God's Generals Series - Kathryn Kuhlman — Transcript
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- 0:01[Music]
- 0:08every Sunday morning on television and
- 0:10throughout the week on radio thousands
- 0:13of people heard this woman say I believe
- 0:15in miracles because I believe in God her
- 0:18name was Katherine Kuhlman had come by
- 0:20the thousands to her miracle services
- 0:22they'd pack out the auditoriums in less
- 0:24than an hour with thousands on the
- 0:26outside still trying to get in this week
- 0:28we're gonna discuss the life in the
- 0:30ministry of this great and wonderful
- 0:31woman she happens to be my favorite of
- 0:33all the journals I've ever studied it's
- 0:35Kathryn Kuhlman I'm Roberts lerton and
- 0:37this is God's General's
- 0:39[Music]
- 0:52some of God's great generals come from
- 0:55the most unusual backgrounds the woman
- 0:57we're talking about the day is happens
- 0:59to be my favorite it's Kathryn Kuhlman
- 1:01she's my favorite for two reasons one I
- 1:03saw her three times as a little boy
- 1:06growing up and then also reading all of
- 1:08her sermons and her radio broadcasts
- 1:11that I bought and listened to over the
- 1:12years has really made me fall in love
- 1:14with Alma named Kathryn Kuhlman like I
- 1:17said in the intro thousands of people
- 1:19every Sunday morning turned on their
- 1:22televisions as they were getting ready
- 1:23for church or just waking up from a bad
- 1:24Saturday night to see a redhead a woman
- 1:27say I believe in miracles because I
- 1:29believe in God I have next to me an
- 1:32empty wheelchair which is probably the
- 1:34greatest symbol of a Kathryn Kuhlman
- 1:36miracle service because in her services
- 1:38people come out of the wheelchairs where
- 1:40they were believing in for miracles or
- 1:42not in one thing get very clear and that
- 1:46is a Kathryn Kuhlman has nothing to do
- 1:48with these miracles please get that
- 1:50straight and call me anything I don't
- 1:52care what they call me
- 1:54but don't call me a faith healer
- 1:55whatever you do because I resent that
- 1:58very much because I am NOT a faith
- 2:01healer and always you know I'm referred
- 2:04to as a faith healer
- 2:05I've never healed anyone I have no
- 2:08heating power I have no healing virtue
- 2:10and it's so simple that's the reason
- 2:15that people miss it it's still God they
- 2:18forget that the greatest force in the
- 2:20world and the greatest power in the
- 2:21world
- 2:22is God I'm not a psychic healer don't
- 2:29put me in the category of a psychic
- 2:31healer these healings are not a matter
- 2:34of mind over matter it's simply the
- 2:38power of God is that simple if you're
- 2:42going to get people to understand it
- 2:44somebody else have a question you see
- 2:48how simple and easy it is her life began
- 2:50in a small town in Missouri called a
- 2:53crossroads town called Concordia
- 2:55Missouri you blink your eyes too fast as
- 2:58you're driving through you'll miss it
- 2:59the only great thing that ever happened
- 3:02in Corey was Kathleen Coleman
- 3:03her father became mayor of the town her
- 3:06mother and father went to two different
- 3:07churches one was Baptists and one was
- 3:09Methodist so Kathryn Kuhlman had to make
- 3:12a choice who she want to go to church
- 3:13with on that Sunday and would go either
- 3:16with her mom or her dad and that's how
- 3:18Kathryn grew up she'd go around town
- 3:20with her dad and everybody knew her
- 3:22father and begin to know her too as the
- 3:24atomic dual that would walk around town
- 3:26because Kathryn adore her father that's
- 3:29for the one reason why she had such a
- 3:31love for her Heavenly Father and had
- 3:33said she ate warm relationship that you
- 3:35could see when you'd see her speak on TV
- 3:37or in a miracle service Kathryn
- 3:39Kuhlman's life was not one that we'd say
- 3:42in the beginning was eventful she didn't
- 3:44finish high school
- 3:45her sister married a healing evangelist
- 3:48named parent that was his last name and
- 3:50so as they would travel around the
- 3:52country with their small Gospel tint
- 3:54they eventually found out that he needed
- 3:56some help to take care of the kids so
- 3:58Catherine's sister called magma
- 3:59Concordia and asked her mom and dad and
- 4:02then eventually asked Kathryn would
- 4:03Katherine come out and travel with him
- 4:06and take care of the children while they
- 4:07were doing the hitting Crusades so mom
- 4:11and dad agreed and Kathryn agreed so
- 4:13Kathryn packed her little bag and head
- 4:15out to be with her sister and
- 4:16brother-in-law and begin to be the nanny
- 4:18for the children and would sit in the
- 4:20meetings every night now her
- 4:22brother-in-law
- 4:22had a great healing ministry and one of
- 4:24the great things about his ministry was
- 4:26that when he began to worship God or
- 4:28begin to pray for people they would
- 4:29sought out under the power now remember
- 4:31in today's world that you and I live in
- 4:33being slain in the spirit is quite
- 4:35normal there is the real folks who fall
- 4:38becuase the power becomes on them so
- 4:40strongly others fall because everybody
- 4:42else falls and there's what I jokingly
- 4:44call the courtesy fall you just fall
- 4:45because you want to fall but back in
- 4:47those days you fell because God really
- 4:49came on you in a strong way and
- 4:51short-circuit your ability to stand and
- 4:52out you would go but after a period of
- 4:55months they were discovered that they
- 4:56couldn't afford to keep Kathryn with him
- 4:58and so they were gonna send Kathryn back
- 5:00to Concordia to home and maybe to finish
