Grok Bot vs Muse vs Dots vs Claude Duet vs Hermes: My Honest Tier List — Transcript
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- 0:00Grockbot, dots, Hermes agent, Mem and
- 0:03now even Claude Duet. It's obvious every
- 0:06single AI lab right now is trying to
- 0:08create a personal agent that will
- 0:09promise to save you more money, get more
- 0:11work done, or everything in between. The
- 0:13problem is they kind of all do the same
- 0:16thing and they also promise the same
- 0:18thing. So, how do you know which ones to
- 0:19go with? And a lot of people have been
- 0:21feeling very overwhelmed and having what
- 0:23they call personal agent fatigue,
- 0:25including myself. That being said, there
- 0:27are two agents that for me have become
- 0:29the frontrunners. They're agents that I
- 0:31use every single day. I think they're
- 0:32going to become a permanent part of my
- 0:34stack and I'm going to explain how to
- 0:35use them and also show the pros and cons
- 0:37between each of these agents. So, the
- 0:39first one that I wanted to talk about is
- 0:41Hermes agent. And lately Hermes agent
- 0:45has been kind of getting a bad rap on
- 0:47Twitter and on any kind of other social
- 0:49media platform, which is kind of a shame
- 0:51because originally Open Claw came out in
- 0:54the beginning of the year and it was
- 0:55pretty groundbreaking what Peter
- 0:57Steinberger had made, but
- 0:59to get any from meaningful work done was
- 1:01pretty much impossible with it. It was
- 1:02breaking down all the time.
- 1:05All you were spending so much time
- 1:07tinkering with it trying to get it to
- 1:08work. So, it really didn't add any
- 1:10productivity. But, then Hermes entered
- 1:12the picture. And Hermes kind of worked
- 1:15outside of the box. You weren't sitting
- 1:16there tinkering with it. You weren't
- 1:18trying to over-customize it. Now, it is
- 1:20open source, so you can still do all
- 1:22those things, but the big benefit was it
- 1:24was just much better put together. It
- 1:26had a real team behind it and it was a
- 1:28first kind of personal agent that a lot
- 1:30of people were using to get actual
- 1:31productive meaningful work done. I used
- 1:33it in Slack. My entire team was able to
- 1:35interact with my Hermes agents. I had
- 1:37Hermes agents that could that would do
- 1:39in revenue management. I had Hermes
- 1:41agents that were like turning off pool
- 1:43heating,
- 1:44um, working on guest communications. We
- 1:46had so many different things that we
- 1:48were running and still to this day
- 1:49continue to run. So, overall it was a
- 1:52great experience. Now, with all that
- 1:54said, there were some real problems with
- 1:56Hermes agent as well. And the main one
- 1:58was it kind of started to get the open
- 2:00claw issue, which was it was taking out
- 2:03too much time tinkering with maintaining
- 2:05it. It started to have updates where all
- 2:07of a sudden things stopped working. I
- 2:09mean, the amount of times
- 2:11that I had an update or I would change
- 2:13something about it and all of a sudden I
- 2:14would get a DM from someone in my team,
- 2:16"Hey, such and such agent isn't working
- 2:18anymore." I mean, it was enough to drive
- 2:19me mad. And don't get me wrong, I'm
- 2:21still using them, but I am probably
- 2:23going to start transitioning a lot of
- 2:24the workload away from there unless
- 2:26something changes really soon. The next
- 2:28one, I use it on a daily basis. It is
- 2:30called Grok Bot. A lot of people I'm
- 2:31sure have heard about it. It is by
- 2:33Elon's company, SpaceXSI. Yes, that is
- 2:36the name of the company now. And what I
- 2:37really love about it is you have a
- 2:39separate bot for every single job. So,
- 2:42this again, Hermes does a lot of that,
- 2:44too. I want to be clear on that. But a
- 2:45lot of the personal agents these days,
- 2:47particularly, what they'll do is they'll
- 2:49have one agent, you talk to it, and
- 2:51sometimes it can spin off different
- 2:53threads, sometimes it can spin off
- 2:54different channels, but ultimately
- 2:55everything happens through that one
- 2:56thread. For me, I don't personally
- 2:58always love that because I feel like
- 3:00when you're talking about different
- 3:01topics at once things get a little bit
- 3:02convoluted and confusing.
