Get Delivered from the Fear of Man! | Ben Fitzgerald — Transcript
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- 0:00But I couldn't say it. I couldn't say it
- 0:02because Proverbs 28 says, "The fear of
- 0:04man is a snare." And I hadn't anchored
- 0:06myself in the fear of the Lord. Yeah,
- 0:08you can be comfortable, but you won't
- 0:09change
- 0:18history. Would you open your Bibles to
- 0:20Galatians chapter
- 0:231?
- 0:25Um, today I want to minister to you
- 0:27about breaking the fear of man. As I
- 0:29mentioned yesterday, I want to help you
- 0:30with this. And I just want to give you a
- 0:32bit of a pre-warning. There will be some
- 0:33deliverance today. Uh in a meeting like
- 0:36VA, especially the 25th year
- 0:38anniversary, we can get rid of any demon
- 0:41um by the power of the name of Jesus
- 0:43that we that we want. And I love being
- 0:45here with Dr. Randy because I know he
- 0:46loves deliverance. I've been in some
- 0:48meetings where I feel like I'm the odd
- 0:50one out because I do deliverance. And I
- 0:52remember we were together in Amsterdam
- 0:53and I did a lot of deliverance there
- 0:54that night and I loved it because Dr.
- 0:56Andy is just loving. He's praying for
- 0:57everybody and so was Bill. Bill was
- 0:58there that day with us as well. And um
- 1:00sometimes I feel a bit awkward. I go
- 1:02into some scenarios and and I'm like
- 1:04we're going to pray and cast out demons
- 1:05and I feel like there's sometimes less
- 1:08receptivity to that in even free
- 1:10churches at times. But recently Amos and
- 1:13I were at a major Catholic convention in
- 1:15France and it was really cool. Demons
- 1:17came out everywhere and and they said
- 1:19that that was their favorite session.
- 1:21And so so so today um I always do
- 1:25deliverance also with a smile on my
- 1:26face. But I cannot stand deliverance
- 1:27ministry where it's like this, like you
- 1:29get out right now. Sometimes we think we
- 1:31outshout the devil. But the truth is we
- 1:33out truth the devil. You know, it's it's
- 1:34authority. It's not shouting. Uh you can
- 1:37you could whisper, you could go get out
- 1:38in Jesus' name. He he's terrified of
- 1:40light. He's terrified of holiness and
- 1:41he's terrified of the truth. You don't
- 1:43outshout demons. So just just be aware.
- 1:46I don't know about what happens in hell,
- 1:47but it feels like that maybe there's
- 1:48like a script they read that when they
- 1:50come onto the earth and possess people,
- 1:52they have this script they always say,
- 1:53"I'm not coming out." you know, they get
- 1:55taught to say at these demons in like an
- 1:56aggressive way, I'm not coming out. Then
- 1:58we go, yes, you are. You know, it
- 2:00doesn't work that way. You don't have to
- 2:02get really upset at them. Um, because
- 2:04that shows them that you don't believe
- 2:05the truth. And and just make sure that
- 2:07you just use the truth and cast them
- 2:08out. So, that'll happen today. So, if
- 2:10you have any demons in your life right
- 2:12now, you've got about 25 to 30 minutes
- 2:14left just to have a goodbye party. Say
- 2:16goodbye and just say to them, just say
- 2:20it's it's been great having you in my
- 2:21life. Um, the last the the last 20 years
- 2:24has been so much torment, so much fear,
- 2:26so many nightmares, so much depression.
- 2:28I can't wait to to say goodbye to you,
- 2:30you know, and just say goodbye to it
- 2:31once and for all because I was actually
- 2:34very demonized and you're about to hear
- 2:35about that and and Yeah. But I I do
- 2:38deliverance with a smile. I believe it's
- 2:40so much. I I believe in freedom. Don't
- 2:42you? Yeah. Oh, man. Freedom is so good.
- 2:45Or you can do 55 years of, you know,
- 2:48counseling. Um I I'm not against
- 2:51counseling, but I actually I've done
- 2:52counseling. It really helped me, but I
- 2:54believe in also power. All right, so
- 2:56Galatians chapter 1, let's read this
- 2:58together. Verse 8, Paul the Apostle
- 3:01speaking here. Uh he says this, that
- 3:04even if we are an angel from heaven
- 3:06preach any other gospel to you than that
- 3:10which we've preached to you, let him be
- 3:13accursed. Strong language, hey? Okay,
- 3:16picture this. You're having a coffee in
- 3:17Lancaster or Mechanicsburg or some other
- 3:19berg, whatever you are. And um is that
- 3:21right? Mechanicsburg. Yeah. Okay. That's
- 3:23kind of cool. That's the kind of place
- 3:25you want to grow up and you would never
- 3:26have car problems. So um you're having a
- 3:29coffee with Paul the Apostle in
- 3:31Mechanicsburg and he sits at the table
- 3:33with you and he says, "Listen to me. If
- 3:35anybody preaches another kind of gospel
- 3:38or another Jesus, let him be accursed."
- 3:41Now we're afraid of that language now
- 3:42because we're more seeker sensitive. We
- 3:44want to make sure everyone feels
- 3:45blessed. But imagine him sitting there
- 3:46going, "Listen to me. Let him be
- 3:48accursed." Okay. Very next verse. Let's
- 3:50read it again. Verse 9. As we have said
- 3:53before, and so now we say again. You
- 3:55mean like as in before, like one second
- 3:57ago, Paul? Yeah. If anyone preaches any
- 4:01other gospel to you than the one which
- 4:03you received, let him be cursed. That's
- 4:07strong language. If he was sitting
- 4:08across the table from me and said that
- 4:10to me twice, I'd be like, "Well, okay.
- 4:12So, you're telling me that if there's
- 4:14even a slight twist in the gospel,
- 4:17there's cursed things in this. God will
- 4:19curse it. Yes. A 95% biblical Jesus is
- 4:23100% not Jesus. A 98% biblical Jesus is
- 4:27100% not Jesus. It's either the Jesus of
- 4:30perfect scripture or it's not Jesus at
- 4:32all. You can't adjust him. He's the
- 4:34fullness as you heard last night. He is
- 4:36the father's sermon. And so, here Paul
- 4:39is very, very clear. And then verse 10,
- 4:42this is a bit I wanted to get to, but he
- 4:43says, "Let that gospel be cursed if it's
- 4:46changed." Just remember that word
- 4:48cursed. Verse 10, "For do I now persuade
- 4:51men or
- 4:53God? Or do I seek to please man? For if
- 4:57I still pleased man, I would not be a
- 5:02bond servant of
- 5:05Christ." All right, I'm going to read
- 5:07this again. Let's read it slowly. I feel
- 5:09like I do this at my church back home. I
- 5:11read I say, "Let's read this one more
- 5:12time slowly because I feel it's easy to
- 5:14go over very deep things sometimes." And
- 5:16I've learned a lot from God by slowing
- 5:18down. For do I now persuade men or God
- 5:21or do I seek to please men? For if I
- 5:25still pleased men, I would not be a
- 5:29bondervant of Christ. So what's Paul
- 5:32saying here? He's saying, "I'm not going
- 5:34to preach a fake gospel to you just so
- 5:37people like me.
- 5:38I'm not going to dull down the nature
- 5:40and revelation of Jesus so people like
- 5:43me. This gentile context was very
- 5:45important here as well. There's a bit of
- 5:46context I could give some extra Jesus,
- 5:48but I won't get into that. But
- 5:49basically, he's saying this. He's saying
- 5:51if we preach something fake just because
- 5:53we want to tickle the itching ears of
- 5:55the hearer, then we've got a cursed
- 5:57gospel. And not only is the gospel
- 5:59cursed, the messenger is cursed. You
- 6:01should totally refuse it. It has to be
- 6:03either truly biblical where it can be
- 6:05referenced Jesus biblically or not at
- 6:07all. It can't be some other thing of
- 6:09like, hey, I went up into the heavens
- 6:10and I moved a few planets. That's
- 6:12awesome. If you move planets and move
- 6:13galaxies, that's amazing. But it's crazy
- 6:15to me so many people I meet. They're
- 6:16like, you know, I had an encounter where
- 6:17I moved a galaxy. I'm like, that's
- 6:19awesome. Be amazing if you could move to
- 6:20forgive your brother. Be amazing if you
- 6:22could also move to maybe pray for your
- 6:23unsaved friends. But they want to move
- 6:26galaxies. They want to bring Jesus into
- 6:27this kind of cosmic Jesus who's sort of
- 6:29a like Michael said last night, utopian
- 6:31Jesus. But sometimes they lack the
- 6:33purity and innocence of the gospel. And
- 6:36many people even take pulpits like that
- 6:38and they preach this way. And believe it
- 6:40or not, I was this way. I was a person
- 6:43who was terrified of human opinion. And
- 6:46because of that, I actually had changed
- 6:48who I was. I didn't realize I had. But
- 6:50many times I would take a pulpit like
- 6:52this and my only concern was that you
- 6:55would love my well-prepared three-point
- 6:57sermon so I'd get a second invitation
- 6:59back. I wasn't feeding people like you.