- 5:03school but Kathryn didn't want to go to
- 5:05Concordia
- 5:06it was a small little town she'd already
- 5:08maxed out all of the chick who was gonna
- 5:09do there and she didn't want to go back
- 5:11there and be born so instead of going
- 5:13back to
- 5:14gordium once and when it was time for
- 5:16her to leave she decided I want to start
- 5:18my ministry so Catherine as a teenage
- 5:21preacher begin to preach and she said I
- 5:23didn't know much all I knew was
- 5:25salvation so I'd preach salvation every
- 5:28night and ask people to get sane and
- 5:30then someone gets saved me come back the
- 5:32next night they get saved again and then
- 5:34the third night to get same again she
- 5:35said I kept making it save every night
- 5:37because that's all I knew
- 5:39you can only preach what you know and in
- 5:41those days Katherine couldn't only knew
- 5:42about being born again but she didn't
- 5:45have big crowds she would go out and
- 5:46teach and preach in or one-room
- 5:48schoolhouses she'd clean up turkey
- 5:50houses and chicken houses and sometimes
- 5:53sleeping in and preach in the same
- 5:54building at nighttime and that's how
- 5:56Kathryn Kuhlman began her ministry and
- 5:58as she began to travel around the
- 6:01country
- 6:01she finally end up in Denver Colorado in
- 6:03Denver Colorado her revival meetings
- 6:06were so successful that she decided to
- 6:08build a church and she built a church of
- 6:102,000 people and it became the best
- 6:12Church in town and you're on the
- 6:14traveling ministry circuit you had to
- 6:16make sure that you went through dinner
- 6:17you had to go to the Kuhlman Church
- 6:18because it was the best Church in town
- 6:20Raymond T Richard preached there others
- 6:22who preached there there come a man that
- 6:24would eventually change her life being
- 6:26Burroughs Waltrip but before we get into
- 6:28that part of our life story I want to
- 6:29stop just for a moment now I want you to
- 6:32go hear my favorite in general Kathleen
- 6:34Coleman speak to one of our miracle
- 6:35services you see I can only give you my
- 6:42own personal experience no one can give
- 6:46to anyone else any more than they've
- 6:48experienced themselves always remember
- 6:49that and just in a very simple way I'll
- 6:55give you my own personal experience
- 6:57regarding the Holy Spirit
- 7:02my first my very first association with
- 7:10the holy spirit within a burglar
- 7:14Methodist Church in Concordia Missouri
- 7:17if only you could know from whence I've
- 7:19come
- 7:21Concordia I don't think is on the map
- 7:24it's a small not more than 1200
- 7:28population
- 7:30mama was Methodist papa was Baptists
- 7:35neither one worked too hard at it and
- 7:41one Sunday morning and it says real to
- 7:47me this was my very first contact with
- 7:49the Holy Spirit and I didn't realize it
- 7:53one Sunday morning sitting with Mama in
- 7:58that little Methodist Church I don't
- 8:02think the church holds any more than a
- 8:04hundred people we were sitting there it
- 8:13was time for the last song and I was
- 8:16holding the old-fashioned Methodist
- 8:18hymnal whether anyone has ever been
- 8:22converted in that church before us since
- 8:24I'll never know but when the last song
- 8:30was being sung and I was holding that
- 8:32old-fashioned Methodist hymnal in my
- 8:34hand I was only 14 years of age
- 8:37something happened to me I cannot tell
- 8:42you one word the preacher said and not
- 8:44one but I only know that in that a
- 8:50moment the Holy Spirit came upon me I
- 8:54did not recognize I did not even know
- 8:57there was such a thing as the Holy
- 8:58Spirit and I began to shake I began to
- 9:05tremble
- 9:09so much so I had to leave him no down in
- 9:13the pew and I knew I had to do something
- 9:18I saw myself as I really was a sinner in
- 9:22the sight of God and I did something I'd
- 9:25laid that him load on and I did the only
- 9:27thing that I knew what to do I'd seen
- 9:29them picking church members and I
- 9:31slipped forward and sat down in the
- 9:35first pew right in the corner and
- 9:36whipped this was my conversion this was
- 9:41my first contact with the Holy Spirit I
- 9:45began to weep and I remember one of the
- 9:47old sisters came to me and brought me a
- 9:49handkerchief she said old Katherine she
- 9:51says don't cry you and I both know that
- 9:54you've been such a good little girl we
- 9:56both knew she was lying but in that
- 10:01moment something happened to me that was
- 10:05the new birth experience and it was so
- 10:08real that I've never doubted it since
- 10:11never
- 10:12I believe that when you're really born
- 10:17again there's a definite place of the
- 10:19definite time and you know it and his
- 10:24spirit the Holy Spirit will bear with us
- 10:26with your spirit the job has from death
- 10:30and the life and it's been that
- 10:33spiritual experience it's been my new
- 10:36birth experience has been so real but in
- 10:39that moment I had my first contact with
- 10:42the Holy Ghost
- 10:45she was passion her great church in
- 10:47Denver Colorado she had a guest speaker
- 10:49one night named burrows Waltrip he
- 10:52stayed over and kept doing meetings
- 10:53would come back several different
- 10:55occasions and a long story short he
- 10:58asked her to marry him everybody warned
- 11:00Katharine don't marry him don't do this
- 11:03don't do this people called people drove
- 11:05her friends told her not to but Kathryn
- 11:08Kuhlman ahead and married burles Waltrip
- 11:10in Iowa he had a ministry over there
- 11:12called a radio chapel in those days the
- 11:14radio ministry was the dominant ministry
