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He Offered Him a Job. Hours Later, He Was Dead | Kirkland Lehto Interrogation — Transcript

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  1. 0:00What do we remember? What what triggered
  2. 0:02you to pull that gun out?
  3. 0:06>> I don't know.
  4. 0:08Voices in my head.
  5. 0:09>> What voices?
  6. 0:12>> Voices in my head. I'm not sure.
  7. 0:19>> On July 6th, 2021,
  8. 0:22Christopher Sean Rogers was riding in a
  9. 0:24pickup truck through Loxahatchee,
  10. 0:26Florida.
  11. 0:27>> [music]
  12. 0:27>> Christopher was 31 and owned a painting
  13. 0:30business.
  14. 0:31Just hours earlier, he'd offered work to
  15. 0:34someone he'd only recently met. [music]
  16. 0:36A young man named Kirkland Evan Ledo.
  17. 0:39Christopher was sitting in the backseat
  18. 0:40[music]
  19. 0:41while Kirkland was up front beside the
  20. 0:43driver, Andrew Silpot.
  21. 0:45During the ride, shots were fired inside
  22. 0:48the truck, striking Christopher [music]
  23. 0:49several times.
  24. 0:51Andrew initially headed toward a
  25. 0:53hospital, but when he saw Christopher
  26. 0:55unresponsive in the rearview mirror, he
  27. 0:58pulled over and called 911.
  28. 1:01Deputies arrived and pronounced [music]
  29. 1:02Christopher dead at the scene.
  30. 1:05According to Andrew, there had been no
  31. 1:07argument or confrontation leading up to
  32. 1:09the shooting.
  33. 1:11Christopher had offered Kirkland [music]
  34. 1:12a chance to earn some money earlier that
  35. 1:14very day, and now Kirkland was suspected
  36. 1:17[music] of killing him.
  37. 1:19Investigators with the Palm Beach County
  38. 1:21Sheriff's Office [music]
  39. 1:22had Andrew's account of what happened,
  40. 1:24but they still needed to hear from
  41. 1:26Kirkland himself.
  42. 1:28Detectives brought him in for
  43. 1:29questioning to understand what happened
  44. 1:31inside the truck [music]
  45. 1:32and what could have led to Christopher's
  46. 1:34death.
  47. 1:35This is the interrogation of Kirkland
  48. 1:37Evan Ledo.
  49. 1:42>> Hello.
  50. 1:42>> Hello.
  51. 1:43>> How you doing?
  52. 1:43>> Good. [snorts] How about yourself?
  53. 1:44>> Not bad. You finish your water? You want
  54. 1:46more water?
  55. 1:46>> Uh no, that's fine.
  56. 1:48>> You sure?
  57. 1:48>> Uh-uh. Thank you so much.
  58. 1:52>> All right. So, people might not detect
  59. 1:55bad words.
  60. 1:56>> That's cool.
  61. 1:57>> I'm a woman.
  62. 1:59What's your name?
  63. 2:00>> Kirkland.
  64. 2:00>> Kirkland?
  65. 2:02All right. Is that your first name or
  66. 2:04>> Yes.
  67. 2:04>> It is your first name? All right. What's
  68. 2:06your
  69. 2:07>> Evan.
  70. 2:08Kirkland.
  71. 2:11>> Evan. What's your last name?
  72. 2:13>> Lehto.
  73. 2:13>> Okay. How do you spell that for me?
  74. 2:15>> L
  75. 2:17E
  76. 2:18>> Uh my family's Finnish.
  77. 2:20>> It's Finnish?
  78. 2:22>> Uh yeah, Finnish. And then my mom, she
  79. 2:24calls it like half 57. She says she's a
  80. 2:26little bit of everything, but my mom's
  81. 2:27Finnish.
  82. 2:28>> Oh, okay.
  83. 2:29Wow.
  84. 2:29>> And then my dad's Finnish.
  85. 2:31>> And what's your mom?
  86. 2:32>> She's She just says half 57, a little
  87. 2:34bit of everything.
  88. 2:35>> Oh, wow.
  89. 2:37Where were you born?
  90. 2:38>> Right there in Loxahatchee, uh Palms
  91. 2:40West.
  92. 2:40>> Oh, so you've been living here for a
  93. 2:41while.
  94. 2:42>> Yes.
  95. 2:44>> All right. What's your birthday?
  96. 2:45>> Uh 6 26 98.
  97. 2:48>> Got you.
  98. 2:49All right. What's your phone number?
  99. 2:51>> Shh.
  100. 2:54I just got a new phone number, I think.
  101. 3:02>> What service company is that with?
  102. 3:05>> Boost Mobile.
  103. 3:05>> Boost Mobile?
  104. 3:07>> No, not Boost. Cricket.
  105. 3:09>> Cricket. Got you.
  106. 3:11Cricket what? Cricket Wireless?
  107. 3:13>> Yes.
  108. 3:13>> All right.
  109. 3:15Uh what's your address?
  110. 3:17>> Uh
  111. 3:22>> One more time?
  112. 3:25I don't know what Loxahatchee is.
  113. 3:26>> No, it's it's really
  114. 3:28collecting like collecting money.
  115. 3:29>> Oh, okay. Oh, wow. All right.
  116. 3:34>> Yes.
  117. 3:34>> All right.
  118. 3:36All right.
  119. 3:38And that's out of Loxahatchee, right?
  120. 3:39>> Yes.
  121. 3:40>> All right, cool.
  122. 3:43All right.
  123. 3:46All right. So, basically
  124. 3:48what I'm here to find out is exactly
  125. 3:49just
  126. 3:50what happened tonight.
  127. 3:52>> I don't even remember.
  128. 3:53>> Okay. So, we'll we'll get into that.
  129. 3:56Before before we do, I just want to make
  130. 3:58sure I protect myself and then I protect
  131. 4:00you. Okay? So, what that means is I'm
  132. 4:03going to run through a series of
  133. 4:05statements and if you have any questions
  134. 4:07about these statements, you let me know.
  135. 4:08>> Okay.
  136. 4:08>> All right.
  137. 4:10Is that
  138. 4:11They don't I don't know if I'm allowed
  139. 4:12to use that.
  140. 4:14All right. Uh you have the right to
  141. 4:16remain silent and not answer any
  142. 4:18questions. Do you understand that?
  143. 4:19>> Yes.
  144. 4:20>> All right.
  145. 4:21Uh any statement
  146. 4:22you make must be freely and voluntarily
  147. 4:24given. Do you understand that?
  148. 4:26>> Yes.
  149. 4:26>> Okay. You have the right to the presence
  150. 4:28and the representation of a lawyer of
  151. 4:29your choice before you make any
  152. 4:30statement during any questioning. Do you
  153. 4:32understand that?
  154. 4:33>> Yes.
  155. 4:33>> All right.
  156. 4:35Uh if you cannot afford a lawyer, you're
  157. 4:36entitled to the presence and the
  158. 4:37representation of a court-appointed
  159. 4:39lawyer before you make any statement
  160. 4:40during any questioning. Do you
  161. 4:41understand that?
  162. 4:42>> Yes.
  163. 4:43>> All right. If at any time during the
  164. 4:44interview, you do not wish to answer any
  165. 4:46questions, you're privileged to remain
  166. 4:48silent. Do you understand that?
  167. 4:49>> Yes.
  168. 4:50>> Okay. I can make no threats or promises
  169. 4:52to induce you to make a statement. Can't
  170. 4:54offer you $100,000 and say, "Hey, tell
  171. 4:55me what's up."
  172. 4:56Um this must be on your own free will.
  173. 4:58Do you understand that?
  174. 4:59>> Yes.
  175. 4:59>> All right.
  176. 5:00Any statement can and will be used
  177. 5:02against you in the court of law. Do you
  178. 5:03understand that?
  179. 5:04>> Yes.
  180. 5:04>> Okay.
  181. 5:05Now, I know you said
  182. 5:08uh you don't remember.
  183. 5:10>> Thank you, baby.
  184. 5:11>> you remember?
  185. 5:13>> I heard a loud like my left ear right
  186. 5:15now is still ringing.
  187. 5:16>> It is?
  188. 5:17>> Yeah.
  189. 5:17>> Okay.
  190. 5:18>> Yeah.
  191. 5:19Like back in the day, I had epilepsy,
  192. 5:21right? So,
  193. 5:22like when serious stuff goes on, I like
  194. 5:24blacked out.
  195. 5:25>> Okay.
  196. 5:26>> Next thing you know, we're pulled over
  197. 5:27on the road.
