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  1. 0:34All right.
  2. 0:37Another
  3. 0:40day. What is up?
  4. 1:39with the eval.
  5. 1:42How How long you been on the eval for?
  6. 1:52Uh I mean it just depends. Um,
  7. 1:56it just depends like
  8. 1:59what you're planning on using uh heat
  9. 2:01map or bookmap for. I mean, I have like
  10. 2:04a version of it right here.
  11. 2:26Sorry, my bad. I'm texting somebody
  12. 2:28right now.
  13. 2:33All right.
  14. 2:37Looks like we're actually going to be
  15. 2:38coming down here.
  16. 2:41Um, I like ATS because
  17. 2:49I like ATS because um
  18. 2:52it has both footprint and heat map. You
  19. 2:55can get bookmap if you want.
  20. 3:02You can get bookmap if you want, but
  21. 3:05um I used to I used to only have bookmap
  22. 3:08before.
  23. 3:13But but honestly, like
  24. 3:19I mean whether or not it's going to
  25. 3:21benefit you just kind of depends on like
  26. 3:23how how you trade. I guess
  27. 3:27for the for the most part most people
  28. 3:29are not like
  29. 3:32I mean, I don't know. I don't know what
  30. 3:34your situation is with trading, but if
  31. 3:36you're struggling with an EVA going up
  32. 3:38and down over the course of one week,
  33. 3:41um, you know, there's a there's a chance
  34. 3:43that it has nothing to do with your
  35. 3:47strategy. You might just be like,
  36. 3:51well, actually, I don't know. It's hard
  37. 3:54to tell.
  38. 3:56Yeah, bookmap is good for heat map.
  39. 4:00But I mean like I have a heat map right
  40. 4:02here.
  41. 4:05All right. I can see it.
  42. 4:08I have the the levels.
  43. 4:27Um, if you were to like get bookmap,
  44. 4:32it'll look very similar to this,
  45. 4:34although it'll be kind of more like
  46. 4:37it'll look maybe kind of like this. The
  47. 4:39bubbles will be a little bit bigger. Um,
  48. 4:44it's pretty it's pretty good though. But
  49. 4:46it's like
  50. 4:49bookmap or heat map is not going to be
  51. 4:51like some type of magical thing that's
  52. 4:53going to just totally transform your
  53. 4:56trading. I mean, you're going to have to
  54. 4:57learn how to use it. And then especially
  55. 4:59with
  56. 5:01um when it comes to with like heat
  57. 5:03levels,
  58. 5:05um these are passive orders. So, these
  59. 5:08can get taken away uh really at any
  60. 5:11moment. So,
  61. 5:15you got to take that into account, too.
  62. 5:17You got to understand that.
  63. 5:21Yeah. resting orders can just get pulled
  64. 5:23whenever
  65. 5:25they could be spoofed. I mean, if
  66. 5:27you're, let's say you were targeting um
  67. 5:30or there was some large order right here
  68. 5:32that you thought we weren't going to
  69. 5:34push through and then they just pull it
  70. 5:37right before price comes up here and we
  71. 5:39just rip through it. Or if you were
  72. 5:41targeting some type of heat level that
  73. 5:42was up here that you thought price was
  74. 5:44attracted to to try and take it out and
  75. 5:46then it just gets removed and then now
  76. 5:48where are you targeting? So,
  77. 5:51I think footprint
  78. 5:54is more important because
  79. 5:57it's showing you basically it's more
  80. 6:00important than a heat map. Heat map is
  81. 6:02like a nice complement for footprint but
  82. 6:05realistically like footprint is showing
  83. 6:08you what actually happened. Um
  84. 6:13bookmap is just showing you where level
  85. 6:15where like uh levels are, right?
  86. 6:21No, you should not be using uh footprint
  87. 6:23on Trading View. That's
  88. 6:26uh that's like the worst footprint you
  89. 6:28can use. And the reason why is because
  90. 6:31the way that they're calculating their
  91. 6:33data is actually different. So, you're
  92. 6:36not going to see the same information
  93. 6:38that I see
  94. 6:40when I look at my bid and ask ladder on
  95. 6:43a test. You're going to be seeing like I
  96. 6:45forgot how they calculate it, but
  97. 6:49it's calculating it based off of like
  98. 6:55not true orders. Like, it's not actually
  99. 6:57calculating the amount of orders that
  100. 7:00came through on the bid and the ask.
  101. 7:01using some other type of calculation
  102. 7:03where you kind of get an like an idea,
  103. 7:07but it's like ticks up or ticks down or
  104. 7:10certain amount of ticks or something.
