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God's Generals Series - Kathryn Kuhlman — Transcript

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  1. 0:01[Music]
  2. 0:08every Sunday morning on television and
  3. 0:10throughout the week on radio thousands
  4. 0:13of people heard this woman say I believe
  5. 0:15in miracles because I believe in God her
  6. 0:18name was Katherine Kuhlman had come by
  7. 0:20the thousands to her miracle services
  8. 0:22they'd pack out the auditoriums in less
  9. 0:24than an hour with thousands on the
  10. 0:26outside still trying to get in this week
  11. 0:28we're gonna discuss the life in the
  12. 0:30ministry of this great and wonderful
  13. 0:31woman she happens to be my favorite of
  14. 0:33all the journals I've ever studied it's
  15. 0:35Kathryn Kuhlman I'm Roberts lerton and
  16. 0:37this is God's General's
  17. 0:39[Music]
  18. 0:52some of God's great generals come from
  19. 0:55the most unusual backgrounds the woman
  20. 0:57we're talking about the day is happens
  21. 0:59to be my favorite it's Kathryn Kuhlman
  22. 1:01she's my favorite for two reasons one I
  23. 1:03saw her three times as a little boy
  24. 1:06growing up and then also reading all of
  25. 1:08her sermons and her radio broadcasts
  26. 1:11that I bought and listened to over the
  27. 1:12years has really made me fall in love
  28. 1:14with Alma named Kathryn Kuhlman like I
  29. 1:17said in the intro thousands of people
  30. 1:19every Sunday morning turned on their
  31. 1:22televisions as they were getting ready
  32. 1:23for church or just waking up from a bad
  33. 1:24Saturday night to see a redhead a woman
  34. 1:27say I believe in miracles because I
  35. 1:29believe in God I have next to me an
  36. 1:32empty wheelchair which is probably the
  37. 1:34greatest symbol of a Kathryn Kuhlman
  38. 1:36miracle service because in her services
  39. 1:38people come out of the wheelchairs where
  40. 1:40they were believing in for miracles or
  41. 1:42not in one thing get very clear and that
  42. 1:46is a Kathryn Kuhlman has nothing to do
  43. 1:48with these miracles please get that
  44. 1:50straight and call me anything I don't
  45. 1:52care what they call me
  46. 1:54but don't call me a faith healer
  47. 1:55whatever you do because I resent that
  48. 1:58very much because I am NOT a faith
  49. 2:01healer and always you know I'm referred
  50. 2:04to as a faith healer
  51. 2:05I've never healed anyone I have no
  52. 2:08heating power I have no healing virtue
  53. 2:10and it's so simple that's the reason
  54. 2:15that people miss it it's still God they
  55. 2:18forget that the greatest force in the
  56. 2:20world and the greatest power in the
  57. 2:21world
  58. 2:22is God I'm not a psychic healer don't
  59. 2:29put me in the category of a psychic
  60. 2:31healer these healings are not a matter
  61. 2:34of mind over matter it's simply the
  62. 2:38power of God is that simple if you're
  63. 2:42going to get people to understand it
  64. 2:44somebody else have a question you see
  65. 2:48how simple and easy it is her life began
  66. 2:50in a small town in Missouri called a
  67. 2:53crossroads town called Concordia
  68. 2:55Missouri you blink your eyes too fast as
  69. 2:58you're driving through you'll miss it
  70. 2:59the only great thing that ever happened
  71. 3:02in Corey was Kathleen Coleman
  72. 3:03her father became mayor of the town her
  73. 3:06mother and father went to two different
  74. 3:07churches one was Baptists and one was
  75. 3:09Methodist so Kathryn Kuhlman had to make
  76. 3:12a choice who she want to go to church
  77. 3:13with on that Sunday and would go either
  78. 3:16with her mom or her dad and that's how
  79. 3:18Kathryn grew up she'd go around town
  80. 3:20with her dad and everybody knew her
  81. 3:22father and begin to know her too as the
  82. 3:24atomic dual that would walk around town
  83. 3:26because Kathryn adore her father that's
  84. 3:29for the one reason why she had such a
  85. 3:31love for her Heavenly Father and had
  86. 3:33said she ate warm relationship that you
  87. 3:35could see when you'd see her speak on TV
  88. 3:37or in a miracle service Kathryn
  89. 3:39Kuhlman's life was not one that we'd say
  90. 3:42in the beginning was eventful she didn't
  91. 3:44finish high school
  92. 3:45her sister married a healing evangelist
  93. 3:48named parent that was his last name and
  94. 3:50so as they would travel around the
  95. 3:52country with their small Gospel tint
  96. 3:54they eventually found out that he needed
  97. 3:56some help to take care of the kids so
  98. 3:58Catherine's sister called magma
  99. 3:59Concordia and asked her mom and dad and
  100. 4:02then eventually asked Kathryn would
  101. 4:03Katherine come out and travel with him
  102. 4:06and take care of the children while they
  103. 4:07were doing the hitting Crusades so mom
  104. 4:11and dad agreed and Kathryn agreed so
  105. 4:13Kathryn packed her little bag and head
  106. 4:15out to be with her sister and
  107. 4:16brother-in-law and begin to be the nanny
  108. 4:18for the children and would sit in the
  109. 4:20meetings every night now her
  110. 4:22brother-in-law
  111. 4:22had a great healing ministry and one of
  112. 4:24the great things about his ministry was
  113. 4:26that when he began to worship God or
  114. 4:28begin to pray for people they would
  115. 4:29sought out under the power now remember
  116. 4:31in today's world that you and I live in
  117. 4:33being slain in the spirit is quite
  118. 4:35normal there is the real folks who fall
  119. 4:38becuase the power becomes on them so
  120. 4:40strongly others fall because everybody
  121. 4:42else falls and there's what I jokingly
  122. 4:44call the courtesy fall you just fall
  123. 4:45because you want to fall but back in
  124. 4:47those days you fell because God really
  125. 4:49came on you in a strong way and
  126. 4:51short-circuit your ability to stand and
  127. 4:52out you would go but after a period of
  128. 4:55months they were discovered that they
  129. 4:56couldn't afford to keep Kathryn with him
  130. 4:58and so they were gonna send Kathryn back
  131. 5:00to Concordia to home and maybe to finish
  132. 5:03school but Kathryn didn't want to go to