  198. 5:28>> Mhm.
  199. 5:29>> And
  200. 5:29>> How long you know your man's over here
  201. 5:31um
  202. 5:32>> My father and his father have known
  203. 5:34known each other since since we was
  204. 5:36babies, yeah. And that was him driving
  205. 5:38the truck.
  206. 5:39>> Wait.
  207. 5:40So, you drive trucks or like you got
  208. 5:42your CDL and
  209. 5:43>> I don't know.
  210. 5:44>> Oh, okay. What do you What do you do for
  211. 5:45work?
  212. 5:46>> Nothing at the I've been unemployed for
  213. 5:48the last year.
  214. 5:49>> Oh man, sorry to hear that one.
  215. 5:50>> Yeah, me too. I'm just trying to get
  216. 5:52back on my feet.
  217. 5:53>> Got you. Got you. So, where were you
  218. 5:55looking for jobs?
  219. 5:58>> I just applied at Publix.
  220. 5:59>> Mhm.
  221. 6:00>> Um
  222. 6:00>> Get anything back?
  223. 6:02>> No, no word back.
  224. 6:03>> No? Oh man.
  225. 6:05>> But
  226. 6:06I apply places, but it's like my name
  227. 6:09got thrown out of the rug cuz I you
  228. 6:11know, I could do a hundred good things
  229. 6:12for people, but they only remember the
  230. 6:13one bad thing, you know?
  231. 6:14>> I hear that, man.
  232. 6:15>> It's like showed up late for work once,
  233. 6:17so they just going to remember that one
  234. 6:18time.
  235. 6:18>> Got you. Got you.
  236. 6:20>> That's like when I was doing
  237. 6:21construction and stuff, so
  238. 6:22>> Mhm.
  239. 6:23And how do you know Andrew?
  240. 6:25>> Yeah.
  241. 6:25>> Yeah.
  242. 6:26>> Like I said, our fathers were they known
  243. 6:28each other for years. He's the dump
  244. 6:30truck driver that comes over our house.
  245. 6:32>> Who?
  246. 6:33>> Andrew.
  247. 6:33>> Oh.
  248. 6:34>> And his dad.
  249. 6:35>> How long have you known him for? You
  250. 6:36said since
  251. 6:37>> Since Since I was a jit. Like yeah, like
  252. 6:39he's he's like
  253. 6:41I think he's like six or seven years
  254. 6:42older than me.
  255. 6:44>> Okay. And he's
  256. 6:45>> He said he was 29 and then
  257. 6:47>> How old How old are you?
  258. 6:49>> Well, I just turned 23 June 26.
  259. 6:51>> Oh wow. Happy belated, man.
  260. 6:53>> Thanks, man.
  261. 6:54>> All right. So, you said So, did you Did
  262. 6:57you meet up with him today or how did
  263. 6:58you guys come into contact?
  264. 6:59>> He just came and picked me up and we had
  265. 7:01just went out to Berkeley.
  266. 7:03>> Okay. Oh, you guys drove out west? Okay.
  267. 7:06Who did you guys go see out west?
  268. 7:08>> Um we had just grabbed some weed, to be
  269. 7:10honest with you.
  270. 7:11>> Got you. Got you. I appreciate you being
  271. 7:12honest.
  272. 7:12>> Honestly, damn thank 100%. I guess we
  273. 7:14just grabbed some weed, like
  274. 7:16and we was just heading home.
  275. 7:17>> Okay. And then what happened?
  276. 7:20>> Just driving down the road, like I said,
  277. 7:22I heard
  278. 7:24>> Mhm.
  279. 7:25>> Like Like I said, my ears still ringing
  280. 7:27right now. Like
  281. 7:28>> But what was that pop?
  282. 7:30>> I think it was a gunshot.
  283. 7:32>> Okay. What makes you think that?
  284. 7:34>> Cuz that [ __ ] was loud as up. That [ __ ]
  285. 7:36was loud.
  286. 7:36>> Yeah. Where was it coming from?
  287. 7:39>> Inside.
  288. 7:40>> Inside the truck? Okay. Now, who had the
  289. 7:43gun?
  290. 7:44>> I don't remember.
  291. 7:45>> You don't remember?
  292. 7:47Now, you said your left ear was ringing?
  293. 7:49>> Yeah, still ringing.
  294. 7:50>> Okay.
  295. 7:51Um
  296. 7:53If your If your left ear is ringing,
  297. 7:55that means the uh
  298. 7:57the shots might have been pretty close,
  299. 7:59you'd say?
  300. 8:00>> 110%.
  301. 8:01>> Okay.
  302. 8:03Um
  303. 8:04at what point did you hear the shots?
  304. 8:09>> It felt like the shots were so fast and
  305. 8:10then we were
  306. 8:12I just woke up and we was on the side of
  307. 8:13the road.
  308. 8:14>> Okay. What happened between
  309. 8:16you hearing the shots and pulling over
  310. 8:18to the side of the road?
  311. 8:19>> to the music.
  312. 8:20>> And where was Andrew?
  313. 8:22>> Uh driving the truck.
  314. 8:24>> Okay. Where were you sitting?
  315. 8:25>> In the passenger seat.
  316. 8:26>> Okay. And who Who was the guy in the in
  317. 8:29the back?
  318. 8:30>> I don't know. It was It was this
  319. 8:32Andrew's boy, I think.
  320. 8:33>> Have you ever been with him before?
  321. 8:35>> No, my first time.
  322. 8:36>> Okay. Okay. Did he give you any kind of
  323. 8:38vibes? Did you guys talk or communicate?
  324. 8:40Were you supposed to get like
  325. 8:42>> Um
  326. 8:44uh he would really talk. I would the
  327. 8:45music was just playing, really.
  328. 8:47>> Okay. What were you guys listening to?
  329. 8:52>> I think some PC Tweety.
  330. 8:53>> Who?
  331. 8:54>> PC Tweety.
  332. 8:54>> You got me on that one. Who is that?
  333. 8:57>> It's out of town. It's a group out from
  334. 8:59out west.
  335. 9:00>> Oh, okay. Okay. One of like a local rap,
  336. 9:02like a street Okay, I got you. So, you
  337. 9:03were listening to that. Now,
  338. 9:05did
  339. 9:08the I think the guy in the back His name
  340. 9:09is
  341. 9:10Does that sound familiar?
  342. 9:11>> What is the guy I don't know his name.
  343. 9:13>> Okay. But, you know Andrew?
  344. 9:14>> Yes.
  345. 9:15>> Okay. That's Andrew's boy. That's not
  346. 9:16your boy.
  347. 9:17>> No.
  348. 9:17>> Okay. Did I I believe his name is
  349. 9:21say anything to you on the ride to Bell
  350. 9:24Blade?
  351. 9:27>> He told I heard him tell Andrew to stop.
  352. 9:30>> Stop what?
  353. 9:31>> Stop it.
  354. 9:32>> Stop what?
  355. 9:37>> I don't know.
  356. 9:38>> Did you tell Andrew to stop it?
  357. 9:40>> Yeah, like stop He said like stop making
  358. 9:42it worse.
  359. 9:43>> What do you think he meant by that?
  360. 9:44>> I don't know.
  361. 9:46It's like I said, that [ __ ] happened so
  362. 9:48fast.
  363. 9:49>> Mhm.
  364. 9:50Now,
  365. 9:52uh after speaking with Andrew, he
  366. 9:54mentioned that um
  367. 9:56you guys met up earlier today?
  368. 9:59>> Yeah, he was at um my father's house
  369. 10:01earlier doing work.
  370. 10:02>> Got you. What kind of work?
  371. 10:04>> Uh they were just fixing the property up
  372. 10:06like doing um
  373. 10:08driveways like skid steer work. He was
  374. 10:10driving the dump truck and his dad would
  375. 10:12be on a skid steer
  376. 10:14fixing our property up.
  377. 10:15>> Got you. Is it your Is it your dad's
  378. 10:17house? Or do you Do you and dad live
  379. 10:19together?
  380. 10:19>> Yes.
  381. 10:20>> Okay. So, fixing up your house
  382. 10:22basically.
  383. 10:23>> Well, my dad's house.
  384. 10:24>> Okay. Well, all right. I get that.
  385. 10:26>> [laughter]
  386. 10:26>> Um
  387. 10:27>> Uh
  388. 10:28So, basically fixing the house, did you
  389. 10:31Was it How long had it been since you'd
  390. 10:32seen him?
