Give Me 33 Mins, I'll Give You 10,000 Hours of Ecom Ads Knowledge — Transcript
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- 0:00A women's apparel brand started working
- 0:01with us a few years ago. Within the
- 0:03first 30 days, we were able to drive
- 0:05more traffic, more clicks, [music]
- 0:07and plenty of add-to-carts, but the
- 0:09purchases were still falling off. The
- 0:11ads were doing their job, even better
- 0:13than before, but something outside of
- 0:15the ad account was killing each sale.
- 0:18And the founder was protecting a policy
- 0:20that was causing that leak. And I'll
- 0:22show you the checkout decision that we
- 0:24made in a minute, but whether you're a
- 0:25D2C founder, head of growth, or an
- 0:28in-house marketer already spending real
- 0:30money on acquisition, you probably
- 0:31already know how to launch a campaign.
- 0:33The harder question is whether you can
- 0:35tell which part of the business you
- 0:37should actually focus on. At ADVT Media,
- 0:39we've managed paid acquisition for more
- 0:41than 600 e-commerce brands now over the
- 0:44last 8 years, and driven over 125
- 0:47million in client sales from our
- 0:49campaigns alone. In this video, I'm
- 0:51going to give you the lessons that
- 0:52changed how I think about creatives,
- 0:54campaign structure, attribution,
- 0:56economics, and scale. Some of these
- 0:58things apply to $500 a day budget, and
- 1:00others apply to those at $50,000 a day.
- 1:02Every one of them changes how you read
- 1:04the account before you spend the next
- 1:06dollar. So, number one, the highest ROAS
- 1:09campaign may actually be the least
- 1:11scalable. Now, let's start with
- 1:12something that I think a lot of
- 1:14e-commerce brands don't even think
- 1:15about, and that's how they look at
- 1:17return on ad spend. If I asked you
- 1:18whether you'd spend $1,000 a day at a
- 1:20five times ROAS or $10,000 a day at a
- 1:24three times ROAS, which would you
- 1:25choose? Because I think a lot of people
- 1:27immediately gravitate towards the 5x.
- 1:30It's a higher return, so naturally they
- 1:32assume it's the better option. But the
- 1:34first campaign is generating $5,000 in
- 1:36revenue, while the second one is
- 1:38generating $30,000 of revenue. Now,
- 1:41obviously we need to account for
- 1:43margins, acquisition costs, and actual
- 1:44profitability before making a decision,
- 1:46but the point I'm making is that the
- 1:48highest ROAS doesn't automatically mean
- 1:50it's your best opportunity for growth,
- 1:53or best for the business. And this
- 1:54becomes even more important when you
- 1:56understand the difference between
- 1:58creating demand and capturing demand.
- 2:00New customers versus limited low-hanging
- 2:03fruit. Let's say you're running two
- 2:05campaigns. One is generating five times
- 2:07return on ad spend, and the other is
- 2:08generating a 1.5. Natural reaction for
- 2:11all of the people I talk with is to shut
- 2:13off that 1.5 campaign and put more money
- 2:15into the 5x. And trust me, I've gotten
- 2:18the AI brief from founders who yell at
- 2:19us to do this for them. But, what if the
- 2:221.5 campaign is actually introducing
- 2:24thousands of completely new people to
- 2:26your brand while the five times campaign
- 2:28is primarily reaching those engaged
- 2:31users just at a later point? Well, that
- 2:33changes things a bit because the lower
- 2:35ROAS campaign could actually be
- 2:37contributing and fueling the performance
- 2:39of the higher ROAS campaign. And a lot
- 2:41of the times it is. I've seen this
- 2:43happen with brands where existing
- 2:45campaigns look incredible on paper, but
- 2:47when you actually break down who those
- 2:49campaigns are reaching, a lot of that
- 2:52spend is going towards people who are
- 2:54already familiar with the business.
- 2:57Engaged users and existing customers.
- 2:59You can look at your audience segment
- 3:01breakdown here and see for yourself.
- 3:03Meanwhile, your new customer acquisition
- 3:05campaigns or top-of-funnel campaigns
- 3:07might have a lower return or reported
- 3:10return, but they're actually doing the
- 3:11work of bringing in the new people
- 3:13[music] into the ecosystem. But, they're
- 3:16actually doing the work of bringing
- 3:17people into the ecosystem, into those
- 3:20other campaigns. And if you shut off
- 3:21those bad campaigns, the ones with the
- 3:231.5 or the top-of-funnel, simply because
- 3:26their ROAS is lower, you could
- 3:27eventually start hurting the campaigns
- 3:29that appear to performing so well. They
- 3:32exist because of the other ones. I'm not
- 3:34saying you should continue spending
- 3:36money on an unprofitable campaign just
- 3:38because it's reaching new people. We
- 3:39still want those campaigns to be
- 3:41healthy, but you have to understand the
- 3:43ecosystem the consumers are in and
- 3:45whether that spend is actually valuable.
