Happiness and the Meaning of Life — Transcript
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- 0:03happiness and the meaning of life
- 0:06in the varieties of religious experience
- 0:08written in 1902
- 0:10the renowned psychologist william james
- 0:13wrote that the pursuit of happiness is
- 0:16for most people
- 0:17the secret motive of all they do and of
- 0:21all they are willing to endure
- 0:24terry eagleton writes that if the
- 0:26meaning of life
- 0:28it lies in the common goal of human
- 0:30beings then there seems no doubt about
- 0:33what this is
- 0:34what everyone strives for
- 0:37is happiness
- 0:39as aristotle recognizes in his
- 0:41nicomachean ethics it operates as a kind
- 0:44of baseline in human life in the sense
- 0:47that you cannot reasonably ask why we
- 0:51should seek to be happy desiring it just
- 0:54seems to be part of our nature here then
- 0:57is a foundational term of sorts and by
- 1:00that eagleton means that
- 1:03we may arrive
- 1:04at a
- 1:06at an idea where there is no further
- 1:09recourse to defend there is no way to
- 1:12further elaborate on or explain you know
- 1:16why we want to be happy uh it's just
- 1:19that happiness is such a foundational
- 1:22concern of ours that you either get it
- 1:25or you don't get it but the problem as
- 1:28you can maybe anticipate
- 1:31is
- 1:32what is happiness though
- 1:34and this is i think nicely summed up by
- 1:37eric from
- 1:38important cultural critic humanistic
- 1:40psychologist of the uh early and mid
- 1:4420th century in his book the art of
- 1:46being from writes the following that we
- 1:49want to live that we like to live are
- 1:52facts that require
- 1:54no explanation
- 1:56but if we ask how we want to live what
- 1:59we seek from life what makes life
- 2:02meaningful for us
- 2:03then indeed we deal with questions to
- 2:06which people will give many different
- 2:08answers some will say they want love
- 2:12others will choose power other security
- 2:15other sensuous pleasure and comfort
- 2:18others fame but most would probably
- 2:20agree in the statement that what they
- 2:22want is happiness
- 2:25this is also what most philosophers and
- 2:27theologians have declared to be the aim
- 2:30of human striving however if happiness
- 2:33covers such different and mostly
- 2:36mutually exclusive contents as the ones
- 2:38just mentioned it becomes an abstraction
- 2:42and thus rather useless
- 2:44what matters is to examine what the term
- 2:46happiness means for the layman as well
- 2:50as for the philosopher now just to be
- 2:52clear on what frahm is saying here
- 2:54if on the one hand we ask people
- 2:57you know uh
- 3:00why do you like to live we know that you
- 3:02like to live we know that you want to
- 3:03live but why
- 3:05how is it that you
- 3:06want to live what is it that you're
- 3:08living for what is it that makes life
- 3:10meaningful then what people give are a
- 3:13variety of answers they talk about love
- 3:16they may talk about power they may talk
- 3:17about success or simply security about
- 3:21pleasurable indulgence or uh you know
- 3:24grandiose
- 3:25desires to become famous but the thing
- 3:28that's strange
- 3:29is that
- 3:31almost every one of these people will
- 3:33agree
- 3:34that what they want above all is
- 3:36happiness
- 3:37and yet their idea about what
- 3:40constitutes happiness or what what gives
- 3:43rise to happiness
- 3:45seems to be so very different and so
- 3:47this is an important example of where we
- 3:50may be using the same word
- 3:53but we have very different meanings that
- 3:56are being affixed to this concept it's
- 3:59as if two people are both saying that
- 4:02they love each other but one of them
- 4:04means by love care respect uh the other
- 4:08one means
- 4:10maybe something quite different maybe
- 4:12one means loyalty the other doesn't mean
- 4:14loyalty by it and so we have people who
- 4:17think that they understand what the
- 4:19other is saying to them or communicating
- 4:22but until we dig beneath um the word
- 4:26until we ask what does it refer to what
- 4:30are you talking about when you say that
- 4:33the most important thing to you is
- 4:34happiness
- 4:36what is it that happiness as an idea
