Getaway Driver Claims He’s a Witness | Garreontai Holmes Interrogation — Transcript

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1. 0:00I'm telling you, I know everything.
2. 0:02>> Help yourself.
3. 0:03>> I love my life, yeah. I sell, buddy.
4. 0:06Gee, I am trying. I'm trying.
5. 0:10Disclaimer. This video is for commentary
6. 0:12and educational purposes only. All
7. 0:14individuals are presumed innocent until
8. 0:16proven guilty in a court of law.
9. 0:18Any footage used in this video is
10. 0:20obtained through public records and
11. 0:22falls under fair use for the purpose of
12. 0:23reporting, analysis, and public
13. 0:25interest. On the evening of October
14. 0:2720th, 2022, [music]
15. 0:29gunfire shattered the quiet of a
16. 0:31suburban apartment complex in West
17. 0:33Chester Township, [music]
18. 0:34Ohio.
19. 0:35Residents later told police they heard a
20. 0:37rapid burst of shots. Not one or two,
21. 0:39but a sudden volley followed by screams
22. 0:41[music] that sent families scrambling
23. 0:43for cover inside their homes.
24. 0:45When officers arrived at the Meadow
25. 0:47Ridge Apartments,
26. 0:48>> [music]
27. 0:48>> they found 22-year-old Keshawn Sanders
28. 0:51slumped inside his parked car.
29. 0:53He had been shot multiple times at
30. 0:55[music] close range. The driver's side
31. 0:57window was blown out by gunfire.
32. 0:59Sanders was rushed to the hospital, but
33. 1:01he did not [music] survive.
34. 1:02Investigators would quickly determine
35. 1:04this was not a random act of violence.
36. 1:07The shooting appeared deliberate,
37. 1:08targeted, [music]
38. 1:09and planned. Detectives began piecing
39. 1:11together a trail that stretched beyond
40. 1:13Butler County into Cincinnati [music]
41. 1:15and into the orbit of an ongoing gang
42. 1:17feud that had already produced gunfire
43. 1:19weeks earlier. At the center of that
44. 1:21investigation was a vehicle seen
45. 1:23circling the parking [music] lot and the
46. 1:25man behind the wheel.
47. 1:26This is the interrogation of Garon Ty
48. 1:28Allen Holmes.
49. 1:30So, I'm going to read to you again, just
50. 1:32so you're aware of it. Um again, I'm
51. 1:34Detective Burger. This is Sergeant
52. 1:35Ferrisi, you met with We met with you
53. 1:37about a month or so ago. A little over a
54. 1:39month, I think.
55. 1:40All right.
56. 1:41I am a police officer. I warn you that
57. 1:43you have the right to remain silent and
58. 1:44anything you say can and will be used in
59. 1:46a court of law against you. That you
60. 1:47have the right to consult with a lawyer
61. 1:49before and during any questioning and to
62. 1:50have a lawyer present with you while
63. 1:52you're being questioned. That if you
64. 1:53cannot afford a lawyer, one will be
65. 1:55appointed to you free for any
66. 1:57questioning that you may stop talking to
67. 1:59me or any other officer police officer
68. 2:01at any time during questions. Do you
69. 2:03understand all these rights as I've read
70. 2:04them to you? Yes, sir. All right.
71. 2:06Knowing these rights, do you wish to
72. 2:07talk with me without having a lawyer
73. 2:08present? You can stop at any time.
74. 2:12My answer is my questions going to be
75. 2:14answered like honestly.
76. 2:16Say Say that again. I didn't understand
77. 2:18you. Say it again. I asked our questions
78. 2:20is going to be answered honestly. Cuz
79. 2:21no, I'm human, bro. I got I'm a Libra.
80. 2:24I've been going to jail my whole life,
81. 2:26bro. I swear, bro. Like you're like I
82. 2:27don't know, bro. I put on my clothes
83. 2:29like I
84. 2:30do, bro. Mhm. I don't want to be here,
85. 2:31bro. I don't need to be here, bro. I got
86. 2:34love I got a whole family I take care of
87. 2:36every day. Every day of my life, bro, I
88. 2:39take care of my family.
89. 2:41The last time we met, did we
90. 2:43yell at you? We We were professional
91. 2:45>> and I didn't want to talk, bro, cuz look
92. 2:47No, we didn't. Listen to me. I'm in
93. 2:49jail, right? Yeah. Bro, it's nothing but
94. 2:51it's nothing but gangbangers in there,
95. 2:53bro.
96. 2:54I don't want to say something, bro, and
97. 2:56then I go back I'm not The first off, I
98. 2:57won't even get like out. I won't go back
99. 2:59upstairs to the pod, bro, and them going
100. 3:01to stab me up, bro, for real. I was
101. 3:03going to die in there. And then it's
102. 3:05like say something and then down the
103. 3:06street like my They know my girl live at
104. 3:09like down the street, too. Yeah. But
105. 3:11then it's like as soon as Bro, y'all
106. 3:12don't understand, bro. Every time I
107. 3:14start getting my [ __ ] off on track, bro,
108. 3:16I'm right back down to the bottom.
109. 3:18Like right back down to the bottom.
110. 3:19>> Garry Ante, I'm going to sign this. I
111. 3:21want you to sign this and Sergeant
112. 3:22Ferris is going to sign this, okay?
113. 3:27I
114. 3:28what you're dealing with right now.
115. 3:30Now, I don't know what it feels like
116. 3:31because I don't have that on my head,
117. 3:33but I know that, okay?
118. 3:34>> My conscience I ain't even did [ __ ] My
119. 3:36conscience You hear me? Again?
120. 3:38Hey, you hear me? Listen to me. The only
121. 3:40reason I ain't been clean, bro, I don't
122. 3:42want to Bro, my girl is my world, bro.
123. 3:44She pregnant with my kid. My mama got
124. 3:46seven kids, bro. I take care of
125. 3:47everyone, bro. I take them all to
126. 3:49school, bro. I make sure they do right.
127. 3:51I don't nobody kill my family. Listen to
128. 3:53me.
129. 3:54Sign this really quick and then I can
130. 3:56talk to you, okay? And then if you don't
131. 3:58feel comfortable, you can always stop.
132. 3:59See, I told them where y'all came and
133. 4:00got me.
134. 4:01I will tell you everything, okay?
135. 4:05But I have I have to advise you of these
136. 4:07rights, right? Okay.
137. 4:10So, I want to make sure that you're
138. 4:11clear and understand, okay?
139. 4:13All right.
140. 4:14Gordon, last time we talked, if I
141. 4:15remember right, you said you got your
142. 4:16GED, right? Yes. Okay. So, you're
143. 4:18educated. I just want to make So, we're
144. 4:20all on the same page.
145. 4:21All right. I just want to go home. All
146. 4:22right. It is 10:30. I love my family
147. 4:24like you guys, bro. I swear, bro. I'm
148. 4:26coming there and you I don't run or
149. 4:28nothing, bro. I never
150. 4:30Listen, we appreciate that, okay? We do
151. 4:32appreciate that you are showing
152. 4:34you're showing the signs that we are
153. 4:36looking for.
154. 4:37Okay. I just want to be home with my
155. 4:39family, bro. Y'all don't understand.
156. 4:40>> Okay. Y'all don't understand that. So,
157. 4:41here's the deal. Here's the deal. Man,
158. 4:42you look like you don't want to hear
159. 4:43that, bro. This is my life. No. No, so
160. 4:46I'm sorry cuz I don't been I don't been
161. 4:48hurt before, bro. You know I got Y'all
162. 4:50can read my record, bro. I don't been
163. 4:51here before. I don't been here before. I
164. 4:54don't seen it all. I don't seen it all
165. 4:55happen. I don't seen killers go to go to
166. 4:58jail, bro. And die in jail.
167. 5:01For real.
168. 5:02Y'all don't understand, bro, cuz this is
169. 5:04my life that I'm trying to say and I'm
170. 5:05only 22. So, as I get older, bro, and I
171. 5:08get older, bro, I seen and I seen and I
172. 5:10seen and I'm looking at the patterns and
173. 5:12I'm being like, "No, I don't do that."
174. 5:14Or, "No, I don't do that." Y'all I just
175. 5:16want to explain how hard I be trying,
176. 5:18bro, cuz don't nobody know that. They
177. 5:20only They only see the wrong. They don't
178. 5:21see how hard you try. They don't see the
179. 5:23good you try to do. They don't see none
180. 5:25of that. All they see is the bad I
181. 5:27always have, bro. Okay. And then I know
182. 5:28it's not child job or whoever job, but
183. 5:31it's like they just want to lock you up,
184. 5:32bro. They just want to see you in jail,
185. 5:34bro. They just want to see me locked up.
186. 5:35Even when you come into me like, "I know
187. 5:37you ain't do this and I know you ain't
188. 5:38so why am I still Why am I still in
189. 5:40jail?" Like, y'all want to see me in
190. 5:42jail. Why do I have to be the one in
191. 5:44jail?
192. 5:47Ultimately,
193. 5:49because you're a
194. 5:50with
195. 5:51people that you shouldn't be associating
196. 5:53with. You're hanging out with people you
197. 5:54shouldn't be hanging out
198. 5:55>> hang with them like that. I don't even
199. 5:56know them like that, bro. I swear I'm
200. 5:58just the type of person, bro, if you
201. 5:59call This is This is This is
202. 6:02This is where we're at. Okay?
203. 6:05If I didn't think you were a good
204. 6:06person,
205. 6:08I would tell you to go to hell and
206. 6:09that'd be done with it, right? I
207. 6:11wouldn't do I wouldn't be here at all. I
208. 6:13wouldn't have came to you the last time.