- 3:48But, I think the bigger lesson here is
- 3:49that you need to understand the role
- 3:51that each campaign plays in growing the
- 3:52business. Not only campaigns, but also
- 3:55platforms. How do Google branded
- 3:57campaigns help support the awareness you
- 3:59drive from Meta? Some assets create
- 4:01demand while others capture it, and some
- 4:04are responsible for retargeting people
- 4:06who are already interested. You can't
- 4:08judge all of them by the exact same
- 4:10metric without understanding what
- 4:12they're actually contributing. And that
- 4:14leads into something else I see
- 4:16constantly, which is brands spending all
- 4:18of their time looking at the advertising
- 4:20dashboard when the actual problem is
- 4:22happening somewhere else entirely. Which
- 4:24leads me to number two, better ads can
- 4:27actually make a broken funnel more
- 4:29expensive. [music] Remember that women's
- 4:31apparel brand I mentioned in the
- 4:32beginning? We were driving a lot of
- 4:34traffic, getting more clicks, and seeing
- 4:36people add products to their cart. Our
- 4:38process is really good at cutting the
- 4:39fat and making your system more
- 4:41efficient. But for whatever reason, that
- 4:43activity wasn't translating into the
- 4:45number of purchases we wanted. And I
- 4:47think a typical response from a lot of
- 4:49advertisers would be to start changing
- 4:51the creatives, testing new targeting, or
- 4:53rebuilding the whole entire campaigns.
- 4:55But when you think about it, why would
- 4:57we immediately assume the ads are the
- 4:59problem when they're already getting
- 5:01people interested enough to add to cart?
- 5:03Changing the ads would just change the
- 5:05flow of users to the site. It wouldn't
- 5:07address where the constraint is right
- 5:09now. So, instead, we started looking
- 5:12further down the funnel. Remember the
- 5:14river of water analogy I had in another
- 5:16video? Well, we did exactly that. And
- 5:18what we identified was the $12 shipping
- 5:21charge that the customers were
- 5:22encountering during a checkout for a $30
- 5:25product. The founder didn't want to
- 5:26offer free shipping because they were
- 5:28concerned about protecting their
- 5:30margins. Which I completely understand.
- 5:33But what was happening was that they
- 5:34were protecting the margin on each
- 5:36individual order while losing a
- 5:39significant number of potential
- 5:41purchases. And once that shipping
- 5:43friction was removed, even though the
- 5:45margin per order decreased, we were able
- 5:48to actually generate considerably more
- 5:50purchases. I had to get on a call with
- 5:52them and literally lay out, "Do you want
- 5:5410 sales per day and $300 of revenue
- 5:56with perfect margins?" Or would you
- 5:58rather have $100 sales per day and
- 6:00$3,000 of revenue with no extra ad
- 6:03spend, by the way, and a little less
- 6:05margin on each sale. And I think that's
- 6:07such a good example of why you have to
- 6:09look beyond the ad account. The problem
- 6:11wasn't that people weren't interested in
- 6:13the product or the ads or they weren't
- 6:15getting to the website. It wasn't that
- 6:17we needed to completely change our
- 6:18strategy, especially on the meta side.
- 6:20The problem was that the customers were
- 6:22getting all the way to checkout and then
- 6:23abandoning the purchase. If we had
- 6:26focused on changing the ads, generating
- 6:28more traffic, we would have just
- 6:29continued sending more people into the
- 6:31same problem. This is why I always look
- 6:33at the full customer journey when we're
- 6:35diagnosing performance. Look at the
- 6:37whole river of water. Start at the top.
- 6:39If your CPMs are unusually high, we need
- 6:42to understand why it's so expensive to
- 6:44reach people, whether we show a good ad
- 6:46or not. If your click-through rate is
- 6:48low, we might have a creative problem
- 6:50because people aren't interested enough
- 6:51to even click through, even if they are
- 6:53seeing it on the feed. But if people are
- 6:56clicking and landing on the website and
- 6:58then they're not adding anything to
- 6:59their cart, we need to start looking at
- 7:01the product page, [music] the offer, the
- 7:03price point, or how the product is being
- 7:05communicated in the description or the
- 7:07copy. Does it explain the value? How are
- 7:10the reviews? You have to look at
- 7:11everything on the product page. Think of
- 7:13yourself as the consumer. And if people
- 7:15are adding to cart, but they aren't
- 7:16completing the purchase, then I'm
- 7:18looking at everything after the cart,
- 7:19the checkout process, the checkout
- 7:21friction, the shipping cost, cart upsell
- 7:23apps, making the cart maybe too noisy,
- 7:25payment options, and anything else that
- 7:27could prevent them from buying and
- 7:29completing that next step. And it
- 7:31doesn't stop at the first We also want
- 7:33to understand average order value,
- 7:35customer lifetime value, and how
- 7:37frequently people are repeating
- 7:39purchases. All of those things affect
- 7:42how much we can afford to spend on
- 7:43acquiring customers. So, let's say you
- 7:45have 500 people adding products to their
- 7:47cart, but only 20 of them are
- 7:49purchasing. You could launch another 20
- 7:51creatives and potentially get 550 people
- 7:54to add to their cart and 21 sales, but
- 7:56what have you really accomplished there?
- 7:58If the same number of customers continue
- 8:00abandoning the checkout, you're making
- 8:02the problem more expensive, and that's
- 8:04not something that spending more money
- 8:06can fix. Sure, you'll have more sales
- 8:08per day and it'll look better maybe on
- 8:10paper, but they'll never actually be at
- 8:13an efficient rate that you want. So, the
- 8:15lesson isn't that every brand needs to
- 8:17offer free shipping, it's that you need
- 8:19to identify the biggest constraint in
- 8:20your business before deciding where the
- 8:23next dollar should go. If it's the
- 8:24shipping rate, try free shipping for 3
- 8:26days or try baking in the shipping price
- 8:28into the product cost. Did that help or
- 8:30what else can be done? Sometimes the
- 8:32most valuable thing you can do for your
- 8:34advertising performance has absolutely
- 8:36nothing to do with the advertisements
- 8:37themselves. And number three, platform
- 8:40delivery can make bad data look like a
- 8:42winning test. Now, let's talk about
- 8:44creative testing because I think this is
- 8:46one of the most misunderstood parts of
- 8:48running Meta ads. Everybody talks about
- 8:50the importance of testing creatives and
- 8:52I completely agree. I love testing for
- 8:54the opportunity to find something that
- 8:56works better than what we already have,
- 8:58but I also think a lot of advertisers
- 9:00believe they're testing creatives when
- 9:02in reality they're just letting Meta
- 9:03decide what creatives receive the
- 9:05budget. And here's what I mean. Let's
- 9:07say you launch 10 creatives inside of
- 9:09one campaign. And after a few days, you
- 9:11look at the results. One creative has
- 9:13spent $1,000, another spent 200, and the
- 9:16other eight have barely spent anything.
