Guy Kawasaki (Author) on Lessons from a Life in Technology | #TNW2019 — Transcript
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- 0:00[Music]
- 0:10sorry I was a little late there I'm a
- 0:14software guy software is always late so
- 0:17I'm welcome my name is Guy Kawasaki and
- 0:20I live in Silicon Valley I am here today
- 0:24to talk to you about a book that I just
- 0:26finished called wiseguy and in this book
- 0:30I tell all these stories of my life life
- 0:33in Silicon Valley a life in technology
- 0:35and it's I'm just so happy to be here I
- 0:40I've been kicking myself for you know
- 0:42why did I wait for 14 times before I
- 0:45came to the next wave this is a
- 0:47fantastic show so I'm very happy to be
- 0:50here did you see that your father can
- 0:53dance did you learn that and yeah did he
- 0:57embarrass you yeah that's what father's
- 1:00do trust me so I'm gonna talk to you
- 1:03today about the lessons from a life in
- 1:05technology and I'm so happy to be here I
- 1:09just I like I have never ever come to a
- 1:13speech on a ferry I have to say it I was
- 1:15a first for me today so this is a
- 1:19picture I'll use to explain a little bit
- 1:21my context this is a picture of the
- 1:23Macintosh division taken in 1984 I'm in
- 1:26the far upper left hand corner you
- 1:28cannot really see me one of the mistakes
- 1:31I made in my career is that I didn't
- 1:33stand in the front of this very famous
- 1:35picture because frankly I had no idea
- 1:37that Apple would be as successful as it
- 1:39has become a little bit about this group
- 1:43of people the Macintosh division it's
- 1:45probably the largest collection of
- 1:47egomaniacs in the history of America and
- 1:49that's saying a lot because as you know
- 1:51America has a lot of egomaniacs you know
- 1:55back then Apple was a successful company
- 1:59already it had the Apple 2 division
- 2:01which was making all the money because
- 2:03they were shipping Apple twos and there
- 2:05was the Macintosh division which was
- 2:07spending all the money because we were
- 2:09still trying to complete the Macintosh
- 2:10but we were such arrogant
- 2:13people I I look back on those days with
- 2:17some chagrin we were such arrogant
- 2:19people we believe that we were hand
- 2:22selected by Steve Jobs so the rules
- 2:24didn't apply to us and I'll give you
- 2:27some stories so the story number one is
- 2:29you're seeing us in front of the
- 2:31Macintosh division building we would not
- 2:33let Apple 2 division employees into that
- 2:37building so if you can imagine working
- 2:39for a company where you work for the
- 2:41same company but you're not allowed into
- 2:44the building of the company and then the
- 2:47Macintosh division people quickly
- 2:48figured out that they were not being
- 2:50allowed into a building they had just
- 2:54paid for and so that pissed them off a
- 2:57great deal and so they came up with this
- 2:59great joke about the Macintosh division
- 3:01which is how many Macintosh division
- 3:03employees does it take to screw in a
- 3:05light bulb
- 3:06the answer is one the Macintosh division
- 3:08employee holds up the light bulb and
- 3:09expects the universe to revolve around
- 3:12him is it where's Boris Boris is is
- 3:20Microsoft a sponsor of this
- 3:24do you want them to be a sponsor you
- 3:28don't care okay so the Microsoft the
- 3:36Microsoft version of this joke is how
- 3:38many Microsoft employees does it take to
- 3:40screw in a light bulb
- 3:41and the answer is none because Bill
- 3:43Gates has declared darkness the new
- 3:45standard so arguably the most important
- 3:50person in this picture is the person
- 3:51kneeling in the front that's Steve Jobs
- 3:53holding a Macintosh 128k and one of the
- 3:57reasons why this photo is so significant
- 3:59is this is that this is the only known
- 4:02instance of Steve Jobs ever getting on
- 4:04his knees for anything in his life
- 4:07whenever people find out that I work for
- 4:10the Macintosh division they of course
- 4:11want a Steve Jobs story all the movies
- 4:14all the reports all the blog posts all
- 4:17the everything you've read books
- 4:19magazines everything you've read and
- 4:21heard and seen about Steve Jobs is true
- 4:23he was very difficult to work for very
- 4:26demanding but just a certifiable genius
- 4:29and visionary I would not be where I am
- 4:32today were not for Steve Jobs and there
- 4:35is nobody in this picture who regrets
- 4:36working for the Macintosh division it
- 4:38was a it was a privilege and an honor
- 4:40so my stop my Steve Jobs story for you
