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0:00And then you say, "Oh, well, I was not
0:01even I wasn't even going to follow
0:02through with it." But towards the end of
0:04the conversation, she asks you, "Should
0:06I bring a condom?" And you're like, "No,
0:08I'mma get one."
0:10That tells me, Brian, okay, that you
0:13were on board.
0:18>> In late July 2025,
0:21the Marion County Sheriff's Office in
0:23Florida launched a 6-day undercover
0:25operation called [music] Seek and Ye
0:27Shall Find Out.
0:29Working with several other agencies,
0:32investigators were trying to identify
0:34adults [music] who use the internet to
0:36arrange meetings with people they
0:38believed were underage.
0:40Undercover officers [music] posed as
0:42teenagers on messaging platforms and
0:44documented their conversations with
0:46adults.
0:47In some cases, those exchanges led
0:49[music] to plans to meet in person at
0:52locations monitored by deputies.
0:54One of the men identified during the
0:56operation [music]
0:57was 25-year-old Brian Terry.
1:00According to investigators, Brian had
1:02been messaging someone he believed was
1:04an underage [music] girl.
1:06Their conversations eventually led to a
1:08planned meeting in Marion County.
1:10[music]
1:11Brian traveled to the agreed location,
1:14where deputies were waiting to take him
1:15into custody.
1:17>> [music]
1:17>> Investigators now wanted to hear his
1:19account of the messages, what he
1:21understood about the person he was
1:23talking to,
1:23>> [music]
1:24>> and why he came to the location.
1:26This is the interrogation of Brian
1:28Terry.
1:36>> Were you not comfortable?
1:37>> Yes.
1:37>> Did you need something?
1:38>> I was just
1:39>> Just wondering where we were?
1:40>> Yeah.
1:40>> Go ahead and have a seat real quick.
1:42Is that your
1:43bottle?
1:44>> Yeah, that office Do you need more
1:45water?
1:46>> Oh.
1:48Come on.
1:49>> You sure? We'll get you more water.
1:51>> If you want more water, you just let us
1:52know.
1:52>> Can I just address the room quickly?
1:53>> Hold on.
1:55>> I just tried to figure something out
1:56with this company.
1:57>> Yeah, all right.
1:59>> This is just
1:59>> If you're totally innocent,
2:01>> Yeah, mine was the easiest one.
2:02>> man.
2:04All right.
2:06Okay, I know you probably wondering like
2:08what the heck am I doing here.
2:09>> I don't
2:10>> Well, we'll we'll get to that in a
2:12minute.
2:12>> you know?
2:13>> I don't probably know.
2:14>> You think you kind of know?
2:15>> I don't I don't know for sure what I'm
2:17I go
2:17>> You're not sure but you think you kind
2:18of know?
2:19>> Yeah.
2:19>> Okay, let's back.
2:21>> Okay, we'll get that get that in a
2:23minute in a minute. Uh let me just
2:25verify some information from you. Uh
2:27what's your first name?
2:28>> Brian Terry.
2:29>> Spell it out spell Brian.
2:30>> B r i a n
2:33>> Okay, you have middle name Brian?
2:35>> Uh yes, for sure. R r e n s h a r d
2:41>> And Terry you said?
2:43>> Yes, sir. T e r r y
2:44>> Okay, what's your date of birth, Brian?
2:46>> 5 20 2000
2:47>> 5 20?
2:48>> Yes, sir.
2:49>> 2000
2:50>> So, how old are you?
2:51>> 20 years old
2:53Um
2:55>> Uh what's your phone number, Brian?
3:00>> I don't even know my phone number.
3:03>> You don't know your phone number by
3:04heart?
3:04>> Well, I do but it's they was a iPhone
3:06and it's black screen. I can't really do
3:08nothing with it.
3:09>> Okay, what's your number?
3:10>> Let me just uh
3:19>> What's your address?
3:21>> Um
3:30Uh Oak California 34475
3:35>> Are you living down the road from here?
3:38Right?
3:40>> Well, for now I don't
3:42I'm not trying to stay with my mom.
3:44>> Uh you're you live with your mom's
3:45house?
3:46>> I was staying with my mom.
3:49You know what
3:50Mom being a little overbearing.
3:53I miss my son like I miss my son too.
3:56>> What do you mean?
3:58>> It was just
4:00You know like people's energy just
4:02change and it's like different.
4:04>> Mhm.
4:05>> It's like that with my sister. Well, she
4:06called the police on my sister one time
4:09trying to get her in jail. So, my sister
4:11moved out.
4:12But,
4:13I had a aunt that was staying with us.
4:16She got it and she ended up moving in
4:18with her. She just moved out. My
4:20brother, he's
4:22he's supposed to be moving out soon, you
4:23know.
4:24I've already told my mom that I already
4:26don't want to stay there. This is
4:29I honestly have to be talking to her for
4:30the last days.
4:32>> How old is your brother?
4:37>> I'm not really sure.
4:39I don't know.
4:40>> Why is your sister older than your
4:41brother?
4:41>> Yeah.
4:42>> I mean, do you have any
4:43any more siblings?
4:44>> Yeah, just my sister and brother.
4:45>> How old is your baby? You're the
4:46youngest one?
4:47>> Yes, sir.
4:48>> All right. Your sister's the oldest one
4:49or in the middle?
4:50>> I don't know. She's like
4:53I don't know how old she is.
4:56Older?
4:56Um
4:58I know she's older than my brother. I'm
4:59not sure.
5:00>> What's your age?
5:01>> I'm 18.
5:02>> Y'all grew up here in Ocala?
5:07>> Mhm.
5:08I don't
5:09think so. We didn't really grow up
5:10together. I was raised by my
5:11grandmother.
5:12>> Okay. Here in Ocala or somewhere else?
5:13>> Oh.
5:15Basically Ocala. We stayed in Spar, but
5:17>> Okay.
5:18>> everything was in Ocala. So, we was
5:19pretty much in town all the time.
5:21>> Yeah.
5:22You said you were raised by your
5:23grandma?
5:23>> Yes, sir.
5:24>> Grandma is still living in Spar?
5:26>> Yes, sir.
5:26>> Yeah.
5:27Is
5:28uh growing up there and moving in with
5:30grandma an option or no?
5:32>> No. I I actually moved Well, she had me
5:35um
5:37I guess place or whatever
5:40>> With my mom?
5:41>> my uncle. Like, at the time he stayed in
5:43the shorts.
5:44>> Okay.
5:44>> But, he would He has uh two sons that
5:47stayed down the road like uh
5:50I think about three houses down from my
5:52grandma. So, when he would come and pick
5:54them up, he would just
5:56come and pick me up, too.
5:57>> Is this when you were a child?
5:58>> Yeah, I was a little
6:02>> That conclusion. Why you can't go live
6:03with grandma anymore?
6:05>> No, she she she we
6:07I was her shadow. Like how you have a
6:08shadow? That was literally me. I guess
6:11her shadow, so
6:14it got to the point where just like her
6:16and her
6:17her husband was just my granddad.
6:19They started arguing
6:21and I seen that, so
6:23that's why I had no problem with going
6:24to live with my mom cuz
6:26I love my grand.
6:28I don't want you to know nothing bad
6:29happen to her, bro. Just trust me.
6:32>> They arguing over you?
6:37Seems like you care a lot about grandma.
6:40>> She just raised me. That's
6:42>> She She didn't raise you like this?
6:48>> I was literally trying to go home.
6:51I didn't want to come back out. I was
6:52just trying to go home.
6:55>> Okay.
6:56>> Everything you said it all
7:02I didn't say I was just going to go home
7:04or stay home, but that wasn't my plan at
7:05all.
7:06>> Okay, well hang on a second. Before we
7:07get into all that, let me
7:08>> Let me Let me do this, okay? Before cuz
7:10I I do want to hear what you have to
7:13say,
7:14Brian, and I I do want to
7:16uh let you know what what we have going
7:18on, okay? But before I do that because I
7:21am going to be asking some specific
7:22questions. All right, and because you
7:25are here, you're not free to go right
7:27now. I'm going to read you your rights
7:29just so that you know and are aware of
7:30them, okay?
7:31>> Yes, that's all right.
7:32>> Um you have the right to remain silent.
7:33Anything you say can be used against you
7:36in a court of law. You have the right to
7:38talk to a lawyer and have a person with
7:39you while you're being questioned. If
7:41you cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one
7:43will be appointed to represent you
7:44before any questioning if you wish. You
7:46can decide at any time you execute these
7:48rights and not answer any questions or
7:50make any statements.
7:52Do you understand each of these rights
7:53I've explained to you?
7:55>> Yes.
7:55>> Okay. Having these rights in mind, do
7:57you want to talk to us?
7:58>> Please.
7:59>> Okay.
8:00All right, Brian.
8:02I want I want you
8:04get it out of your chest, man.
8:06Um
8:07I know Graham Grandma
8:11raised raised a good guy.
8:13And I know we all make mistakes.
8:16And the best way to overcome mistakes
8:18and move forward from them is just to
8:21put them out there.
8:22Okay?
8:24Just to
8:26say what we've done
8:28and move on.
8:29>> Okay, so
8:30>> Okay, so wherever you want to begin,
8:32Brian.
8:36>> Well, we'll begin with this one. Can we
8:38go home?
8:39Just talk to the workers here.
8:41I'm just getting tired.
8:43I got to go to work again tomorrow. I
8:45have to ride my bike 30 [ __ ] minutes
8:47to save me [ __ ] money.
8:49I'm tired.
8:51I have to work in the [ __ ] sun for
8:52like 8 to 9 hours just to be able to
8:54ride back home and do it all over again
8:56the next day.
8:58Talk to the Lord.
9:03I'm sorry.
9:04>> No, you're good, man. You're good.
9:06Listen.
9:09We were made aware of a
9:12of a conversation with a with a young
9:14lady.
9:16And that's honestly what we want to talk
9:17to you about.
9:18>> I'm sorry.
9:19>> Okay, what can you tell me about that?
9:21>> What do you want to know?
9:23I'm on MeetMe.
9:24>> Everything. Start from the beginning.
9:25How did it start? Where did you Where
9:26did the conversation start?
9:28>> So,
9:29they MeetMe.
9:31>> Okay, what's MeetMe?
9:33>> Uh
9:36Um I mean, it pulls up as a dating app,
9:38but it's like it's through live dates. I
9:41don't
9:42I don't know too much. All I know is
9:45I just first like cheap [ __ ] women.
9:48>> And educate me a little bit. Is it like
9:50a hookup app? Or is like Is it like a
9:52Tinder?
9:53I'm familiar with what Tinder is, but
9:55I'm not familiar with
9:56with the MeetMe.
9:57>> Honestly, I can't honestly say.
9:59>> But you said it's a dating app. You go
10:00on there and meet people.
10:02>> Yeah, I just know it If you go on the
10:03app store and look up dating apps, it
10:05comes up on the app.