- 9:17The first creative generated a few
- 9:19purchases, so you decide that that's the
- 9:21winner. You shut everything else off and
- 9:23you move on. But, how do you know that
- 9:25those other eight lower on the list
- 9:27[music] wouldn't have performed better
- 9:29if they received a fair opportunity? All
- 9:31you really know is that Meta decided to
- 9:33allocate the majority of your budget
- 9:34towards one or two of the ads and people
- 9:36are on Reddit and YouTube comments
- 9:38saying, "Yeah, because the AI is so
- 9:40smart, we have to listen to it." And
- 9:41these same people haven't been able to
- 9:43scale past $200 a day. And there's a
- 9:45reason. And look, I'm not suggesting
- 9:47that Meta's algorithm doesn't know what
- 9:49it's doing. There's a reason it's
- 9:50prioritizing certain ads based on the
- 9:52signal it receives, but there's a
- 9:54difference between allowing an algorithm
- 9:56to optimize delivery and actually
- 9:58conducting a controlled creative test to
- 10:00understand what resonates with your
- 10:02market. If one creative receives 50,000
- 10:05impressions and another receives 400, I
- 10:07I think that you and I can confidently
- 10:10conclude that the second creative was a
- 10:12loser. We just simply don't have enough
- 10:14information. I'm going to be honest,
- 10:16usually there's a winning ad somewhere
- 10:18down on that eight ad list that changes
- 10:20everything for the business. If you left
- 10:22it up to meta and if you trust the
- 10:24algorithm and if you think you know the
- 10:26strategy, it'll never get the spend it
- 10:27needs and this is why our approach to
- 10:29testing at ADV Team Media is very
- 10:31intentional. We want to isolate the
- 10:33variables. We want to understand exactly
- 10:35what's responsible for performance that
- 10:37we're seeing. [music] It's not some
- 10:38magic service that gets you a
- 10:40nine-figure business in 30 days, but
- 10:42it's clarity and action on building a
- 10:44structure and plan for your advertising
- 10:46to get the consistent results for the
- 10:49long term. So, if we're testing
- 10:50creatives, I don't want to
- 10:51simultaneously change the targeting
- 10:53landing page general copy because then
- 10:55if something performs, we don't really
- 10:57know which variable was responsible. I
- 10:59want to keep those things as consistent
- 11:01as possible and give each creative a
- 11:04meaningful opportunity to perform. And
- 11:07when we do these tests, we're not just
- 11:08looking at purchases either. Obviously,
- 11:10purchases are what we're ultimately
- 11:11trying to generate, but there's a lot of
- 11:13useful information that we can collect
- 11:15before someone actually buys. We talked
- 11:17about that river of water. We can look
- 11:19at the CPM, the CPC, the link
- 11:21click-through rate, the add-to-carts,
- 11:22initiate checkouts, how those metrics
- 11:24relate to one another, the purchases,
- 11:25the AOV, everything. So, for example,
- 11:28one creative might generate really
- 11:29inexpensive clicks, but none of those
- 11:31people are adding products to their
- 11:32carts. You're just getting a lot of
- 11:34them. Another creative might have a
- 11:35higher CPC, higher CPM, but the people
- 11:37clicking much more likely to initiate
- 11:39checkout or purchase. To me, that second
- 11:41creative would be more valuable even
- 11:43though the initial traffic is expensive.
- 11:45So, depending on the account, we might
- 11:46use something like 1,000 to 3,000
- 11:48impressions as the initial checkpoint
- 11:51when comparing creatives and we can use
- 11:53automated rules or impression limits to
- 11:55prevent one ad from taking all of the
- 11:56delivery before we learn anything about
- 11:58the others. And that's not some magic
- 12:00number that applies to every business.
- 12:02If you're dealing with extremely high
- 12:04CPMs or a small budget, you need to
- 12:06adjust your testing accordingly. The
- 12:08objective with all of this is to collect
- 12:10enough comparable evidence, comparable
- 12:12is the keyword, to make a informed
- 12:14decision, not follow some arbitrary
- 12:17testing rule. And I personally believe
- 12:19that's the distinction. Just because
- 12:20Meta didn't spend more money on a
- 12:22creative doesn't automatically mean it
- 12:23was a bad creative. I've seen this play
- 12:26out hundreds of times. I just know. And
- 12:28if you understand that, you start
- 12:29approaching creative testing very
- 12:31differently. And there's something else
- 12:33equally important, and that's what you
- 12:34actually do with the information once
- 12:36you have identified the winners, which
- 12:38brings me to number four. The winner is
- 12:40less valuable than the reason it won.