- 7:02I was feeding me. I was feeding my own
- 7:04need for security and I would change and
- 7:06dull things down. I remember I had a
- 7:08conversation one time with these two
- 7:09well-known ministers and I was sort of
- 7:12just coming up in the ranks of ministry
- 7:13and I didn't understand that I had this
- 7:15deep resident fear of man in me. But I
- 7:18was coming up in ministry and we were
- 7:19playing golf together and these two guys
- 7:20were very well known and and I was
- 7:22sitting there with them and I was like,
- 7:23"Wow, I get to play golf with them and
- 7:25and uh and just have lunch with them."
- 7:26And at lunch they started talking and
- 7:28they started talking about money. And
- 7:31remember, I'm a little baby Christian.
- 7:32So like baby in the ministry and and
- 7:34just so excited to be around these men
- 7:36and honoring them. And these guys
- 7:38started complaining. They said, "Can you
- 7:40believe we flew all the way across
- 7:42America, halfway across America? You
- 7:43know, it took me three hours to fly
- 7:45there and they only gave me $3,000 to
- 7:47speak." And then the other goes, "Yeah,
- 7:49that they don't appreciate you. They
- 7:50don't respect you. I feel the same." You
- 7:52know, when I go to some places, I only
- 7:53get $5,000. And I'm sitting there like
- 7:55this. I'm like, "5 grand? You get five
- 7:57grand?" I was like, "Man, I get like 50
- 8:00bucks, maybe a hot dog if I, you know, I
- 8:02was like, $5,000." But inside me,
- 8:05everything inside me wanted to go,
- 8:07"Excuse me. Hey, um, I feel grieved as
- 8:10you're talking. Isn't this about Jesus,
- 8:12though? Don't we preach for Jesus? Don't
- 8:14we do this all for Jesus? But I couldn't
- 8:17say it. I couldn't say it because
- 8:18Proverbs 28 says, "The fear of man is a
- 8:20snare." I couldn't talk because inside
- 8:24me, I had this deep rooted belief system
- 8:26that man favors me more than God. That
- 8:28man gives me what I need in the
- 8:30Christian world. And somehow I'd slipped
- 8:32into this system of trying to climb the
- 8:34Christian totem pole or Christian
- 8:35ladder, which doesn't exist anyway, and
- 8:37trying to kind of make sure everybody
- 8:39that I met was pleased with my ability
- 8:41to preach and my ability to pray. And
- 8:43they knew I was a man of God. And I
- 8:45didn't even realize I had this stuff in
- 8:47me. But I was changing who I was. And I
- 8:49made this gray area pseudo me that was
- 8:53fitting in everywhere. But I felt like I
- 8:55belong nowhere cuz I felt like I was
- 8:57losing the genuiness of conviction
- 8:59inside my heart. I remember talking to
- 9:02these other famous preachers and they
- 9:04would discuss whether hell is real or
- 9:05not. And inside me, everything inside me
- 9:06is like, "Of course, hell is real. If
- 9:08you change that pillar, you've made a
- 9:10false gospel." But I couldn't say it.
- 9:12There was times I felt like I was shut
- 9:13down because of the opportunity I would
- 9:16have missed. And so Paul looks you in
- 9:18the eyes and says, "Listen to me. You've
- 9:20got to make sure that you are living to
- 9:22please first and foremost an audience of
- 9:24one. You can't have one foot anchored
- 9:27and stabilized on the opinions of every
- 9:29person and the other foot on Jesus. One
- 9:32foot has to be much bigger. Now, do we
- 9:34need encouragement? Yes. Do we need
- 9:36edification? Yes. Do we need people to
- 9:38say to us, "Hey, good job." Or, "That's
- 9:39true." And etc. Sure. Everybody likes
- 9:42encouragement. Everyone loves to be
- 9:43liked. But we don't live to be liked. We
- 9:46live to please God and the truth. But
- 9:48see, I didn't know this. Now, you heard
- 9:51my testimony yesterday. I was unafraid
- 9:53in the streets. I would get in the
- 9:54streets and say, "Hey, Jesus loves you."
- 9:56Because nobody out there could offer me
- 9:59a pulpit. Nobody could offer me a
- 10:01Christian opportunity. No one could
- 10:02offer me a book deal. Everybody out in
- 10:05the street to me was somebody I could
- 10:06reach and love. But something strange
- 10:09happened to me when I started to train
- 10:11to get into the ministry. And I can say
- 10:13this very vulnerably. Some part of me
- 10:15had adjusted in order to please people,
- 10:19in order to get invitations, and in
- 10:21order to make myself feel like I was
- 10:23doing something important in the body of
- 10:25Christ. And as I said to you yesterday,
- 10:26see this thing right here? This is not
- 10:29the definition of Christian success. I
- 10:32can tell you, I can tell you because
- 10:34I've been at pull pits on a Sunday or on
- 10:36a Saturday and I've lived a different
- 10:38way on Monday. I've had different
- 10:40thoughts in my mind, unholy things in my
- 10:43life where on on Sunday, I was acting so
- 10:46powerful, but I wasn't genuine. I wasn't
- 10:48given fully to the message of Jesus. I
- 10:50was compromised a little. And so, I want
- 10:52to just dive into this here, but Paul
- 10:54says this. Now, I didn't think I had
- 10:56this because everyone was coming to me,
- 10:57Ben, you're so bold. You you pray for
- 11:00the sick everywhere on the streets.
- 11:01That's why people were inviting me to
- 11:02churches. They're like, you're just a
- 11:04bold evangelist. You do all these
- 11:06things. And then one day I was invited
- 11:08at a very large church of around about
- 11:108,000 people. I was invited to sit on
- 11:13the front row and I wasn't a staff
- 11:15member. I was at a school of ministry
- 11:17and I was invited to sit at the very
- 11:19front row and my favorite preacher, the
- 11:21man I look up to most in Christianity
- 11:23probably at that time still. Um he was
- 11:26preaching and he did an amazing job. But
- 11:28that day I remember I could hardly sleep
- 11:30that night cuz they said tomorrow you
- 11:32can come as an intern and sit on the
- 11:34front row. And I was like me? I was like
- 11:36why? And they're like, "Just come and
- 11:37hang with us." And I was like, "Okay,
- 11:39yeah, I'll hang for sure." And in
- 11:41worship, I remember being in worship,
- 11:42this big church, and all all the whole
- 11:44time for 45 whatever minutes, I kept
- 11:46looking around like, "Hey, here I am up
- 11:48the front," you know, and and I was so
- 11:50like I was there early. I was different,
- 11:52you know, and I was just like very happy
- 11:54to be sitting on the front row there.
- 11:56This preacher preached a phenomenal
- 11:57message. He came off the pullpit and he
- 12:00started shaking the people's hands of
- 12:01his staff and he said, "God bless you.
- 12:03Have a wonderful Sunday. God bless you.
- 12:05Have a wonderful Sunday." And I was at
- 12:06the very very end and I was like this. I
- 12:09was like, I can't wait to meet this man
- 12:11of God, you know, and and I'm sitting
- 12:12here on the front row, you know, and
- 12:14it's his church and I was like, I can't
- 12:15wait to meet him. And he knows that I
- 12:17know his staff member. And so he gets to
- 12:19everybody. He's like, hey, God bless
- 12:20you. Have a wonderful Sunday. And I'm
- 12:22just waiting like this, you know, and he
- 12:24gets to me and he looks me in the eye
- 12:25and he goes, he pulls his hand away and
- 12:28he walks away. He shook everybody's
- 12:30hands except mine. And I was like this.
- 12:33And inside my heart's like, and then
- 12:36straight away my thoughts did this. He
- 12:38hates you. He's seen a Facebook post
- 12:39that you did and he doesn't agree with
- 12:40your theology. He doesn't like what you
- 12:42say. He heard some bad thing about you.
- 12:44He saw a demon in your eyes when he
- 12:46looked at you. Now, how many of you have
- 12:47had that thought? Be honest. Be Hey,
- 12:50that's like four people. Be honest.
- 12:51You've had that thought before. Man of
- 12:53God looks at you in the eyes. I had one
- 12:54guy come to me once. He goes, "You were
- 12:56looking at me the whole sermon. What did
- 12:57you see me?" I said, "Bro, I was
- 12:58thinking about lunch. When do we do the
- 13:00lunch? You know, when does the lunch
- 13:01happen?" And he's like, "You saw
- 13:03something in me, didn't you?" I was
- 13:04like, "Uh, I do now cuz you're right in
- 13:06front of me. I see a lot of fear of man
- 13:08in you, but I but some people are so
- 13:11paranoid." So my thoughts went to
- 13:13extreme paranoia. And so in that very
- 13:15peaceful state of mind, I turned to this
- 13:17other staff member. I said, "Did you see
- 13:19that?" And he goes, "See what, buddy?" I
- 13:21said, "He didn't shake my hand." And he
- 13:23went, "Oh, I'm sure he didn't see." I
- 13:24said, "He looked me in the eyeballs. He
- 13:26saw me in the eyeballs." He said as he
- 13:28pulled the hand away and I said, "Does
- 13:31he know anything about me? does he is he
- 13:32concerned about me? And he goes, "Bro, I
- 13:34think you're being a little bit too
- 13:35extreme." I said, "I'm not." You know, I
- 13:37decided to get in this crazy thing. So,
- 13:39in that very peaceful state of mind, I
- 13:41decided to run to the car park with his
- 13:43security and him and chase him to his
- 13:45car because what I was going to do is I
- 13:48was going to go to the car and say,
- 13:49"Hey, excuse me. I'm so sorry if I've
- 13:52done something to offend you. I don't
- 13:53even know what I'm apologizing for."
