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He Says It Was an Accident… Detectives Don’t Buy It | Adam Crespo Interrogation — Transcript

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  1. 0:00at at some point where she's not
  2. 0:01leaving. She's not going. She's getting
  3. 0:03belligerent. And I I just couldn't take
  4. 0:06it at this point. So, I just said, "All
  5. 0:07right, well then I'm going to drag you
  6. 0:08out."
  7. 0:14>> On July 12th, 2019, a night out in South
  8. 0:17Florida ended inside a bedroom in
  9. 0:18Hollandale Beach. Adam Cresbow and
  10. 0:21Sylvia Galva had gone out earlier with a
  11. 0:23friend, then returned to the apartment
  12. 0:25sometime after 1:00 a.m. Not long after,
  13. 0:28an argument started behind a closed
  14. 0:29door. The friend later told police she
  15. 0:32could hear them going back and forth.
  16. 0:33Cresbow telling Galva to leave, voices
  17. 0:36rising, tension building in a space no
  18. 0:38one else could see. Then she heard a
  19. 0:40scream. When she went into the room,
  20. 0:43Galva was on her back with a severe
  21. 0:44chest wound. A decorative spear from the
  22. 0:47bed had pierced her chest, causing a
  23. 0:49fatal injury. Cresbow told investigators
  24. 0:52it was an accident, that he had tried to
  25. 0:54pull her off the bed by her ankles, that
  26. 0:56she grabbed the spear to hold on, and
  27. 0:58that it broke, driving the blade into
  28. 1:00her chest. From the start, investigators
  29. 1:03had to determine whether that
  30. 1:04explanation matched the physical
  31. 1:06evidence and what had just happened
  32. 1:07inside that room. This is the
  33. 1:09interrogation of Adam Cresbow.
  34. 1:22Yeah.
  35. 1:25Want to sit in here? Okay.
  36. 1:32We're going to record our our interview.
  37. 1:35Okay. Sorry. We're going to record this.
  38. 1:37Okay. Of course.
  39. 1:49This is a sworn reported statement being
  40. 1:51taken on July 12th, 2019 at 7:18 hours
  41. 1:56as a regards to case number
  42. 1:5828-1907-19392.
  43. 2:04This interview is being conducted by
  44. 2:05Detective Chris Grio, CCN 6140. This
  45. 2:09interview is being conducted at the
  46. 2:11Hollandell Beach Police Department, 400
  47. 2:13South Federal Highway, Hollandell Beach,
  48. 2:14Florida 330009.
  49. 2:17Also in the room is
  50. 2:19>> officer Val, CCN 628.
  51. 2:23>> Um, advising you that I'm a dy sworn
  52. 2:26police officer for the city of
  53. 2:27Hollanddale Beach, state of Florida. Do
  54. 2:29you understand?
  55. 2:30>> I'm sorry.
  56. 2:30>> I'm a dy sworn police officer for the
  57. 2:32city.
  58. 2:33>> I have hearing problems. Just let
  59. 2:34>> Okay. So, I'll speak louder.
  60. 2:35>> Yes, that's good.
  61. 2:36>> Okay.
  62. 2:38So, you understand what I'm police
  63. 2:39officer?
  64. 2:40>> Yes.
  65. 2:40>> Okay.
  66. 2:42>> Everything we talk about needs to be
  67. 2:43honest and truthful to the best of your
  68. 2:45recollection. Do you understand that?
  69. 2:46>> Yes.
  70. 2:47>> Okay. Uh, I'm going to swear you in.
  71. 2:50>> Please raise your right hand. Your right
  72. 2:52hand.
  73. 2:54>> You solemnly swear to tell the truth,
  74. 2:55the whole truth, and nothing but the
  75. 2:57truth. So, help you God.
  76. 2:58>> I do.
  77. 2:58>> Okay. You can lower your hand. Thank
  78. 2:59you. Uh, please state your full name.
  79. 3:02>> Adam Rashard Creswell.
  80. 3:04>> And spell your last name. C R E S as in
  81. 3:07Sam P as in Peter O.
  82. 3:09>> And your date of birth?
  83. 3:11>> 53176.
  84. 3:13>> And your address
  85. 3:20and a phone number you can be reached
  86. 3:21at.
  87. 3:27I said I'm sorry I missed most of that.
  88. 3:35Okay.
  89. 3:38Um,
  90. 3:41before I ask you any questions, a well,
  91. 3:44let me ask you. You understand English?
  92. 3:46>> Yes.
  93. 3:47>> Okay. You You write it, you speak it,
  94. 3:49everything I've been saying. You
  95. 3:50>> Okay.
  96. 3:52>> Um, where do you work?
  97. 3:54>> I am currently not working at the
  98. 3:56moment.
  99. 3:56>> Okay. I'm going to read this to you.
  100. 4:01>> Okay.
  101. 4:01>> Okay. Did they let you clean your hands?
  102. 4:03He said, "Yes, they clean my hands."
  103. 4:04Okay.
  104. 4:05Um, let me start here.
  105. 4:09>> These are what are called Miranda
  106. 4:10warnings. Okay.
  107. 4:11>> Okay.
  108. 4:12>> Before I ask you any questions, I want
  109. 4:14you to advise you of your rights under
  110. 4:15the law. Do you understand? I'm a police
  111. 4:17officer.
  112. 4:17>> Correct.
  113. 4:18>> Okay. Okay. I'm going to I'm going to
  114. 4:19write down your answers here. All right.
  115. 4:21>> Okay.
  116. 4:25>> You have the right to remain silent.
  117. 4:26That is, you need not talk to me or
  118. 4:28answer any questions if you don't want
  119. 4:29to.
  120. 4:30>> You understand that?
  121. 4:32>> Okay. And
  122. 4:35You have the right to talk to an
  123. 4:37attorney
  124. 4:39before talking to me
  125. 4:42and have an attorney or parent I don't
  126. 4:44know why that's in there here with you
  127. 4:46during questioning now or later. Do you
  128. 4:48understand?
  129. 4:55>> If you cannot afford to retain your own
  130. 4:56attorney and want an attorney, one will
  131. 4:58be appointed for you before we ask you
  132. 4:59any questions.
  133. 5:03If you decide to answer questions now
  134. 5:05without an attorney present, you will
  135. 5:08still have the right to stop answering
  136. 5:09my questions at any time until you talk
  137. 5:11to an attorney.
  138. 5:15>> Should you talk to me, anything you say
  139. 5:17can and will be used against you in a
  140. 5:19court of law and I'm going to add or for
  141. 5:21you if that if that ever comes to be or
  142. 5:24not.
  143. 5:28Knowing and understanding your rights,
  144. 5:30have I explained to them to you? Are you
  145. 5:32willing to answer my questions without
  146. 5:33an attorney?
  147. 5:34>> At the moment, yes. Okay.
  148. 5:39>> Have you previously requested any law
  149. 5:40enforcement officer to allow you to
  150. 5:42speak to an attorney?
  151. 5:43>> No, at this time.
  152. 5:45>> Okay.
  153. 5:47>> Again,
  154. 5:48you know, sorry that you're here in
  155. 5:50reference to all this, but we need to
  156. 5:52kind of find out what happened.
  157. 5:55>> All right. Okay. So, I'm going to
  158. 5:58let you start earlier in the day. Start
  159. 6:01from the time you woke up yesterday.
  160. 6:05>> Okay.
  161. 6:05>> Okay. And just kind of tell me how the
  162. 6:08day went up to and after we showed up.
  163. 6:11>> Okay.
  164. 6:12>> Okay.
  165. 6:13>> Um well, that day in the daytime, she
  166. 6:16went to a friend's house. Um so, they
  167. 6:19kind of went out while I stayed home.
  168. 6:22Um,
  169. 6:24you know, they I guess were drinking or
  170. 6:26whatever they were doing there. Uh, when
  171. 6:27I was home alone, um, I guess it was
  172. 6:30around maybe almost 11, maybe 11:00.
  173. 6:36Uh, she asked
  174. 6:37>> 11:00,
  175. 6:38>> like 11:00 p.m.
  176. 6:39>> Okay. So, about that time when I left
  177. 6:41the house,
  178. 6:42>> um, uh, I went to, she requested I pick
  179. 6:45her up from the house that she was at,
  180. 6:48which was a friend of hers. Well,
  181. 6:49actually, she was a friend of hers. Um,
  182. 6:52and I went to pick her up. We, uh, you
  183. 6:55know, I guess, um, Morgan was having a
  184. 6:58bad day. Uh, we went to go to a, um,
  185. 7:02hotel outside. Hotel Diplomat. It's like
  186. 7:05a little bar area outside. Um, so we
  187. 7:09went, well, we had some drinks and, um,
  188. 7:13and they went in the pool. Um,
  189. 7:17I guess they had already been drinking.
  190. 7:19Um, I had a one drink and then I said I
  191. 7:24would like to go home. So I I am I'm
  192. 7:27going home but uh the reason why I was
  193. 7:31uh pressing to go home was because I saw
  194. 7:34that u my girl was drunk. Um when she
  195. 7:39gets a little drunk she gets a little
  196. 7:41belligerent or it's a little angry. So,
  197. 7:42I kind of just wanted to go home and um
  198. 7:45so we went home and Magic went quickly
  199. 7:48to bed. Um during these times, I mean,
  200. 7:52we've been having hard times during the
  201. 7:54week, if not the month. Uh she's been
  202. 7:57very uh erratic and angry, especially
  203. 8:00when she drinking. And I guess I I was
  204. 8:04just so used to this happening, I just
  205. 8:05wanted to go to sleep and go to bed.
  206. 8:07um you know she's been very um you know
  207. 8:10claiming to be claiming to you know you
  208. 8:14know want to leave and I'm okay well
  209. 8:17then let me go to sleep and you go do
  210. 8:19your thing. Um, but she just keeps
  211. 8:22coming back and baring me and screaming
  212. 8:24at me and yelling at me and you know I
  213. 8:27was just listen I I want you out just
  214. 8:30you can go outside cuz you can leave if
  215. 8:31you go to the couch or whatever but she
  216. 8:34was just kept coming back in kept coming
  217. 8:37back in and I tried to the door you was
  218. 8:40a door that was broken uh the front door
  219. 8:43to the thing I usually have a weight to
  220. 8:44put in front was broken because she was
  221. 8:47attempting to come back and I broken it
  222. 8:50in to prevent it and that's why it was
  223. 8:52broken. And so I had been putting
  224. 8:55weights in front of the door to keep it
  225. 8:57from coming back inside and to see that
  226. 8:59there should be ways by the door. Um so
  227. 9:01she kept barging back in and I'm like
  228. 9:03listen I I don't want to have this
  229. 9:06conversation when you're drunk. And
  230. 9:07>> this is tonight.
  231. 9:08>> That was tonight. Yeah. So I mean other
  232. 9:10nights this has been happening is her,
  233. 9:12you know, being drunk and bullying.
  234. 9:13>> I I just was make sure I'm following the
  235. 9:15story properly.
  236. 9:16>> Yeah. So, I mean, because I'm I'm
  237. 9:17telling you what led up to this because
  238. 9:20at this tonight, I was just going to
  239. 9:23bed, going to sleep, trying to avoid the
  240. 9:25problem, trying to avoid um when she
  241. 9:27gets like that because, you know, she's
  242. 9:29angry. You know, she has a lot of things
  243. 9:30going on in her life that has been
  244. 9:32pissing her off. And I guess sometimes,
  245. 9:34you know, I become the punching bag
  246. 9:35part. And um you know but this you know
  247. 9:38I just wanted to sleep and I was in the
  248. 9:40bed and she just kept coming in and
  249. 9:42coming in and barging and barging and at
  250. 9:45some point I she just threw herself in
  251. 9:48the bed and I had to tell her please get
  252. 9:50out. I'd rather you just sleep on the
  253. 9:52couch and um you know she was just like
  254. 9:55no I'm not going to leave. And I'm like
  255. 9:57well I I think you should leave because
  256. 9:59you know I don't want you here and and
  257. 10:01you're going to get angry and I'm really
  258. 10:03sick and tired of this type of drunk
  259. 10:05behavior. So I said again, requesting
  260. 10:07her to leave. She didn't she didn't want
  261. 10:09to leave again. So then at this point, I
  262. 10:12dragged her by her feet off the bed
  263. 10:14like, "If you're not going to leave, I'm
  264. 10:16going to drag you by the feet and get
  265. 10:17off." Actually, was the blanket I'm
  266. 10:19pulling on. And as I'm pulling her by
  267. 10:22her legs, then she I have these those
  268. 10:24two uh spears. God, I don't know why I
  269. 10:27have them, but I have these two spears.