- 12:42And I think one of the biggest missed
- 12:44opportunities in creative testing is
- 12:46that brands spend so much time trying to
- 12:48identify winning advertisements, but
- 12:50very little time understanding why those
- 12:52ads are winners in the first place.
- 12:54Let's say you launch 20 new creatives
- 12:56and three of them perform really well.
- 12:58Most advertisers will take those three,
- 13:00put more money behind them, shut off the
- 13:01losers, and then go and produce another
- 13:0320 creatives. And that's fine to an
- 13:05extent. I think you're leaving an
- 13:06enormous amount of valuable information
- 13:08on the table if you don't take the time
- 13:10to compare those winners and understand
- 13:12what they have in common. For example,
- 13:14maybe all three winning creatives are
- 13:16addressing the same objection that the
- 13:18customers have before purchasing, or
- 13:20maybe they all demonstrate the product
- 13:22within the first few seconds, rather
- 13:23than spending time introducing the brand
- 13:25or having the brand logo pop up. Or
- 13:27perhaps they're leading with a
- 13:28particular problem the customers
- 13:30experiencing instead of just talking
- 13:32about the product's features. Well,
- 13:33those things, all three of them or more,
- 13:36I want to identify because now we have
- 13:38learned something about the customer
- 13:39that we can use moving forward. And of
- 13:41course, mirroring success is always the
- 13:43fastest way to it again. And once we
- 13:45understand that, we can build an
- 13:47entirely new round of creatives around
- 13:49the same insights. We can test the
- 13:50different hooks, different formats,
- 13:51different creators, different product
- 13:53demonstrations, and different ways of
- 13:55communicating that message that won. But
- 13:58we're no longer just throwing random
- 13:59concepts at the wall and hoping that
- 14:01something sticks. All of this is about
- 14:03what resonates with the market, build on
- 14:05that. And that's really how I think
- 14:06creative testing should work. Every
- 14:08round of testing should teach you
- 14:09something that helps inform the next
- 14:11round. And over time, you should develop
- 14:13a much better understanding of why
- 14:16customers are purchasing your products,
- 14:18which messages resonate with them, and
- 14:20how you can continue communicating those
- 14:22messages in different ways. Because an
- 14:25individual winning creative might
- 14:27eventually stop performing. They They
- 14:28always do. But the insight is what made
- 14:30that creative successful, and that can
- 14:32help you produce five or 10 more
- 14:34winners. And to me, that's a lot more
- 14:36valuable than just finding one good ad.
- 14:38Number five, one product may need
- 14:40different ads for different stages. So,
- 14:42another thing that I think people will
- 14:44overlook is that a creative can perform
- 14:46extremely well for one audience and
- 14:48poorly for another, even when you're
- 14:50advertising the same product. And a lot
- 14:51of the times, it comes down to where the
- 14:53customer is in their purchasing journey.
- 14:55A retargeting ad might work for the
- 14:56low-hanging fruit, but not for a new
- 14:58customer who needs to learn about your
- 14:59product. And we've worked with a
- 15:01pickleball brand, and one thing we
- 15:02noticed was that there's always several
- 15:04different ways we can advertise the same
- 15:06paddle. We could show someone actually
- 15:07playing pickleball, demonstrate the
- 15:09paddle in action, and etc., etc. We can
- 15:11create a more technical breakdown
- 15:13explaining the paddle's construction,
- 15:15the materials, the performance
- 15:16characteristics, hit stronger, get more
- 15:19agile, whatever. We can produce content
- 15:21helping the customers understand what
- 15:22paddle was best suited for their skill
- 15:24level. There's so many different ways to
- 15:26show this paddle, why it's important to
- 15:28you, and which one's the most effective
- 15:29to use for paid ads. And what we found
- 15:31was the gameplay style creatives worked
- 15:33actually really well at the top of
- 15:35funnel when we were introducing people
- 15:37to the brand. Maybe the movement was
- 15:38engaging, who knows? And they kind of
- 15:40make sense because someone who's
- 15:42scrolling through Instagram never heard
- 15:44of this company probably isn't looking
- 15:45for a detailed technical explanation of
- 15:48the paddle and the materials. Like, why
- 15:49would they care? But they might stop
- 15:51scrolling when they see an interesting
- 15:53gameplay video that catches their
- 15:54attention, especially if they're in that
- 15:57world and they can kind of see skill
- 15:59where it is. Now, once that same person
- 16:01has already discovered the brand,
- 16:02visited the website, started considering
- 16:04the product, and more technical
- 16:05information become a lot more relevant.