  391. 10:34>> Damn, that was around 3:00 or 4:00.
  392. 10:37>> No, like I mean, I think you mentioned
  393. 10:39that you guys haven't seen each other
  394. 10:40for a while.
  395. 10:41>> Oh, yeah. Before today, I haven't seen
  396. 10:43him 6 months.
  397. 10:44>> 6 months? That's a long time.
  398. 10:46>> Maybe maybe longer.
  399. 10:47>> Oh, wow. Do you remember the last time
  400. 10:49you saw him?
  401. 10:53>> Not exactly date. Like probably the last
  402. 10:55time he was at the house doing work.
  403. 10:57Like that's really when I seen him.
  404. 10:59I went to high school with his little
  405. 11:00brother that I know him way more.
  406. 11:02>> Got you. Got you. Who's his little
  407. 11:04brother?
  408. 11:04>> Um Raheem and then he has another little
  409. 11:07brother um Javon.
  410. 11:10Javon.
  411. 11:10>> Javon and Raheem. Javon, Raheem, and
  412. 11:12Andrew.
  413. 11:13So, you mess with them more You're cool
  414. 11:15with them more than you are with Andrew
  415. 11:17or
  416. 11:18>> Yeah. Well, I used to be, but mhm King
  417. 11:21threw me under the bus already. [ __ ]
  418. 11:23with him though.
  419. 11:23>> Oh, for real? Damn, I'm sorry to hear
  420. 11:25that.
  421. 11:26>> Yeah, he was I thought he was a real
  422. 11:27one, but everyone showed their hand and
  423. 11:28do something again.
  424. 11:29>> You You that.
  425. 11:31So,
  426. 11:33you Andrew today, y'all hit it off. Did
  427. 11:35y'all talk about anything during that
  428. 11:36time when you saw him?
  429. 11:39>> Four wheeler rides.
  430. 11:40>> Mhm.
  431. 11:42>> They were talking about going fishing.
  432. 11:43>> Mhm.
  433. 11:47You mentioned that you tried to sell him
  434. 11:48sell him something.
  435. 11:50>> I didn't.
  436. 11:50>> Mhm.
  437. 11:52>> Weed.
  438. 11:53>> No, really? Did you?
  439. 11:55>> Uh maybe weed.
  440. 11:57>> Mhm. What about the gun?
  441. 11:58>> Him and uh
  442. 12:00Andrew and the dude that was behind me
  443. 12:02had bought weed at the house.
  444. 12:04>> Which house?
  445. 12:05>> The one we had went to earlier to pick
  446. 12:07up the weed from.
  447. 12:07>> Gotcha. Oh, in Bell Glade.
  448. 12:09>> Mhm.
  449. 12:09>> I gotcha. Now, when you going back to
  450. 12:12that conversation, did you
  451. 12:15try to sell Andrew your gun?
  452. 12:17>> No.
  453. 12:19>> How long have you had it?
  454. 12:27>> I don't even remember.
  455. 12:28>> You don't remember?
  456. 12:30Was it less than 5 months?
  457. 12:33>> I don't know.
  458. 12:35>> What do you mean you don't know?
  459. 12:39>> Which gun?
  460. 12:39>> The gun that's uh in the car on the
  461. 12:42dashboard.
  462. 12:45>> Oh, I'm not sure.
  463. 12:46>> You don't know?
  464. 12:48I'm asking cuz it's it's it's on your
  465. 12:50side
  466. 12:51where you said you were sitting. It's
  467. 12:52it's right on your side where you said
  468. 12:54you were sitting. And I know he
  469. 12:56mentioned that you were trying to get
  470. 12:58some money cuz you were out of work and
  471. 13:00tried to sell the gun.
  472. 13:01Which makes sense to me.
  473. 13:03>> I feel like ever since this [ __ ]
  474. 13:04happened, that [ __ ]
  475. 13:05>> What?
  476. 13:06>> threw me off a little bit like
  477. 13:07>> Mhm.
  478. 13:08>> I don't even I don't think I did. I
  479. 13:10don't think I tried to sell him it. He
  480. 13:12had his own gun on him.
  481. 13:13>> Gotcha. Gotcha. But, how long had you
  482. 13:15had that one for?
  483. 13:18>> I would say was What are we in? August?
  484. 13:20>> Yeah.
  485. 13:22>> No, we we in July.
  486. 13:24>> Damn, already?
  487. 13:26That's right. July 6th, 7th. Fast
  488. 13:28forward. Go ahead.
  489. 13:29>> I was going to say that July I was
  490. 13:31>> You right. You right. You right. You
  491. 13:32right. You right. You right. You right.
  492. 13:33Your birthday was last month.
  493. 13:34>> All right. So, probably
  494. 13:37probably since like maybe
  495. 13:39January.
  496. 13:40>> Mhm. Where'd you get Where'd you buy it?
  497. 13:42>> I don't honestly remember.
  498. 13:44>> How you get the gun? You don't know how
  499. 13:45you got it. You don't understand how you
  500. 13:46got it. It just fell in your lap?
  501. 13:47>> No, like I had got two guns stolen from
  502. 13:50my house. I had just bought it from
  503. 13:53I think a pawn shop.
  504. 13:54>> Okay. How much The same one that's on
  505. 13:57the dash, right?
  506. 13:58>> Mhm.
  507. 14:00I don't remember, man. That [ __ ] Like I
  508. 14:02said
  509. 14:03>> Wait, what kind of gun are you talking
  510. 14:04about then? You said you bought it from
  511. 14:06the pawn shop.
  512. 14:06>> on the dash.
  513. 14:07>> Okay. How long have you said you've had
  514. 14:08that one since January?
  515. 14:10>> I think so.
  516. 14:11>> You go to the range or anything like
  517. 14:12that?
  518. 14:13>> Mhm. No.
  519. 14:14>> You ever shot a gun?
  520. 14:16>> Mhm.
  521. 14:17No, like I don't I don't really be
  522. 14:19shooting like that.
  523. 14:20>> You don't practice?
  524. 14:22So, you just bought it and said I'm
  525. 14:23going to have it for what? Like
  526. 14:24protection
  527. 14:25>> Self-protection. And if someone else is
  528. 14:27in trouble, if something happens to us
  529. 14:29>> Mhm.
  530. 14:30>> Really, that's it.
  531. 14:32>> Okay.
  532. 14:33And
  533. 14:34do you typically keep it with you at
  534. 14:36your dad's house?
  535. 14:38>> Yeah.
  536. 14:39>> Okay. Does he know you have one?
  537. 14:40>> Yeah.
  538. 14:41>> Okay. Does your dad got guns too or is
  539. 14:42it you?
  540. 14:42>> Yeah.
  541. 14:43>> Okay.
  542. 14:43Um did you and your dad probably ever go
  543. 14:46shoot it at all?
  544. 14:47>> No.
  545. 14:48>> Okay. So, you're the only one who's
  546. 14:49touched that firearm.
  547. 14:52>> I think
  548. 14:54>> I mean, I If I had my firearm, ain't
  549. 14:56nobody touching it. I don't know I'm
  550. 14:57going to be honest with you.
  551. 14:59>> [laughter]
  552. 14:59>> I feel that.
  553. 15:00>> You know what I mean? Cuz you never know
  554. 15:01what they'll do with it.
  555. 15:02>> Yeah, exactly.
  556. 15:03>> And you can't let people borrow it.
  557. 15:06What do you mean? Talk to me.
  558. 15:08>> Like with that situation that happened,
  559. 15:10I don't even Like I said, I had I had
  560. 15:12epilepsy. I passed out.
  561. 15:14>> Mhm.
  562. 15:15>> Like you know when you're like you get
  563. 15:17so built up or something and you just
  564. 15:18like black out?
  565. 15:19>> Mhm. Mhm.
  566. 15:19>> You ever seen people do that, man?
  567. 15:21>> I did that in CrossFit.
  568. 15:22>> That [ __ ] happened to me like when my
  569. 15:24mom and dad was fighting back in the day
  570. 15:26like when I ever get a lot of pressure
  571. 15:27or something. [ __ ] is like get caught.
  572. 15:30>> Now, did you get pressure today
  573. 15:33on drive back from Bel Air?
  574. 15:36What was that pressure from? Talk to me
  575. 15:38about that.
  576. 15:39>> I don't know. So something else?
  577. 15:42>> Talk to me.
  578. 15:43>> Like in my head. I don't know.
  579. 15:45>> What was going on in your head?
  580. 15:49What did you hear?