  270. 10:29It's uh I'm a martial artist, so I I
  271. 10:31guess I I put them in the decorator that
  272. 10:34has a didn't think it would be bad. They
  273. 10:36have uh covers on them. Um never thought
  274. 10:39it would be bad. And I guess when I'm
  275. 10:42pulling her off the bed to the door, she
  276. 10:45had grabbed it. It had snapped. And I
  277. 10:49guess because I didn't realize anything
  278. 10:50had happened until I got to the door.
  279. 10:53When I turned around, I saw it in her.
  280. 10:56And then that's when everything
  281. 10:57happened. And then I saw it in her and I
  282. 11:00freaked out and I grabbed told Morgan to
  283. 11:03call 911 and Morgan is a EMT or an XM
  284. 11:08and she assisted me. We we called 911.
  285. 11:10911 was on the phone while we tried to
  286. 11:13resuscitate her or you know try to
  287. 11:15prevent anything worse from happening
  288. 11:17and at that point well that's all I
  289. 11:20remember.
  290. 11:21was blood everywhere and I was freaking
  291. 11:22out and
  292. 11:23>> that's when everybody finally came and
  293. 11:27>> it was on I I believe we were still on
  294. 11:29the phone with the uh 911 call while we
  295. 11:32were trying to assess it and that's as
  296. 11:35much as I remember.
  297. 11:36>> Okay. Well, I'm going to I'm going to
  298. 11:39ask you some questions and maybe to help
  299. 11:41so I can help clarify everything as the
  300. 11:43day went. Okay. So, do you remember what
  301. 11:46time they
  302. 11:47>> remember what time it was? left to go to
  303. 11:50the friend's house or your
  304. 11:51>> It was daytime. It was pretty early. It
  305. 11:53could have been uh afternoon.
  306. 11:55>> Mhm.
  307. 11:55>> Yeah.
  308. 11:56>> Like, do you have any idea what time?
  309. 11:58>> Couldn't say exactly.
  310. 12:00>> Do you remember whose friend the friend?
  311. 12:02>> Do I know who the friend was? Yes, it
  312. 12:03was Carrie.
  313. 12:04>> Carrie? Do you know Carrie's last name?
  314. 12:06>> Um, shoot. No, I don't.
  315. 12:08>> Okay.
  316. 12:10>> All right. [ __ ] No, I don't.
  317. 12:12>> Uh, you have a cell phone?
  318. 12:13>> I do.
  319. 12:14>> All right. The number you gave me is
  320. 12:15your cell phone.
  321. 12:16>> That's correct.
  322. 12:17>> Okay. And it should be at the location
  323. 12:19that we we left everything off
  324. 12:21>> um in the cell phone.
  325. 12:24Would you have the address that you went
  326. 12:27to Carrie?
  327. 12:27>> Yes. She had text me where to go.
  328. 12:30>> Okay.
  329. 12:30>> Yeah.
  330. 12:32>> Um
  331. 12:32>> Okay. So, so you drove over to Carrie's?
  332. 12:36>> That's right.
  333. 12:36>> They texted you around 11:00ish.
  334. 12:39>> Yeah. About 11:00ish. Um to go pick her
  335. 12:41up cuz they were I don't know heated or
  336. 12:44something was wrong at this point. Um,
  337. 12:47>> they said something was wrong.
  338. 12:48>> Well, they were heated. That's all I
  339. 12:50found. That's why I like, "Why do you
  340. 12:51want me to pick you up?" Because they
  341. 12:53took an Uber over there and I was like,
  342. 12:54"Why don't you just take an Uber back?"
  343. 12:56Um, no, but she was I don't know. She
  344. 12:58was saying that I wanted you to pick me
  345. 13:00up. So, you know, I didn't want to upset
  346. 13:02her anymore. And like I said, she's been
  347. 13:05having hard times, you know.
  348. 13:06>> And this is on the phone.
  349. 13:07>> Yeah.
  350. 13:07>> You haven't You're talking to her right
  351. 13:09now?
  352. 13:09>> On the phone, right? Exactly. She was
  353. 13:11already over there. They had taken the
  354. 13:12Uber over there. Um, so when I talked to
  355. 13:15her on the phone, she was, you know,
  356. 13:17requesting that I pick her up. She said,
  357. 13:19"I'll text you the address, please. I
  358. 13:20want you to come pick me up. It' be, you
  359. 13:22know, nice or better." Like, I don't
  360. 13:24know what they were arguing about, but
  361. 13:26it was she wanted me to pick her up.
  362. 13:28>> But there was an argument between
  363. 13:30>> Oh, Carrie and her maybe or something
  364. 13:32like that. Okay. All I know is
  365. 13:34>> she didn't get into it with you.
  366. 13:35>> No, I mean, and when I went to pick him
  367. 13:37up, everybody was together, so it didn't
  368. 13:38look like it was a big argument. Maybe,
  369. 13:40you know, just girls being girls. Um,
  370. 13:42but something had happened that she
  371. 13:45wanted me to go pick her up instead of
  372. 13:47just taking over.
  373. 13:48>> And yeah, then Morgan was having a a
  374. 13:51rough day. I don't really know much
  375. 13:52about it. Um, but I know she needed, you
  376. 13:55know, a drink and relax and stress. And
  377. 13:57this place that we took was uh like
  378. 14:00across, excuse me, across the way from
  379. 14:03my house. So, I thought this was
  380. 14:04>> And the name of that hotel is
  381. 14:06>> is the diplomat.
  382. 14:07>> Okay. The one on A1A.
  383. 14:09>> Yes, that's the one. It's a nice place.
  384. 14:11It was nice and cozy. I thought, you
  385. 14:13know, let the girls have some time, jump
  386. 14:15in the pool and, you know, have some
  387. 14:17drinks and then go home.
  388. 14:19>> But, you know, that that's pretty much
  389. 14:21what we did.
  390. 14:22>> But at the this time, I started
  391. 14:24realizing my girlfriend is very drunk.
  392. 14:27And already I have triggers because I
  393. 14:29know when she gets drunk, she starts to
  394. 14:31be belligerent and angry. And I was
  395. 14:34like, listen, let's just go home. And
  396. 14:35so, that's exactly what we did. Uh I
  397. 14:39believe it was around 1:00 that we had
  398. 14:41left. Um
  399. 14:45I'm not too sure. I do a receipt for the
  400. 14:49uh
  401. 14:49>> Mhm.
  402. 14:50>> So I think the receipt might be in the
  403. 14:52pocket. I don't know exactly
  404. 14:53>> in the back pocket that the clothes that
  405. 14:55we just took off.
  406. 14:56>> It it might have been there. Yeah. Or it
  407. 14:58could have been in the wallet
  408. 15:00or somewhere in the pocket.
  409. 15:02>> You used your credit card.
  410. 15:03>> We used the credit card. Yeah. And it
  411. 15:04should have the time where we left. So,
  412. 15:07just to make sure what time that was.
  413. 15:09And it was pretty easy. When I went in
  414. 15:11the house, I just went right to the bed
  415. 15:13because I already knew that she was
  416. 15:15going to start to act up and she was
  417. 15:17ready.
  418. 15:17>> So, you just you laid down in the
  419. 15:18clothes that you were out in?
  420. 15:19>> I already went to the room, just closed
  421. 15:20the door and
  422. 15:21>> Well, I'm saying you went into the bed
  423. 15:22with the clothes that you were out in.
  424. 15:24You didn't change?
  425. 15:25>> No, I didn't change at all. That's why I
  426. 15:26still had them on. I didn't change at
  427. 15:27all. I just went right into the bed and
  428. 15:29closed the door. And yeah, then she
  429. 15:32starts coming in and being belligerent.
  430. 15:34Look, I don't want to talk anymore.
  431. 15:36maybe when you're sober. Um, that was
  432. 15:38it. I mean, she kept coming back in, but
  433. 15:40again, it was just because it's been
  434. 15:42happening like for the whole month. It's
  435. 15:45just what she's drinking is just barging
  436. 15:47in there, getting angry, you know,
  437. 15:48threatening to kill herself and freaking
  438. 15:50me out and, you know, and it's not good
  439. 15:52for my guest. And I'm trying to keep the
  440. 15:54keys and, you know, at this point, I
  441. 15:56just put the the uh weight in front of
  442. 16:00the door and hope she doesn't keep
  443. 16:01barging in. It's not that it's a
  444. 16:02deterrent, but she kept barging in and
  445. 16:05she kept going in and she wouldn't
  446. 16:07leave. And at the last minute, she just
  447. 16:09jumps on the bed. And that's when I was
  448. 16:11like, "Lord, please leave. Please, I
  449. 16:13just want you to leave. I just want you
  450. 16:14to go to the go to the living room,
  451. 16:16sleep it off, whatever. Just let me stay
  452. 16:18here." And yeah, and she said, "No, I'm
  453. 16:21not going to leave." And you know, you
  454. 16:22know, you and belligerent. And I was
  455. 16:25like, "Look, I I can't take it anymore."
  456. 16:27So, I grabbed her her ankles and and I
  457. 16:30started pulling. And I guess that's
  458. 16:31exactly what happened when she I guess
  459. 16:33when she was going off the bed, she had
  460. 16:35grabbed this stick and it went down,
  461. 16:38cracked. And I didn't realize anything
  462. 16:40had happened until I was already like
  463. 16:44right where we were. I don't know if we
  464. 16:46were there, but it was right by the
  465. 16:48mirror.
  466. 16:49>> Okay.
  467. 16:50>> Right. Right in front of the bathroom.
  468. 16:52So right there is when I saw
  469. 16:55this was in her. And she didn't say
  470. 16:57anything. She didn't screaming or
  471. 16:59anything. I just saw it in her. And when
  472. 17:02I took it out, I saw the damage. I saw
  473. 17:05the blood spill.
  474. 17:06>> So, you took the knife out of her?
  475. 17:08>> I took cuz it was in
  476. 17:09>> the spear.
  477. 17:09>> The spear. The spear tip. It was in her.
  478. 17:11Yes. I I took it out and that's when it
  479. 17:16all spilling out and I freaked out and I
  480. 17:18told Morgan to call 911 and she did.
  481. 17:22That's what my recollection is.
  482. 17:25>> So, after you pulled it out is when you
  483. 17:27told Morgan to call 911.
  484. 17:28>> Yes. Well, when I realized the damage
  485. 17:32comes in and once it happened, that's
  486. 17:34when I try to hold down the blood. I see
  487. 17:38that there's blood on the floor. I freak
  488. 17:40out. I I open the door to go tell
  489. 17:43Morgan, "Please to call 911." She does.
  490. 17:46She comes into the room. I'm pressing.
  491. 17:48She starts the CPR. 911 is on the phone.
  492. 17:51She had left right there by the
  493. 17:54um I have a little fake fireplace. So,
  494. 17:57she left it right there. And they talked
  495. 17:59him talked us through it while we were
  496. 18:01going through it the whole time. So we
  497. 18:03were, you know, I was breathing and she
  498. 18:05was pumping and I was breathing and
  499. 18:08that's it. I never done it before, but
  500. 18:10>> Okay. So
  501. 18:13does uh she comes in the room, you ask
  502. 18:17her to leave, she doesn't do it. Is
  503. 18:20there anything else that goes on
  504. 18:22>> that I asked her to leave
  505. 18:23>> after that? Yeah.
  506. 18:24>> She comes back. Are you yelling at her?
  507. 18:27No, she's yelling at me. I wasn't
  508. 18:28yelling at her.
  509. 18:29>> Screaming.
  510. 18:30>> I was telling her to get out. That was
  511. 18:32about it. Like, I don't want this. You
  512. 18:33know, living is sober. Please leave.
  513. 18:36Please go out to And that's if I was
  514. 18:38yelling that. Yes. And I was yelling.
  515. 18:40>> Does she What does she actually say to
  516. 18:42you?
  517. 18:43>> Well, she was just saying, "No, I'm not
  518. 18:44going to leave." And you know, and
  519. 18:46you're going to have to throw me out of
  520. 18:47the house. I'm like, "I don't want to
  521. 18:49throw you out of the house. I just want
  522. 18:50you to leave the room." Um, and she was,
  523. 18:53"Oh, you're going to have to kill me."
