
- 40:51>> Yeah. Yeah. Um one second.
- 41:07It's just one of the officers that were
- 41:08over at your place. I guess he probably
- 41:11asking if you can leave. Um,
- 41:18all right. So, when you you're saying
- 41:21that you grabbed her legs, right? Or
- 41:23>> grabbed her ankles.
- 41:24>> You grabbed her ankles.
- 41:25>> Both ankles.
- 41:27Yeah. So, I wanted to get her off. So, I
- 41:30have my hands to pull her off the bed.
- 41:32>> Well, that that's what I'm trying to
- 41:34find out. Did you grab like one leg and
- 41:37pull on it or did you grab both her
- 41:38legs?
- 41:39>> Both legs to try to pull.
- 41:40>> Okay. So, you pull and
- 41:43you showed me this picture here, right?
- 41:47Where you're on the right side of the
- 41:48bed.
- 41:55>> Mhm. and you're trying to pull her off
- 41:57the bed, it's going to turn, right?
- 42:00Because
- 42:00>> off to the side, not down the middle,
- 42:03>> right?
- 42:03>> So, you're on the right side of the bed.
- 42:05Let's pretend this is the bed again.
- 42:06>> Okay?
- 42:07>> And here's the head of the bed,
- 42:08>> right? You have your the windows here,
- 42:12right? Here's the foot of the bed,
- 42:13>> right?
- 42:14>> Here is the side of the bed that you're
- 42:16grabbing her from.
- 42:17>> Correct.
- 42:18>> Here is the spear.
- 42:19>> Spear.
- 42:20>> She's being pulled off the bed
- 42:22>> sideways
- 42:23>> here.
- 42:23>> Yes. And then you have to turn her.
- 42:26>> Yes. To pull this horse.
- 42:28>> Okay.
- 42:28>> And she grabs.
- 42:30>> So I believe because at this point she
- 42:33was had to have grabbed this
- 42:35>> when when
- 42:35>> let's back it up a little bit. Now
- 42:37>> when you grab her legs,
- 42:39>> right?
- 42:40>> Is she on her back?
- 42:42>> Kind of on her back. Um
- 42:45>> which way is her feet facing?
- 42:48>> When you since you have her ankles, her
- 42:49feet are right there. So, are her feet
- 42:52up?
- 42:53>> Yes, they were they were up. They were
- 42:55up. And when I got her off the bed,
- 43:01that's when I
- 43:03turn I'm turning around, so I'm not even
- 43:05really looking at her, but I still have
- 43:08her ankles.
- 43:10>> Okay.
- 43:10>> Um, and I'm trying to move. It's a
- 43:12little difficult to move cuz she's
- 43:14>> So, both her legs are on
- 43:17coming around the side of the bed.
- 43:19>> Right. Right. So, so here here's this
- 43:22piece,
- 43:22>> right?
- 43:23>> Both legs are here.
- 43:25>> Right. So, as I'm
- 43:26>> And then you're pulling this way
- 43:27>> this way. So, at this point, I suspect
- 43:30her arm is already on this
- 43:32>> thing right here.
- 43:34>> And but by that point, I'm already
- 43:37turned around.
- 43:38>> You see her grab?
- 43:39>> I see her grabbing the thing. I see her
- 43:41grabbing when I'm pulling it down.
- 43:42>> Okay. So, you see her grab it,
- 43:44>> right? Um, that's when I try to off the
- 43:47bed. How
- 43:49high
- 43:51off the bed?
- 43:52>> Uhhuh.
- 43:53>> Does she grab
- 43:55>> sha the spear shaft?
- 43:57>> As she's coming off of the as she's
- 44:00coming off the bed, her upper body, her
- 44:02armpit will be right about here.
- 44:05>> Well, that's what I'm saying. Is it Is
- 44:06it Is it
- 44:07>> She's not completely off the bed. She's
- 44:09not completely off the bed because she's
- 44:10still holding on to this still holding
- 44:12on to this thing. M
- 44:14>> um I at this point I figure she'll let
- 44:16it go. I turn around and just keep
- 44:19pulling and
- 44:21>> that's when I get the snap.
- 44:22>> So So here's the bed, right? Here's the
- 44:25level. Here is the plane of the bed.
- 44:27>> Right.
- 44:28>> And here is your spear.
- 44:31>> Right.
- 44:31>> Right. And it continues down.
- 44:33>> Right.
- 44:34>> Does she grab here? Does she grab here?
- 44:38Does she grab here?
- 44:41>> I'm going to be honest. I I don't I
- 44:42really can't recall at what part of the
- 44:45post cuz as I'm looking at her as I'm
- 44:48pulling on
- 44:49>> and there's a little bit of momentum
- 44:51there. So all I do see is it it is it's
- 44:56her holding on to it or
- 44:58>> is it with her hand?
- 45:00>> No, no, no. She's at this point it's
- 45:02right here. But as I'm pulling, she's
- 45:06still holding on to it. So as I
- 45:09>> Okay. So now that motion you're giving
- 45:11me
- 45:12>> is she's grabbing it with her left arm.
- 45:16>> Well, no, she still has it here. She's
- 45:18holding on to it. Yeah, she's holding on
- 45:20to it.
- 45:20>> Well, right. So, but you're saying she's
- 45:22wrapping she's wrapping her right arm.
- 45:25>> She's
- 45:27holding on to it. Yes, I would I would
- 45:29say she was doing that again.