- 4:43so one day I'm in my cubicle and Steve
- 4:46Jobs shows up with someone I had never
- 4:47seen in my life and he says guy what do
- 4:51you think of this company called nowhere
- 4:53KN o waa re it was an educational
- 4:56software company knowledge software and
- 4:58I said well Steve it's a mediocre
- 5:00company with mediocre products the
- 5:02products don't take advantage of the
- 5:03Macintosh graphical user interface it's
- 5:06very simplistic arithmetic two plus two
- 5:08equals four it's not a strategic product
- 5:11it's not a strategic company don't even
- 5:14think about it Steve and then Steve says
- 5:16I want you to meet the CEO of nowhere
- 5:20so welcome to my life that's what
- 5:22working for Steve Jobs was like on to
- 5:27the lessons so I'm 64 years old and it's
- 5:32taken me this long to acquire all this
- 5:34wisdom and this is kind of a sweet spot
- 5:36for me because it took me this long to
- 5:38acquire it and so previously I could not
- 5:41write this book and if I wait any longer
- 5:44I'm gonna forget the wisdom so you're
- 5:46hitting me right as I got it but before
- 5:48I lost it so that's what this book is
- 5:51and I'm gonna give you the top ten
- 5:53wisdoms of my life
- 5:55that I hope that you can take and you
- 5:57can as Steve would say dent the universe
- 6:00with the knowledge that I've acquired
- 6:01okay so the first thing that I figured
- 6:05out as I look back over my life is that
- 6:08you should always change a losing game
- 6:11and this became so true for me as I look
- 6:16back on the life and the decisions of my
- 6:20great-grandparents and my grandparents
- 6:22this is a picture of my family my father
- 6:25is the tallest guy the second guy from
- 6:28the left my my great-grandfather and
- 6:33grandparents they came from Japan to
- 6:36Hawaii they left Japan because of a lack
- 6:39of opportunity because they could not
- 6:42progress anymore there was a lack of
- 6:43jobs so they changed the losing game
- 6:46they left Japan and they came to Hawaii
- 6:49and with hindsight
- 6:51I've now figured out that that's an
- 6:54attitude for life if you are stuck in a
- 6:56place where you cannot progress where
- 6:59the opportunities are not great enough
- 7:01you cannot sit by and just let things
- 7:05happen to you you need to change a
- 7:08losing game second thing that I learned
- 7:11is that education is the absolute key to
- 7:14success you know I travel all over the
- 7:18world and everybody talks to me with
- 7:20Silicon Valley envy you know how do we
- 7:22make Berlin the next Silicon Valley how
- 7:26do we make Austin the next Silicon
- 7:28Valley how do we make everywhere the
- 7:30next Silicon Valley and people think
- 7:32it's about the venture capital
- 7:34funding it's about the amount of
- 7:37infrastructure you know is there
- 7:39cloud-based services are there PR firms
- 7:42are there ad firms are the recruiters
- 7:44and my observation is that the most
- 7:47important thing in an area if you want
- 7:50to succeed in technology is the quality
- 7:52of the engineering education get
- 7:56educated some pictures from my past this
- 7:58is a picture of my elementary school I
- 8:00came from a lower middle-class part of
- 8:02Hawaii Kalihi elementary let's just say
- 8:05that it's not at the top of the rung of
- 8:08the education system in Hawaii and the
- 8:11arc of my life changed because my sixth
- 8:14grade teacher took my parents aside one
- 8:17day and they told my parents you know
- 8:20guy has too much potential for you to
- 8:23leave him in the public school system
- 8:24you need to pull him out of the public
- 8:26school system and put him in a college
- 8:28prep school and if she had not pulled my
- 8:31parents aside and told them that and if
- 8:34they had not listened to her I would not
- 8:36be here today the key to my success then
- 8:38was education and in my education this
- 8:42is a picture of my high school English
- 8:43teacher his name is Harold kibbles and I
- 8:47have an insight for you that as I look
- 8:50back on my life the hardest teachers and
- 8:53the hardest bosses taught me the most I
- 8:57think there's a temptation as you're
- 8:59going through life that you're always
- 9:01looking for the easy route who's the
- 9:03easy boss
- 9:04who's the easy teacher how can I get
- 9:07through life with doing as little as
- 9:09possible but as you reach the end of
- 9:12your life I think you'll come to the
- 9:13realization that the greatest influences
- 9:16on your life will be the toughest
- 9:18teachers and the toughest bosses this