- 3:04But with Grok Bot, um
- 3:06every single agent can have its own
- 3:08role, its own job. So, I'll give you an
- 3:10example. I have Grok Bots that only work
- 3:12on my Meta Ads. And so, anytime I talk
- 3:14about Meta Ads for one particular
- 3:16company, I'm talking to that bot.
- 3:18Or it could be that, um your Google Ads
- 3:20manager. It could be a project manager.
- 3:24Ultimately, you can define the roles
- 3:26what you want, but for me, it does help
- 3:28a lot to segment these bots for very,
- 3:31very specific roles and use cases. And I
- 3:33know when that topic comes up, boom, I'm
- 3:36going to talk to that bot. I will say
- 3:38this as well, Grok, if you did want to
- 3:40talk to this one agent on one thread,
- 3:43Grok Bot does have a chief of staff bot,
- 3:45and it's the most proactive of all the
- 3:47bots. Uh I think they actually
- 3:48programmed it that way as well. And so,
- 3:51it can then delegate work out to all the
- 3:53other bots. So, if you did want to just
- 3:55talk to one bot and have one {quote} bot
- 3:57thread, you can still do that in Grok
- 3:59Bot as well. Again, it's not my personal
- 4:01way to uh favorite to work for them, but
- 4:03it it is possible. And Grok Bot has some
- 4:06other cool features. It has its own
- 4:07mailbox. It has great integrations with
- 4:09one password where like it will ask you
- 4:11for an authorization when it needs
- 4:12something, but in a way done that was
- 4:14better than all the other bots.
- 4:16Has a ton of connectors obviously right
- 4:18now, too. And two of the coolest
- 4:19features is Grok Bot is also going to be
- 4:21able to call on your behalf. So, whether
- 4:23you want to make a reservation at a
- 4:24restaurant, or in my case, if I have to
- 4:26call, let's say I have to change my
- 4:29internet plan. I don't want to be on
- 4:30hold for 45 minutes. My Grok Bot can go
- 4:32ahead and do that and can dial me in
- 4:34when somebody actually answers the
- 4:35phone.
- 4:36And then the last one, and this might be
- 4:38my favorite one. I drive a Tesla Model
- 4:40Y. My Grok Bot can directly connect to
- 4:43my Tesla. The same Grok Bot that's in my
- 4:45app, and I can then delegate work to it.
- 4:47I can ask about certain emails. I can
- 4:49ask about some work that workflows that
- 4:50I've going on. It's the same Grok Bot.
- 4:52So, if you were doing your full
- 4:54self-driving, which again, if you don't
- 4:55have a Tesla and you don't have full
- 4:56self-driving, highly recommend it. Big
- 4:58fan. You can just go ahead and do that
- 5:00full self-driving and still be able to
- 5:02work fully while you're in the car,
- 5:03which is a really really cool feature.
- 5:05Now, the next one is an interesting one.
- 5:07So, Meta was really behind on the AI
- 5:10race for a long time, and then all of a
- 5:13sudden they came out with Muse uh by
- 5:15Meta. And when it came out, I wasn't
- 5:17actually that enthused about it. It
- 5:19didn't seem like it had anything that
- 5:21Grok Bot or Hermes couldn't do. It
- 5:23didn't really seem like Meta's models
- 5:25were even good enough to try it. But
- 5:27then when I actually did try it, I was
- 5:29pleasantly surprised. The coolest thing
- 5:31about it is it was at least at the time
- 5:34the fastest agent by a mile. I mean, it
- 5:36was lightning fast. I don't know what
- 5:38Meta did. I don't know how much compute
- 5:39they have to do that, but it was
- 5:41lightning fast, and it got things done
- 5:43really fast, too. And the second thing
- 5:45is Muse has a really really cool UI and
- 5:47UX experience. Like even like the avatar
- 5:50for your bot is like this cute little
- 5:52furry creature. I don't know if you know
- 5:55what you would call it. For me, I named
- 5:56my bot Alfred after The Dark Knight, and
- 5:58so I gave him like the Alfred butler
- 6:00look, and you can make him look like
- 6:02that. Not awfully obviously not Michael
- 6:04Caine,
- 6:05but he can look like a British butler
- 6:07and actually like be taking actions and
- 6:09everything. It's a lot of fun to look
- 6:10at. Um and again, highly recommend you
- 6:12trying it just for that reason alone. It
- 6:14also just feels really easy to use for a
- 6:16beginner. Like Muse is the first agent
- 6:19that I had my wife use. She doesn't know
- 6:21anything about AI. She barely has ever
- 6:23owned a computer. And a lot of times she
- 6:25would ask me throughout the day random
- 6:27questions that like realistically a
- 6:29Google search could solve. And so
- 6:31eventually I installed the Muse agent
- 6:32for her. She absolutely loves it now.