  105. 7:12I looked it up one time. I forget
  106. 7:15though,
  107. 7:17but I just know that it's like uh not
  108. 7:19like a real it's not a real footprint
  109. 7:21chart.
  110. 7:25Yeah, ATS is good. I see a lot of people
  111. 7:27using deep charts. Uh there's also
  112. 7:29Sierra Charts. Quant tower has
  113. 7:32footprint.
  114. 7:37So I mean there's a few different
  115. 7:39platforms. I just like uh ATS cuz I'm
  116. 7:42used to it. I've been using it for a
  117. 7:44long time.
  118. 7:47Deep Charts looks pretty good. I've
  119. 7:49never tried it though. But they also
  120. 7:50have a heat map on there if you want it.
  121. 7:52They also have big trades. They also
  122. 7:54have uh you know your normal bid and ask
  123. 7:58footprint ladder
  124. 8:01and um CR Charts is like the OG but it's
  125. 8:06a bit of a learning curve to set it up
  126. 8:09correctly and
  127. 8:11trying to use it
  128. 8:13right now. This morning I'm looking um
  129. 8:16to see if we're
  130. 8:19going to continue lower. We um
  131. 8:23we may pop back up here. So I am just
  132. 8:25gonna wait, but
  133. 8:28we fell right back into this range. It
  134. 8:31looked like we were going to come out of
  135. 8:32here, but we fell right back in the
  136. 8:35range.
  137. 8:36If we do start to head lower, I'm
  138. 8:38looking for us to take these lows and
  139. 8:39start heading towards about like 6:30,
  140. 8:416:15. So,
  141. 8:45we'll see if we can
  142. 8:49see if we can um
  143. 8:53make our way down there. We're about to
  144. 8:55open up here. So,
  145. 9:08we did have a pretty decent move during
  146. 9:10London session to the downside. We
  147. 9:13failed
  148. 9:14to get past the daily volume imbalance
  149. 9:16up here and we actually left relative
  150. 9:18equal highs. Um, we we're probably going
  151. 9:21to revisit those, but since we are in a
  152. 9:23range,
  153. 9:26I want to see if we're actually going to
  154. 9:27continue further deeper into this range.
  155. 9:35The first target is going to be, if we
  156. 9:37do go lower, the first target is going
  157. 9:39to be Monday's lows,
  158. 9:42which is around um
  159. 9:48the 630 level.
  160. 9:57If we start to get above um
  161. 10:01about 840 850 area and we have some
  162. 10:04strong momentum to the upside, then I'm
  163. 10:05going to be looking to take this back
  164. 10:07higher. But until then,
  165. 10:10we're going to see if there's
  166. 10:10opportunities to go short.
  167. 10:41All right. Uh I think we're
  168. 10:48Let's see if this is going to whiplash
  169. 10:50back up. We had some sellers try and
  170. 10:51step in to push price lower.
  171. 10:54There is a delay on the um
  172. 10:57Project X chart right now.
  173. 11:03All right, I'm going to enter in on the
  174. 11:06shorts here.
  175. 11:09It is pretty dangerous though because we
  176. 11:11could just whiplash up right now.
  177. 11:14Um,
  178. 11:16but I want to just give it a shot
  179. 11:18honestly.
  180. 11:20So, I'm going to risk like
  181. 11:26$400 440.
  182. 11:30And we're going to be trying to see if
  183. 11:32we can flush lower to
  184. 11:35probably
  185. 11:38630 area for maybe a 100 points if we
  186. 11:40can get it. The moment we take these
  187. 11:42lows though, um
  188. 11:45I'm going to be moving my stop to break
  189. 11:47even.
  190. 11:56All right, we just took the lows. stops
  191. 11:58going to break even. We'll see if we can
  192. 12:00continue the flush down. I'm going to be
  193. 12:01going for
  194. 12:03uh
  195. 12:06about 632.
  196. 12:08See if we can and we're in five micros
  197. 12:11because it is a market open trade, but
  198. 12:12we are getting some momentum lower. I
  199. 12:15want to see if we can take Monday's
  200. 12:16lows.
  201. 12:34Just don't want us to basically snap
  202. 12:36back.
  203. 12:39Keep in mind though if you're taking
  204. 12:40trades that I'm taking, especially
  205. 12:42during market open, there is like a
  206. 12:44delay. So
  207. 12:48you are very unlikely to get like the
  208. 12:51same entry as me.