- 9:20English teacher we would write essays he
- 9:25would mark up the essays with all the
- 9:27errors in it and then there was a
- 9:29three-step process
- 9:30you had to write the sentence
- 9:32incorrectly as you did you had to cite
- 9:35the rule of English grammar that you
- 9:37broke and then you had to write the
- 9:39sentence correctly every error required
- 9:43three steps so you very quickly learned
- 9:46English Graham
- 9:47composition is the best teacher I ever
- 9:50had just like Steve Jobs was the best
- 9:53boss that I ever had the next thing that
- 9:56I learned is that motivation is often
- 10:02dressed up in very highfalutin terms you
- 10:06want to dent the universe you want to
- 10:08change the world you want to end global
- 10:12warming you want to foster world peace
- 10:15and I need to follow my sword a little
- 10:18bit I'm going to tell you about what
- 10:20motivated me and my youth and what drove
- 10:22me to where I am today so this is a
- 10:25picture of a bus stop this bus stop is
- 10:27at a high school in Hawaii called Chi
- 10:30Mookie Kaimuki is the lower middle class
- 10:33part of Hawaii right off Waikiki and
- 10:36when I was in high school I was once
- 10:41robbed at this bus stop and that was a
- 10:46very formative experience because when I
- 10:49was robbed at that bus stop I vowed that
- 10:52I would study hard and I would work hard
- 10:54so that I would never have to live in a
- 10:57place where I could be robbed again
- 11:00source of motivation number one this is
- 11:05a picture of a Ferrari Daytona when I
- 11:09was in college my roommate came from a
- 11:12very wealthy family from Phoenix Arizona
- 11:14their backyard was the golf course of
- 11:17the Arizona Biltmore estates so in
- 11:21college you sometimes go home with your
- 11:23buddies so once I went home with him for
- 11:26a weekend and we went to dinner at the
- 11:29Arizona Biltmore at the end of the
- 11:32dinner his mom said guy would you please
- 11:36drive me home in my Ferrari so I got to
- 11:40drive this car and I will tell you that
- 11:44was a life-altering experience to drive
- 11:49a Ferrari I said this is why you need to
- 11:52study guy this is why you need to work
- 11:55hard so while everybody's talking about
- 11:57changing the world all I wanted to do
- 12:00was
- 12:01change the car my third source of
- 12:05motivation this is a picture of me and
- 12:09this is a Jackie Chan now it's not the
- 12:15real Jackie Chan because I have never
- 12:17met the real Jackie Chan
- 12:19this is in the wax museum in Beijing and
- 12:23I hope I don't violate any copyright or
- 12:26trademark by standing with a wax figure
- 12:28but this is not the real Jackie Chan so
- 12:32here's the story so about 15 years ago I
- 12:35owned the Porsche 911 and I stopped at
- 12:39this light on El Camino in Menlo Park
- 12:43I'm in this 911 and I look over to the
- 12:46left and there's a car with four teenage
- 12:49girls in it and they're giggling and
- 12:51they're laughing and they're making eye
- 12:53contact with me and I'm sitting there
- 12:55and I'm thinking guy you have truly
- 12:58arrived teenage girls know who you are
- 13:03it's because of your work at Apple
- 13:05you're writing you're speaking that you
- 13:08founded a hot comm company so I'm
- 13:12sitting there just totally smug the girl
- 13:15in the front seat says roll down the
- 13:17window clearly not a Porsche owner
- 13:20because you don't roll down a Porsche
- 13:21window you press a button but anyway I
- 13:24rolled down my window she sticks her
- 13:28head out and she says to me are you
- 13:31Jackie Chan
- 13:34well you could take that as an insult
- 13:39but one of my motivations in life since
- 13:44that day is that one day Jackie Chan is
- 13:49in his s-class or his Maybach or his
- 13:55Bentley or his Rolls Royce and he's at a
- 13:59stoplight in Hong Kong and he looks to
- 14:02his left and there's a car with four
- 14:04teenage girls giggling smiling making
- 14:07contact with Jackie Chan girl in the
- 14:10front seat
- 14:11roll down your window Jackie Chan rolls
- 14:13down the window teenage girl in the
- 14:15front says to him are you
- 14:17Guy Kawasaki that's the goal my message
- 14:22here is that you know what don't worry
- 14:24about what motivates you just get
- 14:27motivated next lesson you know I meet
- 14:32with a lot of young people and a lot of
- 14:34young people have this very lofty
- 14:36expectation of how do you get that job
- 14:39how do you get in and I'll tell you my
- 14:43experience is that in high tech anyway