  133. 5:05Concordia
  134. 5:06it was a small little town she'd already
  135. 5:08maxed out all of the chick who was gonna
  136. 5:09do there and she didn't want to go back
  137. 5:11there and be born so instead of going
  138. 5:13back to
  139. 5:14gordium once and when it was time for
  140. 5:16her to leave she decided I want to start
  141. 5:18my ministry so Catherine as a teenage
  142. 5:21preacher begin to preach and she said I
  143. 5:23didn't know much all I knew was
  144. 5:25salvation so I'd preach salvation every
  145. 5:28night and ask people to get sane and
  146. 5:30then someone gets saved me come back the
  147. 5:32next night they get saved again and then
  148. 5:34the third night to get same again she
  149. 5:35said I kept making it save every night
  150. 5:37because that's all I knew
  151. 5:39you can only preach what you know and in
  152. 5:41those days Katherine couldn't only knew
  153. 5:42about being born again but she didn't
  154. 5:45have big crowds she would go out and
  155. 5:46teach and preach in or one-room
  156. 5:48schoolhouses she'd clean up turkey
  157. 5:50houses and chicken houses and sometimes
  158. 5:53sleeping in and preach in the same
  159. 5:54building at nighttime and that's how
  160. 5:56Kathryn Kuhlman began her ministry and
  161. 5:58as she began to travel around the
  162. 6:01country
  163. 6:01she finally end up in Denver Colorado in
  164. 6:03Denver Colorado her revival meetings
  165. 6:06were so successful that she decided to
  166. 6:08build a church and she built a church of
  167. 6:102,000 people and it became the best
  168. 6:12Church in town and you're on the
  169. 6:14traveling ministry circuit you had to
  170. 6:16make sure that you went through dinner
  171. 6:17you had to go to the Kuhlman Church
  172. 6:18because it was the best Church in town
  173. 6:20Raymond T Richard preached there others
  174. 6:22who preached there there come a man that
  175. 6:24would eventually change her life being
  176. 6:26Burroughs Waltrip but before we get into
  177. 6:28that part of our life story I want to
  178. 6:29stop just for a moment now I want you to
  179. 6:32go hear my favorite in general Kathleen
  180. 6:34Coleman speak to one of our miracle
  181. 6:35services you see I can only give you my
  182. 6:42own personal experience no one can give
  183. 6:46to anyone else any more than they've
  184. 6:48experienced themselves always remember
  185. 6:49that and just in a very simple way I'll
  186. 6:55give you my own personal experience
  187. 6:57regarding the Holy Spirit
  188. 7:02my first my very first association with
  189. 7:10the holy spirit within a burglar
  190. 7:14Methodist Church in Concordia Missouri
  191. 7:17if only you could know from whence I've
  192. 7:19come
  193. 7:21Concordia I don't think is on the map
  194. 7:24it's a small not more than 1200
  195. 7:28population
  196. 7:30mama was Methodist papa was Baptists
  197. 7:35neither one worked too hard at it and
  198. 7:41one Sunday morning and it says real to
  199. 7:47me this was my very first contact with
  200. 7:49the Holy Spirit and I didn't realize it
  201. 7:53one Sunday morning sitting with Mama in
  202. 7:58that little Methodist Church I don't
  203. 8:02think the church holds any more than a
  204. 8:04hundred people we were sitting there it
  205. 8:13was time for the last song and I was
  206. 8:16holding the old-fashioned Methodist
  207. 8:18hymnal whether anyone has ever been
  208. 8:22converted in that church before us since
  209. 8:24I'll never know but when the last song
  210. 8:30was being sung and I was holding that
  211. 8:32old-fashioned Methodist hymnal in my
  212. 8:34hand I was only 14 years of age
  213. 8:37something happened to me I cannot tell
  214. 8:42you one word the preacher said and not
  215. 8:44one but I only know that in that a
  216. 8:50moment the Holy Spirit came upon me I
  217. 8:54did not recognize I did not even know
  218. 8:57there was such a thing as the Holy
  219. 8:58Spirit and I began to shake I began to
  220. 9:05tremble
  221. 9:09so much so I had to leave him no down in
  222. 9:13the pew and I knew I had to do something
  223. 9:18I saw myself as I really was a sinner in
  224. 9:22the sight of God and I did something I'd
  225. 9:25laid that him load on and I did the only
  226. 9:27thing that I knew what to do I'd seen
  227. 9:29them picking church members and I
  228. 9:31slipped forward and sat down in the
  229. 9:35first pew right in the corner and
  230. 9:36whipped this was my conversion this was
  231. 9:41my first contact with the Holy Spirit I
  232. 9:45began to weep and I remember one of the
  233. 9:47old sisters came to me and brought me a
  234. 9:49handkerchief she said old Katherine she
  235. 9:51says don't cry you and I both know that
  236. 9:54you've been such a good little girl we
  237. 9:56both knew she was lying but in that
  238. 10:01moment something happened to me that was
  239. 10:05the new birth experience and it was so
  240. 10:08real that I've never doubted it since
  241. 10:11never
  242. 10:12I believe that when you're really born
  243. 10:17again there's a definite place of the
  244. 10:19definite time and you know it and his
  245. 10:24spirit the Holy Spirit will bear with us
  246. 10:26with your spirit the job has from death
  247. 10:30and the life and it's been that
  248. 10:33spiritual experience it's been my new
  249. 10:36birth experience has been so real but in
  250. 10:39that moment I had my first contact with
  251. 10:42the Holy Ghost
  252. 10:45she was passion her great church in
  253. 10:47Denver Colorado she had a guest speaker
  254. 10:49one night named burrows Waltrip he
  255. 10:52stayed over and kept doing meetings
  256. 10:53would come back several different
  257. 10:55occasions and a long story short he
  258. 10:58asked her to marry him everybody warned
  259. 11:00Katharine don't marry him don't do this
  260. 11:03don't do this people called people drove
  261. 11:05her friends told her not to but Kathryn
  262. 11:08Kuhlman ahead and married burles Waltrip
  263. 11:10in Iowa he had a ministry over there
  264. 11:12called a radio chapel in those days the
  265. 11:14radio ministry was the dominant ministry
  266. 11:16of the scene and so even during the