10:06>> Okay.
10:07>> But it also comes up under all the other
10:09like, you know, hookup apps, too. So,
10:11I'm not sure exactly please just let it
10:12generic.
10:13>> What's the difference between a dating
10:14app and a hookup app?
10:16>> I couldn't tell you to save my life,
10:17honestly.
10:18>> Okay.
10:20So, you get on MeetMe.
10:22>> Yeah, I was
10:24Honestly, it was it wasn't like I was a
10:26little
10:30I wasn't
10:31trying to actually read the book. I just
10:33wanted to get out the house.
10:35Honestly, at the end I said, "We don't
10:37have to do anything.
10:40We just sit and [ __ ] stare at each
10:42other." And yeah, that is
10:44I'm cool with being a [ __ ] house all
10:46day, man. And I just wanted to get out.
10:49>> Yeah, we we understand that.
10:50So,
10:52tell me about this about this girl,
10:53Ryan.
10:54What do you know about her?
11:00>> I know that I
11:02originally thought that I was
11:04talking to a uh
11:07like a
11:0838-year-old
11:10woman or something like that.
11:11>> Mhm.
11:14>> At best.
11:16Clearly not what it was.
11:18>> What do you mean?
11:20>> Cuz when we conversation, we started
11:21talking and then I was like, "Oh, I'm
11:23you know, I was like,
11:27"Are you [ __ ] serious?"
11:29>> Mhm.
11:29>> Like,
11:31"You're cheating. Like, why are you even
11:33on the dating app?"
11:34>> Yeah.
11:36>> So, everything I just saw it all fall
11:38apart. I was just trying to get to the
11:39dog house.
11:42It It just didn't make sense.
11:44>> Okay. So, what happened after that after
11:46she told you that she was you asked her
11:49why she was on a dating app?
11:52>> I mean, we conversated.
11:54And she kept trying to say, "What do you
11:56want to do? What do you want to do with
11:57me?" I just
12:03I wasn't comfortable with doing
12:05anything. I just wanted to get out the
12:07house.
12:08I didn't want to be snuck in nobody's
12:10house. I didn't want to do none of that.
12:12I just wanted to get out.
12:14That's it.
12:17Did she offer to sneak you into her
12:18house?
12:20>> No.
12:22>> For what purpose?
12:25>> I mean, my purpose was what I said it
12:28was watching a movie.
12:29>> Mhm.
12:31>> You know what I'm saying?
12:32>> Yeah, just chilling.
12:33>> It wasn't no type of or anything. I
12:35wasn't no
12:36you know, wanting to do anything
12:39you know, like sexual or anything like
12:41that. It was just simple. I just wanted
12:43to get out the house. You know, just
12:45have a reason to be out.
12:46>> Yeah.
12:47>> Even if for 4 hours and
12:50My room is all the way back.
12:51>> Yeah.
12:52>> My room is like
12:56probably from about where your foot is
12:59back.
12:59And my bed it fills up most of it.
13:02>> Was there any mention of anything sexual
13:05in doing that conversation between you
13:07and her?
13:08>> I mean, I did at the end cuz I was like
13:11>> Mhm.
13:13>> I mean, I'm not stupid. It is. So I was
13:15like, you trying to say something.
13:17But you don't want to say it. That's
13:19what I said.
13:20>> What did you say exactly?
13:21>> I said, "Did you want to [ __ ] or
13:22something?"
13:24Cuz I was like
13:26"I'm cool with just you I'm cool with
13:29just watching a [ __ ] movie."
13:31>> Mhm.
13:32>> And she was getting into that.
13:36That's it.
13:38I didn't see it as like a
13:41like something like a you know, like a
13:43ongoing friendship type thing. Cuz I was
13:46already
13:47not comfortable in this situation if you
13:49get what I mean.
13:50>> Mhm.
13:52Now, besides the
13:55you going and and wanting to do the
13:57movie and um
14:00possibly have
14:02uh
14:03sex then was there any mention of
14:05anything else that were y'all planning
14:08on doing?
14:10>> No, I said the small
14:11>> Okay.
14:14>> I wasn't comfortable with that cuz I
14:17slept with somebody and they started
14:18tripping.
14:19Yeah, that got weird. So, I was like
14:22you know, I don't want you to trip and
14:24you know, your parents come or they
14:26bother and they're like, "Oh, what the
14:27fuck?"
14:28Excuse my language.
14:29>> No, no, you're good, man.
14:30>> Yeah, you know, and I
14:32I mean, I don't have any weed right now.
14:34Still, it's just, you know, I still
14:36wouldn't have fully comfortable with the
14:38situation.
14:39>> And that's And that's not our concern
14:41right now, whether you have weed or not.
14:42That's doesn't not what we're concerned
14:44for. Okay? That's
14:46Don't worry about that. All right.
14:48Um so,
14:50you met this I'm just trying to recap
14:52again just how far
14:53how far we've discussed this this far.
14:56You met this girl on MeetMe, you said.
14:58Uh on there, you said you thought she
15:00was 38. Do you remember that?
15:02>> I wanted to try to look at the profile
15:05and it wouldn't load. So, I
15:07>> What was the name on the profile?
15:12>> I mean, she told me her name was So, I
15:14always thought that was her name.
15:16You know, I didn't know her real
15:18You know what I'm saying? But
15:19>> How about yours? What's your name on on
15:21your profile on there?
15:27>> I don't
15:28think Jay.
15:32I think that's my name. I don't use my
15:35I don't like my government name. So, I
15:37don't use
15:37>> No, no, no, that's fine. So, what do you
15:39use on there?
15:41>> I just use the name Jay.
15:42>> Jay?
15:43>> Yeah.
15:43>> That's your name on your profile for the
15:45MeetMe?
15:46>> I think so.
15:48I mean, that's that's the name I put for
15:49pretty much
15:52any type of social media or anything.
15:54You know, like I have a content page for
15:57my gaming that I do on my phone and my
15:59name is SRT Rango.
16:01And I don't I don't
16:02I don't like my name. People use
16:04>> What's Rango?
16:05>> Oh, I used to have a I had I owned a 03
16:09Well, two 03 Rangos. So,
16:11>> Oh, okay.
16:12>> That's kind of where it stemmed from and
16:13I wanted to do a project on engines on
16:16it. So, it kind of just stuck to me.
16:19>> Got it.
16:22>> Okay, so you met her
16:24um on the MeetMe. You started a
16:26conversation with her. Um
16:29did it the whole conversation stay
16:31through the MeetMe or did it change to
16:33something else?
16:35>> It did change to uh to something else.
16:38>> What is that?
16:39>> It was with phone number.
16:41>> Okay.
16:42>> You know.
16:43I was I mean I
16:45I didn't that part I didn't really see
16:47like, you know.
16:48>> Mhm.
16:49>> Because I you know what I'm saying? I've
16:51been in relationships with people and
16:52you know you when you meet somebody you
16:54don't want to keep texting on that. I
16:55was texting on the MeetMe,
16:57you know? So, I didn't really
16:59you know what I'm saying? I didn't think
17:00nothing of that. I was just like, okay,
17:02cool. That's
17:04>> It does become a little overwhelming and
17:06keep conversations through app. It's
17:07probably better through app.
17:09>> Through app. Through uh phone.
17:12>> Um so, you the conversation continued
17:14over phone. Um
17:18how far into the conversation did she
17:22uh tell you that she wasn't really
17:25uh 38?
17:26Where you where where you found out her
17:28real age?
17:29>> Um
17:32you know, what time is it right now?
17:35>> It's almost 3:05.
17:39>> I mean, how long were you guys talking
17:40before you realized that
17:42you know
17:43>> That's what I'm trying to tell you guys.
17:45I don't when we started
17:45>> guys having a long conversation? Was it
17:47a short? I mean, how
17:49>> I mean
17:54I wouldn't say it was long. I mean
17:57>> At At what point did you realize that
17:59you were talking to a younger girl?
18:01>> Well, when she told me.
18:02>> Okay, but is it and let's think of the
18:04whole conversation as a beginning,
18:06middle, and end. Do you think it was it
18:08towards the beginning? Was it towards
18:09the middle? Or was it towards the end?
18:13>> Um
18:15I would say it was in the middle.
18:17It was like a beginning maybe.
18:19>> Okay.
18:20>> And then I I think we kind of like kind
18:22of got a little conversation here.
18:24>> Mhm.
18:25>> But then it was like just
18:29you know, it's here you go.
18:30>> Yep.
18:32>> I mean
18:33I did ask her. I was like, "Really? You
18:35can't be serious."
18:37You know.
18:40I just wanted to know what's the matter
18:41though. That's why I kept asking
18:43questions. I was like, "What?"
18:46Or why are you on a dating app before
18:48Cuz we focused on school.
18:50You know what I'm saying? Truth.
18:52I just
18:53I mean at my age when I was You know, I
18:56was
18:58I was a bad kid.
19:00But
19:01I still was focused on school. You know
19:03what I'm saying? Nobody was on my mind
19:05at the time.
19:07>> I think we were all bad kids at some
19:09point.
19:10>> No, I was a real bad kid.
19:13>> And so
19:14the conversation kept going and you said
19:17that you wanted to
19:19just hang out with with her
19:21um knowing at this point that she was
19:25And I
19:25>> I didn't want to I didn't want to I mean
19:28And the way it is it I mean it is it is
19:31wrong just to you know to feel with
19:34But that's you know what I'm saying?
19:35That's why I
19:37I wasn't trying to find like when I said
19:39I want to watch movie I wasn't looking
19:41to try to watch nothing that was like
19:46like able to bring us together. You know
19:49what I'm saying? You know what I'm
19:49saying? You know what I'm saying?
19:50You know what I mean?
19:51>> Like I think so.
19:52>> Like like touching wise. You know what
19:54I'm saying? Nothing You know what I'm
19:56saying? Like I didn't want to try to get
19:58cuz
19:59my baby mama she was talking to me about
20:01watching crap this thing.
20:03I just was like, "Okay, what you going
20:05to do for the [ __ ] watch that?" Cuz I
20:07don't have Netflix on my TV. You know
20:08what I'm saying?
20:09>> Oh, okay. I was just like, "Okay, we'll
20:10just watch that."
20:12>> I mean I didn't really see a preview of
20:14it but it's crap this I feel like you
20:16know.
20:18>> I'm not sure what the movie's about.
20:19I've heard of it but I'm not entirely
20:21sure.
20:21>> Yeah, I I don't know again.
20:23But I just know like you know my
20:25my baby mama told me about it and I was
20:27like okay, how much?
20:28>> Okay.
20:30Now, Brian, our our concern obviously
20:32what we
20:33we've told you and we want to be
20:34completely honest with you is is the the
20:37comments of
20:38are do you want to
20:40[ __ ] her or
20:42whatever else you you say.