  524. 18:54And I'm I don't want to kill you. I
  525. 18:57don't want to do that. I just want you
  526. 18:58out. I just want you to go out of the
  527. 18:59living room. And that's where I grabbed
  528. 19:01her. I was like, I had to do what I had
  529. 19:03to do to get her up. And I grabbed her
  530. 19:05by the ankle. And that's where that's
  531. 19:07where it happened. That was a stupid
  532. 19:09mistake.
  533. 19:11>> You're married to her?
  534. 19:13>> Not legally.
  535. 19:14>> Not legally.
  536. 19:15>> Not legally.
  537. 19:16>> But her last name is
  538. 19:18>> She changed her name from
  539. 19:20>> Okay. So you never went to Never had the
  540. 19:22forms sign on hand or any of that stuff?
  541. 19:24>> No. She would like that.
  542. 19:25>> Okay.
  543. 19:26>> She's a little different.
  544. 19:29>> But are you considered husband? Like do
  545. 19:32you consider each other like husband and
  546. 19:33wife?
  547. 19:35>> I would consider it um during our best
  548. 19:38at times. But um like I said, this was
  549. 19:40going towards the end.
  550. 19:42>> This was just her unhappiness and her
  551. 19:44screaming and yelling consistently and
  552. 19:46and baraging me and doing it in front of
  553. 19:48people, you know. And so this was it was
  554. 19:50not just in the room, you know. This was
  555. 19:53out in the open, you know. This is why I
  556. 19:54just went into the bed, you know,
  557. 19:56because I don't think she was empty.
  558. 19:59>> Okay. Uh, so these two spears.
  559. 20:04>> Well, there was the one that went,
  560. 20:06>> right? But you're saying there's two.
  561. 20:06>> There's two at the bed. Yeah.
  562. 20:08>> They're at the foot at the bed. Of the
  563. 20:09bed.
  564. 20:09>> The foot of the bed. Yeah.
  565. 20:10>> So, each corner?
  566. 20:11>> Each corner. Yeah.
  567. 20:13>> And they're being held up by how?
  568. 20:15>> Uh, uh, tie wraps on the bottom
  569. 20:18>> of the of the legs of the bed.
  570. 20:19>> Yes. So, they tie wraps on the bottom of
  571. 20:21the bed. So if it had cracked, it had to
  572. 20:24have cracked, I don't know, towards the
  573. 20:26middle of the spear area, the black
  574. 20:29part.
  575. 20:29>> So it had to have cracked in the weakest
  576. 20:31part.
  577. 20:33>> Okay.
  578. 20:34>> All right.
  579. 20:37>> And did you actually see her grab the
  580. 20:41spear?
  581. 20:42>> I saw her grabbing the spear as I was
  582. 20:44pulling her, but I just because I'm
  583. 20:46pulling her and my back is to her as I'm
  584. 20:48pulling her. So I do hear a snap. Um,
  585. 20:52and that by that point, it's not too far
  586. 20:55away from the bed to the back where the
  587. 20:57bathroom is. It's right there. And
  588. 20:59that's when I had turned around and I
  589. 21:01had was pulling and then I saw it in her
  590. 21:04and then I stopped
  591. 21:06again.
  592. 21:08That's why I didn't realize the damage.
  593. 21:10I really didn't realize what had
  594. 21:12happened.
  595. 21:12>> Was there any screaming?
  596. 21:13>> She didn't scream. Nothing. She didn't
  597. 21:16make a sound. She didn't make a sound.
  598. 21:18And when I had got to pull it out, I saw
  599. 21:22a lot of blood coming out of out of her
  600. 21:24throat. Uh, that's when I panicked
  601. 21:26again. That's when I got Morgan. And she
  602. 21:30didn't scream at all. She didn't yell
  603. 21:31out, nothing. I didn't really even
  604. 21:33notice the damage. I I thought even just
  605. 21:35having it in her hand maybe. I I didn't
  606. 21:38even realize it was really
  607. 21:40>> Did you So when you pulled it out, how
  608. 21:44much of the shaft of the sphere? It was
  609. 21:48just well the head was it but the the
  610. 21:50shaft might have been about that tall.
  611. 21:52It was broken obviously. So
  612. 21:53>> So out of her body the shaft was this
  613. 21:57about this long
  614. 22:00>> I would say. Yeah. The black area part
  615. 22:02was about this long. But again I didn't
  616. 22:05realize that there was damage until
  617. 22:08I had
  618. 22:08>> How long do you think the blade is?
  619. 22:11>> Pretty long. It was the blade might have
  620. 22:13been about I don't know 8 8 in maybe
  621. 22:16even 10 but it was about it's pretty low
  622. 22:19blade
  623. 22:21>> and
  624. 22:23they they have sheets on them.
  625. 22:25>> I'm sorry.
  626. 22:26>> They have sheets on.
  627. 22:27>> Yeah, they had uh leather sheets on top
  628. 22:29of them which is why I didn't think they
  629. 22:30would be a threat or a danger. Um and
  630. 22:32they
  631. 22:33>> So where's the other sheet?
  632. 22:34>> Where's the other sheath? It should have
  633. 22:37been on the deck. That's why I saw I
  634. 22:39didn't
  635. 22:40>> Did you see it on the ground?
  636. 22:42>> I can tell it was dark. Yeah, because I
  637. 22:44had the lights off. I was trying to
  638. 22:45sleep. So, it could have been on the
  639. 22:47ground,
  640. 22:48>> but if it had cracked, it could have
  641. 22:50just fallen off and then as it
  642. 22:52approaches I I haven't seen it during
  643. 22:55that whole ordeal at all. So,
  644. 23:00>> did you ever push her or anything?
  645. 23:02>> No, I only pulled her off the bed trying
  646. 23:04to get her out of the I didn't push her
  647. 23:05at all.
  648. 23:09How do you know
  649. 23:12this other uh woman that's staying
  650. 23:15there?
  651. 23:16>> I'm sorry.
  652. 23:16>> This other woman, Morgan.
  653. 23:18>> Morgan. Yeah, she's a ghost.
  654. 23:19>> What do you mean?
  655. 23:20>> She's a ghost. She was just staying with
  656. 23:22us.
  657. 23:23>> Is she your friend or her friend?
  658. 23:26>> Yeah, it was really her friend.
  659. 23:29>> From where?
  660. 23:30>> She's from Colorado.
  661. 23:33>> She's you visiting.
  662. 23:35>> She was visiting. She's visiting
  663. 23:37>> for about a week. Yeah, that's how I I
  664. 23:39because you have to when they when I
  665. 23:41have visitors, you have to let the the
  666. 23:43building know. So, yeah, she was about
  667. 23:45to be there for about a week.
  668. 23:48>> Was she paying you guys?
  669. 23:50>> She was I think she was giving money to
  670. 23:52my girl. I'm not I didn't receive any
  671. 23:55money from her, but um I think maybe
  672. 23:57they had an arrangement or something.
  673. 23:59>> Mhm.
  674. 23:59>> Yeah.
  675. 24:01>> So, did uh but do they know each other
  676. 24:04prior than this last week? These last
  677. 24:05three weeks, I believe. So yes, again I
  678. 24:08I didn't know her until
  679. 24:10>> she had come she had come over but they
  680. 24:12had been talking to each other and
  681. 24:14knowing each other. So they were
  682. 24:16>> prior to the beginning of this month.
  683. 24:17>> Prior to the Yeah.
  684. 24:19>> And um
  685. 24:22I mean you did you guys have a
  686. 24:24conversation about having her stay
  687. 24:26there?
  688. 24:27>> Yes. So they asked she asked is it okay
  689. 24:29if my parent stays there? And I said
  690. 24:30yes. Okay. That's fine.
  691. 24:33>> Okay. And the dog?
  692. 24:35>> Her dog? Yeah, I have one, too. I have a
  693. 24:38service dog. She has a service dog.
  694. 24:40>> Oh, yeah.
  695. 24:40>> Yeah.
  696. 24:43>> Do you guys ever argue about anything?
  697. 24:45>> Uh, being organ?
  698. 24:46>> No, you and Sylvia.
  699. 24:49>> Do we argue about
  700. 24:50>> about anything else other than maybe
  701. 24:52when she gets drunk and being
  702. 24:53belligerent? Have you guys argued about
  703. 24:55anything else later
  704. 24:56>> for this for today or last few days?
  705. 24:59>> Yeah. Yeah. Plenty of that. Plenty of
  706. 25:01that in basic marriage stuff. I'm not
  707. 25:03doing a lot. I'm not talking. I'm not,
  708. 25:06you know, communicating or connecting.
  709. 25:08Um, yeah, she's been she's been very
  710. 25:10very um forward with that. Um, but she's
  711. 25:14also going through a lot of stuff with
  712. 25:16her mom, you know, um, having family
  713. 25:19issues that she was going through. And
  714. 25:20so, I think sometimes it it gets to her.
  715. 25:23And so, sometimes I think it's a
  716. 25:25misdirection of anger because, you know,
  717. 25:27she can't really scream at her mom.
  718. 25:29Mom's mal. But she does scream on me.
  719. 25:33So, you know, calls me a piece of [ __ ]
  720. 25:35You know,
  721. 25:36>> I'm not this, I'm not that
  722. 25:39good basics.
  723. 25:41>> Mhm.
  724. 25:42>> So, I wouldn't say that there's one
  725. 25:44thing that we argue about aside from a
  726. 25:47disconnection.
  727. 25:49So, that's what
  728. 25:51>> How long have you two been together?
  729. 25:53>> About two years. A little more. Yeah. A
  730. 25:55little more than two years. Yeah.
  731. 26:00Have the police ever been to your place
  732. 26:01before?
  733. 26:02>> There was a time that um because she's a
  734. 26:05nose bleeder, like she bleeds a lot from
  735. 26:07her nose, um that we had argued and she
  736. 26:09had ran out and there was blood out her
  737. 26:11nose and so the security thought it was
  738. 26:13a physical act and and then it was then
  739. 26:16Yes. And I was arrested for some
  740. 26:19domestic violence. Um but those cases
  741. 26:21were dropped because none of that was
  742. 26:23really true. And um yeah, and that was
  743. 26:25it. What time do you think you got back
  744. 26:28to the hotel or back to the condo?
  745. 26:31>> I suspect around 1.
  746. 26:33>> Around 1.
  747. 26:34>> Yeah, I suspect.
  748. 26:36>> So you guys were there for a while
  749. 26:38>> at the condo?
  750. 26:38>> Mhm.
  751. 26:40>> I don't know. I was trying to sleep.
  752. 26:43So whether I was
  753. 26:44>> about an hour
  754. 26:45>> perhaps.
  755. 26:47So there was a lot of back and forth of
  756. 26:49her coming in and out. Like I said,
  757. 26:51being a religion, yelling and screaming
  758. 26:53>> and kept coming back in. I looked in. So
  759. 26:55perhaps an hour passed.
  760. 26:57>> Mhm.
  761. 26:57>> That's true.
  762. 26:58>> Um,
  763. 27:01did you do anything with your phone or
  764. 27:03anything like that when you guys when
  765. 27:04you first got back? Like would we be a
  766. 27:07way that we could tell other than video?
  767. 27:10>> No. Other than other times that we had
  768. 27:13argued. I have recorded her threatening
  769. 27:15me to kill herself or
  770. 27:17>> Did you ever try to get her out for
  771. 27:19that?
  772. 27:19>> I tried, but she wouldn't she wouldn't
  773. 27:21go. And so, you know, I I thought we
  774. 27:24could work through it, you know, if she
  775. 27:26blames me a lot. Um, but her dad had a
  776. 27:29certain sense. So, you know, she's uh to
  777. 27:32her was
  778. 27:34easier for her to do it. But yeah, you
  779. 27:36know, like I said, I had broken the door
  780. 27:39trying to save her from doing that,
  781. 27:42which is why my door was broken in the
  782. 27:44first place. And so I I just have
  783. 27:46recordings of her
  784. 27:49coming back and forth. Other times where
  785. 27:51nothing had happened, just her coming in
  786. 27:54and and screaming and yelling and
  787. 27:56throwing fits and and you know just
  788. 27:58carrying on. I just call them fits.
  789. 28:01>> Mhm.
  790. 28:01>> So excuse me. That's what she does. She
  791. 28:03does in front of people. So she kind of
  792. 28:04has fits. You know, she just starts
  793. 28:06acting out and rage. Um but I have
  794. 28:09recorded those. Uh those are other times
  795. 28:12though. Nothing um like
  796. 28:16So, she jumps on the bed,
  797. 28:19>> right?
  798. 28:21>> You grab the sheets.
  799. 28:24>> No, no. I get up. I tell her, "Please
  800. 28:26leave." I tell her, "Look, I want
  801. 28:28>> Yeah.