- 13:56Some of you are like this. You have the
- 13:57fear of man so stuck in your head that
- 13:59if somebody gives you the wrong look or
- 14:01doesn't hug you that day, you think for
- 14:033 days about what they thought of you.
- 14:05Some of you lives with so much traffic
- 14:07in your mind. You don't know how to
- 14:08break free and follow Jesus when he's
- 14:11speaking to you. Cuz you're worried,
- 14:12what will everybody think of me if I
- 14:14follow Jesus? Even Christians, it's like
- 14:16a plague in the body of Christ. That's
- 14:18the reason God says stop. And you're
- 14:20like, oh, is which lady? I can't stop
- 14:22her. Cuz that 10-second thought of in
- 14:25her head of who you are means more to
- 14:28you in that moment and stabilizes your
- 14:30identity more than the millions of
- 14:31thoughts like the sands of the seashore
- 14:33that Jesus has for you. You are stuck in
- 14:36people's mindset and you haven't
- 14:38anchored your life fully on the fear of
- 14:41God, the only right fear. And I thought
- 14:45I was so free. Everyone thought I was so
- 14:48bold until that day. I chased him to the
- 14:50car park and praise the Lord. Before I
- 14:53got to his car, he just drove right off
- 14:56the edge of the the thing where he was
- 14:58and I was like, "Uhoh." In my head, I
- 15:00was like, "I'll not get to speak to this
- 15:02man for weeks, months. I don't know how
- 15:04I'm going to talk to him. How will I
- 15:05find out what demon he saw in my life?
- 15:07How will I find out what I've done
- 15:08against him or what Facebook post he
- 15:11hated that I did?" Guys, if you live
- 15:14with constant internal traffic in your
- 15:16head of people's opinions of you and yet
- 15:18you walk right with God, let me make a
- 15:20statement to you. It doesn't matter if
- 15:22the Pope himself rang and said, "I hate
- 15:23you." If you're right here and you're
- 15:25right here, it doesn't matter what any
- 15:27human says. The Lord Jesus has accepted
- 15:30you. If you are right here, see the
- 15:34scripture promise you'll be
- 15:35misunderstood. But if you're clean here
- 15:38and clean here, loving here, not a
- 15:40bitter person, not a gossiper, not a
- 15:42criticizer, but loving. It doesn't
- 15:44matter if people misunderstand you. They
- 15:45misunderstood Jesus, didn't they? Even
- 15:48Christians misunderstood people like
- 15:49Peter. People were angry at certain
- 15:52types of people. But that's all right.
- 15:54But see, I had this very deep root where
- 15:56I'd anchored everything on what the
- 15:59Christian world was giving to me or what
- 16:00certain friendships were giving to me. I
- 16:02didn't know. I didn't even know it was
- 16:03in me. So anyway, he drove past me and I
- 16:06felt like Yahweh, Father God, was
- 16:08watching me in that car park. You want
- 16:10to know who the man was? It was Bill
- 16:14Johnson. It was Bill. Do you know why I
- 16:17tell you that? Do you ever think Bill
- 16:18Johnson would be mean enough to do that?
- 16:22Nuh-uh. Neither did I until that
- 16:26moment. But when Bill Johnson doesn't
- 16:28shake your hand, he looks you in the
- 16:29eyeballs. It scares you. I tell you
- 16:31right now, because Bill is so kind all
- 16:32the time. So that took me to level 400.
- 16:35You know, I was like, he really doesn't
- 16:36like me. He saw something very bad in my
- 16:38life. And so when he drove away, I
- 16:40thought, how am I going to get to Bill?
- 16:42How am I going to speak to him about
- 16:44this problem? You know, and I was trying
- 16:46to convince friends who work there like,
- 16:47can you ask Bill is, you know, so crazy.
- 16:50And I felt like God was looking right at
- 16:52me. And as he I was there standing at
- 16:55the Bethl church car
- 16:56park, I remember the father began to
- 16:59speak to me and said, "Ben, I need to
- 17:01speak to you about what you trust in. I
- 17:03need to speak to you about what you're
- 17:05building your life
- 17:06upon." And I thought of all these
- 17:09scenarios where I'd be with these
- 17:11well-known ministers and someone would
- 17:12go, "Hey," they're like, "Hey, did you
- 17:14see that movie on the weekend?" And
- 17:15they're talking to each other and I'm
- 17:16sort of just sort of now kind of there
- 17:18as an intern or something and and they'd
- 17:20go like this, "Yeah, it was an amazing
- 17:22movie. It's Spider-Man 2, right? And and
- 17:24they're like, "Yeah, yeah, it was
- 17:24amazing. I took my kids." And then I'm
- 17:26just standing there like, "Cool, man. I
- 17:27get to hang with these man men of God."
- 17:29And then they'd look at me and go, "You
- 17:30saw that, Ben?" I'd go. And the Holy
- 17:32Spirit inside me is like, "You're
- 17:33nodding your head. You never saw the
- 17:34movie. Why are you lying?" And I'm like,
- 17:36"Ah, yeah, I saw." And I go, "Yeah, the
- 17:38best bit was this." And inside me, I'm
- 17:40like, "What am I nodding my head for?
- 17:42What am I changing myself for? Why did I
- 17:44go into these conversations and raise my
- 17:46voice and go, "Hey, hey, hey, Chris
- 17:48Valadin. Hey, why am I calling him
- 17:49Valadin? Why am I calling him by his
- 17:50last name? I I I walk away and be so
- 17:53weird. I'd act so weird around certain
- 17:55people. And I was like, why am I acting
- 17:56like a fruitc
- 17:57cake because I had this weird value
- 18:00system that people are the promotion
- 18:03tool or people need to accept me. And I
- 18:06realized, I didn't realize this, but it
- 18:07came from my dad's suicide. It came from
- 18:10the fact that my father just took off
- 18:12one day. So I developed, let's say, a
- 18:15rooted lie inside me and a fear of man
- 18:16in me that someday people will just turn
- 18:18on you. and I hadn't anchored myself in
- 18:21the fear of the Lord that it doesn't
- 18:23matter. It doesn't matter what people
- 18:24will do to you. But I didn't know this.
- 18:26So I began to remember all these
- 18:27scenarios. I I remembered all these
- 18:30times I changed who I was and became
- 18:32like a chameleon that could adjust, but
- 18:34I wouldn't speak my true opinion. I
- 18:36wouldn't tell the truth because I was
- 18:38worried if I was too extreme, someone
- 18:40will cut you off. If you're too this,
- 18:42someone will cut you off. And that's
- 18:43happening right now, my friends. There
- 18:45is preachers out there right now and
- 18:47they're committing a great sin because
- 18:48they have like a snake. They have two
- 18:50tongues. They're telling you, you know,
- 18:51I've really studied the etmology of this
- 18:54word and hell and and they're deceiving
- 18:56multitudes. And multitudes are falling
- 18:58for it. And they're doing this. You know
- 19:00why? They're not doing it because they
- 19:01love to deceive. They're doing it
- 19:03because they love to be loved. They want
- 19:05you to. They tickle. They they have
- 19:08itching ear people. They tickle the part
- 19:09of us that we don't that we we don't
- 19:11like to hear the tough message. So they
- 19:13tickle that away and they just want love
- 19:15for themselves. They're just broken men,
- 19:17broken women. And they change the word
- 19:19of God and make it null to no effect.
- 19:20And Paul said it's cursed. And so in
- 19:23some way, part of my lifestyle was
- 19:25cursed. And I wondered why I always felt
- 19:27like I was getting
- 19:29rejected. Put your hand up if you feel
- 19:31like you get rejected a little too much.
- 19:33I want to propose to you. Here's the
- 19:35reason why. You have made a pseudo you
- 19:38that God never made.
- 19:41Let me explain that. You've made a
- 19:44person that adjusts all the time,
- 19:46doesn't tell the truth, doesn't speak
- 19:47the truth, is always trying to make sure
- 19:49everyone's pleased with you, and you're
- 19:51like this little person who's watching
- 19:53every Facebook comment, watching every
- 19:54little thing, watching every convers.
- 19:56I'm so sorry. You say sorry 5,000 times
- 19:58a day, and you've made a second person,
- 20:00and God intends for that to be rejected
- 20:02because that's not who he made. So, it
- 20:04will na naturally be rejected. You'll
- 20:06constantly get rejected. Then you'll be
- 20:07like, I'm struggling with a spirit of
- 20:09rejection. People come to me all the
- 20:11time. They come on the prayer line. Ben,
- 20:12would you pray for me? I see you're so
- 20:13bold. They say, "But I get I I suffer
- 20:16with rejection." I pray for them like
- 20:17this. I go, "Sure." I put my hand on
- 20:19their head and say, "Father, give them
- 20:2010 more amazing rejections, way worse
- 20:23than the last ones, until they stop
- 20:25grounding themselves on everybody's
- 20:27opinion of them. We have made a Goliath
- 20:30out of
- 20:31rejection. We have made the spirit of
- 20:34rejection, a Goliath. It can be dealt
- 20:36with in 10 seconds. You come off the
- 20:39foundation of everyone's opinions and
- 20:41fear of man and living for them. You
- 20:43come on to Jesus and you go, I reject
- 20:45building my life around everybody's
- 20:47thoughts of me, but heaven's thoughts
- 20:48matter. And then you say, I renounce
- 20:51every devil of rejection. Some people
- 20:52want to keep their demons. Some people
- 20:54use a spirit of rejection to get
- 20:57acceptance. Oh, can you pray for me
- 20:59again? Do you mean, can I accept you
- 21:00again? Do you mean, can I give you value
- 21:03again? Can I give you attention again?