- 11:16of the scene and so even during the
- 11:19wedding ceremony something strange
- 11:21happened she fainted during the way
- 11:23ceremony and they had to revive her
- 11:25swear she can come up and say yes to her
- 11:27vows but she did come back and say yes
- 11:29when they finished all of the the
- 11:31wedding celebrations they got on the car
- 11:34and drove back to the hotel with some
- 11:35friends to change clothes to start their
- 11:37honeymoon trip and before her new hubby
- 11:40could turn off the car she jumped out of
- 11:42the car rented the room of one of her
- 11:44friends in the hotel crying saying I've
- 11:46made a mistake what am I going to do and
- 11:48while she was in there talking to her
- 11:50friend and crying her husband knocked on
- 11:52the door - Catherine where are you come
- 11:54on let's go she stopped crying pulled
- 11:57herself together and begin the journey
- 11:58into her wilderness years she begin the
- 12:01journey of trying to figure out how do I
- 12:03fix this big mistake that I made in the
- 12:06life of Kathryn Kuhlman this is probably
- 12:08the greatest challenge that she faced
- 12:10she went into this marriage hoping that
- 12:13it was the real thing but pretty soon he
- 12:16wouldn't allow her to preach there are
- 12:18people that I've interviewed that saw
- 12:19her sitting on the stage why preach and
- 12:21she'd be crying and they thought she was
- 12:22being blessed by the anointing but what
- 12:24she was probably doing was crying going
- 12:26how do I get out of the mess that I'm in
- 12:29they finally moved to Los Angeles
- 12:30California where she went to a McPherson
- 12:33Bible School didn't graduate didn't even
- 12:35finish a whole semester but I've seen
- 12:37her name on the the book where she
- 12:39registered to be a part of it that
- 12:41didn't work for her finally one day she
- 12:43walked to a dead-end street in Los
- 12:45Angeles California this was a defining
- 12:47moment in Kathryn Kuhlman's life every
- 12:50one of us has these moments nobody else
- 12:52understands him but that individual
- 12:54understands him she walked to a dead-end
- 12:56street and she was crying and she looked
- 12:59up to heaven and she says God I have
- 13:00nothing left but my love for you
- 13:13it
- 13:15[Music]
- 13:17every
- 13:21if you really want to know the price
- 13:27you're really right I'll tell you
- 13:34it'll cost you everything
- 13:40captain Pullman died a long time ago
- 13:46I know the day I know the hour I can go
- 13:52to the spot
- 13:55we're Catherine Combe he died
- 13:58[Music]
- 14:03but could see
- 14:07for me it was easy
- 14:13because I had nothing
- 14:17I know better than anyone else from wins
- 14:19I've come from a little crossroads town
- 14:24in Missouri with a population of 1,200
- 14:28people
- 14:35I had nothing
- 14:38I was born without talent
- 14:44most people are born with something
- 14:48[Music]
- 14:52I didn't even have hair on my head when
- 14:54I was born just read fudge
- 15:03[Applause]
- 15:08[Music]
- 15:09one day
- 15:12I just looked up and said wonderful
- 15:15jeans
- 15:18I have
- 15:21I have nothing to give you but my love
- 15:25[Music]
- 15:26but all that I can give you and I love
- 15:32you with all my heart and I give you my
- 15:38book what is the living sacrifice
- 15:44if you can take nothing and use it then
- 15:48here's nothing
- 15:54it isn't silver petrol they keep asking
- 15:57for it isn't golden vessels sitting me
- 16:02he just need to Kathryn Kuhlman turned
- 16:08around went home packed her bags and
- 16:11called him into that marriage but began
- 16:13her journey back into her hi Colleen
- 16:15miss Cullen's life is a story of the god
- 16:19of a second chance
- 16:20so many times we only think of Miss
- 16:22Kuhlman as the great lady that wore the
- 16:23white dress and the big crowds and the
- 16:26empty wheelchairs and the miracles and
- 16:27that is a great part of her life but
- 16:29that was only the last 10 to 15 years of
- 16:32her life this part of her life was her
- 16:34journey back her journey back in
- 16:36ministry was was coupled with I think
- 16:39lots of Tears lots of heartache lots of
- 16:42fears she'd go places to preach and the
- 16:45pastor that invited her would hear about
- 16:47her divorce and closed her meeting down
- 16:48the worst case that I read about of this
- 16:51kind of situation happening to her was
- 16:53one time she was in the southern part of
- 16:54America had about 1,500 to 2,000 people
- 16:58if she was preaching and right in the
- 17:00middle of her preaching the pastor walk
- 17:01to the stage took the microphone away
- 17:03from her how the ashes esker all
- 17:05apologized to the crowd for having a
- 17:08false prophet as come and speak to them
- 17:09the ushers took her to her hotel room
- 17:12made her pack her bags put her on the
- 17:14bus and made her leave town there are
- 17:16being a million nights she would leave
- 17:18town crying in disgrace but she had
- 17:21determined that dead-end street the day
- 17:24that Kathryn Kuhlman died that she'd
- 17:26never turned back she'd give her life to
- 17:27God she'd fighting the cause of Christ
- 17:30and she'd serve Him
- 17:31to the end of her days she's about to
- 17:33have a great happening in her life she
- 17:35goes up to the Ohio Pennsylvania area
- 17:39and finds a little church to ask her for
- 17:41a meeting she doesn't mean and then at
- 17:44the end of it there were such good
- 17:45results of people getting saved and then
- 17:47local people love this redheaded woman
- 17:49named Katherine Kuhlman that they had a