  209. 12:58So, we're what I'm expecting right now
  210. 13:00is for us to just basically melt
  211. 13:02through. Um, I'm actually going to take
  212. 13:06out majority of the orders right here
  213. 13:08and then I'm going to leave two runners
  214. 13:10because I think there is a potential
  215. 13:12that we can actually get a little bit
  216. 13:13lower.
  217. 13:24I just don't want this to basically snap
  218. 13:26back. I need us to stay below
  219. 13:31here.
  220. 13:53All right, nasty wick. We got hit at
  221. 13:55break even.
  222. 13:56We couldn't push lower. Buyers are
  223. 13:59stepping in. So, we're going to wait
  224. 14:01now.
  225. 14:03We went about from our entry. I think
  226. 14:06that was like 50 points in profit maybe.
  227. 14:08Yeah, like
  228. 14:11let's see.
  229. 14:14Yeah, like 50 points in profit.
  230. 14:17I just wanted it to go lower, but we
  231. 14:20couldn't really get there.
  232. 14:24That was a pretty nasty wick, though.
  233. 14:36So, all these sellers are getting
  234. 14:38trapped now. See if we're going to just
  235. 14:39rip higher.
  236. 14:47I want to see how this five minute going
  237. 14:49to close right now.
  238. 15:55I'm might attempt a long.
  239. 15:59That was a nasty wick below and trapped
  240. 16:02a lot of the sellers there.
  241. 16:05>> Order filled.
  242. 16:06>> All right, I'm going to go long right
  243. 16:08here. I am going to have to have a
  244. 16:10pretty big stop loss, though. So, we're
  245. 16:12going to be risking like
  246. 16:17like $900.
  247. 16:19The moment we pop up here, if we can to
  248. 16:21take the highs,
  249. 16:24uh, I'm going to move my stop to break
  250. 16:25even. Otherwise, we're going to be down
  251. 16:26like $900 today.
  252. 16:31And I might just have to chill for a
  253. 16:35bit.
  254. 16:43I would like us to just not get past
  255. 16:46here with these buyers. Otherwise, it's
  256. 16:48going to be like the nastiest
  257. 16:50whiplash.
  258. 17:00>> Order filled.
  259. 17:01>> All right, I got absolutely cooked right
  260. 17:03now.
  261. 17:19That was nasty.
  262. 17:21So, the reason why I thought we were
  263. 17:22going to go long is because
  264. 17:25we pushed lower.
  265. 17:30We um took these lows and then as
  266. 17:33sellers were coming in right here, they
  267. 17:34basically failed to continue down to um
  268. 17:41Monday's lows and we snapped back like
  269. 17:43really hard. So, I was expect I was
  270. 17:45expecting us to go higher, but I was
  271. 17:47wrong. So,
  272. 17:49and I went normal size on that. So, I
  273. 17:52ended up taking like a $800 loss.
  274. 17:56So So, now I have to wait cuz
  275. 18:06I got cooked basically.
  276. 18:42So, now that we're coming back down
  277. 18:44here,
  278. 18:46I'm going to see if we're going to
  279. 18:49actually continue or if we're going to
  280. 18:51end up making like a
  281. 18:56whiplashing like range right here.
  282. 20:20All
  283. 20:32right.
  284. 20:40Damn, dude. I got wrecked right there.
  285. 20:43I was seeing if we were going to I took
  286. 20:46a short thinking we were going to come
  287. 20:47down to uh this area. Snap back, took me
  288. 20:52out, faked me out. I thought we were
  289. 20:54going to then start heading back up here
  290. 20:59and then just got violated.
  291. 21:30Looks like we're still going to be
  292. 21:31heading down here though for now, unless
  293. 21:34we just start
  294. 21:36whiplashing back and forth.
  295. 21:51I want to see how the 15 minutes going
  296. 21:52to close.
  297. 22:02I think if I lose one more trade though,
  298. 22:04honestly, I'm probably just going to
  299. 22:06stop trading for the day and just take
  300. 22:08my take my L.
  301. 22:25There it goes.
  302. 22:57Thank you.
  303. 23:49So, we're approaching uh
  304. 23:53Monday's lows and then below that we got
  305. 23:56a couple other lows here that we might
  306. 23:58just wipe out. But
  307. 24:07I fumbled I fumbled the shorts on that
  308. 24:09one.
  309. 24:12You know I want to chase it.
  310. 24:30And I'm going to wait for this 15-minute
  311. 24:31candle to close.
