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- 0:00Happy Wednesday to you. We have a ton
- 0:02of interesting things today. We have a
- 0:03pack of news about Tesla. They are
- 0:05pulling some stunts with Tesla again.
- 0:06In the previous news episode, we didn't
- 0:08have time to discuss the slew of
- 0:10Toyotas shown at the Japan Mobility
- 0:11Show. Hi.
- 0:25Most importantly, did they send you the
- 0:27estimate for the Alfa?
- 0:28No, not yet. Right now they’re just
- 0:31inventing numbers, like, they don't
- 0:33know such numbers exist. How much will
- 0:35it cost?
- 0:36No, you just gifted me the suspension.
- 0:39I know, I already have a bit of a story
- 0:40that happened to me just over this past
- 0:42week. The previous service center
- 0:45refunded me for the parts I had paid
- 0:47for and ordered from them. And so, it
- 0:50turns out, I have an invoice for only
- 0:52a work order.
- 0:53Work order. Sorry.
- 0:55It doesn't matter. Yeah, maybe it's an
- 0:56invoice in the Alfa club. I don't
- 0:59So, for replacing the third brake light
- 1:01bulb, replacing the license plate bulb,
- 1:03replacing the rear brake discs and pads
- 1:06, replacing the parking brake cable,
- 1:08wheel alignment, tire service, whatever
- 1:10it's called, and replacing some other
- 1:12fluids. Also included are brake fluid,
- 1:15Brembo, all of it is Brembo. Bremba,
- 1:17brem. Totaling 55,440.
- 1:19Oh, wow, that's really cheap. Are you
- 1:22kidding? This is,
- 1:23well, this is without the suspension.
- 1:25Basically, what I have going on, for
- 1:27the major work, is brake repair,
- 1:29replacement of rear brake discs,
- 1:31calipers, pads, and a full tire service
- 1:33with alignment. You
- 1:35have no idea how lightly you got off. A
- 1:38bullet just flew right past you here.
- 1:40Like, I don't know if the Razgon
- 1:41episode has been released yet or not by
- 1:43now. But in our current pool, the
- 1:45pre-New Year one, we shot a video there
- 1:47about the worst car. I can probably
- 1:49spoil that for Dorokh, naturally, it's
- 1:51the Evik. Uh-huh.
- 1:53An estimate and an amazing person, whom
- 1:55, well, I tell him to his face: "Denis,
- 1:57have you got AutoPragmat? We are ready
- 2:01for you, like, personally for you, to
- 2:02solve issues, there are times, you know
- 2:04, for super important people, or
- 2:06someone else, like, say, Konstantin
- 2:07Sergeyevich calls us and says he needs
- 2:09a Bentley to put on tracks." We’re
- 2:11like: "Alright." And we handle those
- 2:13tasks too. Well, that we will find and
- 2:14select absolutely anything for you. If
- 2:15you ever want to buy a car, just call,
- 2:17well, at least ask me for advice,
- 2:18forget about AutoPragmat. Just write to
- 2:20me, and we’ll come up with something
- 2:22for you. Something just snapped in him.
- 2:24He just saw an ad, looked at a photo,
- 2:26and bought some car in another city
- 2:29without even seeing it. What he got was
- 2:32a total wreck; it’s hard to imagine a
- 2:34worse car in general.
- 2:35Well, you told us he already spent so
- 2:37much he could have just bought one in
- 2:39perfect condition.
- 2:40Not just bought one in perfect
- 2:42condition—he could have bought a
- 2:43perfect one and had a huge, fancy
- 2:45celebration in downtown Moscow with a
- 2:47crowd. I lied a little. I forgot that
- 2:50the price tag didn’t include the
- 2:52parts I had already paid for. So, I
- 2:54need to add about 25,000 to that. I
- 2:57mean, out of this
- 2:58when you buy a car sight unseen, yes,
- 3:01God knows where, and it just shows up,
- 3:03that's how shipping works. But when you
- 3:07do it domestically, when you buy a rare
- 3:10car and just hope that everything is
- 3:12fine over the phone, it’s such a
- 3:14lottery.