- 17:51secret meeting that night after church
- 17:53and they voted that Bailey decided that
- 17:56she would be their pastor so the next
- 17:58morning they came to greet her all happy
- 18:00and excited she couldn't quite figure
- 18:02out why they were so excited because the
- 18:04amount of joy they were expressing
- 18:07not seem to go with the meetings and
- 18:08bless not even though they were good and
- 18:09they said last night we prayed and we
- 18:12voted and you're our new pastor we now
- 18:15welcome you as a pastor of this church
- 18:16and we're glad that you're going to take
- 18:18it in this coming ghost no no no I can't
- 18:22be your pastor so they go back and forth
- 18:24back and forth to this type of dialog
- 18:26and finally she tells him why they don't
- 18:28want her to be their pastor she stops
- 18:31and quietly says the reason why is
- 18:34because I'm divorced you don't want a
- 18:36divorcee to be your pastor and they go
- 18:39and I love this little group they go
- 18:41well we don't know about that Kathryn we
- 18:44don't know about what happened in that
- 18:45Katherine's life but we know this
- 18:47Kathryn and this Kathryn Kuhlman we want
- 18:50and this Kathryn Kuhlman we have voted
- 18:52and we have prayed and God told us you
- 18:55are our pastor will you please accept
- 18:57God's will and our acceptance and be our
- 18:59pastor and when they made that kind of
- 19:02compassionate statement to miss Cullen
- 19:04her heart could relax she could settle
- 19:07back and come into her own with this
- 19:10little group that loved her and didn't
- 19:12judge her on her past mistakes
- 19:13I stood there amazed in 1948 when the
- 19:19Lilly told me that she'd been healed of
- 19:23a tumor in Frankie's intubation I was
- 19:26awed algún is mr. overcame and said that
- 19:30he receives sight even because I never
- 19:34touched him I've never prayed balm ITU's
- 19:36curious as to what it happened
- 19:40recently in st. Louis globe-democrat
- 19:45reported that since 1948 committed a
- 19:50figure that they gave that at least two
- 19:54million people had been healed by the
- 19:57power of God through this ministry at
- 20:01one time I thought this was a this was a
- 20:04it was a pony but when it happened to me
- 20:07I've just tell the whole world that this
- 20:09is the the truest thing that ever was
- 20:12and I've seen healings here that make
- 20:14your hair stand on that hi my name is
- 20:17chell and I had a healing last month I
- 20:20had a
- 20:21ankylosing spondylitis which is us right
- 20:23it's sort of small joints of the spine
- 20:25and it has been verified by x-ray that
- 20:28calcification had set in and the doctors
- 20:31have confirmed it as being incurable and
- 20:33that it would gets arrested leeward I
- 20:35had a healing and my spine is straight
- 20:38and I'm fine and prayed the Lord I'm
- 20:41better than I have ever been and I'll
- 20:43never be the same again
- 20:51two million people this is what the news
- 20:56media has given that's reason you know
- 20:59the ministry needs no defense the
- 21:04miracles of healing need no defense
- 21:09sitting there there are thousands are
- 21:12watching and they need may feel as
- 21:15though that I am overdramatic when
- 21:18someone is willfully here for the part
- 21:22of God but they don't understand this
- 21:25that I'm just this thrilled with the
- 21:28very last miracle then I saw God
- 21:32performed as the first time there are no
- 21:35words in a given vocabulary to describe
- 21:39spiritual experiences and emotions
- 21:44because these things are spiritual but
- 21:47as real as the air that you weave I
- 21:51thought they needed more
- 21:52air-conditioning I was getting so
- 21:54terribly hot and now all at once when I
- 21:57turn to look at burning my head turns
- 21:59without holding
- 22:02[Music]
- 22:03everything and I noticed as soon as I
- 22:06stood up I could feel my feet with
- 22:09multiple sclerosis you don't have any
- 22:11feelings I was at 245 pounds vegetable
- 22:14all humped over to his neck left side
- 22:16paralyzed I had no ill feeling my hands
- 22:28straightened up I could turn my neck my
- 22:31left side had use in it I was a new man
- 22:34I know from my own experience my 30
- 22:37years of surgery and working with
- 22:39patients of this kind that this is
- 22:42medically impossible that this has to be
- 22:46a miracle of God to give me this healing
- 22:49of my back and to relieve this constant
- 22:52pain that I had in my legs how do you
- 22:55feel now I feel like I could shock the
- 23:01world by doing what I was blind and was
- 23:08let around like blind people need a
- 23:11doctor about I don't know I started to
- 23:19cry and I didn't ever cry much because I
- 23:23think that's one of the things about
- 23:25glaucoma you don't have much to it in
- 23:26the eyes or something
- 23:28and then I thought I saw the state but I
- 23:30didn't believe it I thought it was in my
- 23:32mind's eye that I tried and I took my
- 23:34glasses off and rub my eyes and I said
- 23:37tequan I see a little boy in the green
- 23:40sweater I was stunned I couldn't I
- 23:44couldn't say anything I I kept wanting
- 23:46to cry but I couldn't it was just that I
- 23:48was walking around days I couldn't
- 23:50believe I was there the thing is even
- 23:52though I believe in the supernatural
- 23:55part of God I'm not personally
- 23:57[Music]
- 23:59I do can become here Kathryn Kuhlman
- 24:07died following open-heart surgery
- 24:09it's likely however that her legacy of
- 24:12love and healing will be an inspiration
- 24:14for generations to come
- 24:15the lady from the little town of
