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0:00So,
0:01you're going to have a problem. And I'm
0:04just being honest with you, cuz you are
0:07being charged with that shooting.
0:15>> On March 16th, 2023,
0:18drivers near North Main Street and
0:20Street in Providence, Rhode Island,
0:23found themselves caught in the middle of
0:24a shooting. According to investigators,
0:27a white SUV was traveling south in the
0:30northbound lanes while shots were fired
0:33toward a blue SUV, but the gunfire also
0:36struck a passing car whose driver had
0:39nothing to do with the dispute. Police
0:41found three 40mm caliber shell casings
0:44in the road. The shooting came just days
0:47after another attack tied to a
0:50long-running conflict between the Chad
0:52Brown gang and YNIC, a rival gang from
0:56Providence's East Side. As detectives
0:59investigated, their attention turned to
1:01a man named Nefali Sanchez. A search of
1:05his apartment uncovered firearms, drugs,
1:08and cell phones. On one of those phones,
1:11investigators found messages connecting
1:14Sanchez to a 19-year-old named Isaiah
1:17Isum and discussing the March 16th
1:20shooting. Months later, on September
1:2212th, detectives arrested Isaiah. They
1:26believed he had been inside the white
1:28SUV, and Providence police detectives
1:30were preparing to question him about
1:32what happened. This is the interrogation
1:35of Isaiah is
1:42just sitting that far seat, bro. You
1:44want water or something?
1:46>> No, I'm sorry.
1:47>> You good?
1:48>> Yeah, I'm just looking straight.
1:50Finally, son comfortable. Damn.
1:52>> Two seconds, right, my man?
1:54>> Yeah.
1:59>> Don't worry, the informant's name is not
2:00in there.
2:01>> Oh, yeah. Just don't for I'll tell you
2:04all the [ __ ] [ __ ] I don't play the
2:05games.
2:06>> Yeah, I want to hear it. I'll put it all
2:07out. I'm lost right now.
2:09>> I'll be 100%. Straight up.
2:12>> I seen you around, right?
2:14>> Yeah.
2:15>> Yeah.
2:16>> Jump off
2:17>> and the Ultima. No, I didn't see you in
2:20that Ultima.
2:20>> No,
2:23guys.
2:23>> Oh, I think it's Mclofflin.
2:26>> McKenna.
2:27>> I don't know. I They say something. His
2:29name's something like that.
2:30>> Mcloin.
2:30>> Mcloin. There it is. That's you.
2:33>> That's me.
2:33>> What the [ __ ]
2:35>> That's me, bro.
2:37>> Have my people mixed up.
2:44[ __ ]
2:45All right, bro. Uh,
2:48I didn't do no crime. I ain't I don't
2:50got to sign that, right?
2:51>> This right here, I'm going to explain
2:53everything to you. No,
2:55>> just hear me out. When I read it
2:56through, you signing anything on here is
2:59not an admission of any guilt at all.
3:03It's solely going to be you saying you
3:05understand what I read to you. It's not
3:07saying you're guilty of any crime. None
3:09of that [ __ ] Okay.
3:10>> All right.
3:13It's a I ah
3:15>> Yes, sir. Is I S O M.
3:19>> You related to the other isms?
3:22I'm not the whole city is of my family
3:24basically.
3:25>> Oh [ __ ]
3:26>> I know there's there's a couple in I
3:29think there's like one in one in the
3:31police force and then one in the ACI I
3:34think. No, he was in the training
3:35school. My fault.
3:36>> You related to the female is?
3:38>> Yeah, I think. I don't know. It depends
3:41what is it that it is. My sister's an
3:43ism.
3:44>> Okay.
3:53waiting for you guys all day, man. I was
3:55going crazy in that room.
3:57>> Yeah, it's been a minute.
3:58>> I was going to lose my [ __ ] Why? I I I
4:01like
4:02held myself together, man. I I got like
4:06PTSD, bro. I can't be I don't I don't
4:10know.
4:12At least walk back and forth down the
4:14hall. That's what I asked the cop and
4:15they're like, "Hell no." I'm like, "Oh,
4:17[ __ ]
4:25All right. Is that you graduated high
4:27school?
4:27>> Yes, sir.
4:28>> So, you can read and write English.
4:29Yeah. Understand it?
4:30>> Yeah.
4:31>> I'm going to read these out to you
4:32anyway. All right. I have the right to
4:34remain silent. I do not have to give a
4:36statement or answer any questions. If I
4:38give up my right to remain silent,
4:40anything I say can and will be used
4:41against me in a court of law.
4:43I have the right to the presence of a of
4:46an attorney and to talk with an attorney
4:48before and during my questioning. If I
4:51cannot afford an attorney and I would
4:53like one, an attorney will be appointed
4:55to me at no cost to me before any
4:57questioning. If I do talk to the police,
4:59I can stop at any time and the police
5:01have made no threats or promises to me.
5:03Like I'm not saying, "Hey, if you tell
5:04us a, b, and c, we do this, blah, blah,
5:06blah." You understand that? Again, I
5:08want to reiterate
5:10you signing anything on here is not any
5:13admission of guilt whatsoever. It's
5:15simply saying you understand what I read
5:17to you and what is on the paper. Okay.
5:19>> Okay.
5:27I have to put my address, right? Yeah.
5:30Well, I'm homeless, but I was right
5:31there sleeping on the couch right there.
5:33I think that's what
5:35Yeah. 44.
5:44That's how you spell it.
5:47Yeah, the old college try.
5:50Um, and just this bro right where it
5:53says in bold if you understand what I
5:55read to you.
5:58>> What is 912? Right.
6:00>> 912. Yep. Yep.
6:01>> 1012 912
6:06>> 23
6:09>> Damn, I got caught on the 19th.
6:12>> What is that for?
6:13>> Um,
6:15not domestic.
6:16>> Domestic.
6:19>> Nothing to be proud of.
6:20>> Problem on the home front.
6:21>> Yeah, but it wasn't really like the
6:23most, you know, it's just it was an
6:25argument and then, you know, girls get
6:27loose. So she started hitting me and
6:28then I like yolked her up and then her
6:30mom came outside and like thought I was
6:32probably beating the living [ __ ] out of
6:34her.
6:34>> So her mom hit me in the back of the
6:36head and then a whole bunch of other
6:37[ __ ]
6:37>> How long ago was that?
6:39>> Uh a couple months ago. Like a month
6:40ago.
6:41>> Yeah.
6:42>> Was she living there or something?
6:44>> No. No.
6:45>> Bouncing back and forth.
6:47>> No, I actually pulled up on her right in
6:49front of her house. I pulled up right
6:50next to her.
6:52>> Is that your girl and Chad?
6:53>> Yeah. How you know?
6:57Don't you know? Huh?
6:58>> Uh,
6:59>> we'll get into all that.
7:00>> Uh, I'm not ready for this.
7:04>> Like I said, man, I ain't going to play
7:05I ain't going to play games.
7:06>> You know what I mean? I I don't
7:08>> I'm sure, like you said, you heard about
7:09me around the hood. I'm a straight
7:11shooter. I'm not a [ __ ] about [ __ ]
7:13It is what it is. The game's the game.
7:14The streets are the streets.
7:15>> Keep it like that. I'm not going to sit
7:17here and and be an [ __ ] or treat you
7:19like [ __ ] It ain't personal. Just a
7:21game. All right. I know.
7:23>> I mean, [ __ ] I I'm not really into the
7:25game. I'm just
7:28was born in the wrong neighborhood.
7:29>> No. Hey, my man. I'm holding up.
7:31>> I can't break out of it. I've been
7:33trying to break out of this so long. No.
7:35[ __ ] I can't. I don't got no family to
7:37go nowhere. The only family I got is the
7:39lady I'm living with. That's not even my
7:41family.
7:42>> That's just like my cousin.
7:45I look at
7:45>> She said they've known you for a long
7:46time. She said they've known you for a
7:48long time.
7:48>> Yeah. She raised She watched me grow up.
7:50She knows my mom and [ __ ] So,
7:51>> yeah. She seen me on the streets
7:53sleeping on on in the park right there
7:55in Ammo Terren right next to the
7:56graveyard. She literally seen me
7:58sleeping in the park on the benches and
8:00took me in ever since. So
8:04>> So all I was going to say, so my name's
8:06AJ. I'm an ATF agent.
8:08>> Yep. And I'm Mike Carpenter with the
8:11ATF.
8:12>> So we work together with Matt. He works
8:16with us. We work with him. So that's why
8:19we're all here together. That's why
8:20there's three of us.
8:23basically my man. Uh all the [ __ ] going
8:26on in the city, all the violence, all
8:29the back and forth, the feuds, you know,
8:30the beefs, this and that.
8:33>> That's kind of what draws the attention.
8:35You know, two homicides in Chad.
8:37>> That was my
8:39>> people. And he was not even in nothing.
8:43>> He was literally not even in nothing.
8:46>> [ __ ] It hurts, bro. It hurts, bro. It
8:49hurts. So you don't have
8:50>> And honestly, man, respectfully, I'm
8:52sorry for your loss. You got to realize
8:54that
8:56I I know you don't want to be sitting
8:58here today, but this is this is what
9:01we're trying to [ __ ] stop, man.
9:03>> Prevent from all this [ __ ] from
9:04happening. You're sitting here. How old
9:06are you?
9:06>> Just turned 18.
9:07>> Just turned 18. You're sitting here
9:09telling me you have no other [ __ ]
9:10shot,
9:11>> right?
9:11>> No, I don't.
9:12>> That's what you're sitting here telling
9:13me.
9:13>> It's not like I don't have like It's
9:16just I don't have nowhere to be, you
9:18know? some, you know, I don't have no
9:19support. I'm by myself. I've been by
9:21myself since I was like 12. You know,
9:23>> my mom is in PR and, you know, she's
9:25struggling out there. So, I'm struggling
9:27to help my mom and my brother's in jail.
9:29My sister's a nobody. You know,
9:32>> you're struggling.
9:33>> I'm trying. I'm not struggling cuz I got
9:36it, you know. I We're men, you know.
9:37We're going to do it regardless.
9:39>> Oh, yeah. I get that. I get that. I'm
9:40saying just putting it all together.
9:42It's an uphill battle.
9:43>> Putting my life together, you know.
9:44>> I hear it.
9:46But what you got to realize is that like
9:48he said, so we're like none of us know
9:52you, right? So no, no, nobody's judging
9:54you. We're all here to just But the
9:58violence that's been going on,
10:01that's ultimately what brought us to
10:02your door today. And I think if you
10:05think about it,
10:06>> No, I actually was thinking about it.
10:08I'm like, what the [ __ ] The only thing
10:11I could think of is when the Providence
10:14arrested me for for for uh a stolen
10:17motor vehicle that I was next to. I was
10:19walking by it and then they picked me
10:21up, but then I didn't do nothing. I
10:22didn't even know the [ __ ] car was
10:23stolen and I was walking down the
10:24street.
10:25>> When was that?
10:25>> And uh say it was like a couple weeks
10:28ago and then I told them where I lived.
10:31So that's that's why I'm like, how the
10:33what the [ __ ] I was just literally in
10:35handcuffs not too long ago. So how the
10:37[ __ ] they kick down the door now? Like
10:39>> you're talking about the uh the morning
10:41thing?
10:42>> The morning thing?
10:43>> It was in the morning, right? Uh, no. It
10:45was daytime.
10:46>> Yeah, like like earlier in the day,
10:48right?
10:49>> Probably. Yeah, probably. Yeah, cuz I
10:52literally just came outside. So, yeah.
10:54Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
10:55>> That was the [ __ ] with all the jumps
10:56when they had you in the [ __ ] You had a
10:57red hoodie. You had your red hoodie on
10:59that day and they had you in the back of
11:00the car. The jumps pulled up.
11:01>> Yeah.
11:01>> Yes.
11:02>> All right.
11:04I'm going to go back further. Um, how do
11:08you know, fat boy?
11:10>> I just
11:12Yeah.
11:12>> Yep.
11:14How long have you been down with Chad?
11:17>> Never.
11:18>> Let me preface that. It's not illegal to
11:21be
11:21>> I'm not a gang member, sir. I'll tell
11:23you this from the from my everything I
11:24love. I'm not.
11:25>> All right.
11:26>> It's just
11:26>> You just rep the hood you grow up in.
11:28>> No,
11:29>> you don't rep you grow up in.
11:30>> I don't rep at all. I personally don't
11:32rep
11:33>> me. I go everywhere like this.
11:36>> I'm not hard to miss. You see my big old
11:38afro and the pictures. I'm not hard to
11:40miss. I go everywhere, you know? I'm
11:42mutual with everybody. ship. Half of my
11:44family is from the east side. So, you
11:46know,
11:47>> so I don't know. It's just the people
11:49that I like grew up with.
11:51>> And you know, that's what caused me to
11:54sometimes be around them. Y
11:56>> but I will never like
11:57>> straight out rap.
11:58>> Yeah. Straight out gang bang, you know.
12:00>> But you were boys with Fat Boy.
12:02>> Not boys, but I know him, you know.
12:04>> Seen him around. Not that well. I
12:07probably smoked with him probably like
12:09once and I was probably in Chad at the
12:12basketball court in a basketball game. I
12:14remember that.
12:16>> We was all in a basketball game. Me and
12:17all fat boy was smoking and that's it.
12:22>> I've already told you I was going to be
12:24100% with you.
12:24>> Yes, sir.
12:25>> I appreciate it if you do the same for
12:27me, bro. And I'm I'm not saying that to
12:28sit here. I don't want to sit here and
12:31>> Oh, you [ __ ] me. I'm not going to be
12:32a punk about it, bro.
12:33>> I know.
12:34>> But you're way off with that. No, it's
12:36not.
12:37>> Keep in mind, you remember so he got
12:38arrested, right?
12:39>> Yeah.
12:40>> You remember when he got arrested?
12:42>> No, but back a couple months ago.
12:44>> Couple months ago. You know who arrested
12:45him?
12:45>> No,
12:46>> we did.
12:47>> Okay.
12:48>> Okay. So,
12:50think about what happens when you get
12:51arrested, right? Phone, you know, all
12:54the [ __ ] that led up to his arrest. We
12:56didn't just pick his name out of a hat
12:57either. So, what Matt's getting at is
13:00like, start again with how well you know
13:02him.
13:03>> I really don't know him like that. I
13:05swear to God, I put this on everything I
13:07love. I met him like last year, not even
13:09last year. And I put this on my dead
13:12brother's soul. Bro,
13:13>> you've been with him more than than just
13:15one time with smoke. I can tell you
13:17that. But
13:19>> messages back and forth in his phone
13:21between you and him.
13:22>> Yeah, but it wasn't like the most.
13:25>> Right. You take a ride with him every
13:26once in a while.
13:27>> Come smoke a blunt.
13:28>> Take a ride
13:30>> right over the east side.
13:32>> No.
13:33>> No. No,
13:35>> no.
13:35>> I'm just I'm just going to put it right
13:36out there, bro, cuz I don't want to beat
13:38around the bush. You know what I'm
13:39saying?
13:39>> Let's do it.
13:40>> Uh St. Patrick's Day.
13:41>> St. Patrick's Day.
13:42>> March was in March, right? Day right
13:45before St. Patrick's Day. Um
13:50so it all sparks off. Jalil gets hit
13:54after leaving Bularama.
13:55>> Mhm.
13:56>> Next morning, Nefali hops up to the
13:58east.
14:00>> But just I'm not I'm not asking you to
14:01say it. I'm I'm just telling you
14:03>> now when he
14:04>> pops up to the east
14:04>> and then I know there was camera footage
14:08on the why he got caught up cuz Jil told
14:10me that there was camera footage that's
14:12why he got caught up.
14:13>> Yeah,
14:13>> I wasn't there. I wasn't there.
14:15>> I'm not saying I am not saying that at
14:17all. Don't get it. I know but I'm just
14:20>> hops up to the east throw some rounds at
14:22some some people affiliated with the
14:24east and family.
14:26>> Okay.
14:27>> Goes right back. Um,
14:32days later,
14:34it's the 16th
14:38up to the east.
14:41>> Oh,
14:41>> shooting at an SUV.
14:43>> Fab boy,
14:44>> while in the oncoming lane of North Main
14:46Street,
14:48shooting across the median at a small
14:51blue SUV.
14:53>> Okay.
14:54>> There happens to be another car in the
14:55middle of it.
14:56>> Okay.
14:58The car that's getting shot at has its
15:00window banged out or whatever. Rounds
15:03are skipping off the car in the middle.
15:06One car peels up towards the east. The
15:09other car peels off back towards going
15:11towards like Chad.
15:13>> Okay. Any idea anything about that
15:16incident? No.
15:18>> Okay.
15:21There's direct messages between you and
15:24Fat Boy regarding the whole incident.
15:27And again, just hear me out, bro. Just
15:30hear me out. Before I go further, I just
15:32want to tell you, bro, again, I'm a
15:35straight shooter.
15:37>> Honesty goes a long way with me. And I'm
15:38not just playing games. I'm looking you
15:40in your eyes as a man right now.
15:42>> And I am, too.
15:42>> Okay.
15:46>> Be straight up, bro. Cuz everybody gets
15:48just listen. Everybody gets a bite at
15:49the apple,
15:51>> but it's one shot. And I'm I'm saying
15:54that up front, all right? because it
15:57wasn't just by chance that we went and
15:58knocked the door in today. Okay.
16:00>> So, be before you say anything else. All
16:02right. If Matt and I are going to are if
16:05we go do something together and then we
16:08talk about it,
16:10am I going to say, "Hey, Matt, I did
16:13this and then I did that and then I did
16:15this or or am I going to say, "Oh, when
16:18we did this, we should have done that.
16:20We should have chased him." You get what
16:22I'm saying? So,
16:25you're going to have a problem. And I'm
16:27just being honest with you cuz you are
16:30being charged with that shooting.
16:34>> Okay.
16:34>> From that day. That's part of the reason
16:36that you're here.
16:37>> That's great.
16:38>> The problem that you're going to have is
16:41trying to convince anybody when we show
16:44them the evidence that we have that you
16:46and Fatboy saying, "We did this. We
16:49should have done that. We we we
16:53>> Here's what I will tell you before you
16:54say.
16:54>> Do you understand what I mean though?
16:55>> No. He's not saying, "Hey, I did this."
16:58I know.
16:58>> And you say, you know,
16:59>> that's the problem you're going to have.
17:00I know. Just so you know.
17:01>> Okay. I understand.
17:02>> There's there's nobody hit.
17:04>> I understand.
17:05>> There's nobody dead.
17:06>> I already know. So
17:09>> there's room.
17:10>> There's room to get ahead of this is
17:12what I'm saying.
17:12>> Would have been in the ACI right now.
17:14So, so what I'm getting at is that
17:16there's
17:17hypothetically if you were involved and
17:20I I'm telling you I think you were I
17:22kind of know you were based on other
17:23evidence that we have, right? There's
17:25there's two ways for you to go at this
17:27point. You can sit here and say, "Nope,
17:29I wasn't involved. I wasn't involved."
17:31And when it comes to you being judged by
17:35someone else, a judge in court,
17:38the only thing that that judge has to go
17:40by is what we tell them. Here are the
17:42here are the messages. They were joking
17:44about they should have they should have
17:45chased him. They shot his wind his
17:46window out. This this that that. Right.
17:49Or you say, "Yeah, [ __ ] I made a
17:51mistake. I got in the car.
17:53>> We did this. I'm just telling you."
17:56>> That's the path that you're on.
17:57>> Yes, sir.
17:58>> You're either way, the evidence is the
18:00evidence, right? The benefit that you
18:02have right now is that you get to tell
18:04your side of it because maybe it's not
18:06as bad as it sounds because to me, if
18:08I'm a judge in this city and kids are
18:10getting smoked left and right on the
18:11east side in Chad, kids are getting
18:13murdered in Chad and I see a kid and we
18:16bring in that evidence to show that you
18:17were in the car and you're shooting a
18:21gun across lanes of traffic into another
18:23car, they're going to smoke you. Okay?
18:27And the only way for you to get ahead of
18:29that is to
18:32have your side of the story come out.
18:34>> But like what's my side of the I'm
18:36telling you guys that I was not in that
18:37card. Yeah. We talked about it. Yeah.
18:40You guys seen the messages. He sent me
18:42the article and we have had
18:43conversations in person about it. Yes.
18:46And you guys seen in the messages. It
18:47literally if you see the messages, it
18:50shows he sent me the article and then I
18:52was talking to him. That's it.
18:54>> But that's the problem. We've seen the
18:55messages and that's what I was getting
18:56at the difference and this is what you
18:59know this is and this is not the only
19:00thing we're talking about the messages
19:02because it's it's the thing that makes
19:04the most sense but there's other stuff
19:06if you think about everything that we do
19:07in an investigation you don't know who
19:09we've talked to you don't know what
19:10other things but when you are sending
19:13messages and it's we we I told you we
19:17should have done this
19:19you understand what I'm saying no one is
19:20going to believe that those messages are
19:22him talking to you about something he
19:24did that you weren't involved in.
19:27>> I know.
19:28>> You know what I'm saying?
19:29>> No, I know.
19:29>> Coming out of your house with a gun for
19:31him, right?
19:33>> No, I know.
19:34>> No, not not my house.
19:36>> Coming out of a house with a gun for
19:38him.
19:40>> Yep. And I can tell you know that we're
19:42on point with this [ __ ] And I get it.
19:44It's not easy to sit there and own up to
19:46[ __ ] that you did.
19:47>> I mean, I'm in a G sack with Drew. I
19:50really didn't do nothing. For real. For
19:52real. For real. Well, then tell us the
19:54story.
19:54>> That is the story.
19:56>> That That doesn't work because of those
19:58messages. That's what I'm I'm telling
20:00you straight up. That That does not
20:01work.
20:03>> I really don't I don't know, man. I'm
20:06telling you,
20:07>> that's just that's just a piece of it.
20:08You know,
20:09>> that that's you sitting here saying, "I
20:10hope this [ __ ] goes away." And I get
20:11it, dude.
20:12>> It's not It's not going away. Tell me
20:14I'm getting smoked. I'm not going home.
20:16>> I mean, you you could be if you don't if
20:18you don't start like being honest.
20:22Man,
20:23>> what do you really want me to say,
20:24though?
20:24>> I want you to say the truth, bro. But
20:26that is the truth.
20:27>> You You understand there's a huge
20:28difference between you saying, "Hey,
20:31let's go shoot this kid." And and you
20:34saying, "Hey, I'll hop in the car with
20:35you and we'll go for a ride and oh [ __ ]
20:37what happened?" There's a huge
20:38difference in that. And if you don't
20:40think that that there's a difference in
20:41that, you're crazy. Cuz that's all the
20:43difference in the world between you
20:44getting really smoked and a judge
20:46saying, "Oh, this kid made a mistake."
20:49>> Like I said, there's nobody hit. There's
20:51nobody dead. If there was a [ __ ]
20:54mistake, bro, it was a mistake. If it
20:57was something where it's like, "Hey,
20:58let's go [ __ ] bang on them." That's
21:00different. But it's exactly like AJ just
21:02said. If you got in the car and it was
21:03like, "Hey, we're going for a ride."
21:05Throughout that ride, oh [ __ ] we see so
21:07and so. Maybe it's an op or whatever.
21:10Something goes sideways. And you do what
21:12you got to do. In my eyes, there's a
21:14difference between protection and
21:16hunting. You act actively go and hunt
21:18somebody. That's one thing. You got to
21:21do something out of protection, that's
21:23another thing. And then to couple that
21:25with the fact of were you in the car
21:28looking to go do it or were you just
21:29driving around smoking a blunt and came
21:31across an op type thing. That's the
21:33difference, bro.
21:33>> We were smoking, chilling.
21:35>> Yep.
21:35>> And we came across him.
21:37>> And what happened?
21:39>> He did some hot [ __ ] We was driving
21:41down the road. I was in the backseat of
21:43my phone like this and I looked up and
21:47they were already arguing and then
21:50that's it.
21:51>> Who was arguing?
21:53>> Come on. Do I have to get into that much
21:55detail?
21:56>> How about I do it for you?
21:57>> I'm telling you what's up.
21:58>> Nefali and Shidell.
22:00>> I don't Who the [ __ ] is Shidel?