- 4:39means to you is happiness the same thing
- 4:42as
- 4:43getting what you want is happiness the
- 4:45same thing as having love in your life
- 4:49what does happiness actually mean and
- 4:52that ends up being the crucial question
- 4:55that we are going to explore in this
- 4:58lecture
- 4:59eagleton says something similar to from
- 5:01the writing many decades later
- 5:04eagleton says the problem is that
- 5:06happiness is so desperately
- 5:09indeterminate the idea of happiness
- 5:12seems both vital
- 5:13and vacuous and what he means here again
- 5:16is that you know to get rid of the word
- 5:19happiness
- 5:20would would leave us impoverished
- 5:23we need the word happiness it it does
- 5:26convey
- 5:28something of great importance to us
- 5:31the issue of course is that it's also
- 5:34often used in a vague imprecise
- 5:38and even as from points out
- 5:40contradictory manner and so we can't
- 5:43necessarily get rid of it but we can't
- 5:45necessarily expect that the word alone
- 5:49is going to do all the heavy lifting we
- 5:52needed to do and thus as you would
- 5:54expect from a humanities course critical
- 5:56thinking reflection creative thinking
- 5:59uh self-examination is required in order
- 6:02for us to really get to the bottom of
- 6:05what happiness is about and what its
- 6:08role ought to be in our lives and so
- 6:11eagle thing goes on to say the idea of
- 6:13happiness again seems both vital and
- 6:15vacuous what counts as happiness what if
- 6:18you find it
- 6:20what if you find happiness in
- 6:22terrorizing old ladies someone who is
- 6:24determined to become an actor may spend
- 6:27fruitless hours auditioning while living
- 6:30on a pittance for much of the time she's
- 6:32anxious dispirited and mildly hungry she
- 6:35is not what we would usually call happy
- 6:38her life is not pleasant or enjoyable
- 6:41yet she is so to speak prepared to
- 6:43sacrifice her happiness
- 6:45to her happiness
- 6:47and there
- 6:48the issue is what kind of happiness are
- 6:51we willing to sacrifice to achieve other
- 6:53kinds of happiness
- 6:54what do we mean by happiness and what
- 6:57are we to make of the fact that uh in
- 6:59for some of us
- 7:00happiness is is pleasure and yet there
- 7:04are things that are so important to us
- 7:06and that give us a deep uh we might say
- 7:09sense of happiness which has nothing to
- 7:12do with pleasure are we misunderstanding
- 7:15these experiences are we using one word
- 7:19too loosely where perhaps we need a
- 7:21couple of different distinct concepts
- 7:24how do we make sense of happiness
- 7:28now
- 7:28uh early on it's it's interesting to
- 7:31note here that in uh an essay on man
- 7:34written in 1733 the english poet
- 7:37alexander pope suggested that there
- 7:40really wasn't much uh
- 7:43value in exploring visions of happiness
- 7:47from the past that really were kind of
- 7:50wasting our time uh pope wrote ask of
- 7:53the learned the way
- 7:54the learned are blind this bids to serve
- 7:58and that to shun mankind some place the
- 8:02bliss in action some in ease those call
- 8:05it pleasure and contentment these
- 8:08who thus define it say they more or less
- 8:11than this that happiness
- 8:13is happiness
- 8:15and of course what he's getting at here
- 8:17is
- 8:18everybody is using the same dang word
- 8:21the same idea mouthing the same phrase
- 8:23the same uh the same idea but they don't
- 8:27mean the same thing and at the end of
- 8:29the day it comes down to something as
- 8:31basic as happiness is happiness and we
- 8:34don't really know how to communicate it
- 8:36i communicate about it so we might as
- 8:38well just uh go with it but to this
- 8:41sissel about
- 8:43objects she argues that pope's dismissal
- 8:47of the competing and yes at times
- 8:49discordant contradictory conflicting
- 8:52definitions and visions of happiness is
- 8:55misguided
- 8:56according to bach grappling with these
- 8:58competing visions
- 9:00enables us to better understand the
- 9:03human condition and even give us a
- 9:06better chance at happiness and so this
- 9:09is what bach writes helping us to
- 9:11understand happiness better is hardly