- 16:07They're further along in the buying
- 16:09process, and they're looking for the
- 16:10information that helps them make a smart
- 16:13purchasing decision. In this particular
- 16:15account, those technical breakdowns
- 16:16worked better in retargeting, not for
- 16:19top of funnel. So, imagine if we only
- 16:20tested those technical videos against
- 16:23cold audiences, saw that they weren't
- 16:25performing as well as the gameplay
- 16:26creatives, and decided to stop running
- 16:28them forever, right? And a lot of people
- 16:30put everything in one campaign, and
- 16:31etc., etc. It just doesn't work like
- 16:33this. We could have eliminated something
- 16:34valuable simply because we were showing
- 16:36it to the wrong person, or maybe just at
- 16:38the wrong time. This is why I don't
- 16:40think the question should always be
- 16:41which creative performed the best
- 16:43overall. I also want to understand what
- 16:45creative performed the best for which
- 16:47audience at a certain [music] stage of
- 16:49the funnel. Sometimes a creative isn't
- 16:51inherently good or bad, it's just
- 16:53positioned in the wrong context. And if
- 16:55you're getting traffic and add to carts,
- 16:57and you still can't tell what constraint
- 16:59is holding back the business, that's the
- 17:00work that we do at ADVT Media. We look
- 17:03at the campaigns, the creatives, the
- 17:04website funnel, the economics together,
- 17:07then show you where the next dollar has
- 17:08the most leverage. Go to the link
- 17:10description below to book a call, and
- 17:12we'll talk soon. But, number six, small
- 17:15and large accounts should not follow the
- 17:17same playbook. Let's talk about scale,
- 17:19because the advice that helps a $100,000
- 17:22a month account can waste a smaller
- 17:23brand's entire budget. And
- 17:25unfortunately, the strategies you hear
- 17:27on YouTube is exactly that happening. It
- 17:30might work for them, but not for you. I
- 17:32think one of the worst things smaller
- 17:34e-commerce brands can do is blindly copy
- 17:37the strategies that they're seeing from
- 17:38advertisers managing significantly
- 17:40larger budgets. And I see this all the
- 17:42time. Someone watches a video on how a
- 17:44brand spending $50,000 a day structures
- 17:47its campaigns, how they produce 10 ads a
- 17:50week, and just toss them into the
- 17:51campaigns, and suddenly they want to
- 17:53implement that same strategy in an
- 17:55account that's spending 30 or $100 a
- 17:57day. But, those two things are
- 17:59completely different situations, and
- 18:01they require different approaches,
- 18:02different structures. If you're spending
- 18:04under $1,000 a day, you might be able to
- 18:06scale your business with three to five
- 18:08really strong creatives. You don't need
- 18:10to produce 50 new creatives a month, and
- 18:12you probably don't need 15 different
- 18:14campaigns competing for the same limited
- 18:16budget. Your priority should be
- 18:18identifying what's working,
- 18:20understanding why it's working, and
- 18:21allocating your budget towards the
- 18:23things that have the most leverage or
- 18:25the highest probability of producing
- 18:27results. Now, compare that to a business
- 18:29operating at $50,000 a day. At that
- 18:31level, you're putting a significantly
- 18:33larger amount of spend behind your
- 18:34creatives, and you're potentially going
- 18:36to need a much faster process for
- 18:37introducing new concepts because each
- 18:39individual ad is absorbing considerably
- 18:41more budget. You have more data, you
- 18:44have more opportunities to test, and
- 18:46ideally, more resources of available to
- 18:48support that production. Because even if
- 18:50you toss in 10 new ads a week or a day,
- 18:53you have enough budget for each ad to
- 18:55get the data required to let the
- 18:56flywheel spin. You don't have that at
- 18:58$30 a day. And the same thing applies to
- 19:00campaign structure and automation. I'm
- 19:02not against broad targeting and
- 19:03automating campaigns. I think those
- 19:05tools can be incredibly valuable and we
- 19:07use them. But, I also think you need to
- 19:09understand how much control you're
- 19:10giving up and whether that actually
- 19:11makes sense for the account that you're
- 19:13currently managing. If you're spending a
- 19:15few hundred dollars a day, you don't
- 19:16necessarily have all of the budget five
- 19:18or 10 different strategies run
- 19:20simultaneously while you wait to see
- 19:22which one works. You also have to be
- 19:24careful about scaling something too
- 19:26quickly just because it generated a few
- 19:27purchases. I get on calls all the time
- 19:29where they find a winning ad, and then
- 19:31they want to scale at a 1.5 return. It
- 19:33just doesn't make sense. We've all seen
- 19:35creatives that have a incredible first
- 19:37day or first week and then completely
- 19:39fall apart once you put more money
- 19:40behind them. A good initial result is
- 19:42encouraging. I actually think it's
- 19:44really good proof of concept that your
- 19:45market is there and they want your
- 19:46product, but that doesn't automatically
- 19:48mean the creative has enough evidence
- 19:50behind it to support aggressive scaling.
- 19:53The soft metrics also have to matter.
- 19:55So, I think the biggest takeaway here is
- 19:57you need to match your strategy to the
- 19:59actual scale of the business. Don't
- 20:01complicate things just because you see
- 20:03larger brands doing something
- 20:04differently. It's for them. A simpler
- 20:06strategy that's appropriate for your
- 20:08budget and supported by the data will
- 20:10often be far more valuable than trying
- 20:12to imitate a much larger advertising
- 20:15operation, especially in a different
- 20:16industry. Number seven, sometimes the
- 20:18best ad optimization happens after the
- 20:21click. I know after the click, I keep
- 20:23saying this, but this is another concept
- 20:25I think every e-commerce founder should
- 20:27really, really, really understand. And
- 20:28that's the fact that ROAS is an output
- 20:31of several different inputs. It's not
- 20:33the same independent number that the
- 20:35advertising platform controls on its
- 20:37own. Your cost per click matters, your
- 20:39conversion rate matters, your average
- 20:41order value matters, and your customer
- 20:43lifetime value matters when determining
- 20:45how much you can afford to spend
- 20:46acquiring the customer. So, let me give
- 20:48you a really simple example. Let's say
- 20:50you're spending a $1,000 a day on
- 20:51advertising and generating 100 purchases
- 20:54with an average order value of $30. That
- 20:56is $3,000 in revenue or a three times
- 20:59return on ad spend. Now, imagine we
- 21:01don't change anything about the
- 21:02advertising. We're spending the exact
- 21:04same amount, getting the exact same
- 21:05amount of traffic, and generating the
- 21:07same number of purchases. But instead of
- 21:09a $30 average order value, we increase
- 21:12that to 45. Bundle, an upsell, whatever.