20:43>> Yeah, that that that wasn't me like
20:48cuz after I sent it I was like damn that
20:50looks like I was trying to mention it
20:52something.
20:53But it wasn't it was more cuz I should
20:55have put a question at the end but it
20:57was more of a question like
20:59cuz
21:01I mean if you tell a somebody we don't
21:04have to do nothing.
21:05>> Sure.
21:05>> You know
21:06we can just sit
21:08and just chill. You know what I'm
21:10saying? And
21:11let it be that. You understand or not?
21:13You know what I mean? And it was the key
21:15questioning of
21:17what do you want to do? What do you want
21:18to do? What do you want to do?
21:20I was like
21:22in my mind I was like there's no way
21:23this
21:25is trying to
21:26>> Yeah.
21:27>> You know what I'm saying? Doing this
21:28type of stuff. That's why I never
21:29mentioned it. I was like
21:31maybe she is but I'm not going to
21:33mention it because I'm not trying to do
21:34that.
21:35>> Yeah.
21:35>> You know what I mean?
21:37>> Well, and and here's the other thing
21:39like I mentioned earlier we
21:41were made aware of the conversation you
21:43were having with her and obviously we
21:46were given that a copy of that
21:48conversation. So we were able to see the
21:50chats.
21:50>> used her okay.
21:52>> There is some comments there towards the
21:54end
21:55um about
21:57Connie's
21:58>> Yeah.
21:59>> Right.
22:00>> Okay.
22:01What can you tell me about that?
22:03>> She was
22:03saying do you do you want to get a
22:05Connie or do I want to get a Connie?
22:07No, do you?
22:10It was something but it was do you want
22:12to get a Connie or do I want to get a
22:13Connie or something. I can't remember
22:15exactly how it went but it was something
22:16like that.
22:18And
22:19I really didn't want to answer cuz I
22:21didn't want to
22:22didn't want to do nothing.
22:24And I I was trying to avoid
22:26I mean, I
22:27answered it in a way
22:29I just said, "Okay, cool."
22:32And
22:34So, then all of when I when I left, I
22:36was just trying to go back home. I was
22:37just trying to leave that conversation
22:40there.
22:41Cuz I was like
22:44No, you know what I mean? Like
22:47>> So,
22:48Brian,
22:51I'm I'm listening to you, right? And you
22:53know, like you said, we read the
22:54conversation and stuff. And I'm
22:56listening to you, and you know, I really
22:59feel like you you like earlier, you
23:02know, we could really get a sense of,
23:03you know, like you were raised, you
23:06know, back in that right. That's That's
23:08kind of like the first thing that you
23:09made us feel, right? And I can honestly
23:11say from the conversations that I read,
23:13like, you know, you you kind of like a
23:16gentleman.
23:17You know what I'm saying? You know what
23:18I'm saying? Like you're so you were so
23:20polite and so, you know, um
23:23kind of like very attentive to, you
23:26know, and I'm just talking like a like a
23:28chick, you know what I'm saying? To her
23:29needs and her wants in the conversation.
23:31I really get a sense of, you know, that
23:33you really are trying to be like a, you
23:35know, to to please her and and take care
23:37of her. You're calling her queen and all
23:38that, right?
23:39>> Yeah, but that's that's kind of
23:41something I used to do.
23:42>> Yeah, it's just it's who you are.
23:44Cuz you're cuz you're a nice guy, right?
23:46You're a nice guy.
23:47So, um so, you know, I I really feel
23:51like you're trying to, you know, just be
23:53as honest and genuine as you possibly
23:55can, but I feel like
23:56I feel like we can be a little more
23:58real, if if you get me, right? We could
23:59be a little bit more real, right? Like,
24:01if you're going to if you're going to be
24:02honest, just be 100% honest. Just be
24:04You know, like don't be like a little
24:06bit, you know, just be honest.
24:08You know, you know why you're here?
24:09You knew why you were here, cuz you you
24:11broke down in tears, right? Cuz deep
24:14down in your heart, you you already
24:15knew, man, I messed up.
24:18So, we're not going to downplay, right?
24:20The mess up.
24:21By saying things like I wasn't going to
24:23do it, or I didn't really want to do it,
24:25or I wasn't
24:26At the end of the day,
24:28you know you messed up, okay? And you
24:31went on the meet me, right?
24:33When you When you go on this meet me,
24:35were you already
24:36out of the house or were you at the
24:37house when you went on the meet me?
24:39And you started talking
24:41>> Like I
24:42started talking.
24:43>> Yeah, were you already You was home.
24:45Okay. At what point do you go to
24:48the gas station?
24:51>> Before I even texted and said that I was
24:53leaving.
24:54>> Okay. But at that point you guys had
24:56already kind of like talked about it and
24:58maybe canceled it like that.
24:59>> mean what
25:01I think you just said it was plans to me
25:03in my head it didn't seem It seemed like
25:05it was just something that was
25:08um not getting dragged on, but um
25:16I'm sorry.
25:17>> It's okay. Take your time. You're all
25:18right.
25:23Take your time. Breathe.
25:25Just be honest. What What did you What
25:26did it seem like?
25:30Mhm?
25:39>> I knew pretty good.
25:40>> You went You went to the gas station,
25:41right? And you had plans on meeting over
25:43Abby, right?
25:45Cuz at At some point, Ryan, like at some
25:48point, right? In the conversation,
25:51pretty early on when you guys started
25:53texting each other, right?
25:54calls you on
25:55Who was that?
25:57Right? And even though you're like
25:59You're right. You're not lying to us. I
26:00know you're being honest. You're telling
26:01us I was like Are you like Are you
26:03serious?
26:05But you still kept talking.
26:07Even after she told you she was She was
26:09not true.
26:09>> Yes, ma'am.
26:10>> You kept talking.
26:11Right? So, even though deep down you You
26:13sit here in front of us and you're like,
26:15"I didn't want any of that." It didn't
26:17stop you from moving forward.
26:20>> the conversation
26:22that we was talking about before
26:24>> Mhm. At first it was just like friendly.
26:26>> Yeah, that's what I don't understand. I
26:28didn't see it as
26:29weird.
26:30>> It It weird, right? What what makes it
26:33weird? What what about the conversation?
26:35The age difference. That's That's the
26:37point I'm trying to make. That's what
26:38I'm trying to, you know, get you to be
26:40honest about with me because you knew me
26:42it was weird, but you didn't stop
26:44talking
26:45Right?
26:46You didn't stop talking to
26:48That didn't That didn't stop you from
26:50leaving the house, man. That didn't stop
26:51you from leaving the house and going to
26:53the gas
26:55Okay.
27:01Okay.
27:03Yeah.
27:05And then you said that, you know, um
27:08that was like saying stuff that made you
27:10feel like she was trying to say
27:11something but he didn't really you want
27:13to say it, right?
27:16So, you just said it for her.
27:18And And you didn't you didn't put the
27:20question marks on there, but you said
27:21but you said what you said.
27:23Okay. And what was it that you said? I
27:26said, "Do you Do you want to [ __ ] or
27:27something?"
27:33It was more It was more with with Or get
27:35ate or something like that, right?
27:39And at this point, when you made this
27:41comment or you asked this question,
27:43whether it was a comment or a question,
27:44right? At this point
27:46you know, right? Fingers walking toward
27:49True or untrue?
27:51Right?
27:56Yeah. Yeah, you were
28:03>> [clears throat]
28:04>> But, we're not talking about you. We're
28:06not talking about you, right? We're
28:07talking being you.
28:09is having these kind She's entertaining
28:12this with you, right? And you're
28:14entertaining this with her.
28:16Right? And here's the difference between
28:18you and
28:19Right? You're an adult. Yes, you know
28:21better, bro. You know how I know you
28:23know better? Because before we even said
28:26a word, you were already like, "Man."
28:29Broke down.
28:32Right? Cuz you Cuz you cuz you know you
28:35messed up.
28:37>> Yes, I did.
28:39>> And then you say, "Oh well, I was not
28:41even I wasn't even going to follow
28:42through with it." But towards the end of
28:44the conversation, she asks you, "Should
28:46I bring a condom?" And you're like, "No,
28:48I'mma get one."
28:49That tells me, Brian, okay, that you
28:52were on board.
28:54>> We we have the conversation, Brian. And
28:57if I'm wrong, maybe correct me if I'm
28:58wrong.
28:59>> And listen, Dana, I can read you exactly
29:00what you said. All right? Like I said, I
29:02we got confidence.
29:03>> I'm not saying I'm not I'm not trying to
29:05seem like I'm lying to you.
29:06>> not it. Because if I'm saying if I don't
29:08want to put words in your mouth either.
29:09But like if I if I'm if I got it messed
29:11up, I can't remember I had the whole
29:12conversation, then I I'll I'll take, you
29:15know, ownership for that. But I'm pretty
29:16sure that that's what I read. She She
29:18volunteered to get condoms and you said
29:20basically, I'll take care of it.
29:22>> Well, no, no, no, Dana. You want me to
29:24read it to you? I I know exactly what I
29:26I'll read it to you, Brian. You okay
29:28I'll read it to you. It says this.
29:30Um it then this is her. Are you bringing
29:33a condom or you need me to bring one?
29:34Question mark. And then you text it, I
29:37have to get one.
29:38And then she text you back, can you get
29:40one cuz I don't want to get preggo?
29:42And then you replied, I got you, queen,
29:44but I still need the addy. I mean, I'm
29:46assuming the addy means the the address.
29:49Okay.
29:50So
29:51what we're telling you though we have
29:53the text messages we have the the
29:55>> leave conversations, too.
29:57>> Okay.
29:58>> How do you leave a conversation?
29:59>> What do you mean?
30:00>> You you leave the conversation by saying
30:02I'm not getting a condom?
30:03>> No, no. That's not it.
30:06Too straight.
30:07>> Okay.
30:09>> No, that's not that's not what I
30:11What I mean is What I mean is, okay, if
30:13I'm talking to somebody, say like
30:15hypothetically, me and you are talking.
30:17Okay. If I wasn't feeling you, you know
30:21what I'm saying? I'm going to Yeah, I'm
30:22going to tell you. Yeah.
30:24We can't do this, do that, do do
30:28But then when you just get ghosted,
30:30that's my thing. I ghost people.
30:31>> Okay.
30:32>> If I don't want to keep it entertaining
30:34it and it's
30:36which at that point it went too far as
30:37far as just like
30:39I said yeah, I said I got you. I said
30:42I'm going to get it.
30:42>> But that's not what the that's not what
30:44the messages are are indicating, Brian.
30:47>> But also
30:47>> So do you understand why it would be
30:48Would you Would if you were in my
30:50position, would you would you believe
30:52that? If you were in my shoes, would you
30:54believe that?
30:54>> I mean, you got a point. Yes. Okay. I'm
30:57not trying to fight against you.
30:58>> No, and I don't want to I don't want you
31:00to feel like it's I really want to just
31:02hear and understand you.
