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  1. 0:00The first thing to note about the
  2. 0:01Iranian Revolution is that nobody saw it
  3. 0:03coming. I'm Professor Tarek Masoud from
  4. 0:05Harvard University. Let's answer your
  5. 0:07questions from the internet. This is
  6. 0:08Tech Support Iran.
  7. 0:11>> [music]
  8. 0:14>> Here's a question from Quora. Is Iran an
  9. 0:17Arab country? If an Arab country is a
  10. 0:20country where the majority of people
  11. 0:21speak Arabic, then the answer is no. In
  12. 0:25Iran, people don't speak Arabic, they
  13. 0:27speak Persian. And Persian, even though
  14. 0:30it's written with the Arabic script, and
  15. 0:32so it would look like Arabic to somebody
  16. 0:34who doesn't know the language, it's
  17. 0:36actually an Indo-European language. And
  18. 0:38so, there's lots of words in Persian
  19. 0:40that might sound familiar to a Western
  20. 0:42ear. Like the word for name is nam, the
  21. 0:44word for cow is gav, the word for mother
  22. 0:47is madar, father is pedar, brother is
  23. 0:49baradar. Arabic is a Semitic language.
  24. 0:52It's much more closely related to
  25. 0:54Hebrew, which is spoken in Israel, or
  26. 0:56Amharic, which is one of the languages
  27. 0:58spoken in Ethiopia. So, Iranians aren't
  28. 1:01Arabs. That said, there's obviously a
  29. 1:04lot of traffic between the Arab world
  30. 1:08and the Persian world. After all, they
  31. 1:10practice Islam. Islam was brought to
  32. 1:12them by the Arabs. The brand of Islam
  33. 1:16that they practice, Shia Islam, one of
  34. 1:19its core features is veneration of the
  35. 1:22Prophet Muhammad and the belief that
  36. 1:24descendants of the Prophet Muhammad have
  37. 1:27infallible religious authority. They're
  38. 1:30all Arabs. Many of the senior clerics,
  39. 1:33like Khamenei or Khomeini, you notice
  40. 1:36that they all wear black turbans. Those
  41. 1:38black turbans signal descent, direct
  42. 1:41descent, from the Prophet Muhammad. And
  43. 1:44so, again, they are basically saying
  44. 1:46we're descended from Arabs. And yet,
  45. 1:49Persians tend to view Arabs as
  46. 1:52unsophisticated,
  47. 1:53as Bedouins. They have slurs for Arabs.
  48. 1:57They call them lizard eaters. My Thai
  49. 1:59has grasshoppers. They also call them
  50. 2:01grasshopper eaters. Arabs also have
  51. 2:04their negative stereotypes of Persians.
  52. 2:07But here's the thing, many of the
  53. 2:09historical personages that Arabs will
  54. 2:11point to as examples of Arab
  55. 2:13contributions to human civilization
  56. 2:16actually are Persians. So for example,
  57. 2:18there was a medieval mathematician named
  58. 2:21Al-Khwarizmi who invented algebra. The
  59. 2:24word for algorithm comes from his name.
  60. 2:26And you'll often hear Arabs say, "We
  61. 2:28invented algebra. We invented the
  62. 2:29algorithm." He was a Persian. The
  63. 2:31founder of modern medicine, Avicenna,
  64. 2:34also a Persian. In fact, the greatest
  65. 2:37Arab grammarian was a guy named
  66. 2:40Sibawayh. This is a guy who codifies
  67. 2:42Arab grammar in the 8th century, also a
  68. 2:45Persian. So Iran is not an Arab country,
  69. 2:48but it has definitely experienced
  70. 2:49serious Arab influences, just like the
  71. 2:52Arabs have experienced serious Iranian
  72. 2:55Persian influences. Okay Sandwich 7208
  73. 2:58asks, "How did Iran become an Islamic
  74. 3:00country in the first place?" If the
  75. 3:02question is, "When did Iran become a
  76. 3:04Muslim country that practices Islam?"