- 3:16You can get stuck with such insane
- 3:18costs. A couple of episodes ago, we
- 3:21said I allegedly bought it at the
- 3:22bottom of the market, but there is no
- 3:23market, and I took the second car from
- 3:25the top, it was higher than
- 3:27there were just two of them.
- 3:28There are only five,
- 3:29like, one at the top, the other at the
- 3:30bottom. That’s it. That’s the whole
- 3:32Miata orgy. Here in Russia
- 3:34there were only five of them. So I took
- 3:36the second one from the top. There’s
- 3:38a 400,000 difference between
- 3:39the first and the second. But
- 3:41nevertheless.
- 3:42No, you can really get screwed here.
- 3:45It’s very unpleasant. Very unpleasant
- 3:46. That’s why you got off very lightly
- 3:48.
- 3:48But my engine costs 100,000. Your
- 3:50battery costs 100,000. And my engine
- 3:52costs 100,000.
- 3:53My battery costs a lot more. First of
- 3:56all,
- 3:57sucked it up, messed up, moved on.
- 3:59No, I mean, it’s painfully sad. Yeah,
- 4:01for the Porsh
- 4:02it was something like 400 you said,
- 4:03right?
- 4:04That’s for a 911, a 992, for a 718 I
- 4:06don’t know how much it costs. It’s
- 4:08a regular one, not a lithium-ion one,
- 4:09so it’s probably more expensive than
- 4:11a hundred grand original now in current
- 4:12conditions. But compared to lithium-ion
- 4:14batteries, it’s not expensive.
- 4:16Lithium-ion batteries used in modern
- 4:19cars can cost up to 700,000.
- 4:23Well, in 1,000 km, my car hits 200,000
- 4:25on the body, electronics, and
- 4:27everything else. So for that date, for
- 4:29that mileage, I gifted it original
- 4:32Recaro seats.
- 4:34True, not from that car, but what of it
- 4:35? Why not?
- 4:37Yeah
- 4:38You are too, in general. Well, you're
- 4:39yellow. Yellow, so overall it's very
- 4:42similar to the Megane R.S. I thought it
- 4:44would fit in just fine. Why not?
- 4:47No, these are the same ones put on old
- 4:49Porsches, I don't remember which body.
- 4:51No, there’s a lot of Recaro. Where
- 4:53does it stitch it exactly, I think like
- 4:55a carbon bucket is the real deal.
- 4:57It’s really great.
- 4:58And you drove it a little bit, didn't
- 4:59you? Just a tiny bit, but I drove it.
- 5:01Well, it seemed okay.
- 5:02No, it's a good, cool, fun
- 5:03front-wheel-drive car. We were on the
- 5:06runway there, of course, there’s
- 5:07still work to be done to catch up with
- 5:09the Granta. We mentioned in the
- 5:13previous news segment that we filmed at
- 5:15the proving ground. A lot of
- 5:16interesting things happened there,
- 5:17including with the Lada Granta.
- 5:19So, should we talk about your video or
- 5:21not?
- 5:21He knows.
- 5:23I mean, if you want, let's say it.
- 5:25What are you afraid of? Afraid that
- 5:26people are writing that you’re some
- 5:28kind of Stas's produced project or what
- 5:30?
- 5:30I am your produced project.
- 5:34You didn't know?
- 5:34If you guys don't know, Aksar posted a
- 5:36video, actually, with this Alfa. They
- 5:38filmed a review there. A produced
- 5:39project.
- 5:40Yeah.
- 5:41I am your project, from a voice in your
- 5:43head, I turned into a project. I told
- 5:45you, you should have just stood in the
- 5:47frame for 30 seconds, just said hello,
- 5:49like "hello," then said "I'm
- 5:51uncomfortable," walked behind the
- 5:52camera, and hosted the review from
- 5:54behind the lens. I mean, it was just
- 5:56hanging in the air. You just had to—
- 5:59well, honestly, I have to teach you
- 6:00everything.
- 6:03Didn't produce it, apparently.
- 6:04Apparently. Yes, even here in the
- 6:06produced project, I failed. With that,
- 6:09let's move on to the news. It feels
- 6:14like news these days just follows the
- 6:15format of "such and such concern
- 6:16decided to close production of such and
- 6:18such car." Oh, no, no, no, they didn't
- 6:19decide. There we go, resuming.