31:03>> I mean, cuz y'all have the list.
31:05What I'm saying is okay.
31:08Think about it like this.
31:10If I'm getting a condom and I already
31:12said my 7-Eleven gas station is so
31:14close.
31:15So if I was going back home, why didn't
31:17I just get it right there? I was sitting
31:19there for like 40 minutes.
31:21I could have just got it.
31:23But I didn't. That's why I said I wasn't
31:26trying to follow through.
31:28I could have got it right there.
31:29>> you also asked her like, "What are we
31:31going to do cuz I've been sitting here
31:32for 40 minutes." So maybe you didn't get
31:35the condoms because you didn't know what
31:37was going to happen. You were waiting on
31:38her to respond.
31:39>> I didn't get it because I didn't want to
31:42follow through.
31:43>> Right. I I know you're saying that.
31:45Okay, but your actions are showing
31:47something completely different. Okay,
31:48because you went out of your you left
31:51your house going out of your way to go
31:53meet uh meet this
31:54girl. Okay, so don't say
31:57that you you were going to ghost her.
31:59You had every intention to meet her.
32:02>> Sir, there's two 7-Elevens.
32:05It's one, right?
32:06Where were you?
32:08You have it that way. Right?
32:10>> Yep.
32:10>> I went here. Yes, I went in the general
32:13area.
32:13>> Okay.
32:14>> But at the same time, you will see as
32:16soon as I If you go to that camera, you
32:18will see who going to ask the dreadhead
32:19dude there. As soon as I went there, I
32:22went late. I didn't I didn't
32:25drop my bike and went in and literally
32:27went straight to the front counter.
32:29I could have got a condom in the
32:307-Eleven.
32:31If
32:32I If I If I had actual bad intentions
32:35or I'm doing something, I could have got
32:36a condom there. I went, got me a black,
32:39and I left.
32:41And when I left, I actually left the
32:43phone that I was texting on.
32:45And that's what I remember. They had to
32:46do Person number behind me had to tell
32:49me.
32:50And I was like, "Oh, oh [ __ ] Okay."
32:53>> Is that the phone you were texting her
32:55with?
32:55>> Yes, sir.
32:56>> What was it It was left on the counter.
32:57>> What phone But you went back and got it.
32:58They gave it to you.
32:59>> Yeah. Well, yeah, it's cuz my phone
33:02right now is a black screen. I can't
33:06>> What color phone was it? Yeah, what what
33:07is the phone they gave you?
33:08>> It's like blue. Blue.
33:10>> Yeah.
33:10>> What brand?
33:10>> It was
33:11Frontline Wireless. I'm not sure what.
33:13>> Is it like a Wi-Fi only phone or
33:15something?
33:16>> Yeah. It I mean
33:17>> Cuz you said your phone with the phone
33:19number is a black screen. So, you can't
33:21text on that phone.
33:21>> That's the phone number I gave y'all.
33:23>> Okay. But then the phone that you're
33:24actually messaging Abby on is a
33:26different phone. It's a blue phone.
33:28>> It has a TextNow number.
33:29>> With a TextNow number? Okay. And you
33:31said that
33:33Does that have a line or
33:35Is it Wi-Fi only? So, you have a TextNow
33:37number? Is that what you're doing? Okay.
33:39Got it. Well, you did you had that phone
33:41when
33:42deputies made contact with you?
33:44>> Uh they said it was on the ground. I
33:46never seen nobody pick it up. I assumed
33:48that they picked it up.
33:49>> And y'all have a I think Yeah, I think
33:51we picked it up, Brian. It's
33:54It's It's a blue one, you said, right?
33:55>> Yes, sir. I sure saw a blue phone that
33:57they had. Um
34:00So, is that a Wi-Fi phone? Does it have
34:02a phone number assigned to it?
34:03>> That's what I was trying to tell you. I
34:05went in the settings, and it shows
34:07there's a phone number. And I tried I
34:09tried to call out
34:11earlier today. I tried to call them on
34:14No, I tried to call my phone.
34:16But it didn't work.
34:17>> Where did you get that phone?
34:18>> It's an old phone that I've had it for
34:20like
34:20>> It's It's your old phone or a house
34:22phone? Like some somewhere in the house?
34:24>> No, my old phone.
34:25>> It's your old phone.
34:25>> Yeah.
34:26>> So, at some point it was on the
34:27>> you know, it was It was my best friend,
34:28but she gave it to me.
34:29>> Okay.
34:30>> Cuz I was going through it. So, I needed
34:33a phone, and she gave it to me just in
34:34case.
34:34>> probably disconnected, and you're using
34:36Wi-Fi. You have to hook up to the Wi-Fi,
34:37and you're using a TextNow number, and
34:38that's how you're messaging.
34:39>> Yeah.
34:40>> Okay. Got
34:40>> Makes sense.
34:41And long have you had that phone for?
34:49>> Um
34:51a year and a half.
34:53Maybe two.
34:54Okay.
34:57The reason I use this guy is like I said
34:59in my
34:59Facebook is full of content.
35:02>> Yeah.
35:02>> The
35:03last video the account that I use for
35:05the game
35:07is a is a Do you y'all know what a beta
35:09is?
35:11>> No, not really.
35:11>> No, it's going to take me a little bit.
35:12Don't take me a little bit ignorant. I
35:13want closer to the Like a beta
35:16is like a
35:17Like how you got beta Facebook and stuff
35:19like that. Beta is basically
35:23Okay, say you put out a game, right?
35:25>> Mhm.
35:25>> All right. And me and her were playing.
35:28>> Okay.
35:28>> But I'm a beta tester and she's just a
35:30regular
35:31person.
35:32I would get it first. I'd be the person
35:35to test it out, make sure it works for
35:37everything, you know, works for her.
35:39The world whoever wants to play it. And
35:42then eventually when everything is
35:44optimized
35:46you know, done
35:47then boom, it's going to be set out so
35:50she can get it, and you can get it. You
35:52know what I'm saying?
35:53>> Sure.
35:53>> That's that's what a beta is.
35:55>> Okay.
35:55>> My account is a beta
35:57for Android.
35:59Um that's
36:01>> So you test like Android stuff?
36:03>> Well, no, it's just that one game. That
36:05that that one game if you go on my
36:07Facebook, you will literally see I have
36:10no pictures or anything. I mean, there's
36:12other pictures of other people on it,
36:14but like
36:15when I first had it, but
36:17I literally dedicated that whole It was
36:19a personal Facebook. I dedicated it all
36:21just to that game.
36:22>> And you're still You're still talking
36:23about the blue phone.
36:24>> Yes.
36:25>> Okay.
36:25>> It was That's why I got it cuz it's it's
36:28my account is for Android beta.
36:30>> Okay.
36:30>> Okay, but I've been using an iPhone so I
36:32can't
36:33get this stuff. And I found out that I
36:36can't. The phone's out of date so it
36:39doesn't even have my games on it.
36:40>> Okay.
36:42>> All right. Well, here's
36:43Here's something I'd like to do Brian.
36:46I want to give you the opportunity
36:49to
36:50write down if you want to apologize lady
36:53letter I'm sorry please for this girl
36:56for her parents.
36:57Okay,
36:58so I don't want to force you to do it.
37:00If you want to do that right now we can
37:02do it.
37:03>> Okay.
37:04I mean if this helps me out man I got
37:06>> Do you want more water?
37:08Do you need another water?
37:10>> Um
37:10please.
37:11>> Yeah, all right. We'll lead you to that.
37:13I'll get you some water and we'll be
37:15right back, okay?
37:16>> Oh, here let me see that water bottle
37:17we're waiting for you.
37:19Oh,
37:20I don't know um
37:22I mean
37:24I don't know what to do
37:25and and I'm not a good
37:28>> That's all right, man. You can have your
37:29thoughts.
37:36>> Am I
37:37going to be like a predator predator
37:40predator?
37:43>> That That's That's too far in advance to
37:45even say, okay? Let's Let's cross this
37:48bridge right now and then we'll we can
37:51figure that out at a
37:53at a later date, okay? I I don't like to
37:55I don't like to to speculate at future
37:58things cuz
38:00I can't see the future. If I could see
38:01the future believe me I'd be playing the
38:03lottery every day. You know, so
38:05Um
38:06but we'll we'll we'll talk about that.
38:07We'll discuss that later.
38:08>> Thank you Brian.
38:09>> Thank you so much.
38:10>> Of course.
38:16>> Oh, excuse me.
38:36>> Almost done, right?
38:37Still working on it?
38:39>> Do you want me to write this too?
38:41>> No, no, no, that's fine. Whatever you
38:43doesn't matter to me.
38:44>> Did you write it down?
38:45>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, there is writing.
38:46good.
38:47Yeah, man.
38:49You're right.
38:51>> It feels
38:51>> Man, it feels a lot nicer in here than
38:53it does out there.
38:55I like those shoes.
38:57You just like the conference this?
38:58>> Mhm.
38:59>> I like the color.
39:02What's nice about this like to me?
39:03>> They're both they're all the same.
39:05>> No, they're not.
39:11You want me to sign that?
39:12>> Yeah, sign and date it.
39:16>> So the date So today is the 23rd.
39:19>> You can put the date next to your
39:20signature. There's no rules.
39:21>> I haven't done date of birth since
39:23>> It's okay. There's no rules, man. Just
39:25wherever you want.
39:40>> All right, Brian. I want to go I'm going
39:42to ask what we talked about last week.
39:44Um
39:45So the phone was a blue Motorola that we
39:48talked about last week. They said they
39:50were thinking about getting you over
39:51there. So
39:54because the conversation was had
39:57mostly through that phone, okay? And and
40:00I know that sometimes uh
40:02the people erase text messages that
40:04won't might not show. I want to be able
40:06to see that and what you're telling us
40:09that you texted is true, okay? So I was
40:12going to ask you if it'd be okay with
40:14you if we are able to search through the
40:16phone and make sure that what you what
40:17you're telling us that those
40:18conversations that are in there are are
40:21exactly what you're saying. Are you okay
40:23with that?
40:24Is that a yes?
40:26Okay.
40:27Um all I need from you, Brian,
40:30and then I've already filled out this
40:31part that has your name, Brian R. Terry
40:34Richard, and this is for the blue
40:36Motorola, okay? All I need is a
40:38signature right here from you,
40:40the date, and I'll tell you the
40:43the time right now. And the time is
40:4411:53 p.m.
40:50>> Do Do have any questions about this
40:51form, Brian?
40:53>> No.
40:53>> Do you have any questions about the
40:54form?
40:56Take a Take a minute and read it, okay?
41:09>> When you say here and here and after,
41:11what?
41:12>> What?
41:14>> What do you mean here and
41:15>> Here and after Here and after at this
41:16time and after this time referred to as
41:19the
41:19>> So your phone is from now on and the
41:21rest of this going to be referred to as
41:23electronic device. That way they don't
41:24have to keep saying blue Motorola or
41:26blue Motorola or blue Motorola.