  267. 11:19wedding ceremony something strange
  268. 11:21happened she fainted during the way
  269. 11:23ceremony and they had to revive her
  270. 11:25swear she can come up and say yes to her
  271. 11:27vows but she did come back and say yes
  272. 11:29when they finished all of the the
  273. 11:31wedding celebrations they got on the car
  274. 11:34and drove back to the hotel with some
  275. 11:35friends to change clothes to start their
  276. 11:37honeymoon trip and before her new hubby
  277. 11:40could turn off the car she jumped out of
  278. 11:42the car rented the room of one of her
  279. 11:44friends in the hotel crying saying I've
  280. 11:46made a mistake what am I going to do and
  281. 11:48while she was in there talking to her
  282. 11:50friend and crying her husband knocked on
  283. 11:52the door - Catherine where are you come
  284. 11:54on let's go she stopped crying pulled
  285. 11:57herself together and begin the journey
  286. 11:58into her wilderness years she begin the
  287. 12:01journey of trying to figure out how do I
  288. 12:03fix this big mistake that I made in the
  289. 12:06life of Kathryn Kuhlman this is probably
  290. 12:08the greatest challenge that she faced
  291. 12:10she went into this marriage hoping that
  292. 12:13it was the real thing but pretty soon he
  293. 12:16wouldn't allow her to preach there are
  294. 12:18people that I've interviewed that saw
  295. 12:19her sitting on the stage why preach and
  296. 12:21she'd be crying and they thought she was
  297. 12:22being blessed by the anointing but what
  298. 12:24she was probably doing was crying going
  299. 12:26how do I get out of the mess that I'm in
  300. 12:29they finally moved to Los Angeles
  301. 12:30California where she went to a McPherson
  302. 12:33Bible School didn't graduate didn't even
  303. 12:35finish a whole semester but I've seen
  304. 12:37her name on the the book where she
  305. 12:39registered to be a part of it that
  306. 12:41didn't work for her finally one day she
  307. 12:43walked to a dead-end street in Los
  308. 12:45Angeles California this was a defining
  309. 12:47moment in Kathryn Kuhlman's life every
  310. 12:50one of us has these moments nobody else
  311. 12:52understands him but that individual
  312. 12:54understands him she walked to a dead-end
  313. 12:56street and she was crying and she looked
  314. 12:59up to heaven and she says God I have
  315. 13:00nothing left but my love for you
  316. 13:13it
  317. 13:15[Music]
  318. 13:17every
  319. 13:21if you really want to know the price
  320. 13:27you're really right I'll tell you
  321. 13:34it'll cost you everything
  322. 13:40captain Pullman died a long time ago
  323. 13:46I know the day I know the hour I can go
  324. 13:52to the spot
  325. 13:55we're Catherine Combe he died
  326. 13:58[Music]
  327. 14:03but could see
  328. 14:07for me it was easy
  329. 14:13because I had nothing
  330. 14:17I know better than anyone else from wins
  331. 14:19I've come from a little crossroads town
  332. 14:24in Missouri with a population of 1,200
  333. 14:28people
  334. 14:35I had nothing
  335. 14:38I was born without talent
  336. 14:44most people are born with something
  337. 14:48[Music]
  338. 14:52I didn't even have hair on my head when
  339. 14:54I was born just read fudge
  340. 15:03[Applause]
  341. 15:08[Music]
  342. 15:09one day
  343. 15:12I just looked up and said wonderful
  344. 15:15jeans
  345. 15:18I have
  346. 15:21I have nothing to give you but my love
  347. 15:25[Music]
  348. 15:26but all that I can give you and I love
  349. 15:32you with all my heart and I give you my
  350. 15:38book what is the living sacrifice
  351. 15:44if you can take nothing and use it then
  352. 15:48here's nothing
  353. 15:54it isn't silver petrol they keep asking
  354. 15:57for it isn't golden vessels sitting me
  355. 16:02he just need to Kathryn Kuhlman turned
  356. 16:08around went home packed her bags and
  357. 16:11called him into that marriage but began
  358. 16:13her journey back into her hi Colleen
  359. 16:15miss Cullen's life is a story of the god
  360. 16:19of a second chance
  361. 16:20so many times we only think of Miss
  362. 16:22Kuhlman as the great lady that wore the
  363. 16:23white dress and the big crowds and the
  364. 16:26empty wheelchairs and the miracles and
  365. 16:27that is a great part of her life but
  366. 16:29that was only the last 10 to 15 years of
  367. 16:32her life this part of her life was her
  368. 16:34journey back her journey back in
  369. 16:36ministry was was coupled with I think
  370. 16:39lots of Tears lots of heartache lots of
  371. 16:42fears she'd go places to preach and the
  372. 16:45pastor that invited her would hear about
  373. 16:47her divorce and closed her meeting down
  374. 16:48the worst case that I read about of this
  375. 16:51kind of situation happening to her was
  376. 16:53one time she was in the southern part of
  377. 16:54America had about 1,500 to 2,000 people
  378. 16:58if she was preaching and right in the
  379. 17:00middle of her preaching the pastor walk
  380. 17:01to the stage took the microphone away
  381. 17:03from her how the ashes esker all
  382. 17:05apologized to the crowd for having a
  383. 17:08false prophet as come and speak to them
  384. 17:09the ushers took her to her hotel room
  385. 17:12made her pack her bags put her on the
  386. 17:14bus and made her leave town there are
  387. 17:16being a million nights she would leave
  388. 17:18town crying in disgrace but she had
  389. 17:21determined that dead-end street the day
  390. 17:24that Kathryn Kuhlman died that she'd
  391. 17:26never turned back she'd give her life to
  392. 17:27God she'd fighting the cause of Christ
  393. 17:30and she'd serve Him
  394. 17:31to the end of her days she's about to
  395. 17:33have a great happening in her life she
  396. 17:35goes up to the Ohio Pennsylvania area
  397. 17:39and finds a little church to ask her for
  398. 17:41a meeting she doesn't mean and then at
  399. 17:44the end of it there were such good
  400. 17:45results of people getting saved and then
  401. 17:47local people love this redheaded woman
  402. 17:49named Katherine Kuhlman that they had a
  403. 17:51secret meeting that night after church