- 45:30>> So, she's more hugging it.
- 45:31>> She's more what
- 45:32>> is she hugging it or does she actually
- 45:34put her hands on it? I I seem to well at
- 45:37least I want to believe that she put her
- 45:39hands on it because it was so properly
- 45:41there. It doesn't make sense for her not
- 45:44to have her hand on it and it was
- 45:46difficult to pull her off. So, it's not
- 45:48like she's sliding willy-nilly. She's
- 45:51holding on to it. So, at this point,
- 45:54she's holding on
- 45:56and she's getting off the bed. I'm still
- 46:00pulling her. I'm turning around.
- 46:04I don't see what happens. All I hear is
- 46:06the snap. I suspect at this point is
- 46:10when the thing it broke. I didn't even
- 46:13see
- 46:15it even in her until I I'm pulling on
- 46:18turn around. Then I see it and I and I
- 46:22saw it in her. I didn't see how bad it
- 46:25was until her blood and the blanket was
- 46:28still on the floor. I had a a black
- 46:30silk. So, be before you go pulling her
- 46:33off the bed,
- 46:36there's
- 46:37Well, how many sheets on the bed?
- 46:40>> Well, there's a quilt. Uh,
- 46:41>> what color is that quilt?
- 46:43>> Gray.
- 46:44>> Okay.
- 46:44>> And
- 46:44>> is she on top of that?
- 46:46>> I don't believe so. Now, I think
- 46:48>> just laying there.
- 46:49>> Yeah, cuz it's kind of like curled up in
- 46:51a ball. It's kind of hot throughout the
- 46:54curled up. Um, and I believe that's
- 46:57where I meant the the the sheet where
- 47:00the black sheet was probably under her
- 47:03as I'm pulling with her because
- 47:05>> is it the black sheet
- 47:07that you that most people normally kind
- 47:10of sleep under
- 47:11>> like it's Yeah.
- 47:12>> And then then you have another sheet
- 47:14that is
- 47:16wrapped around.
- 47:16>> Right. Right.
- 47:17>> So you're talking about the sheet
- 47:19>> a thin sheet a thin black sheet that we
- 47:21usually use to cover ourselves. Not the
- 47:23big quilt. The cons is kind of hardening
- 47:26the quilts. So, it's not something we
- 47:28use often.
- 47:29>> But she wasn't on it. No.
- 47:31>> Okay.
- 47:32>> No.
- 47:33>> And but was she on top of the other
- 47:36sheet?
- 47:37>> I believe she was because as I'm pulling
- 47:39her, the sheet is coming off with her.
- 47:41And so when I get onto the floor, I
- 47:46guess because of the black sheet, I
- 47:48don't really see any blood or anything
- 47:51like that. I didn't hear
- 47:53it. It's it's it's in her. She gives me
- 47:56a look I didn't hear and
- 48:00that's when I saw the wound.
- 48:03And then I I start to freak out. Um and
- 48:06then I I pick up the sheet. I like the
- 48:09sheet because I'm next to her and I see
- 48:11the blood on the floor.
- 48:13That's it. I mean, that's what happened.
- 48:15And then I know the uh EMT guys wants to
- 48:19throw the big sheet on the floor. maybe
- 48:21to soak up the blood of retraction, not
- 48:23the slip. I don't know. But they did
- 48:25throw that thing on the floor. Um, but
- 48:28they were attending to her already, but
- 48:30they threw it on the floor
- 48:31>> and and prior to
- 48:35you trying to pull her off the bed.
- 48:38There was the sheath on the plate,
- 48:40>> right? The sheath was on the bed.
- 48:41>> That's something that's always probably
- 48:42on, right?
- 48:43>> Yeah. Because I have a black a black um
- 48:46the black sheet and then I have a black
- 48:48um the bedspread. Mhm.
- 48:50>> So, I don't know where it ends or where
- 48:52it began, but it's when I'm pulling off,
- 48:54it's it's out. So, she must be on it.
- 48:58>> Well, what my question was the sheath on
- 49:00the blade that's always on.
- 49:02>> Oh, the she was is always on. It's
- 49:04always on. That's why I never would have
- 49:06thought something bad would have
- 49:07happened if I know something would
- 49:08happen. But it's always on. And it's got
- 49:12a little tie on it, a little leather tie
- 49:14on it. It's never come off. But then
- 49:17again, no one's ever broken. Um,
- 49:21yeah. I don't I mean, it started off
- 49:24>> when you turned
- 49:27>> and look
- 49:29>> and saw her on the ground with the
- 49:30blade. I
- 49:31>> didn't see her on the ground.
- 49:32>> She was on her
- 49:33>> She was on her back.
- 49:34>> On her back.
- 49:35>> Right.
- 49:57Sorry if I seem a little stressed out.
- 50:00>> Well,
- 50:03it's quite understandable.
- 50:08The piece that broke.
- 50:11Okay.
- 50:16It is
- 50:30the the shaft to
- 50:35the hand the the beginning of the blade
- 50:38right
- 50:40is 72 in long from or it broke.
- 50:45The blade is 12 in long.
- 50:52Your bed
- 50:55is 2 ft high. Ultra.
- 51:03How
- 51:06can she
- 51:08how can this blade penetrate
- 51:11her from
- 51:13>> those dimensions?
- 51:14>> I could tell you theories, but I don't
- 51:17really know cuz I wasn't looking.
- 51:18>> Mhm.