- 9:14the aim of those thinkers who are most
- 9:16certain that their own definition of
- 9:18happiness is the only legitimate one
- 9:22there is no one definition of happiness
- 9:24i suggest that should exclude all others
- 9:28much less be imposed by force or
- 9:30indoctrination we need to look at the
- 9:34different ones together and consider the
- 9:37roles they have played in human lives
- 9:39weighing the evidence they offer and the
- 9:41practical implications for how to live
- 9:44and how best to serve pursue happiness
- 9:47and so i'll just add here that you know
- 9:50you will encounter a variety of visions
- 9:53of what happiness is and i'm going to
- 9:55present some criticisms of some of those
- 9:57visions we're also going to be exploring
- 10:01throughout
- 10:02this particular portion of the course
- 10:04different visions of what might be
- 10:07credible theories of a good life and i
- 10:10certainly am not here to tell you what
- 10:12happiness is definitively or what a good
- 10:15life is definitively
- 10:17however i think that bach has got a
- 10:19really important point here in that
- 10:22even if we don't have some concrete
- 10:26sense of what is objectively
- 10:29and with certainty
- 10:31counted as happiness
- 10:33just by exploring
- 10:36the
- 10:36arguments and the critiques
- 10:39this conception
- 10:41juxtaposed with this conception
- 10:43we are given an opportunity to reflect
- 10:46on which of these visions
- 10:49best
- 10:50sits well with us which of these visions
- 10:53resonates with our own
- 10:56fundamental beliefs and values and which
- 10:59one of them does appear to be
- 11:02problematic which one of the criticisms
- 11:06that you hear
- 11:07does a really good job of pointing out
- 11:10what is wrong
- 11:11with one way of thinking about happiness
- 11:13that you might have been hanging on to
- 11:16or holding on to and so i think that
- 11:18even if we can't get to some you know
- 11:20perfect clarity on what happiness is or
- 11:23which of these conceptions is best at
- 11:26the very least by going through them and
- 11:29hearing out different points of view and
- 11:30working through some thought experiments
- 11:32and doing some reflections we gain some
- 11:35vital clarity that really does much more
- 11:38than a grade or a mere class really does
- 11:41give us some resources
- 11:44to draw on in order to live lives uh of
- 11:48of more happiness
- 11:50whatever happiness happens to be
- 11:52so i want to ask you at this point
- 11:55to take a moment
- 11:57and
- 11:58put some initial thoughts to paper or to
- 12:03uh keyboard so to speak
- 12:05so for
- 12:06part one of what is going to be a
- 12:09multi-part journal entry on happiness
- 12:13i'm going to ask you first of all
- 12:15to
- 12:17reflect on the question and i i'm only
- 12:19asking that you spend
- 12:21maybe let's give it a total of like
- 12:24three to five minutes
- 12:26um what do most people mean by happiness
- 12:30um
- 12:31what do most people you think based on
- 12:34your experience you've probably been
- 12:36around some people at some point in your
- 12:37life
- 12:38what do you think most people
- 12:41understand happiness to mean to be about
- 12:44what is happening when they say they
- 12:45want to be happy or that they are happy
- 12:47or that they're going to be happy
- 12:49what are they referring to what are they
- 12:52pointing to
- 12:53what are they what are they trying to
- 12:55convey
- 12:57what meanings are they
- 12:59are they discussing so again this the
- 13:01very basic question is
- 13:04what do most people mean by happiness uh
- 13:06just pause the video here take
- 13:09three to five minutes uh there's no word
- 13:12count requirement on this uh you know at
- 13:14least a couple of sentences bare minimum
- 13:16uh what do most people mean by happiness
- 13:19as far as you can tell
- 13:21okay and now i want you to take another
- 13:23three minutes three to five minutes
- 13:26again a few sentences bare minimum
- 13:29paragraph would be great
- 13:31but again no word count requirement here
- 13:34i just want you to put your thoughts on
- 13:35paper
- 13:38what is your
- 13:40notion of happiness
- 13:42now again you may not have a super