  77. 3:06Well, that really starts with the Arab
  78. 3:08conquest of Persia in the 7th century
  79. 3:11AD. Before the Islamic conquest, Iran
  80. 3:14was a Zoroastrian country. They
  81. 3:16practiced a kind of monotheistic
  82. 3:18religion in which fire and the sun
  83. 3:21appear as very central elements in their
  84. 3:23rituals. And they ultimately converted
  85. 3:26to Islam over the following centuries,
  86. 3:28but they still retain a lot of
  87. 3:30Zoroastrian traditions. For example, one
  88. 3:32of the biggest holidays in Iran is
  89. 3:34Nowruz, which is the start of spring,
  90. 3:37which is absolutely something that comes
  91. 3:38from Zoroastrianism. Right before that,
  92. 3:40they have a celebration called
  93. 3:42Chaharshanbe Suri, where they leap over
  94. 3:44fire in the hope of extracting the
  95. 3:47strength from the fire and giving to the
  96. 3:49fire their ailments, infirmities, and
  97. 3:52weaknesses. In fact, there are still
  98. 3:54Zoroastrians today. They're called
  99. 3:56Parsis. Many of them live in South Asia.
  100. 3:59The most famous Parsi, by the way, was
  101. 4:01Freddie Mercury, the lead singer of
  102. 4:02Queen. If your question is, "When did
  103. 4:05Iran become the Islamic Republic?" Well,
  104. 4:09that happened in 1979 with a revolution
  105. 4:12against the king of Iran at that time,
  106. 4:14an American client, Mohammad Reza Shah
  107. 4:17Pahlavi. And that was a revolution that
  108. 4:20was ultimately led by this man,
  109. 4:22Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. And he
  110. 4:25basically was the man who came up with
  111. 4:27the entirety of the political system
  112. 4:30that governs Iran today. And it's a
  113. 4:31political system that has at its top a
  114. 4:34senior religious leader. Some would call
  115. 4:37it a theocracy. Senior positions are
  116. 4:40held by Islamic clerics. Day-to-day life
  117. 4:43on the streets is mandated to conform to
  118. 4:46a particularly conservative
  119. 4:48understanding of Islam. So, if you're a
  120. 4:50woman in Iran, you have to dress
  121. 4:52Islamically. If you like to party, well,
  122. 4:55you're out of luck in Iran. You have to
  123. 4:57conform to what are considered to be
  124. 4:59Islamic standards of behavior.
  125. 5:01Aggravating our 131 asks, "What's going
  126. 5:05on with Iran's flag?" So, this is Iran's
  127. 5:09current flag. Three colors. The green
  128. 5:11represents Islam, the religion. White
  129. 5:14represents purity. Red represents the
  130. 5:17blood of the martyrs. And this is the
  131. 5:20pre-revolutionary Iranian flag. Same
  132. 5:23colors, but you have this device in the
  133. 5:26middle, which is the lion with the sword
  134. 5:28and the sun behind it. And that's really
  135. 5:30a symbol of Persian identity, of royal
  136. 5:33power. The sun represents
  137. 5:35Zoroastrianism. The Iranian flag after
  138. 5:381978 was adapted. They got rid of the
  139. 5:42lion and the sun, and they replaced it
  140. 5:44with this kind of stylized tulip, which
  141. 5:47in Persian culture is very important. It
  142. 5:49kind of represents martyrdom. You have
  143. 5:51the sword that represents the nation. It
  144. 5:54also looks like a stylized form of the
  145. 5:58name of God, Allah. The other difference
  146. 6:01is that you have here the words Allahu
  147. 6:04Akbar, God is great. There's 22 of them,
  148. 6:08and that symbolizes the date of the
  149. 6:10revolution, which is the 22nd day of the
  150. 6:13month of Bahman, which is a month in the
  151. 6:15Persian calendar. Now, today, you'll
  152. 6:18often see people waving this
  153. 6:21pre-revolutionary flag. It's kind of
  154. 6:23like an act of rebellion against the
  155. 6:26Islamic Republic. Jedi Blight asks,
  156. 6:29"Just how liberal {slash} progressive
  157. 6:31was Iran prior to the 1979 Revolution?"
