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0:00talked to Jennifer.
0:03I've pulled camera footage from around
0:05the area, and not all of your story adds
0:08up to what I already knew before we
0:10started talking.
0:16In June 2023, the Palm Beach County
0:19Sheriff's Office began investigating
0:21after the body of 51-year-old Terra Bes
0:24was [music] discovered wrapped in a
0:25blanket in a canal west of Delray Beach.
0:28Investigators [music] soon learned that
0:30in the days before her death, Tara had
0:33been staying temporarily at an apartment
0:35inside the King's Point Senior Living
0:37[music] Community. Christopher Sodto was
0:40staying at the apartment with his
0:41girlfriend, Jennifer. The apartment's
0:43tenant was Jennifer's grandmother,
0:44Jocelyn, who had allowed Tara to stay
0:47there for a few nights so she wouldn't
0:48have to sleep on the street. On the
0:50morning of [music] June 23rd, Jennifer
0:53saw Tara asleep on the couch while Sodto
0:55was asleep nearby in a recliner. [music]
0:58Sodto later drove Jennifer to work in
1:00her Ford Escape before returning to the
1:02apartment. [music] Tara was last seen
1:04there that morning and was expected to
1:06leave for the day. Hours later, [music]
1:08Sodto was supposed to pick Jennifer up
1:10from work, but he never arrived. After
1:12repeatedly trying to reach him, Jennifer
1:14[music] checked the location of her Ford
1:16through a vehicle tracking app and saw
1:18that it had been parked near a canal.
1:21When she eventually [music] returned
1:22home, she noticed a strong smell of
1:24bleach, wet flooring, a bloody shirt in
1:28the shower, and a missing bed sheet. 2
1:31days later, deputies recovered Terra's
1:33body from [music] a nearby canal.
1:35Detectives began reconstructing her
1:37final hours, focusing on what had
1:39happened at the apartment after Jennifer
1:40left for work. That investigation soon
1:43[music] brought them to Christopher
1:44Sodto. Now detectives sit down with him
1:47to find out what happened that morning.
1:49[music] This is the interrogation of
1:50Christopher Sodto.
1:53>> All right.
1:56So I was saying it's unlocked.
2:00I appreciate you voluntarily coming down
2:02here today. Jen, sorry I had you sitting
2:05there in the parking lot for a minute.
2:06No, never mind.
2:11All right.
2:14So, I'm sure you have a lot of questions
2:16for me, but before we begin, I want to
2:20make sure that we do this all properly.
2:39Got a card in there.
2:43Got additional one here.
2:46All right.
2:48So,
2:49I'm going to ask you
2:52if you understand all these rights after
2:53I read them. Okay. So, this is your
2:55grand warning. I'm required to warn you
2:57before you make any statement that you
2:59have the following constitutional
3:00rights. One, you have the right to
3:03remain silent and not answer any
3:04questions. What does that mean to you?
3:07>> That means that if I
3:11feel that there is a moment where I
3:13shouldn't speak or have no reason to
3:15speak, I will speak.
3:17>> Very good. Number two, any statement you
3:19make must be freely and voluntarily
3:21given. Of
3:22>> course.
3:23>> What does that mean to you? That means
3:25that it arises from my own wants and
3:29wills rather than from the wants and
3:31wills of someone else.
3:33>> It's a good answer. Number three, you
3:35have the right to the presence and
3:36representation of a lawyer of your
3:38choice before you make any statement and
3:40during any question. What does that mean
3:42to you?
3:43It means that
3:46uh I have my human right to
3:50what is it
3:53the to be defended as a human because
3:56that is my right or it's the fact that
4:03because you all have to deal with
4:06whether someone's guilty or not. I um
4:08everyone's innocent until proven guilty.
4:10So I have the rights to have someone who
4:12who would fight for?
4:13>> Yes.
4:15Number four. If you cannot afford a
4:17lawyer, you are entitled to the presence
4:18and representation of a courtappointed
4:20lawyer before you make any statement
4:22during any questioning. What does that
4:24mean to you?
4:25>> That means that I have the um ability to
4:29coordinate myself uh correctly with my
4:33lawyer when it comes to my position. If
4:36this were like a legal situation like
4:38suing or It doesn't necessarily seem
4:41like it is here, but
4:43>> well, the key part of that is if you
4:45can't afford one,
4:46>> one can be provided for you.
4:48>> Oh, it was.
4:49>> Yep.
4:51>> If at any time during the interview you
4:53do not wish to answer any questions, you
4:55are privileged to remain silent. What
4:57does that mean to you?
4:58>> That means that I can stay silent if I
5:03uh feel like staying silent.
5:05>> Very good. Number six, I can make no
5:07threats or promises to induce you to
5:09make a statement. This must be of your
5:11own free will.
5:13>> This last part makes me makes gives me
5:16the understanding that everything going
5:19on here is uh as just and as fair as
5:23possible because you as a police officer
5:25giving me my human rights and every
5:27opportunity I can as a person.
5:29>> Yes. And that I'm not offering you
5:32something for something else in
5:33exchange. Makes sense.
5:36Number seven, any statement can and
5:38excuse me, any statement can and can be
5:41and will be used against you in a court
5:43order.
5:45Make sense? Everything that I say can be
5:48on the record. Everything I say or do is
5:50on the record.
5:51>> Okay. Have a look here.
5:55Those are as I read them to you. You
5:57could sign and give me a date there.
5:59Yes.
6:06Today is the 30th
6:08and the time is 5:30.
6:11So 6:30 of 23
6:1423 time.
6:18All right, I'm just going to stick that
6:19right over there. Thank you for my pend.
6:22All right.
6:25So, I understand that you used to live
6:28over at the Kings Point
6:32community.
6:33>> Yes.
6:33>> What was the address that you stayed at?
6:35>> I stayed with uh my ex-girlfriend and
6:38her grandmother at
6:41>> Okay. What's your ex-girlfriend's name?
6:43>> Jennifer. Do you know her grandmother's
6:45name? Jos.
6:46>> Okay. About how long did you live with
6:48them?
6:53I want to say a little bit over
6:57a year and a half around that. A year
6:59and a half.
6:59>> Okay. And that's while you were dating
7:01Jennifer.
7:02>> I apologize. I would like to clarify.
7:04>> Okay. Go ahead.
7:13>> You're going to have some sponsor.
7:14>> Okay. And when you were living there,
7:17you and Jennifer were dating.
7:18>> Uh, not the whole time. On and off. on
7:20and off, but you still live there the
7:22whole time.
7:22>> For sure.
7:23>> Okay. Um, and you said ex-girlfriend.
7:25Did you
7:26>> Did you Apologize, she's actually my
7:27co-parents because we have a puppet.
7:31>> Okay. Okay. Um, you said ex though. Did
7:35you guys recently break up?
7:38>> Not recently.
7:39>> Okay. How long ago?
7:42>> Months. Months.
7:43>> Months ago. Okay. Um, do you still live
7:45there with them?
7:46>> No.
7:47>> Okay. When did you move? I'm I'm
7:50actually right now I've been ready to
7:53move for a month ago.
7:54>> Okay.
7:55>> But
7:56Jennifer needed me to stay in Albert
7:58with different stuff, so I'm moving
8:00right now.
8:01>> Okay. Um, are you currently staying with
8:03your parents?
8:04>> Right now, yes.
8:05>> What was their address again?
8:10>> That's in Coral Springs, right?
8:12>> Yes. Okay. Um, off the top of your head,
8:15do you remember Jennifer's phone number?
8:22Okay.
8:25Okay, that's not right. I think I
8:26remember her giving me that one number.
8:28Um, what was a good phone number for
8:29you?
8:31>> I don't I got I had a new phone number
8:34that I still haven't memorized.
8:36>> Okay. What was an old phone number that
8:38you had?
8:43>> Okay. Oh, before you go any further, can
8:45you raise your right hand for me? Of
8:47course. Do you swear everything that we
8:48have just spoken about and are going to
8:50speak about in the future is the truth,
8:52the whole truth?
8:53>> Of course.
8:54>> Can I get a yes or a no?
8:55>> Yes.
8:56>> Perfect. Um, so I understand that you
9:01had someone staying at the house last
9:02week when you were still living there.
9:04>> Yes.
9:05>> Who was that?
9:07>> This lady named
9:09>> Okay. Do you know her last name?
9:10[clears throat]
9:11>> How did you guys meet her or how did she
9:13end up staying with you guys? According
9:15to Jocelyn, Jennifer's grandmother,
9:17>> they met her through because they she
9:19lives she lived with her grandmother,
9:22her mother or she also lived in the
9:23community.
9:24>> Okay.
9:25>> And she needed a place to stay.
9:27>> Okay. Were you there when she asked for
9:30a place to stay or did you just come
9:32home and she was already there?
9:34>> Yeah.
9:34>> Okay. Actually, uh, at the time,
9:37Jennifer was hoping that I wouldn't be
9:38coming back to her grandmother's house
9:40and that I would have already moved out
9:42before,
9:44uh, I was done babysitting.