209. 6:15Listen, I wouldn't have came to you the
210. 6:16last time. What I'm trying to say is,
211. 6:18bro, I would have been
212. 6:20Y'all ain't hearing me. Bro,
213. 6:22my family get that.
214. 6:24Bro, I don't gang bang. I'm not with no
215. 6:26gang. That's why when you said that gang
216. 6:27stuff, I'm not with no gang. Ain't
217. 6:29nobody going to protect me. Ain't nobody
218. 6:31going to save me. Ain't nobody going to
219. 6:32save me in jail. Ain't nobody going to
220. 6:34protect me in jail. That's why I'm
221. 6:35trying to be back at home with my
222. 6:37family, even if it is on a box.
223. 6:40My family all I care about, bro. I'm who
224. 6:42protect them. Who going to watch over
225. 6:44us? Who going to watch over them? Nobody
226. 6:46going to watch over them and protect
227. 6:47them. Nobody care about them. And this
228. 6:49matter is the utmost serious.
229. 6:52Absolutely. This is the utmost serious.
230. 6:54Mhm.
231. 6:55No, I hear you. This is the utmost
232. 6:56serious, bro.
233. 6:58And then it's like I don't even like I
234. 7:00know y'all have been through this a
235. 7:01million times, bro, but y'all don't even
236. 7:02understand like I know y'all understand
237. 7:05the seriousness, bro, but it's just like
238. 7:07Boom, all right. I say something.
239. 7:10Boom, I say something.
240. 7:12Let's say I say something and I do go
241. 7:13home.
242. 7:14Now I'm like this.
243. 7:16Everywhere I go, for real. Now I'm like
244. 7:19No.
245. 7:20Don't get me wrong.
246. 7:20>> I just came home off the box. I was
247. 7:23terrified. You know You know why?
248. 7:25Because y'all ask me questions. That's
249. 7:26enough to kill. Yeah.
250. 7:28Cuz y'all know this right out I've been
251. 7:30doing this y'all been dealing with
252. 7:31people like this for so long, bro.
253. 7:34Y'all know. Mhm. So y'all ask me, bro,
254. 7:36that put my life at risk.
255. 7:38That put my life out here at risk. And
256. 7:40then it's like it's true he got out, but
257. 7:42I ain't get no charge. Like then now I'm
258. 7:44thinking how they say what he is that we
259. 7:45know.
260. 7:47We know we all three know why why we're
261. 7:49here today.
262. 7:51We know and what I'm saying is bro the
263. 7:53issue is
264. 7:55Let's talk about what I'm saying is bro.
265. 7:59Can I just put yourself in my shoes bro
266. 8:01my life is nothing but jail up and down.
267. 8:04I go to jail and get out and I'm doing
268. 8:06good it's just like lately since I've
269. 8:08been home since I was a juvenile and
270. 8:10I've did juvenile life and
271. 8:12bro I've been doing tools I only caught
272. 8:14little dope cases cuz I don't do I don't
273. 8:16want nothing to do with nothing. The
274. 8:18only time I only ride with a firearm cuz
275. 8:20I know it's murder out there. My friends
276. 8:22dead my my cousins dead everybody dead.
277. 8:25I don't want to die. I don't need no
278. 8:27firearm I don't ride around trying to
279. 8:29shoot people no.
280. 8:32I know y'all got a job to do everyday.
281. 8:36That's y'all everyday job.
282. 8:38That's y'all everyday job bro.
283. 8:40Just to go and get criminals criminals.
284. 8:43Yep and we're good at it. I know it
285. 8:45that's what y'all paid to do. Right
286. 8:47that's what y'all have been doing for
287. 8:48years.
288. 8:49Hereby I see
289. 8:50so
290. 8:52what I'm looking at
291. 8:54is a boy that was shot. All right.
292. 8:58And his family and I got to work my ass
293. 9:00off in order to help his family out.
294. 9:02That's my job that's what I'm paid for
295. 9:04that's what I put food on my kids plates
296. 9:05for all right.
297. 9:07So
298. 9:08the only thing I have been doing since
299. 9:10October the 20th 5:25
300. 9:13p.m.
301. 9:14is been busting my ass to try to prove
302. 9:16this case and I've done that now okay.
303. 9:20It doesn't matter if you pulled the
304. 9:22trigger.
305. 9:23If you
306. 9:25listen to hear me out.
307. 9:28I know
308. 9:30with a 100% certainty in every bone of
309. 9:32my body you knew everything about it.
310. 9:34However let me finish. Bro. I also know
311. 9:38the dude that you might be afraid of
312. 9:40right now is
313. 9:41freaking reckless as all get out. And
314. 9:43yes, your head should be on a swivel.
315. 9:45Yeah, go ahead. Bro, just like you
316. 9:47saying, like I know you know I don't
317. 9:49know anything I love, bro. On my mother,
318. 9:52I never knew, sir. I never knew.
319. 9:54>> Going into it? I never knew, period. I
320. 9:56don't even know who I don't I don't have
321. 9:59no beef with y'all, okay? Mhm. I don't
322. 10:01That's not what I do. But y'all I hope
323. 10:03y'all I hope y'all really look at the
324. 10:05tune, bro. I don't That's not what I do.
325. 10:07That's not my thing. That's not my
326. 10:10thing. So, so when I got a phone call,
327. 10:12like, bro, come run me run me here real
328. 10:14quick.
329. 10:15>> Mhm.
330. 10:16Who? Thank you. I didn't know
331. 10:18he messed me up like that. Thank you.
332. 10:19Thank you. No, cuz look, that's what
333. 10:21we're talking about. Right. So, I'm the
334. 10:23one in jail. I help y'all whatever, bro.
335. 10:27I'm willing to
336. 10:28I just don't need to be in jail, bro.
337. 10:30You're not the You're not the only
338. 10:31person that got indicted.
339. 10:33Okay? You are not the only person.
340. 10:35>> That don't mean Listen. I know there's
341. 10:37other
342. 10:37>> My life matter to me. Your life matters
343. 10:40to me.
344. 10:40>> My life. I don't care about their
345. 10:42indictments. I don't care about what
346. 10:44they I don't care how tough or gangster
347. 10:46they are. Mhm. I want to be with my girl
348. 10:49and my kid and my
349. 10:52dogs and my mom and my Let me start this
350. 10:55out right. Let me start this right out
351. 10:56right. What you just said, I want to
352. 10:58summarize what you just told us.
353. 11:00That
354. 11:01it's a cliché, but I'm going to say it.
355. 11:03Wrong place, wrong time.
356. 11:06Bro.
357. 11:07Is that Is that fair to say? I don't
358. 11:09need to. I don't need to be in jail,
359. 11:10sir. I'm trying to figure out Well, did
360. 11:13I mis- How do I get out of jail, sir?
361. 11:14>> Did I mis-summarize what you just told
362. 11:16us?
363. 11:17Sir, I'm trying to figure out how do I
364. 11:18get out of jail.
365. 11:19I don't need to be here. That's all I'm
366. 11:21trying to say. I don't need to be here.
367. 11:23You look bored. See what I'm saying?
368. 11:24>> I'm not looking bored at all. I'm trying
369. 11:26to I want you to stop. It's my life,
370. 11:28man. It ain't like I'm a I'm a runner or
371. 11:31I'm a murderer or I I
372. 11:33Bro, I I don't see I don't know what I
373. 11:35don't understand how crazy this is.
374. 11:37>> This is This is why we're here today.
375. 11:39And then we're going to tell you why
376. 11:40we're here today, okay? We're here today
377. 11:43to confirm everything that we already
378. 11:45know, okay? We want you to confirm
379. 11:47everything that we already know.
380. 11:49That's plain and simple. I'm laying my
381. 11:51cards out on the table for you right
382. 11:52now.
383. 11:52>> Bro, I'm been laying my cards You know
384. 11:54You know I've been laying my cards on
385. 11:56the table.
386. 11:56>> So you got a phone call from him to come
387. 11:58pick you up.
388. 11:59>> I'm laying my cards on the table. Is
389. 12:00that Is that fair?
390. 12:02That you got a phone call from him to
391. 12:03come pick you up.
392. 12:04>> to go to jail, though. Okay. Let's Let's
393. 12:06talk about that.
394. 12:07>> want to go to jail. I don't want to go
395. 12:08to jail. I don't That's not what I do.
396. 12:11I would just I don't I don't know what
397. 12:12you want.
398. 12:13Okay. Anytime I get a chance to prosper,
399. 12:15bro, it's like I'm selling again.
400. 12:18Then it's like y'all sitting right here
401. 12:19to help me. How can y'all help me?
402. 12:21Well,
403. 12:23unfortunately,
404. 12:25whether you wanted to be in it or got
405. 12:27put into a giant
406. 12:28horrible situation. Okay?
407. 12:32The only way that you're going to find
408. 12:33your way out of it is the truth.
409. 12:36Okay?
410. 12:38That's what we want from you. I know
411. 12:40what the truth is. I've researched the
412. 12:42heck out of it, okay?
413. 12:45And now it's your turn to confirm
414. 12:47everything that we already know.
415. 12:49Okay? If you do that,
416. 12:51that will help you out. If you want
417. 12:53then let's find ourselves a
418. 12:55Let's find a middle place.
419. 12:57Let's find a middle place. That's all
420. 12:58I'm trying I I just want to Truth? I'm
421. 13:00just trying to go home. And you want to
422. 13:01go home.
423. 13:02Yeah, I'm just trying to go home.
424. 13:04That's all I'm trying to do, bro. I'm
425. 13:05just trying to go home, bro. I'mma tell
426. 13:07y'all all facts, bro. I'm just trying to
427. 13:09go home. Let's Let's Let's tell them to
428. 13:10tell you. Just home.
429. 13:11>> Then tell us. Y'all not telling me I'm
430. 13:12going home, though.