- 6:34She calls it I think Colin or something
- 6:36like that. And a lot of the random
- 6:38questions that she would either have to
- 6:39Google before or ask me, especially when
- 6:41I'm working, that can get really
- 6:43difficult sometimes, um she ended up
- 6:45just asking the Muse agent now. And it's
- 6:46done a lot of really cool things for
- 6:48her. I mean, we just recently planned
- 6:50our daughter's birthday party, so it
- 6:51sent out all the RSVPs. Um it gave
- 6:54recommendations of where we should host
- 6:55the party. It also like flagged ahead of
- 6:58time that it was supposed to rain that
- 6:59day, so our original outdoor plan we
- 7:01ended up moving indoors. And Muse
- 7:03proactively told her that. And it also
- 7:05has like a really cool newsfeed. So like
- 7:08everybody obviously is against
- 7:09doomscrolling, but you can curate a
- 7:11newsfeed for your Muse that you can just
- 7:13go ahead and look at it. It's
- 7:14aesthetically really nice to uh pleasing
- 7:15to look at. It has a goals tab. It even
- 7:18has an ideas tab. So if you don't even
- 7:19know what to do with your Muse, it has
- 7:21really fun ideas of things that you
- 7:22could do with it. And it can't be
- 7:24minimized that Meta has a ton of
- 7:26distribution. It has a ton of data. So
- 7:28out of all the agents, it feels the most
- 7:31I don't know if human is the word when
- 7:34speaking to it, but it feels the most
- 7:35easy to talk to. Like you're just
- 7:37talking to a friend or something like
- 7:38that. Now, my litmus test for that is
- 7:40every single personal agent I've ever
- 7:42had, there's this line in The Dark
- 7:44Knight where um
- 7:46Bruce Wayne says to Alfred, "People are
- 7:48dying, Alfred. What would you have me
- 7:49do?" And then Alfred says, "Endure,
- 7:51Master Wayne." And I've used that to
- 7:53every single one of my agents. And
- 7:55usually they would say, "Oh my god, you
- 7:56should call 911 if somebody is dying."
- 7:58But Muse was the first agent that
- 8:00literally said the line back, "Endure,
- 8:02Master Wayne." And I was like, "Wow,
- 8:05this is AGI." No, it's not actually AGI,
- 8:08but I thought it was a cool touch that
- 8:09it had that kind of awareness. Meta is
- 8:11also going to be releasing a lot of
- 8:12physical devices, which are going to
- 8:13have awesome integrations with Muse.
- 8:15Obviously, the the Meta Ray-Bans, they
- 8:17have like the Muse charm that they're
- 8:19releasing. I'm sure there's going to be
- 8:21a lot of other stuff, and it's going to
- 8:22have direct integrations with Muse. So,
- 8:24this will be your technically your 24/7
- 8:26always-on personal assistant. I'm sure
- 8:28the other ones are going to be doing
- 8:29similar things. Obviously, Grok bot did
- 8:30it with Tesla. But again, Meta has a
- 8:33distribution, has the compute, so I
- 8:35would not count them out of them winning
- 8:36potentially this personal agent AI race.
- 8:39Now, the biggest downside, obviously, is
- 8:41that Meta's models are not that great
- 8:43yet, although they have improved a lot.
- 8:44So, with the amount of compute that they
- 8:46have, I'm sure they're going to catch up
- 8:48or get very close to catching up with
- 8:50OpenAI and Anthropic. Next one is Dots.
- 8:54What can I say about Dots? I mean,
- 8:57to me, and I hate to say this cuz
- 8:58overall, I love OpenAI's models, I
- 9:00thought Dots was a colossal
- 9:02disappointment. And the reason why, they
- 9:04hyped it up during Dev Days so much. I
- 9:07think it was Tibo that said they had
- 9:08like 6 months worth that they were 6
- 9:11months ahead in terms of development.