  404. 17:53and they voted that Bailey decided that
  405. 17:56she would be their pastor so the next
  406. 17:58morning they came to greet her all happy
  407. 18:00and excited she couldn't quite figure
  408. 18:02out why they were so excited because the
  409. 18:04amount of joy they were expressing
  410. 18:07not seem to go with the meetings and
  411. 18:08bless not even though they were good and
  412. 18:09they said last night we prayed and we
  413. 18:12voted and you're our new pastor we now
  414. 18:15welcome you as a pastor of this church
  415. 18:16and we're glad that you're going to take
  416. 18:18it in this coming ghost no no no I can't
  417. 18:22be your pastor so they go back and forth
  418. 18:24back and forth to this type of dialog
  419. 18:26and finally she tells him why they don't
  420. 18:28want her to be their pastor she stops
  421. 18:31and quietly says the reason why is
  422. 18:34because I'm divorced you don't want a
  423. 18:36divorcee to be your pastor and they go
  424. 18:39and I love this little group they go
  425. 18:41well we don't know about that Kathryn we
  426. 18:44don't know about what happened in that
  427. 18:45Katherine's life but we know this
  428. 18:47Kathryn and this Kathryn Kuhlman we want
  429. 18:50and this Kathryn Kuhlman we have voted
  430. 18:52and we have prayed and God told us you
  431. 18:55are our pastor will you please accept
  432. 18:57God's will and our acceptance and be our
  433. 18:59pastor and when they made that kind of
  434. 19:02compassionate statement to miss Cullen
  435. 19:04her heart could relax she could settle
  436. 19:07back and come into her own with this
  437. 19:10little group that loved her and didn't
  438. 19:12judge her on her past mistakes
  439. 19:13I stood there amazed in 1948 when the
  440. 19:19Lilly told me that she'd been healed of
  441. 19:23a tumor in Frankie's intubation I was
  442. 19:26awed algún is mr. overcame and said that
  443. 19:30he receives sight even because I never
  444. 19:34touched him I've never prayed balm ITU's
  445. 19:36curious as to what it happened
  446. 19:40recently in st. Louis globe-democrat
  447. 19:45reported that since 1948 committed a
  448. 19:50figure that they gave that at least two
  449. 19:54million people had been healed by the
  450. 19:57power of God through this ministry at
  451. 20:01one time I thought this was a this was a
  452. 20:04it was a pony but when it happened to me
  453. 20:07I've just tell the whole world that this
  454. 20:09is the the truest thing that ever was
  455. 20:12and I've seen healings here that make
  456. 20:14your hair stand on that hi my name is
  457. 20:17chell and I had a healing last month I
  458. 20:20had a
  459. 20:21ankylosing spondylitis which is us right
  460. 20:23it's sort of small joints of the spine
  461. 20:25and it has been verified by x-ray that
  462. 20:28calcification had set in and the doctors
  463. 20:31have confirmed it as being incurable and
  464. 20:33that it would gets arrested leeward I
  465. 20:35had a healing and my spine is straight
  466. 20:38and I'm fine and prayed the Lord I'm
  467. 20:41better than I have ever been and I'll
  468. 20:43never be the same again
  469. 20:51two million people this is what the news
  470. 20:56media has given that's reason you know
  471. 20:59the ministry needs no defense the
  472. 21:04miracles of healing need no defense
  473. 21:09sitting there there are thousands are
  474. 21:12watching and they need may feel as
  475. 21:15though that I am overdramatic when
  476. 21:18someone is willfully here for the part
  477. 21:22of God but they don't understand this
  478. 21:25that I'm just this thrilled with the
  479. 21:28very last miracle then I saw God
  480. 21:32performed as the first time there are no
  481. 21:35words in a given vocabulary to describe
  482. 21:39spiritual experiences and emotions
  483. 21:44because these things are spiritual but
  484. 21:47as real as the air that you weave I
  485. 21:51thought they needed more
  486. 21:52air-conditioning I was getting so
  487. 21:54terribly hot and now all at once when I
  488. 21:57turn to look at burning my head turns
  489. 21:59without holding
  490. 22:02[Music]
  491. 22:03everything and I noticed as soon as I
  492. 22:06stood up I could feel my feet with
  493. 22:09multiple sclerosis you don't have any
  494. 22:11feelings I was at 245 pounds vegetable
  495. 22:14all humped over to his neck left side
  496. 22:16paralyzed I had no ill feeling my hands
  497. 22:28straightened up I could turn my neck my
  498. 22:31left side had use in it I was a new man
  499. 22:34I know from my own experience my 30
  500. 22:37years of surgery and working with
  501. 22:39patients of this kind that this is
  502. 22:42medically impossible that this has to be
  503. 22:46a miracle of God to give me this healing
  504. 22:49of my back and to relieve this constant
  505. 22:52pain that I had in my legs how do you
  506. 22:55feel now I feel like I could shock the
  507. 23:01world by doing what I was blind and was
  508. 23:08let around like blind people need a
  509. 23:11doctor about I don't know I started to
  510. 23:19cry and I didn't ever cry much because I
  511. 23:23think that's one of the things about
  512. 23:25glaucoma you don't have much to it in
  513. 23:26the eyes or something
  514. 23:28and then I thought I saw the state but I
  515. 23:30didn't believe it I thought it was in my
  516. 23:32mind's eye that I tried and I took my
  517. 23:34glasses off and rub my eyes and I said
  518. 23:37tequan I see a little boy in the green
  519. 23:40sweater I was stunned I couldn't I
  520. 23:44couldn't say anything I I kept wanting
  521. 23:46to cry but I couldn't it was just that I
  522. 23:48was walking around days I couldn't
  523. 23:50believe I was there the thing is even
  524. 23:52though I believe in the supernatural
  525. 23:55part of God I'm not personally
  526. 23:57[Music]
  527. 23:59I do can become here Kathryn Kuhlman
  528. 24:07died following open-heart surgery
  529. 24:09it's likely however that her legacy of
  530. 24:12love and healing will be an inspiration
  531. 24:14for generations to come
  532. 24:15the lady from the little town of
  533. 24:17Concordia Missouri made too strong an