22:02That's the first. Um,
22:04>> who?
22:05>> They were arguing and so KT's in the
22:07front seat.
22:08>> KT wasn't there.
22:10>> I was in the back. Who's in the front
22:12seat?
22:12>> Nobody.
22:13>> Why are you in the back if
22:15>> I was just in the backseat riding?
22:18>> I get it, bro. Yet you don't.
22:20>> But you don't want to put somebody else
22:21on the Hey, I can put nobody under.
22:24Listen, I'm telling you what you want to
22:26hear. I can eat that.
22:26>> No, you're telling me
22:29I was I was sitting there. Tell me the
22:30truth, not what I want to hear.
22:32>> That's it.
22:32>> All right. So, you guys are you're
22:34riding around
22:34>> smoking weed and that's it. And then we
22:36he came across them and then mis
22:39miscommunication. There's a ops or
22:42whatever the [ __ ] it is, [ __ ] And then
22:43that's it.
22:47>> So, how'd you guys land up on the east?
22:50>> We was just honestly riding around just
22:52honestly.
22:54>> So, you're on what? North main.
22:57>> Uh, no. We came up a hill
23:01or down the hill. We was on a hill
23:03>> like on the hills in the east. Okay. So
23:06you're in the east.
23:06>> So you're deep in the east. You're
23:07coming back toward
23:08>> We was in the east. So like
23:11uh like where the McDonald's is to your
23:13left down that hill
23:15>> cuz that's a pretty steep hill right
23:17there.
23:18>> I don't know. It was one of It was
23:19somewhere. I don't know.
23:20>> All right.
23:21>> I don't know.
23:22>> Where was it that you guys seen the up
23:24>> at a red light?
23:26>> Was it on the hill or on North Main?
23:28>> It was at the top of a hill.
23:29>> At the top of the hill.
23:30>> Yeah.
23:30>> Did they So after the words are
23:32exchanged?
23:33>> Yeah.
23:33>> Were you guys like car to car? Did they
23:35roll up on you? Try to do some flying.
23:37>> He went flying down the hill.
23:38>> He went flying down the hill. Okay.
23:41>> Whoever the [ __ ] was in that car, I
23:42really don't know.
23:43>> So they had window.
23:46>> Okay. And then you guys peeled off or
23:49they peeled off first?
23:50>> They peeled off.
23:51>> Okay.
23:52>> Do you remember what the car looked
23:53like?
23:57>> It was probably like a I don't know. It
24:00was a car. It was some type of car.
24:04had no tent.
24:05>> Fishbold.
24:06>> Yeah.
24:08>> So they peel off. You guys go down the
24:10hill.
24:11>> Mhm.
24:14>> That car bangs it
24:15>> on to North Main.
24:18>> No, before they bang on to North Main,
24:19they banged on us.
24:20>> No, I'm When I say banged, I'm not
24:22talking about right there. They turned
24:24>> Yeah. Before they turned on North Main
24:25Street, they shot at us.
24:26>> Okay.
24:26>> While we was coming down the hill.
24:28>> Okay.
24:29So then they turn onto North Main.
24:32>> Right where I was sitting, the
24:33[ __ ] window got busted.
24:34>> Okay.
24:37>> You guys go on North Main after it.
24:40>> We go to go fly to Chad.
24:43>> At one point though, you're in the
24:44oncoming lane.
24:46>> You know how North Main is?
24:47>> You know how you go down that hill and
24:48you can't go straight?
24:49>> Yep.
24:50>> Yeah, that's why.
24:51>> All right. So, you know where you know
24:53how how CH I'm how North Main set up?
24:56You know how it has that median in the
24:58middle where the grass is?
25:01>> This is the roadway where you're driving
25:02this way.
25:03>> Yeah.
25:03>> This is the roadway going this way.
25:05Yeah.
25:05>> You guys went this way.
25:06>> No, he went that way.
25:08>> He he he came down the hill and took the
25:10left right there. Boom.
25:11>> Okay. And you guys stayed on this side
25:14and
25:15>> we stood right there at the red light
25:16cuz that [ __ ] the car we was in got shot
25:18at and then we flew back to Chad.
25:21>> What car were you in?
25:22>> I don't know. I don't know whose car it
25:24was. What was it? Natali since he was
25:26driving.
25:27>> I don't know.
25:28>> I honestly really don't know whose car
25:30it was.
25:30>> Was it a Rena?
25:31>> I don't know.
25:32>> Okay.
25:33>> I I'm pretty sure it was.
25:35>> SUV or car?
25:37>> Well, it was a car, I think.
25:39>> Car?
25:40>> Yeah. Or SUV? One of the two. I can't
25:43really remember. That [ __ ] was man long
25:44ago.
25:45>> I can't really I'm really trying to
25:48remember, bro. Like, cuz I'm really I'm
25:50like I'm not on no [ __ ] bro. I'm
25:52really trying to go the [ __ ] home. At
25:53what point
25:55did he bang back at them
26:00>> when they were banging at us
26:01>> on the hill?
26:02>> Yeah,
26:03>> I know there were shots fired on North
26:04Main. That's why I'm asking you that.
26:06>> Yeah, that's where they banged on us.
26:08>> Then we returned.
26:10>> You returned fire right there. So it was
26:12mutual.
26:12>> Not me.
26:14>> I didn't shoot.
26:15>> Okay. But you were I'm just saying I'm
26:16not saying you were in the car. He
26:19returned fire at them right there then.
26:21They return. They were shooting on us.
26:23>> Okay.
26:26>> I'm pretty sure you guys is banging
26:28back, too. [ __ ]
26:30>> It's just you two in the car.
26:31>> Yeah.
26:32>> Saying KT wasn't in the car.
26:33>> No. Okay.
26:34>> I don't know where the [ __ ] you got KT
26:35from.
26:35>> All right.
26:36>> I'll tell you that it was me and Fally.
26:38>> Okay.
26:40>> Okay.
26:41>> So, he bangs back obviously cuz they
26:43bang on you.
26:45That car shoots up the hill on only
26:48street where like the the east projects
26:49are University Heights there.
26:51>> I'm going to keep it a G00. I was like
26:54my fault. I was like this ducking down
26:56cuz the window right here got busted.
26:58>> Okay. So I was like that.
27:00>> So you almost got [ __ ]
27:02>> Almost. You really want to know what
27:04happened?
27:04>> Yeah, I do.
27:05>> The hoodie that I was wearing like that.
27:07>> Yeah,
27:08>> bro.
27:10If I was if I still had my house, I
27:12would have showed you guys the [ __ ]
27:14the hoodie, bro. The red hoodie that I
27:17was wearing.
27:19I almost took my [ __ ] melon off, bro.
27:22>> Was it Was it
27:23>> That wasn't even the first time either
27:25cuz I got I got shot just sitting in
27:27Chad. I got shot at just sitting in
27:29Chad. And I wasn't even with nobody. I
27:31was with a little kid on his moped. On
27:34the little kid's moped.
27:36And I'm like this. No mask, no nothing.
27:40That [ __ ] ain't cold, bro.
27:42>> You telling me?
27:44>> That's what I'm saying. You're 18, bro.
27:46You got to slow down.
27:48>> Slowed down? I've been slowing down
27:49[ __ ] That since I was a kid, I have
27:51definitely I can tell you this for a
27:53fact. I slowed the [ __ ] down. Pulled my
27:56E brake all the way up. I'll tell you
27:59that.
27:59>> Maybe since March, but not back. So,
28:01what gun what gun did he use then?
28:04>> Oh, I don't know that I don't know that
28:07I really don't know. So,
28:08>> I could tell you anything else but that
28:11and I don't know.
28:13>> But
28:14you you guys shared some guns.
28:18>> No.
28:18>> Or you held some guns for him.
28:20>> No.
28:20>> Again, based on the messages. There's no
28:22other way to read them.
28:23>> No.
28:24>> Where he's telling you this was when you
28:25were on Fillmore.
28:26>> Okay.
28:27>> Right.
28:28>> Yeah.
28:28>> The messages were like, "Hey, I'm
28:31[ __ ] coming down Filillmore. Come out
28:33with one." All that. All that kind of
28:36stuff. the strap you holding for him. It
28:37is what it is, bro. It's not like Just
28:39hear me out. Just We don't We don't have
28:41the [ __ ] We don't have his [ __ ]
28:42strap. So, it is what it is.
28:44>> I wasn't holding the strap.
28:45>> All right. Well, then he asked you to
28:47get a strap and bring it out to him.
28:51>> No, you got it all mixed up.
28:52>> So, tell us how it's all mixed up,
28:55right? How far off am I?
28:58>> A little.
28:58>> Okay.
28:59>> A little.
29:00>> Explain. Cuz what am I off with?
29:01>> He leaves it in the bushes. He left it
29:03in the bushes.
29:04>> Okay. But so you're you're still
29:05bringing it out to him.
29:06>> No, he was already there.
29:09>> All right.
29:10>> I
29:11got You told me to come outside.
29:14>> He told me to come outside, so I came
29:16outside and that's it.
29:18>> And that was in the bushes near your
29:20spot.
29:20>> No, that was Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
29:22Yeah. Right at the end that they [ __ ]
29:25took clean right off. They cut all them
29:28bushes right down.
29:35Now,
29:37so back to the the 16th after
29:40>> I really don't know the date.
29:42>> Back to the incident on North Main that
29:44I'm talking about. So the back and forth
29:46happens. They bang on you guys. They
29:50smash. They shoot through the window
29:51where you're sitting, threw your hoodie,
29:53whatever.
29:55He bangs back. If Tally bangs back on
29:57them, where do you guys go from there?
29:59Straight back to Chad.
30:01They go to your spot or you go to his
30:04>> I I got dropped off.
30:06>> You got dropped off
30:06>> right there on Filillmore Street.
30:08>> Yep.
30:08>> Where you go where you guys call us
30:10Filmore boys. How close are that?
30:12>> Providence and Jump Outs
30:15>> where Times Two Hill is. I got dropped
30:17off right on the other side. Not Not the
30:19where the hill is. You go straight down
30:20the hill where Duncan is. Right there.
30:22>> Yeah. Boom. Got dropped right off.
30:23>> Okay. So, you weren't in the house after
30:26that?
30:26>> No, I stood outside.
30:27>> You stayed outside? Where did he go?
30:29>> I don't know. Oh, he dropped me off.
30:30>> Peeled off?
30:31>> Yeah, he just peeled off.
30:32>> I would assume he would have had to cuz
30:33the window was smashed out in the car.
30:35>> Mhm.
30:36>> Okay.
30:37>> Took my [ __ ] head clean off.
30:40>> Had me crying and everything.
30:43>> I ain't going to knock you, bro.
30:45So,
30:49I'm sure there's some things after we
30:50can touch on with that and clean up.
30:54I'm going to fast forward um
30:58to the other day that you were talking
30:59about where they had you in the car.
31:03What was the whole thing with that?
31:04>> I don't know. I came out my house where
31:07where you guys kicked down the door at.
31:09>> I walked through the blocks through the
31:11basketball court. I came up. My boy
31:14calls me. He's like, "Yo, match up." I'm
31:15like, "All right, bet."
31:17So, I pulled up in the lot right there
31:18on uh March Street and I'm literally
31:21walking down the literally this is the
31:24parking lot. This is the walkway right
31:25here. I'm literally walking down the
31:27walkway. A cop pulls in and he's like,
31:29"Yo, you called you called." And I'm
31:31like, "Nah, but I see mad people running
31:33just now, like right there." And the guy
31:36was literally like, "Yo, yo." when when
31:38the cop pulled up on me. So, I'm like,
31:40"Look, he's literally screaming for you
31:41right there." So, the cop went to him
31:43and I went about my day. I literally
31:45stood right where the cop pulled up on
31:46me at. He pulled back up 2 minutes 2
31:49seconds later and threw me in cuffs.
31:51>> Who uh who was the boy that you called?
31:53>> Uh George.
31:54>> George. George what?
31:56>> I don't know.
31:57>> Where is he from?
31:58>> He lives in Chad.
31:59>> Chad?
32:01>> He lives right there where I got
32:02>> I was going to say is he the one at that
32:03little corner house?
32:04>> He's kind of like he's not doc doc skin
32:06but he's like doc Hispanic.
32:09>> Yeah, but he he don't live on the corner
32:10house.
32:10>> No, no, not on the corner house. He's in
32:12that building of that lot. Yeah,
32:14>> right.
32:14>> Yeah.
32:15>> Okay. What did What did George say to
32:17you?
32:17>> Nothing. George was like, "What the
32:18[ __ ] going on?"
32:21George came out when everything
32:22happened. He came outside, seeing
32:25everything happen. And I'm like, "I
32:26don't know what the [ __ ] going on." I
32:28I honestly thought he sent me up.
32:30>> What? Yeah. Cuz he literally called me
32:32and that's when the cops pulled right
32:34up. So, I thought he sent me up for
32:36something. Honestly, keep it a Ghana
32:38with you guys.
32:39>> No cap.
32:40>> Were you going to make a play with him
32:41or something? No, I was just going to
32:42smoke blunts with him. Chilling in his
32:44car. Just
32:45>> What does George drive?
32:47>> His girl's car.
32:48>> What is that?
32:49>> A Ford.
32:50>> A Ford sedan or SUV?
32:52>> No, no, no. I'm I'm chatting. I'm
32:54chatting. It's the Dodge.
32:56>> I'm trying to Dodge
32:57>> SUV.
32:58>> Red. That's his. All right.
33:05Again, I don't want to have to drag
33:07every single thing out of the story. I
33:10know there's more to it. All right. I'm
33:12just like I said, bro, I'm going to
33:14prove to you right now. I just keep it
33:15on.
33:15>> Wait, more to this whole [ __ ] thing.
33:18>> What we're talking about right now?
33:19>> That whole day with everything.
33:21>> I want to know
33:23>> the trunk of the car that you were in.
33:24>> Yeah.
33:25>> Yeah. Whose car?
33:25>> It was open.
33:27>> Whose car was that?
33:28>> I don't know. That's the car they said I
33:30stole. But the trunk was wide open.
33:32>> All right. Did you talk to any of your
33:33other boys?
33:34>> No.
33:34>> None of them at all?
33:35>> No. My boys weren't even around.
33:37>> I can tell you that's false, bro.
33:38>> No.
33:39>> All right. I'll I'll just tell you flat
33:40out, okay? We have Xavier and Jamie from
33:43the jump. All right, bro. I know Xavier
33:46met with Jamie,
33:47>> okay,
33:48>> at the crib,
33:49>> okay?
33:49>> I know he [ __ ] threw his hoodie off.
33:51>> I know they walked right over to 63,
33:53>> telling me information I don't know.
33:55>> Just let you do know cuz you're on
33:56camera meeting up with them.
33:58>> No, I'm on camera leaving my house and
34:00then meeting up with them after
34:02everything happened.
34:04>> After everything happened. Exactly.
34:06>> After I got arrested and everything.
34:10No,
34:10>> no, it's before that. Before that,
34:14>> it's definitely before that, bro.
34:17>> I'm I'm I'm straight with you, bro.
34:20>> I'm being 100%, man. I can tell you
34:22right now. I I I can tell you the exact
34:24thing from start to finish, and you're
34:26going to be like, "Damn, he ain't a
34:27bullshit." I'm not I'm not sitting here
34:29trying to bluff you and play you, bro.
34:31They left the [ __ ] crib. They walked
34:33through that little [ __ ] path. Jamie
34:36went his way. Xavier went around the
34:38[ __ ] thing. Tutu, if you don't know,
34:41his government goes around the other
34:43way. Jamie hopped right in the whip. My
34:46homeboy. Xavier came up with the [ __ ]
34:48strap. Ripped his door open, pulled him
34:51out of the [ __ ] car. It's right
34:53there. I have you meeting up with them
34:55right after. I have you going right to
34:57the car. I have you going to the trunk.
34:59>> I went in the trunk. Yeah,
35:01>> the trunk was open. I went right in
35:03there.
35:04>> But it's like you're leaving all these
35:05parts out, bro. I'm being 100% straight.
35:08We
35:08>> didn't I guess what we're getting at is
35:10you didn't just happen to see a car out
35:11there with a trunk open and go up to it.
35:13>> Yes, I did.
35:13>> It's more than that.
35:14>> I I It was I just happened to walk to
35:17that block, bro. And I And I obviously
35:19You guys know I knew it was a stolie.
35:21>> But you just so happened to walk to that
35:23block after you walking up with with
35:26Xavier
35:26>> with the guys who stole it. I mean, any
35:28sense of you did, bro. It's on camera.
35:30>> I was walking and I bumped into them.
35:34Okay. When I bumped into them, that's
35:36when they told me that that was a
35:38stolen.
35:40>> Who told you it was a stolen? Jamie or
35:41Xavier?
35:42>> It don't really matter who, but they
35:43told me it was a stolen.
35:44>> It does matter, man. That's what we're
35:46trying to talk to you, man. Try to clear
35:48some [ __ ] up. Try to give you the
35:50benefit of the doubt here, man. But
35:52you're playing games and you're running
35:53around [ __ ]
35:55>> Not at all, man.
35:56>> It is though because what we have coming
35:58to you, we're coming correct with some
35:59stuff. We're coming correct and we're
36:02giving it to you straight up. But you're
36:04leaving stuff just like halfhazardly.
36:06Just like you feel like talking about
36:08this but not about that. So it's leaving
36:10questions and answers that we that we
36:12have for you and you're not sharing
36:14things up.
36:15>> I'm If you guys really think I'm lying
36:17then that's all really I got to say I
36:19think you're minimizing minimizing
36:22minimizing. You're leaving bits and
36:24pieces out. Bro,
36:25>> it's not.
36:26>> Bro, it's it's the same thing we talked
36:27about.
36:27>> It's not. I literally left my house,
36:29walked to the basketball court, walked
36:31up. By the time I'm in the basketball
36:33court, George is like, "Yo, what you
36:34doing?" I'm like, "Shit, what's up? I
36:35could jump in your car. We could smoke."
36:36He's like, "Yeah." So, I pulled up in
36:38the block and me walking there, I bumped
36:40into them and they said, "Yo, that's a
36:41stoleie." So, I'm like, "All right, I'm
36:44homeless. Let me go see what the [ __ ] is
36:45in there. I seen clothes and then I seen
36:47the cops." I'm like, "Shit, fuck." You
36:50feel me? It's is nothing to hide.
36:53Nothing at all. I'm already caught. I'm
36:55in cuffs. You guys is telling me what
36:56the [ __ ] going on. So, why would I lie
36:58>> at that point? Why would you think that
37:00George was the one who set you up?
37:02>> Because the cops pulled up while I was
37:04right next to the car.
37:05>> You're saying Xavier and Jamie told you
37:07that's a stoleie and walked right up to
37:08it. If there was anything that you were
37:10going to think somebody set you up, you
37:11would think it was Jamie and Xavier. No.
37:13>> No. No. Because he's the one who called
37:15me over there. George is the one who
37:17called me over there.
37:20>> So Isaiah, who who told you it was a
37:22story?
37:23>> Does it really matter?
37:24>> Yeah, it kind of does. Yeah. Kind of
37:26jealous, man.
37:27They really don't.
37:29>> It matters to you
37:32cuz again it's the same [ __ ] that we
37:34talked about with the other thing. All
37:36these things look a certain way. So the
37:38thing that So look at the shooting,
37:40right?
37:42That looks a lot that looked a lot
37:44different to us before we heard your
37:45side of the story,
37:46>> right? Because we didn't know some of
37:48that [ __ ] We knew most of it.
37:49>> Okay.
37:50>> The other thing with the gun in the
37:51bush, we knew most of it. But you can
37:54see how when we look at things, we
37:57[ __ ] put it together and this is what
38:00we come up with. You have information
38:02that's important to round out the truth,
38:05but you're not. It's like we got to drag
38:06it out of you. You know what I'm saying?
38:08>> I told you what I know.
38:09>> So skip the [ __ ] games and just
38:11>> I am.
38:12>> Can I just ask you flat out? Is is what
38:14you're worried about like you're sinking
38:16Xavier or Jamie?
38:18>> No.
38:18>> Cuz bro, the whole thing's on camera.
38:20You got to realize I mean, you know, you
38:21you've been in chat a while. I'm not
38:23worried about sinking anybody. I'm
38:24worried about going the [ __ ] home. I
38:26want to go home.
38:27>> Well, the best way for you to do that is
38:29to be honest.
38:30>> I am. I swear to God I am. Bro,
38:35>> we're not saying that you're not being
38:36honest. But the problem is that you're
38:38leaving out bits and pieces of the story
38:41that make it look like you're not being
38:43truthful.
38:44>> That's all it is, man. So, we're not
38:46calling you out for being a [ __ ] or
38:47being a liar. We're not saying that.
38:50We're saying that there's questions that
38:51you're not answering that could sh up
38:54some things that we're looking into.
38:58Okay.
39:02So, what can I tell you? What do you
39:04want to hear?
39:05>> The full
39:05>> the truth.
39:06>> That's the truth. I swear to God, bro.
39:10I swear to [ __ ] God. I was walking.
39:12George called me said, "Come match up."
39:14I walked to the lot. They told me, "Yo,
39:16that's a stolie." So, I walked up to the
39:18stolie. The trunk was already cracked
39:19open. So I lifted it up like, "Yo, yeah,
39:21what's in here?" First I asked, "Yo, is
39:23there anything in there?" And they're
39:24like, "Yeah." So I'm like, "All right,
39:25let me go check." All right, check. Cop
39:28was right there. So I'm like, "Oh shit."
39:30Turned right around. You know,
39:32>> did the play off.
39:33>> What?
39:34>> So you played it off nonchalant?
39:36>> No.
39:36>> Right. Yeah. When he pulled up to you, I
39:38know. You looked over your shoulder, you
39:39seen him coming down the street, you
39:40lightly shut the trunk and did the slow
39:42the old slow walk away.
39:44>> No, I stood right there for like
39:45>> I know. I know. I know. Until he left.
39:47Then he pulled in and well he pulled in
39:49the first time, pulled up to you. I know
39:51you're spot on. I know you're not
39:52bullshitting about that. I'm telling you
39:54the whole
39:54>> So what do you think I'm bullshitting
39:55about?
39:56>> Well, here's the thing, bro. You're
39:57you're you're playing you're you're
39:59you're taking a risk.
40:00>> Okay.
40:00>> And you know why?
40:02>> Let me hear it.
40:03>> Well, there's two reasons. Well, there's
40:04more than two reasons, but the main two
40:06reasons are number one, it's all on
40:07camera. We just told you that.
40:08>> So why you asking me if it's all on
40:10camera? You guys know. So why you asking
40:13me? You just want me to say it and
40:14confirm it when you already know.
40:16Listen, listen, listen.
40:18>> The other reason, the other reason
40:20>> all on camera, so why are you guys
40:21acting?
40:22>> The other reason that you're taking a
40:24risk is because you weren't the only one
40:26that got arrested today,
40:27>> okay?
40:28>> And you don't know who else we're going
40:30to talk to,
40:30>> okay?
40:31>> Or who else we already have talked to,
40:33>> okay?
40:34>> And
40:35there may be things that you're saying
40:37that don't make sense with what other
40:39people might tell us or what other
40:41people told us.
40:42>> Whatever they're telling you is [ __ ]
40:43fake, cuz I'm telling you the truth.
40:45I'm telling you dead on. And why the
40:47[ __ ] would I lie if I just [ __ ] told
40:49you I was in a car with a shooting? Bro,
40:51why would I lie? Come on, bro. You [ __ ]
40:53look like a fool right now, bro.
40:54>> Did you find anything in the trunk?
40:56>> No.
40:57>> All right.
40:58>> I didn't even get to look. As soon as I
40:59open the cop came around the corner.
41:01>> Yep.
41:02>> And if it's all on camera, that's all on
41:04camera.
41:04>> So, we're going to we're going to stay
41:06with the fact that you see you see them
41:08on the pathway. They say, "All right,
41:09that's a stoleie." Yeah. You say, "Yo,
41:11is there anything in there?"
41:12>> They told me what the [ __ ] they did. So
41:14I'm like, "All right, let me go search
41:16that car."
41:18>> They told They told you they jacked the
41:19car.