  802. 28:28>> Yeah. So, I I we're having a discussion
  803. 28:30while she's on the bed and I'm off the
  804. 28:33bed." And that's when I had at some
  805. 28:35point where she's not leaving. She's not
  806. 28:37going. She's getting belligerent and I I
  807. 28:39just couldn't take it at this point. So,
  808. 28:41I just said, "All right, well then I'm
  809. 28:42letting drag you out." So I'm standing
  810. 28:44at the foot of the bed and I pull her
  811. 28:46leg and she's just going with it kind
  812. 28:49of, you know, playing the the dummy role
  813. 28:52where just standing there holding up and
  814. 28:56that was it.
  815. 28:57>> Mhm.
  816. 28:57>> Unless she must have grabbed stab.
  817. 29:01>> Was it her leg or her or the sheets?
  818. 29:04>> Well, I guess the leg and the sheets at
  819. 29:07the same time because her feet are right
  820. 29:09in the blankets. So as I'm pulling her,
  821. 29:11the blankets are coming with us.
  822. 29:13Sorry about my used to.
  823. 29:14>> Mhm. So you're you're pulling her from
  824. 29:16the the uh
  825. 29:17>> from the ankle from behind behind the
  826. 29:19ankle. So I might have the sheets with
  827. 29:21my hands.
  828. 29:23>> Okay. And you're pulling
  829. 29:26>> towards the door towards the door,
  830. 29:28>> right?
  831. 29:29>> And the spears are at the edges at the
  832. 29:31foot of the bed.
  833. 29:32>> On the foot of the bed. I'm pulling it
  834. 29:35towards the door. And I guess again
  835. 29:38onto the spear. So which because I I I
  836. 29:41haven't gone in so I don't know which
  837. 29:44>> which spear was it.
  838. 29:47>> If I was looking at the door
  839. 29:48>> if you're coming from the door
  840. 29:49>> you're coming from the door it would
  841. 29:51have to be on the right side.
  842. 29:53>> Okay.
  843. 29:53>> Yeah. That would be like her side. But
  844. 29:55>> does it have to be or is it?
  845. 29:57>> Well because if I'm looking at the door
  846. 29:59it would have to be on the right side.
  847. 30:02>> But that saying that is that is the one
  848. 30:04that's broken.
  849. 30:04>> That is the one that's broken.
  850. 30:05>> Okay.
  851. 30:07Okay. This was her side.
  852. 30:18>> Thanks for being patient.
  853. 30:22>> Um,
  854. 30:35can you do me a favor?
  855. 30:37fraud your room with the bed and how you
  856. 30:41pulled her off the bed.
  857. 30:44>> Show my room with the bed.
  858. 30:52>> Yeah.
  859. 30:55So, she was here
  860. 31:01and I pulled her ankles from here over
  861. 31:05here.
  862. 31:09just wanted her to leave.
  863. 31:11>> H
  864. 31:12>> I just wanted her to leave the room.
  865. 31:15>> I don't know what those that would
  866. 31:16happen.
  867. 31:20>> And does she have family
  868. 31:24>> here?
  869. 31:25>> Mhm.
  870. 31:25>> No.
  871. 31:26>> Where is her family?
  872. 31:28>> Uh Mexico.
  873. 31:30>> No other relatives here?
  874. 31:32>> Oh, yeah. Well, uh, she might have a
  875. 31:36distant aunt somewhere in Orlando.
  876. 31:38Um, but I don't think they talk.
  877. 31:41>> Do you know any of her relatives in
  878. 31:42Mexico?
  879. 31:43>> Only in Mexico.
  880. 31:44>> Do you know any of them?
  881. 31:45>> Only in Mexico.
  882. 31:46>> That's what I'm asking. Do you know any
  883. 31:47of them?
  884. 31:48>> I by name. Yeah. Like, but they're in
  885. 31:50Mexico. I wouldn't say I know them. You
  886. 31:53know, we we've met, we've visited.
  887. 31:56>> Yeah, that's about it.
  888. 32:01>> And her mom's in Mexico. Mom's still
  889. 32:02alive.
  890. 32:03>> Yeah, my mom's still alive and she's
  891. 32:04having really bad problems with her mom.
  892. 32:06But this is what I think was a lot of
  893. 32:08the anger issues that she was having.
  894. 32:10She's been having a really hard time
  895. 32:12with her mom stealing her money and
  896. 32:16possibly assisting her dad's side. We
  897. 32:18don't know, but she's been very upset.
  898. 32:21>> Does she have any uh
  899. 32:24brother sisters?
  900. 32:25>> She has a sister
  901. 32:27>> in Mexico. In Mexico.
  902. 32:30Okay.
  903. 32:34Just do me a favor cuz so based off of
  904. 32:39what we have right here, just put your
  905. 32:43initials right here to say that. So that
  906. 32:47>> Yeah.
  907. 32:51Thank you.
  908. 32:55>> We're going to probably talk a little
  909. 32:57bit later. Okay. You have to be patient.
  910. 32:59This is the process that happens when
  911. 33:02stuff like this happens. Okay.
  912. 33:05>> So, I mean in in your eyes, this is what
  913. 33:10>> an accident.
  914. 33:11>> Okay.
  915. 33:12>> Absolutely. Okay.
  916. 33:16>> All right. Is there anything else that
  917. 33:18you want to add right now that you can
  918. 33:20think of that I might ask?
  919. 33:28Um,
  920. 33:32I'm going to end this for now. Okay.
  921. 33:34We're going to talk a little bit later.
  922. 33:36You okay with that? I got to do a couple
  923. 33:38more things. Cool.
  924. 33:39>> You know, I want to So, you know, I got
  925. 33:41to, you know, there's some things that I
  926. 33:42got to I got do my own thing and then I
  927. 33:45might have I might have questions for
  928. 33:47you. I don't know. Okay.
  929. 33:48>> Yet. So, but I am going to let you know
  930. 33:51that we are probably going to talk later
  931. 33:52either way. Okay. Okay.
  932. 33:55Um, I mean, do you know her condition
  933. 33:57right now? No,
  934. 33:59>> I don't.
  935. 34:05>> So, you don't know if she's alive or
  936. 34:07dead?
  937. 34:10>> I hope she's okay.
  938. 34:13>> Okay.
  939. 34:15All right. The statement is concluded
  940. 34:20July 12th, 2019 at 8:05 hours.
  941. 34:25Okay, I'll be back in a little bit. Um,
  942. 34:30take him back. Put him back in the car.
  943. 34:32Okay. And I know
  944. 34:35somebody might want to switch out.
  945. 34:36>> Yeah, I'll have somebody switch out.
  946. 34:38>> All right. And um, you know, we'll talk
  947. 34:41in a little bit. All right. I'll walk
  948. 34:43down.
  949. 34:55Hey, how you doing?
  950. 34:58>> You all right?
  951. 35:00>> Yeah. No cold.
  952. 35:02>> Cold?
  953. 35:03>> Freezing them out?
  954. 35:05>> What?
  955. 35:05>> Huh?
  956. 35:06>> Was he freezing you out?
  957. 35:07>> No, no, no. I was just changing
  958. 35:09temperature.
  959. 35:10>> Is it cold in here?
  960. 35:11>> Well, from the car to here. Yeah, I can
  961. 35:13tell the difference. It's
  962. 35:16um
  963. 35:22Are you okay with uh us doing a a bugle
  964. 35:26swab?
  965. 35:28>> Swab.
  966. 35:28>> Bugle swab, which is uh we use Q-tip
  967. 35:31swab your mouth. It's for your DNA.
  968. 35:35>> I mean, your DNA is going to be all over
  969. 35:36the place,
  970. 35:37>> but this is one of the procedures that
  971. 35:39we're going to have to do. It's either
  972. 35:40you give it or we end up writing a
  973. 35:42warrant to get it. It's good.
  974. 35:44>> Like you said, DNA is everywhere in your
  975. 35:46house.
  976. 35:47>> Yeah.
  977. 35:49>> I'm just going to wait. I'm going to
  978. 35:50wait for him. We'll get that done first
  979. 35:52and then we'll talk some more. Okay.
  980. 35:55You need anything else? See, you get to
  981. 35:57get water.
  982. 35:58>> I was just really hesitant.
  983. 36:05Nothing's been moved. We haven't been
  984. 36:07Nobody else has been in here since since
  985. 36:09you were in here last.
  986. 36:13that I'm aware of at least.
  987. 36:18>> Do you know Morgan's password on her
  988. 36:21phone?
  989. 36:22>> Password? I don't know anybody's
  990. 36:24password.
  991. 36:37>> Do you know if she has passport on her
  992. 36:39phone? I never even seen her phone. She
  993. 36:42has a little wallet or something.
  994. 36:43>> Do you guys not live together?
  995. 36:45>> No, she was just visiting us. So, yeah.
  996. 36:49>> Okay.
  997. 36:50>> Um, how about
  998. 36:53>> Morgan, right?
  999. 36:53>> Oh, well, I'm about to ask you about
  1000. 36:55Silia.
  1001. 36:55>> Silia I did live with. Morgan is a
  1002. 36:58visitor.
  1003. 36:59>> Okay. So, and do you have Sylvia's
  1004. 37:01password?
  1005. 37:02>> I don't have Sylvia's password.
  1006. 37:03>> Right.
  1007. 37:06>> Do you know if she has a password on her
  1008. 37:08phone? I mean, everybody does nowadays,
  1009. 37:10I think.
  1010. 37:11>> A lot of people do, but yeah, there are
  1011. 37:12some people that don't.
  1012. 37:13>> I think it's her face or something.
  1013. 37:14>> She does facial recog.
  1014. 37:17>> That's an Apple phone, right? Or they do
  1015. 37:19that on all the phones now.
  1016. 37:20>> The Galaxy, I think.
  1017. 37:22>> Is it a Galaxy?
  1018. 37:27>> This is a
  1019. 37:29>> You got me?
  1020. 37:30>> Yeah. He He said he's good with it.
  1021. 37:32>> Okay.
  1022. 37:36>> Can I keep that pen?
  1023. 37:37>> Absolutely.
  1024. 37:38cuz it's been I don't like it
  1025. 37:43the be the 12th. Yeah,
  1026. 37:50>> Adam Creswell. Correct.
  1027. 37:52>> 53176.
  1028. 37:53>> I'm sorry.
  1029. 37:54>> 53176.
  1030. 38:16Okay. To reiterate, this is just taking
  1031. 38:19all
  1032. 38:19>> he's going to use a Q-tips one thing.
  1033. 38:21>> Okay.
  1034. 38:22>> He's going to put it in your mouth.
  1035. 38:24>> Okay.
  1036. 38:25>> And he's going to basically collect
  1037. 38:26saliva.
  1038. 38:27>> Yeah.
  1039. 38:27>> Okay.
  1040. 38:28>> And then he's going to put it back in
  1041. 38:30here.
  1042. 38:31>> Okay. And then they're going to take it
  1043. 38:32to the the lab and then they're going to
  1044. 38:36get your DNA sample that way.
  1045. 38:38>> Okay.
  1046. 38:38>> That's what it was for. And then it's
  1047. 38:41used to match up DNA
  1048. 38:43from other evidence on scene.
  1049. 38:46>> Sorry.
  1050. 39:22All these advise
  1051. 39:28you everything from before is a
  1052. 39:31continuation. So technically you're
  1053. 39:32still under oath,
  1054. 39:34>> right? Still under oath.
  1055. 39:36>> Okay. And you're still under the
  1056. 39:38Miranda.
  1057. 39:40>> Okay.
  1058. 39:41So any any uh questions about that?
  1059. 39:44>> Um
  1060. 39:48>> any Right.
  1061. 39:49>> Yeah. Do you have any questions though?
  1062. 39:51like do you
  1063. 39:51>> about my rights
  1064. 39:52>> my rights your rights or any any
  1065. 39:54questions in general
  1066. 39:55>> right now
  1067. 39:58>> right now I'm just waiting to see your
  1068. 40:00question you want to ask so I can answer
  1069. 40:02>> okay
  1070. 40:10>> so when we were at your
  1071. 40:15condo
  1072. 40:22Sorry.
  1073. 40:32and
  1074. 40:34and we saw the uh
  1075. 40:39spear.
  1076. 40:42>> Um the zip ties that you used and
  1077. 40:44everything.
  1078. 40:46>> The zip ties that you used to to lock it
  1079. 40:48up to the uh to the bed.
  1080. 40:50>> Oh, the zip tie was on.