  534. 24:19imprint on too many millions of people
  535. 24:21to be soon forgotten Kathryn Kuhlman and
  536. 24:25the word miracles go together thousands
  537. 24:28of people would come some because they
  538. 24:29believed in the God of miracles others
  539. 24:31came skeptical but they both were
  540. 24:34touched by what God did through Kathryn
  541. 24:36Kuhlman you're a scientist he said I
  542. 24:41want you to forget Who I am
  543. 24:43but this is a scientist and it's true
  544. 24:47the two hardest people in the world to
  545. 24:49convince a doctor and a scientist what
  546. 24:53happened to you today before you knew
  547. 24:55you made a statement to the audience
  548. 24:58somebody heard I had damage to both ears
  549. 25:03and had gone to an ear specialist and
  550. 25:05had air forms put on and he turned the
  551. 25:09frequency up and he said it's no use you
  552. 25:12getting a hearing aid
  553. 25:14because both nerds are dead both nerves
  554. 25:16are nerves so then then your attendant
  555. 25:21down there started to giving me offense
  556. 25:23and pretty soon I told myself she's
  557. 25:26talking about a new one do you hear me
  558. 25:29perfectly no I hear you do you hear me
  559. 25:32now I hear you you hear me now I do you
  560. 25:36hear me now I know you hear me now oh
  561. 25:39you know do you still hear me I still
  562. 25:43hear you and the nerves are dead in both
  563. 25:46ears and they wouldn't even fit you with
  564. 25:48a hearing aid no siree
  565. 25:50did you believe when you came in here
  566. 25:51today no you not believe when you came
  567. 25:55in here today that's right
  568. 25:57what's right you didn't believe I didn't
  569. 25:59blink anything to help me why did you I
  570. 26:05lost faith in everything why did you
  571. 26:08come well sort of out of curiosity do
  572. 26:12you even know what God is really like do
  573. 26:18you want to know this is what God is
  574. 26:20really like this is His mercy
  575. 26:26now give him a break
  576. 26:35now many of the people that would
  577. 26:37Minister healing would lay hands on the
  578. 26:39sick or have a word of prophecy or
  579. 26:40something but Kathryn Kuhlman work
  580. 26:42mainly with the word of knowledge and
  581. 26:44the presence of God she interpreted what
  582. 26:47God was doing in the room helping people
  583. 26:49to respond to it or cooperate with it
  584. 26:51better a great person right now with a
  585. 26:54spinal condition I don't know what it is
  586. 26:56stand to your feet for just a second
  587. 26:58stand to your feet every person with a
  588. 27:00spinal condition just stand to your feet
  589. 27:05step out in the aisle don't wait for the
  590. 27:07Holy Spirit is moving that quickly step
  591. 27:09out on the island bend over do what you
  592. 27:12could not have done just bent over the
  593. 27:13very second you find that you've been
  594. 27:15healed come up here on either side come
  595. 27:19to Papa be sure that you yield be bit
  596. 27:21give it every test don't do not come up
  597. 27:26until after you've been healed come very
  598. 27:28quickly if you will be the ruptured disc
  599. 27:31somebody do not come up until after
  600. 27:33you've been healed just step out right
  601. 27:34now you've been coming rockers moves
  602. 27:36quickly just as quickly as you can from
  603. 27:39all over the great arena I don't go
  604. 27:41wearing it from the way up to the very
  605. 27:43top step on down just as good as you can
  606. 27:46what is this over here ah these yours
  607. 27:52bend over right now just bend over
  608. 27:58she would come on stage after pacing
  609. 28:01back and forth behind the curtain the
  610. 28:03music would be going and she'd be going
  611. 28:05through what she called a thousand
  612. 28:07deaths but when Kathryn Kuhlman would it
  613. 28:09be herself so that she could be used
  614. 28:10more fully by the Holy Spirit to help
  615. 28:13the lost and the sick because she knew
  616. 28:14better than anybody else she said that
  617. 28:17this was some people's the last hope and
  618. 28:19she wanted to make sure that she did
  619. 28:20everything she could to give them their
  620. 28:22chance to get healed and the connection
  621. 28:25with God and when she felt like she was
  622. 28:27at that point she'd come out from behind
  623. 28:28the stage and walk so rapidly to the
  624. 28:30middle that her in her white dress it
  625. 28:32looked like she was floating across the
  626. 28:34stage then she would talk to the crowd a
  627. 28:36little bit and she'd tell them about her
  628. 28:38friend the Holy Spirit and she didn't
  629. 28:41want her friend the Holy Spirit to leave
  630. 28:42because she could do nothing without him
  631. 28:44and she'd beg the crowd many times don't
  632. 28:47hurt him don't grieve him don't quench
  633. 28:49the spirit because if he leaves I can do
  634. 28:52nothing and I know that'll be what a
  635. 28:54very first thing is the news media will
  636. 28:56question me about after the speech
  637. 28:58service is the sling power of the Holy
  638. 29:01Spirit and you'll try to attribute it to
  639. 29:04Kathryn Kuhlman her touch or you'll say
  640. 29:10she as she made hand upon them it is not
  641. 29:15truth you'll find people all over this
  642. 29:19great auditorium who be slain by the
  643. 29:25cargo hula goes far out of my sight with
  644. 29:27no one touching them whatsoever
  645. 29:33I have no healing virtue I have no
  646. 29:38healing power don't try to reach out and
  647. 29:43touch me don't beg for my touch under
  648. 29:49any circumstances reach up and touch him
  649. 29:53he's the one she was so dependent upon
  650. 29:56the Holy Spirit and she was also so
  651. 29:58reverent about giving God all the glory
  652. 30:01for everything that happened in the
  653. 30:03service that people could see in the
  654. 30:06heart where nobody could see but the
  655. 30:07person could feel it
  656. 30:08miss cumin was in love with for the
  657. 30:11father the son of the Holy Spirit and
  658. 30:13love being than a handmaiden of the Lord
  659. 30:29this don't all today the only
  660. 30:34restraining post-sex left in the world
  661. 30:36today for good is the power of the holy