- 6:21Fine, since you want that kind of news,
- 6:24I've got some. GM will cut thousands of
- 6:26employees due to falling demand for
- 6:28electric cars. They have a huge factory
- 6:30, GM Factory ZERO, which they opened
- 6:32with fanfare, saying everything would
- 6:34be great. And we recently discussed
- 6:37with you that they started cutting
- 6:39their project in Canada with trucks. A
- 6:41project which bears the name BrightDrop
- 6:43. And simultaneously with that, they
- 6:45are also slowly starting to trim down
- 6:47Factory ZERO a little bit. Factory ZERO
- 6:50. That's the place where the electric
- 6:51Hummer and electric Cadillac are
- 6:52produced. And it somehow turns out, you
- 6:55know, that this whole modern Cadillac
- 6:58Escalade IQ only sold about 6,000 units
- 7:01in 2025. Well, with all the subsidies
- 7:04and the fact that it's a new car, with
- 7:06new tech, and how wonderful, cool, and
- 7:07amazing it's supposed to be. But they
- 7:10sold 35,000 of those old, smelly,
- 7:12classic gasoline Escalades. Considering
- 7:15they're being banned, hit with extra
- 7:17duties, and gas is considered gross and
- 7:19can't be advertised. Ugh, nasty.
- 7:21Wait, where are they being banned? They
- 7:23aren't being banned in the US.
- 7:24You mean advertising, right?
- 7:25Yeah, California at most. They’re
- 7:27really strict on environmental stuff
- 7:28there. Well, and in all the states too,
- 7:31it seems, their main policy is that you
- 7:33can't just run an ad now saying, like,
- 7:36look at my awesome V8.
- 7:38Biden's policy was: "Increase the
- 7:40number of electric vehicles sold in the
- 7:42states."
- 7:42Yeah.
- 7:43Well, under Trump, I haven't officially
- 7:45heard that we're abandoning this policy
- 7:48, but there hasn't been any program to
- 7:50fight against internal combustion
- 7:52engine ads. In my experience, it’s
- 7:55all done sneakily, you know, as if
- 7:56there isn't even an official ban. But I
- 7:59haven't seen a single ad in the
- 8:00American or European market that says:
- 8:02look at our horsepower, our gasoline,
- 8:04our V8. Sometimes clips from oil
- 8:07companies slip through. We discussed in
- 8:10some news video that clip where they
- 8:12simulated the future, with everything
- 8:14on wires, where people were chained to
- 8:16electrical grids and so on. Some guy
- 8:19gets into a regular gasoline pickup and
- 8:21finds freedom, then drives away. Yeah,
- 8:23I saw it.
- 8:24Yes. Things like that happen. But for
- 8:27automakers to go around saying how
- 8:28great their combustion engines are?
- 8:31Well, Stellantis is turning around now,
- 8:33they launched that Ram with the new V8,
- 8:37right,
- 8:37and they’re gradually starting to say
- 8:39that we have a new gasoline engine. But
- 8:40you have to realize how much they hyped
- 8:43the public beforehand, saying here are
- 8:45our progressive cars, our EVs, our
- 8:47everything-plus-subsidies, and still
- 8:49the results are, well, mediocre, so
- 8:52they have to cut production jobs and
- 8:54shut down factories. And that's the
- 8:56news on this. Essentially, in all
- 8:58divisions that deal with anything
- 9:00electric inside GM, 3,600 employees—
- 9:02that's not everyone, of course. People
- 9:05are still there, it's just an
- 9:06optimization for now. But the process
- 9:07has begun, and we're waiting to see how
- 9:09things develop.
- 9:10Yes, it's worth noting that GM isn't
- 9:12actually abandoning all electric
- 9:13vehicles. They are just shifting
- 9:15priorities now and saying they will
- 9:16make budget-friendly EVs.
- 9:18And regular gasoline cars, maybe some
- 9:19hybrids too, somehow. We are now
- 9:21everything, everywhere. And I think, in
- 9:23the long run, absolutely all automakers
- 9:25will come out and say, well, we are
- 9:26going to produce everything now: this,
- 9:28that, the fifth, the tenth, the
- 9:30thirteenth, the eighteenth. Whatever
- 9:32you buy, that's what we'll produce.