  581. 15:52>> I just kept reading signs. Said I was
  582. 15:54going the wrong way.
  583. 15:56>> Signs on the road?
  584. 15:58Okay. And how did that make you feel?
  585. 16:04>> Nervous.
  586. 16:05>> Mhm.
  587. 16:06Is it because you weren't driving or
  588. 16:08because you saw the signs?
  589. 16:10>> Both.
  590. 16:11>> Okay.
  591. 16:12>> Maybe a little bit of both.
  592. 16:13>> Okay. Now, did you want to drive or
  593. 16:16>> Not really. I was just going for the
  594. 16:18ride. I didn't expect what happened to
  595. 16:20happen, you know?
  596. 16:21>> Okay. I hear you.
  597. 16:23I'm listening.
  598. 16:25>> So in the end
  599. 16:25>> I mean you seem sorry about it.
  600. 16:28>> About what?
  601. 16:28>> About what happened.
  602. 16:31You said you heard
  603. 16:33>> Oh, yeah. That was crazy.
  604. 16:34>> Gunshots, right?
  605. 16:35>> Yeah.
  606. 16:36>> Okay. And you mentioned
  607. 16:38>> Where is the
  608. 16:39>> It is inside the uh
  609. 16:41in the truck still.
  610. 16:46Now, during this time
  611. 16:49um you said you saw signs that said the
  612. 16:51wrong way?
  613. 16:53>> I was just reading the signs on the
  614. 16:55road. It was like
  615. 16:56>> But
  616. 16:56>> It
  617. 16:57ended direction or something that was
  618. 16:59saying not in the direction.
  619. 17:03Wrong way.
  620. 17:04>> Okay.
  621. 17:04>> The red signs that say wrong way.
  622. 17:06>> Yeah, yeah.
  623. 17:07Did you tell Andrew that at all or
  624. 17:11>> He ain't told me.
  625. 17:13>> Andrew told you?
  626. 17:14>> I I like he was telling me like we was
  627. 17:16going the wrong way.
  628. 17:18>> Okay, but did he verbally say Did he
  629. 17:19look at you and say
  630. 17:21Kirk, we Look at the sign that said
  631. 17:23wrong way.
  632. 17:24>> Mhm.
  633. 17:24>> Okay, but you felt like he was telling
  634. 17:26you.
  635. 17:27Okay.
  636. 17:28And then what?
  637. 17:31>> I don't I feel like I don't remember.
  638. 17:33>> But you mentioned
  639. 17:34>> Next thing I know, we just I just woke
  640. 17:36up and he was on the phone with the
  641. 17:38cops. I was crying, called my mom. She
  642. 17:41told me like
  643. 17:42She told me to call the police, but he
  644. 17:44was already on the phone with them. So,
  645. 17:46like I felt like I didn't even know what
  646. 17:48happened. So, like I was just in a daze.
  647. 17:52And [clears throat]
  648. 17:54by the time I know it, I called y'all
  649. 17:57and she was already on scene.
  650. 17:59>> Who?
  651. 18:00>> I think the lady that drove me here. I
  652. 18:03think that's who it was.
  653. 18:04>> What did you What did you tell Mom?
  654. 18:07>> I just said it's the first time I heard
  655. 18:09gunshots in my face so close. And she
  656. 18:11said, "What happened?" I said, "I don't
  657. 18:12know." She said, "Just call 911."
  658. 18:14>> Okay.
  659. 18:15>> So, that's when I called him, but he was
  660. 18:16already on the phone with them. But then
  661. 18:18phone number
  662. 18:18>> Now, did you Did you tell her
  663. 18:21um
  664. 18:23Did you
  665. 18:24What else did you tell Mom?
  666. 18:30>> So, I don't know what just happened.
  667. 18:31This is I think I think I said this is
  668. 18:33the first time I've heard gunshots like
  669. 18:35that.
  670. 18:36And
  671. 18:37I think that's it.
  672. 18:39>> Okay, did you tell her that you shot
  673. 18:40somebody?
  674. 18:41>> No.
  675. 18:42>> You didn't tell her that.
  676. 18:42>> No.
  677. 18:43>> So, if I speak to Mom, she's not going
  678. 18:44to tell me that Kirk said that he shot
  679. 18:46somebody.
  680. 18:46>> No.
  681. 18:47>> Okay.
  682. 18:49Now,
  683. 18:51the gun is obviously on the dashboard
  684. 18:53where you were sitting in the passenger
  685. 18:54seat. You mentioned that your ear was
  686. 18:56ringing and obviously the gun is yours
  687. 18:59on the on the left side.
  688. 19:01>> Yes.
  689. 19:01>> Okay.
  690. 19:02Um are you left-handed?
  691. 19:04>> Right.
  692. 19:04>> Right-handed? Okay.
  693. 19:06Um
  694. 19:09Between the time that you guys were
  695. 19:10coming back from Belle Glade, did
  696. 19:12he say anything to you at all?
  697. 19:16>> Yes.
  698. 19:17If I remember right, I think he was
  699. 19:19playing around with his gun that he had
  700. 19:20on him.
  701. 19:21>> He had a gun on him? And how did you
  702. 19:23notice that?
  703. 19:24>> Cuz he took it out at the dude's house
  704. 19:27in Belle Glade.
  705. 19:28>> Okay.
  706. 19:29>> Like they was playing around with guns
  707. 19:31and [ __ ] like
  708. 19:32>> Okay.
  709. 19:33>> Pulling it out like it's a toy or
  710. 19:34something.
  711. 19:35>> Got you. Did ever
  712. 19:38um say anything to you in the car?
  713. 19:42I know this happened all in Belle Glade,
  714. 19:43right?
  715. 19:44>> What? In front of Palm Beach Aggregates?
  716. 19:47>> No, no, no. You said while you guys were
  717. 19:49in Belle Glade, he was playing with a
  718. 19:51gun like it was a toy. Okay.
  719. 19:53Did he say anything or do anything on
  720. 19:55the drive east?
  721. 19:57>> We was just listening to music. I don't
  722. 19:59remember that much.
  723. 20:00>> Okay. Do you know if he was on his phone
  724. 20:02at all?
  725. 20:05>> I don't know. I That's
  726. 20:06>> And was he sitting directly behind you
  727. 20:08or behind Andrew?
  728. 20:09>> Behind me.
  729. 20:10>> Okay.
  730. 20:11Um
  731. 20:12So, so what happened, man?
  732. 20:14>> I don't know.
  733. 20:16Like I said, I blacked
  734. 20:17>> You know, you know he's dead.
  735. 20:18>> What?
  736. 20:19>> Yeah.
  737. 20:33Can you tell me more about that?
  738. 20:36>> Like I said, I got no idea.
  739. 20:48>> Do you know how it happened?
  740. 20:54Cuz based on what you're telling me, all
  741. 20:56right?
  742. 20:57Hear me out.
  743. 20:58You're telling me that that gun is
  744. 21:00yours. You tried to sell it to Andrew
  745. 21:02today.
  746. 21:03>> Yeah, that's what I heard in there
  747. 21:04today.
  748. 21:04>> Yeah, I know. Like when it was daylight
  749. 21:06out.
  750. 21:06>> Yeah.
  751. 21:07>> 2:00, 3:00 around that time is what he
  752. 21:09told me. Um, how much was you you trying
  753. 21:12to sell it to him for?
  754. 21:13>> I think 250 cuz my insurance is due on
  755. 21:15the 8th.
  756. 21:16>> For the car?
  757. 21:17>> Yeah, for my truck.
  758. 21:17>> Got you. Got you.
  759. 21:18>> I don't have the money, so I was just
  760. 21:19trying to get some money.
  761. 21:21>> Okay. So, you were trying to
  762. 21:24come up real quick.
  763. 21:25>> Yeah, I was trying to pay my insurance.
  764. 21:27>> Right. And did he end up He didn't end
  765. 21:29up buying it?
  766. 21:30>> No. He has He has He said he just had
  767. 21:33his own.
  768. 21:34>> Got you. Got you. Did he show you his
  769. 21:35gun?
  770. 21:36>> Yeah.
  771. 21:36>> Okay. Um
  772. 21:38Did he have it on him today at all?
  773. 21:41How you know?
  774. 21:42>> Cuz it kept falling on out.
  775. 21:45>> And in Belle Glade?
  776. 21:47>> Both times.
  777. 21:48>> What do you mean both times? Explain to
  778. 21:50me.
  779. 21:50>> Like at the house and in the in the
  780. 21:52truck, too. Like it wasn't a toy.