  662. 30:39spirit that's the only straining power
  663. 30:43there is I don't want to be here one in
  664. 30:47five minutes that the Holy Spirit is
  665. 30:48because I hate my brother I wouldn't
  666. 30:51want to be here one five minutes after
  667. 30:54the Holy Ghost has been taken out he is
  668. 30:58only restraining force in this world
  669. 31:02today I think what's going to be like
  670. 31:10when the Holy Spirit is take it out when
  671. 31:14Jesus Christ came to this earth in the
  672. 31:18form of flesh this mighty third person
  673. 31:27the Trinity I will always because he
  674. 31:31knew he would be as much man as or even
  675. 31:34out God he knew he would stand face to
  676. 31:37face with temptation he knew the outcome
  677. 31:40when he'd stand face to face with the
  678. 31:43ego
  679. 31:47and we floating went away the only last
  680. 31:50thing that he did he made provision that
  681. 31:54you and I should not be defeated on a
  682. 31:56single score if you're a part of this
  683. 32:00big body of believers you do not have to
  684. 32:03go double EDP oh what a split second I
  685. 32:10have to go down in defeat don't wanna
  686. 32:14spit second
  687. 32:18errors of gourmet John Garrett with
  688. 32:20Christ Jesus in this great auditorium
  689. 32:28greater is he that is within us then he
  690. 32:32that is in the world
  691. 32:43No
  692. 32:50so you're normal that's wonderful
  693. 32:53fellowship of Holy Spirit do you really
  694. 32:58know what it means all I know there's a
  695. 33:01great ecstasy a being filled with the
  696. 33:05Holy Spirit I know we're in a great
  697. 33:09charismatic world convention here today
  698. 33:14you have great moments of ecstasy I
  699. 33:18deliver their great of experience of
  700. 33:21emotion in their life then when you
  701. 33:23receive the baptism of the Spirit that's
  702. 33:26marvelous my friend you know the
  703. 33:35experience
  704. 33:38of having used it your wheel to the
  705. 33:42wheel of the bar
  706. 33:52not some of self in some V but none of
  707. 33:59self and/or
  708. 34:06I feel that glorious of anointing of the
  709. 34:10Holy Ghost that provision that he has
  710. 34:12paid for every one of these children
  711. 34:15when you take the most ordinary he
  712. 34:20doesn't ask for golden vessels he
  713. 34:22doesn't ask for silver vessels he asks
  714. 34:25for weeded vessels you take the most
  715. 34:31ordinary person
  716. 34:32I will tell who that one might be give
  717. 34:40you a wind the wisdom man's under
  718. 34:51Hey
  719. 35:04stand alone arrayed against all the
  720. 35:10forces of hell and finger like a giant
  721. 35:21not to make over their own strength
  722. 35:24[Music]
  723. 35:28but because you are growing on unseen
  724. 35:35resources
  725. 35:40I haven't been speaking to you about
  726. 35:41something as imaginary I've been
  727. 35:45speaking to you about something that's
  728. 35:47the most real thing that can happen to
  729. 35:51any individual
  730. 35:56I was in one of her services her I saw
  731. 35:59my second miracle in my life the first
  732. 36:02miracle I saw was in a Jeremy Walker
  733. 36:04meeting the second one was in a Kathryn
  734. 36:06Kuhlman meeting now to me the Kathryn
  735. 36:09Kuhlman meeting was not powerful because
  736. 36:11of what you saw even though that was
  737. 36:13great what you felt was the most
  738. 36:15powerful thing to me because when this
  739. 36:17Kuhlman came on that stage you could
  740. 36:19feel a tangible as' of God's presence
  741. 36:22whereas the Old Testament called the
  742. 36:24Shekinah glory it came like fig jelly on
  743. 36:27your face and you could feel it like
  744. 36:28weight on your shoulders and it didn't
  745. 36:30do like this in the service it came and
  746. 36:33it he kept growing steadily and you'd be
  747. 36:35in that service for three four sometimes
  748. 36:37five hours and you'd wake up thinking is
  749. 36:40it over and you've been there that many
  750. 36:42hours most folks can't wait for the
  751. 36:44preacher to get done in 20 minutes and
  752. 36:45you'll be with her for three four and
  753. 36:47sometimes five hours I remember at the
  754. 36:51toss of maybe Center when I saw Miss
  755. 36:53Kuhlman there was Catholic nuns that
  756. 36:55came in pushing a woman in a wheelchair
  757. 36:58was another nun and her arms were and
  758. 37:01hands were like this around her chest I
  759. 37:03assumed because she was in a wheelchair
  760. 37:05that her legs were not working properly
  761. 37:07and maybe deform in some way but I
  762. 37:09didn't see them I only saw her arms and
  763. 37:11her fingers and her wrists and the
  764. 37:14service began and you know nothing
  765. 37:17spectacular had happened and all of a
  766. 37:20sudden was coonley in to call out
  767. 37:22miracles someone's being healed of
  768. 37:24deafness here or someone's heart problem
  769. 37:26here and she just said there's something
  770. 37:28happened in the wheelchair section and
  771. 37:30then she just went on to do something
  772. 37:32else in the service I saw that little
  773. 37:35crippled nun nobody touched her no one
  774. 37:38spoke to her directly all of a sudden
  775. 37:41her wrists begin to move slowly like
  776. 37:43this and the little nuns that a broader
  777. 37:45jump down beside the wheelchair and
  778. 37:47pulled out their prayer beads and I
  779. 37:48guess they were praying or something
  780. 37:50that was new to me as a little boy I was
  781. 37:52raised Pentecostal so they hold Catholic
  782. 37:54faith and how they worship was was all
  783. 37:56new so that was strange to me but I
  784. 37:58still remember them getting on their
  785. 38:00knees and pull out little prayer beads
  786. 38:01now that I know they were prayer beans
  787. 38:03and
  788. 38:04the wrists begin to move like this and
  789. 38:06then something really unusual happen
  790. 38:08each finger begin to pop like this until
  791. 38:11all 10 were like that and when all 10
  792. 38:14fingers were like that then you could
  793. 38:16begin to hear her bones pop and crack as
  794. 38:18something or someone invisible begin to
  795. 38:22pull and their arms were totally