- 13:43refined idea here
- 13:46there's no point in going to you know
- 13:49a web search or a google search here i
- 13:52mean just put the first thoughts that
- 13:54come to your mind uh on paper on
- 13:57keyboard uh just just write out your
- 14:00thoughts what does happiness mean what
- 14:02is happiness about uh to you and also
- 14:06just add uh out a line or two on
- 14:10do you agree that happiness is of
- 14:13central concern is happiness um one of
- 14:16the most important things to human
- 14:19beings or do you have a different take
- 14:21on the importance of of happiness so
- 14:24again the first question that i asked
- 14:25you to briefly reflect on is what do
- 14:28most people mean by happiness and then
- 14:31now i'm asking you to write what your
- 14:34vision of happiness is what it looks
- 14:36like what it emphasizes and whether or
- 14:38not you agree
- 14:40with the idea that happiness is of
- 14:44central
- 14:45importance in human existence and let me
- 14:48also ask you to go ahead and weigh in on
- 14:52whether or not
- 14:53you think
- 14:54that
- 14:56there are things that are more important
- 14:58than happiness
- 15:00is there anything more important than
- 15:02happiness that's a crucial question give
- 15:05at least your brief two cents on that
- 15:08question
- 15:09is
- 15:10um are there things more important than
- 15:12happiness and if so if you got a couple
- 15:14ideas jot one or two down bullet points
- 15:17are perfectly fine
- 15:19all right so with those ideas in mind
- 15:22just set that aside we'll we'll come
- 15:23back to that in a bit well actually
- 15:25sooner than later
- 15:27i want to take up the question is
- 15:30happiness all that really matters now
- 15:32the last question that i asked you was
- 15:35do you think that there are some things
- 15:37that are even more important than
- 15:39happiness
- 15:40now there are at least quite a few
- 15:42people whose intuition initially says
- 15:46no i mean
- 15:48happiness is kind of the crown jewel of
- 15:50human existence it's
- 15:52it's perhaps
- 15:53the the main thing it's it's what what
- 15:56everything gives everything else
- 15:58significance or meaning
- 16:00is
- 16:01happiness happiness as the end happiness
- 16:04as the goal as ultimate purpose
- 16:07yet there's a very interesting thought
- 16:09experiment
- 16:10by robert nazak called the experience
- 16:12machine
- 16:13which calls that into question
- 16:16robert nasik was an american philosopher
- 16:19and he used the the experience machine
- 16:22to challenge the idea that happiness
- 16:25itself alone was sufficient for a good
- 16:28life his intuition was that we needed
- 16:32more than happiness to lead a truly good
- 16:34life and so he gave us this thought
- 16:36experiment in 1974 he says
- 16:39suppose there were an experience machine
- 16:42that could give you an experience you
- 16:44desired super duper neuropsychologists
- 16:47could stimulate your brain so that you
- 16:50would think and feel you're writing a
- 16:52great novel or making a friend or
- 16:56reading an interesting book
- 16:57all the time you would be floating in a
- 17:00tank with electrodes attached to your
- 17:03brain should you plug into this machine
- 17:06for life
- 17:07pre-programming your life's experience
- 17:10and that's the question
- 17:12now i want to just flush this uh this
- 17:14this thought experiment out just a
- 17:15little bit more
- 17:17and i'm sure you have some cultural
- 17:19encounters with film or graphic uh
- 17:22comics or tv series or books you've read
- 17:25that present a similar
- 17:27sort of scenario
- 17:29but i want you to imagine
- 17:31that
- 17:32if you enter this machine
- 17:34you are going to
- 17:36believe you are important
- 17:40you are going to you are going to feel
- 17:42that you are
- 17:43developing your potential
- 17:46you are going to in this machine
- 17:49the machine will be programmed with
- 17:51everything that's important to you your
- 17:53family members are going to be there
- 17:56you're going to have the most perfect
- 17:58amazing love
- 17:59in your life and if you're worried that
- 18:01you know a perfect experience machine is
- 18:04going to give you a utopia that would