- 51:19>> All I do know is as it cracks, as I
- 51:22suspected,
- 51:25it's here. She's holding up
- 51:28and it falls.
- 51:30on her or it cracks
- 51:34and because she is she regularly stab
- 51:37herself with it while I'm put carrying
- 51:39her off or
- 51:42>> Okay, let's let's back up.
- 51:44>> Because you're saying she's Is there any
- 51:48documentation to this?
- 51:50>> I have uh evidence, video, andor verbal
- 51:55um discussions with her with her
- 51:58attempting to kill herself.
- 52:00while I am trying to save her or and or
- 52:05threatening to do so. Um,
- 52:09>> has she ever received any medical
- 52:10attention for this?
- 52:12>> When she was young, as I heard when she
- 52:14was younger. Um,
- 52:15>> you're telling recent. You said like
- 52:18>> recently. No, no, not recently. Um, but
- 52:21yeah, she should have and I attempted to
- 52:23take her to the hospital, but she was
- 52:26reluctant. She's threatened to kill
- 52:27herself
- 52:28>> in your presence.
- 52:29>> In my apartment? Yes. Yeah.
- 52:30>> And well, that's what I'm saying. In
- 52:32your with you there.
- 52:33>> She attempted to. Yes.
- 52:35>> And you never called the police.
- 52:36>> I wanted to call the police, but I'm
- 52:39afraid honestly I didn't want her to get
- 52:42hurt. I offered to drive her to the
- 52:44hospital. Um
- 52:47I offered and I we went there and then
- 52:50when we get there, she doesn't even call
- 52:52the hospital. She doesn't want to get
- 52:53out of the car. Um but maybe talk about
- 52:57I'm sorry.
- 52:58>> What hospital?
- 52:59>> This one right here. That's the only one
- 53:01I know.
- 53:02>> Um
- 53:04>> yeah. And she, you know, we talk and
- 53:06she's saying that she's sorry that she's
- 53:10feeling this way and this is because of
- 53:13the bad situation she's been in. She's
- 53:15been going through a lot of stuff.
- 53:17Please forgive. Maybe we can work
- 53:19through this. And so that's what we
- 53:22attempted to do. I didn't. It's not like
- 53:24I wanted her to be sick. It's not like I
- 53:28wanted her to be hurt. Not like I wanted
- 53:31her in jail for whatever reasons.
- 53:33>> Why would she go to jail?
- 53:35>> I don't know. People call cops. You
- 53:37know, people end up in jail for some
- 53:38reason. Maybe.
- 53:40>> Well, she's she hospital.
- 53:42>> That this is true. But in an
- 53:44unreasonable situation, I didn't want
- 53:47her hurt.
- 53:49Um I did want her in the hospital. Um,
- 53:52and she just was reluctant to go. And
- 53:56yes, I've have videotapes of her, you
- 54:00know, getting aggressive and being angry
- 54:02and being very abusive and threatening
- 54:04to do such things
- 54:06>> and then, you know, make scenes and she
- 54:09would do it in front of people. I'm not
- 54:10I'm not the only, you know, like she
- 54:11would do it in front of people. She did
- 54:12it in front of Morgan. She did me. She
- 54:14did it in front of Carrie. She did it in
- 54:16front of a lot of other people out
- 54:18there. like
- 54:19>> she would just make big scenes, throw
- 54:22these huge fits, and they were pretty
- 54:24scary.
- 54:26>> Where did she work?
- 54:28>> Well, she was I had gotten her a job um
- 54:32for a um a distributor. So, she was um
- 54:38I don't know, passing out liquor or
- 54:40something like shots or you know, for a
- 54:42distributor to market
- 54:44>> and that's what she was doing. That was
- 54:46the last thing she was doing. Oh,
- 54:48>> okay.
- 54:48>> Yes, she was a big junkie. And
- 54:53I mean, like I said, I don't know
- 54:55exactly what had happened of how it pins
- 54:57from crack to her
- 55:02except all I can imagine is it holding
- 55:04on and then it goes down.
- 55:07Somehow the sheet comes off,
- 55:09which could if it was upside down.
- 55:12>> All right. So, what you're saying now is
- 55:15>> theory. I was saying to I don't know I
- 55:17was looking at
- 55:18>> from the last point you saw her
- 55:20>> right
- 55:20>> because you turned your body
- 55:22>> is what you're saying
- 55:23>> it was already in her
- 55:25>> what it was already in her it had
- 55:27already happened it snapped it was in
- 55:30her I turned
- 55:33you know I'm I'm still angry because I
- 55:35want her out just you know please just
- 55:38get up and go and she gives me this look
- 55:40and I realize because it's a black sheet
- 55:44there and I realized what was happening.
- 55:46And then
- 55:47>> the last the last moment you saw her
- 55:49before
- 55:51you hear before you turn your body
- 55:54>> before I heard the snap.
- 55:56>> Right. Before that it would be be it
- 55:58would be at the point right be right.
- 56:00You said you turn your body when you're
- 56:01pulling her off. Right. You turn away
- 56:02from her.
- 56:03>> I'm turn pulling her towards the bed.