- 21:15We're now generating [music] $4,500 in
- 21:17revenue, which means our ROAS increased
- 21:19from a three to a 4.5 without making a
- 21:21single change to the ads. And if we can
- 21:23increase average order value to 70, now
- 21:26we're generating $7,000 in revenue from
- 21:28the exact same advertising budget.
- 21:30Obviously, you need to make sure those
- 21:32additional sales dollars are translating
- 21:33into healthy margins, but I believe this
- 21:35illustrates how much opportunity can
- 21:37exist outside of the advertising
- 21:39platform. We actually had an example
- 21:41with this baby bedding brand. They were
- 21:42selling products like crib sheets,
- 21:44pillows, blankets, crib skirts, and we
- 21:46noticed that the customers were
- 21:47frequently purchasing multiple
- 21:49complementary products [music] together
- 21:51on their own, manually. But they were
- 21:53having to go through the website and
- 21:55assemble these things themselves. So,
- 21:57rather than just continuing to advertise
- 21:59each product individually, we identified
- 22:01an opportunity to package those into a
- 22:03complete bundle. Instead of only
- 22:05offering something like a $70 crib
- 22:07sheet, we could now present a complete
- 22:09welcome home bundle around $200. And
- 22:12what's interesting about that is we're
- 22:13not necessarily asking Meta to find us
- 22:16[music] cheaper customers or generate
- 22:17more traffic or test this creative and
- 22:19this concept and this angle. We're
- 22:21creating an opportunity to generate
- 22:23significantly more revenue from the
- 22:24customers we're already acquiring while
- 22:27also making it convenient for them to
- 22:29purchase everything that they need. And
- 22:30so, again, it's not so complex. It's not
- 22:33so I have to learn Meta ads. It's we
- 22:35have to learn the customer. And I think
- 22:36this is where founders need to start
- 22:38thinking about advertising as part of
- 22:40the broader business rather than
- 22:42something that operates independently.
- 22:44If you can improve your average order
- 22:45value, introduce complimentary products,
- 22:49create a better bundle, or build
- 22:51stronger post-purchase experience, those
- 22:53things [music] can completely change the
- 22:54economics of acquiring customers. And I
- 22:57don't think discounting should
- 22:58automatically be the answer, either.
- 23:00It's very easy to offer 20 or 30% off
- 23:03and see your conversion rate improve.
- 23:05But, what happens to your margins? Are
- 23:07you actually making more money or are
- 23:09you just generating more revenue at a
- 23:11lower profit? Those are questions we
- 23:13need to be asking. Sometimes the best
- 23:15thing you can do for your advertising
- 23:17isn't to improve your cost per click or
- 23:19your CTR. It's to improve the amount of
- 23:21value the business generates from each
- 23:23customer because once those economics
- 23:25improve, you potentially create much
- 23:27more room to acquire customers
- 23:29profitably at [music] scale. And don't
- 23:31take this as you need a high AOV to make
- 23:33advertising work. It just makes it work
- 23:35a lot easier. Number eight, platform
- 23:37attribution isn't the same as
- 23:38incrementality. The next lesson is
- 23:40something I think separates people who
- 23:42understand how to operate Ads Manager
- 23:44from people who really understand how
- 23:46advertising impacts a business. And
- 23:48that's the difference between
- 23:49attribution and incrementality. Let's
- 23:52say someone sees your product right on
- 23:53Instagram for the first time. They've
- 23:55never heard of your company. It's
- 23:56usually how it goes, but your ad catches
- 23:58their attention for a second or two.
- 24:00They watch the video, maybe visit the
- 24:02website, then continue scrolling without
- 24:04purchasing. Very common, happens all the
- 24:06time. A few days later, they remember
- 24:08your product. They search for your brand
- 24:09on Google, click the branded search ad,
- 24:12and then complete the purchase. Or,
- 24:14sometimes what happens is they go from
- 24:15Google, sign up for the newsletter,
- 24:17leave, click on the email, now go back
- 24:19to the website and purchase. Now,
- 24:20depending on the attribution settings,
- 24:22Google or the email or whatever might be
- 24:24reporting that conversion. And Meta may
- 24:26also be taking some credit or maybe not
- 24:29if it's outside of the 7-day attribution
- 24:30window, but here's the important
- 24:32question. How would that customer have
- 24:33purchased from your business would have
- 24:35never seen the meta ad in the first
- 24:37place and that's something you can't
- 24:38necessarily determine just by looking at
- 24:40the platform's dashboard or even Shopify
- 24:42sometimes will say that that's a direct
- 24:44purchase or direct customer because the
- 24:45difference between that platform
- 24:47receiving credit for a purchase and a
- 24:48platform actually creating incremental
- 24:50demand, that distinction is incredibly
- 24:52important when you're deciding where to
- 24:54allocate your advertising budget. The
- 24:56email sale or the Google sale never
- 24:58would have happened without the initial
- 25:00touch point. I've seen situations where
- 25:02a brand's meta advertising is
- 25:04introducing a significant number of new
- 25:06people to its products, but some of
- 25:07those people ultimately complete their
- 25:09purchases through Google and you can
- 25:10have similar situations with Amazon
- 25:13where someone discovers a product on
- 25:14Instagram but decides to purchase it on
- 25:16Amazon later. Now, we have to be careful
- 25:17here because just because branded search
- 25:19volume or Amazon sales increased while
- 25:21you're running ads doesn't automatically
- 25:23prove that meta caused those sales. You
- 25:25need the stronger evidence potentially
- 25:27including incrementality testing before
- 25:30making that claim, but it's absolutely
- 25:32possible for advertising on one platform
- 25:34to influence buying behavior that
- 25:36eventually gets recorded somewhere else.