41:29>> What's the passcode on the phone?
41:31>> There's no
41:31>> There's no passcode.
41:32>> There's no passcode.
41:33>> Okay.
41:39>> Be mindful of your surroundings, please.
41:44Yeah, I was going to use my other device
41:45for that.
41:49And you don't want to say anything under
41:50age?
41:51Under age too, huh?
41:53>> So on that phone we're also going to
41:54find a conversation between you and
41:55another person that's also under age, is
41:57that what you're saying?
41:58>> Yes, she's that conversation didn't
42:00include
42:01We had a conversation with him telling
42:03him to like
42:04but he didn't know good.
42:06>> Okay.
42:06>> I think he was going to talk to me.
42:08>> All right.
42:08Is he calling us back?
42:10>> It's just here in my mind right now.
42:11>> Anybody else or any photographs that
42:13we're going to find on there of any
42:14under age girls or anything like that?
42:17Not like that.
42:19>> This one doesn't have nothing on it.
42:23>> I appreciate you being honest with us,
42:24Brian.
42:25>> No, I mean y'all going to find it.
42:27>> Mhm.
42:27>> Just trying to help y'all out.
42:28>> I appreciate it, man. Thank you.
42:31And that's Is that just like a text
42:33message just so you have it on the cell
42:35phone?
42:36>> They said something about being a street
42:37dealer and all that stuff over here.
42:41It was good.
42:44But like I said, it's the same as
42:45strangers. I heard this happening in the
42:46union as I was riding.
42:48Cuz I was I was to go home with this.
42:51>> Mhm.
42:51>> But when you were trying to go home and
42:52while I was sitting at the store they
42:53told me that and I was like
42:58I was single.
43:05>> Do you have any questions for us, Brian?
43:08>> I'm not going to jail
43:10single.
43:14>> Brian,
43:15I you know, obviously you know, right?
43:18You said
43:20You wouldn't have
43:22how many cops jump out
43:24and detain you if this wasn't serious,
43:27right? You know that. You know how this
43:29works, right? You've been arrested
43:30before.
43:31>> But not for this.
43:32>> Not for this, exactly, but you've been
43:33arrested for other things, right? And
43:35it's a little bit different this time,
43:36right? Like the whole thing's been a
43:38little bit different. Just feels a
43:39little more serious, would you agree?
43:42Feels a little bit more intense.
43:44Right? So, you know, and I and I and
43:46like I said I I want to give you credit
43:48where credit is due because, you know,
43:50you have told us a lot, right?
43:53The only thing that The only thing that
43:54you haven't been honest about is, you
43:56know, your intentions towards the end.
43:58You said, "Oh, I was going to go home. I
43:59was going to go home." But, you know,
44:01obviously when you were apprehended you
44:02weren't headed in the direction of home.
44:03You were headed in the opposite
44:04direction.
44:05>> You were?
44:06>> My home is
44:08You know, my home is When I go outside I
44:10just see how it look when they drop off
44:12kids.
44:12>> Okay.
44:12>> My house was that way.
44:14>> Okay.
44:15>> There was two ways I could have went. I
44:17could have either went the way that
44:18y'all got me or I could have went the
44:20other way on the back road. Either way
44:23it goes directly to my house. I was
44:25going home.
44:26>> But it's also in the direction of the
44:27address that they gave to you, Brian.
44:29>> No, the address that The first I There
44:32was no address I think provided.
44:34I was just told that it was I was told
44:37that it was
44:39towards the
44:41What's that address? 7-Eleven in the
44:43area. Um
44:45Brooke Road.
44:46I was there when they caught me when
44:48they apprehended me. I was going in the
44:49opposite direction of where the location
44:52I was told that she was at.
44:54>> Is that the 7-Eleven you were at where
44:55you bought the Black and Mild or the one
44:58by the Royal King?
44:58>> Yes, you can go on the camera and you
45:00can see
45:00>> No, I believe you. And so you were
45:02leaving that one going towards your
45:04house which is by Howard
45:06>> I was going towards I was going to meet
45:08>> Okay, you were going to your house which
45:11is by Howard Middle you said. Is there
45:13any other gas stations near that that
45:15you could go
45:15>> There's a 7-Eleven there The only gas
45:17station since there's 7-Elevens there
45:19circle
45:21I'm getting it out to
45:22>> Which one was the other 7-Eleven?
45:23>> What do you mean? There's only two.
45:25>> Okay, you said the one by Royal King
45:27versus the other one.
45:28>> All right down Royal Oaks there.
45:30You can visit
45:32Which you would have
45:32>> same street?
45:33>> Yes, but it's just on the opposite side.
45:36It's on the same street. I don't know
45:38how to go go past.
45:40>> You mean there's only one gas station
45:41there?
45:41>> Yeah.
45:42>> But that means it's just like every
45:43other day
45:43>> It's so hard to keep track.
45:44>> It seems like every other day there's
45:45some new gas station.
45:46>> And car washes.
45:47>> Well, 7-Eleven life is weird.
45:53It's not the next life.
45:55Where is it?
45:56Yeah, the liar.
45:57>> I can't even talk about it.
46:00>> I don't see it on 441 the new one.
46:03>> Is this the Is this closer to the
46:05interstate?
46:06>> Oh, you talking about the one on 441
46:08down there?
46:09>> Yeah, where you trying to go?
46:10>> Yeah, I yeah, that one is Royal Oaks.
46:11>> Okay, the one on Pine.
46:12>> Yeah.
46:13>> Okay, I know what you're talking about.
46:14>> Yeah, yeah, I know what you're talking
46:15about the one over there across from the
46:16U-Haul place. All right, man. So, I'm
46:18going to answer your question. Yeah,
46:20like you are
46:21>> You can change that.
46:22>> out of my pocket. I literally I was sat
46:24on my phone you can go to my car and I
46:26sat on my phone trying to
46:28call my [ __ ] call my car to scrape up
46:31money to get a Black and Mild. And I
46:33asked my uncle I said cuz I had a 52
46:36cents on my PayPal and I had 20 cents on
46:39my Cash App.
46:41And I asked my uncle I said, "Do you
46:43have any cents you can give me like $2?"
46:45And I was originally going to get two
46:47Black and Mild but
46:49they didn't have what I had in the one
46:51store.
46:52>> So, you you didn't even have the money
46:53to buy a condom.
46:56So, maybe this
46:56>> That's why I wasn't worried doing it.
46:58>> You you never you said you were going to
47:00buy a condom but you never
47:02you didn't have the money but it was
47:03because you didn't use the money. You
47:04were scraping up change to buy a blunt.
47:07>> If I got the money or not, I have a bag
47:09of condoms that my mom gave me like a
47:12couple months ago.
47:13They're at my house. I don't
47:16If I needed a condom, I could have just
47:18got I could have just used a dollar just
47:20to get a condom. I mean, I don't know
47:22how much condoms cost or
47:24>> Okay.
47:25>> I could have got it from there. Do you
47:27know what I'm saying? Look, I scraped up
47:28money. My original My original thing My
47:31original going out wasn't to flirt her.
47:34It just had to be in the direction. I
47:37was already getting a vibe. I stopped
47:39smoking blunts.
47:40But I'm going through it. Sorry.
47:42>> To answer your question that you asked
47:44us earlier, I mean, yeah, you are you
47:46are being arrested. Okay, buddy.
47:48>> Dude. Dude.
47:54I'm
47:55I'm worried.
47:56Losing time.
47:59>> All right. So the charges you're going
48:00to be
48:01being charged with is uh
48:02traveling to meet a minor and uh the
48:06unlawful use of a two-way communication
48:08of device.
48:10Uh which both are felonies.
48:13Okay.
48:14Are you on any
48:16probation or anything?
48:18You're not on probation for anything?
48:20Okay.
48:21>> So what what what is what is like the
48:23time limit on this?
48:26>> I'm assuming.
48:27>> Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you'll
48:28you'll get there. I got to look and see
48:30if
48:31you're
48:32He's telling me I'm going to go inside
48:34or something so I just want to know.
48:35>> He's talking about how long you're going
48:36to be like in jail tonight or like what
48:38the sentencing time is. Cuz you know
48:41that we don't know that. It varies
48:42depending on the you know, the judge.
48:44Yeah.
48:45>> Well, no, I I know that but I'm saying
48:47there's also there's always a general,
48:50you know.
48:51Like
48:52you rob a store, you get 20 years. It
48:55could be less. It could be more but you
48:56know, it was about 20. That's what I'm
48:58asking.
48:59Like what what you know?
49:01>> I will
49:02>> tell you if I knew off of the top of my
49:03head, but I don't, Brian. I don't. And I
49:05didn't if I knew I would tell you what
49:07the the ranges of that is, but
49:10it's not up to us. It's not up to what
49:12that is. Ultimately up to a judge.
49:15And then and at that point they decide
49:18what happens. Our our phones
49:20>> I'm sorry, Brian. I'm sorry.
49:22>> No, no. I was just going to say that
49:23this is just part of the judicial system
49:25as it all works. We do the beginning
49:27part and then it continues and goes into
49:29somebody else's hands after that.
49:31>> Is there a soul that I
49:33can get in touch with and drop down to a
49:35lawyer?
49:36>> You're going to have to talk to your
49:37lawyer. Your public defender and talk to
49:39them about it, all right?
49:40>> So, you'll you'll go
49:41to jail tonight, okay? Like I said, I
49:43don't I I can't remember if there's a
49:45bond on these. I'm
49:48fairly certain that there's not, but
49:50you'll have first appearance if not
49:52tomorrow morning, the morning after. And
49:54you'll be given a
49:57a lawyer.
49:58Okay? So,
49:59at that point you you can discuss with
50:01them
50:02how you guys wish to proceed with this.
50:04>> Is this going to be like
50:05for a scene camera or something? I mean,
50:07I know they had to, you know, take
50:08pictures or whatever. You know, that's
50:10their job.
50:11Is this going to be like broadcasting?
50:14>> Not sure, Brian.
50:16I'm I'm just a cop like a peon who does
50:19this. It's just
50:20a my part of the job. There's a lot of
50:21moving pieces.
50:22>> What were they?
50:24>> The what?
50:25>> The cuz there was like two cameras
50:27>> Cool people.
50:28>> Mhm.
50:28>> Things or whatever you call them.
50:30>> There's a chance that they're probably
50:32you'll you'll figure it out here soon,
50:34but um I'm going to find out the answer
50:36to the question that you asked us
50:37earlier with like the general idea and
50:38I'll let the deputy know so he can
50:39answer your question before he gets to
50:40the jail, okay?
50:41>> That's really all I just want to do is
50:43not broadcast that. It's just it's not a
50:45problem.
50:46>> It's time to go.