41:20>> Ah, no. They said it's a stolie. He
41:22said, "Yo, we got a stolie."
41:24>> That's what they said.
41:26>> How do they say they got it?
41:28>> Literally. Yo, bro, we got a stolie. I'm
41:30like, what? Where? What's in it?
41:33Just like that. I What's up, bro? What
41:36you doing? [ __ ] Just got this stolie.
41:39What stoleie? I seen it's a Chrysler
41:41300. I'm like, [ __ ] what's in there?
41:43You know
41:45>> that's exactly what happened.
41:48I'm not going to sit here and [ __ ]
41:49[ __ ] my life, bro. This is my life
41:51on the line, bro. If I just told you I
41:53was in a shooting, right? Why would I
41:56lie about a [ __ ] stolen motor
41:58vehicle? That's like the most cheapest
42:00thing.
42:04>> All right. So, after that, they do the
42:06whole show up with the police. What
42:08happens after that?
42:10>> I get out the car and I left.
42:11>> Yeah.
42:12>> And I left. Did you talk to Jamie or
42:14Xavier at any point? How about George?
42:17>> I was with George and my boy Ernie.
42:20>> Yeah. Perkins.
42:21>> Yep.
42:23>> What' they say about the whole thing?
42:25>> Like, what the [ __ ] is going on? Ernie
42:26was talking mahala. You guys were taking
42:28pictures of him. So, he was taking
42:29pictures back. A whole bunch of
42:31[ __ ]
42:31>> He was way off with that.
42:33>> Whatever.
42:35>> Is he Is he related to you, Ernie?
42:37>> He's like a kind of way
42:38>> guardian to me. He took me in when I
42:41first first first first first first
42:42first first first first first first
42:42first first first first first first
42:42first first first first first first
42:42first first first first first first
42:42first first first first first first
42:42first first first first first first
42:42first first first first first first went
42:43homeless I like
42:45>> you know younger age when my mom kicked
42:47me out
42:47>> so he took me in ever since then I
42:49looked at him like a dad cuz I never had
42:50a dad you know I don't know my I mean I
42:52know my dad but I don't know him you
42:54know
42:54>> yeah right
42:55>> so I always looked at him like a father
42:56figure
42:57>> that's why every time he hops skips and
42:59jokes with me
43:01>> beans's boy right
43:03>> yeah older older generation
43:09So, we'll get off that for a second and
43:13talk about something else. Uh, how long
43:15you been staying at 44?
43:17>> Mhm.
43:18>> Couple months.
43:19>> Couple months. So, you've been making
43:21plays out of there.
43:23>> How long is that on plays?
43:24>> No, I never busted a play out of
43:26cousin's house. That's out of my
43:28respect.
43:28>> I can I can tell you two plays that you
43:30busted out of there that I saw.
43:31>> I'm here.
43:32>> Okay. one to a a black Lexus parked in
43:34the middle of Mar Street.
43:35>> Okay.
43:36>> Bro got out. You did it. You did a play
43:39with him right there. He put He put
43:40whatever you gave him in the pill
43:41bottle.
43:42>> Okay.
43:43>> Tell me that's not a play.
43:44>> It wasn't directly in front of the house
43:46if that's what you're going to go with.
43:47I get what you're saying.
43:48>> I mean, not you're not serving,
43:49>> bro. It's weed, bro.
43:50>> It wasn't weed. You're serving. I'm not
43:52saying you're serving them up out of the
43:53house.
43:54>> It was weed.
43:55>> Then you did you did one.
43:58>> Yes, it's weed. I sell weed.
44:00>> How come? How How come you had Coke in
44:03your pocket, though?
44:03>> Cuz I sniff Coke. That's personal.
44:06If If you really want to know that
44:10I have drug additions. I take perks,
44:12too. You want to know that?
44:14>> You sell perks?
44:15>> No, I take them. I can't sell them. I'll
44:17take them all.
44:18>> You never sold a perk?
44:19>> No.
44:20>> Cuz I guarantee I had them for I'll tell
44:22you I'll tell you 100% the 100% the play
44:27you made to the dude in the Lexus, the
44:29black Lexus was not weed. Yes, it was
44:31100%. And I'mma look you in your eyes
44:34and tell you I never served him nothing
44:36but weed.
44:37>> And I could I could call him and I could
44:40pull up my phone and go like this. Yo,
44:41>> how do you serve him the weed?
44:43>> I had it in my hand and I gave it to him
44:45and he put it in the bottle. That's his
44:46bottle he contains is weed
44:47>> bagged up.
44:48>> No, it's straight weed. Loose. I don't I
44:50don't have baggies. It makes it look hot
44:52when I get pulled over.
44:55>> How much then?
44:56>> Like a [ __ ] dub. Ay, he never comes
44:58up more than that. What about Ernest?
45:02>> I don't really serve him. It's always
45:03like a blunt here and there. Yo, let me
45:05get a blunt. All right, I'll give you
45:06five here. Boom.
45:09It's always like a blunt in the morning.
45:10You guys just be watching me. You see
45:12me? I goddamn every morning he texts me,
45:15"Oh, what you doing? I can get a blunt."
45:17Yeah, of course.
45:18>> And the reason we ask about the other
45:20like I know you've made plays outside a
45:23week.
45:23>> Yeah. No,
45:25>> outside a week. And I'm telling you this
45:27because I I know that for a fact. You
45:28don't. Okay.
45:29>> Cuz I don't
45:30>> I do. I can tell you the [ __ ] direct
45:33messages, bro. I know you've made plays
45:35for [ __ ] Fat Boy, too.
45:36>> No.
45:37>> What?
45:39>> You've never He's never put you on a
45:41play
45:42>> for He's never put you on a play. You've
45:43never talked about making a play for
45:47>> I never sold. I'm the middleman.
45:50>> That's So you're not making a [ __ ]
45:52fortune off it. But that's what I'm
45:54saying. Like if he had somebody that
45:55needed a [ __ ] perk and he's not
45:57around, you go and [ __ ] make the
45:59quick play. You're the middle guy.
46:01>> You're still doing a You're still making
46:02a play. Like
46:03>> it's just not a play is saying it like
46:06I'm the one [ __ ] drug dealing. I'm
46:08the one just helping my boys out.
46:10>> Again, I find my perks. I go, "Yeah, you
46:13want a perk? I got you, bro. I'm going
46:14to go get it for you right now."
46:15>> So again, your information helps. Like
46:18you see, like when you tell the truth,
46:21you help yourself out.
46:22>> Tell them nothing about the truth. It
46:24clears things up saying
46:26>> it's not like you got to realize I think
46:27you're thinking too like blunt and
46:29straightforward about it
46:31>> when we're asking you if you've made
46:32plays. I'm not saying every single play
46:35is to benefit you or put money in your
46:38pocket.
46:38>> So yeah, I did.
46:39>> Yeah. But if you're serving somebody up
46:40for somebody else, you're a middleman.
46:42That's fine.
46:42>> Yeah.
46:42>> We're just trying to You see, we're just
46:44trying to get through all this and like
46:46make sense of everything that we have.
46:48Put it in the right pile so that it's
46:50accurate. That's all.
46:53How often would you say you've had to
46:54middle place?
46:56>> Not a lot.
46:56>> Not a lot.
46:57>> Probably like
46:59not a lot. Yeah. Not a lot.
47:02>> All right. Uh, so obviously you do the
47:05weed thing on you.
47:08>> How about as far as perks?
47:10>> I take them.
47:11>> No. No. Roughly. I'm saying how many
47:13plays have you had a middle?
47:15>> Not that many. Not the Not a big amount.
47:18It's probably Can't really think about
47:21it. Probably more than a handful. Well,
47:22I'll tell you that.
47:24>> Okay. How about Coke? How many please
47:27have you had a middle?
47:29>> None.
47:29>> None.
47:30>> None.
47:30>> Nothing with with [ __ ] Jal's mother.
47:35>> No.
47:36>> Never.
47:36>> 100%. Never. I don't even know Jal's
47:40mother.
47:41>> Okay.
47:43That's 100%.
47:44>> Okay.
47:45>> You've never had a [ __ ] middle in any
47:47cold place?
47:48>> No. I sniffed that [ __ ] I'll [ __ ]
47:51sniff it before I
47:52>> stream.
47:53>> Again, I'm not saying you're out there.
47:56I I don't think you get what I'm trying
47:58to
47:58>> No, no, no.
48:00>> I understand that you're not the guy
48:01making
48:03it. I'm
48:05>> wholeheartedly get that there's again,
48:08it's like the protection and hunting
48:09thing. There's a difference between the
48:11guy who's out there middling and the guy
48:13who was actually supplying and making
48:15the [ __ ] good money off of it. I
48:17understand it and I get what you're
48:18saying. If your boys ask, "Hey, I got to
48:20[ __ ] play real quick. Can you [ __ ]
48:22bust a move for me?" I get that.
48:25But again, it comes back to like the
48:26minimizing. You're saying, "All right,
48:28perks." Yeah. More than a handful of
48:30times.
48:32You're telling me you've never ever play
48:34for cocaine?
48:35>> No.
48:36>> Ever in your life?
48:37>> No.
48:37>> Crack?
48:38>> No.
48:38>> Dope.
48:39>> No. Never even touched none of that.
48:41>> The most I've touched is cocaine.
48:44>> That's it. I've never touched fentanyl.
48:46Never touched dope. I've never touched
48:48crack.
48:49>> I hate to break it to you, but as far as
48:52like perks nowadays, there's probably
48:54like a 99% chance you have touched Betty
48:57and didn't know it.
48:57>> Oh, well,
48:59I think I do. I did.
49:01>> That's just me. Tell me.
49:02>> One day I was kind of [ __ ] crazy.
49:04>> And you've never So, and you've never
49:05like given Coke to your boys?
49:07>> No. The [ __ ] would I give Coke to my
49:10boys? They don't even know I sniff Coke.
49:12They know I sniff Coke, they going to
49:14look at me different.
49:16You feel me?
49:17Yeah. Yeah.
49:18>> They going to look at me like a custy.
49:20They going to start treating me like a
49:22custy. I'll tell you that.
49:24Probably think I've been going [ __ ]
49:26crazy, bro. My [ __ ] insides are just
49:28duh.
49:30>> How about as far as uh all the stolies?
49:35>> What do you want to know?
49:38>> The Hyundai.
49:39>> The Hyundai
49:40>> that was parked on cargo shell.
49:42>> Cargo shell. What's that?
49:43>> Couple streets down. Almost like if you
49:46go the street behind the Walgreens.
49:48>> Okay.
49:48>> Where Atomic is.
49:50>> Okay.
49:50>> The blue Hyundai that got put over
49:53there.
49:53>> Had a had a little donut tire on the
49:55front.
49:58>> No. Don't recall.
50:00>> No.
50:00>> No.
50:02>> Not a blue Hyundai. No.
50:06>> Never heard nothing about it.
50:08>> No.
50:09>> This is a while. This is not This is not
50:11like within the past couple days. This
50:13is like maybe
50:17What?
50:18Two months ago, maybe.
50:19>> No,
50:20>> roughly.
50:23>> Okay.
50:23>> At the beginning of July.
50:26>> Okay.
50:26>> Doesn't ring any bells.
50:27>> No.
50:28>> Nothing at all.
50:29>> No.
50:30>> All right.
50:30>> You sure? Cuz you seem a little You seem
50:33>> No, 100%.
50:33>> Yeah. Okay.
50:34>> For real.
50:35>> Not a blue Hyundai. I'll tell you that.
50:38>> The white SUV. Yeah. But not a [ __ ]
50:40blue Hyundai.
50:42>> Which white SUV? The white SUV I was in.
50:45Come on, bro. Stop legit.
50:47>> You want me to say this? This is one of
50:49>> You know what SUV I'm talking about,
50:51bro. The only shooting I was in, bro.
50:54Come on, man.
50:55>> That's it. Real [ __ ] dude. No idea.
50:58>> I'm being dead ass.
50:58>> The only car, bro.
51:00>> I'm being dead ass with it.
51:01>> The car I was in in the shooting, bro.
51:03>> Oh, for the North Main.
51:04>> Yeah,
51:05>> that's the only really car I could think
51:06about.
51:08>> That wasn't even I thought you were
51:09talking to a different story. We didn't
51:11know that cuz you couldn't recall the
51:12car in North Main.
51:13>> Oh, yeah.
51:13>> That's why you see SUV.
51:15>> So that's why.
51:15>> Yeah. But it just like when you say that
51:17it makes sense. You know what I'm
51:18saying? It's like, all right, you're
51:19clearing it up now.
51:23>> Where did Where did that story come
51:25from?
51:25>> I don't know.
51:26>> No idea.
51:29Were you one of the young boys that they
51:30used to try to put on to grabbing them?
51:32>> Tried.
51:34>> They tried. Yes. I used to do that in my
51:36past. Yes.
51:37>> I used to steal cars. Yes. But I never
51:39like did nothing with them.
51:41>> Okay.
51:41>> Most drive them around, tin them up. I
51:43was carless in the snow. It was always
51:46in the winter. I never I don't I don't
51:48go out my way in the summer. It was
51:51always in the winter. I'll steal cars
51:52just to drive them around. You know what
51:54I mean? Tin them up, put a new plate on
51:56it. Providence cops don't even [ __ ] with
51:58them. They're the upto-ate car.
52:01>> Where'd that Mercury come from?
52:03>> That's my boys.
52:05>> It's my boys.
52:07>> Okay.
52:08the dude who lives at the spa or no?
52:10>> Yeah,
52:11>> Jeff.
52:12>> No, Jeff is innocent. I guess
52:15>> I'm not I'm not I'm not saying he's I'm
52:17asking about the car. That's why you're
52:19saying my boy is at the spa. I'm
52:21thinking you're talking about gets it.
52:23>> Yeah,
52:24>> it's Jeff's car or no?
52:26>> No.
52:26>> Gabriel's car.
52:27>> Yeah, he had the keys and he let me use
52:29it cuz he's in a rental.
52:32>> You know where he got it?
52:34>> No, but he recently just bought it not
52:36too long ago. all [ __ ] up like that.
52:38>> Okay.
52:39>> Don't mean I can ride in it.
52:41>> What do you drive now?
52:42>> Nothing. Cuz the [ __ ] the exhausted
52:45Mercury's on the floor.
52:48>> Not driving anything.
52:49>> No.
52:50>> How else you getting around?
52:51>> Asking my boys for rides. Asking JB and
52:55Tutu for rides. They them two got cars.
52:59Can't ask Gabe because them take me
53:01nowhere.
53:02>> You been in that Honda?
53:03>> Which Honda?
53:04>> The maroon one. Uh the red one JB's.
53:07>> Yeah.
53:07>> Yeah, of course.
53:08>> Never made any plays in that.
53:10>> Yeah, of course. He takes me to plays
53:12all the time.
53:12>> Okay. Who' you make plays with there? Or
53:14what kind of plays you make?
53:15>> Weed plays.
53:16>> Weed plays.
53:17>> Yeah. Aphes quarters. Sometimes a half.
53:28How about the uh
53:31the night in Chad when the Audi came by?
53:35and banged on me and almost killed us.
53:40>> Literally, they came by with the back
53:41window down. You could see it in the
53:43cameras. If if you guys are talking
53:45about the cameras, you'll see it in the
53:47cameras. That Audi's been spinning since
53:49Chad Brown day. Literally doing laps,
53:52laps, laps, laps since the cookout. And
53:55I realized cuz the has the dealer
53:56plates.
53:57>> Yeah.
53:57>> Has dealer plates. I seen the spinning
54:01all the time. We was We were sitting on
54:03the benches.
54:04>> It was late. It was late. So, I wanted
54:06to go home.
54:07>> Who's we? You.
54:08>> Me and my boys.
54:10>> 22 JB.
54:11>> Yeah. My boys.
54:12>> Yeah.
54:13>> And the car came by. Literally had [ __ ]
54:17like that and and the top down and they
54:20started banging on us. So, we bang back.
54:24That's it.
54:27>> Who had the strap for that one?
54:29>> I don't know. I know they passed it to
54:31you.
54:32>> No, they didn't.
54:32>> They absolutely didn't. And you ran into
54:34>> You ran into an apartment.
54:35>> I ran into the apartment cuz I was
54:36getting shot at.
54:37>> That's why I ran.
54:38>> You know how you know how long you
54:39stayed in that apartment?
54:40>> Like 2 seconds. It came right back out.
54:43>> Yeah. Doesn't that doesn't make any
54:44sense?
54:44>> Cuz everybody was screaming. So I came
54:46to make sure everybody was good. They
54:48were They came through banging on us. So
54:51after I took cover right right where the
54:54[ __ ] are, that steps right there. I
54:56took cover right there. Boom. Once I
54:58seen uh car was good, I ran into the
55:01house cuz that's that's my stepbrother's
55:02house.
55:02>> You know what though? You know what you
55:03just did? What? So I ran into the house
55:05and you did this, right?
55:06>> Yeah.
55:06>> But you weren't doing this.
55:07>> What was I doing?
55:10>> No. The satchel 100%
55:12>> 100%.
55:13>> That's a [ __ ]
55:14>> I got See, like you can tell. I know.
55:15You know
55:16>> that's a thousand% on that, bro. I can
55:17tell. You know we're not bullshitting on
55:18that, bro.
55:19>> No,
55:19>> you know we're not bullshitting on that.
55:21I
55:22>> He did not pass me no gun.
55:23>> I can show you. I'm saying that satchel
55:25you had
55:27straight gripped it to your side and ran
55:29the house like this.
55:31>> I was wearing it.
55:34>> So you're saying you you had a strap
55:37that you didn't bang off then cuz I know
55:39you had a strap in the thing. It is what
55:40it is, bro.
55:41>> It's it's obvious, dude. It's like I
55:43just
55:43>> It's blatantly obvious. That's why I'm
55:45saying like it's more of like are we
55:47just going to [ __ ] [ __ ] each
55:49other? Like I've been a part of part of
55:50this is just to like honestly but we
55:53can't charge you with a gun. You didn't
55:54[ __ ] have. Right. I know.
55:55>> But like we're trying to just
55:57>> see how honest you are and see.
56:00>> I'm telling
56:00>> I just told you. I just told you you
56:02went like this, right? That's not what
56:03you did.
56:03>> I ran inside the house. I don't know
56:05exactly how I did it, but
56:06>> I can show you. You [ __ ] pinned it to
56:08your side and you ran in and then when
56:10you came out
56:10>> Uhhuh.
56:11>> then you were normal.
56:14>> So, you know,
56:16>> still had the bag on.
56:18>> Yeah. But something wasn't in it.
56:19>> The gun was never in there. I can tell
56:21you that for a fact. You got it all
56:23[ __ ] up.
56:24>> I could look you in your eyes until you
56:26got it mixed up.
56:27>> Okay, I guess me and the shooter ran two
56:29opposite ways. Literally. Literally
56:32opposite.
56:32>> I know you didn't run with somebody. I
56:34never said you did.
56:35>> Literally, you were by yourself.
56:36>> You were 100% by yourself.
56:37>> Opposite.
56:39>> I know you're being straight about that.
56:41I know that for straight about all of
56:42it.
56:43>> I know that for a fact.
56:45>> Again, if you put a strap in the [ __ ]
56:47house, it does not matter. We don't have
56:49the strap, bro. It is what it is. I'm
56:51okay. But I'm just letting you know
56:52either way.
56:53>> I didn't put the gun in the house.
56:54>> Okay.
56:54>> For 100%. That gun that got let off did
56:56not go into the house.
56:57>> Okay.
56:58>> I could tell you that for a fact.
56:59>> Okay. I'm not saying it was definitely
57:00>> It was definitely on the block. Yeah.
57:02>> Oh,
57:02>> and it got left on the block. Yeah.
57:04>> I mean, that was [ __ ] blatant.
57:06>> But
57:07>> I'm not saying the gun you had in your
57:09satchel was the gun that got fired off
57:10is what I'm saying. If you were out
57:12there [ __ ] strapped up for protection
57:14and the shots lit off, you ran in the
57:16house, ditched your [ __ ] cuz you know
57:18the cops would be coming after they let
57:19off, I don't care. It is what it is. It
57:21doesn't matter, bro.
57:21>> No, it is.
57:22>> We don't have that gun.
57:23>> Cuz I'm already caught.
57:24>> I'm already caught. You guys seen
57:26everything that happened and I ran
57:27inside. So why would I sit here and
57:29[ __ ]
57:29>> And I appreciate it. That's what we're
57:30trying to figure out. But you have to
57:33understand when we see something
57:34>> being straight up. Literally the car
57:36came by. They started busting on us.
57:38Shots went back. I ran. I grabbed my
57:41satchel and ran inside.
57:44That's it.
57:45And when I literally went inside, I ran
57:48to the kitchen, lifted up the thing, and
57:50made sure everything was good. And I
57:52seen running. So I'm like, "Hold on, let
57:54me make sure everybody's good." So I
57:55went back to the doors. I was already
57:57wide open. And I went back outside.
57:59That's exactly what happened.
58:02That's exactly what happened. I can tell
58:05you def detail from detail, too.
58:13Who banged on you guys? I
58:15>> I that I don't know, but I know that
58:17that Audi truck was a stoleie cuz on
58:20Facebook I screen recorded it. Somebody
58:22jumped out and ran out of it right there
58:25on um
58:27that oneway. Mr. Lemon
58:30>> Hawkins.
58:30>> No, no, no, no. Uh not Mr. Lemon. Yeah,
58:34Mr. Lemon right there on Douglas. You're
58:36talking about the other Mr. Lemon. I'm
58:38talking about Douglas graveyard
58:40>> street.
58:43It's the hill and then it's the the
58:45>> lemonade. Yep. And then it's right
58:47there. That street right there at the
58:48end of the street. I have a video of the
58:50car ditched right there.
58:52>> I screen recorded it on somebody's on
58:54somebody's Facebook.
58:54>> And you have no idea where brought that
58:56beef to you guys.
58:57>> We're from Chad who don't like Chad.
59:00>> I mean, people are obviously out right
59:02now and and I obviously know through my
59:04time dealing with the [ __ ] game.
59:06everybody and
59:08>> how it goes down
59:10>> taunting on [ __ ] live and taunting on
59:13FaceTimes and this and that,
59:15>> right? I know there was taunting
59:17beforehand.
59:18>> Yeah, I know. Homeboy [ __ ] Splash
59:20taunts the [ __ ] out of you guys. I
59:22already know.
59:22>> Oh, yeah. Not me, though. He never calls
59:24me. He calls other people. He don't even
59:27know me. I know. He probably does. I'm
59:29lying.
59:30>> I'd venture to say if he's spinning
59:31through there, he knows you.
59:32>> Yeah, he knows me. Definitely knows me.
59:34But he never seen a trophies, you know.
59:37>> No,
59:38>> in his eyes, I think you
59:39>> You're always out there.
59:40>> I think you'd be a trophy fan.
59:43>> You're always out there.
59:44>> You said what? Splash.
59:46>> Yeah.
59:46>> Splash.
59:48>> You know who I'm talking about, bro. It
59:49is what it is.
59:50>> I don't know. Splash.
59:52>> Quincy. Splash. The [ __ ]
59:53>> Oh, Quincy. Yeah. Yeah. Quinty. Yeah. I
59:55know Quinty. Yeah.
59:56>> But I don't think it was Quinty. It was
59:57little kids. It was little kids in that
1:00:00car, bro. Literally the
1:00:02>> came up on the window. He was his face
1:00:03was like that to the bottom of the car.
1:00:05So it can't be can't be nobody like
1:00:08that, you know. Do you mind throwing
1:00:10these out there, bro?
1:00:11>> Absolutely, man.
1:00:21>> Yeah, man. I feel I feel like a lot of
1:00:22it you're in the ballpark for sure. I
1:00:26know there's just there's certain things
1:00:28that you don't want to touch on.
1:00:30>> Like what? I I just feel like there's
1:00:33little details that you don't want to
1:00:34touch on.
1:00:35>> Like what? Tell me so I can tell you the
1:00:37honest truth.
1:00:38>> Well, first of all, the whole Audi
1:00:39incident, I mean,
1:00:40>> what?
1:00:41>> Exactly what was what, what went down.