- 18:06actually hinder you don't worry about
- 18:08that the experience machine is going to
- 18:10also feature some ups and downs because
- 18:13as people like to say it's hard to know
- 18:15when you're up if you've never been down
- 18:17it's hard to know what pleasure is if
- 18:18you haven't suffered and the experience
- 18:20machine is going to give you all of that
- 18:22it's been worked out perfectly
- 18:25the only thing is
- 18:27you're guaranteed to succeed now if you
- 18:30stay out here in life you might do
- 18:32wonderful things you might
- 18:35achieve great things have wonderful
- 18:37professional life uh have wonderful
- 18:39relationships with other people but you
- 18:42and i both know that out here in the
- 18:44real world there's always a chance of
- 18:46failure and it's not just a small chance
- 18:49is a pretty big chance and actually our
- 18:51lives even though they often may feature
- 18:54some important success
- 18:56there's lots of failure along the way
- 18:59and the difference is the experience
- 19:02machine is going to look almost exactly
- 19:05like life
- 19:06the only difference is
- 19:08everything is going to work out now
- 19:10there's only one problem with all that
- 19:12in that it's completely fake
- 19:14there's nothing real about the
- 19:16experience machine it's a purely virtual
- 19:19reality there's no actual people the
- 19:22person that you're in love with doesn't
- 19:23actually exist the family members that
- 19:25are part of your life don't actually
- 19:27exist who knows what's going on with
- 19:28them outside in the real world
- 19:31it's just you now if you want to make
- 19:34this thing a little more interesting you
- 19:36say well um you know maybe i'll bring
- 19:40some of my loved ones and we'll plug
- 19:41into the same machine first of all it's
- 19:43not exactly clear that you're all going
- 19:45to get the same virtual experience
- 19:47because maybe your utopia isn't theirs
- 19:50but i'm asking you once again the
- 19:51question and i'm going to have you
- 19:53pause the video here in just a moment to
- 19:56answer this question
- 19:58um
- 19:59would you
- 20:01enter the experience machine imagine
- 20:05that the experience machine is going to
- 20:07simulate adversity and it's going to
- 20:10simulate all
- 20:11of the loved ones necessary to give you
- 20:16a feeling of that kind of complete
- 20:19happiness my question to you
- 20:22is
- 20:23two part one would you enter the
- 20:26experience machine or would you continue
- 20:29to risk it out here in the real world
- 20:31and do do yourself a favor don't get
- 20:34caught up in the fact that this is a
- 20:37thought experiment don't say to yourself
- 20:39oh well it's it's like the humanities
- 20:41and philosophy to give us some
- 20:44silly scenario first of all um and
- 20:48really last of all the purpose of the
- 20:50thought experiment
- 20:52is to help us
- 20:55think more clearly
- 20:57and in order to really test our
- 21:00beliefs and our ideas
- 21:02about happiness we have to go outside of
- 21:05the purely empirical
- 21:07uh world we have to go into the world of
- 21:10the mind and this thought experiment
- 21:13gives you that opportunity to develop
- 21:16some clarity about what you really
- 21:18believe in and also about what you value
- 21:21so again the two-part question is this
- 21:23would you enter the experience machine
- 21:27or continue in the real world and
- 21:29secondly what would be the pros and cons
- 21:31of your decision i mean even if you're
- 21:33going to do it or not do it presumably
- 21:35you can see a few pros and cons on both
- 21:38sides of this question
- 21:40and so why would you make your choice
- 21:43would you enter the experience machine
- 21:45or not and why would you make that
- 21:48choice what would the pros and cons be
- 21:50now for this i want you to spend a solid
- 21:53seven minutes
- 21:55give us you know a decent paragraph
- 21:59this is essentially part three
- 22:02uh though the earlier two questions were
- 22:05really quite short
- 22:06uh so you know this should be you know
- 22:08at least the same length as the first
- 22:11two shorter questions that i asked you