9:46>> Okay.
9:47>> But I cuz I was babysitting at another
9:48house for her.
9:49>> Mhm. [clears throat]
9:50>> And
9:52I couldn't get to my room that quick, so
9:56I had to wait a little longer, so I came
9:58back. And that's probably why they
10:00allowed someone to come in the house cuz
10:01they figured, well, we have space. So,
10:05>> okay. So, you mentioned that
10:08you were babysitting for her. She runs a
10:11animal service, right? So, she babysits
10:13different types of pets and you help her
10:15with that while their owners are out of
10:16town or just needing some help
10:18>> sometimes. Okay.
10:19>> Well, I used to.
10:20>> Used to. Um, have you done any jobs for
10:23her recently? other than that one which
10:26just happened uh like a week ago.
10:29>> Okay.
10:30>> This was this was all happening uh
10:35cuz I I don't remember the day. I know
10:37it was around a week ago,
10:38>> but I know that it's all happened um the
10:43day that
10:46the last time I know that the last time
10:48anybody saw her was the last time I saw
10:51her.
10:51>> You said her. Who were you referring to?
10:52>> Oh, Tom.
10:53>> Okay. Um, do you remember where you were
10:56housesitting or petsitting at?
10:59>> I was actually at a different house in
11:01So, you know how do you know Kings
11:02Point?
11:03>> Sure.
11:03>> Uh, Kings Point, there's one on Linton
11:05Boulevard.
11:06>> Mhm.
11:06>> And then, uh, when you go east,
11:10you go Oh, no. You go west on down
11:12Linton and then you go north uh on Jo
11:15Road and then you go east again, there
11:18will be like that pocket right there,
11:19that corner,
11:20>> that is where the other King's Points
11:22is. I wasn't there. Okay. Were you there
11:24for a couple of days or would you just
11:26let the dog out and put him back or a
11:28cat?
11:29>> Actually, was I there first?
11:33First I was at I was babysitting a dog.
11:37I don't remember where he's from King's
11:41Point. If you were to go from the Kings
11:44Point Deta originally on Linton,
11:46>> if you were to keep going east towards
11:48the beach, that's around the area that
11:50the dog that I was be sitting for a day
11:52or two at first and then I got moved by
11:56Jennifer to the one at King's Point
11:57where I was staying.
11:58>> Okay. So, is is it that you were staying
12:00there overnight or were you just going
12:02back and forth to take care of the
12:04animal?
12:07>> Back and forth. Okay. Back and forth. I
12:10wasn't sure because riders usually
12:13sometimes I riders I stayed older but
12:18Oh yeah I it was back and forth.
12:20>> Okay. Um you said that you were having
12:22trouble getting back to your room to
12:23move and gather your things and stuff.
12:25Um how did you make it back and forth to
12:27babysit these animals?
12:32Well, tech technically I'm saying back
12:35and forth because I am not aware if this
12:38is me being honest if Jennifer uh was
12:41supposed to have herself
12:45having someone else babysit for her,
12:47okay?
12:47>> Or if she was supposed to be staying
12:49over cuz sometimes she just uh she's
12:53supposed to go sometimes and sometimes
12:57she's not supposed to stay over. So, I
12:58wasn't sure what was going on there.
13:00>> Okay. Um, I was more interested in the
13:02transportation. Do you walk, ride a
13:03bike, drive a car?
13:05>> No, I walk.
13:06>> Okay. Do you ever use the Uber app or a
13:08lift app?
13:10>> Um,
13:14no. I don't really have money for that.
13:16>> Um, do you ever drive grandma's car? The
13:20Ford Escape?
13:23>> I Yeah, I dropped I dropped that. I
13:25dropped that a lot.
13:26>> Okay. When do you think the last time
13:27you used it was?
13:29>> That I'm not sure.
13:37I'm not sure.
13:38>> Okay.
13:40Do you remember using it last week at
13:42all?
13:44>> No.
13:45>> Okay. Um, so now let's move forward. So
13:49we have you come home, she's in your
13:51house.
13:52>> Will you guys have a conversation about
13:54her moving in or did you meet her? I met
13:57her.
13:57>> Tell me about it.
13:58>> Um, all I really knew at first when I
14:01met her, she was like shy and then I
14:04started talking to her and she was very
14:08energetic and
14:09>> she seemed happy and
14:13she didn't really know that I'd think
14:15about it tell me about her situation
14:18specifically other than how she felt
14:21about it.
14:22>> Okay. more so how she felt people were
14:26controlling over her and how she felt
14:28that God was not doing her any favors
14:32and she just wants to go out and live
14:33her own life and
14:35she mostly her emotional state not the
14:38uh literal state or the actual thing
14:40that's happening.
14:41>> Okay.
14:42>> Did you guys talk about anything else
14:44>> other than that? No.
14:46>> Okay. How would you describe your
14:48relationship with her?
14:52Friends, strangers.
14:54>> Oh, strangers for sure.
14:55>> Okay.
14:55>> Yes, strangers for sure.
14:56>> Over the couple days that she was there,
14:58would you still consider her a stranger
15:00or a friend or
15:02>> Okay.
15:03>> Hi.
15:03>> Can you describe the way she looked to
15:04me?
15:05>> She had uh poofy hair.
15:07>> What color?
15:08>> I think it was Jer.
15:10>> Okay. It's like a reddish brown.
15:12>> Yes.
15:13>> Okay. What else?
15:15>> She was uh wrinkly 50-year-old lady.
15:19Okay. About maybe up to my shoulders,
15:21maybe up to my ear.
15:22>> So, a little bit shorter than you?
15:23>> Yes.
15:24>> About how much did she weigh?
15:25>> I have no idea.
15:27>> She bigger or smaller than you?
15:29>> Smaller.
15:30>> Okay. And how much do you weigh?
15:34>> 60 70 lbs.
15:36>> Okay. So, smaller than 160.
15:38>> I'd probably say she weighed
15:42130.
15:43>> Okay. Was she messy or well-kept?
15:47>> Sorry for a second, but I had no idea.
15:48That That's okay.
15:50>> Um, what was the second?
15:52>> How would you describe her appearance?
15:55>> I wouldn't say she looked messy. I mean,
15:57>> okay. Did you mean did she wear like
15:58makeup, jewelry? Did she have her nails
16:00and toes done? Was her hair styled or
16:03was it just natural?
16:05>> I would assume since she's curly hair
16:07that her hair was uh styled.
16:09>> Okay.
16:11But other than that, I don't really
16:13think
16:15I remember much else other than that's
16:18probably why because she she didn't
16:19really have many accessories.
16:21>> Okay.
16:22>> When she was in the house, where did she
16:23stay or where did she sleep?
16:25>> She was sleeping on the couch.
16:27>> Okay. Where would she keep her things?
16:28>> She had her things next to her on the
16:30couch.
16:31>> Okay. What kind of things did she have
16:32with her?
16:33>> As far as I saw, she just had some bags
16:35for with her.
16:36>> What did the bags look like? She had a
16:38flower bag and I'm not sure what other
16:43bag she had.
16:44>> So like this flower bag, was it like a
16:46purse or was it like a grocery bag?
16:49>> Okay.
16:51Um,
16:52let's move on to about how many days do
16:55you think she was there?
16:57>> Before I got there,
17:00I think I was told she was there for
17:01like two, three days at most days.
17:06And then about how many days were you
17:08and her in the house together?
17:10>> Apologies. I was actually staying over
17:12at the place in case points.
17:14>> Okay.
17:14>> The night
17:15>> for the animal sitting job.
17:16>> Yes. Yes.
17:17>> Okay.
17:18>> Um I know you mentioned that you were
17:20planning on moving out of that of
17:23Jennifer and her grandmother's house.
17:24Did you have keys and stuff for that
17:26house?
17:27>> So, how would you come and go if you
17:29didn't have keys? Okay. So, when they
17:31were home, they would let you in and if
17:32they weren't, you had to find somewhere
17:33to be. I mean, we were more coordinated
17:36than that.
17:36>> Okay. But pretty much.
17:38>> Okay. So, they would leave the door
17:39unlocked for you if you were coming home
17:40soon. That type of deal. For sure.
17:43>> Okay.
17:44>> Um, what can you tell me about the last
17:46day that anybody saw?
17:49>> All I can say is that she seemed normal
17:52and happy and I don't want
17:58she just seemed normal and happy. just I
18:01wasn't it I I feel emotions rising
18:04because at first I
18:06I don't know I I thought everything was
18:09normal.
18:10>> A person sometimes just oh they said I
18:12don't we don't know where she is she is.
18:14I was like I don't know she's a grown
18:16woman and I was like oh she probably is
18:18just doing her own stuff
18:20>> right and
18:21>> she's 50 years old what I was thinking
18:24but now we're here and I don't really
18:26know. I mean, when she said she was
18:27leaving, I was like, "Okay,
18:30>> did you tell me what day that was
18:31again?"
18:31>> I don't No, I didn't tell you the day. I
18:33don't remember this day.