1:00:44My whole goal, bro, in all honesty,
1:00:47is to prevent you and your boys. You may
1:00:50not think that, from getting exactly
1:00:53what you said, getting your [ __ ]
1:00:54melon taken off.
1:00:55>> Okay. So, why am I in cuffs and Quincy's
1:00:57not in cuffs?
1:00:59>> You're telling me it wasn't Quincy?
1:01:02He had a shy on, bro. How do I know it's
1:01:04him?
1:01:05>> You guys little cuz you know because if
1:01:07they did it, they'd be [ __ ] You know,
1:01:10like,
1:01:10>> bro, you know how much [ __ ] he says,
1:01:13>> bro? He says it all over Facebook live
1:01:15and everything talking about an innocent
1:01:17person. Jensen, bro.
1:01:19>> I I agree. I agree, man. I agree.
1:01:22>> Innocent ass civilian.
1:01:23>> I [ __ ] agree.
1:01:25>> That he that that that he always brings
1:01:28up, bro.
1:01:29>> Grimy.
1:01:30That's he brings up easy all the time
1:01:32too.
1:01:32>> Yeah, it's disgusting. But like that
1:01:34that's part of what we're trying to do
1:01:37is prevent all that [ __ ]
1:01:38>> right?
1:01:39>> And like you know you are whether you
1:01:44know it or not part of that, right?
1:01:45You're part of that whole world, right?
1:01:47So we're trying to get an insight into
1:01:49that world so we can do our job better.
1:01:51And
1:01:54it would look good for you to help us
1:01:57get an insight into that world. You know
1:01:59what I'm saying? Because
1:02:02again, all this like the stuff that
1:02:03you're being charged with.
1:02:05>> What am I being charged with
1:02:06>> can can go both can be seen from both
1:02:09ways. We already talked about that,
1:02:11right? So, we're just trying to get an
1:02:13honest 100% honest not leaving anything
1:02:17out account of of everything. And I
1:02:19think we're I don't know almost there,
1:02:22but not quite. You know what I'm saying?
1:02:24And if you don't if you don't
1:02:27come 100% correct and you're not 100%
1:02:29honest, then it really doesn't matter
1:02:33that much because because you're still
1:02:35sitting there and you're not being
1:02:36honest, right? And so the people that
1:02:37are going to judge you eventually are
1:02:39going to know that and that's not going
1:02:41to look good for you. That's what I'm
1:02:42trying to say.
1:02:43>> Like what what are you trying to say
1:02:44though? The pe the people that will
1:02:46>> like when you go to court, the people
1:02:48that judge you, right? There's a huge
1:02:49difference. Here's what I'll tell you. I
1:02:51can't make I can't make you promises
1:02:53about what's going to happen to you when
1:02:55you go on to the next phase, right? Cuz
1:02:57that's not my job. My job is to do to
1:02:59investigate, right, Matt? All our that's
1:03:01what our job is to investigate. But I
1:03:04will tell you, I've been doing this a
1:03:06long time. You can you can tell that
1:03:08probably by looking at me, right?
1:03:10Everybody who I've who's gone to court
1:03:14who has been honest, they do better than
1:03:17people that are not honest. I can tell
1:03:19you that hand to God 100%. Because at
1:03:22the end of a day, at the end of of the
1:03:24day, the judge is looking for some
1:03:26reason to give you some [ __ ] benefit
1:03:28of the doubt. And that happens when
1:03:30you're honest.
1:03:33It doesn't happen when you're half
1:03:34honest. You know what I'm saying?
1:03:35>> I'm telling you everything you guys want
1:03:37to hear.
1:03:38>> No, no, it's 100%. No, I do not know who
1:03:41was in that Audi, but I know it was the
1:03:43ops and I know it was a Stoie.
1:03:45>> Okay.
1:03:46>> 100%. You know, bang on.
1:03:48>> No, I don't. I was not looking.
1:03:51>> Okay.
1:03:51>> Cuz when the shots went off,
1:03:53>> who's your best guess?
1:03:54>> Can I Can I
1:03:57>> I don't know.
1:03:58>> See, that's what I mean, bro. That's
1:03:59what I'm That's what I'm talking. You
1:04:00were hon.
1:04:08>> There was like six of us there.
1:04:10>> Nope. But that's not what you said. You
1:04:11said
1:04:13>> we ranoo. Me and the shooter. That's
1:04:15what you said. Me and the shooter
1:04:17shooter was cuz everybody ran in the
1:04:18court and I ran. That's what he's
1:04:21talking about.
1:04:21>> That's what I'm talking about. That's
1:04:22where That's where you're [ __ ]
1:04:24yourself. Honestly, because you're in
1:04:25here, bro.
1:04:26>> Yeah, because you could be getting you
1:04:28could be building up good credit for
1:04:29you.
1:04:30>> Could be making things better for you,
1:04:31but you're not. I'm trying to, bro. If I
1:04:34knew who was shooting, bro, I would have
1:04:35told you, bro. Just like the first
1:04:37incident, bro.
1:04:38>> You know, you weren't holding the gun
1:04:39then. Who was who was there holding the
1:04:40gun?
1:04:40>> It was in my bag.
1:04:42That gun that was in my bag, didn't get
1:04:44shot.
1:04:45>> Not that when I ran inside the house, it
1:04:46was not in I don't know. There was only
1:04:48one gun.
1:04:48>> All right. So, you put a back you you
1:04:50[ __ ] get shot at. You run inside and
1:04:52put your gun in the house.
1:04:53>> No,
1:04:54>> you just said the gun was in the bag.
1:04:56Stood on the block, bro. When I opened
1:04:57my bag, I gave it to somebody, bro.
1:04:59>> Who you Who' you give it to?
1:05:00>> That don't really matter cuz they didn't
1:05:02shoot it.
1:05:04>> I'm [ __ ] I'm confused. Somebody shot,
1:05:07that's for sure.
1:05:08>> Not the person I gave my gun to, though.
1:05:10>> So, what was it? a hot potato that was
1:05:12just passing the [ __ ] thing.
1:05:13>> No, I grabbed my satchel.
1:05:15>> Yep.
1:05:16>> And I tossed my gun.
1:05:17>> Yep.
1:05:18>> To somebody and he went and put it in
1:05:19the bushes
1:05:20>> after it was shot.
1:05:21>> No, not my gun.
1:05:23>> So two out there is what you're saying.
1:05:27>> Yes. It wasn't my gun that was being
1:05:29shot.
1:05:29>> So which one was being shot?
1:05:31>> I don't know exactly. I can't.
1:05:34>> This is what he's saying, bro.
1:05:35>> Bro, and and you
1:05:36>> Bro, I'm telling you the truth. How the
1:05:38[ __ ] am I supposed to know what gun
1:05:39everybody has on them? Actually, yo,
1:05:41what gun you got on your What gun you
1:05:42got on?
1:05:42>> I'll tell you. I'll tell you what you
1:05:43got in your bag. [ __ ]
1:05:45>> Cuz there's no [ __ ] There's no chance
1:05:47in hell that you guys after that
1:05:48happened.
1:05:49>> Yeah.
1:05:49>> Didn't meet up, smoke, sit around, and
1:05:51somebody said, "Yeah, I [ __ ] let
1:05:53three off. I banged on them." There's no
1:05:55[ __ ] way, dude. That's not how it
1:05:56works.
1:05:57>> They banged on us. So, what the [ __ ] are
1:05:58we going to sit here and
1:05:59>> Nobody's Nobody's saying that.
1:06:01>> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We got banged on.
1:06:03No.
1:06:03>> Yeah, we got banged on.
1:06:06>> We understand that.
1:06:07>> I get it, bro. But there's no way you
1:06:09guys didn't talk about what happened.
1:06:10>> We did. And that's exactly what the [ __ ]
1:06:12was said.
1:06:14>> Who the [ __ ] was in that Audi was in the
1:06:16Audi?
1:06:17>> What? What he's getting at is is you're
1:06:19not 1,000%. We'll bang back.
1:06:21>> I know,
1:06:22>> bro. See,
1:06:23>> and you're talking about wanting to go
1:06:24home and wanting to
1:06:25>> I probably like 50%.
1:06:27>> This is what helps you, but you're not
1:06:28you're not helping yourself. You're
1:06:30playing [ __ ] 18, my man. You're
1:06:33laughing about this, but I'm trying to
1:06:34be straight up with you, bro. I'm a
1:06:35straight up, bro. No, it's not my man.
1:06:38It's not. It is
1:06:39>> because there's been bits and pieces
1:06:40that keep coming out.
1:06:42>> It is.
1:06:42>> Listen to me cuz I'm trying to talk to
1:06:44you straight the [ __ ] up as a man, bro.
1:06:46Okay.
1:06:46>> And I am.
1:06:47>> No, you're not.
1:06:47>> Yes, I am.
1:06:48>> You're not. I'm telling you the dead
1:06:49truth, bro. Why do I got to lie about
1:06:51some piece of [ __ ] [ __ ] shooting?
1:06:53>> Bits in [ __ ] pieces, bro. Cuz you're
1:06:55going to get your [ __ ] head taken off
1:06:56and you're only 18 years old.
1:06:57>> Give a [ __ ]
1:06:58>> You should. I really don't.
1:06:59>> You should. I really don't, bro.
1:07:01>> You're [ __ ] 18.
1:07:02>> Why you think I've been trying to break
1:07:03it, bro? I've been trying to get the
1:07:04[ __ ] out of here, man.
1:07:05>> And I don't blame you, man. But you got
1:07:07to [ __ ] understand what the [ __ ]
1:07:08going on here.
1:07:09>> I I'm trying to, but you need
1:07:10>> You look around telling me like I'm some
1:07:13[ __ ] liar, bro. I'm telling you the
1:07:15dead honest truth.
1:07:16>> It's not the full dead honest truth.
1:07:18That's the problem.
1:07:19>> It is the dead honest full truth.
1:07:21>> How many times did you tell me prior to
1:07:22that that you didn't have a gun in that
1:07:24satchel? How many times? That's not the
1:07:26dead honest truth, bro.
1:07:27>> I didn't, bro.
1:07:28>> How many times did you tell us you
1:07:29didn't know what car you were in? You
1:07:31weren't there? This, that, the other.
1:07:33It's It's been this. So, like what we're
1:07:35trying to do is just [ __ ] skip the
1:07:37[ __ ]
1:07:38Just come out with the [ __ ] truth the
1:07:40first time so we can move on.
1:07:42>> We don't have to play the circle game,
1:07:43bro.
1:07:44>> We're dragging it out of you like this
1:07:45is going to drive me crazy.
1:07:47>> All right, hear this out.
1:07:48>> I'm telling you the truth, bro. It's
1:07:49either you're going to listen to me or
1:07:51I'm just going to stop talking.
1:07:52>> All right, listen.
1:07:53>> So, listen.
1:07:54>> Literally, I was s I was standing there.
1:07:56The [ __ ] Audi came by and banged on
1:07:58us, bro. I'm standing there with a
1:07:59satchel and the guns in the bush, bro.
1:08:01Okay. So, I'm standing there, bro. I'm
1:08:03like this, bro. When the car is banging
1:08:05on us, bro. What you think? I'm a
1:08:07>> Yeah. Who's shooting? Shoot back.
1:08:10You said you tossed your gun to
1:08:12somebody.
1:08:13>> Yes. I grabbed it from the bush and
1:08:15tossed it. Okay. So, it wasn't in the
1:08:18satchel. That's all you had to explain,
1:08:19>> bro. That's what I'm saying.
1:08:20>> You're not listening to me, bro.
1:08:21>> I am. The gun is in the bush. We're
1:08:23listening. We are listening. That's why
1:08:25we're Because I literally told you
1:08:28before the Audi came, the gun was in the
1:08:30in the bush.
1:08:31>> Okay. when we right right right right
1:08:33right right right right right right
1:08:33right right right right right right
1:08:33right right right right right right when
1:08:33it got banged on
1:08:35>> it was in my satchel but not for like
1:08:37more than
1:08:39a minute two minutes tops then it got
1:08:43handed off and put in the bushes
1:08:46>> again
1:08:47>> again no different bushes not the same
1:08:49bush
1:08:49>> but like again a second time in
1:08:51different bushes
1:08:52>> yes
1:08:53>> so that gun was the one that was used to
1:08:56buck on it
1:08:56>> no
1:08:57>> so there was two guns
1:08:58>> yes
1:08:59>> were they both in the bushes
1:09:00>> no
1:09:01>> somebody had the other one on
1:09:02>> I'm pretty sure. Yeah.
1:09:03>> Okay.
1:09:04>> Cuz it wasn't where mine was.
1:09:05>> Okay.
1:09:06>> So, who are you pretty sure had the
1:09:07other gun?
1:09:08>> I don't know, bro. There was like six
1:09:10there, bro. I'm trying to I'm trying to
1:09:12be
1:09:13>> If I could be like guessing anybody, it
1:09:16would be the I got arrested with, bro.
1:09:20That's my point, man.
1:09:22>> Who else can it be, bro?
1:09:24>> I don't know. I wasn't out there with
1:09:25him, bro. Only you.
1:09:26>> That's what I'm trying to explain to
1:09:27you, bro.
1:09:28>> Okay. So, it's a matter of [ __ ]
1:09:29deductive reasoning. Who are you out
1:09:31there with if you go?
1:09:32>> Same people I got arrested with, bro.
1:09:34>> Yeah. So, it's you, Jamie, and Xavier.
1:09:37>> Yes.
1:09:38>> Okay.
1:09:38>> And a few more other people. But them
1:09:40other people was just bullshitting.
1:09:42>> They weren't.
1:09:43>> That's my point. So, now it's down to
1:09:45[ __ ] your 50% idea. So, Jamie or
1:09:49Xavier
1:09:51and that bang back.
1:09:53>> It could be both, honestly, because it
1:09:55sounded like [ __ ] five guns are going
1:09:57off.
1:09:59Keep it a G00.
1:10:01It could be honestly both. For real. For
1:10:03real. It could really be both. It could
1:10:06>> cuz they were both strapped that night.
1:10:07>> I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I'm like 50% sure
1:10:11they were both strapped. Me, I don't
1:10:14like keeping a gun on me cuz you
1:10:15[ __ ] be all over the place. So,
1:10:17I'd be ready.
1:10:19Feel me? I'm not going to walk around
1:10:20with a gun on me, bro. That's just
1:10:21[ __ ] bro.
1:10:24>> What do you think we we got today at the
1:10:27other cribs?
1:10:28>> I don't know. You obviously know we we
1:10:31hit other spots, right?
1:10:32>> Yeah.
1:10:33>> I mean, that's common sense.
1:10:34>> What other spots did you hit?
1:10:36>> Where do you think who who' you see?
1:10:39>> I seen Tutu and I seen Gabe. That's it.
1:10:44>> There's another one.
1:10:45>> So, which one?
1:10:46>> Jamie's.
1:10:47>> Okay.
1:10:48>> What do you think we got today?
1:10:51>> Probably found a gun. I don't know.
1:10:55>> Any idea what kind of gun?
1:10:56>> Nope. What type of gun? I'm asking too,
1:10:59do you have any idea?
1:11:00>> No. What type of gun?
1:11:02>> We got pistols.
1:11:03>> Okay.
1:11:03>> Do you think we found your gun?
1:11:05>> I don't have a gun.
1:11:07>> I don't own a gun. I'm saying
1:11:08>> personally I don't own a gun.
1:11:09>> We're talking about that gun that you
1:11:11had that night.
1:11:12>> No, I don't think we got that one.
1:11:14>> No, it wasn't that gun that got let off.
1:11:16No.
1:11:17>> Okay. No. No.
1:11:18>> No.
1:11:19>> Not the one that got
1:11:19>> the one that the one that got put in the
1:11:21bushes.
1:11:21>> The one that came out of your satchel
1:11:22then got put in the bushes then went
1:11:24somewhere else.
1:11:24>> That's the one I had that night. Yeah.
1:11:26>> Okay. I'm saying, do you think that we
1:11:28got that one?
1:11:29>> I don't know. There's plenty of guns out
1:11:30here. I really don't know which one you
1:11:33got.
1:11:35>> I'm trying to figure out which one you
1:11:36got so I could help you guys. Which one
1:11:38did you find?
1:11:41>> What?
1:11:42>> 49. Tell me which one. So I can help
1:11:44you.
1:11:44>> Let me So let me let me ask Let me ask
1:11:46you this.
1:11:47>> How many guns do you know that were over
1:11:49there with those guys?
1:11:51>> My gun, the gun that I was with that
1:11:53night.
1:11:53>> What kind of gun was that?
1:11:54>> A nine. What color was it?
1:11:57>> Black. It was a Kel-Tech.
1:11:58>> Kel-Tech.
1:11:59>> Yes.
1:11:59>> Okay. Where' that one come from?
1:12:04>> I had it for a while.
1:12:06>> How long was a while?
1:12:07>> Couple years.
1:12:12>> Come from Fat Boy.
1:12:13>> No.
1:12:14>> No.
1:12:14>> Definitely not.
1:12:15>> Okay.
1:12:16>> Definitely not.
1:12:18>> Fat Boy that don't put a gun in my
1:12:21hands.
1:12:23And maybe he let me put it in the
1:12:25bushes. Here, put the [ __ ] in the bushes
1:12:28so I don't rewrite it around with it.
1:12:30That's it. That's really it.
1:12:35Telling you the dead stock.
1:12:39>> What What other kind of guns do they
1:12:40have over there? Your other boys.
1:12:43>> Probably another nine.
1:12:46>> What? That one looks like
1:12:49>> I don't know. What type of color is
1:12:51that? I don't know. Is it black? Is it
1:12:53silver? Or is it brown?
1:12:55>> I think it's like brown.
1:12:58>> I don't know. Like it's like bronze.
1:13:00Bronze. Penny color.
1:13:01>> Penny color.
1:13:02>> Yeah.
1:13:02>> But like plastic.
1:13:04>> No. No [ __ ] plastic gun.
1:13:05>> Yeah. Like
1:13:06>> like the whole thing is not steel.
1:13:08>> Glock.
1:13:09>> Yeah. It's not like that.
1:13:10>> You know what I'm saying? The bottom the
1:13:11the heart you hold is plastic.
1:13:13>> No. We don't use no [ __ ] polymer. Ghost.
1:13:14>> It's a Glock.
1:13:16>> No. No. Plastic is ghost. Ghost guns,
1:13:18right?
1:13:19>> Glock. It's polymer. It's the same
1:13:20thing. It's plastic. He's saying like
1:13:21that hot like like look at this [ __ ]
1:13:23>> No. Yeah, I know. I know. I'm listening.
1:13:24I know what you mean. The bottom when
1:13:25you hold right there. That piece that
1:13:27comes off the trigger. Yeah, I know.
1:13:28>> Yeah.
1:13:29>> What else? What else do they have over
1:13:31there?
1:13:32>> That's really all I could think of,
1:13:33honestly. Just the lines.
1:13:34>> Do you know where that that penny
1:13:36colored one came from?
1:13:37>> No.
1:13:38>> Has you've been seeing that one around a
1:13:39while?
1:13:40>> Yeah.
1:13:40>> Yeah.
1:13:40>> Not not not the longest. Not not that
1:13:43long, though. I think just recently that
1:13:46one came to the blog.
1:13:48>> That one's been around for a little bit.
1:13:49>> No. Yeah. Not not too too too long, but
1:13:52just like recently before any other gun,
1:13:54that was the most recent gun that came
1:13:55to the block.
1:14:00>> You don't have to pass around.
1:14:02>> Yeah, that's just the block gun. You
1:14:03leave that [ __ ] right there and whenever
1:14:04you need it, that's right there.
1:14:07It's not really nobody's,
1:14:09>> right?
1:14:10>> It's just always right there.
1:14:12Always. Well, you found that one. It's
1:14:15good.
1:14:17It's good.
1:14:19Where'd your keltech end up?
1:14:21>> You really want to know?
1:14:22>> I do.
1:14:22>> I got back doored for that [ __ ]
1:14:24>> How?
1:14:27>> Long story short, that [ __ ] was a
1:14:28jammer. The person that sold it to me, I
1:14:31didn't really know him like that. So, he
1:14:32played me, you know?
1:14:33>> Mhm.
1:14:33>> [ __ ] played me, bro. For $1,000, bro,
1:14:35for a [ __ ] gun that didn't even
1:14:37shoot, bro. Every time I I clicked it,
1:14:39bro, it was click.
1:14:40>> Was it nine or a three?
1:14:41>> It was a nine. Nine.
1:14:42>> Yeah. Every time I click it, it was
1:14:43click click. So, I'm like, what the
1:14:46[ __ ] So I took it to somebody that I
1:14:48know from [ __ ] North Province, some
1:14:50white kid. He [ __ ] robbed me, bro.
1:14:52Round me clean. Back door me. He's
1:14:55supposed to be one of my boys. Back door
1:14:57me.
1:14:58>> Gone.
1:14:59>> Was he the one you got the gun from?
1:15:00>> No.
1:15:00>> Like he got it back or no? Separate guy.
1:15:02>> No, I came to him for him to fix it. Yo,
1:15:05you think you could fix this cuz it's
1:15:06not shooting? Look. He said, "Yeah, I
1:15:07can see what I could do." I'm like, "All
1:15:10right, here." Gave it to him. Never
1:15:13texted me back, nothing. So I was
1:15:14blowing up his phone. Yo, you're a
1:15:16[ __ ] [ __ ] for that [ __ ] If you
1:15:17brought me,
1:15:18>> did that gun ever shoot for you?
1:15:19>> No.
1:15:20>> Never?
1:15:21>> No. Probably
1:15:22>> tried.
1:15:22>> Probably like in the past, like when
1:15:24someone else had it.
1:15:26>> That's it.
1:15:27>> Like somebody else you knew had it?
1:15:29>> Yeah.
1:15:31>> The person I sold it to that sold it to
1:15:33me.
1:15:34>> So that was one of your boys?
1:15:35>> Not really my boys. I just knew him.
1:15:37>> Okay. From around Chad?
1:15:39>> He's not from Chad. No.
1:15:41>> Is he like a gun source?
1:15:43>> No. Just a just a oneoff thing.
1:15:45>> He really That's That is really the only
1:15:48gun I really seen him win.
1:15:50>> For real. For real. For real.
1:15:51>> And how do you know that it shot before?
1:15:53Did he tell you that it did or you saw
1:15:54it?
1:15:55>> Yeah, I saw it shoot before.
1:15:56>> Oh, okay.
1:15:56>> I saw it shoot before in chat.
1:16:00Saw it shoot in the air.
1:16:02>> Yep.
1:16:03>> Yo, look at this [ __ ] All right, that
1:16:06[ __ ] works. Yeah, it works. Look. Bam.
1:16:10>> Right in the air.
1:16:11>> How much you pay for it? thousand
1:16:13>> a thousand. So you
1:16:15>> [ __ ] robbed me.
1:16:16>> He knew what you want once and then
1:16:17[ __ ]
1:16:17>> He knew I was a rookie and I don't I
1:16:20don't really get into guns and I don't
1:16:21really know. Told me you should have
1:16:23shot that [ __ ] before you even bought
1:16:25it.
1:16:25>> So you said it was a Keltech. Was it all
1:16:27black or was it black and silver?
1:16:28>> All black.
1:16:28>> Did it have like a a beam on it or
1:16:30anything like that? Nothing special
1:16:31about it. Just a
1:16:32>> just a plain Killtech. Yeah, regular
1:16:34Keltech.
1:16:36>> So you haven't heard this white dude in
1:16:38North Prop since?
1:16:40>> No. Literally [ __ ] around me, bro.
1:16:43>> I don't know him.
1:16:44>> Come on around.
1:16:45>> You know him from the hood.
1:16:46>> You make weed plays to him or something.
1:16:48>> Sometimes actually like once. Once twice
1:16:52and that was to get to know him, you
1:16:55know, like, "Yo, I got weed." You know,
1:16:56call me if anything, you know? Yeah.
1:16:59Yeah. Let me get something right now.
1:17:00Here, I got 20 bucks for you. No,
1:17:02actually it was like the A that day.
1:17:05Yeah, it was a A. I gave him the A. And
1:17:08he said, "Yo, I got this Killtech for
1:17:10sale." And they alerted me cuz I was
1:17:13making money and I never had a gun
1:17:15before and I've been looking for a gun.