  1081. 40:51>> Yeah. Yeah. Um one second.
  1082. 41:07It's just one of the officers that were
  1083. 41:08over at your place. I guess he probably
  1084. 41:11asking if you can leave. Um,
  1085. 41:18all right. So, when you you're saying
  1086. 41:21that you grabbed her legs, right? Or
  1087. 41:23>> grabbed her ankles.
  1088. 41:24>> You grabbed her ankles.
  1089. 41:25>> Both ankles.
  1090. 41:27Yeah. So, I wanted to get her off. So, I
  1091. 41:30have my hands to pull her off the bed.
  1092. 41:32>> Well, that that's what I'm trying to
  1093. 41:34find out. Did you grab like one leg and
  1094. 41:37pull on it or did you grab both her
  1095. 41:38legs?
  1096. 41:39>> Both legs to try to pull.
  1097. 41:40>> Okay. So, you pull and
  1098. 41:43you showed me this picture here, right?
  1099. 41:47Where you're on the right side of the
  1100. 41:48bed.
  1101. 41:55>> Mhm. and you're trying to pull her off
  1102. 41:57the bed, it's going to turn, right?
  1103. 42:00Because
  1104. 42:00>> off to the side, not down the middle,
  1105. 42:03>> right?
  1106. 42:03>> So, you're on the right side of the bed.
  1107. 42:05Let's pretend this is the bed again.
  1108. 42:06>> Okay?
  1109. 42:07>> And here's the head of the bed,
  1110. 42:08>> right? You have your the windows here,
  1111. 42:12right? Here's the foot of the bed,
  1112. 42:13>> right?
  1113. 42:14>> Here is the side of the bed that you're
  1114. 42:16grabbing her from.
  1115. 42:17>> Correct.
  1116. 42:18>> Here is the spear.
  1117. 42:19>> Spear.
  1118. 42:20>> She's being pulled off the bed
  1119. 42:22>> sideways
  1120. 42:23>> here.
  1121. 42:23>> Yes. And then you have to turn her.
  1122. 42:26>> Yes. To pull this horse.
  1123. 42:28>> Okay.
  1124. 42:28>> And she grabs.
  1125. 42:30>> So I believe because at this point she
  1126. 42:33was had to have grabbed this
  1127. 42:35>> when when
  1128. 42:35>> let's back it up a little bit. Now
  1129. 42:37>> when you grab her legs,
  1130. 42:39>> right?
  1131. 42:40>> Is she on her back?
  1132. 42:42>> Kind of on her back. Um
  1133. 42:45>> which way is her feet facing?
  1134. 42:48>> When you since you have her ankles, her
  1135. 42:49feet are right there. So, are her feet
  1136. 42:52up?
  1137. 42:53>> Yes, they were they were up. They were
  1138. 42:55up. And when I got her off the bed,
  1139. 43:01that's when I
  1140. 43:03turn I'm turning around, so I'm not even
  1141. 43:05really looking at her, but I still have
  1142. 43:08her ankles.
  1143. 43:10>> Okay.
  1144. 43:10>> Um, and I'm trying to move. It's a
  1145. 43:12little difficult to move cuz she's
  1146. 43:14>> So, both her legs are on
  1147. 43:17coming around the side of the bed.
  1148. 43:19>> Right. Right. So, so here here's this
  1149. 43:22piece,
  1150. 43:22>> right?
  1151. 43:23>> Both legs are here.
  1152. 43:25>> Right. So, as I'm
  1153. 43:26>> And then you're pulling this way
  1154. 43:27>> this way. So, at this point, I suspect
  1155. 43:30her arm is already on this
  1156. 43:32>> thing right here.
  1157. 43:34>> And but by that point, I'm already
  1158. 43:37turned around.
  1159. 43:38>> You see her grab?
  1160. 43:39>> I see her grabbing the thing. I see her
  1161. 43:41grabbing when I'm pulling it down.
  1162. 43:42>> Okay. So, you see her grab it,
  1163. 43:44>> right? Um, that's when I try to off the
  1164. 43:47bed. How
  1165. 43:49high
  1166. 43:51off the bed?
  1167. 43:52>> Uhhuh.
  1168. 43:53>> Does she grab
  1169. 43:55>> sha the spear shaft?
  1170. 43:57>> As she's coming off of the as she's
  1171. 44:00coming off the bed, her upper body, her
  1172. 44:02armpit will be right about here.
  1173. 44:05>> Well, that's what I'm saying. Is it Is
  1174. 44:06it Is it
  1175. 44:07>> She's not completely off the bed. She's
  1176. 44:09not completely off the bed because she's
  1177. 44:10still holding on to this still holding
  1178. 44:12on to this thing. M
  1179. 44:14>> um I at this point I figure she'll let
  1180. 44:16it go. I turn around and just keep
  1181. 44:19pulling and
  1182. 44:21>> that's when I get the snap.
  1183. 44:22>> So So here's the bed, right? Here's the
  1184. 44:25level. Here is the plane of the bed.
  1185. 44:27>> Right.
  1186. 44:28>> And here is your spear.
  1187. 44:31>> Right.
  1188. 44:31>> Right. And it continues down.
  1189. 44:33>> Right.
  1190. 44:34>> Does she grab here? Does she grab here?
  1191. 44:38Does she grab here?
  1192. 44:41>> I'm going to be honest. I I don't I
  1193. 44:42really can't recall at what part of the
  1194. 44:45post cuz as I'm looking at her as I'm
  1195. 44:48pulling on
  1196. 44:49>> and there's a little bit of momentum
  1197. 44:51there. So all I do see is it it is it's
  1198. 44:56her holding on to it or
  1199. 44:58>> is it with her hand?
  1200. 45:00>> No, no, no. She's at this point it's
  1201. 45:02right here. But as I'm pulling, she's
  1202. 45:06still holding on to it. So as I
  1203. 45:09>> Okay. So now that motion you're giving
  1204. 45:11me
  1205. 45:12>> is she's grabbing it with her left arm.
  1206. 45:16>> Well, no, she still has it here. She's
  1207. 45:18holding on to it. Yeah, she's holding on
  1208. 45:20to it.
  1209. 45:20>> Well, right. So, but you're saying she's
  1210. 45:22wrapping she's wrapping her right arm.
  1211. 45:25>> She's
  1212. 45:27holding on to it. Yes, I would I would
  1213. 45:29say she was doing that again.
  1214. 45:30>> So, she's more hugging it.
  1215. 45:31>> She's more what
  1216. 45:32>> is she hugging it or does she actually
  1217. 45:34put her hands on it? I I seem to well at
  1218. 45:37least I want to believe that she put her
  1219. 45:39hands on it because it was so properly
  1220. 45:41there. It doesn't make sense for her not
  1221. 45:44to have her hand on it and it was
  1222. 45:46difficult to pull her off. So, it's not
  1223. 45:48like she's sliding willy-nilly. She's
  1224. 45:51holding on to it. So, at this point,
  1225. 45:54she's holding on
  1226. 45:56and she's getting off the bed. I'm still
  1227. 46:00pulling her. I'm turning around.
  1228. 46:04I don't see what happens. All I hear is
  1229. 46:06the snap. I suspect at this point is
  1230. 46:10when the thing it broke. I didn't even
  1231. 46:13see
  1232. 46:15it even in her until I I'm pulling on
  1233. 46:18turn around. Then I see it and I and I
  1234. 46:22saw it in her. I didn't see how bad it
  1235. 46:25was until her blood and the blanket was
  1236. 46:28still on the floor. I had a a black
  1237. 46:30silk. So, be before you go pulling her
  1238. 46:33off the bed,
  1239. 46:36there's
  1240. 46:37Well, how many sheets on the bed?
  1241. 46:40>> Well, there's a quilt. Uh,
  1242. 46:41>> what color is that quilt?
  1243. 46:43>> Gray.
  1244. 46:44>> Okay.
  1245. 46:44>> And
  1246. 46:44>> is she on top of that?
  1247. 46:46>> I don't believe so. Now, I think
  1248. 46:48>> just laying there.
  1249. 46:49>> Yeah, cuz it's kind of like curled up in
  1250. 46:51a ball. It's kind of hot throughout the
  1251. 46:54curled up. Um, and I believe that's
  1252. 46:57where I meant the the the sheet where
  1253. 47:00the black sheet was probably under her
  1254. 47:03as I'm pulling with her because
  1255. 47:05>> is it the black sheet
  1256. 47:07that you that most people normally kind
  1257. 47:10of sleep under
  1258. 47:11>> like it's Yeah.
  1259. 47:12>> And then then you have another sheet
  1260. 47:14that is
  1261. 47:16wrapped around.
  1262. 47:16>> Right. Right.
  1263. 47:17>> So you're talking about the sheet
  1264. 47:19>> a thin sheet a thin black sheet that we
  1265. 47:21usually use to cover ourselves. Not the
  1266. 47:23big quilt. The cons is kind of hardening
  1267. 47:26the quilts. So, it's not something we
  1268. 47:28use often.
  1269. 47:29>> But she wasn't on it. No.
  1270. 47:31>> Okay.
  1271. 47:32>> No.
  1272. 47:33>> And but was she on top of the other
  1273. 47:36sheet?
  1274. 47:37>> I believe she was because as I'm pulling
  1275. 47:39her, the sheet is coming off with her.
  1276. 47:41And so when I get onto the floor, I
  1277. 47:46guess because of the black sheet, I
  1278. 47:48don't really see any blood or anything
  1279. 47:51like that. I didn't hear
  1280. 47:53it. It's it's it's in her. She gives me
  1281. 47:56a look I didn't hear and
  1282. 48:00that's when I saw the wound.
  1283. 48:03And then I I start to freak out. Um and
  1284. 48:06then I I pick up the sheet. I like the
  1285. 48:09sheet because I'm next to her and I see
  1286. 48:11the blood on the floor.
  1287. 48:13That's it. I mean, that's what happened.
  1288. 48:15And then I know the uh EMT guys wants to
  1289. 48:19throw the big sheet on the floor. maybe
  1290. 48:21to soak up the blood of retraction, not
  1291. 48:23the slip. I don't know. But they did
  1292. 48:25throw that thing on the floor. Um, but
  1293. 48:28they were attending to her already, but
  1294. 48:30they threw it on the floor
  1295. 48:31>> and and prior to
  1296. 48:35you trying to pull her off the bed.
  1297. 48:38There was the sheath on the plate,
  1298. 48:40>> right? The sheath was on the bed.
  1299. 48:41>> That's something that's always probably
  1300. 48:42on, right?
  1301. 48:43>> Yeah. Because I have a black a black um
  1302. 48:46the black sheet and then I have a black
  1303. 48:48um the bedspread. Mhm.
  1304. 48:50>> So, I don't know where it ends or where
  1305. 48:52it began, but it's when I'm pulling off,
  1306. 48:54it's it's out. So, she must be on it.
  1307. 48:58>> Well, what my question was the sheath on
  1308. 49:00the blade that's always on.
  1309. 49:02>> Oh, the she was is always on. It's
  1310. 49:04always on. That's why I never would have
  1311. 49:06thought something bad would have
  1312. 49:07happened if I know something would
  1313. 49:08happen. But it's always on. And it's got
  1314. 49:12a little tie on it, a little leather tie
  1315. 49:14on it. It's never come off. But then
  1316. 49:17again, no one's ever broken. Um,
  1317. 49:21yeah. I don't I mean, it started off
  1318. 49:24>> when you turned
  1319. 49:27>> and look
  1320. 49:29>> and saw her on the ground with the
  1321. 49:30blade. I
  1322. 49:31>> didn't see her on the ground.
  1323. 49:32>> She was on her
  1324. 49:33>> She was on her back.
  1325. 49:34>> On her back.
  1326. 49:35>> Right.
  1327. 49:57Sorry if I seem a little stressed out.
  1328. 50:00>> Well,
  1329. 50:03it's quite understandable.
  1330. 50:08The piece that broke.
  1331. 50:11Okay.
  1332. 50:16It is
  1333. 50:30the the shaft to
  1334. 50:35the hand the the beginning of the blade
  1335. 50:38right
  1336. 50:40is 72 in long from or it broke.
  1337. 50:45The blade is 12 in long.
  1338. 50:52Your bed
  1339. 50:55is 2 ft high. Ultra.
  1340. 51:03How
  1341. 51:06can she
  1342. 51:08how can this blade penetrate
  1343. 51:11her from
  1344. 51:13>> those dimensions?
  1345. 51:14>> I could tell you theories, but I don't
  1346. 51:17really know cuz I wasn't looking.