431. 13:15Garyon Tay, I can't promise you going
432. 13:17home right now.
433. 13:18I can't promise you that right now.
434. 13:20Okay? We can't promise something we
435. 13:21can't promise.
436. 13:22I'm not going Remember our promise we
437. 13:24said we weren't going to lie to you?
438. 13:25We're not lying to you. We can't promise
439. 13:27that right now. I will tell you the
440. 13:28truth, always. I told you when I talked
441. 13:31to you last time, okay? Verbatim, I
442. 13:34said, "Hey Gary Ante, I'm going to have
443. 13:36to come back and I'm going to testify
444. 13:38against you on the on the 21st."
445. 13:40Listen, if I would have said something
446. 13:42back then, I still would have stayed in
447. 13:45jail.
448. 13:46Not necessarily.
449. 13:48I just want to stay in jail. Why y'all
450. 13:50never said that? Hey Gary Ante, I
451. 13:52wouldn't have went
452. 13:54I never even said that. I never even
453. 13:55said that. I don't want to go to jail.
454. 13:57We went Listen to me.
455. 14:00told me that I would not
456. 14:01Bro, I'm in jail. Y'all never said I was
457. 14:05not going to go We have to Mirandize
458. 14:08you.
459. 14:10We had to Mirandize you. As soon as he
460. 14:12We got finished with the Miranda, you
461. 14:14sunk in your seat and said, "I want an
462. 14:15attorney." We're done. We can't talk to
463. 14:17you anymore.
464. 14:17>> No, y'all said we asked him about such
465. 14:19and such and such and such and such and
466. 14:20such. And then when I said I talked to
467. 14:22the attorney, you still said well we're
468. 14:23going to come back with this black man
469. 14:25and we're going to That's what I said,
470. 14:26then it's not true. Then I went to jail.
471. 14:28And look where you're at.
472. 14:29Look though, y'all never You listen what
473. 14:31I'm trying to say, bro. Y'all never gave
474. 14:33me an opportunity. Bro, it's like y'all
475. 14:34don't give us black men an opportunity.
476. 14:36And then I'm trying to sit here and tell
477. 14:38y'all what y'all want to hear and I'm
478. 14:40still going to get like 8 years, bro. 5
479. 14:41years, 4 years. I'm not going to come
480. 14:43home, bro. I just want to come home,
481. 14:45bro. I didn't do nothing to nobody. I
482. 14:47don't know nothing about doing nothing
483. 14:48to no I'm not I don't do nothing to
484. 14:51nobody. I didn't know no nothing was
485. 14:53done to nobody. I don't Bro,
486. 14:57We believe everything you just said,
487. 14:59that you didn't believe that anything
488. 15:00was going to happen to anybody. We
489. 15:02believe that.
490. 15:04Y'all don't understand, bro. I'm finna
491. 15:06really go to jail. And then it's really
492. 15:07like when I go to jail, they're going to
493. 15:09look me up. It's going to say what I'm
494. 15:11in jail for.
495. 15:13But then it's going to say like, "Oh
496. 15:14yeah, who's that?"
497. 15:16Bro, I don't know what Whoever he hangs
498. 15:18with.
499. 15:21Whoever he hangs with.
500. 15:24I just want you guys to play fair, bro.
501. 15:25I want you guys to play fair with me,
502. 15:27bro, like I play fair with other people,
503. 15:28bro.
504. 15:30Don't come to What do you want me to do?
505. 15:31Come to court and go on the stand? I'll
506. 15:33do whatever you want me to do, bro.
507. 15:35>> Yeah, we want you to cooperate.
508. 15:37>> We're going to be on But sitting here,
509. 15:38listen though.
510. 15:39>> We want you
511. 15:40to confirm everything that we already
512. 15:42know. That's it.
513. 15:43>> I confirm whatever. I just like he's
514. 15:45telling me I'm from the I'm I'm I'm in
515. 15:47here. Yeah, damn, I'm in here.
516. 15:49The prosecutor here in Butler County is
517. 15:51well aware that we're talking to you
518. 15:52right now. Correct. The reason that
519. 15:54we're affording you this opportunity
520. 15:56is because we think you're a good guy.
521. 15:58We think you could do
522. 15:59>> I told you you're giving me an
523. 16:00opportunity.
524. 16:00>> That's what I'm doing right now. Do you
525. 16:02think I'm giving anybody else that might
526. 16:03be involved in this this opportunity?
527. 16:05No, we're not talking to them. We're not
528. 16:07talking to them.
529. 16:08But y'all talk to people regardless,
530. 16:10bro. That's what y'all do. Y'all come,
531. 16:12y'all ask, and then y'all get a warrant,
532. 16:14then y'all ask again. That's what y'all
533. 16:15do.
534. 16:17You see what I'm saying?
535. 16:18So, this is what we're saying, right
536. 16:20here.
537. 16:21Straight talk, okay? This What we're
538. 16:23talking right now is being recorded. I
539. 16:25know. You understand that, right? Okay.
540. 16:27So, everything we say to you is being
541. 16:28recorded.
542. 16:30We're telling you right now, we want you
543. 16:31to cooperate with us. And our
544. 16:33cooperation is you're going to confirm
545. 16:34everything that happened in this
546. 16:36investigation, and your cooperation goes
547. 16:38a very long way. Okay? We are not Me and
548. 16:41him are not the deciding makers of what
549. 16:43how far that goes. The prosecutor is,
550. 16:46okay? But we need to have an olive
551. 16:47branch start so we have something to
552. 16:49take to him.
553. 16:50Right now, there's a book being written
554. 16:52about this incident, okay? Everybody has
555. 16:53their Okay? We need to hear
556. 16:56out of your mouth what your chapter is.
557. 16:59I already I already explained to you
558. 17:00that that already sounds like a guy at
559. 17:02the wrong place at the wrong time. He
560. 17:04picked up the wrong person, got into a
561. 17:05situation you did not want to be in
562. 17:07whatsoever. It's not your fault.
563. 17:09>> Bro, I got picked up. Look, here's what
564. 17:11I'm trying to tell y'all is, bro.
565. 17:13Okay.
566. 17:14Tell us what happened. My life is
567. 17:15simple. Listen, though. My life is being
568. 17:17played with right now.
569. 17:19I'm scared for my life. That's all I can
570. 17:21tell y'all. First off, Yeah. I'm trying
571. 17:23to tell y'all I'm scared for my life.
572. 17:25Like
573. 17:26And y'all not even giving me a plea deal
574. 17:27>> We were not saying Y'all know what?
575. 17:29Trust me. Trust me. Trust me. Trust me.
576. 17:31Y'all, bro, I don't have no bond money.
577. 17:32I'm going to have to sit in here for
578. 17:34years. You're trying to explain
579. 17:36something and you're not listening.
580. 17:39All right?
581. 17:40Y'all got me Bro, y'all don't understand
582. 17:41how y'all have people life stuck, bro.
583. 17:43I'm stuck, bro. Okay. I was just I was
584. 17:45just in there for a month. I ain't I was
585. 17:47in there for 43 days dying.
586. 17:50You think I could sit in here?
587. 17:52I don't even know nobody from up here.
588. 17:53Give us something to give the prosecutor
589. 17:55that you're worthwhile.
590. 17:57That we you're a worthwhile person that
591. 17:59could help this case.
592. 18:03What can you give us?
593. 18:04Confirm what we already know. That's all
594. 18:06you have to do. It's very simple. I'm
595. 18:08not getting a deal, bro. You're just
596. 18:10telling me just to confirm something so
597. 18:11I can go down with just like the rest of
598. 18:13everybody. Listen.
599. 18:15>> Sir, I'm I'm everyday watching it. I'm
600. 18:18watching it everyday. You asked They go
601. 18:21in there. They kill. They still sit in
602. 18:23jail or they either die in the county or
603. 18:25they die in penitentiary. You're asking
604. 18:28for a truthful response from us. That's
605. 18:29what you've already asked from us from
606. 18:30the beginning, okay? All right? You're
607. 18:32asking us a question we can't answer.
608. 18:35You understand that? All I can tell you
609. 18:37is
610. 18:39your cooperation is the olive branch,
611. 18:41okay?
612. 18:42That you give to us.
613. 18:44In turn, and we're on a recorded line.
614. 18:46>> to come and get me off of a
615. 18:48murder that I don't have no evidence to
616. 18:50or nothing. That's not true.
617. 18:52You got indicted by the grand jury, 12
618. 18:54of a group of 12 people who listened to
619. 18:56all our evidence. When did I get
620. 18:57indicted?
621. 18:58>> A couple months couple weeks ago.
622. 19:00On the 21st. When you tell
623. 19:01>> When they said I got a warrant this
624. 19:03morning that Yes, it was entered in at
625. 19:06Okay. All right. Here's Bro, y'all
626. 19:08really wanted to see me feel that bad.
627. 19:10>> Listen. No, I'm Y'all Y'all see Y'all
628. 19:12know. Listen. You're not
629. 19:14>> Obviously, I
630. 19:15>> don't know cuz y'all are telling me like
631. 19:17I got mad cuz he didn't want to I never
632. 19:19take them about nothing. Okay. He said
633. 19:21I'm finna come get you.
634. 19:23Came and grabbed me. Yep.
635. 19:25So how am I
636. 19:28Listen, I want to help y'all I want to
637. 19:30help y'all as much as Listen, I want to
638. 19:32help y'all as much as I can.
639. 19:33>> I have one question. Can I get a lawyer
640. 19:35from a lawyer or something but I didn't
641. 19:36talk to y'all tell y'all what's going
642. 19:39I have one question. I'm not even trying
643. 19:40to go to jail. Will you listen to me?