- 56:05>> The last that last point that you saw
- 56:07her
- 56:08>> right. She was
- 56:09>> where was the shaft of the blade
- 56:13>> comparison body when I was looking at
- 56:16her pulling her foot it was not off the
- 56:19bed it was still tied
- 56:20>> okay that's what I'm saying
- 56:21>> right
- 56:22>> how where was it in comparison to her
- 56:25body
- 56:26>> it would have to have been like I said
- 56:27at least by her armpit or arm area which
- 56:32is what I'm seeing her like hold on to
- 56:36it but it's such a mess I can't say
- 56:39she's really holding on to it with her
- 56:41armpit if she's really
- 56:42>> Well, that's what I say though. But it's
- 56:44so her body her body is still on the
- 56:46bed, right?
- 56:46>> Her
- 56:47>> So her her upper body is still somewhat
- 56:49on the bed at least
- 56:50>> from her middle of her chest up because
- 56:53you're saying that
- 56:54>> Yeah. So she's still here.
- 56:55>> You're saying the way you're showing me
- 56:57right now is the shaft is under her
- 57:00armpit
- 57:00>> basically. Basically right about here.
- 57:02Yeah. So, I'm not saying
- 57:04>> her arm is wrapped around it like this
- 57:05is what you're saying and her other hand
- 57:07is on it
- 57:08>> or something along those lines. Her
- 57:11other arm is definitely coming towards
- 57:12it. So, her left arm is here.
- 57:14>> So, her upper body is still on on the
- 57:16bed.
- 57:16>> She's still on the bed.
- 57:17>> So, this blade is sticking up right
- 57:19here. Right.
- 57:20>> So, it should be about to her head. I
- 57:23would say it's about if it's it's about
- 57:26would be about up to here. Again, I
- 57:28>> It's higher than that.
- 57:30>> So, it would be up to here.
- 57:32um holding on to it.
- 57:35It could easily just I mean from the
- 57:39crack it could go in. If she's holding
- 57:42on to it, it goes in or it cracks
- 57:47and she's already on the floor and she
- 57:49puts it in.
- 57:51Again, I don't know because if she has
- 57:54the state of mind, which she does have,
- 57:56she would do it, which is what I was
- 57:59afraid of. And that's why I wanted her
- 58:00out of my room because I didn't want any
- 58:03I did not expect that. But I didn't want
- 58:05anything crazy to happen, which she's
- 58:07done before in front of people.
- 58:09>> And so I didn't want her to hurt
- 58:10herself, especially in my room. I didn't
- 58:13want her to make a scene because I had a
- 58:16friend that we had a friend there,
- 58:17Morgan. I didn't want her screaming or
- 58:19making her afraid. I just wanted her to
- 58:20go to sleep.
- 58:22>> How long How long has Sylvia known
- 58:25Morgan?
- 58:27>> I that I don't know. I met uh
- 58:30>> when was the first time you met Morgan?
- 58:32>> Um only when she came to the house.
- 58:34>> When was that?
- 58:36>> Couple of days ago. Maybe almost a week
- 58:39ago.
- 58:40>> Almost a week ago.
- 58:41>> Almost. Maybe a couple of days. Three
- 58:42days about three. Maybe 3 to 5 days
- 58:44depend business week. Maybe a full week.
- 58:46I'm not sure.
- 58:47>> Okay. And
- 58:50you've never received any money from
- 58:52her?
- 58:52>> I never received any money from her. No.
- 58:55>> No.
- 58:56I don't know. They had an arrangement
- 58:58because she had her own little room and
- 59:00they she had asked me if she prefer
- 59:02>> You never heard of uh
- 59:06>> couch surfing.
- 59:07>> That's what they do. So, I don't know if
- 59:09any money passes through it. I don't do
- 59:11it myself. I've never done it. But I was
- 59:13open to her ideas. So, I wanted her to
- 59:16be happy. I thought this made her happy.
- 59:39So remember I told you that the shaft
- 59:42from the point of break to where the
- 59:44blade is is 72 in.
- 59:47>> Show me that on about this big.
- 59:50>> How many feet how many how many inches
- 59:52in a foot?
- 59:53>> Well, it's 12 inches in a foot.
- 59:56>> So what?
- 59:57>> 12 24 36.
- 59:59>> Give me a visual.
- 1:00:00>> 60. Okay.
- 1:00:02>> 72.
- 1:00:03>> Okay.
- 1:00:04>> 6 ft.
- 1:00:05>> Okay.
- 1:00:05>> My height.
- 1:00:06>> Okay.
- 1:00:08>> Up in the air.
- 1:00:10>> Okay.
- 1:00:10>> Then the blade.
- 1:00:11>> Okay.
- 1:00:11>> Which is another foot. Then the
- 1:00:16the uh sheath has to come off,
- 1:00:19>> right? It has to unless like I said, if
- 1:00:22it grow
- 1:00:22>> this piece is sticking up here,
- 1:00:24>> right,
- 1:00:25>> in the air.
- 1:00:26>> How does it get into it? How does it
- 1:00:28come around
- 1:00:30>> at that height? So from where she is and
- 1:00:34then
- 1:00:35>> if you think about it, if she's falling
- 1:00:37from it and she's holding on to it,
- 1:00:40anything could happen. If she's holding
- 1:00:41on to it from here, this big piece is
- 1:00:44sitting here and it folds in any way or
- 1:00:47she falls in a in a a perfect position
- 1:00:50for it to actually go in or she actually
- 1:00:53just said, "You know what? Hang on it."
- 1:00:55And she did that. I don't know. I don't
- 1:00:58know. I don't know.
- 1:01:00>> You're talking about within a couple
- 1:01:02seconds.
- 1:01:05>> Yeah.
- 1:01:06>> Am I wrong on that?