50:47>> All right, Brian. Come on. You're good
50:49with water right now, right?
51:01Hey, Brian. How are doing?
51:03Yeah, I need you to just be in the seat
51:05right there.
51:08Hey, so I've got a couple questions for
51:09you.
51:10I need you to help me out to understand
51:12what happened to my
51:14And uh
51:15it looks like you got online
51:19and met a
51:20girl.
51:21>> I'm not trying to be rude, I just uh
51:23>> I know.
51:24>> No.
51:25Who do you work for?
51:26>> I'm Chris Hansen.
51:29I'm a journalist. I do stories on
51:31investigations like this one.
51:34And so I need to talk to you for a
51:35little bit.
51:40Just help me to understand what happened
51:41to my girl.
51:44>> I was already there when I got here.
51:46>> You can't what?
51:50>> I don't talk to
51:52>> I know, but I need to know. We're going
51:54to do a story on this, and so I need
51:56your insight
51:57so people can understand what happened.
51:59>> I'm not trying to be rude, but you
52:01understand that I have to keep this
52:02story private.
52:03>> Well, I'm going to need it from you
52:05firsthand.
52:06>> Does this have to do with my case? Does
52:09this
52:10>> This has to do with the story I'm doing
52:12on your case.
52:13>> What's your story with this girl? What's
52:15your story with this girl? Okay, so
52:17>> But when you said that when you said
52:19>> You got no control here, that's rule
52:20number one.
52:21>> Okay. You give up your reasonable
52:23expectation for privacy when you went
52:25>> I do have a right to leave.
52:26>> a girl for sex.
52:28>> But also this is my No, I don't have to
52:31like the car, so
52:33I have rights to
52:34>> You do have rights.
52:35>> Rights.
52:35>> Okay.
52:36>> It's a two different rights.
52:37>> Okay. Then then just just let me ask you
52:39a couple questions.
52:41When you said to this girl
52:44"What you want to [ __ ] or get ate? I
52:47feel like you got something on your
52:49mind, but you ain't saying." What did
52:50you mean by that?
52:55Help me out.
53:00>> Sorry.
53:01I'm not trying to be rude or anything.
53:03>> I'm not trying to be rude, either, but
53:05you understand my position here, right?
53:08Have you seen our stories before? To
53:10Catch a Predator take down with Chris
53:12Hansen?
53:15Our sting operations, have you seen
53:17those on TV?
53:20>> Sir, I'm not going to answer any of
53:22these questions. I'm not going to answer
53:23any of these questions. I don't have to
53:24answer questions. Please.
53:26>> You've been arrested for something
53:27similar before.
53:29>> I don't have to answer questions.
53:30>> Well, you should answer this one because
53:32it appears that when you were
53:34you were charged with lewd and
53:36lascivious
53:37behavior with a minor who was
53:39>> It was just thrown out.
53:41>> Mhm?
53:41>> It was just thrown out.
53:42>> Who was thrown out?
53:44Okay, well, that's see. These are the
53:45things I need to know.
53:46>> Well, what you need to know is that it's
53:48no longer on my record. I did my time.
53:51I'm not I put that in my past. Sir, I'm
53:53not going to bring that up.
53:54>> Okay. We're talking about the hearing
53:56now. Now that I hear you
53:57>> You don't trust me with that?
53:59>> No, I want to know about it because it's
54:01relevant to this case.
54:02>> I'm not going to talk about it. No, it's
54:03not. That happened years ago. Sir, that
54:04has nothing to do with this girl. It's
54:06two
54:06>> Okay.
54:07But you were she was
54:09>> Uh uh I'm not answering questions, sir.
54:10I'm sorry.
54:11>> When you say it was thrown out, what do
54:13you mean?
54:19>> Sir, I'm not answering questions.
54:21>> Okay, but you see why that would be
54:23relevant to somebody like me if you've
54:25been charged with a similar crime
54:27and then you show up tonight in the
54:29sting operation
54:32trying to meet a
54:34girl.
54:37You rode your bike.
54:39>> Sir, they didn't actually look up the
54:40case and actually see all everything
54:43that's on the computer.
54:43>> Well, help me now.
54:44>> No.
54:45>> You said you put it up. You said there's
54:47no case anymore, so you tell me.
54:49>> You pulled it up, so therefore that
54:50means you got something.
54:51>> I do have something, and I'd like you to
54:53tell me about it.
54:54>> No, I'm just what I'm going to tell you
54:56is, sir, you dig you dig That's your job
54:59to dig into this stuff. So, I mean So,
55:02I'm going to let you dig into that and
55:04do your job. Okay, that's what you get
55:06paid for.
55:06>> Well, what I dug into was
55:08something you said, which was "What you
55:11want to [ __ ] or get ate?" What did you
55:13mean by that when you said it to a
55:17>> How long am I here for?
55:19>> Until I get some answers.
55:22So, it's up to you.
55:24This is going to be on the television.
55:25It's going to be part of our story.
55:27And I would think that somebody like you
55:29would want to
55:31put it into context.
55:34Your family's going to see it.
55:35>> We do.
55:38All right.
55:39>> Is there anything else you want to tell
55:40them? All right.
55:41>> All right.
55:42Can you look at me?
55:43>> Yeah.
55:43>> Okay. I'm fine. Please don't look down
55:45cuz I feel like that's disrespectful.
55:47>> Okay.
55:48>> Okay. So, are y'all Are y'all paying
55:49attention?
55:51Y'all good? Good.
55:53Okay.
55:54There's something
55:55sir.
55:58These million all of y'all people all of
56:01y'all people
56:04you If you're going to tell a story or
56:06something, sir, you have to tell a story
56:08the whole story, okay? That's the type
56:10of person I am.
56:11There's always two sides to a story. All
56:13right? If you're going to pull up
56:15something on somebody
56:18you need to have everything that you
56:20need to have, okay? I'm not trying to
56:22let you get the upper hand on me because
56:25I know at the end of the day what's
56:26going to happen is footage is going to
56:28get out. Things are going to get
56:31twisted and edited and this and that and
56:34this and that.
56:36Okay, and the millions people there's
56:38not nobody's going to understand this
56:39situation.
56:41Okay, do you understand this? Have you
56:43been in this situation?
56:44>> No, I've never been in this situation
56:46right there.
56:47>> So, I want you to step out of the Chris
56:51Hansen shoes for a second
56:54and put yourself on the other side of
56:55that camera.
56:57How are you going to judge me? I want to
56:59know this is going on TV, right?
57:00>> Mhm.
57:01>> Okay, I'm asking you this. How would you
57:03judge?
57:04>> I'll judge you by what you tell me and
57:06the context you give me about your
57:07story.
57:08>> What I'm saying is
57:10off of what you have, what you put up
57:12>> All I know is that there's a record of
57:14activity like this, and I'm asking you
57:16to provide context. If you were
57:17wrongfully charged, if there's more to
57:20the story
57:21>> Do you want to know what happened?
57:22>> Yes.
57:23>> You want to know what happened?
57:24>> Yeah, tell it.
57:24>> Do you know what the Arnett House is?
57:26>> The what?
57:26>> The Arnett House.
57:27>> No, tell me.
57:28>> It's a group home.
57:29>> Yeah, okay.
57:31>> A group home that I wasn't supposed to
57:32be in. Got it, right? I was in there
57:35because I was waiting on my program.
57:37Okay?
57:38>> I get
57:39>> So, they didn't want me
57:40They didn't want me to get locked up,
57:42go back into the system.
57:45Okay? So, I did not have nowhere to go.
57:47Have you ever been homeless?
57:49>> No.
57:49>> No.
57:50I don't expect you to understand what it
57:53feels like to be young and homeless and
57:56have you nobody to go to, nobody to take
57:59you in. Okay?
58:02I'm not justifying my case,
58:05but the facts are the matter of the
58:07case,
58:09of which you don't know. What you think
58:11you know
58:13is that this girl
58:16snuck
58:17about
58:2030 ft cuz she was at the end of the
58:22girls' hall.
58:23She snuck 30 ft,
58:26went around the island
58:28that had a stall of this is glass.
58:31That's glass, that's glass, that's
58:32glass, so they could see.
58:34Okay, this is still a locked up
58:36facility.
58:37All right.
58:38She had to help some other females to
58:41help her while she crawled.
58:44Okay?
58:45Do Do I need to give you an example?
58:47>> No, I get
58:51>> This is what I mean by crawl. This girl
58:53crawled like this.
58:54>> This is at the group home?
58:56>> Correct, yes. This girl crawled, okay?
58:59Now, at the time
59:01that she came
59:03to my room,
59:05which was also
59:06where you go to the island, my room was
59:0930 ft that way.
59:11Okay? So, you do the alphabet. That's 30
59:14+ 30 = plus
59:1710 by 10, that's supposed to be 80 for
59:20her birthday. That this person
59:23had other females, her peers,
59:27help her get to me.
59:29Okay? Meanwhile, this is on Friday.
59:33Fridays have the most staff. It's about
59:36four to five to six staff, maybe seven.
59:40Okay?
59:41She had help to get around every
59:43[clears throat] single staff
59:45to get to my room.
59:48Okay?
59:49But mind you, there was a guy there that
59:52he was a frat boy, whatever he was back
59:54in his time. Okay?
59:57He know I wanted to get fit. I just
1:00:00wanted to be fit. I wanted to do
1:00:01push-ups, stuff like that. Okay? He
1:00:03would come to my room.
1:00:07Drop 25.
1:00:09And I would get out of bed, drop 25.
1:00:13Come early morning,
1:00:16drop 50.
1:00:17I'm dropping 20.
1:00:19You'll drop 25 diamonds.
1:00:21You'll drop 25 diamonds.
1:00:2375 wives, I'll drop 25 wives.
1:00:27And then
1:00:29in my head,
1:00:31this was my coach.
1:00:33Okay?
1:00:35So when I got a stalk
1:00:37on my door,
1:00:39I thought it was my coach, and it was
1:00:41this girl.
1:00:42Open the door.
1:00:44So what do you do when you first open
1:00:46the door?
1:00:47You open it wide, don't you?
1:00:50Okay.
1:00:52Now this place has cameras. So if you
1:00:54really want to know what people are
1:00:55doing, you can
1:00:56You can go up there to Arnold House.
1:00:58They're stealing up from my room. Is
1:00:59that a no-go?
1:01:00>> Mhm.
1:01:02>> It was probably about
1:01:0415, 20 minutes maybe.
1:01:05>> So she comes in the room, then what
1:01:07happens?
1:01:08>> She came in the room.
1:01:10I'm thinking that this is is
1:01:14First of all, I When you When you open
1:01:16the door, do you think to look down?
1:01:18>> Mhm.
1:01:19>> No.
1:01:20They don't.
1:01:22Nobody does.
1:01:22>> Nobody thinks to
1:01:24>> They just open the door, look down. No,
1:01:25they don't.