- 9:12So, I thought that they were really
- 9:14going to release something unique and
- 9:15really special. And then they released
- 9:17Dots, and when it came out,
- 9:19it wasn't really anything special. Like,
- 9:21everything that it did, Grok bot could
- 9:23do it, Muse could do it.
- 9:25It was super buggy. Its computer use
- 9:27didn't work really well.
- 9:29And and the worst part was it it
- 9:31required to be part of the Codex app,
- 9:32and I was originally the biggest fan of
- 9:34the Codex app, but over time, it got
- 9:36really confusing and bloated and really
- 9:38hogs the RAM of your computer. So, the
- 9:40fact that you had to be in Codex to use
- 9:42Dot was kind of a real negative and
- 9:45downside for me. Again, it is powered by
- 9:47the GPT Astra model, which are right now
- 9:49are OpenAI's strongest models. Although,
- 9:51with the new release of Tera 6.1, I'm
- 9:53pretty sure they're going to be pivoting
- 9:55all the Dot agents to that. It can spin
- 9:57up different Codex threads when you give
- 9:59it things to do, and then you can go
- 10:00ahead and look at those Codex threads.
- 10:02It also has a feature where you can call
- 10:04and talk to the agent. For me
- 10:05personally, I don't understand why they
- 10:07made it like a phone call. It absolutely
- 10:08makes no sense to me. Like, you should
- 10:10just have one button where you
- 10:11immediately you can talk to your dot.
- 10:12That would make a lot more sense. But,
- 10:14again, you can talk to it. GPT's voice
- 10:17mode is really good. Um so, there are
- 10:18benefits to that. It's been at least
- 10:20over a week since I've last used it, and
- 10:22I know they're iterating a lot, so I'm
- 10:23sure improvements will be made along the
- 10:24way. But, again, there is something
- 10:26about first mover's advantage and
- 10:27getting used to what you're already
- 10:29working with, and I think
- 10:30I think OpenAI kind of missed the mark
- 10:32with dots.
- 10:33Now, the last one is kind of
- 10:34interesting. It's Claude Duet, and it's
- 10:36Anthropic's version of the personal
- 10:37agent. Now,
- 10:38I'm going to start off by saying in some
- 10:41degrees, I do have personal agent
- 10:42fatigue. Like, I've tried a lot of
- 10:44different ones, and then finally
- 10:45Anthropic released theirs. But, by the
- 10:47time they released it, myself, and I'm
- 10:48sure a lot of other people were already
- 10:50kind of wary about trying another agent,
- 10:52and they're already really kind of set
- 10:53in their workflows. That being said,
- 10:56there are real positives to Claude Duet.
- 10:57For starters, it is powered by the best
- 10:59model in the world right now, which is
- 11:00Opus 5.5. I mean, Opus 5.5 is leaps and
- 11:04bounds above everything else right now.
- 11:06It has incredible usage. It's a really
- 11:07really good model. And it's pow- And
- 11:09Claude Duet is powered by it, so that
- 11:10alone gives it already an advantage over
- 11:12every single other personal agent. Now,
- 11:14the issue that I have with it was kind
- 11:16of the same issue that I had with Muse
- 11:18is that it's just one thread. And again,
- 11:20they do something cool where like, you
- 11:21have one thread, but then it will spin
- 11:22off different uh channels like in Slack.
- 11:25So, anytime you talk about your
- 11:26finances, it will go to the finance
- 11:27channel. Anytime you talk about um a
- 11:30certain project, it'll go to that
- 11:31project. Anytime you talk about video
- 11:33editing, it will talk it will spin up a
- 11:34channel and keep it in that video
- 11:36editing channel. And that is cool, and
- 11:38it's obviously uh mirrored and tailored
- 11:41off the Claude code projects feature,
- 11:42which recently came out.
- 11:44That being said, again, it's not my cup
- 11:46of tea. I'd rather have virtual agents
- 11:47that have names, that have really
- 11:49clearly defined roles, and not one agent
- 11:52that I'm talking to where I'm starting
- 11:53to get confused what I was talking
- 11:54about. Like, if you have five, six
- 11:56different topics you're going on about,
- 11:57like, you get really confused and mixed
- 11:59up with with with what you're doing at
- 12:00that point. Now, obviously, Opus 5.5, it
- 12:03creates incredible decks, incredible
- 12:05dashboards. Again, it's proactive. It
- 12:07does a lot of things great.