  312. 24:59All
  313. 25:15right. So, we took Monday's lows.
  314. 25:21Now, we're going to see if we continue
  315. 25:23down to take uh Thursday's low from last
  316. 25:27week.
  317. 25:32Well, this is Friday's low, but
  318. 25:34Thursday's low is right here.
  319. 26:05All
  320. 26:34right. There's nothing I can do at this
  321. 26:36point. I got to just wait now.
  322. 26:41I fumbled the fumbled the move of the
  323. 26:44morning or one of the moves of the
  324. 26:46morning.
  325. 26:48Got faked out
  326. 26:52and then just watched our original plan
  327. 26:55work out
  328. 26:58and now we took the lows. We may come
  329. 27:01down here, but I can't really enter it
  330. 27:04because
  331. 27:08it would just kind of be I wouldn't want
  332. 27:11to take a loss on that.
  333. 27:36I'm going to be looking to see if this
  334. 27:38area is going to basically hold with the
  335. 27:42sellers
  336. 27:44and if we're going to continue lower, if
  337. 27:45we're about to just
  338. 27:47snap back.
  339. 27:56We do have news. Um, it's not like major
  340. 27:59news, but it's still red folder
  341. 28:02at 10 a.m. Eastern.
  342. 29:28All right. So, what I'm thinking right
  343. 29:30now is
  344. 29:32yesterday we made 3,600.
  345. 29:35So,
  346. 29:36I'm going to if I do take another trade,
  347. 29:40I'm going to risk like 400 bucks. I'm
  348. 29:42going to have to go five micros to try
  349. 29:44and make some of the
  350. 29:46losses back.
  351. 29:49And then if I end up losing 400 and we
  352. 29:52go down like
  353. 29:5412 $1,300 on the day, I am just gonna
  354. 29:58have to stop.
  355. 30:03But it's all right.
  356. 31:43I might wait for the 4hour candle to
  357. 31:45open with the red folder news that we
  358. 31:48have.
  359. 32:31order filled.
  360. 32:32>> All right, I'm going to go short. It's
  361. 32:34going to be my last trade. If this snaps
  362. 32:37back and takes me out for like $400
  363. 32:40right now,
  364. 32:43uh then I just got cooked today and then
  365. 32:46I'll just come back. um tomorrow,
  366. 32:50but we're going to be seeing if it can
  367. 32:52come lower down to the 569 area.
  368. 33:15Oh
  369. 34:14If we come down right now and uh take
  370. 34:16out the order sitting at 600, I'm going
  371. 34:18to move my stop to break even. We're
  372. 34:21basically going for about um
  373. 34:27like 60 points right now.
  374. 34:30But we have a pretty big stop loss,
  375. 34:48but it needs to close lower. Otherwise,
  376. 34:50this is about to open the next fivem
  377. 34:52minutee candle here and then just rip
  378. 34:56to take our at our stop.
  379. 36:21All right. So once we um
  380. 36:40I needed to flush basically to take out
  381. 36:44600 so I could move my stop to break
  382. 36:46even.
  383. 36:58It's stalling out right here. I'm going
  384. 37:00to just move my stop to break even.
  385. 37:02Plus, I really need to go to the
  386. 37:04bathroom.
  387. 37:09Yeah, I was expecting um
  388. 37:12>> more momentum to come through, but
  389. 37:16I need to be careful basically.
  390. 37:19Because because if um
  391. 37:23if the idea this morning towards the
  392. 37:25open right was I was saying that I was
  393. 37:27looking for price to go lower to take
  394. 37:29out basically these two lows right here
  395. 37:32and we have news news coming in right
  396. 37:34now. So, if
  397. 37:37I was looking for this move for us to
  398. 37:40basically drop off the open, come down
  399. 37:43here, take this out, take this out, and
  400. 37:46then we already just did that. And then
  401. 37:47now I'm in another trade trying to
  402. 37:49extend it lower. Uh, it's kind of And
  403. 37:53I'm already in draw down because I got
  404. 37:55faked out on the longs. Oh, you can't
  405. 37:57even see my screen. My bad. So I said
  406. 38:00earlier this morning when we were
  407. 38:02opening up I was looking for us to take
  408. 38:04these two lows out basically.
  409. 38:08So I entered in the first time we went
  410. 38:10like 50 points in the profit. It snap
  411. 38:13back and then I try to go long here got
  412. 38:15wrecked. But now after it's already
  413. 38:18taken this out, I'm taking like a really
  414. 38:21late attempt to try and basically have
  415. 38:24price continue lower to these lows,
  416. 38:27which is pretty risky to do so,
  417. 38:30especially right before we have the
  418. 38:324hour candle open up. So I got to just
  419. 38:36got to just chill.