  796. 38:23stretched out like this and perfectly
  797. 38:25normal and then she stood up and the
  798. 38:29nuns around her stood up behind her
  799. 38:30trying to catch her if she was gonna
  800. 38:32fall and she beginning to wobble and
  801. 38:34walk a little bit and took about three
  802. 38:36or four steps and then she began to walk
  803. 38:38normal but her arms ever came down and
  804. 38:40she walked around the total bottom of
  805. 38:42the auditorium and Catherine and halfway
  806. 38:44through begin to say come up here and
  807. 38:46she can't walk in and get walking and
  808. 38:47finally they got the nuns to come on the
  809. 38:49platform and when the lady in her arms
  810. 38:51are still out was walking around the
  811. 38:53platform and Catherine couldn't get her
  812. 38:55to stop to talk to her so she talked to
  813. 38:56the other nuns and finally the lady
  814. 38:58walked off the stage and she was
  815. 39:00perfectly healed that was a miracle
  816. 39:02service that I saw with my own eyes that
  817. 39:04God did in Kathryn Kuhlman now I've seen
  818. 39:07a lot of pick a lot of preachers a lot
  819. 39:09of films of great preachers but I've
  820. 39:11never seen anybody like Kathryn Kuhlman
  821. 39:13we're about to go to another clip I
  822. 39:15guess the best way for you to enjoy is
  823. 39:17for you to hear her for yourself and
  824. 39:19know that what God did to through her
  825. 39:21and God did for her he can do for you -
  826. 39:24[Applause]
  827. 39:36you mean this is
  828. 39:43[Applause]
  829. 39:47this is the most beautiful shot I would
  830. 39:55have come to Las Vegas just for the
  831. 39:57healing of this youngster how old are
  832. 40:00you honey
  833. 40:02tell the people jar what's your name I
  834. 40:07want you to see this little wheelchair
  835. 40:10look this little wheelchair but made for
  836. 40:15a little 11 year old boy rheumatoid
  837. 40:20arthritis
  838. 40:21this is grandmother the grandmother who
  839. 40:25brought him remembered walk across the
  840. 40:29stage honey walk across there
  841. 40:33[Applause]
  842. 40:40if you want to see a beautiful face if
  843. 40:44you want to see a beautiful Icarus file
  844. 40:46in this face
  845. 40:47here's his wheelchair how many feel like
  846. 40:50is all worthwhile
  847. 40:51what about him look at his realty like a
  848. 40:56smile on his face you can't doubt this
  849. 41:01smile you can't doubt this smile and
  850. 41:05Grandma broader what do you live here in
  851. 41:11Vegas where do you people go to church
  852. 41:17First Baptist Church pick him up real
  853. 41:24high walk again he come up real high
  854. 41:26steel higher steel higher look all you
  855. 41:33have to do is to exercise you that's all
  856. 41:36on earth that yeah look at face there's
  857. 41:40nothing hurt doesn't it hurt you mean it
  858. 41:43doesn't hurt okay take your in the
  859. 41:46wheelchair you push it honey go on there
  860. 41:49he goes there we go don't thank me I
  861. 41:55there we go give them a great big God
  862. 41:58[Applause]
  863. 42:04and we vow to give you the praise we
  864. 42:09vowed to give you the blow it's not my
  865. 42:13mind it's not my power but it's by my
  866. 42:16spirit
  867. 42:17pull down the aisle honey I wanna go
  868. 42:19down this main aisle turn around turn
  869. 42:22around put your old wheelchair honey
  870. 42:26there's this holy ground Oh God I wanna
  871. 42:32see you're riding your bike
  872. 42:33tomorrow tomorrow you'll be riding
  873. 42:36bicycle paralyzed came from Denver
  874. 42:42totally paralyzed on this side no
  875. 42:43feeling and her sons with her she just
  876. 42:47got out of a hospital and you did you
  877. 42:50fly in from Denver yes other people what
  878. 42:53we just flew in yesterday morning and my
  879. 43:00mother had a stroke in June of 72 and
  880. 43:03I've gotta tell you something this is a
  881. 43:05confirmation because I'm a flight
  882. 43:07attendant for United Airlines and I
  883. 43:09graduated and went to New York and I
  884. 43:12caught home and talked to my father and
  885. 43:14he said that she had a complete stroke
  886. 43:16and they didn't know what the she was
  887. 43:17gonna live or die and my first OJT
  888. 43:20flight was to Las Vegas the next day the
  889. 43:24next day it was to Las Vegas and I said
  890. 43:27oh Lord
  891. 43:27and it was a brand new I wasn't even a
  892. 43:30Christian and I just prayed that the
  893. 43:32Lord would heal her and when we believed
  894. 43:34it and we felt led to come and and my
  895. 43:37mother's had paralysis on the right side
  896. 43:39she just got out of Swedish Hospital in
  897. 43:41Denver and had over $3,000 worth of
  898. 43:44medical tests run on her a week and a
  899. 43:46half ago and the doctors had to be on
  900. 43:48medication the rest of her life and
  901. 43:51she's
  902. 43:55[Applause]
  903. 44:01[Music]
  904. 44:03pick up your lips pick up your legs pick
  905. 44:07up your legs you can't open your hand
  906. 44:11she could never squeeze me this hard
  907. 44:13before her in the right hand oh yeah are
  908. 44:15you sure this is your mother did you
  909. 44:21expect all this to happen oh well I kept
  910. 44:24I didn't know if I had
  911. 44:30[Applause]
  912. 44:32that my friend is the power of God
  913. 44:36that's true for the old skeptic that I
  914. 44:39didn't push her down
  915. 44:43this is the power of God in this place
  916. 44:46oh honey don't forget again you forget
  917. 44:49about the way nobody cares
  918. 44:56like a wig who cares
  919. 44:58honey look at this this is really that's
  920. 45:03all right honey that's beautiful
  921. 45:06that's beautiful that's all right in a
  922. 45:11few minutes I'll take it off and try it
  923. 45:13on myself and see how I get it
  924. 45:17Kathryn Kuhlman's life ended in 1976 I
  925. 45:20remember the day that she died I turned
  926. 45:23on the television and the news was on
  927. 45:24and the first news item was Kathryn
  928. 45:28Kuhlman had died it was a sad day when
  929. 45:30one of these great people dying and go
  930. 45:33on to heaven because we missed them we
  931. 45:35missed their anointing we missed their