- 21:04Why don't you get rid of the devil?
- 21:06Because then you'll become the real you.
- 21:07Then everyone's going to love what the
- 21:08diamond of Jesus they see in your life.
- 21:10They're going to love that. We've made a
- 21:13Goliath out of rejection. People write
- 21:14books about it. It's
- 21:16nonsense. It's just us anchoring
- 21:18ourselves outside of the truth. And I
- 21:21had done it. I didn't even know because
- 21:22everyone's like, "You're so bold." Okay,
- 21:25so here's what happened. You want to
- 21:27know what actually happened that day?
- 21:29Bill Johnson shook all those people's
- 21:31hands and he looked past my head at a
- 21:33woman behind me. I think he didn't even
- 21:36see me. When I told Bill, I said, "Bill,
- 21:38I'm writing a book called Breaking the
- 21:39Fear of Man, and you happen to be in the
- 21:41book." And um you don't you don't know
- 21:43you're in the book, but you're in the
- 21:44book. And I explained the whole thing to
- 21:46him, and he goes, "Oh, Ben, I am so
- 21:48sorry I didn't shake your hand." I said,
- 21:50"I'm not sorry. It revealed the greatest
- 21:52demon spirit lie in my life that was in
- 21:55my life, and it changed me big time."
- 21:57And I said, I'm writing a book called
- 21:59Breaking the Fear of Man to help
- 22:00Christians all over the world break the
- 22:01fear of man out of their life so they
- 22:03can follow the voice of God and not fear
- 22:05humanity. Cuz we live in a day and age
- 22:07where everybody wants to be liked.
- 22:09Literally, we've reduced our identity to
- 22:11a double tap. Oh, we were really made
- 22:14for this all day. Another 4 hours a day.
- 22:16We weren't made for that nonsense. We
- 22:18were made for the glory of Jesus. And
- 22:21so, I can't wait to finish this book.
- 22:23And Bill said, I said, "Bill, I'm going
- 22:24to take your name out of the book." He
- 22:25said, "No, no, no. please put my name in
- 22:27there. He said, "Make it as authentic as
- 22:29you can." I was like, "Really? That
- 22:30makes you look kind of weird." But I was
- 22:31like, "Okay, I'll put it in." But I I
- 22:34put later in the book that he didn't see
- 22:35me at all. And he was so gracious. And I
- 22:38said, "Bill, it revealed to me that I
- 22:40was idolizing the opinions of people
- 22:43over Jesus. I was living in a strange
- 22:46way because what if Jesus starts to tell
- 22:48you you're going to be a prophet to the
- 22:49nations?" Guess what most of our
- 22:51prophets are now? They're pulpit
- 22:52prophets. They won't tell the truth.
- 22:54They just tell you what you want to
- 22:55hear. They want an invite. They don't
- 22:56want to tell you the word of the Lord.
- 22:57Kim Clement was a real prophet. He'll
- 22:59tell you the word of the Lord. People
- 23:01like him would go, "The Lord says." They
- 23:03would say, "Lazy church, lazy house of
- 23:05God who doesn't pray." They would give
- 23:07these sharp words like, "Ah, he cut
- 23:08you." You've got some of them in Africa.
- 23:10I remember one guy recently said, he
- 23:12said, "The nation of Uganda will be at
- 23:14war in the month of November. There'll
- 23:15be a civil war. 83,000 people died." The
- 23:17president rang that guy and he said, "I
- 23:19need to meet with you because it
- 23:20happened." And then he said there's no
- 23:22rain also in this area of Uganda for 6
- 23:24months. And he said if you repent
- 23:26president and let all these people from
- 23:27the country come out there if you repent
- 23:30and if all the people repent together
- 23:31we'll cry out to God. It will rain that
- 23:33day. 3 million people showed up. And
- 23:35I've watched the video. They stand on
- 23:37the pulpit like this. Father forgive us
- 23:38as a country. It buckets rain so much
- 23:41you can't even see the camera. It
- 23:43buckets rain. But we don't have prophets
- 23:46like that anymore. Why do you think no
- 23:49no no prophets heard about CO? Because
- 23:51they don't hear about CO because their
- 23:53ears. They hear what the body wants to
- 23:55hear. They hear about their ministry.
- 23:58They don't say, "Thus sayaith the Lord."
- 24:00I see seasons of refreshing. I don't see
- 24:01that. I see in 2025 when I was fasting
- 24:04recently, God told me there's going to
- 24:05be a major financial problem hitting the
- 24:07world. He told me that the oil price
- 24:08will go to $200 next year per barrel. I
- 24:12don't even know about oil stocks. Some
- 24:13of you dudes might know. I have no clue
- 24:14about it. And then I looked it up. $70
- 24:17right now, which means this, we will
- 24:18head into some kind of financial
- 24:20recession where oil goes through the
- 24:22roof or there's a war and it stops oil
- 24:24again, but through the roof oil. And I
- 24:26was like, "Praise God. If I have some
- 24:27money, I'll give put money in oil." Now,
- 24:30you can test this in a year if I'm
- 24:32right, but I don't have the need to
- 24:34please you. I have the need to hear and
- 24:36speak, hear and say. We don't have those
- 24:38prophets. Now, I'm not a prophet. I'm
- 24:41not boasting on me. I'm just saying when
- 24:42I had the fear of man in me, I could
- 24:44never tell the truth because I was
- 24:46worried if you speak truth like that,
- 24:48you won't get invited
- 24:49back cuz that is true. We love the
- 24:52people that make us feel warm and, you
- 24:55know, fluffy and stuff. But those people
- 24:57sometimes are just telling us the stuff
- 24:59we've heard for 50 years. We need people
- 25:01that tell us the truth about God. That's
- 25:03a question I have for you. How come no
- 25:05prophets knew of CO, the largest
- 25:07worldwide event in probably the last 30
- 25:09years? Why didn't they know? Do you
- 25:11think God's like, "I'm going to be
- 25:12silent and not tell anybody." No. The
- 25:14Lord knows and he wants to speak. He
- 25:16spoke to a few. They gave some sort of
- 25:17close things, but I believe in this day
- 25:19and age, the reason we don't hear
- 25:20clearly is cuz we hear and then we go,
- 25:22"That message doesn't sound right,
- 25:24though. The people won't believe that or
- 25:25we're not supposed to prophesy something
- 25:27that could be second heaven." It's
- 25:28become so complicated, so complex. You
- 25:31sit in front of God, you get pure,
- 25:33you're holy, you cut off demons out of
- 25:35your life, you walk holy, you walk pure,
- 25:36and you say, "God, what do you say?" And
- 25:38then he says this and then you say it.
- 25:40My mentor's wife, she rang this lady and
- 25:42she said to her, she said, "I'm giving
- 25:43you a warning from the Lord. If you
- 25:45continue in alcoholism," cuz she had
- 25:47three kids, she was burning all the
- 25:48money. The kids weren't eating any food
- 25:50at all. And the lady was in her church.
- 25:51The lady would get drunk every night.
- 25:52And she said, "Sweetheart, the Lord has
- 25:54spoken to me. If you continue in
- 25:56alcoholism, you will die." And she said,
- 25:58"Oh, no. I don't, you know, I don't
- 26:00believe that." She said, "The Lord has
- 26:01told me." And the Lord even told me the
- 26:03day in 10 days time if you do not quit
- 26:05alcohol, you will be gone off the face
- 26:07of this planet. You're spending all your
- 26:08kids' money on alcohol and you're a
- 26:10Christian. You know better by now and
- 26:11you're tempting God. And then all of a
- 26:13sudden uh 10 days later, she didn't quit
- 26:15it. She dropped dead in her kitchen.