18:34>> Um, do you remember anything that you
18:36did that day that might help you
18:38remember when that was? I mean, do you
18:40remember eating something particular for
18:42breakfast and you went to Chick-fil-A or
18:44helping somebody out with something?
18:49Do you remember if it was a week day or
18:50a weekend?
19:04Okay.
19:04>> Uh, do you remember what maybe Jennifer
19:08or Joselyn had planned that day?
19:11>> That day
19:15took Joelyn to work.
19:21Oh, this is exact. Thank you. Thank you
19:23for We hope to remember him.
19:24>> Welcome.
19:25>> So, I was at the writers, right? I told
19:27>> Ryers, that's the dog's name
19:29>> by the beach. Yes. Apologies.
19:30>> Okay.
19:30>> The I was at the dog's house by the
19:32beach and I stayed there for a couple
19:36days.
19:36>> Mhm.
19:36>> And then I came She picked me up and she
19:39brought me to her grandmother's house
19:41momentarily. She wanted me to help take
19:43her grandmother to work. And then
19:45>> So, around What time is that? That was
19:48around 10 a.m. 9:00 a.m. Okay. She
19:53wanted me to take her grandma to work
19:54and then when I got back she was going
19:56to take me to the house.
19:58>> Okay. So you So she came and picked
20:01Jennifer picked you up at Ryder's house.
20:03>> Yes.
20:04>> And you came back to the house in Kings
20:06Point and then you took Joselyn where?
20:09>> I took Joselyn to her job and she works
20:12uh at
20:14I don't think it's called the Maris
20:17There's a place by the beach.
20:19>> Okay.
20:20>> And if you go all the way down by
20:23Deerfield Beach,
20:25you know where the
20:27I don't know how to explain. Well, I
20:29took her to work cuz she works by the
20:30beach.
20:30>> Mhm.
20:31>> And then I came back and I just had to
20:34wait for a time to drive to pick up
20:36Jennifer from her job because her and
20:38her grandma coordinate with the car.
20:40>> Okay.
20:40>> And since they have me, I can help move
20:43different people. So, I was gonna pick
20:44her up and when I picked her up, we were
20:45gonna go straight to King's Point.
20:47>> Okay. So, what does Joselyn do for work?
20:50>> She's a maintenance lady.
20:52>> Okay. So, when you took her there, what
20:56about the time? Was it early in the
20:58morning? Was it
21:00>> 10:30?
21:00>> Oh, about 10:30.
21:01>> About 10:30.
21:02>> Okay. So, you drop her off around 10:30.
21:04You come back to the house. What time
21:06were you supposed to pick up uh
21:09Jennifer?
21:09>> 12.
21:10>> 12. Where was Jennifer at?
21:12>> 12.
21:12>> Where did she go? Starbucks.
21:14>> Starbucks. Do you know which store?
21:16>> The Starbucks. So again, the Linton on
21:19Kings Point.
21:20>> Keep going west, you get to Military
21:23Trail
21:24>> and you go north and once you hit
21:26Atlantic Boulevard, uh on that
21:28intersection, you can find the Starbucks
21:31>> right on the corner there.
21:32>> Okay. Um so were there any issues when
21:36you dropped Jocelyn off and you came
21:38back to the house?
21:43No.
21:43>> Everything went fine.
21:44>> No.
21:45>> Okay. Um,
21:48when you got back to the house after
21:49dropping Well, when you picked Jos up,
21:51did you at all anywhere?
21:54>> When you after you dropped her off, you
21:56came back, was Jennifer home or was she
21:58already at work?
21:59>> Already at work.
22:00>> She was at work before I took Joan
22:02because I took Jennifer to work in the
22:04morning.
22:05>> Okay, so Jennifer was before Joson. Let
22:08me see if I got this right. Tell me if
22:10I'm wrong.
22:11Jennifer comes and picks you up at the
22:14house by the beach. She brings you back.
22:17I'm sorry. Does she go to work then?
22:19>> That's when we go to work.
22:20>> Okay. So, she gets dropped off at
22:22Starbucks by you. Then you drive. What
22:24is it? What is she driving?
22:26>> A I'm not good with cars. A blue sedan.
22:31No, not sedan. Minivan. No.
22:35>> Some type of SUV.
22:37>> Mini SUV.
22:38>> Mini SUV. Um, what what make was it? I
22:43don't know if it's Ford. Okay. I think I
22:46remember seeing something about Ford.
22:48So, you drive the car back and that's
22:51drop Jennifer off at Starbucks. You take
22:53the car back, pick Joselyn up, take her
22:56back to work. Where do you go after you
22:58drop Joselyn off?
23:00>> Back to the house.
23:02>> Okay. When you got there, was anyone
23:04else home?
23:04>> No. Well, other than the cats and just
23:06the cats.
23:07>> Okay. Um, I don't know if we went over
23:09this or not, but from what you were
23:11telling me, it's my understanding that
23:12it was Jennifer, Jocelyn, you, and then
23:16the pets. You have cats, and what else?
23:20>> Okay. And those are the only people and
23:22animals that live there. All right. Um,
23:25so when you get back, it's just the
23:26pets. What did you do to spend your time
23:29until you had to pick up Jennifer?
23:34I
23:34>> I think I might have taken a nap. Okay.
23:38Were you planning on moving soon? Did
23:40you get anything organized? Uh did you
23:43do anybody a favor? You know, clean up
23:45in the house or take the pets for a
23:46walk, anything like that?
23:48>> I did.
23:50I don't know how I could forget. I
23:54after I was going to work or going to go
23:57pick up cuz I had to pick up Jennifer at
23:5912:00
23:59>> cuz she has to go do her dog sitting and
24:02everything.
24:02>> Mhm. [clears throat] I had to go help
24:04someone who
24:06there was this guy who needed help with
24:08his car and he seemed like it was an
24:11emergency so I helped.
24:14>> How did you You said some guy. Do you
24:16know his name?
24:16>> Mhm.
24:17>> Can you describe what they look like?
24:19>> He was a Hispanic man.
24:20>> Okay. About how old?
24:22>> Maybe 40.
24:23>> About how tall? Way short. Short.
24:25>> Okay. Do you have any scars, marks,
24:26tattoos?
24:29He was skinny, but he had a clean face.
24:33Okay.
24:34>> And definitely
24:38had tattoos.
24:40And
24:40>> do you remember where
24:43is R?
24:44>> Do you remember what they look like?
24:46>> Not really.
24:47>> Was it a bunch or just one?
24:49>> Just a couple.
24:50>> Okay. But not like a full sleeve. Okay.
24:54Just a couple here and there and there's
24:56space in between and stuff.
25:05I don't know. I don't know if it was
25:08looking if it was a space or if it was
25:09like I wasn't sure if it was like a
25:10patch part of the arts or if it was
25:11space.
25:12>> Okay. If you saw him again, would you
25:14recognize him?
25:15>> For sure.
25:16>> Okay. What kind of car did he have?
25:19>> He had like a Honda.
25:21>> Do you remember the color?
25:22>> It was white.
25:23>> Okay. What was the issue with his car?
25:28He just needed help. He couldn't He
25:30couldn't move the car on his own. So, I
25:32needed to help him move the car. And
25:34then when I helped him move the car, he
25:39he told me he was in a hurry. So, that
25:41was really the only reason why I needed
25:42to help.
25:43>> Okay. Cuz he was like, "Okay, I can't go
25:46from here." But if I was in a hurry, I
25:49could always just wait, call somebody.
25:51But he was in a hurry. So,
25:52>> Okay. So, you mentioned that you helped
25:55a guy out, but how did you end up coming
25:57in contact with him?
26:00>> I uh I was driving to go get Jennifer
26:04and then I saw him. He was just on the
26:07>> Okay. So, you already driving?
26:08>> Oh, yes. Yes. Yes.
26:09>> Was he on the side of the road?
26:10>> He was on the side.
26:11>> Do you remember which road?
26:13>> He It was a military truck.
26:15>> Okay. Which direction? Like north,
26:17south?
26:17>> I was heading north towards the
26:19Starbucks.
26:19>> Okay. Uh when you come off of King's
26:21Points and you start going down and I
26:24was going to go towards the Starbucks.
26:26>> Okay. Can you describe the path that you
26:27normally drive to get to Starbucks?
26:29>> Yes. I get out. So you have to go south.
26:33>> Let's start at the um at the apartment,
26:35right?
26:36>> Okay.
26:36>> You go south Burgundy N.
26:38>> Mhm.
26:39>> You make a left to go out of the gate to
26:44exit on Sims Road.
26:46>> Okay. And then you keep going south a
26:48little bit until you hit the
26:50intersection like to make a left on Lon.
26:52>> Mhm.
26:52>> And then you keep going left and then or
26:55you keep going east and then once you
26:57hit the intersection you go north.
26:59>> Okay.
26:59>> To go up Military Trail and then once I
27:02was heading up Military Trail, that's
27:04where I fell.