644. 19:42I'm already going to jail. Give me one
645. 19:44second. I have only one question, one
646. 19:46question only. That I personally This is
647. 19:48my personal request.
648. 19:50Wasn't scary as hell driving down 75 on
649. 19:52the shoulder?
650. 19:54That car is over stopped. Is that Was
651. 19:55that scary?
652. 19:58Can I
653. 19:58bro
654. 20:00I'm going to jail.
655. 20:02Yeah.
656. 20:03Right now you're going to jail.
657. 20:07Gary Ante, I gave you the opportunity. I
658. 20:09gave you It doesn't matter. I don't have
659. 20:11to give you the consequences. You're
660. 20:12here now and I want to talk to you,
661. 20:13okay? You're still telling me that
662. 20:16you need Cuz listen, y'all think it's
663. 20:18about bro y'all making this about child
664. 20:20not about child, bro. It's not about me
665. 20:23at all.
666. 20:24>> Listen, I'm not saying it's about me.
667. 20:25>> Ante. It's about whoever died, right?
668. 20:27>> Yeah, exactly. That's whose life it's
669. 20:28about. That's who it's about but it's
670. 20:30like bro, I'm watching this every day. I
671. 20:34was just in the county, bro. I'm
672. 20:35watching this every
673. 20:38day.
674. 20:39Every day. Right. He told he's still got
675. 20:42the same amount of time.
676. 20:44He told he got killed. Okay. He told bro
677. 20:47I'm saying if he was telling to get out,
678. 20:48why can't I Why can't I tell him to get
679. 20:50out?
680. 20:51Why can't you tell us something so we
681. 20:53can go to the prosecutor's office and
682. 20:54say this guy's ready to talk.
683. 20:57Give us something.
684. 20:59Bro, I don't want y'all to hate me now,
685. 21:01bro.
686. 21:02I don't want y'all to hate me. Unless
687. 21:04Unless you come out swinging on me, I'm
688. 21:06not going to hate you. I'll put on my
689. 21:08jacket, my pants, and my drawers, and my
690. 21:10socks and just like y'all, bro. I got a
691. 21:12family that I'm dying to go home to,
692. 21:15bro, just like y'all, bro. This job is
693. 21:17dangerous for y'all, bro, and it's more
694. 21:19extremely for me, bro. No cap. Like
695. 21:21honestly, it's more extreme for me cuz
696. 21:23guess what? I'm going to have to go
697. 21:25back. I'm going to have to sit in this
698. 21:26cell, bro.
699. 21:28I'm going to have to call my girl
700. 21:29crying, bro. I'm going to have to call
701. 21:31my mama crying, bro. I'm going to be in
702. 21:33here. It's going to be Bro, it's These
703. 21:35people they got from the Bulloch County,
704. 21:38yes. Mhm. These people they got locked
705. 21:40up in Bulloch County. They got gangs.
706. 21:42They got their own gang in Bulloch
707. 21:43County.
708. 21:45Listen.
709. 21:46I know who's in Bulloch County. Okay? I
710. 21:48can also make it to where they don't
711. 21:50have contact with you.
712. 21:51Okay? You know what I'm saying is, bro?
713. 21:53I don't have no money or nothing. I'm
714. 21:55going to sit in jail. Y'all can't at
715. 21:57least tell the prosecutor, like y'all
716. 21:59can't tell the prosecutor nothing.
717. 22:00Whatever y'all was going to tell them
718. 22:02before they even got the what the what
719. 22:04the whatever.
720. 22:05What are we going to tell them?
721. 22:07Whatever. What?
722. 22:09What are we going to tell them about
723. 22:10you? Bro, that's going to help you.
724. 22:12Right now, and and it's like listen, we
725. 22:15I like y'all being halfway honest, bro.
726. 22:17We are being honest. I've been dealing
727. 22:18with this my whole life, bro, my whole
728. 22:21life, bro, and I know it ain't going to
729. 22:23say y'all detective people, bro, cuz
730. 22:24y'all are the first two that's really
731. 22:25like You know what I'm trying to say? It
732. 22:27sound like y'all understand it. It sound
733. 22:29like y'all understand it. Yeah. But
734. 22:31still at the end of the day, bro, this
735. 22:32[ __ ] is like
736. 22:34You know what I'm trying to say? How do
737. 22:35people end up with deals where they tell
738. 22:37and get out? Where they where they where
739. 22:39where is the
740. 22:40You know what I'm trying to say? Mhm.
741. 22:42Mhm. I know exactly what you're trying
742. 22:43to say. So,
743. 22:45I get it. Okay?
744. 22:48Where how I was raised and how you were
745. 22:50raised are different. Whether I was
746. 22:52talking
747. 22:52>> I'm breaking the first rule of how you
748. 22:54raised. You know what I'm saying, man?
749. 22:57For real. Yeah. You know what I'm saying
750. 22:58to nobody. I get it. I wish I could
751. 23:00laugh and smile like you. You know when
752. 23:01I went in the court room this morning
753. 23:03Yes, sir. I was wanting to go, leave. I
754. 23:05already own my own business. I was going
755. 23:07to get another job and
756. 23:09go home, rub my girl's feet,
757. 23:12feed her good food,
758. 23:13FaceTime my mom. Mhm.
759. 23:16You know, a regular life.
760. 23:17>> Yeah, absolutely.
761. 23:18Bro, bro, y'all
762. 23:20You Y'all know how far y'all just took
763. 23:22me from that, though. That was y'all
764. 23:24plan. I'm not playing you.
765. 23:26>> from there. I'm getting Listen,
766. 23:28ultimately, my job is to get justice for
767. 23:30this family whose boy got shot 13 times
768. 23:32in the chest. Like how you say 13 times?
769. 23:3613?
770. 23:39I'm not lying to you.
771. 23:40That's what I got to get justice for,
772. 23:42okay?
773. 23:43And that's what I work every day for.
774. 23:46I'm trying to tell y'all this.
775. 23:50Bro,
776. 23:50hey, I just want to be home. I just want
777. 23:52to I just want to be Is it fair to say
778. 23:54that
779. 23:56you have information about this case
780. 23:58that you want to tell us, but do you
781. 24:00want
782. 24:01You You're scared of the repercussions
783. 24:03of it. You want to go home.
784. 24:05>> I want immunity. Okay. I just want to go
785. 24:06home. Okay. I just want to Yeah, that's
786. 24:09Why can't we do that before y'all even
787. 24:11lock me down? I was just at home on M.U.
788. 24:13Y'all could have came to my house. Y'all
789. 24:15could have came to my home. Just take
790. 24:17home. It doesn't work that way. How come
791. 24:20[clears throat] it don't? Because I have
792. 24:21to get a certain amount of time between
793. 24:23you asking for an attorney.
794. 24:25There has to be a a significant of break
795. 24:28before I ever come talk to you again.
796. 24:29Right. Okay.
797. 24:31So, now there is That's your rights,
798. 24:34okay? That's one [clears throat] of
799. 24:35those ones where you say I want an
800. 24:36attorney, I say, I'm just saying. I'm
801. 24:38going off of [ __ ] I hear. So, look at
802. 24:40Look at it this way. Back when we talked
803. 24:41to Hamilton County, all right? One of
804. 24:43the last things we told you was, "Hey,
805. 24:45the ham Do you remember me saying
806. 24:46specifically the hammer's probably going
807. 24:47to come down on you. You're going to
808. 24:48grand jury." Do you remember me saying
809. 24:50that to you, okay? Which led us to that.
810. 24:53Who was going to die?
811. 24:55You need to think you know who got
812. 24:57indicted on these charges? So, you tell
813. 24:58me who you think got indicted on these
814. 24:59charges and I'll bet you is correct.
815. 25:02You think It's not that hard, okay? So,
816. 25:05what you said in here you asked for an
817. 25:07attorney, us and told me you're going to
818. 25:09grand jury and the hammer's coming down
819. 25:10and you will brought you
820. 25:12>> You in a time machine. brought you to
821. 25:13this
822. 25:14>> even went back You don't even have a
823. 25:15time machine. You're here right now.
824. 25:17went back to bro You're right here right
825. 25:19now.
826. 25:20>> But I could have went right now. and did
827. 25:22I could have Bro, listen. I don't have
828. 25:23no Hey, tell me that. Listen, I don't
829. 25:25have no problem coming at the sign. I
830. 25:27don't have no problem
831. 25:28>> problem?
832. 25:29>> I don't have no problem with getting on
833. 25:30the stand looking that man in his face
834. 25:32like you that was You know what I'm
835. 25:33trying to say? Fix the problem. I don't.
836. 25:35Fix the problem.
837. 25:35>> in jail.
838. 25:36>> Fix it. You in here. Hey, this is your
839. 25:38Yeah, I wake up in here bro I'm not
840. 25:40going to do nothing but bro hate myself
841. 25:41more then it's going to be more
842. 25:42questioning like should I should I not
843. 25:44should I should I not No, no, no, here's
844. 25:46here's what we can do.
845. 25:48If I can home I break and I'm on EMU.
846. 25:51All right, take him out.
847. 25:53I want to but I want to talk with
848. 25:54prosecutor.
849. 25:55Tell me that.
850. 25:58That's an olive branch I could take him
851. 25:59right now.
852. 26:00I can
853. 26:02I can say Just tell the prosecutor I
854. 26:04want to speak to him. Mhm.
855. 26:06Can you tell him I want to speak to him?
856. 26:07Okay. And what are you going to tell
857. 26:08him?
858. 26:10I'm going to ask him can I like
859. 26:13He's going to say exactly what I just
860. 26:15said. What do you have?