- 22:13so give this a solid uh five to seven
- 22:16minutes would you enter the experience
- 22:18machine why or why not
- 22:21go ahead and pause the video and put
- 22:23your thoughts to paper
- 22:25so sis laba contends that
- 22:28nazic's thought experiment raises key
- 22:31questions about the meaning or nature of
- 22:35happiness
- 22:36bach writes should we care whether the
- 22:38experience making us happy is real
- 22:41and if so
- 22:42real in what sense for example if your
- 22:46experience is a simulation
- 22:48you may be having a physical response to
- 22:52the
- 22:53stimuli that is a part of that
- 22:55stimulation so uh simulation so there is
- 22:58something real
- 22:59that you are uh experiencing uh you
- 23:03might be feeling uh excitement you might
- 23:06be feeling a sense of of pleasure
- 23:09and so if we are to say that the
- 23:12experience machine is not real in a way
- 23:15that the life outside of the experience
- 23:17machine is then what do we mean by that
- 23:20word real what makes something real and
- 23:24something else that's not and just so
- 23:26that you don't think that i'm i'm being
- 23:28too
- 23:30uh superficial with the language here
- 23:32just consider an example like this let's
- 23:34say that there was an original artwork
- 23:37by picasso
- 23:38and
- 23:39that
- 23:41another artist found a way to reproduce
- 23:44it perfectly
- 23:45so perfectly that there is literally no
- 23:49detectable difference between one and
- 23:51the other
- 23:52imagine that there's no technology that
- 23:53will ever be discovered or created that
- 23:56will ever be able to tell these two
- 23:57pieces apart in fact if you mix them up
- 24:00you would never be able to know which
- 24:02one was the original and which one
- 24:04was the secondary
- 24:06work now if i were to ask you which one
- 24:08of these is real
- 24:11you might be a little
- 24:13frustrated or have some difficulty in
- 24:15answering that question because
- 24:17typically you'd say well one is real
- 24:19because
- 24:20it's uh
- 24:22it looks different
- 24:24there's some difference in style
- 24:26and in fact if i asked you which one was
- 24:28real after i mixed them up
- 24:30you would not be able to say which one
- 24:32is real now you might still say look i
- 24:34don't know which one's real because you
- 24:36mix them up but i can tell you the one
- 24:38that was done first was real but i could
- 24:40say well what makes that one real and
- 24:42the other one not i mean i can feel both
- 24:44of them
- 24:45i could see both of them and you might
- 24:47say yeah you can feel them you can see
- 24:49them but what makes one real on the
- 24:51other is about uh which one came first
- 24:55and so in that sense
- 24:57something being real isn't just about
- 24:59how it appears or how we experience it
- 25:02but it also has to do with certain
- 25:04values certain ideas that something
- 25:07coming first
- 25:08has a greater value than something that
- 25:10is reproduced and so that brings us back
- 25:13to sicily box point that the thought
- 25:15experiment
- 25:17um challenges us with figuring out um
- 25:21why one kind of reality so to speak is
- 25:25held in higher regard or more important
- 25:27than the other
- 25:28she also writes that uh nausic's thought
- 25:30experiment uh produces these questions
- 25:33like what role should friendship
- 25:36love or altruism which is to say not
- 25:39just uh you know self-interested action
- 25:42but also
- 25:43a genuine uh primary concern for others
- 25:47have for happiness to be most valuable
- 25:50um what role should friendship love
- 25:52altruism have for happiness to be most
- 25:55valuable and then also is there more to
- 25:57happiness
- 25:59than feeling happy
- 26:01and more to life than happiness in other
- 26:03words are there some experiences are
- 26:06there some
- 26:07parts of human life
- 26:08that are more important than happiness
- 26:11and if so what are they
- 26:13and also uh is that mere feeling of
- 26:17happiness
- 26:18is that what we mean when we talk about
- 26:20happiness or does that feeling need to
- 26:23accompany
- 26:24something
- 26:25real or true
- 26:28in order for that happiness or that