  932. 45:37gift but I want to tell you how she died
  933. 45:39because I think it's a very interesting
  934. 45:40story miss Cullen had a heart problem
  935. 45:43throughout most of her life that's one
  936. 45:45reason why she talked kind of over
  937. 45:47pronounce eiated her words if it was the
  938. 45:49Holy Spirit in God you know if you don't
  939. 45:52you heard her just a few moments ago
  940. 45:53part of that was because her heart was
  941. 45:56the size of two fists when she died
  942. 45:57instead of one which is the natural size
  943. 45:59of a heart and so she collapsed in Los
  944. 46:02Angeles at the Shrine Auditorium and
  945. 46:04before she had her last service this is
  946. 46:07what carking Pearson told me he was her
  947. 46:09guest soloist at that service and she
  948. 46:12normally paced back and forth before the
  949. 46:14service as I told you before in 'then
  950. 46:17yourself so she'd get ready to minister
  951. 46:19to the people and this time is it a
  952. 46:21patient she was holding onto the curtain
  953. 46:22because she was so frail Carlton said
  954. 46:25that you could see her heartbeat through
  955. 46:26her white dress because she was so thin
  956. 46:29and so frail and he didn't know if she
  957. 46:31if he should go up to her and hold her
  958. 46:33up or stay away because the rule was
  959. 46:35when she was in this time of a prayer no
  960. 46:38one talked to her no one touched her no
  961. 46:40one asked her a question but because of
  962. 46:42this physical condition he was concerned
  963. 46:44so he closed his eyes and thinking Lord
  964. 46:47what should I do when he opened his eyes
  965. 46:48back up she was gone and out on the
  966. 46:50stage the power got to come on her and
  967. 46:53given her last request her last request
  968. 46:55was let me have lean on him one more
  969. 46:58time
  970. 46:58for this service she walked out and did
  971. 47:01a three to four hour miracle service
  972. 47:03came back behind the curtain and
  973. 47:05collapsed never to stand up again to say
  974. 47:08the great words I believe in miracles
  975. 47:10because I believe in God to the vast
  976. 47:11crowds they took her to the hospital and
  977. 47:14then from there they flew her in a
  978. 47:15private plane from Los Angeles to
  979. 47:17Oklahoma in the city of Tulsa at that
  980. 47:19time they have one of the best heart
  981. 47:21sinners in the country and they did
  982. 47:23open-heart surgery on her and so she was
  983. 47:26in recovery and the secretary mr.
  984. 47:28Coleman called Oral Roberts to come and
  985. 47:31pray for her
  986. 47:31all on Emma Roberts headquarters were in
  987. 47:33Tulsa Oklahoma
  988. 47:34I asked oral one time what was it like
  989. 47:37the day you went to Kathryn Kuhlman's
  990. 47:39room to pray for her and Evelyn had just
  991. 47:41finished the meal and walked into the
  992. 47:42kitchen and sat down beside me so I got
  993. 47:44everyone's rendition and all's rendition
  994. 47:47of what happened when they went to pray
  995. 47:48for Kathryn Kuhlman they walk into the
  996. 47:50room they said and she looked very fair
  997. 47:53pale and frail and the oral said I was
  998. 47:56present and I knew that the Lord's power
  999. 47:59was present there also to heal her I was
  1000. 48:03aware that it was there I felt it in my
  1001. 48:05hands he's unfamiliar with the anointing
  1002. 48:08to hear because I prayed for millions of
  1003. 48:10people and I've seen thousands of them
  1004. 48:11healed so I reached out to pray for her
  1005. 48:14and I closed my eyes and Evelyn's that's
  1006. 48:16when I grabbed your arm oil and I shook
  1007. 48:19orals arm and said look cuz all all did
  1008. 48:23not see that Kathryn had put up a finger
  1009. 48:25and did this and because he could not
  1010. 48:27talk she could not have enough energy to
  1011. 48:29utter word so she had enough energy to
  1012. 48:32raise her hand and her finger and did
  1013. 48:34this and did this and Evelyn said all I
  1014. 48:39think she wants to go to heaven so oral
  1015. 48:42turned to Kathryn and said Kathryn do
  1016. 48:44you want to be healed or do you want to
  1017. 48:45go to heaven and he said that she put
  1018. 48:48her finger back up and this went like
  1019. 48:50that which meant she wanted to go to
  1020. 48:52heaven so all on Evelyn laid hands on
  1021. 48:54her very gently and ask the Lord to
  1022. 48:57grant that request that miss Cullen had
  1023. 48:59run her course and had done a great job
  1024. 49:00with her ministry and representing the
  1025. 49:03healing ministry to millions of people
  1026. 49:05around the world and in just a few days
  1027. 49:07Kathryn Kuhlman but leave her body and
  1028. 49:09make her entrance into heaven I want to
  1029. 49:12end this show with my favorite quote of
  1030. 49:14Kathryn Kuhlman
  1031. 49:15one of the reporters one time asked her
  1032. 49:17what are you going to say when you've
  1033. 49:19seen Jesus for the first time and she
  1034. 49:21stopped and you never watched her very
  1035. 49:23much she would killed her head sometimes
  1036. 49:25when she'd become very personable she
  1037. 49:27said I know exactly what I'm gonna say
  1038. 49:29when I finally seen face to face I want
  1039. 49:33to say dear Jesus I tried I did the best
  1040. 49:37that I knew how and I think when she
  1041. 49:40went to heaven and she saw Jesus for the
  1042. 49:42very first time that's exactly what she
  1043. 49:44said
  1044. 49:54[Music]
  1045. 49:58Oh
  1046. 50:04in here they can't come up and they come
  1047. 50:16from the balconies they come in the
  1048. 50:18bleachers
  1049. 50:23[Music]
  1050. 50:29and the word sitting he must be born
  1051. 50:31again he must be born again human come
  1052. 50:38upon to be I will in no wise cast that
  1053. 50:41and they come and steal they come
  1054. 50:44standard with your eyes closed in your
  1055. 50:47heads uplifted unashamedly but audibly
  1056. 50:53say dear Jesus
  1057. 51:01forgive my sins Katie justified
  1058. 51:08I'd give myself to you
  1059. 51:12the spirit for Jesus
  1060. 51:25[Music]
  1061. 51:44[Music]

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