- 25:37We have people on the team internally
- 25:39here that when they see ads they never
- 25:40buy on the websites. They always check
- 25:42on Amazon first. Your customers are
- 25:43probably doing the same thing a certain
- 25:45percentage of them and this is why I'm
- 25:46such a big believer in looking at
- 25:48blended performance and understanding
- 25:50what's happening across the entire
- 25:51business. If we're increasing
- 25:53advertising spend on meta, what's
- 25:54happening to total revenue? What's
- 25:56happening to new customer acquisition?
- 25:58How are emails and subscriptions being
- 26:00affected? Are we generating more
- 26:02contribution profit? Is the business
- 26:03actually growing in a healthy way on
- 26:05other channels as well because
- 26:07ultimately that's what matters. It's an
- 26:08ecosystem. It's not meta versus Google
- 26:10versus email and I don't want to make
- 26:12decisions exclusively based on whether
- 26:14each platform reporting has the highest
- 26:16ROAS. It's once you get to a certain
- 26:18point ROAS is kind of silly. I want to
- 26:20understand what is contributing to
- 26:22growth of the entire business. Once you
- 26:24start looking at advertising that way
- 26:26you start to understand that the
- 26:27platform dashboard is just one piece of
- 26:29the puzzle. It's useful, but it doesn't
- 26:31tell the entire story, which leads me to
- 26:33number nine. Flashy platform updates are
- 26:36not a strategy. Unfortunately, hate to
- 26:38break it to you.
- 26:40All the YouTube videos are fake, but and
- 26:41I think having that broader
- 26:42understanding is especially important
- 26:44today because every time Meta announces
- 26:47some new update, it seems like the
- 26:49entire advertising industry is they just
- 26:51start trying to convince everybody that
- 26:52they need to change their strategy
- 26:54completely. Whether it's Andromeda, AI
- 26:56generated creatives, or some new auto
- 26:58mated campaign, whatever feature or
- 27:00whatever happens to be getting attention
- 27:02that month, everybody suddenly has an
- 27:03opinion about the new best way to run
- 27:05Facebook ads. Now, I want to be clear.
- 27:07These updates obviously matter. The way
- 27:09Meta delivers ads changes and as
- 27:11advertisers, we need to absolutely
- 27:12understand what's happening and how
- 27:14those changes might affect performance,
- 27:15right? We always want to be open to AB
- 27:17test, but I think people get so caught
- 27:18up in these updates that they forget
- 27:20about the things that actually drive
- 27:21results. If your product page is
- 27:23converting at a terrible rate, hate to
- 27:25break it to you, but Andromeda isn't
- 27:26magically going to fix that. If your
- 27:28average order value is too low to
- 27:29support profitable customer acquisition,
- 27:31producing another 50 AI creatives isn't
- 27:33necessarily going to solve your problem
- 27:35either. And if customers are abandoning
- 27:36your checkout because of your shipping
- 27:38costs are too high, completely
- 27:39restructuring your campaigns probably
- 27:42isn't going to make much of a
- 27:43difference. And this is where I think a
- 27:45lot of agencies and media buyers, they
- 27:46just get distracted almost. They'll
- 27:48spend hours talking about the latest
- 27:50algorithm changes or which campaign
- 27:52structure Meta supposedly prefers, but
- 27:54they can't actually explain why the
- 27:56business that they're advertising for
- 27:58isn't profitable. To me, that's a much
- 28:01bigger problem than not understanding
- 28:03the latest platform update. When you
- 28:04work with an agency who just says, "Give
- 28:06it 3 more months. Give it more time. Let
- 28:08the campaigns learn. It'll figure it
- 28:09out." Isn't that a bigger problem than
- 28:11actually understanding what the next
- 28:12step should be? And the fundamentals of
- 28:14advertising haven't disappeared, whether
- 28:16Andromeda came out or not. You still
- 28:18need to understand your customer,
- 28:19communicate why your product is
- 28:20valuable, create advertisements that
- 28:22resonate with your market, send people
- 28:23to a website that converts, and make
- 28:24sure the economics support your
- 28:26acquisition cost. Like, where is
- 28:27Andromeda in there? And think that's
- 28:29where the focus should be. We absolutely
- 28:31We to take advantage of improvements in
- 28:33advertising technology, but those tools
- 28:35should support the fundamentals, support
- 28:38the strategy. They shouldn't become the
- 28:40strategy because when things change,
- 28:42your strategy dies, basically. At the
- 28:45end of the day, no one really cares how
- 28:46familiar you are with the latest updates
- 28:48if you can't actually grow the business.
- 28:49What matters is whether you can identify
- 28:51the problems preventing the growth,
- 28:53understand which opportunities are worth
- 28:55pursuing, [music] and make informed
- 28:56decisions about where to invest the next
- 28:59dollar. 10, your best practice is still
- 29:01only a hypothesis. And the last lesson I
- 29:04want to share is probably one of the
- 29:06most important things I've learned from
- 29:08managing advertising across so many
- 29:10different e-commerce brands. Just
- 29:11because something worked extremely well
- 29:13in one advertising account, doesn't mean
- 29:15it's going to work in another, even for
- 29:17the same industry, even for the same
- 29:18products. I think one of the biggest
- 29:20problems with advertising advice is that
- 29:22everybody wants to speak in absolutes.