- 26:30feeling of happiness to be
- 26:33valuable
- 26:34so here i'd like to give you just a
- 26:36couple of very brief responses to the
- 26:38thought experiment uh and of course you
- 26:41have your own thoughts there written out
- 26:44robert nozick's perspective on this is
- 26:46that we should say no to the experience
- 26:49machine
- 26:50the activity that yields happiness
- 26:53is important to us
- 26:55not simply the feeling we get when we
- 26:57believe we have done the activity so for
- 27:00nausic it's not just the question is not
- 27:02just does the machine make me feel good
- 27:05the feeling good
- 27:07should follow
- 27:08the actually having actually done
- 27:11something of consequence or importance
- 27:14if we get the feeling good without the
- 27:17actual doing something important
- 27:21and we think that that's all that
- 27:22matters we're actually very confused he
- 27:25thinks about what is most important to
- 27:27us as human beings
- 27:29sisa labach says something similar she
- 27:31says again for herself the answer to the
- 27:33question is no the experience machine
- 27:36she writes eliminates all choice
- 27:38all concerned for a meaningful life all
- 27:41reciprocity as well as the capacity to
- 27:44exercise genuine empathy and the reason
- 27:47for that is everything is programmed
- 27:49everything is designed everything is is
- 27:51set up to ensure
- 27:53that you are perfectly
- 27:57happy if that perfect happiness requires
- 28:00some adversity some trial and error
- 28:02things that look like they aren't
- 28:03working out but then they work out fine
- 28:05we'll work that we'll work that all of
- 28:07that into the system but this is a
- 28:09narcissist paradise because all that
- 28:12matters is what you want um all that
- 28:15matters the whole
- 28:17experience machine world revolves around
- 28:21what you want you get what you want you
- 28:23want it you got it right um and so that
- 28:27on the one hand
- 28:29is pretty appealing to a lot of us if
- 28:31we're really honest about it
- 28:33i mean it's kind of appealing that yeah
- 28:34i mean all right things don't always go
- 28:36our way but it would be nice if they
- 28:38ended up at the end of the day going our
- 28:40way we could all deal with some
- 28:42adversity but when the adversity is
- 28:44non-stop when we end up in failure again
- 28:48i mean we can try fail try again fail
- 28:51again but if every time we try we always
- 28:54up and end up in failure a lot of us can
- 28:56be
- 28:57pretty discouraged just to put it mildly
- 28:59and if you knew that after a few you
- 29:02know experiences of trial on air you'd
- 29:03finally succeed
- 29:05and you can make sure of that by
- 29:07entering the machine at least for some
- 29:09of us that would sound like a pretty
- 29:11good deal now in conversation with
- 29:14students in the classroom i've heard a
- 29:17lot of really interesting ideas and
- 29:19we've really sort of like teased this
- 29:21thing out in lots of different
- 29:23directions uh and i'm sure you have your
- 29:26own interesting thoughts and i tend to
- 29:28find that whereas nausic uh and bach are
- 29:32under the impression that there's kind
- 29:34of quite a few people who are clearly
- 29:37against entering the machine
- 29:39i found that quite a number of students
- 29:41are willing to seriously entertain
- 29:43the thought of going into the machine
- 29:45and there's some really interesting
- 29:46cases to be made what if you're a person
- 29:49living in a terribly unfair
- 29:52uh environment where the the the world
- 29:55is just utterly stacked against you
- 29:58and you know things are not going to
- 30:00turn out well i mean we like to think
- 30:01that if we try hard enough anything is
- 30:03possible but that's not always the case
- 30:06uh clearly some people will try try try
- 30:10and fail fail fail and that may not even
- 30:12be because of their own
- 30:14failure to make an attempt but because
- 30:17the social arrangement is such that
- 30:19they're almost just guaranteed failure
- 30:22and so i've i've heard some very
- 30:23interesting uh arguments uh in favor of
- 30:26entering the machine especially if one