- 14:46it doesn't matter how you get into the
- 14:50company get in any way that you can
- 14:54because what matters is not how you got
- 14:57in what matters is what you do once you
- 15:01are in and if you get in as a temporary
- 15:04if you get in because you're delivering
- 15:06lunches if you get in because you're
- 15:09testing code whatever it is it doesn't
- 15:12matter get in any way that you can this
- 15:16is a picture of the first three
- 15:17generations of evangelists in the
- 15:19Macintosh division the guy in the left
- 15:22is Mike Boyd he's the first software
- 15:25evangelist he hired me the reason why I
- 15:30got hired at Apple is not because of my
- 15:33stellar work experience nor my stellar
- 15:35educational background PhD in computer
- 15:38science from Carnegie Mellon anything
- 15:40like that I got hired at Apple because
- 15:43Mike Boyd was my college
- 15:47mate it's his mother who had the Ferrari
- 15:51Daytona the only reason why I got hired
- 15:55at Apple was nepotism
- 15:58it was pure and simple nepotism but you
- 16:03know what that's how I got in why I
- 16:06succeeded is for very different reasons
- 16:09so my message to you as you're facing
- 16:12employment opportunities thinking of
- 16:14starting companies thinking of hiring
- 16:16people don't worry about how people get
- 16:19in just worry about what they do once
- 16:22they're in you know I think the current
- 16:24HR wisdom is that you always look at
- 16:26people's educational background and work
- 16:28experience for relevance I'm not saying
- 16:32you should ignore that but I think you
- 16:33should add a third variable when you are
- 16:35hiring or being hired which is do you
- 16:39love what the company is doing because
- 16:42when I saw Macintosh for the first time
- 16:45I was coming from the jewelry business I
- 16:47literally were slepping golden diamonds
- 16:50around the United States but when I saw
- 16:54Macintosh for that first time when I saw
- 16:57Mac Paint and Mac right for me it was a
- 17:00religious experience the clouds parted
- 17:03angel started to sing and the reason why
- 17:08I succeeded in the Macintosh division is
- 17:09because I love the Macintosh so I
- 17:12succeeded despite the lack of the right
- 17:15education and the like the right work
- 17:18experience I will also tell you that
- 17:21I've come to believe the people with the
- 17:23perfect background education and work if
- 17:26they don't love what you do it doesn't
- 17:29matter if they have the perfect
- 17:31background so the lack of the perfect
- 17:34background can still make you successful
- 17:37the presence of the perfect background
- 17:39can still make you fail just get in next
- 17:44lesson is the lesson in life that will
- 17:48help you have a happy life which is
- 17:51don't look for problems where they don't
- 17:55exist this is a picture of me standing
- 17:58in front of a house on Union Street and
- 18:01an Francisco you see that hedge
- 18:05so about 16 years ago I lived in this
- 18:08house this is a very nice house in a
- 18:11very nice part of San Francisco Union
- 18:14Street dead ends into the Presidio so
- 18:16it's a it's a part of San Francisco
- 18:18called Cow Hollow one of the nicest
- 18:21parts of San Francisco so one day I was
- 18:24outside of my house trimming this bogan
- 18:26Velia hedge trimming it all right
- 18:29snipping the branches this older white
- 18:32woman comes up to me and says do you do
- 18:35lawns also and I said to her so I'm
- 18:41japanese-americans so you figure I'm
- 18:43japanese-american I must be the Yard Man
- 18:45right she goes no no no no it's not that
- 18:48it's just you were doing such a great
- 18:50job at trimming the hedge I wanted to
- 18:53ask you if you also do lawns so right
- 18:57there there's some wisdom the wisdom
- 18:59about racial profiling but wait it gets
- 19:02better
- 19:03two weeks later my father comes and
- 19:06visits me I'm third-generation
- 19:09japanese-american he's second served in
- 19:12the US Army you know the whole thing and
- 19:14I tell him this story and I fully expect
- 19:18him to just go off on her right how dare
- 19:22she ask you you're the Yard Man does she
- 19:27not realize that you went to Stanford
- 19:30that you worked for Apple that you've
- 19:33written five books but just because
- 19:36you're Japanese she thinks you're the
- 19:38Yard Man he did not say that at all what
- 19:44he said to me was son Japanese guy
- 19:48cutting a hedge on Union Street
- 19:52statistically the probability was that