1:17:16>> Wait, I'm confused.
1:17:18>> What?
1:17:20You said
1:17:22you bought the
1:17:24>> Keltech.
1:17:24>> The Kel-Tech. Yes.
1:17:25>> From your boy.
1:17:27>> Not my boy, but Yeah. technically my
1:17:28boy. Yeah.
1:17:29>> And then you're talking about the I'm
1:17:31talking about the kid from North
1:17:32Providence
1:17:33>> that robbed me.
1:17:34>> Yes.
1:17:35>> Okay.
1:17:36So, is that the same kid that you
1:17:38>> No, that I bought it off.
1:17:39>> The story The story that you're just
1:17:40telling does not make sense then.
1:17:42>> I thought you said the one that sold it
1:17:43to me. The one that sold it to me. I
1:17:45sold him a like once or twice.
1:17:47>> Okay. I meant the other guy.
1:17:48>> You met the kid in North robbed you?
1:17:50>> No. No. The kid that robbed me, he's a
1:17:51goofy, bro.
1:17:52>> But I'm saying, did you know him from we
1:17:54plays or something? Or how do you know?
1:17:55>> No, I just knew him from the hood.
1:17:56>> Okay.
1:17:56>> Yeah, he's from the hood.
1:17:59>> When you say he's like a goofy, like
1:18:00he's not in the mix at all.
1:18:02>> No.
1:18:02>> Is he the got a blue card and [ __ ] He
1:18:04buys guns or what? Uh, he's just not
1:18:06even in the mix at all.
1:18:07>> So, how's his Why Why did you choose him
1:18:10to go to fix?
1:18:10>> He's a white kid.
1:18:12>> He honestly convinced me. He's a white
1:18:14kid.
1:18:14>> Yeah.
1:18:15>> He recent like he he said like, "Oh,
1:18:17yeah. Like, I could get I could fix that
1:18:18shit." So, I'm like, "You sure you can
1:18:21fix this shit?" He's like, "Yeah, yeah,
1:18:22I can fix that shit." Other people like,
1:18:23"Yeah, he could fix that."
1:18:25So, they all convinced me.
1:18:27>> He just let it slide.
1:18:30>> What can I do? I don't I don't know
1:18:31that. I don't
1:18:32>> He just like never gave it back to you.
1:18:34Yeah, I hit him up plenty of times. Yo,
1:18:37yo, what's up? You What's up? If you did
1:18:39that to me, you're goofy. When I see
1:18:41you, it's lit.
1:18:44It's exactly what I told him.
1:18:45>> And that's where it was left.
1:18:47>> Yeah. He never honestly opened the
1:18:49message and never texted back.
1:18:53>> When was the last time you hit him up?
1:18:56>> I was mad long ago. That [ __ ] was like
1:19:02last winter.
1:19:04around.
1:19:06>> But that doesn't make sense either,
1:19:07though.
1:19:08>> How?
1:19:09>> Because the shooting we were talking
1:19:11about with the Audi was [ __ ] a month
1:19:13ago.
1:19:14>> Okay. But it wasn't with the kill.
1:19:16>> You're saying a different gun.
1:19:18>> I don't know. I don't know what gun was
1:19:19let off, but it definitely wasn't with
1:19:20the No, I'm I'm not trying to confuse
1:19:23you. I think you're getting mixed up in
1:19:25what he's asking.
1:19:27>> You're saying the Kel-Tech was from last
1:19:29winter.
1:19:30>> Yeah. You've had a separate gun since
1:19:32then. That's what he's saying.
1:19:36>> I've been using the block.
1:19:37>> The block gun. Okay. So, the Bush's gun
1:19:39that night from the Audi is a block gun.
1:19:41>> Yeah.
1:19:41>> Okay.
1:19:42>> Okay. All right.
1:19:42>> I got you.
1:19:42>> And was that the copper colored one that
1:19:44you're talking about?
1:19:45>> Yeah.
1:19:46>> Okay.
1:19:47>> So, that night with the Audi, it was the
1:19:49copper colored one that you had
1:19:50>> in the bush. Yeah.
1:19:51>> Okay.
1:19:52>> All right. So, here's this is very
1:19:54important for you.
1:19:56>> You understand how it works when guns
1:19:58get shot sometimes, right? Yes. They can
1:20:00pick up the brass.
1:20:02>> Yes.
1:20:02>> And say that gun, this brass came from
1:20:04that gun.
1:20:05>> Yes.
1:20:05>> Okay.
1:20:06>> We have that gun now.
1:20:07>> Okay.
1:20:12>> When we take the brass from that gun and
1:20:15it comes back to all these shootings,
1:20:18now we have that gun. You're the only
1:20:20person right now that we know
1:20:23potentially that that's had that gun.
1:20:25>> Okay. But it's not my gun. I didn't
1:20:27shoot that [ __ ] Oh, listen. You just
1:20:30said I had it that night. Okay.
1:20:33What's going to come back, and this is
1:20:35where being honest helps because
1:20:38when we get the when we get all the [ __ ]
1:20:40that comes back on that gun
1:20:42>> right now, guess who we're going coming
1:20:44back to talk to?
1:20:45>> Me.
1:20:46>> You? Cuz you just told us you had that
1:20:48gun.
1:20:48>> It was in the bush.
1:20:49>> All right. But what's going to what
1:20:51shootings are going to come back to that
1:20:53gun?
1:20:53>> I don't know. I don't know. You keep it
1:20:57a G on it. I really don't know.
1:20:58>> But the casings for that gun will not be
1:21:00from the night of the Audi. I don't
1:21:03know.
1:21:04>> Well, you really don't.
1:21:06>> I don't know who the [ __ ]
1:21:07>> But you get You get why I'm saying this?
1:21:08This could be an issue for you.
1:21:11>> Think about it. You just said, "Yeah, I
1:21:12had that gun that night."
1:21:13>> I didn't, bro. It wasn't in my
1:21:15possession. It was in the bush.
1:21:16>> It was If you put it in the bush, it was
1:21:18in your possession.
1:21:18>> I didn't put I didn't say I put it in
1:21:19the bush. I said it was in the bush when
1:21:22we was there. You said,
1:21:23>> cuz you said at one point it was in your
1:21:25satchel after the Audi came. After the
1:21:27Audi came through, I grabbed it and put
1:21:29it in my satchel. That
1:21:30>> that that's what he's talking about.
1:21:32>> Yes. I After the Audi came through, I
1:21:34grabbed it off the put it right in there
1:21:36and then they were like, "No, no, no.
1:21:37Put that [ __ ] up." So, I'm like, "And
1:21:39we're talking about the brown Glock."
1:21:40>> Yeah.
1:21:41>> Okay. So, that's my point. That's my
1:21:44point is that right now
1:21:46you own that gun.
1:21:47>> No, I don't.
1:21:49>> You just said you had it.
1:21:51>> But it wasn't in my possession, bro.
1:21:53That's what I'm trying to say to you. If
1:21:54if I take my phone and I take it out of
1:21:57my pocket and I put it on the ground,
1:21:59these phones were in my possession.
1:22:00>> Okay?
1:22:01>> That gun was in your possession. Don't
1:22:03get confused about what that means.
1:22:06>> Lord help me.
1:22:08>> You get what he's saying, bro?
1:22:10>> I'm giving you So, what I'm doing
1:22:12>> is I'm giving you a chance to get ahead
1:22:13of things because as you can probably
1:22:16tell from all this [ __ ] that we're
1:22:17talking about, we know a [ __ ] lot of
1:22:20stuff, right? And as we put the pieces
1:22:23together going forward, like I told you,
1:22:25like we all told you, you're not the
1:22:27only one that got arrested today. Your
1:22:29phone isn't the only phone that we've
1:22:30seized. Um, there's a lot of stuff.
1:22:34There's a lot of camera footage. There's
1:22:36a lot of [ __ ] out there, bro. What I'm
1:22:39I'm giving you the opportunity right now
1:22:41to get ahead of anything that's on that
1:22:42gun that you know about so that when it
1:22:45comes back to us and we say, "Holy [ __ ]
1:22:47look at all this [ __ ] that that gun's
1:22:48been involved in." We can say, "Well,
1:22:50you know what? Isaiah is off the list
1:22:52cuz he was he told us about that [ __ ]
1:22:54We don't need to [ __ ]
1:22:54>> I'm telling you."
1:22:55>> Okay.
1:22:55>> So, what do you really want to hear?
1:22:57>> I want to know. I just told you. I want
1:22:59to know I know you've I know you've been
1:23:02around that gun and I want to know what
1:23:04that gun is going to come back to. Where
1:23:07when has that gun been shot? Who's it
1:23:09been shot at? That's what I'm That's
1:23:10what I'm asking. That's an opportunity
1:23:13for you.
1:23:13>> You guys are just losing me. You know
1:23:15that, right? It's
1:23:15>> just a straight up opportunity, bro.
1:23:17Like I said, everyone gets a bite of the
1:23:18apple.
1:23:20>> Listen,
1:23:21>> I'm listening, man.
1:23:22>> All right, I'm not going to say this
1:23:24again, bro. I was there when the Audi
1:23:27came through.
1:23:29>> I get it. I'm not talking about that.
1:23:31>> What are you talking about?
1:23:33>> I'm talking about if that's a block gun,
1:23:34like you said, and you had it that
1:23:36night, there's probably a chance that
1:23:38you had it another night or that
1:23:39somebody you know had it on another
1:23:41night and that it shot somebody else or
1:23:43shot at somebody or whatever. That's
1:23:44what I'm asking you about.
1:23:46>> Okay. Okay. If you never shot that gun,
1:23:48you So, you're saying you never ever
1:23:49ever shot that gun?
1:23:50>> No.
1:23:51>> Has that gun been shot by somebody else?
1:23:53Let's just start there.
1:23:54>> I personally don't know. That night,
1:23:56that night of the Audi, I don't know.
1:23:59>> And what about any other night?
1:24:01>> Of all the other nights, I never I I
1:24:03don't know about that Glock being shot
1:24:06for real.
1:24:07>> That Glock has not been shot in front of
1:24:09my eyes. Like, me looking at the gun
1:24:11shooting and the person shooting.
1:24:12>> Has somebody said I banged on somebody
1:24:14with that Glock?
1:24:15>> No. No.
1:24:17No.
1:24:21>> But you know that
1:24:23>> on that night the gun was in the bushes.
1:24:27You took it. Did you run it in the
1:24:29house?
1:24:30>> No.
1:24:30>> No. You threw it back in the bushes.
1:24:32>> No.
1:24:32>> How long handed it off?
1:24:33>> How long did you have it in the satchel
1:24:34before the Audi came by?
1:24:36>> Didn't It was in the bush.
1:24:38>> It was in the bush already.
1:24:39>> Yes.
1:24:39>> All right. Let's just break this down.
1:24:41>> I'm very confused about this.
1:24:42>> This is just the [ __ ] confusing part.
1:24:45You guys are all out there.
1:24:46>> Yes.
1:24:47>> When you get there?
1:24:48>> Yes. I was already there.
1:24:50>> I was probably the first ones there.
1:24:52>> Okay. When When you were there, did you
1:24:54have the gun?
1:24:55>> No. Okay.
1:24:55>> I was in the bush the whole
1:24:56>> You had the satchel?
1:24:57>> Yes, I had the satchel. Okay.
1:24:58>> The gun stays there overnight. All the
1:25:00time it stays there.
1:25:01>> At what point did you put it in the
1:25:03satchel?
1:25:03>> After the Audi came through,
1:25:05>> so I will put it away.
1:25:06>> So you grabbed it from the bush.
1:25:09>> I don't want to put words in your mouth.
1:25:10I just want to understand. So you after
1:25:12the Audi came by, you grabbed it from
1:25:14the bush. Now, this is when they were
1:25:15circling, not when they
1:25:16>> No, this is after the shots
1:25:17>> after they shot at you guys.
1:25:19>> The shots get let off back towards it.
1:25:21>> Yes.
1:25:22>> The gun is back in the bush now.
1:25:24>> No, it's been there the whole time.
1:25:26>> All right. Okay.
1:25:27>> Okay.
1:25:27>> So, that gun you're 100% that that gun
1:25:29was never shot on that night.
1:25:31>> I mean, I'm sure to my knowledge it was
1:25:33not shot that night. No,
1:25:35>> that's a weird way to say something,
1:25:36dude. I I
1:25:37>> to my knowledge 100%. I don't not know
1:25:39that gun was shot. It sounded like
1:25:42three, four guns were going off, bro. I
1:25:44said that, bro.
1:25:44>> Okay. So, but let's go back to what he
1:25:46was saying before about doing the
1:25:48[ __ ] math in your head. How many
1:25:49dudes out there had guns?
1:25:51>> There was probably like two guns out
1:25:53there. Three guns out there.
1:25:54>> Okay. What were the other guns that were
1:25:55out there?
1:25:56>> I don't know. I don't know exactly cuz
1:25:58there's a bunch of guns.
1:25:59>> Okay. So, who had guns out there? Jamie?
1:26:01>> No.
1:26:02>> No.
1:26:02>> No.
1:26:04>> Who?
1:26:05>> Who else? Two. Two.
1:26:06>> Two. Two.
1:26:08>> That's it.
1:26:09>> He had two.
1:26:10>> And no, he just had one and the other
1:26:11one was in the bush.
1:26:12>> All right. But you just said it sounded
1:26:13like there were five guns going off.
1:26:15>> Yeah, it did.
1:26:17>> Okay. So,
1:26:20you're making it sound like that that
1:26:23you guys were shooting more than one gun
1:26:25back.
1:26:25>> No.
1:26:26>> Okay.
1:26:26>> That was probably one gunshot.
1:26:28>> Okay. Now, there was one gun shot, but
1:26:30it wasn't that one.
1:26:31>> No.
1:26:31>> Okay. So, you didn't So,
1:26:33>> I don't know if it was that one.
1:26:35>> All right. But I just want to get this.
1:26:36So after the after they shot at you and
1:26:39you somebody may or may not have shot
1:26:41back you you took it put it in your
1:26:42satchel. Then what?
1:26:45>> I tossed it off. As soon as I grabbed it
1:26:47and put it in my satchel, they're like,
1:26:48"Nah, no, no. Put that [ __ ] up." So I
1:26:50handed it off.
1:26:53Then I ran inside the house
1:26:56cuz shot at, bro. I'm going inside. But
1:26:58then I came back out cuz I seen
1:26:59everybody was screaming and running
1:27:00around. So I thought somebody got hit.
1:27:03Came back out and we was all good. So
1:27:06clearly it's a little more honest.
1:27:08>> So it is what it is. Two two buck back.
1:27:12>> Bro, I said that, bro.
1:27:13>> Yeah. I mean, I get it, bro. You guys
1:27:15are getting shot at, but this is this is
1:27:17what we meant. That's what we were
1:27:18saying like from before.
1:27:20>> You wanted me to say say it clearly.
1:27:22>> I just
1:27:23>> We just wanted to say like you might not
1:27:26realize it because we've been in here
1:27:27for a while or but like
1:27:28>> your story has been like all over the
1:27:31[ __ ] place.
1:27:32>> Cuz I'm not going to sit here and be
1:27:34like, "Yeah, he shot." I get it, bro. I
1:27:36get that. But that's what we're
1:27:37unfortunately like that's the seat
1:27:38you're in. You know what I mean? We're
1:27:40just asking you to be honest. And you
1:27:42can tell that when something when you
1:27:45leave something out, we're all [ __ ]
1:27:46over it because we know like, dude,
1:27:49you're you're a I don't think you're a
1:27:51bad guy, but we can tell, right? And so
1:27:56when you say something that doesn't make
1:27:57sense to us, we're jumping on it because
1:27:59it doesn't make sense to us. Between the
1:28:01three of us, we probably have [ __ ] 60
1:28:03years worth of experience doing this
1:28:05[ __ ]
1:28:05>> Okay?
1:28:05>> You know what I mean? So, you're not
1:28:07getting anything over on us. You're just
1:28:09prolonging the [ __ ]
1:28:10>> I'm not trying to get anything off. I'm
1:28:12trying to help. You know, I want my
1:28:14help. So, I'm going to help you.
1:28:15>> You should be looking at it like you're
1:28:17trying to help you because that's what
1:28:19being honest is doing. It's
1:28:20>> how is it helping me if I'm going to
1:28:21stay in cuffs regardless?
1:28:23>> Because because it helps in the long
1:28:25run. That's what has been saying.
1:28:26>> You're [ __ ] 18, right?
1:28:27>> I'm telling you guys what you want to
1:28:29hear. It's not about what we want to
1:28:31hear, man. We're trying the truth.
1:28:33>> That is the truth, bro. All right.
1:28:35>> So, you're saying
1:28:35>> it's the truth, bro.
1:28:37>> What we're trying to tell you, bro, is
1:28:38honestly when we say help yourself.
1:28:41>> It's I can't get this through you
1:28:42enough, bro. I get you're in tough times
1:28:44and it's an uphill battle, but you're
1:28:4618, my man.
1:28:47>> You're 18, brother. Like, you're you're
1:28:50just starting to touch the world. And
1:28:51I'm not saying that in a disrespectful
1:28:53manner to you, okay? I get you've grown
1:28:55up and you're probably a lot more
1:28:57[ __ ] mature streetwise than a lot of
1:29:00[ __ ] people, but you're 18, brother.
1:29:03You're 18. The [ __ ] you're [ __ ]
1:29:04doing, it's wild, man.
1:29:06>> I'm not really doing anything.
1:29:07>> When I say doing, I'm saying I'm talking
1:29:09about the block, bro. You're about to
1:29:12get your [ __ ] head off.
1:29:14>> You guys just think I go to Chad to
1:29:15chill.
1:29:17>> I live there all my life.
1:29:18>> I don't have nobody that's all all them
1:29:21contacts in my phone from Chad. I'm not
1:29:24saying it's a
1:29:25>> I don't have nobody outside of Chad that
1:29:27I could call. Yo, can I come sleep over
1:29:29tonight? No, I don't got nobody outside
1:29:32of Chad, bro. That's why I'm always
1:29:34there all the time, 24/7. You
1:29:36[ __ ] go through that. You'll
1:29:37see me walking through that [ __ ]
1:29:39>> You'll see me all the time.
1:29:40>> But but what we're what we're saying is
1:29:42that you're [ __ ] 18. You're young,
1:29:44right?
1:29:46your your the the your answers to these
1:29:49questions and and the way you're being
1:29:50honest is going to have an impact on how
1:29:53much of the rest of your [ __ ] life
1:29:54you get to live instead of [ __ ]
1:29:56living in a box. You get what I mean?
1:29:58>> So, while somebody's dead, I'm going to
1:30:00face the rest of my life in jail.
1:30:01>> I didn't say that.
1:30:02>> That's what you're trying to say.
1:30:04>> No, that's not I'm saying that that the
1:30:06the more honest you are,
1:30:09I guarantee you that there's a a better
1:30:11chance that you spend less time in jail
1:30:13if you're honest. I told you I can't
1:30:15make the promise, but in all my years,
1:30:18people that are honest do better than
1:30:19people are
1:30:20>> being honest, bro.
1:30:21>> I just I feel like I keep being I feel
1:30:23like I keep having to remind you because
1:30:24it it
1:30:26>> like I said, we get Listen, we get
1:30:28>> What do you want? What do you want to
1:30:29hear, bro? What do you want to hear? We
1:30:30was all there. This my back and that's
1:30:33it, bro. That's literally what happened,
1:30:36bro.
1:30:36>> It just took a while to get there
1:30:38>> because I already told you he said the
1:30:40tutu shoe and I'm like, who else?
1:30:43Well, Jamie was there, too.
1:30:45>> But he didn't have a gun, so how did he
1:30:46shoot?
1:30:47>> But that's We could have skipped.
1:30:49>> But you asked me he did he have a gun
1:30:51and I said no.
1:30:51>> We could have skipped like an hour of
1:30:53this.
1:30:53>> Okay. But you asked me did he have a gun
1:30:55and I said no. You guys just want to
1:30:57>> come on my
1:30:59We're not here to argue with you, bro.
1:31:01>> Okay. But I'm telling you,
1:31:01>> we're trying to do is just cut out the
1:31:03[ __ ] That's all we're trying to do.
1:31:04>> To save you the frustration, to save us
1:31:06the confusion. That's what we're here to
1:31:08do, man. We're not trying to rile you
1:31:10up. We're not trying to like get you
1:31:12confused and say some [ __ ] to just trip
1:31:14you up and and tell us what we want to
1:31:16hear. That's not what we're here for. If
1:31:18I wanted to tell myself what I wanted to
1:31:19hear, I would have saved the talk with
1:31:21you. Honestly, cuz I would have sto
1:31:23stood outside and just told myself,
1:31:24"Hey, this is what happened." No.
1:31:27>> That's why we had
1:31:27>> That's why we're here. I know.
1:31:29>> We're We're trying to like we're trying
1:31:32to get your story out that makes sense
1:31:34because when believe it or not, dude,
1:31:36when you say something that doesn't make
1:31:39sense to us, that means that it's not
1:31:41going to make sense to somebody else
1:31:42that's listening to it. You know what I
1:31:43mean? So, if we're [ __ ] harping on
1:31:45little things, it's because it doesn't
1:31:46[ __ ] make sense and we just want it
1:31:48to make sense.
1:31:48>> And it's the truth. You want me to tell
1:31:49you something, so I'm going to tell you
1:31:51what I know.
1:31:51>> All right. What What else do you know
1:31:54that's going on out there?
1:31:57>> Nothing really much. M all them
1:31:59shootings that are happening in Chad is
1:32:02ops coming to Chad.
1:32:03>> No [ __ ] I know.
1:32:05>> And banging on us.
1:32:06>> But you must know you must know more
1:32:08about that, right?
1:32:09>> Like what?
1:32:10>> Like who's coming in? What what's the
1:32:11beef going off?
1:32:13>> Not exactly. Oh yeah, that's them in
1:32:15that car, you know? Cuz it's always
1:32:16different stolen different cars, you
1:32:18know? And it's [ __ ] east, south,
1:32:21west, [ __ ] Lakeside, [ __ ] whatever
1:32:24the [ __ ] else we beef with. Who from the
1:32:26south you guys be for?
1:32:28>> Come on.
1:32:29>> Be a dead ass.
1:32:32>> Easy.
1:32:34>> H.
1:32:35>> Yeah. Southside. Yes, sir.
1:32:38>> Oh, obviously I know it's not clowny.
1:32:40>> What's clowny?
1:32:41>> Clown town.
1:32:42>> Clown town.
1:32:43>> The six. The six. That's what That's why
1:32:45I say when I hear South, I immediately
1:32:48associate. My era, bro. Okay. And And
1:32:50this is where I'm going to explain it to
1:32:51you. My era,
1:32:53>> it was Triple C. It was Clowny, Comtock,
1:32:57and Chad, and it was this. And it was
1:33:00first the watch.
1:33:01>> And all all the modern still like that.
1:33:03>> Yeah. Oh, that's But that's why I'm
1:33:05saying it might be different from your
1:33:06generation.
1:33:07>> So, if I have something a little [ __ ]
1:33:09up, correct me because that's where I'm
1:33:10It
1:33:10>> is different.
1:33:11>> Okay. Cuz my generation,
1:33:12>> it's me, Tutu, Jay Bucket.
1:33:16>> That's it.
1:33:16>> Done deal.
1:33:17>> I don't give a [ __ ] if it's against the
1:33:18world.
1:33:19>> If it's not my day ones, I'm not cool
1:33:21with them.
1:33:21>> Got you.
1:33:22>> I'm not clicked up with them. I'm not
1:33:23none of that. If you're not with me
1:33:25every day, we're not friends.
1:33:27>> Were you and your boys out there the
1:33:28night that the dude at Charger killed?
1:33:31Um,
1:33:32>> yes, I was out there.
1:33:33>> Okay.
1:33:34>> I was out there.
1:33:35>> Did you see what happened?
1:33:36>> No. I seen the Charger drove by me.
1:33:39Yeah. On Mar Street.
1:33:40>> Were you guys in a car?
1:33:42>> I was standing on Mar Street.
1:33:44>> Like where on Mar Street?
1:33:45>> My house where I live. Right in the
1:33:48driveway. Right.