27:06>> Okay. Now,
27:09you said you helped him move the car.
27:11Did you push it? Did you use your car to
27:13push it? Did you help him out with some
27:14tools?
27:15>> Oh, no. I drove for him.
27:18>> Okay. So, what did he do while you were
27:21driving his car?
27:22>> He was sick.
27:24>> You So, he was pulled over on the side
27:26of the road and he asked you to drive
27:29his car for him.
27:31>> And then
27:32>> that's unusual.
27:34>> Yeah.
27:34>> Was he drunk?
27:35>> No, he was hurt.
27:36>> He was hurt. Okay. What kind of injury
27:38did he have?
27:39>> Seemed to be a
27:43a leg injury. Did he tell you how he
27:45hurt his leg?
27:48>> He didn't tell me much. He just told me
27:50he needed help.
27:52>> Okay. Where did you take him?
27:53>> To his house.
27:55>> Do you remember the neighborhood? I know
27:56it's hard to ask for an address, but
27:58just the general area.
27:59>> It was up north, more north of Delray
28:02Beach.
28:03>> Okay. But how long did that take you to
28:04get there?
28:05>> It took me a while. It was like 30
28:07minutes.
28:08>> Just one way?
28:10>> Yeah.
28:10>> Okay. Uh, do you remember if you took
28:12the highway or a toll road or anything
28:14like that?
28:16I did not. Okay. So, all all on the
28:19trail, all northbound out of Delray.
28:22Okay. How did you get back to the car?
28:28He drove me.
28:31>> Okay. Um, he had someone drive me.
28:33Excuse me. He had someone drive me.
28:35>> Okay. So, you drove him to where he was.
28:37Was there someone else at the house?
28:41I'm just trying to figure out where the
28:42other person that drove you came from.
28:44>> I don't remember if she lived there, but
28:46she was there.
28:46>> So, it was a lady.
28:47>> Yes.
28:48>> Was it his wife, girlfriend?
28:49>> Probably his wife.
28:50>> Okay. Um, did he ever tell you how he
28:53hurt his leg?
28:56>> Um, did it look like he needed to go to
28:57the hospital or anything?
29:01>> Yes.
29:01>> Was it bleeding a lot?
29:04>> Yes.
29:04>> Okay.
29:06Did you call ambulance for him or
29:08anything?
29:09He said he he had to take care.
29:12>> Okay. So,
29:15you get back to
29:17the uh the blue SUV. What happens after
29:20that?
29:21>> I go get Jennifer really late.
29:23>> Okay. About what time?
29:26>> I don't remember. It was It was like an
29:28hour maybe that it took. So, I don't
29:30know how long.
29:31>> Okay. So, if you were heading to pick
29:34her up for noon, about what time did you
29:36leave your apartment? I would say I got
29:39I left around before 12 because I had to
29:42be there at 12:00. So, I left around
29:4411:50.
29:45>> Okay. Cuz it's about a 10-minute drive
29:47there. 30 minutes up, 30 minutes back,
29:49plus or minus a little bit. So, you were
29:51about an hour late,
29:53>> maybe an hour 30.
29:54>> Okay. Hour and a half.
29:56>> Um,
29:57when you were helping this man, did you
29:59ever tell anybody that you were helping
30:00them or that you were going to be
30:02running late?
30:08No, because my phone's touched.
30:09>> Okay.
30:10>> Like the the battery
30:13does it does it normally have service?
30:15>> I don't even have service. No. But
30:17>> Okay. How do you how do you use it?
30:19>> Just Oh, sometimes uh when the data is
30:23like being a certain way or sometimes
30:25when I have free Wi-Fi, it sense. So, I
30:27just try.
30:28>> Okay. What do you mean by the data being
30:30a certain way?
30:31>> Cuz I thought when you have no service,
30:33you can't send or receive an iMessage.
30:35>> Okay. But I receive FaceTime calls and
30:37stuff and it's like the iMessage is
30:39weird. So I don't know.
30:40>> Do you use the FaceTime app on your
30:43phone?
30:44>> No, I just go through my the phone app,
30:46but I do press FaceTime audio to make
30:49that's the only way.
30:50>> Okay. But it's not it's not like
30:52Facebook Messenger or WhatsApp. It's
30:54just the FaceTime audio.
30:56>> Okay. That's a cool trick. I've never
30:58>> I suppose it's like a backup when you
31:00lose service. It's the only thing you
31:01can do with your data. I didn't know I
31:03had that on my plan.
31:04>> Okay. Okay. So, you still have a plan?
31:06>> Yes.
31:07>> Okay. Um, so if you have a plan but you
31:10don't have service, how does that work?
31:11>> I haven't paid the part of my phone
31:13that's on I don't I really don't know
31:15how that works actually. I don't know.
31:16>> Okay. Um, who you have a service
31:18through?
31:19>> Right now I have it with my family.
31:20>> But is it through like AT&T, Sprint,
31:22T-Mobile?
31:23>> AT&T.
31:24>> AT&T. Okay. Um, do you know who the
31:27plan's under? Like your mom or your dad?
31:29>> My father.
31:30>> Okay. Um,
31:33so when you go pick Jennifer up, how did
31:35she react to you being late? I can't
31:37imagine she was happy. I don't know. She
31:39said I lost her $5,000.
31:42>> Yeah.
31:42>> Do you think she was exaggerating?
31:44>> She does, but I have no to be asking
31:48something like that.
31:49>> I was just curious. I didn't know how
31:51she would be, you know, what would cause
31:53her to lose $5,000 in an hour.
31:56>> Good question. No. Oh, look. That's what
31:58it is. is because it sorry for my lack
32:01of trust in her. It's it's because
32:04sometimes if she has already set uh oh
32:07I'm gonna babysit your dog for a week.
32:09>> Okay.
32:09>> So they pay her ahead of time.
32:12>> Gotcha. That makes sense. That makes
32:14more sense. Um so where'd you pick her
32:17up at?
32:20>> When I got back she was What was she?
32:22Can I pick her up or did she get No, she
32:24when I got back she she wasn't at the
32:26house. She came to the house.
32:30Okay. So,
32:33the other lady drives you back to the
32:35blue SUV.
32:37>> You don't go pick Jennifer up because
32:39she's already at the house
32:40>> because I don't find her there and I
32:42figure
32:42>> So, you went to Starbucks. She's not
32:44there. Did you use the Wi-Fi there to
32:46communicate with her and ask her where
32:47she is?
32:48>> Mhm. My phone [clears throat] was still
32:49dead.
32:50>> Okay. So, where did you go from there?
32:52From there, I went back to the house and
32:54she wasn't there, but she got there. So,
32:57I don't know if she walked or not.
33:00>> Okay. When you got to the house and you
33:01said Jennifer wasn't there, was anyone
33:02else there?
33:04>> No.
33:05>> Okay. Not Jocelyn. Nobody. Just pets.
33:08>> Just pets.
33:09>> Okay. So, what happens next?
33:11>> Um,
33:13Jennifer takes me to my job at the
33:17King's Post place.
33:18>> Okay. Did she tell you that she was mad
33:20at you or anything like that? That's for
33:21sure. What kind of things did she say?
33:24She was like,
33:28she talks about a lot because movie and
33:30her have a lot of history and she was
33:32going saying a lot of stuff about I'm so
33:34responsible and how I never I can never
33:37she can never rely on me and how I'm so
33:42I'm when am I going to change? When am I
33:45going to do better? When
33:47>> Okay. Yeah.
33:50>> Anything else?
33:51I suppose she got personal with me like
33:56cuz she was talking about how I lied to
33:58her before I lost our relationship. And
34:03>> so was she expressing that your story
34:06about the helping the guy out with the
34:08his vehicle was a little weird? I to me
34:10I was like Jennifer
34:13at first I was like okay because I was
34:15trying to receive it but then I started
34:17I at one point I was like Jennifer I
34:19hear you but at the end of the day
34:22it's hard for me to speak in my position
34:25because I know who I am and what I did
34:27just now.
34:28>> Mhm.
34:28>> But you still have to try to be able to
34:30imagine that if someone else is in need
34:34you can't just only stay mad at me like
34:36this.
34:37>> Okay. And it's like it's not even that
34:39she can't only say mad because she can
34:41be mad right now and keep her her mood
34:43for as long as she needs. But if she's
34:46not going to even like express that she
34:48has that part of herself that is like
34:51understanding of what happened.
34:52>> Okay,
34:53>> that that's that's that's my problem. I
34:55should have I should have just
34:56understood how to just
34:59>> listen to her because at the end of the
35:00day she if I if I thought about it, she
35:03obviously understands that
35:05>> she's just upset because of everything.
35:07Okay. So, remind me again where you took
35:09her to.
35:10>> I took her.
35:14>> Wait, I didn't take her.
35:16>> So, you said that you came home.
35:20>> She came back to the house. What
35:22happened after that?
35:22>> She took me to King Point.
35:24>> So, she she took you to the other King's
35:26Point.
35:26>> Okay. Um,
35:30what happened after that?