- 19:56you were the Yard Man so shut up and
- 20:01don't look for problems where they don't
- 20:03exist take the high road give people the
- 20:07benefit of the doubt and since that day
- 20:10it's been very hard to a
- 20:13and me don't look for problems where
- 20:16they don't exist
- 20:17next thing I learned is about grinding
- 20:20it out if there is a secret to my
- 20:24success it has been my willingness to
- 20:27grind it out I love to work I can work
- 20:31anywhere at any time
- 20:33I just need an internet connection this
- 20:36is a picture of a hoodie this hoodie was
- 20:39given to the Macintosh division and it
- 20:42commemorated a spirit and the Spirit was
- 20:45that we were on a mission a mission to
- 20:48increase people's creativity and
- 20:50productivity so in 1982 and 1983
- 20:55we were working 90 hours a week and we
- 20:59were loving it because we weren't trying
- 21:03to simply ship a new personal computer
- 21:06we were trying to change the world we
- 21:09were trying to prevent totalitarianism
- 21:11we're trying to prevent a George
- 21:13Orwellian 1984 world so it wasn't about
- 21:17shipping another computer it was about
- 21:19changing the world and we were doing
- 21:22this 90 hours a week and loving it we
- 21:25were grinding it out next piece of
- 21:29wisdom is to remember your friends this
- 21:33is a picture of me with Marc Benioff
- 21:36Marc Benioff is the founder of
- 21:39salesforce.com
- 21:40I gave Marc Benioff his first job ever
- 21:44in his career I gave him a job as a
- 21:48summer intern when I was at Apple and he
- 21:51was at USC he spent the summer writing
- 21:55assembly language program examples for
- 21:57the Macintosh division fast forward 30
- 22:00years he is not the intern he is now the
- 22:04man salesforce.com donated hundreds of
- 22:09millions of dollars to medical research
- 22:11and the story I want to tell you is this
- 22:16so a few years ago the son of Mike boy
- 22:21the guy who hired me at Apple mother who
- 22:24owns the Ferrari
- 22:25the first software evangelist at
- 22:27Mackintosh Mike boys his son wanted an
- 22:30interview at Salesforce I sent an email
- 22:33to mark I said mark do you remember Mike
- 22:35Boyd she now has a son who just
- 22:36graduated from college
- 22:38he was my boss when I gave you your job
- 22:41at Apple he wants an interview at
- 22:44Salesforce and Marc Benioff bless his
- 22:47heart in less than an hour made that
- 22:49interview happen fast word another
- 22:52couple years my son graduates my son
- 22:55says he wants an interview at
- 22:57salesforce.com sends an email to Marc
- 23:01Benioff again bless his heart
- 23:03in less than an hour my son had an
- 23:06interview at Salesforce and let me tell
- 23:08you something this was really meaningful
- 23:10to me because 30 years earlier
- 23:14I gave him an internship and he never
- 23:16ever forgot that there are lots of
- 23:18people in Silicon Valley who would have
- 23:20not answered that email much less got
- 23:23than our son's interviews and eventually
- 23:26jobs at salesforce.com remember your
- 23:29friends next thing I learned you know
- 23:33lots of people ask me so what is the key
- 23:35to evangelism guy you've evangelize
- 23:38McIntosh now you're evangelizing canva
- 23:41you know what is the key so I want to
- 23:44explain a concept called guys golden
- 23:46touch
- 23:47guys golden touch is not whatever I
- 23:50touch turns to gold
- 23:52guys golden touch is whatever is gold
- 23:55guy touches this is a picture of the
- 24:01moment that I met the cofounders of
- 24:03canva how many of you use canva in this
- 24:05row yeah so canvas is an online graphics
- 24:08design service and what it enables you
- 24:10to do is create great graphics every one
- 24:12of you can create great graphics a nice
- 24:15way to think of canva is that you know
- 24:17in the time it takes you to boot
- 24:19Photoshop you could finish a graphic in
- 24:22canva so when people ask me so what's
- 24:28the key to evangelism is it an outgoing
- 24:30personality is it the ability to shock
- 24:33and jive and network is it the ability
- 24:36to do a great demo is
- 24:38persistence what is the key to
- 24:39evangelism the key to evangelism is to
- 24:44evangelize great stuff because it's very
- 24:49easy to evangelize great stuff it is
- 24:52very hard to evangelize crap the key to
- 24:57evangelism is to find create align
- 25:01yourself with great stuff evangelism
- 25:04comes from Greek words meaning bringing
- 25:07the good news so what an evangelist does
- 25:10is bring the good news I brought the