- 26:18That's my mentor's wife. Because my
- 26:20mentor was taught, you listen to God,
- 26:22you preach the gospel, you tell the
- 26:23truth, and uh and he I'm so thankful God
- 26:26sent him into my life, especially at a
- 26:27critical time when I was bound by the
- 26:30fear of man. So, let me explain how I
- 26:32got set free of this. Now, by the way,
- 26:34some of you might be like even now like,
- 26:35I don't believe God would say it. That's
- 26:37cool. You can have that belief, but I
- 26:39believe he said it. And I'm not saying
- 26:41she went to hell. But what I am saying
- 26:43is this. We don't talk a lot about the
- 26:45severity of Jesus in this book. We don't
- 26:47talk about Ananas and Safar. We make up
- 26:49doctrines like, well, God just whisked
- 26:50Ananas and Safar into heaven and Peter
- 26:53was the one who declared it. Read the
- 26:55accounts of Acts. I remember preaching
- 26:57in one church one time and uh and this
- 26:59is, you know, God using me and the
- 27:01worship leader uh was 40 and he sleeping
- 27:03with an 18-year-old girl and um and he
- 27:06had a wife as well and they invited me
- 27:08to the church. I warned the pastor. I
- 27:09said, "Are you sure you want me to
- 27:11come?" He said, "Yes, I'm sure. I want
- 27:13you to be there." And so he said, "We
- 27:14want you to preach a message about the
- 27:16gospel." I said, "Sure, okay, I'll
- 27:17come." And so I asked God what to
- 27:19preach. He said, "Yeah, preach the
- 27:20gospel." And he said, "But I also want
- 27:21you to preach about sin." And so I
- 27:23started preaching about sin. Well, next
- 27:25minute a kid up the very back starts
- 27:27screaming and just runs to the front and
- 27:29screaming demons coming out of him. And
- 27:31then um the the worship leader dude who
- 27:33was married who was cheating on his wife
- 27:35who was the worship leader, he starts
- 27:36like getting like full-on angry and then
- 27:38he comes at the front and he's just
- 27:40going bananas at me and stuff and all
- 27:42these guys start going crazy. It
- 27:43literally split the church down the
- 27:44middle. Half them were crying to God
- 27:46saying this, "Lord, we needed this. This
- 27:48is you." And the hand of God fell on the
- 27:50building and about 50 people like uh
- 27:51everywhere screaming out to God, demons
- 27:53coming out all the time and it was
- 27:55beautiful. And the pastor was divided
- 27:56between the two. He didn't know what to
- 27:57do. The glory of God or his the offended
- 28:00people. He didn't know how to deal with
- 28:01it. But the offended people were mainly
- 28:03in sin, physical sin, I mean. And so I
- 28:06said, "The Lord wants to restore this
- 28:08church." And uh and he did. The Lord
- 28:10restored it. It was really cool. But
- 28:11halfway through a demon came out of one
- 28:13of the elders and he fell backwards on
- 28:15the ground. and he was squirming like a
- 28:16worm and it it tried to bang his head
- 28:18against the heater and the wife jumped
- 28:20on top of his chest and slapped him in
- 28:22the face and yeah, seriously, she
- 28:24slapped him in the face and she said,
- 28:25"What are you doing? You're embarrassing
- 28:27me in front of the whole church." And
- 28:28then he snapped out of it. The demon
- 28:29went right back into his body. She
- 28:31pulled him off the ground and they both
- 28:32came at me. As they came at me, to cut a
- 28:35very long story short, as they came at
- 28:37me, the judgment of God fell on him. I
- 28:39won't get into what happened, but
- 28:40basically he was thrown to the ground.
- 28:42and he was thrown to the ground and
- 28:44nothing could fix him. His body was
- 28:46totally just boom. Like he he went to me
- 28:49to try and he went right at me and was
- 28:51screaming in front of the whole church
- 28:52with the wife. How dare you? Look what
- 28:54you've done to the church. And then just
- 28:55the hand of God just fell on him. Like
- 28:57Acts chapter 13. And I was like, "Oh, I
- 28:59remember that's in the book of
- 29:02Acts." But but but see, we don't
- 29:04remember that now. We're like, "No, no,
- 29:06no. That that couldn't have been the
- 29:07father's nature." Yes, it can be. Yeah.
- 29:09Yeah. The father isn't like, "Please,
- 29:11would can we get a few more worship
- 29:12leaders who cheat on their wives? Let's
- 29:13get a few more, please." No, the father
- 29:15is
- 29:16holy. But I would never have preached
- 29:18that before. I would never have preached
- 29:20that before cuz I'd want you to be so
- 29:22pleased with my amazing message. And how
- 29:24many of you love three-point messages?
- 29:25No. No one does. You don't even remember
- 29:27them. But you remember encounters. You
- 29:30remember the truth of scripture. You
- 29:32remember pure Bible. And you can refer
- 29:34to pure Bible. You can't refer to three
- 29:36points of your best life.
- 29:38Okay, so here's what happened to me.
- 29:40After Bill didn't shake my hand, I went
- 29:42into a conipian fit and freaked out. And
- 29:45I said, "God, it's clear to me now."
- 29:47Because I remembered all the scenarios
- 29:48where I'd done the wrong thing and kind
- 29:50of twisted truth and kind of fit in
- 29:52everywhere and loved the green room. I
- 29:55remembered
- 29:57them. And the Lord said to me, "I want
- 29:59you to fast." Halfway through the fast,
- 30:01he told me, "Open to the book of
- 30:02Jeremiah." And now I don't know if you
- 30:04know Jeremiah well, but there's not as
- 30:06many encouraging verses in there. You
- 30:08know, it's very encouraging, but like my
- 30:10life, like honestly, in that season,
- 30:12I've done this so many times. I've gone,
- 30:13"Father, please speak to me." You ever
- 30:15done that? Every time I'd do that, I'd
- 30:17be like, "Father, please." I'd be
- 30:18begging God in my room, "Please speak to
- 30:20me." And he kill a hundred foxes and
- 30:21hang them backwards on a fence. I would
- 30:23get the weirdest verses. Have you ever
- 30:25had that? Why do you guys not put up
- 30:27your hands? Have you ever had that?
- 30:28Yeah. Okay. Have you ever gone like
- 30:30this, "Father, please speak. Speak."
- 30:31Deuteronomy. Yes. Yes. Yes. Chapter 54.
- 30:34Yeah. Yeah. And you get there. There is
- 30:35no chapter 54. It ends at chapter 5.
- 30:38Like, have you ever had that? Yeah. I've
- 30:40had that so many times. And cuz you're
- 30:42really seeking. I think God probably
- 30:45laughs. God's like,
- 30:47uh, if you just believe the
- 30:50truth. I used to do that. So, when God
- 30:52said to me, "Turn to the book of
- 30:54Jeremiah," I was like, "Okay, he's going
- 30:55to give me a kind of solid rebuke here."
- 30:57And uh and I was halfway through this
- 30:59long fast and I was seeking the Lord
- 31:01saying, "Father, please, I can see that
- 31:03I am manipulated. I am a person who
- 31:06manipulates. It must have been something
- 31:08to do with my father's suicide, but I am
- 31:10worried about everyone's opinions. I
- 31:12think all night about things that people
- 31:14say to me or stuff I said in a sermon
- 31:16wrong. I remember one time the the
- 31:18biggest invitation I ever got to speak.
- 31:20It was a guardrail like this in Indiana
- 31:22and it was my first big kind of
- 31:24conference like this and I was standing
- 31:26there like this. Can you still see me?
- 31:27Sorry, cameraman. I love you. Um, and I
- 31:30was standing and the pastor started
- 31:31introducing me and all of a sudden my
- 31:33heart like this and I was so like this
- 31:36so so much um heart beating like that
- 31:38that I began to faint. I began to
- 31:41literally go like I had twinkles in the
- 31:42eyes and stuff and his voice
- 31:44went like and I'm like and I'm like oh
- 31:46uhoh. And so I did what we all should
- 31:48do. I said I rebuke you devil. He's get
- 31:50off my heart in Jesus name. And I
- 31:52rebuked it again. Get off me right now.
- 31:53And it got worse. And so I had to grab
- 31:55the rail and he's introducing me. And
- 31:57then the sweet Holy Spirit right by that
- 31:59rail spoke to me so clear like a knife.
- 32:03And he said to me, "Son, people only get
- 32:06this nervous when they're about to put
- 32:07on a
- 32:11performance." And I realized standing
- 32:13there, I prepared all these things. I
- 32:16did everything. But secretly, there was
- 32:18this hook in me that was ministering not
- 32:20to feed his sheep, but to feed me. You
- 32:23see, I had the fear of man. Well, I
- 32:28turned to Jeremiah that day in the
- 32:30middle of the fast and I literally
- 32:32flicked my thumb to the chapter of
- 32:35Jeremiah 17. Would you go there, please?
- 32:37Jeremiah 17. Jeremiah. It's right after
- 32:45Isaiah. Jeremiah 17.
- 32:49See, can you imagine what the destiny of
- 32:51the kingdom of God in the church would
- 32:53look like if we had no fear of man? Can
- 32:55you imagine? Can you imagine in Europe
- 32:57where the median church size is 40 to 50
- 32:59people and where church planting is so
- 33:01slow? Can you imagine if someone went,
- 33:02"I don't care about culture. I just care
- 33:04what the Lord said and just did what God
- 33:05said." Can you imagine the revivals we'd
- 33:07have? Oh my goodness. Can you imagine
- 33:09what would happen in America if God just
- 33:10raises up these preachers who preach
- 33:12just pure solid gospel like you heard
- 33:14last night? Like you hear from Dr.
- 33:15Randy. If can you imagine the effect on
- 33:18the on the bride if all of us were
- 33:20preaching the gospel because that
- 33:22heartbeat of stop stop and you don't
- 33:24stop and that could be hell. We don't
- 33:26know if that person's on their last day
- 33:28last year last whatever we don't know.
- 33:30Can you imagine the effect of living a
- 33:32fearless life? Wouldn't it be glorious
- 33:34to see people would write books they
- 33:36they'd get an idea. See the world
- 33:38doesn't have the restraints of fear that
- 33:39we have. We are so worried about what
- 33:41other believers think of us that we
- 33:42don't do things often. And that's how I
- 33:45lived. But I didn't realize it. I opened
- 33:48to Jeremiah 17. My eyes fell on verse 5.
- 33:51Would you read this slowly with me? Thus
- 33:53says the Lord. Cursed is the man who
- 33:58trusts in man and makes flesh his
- 34:04strength.
- 34:05Whoa. Whose heart departs from the
- 34:10Lord. You notice that word cursed.