861. 26:17Well Okay. He going to give me the He
862. 26:19going to tell He can tell me or whoever
863. 26:21the prosecutor is can tell me like
864. 26:23>> Ultimately, even the prosecutor it's the
865. 26:25judge that's going to be They're going
866. 26:26to
867. 26:27Your attorney
868. 26:28If you want to If we're talking fifth
869. 26:30amendment I'm a witness. Y'all trying to
870. 26:32treat me like a Y'all trying to treat me
871. 26:34like Y'all treat me like a and I'm a
872. 26:36witness. We want to treat you We want to
873. 26:37treat you like a witness, but we can't
874. 26:39treat you like a witness till we know
875. 26:41you confirm what we already know. You're
876. 26:43not telling us anything we don't know.
877. 26:45I told you from the minute I laid
878. 26:47>> stand is Listen. I've told you from the
879. 26:49minute I I eyes on you
880. 26:51that I didn't think you shot.
881. 26:53Okay, you didn't think you were there.
882. 26:54>> but you But you're there.
883. 26:57You think you saying you think I know
884. 26:58awfully just went and took this guy on a
885. 27:02If I would have known he was killing
886. 27:03somebody, I'm not going to lie, bro. I
887. 27:05know that I could go to jail for it,
888. 27:07too. I would have got out and murdered
889. 27:09somebody. I didn't do nothing. That
890. 27:11might be our olive branch. Here we go.
891. 27:14Listen, you didn't know, right? You
892. 27:16didn't know. That's our olive branch.
893. 27:18Accept that. I didn't know.
894. 27:21That's it. That's simple. That doesn't
895. 27:23mean you're guilty of all kinds of crap.
896. 27:26And before we talked to you in Hamilton
897. 27:27County, we didn't know. You didn't tell
898. 27:29us that.
899. 27:30So, we have to assume that you knew.
900. 27:32I'm saying if I knew anybody was doing
901. 27:36and doing a shooting, bro. I would have
902. 27:37got out and did it. I don't like going
903. 27:39to go to jail for something I didn't do.
904. 27:41And that's why I'm in here trying to
905. 27:43give you guys
906. 27:45what you guys need.
907. 27:47We'll confirm what we know.
908. 27:48We're not We're not asking you for
909. 27:50anything.
910. 27:51We're not asking you to tell us I'm
911. 27:53asking y'all, bro. I'm asking y'all, can
912. 27:55I get my life back, bro? Y'all snatched
913. 27:57my life from me. I'm asking y'all, can
914. 27:58y'all ask the prosecutor to treat me
915. 28:01like a witness?
916. 28:02>> And I can't do that until you show how
917. 28:05you're cooperating.
918. 28:06>> That's what I'm saying. Listen, the
919. 28:07prosecutor is well aware of it. Can you
920. 28:09let me talk to the prosecutor? I know
921. 28:11the prosecutor is well aware.
922. 28:13He bro When I When you were taken into
923. 28:15custody, the guy I was talking to on the
924. 28:17street corner when we were walking out
925. 28:18was the prosecutor. I said we have Gary
926. 28:20Ante Holmes now. He said, "How is he?" I
927. 28:21said he's pretty upset. He said, "Do you
928. 28:24think he's going to want to talk?" I
929. 28:26said, "I think he does." Okay? This is
930. 28:28the discussion I'm having with the
931. 28:30prosecutor that's handling the case.
932. 28:31We're going to talk to him and say,
933. 28:33"He's going to ask me after this, what
934. 28:34did he say?"
935. 28:36Okay? That's your stuff. He is well
936. 28:38aware of everything that's going on.
937. 28:40Or is he a suspect? First question he's
938. 28:43going to ask us.
939. 28:45So, do you want us to treat you like a
940. 28:47witness or do you want us to treat you
941. 28:48like a suspect?
942. 28:50Bro, you're already treating me like a
943. 28:51suspect, bro. I got
944. 28:53jail
945. 28:55You didn't tell us here. You didn't tell
946. 28:57us how to go to jail. Gariyante. I've
947. 28:59told you hold on. Murder case is going
948. 29:01on for If you want to fight it, it'll go
949. 29:03on for 3 years.
950. 29:04Year and a half, 2 years. But my kid's
951. 29:07going to be born, bro. I don't have no
952. 29:08bond money. I don't have no Bro, I don't
953. 29:11have no
954. 29:13I don't have no nothing.
955. 29:14>> What are we going to tell the
956. 29:14prosecutor? What am I going to tell the
957. 29:16prosecutor?
958. 29:16>> Yeah. What are we going to tell him?
959. 29:18Gariyante Holmes wants to tell you
960. 29:19everything you want to know. He just
961. 29:21wants to be treated as a witness. He
962. 29:22don't want to be treated as no suspect.
963. 29:24He don't want to be in here, bro,
964. 29:26dealing with these people, bro. I don't
965. 29:27I don't have no I don't have no
966. 29:29commissary money, bro. I don't have
967. 29:30nothing, bro. Let's just be honest here,
968. 29:32bro. I don't have I'm a young man, bro.
969. 29:34I don't have no home. I don't have
970. 29:35nothing here.
971. 29:37Again, I'm going to ask you one question
972. 29:38and one question only.
973. 29:41One question and one question only.
974. 29:44And once that happens, I'm going to call
975. 29:46the prosecutor directly, okay?
976. 29:48What kind of car were you in?
977. 29:50I need that olive branch. You need to
978. 29:52confirm something to show that you are
979. 29:54What kind of car were you in?
980. 29:57Bro, they're going to treat me like a
981. 29:58witness, bro. I know.
982. 30:00I don't want to be treated as a suspect,
983. 30:01bro. I know I'm treated as a suspect. I
984. 30:03don't know what kind of car it was. I
985. 30:04want to talk to the prosecutor. I want
986. 30:06to leave, bro. Then I And after it is
987. 30:09agreed, bro, I'll tell them whatever you
988. 30:11want to hear. Y'all not even No. That's
989. 30:13not how
990. 30:14want you to say whatever we want to
991. 30:16hear. I want the truth. Stomach hurt.
992. 30:18Can I pee, sir?
993. 30:22I will let you out.
994. 30:23No, I never cursed one. What we're going
995. 30:25to do is solve them.
996. 30:27I have no problem. You said I will tell
997. 30:30you what we want to hear. That's not
998. 30:32what we want. Do you understand that?
999. 30:34Okay. We do not want that. Okay? That's
1000. 30:36why I asked you very specific question.
1001. 30:39If you can answer that question, that
1002. 30:40shows to me that you are cooperating.
1003. 30:42I'm talking about my life. And if you're
1004. 30:44cooperating, I'll make that phone call.
1005. 30:49My life is very serious.
1006. 30:51I got to have you sit down, though. I
1007. 30:53got to stand you up.
1008. 30:54I get it. my life.
1009. 30:59This is like serious, like
1010. 31:01Of all cases, right? This is the most
1011. 31:03serious thing, like No.
1012. 31:05So, I'm not taking this lightly. So, if
1013. 31:07you see me smile or anything like that,
1014. 31:08it's not because I think it's funny or
1015. 31:10anything like that. This is your life.
1016. 31:11Like literally, this is your life.
1017. 31:13Everything.
1018. 31:15If if if you were If you're found guilty
1019. 31:16with some of this stuff, you could It
1020. 31:18could be I think that's right.
1021. 31:24First time that y'all asked me, bro,
1022. 31:25y'all didn't even ask me like a witness,
1023. 31:26bro.
1024. 31:29Asked me like
1025. 31:31a suspect. You ain't trying to say How
1026. 31:33did Let me ask you this, okay? Let me
1027. 31:35ask And we know that, and he was going
1028. 31:36to jail for such and such. Let me ask
1029. 31:38you this.
1030. 31:39How could I have done it to make you
1031. 31:41feel like you were more of a witness
1032. 31:42than a suspect?
1033. 31:43Told me that I'm not here as a suspect.
1034. 31:45You're here as a witness. You can You
1035. 31:46can be a suspect, but you're here as a
1036. 31:49witness. Tell me what I need to know.
1037. 31:51We're going to let you go.
1038. 31:53But I can't do that. I I I physically,
1039. 31:55like in my profession, I can't do that.
1040. 31:57And I'm not lying to you. I'm not trying
1041. 31:58to be a dick or anything to you. I'm
1042. 32:00telling you like where I'm coming from
1043. 32:01is like So, I'm over here, you're over
1044. 32:03here, right? Okay.
1045. 32:05My goal as an investigator is to try to
1046. 32:08get the truth out, right? And I And I do
1047. 32:10all kinds of research. I do all kinds of
1048. 32:12stuff.
1049. 32:15But I have
1050. 32:17There is a line that I have to keep,
1051. 32:18okay? As far as I can't say and I don't
1052. 32:20want to and I don't want to lie to you
1053. 32:22and be like, "Dude, you're going to be a
1054. 32:23witness to this whole thing."
1055. 32:25Oh, I know that you drove up there with
1056. 32:26this guy and he freaking merked a dude
1057. 32:29and did all this stuff. I can't
1058. 32:32I can't do that. Like I can't promise
1059. 32:34you things. I'm not going to lie to you.
1060. 32:35Like I haven't lied to you one time.
1061. 32:37Since Like, I swear to you. And like, I
1062. 32:39don't know what they do in other
1063. 32:40departments. I can just tell you what
1064. 32:42what I do like here, okay?
1065. 32:46Like,
1066. 32:47I mean, I get I get people born and
1067. 32:48raised
1068. 32:51Okay.
1069. 32:53And I can tell you that no matter what
1070. 32:55happens right now, I'm going to talk to
1071. 32:57the head of the criminal criminal
1072. 32:58division, the assistant prosecutor that
1073. 32:59runs the criminal division in Butler
1074. 33:01County.
1075. 33:02He's been in this the entire time. Like,
1076. 33:05I've had to literally hand walk with him
1077. 33:06the entire thing.