- 25:13good news of McIntosh it makes people
- 25:15more creative and productive I am
- 25:16bringing the news of canva it makes
- 25:18everybody into a graphic designer
- 25:21so if you want to evangelize something
- 25:23it starts with that something has to be
- 25:26good news that it empowers people it
- 25:29makes people's lives better that it
- 25:30changes the world next thing that I
- 25:33learned is you have to continue to learn
- 25:37you know when I was younger I thought oh
- 25:39so learning stops when you get your
- 25:41degree you know you you you get your
- 25:43degree you you march down in the
- 25:45commencement ceremony and bada bing bada
- 25:47bang learning is over now it's just
- 25:50reaping and it's making money for the
- 25:52rest of your life and I found that to be
- 25:55absolutely untrue if you want to
- 25:58optimize your life you have to continue
- 26:01to learn I like to use sports examples
- 26:03so this is me about two years ago and
- 26:08let's just say if you know anything
- 26:10about surfing this is not the ideal
- 26:12position so at the age of 62 I decided
- 26:18to take up surfing that is roughly 58
- 26:21years too late and I took up surfing
- 26:25because my daughter took up surfing this
- 26:28is a picture of me surfing with my
- 26:29daughter and the message here is that
- 26:33you know what surfing is probably the
- 26:36hardest thing I've ever tried to learn
- 26:38it is way too late to do it at 62 but
- 26:42you know what it can be done the message
- 26:46is continue to learn
- 26:49learning is a process
- 26:51it is not an event continue to learn
- 26:54next thing I learned little peace the
- 26:57wisdom is in life you have to do what it
- 27:00takes I'll tell you an example so I once
- 27:04had a book called enchantment and I ran
- 27:08a crowdsource
- 27:09cover contest and so I went on social
- 27:14media and I told people I'm running a
- 27:16cover contest submit your cover design
- 27:19to me and I'm going to pick one and pay
- 27:22$1,000 for the cover and what happened
- 27:26was very interesting so a lot of
- 27:28professional graphic artists complained
- 27:30that I was exploiting their industry
- 27:34because what I was essentially doing was
- 27:36asking hundreds and hundreds of graphic
- 27:39designers to create covers submit them
- 27:42to me and I would only pay one so one
- 27:45person would be adequately rewarded
- 27:46everybody else I screwed
- 27:49that's not how I look at it I looked at
- 27:52it like I am opening it up for true
- 27:55meritocracy I don't care if you work for
- 27:57a large firm I don't care if you have a
- 27:59degree in graphic design I just want a
- 28:01great cover anybody can enter and so my
- 28:05attitude was if you want to succeed in
- 28:07life you do what it takes if if you can
- 28:11enter a graphic design contest to show
- 28:14off your talent you enter you know I
- 28:16speak 50 to 75 times a year many of my
- 28:19speeches I give for free but the more
- 28:23you speak the more you speak because
- 28:26someone here for example may say oh I
- 28:29heard guy talk at tnw 2019 he would be
- 28:34very good for my spouse's company's
- 28:37meeting and so speakers give away
- 28:40speeches for free hackers and enter
- 28:43hackathons and so my message here is
- 28:47that it is not about how you succeeded
- 28:50you do what it takes and this is an
- 28:53example this is a picture of me with
- 28:56Richard Branson Richard and I were in
- 29:00Moscow together to speak at a conference
- 29:03Richard comes into the
- 29:05speaker ready room and he says to me guy
- 29:07do you fly on virgin and I said Richard
- 29:12I'm United Airlines Global Service I
- 29:15don't know how you get to be global
- 29:18service I don't want to jeopardize my
- 29:20global service status because if you're
- 29:23United global service even United
- 29:25becomes a tolerable airline and when I
- 29:30said this this is what he did he got
- 29:34down on his knees and he started
- 29:37polishing my shoes
- 29:40other than that picture I've never seen
- 29:43Steve Jobs get down on his knees for
- 29:46anybody Richard Branson billionaire
- 29:49owner of an island wind surfs with
- 29:51Barack Obama night gets down on his
- 29:55knees to get another passenger for
- 29:57Virgin this is the moment I started
- 30:00flying on Virgin America and the lesson
- 30:05here is that you know what if Richard
- 30:07Branson can get on his knees and do what
- 30:09it takes all of us can get on our knees
- 30:11and do what it takes now you may be