- 1:01:07>> Could be more than a couple seconds.
- 1:01:09>> Tell me cuz you're saying you turn,
- 1:01:11>> right?
- 1:01:11>> Started pulling some more and then you
- 1:01:13hear the crack. You turn around.
- 1:01:15>> I turn around.
- 1:01:16>> And it's in her already,
- 1:01:17>> right?
- 1:01:17>> How long does that take?
- 1:01:19>> I don't know that that you're asking me
- 1:01:21to guess.
- 1:01:21>> Yeah,
- 1:01:22>> I am asking you to guess.
- 1:01:23>> Okay. I'm asking you to guess based off
- 1:01:25of your experience
- 1:01:27>> with this. I've never had experience
- 1:01:29with this.
- 1:01:29>> This was an experience, was it?
- 1:01:30>> It was an experience, but that's an
- 1:01:32inexperience. People's time perception
- 1:01:34was way off.
- 1:01:36>> So, what I might have been seconds,
- 1:01:39could have been longer. What was longer?
- 1:01:40>> Are you telling me that it was more than
- 1:01:42>> I I really don't know. All I know is
- 1:01:45what it felt like. What it felt like was
- 1:01:47it was very quick. And my perception
- 1:01:51was, hey, as I when I'm pulling her,
- 1:01:53she's holding on to it. But when I turn
- 1:01:55and pull, I hear the snap, I'm pulling,
- 1:01:59it's already happened. By the time I
- 1:02:02turn around, it's already happened. I I
- 1:02:05I can't explain how it exactly went in.
- 1:02:08I can't explain if she did it on
- 1:02:10purpose, which is what she wanted to do.
- 1:02:13I can't explain how it completely goes
- 1:02:16from this. Is it on your phone where she
- 1:02:18says she wants to kill herself?
- 1:02:20>> Yes, it's on my phone.
- 1:02:21>> And how long ago was that?
- 1:02:23>> It's multiple times actually. I don't
- 1:02:25know. Last one was uh I don't know, a
- 1:02:28couple days ago.
- 1:02:30>> That's on your phone.
- 1:02:31>> That should be on my phone.
- 1:02:33>> Okay.
- 1:02:33>> Right.
- 1:02:36It should be that she threatens me with
- 1:02:39this situation
- 1:02:41uh to happen, which is why I was trying
- 1:02:44to look for a way out of it. so that
- 1:02:46this would not happen. Um
- 1:02:51should [ __ ] should I stay sleep?
- 1:03:19I know you've been uh
- 1:03:24you haven't eaten anything yet.
- 1:03:26>> No, it's really I can't get that.
- 1:03:28>> No.
- 1:03:28>> No.
- 1:03:28>> You got double bagels.
- 1:03:30>> Just water and cheese.
- 1:03:31>> Appreciate that though.
- 1:03:33>> You want You want me to fill that up
- 1:03:34with some more water?
- 1:03:35>> Yeah.
- 1:03:35>> All right. I'll be right back. Thanks.
- 1:03:42Guys,
- 1:03:49come. I just get on. He'll get Yeah,
- 1:04:08I know.
- 1:04:10>> So, there's one missing.
- 1:04:13went in empty and that one broke.
- 1:04:15>> This is the one that broke. So are you
- 1:04:17showing me?
- 1:04:18>> Yeah. I'm just showing you what this is
- 1:04:21after. So she telling you this is from
- 1:04:23here to here is two feet. So from here
- 1:04:25to here is sticking out.
- 1:04:27>> Mhm.
- 1:04:27>> So as she's falling off, anything could
- 1:04:30have happened. She could have I don't
- 1:04:32know, maybe tipped over and went in. U
- 1:04:36maybe she thrusted herself in. Here's
- 1:04:39the
- 1:04:41the door for the bathroom. Here's where
- 1:04:44>> Here's where your dog is.
- 1:04:47>> This is the No, that's the sheet that
- 1:04:48that was taken off by rescue. Like you
- 1:04:50said,
- 1:04:53>> and this is exactly where this area was.
- 1:04:55And
- 1:04:55>> that's all her blood.
- 1:04:58>> That's all her blood,
- 1:04:59>> right?
- 1:05:01>> I tried to get the pack to stop the
- 1:05:04bleeding.
- 1:05:07Do you have one of those? That's yours?
- 1:05:09>> Yeah. Yeah, I do. Cuz I I I have in my
- 1:05:13bathroom I have a med kit. So I try to
- 1:05:16stop.
- 1:05:17>> So you have a blue med kit like a Is it
- 1:05:20about this big?
- 1:05:20>> No, it's just a med kit that
- 1:05:22>> Cuz that's that's something that we use.
- 1:05:24That's
- 1:05:25>> Yeah. to stop bleeding. Yes. Absolutely.
- 1:05:28>> So that was you.
- 1:05:30>> Yes.
- 1:05:45Do you think I'm a pretty reasonable
- 1:05:47person?
- 1:05:47>> I'm sorry.
- 1:05:48>> I think I'm a pretty reasonable person.
- 1:05:50Like I, you know, I'm not one of these
- 1:05:51guys that fly off the handle and try to
- 1:05:54think everything through.
- 1:05:56>> Okay. I would say so.
- 1:05:58>> I'm having a very difficult time
- 1:06:00believing what you're saying. I
- 1:06:03understand.
- 1:06:05That's what you're supposed to do.