1078. 33:18Don't fall out on me, number one.
1079. 34:02I know I know I know I know I know I
1080. 34:03know I 100% know what you're saying.
1081. 34:04I get it. I thought y'all had more power
1082. 34:07than us. I thought y'all had more
1083. 34:09jurisdiction or more power than Like,
1084. 34:11power in a courtroom? Like, public
1085. 34:13defender?
1086. 34:14Well, no, you're ultimately the public
1087. 34:16defender's going to
1088. 34:17Whether it's a public defender or you
1089. 34:18pay an attorney, right? They're on your
1090. 34:20right. And you need one, and that's
1091. 34:22That's right.
1092. 34:24I'm on the number one we're talking
1093. 34:26about sides, right?
1094. 34:27I got I can't give you legal advice. I
1095. 34:29can't tell you like, "Hey." And I can't
1096. 34:30like I can't work on your side like hey,
1097. 34:33I'm going to get this plea bargain with
1098. 34:34this guy. Like I physically can't do
1099. 34:36that.
1100. 34:36>> like in the one separate if people that
1101. 34:39come in here for murder, bro, and tell
1102. 34:41them what they want to know right here.
1103. 34:43>> But they're getting No camera every
1104. 34:44time, bro. They tell them right here.
1105. 34:46Listen.
1106. 34:50What you've seen That's probably cuz
1107. 34:51y'all trying to make it, bro. Like I
1108. 34:53Like I'm like
1109. 34:55Bro, I'm not
1110. 34:56>> fair, ask you a Like I'm a complicity to
1111. 34:57murder. I'm not complicity to not Hey.
1112. 35:00The question that we asked you
1113. 35:02was about shooting anybody? No. No.
1114. 35:05Why? Why? Why do we ask that question?
1115. 35:08Do we ask Why don't we ask you that
1116. 35:09question?
1117. 35:09>> me y'all know it wasn't me. Right. What
1118. 35:11I'm saying is, bro, listen to what I'm
1119. 35:14trying to tell y'all. If y'all know If
1120. 35:16you with him
1121. 35:18If you with him
1122. 35:20Boom.
1123. 35:21He asked you to drive.
1124. 35:22Y'all go somewhere. Something happen.
1125. 35:24Mhm. Boom. You leave. Okay.
1126. 35:27Boom. You leave. Come back later. She'll
1127. 35:30come back to you.
1128. 35:32Bro, is he a witness or is he a suspect?
1129. 35:35If I drove him up there and he kills
1130. 35:37somebody or vice versa, whatever,
1131. 35:38legally Legally? And I don't do anything
1132. 35:41about it, call and say, "Hey, I was with
1133. 35:43him Whatever." Then you start becoming a
1134. 35:45suspect because you don't tell. Like if
1135. 35:46you're a witness and all the minute he
1136. 35:48gets away from you and you're not with a
1137. 35:49gun or anything and you call and be
1138. 35:51like, "Hey, I was with so-and-so and
1139. 35:53they just I had no idea what was going
1140. 35:55on."
1141. 35:56>> I had people calling y'all. Calling
1142. 35:57y'all.
1143. 35:59People already texting y'all.
1144. 36:01So, this is truly where we're at, okay?
1145. 36:03We want to treat you like a witness.
1146. 36:05We're not quite sure if we can or we
1147. 36:07cannot because we haven't really
1148. 36:09confirmed anything with you.
1149. 36:10>> would Jesus Christ ourselves, bro. Y'all
1150. 36:12can't Uh we all look in my So, we all
1151. 36:14wish we were Jesus Christ, so
1152. 36:16I wish you would look me in my face and
1153. 36:18just let me know something.
1154. 36:18>> asking you ask I Every question Every
1155. 36:21question I've asked you, I know the
1156. 36:24answer to. I'm not asking you for any
1157. 36:26additional information. I'm only asking
1158. 36:29you to confirm information that I know.
1159. 36:31When I'm trying to Stop. Listen. Won't
1160. 36:33you stop and listen, okay? We are only
1161. 36:35asking you questions that we know
1162. 36:37answers to because we're trying to
1163. 36:38confirm if you are a witness. Right? We
1164. 36:41cannot go to the prosecutor and say this
1165. 36:43guy is a witness unless he can confirm
1166. 36:45some information first. I need an olive
1167. 36:49branch to the prosecutor. I'm the one
1168. 36:51that decides if I recommend you being
1169. 36:53treated as a witness or not. And you've
1170. 36:55given me nothing. I've asked you direct
1171. 36:58questions, at least three, that I know
1172. 37:01the answer to. You only need to answer
1173. 37:03one for me to make that phone call.
1174. 37:05>> You're giving both hypotheticals, sir,
1175. 37:07right? I'm just telling you the truth,
1176. 37:08bro. I'm just telling the truth. The
1177. 37:10answer is Here's the Here's the
1178. 37:12question. I'm telling y'all the truth,
1179. 37:13bro. I'm telling y'all the truth.
1180. 37:15>> Here's the question.
1181. 37:15>> It's like, listen, I can't do more for
1182. 37:18me than my public Answer the
1183. 37:19Stop talking and listen.
1184. 37:21What What kind of car was it?
1185. 37:24Or What was it like driving down 75 on
1186. 37:27the on the shoulder?
1187. 37:28That's the only two questions, okay?
1188. 37:30Answer those, and the prosecutor gets a
1189. 37:32phone call. I recommend that you be
1190. 37:34treated as a witness.
1191. 37:37I'm trying to say to you, sir.
1192. 37:39>> Okay. I'm asking for answers. I'm not
1193. 37:41asking for explanations. Either answer
1194. 37:44>> You're hostile. Answer Ask Answer the
1195. 37:46questions.
1196. 37:47>> Yeah. See what I'm saying? Do you need
1197. 37:48me to step out?
1198. 37:49>> a When it's about them and me Do you
1199. 37:51need me to step out?
1200. 37:52>> What He just want to hear what he want
1201. 37:53to hear, you know what I'm trying to
1202. 37:54say? If it do what it this or what it
1203. 37:55that. What I'm trying to say is Here's
1204. 37:57the What I'm trying to say is is my
1205. 37:59life, like it's in my hand. It's What if
1206. 38:01it's in my life?
1207. 38:03Look. So So save yourself.
1208. 38:05>> It's really my life in my hand.
1209. 38:06>> You're drowning right now.
1210. 38:07>> I'm saying I know you can't And we're
1211. 38:09throwing
1212. 38:10And we're throwing the raft out to you.
1213. 38:12We're throwing the raft out and saying,
1214. 38:13"Hey, what car were you in?" which would
1215. 38:16help you grab it, and we would pull you
1216. 38:18across, and you're not grabbing it.
1217. 38:20>> Guess why? Y'all trying to say me there,
1218. 38:22too?
1219. 38:23No, they don't.
1220. 38:23>> They don't want to go in there, too,
1221. 38:25and I'm going to be as a [ __ ]
1222. 38:27>> Listen. a rat. I you told. That's why he
1223. 38:29in here. And then it's like, look, on
1224. 38:32all honesty, bro, I know y'all need
1225. 38:33y'all job, y'all need a conviction or
1226. 38:35whatever, bro, but it's like
1227. 38:37>> We don't want you. Look, listen. That's
1228. 38:39all So, WHY ARE Y'ALL KEEPING ME? WHY
1229. 38:41ARE Y'ALL BECAUSE YOU DON'T ANSWER THE
1230. 38:43QUESTION. We want to keep you.
1231. 38:44>> WHY ARE Y'ALL TAKING ME? Answer the
1232. 38:46question, then. And then we call the
1233. 38:47police. Why are y'all taking me? Listen.
1234. 38:50And then y'all going off of ifs and
1235. 38:51buts, like you answer the question I'mma
1236. 38:53call Bert. I recommend that y'all going
1237. 38:54to come back. Oh, yeah, I recommended
1238. 38:56this, but now I'll change it. Get out.
1239. 38:58>> Don't record it.
1240. 39:00Okay.
1241. 39:00>> want to say you recommend
1242. 39:00>> You recommend it. You can record it. I'm
1243. 39:02just saying, he You don't have to let me
1244. 39:04out. You don't have to let me go You
1245. 39:05don't have to treat me like no witness.
1246. 39:07Who doesn't?
1247. 39:08The prosecutor.
1248. 39:10You don't have to treat me like no
1249. 39:10witness. And then what I'm trying to say
1250. 39:12is, bro, why didn't y'all come to me as
1251. 39:14a witness at first? Why didn't y'all
1252. 39:15then come as a witness, bro? I would
1253. 39:17have been like, what the [ __ ]
1254. 39:19And now I'm in jail cuz y'all trying to
1255. 39:21say it's the conspiracy. We're we're
1256. 39:22trying to treat you like a witness.
1257. 39:24That's all I'm saying. Look, if I go
1258. 39:25through Listen, if I go to my public
1259. 39:27defender, he going to do the same thing
1260. 39:29that y'all doing. I swear to God he
1261. 39:31going to tell me, "Well, I'm going to
1262. 39:32refer this." Hey, remember when I said
1263. 39:33Remember when we were in Hamilton County
1264. 39:34I said the hammer was coming down on
1265. 39:35you, okay? Did I lie? Okay? Did I lie?
1266. 39:39Did I lie? Okay? I don't lie, okay?
1267. 39:42>> No, you're not lying, sir. All you're
1268. 39:43saying is you can recommend. You're not
1269. 39:45saying this going to happen or that's
1270. 39:46going to happen. And I don't want you to
1271. 39:47lie like this going to happen
1272. 39:49>> Correct. going to happen. But I want to
1273. 39:51I understand See, this is what This is
1274. 39:52Listen, listen. Confirm the information.
1275. 39:54>> Listen.