  781. 21:55>> Okay. Explain Explain that to me.
  782. 21:58>> I ain't his gun. He just had it out and
  783. 22:00[ __ ]
  784. 22:02>> Just on his lap or
  785. 22:04>> No, like on the side.
  786. 22:06Like, you know, tucked between the seat
  787. 22:08and seat.
  788. 22:09>> Oh, okay. I got you. I got you.
  789. 22:10>> But it was That [ __ ] his That [ __ ] was
  790. 22:12huge.
  791. 22:13>> What kind of gun you think it is?
  792. 22:15>> I think he has a I think he said he has
  793. 22:17a 9 mm or something.
  794. 22:18>> Okay. And where was it in the car? In
  795. 22:21the truck?
  796. 22:23>> Uh I think it was on his person.
  797. 22:25>> Oh, I got you. Like in his pocket?
  798. 22:27>> Yeah.
  799. 22:28>> Oh.
  800. 22:28>> Maybe when he's out outside the truck.
  801. 22:30>> Got you. Got you. But he had it in his
  802. 22:31pocket as he was driving you back home?
  803. 22:35>> Yeah.
  804. 22:35>> Got you.
  805. 22:36Um
  806. 22:38So, obviously something happened. You
  807. 22:39mentioned that you heard gunshots. You
  808. 22:41got on the phone with Mom, and I
  809. 22:43listened to the 911 calls before we got
  810. 22:45out here. I can hear you on there
  811. 22:46telling her you made a mistake and you
  812. 22:48made a mistake. I don't know what what
  813. 22:49why I did this.
  814. 22:53>> Shh. I don't remember.
  815. 22:55>> You don't remember?
  816. 22:57>> He won't talk.
  817. 22:58>> But you remember hearing how many
  818. 22:59gunshots you think?
  819. 23:03>> Maybe three or four before I don't
  820. 23:05I don't even remember what happened
  821. 23:07after that.
  822. 23:08>> Okay. But you mentioned that it happened
  823. 23:09inside the truck for sure.
  824. 23:12Cuz it was how close was it?
  825. 23:14Show me.
  826. 23:15>> I still like it was bad to be like right
  827. 23:17here and right here in his ear.
  828. 23:19>> Okay.
  829. 23:21All right.
  830. 23:21>> My head [ __ ] still ringing.
  831. 23:22>> Is it?
  832. 23:23Okay.
  833. 23:24Now
  834. 23:27you mentioned that never said anything
  835. 23:29to you Andrew never said anything to you
  836. 23:31all of a sudden you just hear gunshots.
  837. 23:34And
  838. 23:35what you're telling me is you you don't
  839. 23:37know who shot.
  840. 23:39Do you believe you shot?
  841. 23:42Why not?
  842. 23:44>> Mhm.
  843. 23:44Cuz I don't think I would make that
  844. 23:46mistake.
  845. 23:47>> Okay. Why do you say that?
  846. 23:48>> Cuz he said I want to talk to my mom on
  847. 23:50the phone. I said I made a mistake but
  848. 23:52I don't think
  849. 23:53>> You think it was not a mistake and it
  850. 23:55was intentional?
  851. 23:56>> No.
  852. 23:57>> Okay. What do What do you say? I don't I
  853. 23:59don't want to put words What did you
  854. 24:00tell your mom?
  855. 24:01>> I guess I don't know.
  856. 24:03I don't even remember the call like I
  857. 24:04felt like I was He just told me to call
  858. 24:07um
  859. 24:08911 and I can't I just called my mom.
  860. 24:12>> Are you Are you honest about calling
  861. 24:13your mother?
  862. 24:15>> Honest? Yeah.
  863. 24:17Yeah. I called her.
  864. 24:18>> Okay. So right after the shooting
  865. 24:20happened
  866. 24:21>> Maybe 5 minutes afterwards.
  867. 24:23>> Okay. Why was she your first call?
  868. 24:26>> Cuz um Andrew was already on the phone
  869. 24:29with 911.
  870. 24:30>> Okay. And what did you tell her?
  871. 24:34>> I just
  872. 24:36I
  873. 24:37made You said I made a mistake I made a
  874. 24:39mistake but like I don't
  875. 24:40>> What do you remember telling her?
  876. 24:43>> I remember just telling her I hear I
  877. 24:44heard gunshots I heard gunshots.
  878. 24:46>> Mhm.
  879. 24:47>> Like that was my first time ever being
  880. 24:48so close to gunshots.
  881. 24:50>> I don't know if that's true.
  882. 24:51I don't know if that's Did you see
  883. 24:53Andrew shoot?
  884. 24:57You didn't see him shoot?
  885. 24:58At any point did he like I'm just going
  886. 25:00to pretend this is a gun.
  887. 25:01And you're in the passenger seat and
  888. 25:04we're driving down
  889. 25:0680, let's call it.
  890. 25:08Um say I'm Andrew driving. You said his
  891. 25:12gun let's just pretend this is a gun.
  892. 25:13Don't mind me match.
  893. 25:14>> I was sorry.
  894. 25:15>> You said his gun was in in his pocket.
  895. 25:18>> Uh I think so.
  896. 25:19>> Okay. At any point did he say [ __ ] you
  897. 25:21Kirk or pull it out or anything like
  898. 25:22this to you?
  899. 25:25>> No comment.
  900. 25:27>> No comment?
  901. 25:29Okay.
  902. 25:30But you mentioned that you didn't see
  903. 25:31Andrew shoot, right?
  904. 25:33That's what you told me.
  905. 25:34>> All right.
  906. 25:35>> So
  907. 25:37did you see Chris do anything? Chris is
  908. 25:39is is sitting behind you. Did you see
  909. 25:41him do anything at all?
  910. 25:44>> Um he just kept like tapping on my
  911. 25:46shoulder.
  912. 25:47>> Okay.
  913. 25:48>> Like
  914. 25:49no a few like laying on your shoulders
  915. 25:51and [ __ ]
  916. 25:52>> What was he saying?
  917. 25:54>> Oh I'm mad. He was drinking some cactus
  918. 25:56drink. Oh this [ __ ] tastes good or
  919. 25:58whatever.
  920. 26:00>> Did he say anything else to you? Did he
  921. 26:03promise you a job? Did he promise you
  922. 26:04that he would um
  923. 26:06hook you up with some type of
  924. 26:07painting job or anything like that?
  925. 26:10No?
  926. 26:10Okay. That's just something he mentioned
  927. 26:12that uh
  928. 26:13they're going to try to get you a job.
  929. 26:16No?
  930. 26:18>> Oh Andrew? No. Well
  931. 26:23>> The dude, the guy in the back.
  932. 26:24What's he supposed to try to get you a
  933. 26:25job?
  934. 26:26>> Oh no. Me and Andrew were talking
  935. 26:28earlier
  936. 26:28>> Oh I got you. Maybe I got that mixed up.
  937. 26:30>> Uh that's fine. He said um
  938. 26:33like earlier in the day that some of his
  939. 26:34painting buddies was hiring or
  940. 26:36something.
  941. 26:36>> Got you. Okay.
  942. 26:38So Odyssey, let's play deductive
  943. 26:40reasoning here. It's your gun. It's on
  944. 26:42the dashboard in front of you. You're
  945. 26:44driving back from Bell Blade. Chris
  946. 26:46isn't doing anything to you other than
  947. 26:47you said tapping you on your shoulder
  948. 26:48talking about this drink is good. Andrew
  949. 26:50isn't doing nothing.
  950. 26:51And he's driving. He's pretty occupied
  951. 26:53with the truck trying not to make a
  952. 26:54crash and get to the house safe.
  953. 26:58How did that shooting happen?
  954. 27:00>> I don't know.
  955. 27:01>> You keep telling me you don't know, but
  956. 27:03everything's pointing to you shooting.
  957. 27:06Do you understand what I'm saying?
  958. 27:08>> I didn't do it.
  959. 27:09>> You didn't do it.
  960. 27:15Andrew didn't shoot.
  961. 27:20There was a
  962. 27:21You know the headrest?
  963. 27:23>> Right.
  964. 27:23>> Mhm. There's a bullet holes in the
  965. 27:25headrest behind you.
  966. 27:29And you mentioned that you heard
  967. 27:31gunshots in your left ear.
  968. 27:34Based on how you would be sitting in the
  969. 27:36car,
  970. 27:38Okay.
  971. 27:39The
  972. 27:41defects, let's call it that, from the
  973. 27:43bullets are on this side.