  158. 6:35Prior to the 1979 Revolution, Iran was
  159. 6:38run by a king who was trying to make
  160. 6:43Iran, which was at that time a
  161. 6:45conservative society, more liberal and
  162. 6:47more Western. Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi
  163. 6:50was the second Shah or king in the
  164. 6:53so-called Pahlavi dynasty. The first was
  165. 6:56his father, who did a military coup
  166. 6:58against the previous Shah in the 1920s.
  167. 7:01He got a little too cozy with the Nazis,
  168. 7:04so the British overthrew him and
  169. 7:06installed his son in his place in 1941,
  170. 7:09and his son engaged in all kinds of
  171. 7:12reforms, particularly as they related to
  172. 7:14the rights of women, the role of Islam
  173. 7:17in society. He was trying to make the
  174. 7:19society more secular and more Western.
  175. 7:22You'll often see photographs of women
  176. 7:24before the revolution dressed in mini
  177. 7:26skirts or looking the way that a very
  178. 7:29modern Western women look, and that
  179. 7:32certainly was the case for a certain
  180. 7:34segment of the Iranian population, but
  181. 7:37again, the vast majority of the people
  182. 7:39in that country were conservative. Some
  183. 7:41people tend to present the Shah as a
  184. 7:43modern and progressive leader. And there
  185. 7:45certainly were elements of
  186. 7:47progressiveness in his program, but
  187. 7:49you've also got to remember this was a
  188. 7:51leader who was authoritarian. Iran was
  189. 7:54not a place where there was freedom of
  190. 7:56speech. Iran was not a place where there
  191. 7:58was democracy or respect for human
  192. 8:00rights. And that of course generated
  193. 8:03some of the backlash that ultimately led
  194. 8:05to the Iranian Revolution of 1979.
  195. 8:07Yogurt Closet Open 3567 asks, is Iran
  196. 8:12the only Middle Eastern country whose
  197. 8:14modern borders were not created by
  198. 8:16colonial powers? Great question, Yogurt
  199. 8:19Closet Open. Let's look at a map. This
  200. 8:22is a map of the Middle East and some of
  201. 8:25South Asia. And the first thing that you
  202. 8:27notice when you look at Middle Eastern
  203. 8:29countries like Iraq, Syria, and Jordan,
  204. 8:32the borders between them are very
  205. 8:35straight. That's because these are
  206. 8:37countries that emerged after the end of
  207. 8:39World War I, after the Ottoman Empire
  208. 8:42was dissolved and the British and the
  209. 8:44French took over. And basically they're
  210. 8:46the ones who drew these borders
  211. 8:48essentially with rulers and pens. Iran
  212. 8:50was never part of the Ottoman Empire.
  213. 8:52The way that Iran's borders were worked
  214. 8:54out was basically through fighting wars.
  215. 8:57Iran fought a series of wars with the
  216. 8:59Ottoman Empire that determined its
  217. 9:02western border. It fought wars with the
  218. 9:04Russian Empire that essentially
  219. 9:06determined its northern border. Its
  220. 9:08eastern borders were also mainly, but
  221. 9:11not totally, determined in wars with
  222. 9:13British India and with Herat in
  223. 9:16Afghanistan. These borders here are a
  224. 9:18little straighter because they actually
  225. 9:20were drawn by British mediators in the
  226. 9:2319th century. But essentially because
  227. 9:26Iran was an independent state, in fact
  228. 9:30it's one of the founding states of the
  229. 9:31League of Nations, its borders came
  230. 9:34about in a different way from the
  231. 9:36standard Middle Eastern country where
  232. 9:38the colonial powers drew all the
  233. 9:40borders. This is from the No Stupid
  234. 9:42Questions subreddit from F A R A N D
  235. 9:46Lahey. Why did the Iranian Revolution
  236. 9:49happen? Well, the first thing to note
  237. 9:50about the Iranian Revolution is that
  238. 9:52nobody saw it coming. The American
  239. 9:54president at the time, Jimmy Carter,
  240. 9:56actually visited Iran in 1977 and
  241. 9:59toasted it as an island of stability in
  242. 10:02a troubled region of the world. But they
  243. 10:04say hindsight is 20/20 and today there
  244. 10:07are a lot of factors that people point
  245. 10:09to as having led to the Iranian
  246. 10:11Revolution. The first is that the regime
  247. 10:13of the Shah was pretty repressive. He
  248. 10:16relied on his secret police to keep
  249. 10:18order, dissent was not tolerated, people
  250. 10:21were sent into exile and tortured. In
  251. 10:23fact, the person who ends up leading the
  252. 10:25Iranian Revolution, Ayatollah Ruhollah
  253. 10:27Khomeini, was a guy who was exiled
  254. 10:29because of his opposition to the Shah in
  255. 10:30the 1960s.