35:32>> Nothing. just everything that I've heard
35:35about what's going on with this
35:37situation and
35:39that's all.
35:40>> Okay. Did you hear about that at the
35:42other address? Did you and Jennifer talk
35:44about it?
35:44>> Yeah.
35:44>> Okay. What' she tell you?
35:46>> At first, like I said, she was like,
35:50I don't I am not sure what she is. I
35:55>> Then
35:57days went by and they were talking more
36:00about what was going on. That's why I
36:02started getting worried.
36:03>> What made you worried?
36:06>> I don't know. I mean, like I said, at
36:08first I thought she was fine because she
36:10had herself taken care of and she knew
36:12what she needed to do.
36:13>> Mhm. [clears throat]
36:14>> But at the same time, I was worried
36:16because I don't know her and I don't
36:20know what is going on and I hope she's
36:23okay, but at the same time it's like I
36:25hope I hope Jennifer is okay. We don't
36:28know her. Like I mean I just hope
36:32everyone's okay. So many thoughts arise
36:34in my head and I'm just I was just
36:36starting to get really worried for a
36:37person because
36:40I just I can't imagine what it's like to
36:43experience missing somebody.
36:45>> Yeah, it must be hard.
36:48>> So she drops you off. Do you stay the
36:50night there or does she pick you up
36:52later?
36:52>> I stay the night for
36:55almost a week.
36:56>> Okay. So about what day do you come
36:59back?
37:06>> Monday. A Monday.
37:08>> So you came back on a Monday?
37:16>> Yes. Okay. Um
37:20when you came back home, were they still
37:22asking?
37:23>> Oh, for sure. Okay. What kind of things
37:25were they asking you?
37:28Jennifer was
37:30Jennifer was doing up first. Uh Josyn
37:33was talking to me about
37:35what could be going on with this lady
37:37like who knows who she is. Hopefully
37:39she's not someone that we can't trust
37:41that might you know get something
37:43involved because we were talking about
37:45she did kind of seem a little like
37:48I don't know we didn't know her so it's
37:50just skepticism but with Jennifer she
37:52was really getting on my case because at
37:55the end of the day to her she knows how
37:57much she trusts me as a person
37:58emotionally
37:59>> and she she would already in her up here
38:02because she she already knew in her mind
38:05like what it is that the situation could
38:08be and she worried a lot quicker. So,
38:10>> okay.
38:11>> But she was just what was she worried
38:13that the situation was?
38:15>> She was just making sure that I I I
38:18don't know that wouldn't I wouldn't lie.
38:20That's all because I've taken weed from
38:22her. So,
38:23>> okay.
38:24>> When this all was going on as well, she
38:27was missing some of her weed from her
38:28house.
38:29>> Okay.
38:29>> And she was missing uh her grandmother's
38:33pipe.
38:34>> Okay.
38:34>> So, I was just she was like
38:39I don't I don't know. Maybe she was like
38:41maybe I had something to do like maybe
38:43this girl isn't a good person at all and
38:45maybe I don't know. Like she she just
38:47wanted to I guess cover all bases. So
38:49she was checking to see what I knew
38:51because she was worried.
38:52>> Okay. Was she missing anything else?
38:57>> Missing
38:57>> money clothes. So you said the we
38:59>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't really I
39:02um I don't really remember what
39:05Okay.
39:07So, at what point did you end up moving
39:10out of that house?
39:13>> Tuesday.
39:14>> Tuesday. So, you came back Monday and
39:16you moved out Tuesday.
39:17>> Tuesday went to my family. Yes.
39:19>> Okay. Um, did you have a lot of stuff
39:21there or just a bag, suitcase, clothes?
39:24Did you have any furniture?
39:25>> Just a a suitcase.
39:27>> Mhm.
39:28>> And a trash bag with some dirty clothes.
39:30>> Okay.
39:31>> And a backpack.
39:32>> What kind of backpack?
39:33>> An Adidas backpack.
39:34>> What color is it? Cream.
39:36>> Cream cover. Okay. Um, how did you get
39:39from Jennifer and Joson's house to your
39:42parents house?
39:42>> My father picked you up.
39:43>> He picked you up. What did he pick you
39:44up in?
39:45>> He drives I don't Did you remember you
39:48came to the house the other day?
39:49>> Is the same truck that he drove you here
39:50with today?
39:51>> That's what he didn't pick me up that
39:52day with.
39:53>> Okay.
39:53>> He picked me up with a gray SUV.
39:56>> Okay.
39:57>> Did you see it there when you come back?
39:58>> I don't remember a gray SUV.
40:00>> No.
40:01>> Is that your mom's car?
40:02>> Yes.
40:02>> Okay. Yeah. I know she's got a bad leg.
40:05Um,
40:07so
40:09since you've moved, have you had any
40:11contact with Jennifer?
40:12>> No.
40:13>> Okay. Is that cuz your phone's dead or
40:15cuz you guys broke up?
40:16>> We don't talk. She doesn't talk.
40:18>> Okay.
40:19Um, again, I'm going to bring you back
40:23to the point where you just dropped off
40:25grandma at work and you come back to the
40:27house and you're waiting to go pick up
40:31I'm sorry. You're gonna wait to go pick
40:32up Jennifer from work.
40:35What did you do before you found the guy
40:36that needed help?
40:40I was just
40:46I was just waiting.
40:48>> Okay. Did you watch a movie? Did you
40:50make any phone calls?
40:51>> I I don't know how if I napped the whole
40:54time. I think I was napping for most of
40:56the time, but I was just watching TV.
40:59>> Okay. Um I remember you saying that you
41:01didn't see at all that day.
41:03No.
41:04>> Is that not true?
41:05>> No, no, no. That day I saw her because
41:07uh the day that I got there.
41:08>> Mhm.
41:10>> I was the first time I met her.
41:12>> Okay.
41:13>> And she was there a couple like two days
41:15I think at most three, but I do think
41:17it's two. And
41:21uh that was in the morning after
41:24Jennifer got dropped at her job. I drove
41:25back to Jawson's. I walked in and or I
41:28knocked. I walked in there.
41:31>> Okay. How was she?
41:35>> She was in the room. She was not in the
41:37couch, but she was actually in Jennifer.
41:39>> Okay. What was she doing at night? Was
41:41that normal?
41:42>> No, but that's where she was.
41:44>> Did you guys talk about why she was in
41:45the room?
41:49>> No, but she was just walking. We were
41:51just being honestly, like I said, at the
41:54at the most with her, we had like some
41:56skepticism just because I don't know
41:58like we don't know who she is. But
41:59>> Okay. I mean, I don't
42:03Everything was normal.
42:04>> Have you ever Have you ever seen her in
42:07Jennifer's room without Jennifer before?
42:08>> Well, I've I've only saw her in that
42:11moment because So, when uh uh I'll clear
42:14this this day up for you.
42:16>> Okay.
42:17>> Uh so, in the beginning, I wake up at
42:20Ryers and at the dog's house by the
42:21beach
42:22>> and I get picked up by Jennifer and
42:24Jennifer takes me to Joel's house.
42:27>> Mhm. rather to Starbucks and then I go
42:29back to Jocelyn's house.
42:31>> I go back to Josyn's house around
42:368:00 7:30 8
42:38>> in the morning.
42:39>> In the morning.
42:39>> Okay.
42:40>> And I walk in
42:43laying down uh in the room. And which
42:46room again?
42:47>> Jennifer's room.
42:49>> I don't want to interrupt you for too
42:50long. Uh when you were living there,
42:52what room did you stay in?
42:53>> Ch.
42:54>> Okay. So, it's your room, too?
42:56>> I call it Jennifer's room. Okay. But
42:58that's where you keep all your stuff.
42:59>> Yes.
42:59>> It's where you sleep at night when
43:00you're there.
43:01>> Yes.
43:02>> Okay. Did you find it unusual that she
43:03was in both of your rooms?
43:08>> Well, I I was alarmed. Yes. I was like
43:11>> I was like, who's that?
43:13>> Okay.
43:13>> But as soon as that happened, as soon as
43:15Josh opened the door and I saw her, John
43:17explained to me what was going on.
43:18>> Okay. All right. So, we're back to that
43:21day. You came home after dropping off
43:24grandma. I'm sorry. I have to drop it
43:26off Jennifer. Nope. I was right. You
43:29drop off. You're back at the house.
43:32No. Uh, I
43:36go to Jo's house after I drop off
43:39Jennifer or after she drops herself off
43:41at Starbucks.
43:42>> Mhm.
43:43>> And then I'm there in the morning
43:46the house actually for a good
43:50>> hour. And so I have to take Jocelyn to
43:52her job at 9.
43:53>> Yeah. and then or two and then
43:57>> nine or two
43:58>> or no I'm saying uh
44:00>> two to the job.
44:02>> No, two hours I was there.
44:04>> Okay, I got you.
44:05>> I got so you dropped her off. You come
44:07back
44:08>> and then uh I come back and
44:13>> I thought you said she was sleeping in
44:14the bed.