  420. 39:36All
  421. 39:50right, let's see what the 4 hour does
  422. 39:51right now.
  423. 40:14The ATR is massive right now on
  424. 40:18five minute candles.
  425. 40:21It's 41 points.
  426. 40:37Nasty.
  427. 40:39It's going to take the final low here.
  428. 40:42Or is it not?
  429. 41:17Damn, dude. I'm so bummed that I let
  430. 41:20myself get faked out this morning. The
  431. 41:24bias was lower.
  432. 41:26I said it right when we opened the
  433. 41:28stream. I said I'm looking for price to
  434. 41:30go lower today. I tried to take it lower
  435. 41:34and then this five minute candle just
  436. 41:36like
  437. 41:38I should have never went to try I should
  438. 41:40have or at least if I went to go long
  439. 41:42right here
  440. 41:44I should have just went half size.
  441. 41:49because it was against my bias in the
  442. 41:51draw because the draw for the day where
  443. 41:53these lows that were just like sitting
  444. 41:55here,
  445. 41:57you know, we're coming down
  446. 42:00this area right here was Whoops.
  447. 42:05was the draw with
  448. 42:08this one being realistically
  449. 42:11the final draw. I mean, we do have like
  450. 42:13this uh gap down here that was like
  451. 42:16quote unquote never filled, but uh I
  452. 42:18don't really care for that. I was mainly
  453. 42:20looking at this as the last draw for the
  454. 42:22downside
  455. 42:24and
  456. 42:26I just fumbled it. So now at this point,
  457. 42:29right, it's like, okay, the move of the
  458. 42:32day, move of the morning that I was
  459. 42:34looking for has already happened, but I
  460. 42:38fumbled it. Even though I was
  461. 42:40anticipating this to happen, I fumbled
  462. 42:42it. I was still wrong.
  463. 42:46And now we're down 860. So yesterday we
  464. 42:49made 3,200.
  465. 42:52Today we lost 860.
  466. 42:55I did get I did get paid from top step
  467. 42:57last night.
  468. 42:59But I don't want to cause like
  469. 43:02a bunch of damage to my account today,
  470. 43:05especially after
  471. 43:07what we were looking for basically
  472. 43:08played out.
  473. 43:11So, that's a bummer. But what can you
  474. 43:14do? You know what you can do is you can
  475. 43:16even you can try to get even or get even
  476. 43:19worse. And I don't want to do that. So,
  477. 43:22I'm gonna sit here for a little bit. But
  478. 43:24realistically, like
  479. 43:28it's done. This is what I wanted. It
  480. 43:31happened.
  481. 43:33I missed it. I fumbled it. Now we got to
  482. 43:36just
  483. 43:38accept it and move on.
  484. 43:46I wish it didn't snap back at the open.
  485. 43:48That would have been nice. Some like
  486. 43:50right here.
  487. 43:57Yeah.
  488. 44:01Wait, I got to leave this here actually
  489. 44:04because this hasn't been taken yet.
  490. 44:10Let's
  491. 44:14see.
  492. 44:40getting sick.
  493. 45:45Let's take a look at what silver and
  494. 45:47gold are doing.
  495. 45:49They're coming down.
  496. 46:09All right. Honestly, I got cooked today.
  497. 46:12I gotta just take it on the chin. If I
  498. 46:14The longer I sit here and sit on stream,
  499. 46:16the more likely I am, the more likely I
  500. 46:18am to just take another trade. I don't
  501. 46:21think I should be taking another trade
  502. 46:23today
  503. 46:25because what I was looking for to happen
  504. 46:27already happened. So, it's going to be a
  505. 46:28bit of a shorter stream today because we
  506. 46:30took a L and then the move played out
  507. 46:33actually pretty quickly.
  508. 46:35So,
  509. 46:38I'm going to take a break. I don't think
  510. 46:40it's a good idea to continue to trade
  511. 46:42for me. If you're going to It is good
  512. 46:45volume. It's good momentum. So, if
  513. 46:47you're going to continue trading, good
  514. 46:49luck. But unfortunately, today was not
  515. 46:51my day. And the best thing to do at this
  516. 46:55point is just not make it worse. So,
  517. 46:57I'll be back tomorrow
  518. 47:00and uh
  519. 47:04yeah, so see you guys later. Peace.

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