1276. 39:55And if you confirm what that damn car
1277. 39:57was, he's going to call the freaking
1278. 39:58prosecutor right now. I'm not lying to
1279. 40:00you. He's going to call the prosecutor.
1280. 40:01Excuse my language. He's telling you,
1281. 40:04and he's getting upset because he's
1282. 40:05going in this We're going in circles.
1283. 40:06We're going in circles. We're going in
1284. 40:07circles. Just tell him the damn car. We
1285. 40:09already We already Tell him the freaking
1286. 40:11car. And then he gets to talk to the
1287. 40:12prosecutor, AND THEN WE'RE BOTH HAPPY.
1288. 40:14FOR GOD'S SAKE, we're going in circles,
1289. 40:16buddy. Come on.
1290. 40:19No, cuz then we could do it this way. We
1291. 40:20don't want to treat you like a suspect.
1292. 40:21You're making it so difficult for us to
1293. 40:23help you.
1294. 40:25You're drowning and I'm throwing that
1295. 40:26life preserver out. Instead of grabbing
1296. 40:28a life preserver, you just keep
1297. 40:30drowning.
1298. 40:31And all I'm asking is a simple question.
1299. 40:33The simplest question of all. We can't
1300. 40:35help you unless you help yourself.
1301. 40:40And we
1302. 40:41we won't because it's just that's how it
1303. 40:43is.
1304. 40:44And I'm not And you want to be You want
1305. 40:46to be a witness. Like listen to me. I
1306. 40:48can No, I don't want to No, bro. No, I
1307. 40:50don't want to be in here, bro. I see
1308. 40:52you.
1309. 40:53You're not stupid. No, no, I don't want
1310. 40:55to be in here, bro. I'm not coded out.
1311. 40:56Ain't no help. Snow coded out, bro. I'm
1312. 40:58not coded out. No, you're not. I know
1313. 41:01that. That's why you're here in the
1314. 41:02first place. is with my family, bro.
1315. 41:05Help yourself. That's it.
1316. 41:07Answer a couple questions of stuff we
1317. 41:09already know.
1318. 41:10You're not telling us any information
1319. 41:12that we don't know cuz all the questions
1320. 41:13I've asked you we already know. And the
1321. 41:15death watch don't worry. That's why
1322. 41:18That's why we're asking That's That's
1323. 41:20why That's why we're
1324. 41:22Like y'all try to help. I get the
1325. 41:24opposite of what I'm looking for, bro. I
1326. 41:26get 5 years. Okay. 8 years. And when I
1327. 41:29say the hammer
1328. 41:30When I say the hammer's coming down and
1329. 41:32the hammer comes down, why don't you
1330. 41:33believe me now?
1331. 41:35When I say
1332. 41:37I know.
1333. 41:38From 5 to 20. Guess what you could get.
1334. 41:41Guess what you get. If you don't help
1335. 41:42us,
1336. 41:42you're in 17 to life. You're not going
1337. 41:44to ever see a freaking
1338. 41:46funny bro. No, I'm telling you I have
1339. 41:49researched everything. I'm telling you I
1340. 41:52know everything. Help yourself. I love
1341. 41:54my life. Help yourself, buddy. Gee, I am
1342. 41:57trying. I am trying.
1343. 42:00He said 17. Yeah, if the hammer comes
1344. 42:03down ultimately, that's what it could
1345. 42:05be. I'm not lying to
1346. 42:06you.
1347. 42:13I ain't know nothing about
1348. 42:17You haven't shown us yet. You haven't
1349. 42:19shown us. Let me show you cuz I I've
1350. 42:21been telling you, bro, before we even
1351. 42:23got in the car, bro. Okay. I'm like,
1352. 42:24bro, get me out of here, bro. I'mma let
1353. 42:26you know everything you want to know,
1354. 42:27bro. For what? What have you told us? We
1355. 42:29have not confirmed anything. Are you in
1356. 42:30the county right now? Get out of here,
1357. 42:32bro. This is
1358. 42:33This y'all little chilling thing.
1359. 42:35Westchester, you're a Westchester Police
1360. 42:36Department. You're in a processing
1361. 42:38center. I already said it, bro. I'm
1362. 42:39going to jail.
1363. 42:41You didn't say that. You're going to
1364. 42:42help You're you're drowning, and we're
1365. 42:44throwing this life preserver out, and
1366. 42:45you just keep drowning. It's just I'll
1367. 42:48like you with a grand burger, bro. Grand
1368. 42:50burger I'm burger.
1369. 42:51>> Burger. Like you get like a hamburger.
1370. 42:52Like you. But come on. He doesn't care.
1371. 42:54I really feel like you care about my
1372. 42:55life, bro. Not really do feel like you
1373. 42:57care. You I'm not going to say you don't
1374. 42:59care, bro. This is just like [ __ ] so
1375. 43:02what? Go ahead. Go ahead. He ain't like
1376. 43:04that. I'm Y'all got to look though.
1377. 43:06Y'all white, and I'm black.
1378. 43:08>> I get that. I'm a black man, and instead
1379. 43:09of bringing me in like this I feel like
1380. 43:11if it was a white kid, bro, y'all would
1381. 43:13have came calling him as a witness, bro.
1382. 43:14Y'all would have Trust me. My issue is
1383. 43:17I've told you everything Obviously y'all
1384. 43:18just said y'all don't want me. Who y'all
1385. 43:20want? I've been I've been I've been 100%
1386. 43:23I've been 100% honest with you this
1387. 43:25entire time. I've been 100% honest with
1388. 43:27you when we were in Hamilton County,
1389. 43:28okay? I've told you everything that
1390. 43:30could happen. And it's not happening.
1391. 43:32Okay?
1392. 43:34Don't Don't say that. Don't say that.
1393. 43:36This is though, bro. Don't say that.
1394. 43:38Yeah. I thought I was going to get out
1395. 43:39of there. Do you really think I want to
1396. 43:40live?
1397. 43:42Cuz all I'm going through
1398. 43:44Listen. Then y'all tell me I'm going to
1399. 43:46be 17, bro. I don't even get a if, and,
1400. 43:48or but about There's a lot of ifs, ands,
1401. 43:50and buts. There's everything in between.
1402. 43:52Bro, I don't even need to be charged
1403. 43:53with that, bro. I didn't know, bro. I
1404. 43:55didn't know. Then y'all tell me, bro.
1405. 43:57Tell us. Tell us something we can
1406. 43:59confirm so you're that you're a witness.
1407. 44:02Cuz you haven't yet. Just one thing.
1408. 44:04Bro, can I tell the prosecutor, bro? Can
1409. 44:05I tell the prosecutor, whoever is going
1410. 44:08to let me go?
1411. 44:08>> two people right here. Can I tell Can I
1412. 44:10let me Can I tell whoever
1413. 44:14Y'all already feel like y'all feel like
1414. 44:15I'm a suspect, bro. Y'all already
1415. 44:17treating me like a suspect, bro. You
1416. 44:18haven't confirmed anything that we
1417. 44:20already know. Like I said, we know If
1418. 44:22y'all know it, why y'all need me to
1419. 44:23confirm it?
1420. 44:25Do you want to be a witness or not? Do
1421. 44:26you want to be treated as a suspect?
1422. 44:28What What do you think?
1423. 44:28>> Yes, I want to be a witness.
1424. 44:30>> a witness do? What does a witness They
1425. 44:32confirm information that we have.
1426. 44:33already free, and then they come in and
1427. 44:36they kill y'all with y'all need to know.
1428. 44:38They come to court dates, and they kill
1429. 44:40them.
1430. 44:41He did such and such. He did such and
1431. 44:43such.
1432. 44:44Bro, that's That's what I want. Tell us.
1433. 44:46This is what I would like. This is what
1434. 44:48In my grand scheme, this is what I would
1435. 44:50like.
1436. 44:51I would like you to help me put away the
1437. 44:53guy that pulled that trigger for the
1438. 44:54rest of his life. That you don't have to
1439. 44:56worry about him coming back at you, and
1440. 44:58this family gets then
1441. 45:00validation for something because they
1442. 45:02lost their boy for the rest of his life.
1443. 45:04>> That's what I want. What exactly is what
1444. 45:05you want? But, what I'm saying is the
1445. 45:07way the system is, bro. I'm not talking
1446. 45:09about child.
1447. 45:10I'm talking about the prosecutor and the
1448. 45:11judge. Sure. The way the system is, bro,
1449. 45:14y'all already put me down for complicity
1450. 45:16to murder.
1451. 45:17So, now it's like, look. Look, cuz we
1452. 45:19didn't tell us. Okay. Look.
1453. 45:20>> us. Is that right? You At least can see
1454. 45:22that you didn't tell us when we were in
1455. 45:24Hamilton County, so we have to assume
1456. 45:25certain things. So, now can I tell Can I
1457. 45:27try to tell you how it go? Cuz I know
1458. 45:29how it go. Just how y'all know how it
1459. 45:30go. Now, the prosecutor and the judge
1460. 45:32looking like, "Okay, he got complicity
1461. 45:34to murder. Oh, well, he said such and
1462. 45:36such and such and such and such and
1463. 45:37such. Oh, yeah, he's guilty of murder."
1464. 45:40So, now I'm going down.
1465. 45:42Now I'm going down.
1466. 45:44I can tell you this. This is the only
1467. 45:46thing I can't give you recommendations.
1468. 45:47I wish y'all could tell me something
1469. 45:49solid. I wish y'all would tell me
1470. 45:50something solid. I wish y'all would tell
1471. 45:51me something solid.
1472. 45:53>> We're We're asking you to try to tell us
1473. 45:55something solid. Okay, it can do nothing
1474. 45:58but help you. If you don't cooperate,
1475. 46:00that's where the hammer part comes in.