- 12:08My two cents is I think all these
- 12:11personal agents probably are going to
- 12:12converging to a degree. So, to then go
- 12:15and do a whole thing with Claude do it,
- 12:17it's not super appealing to me
- 12:18personally. So, with that said, we are
- 12:20going to be doing a tiers list of where
- 12:23I would place each agent. So, I would
- 12:26say dots is going to be C tier. It felt
- 12:30rushed, it felt bloated. It doesn't
- 12:31really do anything that Grok Bot or Muse
- 12:33couldn't already do. So, for that, it
- 12:35got a C tier. Hopefully in the future,
- 12:37maybe it'll rise up, maybe they'll
- 12:38improve it. Right now, I think it's been
- 12:39a bust overall for Open AI. Second one
- 12:41is Hermes. Or or Hermes? How do people
- 12:44pronounce that anyway? Uh I'm putting
- 12:46that at C tier. It used to be A or S
- 12:48tier for me, but the fact is, again, it
- 12:50got bloated. There's a lot of tinkering
- 12:52involved. There's a lot of maintenance
- 12:53to do. Again, if you're trying to get
- 12:55real meaningful work done in business or
- 12:56anything I don't think Hermes is the way
- 12:58to go outside of a couple of really
- 13:00specific use cases, whether you're if
- 13:02you're running local models or if again,
- 13:04you run it run Slack agents, although
- 13:06Grok Bot does that now, too. But
- 13:07overall, I find it's just too much work.
- 13:10I would say it's a C tier right now.
- 13:13Claude do it.
- 13:14Again, it's run by the best model in the
- 13:16world. Um
- 13:17there isn't really too much negative to
- 13:18say about it other than the format isn't
- 13:21for me. I don't like the one thread. If
- 13:22you like that one thread kind of thing,
- 13:24it's probably S tier for you. For me,
- 13:26I'm going to put it at A tier. Uh Muse.
- 13:29I'm going to put Muse on A tier as well.
- 13:31It's fast, it's proactive. Uh it talks
- 13:33to me the way I like. Uh there's a lot
- 13:35of really good things about it. The UI
- 13:36is probably on par with Grok Bot as
- 13:38being the best UI for agents.
- 13:41Um but ultimately, the models themselves
- 13:43are not as strong as some of the other
- 13:45models available right now, and because
- 13:46of that, I ended up putting it in an A
- 13:48tier. And again, it kind of had that
- 13:49same thing of one thread only. So,
- 13:52I really like Muse as a personal agent
- 13:54for my day-to-day life, but for pure
- 13:56work reasons, I generally don't like
- 13:58Muse.
- 14:00And then my favorite one is going to be
- 14:01Grok Bot. Now, I made Twitter posts
- 14:03about this like a month or 2 months ago
- 14:05uh disparaging Grok Bot because the
- 14:07usage was just so bad. I felt you
- 14:09couldn't get any meaningful work done.
- 14:11That has since improved a lot. I think
- 14:13the usage issues kind of are still a
- 14:15thing, but they've improved a lot. I can
- 14:17get meaningful work done with it and
- 14:18more than anything else, it just feels
- 14:20incredibly reliable. It works outside
- 14:22the box. I really like the team that's
- 14:24behind it, too. And so for me, for pure
- 14:26work reasons, I think most people should
- 14:28probably be going with Grokpod. So there
- 14:30you have it. Ultimately, it comes down
- 14:31to how you like to talk to your agents.
- 14:33I have a very clear way I like to talk
- 14:35to mine. Yours may be different, so your
- 14:37list may be looking a little bit
- 14:38different. So feel free to experiment
- 14:39with different ones and it ultimately
- 14:41don't count out open source models like
- 14:44or open source harnesses like Hermes
- 14:46because I think as the models get
- 14:48better, faster, smarter, I do think the
- 14:50future is still going to be open source
- 14:52like even something like an open claw. I
- 14:55think these are going to be coming back
- 14:56at some point when the models get
- 14:58really, really good. So So ultimately,
- 14:59don't count them out. Keep experimenting
- 15:01with all of these different agents. Find
- 15:03your best one and once you find one that
- 15:05you like, just stick with that until
- 15:06something clearly better comes out.
- 15:09Don't sit there experimenting with every
- 15:10single one of them if you don't need to.
- 15:12All right. Hope to see you guys in the
- 15:13next video. Bye.
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