- 24:17Concordia Missouri made too strong an
- 24:19imprint on too many millions of people
- 24:21to be soon forgotten Kathryn Kuhlman and
- 24:25the word miracles go together thousands
- 24:28of people would come some because they
- 24:29believed in the God of miracles others
- 24:31came skeptical but they both were
- 24:34touched by what God did through Kathryn
- 24:36Kuhlman you're a scientist he said I
- 24:41want you to forget Who I am
- 24:43but this is a scientist and it's true
- 24:47the two hardest people in the world to
- 24:49convince a doctor and a scientist what
- 24:53happened to you today before you knew
- 24:55you made a statement to the audience
- 24:58somebody heard I had damage to both ears
- 25:03and had gone to an ear specialist and
- 25:05had air forms put on and he turned the
- 25:09frequency up and he said it's no use you
- 25:12getting a hearing aid
- 25:14because both nerds are dead both nerves
- 25:16are nerves so then then your attendant
- 25:21down there started to giving me offense
- 25:23and pretty soon I told myself she's
- 25:26talking about a new one do you hear me
- 25:29perfectly no I hear you do you hear me
- 25:32now I hear you you hear me now I do you
- 25:36hear me now I know you hear me now oh
- 25:39you know do you still hear me I still
- 25:43hear you and the nerves are dead in both
- 25:46ears and they wouldn't even fit you with
- 25:48a hearing aid no siree
- 25:50did you believe when you came in here
- 25:51today no you not believe when you came
- 25:55in here today that's right
- 25:57what's right you didn't believe I didn't
- 25:59blink anything to help me why did you I
- 26:05lost faith in everything why did you
- 26:08come well sort of out of curiosity do
- 26:12you even know what God is really like do
- 26:18you want to know this is what God is
- 26:20really like this is His mercy
- 26:26now give him a break
- 26:35now many of the people that would
- 26:37Minister healing would lay hands on the
- 26:39sick or have a word of prophecy or
- 26:40something but Kathryn Kuhlman work
- 26:42mainly with the word of knowledge and
- 26:44the presence of God she interpreted what
- 26:47God was doing in the room helping people
- 26:49to respond to it or cooperate with it
- 26:51better a great person right now with a
- 26:54spinal condition I don't know what it is
- 26:56stand to your feet for just a second
- 26:58stand to your feet every person with a
- 27:00spinal condition just stand to your feet
- 27:05step out in the aisle don't wait for the
- 27:07Holy Spirit is moving that quickly step
- 27:09out on the island bend over do what you
- 27:12could not have done just bent over the
- 27:13very second you find that you've been
- 27:15healed come up here on either side come
- 27:19to Papa be sure that you yield be bit
- 27:21give it every test don't do not come up
- 27:26until after you've been healed come very
- 27:28quickly if you will be the ruptured disc
- 27:31somebody do not come up until after
- 27:33you've been healed just step out right
- 27:34now you've been coming rockers moves
- 27:36quickly just as quickly as you can from
- 27:39all over the great arena I don't go
- 27:41wearing it from the way up to the very
- 27:43top step on down just as good as you can
- 27:46what is this over here ah these yours
- 27:52bend over right now just bend over
- 27:58she would come on stage after pacing
- 28:01back and forth behind the curtain the
- 28:03music would be going and she'd be going
- 28:05through what she called a thousand
- 28:07deaths but when Kathryn Kuhlman would it
- 28:09be herself so that she could be used
- 28:10more fully by the Holy Spirit to help
- 28:13the lost and the sick because she knew
- 28:14better than anybody else she said that
- 28:17this was some people's the last hope and
- 28:19she wanted to make sure that she did
- 28:20everything she could to give them their
- 28:22chance to get healed and the connection
- 28:25with God and when she felt like she was
- 28:27at that point she'd come out from behind
- 28:28the stage and walk so rapidly to the
- 28:30middle that her in her white dress it
- 28:32looked like she was floating across the
- 28:34stage then she would talk to the crowd a
- 28:36little bit and she'd tell them about her
- 28:38friend the Holy Spirit and she didn't
- 28:41want her friend the Holy Spirit to leave
- 28:42because she could do nothing without him
- 28:44and she'd beg the crowd many times don't
- 28:47hurt him don't grieve him don't quench
- 28:49the spirit because if he leaves I can do
- 28:52nothing and I know that'll be what a
- 28:54very first thing is the news media will
- 28:56question me about after the speech
- 28:58service is the sling power of the Holy
- 29:01Spirit and you'll try to attribute it to
- 29:04Kathryn Kuhlman her touch or you'll say
- 29:10she as she made hand upon them it is not
- 29:15truth you'll find people all over this
- 29:19great auditorium who be slain by the
- 29:25cargo hula goes far out of my sight with
- 29:27no one touching them whatsoever
- 29:33I have no healing virtue I have no
- 29:38healing power don't try to reach out and
- 29:43touch me don't beg for my touch under
- 29:49any circumstances reach up and touch him
- 29:53he's the one she was so dependent upon
- 29:56the Holy Spirit and she was also so
- 29:58reverent about giving God all the glory
- 30:01for everything that happened in the
- 30:03service that people could see in the
- 30:06heart where nobody could see but the
- 30:07person could feel it
- 30:08miss cumin was in love with for the
- 30:11father the son of the Holy Spirit and
- 30:13love being than a handmaiden of the Lord
- 30:29this don't all today the only