- 34:15Why? Because he's going to change the
- 34:17message. He's going to change the
- 34:19foundation. He's going to change who
- 34:21fills him. And he's going to trust in
- 34:23broken vessels just like he is. And
- 34:25what's going to happen is he's going to
- 34:26get validation from humans. But his
- 34:28heart is going to go cold toward Jesus,
- 34:30the one he really needs. And therefore,
- 34:33you have all these Old Testament people
- 34:35around Jeremiah's time who are
- 34:36prophesying peace, peace, peace, peace.
- 34:39But they were trusting in man. They
- 34:42trusted in what people were giving to
- 34:43them more than what God gave them. In
- 34:45the book of Psalms in the 75th chapter,
- 34:4776th chapter, it says, "Exaltation does
- 34:50not come from the east or the west. It
- 34:52comes from the hand of God. He puts one
- 34:55down, he raises another up. God is the
- 34:56one who raises your life up." So when I
- 34:59read this, it smacked me in the face.
- 35:01And God said to me, he said, "Son, this
- 35:03is the reality of the way you structure
- 35:06your heart and your life. You live this
- 35:08way. and I want to uproot in you the
- 35:10fear of man so that you would fully obey
- 35:12me, so that you would fully please me.
- 35:14Well, right before this, this is the
- 35:16story that this part that's really
- 35:18crazy. Right before this, God had spoken
- 35:21to me to do my first ever Awakening
- 35:23Europe event like the ones you saw on
- 35:24the screen in Nuremberg, Germany, in the
- 35:27stadium Hitler
- 35:29used. When I got back to Bethl Church,
- 35:32Bill and all my amazing leaders, they're
- 35:34empowering leaders. I shared with them,
- 35:36"God spoke to me in Germany. Something's
- 35:38going to happen in Nuremberg, Germany.
- 35:40And a Jesus culture worship leader had
- 35:42this dream in 2011 where they saw this
- 35:45place called Nurm on a hill, but they
- 35:47didn't know Berg means hill. And and I
- 35:49said, "God is going to do something,
- 35:51Bill. God's going to do something,
- 35:52Paul." I told them, and they they said,
- 35:54"Okay, well, let's see." They said, "I
- 35:56can feel God's hand on you. Actually, I
- 35:57can feel the hand of the Lord something
- 35:59in this. So, let's see." It was awesome
- 36:00how they did that. They didn't just kill
- 36:02the vision. They let me sort of explore
- 36:04it. So healthy. That's such great
- 36:06leadership. It's so bad when someone
- 36:08comes to us and we're threatened by
- 36:09somebody's else's bigger idea. That just
- 36:11shows you you fear, man. You're getting
- 36:13all your value from your biggest idea
- 36:14instead of from Jesus. How many churches
- 36:16do you have, brother? Well, we have 50.
- 36:18How many do you have? 49. Oh, okay.
- 36:20Well, you'll get to 50 one day. It's all
- 36:21garbage. It's all such stupidness. When
- 36:24you get to heaven, you don't hand Jesus
- 36:25a card. Here's my 50 churches card. You
- 36:28know, here it is. Where do I sit in
- 36:30heaven? He might be like, go back to the
- 36:32back door. You know, you need to you
- 36:35need to learn some things. We are all
- 36:36one kingdom. We should celebrate
- 36:39everything Jesus is doing. Every book
- 36:42that is written, every conference that
- 36:44is done, every stadium, every soul, we
- 36:46should celebrate if someone comes to
- 36:47Jesus through a hot dog or they come to
- 36:50Jesus through the most full-on finial.
- 36:53We should celebrate it. But see, people
- 36:55compete. People are against each other
- 36:57because they think that Christianity is
- 36:59a place where we climb a totem pole and
- 37:01we have to be accepted. No, we're
- 37:02accepted from God first. And so I
- 37:04realized that I had this deep issue. Now
- 37:07I hired the stadium. So these German
- 37:09leaders flew to Bethl and they wanted to
- 37:11meet with the senior team and I was
- 37:13allowed to sit with some of the senior
- 37:14team in this meeting. Now I'm a little
- 37:17young guy, first uh first year on staff
- 37:19at Bethl, but I have this vision from
- 37:20God. And so I'm sitting there and they
- 37:22didn't talk to me. They talked to to
- 37:24this senior person and said, "Ben can't
- 37:26do this. He doesn't understand Germans.
- 37:28He doesn't know the German people. He
- 37:30doesn't know how hard it is in Germany.
- 37:31It's going to fail. it's going to cost
- 37:33him a million euro. It's going to be
- 37:34really bad and it's going to look
- 37:35shameful for the German church. And I'm
- 37:37sitting there, I'm like, Ben, you can
- 37:38talk to me, too. I'm right here. They
- 37:40wouldn't talk to me. And they were
- 37:41saying, "Don't let him do this." The
- 37:43They flew all the way from Germany to
- 37:45convince Bethl to not let me do it. Now,
- 37:48as I'm sitting there, it was around the
- 37:50time God was snapping this fear of man
- 37:52off me. And then a a few months later, a
- 37:55few weeks later, a prophet came to Bethl
- 37:57and he said, "I feel the Lord's on
- 37:58something with Germany." And he said,
- 37:59"You young man, the Lord's on you for
- 38:01Germany. Would you stand up?" And he
- 38:03came off the stage and he put his hand
- 38:04on me and he said, "God's going to use
- 38:06you to to raise up the Jesus freaks of
- 38:08Germany." And I was like, "Wow." And so
- 38:11I'm like I'm like, "Yes, yes." And then
- 38:15Eric Johnson came to me. He said, he
- 38:16goes, "Do you tell him about that?" I
- 38:18said, "No, I haven't told anybody but
- 38:19you guys." And he said, "Come to the the
- 38:21staffed dinner, the conference dinner
- 38:23with us, the lunch, and tell him tell
- 38:25him and have dinner." And so I get there
- 38:27to the dinner and I go to meet the guy
- 38:28and I said, "You you prophesied over me
- 38:30and I had tracksuit pants on." You know
- 38:32what tracksuit pants are? Like joggers.
- 38:34Joggers. You call them joggers? Yeah.
- 38:35Okay. Whatever. Let's say cheap pants. I
- 38:39I had cheap pants on and I said, "Hey, I
- 38:41said I'm the guy and look at my hair,
- 38:43you know, like look at the way I am. I I
- 38:45don't look like Yeah. Anyway, so I said,
- 38:48"Hey, I'm the guy that you prophesied
- 38:49over that God's going to use in Germany
- 38:50and I've hired a stadium and I believe
- 38:51God's going to use me." And then he
- 38:53started to retract every part of the
- 38:56word. Germany's probably not ready. You
- 38:59know, you need a lot of favor with
- 39:00leaders over there. You need to be very
- 39:02careful. How old are you? Young guy.
- 39:03Okay. He starts giving me that. And I
- 39:05walked out of that meeting and I walked
- 39:07down the hallway of Bethl. And because
- 39:08the Lord had started to deal with me, I
- 39:10heard God speak so strongly. He said
- 39:12this. You going to listen to man or you
- 39:13going to listen to me? You going to
- 39:15listen to me or
- 39:17man? So we went to Nuremberg. We went to
- 39:20the stadium that Hitler used to
- 39:21conscribe the youth and say join the
- 39:24army burning Bibles. We went there. It
- 39:26was the largest meeting for Jesus in
- 39:29Germany in 50 years. The stadium was
- 39:32full. The whole place was full. 2 and a
- 39:34half thousand Germans were saved. It was
- 39:37wild. Almost 30,000 people were there
- 39:41and they were adoring Jesus. They were
- 39:44shouting for 2 hours. Germans Germans
- 39:47were like this. Y zos yos for two hours
- 39:52in the same stadium. If I had have
- 39:55feared
- 39:56man, if I had have listened to the
- 39:59opinions of people, if God hadn't have
- 40:01begun to say, "Cursed is this
- 40:03foundation," I would have nothing to
- 40:05follow through with with obedience. And
- 40:07some of you are like that. God is
- 40:09telling you to obey. And you don't obey
- 40:12because you're worried about what people
- 40:14will think when you obey. You don't stop
- 40:17the lady at the cafe. People come to me
- 40:19all the time, Ben, it's easy for you to
- 40:20talk to people. I have a problem with
- 40:21that. That's lies. I hear these girls up
- 40:24here, they talk ladies. Oh my goodness.
- 40:25This is my favorite Maybelline. Have you
- 40:26used L'Oreal, though? L'Oreal is way
- 40:28better. I mean, L'Oreal is like a no-
- 40:30run dry. I can be in the glory just
- 40:31weeping and doesn't even run. You're a
- 40:33L'Oreal evangelist. You preach L'Oreal.
- 40:35You get converts. You get them saved.
- 40:37You k join L'Oreal. Here's your
- 40:39disciplehip pack with
- 40:40L'Oreal. You are bold. Every Christian
- 40:44speaks about what they're passionate
- 40:45about. When you're in a coffee shop, you
- 40:48don't go like this. You don't go,
- 40:49"Excuse me. Um, I ordered a triple soy.