44:15>> No.
44:16>> Did I say that?
44:16>> I thought so. I'm I'm clarifying.
44:18>> No, no. Clarify. Spill it out for me so
44:20I can understand exactly what you're
44:22telling me.
44:25I got there and
44:27she wasn't there. The only time I got
44:29there and she was there was when I first
44:31got there in the morning when I first
44:32met her
44:33>> before I took Joselyn. But when I was
44:35taking Joselyn, she was she already left
44:38like minutes before she was already
44:39getting ready to leave cuz she told me
44:41and Jocelyn, she was ready. Okay.
44:43>> Where was she going to go?
44:44>> I think she said she was just going to
44:46go walk her dog.
44:47>> Okay. Well, that's what she told
44:49Jocelyn. Did she take her stuff with
44:50her?
44:51>> Don't remember. Okay.
44:53But
44:57when
44:59I got back from dropping off Jocelyn,
45:02she was in there. Okay. So, it was just
45:05me in the house for a couple hours until
45:07I was about to go pick up Jennifer, but
45:09then the whole thing happened. Jennifer
45:11got mad and then I got taken to uh I
45:17pick up Jennifer and then I get taken
45:19into King's Point.
45:20>> Okay. And in the time when you were home
45:22alone, all you did was watch TV and take
45:25a nap.
45:26>> But I just remembered when
45:29I took long and me and Jennifer ended up
45:32encountering each other because she came
45:33to the house and I was getting ready to
45:36cuz I needed to charge my phone to see
45:37where she was. I didn't know where she
45:38was. So I was waiting and she got there.
45:41And when she got there, we stayed there
45:44for a little cuz she was arguing,
45:46arguing, arguing, screaming and
45:47screaming.
45:48And then she's okay. Is this inside or
45:51outside of the apartment?
45:51>> Inside the apartment.
45:52>> Okay.
45:53>> Well, also no, inside the apartment.
45:55>> Inside.
45:56>> A little bit outside, a little bit
45:57inside or just all inside?
45:59>> Probably while she was taking me to
46:00work. Yeah.
46:01>> Okay.
46:02>> But other than that, that's all the time
46:04I had in the house at the time. And that
46:06was the only time I
46:08>> Okay. So, it was
46:10the morning when you came back by
46:13yourself,
46:15charged the phone. No, I'm sorry. That
46:18was you left, helped the man,
46:22came back to the house to charge the
46:23phone to figure out where Jennifer was,
46:27and that's where you encountered her.
46:30I'm tracking down. I'm making sense. Um,
46:33so I have a picture for you.
46:38Probably should have led with this one.
46:48Who is this?
46:52I do believe that is
46:55I haven't seen her smile or her profile
46:57from straightforward.
46:58>> Mhm.
46:59>> But I do believe that.
47:01>> Okay.
47:02Do me a favor.
47:04Since you were able to recognize the
47:06person, can you just give me an initial
47:07on the piece of paper somewhere? Of
47:08>> course.
47:10We can use this.
47:13Would
47:15you add the date for me?
47:24Just going to leave that right there.
47:28So after
47:31you get dropped back off at work, you
47:33come back on Tuesday. Or was it Monday?
47:36>> Monday.
47:36>> Came back on Monday. You stayed the
47:38night.
47:38>> Yes.
47:39>> Packed your things for Tuesday morning.
47:42About what time did your dad pick you
47:43up?
47:47>> Afternoon. Afternoon.
47:49>> Okay. And since you've left King's
47:52Point, you haven't heard or anywhere.
47:55Okay. That morning, do you remember what
47:57she was wearing?
48:01Okay. Um, when you met her, do you
48:03remember any of the clothing that she
48:04had? [clears throat]
48:06>> Okay.
48:08If this, by the way, her hair, when I
48:12saw her, she like looked like a
48:15traditionally
48:16poofy
48:18>> curly hair.
48:19>> Yeah. Uh people, you know, their hair
48:21changes sometimes. If you saw me a year
48:23ago, I didn't have the same haircut. I'm
48:25sure you get different haircuts for
48:27sure.
48:28>> As you get as you get older, you know,
48:29some people dye their hair, cover up
48:31gray hair. Sometimes they just change
48:33the entire color. You know, those type
48:35of things change. Um,
48:39so
48:43did you wearing
48:47this shirt?
48:50>> Yeah, that's actually the shirt that I
48:52remember her in that you talk about.
48:54>> Okay. When was she wearing it?
48:56>> The day that I saw her.
48:58>> Okay. So, we have
49:04She's no longer a missing person.
49:06But she is deceased. This was the shirt
49:09she was wearing when we found her.
49:24>> I know. It's a lot to lay on you all at
49:25one time.
49:40So, I know we've talked about a lot of
49:42things today, and you have to know that
49:45you're not the first person I've spoken
49:47to about this, okay? talked to Jocelyn,
49:53talked to Jennifer,
49:56pulled camera footage from around the
49:58area, and not all of your story adds up
50:02to what I already knew before we started
50:03talking.
50:04>> What was that?
50:09>> This interview is very important that
50:11you're completely honest with me. We're
50:13telling the truth, of
50:14>> course.
50:14>> Okay. So, think back about what we've
50:17spoken about, of course. And if you're
50:18leaving anything out,
50:20>> okay, I I know what I I can imagine what
50:23you're asking right now, stupid, but
50:26>> I promise you I did not murder her.
50:32>> Or
50:34even even
50:37uh what's the word? Hurts her. I promise
50:39you that that's
50:43I retract everything I just said. I
50:46would like to clear up exactly what I
50:47just said.
50:48>> Okay.
50:49I
50:53did not hurt.
50:59I did not hurt. Good.
51:06So,
51:08for her to be found, I I don't
51:12I don't know. I mean, right now I can
51:13imagine you're asking me and you're
51:15looking at me and you're
51:21I don't know.
51:48you do. Okay. I'm I'm I'm worried
51:51because I just don't
52:01It just seems so
52:29So,
52:33we know
52:35that's probably unlikely there was a man
52:38in a white car that had an injury to his
52:40leg.
52:43Okay.
52:47Is that true?
52:49Um what what you said that there's no
52:51pain. That is 100% not true because
52:55there wasn't.
53:10>> Do you recognize this blanket?
53:14That is the blanket that is on that was
53:17on Jennifer's bed when that's her that's
53:20the blanket we use at almost every
53:21night.
53:22>> Okay.
53:23>> This blanket.
53:24>> Yes.
53:26Wrapped up in
53:35>> Are you aware
53:37how DNA works?
53:39>> Yes.
53:39>> Each person has a unique profile.
53:44We have a sample of her DNA.
53:47We compared it to blood that we found
53:50inside of the apartment you lived in.
53:54It's her blood.
53:56Do you have any idea how that happened?
54:00Okay.
54:04DNA was also found inside the vehicle
54:08that you drive
54:10the Ford Escape.
54:13Do you know how that got there?
54:16I don't
54:18No idea.
54:26Do you know the gate King's Point?
54:29>> Yes.
54:30>> Has cameras. It records when vehicles go
54:32in and out.
54:35So, right now it sounds like you're
54:38trying to tell me that it seemed and I
54:40like from what I see I don't see like
54:47I promise you I didn't I didn't I didn't
54:50hurt her, right?
54:54Nor nor did I nor did I
55:04I don't know what supposed to say
55:05because I clearly am a a suspect now and
55:12I don't know. I'm scared because I've
55:15seen so many setup situations in life
55:17and I just don't know what to do right
55:18now because it just wants her to be
55:20okay. Unfortunately, she's not going to
55:23be okay. She was killed. She didn't die.
55:26She didn't overdo. She didn't commit.
55:28Someone stabbed her to death.
55:36She was stabbed in the heart four times.
55:43>> Do you have any idea how that happened?
55:46>> Yes.
55:47>> Was she at home when you came back from
55:50dropping off Joel?
55:51>> No sir.
55:52>> Did you guys get in an argument?
55:54>> No.
55:55>> Did you make any advances towards her
55:58and she denied you?
56:01>> No sir. Did you have any sexual
56:03relations with her at all? No.
56:06>> I'm having a hard time with all these
56:08things. We have a lot of accounts of
56:11what happened and I'm trying to nail
56:14down and find the truth. There's their
56:17version, there's your version, and
56:19there's somewhere in the middle between
56:20these is what really happened. Okay.
56:25>> What do you mind if I ask what their
56:27version is?
56:28>> Yeah.
56:30When they came home after you didn't
56:33pick Jennifer up from work, the house
56:36was covered in bleach, smelling like
56:38bleach everywhere.
56:40As time went on, they started looking
56:42around. They find blood everywhere.
56:44They start asking you what happened
56:46while they weren't home.
56:50>> But how is that um how is that me? My
56:53story not lining up with theirs. I
56:55wasn't I wasn't at the house after after
56:59like
57:00Jennifer found the blood when she was at
57:03the house, but that was after the fact I
57:05wasn't there anymore.