  974. 27:45Okay? And I know during our conversation
  975. 27:48you mentioned you're right-handed,
  976. 27:51right? Right. So, it would only make
  977. 27:53sense scientifically um
  978. 27:56that
  979. 27:59when you demonstrated, this is your
  980. 28:00demonstration as I was watching you,
  981. 28:02turn this way
  982. 28:03and fire behind you.
  983. 28:05Do you remember that?
  984. 28:07So, how did the defects get in your
  985. 28:09headrest?
  986. 28:12>> I don't even know. I don't know.
  987. 28:13>> I mean, I I need an explanation for it
  988. 28:15because
  989. 28:18some somebody's dead, Kurt.
  990. 28:22>> I don't even know.
  991. 28:25>> Anything, any explanation.
  992. 28:28>> I can't say. I think I passed out.
  993. 28:31>> Okay. Has it happened before?
  994. 28:33How many times?
  995. 28:38>> About four times.
  996. 28:40>> Today?
  997. 28:41>> No, no, no.
  998. 28:42>> Oh, okay. In your In your whole life?
  999. 28:43Okay.
  1000. 28:44Um when was the last time?
  1001. 28:48>> Maybe
  1002. 28:49like right after I graduated high
  1003. 28:51school, so like 2017.
  1004. 28:53>> Not right after the graduation, but
  1005. 28:54right after
  1006. 28:55>> No,
  1007. 28:55a couple months after the graduation, I
  1008. 28:57think.
  1009. 28:58>> Okay, do you have any medical history of
  1010. 29:00epilepsy like you mentioned?
  1011. 29:02>> Yeah.
  1012. 29:03>> Okay, meaning have you been to the
  1013. 29:04doctor for it?
  1014. 29:09>> When I was a kid, they put me in the
  1015. 29:11hospital for like a week, but they
  1016. 29:12didn't
  1017. 29:13come up with a cure or whatever.
  1018. 29:15>> Okay, are you taking any medications?
  1019. 29:19>> I don't remember the names of them. I
  1020. 29:20just got put on new medication last
  1021. 29:22month.
  1022. 29:23>> Last month? Okay, have you been taking
  1023. 29:24them?
  1024. 29:25>> Mhm.
  1025. 29:26>> Okay, how many how many are you supposed
  1026. 29:27to take?
  1027. 29:29>> It's like one a day of each one. There's
  1028. 29:31three of them.
  1029. 29:33>> It's three?
  1030. 29:34>> Yeah, there's three
  1031. 29:34>> Three bottles or three pills?
  1032. 29:36>> Yeah, three pills of one from each.
  1033. 29:38>> Oh, I got you.
  1034. 29:41>> I don't know what they're called.
  1035. 29:42>> Um, do you know the name of any of them?
  1036. 29:45>> Wellbutrin is one of them.
  1037. 29:47>> Wellbutrin?
  1038. 29:48>> Wellbutrin.
  1039. 29:49>> Wellbutrin.
  1040. 29:51>> I can't remember the name of the other
  1041. 29:53two.
  1042. 29:55>> All right. And you took them today?
  1043. 29:58>> No, yesterday.
  1044. 29:59>> Okay.
  1045. 30:02And you said you
  1046. 30:03Is it it's Do you have epilepsy?
  1047. 30:06Is this something you have?
  1048. 30:08>> with it, but I know what it's I know
  1049. 30:09like
  1050. 30:11They say people that have seizures and
  1051. 30:12like tap out not tap out, but like pass.
  1052. 30:15I don't think that type of sign I did.
  1053. 30:17>> Okay.
  1054. 30:19And have you been diagnosed with uh,
  1055. 30:21seizures before or
  1056. 30:23>> No, but I've I've had them.
  1057. 30:26>> Okay, what what is that like for you
  1058. 30:28when you have these seizures?
  1059. 30:30>> Scary.
  1060. 30:31>> Okay, what actually is happening to your
  1061. 30:33body?
  1062. 30:34>> I feel like I don't even remember. I
  1063. 30:35feel like that's why my mouth is so dry
  1064. 30:36right now.
  1065. 30:37>> Okay, is that an indicator that you want
  1066. 30:39more water?
  1067. 30:40>> Yes, please.
  1068. 30:41>> Give me one second, all right?
  1069. 30:42>> Thank you so much. You got it.
  1070. 30:44Actually, I'll bring you some new coffee
  1071. 30:46if you want.
  1072. 30:46You want me to get you one? I'm sorry,
  1073. 30:48you bring me one. Thank you. All right,
  1074. 30:50I got you. Give me one second, all
  1075. 30:51right? Thank you.
  1076. 31:04All right.
  1077. 31:05Let me get you that water. Yeah. All
  1078. 31:07right.
  1079. 31:08So, let me ask you something.
  1080. 31:11Uh
  1081. 31:12describe your gun for me.
  1082. 31:15It's a little uh
  1083. 31:18.45 Mhm.
  1084. 31:21What else do you know about it?
  1085. 31:23.45 ACP. That's it. That's all I know.
  1086. 31:26What What color is it? I'm sorry.
  1087. 31:28Um
  1088. 31:30tan.
  1089. 31:31Okay.
  1090. 31:32Any other colors on there?
  1091. 31:35No. And how many times have you shot
  1092. 31:37that gun?
  1093. 31:40Probably never.
  1094. 31:41You've never shot it?
  1095. 31:44Before today? Oh, um I went to the gun
  1096. 31:47range with my sister's boyfriend.
  1097. 31:49Like
  1098. 31:51maybe
  1099. 31:52two or three days after I got it.
  1100. 31:54In January?
  1101. 31:56If it was January, I think. Okay.
  1102. 31:59I honestly don't remember when I bought
  1103. 32:01it. I just
  1104. 32:02remember
  1105. 32:04my two guns got robbed from my house
  1106. 32:06Mhm.
  1107. 32:06at this when I was in Disney World. And
  1108. 32:08then I think it was like a couple days
  1109. 32:10after that I bought it.
  1110. 32:12Okay. So, you only shot it once. You
  1111. 32:14said you went with your sister's
  1112. 32:15boyfriend to the gun range? Yeah. Which
  1113. 32:17gun range?
  1114. 32:18Uh Shoot Straight. Okay.
  1115. 32:20Where'd you buy it?
  1116. 32:22Or where'd you get it? I think at the
  1117. 32:23pawn shop. Which one?
  1118. 32:26Um
  1119. 32:28the one down there on Okeechobee.
  1120. 32:36I don't remember the name of
  1121. 32:38>> Is it um um
  1122. 32:41across from the turnpike?
  1123. 32:43Yeah, you got You know where you guys
  1124. 32:44sit under that big tree sometimes?
  1125. 32:46>> Mhm.
  1126. 32:47>> And then it's past that
  1127. 32:49uh one rental place.
  1128. 32:51>> Mhm.
  1129. 32:52>> And it's right there. I forgot what the
  1130. 32:53town was called.
  1131. 32:54>> All right. So, 45 ACP 10 is the same gun
  1132. 32:58that we have inside Andrew's truck,
  1133. 33:01right? That I said that was in front of
  1134. 33:03you on the dash.
  1135. 33:04Um where did Where did you keep it with
  1136. 33:06you?
  1137. 33:08Where do you usually keep it? Do you
  1138. 33:09have a holster for it?
  1139. 33:10>> Yeah.
  1140. 33:11>> Okay.
  1141. 33:13>> Oh, wait.
  1142. 33:14>> Did they Did they take it?
  1143. 33:15>> I think yeah. I think so.
  1144. 33:18>> Okay, so you usually keep it You You
  1145. 33:20point it to your right pocket?
  1146. 33:21>> Okay.
  1147. 33:22Outside or inside?
  1148. 33:24>> Inside.
  1149. 33:24>> Inside. Okay, so the holster that you
  1150. 33:27that Did you have it in a holster today?
  1151. 33:29>> Yeah.
  1152. 33:29>> Okay. Do you always keep it in a
  1153. 33:30holster?
  1154. 33:31>> Yeah.
  1155. 33:31>> Okay. Um so, you had it on you today
  1156. 33:35inside your pant pocket.
  1157. 33:37>> Yes.
  1158. 33:37>> Front right pocket.
  1159. 33:38>> Mhm.
  1160. 33:39>> Okay.
  1161. 33:40Um
  1162. 33:41So, how did How did it end up on the
  1163. 33:42dashboard?
  1164. 33:46>> And when I woke up
  1165. 33:48I set it there.