- 30:34restraining post-sex left in the world
- 30:36today for good is the power of the holy
- 30:39spirit that's the only straining power
- 30:43there is I don't want to be here one in
- 30:47five minutes that the Holy Spirit is
- 30:48because I hate my brother I wouldn't
- 30:51want to be here one five minutes after
- 30:54the Holy Ghost has been taken out he is
- 30:58only restraining force in this world
- 31:02today I think what's going to be like
- 31:10when the Holy Spirit is take it out when
- 31:14Jesus Christ came to this earth in the
- 31:18form of flesh this mighty third person
- 31:27the Trinity I will always because he
- 31:31knew he would be as much man as or even
- 31:34out God he knew he would stand face to
- 31:37face with temptation he knew the outcome
- 31:40when he'd stand face to face with the
- 31:43ego
- 31:47and we floating went away the only last
- 31:50thing that he did he made provision that
- 31:54you and I should not be defeated on a
- 31:56single score if you're a part of this
- 32:00big body of believers you do not have to
- 32:03go double EDP oh what a split second I
- 32:10have to go down in defeat don't wanna
- 32:14spit second
- 32:18errors of gourmet John Garrett with
- 32:20Christ Jesus in this great auditorium
- 32:28greater is he that is within us then he
- 32:32that is in the world
- 32:43No
- 32:50so you're normal that's wonderful
- 32:53fellowship of Holy Spirit do you really
- 32:58know what it means all I know there's a
- 33:01great ecstasy a being filled with the
- 33:05Holy Spirit I know we're in a great
- 33:09charismatic world convention here today
- 33:14you have great moments of ecstasy I
- 33:18deliver their great of experience of
- 33:21emotion in their life then when you
- 33:23receive the baptism of the Spirit that's
- 33:26marvelous my friend you know the
- 33:35experience
- 33:38of having used it your wheel to the
- 33:42wheel of the bar
- 33:52not some of self in some V but none of
- 33:59self and/or
- 34:06I feel that glorious of anointing of the
- 34:10Holy Ghost that provision that he has
- 34:12paid for every one of these children
- 34:15when you take the most ordinary he
- 34:20doesn't ask for golden vessels he
- 34:22doesn't ask for silver vessels he asks
- 34:25for weeded vessels you take the most
- 34:31ordinary person
- 34:32I will tell who that one might be give
- 34:40you a wind the wisdom man's under
- 34:51Hey
- 35:04stand alone arrayed against all the
- 35:10forces of hell and finger like a giant
- 35:21not to make over their own strength
- 35:24[Music]
- 35:28but because you are growing on unseen
- 35:35resources
- 35:40I haven't been speaking to you about
- 35:41something as imaginary I've been
- 35:45speaking to you about something that's
- 35:47the most real thing that can happen to
- 35:51any individual
- 35:56I was in one of her services her I saw
- 35:59my second miracle in my life the first
- 36:02miracle I saw was in a Jeremy Walker
- 36:04meeting the second one was in a Kathryn
- 36:06Kuhlman meeting now to me the Kathryn
- 36:09Kuhlman meeting was not powerful because
- 36:11of what you saw even though that was
- 36:13great what you felt was the most
- 36:15powerful thing to me because when this
- 36:17Kuhlman came on that stage you could
- 36:19feel a tangible as' of God's presence
- 36:22whereas the Old Testament called the
- 36:24Shekinah glory it came like fig jelly on
- 36:27your face and you could feel it like
- 36:28weight on your shoulders and it didn't
- 36:30do like this in the service it came and
- 36:33it he kept growing steadily and you'd be
- 36:35in that service for three four sometimes
- 36:37five hours and you'd wake up thinking is
- 36:40it over and you've been there that many
- 36:42hours most folks can't wait for the
- 36:44preacher to get done in 20 minutes and
- 36:45you'll be with her for three four and
- 36:47sometimes five hours I remember at the
- 36:51toss of maybe Center when I saw Miss
- 36:53Kuhlman there was Catholic nuns that
- 36:55came in pushing a woman in a wheelchair
- 36:58was another nun and her arms were and
- 37:01hands were like this around her chest I
- 37:03assumed because she was in a wheelchair
- 37:05that her legs were not working properly
- 37:07and maybe deform in some way but I
- 37:09didn't see them I only saw her arms and
- 37:11her fingers and her wrists and the
- 37:14service began and you know nothing
- 37:17spectacular had happened and all of a
- 37:20sudden was coonley in to call out
- 37:22miracles someone's being healed of
- 37:24deafness here or someone's heart problem
- 37:26here and she just said there's something
- 37:28happened in the wheelchair section and
- 37:30then she just went on to do something
- 37:32else in the service I saw that little
- 37:35crippled nun nobody touched her no one
- 37:38spoke to her directly all of a sudden
- 37:41her wrists begin to move slowly like
- 37:43this and the little nuns that a broader
- 37:45jump down beside the wheelchair and
- 37:47pulled out their prayer beads and I
- 37:48guess they were praying or something
- 37:50that was new to me as a little boy I was
- 37:52raised Pentecostal so they hold Catholic
- 37:54faith and how they worship was was all
- 37:56new so that was strange to me but I
- 37:58still remember them getting on their
- 38:00knees and pull out little prayer beads
- 38:01now that I know they were prayer beans
- 38:03and
- 38:04the wrists begin to move like this and
- 38:06then something really unusual happen
- 38:08each finger begin to pop like this until
- 38:11all 10 were like that and when all 10
- 38:14fingers were like that then you could
- 38:16begin to hear her bones pop and crack as