  1347. 51:18>> Mhm.
  1348. 51:19>> All I do know is as it cracks, as I
  1349. 51:22suspected,
  1350. 51:25it's here. She's holding up
  1351. 51:28and it falls.
  1352. 51:30on her or it cracks
  1353. 51:34and because she is she regularly stab
  1354. 51:37herself with it while I'm put carrying
  1355. 51:39her off or
  1356. 51:42>> Okay, let's let's back up.
  1357. 51:44>> Because you're saying she's Is there any
  1358. 51:48documentation to this?
  1359. 51:50>> I have uh evidence, video, andor verbal
  1360. 51:55um discussions with her with her
  1361. 51:58attempting to kill herself.
  1362. 52:00while I am trying to save her or and or
  1363. 52:05threatening to do so. Um,
  1364. 52:09>> has she ever received any medical
  1365. 52:10attention for this?
  1366. 52:12>> When she was young, as I heard when she
  1367. 52:14was younger. Um,
  1368. 52:15>> you're telling recent. You said like
  1369. 52:18>> recently. No, no, not recently. Um, but
  1370. 52:21yeah, she should have and I attempted to
  1371. 52:23take her to the hospital, but she was
  1372. 52:26reluctant. She's threatened to kill
  1373. 52:27herself
  1374. 52:28>> in your presence.
  1375. 52:29>> In my apartment? Yes. Yeah.
  1376. 52:30>> And well, that's what I'm saying. In
  1377. 52:32your with you there.
  1378. 52:33>> She attempted to. Yes.
  1379. 52:35>> And you never called the police.
  1380. 52:36>> I wanted to call the police, but I'm
  1381. 52:39afraid honestly I didn't want her to get
  1382. 52:42hurt. I offered to drive her to the
  1383. 52:44hospital. Um
  1384. 52:47I offered and I we went there and then
  1385. 52:50when we get there, she doesn't even call
  1386. 52:52the hospital. She doesn't want to get
  1387. 52:53out of the car. Um but maybe talk about
  1388. 52:57I'm sorry.
  1389. 52:58>> What hospital?
  1390. 52:59>> This one right here. That's the only one
  1391. 53:01I know.
  1392. 53:02>> Um
  1393. 53:04>> yeah. And she, you know, we talk and
  1394. 53:06she's saying that she's sorry that she's
  1395. 53:10feeling this way and this is because of
  1396. 53:13the bad situation she's been in. She's
  1397. 53:15been going through a lot of stuff.
  1398. 53:17Please forgive. Maybe we can work
  1399. 53:19through this. And so that's what we
  1400. 53:22attempted to do. I didn't. It's not like
  1401. 53:24I wanted her to be sick. It's not like I
  1402. 53:28wanted her to be hurt. Not like I wanted
  1403. 53:31her in jail for whatever reasons.
  1404. 53:33>> Why would she go to jail?
  1405. 53:35>> I don't know. People call cops. You
  1406. 53:37know, people end up in jail for some
  1407. 53:38reason. Maybe.
  1408. 53:40>> Well, she's she hospital.
  1409. 53:42>> That this is true. But in an
  1410. 53:44unreasonable situation, I didn't want
  1411. 53:47her hurt.
  1412. 53:49Um I did want her in the hospital. Um,
  1413. 53:52and she just was reluctant to go. And
  1414. 53:56yes, I've have videotapes of her, you
  1415. 54:00know, getting aggressive and being angry
  1416. 54:02and being very abusive and threatening
  1417. 54:04to do such things
  1418. 54:06>> and then, you know, make scenes and she
  1419. 54:09would do it in front of people. I'm not
  1420. 54:10I'm not the only, you know, like she
  1421. 54:11would do it in front of people. She did
  1422. 54:12it in front of Morgan. She did me. She
  1423. 54:14did it in front of Carrie. She did it in
  1424. 54:16front of a lot of other people out
  1425. 54:18there. like
  1426. 54:19>> she would just make big scenes, throw
  1427. 54:22these huge fits, and they were pretty
  1428. 54:24scary.
  1429. 54:26>> Where did she work?
  1430. 54:28>> Well, she was I had gotten her a job um
  1431. 54:32for a um a distributor. So, she was um
  1432. 54:38I don't know, passing out liquor or
  1433. 54:40something like shots or you know, for a
  1434. 54:42distributor to market
  1435. 54:44>> and that's what she was doing. That was
  1436. 54:46the last thing she was doing. Oh,
  1437. 54:48>> okay.
  1438. 54:48>> Yes, she was a big junkie. And
  1439. 54:53I mean, like I said, I don't know
  1440. 54:55exactly what had happened of how it pins
  1441. 54:57from crack to her
  1442. 55:02except all I can imagine is it holding
  1443. 55:04on and then it goes down.
  1444. 55:07Somehow the sheet comes off,
  1445. 55:09which could if it was upside down.
  1446. 55:12>> All right. So, what you're saying now is
  1447. 55:15>> theory. I was saying to I don't know I
  1448. 55:17was looking at
  1449. 55:18>> from the last point you saw her
  1450. 55:20>> right
  1451. 55:20>> because you turned your body
  1452. 55:22>> is what you're saying
  1453. 55:23>> it was already in her
  1454. 55:25>> what it was already in her it had
  1455. 55:27already happened it snapped it was in
  1456. 55:30her I turned
  1457. 55:33you know I'm I'm still angry because I
  1458. 55:35want her out just you know please just
  1459. 55:38get up and go and she gives me this look
  1460. 55:40and I realize because it's a black sheet
  1461. 55:44there and I realized what was happening.
  1462. 55:46And then
  1463. 55:47>> the last the last moment you saw her
  1464. 55:49before
  1465. 55:51you hear before you turn your body
  1466. 55:54>> before I heard the snap.
  1467. 55:56>> Right. Before that it would be be it
  1468. 55:58would be at the point right be right.
  1469. 56:00You said you turn your body when you're
  1470. 56:01pulling her off. Right. You turn away
  1471. 56:02from her.
  1472. 56:03>> I'm turn pulling her towards the bed.
  1473. 56:05>> The last that last point that you saw
  1474. 56:07her
  1475. 56:08>> right. She was
  1476. 56:09>> where was the shaft of the blade
  1477. 56:13>> comparison body when I was looking at
  1478. 56:16her pulling her foot it was not off the
  1479. 56:19bed it was still tied
  1480. 56:20>> okay that's what I'm saying
  1481. 56:21>> right
  1482. 56:22>> how where was it in comparison to her
  1483. 56:25body
  1484. 56:26>> it would have to have been like I said
  1485. 56:27at least by her armpit or arm area which
  1486. 56:32is what I'm seeing her like hold on to
  1487. 56:36it but it's such a mess I can't say
  1488. 56:39she's really holding on to it with her
  1489. 56:41armpit if she's really
  1490. 56:42>> Well, that's what I say though. But it's
  1491. 56:44so her body her body is still on the
  1492. 56:46bed, right?
  1493. 56:46>> Her
  1494. 56:47>> So her her upper body is still somewhat
  1495. 56:49on the bed at least
  1496. 56:50>> from her middle of her chest up because
  1497. 56:53you're saying that
  1498. 56:54>> Yeah. So she's still here.
  1499. 56:55>> You're saying the way you're showing me
  1500. 56:57right now is the shaft is under her
  1501. 57:00armpit
  1502. 57:00>> basically. Basically right about here.
  1503. 57:02Yeah. So, I'm not saying
  1504. 57:04>> her arm is wrapped around it like this
  1505. 57:05is what you're saying and her other hand
  1506. 57:07is on it
  1507. 57:08>> or something along those lines. Her
  1508. 57:11other arm is definitely coming towards
  1509. 57:12it. So, her left arm is here.
  1510. 57:14>> So, her upper body is still on on the
  1511. 57:16bed.
  1512. 57:16>> She's still on the bed.
  1513. 57:17>> So, this blade is sticking up right
  1514. 57:19here. Right.
  1515. 57:20>> So, it should be about to her head. I
  1516. 57:23would say it's about if it's it's about
  1517. 57:26would be about up to here. Again, I
  1518. 57:28>> It's higher than that.
  1519. 57:30>> So, it would be up to here.
  1520. 57:32um holding on to it.
  1521. 57:35It could easily just I mean from the
  1522. 57:39crack it could go in. If she's holding
  1523. 57:42on to it, it goes in or it cracks
  1524. 57:47and she's already on the floor and she
  1525. 57:49puts it in.
  1526. 57:51Again, I don't know because if she has
  1527. 57:54the state of mind, which she does have,
  1528. 57:56she would do it, which is what I was
  1529. 57:59afraid of. And that's why I wanted her
  1530. 58:00out of my room because I didn't want any
  1531. 58:03I did not expect that. But I didn't want
  1532. 58:05anything crazy to happen, which she's
  1533. 58:07done before in front of people.
  1534. 58:09>> And so I didn't want her to hurt
  1535. 58:10herself, especially in my room. I didn't
  1536. 58:13want her to make a scene because I had a
  1537. 58:16friend that we had a friend there,
  1538. 58:17Morgan. I didn't want her screaming or
  1539. 58:19making her afraid. I just wanted her to
  1540. 58:20go to sleep.
  1541. 58:22>> How long How long has Sylvia known
  1542. 58:25Morgan?
  1543. 58:27>> I that I don't know. I met uh
  1544. 58:30>> when was the first time you met Morgan?
  1545. 58:32>> Um only when she came to the house.
  1546. 58:34>> When was that?
  1547. 58:36>> Couple of days ago. Maybe almost a week
  1548. 58:39ago.
  1549. 58:40>> Almost a week ago.
  1550. 58:41>> Almost. Maybe a couple of days. Three
  1551. 58:42days about three. Maybe 3 to 5 days
  1552. 58:44depend business week. Maybe a full week.
  1553. 58:46I'm not sure.
  1554. 58:47>> Okay. And
  1555. 58:50you've never received any money from
  1556. 58:52her?
  1557. 58:52>> I never received any money from her. No.
  1558. 58:55>> No.
  1559. 58:56I don't know. They had an arrangement
  1560. 58:58because she had her own little room and
  1561. 59:00they she had asked me if she prefer
  1562. 59:02>> You never heard of uh
  1563. 59:06>> couch surfing.
  1564. 59:07>> That's what they do. So, I don't know if
  1565. 59:09any money passes through it. I don't do
  1566. 59:11it myself. I've never done it. But I was
  1567. 59:13open to her ideas. So, I wanted her to
  1568. 59:16be happy. I thought this made her happy.
  1569. 59:39So remember I told you that the shaft
  1570. 59:42from the point of break to where the
  1571. 59:44blade is is 72 in.
  1572. 59:47>> Show me that on about this big.
  1573. 59:50>> How many feet how many how many inches
  1574. 59:52in a foot?
  1575. 59:53>> Well, it's 12 inches in a foot.
  1576. 59:56>> So what?
  1577. 59:57>> 12 24 36.
  1578. 59:59>> Give me a visual.
  1579. 1:00:00>> 60. Okay.
  1580. 1:00:02>> 72.
  1581. 1:00:03>> Okay.
  1582. 1:00:04>> 6 ft.
  1583. 1:00:05>> Okay.
  1584. 1:00:05>> My height.
  1585. 1:00:06>> Okay.
  1586. 1:00:08>> Up in the air.
  1587. 1:00:10>> Okay.
  1588. 1:00:10>> Then the blade.
  1589. 1:00:11>> Okay.
  1590. 1:00:11>> Which is another foot. Then the
  1591. 1:00:16the uh sheath has to come off,
  1592. 1:00:19>> right? It has to unless like I said, if
  1593. 1:00:22it grow
  1594. 1:00:22>> this piece is sticking up here,
  1595. 1:00:24>> right,
  1596. 1:00:25>> in the air.
  1597. 1:00:26>> How does it get into it? How does it
  1598. 1:00:28come around
  1599. 1:00:30>> at that height? So from where she is and
  1600. 1:00:34then
  1601. 1:00:35>> if you think about it, if she's falling
  1602. 1:00:37from it and she's holding on to it,
  1603. 1:00:40anything could happen. If she's holding
  1604. 1:00:41on to it from here, this big piece is
  1605. 1:00:44sitting here and it folds in any way or
  1606. 1:00:47she falls in a in a a perfect position
  1607. 1:00:50for it to actually go in or she actually
  1608. 1:00:53just said, "You know what? Hang on it."
  1609. 1:00:55And she did that. I don't know. I don't
  1610. 1:00:58know. I don't know.