57:14Talking about the time when you were at
57:16the house, you detailed it perfectly for
57:18me.
57:19>> Yeah.
57:20>> You dropped grandma off,
57:22came to the house. Okay. So, they're
57:24both gone. They
57:29when they come home. That's when the
57:32house reeks of bleach and there's blood
57:33everywhere.
57:36>> But that was not when uh Jennifer
57:42initially got to the house when she was
57:44with me because we didn't know anything
57:45about that. She just she just took me to
57:48>> That's exactly my point because
57:51follow me here.
57:53Jennifer and Joselyn are at the house.
57:57She's obviously alive. There's no
57:58bleach. There's no blood everywhere.
58:00They pick you up. You drop Jennifer off.
58:04You come back.
58:06Alive. There's no blood everywhere.
58:09You take Josson to work. You come back
58:12and you say,
58:15"He's not there. There's no blood.
58:17There's no leash. You're just there. You
58:20do your thing for a couple hours. You
58:22run into a man,
58:25end up coming in contact with Jennifer
58:27back at the house. Now, Jennifer tells
58:30me that's when she realizes there's
58:32blood in her house. The whole house
58:34smells of bleach. And she never seen
58:40Now I know there's blood in the house. I
58:42was there. I looked at it. We collected
58:44it.
58:45>> I saw the blood, too, afterwards.
58:48>> After what? Um when I came back to um
58:52Jennifer's house on Monday.
58:53>> Okay. Where did you see the blood?
58:55>> Jocelyn was showing me blood on like the
58:57TV and like blood in different spots of
59:00the house.
59:01>> Yeah, but we're talking about seeing the
59:02blood that day.
59:04>> But I didn't see any blood that day.
59:07>> Right. But they did and they asked you
59:10about it. What did you tell them?
59:19They did. And oh, I was just like, I
59:22don't know. I don't know what happened.
59:24I was
59:26I didn't
59:28I don't know anything about what
59:29happened. So, I told him I don't know.
59:32It's just it could be just blood.
59:35>> Like I was like, maybe she cut herself.
59:37Jocelyn ended up finding um a broken
59:41plate on the floor. So it was like maybe
59:43that that one that's one of the thoughts
59:46that stayed stuck in my head. Maybe she
59:47cut herself and then she got blood
59:49around the house and she just wanted to
59:50clean it.
59:53But listen, you were at the house when
59:55that happened. If she wasn't there,
59:58there was no blood in the morning when
59:59you got there. There's no bleach in the
1:00:01morning when you got there. We're
1:00:02talking about the same day.
1:00:05When when would a plate have been
1:00:06broken?
1:00:08Someone was home the whole time. She
1:00:10wasn't there by herself.
1:00:14You see, that's that's the part that I'm
1:00:15having trouble believing.
1:00:18I think something happened in between
1:00:20when you dropped off Jocelyn and when
1:00:22you were supposed to pick up Jennifer.
1:00:27Help me understand what happened.
1:00:28>> I don't know because if if I wouldn't if
1:00:31I had done something, I wouldn't have
1:00:33stayed. So, I don't like I don't know
1:00:35why. Like, this doesn't make any sense
1:00:38to me what you're asking me.
1:00:39>> Okay. Well, help me understand how the
1:00:40blood got everywhere.
1:00:42>> I mean, blood could go anywhere if a
1:00:45person like I've seen a person like if
1:00:47they put a syringe in their arm or
1:00:49something.
1:00:49>> Okay.
1:00:50>> And they don't do it correctly, blood
1:00:52can splatter everywhere.
1:00:54>> Okay.
1:00:57That's not entirely true.
1:00:58>> What do you mean?
1:01:02>> You said that you saw the blood.
1:01:03Describe it to me.
1:01:05>> What do you Where did you see the blood?
1:01:07I saw the blood in different spots like
1:01:10like there was one by the AC door and
1:01:12there was one by the TV.
1:01:14>> Okay. Where else?
1:01:19>> Not sure.
1:01:20>> Okay. Does that make
1:01:22>> some kitchen?
1:01:23>> Yeah. Someone could injure themselves
1:01:25and some drops of blood could get
1:01:26everywhere. Did you see drops of blood?
1:01:28>> I The ones that dropped the sun show me.
1:01:30Yes.
1:01:31>> How big were they?
1:01:32>> Not too big.
1:01:33>> Very small.
1:01:34>> Small.
1:01:35>> Okay.
1:01:37How'd you like get in the car?
1:01:39I
1:01:39>> don't know.
1:01:41>> Rid in the car with you? No,
1:01:42>> sir.
1:01:44>> Never.
1:01:46>> You never went animal sitting with her.
1:01:48You guys never went and picked up
1:01:50drive-thru food. None of that.
1:01:53Okay. So, there's no reason for her DNA
1:01:54to be in the car.
1:01:56It was
1:02:01the blood that was found in her car.
1:02:03It's hers.
1:02:06How did that happen?
1:02:08>> I drove last.
1:02:10>> You were the one that had the car.
1:02:15>> Not all the time, sir.
1:02:16>> I know. Not all the time. But between
1:02:19the time went missing and the time the
1:02:22blood was discovered in the car, you had
1:02:24the car.
1:02:29She I think she could have gone.
1:02:35But that's not the only situation that
1:02:36could have happened there. Help me
1:02:38understand what could have happened. But
1:02:39I don't know what happened. I'm not I'm
1:02:41just worried right now. I don't know
1:02:43what happened.
1:02:45Okay.
1:02:47So, let's talk about the blood in the
1:02:48house. You said you saw a couple small
1:02:49drops. If I saw a couple small drops, I
1:02:52wouldn't be concerned about it, right?
1:02:54No one ever died from losing a couple
1:02:55drops of blood. That's not the blood
1:02:58that was in the house. There was blood
1:03:00everywhere.
1:03:02We have a test that illuminates blood so
1:03:05that we can easily see it. It was not a
1:03:08couple drops of blood. When her body was
1:03:11recovered, it had almost no blood in it.
1:03:16I suspect that between that apartment
1:03:19and that vehicle, that's where all her
1:03:20blood went.
1:03:23She was stabbed in the heart. That makes
1:03:25me bleed a lot. That puts blood all over
1:03:28our house. That puts blood all over our
1:03:30car.
1:03:50I don't know what I'm supposed to say or
1:03:52do
1:03:53>> the truth.
1:03:54>> Well, what we're looking for is the
1:03:55truth. Her family deserves to know what
1:03:57happens to her.
1:03:58>> I already told you the truth, sir.
1:04:00>> Okay, that
1:04:02I already told you my truth. If I have
1:04:04to
1:04:07if I have to go through whatever process
1:04:09I have to go through for this moment,
1:04:11I'm fully um willing to go through it
1:04:13and continue with this process because I
1:04:16have no problem with going through with
1:04:18this process.
1:04:19>> Okay. What do you think should should
1:04:21happen during this process?
1:04:23>> I think that it's possible for a person
1:04:27like me to get set up. So I think that
1:04:30is but at the same time I see how how it
1:04:33looks and I think to myself I don't know
1:04:36what you're supposed to do in a moment
1:04:37like this. if you're supposed to if you
1:04:39mean to take somebody in or if I like
1:04:43I'm not I'm not sure, but I definitely
1:04:47want to comply and and I'm not wanting
1:04:50to fight. I just know I don't have any
1:04:52things to say.
1:04:52>> I think you're being very helpful.
1:04:56Okay. And all the things that you've
1:04:59told me have been helpful. And at the
1:05:02end of the day, what we're trying to do
1:05:03is figure out the truth.
1:05:31Do you know what happened?
1:05:50How's it going?
1:05:52Sergeant Har. Uh, Detective Lee here.
1:05:56All right.
1:05:58Um, I've been a party of the
1:06:00investigation with Detective Lee as it
1:06:02relates to this woman right there. Okay.
1:06:05Her.
1:06:08All right.
1:06:10That day that we're talking about, you
1:06:13do know what happened. I know you want
1:06:14to tell us. I can see it in you. I can
1:06:17hear it in you. All right. The
1:06:20conversation that we're having right
1:06:21now, this is the time it needs to come
1:06:23out. All right. We're not going to go
1:06:26back and forth. I know you know what
1:06:30took. If it was an accident, it was an
1:06:33accident. If it wasn't an accident, it
1:06:35wasn't an accident. But I need you to
1:06:37tell us that.
1:06:39Okay?
1:06:41You need to tell us that
1:06:44you have sisters, you have a mother, god
1:06:47forbid this ever took place to them.
1:06:49What would you expect to happen?
1:06:52You'd want someone to come and be
1:06:53honest, right?
1:06:56So, be that person. Be honest with us.
1:07:00Okay.
1:07:00>> Be honest.
1:07:01>> I am.
1:07:05>> The blue Ford car that Jennifer owned
1:07:09with her grandmother.
1:07:12The day that went missing, you were
1:07:15operating it. Correct.
1:07:16>> Yes, sir.
1:07:18>> There is magnets on that car. Correct.