1:01:26You look at eye level because
1:01:28if somebody's knocking on your door,
1:01:30clearly it's a person that is standing
1:01:33there.
1:01:34Okay?
1:01:36When I did like this,
1:01:38I looked out cuz mind you, there's
1:01:40nobody there.
1:01:41When I looked to the right,
1:01:43there's the exit door about 5 ft away
1:01:46from me. So, there's nobody going to be
1:01:47over there.
1:01:49And if it was somebody going through
1:01:50that door, they're walking through the
1:01:52wall.
1:01:53Okay?
1:01:54Now,
1:01:56there was nothing in my room.
1:01:59I freaked the [ __ ] out.
1:02:01Okay?
1:02:02Yes, we we we did stuff.
1:02:04>> Mhm.
1:02:05>> But also, what you don't know, sir,
1:02:07this is why I tell you you
1:02:09If you're going to do a case on
1:02:10somebody, bring up their facts. Okay?
1:02:13You need to actually look into it.
1:02:15>> Right.
1:02:16>> What this girl told me was that she was
1:02:20I was at the time about
1:02:24Yeah.
1:02:25She told me she was around the same age
1:02:27as me. Now, the next morning,
1:02:31when the police came for me,
1:02:33that's when I found out
1:02:35that she wasn't my age.
1:02:36>> It seems to me
1:02:38Brian, that you explained it this way.
1:02:41Same way you explained it to me.
1:02:43That law enforcement would understand
1:02:45that this wasn't you being a predator.
1:02:48Right? This was just something that
1:02:50happened in this unique situation.
1:02:54Are you saying that they railroaded you
1:02:56at the time?
1:02:57>> What do you mean?
1:02:58>> Did they
1:02:59push you into accepting charges that you
1:03:01were not guilty of?
1:03:03>> What do What do you mean, push me? I
1:03:04didn't do something wrong.
1:03:06>> What happened after that incident? Were
1:03:08you criminally prosecuted? Was there a
1:03:10plea bargain? What happened?
1:03:11>> I mean, you put it up.
1:03:12>> So, plea deal, no prosecution, sir?
1:03:15Okay.
1:03:17And then it went been your record after
1:03:18a certain amount of time.
1:03:20>> Okay. Cuz besides the weed I don't need
1:03:22to do anything.
1:03:24>> If you can explain that so articulately
1:03:27to me, and you're obviously a bright
1:03:29guy,
1:03:31how did you get caught up in the
1:03:32situation you got caught up in tonight?
1:03:35And what did you even do at the August
1:03:36company?
1:03:40You see what I'm saying?
1:03:42I understand your story and I accept
1:03:45that story.
1:03:47But tonight you're in a situation you
1:03:49could have avoided.
1:03:51And you're a grown man now. You're 25.
1:03:55So explain to me why you would even
1:03:58entertain meeting somebody who told you
1:04:00they were
1:04:01especially having gone through this
1:04:04before.
1:04:06>> This is totally different, sir. I
1:04:08understand
1:04:08>> I understand it's totally different.
1:04:09>> So you can't This is totally
1:04:11>> I I I
1:04:12>> You can't compare it to
1:04:13>> I understand everything.
1:04:14>> [clears throat]
1:04:14>> But this is not what you're saying.
1:04:16>> All right. So so given that, which was
1:04:19unpleasant for you,
1:04:21>> [clears throat]
1:04:23>> and unfortunate,
1:04:25but why would you even take the risk
1:04:28tonight? And you put significant effort
1:04:30into riding your bike over to a location
1:04:32in the early hours.
1:04:35>> So like I said, if you going to tell the
1:04:37story,
1:04:38>> Yep.
1:04:38>> you have to tell the whole story. Sure.
1:04:40What you're telling all your viewers is
1:04:42only
1:04:44the fact of that one instance.
1:04:46>> Well, I'm not telling my viewers
1:04:47anything until I get your side of the
1:04:49story.
1:04:50>> I will let you But that's the only thing
1:04:52>> But this is what you're in. But I know,
1:04:53but that's what constitutes the criminal
1:04:55charge here. And that's going to be the
1:04:57problem for you then.
1:04:58>> Okay. I already said that many times.
1:04:59>> So put it in the context for me and help
1:05:02me to understand it so my audience can
1:05:04understand
1:05:04>> Where do you Where do you want me to
1:05:05understand so that
1:05:06>> Well, why did you say it?
1:05:07>> Cuz I I
1:05:08I'm I'm a realist. Okay?
1:05:10>> Yeah.
1:05:11>> At the end of the day, sir, I know you
1:05:13don't give a [ __ ] about me. You do not
1:05:14care who this is. My way of feeling like
1:05:16I'm talking to a brick wall.
1:05:18I I would appreciate You don't care
1:05:20about me. okay? I care about the truth.
1:05:22I care about your story.
1:05:24>> Do you?
1:05:25>> Sir, you get paid for this.
1:05:27>> You like getting paid for this.
1:05:28>> What's my plan today?
1:05:29>> Do you Do you really care? Or do you
1:05:32really care? Cuz hey, here's another
1:05:34good lie.
1:05:36>> Well, I have a responsibility to tell
1:05:38the truth as best I can about every
1:05:40situation I encountered, and that's why
1:05:42I'm here. If I wanted to, I could just
1:05:44take the video of the police and the
1:05:45sheriff's interview and just say, "Look,
1:05:47this is what happened."
1:05:48But I came in here to personally get
1:05:51your side of the story.
1:05:52That's why I'm here. If I was lazy,
1:05:55I could have gotten it the lazy way.
1:05:57But I'm not that way.
1:05:59>> What is this What is this going to do
1:06:00for me, sir?
1:06:01>> I'm just trying to put it into context,
1:06:03you know?
1:06:03>> I asked you a question earlier. I asked
1:06:05you a question earlier.
1:06:05>> If you see me
1:06:06>> I asked you a question that I asked.
1:06:07What is this going to do for me? It's
1:06:08going to
1:06:09>> Well, allow people to understand how you
1:06:11got into the situation you're
1:06:13>> I asked I asked you talk about other
1:06:14people, sir.
1:06:15>> I'm talking about me.
1:06:16>> You're interviewing me.
1:06:18>> I am interviewing
1:06:19>> Okay, so now talk about me and the two
1:06:21words.
1:06:21>> Right.
1:06:22>> Right? Let's Let's talk about Let's
1:06:24>> Well, why did you get on your bike and
1:06:26ride over to meet this girl?
1:06:28>> I got a Black & Mild, 50 cents in my
1:06:30hand before I rode right now. And I just
1:06:32got some money to get a Black & Mild,
1:06:34sir.
1:06:36Now, if you want to, you can go up to
1:06:38their 7-Eleven, I'm pretty sure their
1:06:39guy is still working there. He'll tell
1:06:41you.
1:06:42As soon as I got there, I went in there
1:06:44and got me a Black & Mild.
1:06:46Okay.
1:06:46Now, I actually needed a Black Mild that
1:06:48I was searching for, I didn't end up
1:06:50getting. I end up having to get a
1:06:51different one.
1:06:53>> So, you're saying you weren't going to
1:06:54go meet this girl?
1:06:56>> Yeah, I really had no intention of
1:06:58trying to
1:06:59What I said and what you're not telling
1:07:01your viewers. You see what I'm talking
1:07:03about. If you tell a story, you got to
1:07:05tell it all, sir.
1:07:06You can't do that.
1:07:08You cannot do that.
1:07:09>> So, you didn't
1:07:09What was your plan What was your plan
1:07:11What was your plan today? Just go get a
1:07:12Black & Mild and drive back Ride your
1:07:14bike back to the house?
1:07:15>> You said what was my plan?
1:07:16>> Yeah.
1:07:19>> I mean,
1:07:20you clearly got the text.
1:07:23So, you
1:07:24>> Well, you got You see me
1:07:25>> indicating that I'm misinterpreting this
1:07:27text. So, if I'm misinterpreting it
1:07:31>> Okay, so saying it's the Florida.
1:07:32>> You Okay, so my point is
1:07:35>> First of all, you would actually Yeah,
1:07:36you did misinterpret that text, all
1:07:38right.
1:07:38>> Okay, I just we just discussed that,
1:07:41too.
1:07:41>> Okay.
1:07:42Okay.
1:07:43>> To put it in the context, okay.
1:07:45>> There was a question mark on that. That
1:07:47was a question. It wasn't a statement.
1:07:49>> So, you were asking her to
1:07:51And if you if you want you want to
1:07:53>> You want to get ate?
1:07:54>> If you'd like to
1:07:55>> Listen, listen to me, please. Listen,
1:07:57okay, please. I'm not trying to be an
1:07:59[ __ ] to you
1:08:00>> Right.
1:08:00>> at all. I am frustrated, but I'm trying
1:08:02to take a
1:08:03many deep breaths, which was I can,
1:08:06okay. I got to go to jail.
1:08:08>> Yeah, I know.
1:08:08>> All right.
1:08:10I got to face the [ __ ] of the worst
1:08:12[ __ ] jail in all of Florida.
1:08:15>> Have you ever been to this [ __ ] jail?
1:08:17>> Not behind the bars, no.
1:08:18>> Oh, you don't need to be behind it. Just
1:08:21go in there.
1:08:21>> Mhm.
1:08:22>> You will see what I'm talking
1:08:23>> Yeah.
1:08:24>> I promise you. You don't You don't even
1:08:26have to be arrested.
1:08:28Tell them you want to go interview
1:08:30somebody in there.
1:08:31And just look around. You see this?
1:08:34See this?
1:08:36This looks way disgusting.
1:08:39Okay.
1:08:41This right here?
1:08:43That right there?
1:08:44>> Mhm.
1:08:45>> You won't feel that. You won't get that.
1:08:48And there's none of these [ __ ]
1:08:50chairs. There's no carpets.
1:08:52Okay, there's [ __ ] rats
1:08:55that literally are rolling around
1:09:00at night
1:09:02in these pods. I have seen them myself.
1:09:05I have counted them myself. Seven
1:09:07[ __ ] rats came out of a [ __ ] hole.
1:09:10Okay?
1:09:11So, please [ __ ] excuse me
1:09:15if I'm frustrated because you don't want
1:09:17to [ __ ] tell the things that happened
1:09:20before that.
1:09:21>> But, what happened before that? Tell me.
1:09:23>> You
1:09:29>> And then I watched you in here with
1:09:30detectives crying because you let your
1:09:31grandmother down by getting arrested
1:09:33tonight.
1:09:34So,
1:09:36>> Sir, I'm not I should not have let you
1:09:37see the text when I talked on the phone.
1:09:39>> Okay.
1:09:40>> Yeah.
1:09:41All right.
1:09:43I'm not threatening you. I don't feel
1:09:44I'm I'm not I'm not threatening
1:09:46>> get threatened.