1476. 46:02If you don't cooperate, if you
1477. 46:03cooperate, that's the only saving grace
1478. 46:06that you have.
1479. 46:06>> I'm trying to tell y'all this, bro. I'm
1480. 46:08going to cooperate either with y'all or
1481. 46:10my attorney. And I'm trying to tell what
1482. 46:12I'm trying to
1483. 46:14But just how y'all want some solid, bro,
1484. 46:16I'm trying to get solid, bro. I was just
1485. 46:18telling you, bro. I'm trying to leave
1486. 46:20You know what I'm trying to say? Get
1487. 46:21back to the my my my my box life.
1488. 46:24Like damn, I can't get nothing, bro.
1489. 46:26It's 11:00 at night. Bro, I mean even It
1490. 46:29ain't even lunch time yet.
1491. 46:32I'm finna get in the cell.
1492. 46:35And damn, look look look, y'all didn't
1493. 46:36lie to me, but you just tried to say
1494. 46:38like Well, you don't know if y'all You
1495. 46:40want to You ain't even in the county
1496. 46:41yet. But that's where I'm going. So, why
1497. 46:43would you even say Why are you trying to
1498. 46:44mislead me like that? Cuz you said you
1499. 46:46thought you were in the county. We
1500. 46:47wanted to make sure that you knew where
1501. 46:48you were.
1502. 46:48>> No, I said I'm going to jail. I'm not
1503. 46:50misleading you in any way, man. I told
1504. 46:52you everything the truth. Like I'm
1505. 46:54seriously telling you the truth the
1506. 46:55entire time my phone is going crazy.
1507. 46:57Y'all not behind on calls, bro.
1508. 46:59>> nobody care about you back in your room.
1509. 47:01I need to somebody to talk to while you
1510. 47:03on the phone. Nobody going to talk to
1511. 47:05you. Nobody going to put no money on the
1512. 47:06phone put money on the books. Let me get
1513. 47:09on the phone with my girl, bro. And she
1514. 47:11going to tell me no. Me crying to her
1515. 47:12and telling her I love her.
1516. 47:14Sorry. If I didn't care Sorry for
1517. 47:16nothing I didn't do. You know my dogs
1518. 47:18range, bro. Yeah. Hey, look at this. You
1519. 47:20care about me or the case? I don't know
1520. 47:22which one. If I didn't
1521. 47:24If I had a prostitute or can I tell you
1522. 47:26what you want to know?
1523. 47:30If I didn't know Give me process.
1524. 47:32Listen to me.
1525. 47:34If I didn't care
1526. 47:37Yeah, right now.
1527. 47:38Right now, we tried. I'm I mean
1528. 47:41we tried.
1529. 47:44Y'all feeling bad. I mean Y'all don't
1530. 47:46feel Y'all don't feel
1531. 47:47>> Kari Ante, I'm trying, man. I'm trying.
1532. 47:49Like I'm desperate so hard.
1533. 47:52It's not I'm not bulling you. I'm not
1534. 47:54doing anything. I have been truthful
1535. 47:56with you.
1536. 47:57I'm trying like heck. Give me a minute.
1537. 47:59Like if I tell y'all what y'all trying
1538. 48:00to hear, bro, do y'all think I could get
1539. 48:02out, bro? Do y'all think I could I know
1540. 48:04by money I don't have [ __ ] bro. Do
1541. 48:05y'all think I could get out? Do y'all
1542. 48:07think they'll take me as a witness?
1543. 48:09Do I think they'll take you as a
1544. 48:10witness? Yes. Okay, what I'm saying is
1545. 48:12though we can get You're thinking
1546. 48:12short-term free witness. You're You're
1547. 48:14thinking short-term, okay? Bro, cuz I
1548. 48:16don't want to short it here for my life.
1549. 48:17First of all, two years of my life I did
1550. 48:19Short-term short-term.
1551. 48:21Short-term when we talk 24 hours nothing
1552. 48:24we can do.
1553. 48:25Okay?
1554. 48:26Free talk.
1555. 48:28Okay?
1556. 48:29I've been honest with you before. 24
1557. 48:31hours, okay? So can you do nothing with
1558. 48:3324 hours? Are you going to get to do
1559. 48:34something in 24 hours? I can say that
1560. 48:36nothing will happen in the next 24
1561. 48:38hours.
1562. 48:39I'm not going to go home in the No. You
1563. 48:41see you have that short-term thing that
1564. 48:43you you want to go home. You You really
1565. 48:45need to go home.
1566. 48:46Okay? We can't promise you that, okay?
1567. 48:49Man, that's so good
1568. 48:50>> right now. I know. I know. But home. But
1569. 48:53do you want Do you want to have the
1570. 48:55release, the the the idea that you know
1571. 48:59that you you've been with this guy a
1572. 49:01little bit, okay? All right? You trust
1573. 49:04him like you trust us.
1574. 49:06No. Well, ultimately it's the prosecutor
1575. 49:08calling the shots. He's my boss, but
1576. 49:10he's got bosses above him, too.
1577. 49:12Right? So.
1578. 49:15Help yourself, okay? I'm going to walk
1579. 49:16out of this room.
1580. 49:18Help yourself. Do you know what I'm
1581. 49:19saying? Like I'm trying to just I'm
1582. 49:21trying to get out. Bro, y'all don't
1583. 49:22understand, bro. You being there
1584. 49:25can be boring. You're asking the same
1585. 49:27question.
1586. 49:28You're asking the same question.
1587. 49:29>> what you already said about 24. Like do
1588. 49:31you Do you think they will like Do you
1589. 49:32think y'all will be able to come and get
1590. 49:33me?
1591. 49:35I think I'll talk to the prosecutor and
1592. 49:36say, "Hey, he's willing to talk." And
1593. 49:38then the matter We have something. We
1594. 49:39have to have something. If you're going
1595. 49:40to be like, "Hey," and you're going to
1596. 49:41give all kinds of crap
1597. 49:43and you give everything
1598. 49:46then
1599. 49:47I'm going to tell the prosecutor, "Hey,
1600. 49:49he gave us everything.
1601. 49:51And we need to keep him safe and we need
1602. 49:53to do everything. Now, if I got to put
1603. 49:55you in
1604. 49:56protection or something like that, then
1605. 49:57so be it.
1606. 49:58Sir, I don't need no protection. That's
1607. 50:00going to make me look weak. I don't need
1608. 50:02no protection.
1609. 50:03>> Okay. If you don't want it, then I won't
1610. 50:04get it for you. I'm just saying. What's
1611. 50:06that? I'm here. No, I'm talking about
1612. 50:08Oh, and at Butler County, you're good?
1613. 50:11>> free, man. I'm at home. I get that. I'm
1614. 50:13saying at home. Listen, I think you have
1615. 50:16a better chance of getting hurt at home
1616. 50:17than you do at Butler County. No, I
1617. 50:19don't. You don't think that I don't
1618. 50:20know. I don't think that.
1619. 50:21>> Take a break and let him get processed.
1620. 50:23Take a break. You want something to
1621. 50:24drink? A bottle of water or anything?
1622. 50:26Yeah, let me get something to drink.
1623. 50:27Okay.
1624. 50:28Just think about it, man.
1625. 50:30I don't Think about it. I'm going to
1626. 50:32give up for murder.
1627. 50:34Come on.
1628. 50:36The investigation into Keshawn Sanders'
1629. 50:38killing ultimately led prosecutors to
1630. 50:40conclude that the shooting was the
1631. 50:41result of a deliberate, coordinated
1632. 50:43attack tied to an ongoing gang conflict.
1633. 50:46Evidence showed that the crime was not
1634. 50:48spontaneous, [music]
1635. 50:49but the culmination of escalating
1636. 50:51violence that crossed county lines and
1637. 50:53ended in a residential [music] parking
1638. 50:54lot.
1639. 50:55Robert J. Morris, identified by
1640. 50:57prosecutors as the shooter, pleaded
1641. 50:59guilty to murder with firearm and
1642. 51:00[music] gang specifications.
1643. 51:02In December 2023, he was sentenced to
1644. 51:05life [music] in prison with the
1645. 51:06possibility of parole after 21 years.
1646. 51:09If released, he will remain under
1647. 51:10supervision for life and [music] is
1648. 51:12required to register as a violent
1649. 51:13offender. Garrin Ty Holmes, who drove
1650. 51:16Morris to the scene and [music] fled
1651. 51:17with him afterward, pleaded guilty to
1652. 51:19involuntary manslaughter in January
1653. 51:212024.
1654. 51:23In February 2024, [music]
1655. 51:24a Butler County judge sentenced Holmes
1656. 51:26to 11 to 16 and 1/2 years in prison.
1657. 51:30Additional charges, including gang
1658. 51:32participation and firearm
1659. 51:33specifications, [music] were dismissed
1660. 51:35as part of the plea agreement. Holmes
1661. 51:37later appealed his conviction, but the
1662. 51:39Ohio Court of Appeals dismissed the
1663. 51:41appeal [music]
1664. 51:42in July 2024, finding no arguable legal
1665. 51:45errors. With that decision, the case was
1666. 51:47formally closed. Investigators
1667. 51:49ultimately [music]
1668. 51:50treated Holmes' actions as part of the
1669. 51:52broader chain of events that enabled the
1670. 51:54killing.
1671. 51:55Not as the trigger pull [music] itself,
1672. 51:57but as the conduct that made the crime
1673. 51:58possible.
1674. 52:00Both defendants are now serving lengthy
1675. 52:02prison sentences, [music]
1676. 52:03bringing a legal end to a case that
1677. 52:05marked one of the rare homicides in
1678. 52:07Westchester Township and underscored how
1679. 52:09distant disputes can spill into
1680. 52:11otherwise quiet communities.
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