1:07:22>> There's what?
1:07:23>> Magnets.
1:07:24>> Magnets. Okay.
1:07:25>> I'm asking.
1:07:26>> I'm not sure.
1:07:28>> Do you have a picture of that by chance?
1:07:30Are you talking about the barcodes
1:07:33>> for the gate? No, the magnets that go on
1:07:36the vehicle for the catsitting business.
1:07:40like the advertisement stickers.
1:07:42>> Oh, yes. Yes. You remember those?
1:07:44>> So, we we we see that car leave
1:07:48and we see it go to where we deceased
1:07:52and then we see that car come back and
1:07:54who's in the car?
1:07:57Who's driving that vehicle?
1:08:00You realize there's cameras everywhere,
1:08:02right? So, it's nothing that we're
1:08:04making up.
1:08:06>> Does that make more sense now?
1:08:07>> Somebody
1:08:08>> except No, no, no. Don't
1:08:11don't don't insult your own intelligence
1:08:14here and insult ours by coming up with
1:08:17blaming somebody else. Nobody else did
1:08:19this.
1:08:20>> Then I don't know what we're doing here
1:08:22if you're not going to. I have nothing
1:08:23else to say. I have no reason to fight.
1:08:26But I already told my truth.
1:08:27>> Okay. You told your truth?
1:08:28>> Yes, sir.
1:08:29>> Okay. Give us a couple minutes and we'll
1:08:32we'll get everything taken care of and
1:08:34we'll go from there. Okay.
1:08:35>> Okay.
1:08:35>> Give us a couple Can you uh initial
1:08:38these like you did the other ones?
1:09:02Thank you.
1:09:23question.
1:09:24>> Yes, sir.
1:09:24>> In a moment like this, does it is it is
1:09:28it that do you all make the decision to
1:09:31say we feel as if we have enough proof
1:09:34in order to take someone in
1:09:36>> sometimes.
1:09:39Just I was just wondering how that works
1:09:40because like as as I'm sure you know
1:09:44being different situations where people
1:09:45have been stepped up before and
1:09:48>> I just I'm just wondering if I'm going
1:09:50right now directly to jail. Obviously,
1:09:52you probably won't tell me or if I'm
1:09:54maybe being put into a holding cell,
1:09:56which makes sense as well. And so, I
1:09:59don't know.
1:10:02I'm just going to sit right there.
1:10:04That's it.
1:10:17Hey, Christopher.
1:10:19>> Do you remember the paperwork that we
1:10:20had yesterday?
1:10:23>> Yes, sir.
1:10:24>> Yes, sir.
1:10:25>> Yes.
1:10:27>> So, since we were in Broward County,
1:10:31we executed that warrant. We recovered
1:10:33your DNA. Um, this is a separate warrant
1:10:35for Palm Beach County because that's
1:10:37where we are now. And this one is going
1:10:39to be for the pictures. Okay. So, what
1:10:41I'm going to have you do is just stand
1:10:43upright. Just right over there. Right
1:10:45over there.
1:10:49All right. Just stand normal. I know
1:10:51there's a lot going on right now. Just
1:10:53natural and relaxed. Okay. We're going
1:10:56to do quite a few pictures.
1:11:01All right. Just keep looking forward for
1:11:02me.
1:11:05Just keep looking forward.
1:11:15Just forward again for me.
1:11:20>> Okay. Please put both hands out this
1:11:22way.
1:11:36>> Okay. Now, please turn your hands this
1:11:37way.
1:12:00Okay. Uh, please lift your shirt up.
1:12:08Okay. Can you turn all the way around
1:12:10for me?
1:12:12I'm just going to help you out here just
1:12:14a little bit. Right there.
1:12:20Thank you.
1:12:23All right. Would you face the wall to
1:12:24your right, please? And just have your
1:12:26arm up. Oh, with the shirt, please. I
1:12:30just want to capture your side here.
1:12:35Okay, we're going to do the opposite
1:12:36side.
1:12:41All right. Uh, I'm going to do your leg.
1:12:43Just do one of those.
1:12:48Switch legs.
1:12:53Then I'm going to do the back of your
1:12:54leg. Okay.
1:13:04Okay. Can you hold your hand out like
1:13:06this?
1:13:08So that you had injured. So if you would
1:13:10fold your hand like mine on your left
1:13:13hand.
1:13:20Do you have any other injuries or
1:13:21anything going on with you that I did
1:13:23not document adequately with these
1:13:24pictures? Do you have any injuries on
1:13:26your head? Anything on your neck?
1:13:28Anything like that that we might have
1:13:29missed? Can I say the same? That one?
1:13:32>> Yes.
1:13:33>> Oh, I forgot about this.
1:13:35>> About what?
1:13:36>> Oh, your hand's quite swollen.
1:13:37>> Yes.
1:13:38>> Yeah.
1:13:39>> Okay. Are you normally right-handed or
1:13:41left-handed?
1:13:42>> I'm right.
1:13:44>> Is your hand sore?
1:13:45>> I mean, it feels when I move it.
1:13:48>> I just noticed when uh when I met you in
1:13:50the parking lot, you shoved my hand
1:13:51left-handed. Is that what you normally
1:13:53do or Okay. Excuse me.
1:14:03I was holding something and my hand fell
1:14:07on like my fist.
1:14:22Check. I think he's just about done with
1:14:23pictures, right?
1:14:31Nothing on your head.
1:14:35Turn around a little bit.
1:14:37Just kind of put your head down the top
1:14:39of your head.
1:15:05I think.
1:15:08All right. So, I was just reviewing my
1:15:10pictures. I want to grab a couple more
1:15:12pictures of your hand. Okay. Yeah. If
1:15:15you can stand up for Yes. Again, just
1:15:17hold them both like this. Even if this
1:15:20one that shows
1:15:24shows.
1:15:31All right, I'm going to do this. Let me
1:15:32take that photograph
1:15:38here. Can we put this hand out again?
1:15:40Just hand out. There you go.
1:15:50Okay. and open your face.
1:16:02Okay.
1:16:04You want this?
1:16:06Good. Can you hold them close together
1:16:08like that?
1:16:14Stay right there.
1:16:16Just
1:16:18All
1:16:37right. Take your shoes and socks off,
1:16:39please.
1:16:52All right, I'm just going to move out of
1:16:53the way a little bit.
1:17:07Okay. Uh, copy what I'm doing. I'm going
1:17:08to have you just turn around and hold
1:17:10the wall and then pick your foot up.
1:17:18You can switch heat.
1:17:24Okay.
1:17:26Excuse me for one look.
1:17:31One more photo.
1:17:40>> Can you grab your socks for me, please?
1:17:46Okay. Can you pick the shoes up for me?
1:17:49Place the shoes
1:17:52inside.
1:17:54Nope. Keep the socks. Put them back on.
1:18:01We're grabbing the slower leg there. Oh,
1:18:05the ankle. Uh,
1:18:07>> the left ankle. Hold on.
1:18:10One second. One sec.
1:18:12Right.
1:18:14Okay. Hold your foot like just normal.
1:18:16All right.
1:18:18If you're looking for a scar.
1:18:21>> Nope.
1:18:21>> Or what? I
1:18:23>> just put your foot back how it was 2
1:18:24seconds ago.
1:18:30>> This.
1:18:40All right.
1:18:42Thank you for your help today,
1:18:43Christopher. I appreciate it.
1:19:07>> Okay, we're going to go back out. This
1:19:10is your copy.
1:19:13Does Christopher have a one of your
1:19:15business cards? He's
1:19:16>> He does.
1:19:19>> Hold on there, Christopher. Going fast
1:19:22here. Left.
1:19:25>> Following the interrogation, Christopher
1:19:27Sodto was arrested on July 3rd, 2023,
1:19:31and charged with firstdegree murder with
1:19:33a deadly weapon, [music] tampering with
1:19:35physical evidence, and providing a false
1:19:37statement to law enforcement.
1:19:38>> [music]
1:19:39>> He was ordered held without bond as the
1:19:41case moved through Palm Beach County
1:19:42Circuit Court. Nearly 3 [music] years
1:19:45later, Sodto went to trial before a Palm
1:19:47Beach County jury. Prosecutors [music]
1:19:50relied heavily on the blood evidence
1:19:51found inside Jennifer's Ford Escape, DNA
1:19:54linking that evidence to the victim, and
1:19:56vehicle location data placing [music]
1:19:58the SUV near the canal where her body
1:20:00was recovered. After a 5-day trial, the
1:20:03jury rejected the first-degree murder
1:20:05charge, but [music] found Sodto guilty
1:20:07of the lesser offense of seconddegree
1:20:08murder along with tampering with
1:20:10physical evidence. Sodto was ultimately
1:20:12sentenced to 40 years in the Florida
1:20:14Department of Corrections. He also
1:20:16received [music] a 5-year sentence for
1:20:18evidence tampering, but that term will
1:20:20run concurrently. As of the latest
1:20:22available records, Soda remains in state
1:20:25custody serving out his sentence. If you
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