- 30:28is in the position of profound
- 30:31disadvantage and i think it's
- 30:33interesting to hear out those
- 30:34perspectives i for one and this is my
- 30:38take
- 30:39i for one
- 30:40care about which is to say i value uh my
- 30:43children um my partner
- 30:46and as i bond with him and i'll focus on
- 30:48my children in particular
- 30:51and as i bond with them and as i help
- 30:53them in life
- 30:54i get a feeling of happiness
- 30:57a sense of fulfillment i gain
- 31:00a sense of again fulfillment and also
- 31:03even contentment
- 31:05similarly i care about things like my
- 31:08students intellectual development so
- 31:10when i help facilitate you know a really
- 31:12good class discussion
- 31:14or when a student shares that
- 31:17they've gained some significant insight
- 31:20due to
- 31:21the class a reading you know an
- 31:23assignment and so forth i also feel a
- 31:26significant sense of satisfaction which
- 31:29i might describe as i would describe as
- 31:31happiness
- 31:32now the experience machine promises to
- 31:35give me these very same feelings the
- 31:38same experiences happiness fulfillment
- 31:40satisfaction and so on the only
- 31:43difference
- 31:44is that entering the machine
- 31:46uh is going to come at the
- 31:49cost of actually bonding
- 31:52with my children of actually helping
- 31:54those in my life
- 31:56it will come at the cost of actually
- 31:58participating in helping students gain
- 32:01key insights i mean i will have the
- 32:03feeling that all those things are
- 32:05happening
- 32:06but they actually won't be happening it
- 32:08will simply be a program there won't be
- 32:10any actual people at all that i'm
- 32:12interacting with i will simply be
- 32:14interacting with
- 32:16phantasms
- 32:18and for me this is an intolerable cost
- 32:22as wonderful as that feeling that sense
- 32:26of happiness is it is not at least for
- 32:29me
- 32:30my central objective in life
- 32:33rather happiness is the byproduct
- 32:35of achieving or advancing however
- 32:38temporarily
- 32:40our foremost goals in life or honoring
- 32:43our foremost goals in life honoring our
- 32:46values our deepest commitments uh
- 32:48developing our fullest potential and so
- 32:50on it is the byproduct of actually
- 32:54supporting and bonding with the people
- 32:57that i
- 32:58actually care about it's the byproduct
- 33:01of caring about and helping
- 33:04people in my world uh in my world of
- 33:07human interaction and relations and the
- 33:10experience machine gives us happiness
- 33:12by giving us the illusion of achieving
- 33:15our foremost values the illusion of
- 33:18having connected with others the
- 33:20illusion of having written a book
- 33:23saved a life affected others uh achieved
- 33:27great things and so on but for me my
- 33:30foremost values aren't to merely pretend
- 33:34to care about and help others not merely
- 33:37to be
- 33:39fooled into believing that i have helped
- 33:42or um partly uh responsible for
- 33:47a connection uh
- 33:48shared with someone else for me at least
- 33:51my foremost values are to actually
- 33:55be in relation to others to be of
- 33:59service to be in contact and meaningful
- 34:03connection to others and so to the
- 34:06extent that the experience machine
- 34:08deprives me of that opportunity
- 34:11then as wonderful as it would be to have
- 34:14everything work out all the
- 34:15relationships go the right way all of
- 34:18the attempts to do creative things
- 34:22pans out um while it would be very nice
- 34:25to know that all of those efforts will
- 34:28be
- 34:28ultimately rewarded
- 34:30the fact that there will be actually no
- 34:32effort at all that it will all be an
- 34:34illusion and that the actual real world
- 34:37will stand unaffected is to me
- 34:42not really much better
- 34:44than
- 34:45being put to death
- 34:46but i would imagine that at least some
- 34:48of you may think differently and i hope
- 34:50that you will continue to develop those
- 34:52thoughts those ideas uh as you make your
- 34:55way through this section uh and and
- 34:58through the relevant readings uh that
- 35:01we're doing in this module
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