  1166. 33:49And I just
  1167. 33:51asked Andrew what the [ __ ] just
  1168. 33:52happened.
  1169. 33:53>> Mhm.
  1170. 33:54>> And that's it.
  1171. 33:55>> Okay, cuz you you you have to understand
  1172. 33:57the severity of what's going on. Cuz you
  1173. 33:59keep telling me that's it. That's it.
  1174. 34:01That's not it because there's obviously
  1175. 34:03something that's not making sense.
  1176. 34:05Okay? Which is it's your gun.
  1177. 34:09There's casings in the car from a 45.
  1178. 34:12Okay? 45 spent casings in the car. You
  1179. 34:15know what those are, right?
  1180. 34:17The bullets.
  1181. 34:17>> Right.
  1182. 34:18>> Okay. The spent casings are in the car.
  1183. 34:20There's a defect where you were sitting
  1184. 34:23on the left side of your head.
  1185. 34:24>> I think that was already there.
  1186. 34:26>> The The defect?
  1187. 34:27>> Yeah, literally looks like a bullet hole
  1188. 34:29wound, but like nothing's inside it.
  1189. 34:32>> Oh, we will we're going to find that
  1190. 34:33out.
  1191. 34:34>> No, what I'm saying, that should have
  1192. 34:36been there before. Like, I don't
  1193. 34:38wouldn't that I think the bullet would
  1194. 34:40would have went all the way through it,
  1195. 34:41right?
  1196. 34:42>> It did.
  1197. 34:43>> All the way through the headrest?
  1198. 34:45>> Mhm. Which is right Chris?
  1199. 34:47On your side of the truck.
  1200. 34:51>> I don't remember.
  1201. 34:53>> So,
  1202. 34:55how did you get it out your pocket?
  1203. 34:59>> I don't remember.
  1204. 35:01>> Cuz you had it in your pocket.
  1205. 35:03>> Right.
  1206. 35:04>> And it ended up on the dashboard.
  1207. 35:07>> Right.
  1208. 35:07>> And you heard gunshots.
  1209. 35:13I need that explained, Kurt.
  1210. 35:15>> I don't know.
  1211. 35:16>> I need to understand what happened
  1212. 35:18in that car.
  1213. 35:21>> I I honestly don't remember.
  1214. 35:31I honestly don't remember.
  1215. 35:33>> What do you remember? What What
  1216. 35:34triggered you to pull that gun out?
  1217. 35:39>> I don't know.
  1218. 35:42Voices in my head.
  1219. 35:43>> What voices?
  1220. 35:45>> I don't know.
  1221. 35:46Voices in my head, I'm not sure.
  1222. 35:48>> What
  1223. 35:50What are these voices saying?
  1224. 35:53>> Nothing. It was I just had it out.
  1225. 35:55>> You just had what out?
  1226. 35:56>> The gun.
  1227. 35:57>> Why did you have it out?
  1228. 36:00>> I just had it out on the dash.
  1229. 36:02>> Okay.
  1230. 36:04Um
  1231. 36:04so, the gun has no bullets in it.
  1232. 36:06>> Right.
  1233. 36:07>> So, the gun that you had out on the dash
  1234. 36:10has no bullets in it.
  1235. 36:12How is that possible without it being
  1236. 36:14fired?
  1237. 36:16>> I don't know. I did.
  1238. 36:18>> You tell me. You shot at the gun range,
  1239. 36:19so you understand how that works. You
  1240. 36:21have to understand how that works.
  1241. 36:22>> Right.
  1242. 36:23>> How does it work?
  1243. 36:25>> Someone shot it. I'm not sure who.
  1244. 36:29>> You can't
  1245. 36:30>> me, right?
  1246. 36:30>> No.
  1247. 36:34>> You had the gun on the way to Bell Blvd.
  1248. 36:36>> Right.
  1249. 36:37>> In your front right pocket.
  1250. 36:39>> Right.
  1251. 36:41>> You took it out on the way back home.
  1252. 36:44>> Right.
  1253. 36:46>> It was fired.
  1254. 36:49Cuz I remember I told you I got spent
  1255. 36:50casings in the car. It was fired.
  1256. 36:53And you told me you heard gunshots.
  1257. 36:55Remember?
  1258. 36:56>> Yeah.
  1259. 36:56>> And you said your ear was ringing as
  1260. 36:58soon as I walked in here.
  1261. 36:59>> Right.
  1262. 37:00>> This is dead.
  1263. 37:04And the gun ends up on the dashboard.
  1264. 37:10>> I don't remember. I guess
  1265. 37:12>> What what triggered you at that at that
  1266. 37:14point?
  1267. 37:17>> I don't remember.
  1268. 37:18>> You have to remember. You keep saying
  1269. 37:19you don't remember. What do you mean you
  1270. 37:21don't remember?
  1271. 37:22Because something like that, you will
  1272. 37:24remember.
  1273. 37:29>> I don't know.
  1274. 37:31>> Did you not like the guy?
  1275. 37:33>> I I just met him. I don't I don't even
  1276. 37:35know who he was.
  1277. 37:36>> So, why'd you shoot him?
  1278. 37:38>> I didn't shoot him.
  1279. 37:41I didn't shoot him.
  1280. 37:42>> Who shot him?
  1281. 37:44>> I don't know.
  1282. 37:50>> Do you understand what I'm what I'm
  1283. 37:51explaining to you?
  1284. 37:52>> Right.
  1285. 37:53>> Everything that I've that I mentioned?
  1286. 37:56What the evidence is showing on scene?
  1287. 38:00>> Right.
  1288. 38:01>> What do you mean right? What am I
  1289. 38:02saying?
  1290. 38:03>> You said the evidence on scene.
  1291. 38:05>> Yeah, the casings.
  1292. 38:07The the blood in the car.
  1293. 38:08The defect in the headrest.
  1294. 38:11The fact that it's your gun.
  1295. 38:13The fact that Andrew never touched your
  1296. 38:15gun.
  1297. 38:15>> Right.
  1298. 38:16>> The fact that there's .45 caliber
  1299. 38:18casings in the car.
  1300. 38:22>> I I don't know.
  1301. 38:25>> What would your mom think right now?
  1302. 38:37Are you and her close?
  1303. 38:39Or are you and your dad close? Or both?
  1304. 38:42>> Close with both of them, but I'm closer
  1305. 38:43with my mom.
  1306. 38:44>> Is that why you called her first?
  1307. 38:47Did you call your dad at all?
  1308. 38:49What would he say?
  1309. 38:54>> I don't know what my mom would say.
  1310. 38:56>> What happened?
  1311. 38:57>> He wouldn't know what to say.
  1312. 38:58>> Why you say that?
  1313. 39:01What do you know?
  1314. 39:02>> Cuz this is my first time being being
  1315. 39:03locked up.
  1316. 39:04>> You've never been arrested before,
  1317. 39:06nothing like that?
  1318. 39:09No. So, why today?
  1319. 39:11>> I have no idea.
  1320. 39:13>> Did Did something to you at all?
  1321. 39:16>> Nothing that I remember.
  1322. 39:17>> So, why not shoot Andrew?
  1323. 39:22Why shoot
  1324. 39:25Was he provoking you? Did he tell you
  1325. 39:27something? Did he say something?
  1326. 39:31>> Nothing that I remember.
  1327. 39:37>> Is it that you don't want to remember?
  1328. 39:40>> No.
  1329. 39:42I Like I said, I passed out.
  1330. 39:44>> When you say you passed out, explain
  1331. 39:46that to me.
  1332. 39:47What's the last thing you do remember?
  1333. 39:49Cuz I mentioned
  1334. 39:50>> Hearing gunshots.
  1335. 39:51>> That's the last thing you remember?
  1336. 39:54You don't remember Do you remember
  1337. 39:55pulling it out of your out of your back
  1338. 39:56pocket?
  1339. 39:57>> That was only when I left the house. It
  1340. 39:59was already on the dash before that.
  1341. 40:01>> What do you What do you mean?
  1342. 40:02>> Like when we had left the house from
  1343. 40:03Berkeley.
  1344. 40:04>> Mhm.
  1345. 40:05>> It was already on the dash.
  1346. 40:07>> But the gun was empty and there's
  1347. 40:08casings in the car.
  1348. 40:10>> Right.
  1349. 40:10>> So, the shooting happened in the car.
  1350. 40:12So, it couldn't have happened
  1351. 40:14in in in Berkeley Glade you're are
  1352. 40:16>> Right. It couldn't have happened in
  1353. 40:17Belle Glade.