- 38:18something or someone invisible begin to
- 38:22pull and their arms were totally
- 38:23stretched out like this and perfectly
- 38:25normal and then she stood up and the
- 38:29nuns around her stood up behind her
- 38:30trying to catch her if she was gonna
- 38:32fall and she beginning to wobble and
- 38:34walk a little bit and took about three
- 38:36or four steps and then she began to walk
- 38:38normal but her arms ever came down and
- 38:40she walked around the total bottom of
- 38:42the auditorium and Catherine and halfway
- 38:44through begin to say come up here and
- 38:46she can't walk in and get walking and
- 38:47finally they got the nuns to come on the
- 38:49platform and when the lady in her arms
- 38:51are still out was walking around the
- 38:53platform and Catherine couldn't get her
- 38:55to stop to talk to her so she talked to
- 38:56the other nuns and finally the lady
- 38:58walked off the stage and she was
- 39:00perfectly healed that was a miracle
- 39:02service that I saw with my own eyes that
- 39:04God did in Kathryn Kuhlman now I've seen
- 39:07a lot of pick a lot of preachers a lot
- 39:09of films of great preachers but I've
- 39:11never seen anybody like Kathryn Kuhlman
- 39:13we're about to go to another clip I
- 39:15guess the best way for you to enjoy is
- 39:17for you to hear her for yourself and
- 39:19know that what God did to through her
- 39:21and God did for her he can do for you -
- 39:24[Applause]
- 39:36you mean this is
- 39:43[Applause]
- 39:47this is the most beautiful shot I would
- 39:55have come to Las Vegas just for the
- 39:57healing of this youngster how old are
- 40:00you honey
- 40:02tell the people jar what's your name I
- 40:07want you to see this little wheelchair
- 40:10look this little wheelchair but made for
- 40:15a little 11 year old boy rheumatoid
- 40:20arthritis
- 40:21this is grandmother the grandmother who
- 40:25brought him remembered walk across the
- 40:29stage honey walk across there
- 40:33[Applause]
- 40:40if you want to see a beautiful face if
- 40:44you want to see a beautiful Icarus file
- 40:46in this face
- 40:47here's his wheelchair how many feel like
- 40:50is all worthwhile
- 40:51what about him look at his realty like a
- 40:56smile on his face you can't doubt this
- 41:01smile you can't doubt this smile and
- 41:05Grandma broader what do you live here in
- 41:11Vegas where do you people go to church
- 41:17First Baptist Church pick him up real
- 41:24high walk again he come up real high
- 41:26steel higher steel higher look all you
- 41:33have to do is to exercise you that's all
- 41:36on earth that yeah look at face there's
- 41:40nothing hurt doesn't it hurt you mean it
- 41:43doesn't hurt okay take your in the
- 41:46wheelchair you push it honey go on there
- 41:49he goes there we go don't thank me I
- 41:55there we go give them a great big God
- 41:58[Applause]
- 42:04and we vow to give you the praise we
- 42:09vowed to give you the blow it's not my
- 42:13mind it's not my power but it's by my
- 42:16spirit
- 42:17pull down the aisle honey I wanna go
- 42:19down this main aisle turn around turn
- 42:22around put your old wheelchair honey
- 42:26there's this holy ground Oh God I wanna
- 42:32see you're riding your bike
- 42:33tomorrow tomorrow you'll be riding
- 42:36bicycle paralyzed came from Denver
- 42:42totally paralyzed on this side no
- 42:43feeling and her sons with her she just
- 42:47got out of a hospital and you did you
- 42:50fly in from Denver yes other people what
- 42:53we just flew in yesterday morning and my
- 43:00mother had a stroke in June of 72 and
- 43:03I've gotta tell you something this is a
- 43:05confirmation because I'm a flight
- 43:07attendant for United Airlines and I
- 43:09graduated and went to New York and I
- 43:12caught home and talked to my father and
- 43:14he said that she had a complete stroke
- 43:16and they didn't know what the she was
- 43:17gonna live or die and my first OJT
- 43:20flight was to Las Vegas the next day the
- 43:24next day it was to Las Vegas and I said
- 43:27oh Lord
- 43:27and it was a brand new I wasn't even a
- 43:30Christian and I just prayed that the
- 43:32Lord would heal her and when we believed
- 43:34it and we felt led to come and and my
- 43:37mother's had paralysis on the right side
- 43:39she just got out of Swedish Hospital in
- 43:41Denver and had over $3,000 worth of
- 43:44medical tests run on her a week and a
- 43:46half ago and the doctors had to be on
- 43:48medication the rest of her life and
- 43:51she's
- 43:55[Applause]
- 44:01[Music]
- 44:03pick up your lips pick up your legs pick
- 44:07up your legs you can't open your hand
- 44:11she could never squeeze me this hard
- 44:13before her in the right hand oh yeah are
- 44:15you sure this is your mother did you
- 44:21expect all this to happen oh well I kept
- 44:24I didn't know if I had
- 44:30[Applause]
- 44:32that my friend is the power of God
- 44:36that's true for the old skeptic that I
- 44:39didn't push her down
- 44:43this is the power of God in this place
- 44:46oh honey don't forget again you forget
- 44:49about the way nobody cares
- 44:56like a wig who cares
- 44:58honey look at this this is really that's
- 45:03all right honey that's beautiful
- 45:06that's beautiful that's all right in a
- 45:11few minutes I'll take it off and try it
- 45:13on myself and see how I get it
- 45:17Kathryn Kuhlman's life ended in 1976 I
- 45:20remember the day that she died I turned
- 45:23on the television and the news was on
- 45:24and the first news item was Kathryn
- 45:28Kuhlman had died it was a sad day when
- 45:30one of these great people dying and go
- 45:33on to heaven because we missed them we