1:33:49>> Pomit.
1:33:50>> No. Mar Street. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Pagans.
1:33:54Pal again. Yes. Yes. Yes. So the
1:33:56>> on March Street side, you know, the
1:33:58driveway you guys came through right
1:33:59there.
1:33:59>> Right there.
1:34:00>> And it drove by.
1:34:01>> Yes.
1:34:02>> And I don't know why they didn't let
1:34:03light me up, but
1:34:05I was literally like this with the
1:34:07charger. The charger's like this. I came
1:34:09out of them white Mercury.
1:34:12I was like, "Oh, oh [ __ ] Yo, what the
1:34:14[ __ ] in that black charger? That
1:34:15shit's mad weird." Then then a black
1:34:18Jeep big body came by too, right behind
1:34:21it, chasing after it. So I'm like, "Nah,
1:34:25that's weird." So I went in the driveway
1:34:27and literally that's when I heard and I
1:34:30heard the bullets
1:34:32on Mar Street from from where Jensen got
1:34:36killed from right there. The bullets are
1:34:38wheezing past me. [ __ ] was [ __ ] fully
1:34:41automatic.
1:34:43Heard all them [ __ ]
1:34:45hitting all the [ __ ] trees on top of
1:34:47me.
1:34:48>> What'd you hear about that after?
1:34:50Anything? Nothing really other than
1:34:52people trolling like how they always do.
1:34:54>> What happened to this? What happened to
1:34:56that? Go pick him up.
1:35:00I don't pay that [ __ ] No. Not no sense.
1:35:02The goofies. They won't say it to my
1:35:04face cuz I'll beat the living [ __ ] out
1:35:06of him. I [ __ ] end up killing him.
1:35:07You know,
1:35:09>> before before Fat Boy got arrested,
1:35:14we to this is a while ago, I know, but
1:35:17um
1:35:18Jal got shot. What did you hear about
1:35:21that?
1:35:23Honestly,
1:35:24we was all chilling.
1:35:26That's when I got the call like, "Yo,
1:35:29wait, who did I get the call from?" I'm
1:35:31trying to really think.
1:35:34It was somebody. But I know I pulled up
1:35:36to where where Fatboy lives right there
1:35:40cuz that's where Fatboy was.
1:35:42>> He was at his house, I think. I'm pretty
1:35:45No, it wasn't Fat Boy that called me.
1:35:48Somebody called me, bro, and said Jal
1:35:50got shot, bro. And I'm like, "How? I
1:35:51just seen him. Literally just seen him."
1:35:53So, I went to go where I just seen them
1:35:55and fat boy lot.
1:35:56>> Mhm.
1:35:57>> And he wasn't there. Fat Boy was there.
1:35:59And I'm like, "The [ __ ] What the [ __ ]
1:36:00happened?" He's like, "I don't know. I
1:36:03don't. Me and Jal were arguing and I
1:36:05left and then he got shot in the face
1:36:08with a girl.
1:36:10>> Pretty sure the girl got hit too.
1:36:13>> But but after that, like what was the I
1:36:17know Fat Boy had an idea about who did
1:36:20it cuz he [ __ ] went,
1:36:21>> bro. Come on.
1:36:24Come on. Who else beefs with all the
1:36:26modern?
1:36:27>> I know the East. I'm not saying But I'm
1:36:28saying like
1:36:30>> I don't know specifically. No, I don't.
1:36:32It never came to the light specifically.
1:36:34No.
1:36:34>> Do you know if
1:36:35>> it it always came back to the east side?
1:36:37Yes,
1:36:37>> I know. I know that
1:36:38>> it always came back to the east.
1:36:39>> But like so the so the dudes that he
1:36:41went he went the next day shot up those
1:36:46dudes, right? Was that like he thought
1:36:50those dudes did it or was it just those
1:36:51of the east? So
1:36:53>> I can't tell you specifically, but I'm
1:36:54pretty sure it was just Oh yeah, that's
1:36:56them right there.
1:36:56>> Just get back. Just the east. They're
1:36:58East kids. I'm pretty sure it was those
1:37:00specific. I'm like 50 I'm like 100%
1:37:02sure.
1:37:02>> But no one ever talked about
1:37:03>> No. Who hit him? No. We never came to
1:37:05light to that. No.
1:37:06>> No.
1:37:06>> But it was from the east side cuz who
1:37:08else be
1:37:09>> Yeah, I get that. But like I'm saying
1:37:10but specific like they got to think it
1:37:12was somebody specific. No.
1:37:14>> The east side.
1:37:15>> I know. But
1:37:16>> I swear to God my dead brother J.
1:37:18>> No, I'm just That's what I'm saying. I
1:37:19knowific
1:37:21names for me. No names.
1:37:22>> No name ever came to the light. No.
1:37:25>> It was always Yeah. That was them east.
1:37:26>> Did you ever talk to Jalil about it?
1:37:28>> Yeah. plenty of times.
1:37:30>> He never had any [ __ ]
1:37:31>> No. He said it was a black SUV. That's
1:37:33the most. He said it was a black Jeep
1:37:35pulled up on the side of him or a black
1:37:37SUV. I don't think it was a Jeep, but he
1:37:39said a black SUV.
1:37:42Said a black SUV. Pulled up on the side
1:37:43of him while he was chilling with his
1:37:45girl in the park or whatever.
1:37:47Hit him up.
1:37:50>> Anyone uh troll him after that?
1:37:55>> Like trying to claw catch for it?
1:37:57>> Nah. No, cuz the east east side really
1:38:00don't be doing that.
1:38:02>> He moved more.
1:38:04>> Yeah.
1:38:07>> And not like Quincy's dumb ass who just
1:38:08says anything.
1:38:09>> Yeah.
1:38:10>> Just to [ __ ] get laughter. Quincy
1:38:11does all that [ __ ] bro. Cuz he's
1:38:12[ __ ] my boy's BM, bro. That's why he
1:38:15be doing all that [ __ ] bro.
1:38:16>> So So none of those Chads kid none of
1:38:18the Chad kids talk about who's [ __ ]
1:38:20pulling the strings over there on the
1:38:22east. Who's No.
1:38:23>> No. Cuz probably all of them in the east
1:38:26side, right? No cap.
1:38:28>> That's my thing. So, so are you being in
1:38:30Chad aware of like the older East kids?
1:38:33Like, do you actually at least know who
1:38:35the [ __ ] to watch out for? And I know
1:38:36the younger cuz I went to school with
1:38:38them like Taj, um, Alejandro,
1:38:42um, like all them other There's like
1:38:44four of them. Derek and Jay. That's
1:38:47really the only faces I know like the
1:38:49back of my hand.
1:38:49>> What about like Little Ry or like the
1:38:51older the little older generation? You
1:38:52don't know.
1:38:53>> Little Danny's era. I know Danny cuz who
1:38:56don't know Danny? Yeah, I know Mundo cuz
1:38:58who don't know Mundo? Other than that, I
1:39:00really PD I seen this face on Instagram.
1:39:03Yeah.
1:39:03>> Uh who else can I think from the east
1:39:05side?
1:39:07>> Um
1:39:10that's really it. I don't really know.
1:39:12No East Side faces. I swear to God. If
1:39:14it if it's if it's No, it's I always
1:39:17watch out for the black dreads, you
1:39:20know,
1:39:20>> cuz all them East is black. So I I don't
1:39:23get along with negroes, you know? I
1:39:26don't I don't
1:39:28They're too weird for me. No, how they
1:39:30act for real. I'm not even trying to be
1:39:31racist, bro, or nothing cuz I'm half
1:39:33black and Puerto Rican, bro. But how
1:39:34black people move are not my type of
1:39:36circle.
1:39:37>> I got you.
1:39:39>> Straight.
1:39:41Even with them older child, the black
1:39:46weird as hell. All weird. Kiki and them.
1:39:49Oh, it's probably trying to rob me.
1:39:52>> Like allergies? Like the guys from my
1:39:53era?
1:39:54>> Yeah, probably trying to rob me. Who
1:39:55knows? I don't like I don't like older
1:39:57black. They be mad weird. Beans, too.
1:40:00He's mad weird. Picks me up, smokes. Yo,
1:40:03spark up, Z.
1:40:08All them older, you know. I don't trust
1:40:11none of them.
1:40:13They're not my circle. I don't If
1:40:15they're not JB and 22, I'm straight.
1:40:17They're not my circle. That's um how
1:40:20much do you know about um I can't
1:40:23remember what they call him. The the
1:40:25Triny kid that was over there.
1:40:26>> That's what I was going to ask you.
1:40:28>> Who?
1:40:28>> Mickey.
1:40:29>> Next.
1:40:29>> Oh, I went to school with him and I was
1:40:30in Ocean Tides with him.
1:40:32>> Is that how you know him?
1:40:33>> Yeah.
1:40:33>> Oh, Ocean Tides.
1:40:34>> He been hanging around like
1:40:36>> he only hangs in Chad cuz his sister
1:40:37lives there. Now he's sleeping in his
1:40:39sister's house.
1:40:39>> That's the only reason why he's in Chad.
1:40:42>> If he wasn't sleeping in his sister's in
1:40:44his sister's room, he won't be in Chad.
1:40:46>> Yeah. Who's his sister?
1:40:48>> Uh, home girl from right there where he
1:40:50was at.
1:40:50>> When you said you're talking about Los's
1:40:52BM Los, that's Los BM.
1:40:56>> Yeah. From the lake.
1:40:57>> No, no, no, no. Los Triny Losini.
1:41:01>> Yeah.
1:41:01>> Yeah.
1:41:01>> My heart. My heart.
1:41:03>> The brothers.
1:41:05>> No.
1:41:05>> You know who I'm talking about.
1:41:06>> I don't know her.
1:41:07>> No. No. I'm saying like you would if if
1:41:09you seen that picture, you know who I
1:41:10was.
1:41:10>> But you showed me a picture.
1:41:12>> You know Migy's a Triny.
1:41:13>> I mean, no.
1:41:14>> Or
1:41:15>> he's Triny. Yeah.
1:41:16>> Well, now I know.
1:41:18>> Now I know 100% he's 3. I mean, he I
1:41:21know he chills with him.
1:41:22>> Yeah.
1:41:23>> Yeah.
1:41:23>> All them three like all from different
1:41:25types of sides and [ __ ]
1:41:26>> Yeah.
1:41:28>> So, what do you know about him? Like,
1:41:30>> nothing much. I was in ocean ties with
1:41:32him and other than that, we don't really
1:41:35talk honestly.
1:41:38>> You don't know any of the [ __ ] that he's
1:41:39into or whatever.
1:41:40>> Honestly, he'll be like, "What's up?
1:41:42What you doing?"
1:41:42>> Yeah.
1:41:43>> Post up on the block right there. He'll
1:41:45come outside. That's it. Nothing much.
1:41:51>> He stay strapped up when he's out there.
1:41:53>> No, I never seen them with a gun in
1:41:55chat. That's one thing I never seen
1:41:56them. Haven't seen them yet with a gun
1:41:59in chat.
1:41:59>> Okay.
1:42:02if and I know you're like you got kind
1:42:06of like a smaller crew in there that
1:42:07that are your boys or whatever, but
1:42:10even back to the back to the days when
1:42:13Fatboy was running around,
1:42:15where are the guns coming from that are
1:42:17ended up in there?
1:42:18>> I really honestly I really don't know
1:42:20cuz it's hard finding guns. I swear to
1:42:22God, if I get $1,000 right now, I'm not
1:42:24going to find a gun for mad [ __ ]
1:42:25long. probably [ __ ] four or five
1:42:28months. So, somebody somebody goes to
1:42:31the shop and somebody buys it for me. I
1:42:34have somebody find somebody, oh, buy me
1:42:36a gun.
1:42:37>> Has anybody ever done that for you?
1:42:38>> No, I'm trying to get it. I'm trying to
1:42:41get one. I'm trying to get a big ass
1:42:42Draco, but I'm trying to get it legit,
1:42:44though. It's just hot.
1:42:50>> So, you don't know too much about the
1:42:52kid me?
1:42:53>> Nah, not too much.
1:42:56What do you know about him?
1:42:58Um,
1:43:04he's from the south.
1:43:06Um,
1:43:08that's home girl's brother.
1:43:11Um,
1:43:13it's really good. He was driving F-150
1:43:16the other day.
1:43:22>> No.
1:43:22>> Oh,
1:43:23>> no. I haven't seen him driving a car.
1:43:26>> Only car he been in around me is Tutu's
1:43:28girl [ __ ] His sister. Mig's sister.
1:43:32>> The Hyundai.
1:43:32>> Yeah.
1:43:33>> The SUV. The black one. Black.
1:43:35>> That's the only car I seen them in.
1:43:38Other than that, other than like 22's
1:43:41Avy. That's it.
1:43:47>> Who's been pushing the Benz?
1:43:50>> What men? My girls Benz.
1:43:51>> The silver one.
1:43:53I don't know. A
1:43:54>> silver twodoor.
1:43:58>> No.
1:43:59>> No idea.
1:44:00>> No, I haven't seen a silver twod dooror.
1:44:10>> Are there any [ __ ] community straps
1:44:12out in Chad right now?
1:44:14>> If you found that Glock, there's nothing
1:44:16else left. I'll tell you that for a
1:44:18fact. You got the last one, buddy.
1:44:21How about the four fifth that nef that
1:44:24fat boy had?
1:44:27>> Oh, I don't know.
1:44:28>> Bang out the east.
1:44:29>> I don't know. I didn't even know he had
1:44:31a 45. I thought that Glock was the only
1:44:33gun he had until he got caught with him.
1:44:35But wasn't that gun his brother's?
1:44:39>> No.
1:44:39>> Wait, what Glock was the only one he
1:44:41had?
1:44:42>> No, I'm saying the gun he got caught
1:44:43with. The Glock he got caught with?
1:44:45>> He ain't got caught with
1:44:46>> Yeah. One of them. Him or his brother
1:44:48got caught with a Glock. one of them,
1:44:50right?
1:44:50>> Oh, you
1:44:51>> Yeah.
1:44:51>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. But
1:44:56>> he had there was a he had a 45.
1:44:59>> I didn't know nothing about that.
1:45:02The only gun I knew was that Glock that
1:45:04his brother had. That's cuz I seen his
1:45:06brother with it inside inside Neali's
1:45:08house.
1:45:09>> His brother didn't have a Glock.
1:45:11>> One of them had a Glock.
1:45:13>> I know that it wasn't a brother that had
1:45:16a Glock.
1:45:16>> One of them. That tan that tan Glock,
1:45:20>> did that come from from him?
1:45:22>> No. No. No.
1:45:24>> That one got handed to me when it was
1:45:25already on the block.
1:45:28>> You don't know who put that in
1:45:30circulation?
1:45:31>> No, I don't. It's been in rotation for
1:45:32man that long. I really, if I was to say
1:45:35a name right now, I'll be bullshitting
1:45:36you, honestly.
1:45:37>> But is it possible that it came from Ne?
1:45:39>> No.
1:45:40>> No.
1:45:40>> Cuz he No, he ain't going to put a gun
1:45:43in our hands. He's not that dumb other
1:45:46than like me holding it. And that's me
1:45:50other than that.
1:45:51>> And when he would have you hold it for
1:45:52him, it would be like, "Yo, go put it
1:45:54over there for me." kind of thing.
1:45:55>> Yeah. Go put it right in the bush.
1:45:56>> Or go bring it like bring it to me over
1:45:58here. That kind of thing.
1:45:59>> Put it in the bush. And then when he
1:46:00pulls up, give it to him. That's it.
1:46:02>> Right. And that was by Filmore.
1:46:03>> Yeah.
1:46:04>> Yeah. Okay.
1:46:11Is there any like as you sit here, is
1:46:14there anything that is going on in your
1:46:15head where you're thinking, man, why
1:46:17didn't they [ __ ] ask me about that?
1:46:18I'd like to tell him about that because
1:46:19that would [ __ ] help me out.
1:46:21>> How about this? How about Bishop?
1:46:23>> Yeah, what about him?
1:46:24>> Okay,
1:46:25>> how about him?
1:46:25>> How about him?
1:46:26>> Let's [ __ ] talk about him.
1:46:27>> Look, he's just getting real horny,
1:46:28right? How about
1:46:29>> horny, but honestly, I know what [ __ ]
1:46:31time it is. If anything, I would think
1:46:33that that he aggravates you more. Hm. I
1:46:36mean, I don't know him like that. I
1:46:38mean, I seen his brother AJ when he came
1:46:40out of jail in that Camry he was in when
1:46:43he was on the bracelet. Other than that,
1:46:44I don't know too much about Bishop, but
1:46:46I know Bishop's [ __ ] has been
1:46:49When did he go sideways with Chad?
1:46:52>> I think that been like that. That's
1:46:53before my time. No cap. No cap.
1:46:58Me hanging around like all them hearing
1:47:00what's going on. Bishop never been
1:47:02valid.
1:47:02>> Really?
1:47:03>> Yeah. How about AJ?
1:47:05>> I don't. AJ's not in the streets like
1:47:07that. He's not. And if he says he's in
1:47:11the streets, he's bullshitting.
1:47:13I'll tell you that.
1:47:15Okay.
1:47:18But Bishop's [ __ ] ass.
1:47:23He even hitting up talking about, "Oh
1:47:25yeah, what happened to what happened to
1:47:26Easy?" I'm like, what? Like what are you
1:47:30really trying to say?
1:47:33He just be saying mad dumb [ __ ]
1:47:34>> What have you heard about that then?
1:47:36>> Same [ __ ] like Quincy.
1:47:38>> Yeah.
1:47:38>> He hits us up. Yo, what happened to this
1:47:42name? Want that to happen again? Yo,
1:47:45stop talking [ __ ] You're [ __ ]
1:47:47>> Where? They they do that on
1:47:49>> social media.
1:47:49>> Yeah, but which one specifically? All
1:47:51like Snap or Insta or what?
1:47:53>> Yeah, Snap, Insta.
1:47:58>> No. What? No, I'm I'm shaking my head
1:48:00about the fact the [ __ ] Bishop.
1:48:03>> Yeah.
1:48:06>> So, what's what's the whole story with
1:48:08that thing?
1:48:11>> What do you know about that whole
1:48:12[ __ ] incident?
1:48:13>> I just know that he's been banging on
1:48:15us.
1:48:16>> You know, specifically like
1:48:18>> Yeah, him.
1:48:19>> How?
1:48:20>> Cuz that's what people be saying. People
1:48:22be like, "Yeah, that was Bishop."
1:48:23>> Have you seen it?
1:48:24>> No, I never seen him actually do it. No.
1:48:27>> He's never banged on you. No. No.
1:48:30>> Who's he bang?
1:48:31>> Not that I recall. No.
1:48:32>> Who's he banged on specifically that you
1:48:33know
1:48:34>> on the block? On the whole block.
1:48:35>> On the whole block.
1:48:36>> We was all chilling there. Literally
1:48:40>> was that the night after Fatboy got
1:48:42raided?
1:48:42>> No.
1:48:43>> Remember when he banged over uh between
1:48:45the buildings?
1:48:47>> Where?
1:48:49>> The launch buildings.
1:48:50>> Where?
1:48:51>> Like
1:48:52>> in the courtyard. The
1:48:53>> launch. It was the courtyard over there
1:48:55where he used to park I think. Right.
1:48:57>> Oh, Bishop.
1:48:58>> No. No, I don't think it was over there.
1:49:00The courtyard when he banged uh that
1:49:02night on uh I think 22 was out there. He
1:49:05ran up from the car
1:49:10when two cars came by. It was a silver
1:49:12Camry and a black Camry. Yeah, they were
1:49:14following me. Yeah, they were. No, you
1:49:16just [ __ ] remind me. Thank you, bro.
1:49:18One day, right, I'm driving, right?
1:49:20Whose car am I in? I think I was in my
1:49:22Camry with the rims. I I come into chat.
1:49:25It's like 2:00 in the morning. I come
1:49:26into chat. I go right to the basketball
1:49:28court and I look behind me cuz I seen
1:49:30two cars coming in hot and homeboy in
1:49:32the back's like that putting on the shy.
1:49:35So I'm like, "Who the [ __ ] is that?"
1:49:36He's like, "You know who the [ __ ] this
1:49:38is?" Started banging. Took off from the
1:49:41Camry. My car didn't get hit. Thank
1:49:43[ __ ] god.
1:49:44>> You know who it was?
1:49:46>> No, but I'm pretty sure it was Bishop.
1:49:48Guess who the [ __ ] else is going to say
1:49:49that? You know who it is.
1:49:52>> Who else is going to be distinct about
1:49:53it? Do you know his voice?
1:49:55>> No. I think the distinct part is like
1:49:57who else is going to be that comfortable
1:49:58in chat? You feel me? To actually come
1:50:02into a car you've seen him in before or
1:50:04anything like that?
1:50:05>> No, it was a silver Camry and a black
1:50:07Camry.
1:50:10>> I never really seen Bishop honestly.
1:50:12Keep it a Ghana. I never seen him face
1:50:15to face. Never.
1:50:17>> So it's everything that you just hearing
1:50:19like word of mouth just
1:50:20>> in social media.
1:50:22>> Are you seeing like posts on social
1:50:23media? What are you seeing? He wouldn't
1:50:25post. He would like text us.
1:50:27>> He would text you.
1:50:28>> No, not me. No, my people. He would text
1:50:31him like, "Yo, what happened to what
1:50:33happened to this? You keep talking all
1:50:34hot. What happened? You want want that
1:50:36to happen? Want that to happen to you?"
1:50:39And then it's like,
1:50:40>> who over there he has a problem with?
1:50:42>> Who don't got a problem with him? Chad,
1:50:43>> is there anybody like specifically that
1:50:45he's got?
1:50:46>> The whole Chad. The whole chat.
1:50:47>> So, there wasn't one thing that fell out
1:50:50that he's got this problem now. No, I
1:50:52think it's just mostly all of them. No
1:50:54cap. Cuz if you go and ask every
1:50:56everybody about Bishop Ding, that valid.
1:51:03He used to be at one point.
1:51:06>> Not my generation. I since I've been in
1:51:08Chad, Bishop's never been valid.
1:51:12And I don't even been gang banging to
1:51:15you guys for like
1:51:18say like since I came out of jail, bro.
1:51:21That was 2021. So like two years. No
1:51:24cop.
1:51:25>> That's what That's what I meant in the
1:51:26beginning, bro. We need to sit here and
1:51:28[ __ ] put a label on.
1:51:29>> It's it's basically a fact of like
1:51:33>> you're associated with Chad.
1:51:35>> No, just just listen to how I how
1:51:37>> they're my boys. Yeah.
1:51:38>> Listen to how I wear this. And it's not
1:51:40a crime. I just I want to see as when I
1:51:42read that paper to you. I know it's not
1:51:44a crime, bro.
1:51:46What I'm getting at is the fact that
1:51:49take a normal just like everyday lady
1:51:52that's in Chad. Just because she lives
1:51:54in Chad, if the East came by, they're
1:51:56not going to bang on her.
1:51:57>> You can't you can't relate it to a lady.
1:51:59You can't.
1:52:00>> Okay. Take just a normal [ __ ]
1:52:02>> a normal guy. A a normal man.
1:52:04>> Yep. A normal man who's living in Chad.
1:52:07>> The ops come through and see him late
1:52:09night. Y
1:52:09>> they're shooting them 100%.
1:52:11>> Really?
1:52:11>> 100%.
1:52:12>> Okay.
1:52:13>> 100%. If they always just a normal guy
1:52:15or if they maybe he looks
1:52:16>> anybody anybody they shoot at
1:52:19>> and and I get it
1:52:20>> even kids
1:52:21>> dude I know
1:52:22>> even easy was [ __ ] 14 with a female
1:52:25>> with a female
1:52:27>> with him and a female
1:52:28>> but don't like I think what Matt's
1:52:30getting at too is like we know like you
1:52:32didn't you didn't have a lot of people
1:52:33to [ __ ] rely on. I'm not you know
1:52:35what I mean? So you you got to have some
1:52:37boys out there and all he's saying is
1:52:40that you're associated with them because
1:52:42those are your boys. That's cuz it's
1:52:44where you live and and how you have to
1:52:46[ __ ] survive.