- 40:52Can is it okay if I ask for a soy?" You
- 40:54don't do that. You're like, "Excuse me,
- 40:55ma'am. Ma'am, you know, you're like a
- 40:57you're like doing an older call." And
- 40:59then they're like, "But I can't speak
- 41:00about Jesus. I'll give me a break. Grow
- 41:02up." Use the same mouth that you just
- 41:04said. Excuse me. Double shot latte. And
- 41:07Jesus loves you. God has a great plan
- 41:09for your life. He died on the cross for
- 41:11you. But the fear of man will keep you
- 41:14bound. It'll keep you bound. You won't
- 41:16tell the truth. So I was in that fast
- 41:19and I read that scripture and I was
- 41:20like, "God, this is me. I have
- 41:23manipulated myself and I've changed who
- 41:25you made and I don't tell the truth as
- 41:27much and I know I don't and I'm trying
- 41:29to fit in all the time and I know that
- 41:31people's thoughts are always in my head.
- 41:32I check the the comments on Facebook all
- 41:34the time." And I said, "And I know I
- 41:36have a problem." And I said, "Now
- 41:37deliver me." And the Lord began to I
- 41:40mean he began to deliver me so
- 41:41thoroughly that I remember getting on
- 41:43planes and I got like cuz I started
- 41:45traveling I got this you know statuses
- 41:46and stuff which is cool and I get like a
- 41:48business class upgrade. I remember one
- 41:49time like my first or third time or
- 41:51something in business class and the seat
- 41:53goes all the way down like I'm not not
- 41:54to make you jealous but it does it goes
- 41:56all the way down. And so and I was down
- 41:57at it flatbed, you know, and the lady
- 41:59who sat next to me, her whole like pants
- 42:02looked like it was worth more than like
- 42:04my car and my everything. Like she was
- 42:06like very wealthy. And halfway through
- 42:08the flight, the Holy Spirit says to me,
- 42:10"Well, stand up on this plane and preach
- 42:11the gospel." And I'm like I'm like,
- 42:14"What do you mean?" Yeah. He said,
- 42:16"Stand up here." And I was like, "In
- 42:18business class. I'm in business class.
- 42:20God, I mean I'm in with the rich
- 42:22people." and and and I was terrified and
- 42:24the whole flight like I couldn't have it
- 42:26was the worst flight ever. I had no
- 42:27peace the whole time. It was like
- 42:28terrible. And I said, "God, please just
- 42:30let me do it at the end of the flight.
- 42:32That way like it's just not awkward when
- 42:33I sit back down next to the mega rich
- 42:35lady and I climb over a, you know, and
- 42:38so God was merciful. He let me go to the
- 42:40end of the flight and then the thing
- 42:41happens, you know, the seat belts come
- 42:42off and then I'm like, "Oh my goodness."
- 42:44And my heart was just jumping and I was
- 42:46like this. I was like,
- 42:48"Hello, hello business class people.
- 42:51What an amazing flight that was. And uh
- 42:54and I started just to to I was like um
- 42:57this is going to sound weird. And then
- 42:58all of a sudden God took over me. And I
- 43:00said, "Some of you are storing up
- 43:02treasures on earth, but there's
- 43:04emptiness in your heart. Do you realize
- 43:06you're made for more than emptiness?"
- 43:07And I said, "Some of you, you know, all
- 43:09that you're working for is just going to
- 43:10be left to a 2-in signature at the
- 43:12bottom of a will. But God thinks you're
- 43:15worth more." I said, "Jesus thinks
- 43:16you're worth dying for. God cares about
- 43:18you. He has a plan for your life." and
- 43:19and all of a sudden I feel like and then
- 43:21I just stopped and then the boldness
- 43:23kind of fell off or something and then
- 43:24they're just looking at me and I'm like
- 43:26oh I didn't know what to do and so I was
- 43:28just like and I looked at the lady open
- 43:29the door open the door now you know the
- 43:31lady and yeah and and God was stretching
- 43:35my
- 43:36boldness and then another time I was
- 43:39here in America flying to Washington you
- 43:40know where the government is the
- 43:41Washington place and I was flying and I
- 43:44was in the plane and the Lord said stand
- 43:46up in the plane and sing a worship song
- 43:49to me and he put the song in first. No,
- 43:51sorry. It happened like this first. I
- 43:53was half asleep and I heard that song,
- 43:55that old hymn, you know. Okay, good.
- 43:57She's getting delivered. Praise the
- 43:58Lord. Um, that's just wait 5 minutes.
- 44:00You got five more minutes left to say
- 44:01goodbye to the spirit of fear. You have
- 44:03a have a good 5
- 44:04minutes. So, God put this song, this old
- 44:08hymn. He said like it was like how great
- 44:10is our God or something. And I was like,
- 44:11wow, I love that hymn. I missed that
- 44:12hymn. And then he said stand up and sing
- 44:14it. I'm like that's not the Lord. No
- 44:16way. That's not the Lord. The Lord knows
- 44:17my voice. And anyway, as the plane is
- 44:20landing again, he said, "You are going
- 44:22to sing it, son." I'm like, "God, why
- 44:24would I sing a song at Washington? Why
- 44:26would I do that? I'll get on the CIA
- 44:28list." And I and he said, "No." He said,
- 44:30"Son, sing it. Please sing it for me."
- 44:32And I was like, I said, "Hello." And I
- 44:34use this excuse sometimes. I go, "I'm
- 44:36from Australia." In other words, in
- 44:38other words, I'm doing something stupid
- 44:40and that's where I'm coming from. And so
- 44:43I started saying, you know, I just want
- 44:45to sing something to you. You should
- 44:46have seen the people looking at me like,
- 44:48"Okay, fruitc cake sing." And I was like
- 44:51this. Um, I'm a Christian and I kid you
- 44:54not, this is how it came out. You can
- 44:55watch the video in heaven. It came out
- 44:56like this. Uh, and all will see how
- 45:00great. And the people were looking at me
- 45:02like this, like shut up. You know, and
- 45:05the stewardess lady, I think she was
- 45:07like, man, this we have to help this
- 45:08guy. He's probably mentally not the
- 45:10best. And I was like, oh, we'll see how
- 45:14great. And then, but their faces were
- 45:15too much me. So I started to look up,
- 45:17how great is our God. And then I opened
- 45:21my eyes and I saw two women on both
- 45:23sides of the aisle
- 45:24crying, both of them. And then I turned
- 45:27and then and then at the very end of it,
- 45:28how great is our God? I said that that's
- 45:31the end. And then the whole plane
- 45:32started cheering and I was like, my
- 45:35goodness, I should have taken up an
- 45:36offering, but they're all cheering. I
- 45:38turn around from the plane and I was and
- 45:42I told the students again and I
- 45:43literally ran. And you know that thing,
- 45:45the concourse, I ran out of it, but God
- 45:47said to me, I said later, "Why did you
- 45:49do that to me?" I said, "Why?" I said,
- 45:51"This is a little too much now. I really
- 45:53am trying to be fear free." And I said,
- 45:55"But I don't want to do this anymore.
- 45:56Can't we just make an agreement? I am
- 45:57fear
- 45:59free. I don't want to do it." And the
- 46:02Lord said to me, "Son, you didn't do
- 46:04that for you. Your freedom, your fear,
- 46:06it's not about you. Yours isn't either.
- 46:09The gospel isn't about just me. It's not
- 46:11about little Ben's comfort zone. I can't
- 46:13live in the air or in the corner of my
- 46:15life and just go, I just want to be a
- 46:16comfortable Christian. Yeah, you can be
- 46:17comfortable, but you won't change
- 46:19history. And so he said to me, I said,
- 46:21why did you have me sing that old song?
- 46:22He said, there were women and men who
- 46:24went to Sunday school as children who
- 46:26sung that song to me as children. And he
- 46:28said, I wanted you to remind them of
- 46:29what they tasted in Sunday school. Now,
- 46:32God's wisdom is higher than
- 46:35ours. So, I'm about to pray for you in
- 46:37just a second. And the Lord began to
- 46:40really challenge me and make me fear
- 46:41free to the point where I said yesterday
- 46:43where I got invited to speak to two
- 46:44European presidents. And before I went
- 46:46to speak to them, guess what I did? I
- 46:48went there and dressed up in a suit and
- 46:50told them all about my flashy ministry.
- 46:51No, I sat in front of God and said, "Use
- 46:54me. Speak through me whatever you want,
- 46:56no matter how harsh, no matter how
- 46:58clear." So I wrote down all these
- 47:00things. I sat with this president three
- 47:02uh in March. And this president ended up
- 47:04balling in the chancellory office
- 47:06balling because they said, "You could
- 47:09never have known what you told me
- 47:10there." And I said, "Right, but God knew
- 47:12it." But God had shown me if I wasn't
- 47:14fearfree, I would have been corrupted.
- 47:16You see, I would have pulled that
- 47:17influence to myself, done a nice little
- 47:19Instagram. You notice it's not on my
- 47:20Instagram because it wasn't about Ben
- 47:23Fitzgerald. It wasn't about my fear of
- 47:24man. It was about Jesus being his
- 47:26kingdom extending. And that's the the
- 47:29same with you guys. like what's
- 47:30happening in your heart with everyone's
- 47:31opinions and everyone's thoughts or
- 47:32you're in a home group. You lead a home
- 47:34group and you want to step out in prayer
- 47:35and pray for deliverance, but you can't
- 47:37cuz you're afraid if you say, "I think
- 47:38it could be demonic. That person will be
- 47:40massively offended." Yeah, maybe they
- 47:43will be offended, but they'll be
- 47:44offended into freedom. You need to
- 47:46understand the kingdom doesn't move with
- 47:48fear. The kingdom is crippled with fear.