  1354. 40:18>> No.
  1355. 40:18>> Right.
  1356. 40:19>> So,
  1357. 40:22what happened?
  1358. 40:23>> I don't know.
  1359. 40:27>> So, you remember hearing gunshots.
  1360. 40:30You remember pulling the the
  1361. 40:32gun out of your pocket.
  1362. 40:36>> When we left the house.
  1363. 40:39>> Okay. So, the gun was out of your pocket
  1364. 40:40when you left the house.
  1365. 40:41>> Yeah.
  1366. 40:43>> And where did you put it?
  1367. 40:45>> On the dash.
  1368. 40:46>> So, as you're driving from Belle Glade,
  1369. 40:48the gun is on the dash.
  1370. 40:50I thought you said the gun was
  1371. 40:51originally in your pocket.
  1372. 40:52>> On the way to Belle Glade.
  1373. 40:53>> So, you put it on the Why did you take
  1374. 40:55it out?
  1375. 40:56>> I don't know. I guess just cuz we were
  1376. 40:58in Belle Glade. We were in the hood, I
  1377. 40:59guess.
  1378. 41:00>> Okay. And
  1379. 41:03that's that's not making sense to me.
  1380. 41:07>> I don't know.
  1381. 41:09If somebody just had to plead the fifth
  1382. 41:10on the rest of them.
  1383. 41:11>> What do you mean by that?
  1384. 41:13>> I just guess I ain't lying. It's not my
  1385. 41:15question.
  1386. 41:17>> Is that what you're choosing to do is
  1387. 41:18what you're saying?
  1388. 41:19Okay.
  1389. 41:21You understand what you're being charged
  1390. 41:22with?
  1391. 41:24Murder.
  1392. 41:42All right. Let me first stand up for me.
  1393. 41:45I'm going to write some quick form for
  1394. 41:47me. I told you.
  1395. 41:48>> I think 5 10.
  1396. 41:49>> That's my height. Stand up right here
  1397. 41:51for me.
  1398. 41:52Are you hurt?
  1399. 41:53>> No.
  1400. 41:54>> No? No injuries? Nothing?
  1401. 41:58All right. Look right here for me, okay?
  1402. 42:02Turn that way.
  1403. 42:08Face the uh board there.
  1404. 42:11I'm going to take off this again.
  1405. 42:15Don't fan.
  1406. 42:19All right, face the door here.
  1407. 42:25All right, do me a favor. Um hands.
  1408. 42:27Yeah, turn towards me.
  1409. 42:29>> [snorts]
  1410. 42:32>> Now, palms down.
  1411. 42:39There.
  1412. 42:43Let me see your tattoos.
  1413. 42:46Keep your arm extended like this as much
  1414. 42:47as you can.
  1415. 42:53Turn them inside out.
  1416. 42:55We'll see. We'll see.
  1417. 42:57>> Um plastic bag.
  1418. 43:04>> And what's this one? All right, raise it
  1419. 43:05up if you don't mind.
  1420. 43:06>> Mhm.
  1421. 43:11>> What's NLB?
  1422. 43:12>> NLMB?
  1423. 43:13>> NLMB is from the block.
  1424. 43:14>> Never seen my brother.
  1425. 43:16>> Oh, you have a sibling?
  1426. 43:18What are you talking about?
  1427. 43:20>> Yeah, I got a older brother.
  1428. 43:21>> Oh, congrats to you. Do you have any
  1429. 43:22tattoos on your chest or anything like
  1430. 43:24that?
  1431. 43:24>> Yeah.
  1432. 43:25>> All right, try to try to lift up your
  1433. 43:26shirt for me.
  1434. 43:28>> [snorts]
  1435. 43:31>> What is it?
  1436. 43:34Try to You might have to get it over
  1437. 43:35your head.
  1438. 43:40Anything on your back?
  1439. 43:41>> No.
  1440. 43:42>> All right, you can put your shirt down.
  1441. 43:44Anything on your legs?
  1442. 43:45>> No.
  1443. 43:45>> Can you turn around real quick so I can
  1444. 43:47just pull them up for your shirt a
  1445. 43:48little bit like that?
  1446. 43:49>> No, nothing on his back.
  1447. 43:51>> Let's take this 60 out. All right, let's
  1448. 43:52take it off out.
  1449. 43:53>> Yeah.
  1450. 43:57>> No injuries on your back, nothing like
  1451. 43:58that, bro?
  1452. 43:59>> No, sir.
  1453. 44:00>> All right, buddy.
  1454. 44:04You got it.
  1455. 44:05>> Okay.
  1456. 44:05>> No injuries on your feet, legs, nothing
  1457. 44:07like that, bro?
  1458. 44:07>> No, sir.
  1459. 44:07>> Okay. All right, turn around real quick.
  1460. 44:14All right, take that. That's it.
  1461. 44:16>> Let me get one with your head off.
  1462. 44:20And turn that way.
  1463. 44:27Turn toward the board.
  1464. 44:31And lastly, turn toward the door.
  1465. 44:37All right.
  1466. 44:38You can have a seat.
  1467. 44:40What is your full social security
  1468. 44:42number?
  1469. 44:50All right, give me a minute.
  1470. 44:53Hold that door.
  1471. 45:00Got a photo of you.
  1472. 45:06Agent, real quick, could you initial and
  1473. 45:08verify this sign here stating that this
  1474. 45:10is what I read to you?
  1475. 45:11>> Okay.
  1476. 45:12>> Um
  1477. 45:13and I'll
  1478. 45:14right here.
  1479. 45:17This is the um Miranda card I read to
  1480. 45:18you with those rights.
  1481. 45:23And we should be out of here in less
  1482. 45:24than 10 minutes.
  1483. 45:25>> All right.
  1484. 45:29What's that?
  1485. 45:32721
  1486. 45:352309
  1487. 45:37>> All right, thank you.
  1488. 45:42Oh.
  1489. 45:44All right, you can stand up here as
  1490. 45:45well.
  1491. 45:48Come on, this one. This is the first
  1492. 45:49one. It's going to be the same.
  1493. 45:52All right.
  1494. 45:55>> Following the interrogation, Coakley
  1495. 45:58Evan Ledlow was charged with
  1496. 45:59first-degree murder and firing a gun
  1497. 46:02from a vehicle in the death of
  1498. 46:04Christopher Sean [music] Rogers.
  1499. 46:06As the case moved toward trial, Leto's
  1500. 46:09mental health became a central issue.
  1501. 46:11He was diagnosed with schizoaffective
  1502. 46:13[music]
  1503. 46:13disorder, and his attorneys argued that
  1504. 46:16he was legally insane when he shot
  1505. 46:18Christopher.
  1506. 46:19Prosecutors maintained that his actions
  1507. 46:21were deliberate, and that his mental
  1508. 46:23illness did not excuse the killing.
  1509. 46:26On April 25th, 2025,
  1510. 46:29>> [music]
  1511. 46:29>> a Palm Beach County jury rejected his
  1512. 46:32insanity defense and found him guilty of
  1513. 46:35second-degree murder with a firearm.
  1514. 46:38At his sentencing [music] hearing, Leto
  1515. 46:40apologized to Christopher's family.
  1516. 46:42Christopher's sister, Courtney Rogers,
  1517. 46:45>> [music]
  1518. 46:45>> spoke about her brother's kindness and
  1519. 46:47generosity, describing how he regularly
  1520. 46:50went out of his way to help others.
  1521. 46:51[music]
  1522. 46:53Despite what had happened, she told the
  1523. 46:55court that she forgave Leto.
  1524. 46:58On July 9th, 2025,
  1525. 47:01Leto was sentenced to 40 [music] years
  1526. 47:03in prison, including a mandatory minimum
  1527. 47:06of 25 years that must be served without
  1528. 47:09any reduction for good behavior.
  1529. 47:11Leto appealed his conviction, [music]
  1530. 47:13but on August 6th, 2026,
  1531. 47:17Florida's [music] Fourth District Court
  1532. 47:18of Appeal upheld the ruling.
  1533. 47:21As of October 2026, [music]
  1534. 47:24Leto remains under a 40-year prison
  1535. 47:26sentence for Christopher's murder.
  1536. 47:29If you found this video informative,
  1537. 47:31please consider leaving a like and
  1538. 47:33subscribing to the channel, as it really
  1539. 47:35helps support our work and allows us to
  1540. 47:37continue covering important cases like
  1541. 47:39this one. Thank you.

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