- 1:06:06>> Well,
- 1:06:08>> no. Like I just said, I'm a reasonable
- 1:06:09person. Okay.
- 1:06:12>> I Well, no. I mean,
- 1:06:14>> so you think what what are you
- 1:06:15suggesting?
- 1:06:16>> What you're saying here is about four 4
- 1:06:19feet plus of the other foot.
- 1:06:21>> So, you think I broke it, turned around
- 1:06:23and did all that to it?
- 1:06:25>> I don't know.
- 1:06:26>> That's horrible, man.
- 1:06:27>> That is horrible.
- 1:06:27>> That is horrible. That's absolutely
- 1:06:29horrible. Especially with someone like
- 1:06:31this
- 1:06:32>> that you've never even asked. How's she
- 1:06:34doing?
- 1:06:35>> I'm so scared to know, man. I I'm so
- 1:06:38scared to know.
- 1:06:39>> We've been here.
- 1:06:40>> I'm so scared to know.
- 1:06:42>> It's been over.
- 1:06:43>> Is she all right?
- 1:06:44>> It's a little late to ask me now.
- 1:06:46>> No, I still kicked me. She just cracked
- 1:06:48me. So, is she all right?
- 1:06:50>> No, she's not.
- 1:06:53She's passed over.
- 1:06:59So
- 1:07:01you guys called rescue at 1:56.
- 1:07:05Okay.
- 1:07:07They took her to the hospital and you
- 1:07:09know after 2
- 1:07:13you were with you were with officers.
- 1:07:16Let's let's say from 2:30, right? And
- 1:07:18it's already
- 1:07:20after 12 now, right?
- 1:07:23>> I can't believe this. So, we're going
- 1:07:27on 10 hours
- 1:07:31or about 10 hours kind of maybe say
- 1:07:35what? Let's say uh nine and a half.
- 1:07:40You have never asked how she's doing
- 1:07:43>> cuz I've been praying my ass off, man.
- 1:07:46I'm scared to even know. But that has
- 1:07:48nothing to do with anything because
- 1:07:50she's already been threatening with
- 1:07:51being trying to kill herself. It's
- 1:07:53trying to deal with that. I've been a
- 1:07:56long-term friend.
- 1:07:57>> You're saying you have this on your
- 1:07:58phone, right?
- 1:07:59>> Yeah, I have this on my phone.
- 1:08:02>> Are you willing to give us the password
- 1:08:03to your phone so that we can do this?
- 1:08:05>> I don't have a lawyer, but if I do
- 1:08:08that, my lawyer. Yeah, I will absolutely
- 1:08:11show it to you, man.
- 1:08:12>> Well, we'll do a search for it on your
- 1:08:13phone.
- 1:08:14>> Oh, no. You don't need it. Well, the
- 1:08:15password will make it past her.
- 1:08:19Not a lawyer cuz this now you're trying
- 1:08:22to say I murdered her.
- 1:08:23>> I'm not saying you murdered her.
- 1:08:24>> Thank God.
- 1:08:25>> Okay.
- 1:08:26>> Thank God because she was acting this
- 1:08:28way and this is by accident.
- 1:08:30>> Accidents do happen. And I'm not saying
- 1:08:32that they don't. Okay. But the way that
- 1:08:35you're saying how things happen is is a
- 1:08:37little hard to digest.
- 1:08:39>> I was there and it's hard for me to
- 1:08:41digest what happened. I don't know how
- 1:08:43it got in her. I don't know how it
- 1:08:45broke. All I could either suspect that
- 1:08:47it
- 1:08:48>> was actually a mistake or she actually
- 1:08:50put it in her
- 1:08:52>> which she's capable of.
- 1:08:54>> So other those are the only theories I
- 1:08:57have. But all I know is what I do know
- 1:08:59is I wanted her out of the room because
- 1:09:02she was harassing me for months and all
- 1:09:05I've been doing and I even had to put
- 1:09:07the door jam to stop her and she's been
- 1:09:11bickering bickering coming in and I was
- 1:09:13sleeping. I wasn't even bothering her.
- 1:09:17So what happens when she's drunk?
- 1:09:19>> What were you bickering at?
- 1:09:21>> What?
- 1:09:21>> What was she bickering about?
- 1:09:23>> She gets angry. She's an angry person.
- 1:09:25So she gets very angry. She's going
- 1:09:28through something with her family.
- 1:09:32She's going through something with her
- 1:09:33family and it's really bothering her and
- 1:09:35in her psyche. Her dad had killed
- 1:09:37himself. She was very close to this type
- 1:09:39of thing. um bickering about not being
- 1:09:43heard or felt I mean
- 1:09:47just talking you know trying to connect
- 1:09:50and she turned violent a lot and it
- 1:09:53would make me back off you know and that
- 1:09:56backing off made more distance and so we
- 1:09:59should bicker about that and so then she
- 1:10:01would throw inuendos that she's going to
- 1:10:05kill herself and then
- 1:10:07>> you know blame me and And that's backs
- 1:10:11me off, too. So,
- 1:10:14yeah,
- 1:10:16it's horrible.
- 1:10:24So, weird.
- 1:10:52I have to make sure I can pull off the
- 1:10:54bed.
- 1:11:00>> I got rights, too.
- 1:11:02>> Don't I have rights, too, man? I just
- 1:11:04wanted her to leave the room. She was
- 1:11:06holding me, harassing me.
- 1:11:26Wasn't
- 1:11:38worth this. It wasn't worth this.