  256. 10:32Another factor is that people felt that
  257. 10:34the Shah was extremely wasteful with the
  258. 10:38country's resources. In 1971, he threw a
  259. 10:41lavish party that by some accounts cost
  260. 10:44almost 20 million dollars. The Guinness
  261. 10:47Book of World Records said that the
  262. 10:49banquet for that celebration was the
  263. 10:51longest banquet ever in recorded
  264. 10:54history. And so, Iranians looked at
  265. 10:56something like that and they felt that
  266. 10:57their country's wealth was being
  267. 10:59squandered. And then, the Shah's
  268. 11:01reforms, the liberalizing reforms, had
  269. 11:04really made him a lot of enemies in his
  270. 11:07country. He was also, by the end of
  271. 11:09this, very sick. He had cancer, his son
  272. 11:12was not yet of age, and his wife, the
  273. 11:15Shahbanu, was not terribly popular.
  274. 11:18Another reason for some of the
  275. 11:20discontent that bubbled up and caused
  276. 11:21the Iranian Revolution was a decline in
  277. 11:24oil prices that was caused by Saudi
  278. 11:26overproduction. And that caused some
  279. 11:28serious economic distress in Iran. All
  280. 11:31of these factors made it possible for
  281. 11:33protesters to see some weaknesses in the
  282. 11:36regime and to take to the streets in the
  283. 11:39hope of bringing it down. And the
  284. 11:40conditions ultimately ended up being
  285. 11:42ripe for a charismatic leader like
  286. 11:45Khomeini to take over and ride it into
  287. 11:48power and establish the Islamic
  288. 11:50Republic. Curry MVP2 asks, "The son of
  289. 11:53Iran's last Shah is rallying protesters,
  290. 11:56but do Iranians really want another
  291. 11:58king?" So, this is the pretender to the
  292. 12:02Iranian throne, a man named Reza
  293. 12:04Pahlavi, and he is the son of Mohammad
  294. 12:08Reza Shah Pahlavi, who was overthrown in
  295. 12:111979. Now, today in some of the protests
  296. 12:14that are happening on the streets in
  297. 12:16Iran, or at least that were happening
  298. 12:18before the bombing campaign, people
  299. 12:20absolutely were chanting his name
  300. 12:22saying, "Pahlavi will return." But, it's
  301. 12:24an open question as to whether that
  302. 12:26means they really want this guy back or
  303. 12:29they just want to taunt the regime by
  304. 12:30saying, "That hated dynasty that we
  305. 12:33overthrew is preferable to us than you
  306. 12:36are." He hasn't been in the country for
  307. 12:3947 years. So, there's a serious question
  308. 12:41as to whether Reza Shah actually has the
  309. 12:43wherewithal to govern Iran should the
  310. 12:47regime fall. Iran is made up of 40%
  311. 12:51ethnic minorities. Think people like
  312. 12:54Azeris, who speak Turkish, Kurds,
  313. 12:57there's a small Arab minority in Iran,
  314. 12:59and those people don't look fondly on
  315. 13:03the time of the Shah. They think of the
  316. 13:04Shah as having been a kind of Persian
  317. 13:06supremacist who suppressed their
  318. 13:08expression of their non-Persian
  319. 13:11identities. So, they're not really
  320. 13:13yearning for a restoration of the
  321. 13:16so-called Peacock Throne. So, those are
  322. 13:18all the questions we have for today.
  323. 13:20Thank you for watching TechSupport Iran.

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