- 47:51And I want to tell you and show you
- 47:52before we pray. Put your hand up if this
- 47:55message is speaking to you. Watch how
- 47:56many hands. Look, look around. Look at
- 47:58that. Put your hand up the other hand if
- 48:00this message is relates to you. If it
- 48:02relates to you. Okay, now you have both
- 48:04hands up now. Surrender die. All right.
- 48:07But see how many of you get plagued with
- 48:09these kind of thoughts. Wouldn't it be
- 48:11amazing if you started to jump out of
- 48:12that into the freedom of God? All right.
- 48:15Now, I'm going to go after deliverance.
- 48:16Okay. Now, I want to qualify what
- 48:18happens here cuz I cried out to God and
- 48:20the scriptures say very clearly, God has
- 48:21not given you a
- 48:23What is it? A
- 48:25No, no, you went to the next verse. I
- 48:27said, what is it? A it's a spirit. So
- 48:30demons of fear the house of God.
- 48:32Spirits of rejections you. You
- 48:34might have had one for 20 years. Get rid
- 48:36of it today. Have the divorce party with
- 48:38it. You don't need it. You're not
- 48:40rejected. You've made being accepted in
- 48:42the beloved. You are God's special part
- 48:44of the diamond of Jesus the way he
- 48:46manifests himself. You don't need to
- 48:47start acting like everybody else.
- 48:49Listen, if two of you become identical
- 48:51in this world, one of you is unnecessary
- 48:53here. Randy Clark is necessary, but so
- 48:56am I. I look at Ry's gifts now and I'm
- 48:58like, "Praise the Lord that God made
- 49:00Randy Randy and praise God, he made me
- 49:01me." What's happening here? Okay.
- 49:03Obviously, the older call happened
- 49:05without me knowing it. Praise the Lord.
- 49:07All right. Good. I'm glad you are ready
- 49:09to be You realize what you're answering
- 49:11though. It's You're not answering like
- 49:12one of these kind of like I can feel the
- 49:14tender reign of the Lord. Answer older
- 49:16calls. This is going to be a bit more
- 49:17like You realize that? Okay. You're
- 49:20good. All right. All right. All right.
- 49:23Okay. All right.
- 49:26Wow. All
- 49:29righty. It's a lot of people.
- 49:33You're going to get free. You realize
- 49:34that, right? Okay. Now, here's the
- 49:37thing. If you want to see if a Christian
- 49:39can have a demon or not, and you don't
- 49:40believe it or you do believe it,
- 49:41whatever. There's books on that. You can
- 49:42read them. I actually think Rodney Hog
- 49:44has a great book about deliverance. Be
- 49:46really cool to if you can get some more
- 49:48of that. I call them, let's say, like
- 49:50this, Cllingons. I had a spirit in my
- 49:53soul. Not in my spirit. Not in my born
- 49:55again nature, but in my soul. And we're
- 49:57a three-part person. We have a body. We
- 49:59have a soul. We have a spirit. And I had
- 50:01let demons of fear in. So, are you ready
- 50:04to let them out? Now, what will happen
- 50:07when I pray? I can promise you it will
- 50:09be strong and violent. God gave me God
- 50:11gave me a unique I'm not talking about
- 50:13me, but he gave me a faith that when I
- 50:15pray a bit like this dude called Carlos
- 50:16Anaconia, I believe they'll just come
- 50:18out. But here's my preparation for you.
- 50:20People do this sometimes. They go and
- 50:23they're like this. They're basically
- 50:25operating in the fear of man while
- 50:26they're being delivered of the fear of
- 50:27man. They're like, "Ah, yeah, that's
- 50:29out. I think it's out." Yeah. Let go.
- 50:32Cut ties with it. Repent of it. Get rid
- 50:36of it. And let the Lord deliver you now.
- 50:38And for those of you who are like, "Wa,
- 50:40this is full on. It's a lot of
- 50:41deliverance." Rejoice in it. Go. Praise
- 50:43the Lord. We're kicking these demons out
- 50:44of the room. This afternoon and tonight
- 50:47will be a much better service. Less
- 50:49demons, more
- 50:51heaven. Okay, close your eyes. Close
- 50:54your eyes. Are you ready? There's people
- 50:55all the way at the back. Close your
- 50:57eyes. Pray this with me. Say, "Dear Lord
- 51:00Jesus, Dear Lord Jesus, I repent. I
- 51:03repent. And I cut my ties. I cut my
- 51:06ties. With the demon spirits of fear,
- 51:08with demon spirits of fear, with soulish
- 51:11fear of man, soulish spirit of man. And
- 51:13with demonic powers of rejection, and
- 51:15with demonic powers of rejection, I
- 51:17renounce the fear of man. I renounce
- 51:19fear. And I command any hidden spirit
- 51:23manipulation of my identity manipulation
- 51:25of my identity. Any way that I have
- 51:27changed
- 51:29to be restored to be restored and be
- 51:32delivered be delivered. Okay, I'm going
- 51:34to pray for you now. Let go. In the name
- 51:36of Jesus Christ, I command every hidden
- 51:39spirit in this room, get out now.
- 51:41Spirits of fear, get out of their life
- 51:43now. I said leave. You have no authority
- 51:45to be here. Get out of this room now in
- 51:49Jesus' name. I said leave him.
- 51:53Leave. Get out right now in the
- 51:55authority of the name of Jesus. I
- 51:58command hidden spirits of fear to
- 52:01leave. All these manipulative controls,
- 52:04get out of their life in Jesus name. Get
- 52:08out of their life in Jesus name.
- 52:11Thank you, Father. Okay, let go, guys.
- 52:14Let go. And some of you, it's a demon.
- 52:15Others of you, it's just a mindset. Not
- 52:17everything's a demon. But let go. I'm
- 52:20going to come over
- 52:21here. I say it again in the authority of
- 52:24the name of Jesus. I command you, evil
- 52:26spirit, get out of that girl's life now.
- 52:29Get out of these people's lives now. I
- 52:32said leave. Leave them. Leave in Jesus
- 52:35name. Yes. Thank you, Father. Thank you,
- 52:39sweet
- 52:41Jesus. Thank you,
- 52:43Lord. It's going to leave you. Don't
- 52:46worry. Get out of this young man. I said
- 52:48leave him in Jesus name now. Thank you,
- 52:54Lord. I command every spirit that has
- 52:56manipulated your identity to get out
- 52:58now. Every demon spirit of fear, every
- 53:01control, everything that's locked you up
- 53:03inside, get out of their life and get
- 53:05out of their mind now in Jesus name.
- 53:08Thank you,
- 53:09Lord. Some of you are still afraid. I
- 53:11feel that you're still a bit like, "It's
- 53:12quiet in here." And music will help you
- 53:14be delivered. It won't help you. It's
- 53:16just a stronghold of fear in your
- 53:17thoughts. Let go. Let
- 53:22go in the authority of Jesus' name. Get
- 53:26out all across this room, even up the
- 53:28back right now. Get out of their lives
- 53:30in Jesus mighty name.
- 53:35Yes.
- 53:37Yes.
- 53:39Jesus.
- 53:40Yes. Jesus. Keep going. I'm very
- 53:43submitted to I'm very submitted to Dr.
- 53:46Randy. If he tells me to stop, I'll stop
- 53:48straight away. I I have no problem with
- 53:49the time things to stop. But you tell
- 53:51me, Dr. Randy. You You tell me. Thank
- 53:53you,
- 53:54Lord. Okay, I want to pray it one more
- 53:56time. I feel there's a few in the aisles
- 53:58that you're really you feel that
- 54:00oppression daily. You hear a voice in
- 54:01your head, but you're still scared right
- 54:03now. Just say, "I'm done with you."
- 54:05Spirit of fear, get out of my life now.
- 54:09All up the aisles, Holy Spirit, would
- 54:11you deliver them now? In the name of
- 54:13Jesus, I command every demon of fear
- 54:15hidden. Get out of this
- 54:17room. Leave. Leave that Asian man right
- 54:21up there. Get out of him.
- 54:25[Music]
- 54:40This is good. You know why it's good?
- 54:41It's less than usual. When I do it,
- 54:43usually it's like 200 people scream.
- 54:45That means global awakening is a healthy
- 54:48ministry. It means we've already had a
- 54:50lot of this crap kicked
- 54:52out. But still, we ask God to restore us
- 54:56from the mindset. Get rid of the
- 54:58mindset.
- 54:59[Applause]
- 55:05That's
- 55:06right. That's right. You're
- 55:09free. You are
- 55:11free. You are free. Do you realize
- 55:16that? You are free to make noise for
- 55:18your king. You are free to preach the
- 55:21gospel.
- 55:25[Music]
- 55:28Come
- 55:30on, you can stand on your chair. You are
- 55:33free. Your voice is being
- 55:40[Music]
- 55:46restored. Now, let's see if you're free
- 55:48without music.
- 55:56Come on. Jesus has delivered you from
- 55:59fear. We are anchored on the Messiah's
- 56:02identity.
- 56:10[Applause]
- 56:17[Music]
- 56:19[Applause]
- 56:20Some of you introverts, you need to
- 56:21stand on your chair and just shout the
- 56:23name Jesus. cuz you're afraid. You've
- 56:25been living in
- 56:29fear. Come
- 56:31on. Come
- 56:33on. He is the King of Kings, Lord of
- 56:48Lords.
- 57:00Heat. Heat.
- 57:05[Music]
- 57:06[Applause]
- 57:10[Music]
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