- 1:11:40>> What do you mean?
- 1:11:45Was it worth this?
- 1:11:48>> Well, let me ask you what what do you
- 1:11:50mean by that?
- 1:11:50>> I'm sorry. I can't hit you up.
- 1:11:54>> What were you When you say
- 1:11:56>> it wasn't worth her fighting. It wasn't
- 1:11:58worth her fighting. It wasn't worth I
- 1:12:00wasn't mad. It was I was just going to
- 1:12:02sleep cuz I knew she was going to
- 1:12:04bathtub.
- 1:12:08Just wanted to go to sleep.
- 1:12:36That's
- 1:12:40I had asked you before.
- 1:12:44>> I mean, is there anywhere where we can
- 1:12:45get phone numbers for her family?
- 1:12:49All I know is WhatsApp.
- 1:12:52>> That's on your phone.
- 1:12:55>> Her mom was ignoring her.
- 1:12:59>> She was trying to do it with her mom.
- 1:13:15Can can can you kind of look at it from
- 1:13:17our standpoint for a second?
- 1:13:20>> I'm sorry. What?
- 1:13:21>> I'm asking you to kind of
- 1:13:24>> asking you to do something difficult
- 1:13:25right now.
- 1:13:26>> Sorry.
- 1:13:27>> I'm asking you to do something a little
- 1:13:28difficult right now. Think about
- 1:13:31>> think about this from somebody outside
- 1:13:34of your point of view. Okay.
- 1:13:39Uh, again, I'm reasonable. Accidents
- 1:13:43happen.
- 1:13:44Things that are not meant to happen, but
- 1:13:48end up happening.
- 1:13:52And that's what this sounds like to us,
- 1:13:56right?
- 1:13:58It could be from multiple ways, but
- 1:14:03you know, we're we're missing we feel
- 1:14:06like we're missing some obviously
- 1:14:09important parts here because you're
- 1:14:11saying that you turned, right?
- 1:14:14>> I turned my back trying to get
- 1:14:16>> and then within that short period of
- 1:14:19time,
- 1:14:20>> broke, I heard a snap.
- 1:14:22>> Right.
- 1:14:22>> I don't know. And somehow this long
- 1:14:25object
- 1:14:25>> was in her
- 1:14:26>> turned around
- 1:14:28>> and entered her.
- 1:14:29>> Well, in the momentum I mean it has to
- 1:14:33go this way because that's and then had
- 1:14:36a very
- 1:14:38like almost 180° angle, 180° uh change
- 1:14:43of direction, right?
- 1:14:44>> Put it in her. Maybe she put it in her.
- 1:14:47Maybe she tipped over and it came
- 1:14:50direction.
- 1:15:02I'm such a giant emotion.
- 1:15:05>> The blade is
- 1:15:08a good 4T up in the air away from her.
- 1:15:11>> I know you could say that over and over,
- 1:15:13but that's what I'm saying. is what
- 1:15:15you're saying cuz remember if your hands
- 1:15:17are here,
- 1:15:18>> right?
- 1:15:19>> They would had to come all the way up
- 1:15:21here based on how how you're doing
- 1:15:22things.
- 1:15:23>> I mean, if you flip it around, you can
- 1:15:25see if she's falling down, it could very
- 1:15:29well go in the moment.
- 1:15:30>> Not at that not at that not holding it
- 1:15:32low like that.
- 1:15:33>> If she But if she's holding on to it,
- 1:15:35she could totally go in. Or maybe she
- 1:15:37fell this to the side and it went in
- 1:15:39that way. Maybe she did literally thrust
- 1:15:42it in cuz she'd been trying to kill
- 1:15:43herself.
- 1:15:44>> You would have to grab near the top
- 1:15:46>> because remember this the blade is up
- 1:15:48here.
- 1:15:48>> But if you grab down here, you have to
- 1:15:51reach all the way out here to do that.
- 1:15:55>> No. Right. That doesn't sound logical.
- 1:15:57Look,
- 1:15:58>> all I know is I wasn't looking and I
- 1:16:00know she could have done it to herself.
- 1:16:02She could have fell sideways. It could
- 1:16:04have fell from a from a cracked fell
- 1:16:06from a distance in as she's falling off.
- 1:16:09>> It could have been your actions of when
- 1:16:12you were pulling her off the bed that
- 1:16:13caused the break when I pulled her body.
- 1:16:16>> Is that fair? Say
- 1:16:17>> if I pulled her off the bed and it
- 1:16:19cracked. That's exactly what happened.
- 1:16:22>> I pulled it off the bed and it cracked.
- 1:16:25>> And it entered her body.
- 1:16:26>> And it entered her body and I didn't see
- 1:16:28how it entered or in what way.
- 1:16:32All I know is when I saw it, I tried to
- 1:16:36help. I tried to resuscitate her. I
- 1:16:38tried to stop it bleeding. All I wanted
- 1:16:41her was to get out my
- 1:16:45She was not listening.
- 1:16:50This is not worth it, man.
- 1:16:53I'm I'm going to ask you to try to
- 1:16:54remember something after afterwards.
- 1:16:57>> You know what? After the police got
- 1:16:59there. After the paramedics got there,
- 1:17:04the the sheath.
- 1:17:08>> Do you remember where it was? No.
- 1:17:12>> It's a it's I don't expect you to
- 1:17:14remember. I really wasn't expecting you
- 1:17:15to remember it.