1:52:46>> I personally don't consider myself a
1:52:48gang member. No. I'm not gang banging
1:52:50for Chad. I'm not I'm not I'm not You
1:52:54know what? It doesn't [ __ ] matter.
1:52:55>> Every day live by the bricks, you know?
1:52:57>> Yeah.
1:52:58>> Yeah. I live in the bricks every [ __ ]
1:53:00day. I got to deal with it.
1:53:01>> Can't [ __ ] change it. I've been
1:53:03trying to change it for the longest.
1:53:05>> Keep it a stack with you guys. I've been
1:53:06trying my hardest. I've been trying to
1:53:08save up so much money so I could go live
1:53:10with my mom in PR. But my mom's
1:53:13struggling. I've been sending her $100
1:53:14almost every [ __ ] week. So, it's
1:53:17hard. It's hard. I got to eat. I got
1:53:22habits. I got drug habits. [ __ ] ain't
1:53:24easy to break them. I'm going crazy in
1:53:26here because of this [ __ ] habit,
1:53:29you know? It's not only one,
1:53:31>> you feel me?
1:53:33>> I'm addicted to a lot of things.
1:53:36Do you have a lawyer from when you left
1:53:38from last time?
1:53:40>> I mean, I had a lawyer.
1:53:41>> Who did you use last time?
1:53:43>> I don't know. Was it like a public
1:53:44defender or
1:53:45>> No, it was a lawyer. My sister paid.
1:53:46Yeah.
1:53:47>> Okay.
1:53:47>> But the domestic recently it was a
1:53:49public defender.
1:53:50>> Oh, I got you. Okay.
1:53:52>> Yeah. And I don't want to talk about
1:53:53that since that's open or whatever.
1:53:54>> [ __ ] stupid domestic.
1:53:56>> Yeah.
1:53:58>> Um, actually, I need to do community
1:54:01service so it could close
1:54:03on the 19th. That's my court.
1:54:08So if I could do community service while
1:54:10I'm in so that could get off my record.
1:54:15Need it done. Honestly, I can't have
1:54:18that on my record.
1:54:22>> Bro, there's a lot of things that are
1:54:24like a lot more pressing issues than
1:54:26that.
1:54:27>> Yeah.
1:54:28>> I'm just keeping it a buck, bro. No,
1:54:29>> I know.
1:54:30>> You know what I'm saying? Like
1:54:32>> I mean a lot of the [ __ ] that we talked
1:54:34about I mean you got you got a lot of
1:54:36stuff kind of stacking up. You know what
1:54:38I'm saying? Um
1:54:41and I mean you may have some options but
1:54:43it just depends on it depends on you to
1:54:45be honest with you. You know what I'm
1:54:46saying?
1:54:48Um
1:54:51>> obviously you know a lot of the [ __ ]
1:54:52that's going on is it is most
1:54:54>> most of it. Yeah.
1:54:55>> You know what I'm saying? They're on the
1:54:56forefront of it.
1:54:57>> And I'm telling you what I know.
1:54:59>> And I I believe that. I believe that.
1:55:03>> I'm not going to sit here and [ __ ]
1:55:05you and and paint some pretty picture
1:55:07like it's all [ __ ] flowers and
1:55:10[ __ ] you know, daisies and [ __ ]
1:55:12It's It's not. There's a little bit of
1:55:14[ __ ] stacked against you
1:55:16>> on me.
1:55:17>> Yes.
1:55:17>> Like what? Can you tell me what am I
1:55:19being charged with though?
1:55:20>> A lot of these [ __ ] incidents we're
1:55:22talking about, bro. That's why we've
1:55:23asked
1:55:23>> Most of the incidents that we're asking
1:55:25you about You have some charges
1:55:27>> to them
1:55:28>> with Yeah.
1:55:29>> That's [ __ ] crazy.
1:55:30>> This is why we ask you like [ __ ]
1:55:33things.
1:55:34>> That's why we keep saying that's why we
1:55:35keep saying explain explain.
1:55:36>> The truth benefits you.
1:55:38>> The Audi coming through. Chad, I did not
1:55:40shoot.
1:55:42>> I wasn't even
1:55:45>> shooting with
1:55:47wait.
1:55:49everything that you've said in here like
1:55:52it's
1:55:54like it it's going to be presented to
1:55:56the people like that make decisions. You
1:55:59know what I'm saying?
1:56:00>> So don't think that that you just came
1:56:02in here and said a bunch of [ __ ] and
1:56:04where's I mean the the things that you
1:56:07said about the incidents that were that
1:56:09you're being charged with I mean that
1:56:10that's your
1:56:12>> that's that's your side of the story.
1:56:15Yeah. And and it and honestly, some of
1:56:17it looks better today than it did
1:56:19yesterday because of some of the things
1:56:21you said. I'm not going to [ __ ] you.
1:56:23All right. Now, I'm also not going to
1:56:25[ __ ] you and say that like, "Oh, you
1:56:26came in here and told the truth. Now you
1:56:28can just walk out cuz we don't
1:56:31>> I know, but I'm still there are still
1:56:33things that you have to answer for." You
1:56:35know what I mean? Um I think you got to
1:56:39think about what the [ __ ] you want to do
1:56:41going forward.
1:56:43>> I know what I want to do. want to go
1:56:46home.
1:56:50And if you guys are charging me for
1:56:51whatever you is charging me, I'm going
1:56:52to tell you my side of the story. That's
1:56:55that's kind of why we said from the jump
1:56:57like everything needs to be spot the
1:57:00[ __ ] on like every single thing, bro.
1:57:05>> Because because what you don't want,
1:57:07like I said, there's been other people
1:57:09arrested. We have other stuff to go
1:57:11through. Can you like
1:57:13>> what? Listen,
1:57:14>> what I don't want to happen is somebody
1:57:16else to sit in that seat and say, "Yeah,
1:57:20[ __ ] Isaiah [ __ ] bang down that
1:57:23car."
1:57:24>> 100%.
1:57:25>> As long as you're comfortable with that.
1:57:26>> I'm But you got to be comfortable with
1:57:28that.
1:57:29>> I am.
1:57:29>> And not not just because you think your
1:57:31boys aren't going to say [ __ ] about you.
1:57:33>> Even if they do, they ain't going to say
1:57:34it was me cuz I didn't shoot.
1:57:35>> Okay.
1:57:35>> I know that for a fact.
1:57:37>> Right. That's what I'm saying. And not
1:57:38just with that incident, but with all
1:57:40this other [ __ ] that we talked about,
1:57:41right?
1:57:42>> Oh, he he Oh, yeah, he makes cocoa plays
1:57:44or Yeah, he does, you know, whatever.
1:57:46Just whatever. Whatever we talked about.
1:57:50Okay.
1:57:51>> Is there anything on your phone that's
1:57:53going to say different
1:57:55coke plays? Any of that 100%.
1:57:58>> I mean, probably one Coke play, but
1:58:01that's here or there.
1:58:03>> That's That's one Coke play is not here
1:58:05or there. That's more than one.
1:58:06>> No. No, no. She only calls me once. She
1:58:08literally called me once.
1:58:10>> Who was that?
1:58:11>> Some girl.
1:58:12>> Where was that?
1:58:13>> A couple days ago.
1:58:14>> Okay. So, you made a coke play a couple
1:58:15days ago.
1:58:16>> Yeah, but that was literally a 20 sack.
1:58:18>> All right. Did that come from the
1:58:20[ __ ] Coke that you had today?
1:58:23>> Uh, no.
1:58:25>> No,
1:58:25>> no, no, it's not.
1:58:27>> Okay.
1:58:29So,
1:58:32so now you're saying, see, this is why
1:58:34it's important, right? What's going to
1:58:36happen is we have your phone.
1:58:39>> Okay.
1:58:40>> There's two ways we can deal with this.
1:58:43>> Um, you can give us consent and your
1:58:46password and we can verify this stuff
1:58:48that you're saying, which again goes a
1:58:51long way to being
1:58:51>> bring me my phone. I'll open it for you
1:58:53right now.
1:58:55>> We don't have it right now. We have a
1:58:56form you can sign and just say to that
1:58:58basically
1:58:59>> you can have whatever you want.
1:59:00>> Okay. I mean investigation. It's your
1:59:02it's your right. You don't have to. But
1:59:04if if that's what you want to do, then
1:59:05that's what we'll do.
1:59:06>> And and and if I don't,
1:59:08>> you're going to get a warrant for it,
1:59:09right?
1:59:09>> Correct. We'll apply for a warrant
1:59:10anyways.
1:59:11>> If the warrants granted, which we got 12
1:59:14warrants today, so I don't know that it
1:59:15would be an issue, but we have to apply
1:59:17for it.
1:59:17>> Well, god damn.
1:59:18>> The judge could say judge could say no.
1:59:20>> But 12 was a lot.
1:59:22>> Again,
1:59:23you going forward, it means something to
1:59:25be able to say, "Yeah, he said we he
1:59:27gave us consent for the phone."
1:59:28>> Yes, of course. Okay. I I'm telling you,
1:59:30I give you consent to search my phone.
1:59:32All right. Yes.
1:59:35>> Could search my phone. You
1:59:35>> want water?
1:59:36>> No, I'm good.
1:59:39>> So, so we got that.
1:59:44But knowing that and knowing what's in
1:59:46your phone,
1:59:48is there anything else you want to
1:59:50>> like what?
1:59:51>> So, so you said the Coke Play cuz cuz an
1:59:54hour ago you adamantly said, "I've never
1:59:57made a Coke play." Maybe you forgot
1:59:59>> cuz I really don't sell Coke.
2:00:00>> I know. But you've made plays. You've
2:00:02made coke plays
2:00:02>> here and there cuz I had it
2:00:04>> here and there. I know. I get it. But
2:00:05that's and that's what we're talking
2:00:06about. How many coke plays are going to
2:00:08be in the phone?
2:00:09>> Not a lot.
2:00:11>> What's not a lot? 10.
2:00:12>> Probably that one girl.
2:00:13>> That one girl. Yeah. But a couple times
2:00:15maybe. Just once?
2:00:16>> Probably twice.
2:00:17>> Probably twice.
2:00:18>> Not once. Once. Exactly one time.
2:00:20>> More than once, but less than three
2:00:21times.
2:00:22>> Exactly one time.
2:00:23>> Okay. All right. Um, is there going to
2:00:25be any other [ __ ] in there that we're
2:00:27going to be like, "Fuck."
2:00:29>> Like what though? about shoots, about
2:00:31guns,
2:00:31>> any of the stuff that we're talking
2:00:32about,
2:00:33>> anything that we talked about for the
2:00:34last hour and a half.
2:00:35>> You're probably going to see me having
2:00:37pictures with guns, that's it.
2:00:39>> Okay,
2:00:40>> I will tell you right now
2:00:43that
2:00:45something that will
2:00:47helps you out is
2:00:51we talked about what we're trying to do
2:00:52here, right? Every [ __ ] gun that's on
2:00:54the street, every block gun, every gun
2:00:56that's on the street has a chance of
2:00:58[ __ ] killing somebody. Yes. And I get
2:01:00it. I get it that it might kill somebody
2:01:03who's not your boy, but it's
2:01:06>> It really don't matter. It's killing
2:01:07somebody.
2:01:07>> Exactly. So, if you can help us get guns
2:01:11off the street, that's a huge deal. So,
2:01:14if if you have pictures of you and your
2:01:16phone holding guns that you know where
2:01:18those guns are,
2:01:19>> you already have the gun that I got in
2:01:21my phone. Okay,
2:01:22>> that's the black gun.
2:01:23>> Okay,
2:01:23>> it's the gold gun.
2:01:24>> That's what I'm asking.
2:01:25>> I have pictures with that black gun.
2:01:26Yes.
2:01:27>> Okay, so that now that makes it even
2:01:30more important about what I asked you
2:01:32before.
2:01:33>> What?
2:01:34>> Is that gun going to come back to any
2:01:36other shootings?
2:01:37>> No. Not that I know of. No. Not me
2:01:39shooting.
2:01:39>> No.
2:01:40>> All right.
2:01:40>> 100%.
2:01:42>> All right.
2:01:42>> Or any other shootings that you know
2:01:44people did with that gun?
2:01:46>> No.
2:01:46>> So, let's just say just a hypothetical.
2:01:49[ __ ] I've got that gun, right? And I
2:01:52give it to Mike and I don't see Mike for
2:01:553 days and Mike gives it back and I'm
2:01:57like, "Damn, all my [ __ ] food's gone
2:02:00or whatever." And Mike's like, "Yeah, I
2:02:02[ __ ] you know, I saw an op or
2:02:04whatever." Something like that. Has that
2:02:06ever happened?
2:02:07>> No, because it's always like every time
2:02:09I go for the gun, it's there.
2:02:11>> Yeah.
2:02:12>> So, there's a bunch of us that know
2:02:15where it's at, you know? And 100% like
2:02:18if I if I picked you up and dropped you
2:02:20in Chad right now and you needed a
2:02:22burner,
2:02:24>> I could try to get one. Yeah. But no,
2:02:26>> I'm saying
2:02:27>> No, I can't cuz you took the only one
2:02:28that I know.
2:02:29>> That That's what I'm getting at. If If I
2:02:31dropped you in Chad tonight, in your
2:02:34mind, do you know that there's a gun
2:02:36behind some bush that
2:02:38>> No, because that's the only gun I know.
2:02:40>> Okay.
2:02:40>> I mean, I could try.
2:02:42>> I'm just asking.
2:02:42>> I'll probably try. I I could try. Yo,
2:02:45what's up? I need a grip real quick.
2:02:46>> Bro, to be honest, I don't have I can't
2:02:47take you and put you back out on Chad.
2:02:49But I'm saying like
2:02:50>> But I'm saying to you, if I was to go to
2:02:53Chad and ask around, I'll probably get a
2:02:55gun.
2:02:56>> I'll probably get a gun. Yeah.
2:02:57>> Who would you ask?
2:02:58>> Anybody. Everybody. Cuz now I'm going to
2:03:02be strapless,
2:03:03>> right?
2:03:05>> So now I'm going to have to try to find
2:03:06one. And if not,
2:03:09either way, I've been trying to change
2:03:11my [ __ ] life, bro. For like these
2:03:13past two months, bro. I've been going
2:03:14through hell, bro.
2:03:15>> Been going through hell, bro. Not even 2
2:03:17months since my mom's been gone. Since I
2:03:20lived in Fillmore by myself, struggling
2:03:22for food, you know? I've been trying to
2:03:24change my [ __ ]
2:03:25>> What would you if this [ __ ] wasn't in
2:03:27your way, right? If if if that went
2:03:32away, which again,
2:03:33>> Huh?
2:03:33>> Well, you this whole all your trouble,
2:03:36all this [ __ ] now that you're up
2:03:37against,
2:03:38>> what would you do? Let's say I would do
2:03:41what would you do? What would you do?
2:03:42Would you [ __ ] stay around, Chad?
2:03:44>> I'm not, bro. When I get out these cuffs
2:03:46and I get released, you ain't going to
2:03:48see me around, bro. I'm going to be with
2:03:50my girl and that's it. I I had an
2:03:53interview. What's today?
2:03:54>> Today's the 12th.
2:03:55>> Tuesday, right?
2:03:56>> I had an interview today at Pepsi. So, I
2:03:58missed that. So, now I'm going to have
2:03:59to go back on the lead and find another
2:04:00job.
2:04:01>> Yes. I'mma go out when I get out. You
2:04:04ain't going to catch me in the mix at
2:04:06all. 100%.
2:04:10And that's I I could tell you I could
2:04:12tell you that straight up. And you could
2:04:14even watch me when I get released. You
2:04:16guys could watch me. No cap.
2:04:19I mean, you guys do watch me regardless.
2:04:21So
2:04:51What's your phone number right now?
2:04:53>> Uh 654763.
2:04:58>> That's only
2:05:00>> 401.
2:05:01>> Mhm.
2:05:02>> That's only six numbers though. So would
2:05:04you say 65? 401654763.
2:05:07>> Oh 763. Oh, I got you. Okay.
2:05:11>> 65473,
2:05:13right? You had another one before that.
2:05:15>> Uh yeah, but no, that was a disconnected
2:05:18phone. Text now numbers and [ __ ]
2:05:20>> That's my iPhone. My 14 that got all
2:05:22[ __ ] up.
2:05:23>> Yeah. Do you remember the number for
2:05:24that one?
2:05:25>> Yeah, that's that one.
2:05:25>> Oh, that's that one.
2:05:52So, can I help you guys with anything
2:05:54else? Cuz I'm trying to be the best I
2:05:56can, man. This
2:05:57>> I'm trying to really like
2:05:58>> What phone What phone did we have here
2:06:00today?
2:06:00>> The iPhone, right?
2:06:01>> Real quick. Yeah.
2:06:03>> Oh,
2:06:03>> it's all crushed up.
2:06:05>> Isn't it Android?
2:06:05>> Is it an Android?
2:06:07>> Not my phone.
2:06:09>> You had it on the couch, right?
2:06:11>> No, my my iPhone was charging.
2:06:13>> Okay.
2:06:14>> Up on the counter.
2:06:16>> Yep.
2:06:16>> Okay.
2:06:17>> It's got like a ca like a case, right?
2:06:18>> No, it's all it's all beat up.
2:06:20>> All cracked up.
2:06:20>> Yeah. Okay.
2:06:21>> Whose phones are they?
2:06:23>> I don't know. Those are probably my my
2:06:25cousin's kids phones. They all got
2:06:28Androids in the house.
2:06:29>> There was like a It was like a phone on
2:06:30the couch you were sleeping on. That's
2:06:32not yours.
2:06:33>> No.
2:06:33>> Okay.
2:06:34>> That's probably one of my cousin's kids.
2:06:36>> Okay.
2:06:36>> Cuz they got mad. All Androids.
2:06:38>> All right.
2:06:39>> Do you know what uh what model iPhone
2:06:41this is?
2:06:42>> 14 plus.
2:06:44It's all cracked. It's all cracked up.
2:06:46You can't miss it. It's blue. You can
2:06:48barely tell it's blue cuz it's all
2:06:49cracked up.
2:07:03Six-digit password or four?
2:07:06>> H 1 2 3 4 5 six
2:07:12>> six.
2:07:14>> I have to I had to do the pattern my
2:07:16phone. So, six numbers.
2:07:19>> Do you know what it is? 96
2:07:2498
2:07:2695. It literally goes like that.
2:07:30Like you got an iPhone.
2:07:32>> So you have some [ __ ] like this.
2:07:34>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look. So it's an
2:07:35Android.
2:07:36>> No, it's not.
2:07:36>> No. No. He's You're saying where the
2:07:38numbers are?
2:07:38>> Yeah.
2:07:39>> You don't draw like a pattern.
2:07:40>> No.
2:07:40>> Yeah. Yeah.
2:07:44>> Yeah.
2:07:4796 969895
2:07:5398
2:07:54>> 969895
2:07:56>> Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah my phone my phone
2:07:57my phone my phone my phone 969895
2:08:03it's a pattern you got to look at it up
2:08:06down and then in the middle
2:08:12>> 96 98
2:08:14>> 95
2:08:14>> 95
2:08:15>> It's like a little pattern up then to
2:08:17the to the left and then to the middle.
2:08:22>> This the same thing almost like the
2:08:24right on the piano.
2:08:26>> I'm going to read it to you. I know.
2:08:27>> No, I know. I was I already know. That's
2:08:29for my phone. I'm giving you consent.
2:08:34Where? Right here. Right.
2:08:36>> Yep.
2:08:44Why don't you read over?
2:08:47>> Um, I have been a Wait, wait. From up
2:08:49here?
2:08:49>> Yeah. Just so you you know,
2:08:52>> been asked by Providence Police blah
2:08:53blah blah blah blah to search blah blah
2:08:55blah blah blah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Medium
2:09:00and I own control or have access for any
2:09:06evidence of crime other than other other
2:09:10violation of the law.
2:09:13>> Yeah.
2:09:14>> You still good with it?
2:09:16>> Why wouldn't I be?
2:09:16>> Okay. I just want I just want you to
2:09:18understand it. I don't want you to think
2:09:19>> if you have questions.
2:09:20>> We're [ __ ] tricking you.
2:09:22>> No, that's it. It is what it is. We're
2:09:23going to we're going to search your
2:09:25phone
2:09:25>> for the things that we talked about and
2:09:27other things. And
2:09:28>> and like
2:09:29>> the most you'll probably see is me
2:09:31taking pictures with with with that gun.
2:09:33>> Just that gun?
2:09:34>> Yeah.
2:09:34>> The black gun.
2:09:35>> Okay.
2:09:36>> Cuz I don't
2:09:37>> The bronze joint.
2:09:38>> Yeah. I don't I don't ask people for
2:09:39guns. That's one thing I don't.
2:09:41>> Okay.
2:09:43>> All right.
2:09:44>> Is there any Just getting out of it. Is
2:09:47there any silly [ __ ] that's on there
2:09:48that we're going to that you can think
2:09:50of? Just try to think anything that
2:09:52we're going to want to come back a
2:09:53second time and be like, "Hey, what
2:09:55what's this about, bro? Just let's be
2:09:57upfront now about it."
2:09:58>> Nope.
2:09:58>> No.
2:09:59>> No.
2:09:59>> Okay.
2:10:00>> Not really. No.
2:10:02>> It's different than no spins, brother.
2:10:05>> Other than we plays and [ __ ] you're
2:10:06going to see mad plays.
2:10:07>> Yeah. Yeah,
2:10:07>> you see people hitting me up. Yo, you
2:10:09got weed.
2:10:09>> With the exception of the one or two
2:10:10coke plays, it's all we plays.
2:10:12>> It's only one girl that hits me up for
2:10:13coke.
2:10:14>> Okay.
2:10:14>> Who was that?
2:10:14>> Maria.
2:10:16>> Maria? Who?
2:10:17>> I'm not going to go [ __ ] go.
2:10:19>> Is she is she the phone is Maria or she
2:10:22>> on Facebook? Maria.
2:10:23>> Oh, she hits up on Facebook for it.
2:10:24Okay.
2:10:24>> Her name is Maria.
2:10:26>> And you'll see it on my Facebook.
2:10:27>> And that's You said
2:10:28>> it's on my other Facebook.
2:10:29>> That's just little plays to her, right?
2:10:31>> On my Young and Got Block Facebook.
2:10:34>> Young and Got Block.
2:10:35>> Yeah. Don't you have like a Remy
2:10:37>> Gazelle?
2:10:38>> That's you.
2:10:38>> Yes.
2:10:39>> Yeah. Okay.
2:10:40>> Then I have two. I have that one and
2:10:42Young and Got Blocked.
2:10:43>> Young and Got Blocked.
2:10:44>> Young and Got Blocked is is my
2:10:45Instagram, but it's just the Facebook.
2:10:47You know how you always have to link one
2:10:48up?
2:10:49>> I get what I'm saying.
2:10:50>> Yeah.
2:10:50>> So your Insta is Young and Got.
2:10:53>> Do you have another Remy one?
2:10:54>> Remy Gaza? No.
2:10:56>> No.
2:10:56>> It's that Remy Gaza.
2:10:57>> Okay.
2:10:58>> Oh, I had Remyo.
2:10:59>> Remy?
2:11:00>> Yeah.
2:11:00>> Yeah. That was a while ago though.
2:11:02>> Yeah.
2:11:02>> Yeah.
2:11:02>> That was when I had like the Wi-Fi boxes
2:11:04and [ __ ]
2:11:04>> Yep. And I lost that password. I don't
2:11:06know. I've been trying to get into that
2:11:08Remy soon for M.
2:11:10>> All right. The the Facebook one.
2:11:14Do you know your Facebook login info?
2:11:17>> It's going to be on the phone.
2:11:18>> Okay. But is that message going to be on
2:11:19there?
2:11:20>> Yes.
2:11:23>> This asks the same thing. You know the
2:11:24username and like the password? I know
2:11:26it's going to be on the phone.
2:11:27>> It's going to be saved on there.
2:11:28>> So you want me to just go through the
2:11:29phone with it? You're saying rather than
2:11:31[ __ ]
2:11:32>> what?
2:11:32>> Clearing it up here.
2:11:33>> What do you mean clearing it up here?
2:11:34Like I'm saying, it also gives the
2:11:36option for your Facebook username and
2:11:39the login.