- 29:24You'll hear people say that broad
- 29:26targeting is always better than interest
- 29:28targeting, that look-alike audiences
- 29:29don't work anymore, that UGC is the only
- 29:32creative format you should be testing,
- 29:33or that static images are dead and it's
- 29:362026 and yada yada. And I just don't
- 29:39agree with those kind of statements
- 29:40because I've seen too many accounts
- 29:42where where the exact opposite is true.
- 29:44I've seen comments that say, "You're
- 29:45still doing interest in post-Andromeda?"
- 29:48Well, I have right now interest
- 29:50targeting campaigns that outperform my
- 29:51broad targeting at a six times return.
- 29:53I've seen look-alike audiences
- 29:54performing incredibly well. I've seen
- 29:56simple static images outperform
- 29:57expensive UGC videos that brands
- 29:59invested a lot of time and money into
- 30:01producing. I've also seen broad
- 30:03targeting and UGC outperform everything
- 30:05else completely in different accounts.
- 30:07So, which one is right? Well, it depends
- 30:09on the business, and I know that sounds
- 30:11like a boring answer, but that's the
- 30:12reality of advertising. This is why the
- 30:14AB tests are so important because every
- 30:16brand has different products, different
- 30:17customers, different price points,
- 30:19different levels of awareness, different
- 30:20ads, different landing page, different
- 30:22colors, different amounts of money
- 30:23available to spend on acquisition. Like,
- 30:25if the conditions change, should we
- 30:27expect the same results? This is why we
- 30:30have to figure out what's good for you,
- 30:31and that's why I think the role of an
- 30:32experienced advertiser isn't to come
- 30:34into every account and immediately
- 30:35[music] implement the exact same
- 30:37strategy. Experience should give you a
- 30:39better understanding of what to test
- 30:41first and what opportunities have a
- 30:43higher probability of producing results
- 30:46that you want. At the end of the day,
- 30:47even those are hypotheses because
- 30:50they're not guarantees. This is
- 30:51something I try to emphasize with our
- 30:53testing process at EDVT Media. I don't
- 30:55want to assume a creative's going to
- 30:56work just because we've seen that format
- 30:58perform well before. I don't want to
- 31:00assume that broad targeting is
- 31:01automatically going to be the answer
- 31:03just because it worked for the client
- 31:05before. I want us to develop a
- 31:06hypothesis, test it, look at the data,
- 31:09what does your customer say, and then
- 31:10use what we learned to make the next
- 31:12decision. We build the engine for you.
- 31:15We don't just hope that a strategy works
- 31:17and then we're spinning our wheels and
- 31:19not really sure where to go next when it
- 31:20doesn't. And I think this is where a lot
- 31:22of advertisers also become their own
- 31:23worst enemies. If you become too
- 31:25attached to a certain strategy and you
- 31:27listen too much to everybody else,
- 31:29you'll eventually start looking for
- 31:30evidence that supports what you already
- 31:33believe rather than objectively
- 31:34evaluating what's actually happening.
- 31:36You don't want to test interest because
- 31:38you think broad's going to work. You'll
- 31:39keep trying to make your favorite
- 31:40campaign structure work and wonder why
- 31:42it's not. You'll dismiss a creative
- 31:44format because someone told you it was
- 31:45outdated even though the data might be
- 31:47telling you something completely
- 31:48different. The whole process of testing
- 31:50is to eliminate the guesswork as much as
- 31:52possible. And the more you test, the
- 31:54more you learn about the customers
- 31:55you're actually trying to reach. You'll
- 31:57start understanding what messages work
- 31:59with them, which offers motivate them,
- 32:01which creatives generate purchasing
- 32:03behavior and just attention which parts
- 32:05of the funnel need improvement. When you
- 32:07combine all of that with the
- 32:08understanding of the business economics,
- 32:10that's where I think advertising becomes
- 32:12really powerful because the goal isn't
- 32:14to build the most complicated ad account
- 32:15or find a creative that generates a
- 32:17great return for a few days. The goal is
- 32:19to build a system or an engine, we like
- 32:21to call it internally, where you
- 32:22consistently understand why it's
- 32:24working, what needs to happen next to
- 32:26continue growing. And I think that's
- 32:28really the biggest lesson from
- 32:29everything we've covered. If you want to
- 32:31become better at advertising, you need
- 32:33to stop looking at it as just launching
- 32:35campaigns and optimizing ads. You need
- 32:37to fully understand how advertising
- 32:40connects to the entire business. From
- 32:42the first time someone discovers your
- 32:43product all the way through purchase and
- 32:46beyond. Because once you understand
- 32:47that, your decisions become much more
- 32:49intentional. You're no longer just
- 32:51reacting to whatever the dashboard tells
- 32:53you or chasing whatever new tactic
- 32:55everybody is talking about on YouTube.
- 32:57You're actually identifying the biggest
- 32:59opportunities to improve your
- 33:00performance and putting your resources
- 33:03towards [music] the things that matter
- 33:05most. And if you want to apply this
- 33:06judgment to the message inside of the
- 33:08ad, watch how to make Facebook ads so
- 33:10good they can't stop themselves from
- 33:12buying next. I built the full buying
- 33:14decision around one cleansing balm
- 33:16example from the customer's problem to
- 33:18the hook, product, proof, offer and
- 33:20landing page. Click the video on the
- 33:22screen and I'll walk you through
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