- 30:14wondering why is this picture so lousy
- 30:16and I have to say I completely agree
- 30:21with you so what happened was I didn't
- 30:24exactly expect Richard to get on his
- 30:27knees and start polishing my shoes so
- 30:29when he did this I handed my camera to
- 30:32someone in the room I said take this
- 30:34picture this is such a great moment and
- 30:36the camera was set to manual focus at
- 30:39that point and so this person just
- 30:41picked up the camera and snapped the
- 30:42picture and one of my big regrets is
- 30:44that I don't have an InFocus version of
- 30:47this picture I may have to recreate this
- 30:49picture one day the point is do what it
- 30:52takes and this is my last piece of
- 30:55wisdom for you this is not something
- 30:57about politics or drugs okay
- 31:00I'm not suggesting you get high and to
- 31:03the right in that sense at all I guess I
- 31:08mean Amsterdam though so maybe the get
- 31:09high part is okay
- 31:11so I want to give you what I consider
- 31:15the only graph you need to chart your
- 31:20life to chart how you create a product
- 31:23how you create a service how you
- 31:25position yourself as an employer as an
- 31:29employee how you find dates how you get
- 31:33happily married how you do everything in
- 31:35life can be explained with this one
- 31:37chart in this chart there are two axes
- 31:41the vertical axis measures your degree
- 31:44of uniqueness your differentiation the
- 31:46horizontal axis measures the value of
- 31:49what you bring to the party there are
- 31:52four corners in this 2x2 matrix some big
- 31:55consulting firms would charge you five
- 31:57million dollars to tell you you need to
- 31:59be in the upper right hand corner you're
- 32:01getting it free here today at tmw 2019
- 32:04so let us go through all the corners in
- 32:07the bottom right corner we have the
- 32:09corner where you do something useful
- 32:11valuable you're Michael Dell right you
- 32:14make Dell computers but you don't want a
- 32:16Dell computers fundamentally windows on
- 32:19hardware that any other manufacturer
- 32:22could buy so yes it's valuable but it is
- 32:26not unique in that corner you always
- 32:28have to compete on price same operating
- 32:32system same hardware you have to compete
- 32:35on price in the upper left hand corner
- 32:38that's the corner where you are truly
- 32:40unique completely differentiated only do
- 32:44you do what's done in that corner you
- 32:46own a market that doesn't exist in that
- 32:51corner you are just playing stupid in
- 32:54the bottom left corner you are stupid
- 32:57and it's crowded where you're stupid
- 32:59because in that corner you have created
- 33:02something that's not valuable it's
- 33:03stupid people like me in Silicon Valley
- 33:05have fun that other stupid companies
- 33:07that do the same stupid non valuable
- 33:09thing a great example of this is pets
- 33:13calm buying dog food online buying dog
- 33:17food online why was it not valuable yes
- 33:20dog food was cheaper online
- 33:22because there's no retailer but you have
- 33:25to add back shipping and handling so
- 33:27what you discounted because there's no
- 33:29retailer you had to add back with
- 33:31shipping and handling and then somebody
- 33:33had to be at home when the dead cow and
- 33:36the can was delivered to your house so
- 33:38it was less convenient just as expensive
- 33:40not valuable why was it not unique well
- 33:44many of you are entrepreneurs so I'm
- 33:46going to give you a lesson in pitching
- 33:47this is something you should never do
- 33:50what I'm about to do
- 33:52never ever do 300 million Americans
- 33:56one in four owns a dog 75 million owned
- 34:00dogs in America each dog eats two cans
- 34:04of dog food per day and dogs eat every
- 34:08day we are not talking b2b here we're
- 34:11talking b2c dogs eat every day more
- 34:14accurately b2d dogs eat every day
- 34:18so we take a hundred and fifty million
- 34:22cans of dog food and with my Rockstar
- 34:24co-founder how hard could it be to get
- 34:27one percent of that market that's one
- 34:29and a half million cans of dog food per
- 34:31day 365 days a year we're talking 5 or
- 34:35600 million cans of dog food per year
- 34:40conservatively speaking worst case and
- 34:43because of that pitch there was pets
- 34:45calm my pets calm I pets calm last
- 34:48minute pets.com discount pets calm there
- 34:51are 10 ways to buy dog food online less
- 34:54convenient just as expensive the corner
- 34:58that you want to be in whether you're
- 34:59designing a product a service position