  1611. 1:01:00>> You're talking about within a couple
  1612. 1:01:02seconds.
  1613. 1:01:05>> Yeah.
  1614. 1:01:06>> Am I wrong on that?
  1615. 1:01:07>> Could be more than a couple seconds.
  1616. 1:01:09>> Tell me cuz you're saying you turn,
  1617. 1:01:11>> right?
  1618. 1:01:11>> Started pulling some more and then you
  1619. 1:01:13hear the crack. You turn around.
  1620. 1:01:15>> I turn around.
  1621. 1:01:16>> And it's in her already,
  1622. 1:01:17>> right?
  1623. 1:01:17>> How long does that take?
  1624. 1:01:19>> I don't know that that you're asking me
  1625. 1:01:21to guess.
  1626. 1:01:21>> Yeah,
  1627. 1:01:22>> I am asking you to guess.
  1628. 1:01:23>> Okay. I'm asking you to guess based off
  1629. 1:01:25of your experience
  1630. 1:01:27>> with this. I've never had experience
  1631. 1:01:29with this.
  1632. 1:01:29>> This was an experience, was it?
  1633. 1:01:30>> It was an experience, but that's an
  1634. 1:01:32inexperience. People's time perception
  1635. 1:01:34was way off.
  1636. 1:01:36>> So, what I might have been seconds,
  1637. 1:01:39could have been longer. What was longer?
  1638. 1:01:40>> Are you telling me that it was more than
  1639. 1:01:42>> I I really don't know. All I know is
  1640. 1:01:45what it felt like. What it felt like was
  1641. 1:01:47it was very quick. And my perception
  1642. 1:01:51was, hey, as I when I'm pulling her,
  1643. 1:01:53she's holding on to it. But when I turn
  1644. 1:01:55and pull, I hear the snap, I'm pulling,
  1645. 1:01:59it's already happened. By the time I
  1646. 1:02:02turn around, it's already happened. I I
  1647. 1:02:05I can't explain how it exactly went in.
  1648. 1:02:08I can't explain if she did it on
  1649. 1:02:10purpose, which is what she wanted to do.
  1650. 1:02:13I can't explain how it completely goes
  1651. 1:02:16from this. Is it on your phone where she
  1652. 1:02:18says she wants to kill herself?
  1653. 1:02:20>> Yes, it's on my phone.
  1654. 1:02:21>> And how long ago was that?
  1655. 1:02:23>> It's multiple times actually. I don't
  1656. 1:02:25know. Last one was uh I don't know, a
  1657. 1:02:28couple days ago.
  1658. 1:02:30>> That's on your phone.
  1659. 1:02:31>> That should be on my phone.
  1660. 1:02:33>> Okay.
  1661. 1:02:33>> Right.
  1662. 1:02:36It should be that she threatens me with
  1663. 1:02:39this situation
  1664. 1:02:41uh to happen, which is why I was trying
  1665. 1:02:44to look for a way out of it. so that
  1666. 1:02:46this would not happen. Um
  1667. 1:02:51should [ __ ] should I stay sleep?
  1668. 1:03:19I know you've been uh
  1669. 1:03:24you haven't eaten anything yet.
  1670. 1:03:26>> No, it's really I can't get that.
  1671. 1:03:28>> No.
  1672. 1:03:28>> No.
  1673. 1:03:28>> You got double bagels.
  1674. 1:03:30>> Just water and cheese.
  1675. 1:03:31>> Appreciate that though.
  1676. 1:03:33>> You want You want me to fill that up
  1677. 1:03:34with some more water?
  1678. 1:03:35>> Yeah.
  1679. 1:03:35>> All right. I'll be right back. Thanks.
  1680. 1:03:42Guys,
  1681. 1:03:49come. I just get on. He'll get Yeah,
  1682. 1:04:08I know.
  1683. 1:04:10>> So, there's one missing.
  1684. 1:04:13went in empty and that one broke.
  1685. 1:04:15>> This is the one that broke. So are you
  1686. 1:04:17showing me?
  1687. 1:04:18>> Yeah. I'm just showing you what this is
  1688. 1:04:21after. So she telling you this is from
  1689. 1:04:23here to here is two feet. So from here
  1690. 1:04:25to here is sticking out.
  1691. 1:04:27>> Mhm.
  1692. 1:04:27>> So as she's falling off, anything could
  1693. 1:04:30have happened. She could have I don't
  1694. 1:04:32know, maybe tipped over and went in. U
  1695. 1:04:36maybe she thrusted herself in. Here's
  1696. 1:04:39the
  1697. 1:04:41the door for the bathroom. Here's where
  1698. 1:04:44>> Here's where your dog is.
  1699. 1:04:47>> This is the No, that's the sheet that
  1700. 1:04:48that was taken off by rescue. Like you
  1701. 1:04:50said,
  1702. 1:04:53>> and this is exactly where this area was.
  1703. 1:04:55And
  1704. 1:04:55>> that's all her blood.
  1705. 1:04:58>> That's all her blood,
  1706. 1:04:59>> right?
  1707. 1:05:01>> I tried to get the pack to stop the
  1708. 1:05:04bleeding.
  1709. 1:05:07Do you have one of those? That's yours?
  1710. 1:05:09>> Yeah. Yeah, I do. Cuz I I I have in my
  1711. 1:05:13bathroom I have a med kit. So I try to
  1712. 1:05:16stop.
  1713. 1:05:17>> So you have a blue med kit like a Is it
  1714. 1:05:20about this big?
  1715. 1:05:20>> No, it's just a med kit that
  1716. 1:05:22>> Cuz that's that's something that we use.
  1717. 1:05:24That's
  1718. 1:05:25>> Yeah. to stop bleeding. Yes. Absolutely.
  1719. 1:05:28>> So that was you.
  1720. 1:05:30>> Yes.
  1721. 1:05:45Do you think I'm a pretty reasonable
  1722. 1:05:47person?
  1723. 1:05:47>> I'm sorry.
  1724. 1:05:48>> I think I'm a pretty reasonable person.
  1725. 1:05:50Like I, you know, I'm not one of these
  1726. 1:05:51guys that fly off the handle and try to
  1727. 1:05:54think everything through.
  1728. 1:05:56>> Okay. I would say so.
  1729. 1:05:58>> I'm having a very difficult time
  1730. 1:06:00believing what you're saying. I
  1731. 1:06:03understand.
  1732. 1:06:05That's what you're supposed to do.
  1733. 1:06:06>> Well,
  1734. 1:06:08>> no. Like I just said, I'm a reasonable
  1735. 1:06:09person. Okay.
  1736. 1:06:12>> I Well, no. I mean,
  1737. 1:06:14>> so you think what what are you
  1738. 1:06:15suggesting?
  1739. 1:06:16>> What you're saying here is about four 4
  1740. 1:06:19feet plus of the other foot.
  1741. 1:06:21>> So, you think I broke it, turned around
  1742. 1:06:23and did all that to it?
  1743. 1:06:25>> I don't know.
  1744. 1:06:26>> That's horrible, man.
  1745. 1:06:27>> That is horrible.
  1746. 1:06:27>> That is horrible. That's absolutely
  1747. 1:06:29horrible. Especially with someone like
  1748. 1:06:31this
  1749. 1:06:32>> that you've never even asked. How's she
  1750. 1:06:34doing?
  1751. 1:06:35>> I'm so scared to know, man. I I'm so
  1752. 1:06:38scared to know.
  1753. 1:06:39>> We've been here.
  1754. 1:06:40>> I'm so scared to know.
  1755. 1:06:42>> It's been over.
  1756. 1:06:43>> Is she all right?
  1757. 1:06:44>> It's a little late to ask me now.
  1758. 1:06:46>> No, I still kicked me. She just cracked
  1759. 1:06:48me. So, is she all right?
  1760. 1:06:50>> No, she's not.
  1761. 1:06:53She's passed over.
  1762. 1:06:59So
  1763. 1:07:01you guys called rescue at 1:56.
  1764. 1:07:05Okay.
  1765. 1:07:07They took her to the hospital and you
  1766. 1:07:09know after 2
  1767. 1:07:13you were with you were with officers.
  1768. 1:07:16Let's let's say from 2:30, right? And
  1769. 1:07:18it's already
  1770. 1:07:20after 12 now, right?
  1771. 1:07:23>> I can't believe this. So, we're going
  1772. 1:07:27on 10 hours
  1773. 1:07:31or about 10 hours kind of maybe say
  1774. 1:07:35what? Let's say uh nine and a half.
  1775. 1:07:40You have never asked how she's doing
  1776. 1:07:43>> cuz I've been praying my ass off, man.
  1777. 1:07:46I'm scared to even know. But that has
  1778. 1:07:48nothing to do with anything because
  1779. 1:07:50she's already been threatening with
  1780. 1:07:51being trying to kill herself. It's
  1781. 1:07:53trying to deal with that. I've been a
  1782. 1:07:56long-term friend.
  1783. 1:07:57>> You're saying you have this on your
  1784. 1:07:58phone, right?
  1785. 1:07:59>> Yeah, I have this on my phone.
  1786. 1:08:02>> Are you willing to give us the password
  1787. 1:08:03to your phone so that we can do this?
  1788. 1:08:05>> I don't have a lawyer, but if I do
  1789. 1:08:08that, my lawyer. Yeah, I will absolutely
  1790. 1:08:11show it to you, man.
  1791. 1:08:12>> Well, we'll do a search for it on your
  1792. 1:08:13phone.
  1793. 1:08:14>> Oh, no. You don't need it. Well, the
  1794. 1:08:15password will make it past her.
  1795. 1:08:19Not a lawyer cuz this now you're trying
  1796. 1:08:22to say I murdered her.
  1797. 1:08:23>> I'm not saying you murdered her.
  1798. 1:08:24>> Thank God.
  1799. 1:08:25>> Okay.
  1800. 1:08:26>> Thank God because she was acting this
  1801. 1:08:28way and this is by accident.
  1802. 1:08:30>> Accidents do happen. And I'm not saying
  1803. 1:08:32that they don't. Okay. But the way that
  1804. 1:08:35you're saying how things happen is is a
  1805. 1:08:37little hard to digest.
  1806. 1:08:39>> I was there and it's hard for me to
  1807. 1:08:41digest what happened. I don't know how
  1808. 1:08:43it got in her. I don't know how it
  1809. 1:08:45broke. All I could either suspect that
  1810. 1:08:47it
  1811. 1:08:48>> was actually a mistake or she actually
  1812. 1:08:50put it in her
  1813. 1:08:52>> which she's capable of.
  1814. 1:08:54>> So other those are the only theories I
  1815. 1:08:57have. But all I know is what I do know
  1816. 1:08:59is I wanted her out of the room because
  1817. 1:09:02she was harassing me for months and all
  1818. 1:09:05I've been doing and I even had to put
  1819. 1:09:07the door jam to stop her and she's been
  1820. 1:09:11bickering bickering coming in and I was
  1821. 1:09:13sleeping. I wasn't even bothering her.
  1822. 1:09:17So what happens when she's drunk?
  1823. 1:09:19>> What were you bickering at?
  1824. 1:09:21>> What?
  1825. 1:09:21>> What was she bickering about?
  1826. 1:09:23>> She gets angry. She's an angry person.
  1827. 1:09:25So she gets very angry. She's going
  1828. 1:09:28through something with her family.
  1829. 1:09:32She's going through something with her
  1830. 1:09:33family and it's really bothering her and
  1831. 1:09:35in her psyche. Her dad had killed
  1832. 1:09:37himself. She was very close to this type
  1833. 1:09:39of thing. um bickering about not being
  1834. 1:09:43heard or felt I mean
  1835. 1:09:47just talking you know trying to connect
  1836. 1:09:50and she turned violent a lot and it
  1837. 1:09:53would make me back off you know and that
  1838. 1:09:56backing off made more distance and so we
  1839. 1:09:59should bicker about that and so then she
  1840. 1:10:01would throw inuendos that she's going to
  1841. 1:10:05kill herself and then
  1842. 1:10:07>> you know blame me and And that's backs
  1843. 1:10:11me off, too. So,
  1844. 1:10:14yeah,
  1845. 1:10:16it's horrible.
  1846. 1:10:24So, weird.
  1847. 1:10:52I have to make sure I can pull off the
  1848. 1:10:54bed.
  1849. 1:11:00>> I got rights, too.
  1850. 1:11:02>> Don't I have rights, too, man? I just
  1851. 1:11:04wanted her to leave the room. She was
  1852. 1:11:06holding me, harassing me.