- 45:35missed their anointing we missed their
- 45:37gift but I want to tell you how she died
- 45:39because I think it's a very interesting
- 45:40story miss Cullen had a heart problem
- 45:43throughout most of her life that's one
- 45:45reason why she talked kind of over
- 45:47pronounce eiated her words if it was the
- 45:49Holy Spirit in God you know if you don't
- 45:52you heard her just a few moments ago
- 45:53part of that was because her heart was
- 45:56the size of two fists when she died
- 45:57instead of one which is the natural size
- 45:59of a heart and so she collapsed in Los
- 46:02Angeles at the Shrine Auditorium and
- 46:04before she had her last service this is
- 46:07what carking Pearson told me he was her
- 46:09guest soloist at that service and she
- 46:12normally paced back and forth before the
- 46:14service as I told you before in 'then
- 46:17yourself so she'd get ready to minister
- 46:19to the people and this time is it a
- 46:21patient she was holding onto the curtain
- 46:22because she was so frail Carlton said
- 46:25that you could see her heartbeat through
- 46:26her white dress because she was so thin
- 46:29and so frail and he didn't know if she
- 46:31if he should go up to her and hold her
- 46:33up or stay away because the rule was
- 46:35when she was in this time of a prayer no
- 46:38one talked to her no one touched her no
- 46:40one asked her a question but because of
- 46:42this physical condition he was concerned
- 46:44so he closed his eyes and thinking Lord
- 46:47what should I do when he opened his eyes
- 46:48back up she was gone and out on the
- 46:50stage the power got to come on her and
- 46:53given her last request her last request
- 46:55was let me have lean on him one more
- 46:58time
- 46:58for this service she walked out and did
- 47:01a three to four hour miracle service
- 47:03came back behind the curtain and
- 47:05collapsed never to stand up again to say
- 47:08the great words I believe in miracles
- 47:10because I believe in God to the vast
- 47:11crowds they took her to the hospital and
- 47:14then from there they flew her in a
- 47:15private plane from Los Angeles to
- 47:17Oklahoma in the city of Tulsa at that
- 47:19time they have one of the best heart
- 47:21sinners in the country and they did
- 47:23open-heart surgery on her and so she was
- 47:26in recovery and the secretary mr.
- 47:28Coleman called Oral Roberts to come and
- 47:31pray for her
- 47:31all on Emma Roberts headquarters were in
- 47:33Tulsa Oklahoma
- 47:34I asked oral one time what was it like
- 47:37the day you went to Kathryn Kuhlman's
- 47:39room to pray for her and Evelyn had just
- 47:41finished the meal and walked into the
- 47:42kitchen and sat down beside me so I got
- 47:44everyone's rendition and all's rendition
- 47:47of what happened when they went to pray
- 47:48for Kathryn Kuhlman they walk into the
- 47:50room they said and she looked very fair
- 47:53pale and frail and the oral said I was
- 47:56present and I knew that the Lord's power
- 47:59was present there also to heal her I was
- 48:03aware that it was there I felt it in my
- 48:05hands he's unfamiliar with the anointing
- 48:08to hear because I prayed for millions of
- 48:10people and I've seen thousands of them
- 48:11healed so I reached out to pray for her
- 48:14and I closed my eyes and Evelyn's that's
- 48:16when I grabbed your arm oil and I shook
- 48:19orals arm and said look cuz all all did
- 48:23not see that Kathryn had put up a finger
- 48:25and did this and because he could not
- 48:27talk she could not have enough energy to
- 48:29utter word so she had enough energy to
- 48:32raise her hand and her finger and did
- 48:34this and did this and Evelyn said all I
- 48:39think she wants to go to heaven so oral
- 48:42turned to Kathryn and said Kathryn do
- 48:44you want to be healed or do you want to
- 48:45go to heaven and he said that she put
- 48:48her finger back up and this went like
- 48:50that which meant she wanted to go to
- 48:52heaven so all on Evelyn laid hands on
- 48:54her very gently and ask the Lord to
- 48:57grant that request that miss Cullen had
- 48:59run her course and had done a great job
- 49:00with her ministry and representing the
- 49:03healing ministry to millions of people
- 49:05around the world and in just a few days
- 49:07Kathryn Kuhlman but leave her body and
- 49:09make her entrance into heaven I want to
- 49:12end this show with my favorite quote of
- 49:14Kathryn Kuhlman
- 49:15one of the reporters one time asked her
- 49:17what are you going to say when you've
- 49:19seen Jesus for the first time and she
- 49:21stopped and you never watched her very
- 49:23much she would killed her head sometimes
- 49:25when she'd become very personable she
- 49:27said I know exactly what I'm gonna say
- 49:29when I finally seen face to face I want
- 49:33to say dear Jesus I tried I did the best
- 49:37that I knew how and I think when she
- 49:40went to heaven and she saw Jesus for the
- 49:42very first time that's exactly what she
- 49:44said
- 49:54[Music]
- 49:58Oh
- 50:04in here they can't come up and they come
- 50:16from the balconies they come in the
- 50:18bleachers
- 50:23[Music]
- 50:29and the word sitting he must be born
- 50:31again he must be born again human come
- 50:38upon to be I will in no wise cast that
- 50:41and they come and steal they come
- 50:44standard with your eyes closed in your
- 50:47heads uplifted unashamedly but audibly
- 50:53say dear Jesus
- 51:01forgive my sins Katie justified
- 51:08I'd give myself to you
- 51:12the spirit for Jesus
- 51:25[Music]
- 51:44[Music]
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