- 35:01yourself in life in dating whatever it
- 35:04is is that iPod corner in the iPod
- 35:07Corner
- 35:08you are valuable and you are unique why
- 35:11was iPod valuable and unique because at
- 35:14the time iPod had a user interface that
- 35:16a mere mortal could operate you could
- 35:19get a wide selection of music from the
- 35:21six largest music publishers it was
- 35:24legal and it was $0.99 those factors
- 35:30made iPod not only valuable but also
- 35:34unique and
- 35:35explains the success of iPod so as you
- 35:39create your products you create your
- 35:40servers as you position yourself as an
- 35:43employer or an employee it's all about
- 35:46getting high and to the right
- 35:49how are you valuable and how are unique
- 35:53if you are valuable but not unique you
- 35:56will always have to compete on price if
- 35:58you are unique but not valuable you are
- 36:02just playing stupid if you're not unique
- 36:04and not valuable you are stupid and you
- 36:07are not alone the corner you want to be
- 36:09in is the unique and valuable corner
- 36:12that's where history's made margins made
- 36:16profits made money's made that's where
- 36:20you dent the universe and this is the
- 36:24collection of my top ten wisdoms in a
- 36:28life of technology thank you very much
- 36:30thank you thank you
- 36:37where's Boris here thank you
- 36:46that was an expiring talk I'm proud
- 36:48you've been a childhood icon for me and
- 36:52III think it's great that we have the
- 36:5414th edition and that we could open with
- 36:56Jackie Chan so there's just a few
- 36:59questions I want to ask and the first
- 37:01one is the theme of the conference and
- 37:04the tagline for our company is the heart
- 37:05of tech I always thought that the mecca
- 37:09tuition wasn't really about the
- 37:10technology but much more about the
- 37:12humanity can you say something about
- 37:14that so yeah I think that well certainly
- 37:17Apple proves this that fundamentally
- 37:20it's about the emotion it is about the
- 37:23reaction that I don't think people wake
- 37:26up in the morning saying I want to buy
- 37:27tech I think they want music they want
- 37:30entertainment they want productivity
- 37:32they want beauty and so I think your
- 37:34theme fits right in that you have to
- 37:38separate the features of a technology
- 37:40from the benefits of the technology and
- 37:42it's all about the benefits of
- 37:44Technology yeah yeah and when you left
- 37:46Apple and someone once asked you know
- 37:49like why did you leave Apple and then
- 37:51you said because I started to believe my
- 37:52own yes which I thought was a
- 37:54beautiful quote from someone as
- 37:56influential as that I can you talk about
- 37:57that self reflection a little bit for
- 37:59the people in the room like me or might
- 38:02be able might start to believe their own
- 38:04well yeah so I left Apple twice
- 38:07in my career both times to start
- 38:10companies and so you're part of being an
- 38:12entrepreneur is you have to be somewhat
- 38:15delusional you have to believe in your
- 38:17own because if you didn't
- 38:19believe in your how can you
- 38:20possibly get anybody else to believe in
- 38:22your so I think it's necessary
- 38:26though not necessarily sufficient
- 38:28quality of entrepreneurship that you do
- 38:31have to believe your and but
- 38:34then you have to make it true and I
- 38:37think that's one of the keys to the
- 38:39success of Silicon Valley is that we
- 38:42believe our own and in many
- 38:45cases we can also make the come
- 38:47true
- 38:47all right last question yes and of
- 38:50course your you're known as a marketeer
- 38:51you you popular lies the Evangelist
- 38:54honest but then now you're a writer like
- 38:57what's next is the what's next for me
- 39:00yeah so as I told you I'm 64 years old I
- 39:04have four children my children are let's
- 39:08see 25 23 17 and 13 so the 25 and 23 are
- 39:13out we had two IPOs if you will so the
- 39:1717 and 13 who's gonna go surfing with
- 39:21you the 17 and 13 are both living with
- 39:23us still and I will tell you that I have
- 39:28come to the conclusion that I need to
- 39:30spend as much time as I can with them
- 39:32so I'm not interested in starting any
- 39:34more companies doing anything more like
- 39:36that really I just want to spend time
- 39:39with my kids and surf that's all I
- 39:42really want to do all right let's go sir
- 39:44thank you very much thank you great
- 39:46thank you
- 39:50[Music]
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