  1853. 1:11:26Wasn't
  1854. 1:11:38worth this. It wasn't worth this.
  1855. 1:11:40>> What do you mean?
  1856. 1:11:45Was it worth this?
  1857. 1:11:48>> Well, let me ask you what what do you
  1858. 1:11:50mean by that?
  1859. 1:11:50>> I'm sorry. I can't hit you up.
  1860. 1:11:54>> What were you When you say
  1861. 1:11:56>> it wasn't worth her fighting. It wasn't
  1862. 1:11:58worth her fighting. It wasn't worth I
  1863. 1:12:00wasn't mad. It was I was just going to
  1864. 1:12:02sleep cuz I knew she was going to
  1865. 1:12:04bathtub.
  1866. 1:12:08Just wanted to go to sleep.
  1867. 1:12:36That's
  1868. 1:12:40I had asked you before.
  1869. 1:12:44>> I mean, is there anywhere where we can
  1870. 1:12:45get phone numbers for her family?
  1871. 1:12:49All I know is WhatsApp.
  1872. 1:12:52>> That's on your phone.
  1873. 1:12:55>> Her mom was ignoring her.
  1874. 1:12:59>> She was trying to do it with her mom.
  1875. 1:13:15Can can can you kind of look at it from
  1876. 1:13:17our standpoint for a second?
  1877. 1:13:20>> I'm sorry. What?
  1878. 1:13:21>> I'm asking you to kind of
  1879. 1:13:24>> asking you to do something difficult
  1880. 1:13:25right now.
  1881. 1:13:26>> Sorry.
  1882. 1:13:27>> I'm asking you to do something a little
  1883. 1:13:28difficult right now. Think about
  1884. 1:13:31>> think about this from somebody outside
  1885. 1:13:34of your point of view. Okay.
  1886. 1:13:39Uh, again, I'm reasonable. Accidents
  1887. 1:13:43happen.
  1888. 1:13:44Things that are not meant to happen, but
  1889. 1:13:48end up happening.
  1890. 1:13:52And that's what this sounds like to us,
  1891. 1:13:56right?
  1892. 1:13:58It could be from multiple ways, but
  1893. 1:14:03you know, we're we're missing we feel
  1894. 1:14:06like we're missing some obviously
  1895. 1:14:09important parts here because you're
  1896. 1:14:11saying that you turned, right?
  1897. 1:14:14>> I turned my back trying to get
  1898. 1:14:16>> and then within that short period of
  1899. 1:14:19time,
  1900. 1:14:20>> broke, I heard a snap.
  1901. 1:14:22>> Right.
  1902. 1:14:22>> I don't know. And somehow this long
  1903. 1:14:25object
  1904. 1:14:25>> was in her
  1905. 1:14:26>> turned around
  1906. 1:14:28>> and entered her.
  1907. 1:14:29>> Well, in the momentum I mean it has to
  1908. 1:14:33go this way because that's and then had
  1909. 1:14:36a very
  1910. 1:14:38like almost 180° angle, 180° uh change
  1911. 1:14:43of direction, right?
  1912. 1:14:44>> Put it in her. Maybe she put it in her.
  1913. 1:14:47Maybe she tipped over and it came
  1914. 1:14:50direction.
  1915. 1:15:02I'm such a giant emotion.
  1916. 1:15:05>> The blade is
  1917. 1:15:08a good 4T up in the air away from her.
  1918. 1:15:11>> I know you could say that over and over,
  1919. 1:15:13but that's what I'm saying. is what
  1920. 1:15:15you're saying cuz remember if your hands
  1921. 1:15:17are here,
  1922. 1:15:18>> right?
  1923. 1:15:19>> They would had to come all the way up
  1924. 1:15:21here based on how how you're doing
  1925. 1:15:22things.
  1926. 1:15:23>> I mean, if you flip it around, you can
  1927. 1:15:25see if she's falling down, it could very
  1928. 1:15:29well go in the moment.
  1929. 1:15:30>> Not at that not at that not holding it
  1930. 1:15:32low like that.
  1931. 1:15:33>> If she But if she's holding on to it,
  1932. 1:15:35she could totally go in. Or maybe she
  1933. 1:15:37fell this to the side and it went in
  1934. 1:15:39that way. Maybe she did literally thrust
  1935. 1:15:42it in cuz she'd been trying to kill
  1936. 1:15:43herself.
  1937. 1:15:44>> You would have to grab near the top
  1938. 1:15:46>> because remember this the blade is up
  1939. 1:15:48here.
  1940. 1:15:48>> But if you grab down here, you have to
  1941. 1:15:51reach all the way out here to do that.
  1942. 1:15:55>> No. Right. That doesn't sound logical.
  1943. 1:15:57Look,
  1944. 1:15:58>> all I know is I wasn't looking and I
  1945. 1:16:00know she could have done it to herself.
  1946. 1:16:02She could have fell sideways. It could
  1947. 1:16:04have fell from a from a cracked fell
  1948. 1:16:06from a distance in as she's falling off.
  1949. 1:16:09>> It could have been your actions of when
  1950. 1:16:12you were pulling her off the bed that
  1951. 1:16:13caused the break when I pulled her body.
  1952. 1:16:16>> Is that fair? Say
  1953. 1:16:17>> if I pulled her off the bed and it
  1954. 1:16:19cracked. That's exactly what happened.
  1955. 1:16:22>> I pulled it off the bed and it cracked.
  1956. 1:16:25>> And it entered her body.
  1957. 1:16:26>> And it entered her body and I didn't see
  1958. 1:16:28how it entered or in what way.
  1959. 1:16:32All I know is when I saw it, I tried to
  1960. 1:16:36help. I tried to resuscitate her. I
  1961. 1:16:38tried to stop it bleeding. All I wanted
  1962. 1:16:41her was to get out my
  1963. 1:16:45She was not listening.
  1964. 1:16:50This is not worth it, man.
  1965. 1:16:53I'm I'm going to ask you to try to
  1966. 1:16:54remember something after afterwards.
  1967. 1:16:57>> You know what? After the police got
  1968. 1:16:59there. After the paramedics got there,
  1969. 1:17:04the the sheath.
  1970. 1:17:08>> Do you remember where it was? No.
  1971. 1:17:12>> It's a it's I don't expect you to
  1972. 1:17:14remember. I really wasn't expecting you
  1973. 1:17:15to remember it.
  1974. 1:17:16>> Okay. But it's just a question that I
  1975. 1:17:18have for myself.
  1976. 1:17:19>> Where was it?
  1977. 1:17:20>> Like was it moved from off? It was off
  1978. 1:17:24of the thing.
  1979. 1:17:24>> Of course it was off. We all know that
  1980. 1:17:26it was off. It's impossible for this to
  1981. 1:17:28be for us to be sitting here if it
  1982. 1:17:30wasn't. We know that
  1983. 1:17:31>> looking at it. I wasn't looking at it.
  1984. 1:17:33All I was focusing on her.
  1985. 1:17:34>> Of course.
  1986. 1:17:35>> Of course.
  1987. 1:17:39>> All I was focusing was on her. Freaking
  1988. 1:17:41out.
  1989. 1:17:55She actually
  1990. 1:18:04actually
  1991. 1:18:09special.
  1992. 1:18:18Like I said, all I know is she could
  1993. 1:18:21have dusted under her. She could have
  1994. 1:18:23fell in a different direction that I
  1995. 1:18:25wasn't looking.
  1996. 1:18:26>> Mhm.
  1997. 1:18:27>> That had a maybe already hit the floor
  1998. 1:18:30and then she hit the floor went in. I
  1999. 1:18:32have no problem. I really
  2000. 1:18:35>> I'm just saying that's not that's not a
  2001. 1:18:37good theory. Okay.
  2002. 1:18:38>> Yeah. Well, you know what? That's all
  2003. 1:18:40you got because honestly speaking, I
  2004. 1:18:42wasn't looking. I can't give you more.
  2005. 1:18:44All right. I know I didn't do anything.
  2006. 1:18:46All I know is I wanted her out of the
  2007. 1:18:47room. All I know is that I had no reason
  2008. 1:18:49to. All I know is that she's threatening
  2009. 1:18:51me with this very scenario. All I know
  2010. 1:18:53is that foring months, even when she
  2011. 1:18:56gets drunk, she gets crazy.
  2012. 1:18:59>> And that's why I was trying to avoid
  2013. 1:19:01her.
  2014. 1:19:02And she just kept coming back, coming
  2015. 1:19:04back, coming back.
  2016. 1:19:07I just wanted her to leave.
  2017. 1:19:09>> That's what I know.
  2018. 1:19:18So this is
  2019. 1:19:23It was fine.
  2020. 1:19:25Everything was fine.
  2021. 1:19:35You got anything else that you want to
  2022. 1:19:36say?
  2023. 1:19:37>> I'm sorry.
  2024. 1:19:38>> Do you have anything else that you want
  2025. 1:19:39to say?
  2026. 1:19:41>> I said my lawyer.
  2027. 1:19:45>> Well, I mean, we don't have to be done
  2028. 1:19:46if you don't want to be.
  2029. 1:19:48You think I did something I didn't do or
  2030. 1:19:50else there's
  2031. 1:19:51>> No, I'm verifying if you did anything or
  2032. 1:19:53not. What
  2033. 1:19:54>> if something happened to you?
  2034. 1:19:57>> I understand your point, which is why
  2035. 1:19:58I'm not angry at it. All right. I
  2036. 1:20:00understand. But I don't have the
  2037. 1:20:02information you're looking for because I
  2038. 1:20:04had my back to her and was pulling her
  2039. 1:20:07to go over there. I didn't realize until
  2040. 1:20:10you saw where her blood was.
  2041. 1:20:12>> Mhm.
  2042. 1:20:13>> Had anything happened at all?
  2043. 1:20:15>> I didn't realize anything had happened
  2044. 1:20:17at all. back to her physically.
  2045. 1:20:19>> Mhm.
  2046. 1:20:20>> Until until I turned around
  2047. 1:20:31>> based off of what I know. Okay.
  2048. 1:20:37This blade went through her sternum.
  2049. 1:20:40>> I'm sorry.
  2050. 1:20:40>> Went through her sternum. This blade
  2051. 1:20:42went through the sternum. Do you know
  2052. 1:20:44how much force must have been used for
  2053. 1:20:47that to happen?
  2054. 1:20:49>> Falling,
  2055. 1:20:50thrusting. It's the same thing.
  2056. 1:20:53>> Falling, fell off the bed, thrusters
  2057. 1:20:55herself, thrusted herself. There's no
  2058. 1:20:58reason for me to do anything. I'm trying
  2059. 1:20:59to get out of the room. There's no
  2060. 1:21:00reason.
  2061. 1:21:01>> Mhm.
  2062. 1:21:08>> Okay. Give me a call.
  2063. 1:21:11Do you want to look at this anymore?
  2064. 1:21:14I have to look at it.
  2065. 1:21:27All right, let's get walking out of
  2066. 1:21:30here. Okay.
  2067. 1:21:46Following the interrogation, Adam
  2068. 1:21:48Cresbow was formally charged in Broward
  2069. 1:21:50County with seconddegree murder in the
  2070. 1:21:51killing of Sylvia Galva. He maintained
  2071. 1:21:54that her death was the result of an
  2072. 1:21:55accident, but prosecutors moved forward
  2073. 1:21:58with a case built on physical evidence,
  2074. 1:22:00reconstruction, and his own statements
  2075. 1:22:02to investigators.
  2076. 1:22:04The case took years to reach trial. In
  2077. 1:22:07July 2025, jurors were shown the spear,
  2078. 1:22:11a reconstructed version of the bed, and
  2079. 1:22:13Cresbow's recorded interrogation.
  2080. 1:22:16Medical testimony established that the
  2081. 1:22:18wound traveled through the breastplate
  2082. 1:22:19toward the back and required significant
  2083. 1:22:22force. Evidence the state used to argue
  2084. 1:22:24the death was not accidental. On August
  2085. 1:22:2711th, 2025, the jury found Cresbow
  2086. 1:22:31guilty of seconddegree murder. After a
  2087. 1:22:33short deliberation, he was taken into
  2088. 1:22:35custody following the verdict. On
  2089. 1:22:37October 31st, 2025, a judge sentenced
  2090. 1:22:41Adam Crespbow to life in prison. He is
  2091. 1:22:44currently in custody at Martin
  2092. 1:22:45Correctional Institution in Indiantown,
  2093. 1:22:47Florida. If you found this video
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  2098. 1:22:57stories like this one. Thank you.

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