2:11:40>> Mhm.
2:11:41>> It just kind of [ __ ] speeds things.
2:11:45>> Like if you're saying right now,
2:11:47>> it don't really matter, right? It's the
2:11:48same.
2:11:49>> I think it it might [ __ ]
2:11:50>> be better.
2:11:50>> Help quick things while you're here. If
2:11:52there's questions, then we don't have to
2:11:54[ __ ] It's up to you, bro.
2:11:55>> My password for my Instagram,
2:11:58my username.
2:12:01It got to be my number. that number.
2:12:04>> This 969
2:12:06>> 6547063.
2:12:08It got to be that number
2:12:09>> because it can't be username is the
2:12:11username.
2:12:13>> You could do this underscore married to
2:12:15the bread underscore. That's the that's
2:12:18the username. You could use your
2:12:19username as a login.
2:12:23>> So username
2:12:25underscore married to the bread a r.
2:12:30>> That's the gram, right? That's two t.
2:12:32Mhm. to the bread. D a bread underscore.
2:12:44And what would the password be for that?
2:12:46>> Um
2:12:52no.
2:12:58Brick boy 130
2:13:01lowercase. Yeah. No, capital B.
2:13:05Brick boy 130. I really hope it's that
2:13:07one. I think that's my other Facebook.
2:13:10>> Capital B. R I C K?
2:13:12>> Yep. Bully 130.
2:13:13>> E O Y.
2:13:14>> Capital B again. Or
2:13:15>> lowerase B 130.
2:13:22>> And do you know your Facebook off top or
2:13:24>> same thing?
2:13:25>> What about for the username? It's the
2:13:27Remy Kadza.
2:13:28>> Yeah.
2:13:28>> And same password.
2:13:29>> Yeah. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No,
2:13:32you could log in with that.
2:13:33>> You could log in with that with the
2:13:35number. Remember I told you the
2:13:36Facebook's the number
2:13:37>> the phone number.
2:13:38>> The Facebook is the the the number is
2:13:41the the username to Facebook.
2:13:43>> Yep.
2:13:43>> With the same password.
2:13:45>> And then Instagram is married to the
2:13:46bread. That's how that's how I log in
2:13:48cuz I don't really remember all my
2:13:49passwords like that, you know.
2:14:07All
2:14:16right.
2:14:17>> So, outside of [ __ ] silly plays,
2:14:19there's nothing crazy.
2:14:20>> Nah,
2:14:21>> never touch.
2:14:25>> Any any conversations on there about
2:14:28uh any of the
2:14:31banging back and forth?
2:14:33>> No.
2:14:34>> No. Okay.
2:14:36>> No. probably the Audi one. That's it.
2:14:38>> Okay.
2:14:39>> Me me sending the the video to people
2:14:41like, "Yo, look, that [ __ ] was a
2:14:42stolie." That's it.
2:14:44>> Okay.
2:14:46>> Is there any back and forth with you and
2:14:48Tutu about it? Nothing like that?
2:14:50>> No.
2:14:51>> Okay.
2:14:51>> What about What about the stolen car the
2:14:53other day?
2:14:54>> Which one?
2:14:55>> The Chrysler?
2:14:56>> No.
2:14:56>> Nothing about that?
2:14:57>> I don't know. That [ __ ] had nothing to
2:14:58do with me.
2:15:00>> No cap.
2:15:01>> All right.
2:15:04>> Who's Highlander? Wild Island there.
2:15:07When
2:15:07>> you were working the other day,
2:15:08>> the blue one, my girls, is it?
2:15:10>> Yeah. Josyn's. That's Joslyn's mom's.
2:15:13>> She was following me, huh? I thought I
2:15:15was low.
2:15:17I thought I was low in that [ __ ] You
2:15:19[ __ ]
2:15:21Yeah. I'm like, "Yeah, I'm going to have
2:15:22her pick me up and I'm going to be low."
2:15:24[ __ ] out of here. I'm not low.
2:15:29>> All right, bro. All right. All right.
2:15:32I'm going to peek through some of this
2:15:33[ __ ] figure some things out if we have
2:15:35questions.
2:15:35>> Can I call my girl now?
2:15:37>> Yeah.
2:15:37>> Thank you.
2:15:38>> Also, um, prior to that, again, same
2:15:41with all this, do you want to consent
2:15:43for the DNA swab?
2:15:44>> What do you mean DNA swab?
2:15:46>> It's like a [ __ ] Q-tip. They swab the
2:15:48inside of your mouth and it's checked
2:15:50against the [ __ ] the gun.
2:15:52>> My fingerprints are on that gun.
2:15:54>> It's just it's it's like one of those
2:15:56things, bro. It's a formality type
2:15:57thing. So if it's something again, if
2:16:00you can consent to it, that's fine. The
2:16:03guy comes up here, takes 3 seconds.
2:16:04Again, it's your right to say no. That's
2:16:07okay.
2:16:07>> You're going to do it regardless.
2:16:08>> Well, I'm going to apply for a search
2:16:10warrant if that's the case. And if it
2:16:12gets granted, we're going to do it.
2:16:13>> Go get the paper. I'll sign it right
2:16:14now.
2:16:14>> Okay.
2:16:17>> My fingerprints are on that gun. You
2:16:18already know.
2:16:20>> When's the Let me ask you this.
2:16:23>> 4 days ago.
2:16:24>> I had it in the satchel.
2:16:25>> In your satchel where? and Chad
2:16:28>> like just walking around.
2:16:29>> Yeah.
2:16:29>> Okay.
2:16:30>> Because I seen a [ __ ] weird ass
2:16:31Ultima.
2:16:32>> A white one with mask blades.
2:16:35>> I think I know that. I'm So
2:16:38we searched the house at 44. Puppy
2:16:41answer it.
2:16:42>> Mine the one I was in.
2:16:43>> Yeah.
2:16:43>> Okay.
2:16:45>> We did not find a gun in that house.
2:16:47>> I don't Yeah. I don't I don't carry guns
2:16:49like that.
2:16:49>> Okay.
2:16:50>> I don't own a gun. I don't carry them
2:16:52like that. Where I lay my head, I don't
2:16:54[ __ ]
2:16:55>> Okay.
2:16:55>> Never. I don't like
2:16:57>> But the the You said you had your hands
2:17:00on that Glock the other day.
2:17:01>> Yeah. Not too long ago.
2:17:02>> Pick Where did you get it from?
2:17:04>> The bushes.
2:17:05>> Where it was?
2:17:06>> Mhm.
2:17:06>> Was it near 35 March?
2:17:08>> It was at the basketball court. Right in
2:17:09the bushes.
2:17:11>> The ones that they took off clean
2:17:14right there.
2:17:15>> And where did you put it when you were
2:17:16done with it?
2:17:17>> Right back.
2:17:17>> Right back. The same place.
2:17:23>> Where Where is your satchel?
2:17:25>> My satchel? Yeah,
2:17:26>> I lost that [ __ ]
2:17:29>> I don't know. I was drunk as [ __ ] and I
2:17:32really don't drink. So when I drink I
2:17:34get and I lost that whole satchel with
2:17:37mad money in it. All that it's probably
2:17:40honestly somewhere mad clothes. It's
2:17:42probably in my house honestly.
2:17:43>> Where was that?
2:17:44>> Or in the It was probably in the Mercury
2:17:47where all my [ __ ] is in the trunk.
2:17:49>> You know my shoes and [ __ ] It was a
2:17:51champion satchel or like a Gucci one,
2:17:55wasn't it?
2:17:56>> Something like that. I think it was like
2:18:01I don't know. It was brown. It was
2:18:03brown.
2:18:04>> Like a checkered one.
2:18:05>> No, it was brown.
2:18:07>> It's all brown. Straight brown.
2:18:08>> Yeah, on the outside was brown.
2:18:11>> You lost it. You don't know where where
2:18:13where that's at.
2:18:14>> I misplaced it. Yeah, I don't know where
2:18:15it's at. It's probably somewhere in
2:18:17there cuz I get drunk and I push this up
2:18:19places and I don't remember honestly.
2:18:23It's probably in all my [ __ ]
2:18:26I get drunk, take I come home, take
2:18:28everything off, put everything where my
2:18:29box is, and that's it. Boom. Gone.
2:18:32>> I mean, you didn't have a whole lot of
2:18:33Not a whole lot of your stuff was in
2:18:35that house, right? Like almost nothing.
2:18:36>> That's my stuff.
2:18:37>> That's my stuff.
2:18:39>> Whatever I had is mine.
2:18:40>> But in your car?
2:18:41>> Mhm.
2:18:42>> Mostly.
2:18:42>> That's not my car. But
2:18:44>> Well, you know what I'm saying.
2:18:44>> In the trunk.
2:18:45>> Yeah. where I have my two bags, three
2:18:47bags, and then all my shoes.
2:19:08All
2:19:16right.
2:19:19Same thing. Let me explain it to you.
2:19:22Sent to search for local swab. I put
2:19:24today's date. The address CCR Isaiah is
2:19:29102804.
2:19:30>> Mhm.
2:19:32>> 2804.
2:19:39I, Isaiah Isim, have been informed of my
2:19:42right not to have the search made of my
2:19:43persons without a search warrant and my
2:19:45right to refuse to consent to such a
2:19:48search.
2:19:49Do authorize detectives of the
2:19:51Providence Police Department to conduct
2:19:53a buckle swap. I give my consent to this
2:19:55search knowing that if any incriminating
2:19:57evidence is found, it can be used
2:19:59against me in court. I give this written
2:20:01permission to the detectives named above
2:20:04voluntarily without any threats,
2:20:06promises of any kind. Say that to you
2:20:10saying you're good with it.
2:20:13I signed here. I am going to be your
2:20:15witness.
2:20:20You understand that consent? You see
2:20:23where the X is.
2:20:29The detective who's going to do that is
2:20:31coming up. It's a 3se secondond thing.
2:20:33He's got a long Q-tip. Sticks on the
2:20:36side of your mouth. Swaps both sides.
2:20:37Done. Done.
2:20:38>> That's for the for the for the
2:20:40fingerprints on the gun, right?
2:20:41>> The DNA like so oils, things like that.
2:20:44Yes. That's what
2:20:45>> I told you I touched that gun.
2:20:47>> I know. It's like I said, it's a
2:20:48formality type thing as far as just
2:20:50>> Yeah. It just cuz other people have
2:20:53touched that gun, right? So like
2:20:54>> it's the black gun.
2:20:55>> Yeah.
2:20:55>> I don't know. It's probably the whole
2:20:57chat probably touched it.
2:20:58>> Oh, I get you.
2:21:02>> Yeah.
2:21:08Nothing else in the back of your head
2:21:09sitting right now that you think
2:21:12>> whatever. Let me show you. Tell me so I
2:21:13can help you.
2:21:17If I know about it, I'm going to tell
2:21:19you I know about it. keys.
2:21:23I was in jail for that.
2:21:26That [ __ ] hurt me to the most. That was
2:21:29my right-hand man right there. That was
2:21:31my brother.
2:21:33That [ __ ] killed him.
2:21:35Who do you hear side of town? Anything
2:21:39>> from the lake?
2:21:40>> They always said it's the lakeside.
2:21:42>> Really? Anybody specific that they drop?
2:21:47>> It's always from the lakeside. It's
2:21:49always always lakeside n bringing up JK.
2:21:52>> Really?
2:21:52>> Yeah. East don't even bring it up.
2:21:56>> Is that why you perked up earlier when I
2:21:57said Los? You thought I meant Los from
2:22:00the lake?
2:22:00>> Mhm.
2:22:02>> Yes.
2:22:02>> Do they gear it towards him or you just
2:22:04know him cuz he's late?
2:22:05>> I just know him cuz he's late.
2:22:06>> Gotcha.
2:22:08Is he one of the dudes disrespecting
2:22:09like crazy?
2:22:11>> Yeah. Breaking Jinky candles. Yes.
2:22:13>> Really?
2:22:13>> Yes. I seen the non-s snap.
2:22:16>> They put they put that [ __ ] up. H
2:22:30[ __ ] thing, bro. So, there's nothing
2:22:34Let me ask you this. Is there anybody
2:22:37in the hood
2:22:39that you know in your head
2:22:43would know direct knowledge that could
2:22:47help us
2:22:49find the person who killed any of your
2:22:51friends?
2:22:52>> I mean, they probably know the same [ __ ]
2:22:54I do.
2:22:55>> Yeah. Not like word of mouth. I'm
2:22:57talking about you know somebody in Chad
2:22:59that might have been looking out a
2:23:01window and seen something and you guys
2:23:02are like come on just [ __ ] come
2:23:04forward say something like that's our
2:23:06[ __ ] boy.
2:23:11>> No,
2:23:11>> there's nobody that you can think of
2:23:13that could help us [ __ ]
2:23:15>> The only thing I could think of is when
2:23:16that girl got shot right next to where
2:23:18Easy got shot.
2:23:19>> Yeah.
2:23:19>> And my my brother's my step my stepb
2:23:22brother's girl was with her.
2:23:24>> Your step brother's girl was
2:23:26>> Yeah. Right there. the house that I ran
2:23:27into.
2:23:28>> Well, I did run into it, but you know
2:23:30>> her. Pretty sure you guys know her.
2:23:33>> Oo girl.
2:23:35>> Yes.
2:23:35>> Wow.
2:23:37>> Where's she living now, though?
2:23:38>> I don't know.
2:23:39>> Cuz she she got bounced from there,
2:23:41right?
2:23:42>> I haven't even spoke to them. I honestly
2:23:44thought it was them kicking me out, but
2:23:46I seen that they actually moved out. So,
2:23:49I'm like, "Oh [ __ ] they wasn't lying."
2:23:51I thought they were just trying to kick
2:23:52me out to kick me out, you know?
2:23:59So, you think you said her sister or
2:24:01her?
2:24:01>> No, her.
2:24:02>> Her.
2:24:02>> She definitely seen who shot her cuz she
2:24:05was there with her when she got shot.
2:24:07She was in the passenger seat and she's
2:24:09not she she she she could say whatever
2:24:12she want, bro. But that she said that
2:24:14the car pulled up side to side and tried
2:24:16to make her drop the window.
2:24:18>> That's what she said to me.
2:24:21>> You already had this dropped.
2:24:22>> Yes. The car pulled up next to the black
2:24:25Hyundai that they were in the little
2:24:26compact [ __ ]
2:24:28>> with the with with with Bristol Britney.
2:24:31Britney Britney with Britney. Um she
2:24:34said that the car pulled up was trying
2:24:36to make them drop the window. Britney
2:24:39didn't want to drop the window so she
2:24:40put it in reverse and like try to take
2:24:42off and that's why she got shot.
2:24:46>> Has she told any of you guys?
2:24:48>> She told exactly what I just said.
2:24:50>> Okay. She didn't say she knew who it
2:24:52was. She always says, "No, I couldn't I
2:24:55couldn't really see. It was too fast."
2:24:57And that's what she always says. But I'm
2:24:59pretty sure
2:24:59>> I think that's right.
2:25:00>> [ __ ] I think it's [ __ ] bro.
2:25:02Cuz if you're sitting in a car and a car
2:25:04pulls up next to you, you're going to
2:25:06see who's who the [ __ ] it is.
2:25:07>> Put this one around.
2:25:08>> Yeah.
2:25:09>> You're going to see 100%.
2:25:11>> So that's why I always think she's
2:25:12always she's
2:25:13>> You think she's just scared to talk?
2:25:15Yeah.
2:25:17>> Yeah.
2:25:30You guys haven't heard anything. I I
2:25:32know we've talked about some of that
2:25:34[ __ ] bro. Uh
2:25:37who was in that charger?
2:25:41>> Not really. No.
2:25:43>> Well, what's the really what's the
2:25:45what's the little piece that heard?
2:25:47>> The ops.
2:25:49Well, obviously ops, but like I mean cuz
2:25:51who the [ __ ] you know?
2:25:53>> I really honestly keep it a Ghana when
2:25:55when when when when they got shot and I
2:25:57ran over there. I'm like, "Yo, you
2:25:58didn't see nobody." They said it was
2:26:00black people. It was a black pe it was a
2:26:03black person that jumped out and shot at
2:26:04them. And the only black people with
2:26:07beef is from the east. So in my head,
2:26:09that was the east side that did that.
2:26:11>> Are any of them claiming it?
2:26:13>> No.
2:26:13>> No. I know you said they don't usually
2:26:16just
2:26:18Was um was was anybody out there in the
2:26:21Avalon that night?
2:26:22>> Which one?
2:26:23>> The um your boys.
2:26:25>> Tutus.
2:26:26>> Tutus. Was he out there? Did he drive
2:26:28around after that?
2:26:30>> I don't know cuz I was on Marry.
2:26:32>> He probably was honestly cuz it's Chad.
2:26:34We're always in Chad. It's where we
2:26:35live.
2:26:37>> We were saying I was sitting right on
2:26:38Marry. What happened at the cookout? I
2:26:41heard there was a big [ __ ] beef on
2:26:43Chad day.
2:26:45>> Oh, I was on the moped when that
2:26:46happened.
2:26:46>> Yeah. What the [ __ ] was that?
2:26:48>> I don't know. I really don't know. It
2:26:50was just mad people arguing. I'm like,
2:26:51what the [ __ ] going on?
2:26:53>> What's up with uh
2:26:56with [ __ ] uh
2:27:00what's his [ __ ] name? Why am I trying
2:27:01to point Jakle?
2:27:03>> What's that?
2:27:04>> What's he up to? Homeboy with the
2:27:06[ __ ] dreads. He's got the uh Smithia
2:27:10son.
2:27:12>> His little brother M thing.
2:27:14>> I know M thing. M thing. You're talking
2:27:16about
2:27:16>> his older brother.
2:27:18>> I don't know his brother.
2:27:20>> Hey, what's up? What's up call?
2:27:22>> You guys were downstairs.
2:27:34So, a lady earlier,
2:27:37>> a lady,
2:27:37>> I'm not trying to say it was you, but it
2:27:39she looked just like you.
2:27:40>> Yeah, that's what
2:27:41>> she came to my cell and she told me that
2:27:43I'm going to court and that I'm going
2:27:48right after whoever is next in line. And
2:27:50she [ __ ] lied to me, bro.
2:27:52>> You know, can I just explain to you why
2:27:54that happened?
2:27:55>> Why?
2:27:55>> They were assuming that you were the one
2:27:58going to court cuz initially Gabe got
2:28:00brought in for bench warrants. They
2:28:02mixed you up with him.
2:28:04>> He was going to court.
2:28:06>> He's home now, right?
2:28:07>> Probably. I mean, I would assume if it
2:28:09was just bench [ __ ] I don't know the
2:28:11ins and outs of it, but
2:28:13>> that's why she would have said that. So,
2:28:15it's not her bullshitting you. She
2:28:16probably legitimately just [ __ ] it up.
2:28:18>> Okay. All right.
2:28:20>> It wasn't me. I recognize.
2:28:22>> Mhm.
2:28:26>> We're good. You good to go? Okay. Cool.
2:28:28Have you had this done before? Okay.
2:28:30Just open your mouth. All
2:28:39right. What's up?
2:28:41>> [ __ ] Dry my mom out.
2:28:44>> Sorry.
2:28:44>> So, you happy that?
2:28:46>> Yeah.
2:28:46>> So, do I got to be held here overnight?
2:28:48>> You You are. You are. I'm not going to
2:28:50[ __ ] you, bro. Like I said, I don't
2:28:52>> How come I can't go to the ACR? I don't
2:28:53like sleeping.
2:28:54>> It's just
2:28:55They won't take you there at this time.
2:28:57>> Why? Cuz I'm not charged or
2:28:59>> No, it's not even that, bro. That's just
2:29:00that's how it works. Yeah. Um
2:29:04you will go let's say losing track. All
2:29:07right. You'll go to court first thing in
2:29:08the morning.
2:29:09>> Okay. Um
2:29:12>> then from core I'll see where I'm going
2:29:13to go.
2:29:14>> Yes.
2:29:15>> If they hold me I'm going to the ACI. If
2:29:16I do I'm out.
2:29:17>> Correct.
2:29:18>> Good.
2:29:19>> I think to you my man and I want to put
2:29:22this straight out front. Um, at this
2:29:25point I do feel like you've been
2:29:28more honest than what we had to kind of
2:29:30circle around with in the beginning. You
2:29:32know what I mean? I feel like we've made
2:29:34a little more progress at least
2:29:38going forward with everything. I will
2:29:40tell you this. If you continue to decide
2:29:43to be honest on everything
2:29:46and you retain
2:29:50a lawyer
2:29:53and you think you want to come sit down
2:29:54and talk about some things or maybe you
2:29:56remember something that [ __ ] I didn't
2:29:59tell them about this or whatever, we'll
2:30:01be willing to come and talk to you.
2:30:03>> No, I told you everything I know.
2:30:05>> Okay. I just want to you have that
2:30:07option going forward. Okay. Just so you
2:30:09know,
2:30:09>> and there may be an option for more
2:30:11stuff, but you got to figure that out.
2:30:13Okay, I think you you know what I'm
2:30:15getting at. Think about it.
2:30:18>> We're going to bring you down. You can
2:30:20make your goals.
2:30:22Do your thing.
2:30:25So, um, what am I charged with? So,
2:30:27right now, the arrest warrants that that
2:30:29we had were pertaining to the incident
2:30:32on North Main.
2:30:33>> Okay.
2:30:33>> The one with North Alley.
2:30:34>> Okay. So, it's all the the the shots
2:30:38fired charges of that.
2:30:40>> Okay.
2:30:42>> And then the incident with Xavier and
2:30:46Jamie with the car thing and that's for
2:30:48the conspiracy of it. That's why we were
2:30:51saying about just being 100% bro.
2:30:53>> I told you.
2:30:55>> But that's why we asked so much.
2:30:56>> I told you. I told you what happened.
2:30:58>> Which is 100% why we asked that. I'm
2:31:00just explaining to you why we were so
2:31:02like, "Dude, just be straight up now.
2:31:04All right.
2:31:05>> So, it's conspiracy and a shooting.
2:31:07>> It's the conspiracy, the shooting
2:31:08charges, and then
2:31:10>> the drugs.
2:31:12>> Yes, the drugs today. I'm sorry. I
2:31:13forgot about that.
2:31:14>> Yes. So, it's that that's what it is.
2:31:16>> All right.
2:31:19And then uh Yeah, we'll swing you down
2:31:21there. You can make your call.
2:31:24>> Can I make two calls? Square up, bro.
2:31:26Thank you.
2:31:37key.
2:31:37>> Yeah, we do.
2:31:38>> Yep. I'm just saying there.
2:31:49>> Following the interrogation, Isaiah is
2:31:52admitted he was inside the white SUV on
2:31:54March 16th and that he had exchanged
2:31:57messages with his co-fendant, Niftali
2:32:00Sanchez, about the shooting. He also
2:32:02acknowledged associating with members of
2:32:05the Chad Brown gang. Investigators had
2:32:08recovered those messages during an April
2:32:10search of Sanchez's apartment along with
2:32:13firearms, ammunition, nearly 61 g of
2:32:17cocaine, more than 837 g of marijuana,
2:32:21and prescription pills. Police had also
2:32:24found three 40mm caliber shell casings
2:32:28at the shooting scene and documented
2:32:30bullet damage to an innocent driver's
2:32:32car. On February 3rd, 2025, Isaiah
2:32:37pleaded no contest to two counts of
2:32:39assault with a dangerous weapon, one
2:32:41count of discharging a firearm without
2:32:44causing injury, and conspiracy to commit
2:32:46assault with a dangerous weapon. Two
2:32:49weeks later, Superior Court Justice
2:32:51Moren Kio sentenced him to 22 years with
2:32:5512 years to serve at the adult
2:32:57correctional institutions in Cranston,
2:32:59Rhode Island, and 22 years of probation.
2:33:03The court also issued a no contact order
2:33:06protecting the victims.
2:33:08Sanchez, who faced additional charges
2:33:10involving a separate shooting on March
2:33:1212th, received a 30-year sentence on May
2:33:161st, 2025. He was ordered to serve 20
2:33:19years in prison, including 5 years
2:33:22without parole eligibility, and received
2:33:2430 years of probation.
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