1:09:47>> But,
1:09:48bringing my grandma
1:09:50>> I'm only bringing it up because I'm only
1:09:52bringing it up
1:09:53>> because
1:09:54>> Please don't do that. Please don't
1:09:55>> serious.
1:09:56>> I see that it's like With them, that's
1:09:58their job. They're law enforcement. You
1:10:00are not law enforcement. I don't have to
1:10:02tell you [ __ ]
1:10:03>> Okay.
1:10:04Okay.
1:10:06>> Everything I just said within the past
1:10:0810 20 minutes, I did not have to [ __ ]
1:10:09kill you.
1:10:10>> No, I understand. I appreciate that.
1:10:12All right. So, tell me what led up to
1:10:14this that you don't think I understand.
1:10:17>> What you don't understand is the real
1:10:19reason why I was already going to the
1:10:21[ __ ] store.
1:10:22>> To get a flight and run.
1:10:24>> What you have with me, you know?
1:10:26Save percentage.
1:10:28>> Got it.
1:10:29So, you had no intention of meeting this
1:10:32girl, is what you're telling me.
1:10:33>> What I'm telling you is there's a text
1:10:36message in there. I mean, you and I just
1:10:37talked about this text message.
1:10:41Okay. I said we can watch movies and I
1:10:45said
1:10:46I also said we don't have to do
1:10:49anything.
1:10:50We could sit there and watch each other
1:10:52and just stare at each other just the
1:10:54way me and you look.
1:10:55We could do that, you know? Okay.
1:10:58Also, the message that you don't have on
1:11:01there that you're not telling me if you
1:11:02want to.
1:11:04Is that
1:11:05I said
1:11:07I will sit there and stare at you. I
1:11:09don't care. I'm not trying to do
1:11:11anything for it. Don't do it.
1:11:13You kidding?
1:11:14When I sent that text that was the text
1:11:18of me saying it was That's why I said
1:11:20you don't have the full story.
1:11:21>> Right.
1:11:22>> Because you need to get the text that's
1:11:23after that. If you're going to get the
1:11:24text, sir you need to get the full text
1:11:27and ask me
1:11:27I'm going to get the full text.
1:11:29>> Okay.
1:11:30But
1:11:30>> What?
1:11:30>> What what I said was
1:11:33you seem like you want to say something
1:11:36but you're not saying it.
1:11:38Okay.
1:11:41No, I I don't know
1:11:43I can't recall if I said that before or
1:11:45after that message. I pretty sure I
1:11:48realized that it did after. It was one
1:11:51of It was close to that message, either
1:11:52before or after.
1:11:53>> Okay.
1:11:54>> That's what I said. So, if you want to
1:11:55whole story of it sounds like a whole
1:11:57story.
1:11:58>> But here's the thing
1:11:59>> Brian.
1:12:00>> Why even take the risk of you having the
1:12:03conversation and coming out to
1:12:06to to having her direction? I mean, are
1:12:08you telling me that
1:12:10the conversation and your trip to the
1:12:12store were unrelated?
1:12:15>> And this happened to be in a certain up
1:12:17on the tennis store. All right, that's
1:12:19that's the end of that.
1:12:20>> So, you had the conversation, it ended,
1:12:22you weren't going to do anything, you
1:12:23weren't going to meet them there.
1:12:25>> When Listen.
1:12:26>> And you just went up there to get a
1:12:28the cigarette.
1:12:29>> This is why I survived.
1:12:31>> I'm just trying
1:12:31>> I need you. I need you to get the full
1:12:35story.
1:12:35>> Right.
1:12:36>> Okay.
1:12:37Cuz if you you just get this little one
1:12:39part, but you're not going to know the
1:12:41whole story.
1:12:41>> So, but I just Here's what I'm trying to
1:12:43clarify. So, what you're telling me is
1:12:44yeah, you had this chat
1:12:47but it had no relation to you going to
1:12:50the store to get the Black & Mild.
1:12:55You had the chat.
1:12:56That was over and you just happened to
1:12:58be in that vicinity getting a cigar. Is
1:13:00that
1:13:02what happened?
1:13:02>> Sir, I told them all 20 minutes today
1:13:07trying to call my cards.
1:13:09Just trying to get a dollar.
1:13:13A dollar. Do you know how that feels?
1:13:15>> Huh?
1:13:15>> I don't feel like you know how that
1:13:16feels.
1:13:18To scrape up the money
1:13:20to have to call everyone of your cards.
1:13:25Just to get a dollar. Do you know how
1:13:26that feels?
1:13:28No.
1:13:29All right.
1:13:30I'm going inside.
1:13:32Fair.
1:13:33Now, some most of those have the people
1:13:35that are going to be watching this
1:13:37When you say have some people that are
1:13:39going to be watching this
1:13:40>> They will understand.
1:13:41>> They will understand. Okay.
1:13:43How it feels to just scrape up a [ __ ]
1:13:45dollar to
1:13:48>> Okay.
1:13:48>> And I appreciate that, but he has to ask
1:13:50my uncle Right. for 50 cents.
1:13:53He gave me $2. I don't know how much a
1:13:55[ __ ] car he got.
1:13:57I would assume he costs about a dollar
1:13:59or something like that.
1:14:01Okay. If I got $2 and I already had 50
1:14:04cents on one car or 20 cents on another
1:14:06cars
1:14:07Those two things if I was going to get a
1:14:09car to go with got us home.
1:14:12It's the same thing I told the
1:14:13detective. It's not a difference, sir.
1:14:16Okay.
1:14:17They said, "Why don't you get a car to
1:14:18go home?"
1:14:20I said and they said, "You weren't going
1:14:21back to the house."
1:14:23All right.
1:14:24My house is in the opposite direction.
1:14:27>> Right. That's where you were headed.
1:14:29>> No, my house is in the same direction
1:14:32where I was heading where they got me.
1:14:34>> See, what the police are saying what the
1:14:35sheriffs are saying is that you were
1:14:36headed towards where you thought the
1:14:38girl was.
1:14:40>> No, when they picked me up Right.
1:14:43I was heading in the opposite direction.
1:14:45>> Okay.
1:14:46>> Now, if
1:14:48I didn't mess around and got it confused
1:14:50or something
1:14:52It was definitely everyone's that I was
1:14:54Okay, cool.
1:14:56But I was going home.
1:14:58>> Okay.
1:15:01So, what do you think should happen?
1:15:04They should cut you loose.
1:15:06>> They're not saying that.
1:15:07>> No, I'm asking. What What do you think
1:15:09should happen?
1:15:12>> I mean, I'm going to Of course, I'm
1:15:14going to think like everybody else and
1:15:16just want it all to be over so we live a
1:15:18life.
1:15:20>> Okay.
1:15:22>> Right now, you're interviewing me and
1:15:24I'm thinking about my kids.
1:15:26>> Okay.
1:15:27>> How many kids do you
1:15:27>> I'm thinking about I'm thinking about
1:15:31me not being able to see my Seeing my
1:15:33kids?
1:15:34>> Mhm.
1:15:35>> Have you ever you ever thought about how
1:15:37you're not able to see your kids?
1:15:39>> I've never gotten online and had a
1:15:41conversation with somebody who started
1:15:42their own talking about serious
1:15:44>> The reason you're here or sitting here
1:15:46is just because you got into a
1:15:48conversation with someone who told you
1:15:49to do that.
1:15:51So, we can talk about all kinds of big
1:15:52picture societal problems, but the fact
1:15:55is, had you not had the conversation,
1:15:57you wouldn't be here today.
1:15:58>> Yes, you are.
1:15:59>> Okay.
1:16:00>> Okay.
1:16:00>> saying you're wrong.
1:16:01>> Okay.
1:16:02>> But what I am saying you're wrong on
1:16:04is they started out with life for you to
1:16:06get more
1:16:07than just that one and tell them through
1:16:09it just that one.
1:16:10>> Well, I'm going to get get it all. I'm
1:16:12going to have a full chat. So, we need
1:16:14to Is there anything else you want to
1:16:15tell me?
1:16:17Okay.
1:16:19All right, thanks for talking to me. I
1:16:20appreciate it.
1:16:22Good luck, man.
1:16:24>> All right.
1:16:35>> Hey Brian, you all right? You need to go
1:16:36to the bathroom or anything?
1:16:37>> Yeah, I'm all right. I need to use the
1:16:38bathroom.
1:16:39>> Okay. Here's what I'll do. I'll put your
1:16:40handcuffs up front. All right, so you
1:16:41can go do what you got to do. All right.
1:16:43We'll get out of here.
1:16:49Do you need any more water or anything?
1:16:50You got a full bottle right there.
1:16:53Got a bottle of water here so it don't
1:16:54pinch your bladder.
1:16:59All right, man.
1:16:59>> I'm going to go.
1:17:00>> All right.
1:17:01>> You know how long I
1:17:02You want to bring my bottle of water in?
1:17:03>> You can leave it out there if you want,
1:17:04unless you want
1:17:06You can have it if you want.
1:17:07>> Um can I bring my phone back in here?
1:17:09>> No.
1:17:10>> Okay. Can I get that then?
1:17:17>> Following the interrogation, Brian Terry
1:17:20faced [music] two felony charges related
1:17:22to his online conversations with someone
1:17:24he believed was underage [music]
1:17:26and his decision to travel to meet that
1:17:28person.
1:17:30Under Florida law, arranging to meet
1:17:32someone you believe is underage for
1:17:34sexual [music] purposes can still be a
1:17:36crime even if that person is actually an
1:17:38undercover officer.
1:17:40This meant that Terry [music] could face
1:17:42prosecution despite no actual child
1:17:44being involved.
1:17:46Terry was [music] one of 40 men arrested
1:17:48during a 6-day undercover operation
1:17:51conducted by the Marion County Sheriff's
1:17:53[music] Office and several other
1:17:55agencies in July 2025.
1:17:58Investigators had posed as underage
1:18:00individuals online documenting
1:18:03conversations and arranging meetings
1:18:05with suspects.
1:18:06On October 15th, 2025,
1:18:09Terry was convicted of traveling to meet
1:18:12a minor after using a computer to lure
1:18:14[music] a child.
1:18:15The case was resolved without going to
1:18:17trial.
1:18:19He was sentenced [music] to 3 years and
1:18:216 months in Florida State Prison along
1:18:24with 3 years of sex offender probation.
1:18:26He also received [music] credit for 2
1:18:28months and 24 days already served.
1:18:31A second charge involving the unlawful
1:18:34use of a communication device was
1:18:36dropped by [music] prosecutors.
1:18:38As of October 2026,
1:18:41Terry is expected to still be serving
1:18:43his 3 and 1/2 year prison sentence
1:18:45[music] in Florida.
1:18:46Upon his release, he will face 3 years
1:18:49of sex offender probation and will be
1:18:51required [music] to maintain his
1:18:53registration as a sex offender generally
1:18:55for the rest of his life.
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