- 1:17:16>> Okay. But it's just a question that I
- 1:17:18have for myself.
- 1:17:19>> Where was it?
- 1:17:20>> Like was it moved from off? It was off
- 1:17:24of the thing.
- 1:17:24>> Of course it was off. We all know that
- 1:17:26it was off. It's impossible for this to
- 1:17:28be for us to be sitting here if it
- 1:17:30wasn't. We know that
- 1:17:31>> looking at it. I wasn't looking at it.
- 1:17:33All I was focusing on her.
- 1:17:34>> Of course.
- 1:17:35>> Of course.
- 1:17:39>> All I was focusing was on her. Freaking
- 1:17:41out.
- 1:17:55She actually
- 1:18:04actually
- 1:18:09special.
- 1:18:18Like I said, all I know is she could
- 1:18:21have dusted under her. She could have
- 1:18:23fell in a different direction that I
- 1:18:25wasn't looking.
- 1:18:26>> Mhm.
- 1:18:27>> That had a maybe already hit the floor
- 1:18:30and then she hit the floor went in. I
- 1:18:32have no problem. I really
- 1:18:35>> I'm just saying that's not that's not a
- 1:18:37good theory. Okay.
- 1:18:38>> Yeah. Well, you know what? That's all
- 1:18:40you got because honestly speaking, I
- 1:18:42wasn't looking. I can't give you more.
- 1:18:44All right. I know I didn't do anything.
- 1:18:46All I know is I wanted her out of the
- 1:18:47room. All I know is that I had no reason
- 1:18:49to. All I know is that she's threatening
- 1:18:51me with this very scenario. All I know
- 1:18:53is that foring months, even when she
- 1:18:56gets drunk, she gets crazy.
- 1:18:59>> And that's why I was trying to avoid
- 1:19:01her.
- 1:19:02And she just kept coming back, coming
- 1:19:04back, coming back.
- 1:19:07I just wanted her to leave.
- 1:19:09>> That's what I know.
- 1:19:18So this is
- 1:19:23It was fine.
- 1:19:25Everything was fine.
- 1:19:35You got anything else that you want to
- 1:19:36say?
- 1:19:37>> I'm sorry.
- 1:19:38>> Do you have anything else that you want
- 1:19:39to say?
- 1:19:41>> I said my lawyer.
- 1:19:45>> Well, I mean, we don't have to be done
- 1:19:46if you don't want to be.
- 1:19:48You think I did something I didn't do or
- 1:19:50else there's
- 1:19:51>> No, I'm verifying if you did anything or
- 1:19:53not. What
- 1:19:54>> if something happened to you?
- 1:19:57>> I understand your point, which is why
- 1:19:58I'm not angry at it. All right. I
- 1:20:00understand. But I don't have the
- 1:20:02information you're looking for because I
- 1:20:04had my back to her and was pulling her
- 1:20:07to go over there. I didn't realize until
- 1:20:10you saw where her blood was.
- 1:20:12>> Mhm.
- 1:20:13>> Had anything happened at all?
- 1:20:15>> I didn't realize anything had happened
- 1:20:17at all. back to her physically.
- 1:20:19>> Mhm.
- 1:20:20>> Until until I turned around
- 1:20:31>> based off of what I know. Okay.
- 1:20:37This blade went through her sternum.
- 1:20:40>> I'm sorry.
- 1:20:40>> Went through her sternum. This blade
- 1:20:42went through the sternum. Do you know
- 1:20:44how much force must have been used for
- 1:20:47that to happen?
- 1:20:49>> Falling,
- 1:20:50thrusting. It's the same thing.
- 1:20:53>> Falling, fell off the bed, thrusters
- 1:20:55herself, thrusted herself. There's no
- 1:20:58reason for me to do anything. I'm trying
- 1:20:59to get out of the room. There's no
- 1:21:00reason.
- 1:21:01>> Mhm.
- 1:21:08>> Okay. Give me a call.
- 1:21:11Do you want to look at this anymore?
- 1:21:14I have to look at it.
- 1:21:27All right, let's get walking out of
- 1:21:30here. Okay.
- 1:21:46Following the interrogation, Adam
- 1:21:48Cresbow was formally charged in Broward
- 1:21:50County with seconddegree murder in the
- 1:21:51killing of Sylvia Galva. He maintained
- 1:21:54that her death was the result of an
- 1:21:55accident, but prosecutors moved forward
- 1:21:58with a case built on physical evidence,
- 1:22:00reconstruction, and his own statements
- 1:22:02to investigators.
- 1:22:04The case took years to reach trial. In
- 1:22:07July 2025, jurors were shown the spear,
- 1:22:11a reconstructed version of the bed, and
- 1:22:13Cresbow's recorded interrogation.
- 1:22:16Medical testimony established that the
- 1:22:18wound traveled through the breastplate
- 1:22:19toward the back and required significant
- 1:22:22force. Evidence the state used to argue
- 1:22:24the death was not accidental. On August
- 1:22:2711th, 2025, the jury found Cresbow
- 1:22:31guilty of seconddegree murder. After a
- 1:22:33short deliberation, he was taken into
- 1:22:35custody following the verdict. On
- 1:22:37October 31st, 2025, a judge sentenced
- 1:22:41Adam Crespbow to life in prison. He is
- 1:22:44currently in custody at Martin
- 1:22:45Correctional Institution in Indiantown,
- 1:22:47Florida. If you found this video
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