- 9:33They did a flip-flop on gasoline. Yeah.
- 9:36What did they flip-flop on?
- 9:37Well, all of this.
- 9:38Ah, yes.
- 9:40Just a little bit back. Man, no,
- 9:42actually the most sound position for an
- 9:45automaker is to produce everything and
- 9:48then follow the demand. They are
- 9:50returning to such a reasonable strategy
- 9:52. Uh-huh. Interesting, any fresh new
- 9:55ideas?
- 9:56Listen, there's also the point that,
- 9:58given how much policy shifted in the
- 10:01States after Trump came in, it could
- 10:03happen that after Trump a Biden-type
- 10:05person comes in, roughly speaking, the
- 10:07Democrats, the Bidenites,
- 10:09right? Democrats.
- 10:11And then everyone's like, "Whoa, back
- 10:12to electric cars again."
- 10:14It’s not about politics, well, or
- 10:15rather, it’s not just about political
- 10:17statements. The most important thing is
- 10:19the budget. Subsidies, support, media
- 10:22coverage. Making extra money on this
- 10:26just isn't working anymore. That's it.
- 10:29You keep whistling, they don't have any
- 10:30more money.
- 10:33I was whistling at them for 10 years on
- 10:35purpose. Meanwhile, Toyota has unveiled
- 10:41a tiny construction truck that will be
- 10:43sold semi-disassembled. Why the hell
- 10:45should we finish building it? A product
- 10:48that, well, we’ll just say it’ll
- 10:50look something like this. You guys
- 10:52finish putting it together yourselves.
- 10:53Here’s an IKEA-style blueprint for
- 10:54you. Here’s one wrench for you. Go
- 10:56ahead and screw something on, said
- 10:59the guys. So, it's a DIY project then?
- 11:00Look,
- 11:02officially, Toyota is legalizing all
- 11:04these things. But in reality, guys,
- 11:06they are showing a very cool concept.
- 11:08That Japan Mobility Show happened, and
- 11:09there was a lot of interesting stuff
- 11:11there. And among other things, the guys
- 11:13showed this concept. It's not a
- 11:14production car yet, but what's the
- 11:16point? Some time ago, they showed the
- 11:18Hilux Champ concept. It’s this kind
- 11:22of small truck that’s supposed to be
- 11:23modular, where you initially buy the
- 11:25platform, and then depending on your
- 11:27needs, you either make a passenger
- 11:28version, or some cargo version, or you
- 11:30make a bigger one, a refrigerator, or
- 11:32something else. Because, well, in
- 11:35developing countries and countries with
- 11:37weaker economies, you constantly need
- 11:38workhorses, and they have their own
- 11:40specific tasks, and it's very difficult
- 11:42to make a car that is absolutely
- 11:43universal for everyone. So you create a
- 11:45sort of platform, and then you guys can
- 11:46have fun with it however you want. At
- 11:48first, the whole press thought, as soon
- 11:50as they showed this concept, that it
- 11:51was some kind of, well, they had
- 11:52fantasized a bit too much and nothing
- 11:54like this would ever reach production.
- 11:56Well, these trucks have been in
- 11:57production for a few years now, they're
- 11:59in demand, and now Toyota is going
- 12:00further. They are showing this thing
- 12:02and saying, look, this is a small truck
- 12:04for really poor countries. Purely to
- 12:07save on costs, we will sell it
- 12:09semi-disassembled, so that people
- 12:10somewhere out there in Africa, when
- 12:12they get this car, can also start
- 12:13customizing and finishing it for their
- 12:15own specific needs. And in this way,
- 12:17you can create jobs there if the demand
- 12:19for this equipment is high enough. Plus
- 12:21, make some kind of universal thing for
- 12:23doing some small jobs, hauling things
- 12:25here and there, driving across a field,
- 12:27bringing water, which is a rarity in
- 12:29Africa. And
- 12:32sorry,
- 12:33let me just rant.
- 12:34But that’s the point. You need to
- 12:36make some kind of ultra-budget,
- 12:38maximally practical, modular piece of
- 12:40junk that you can then adapt on the
- 12:42spot for your own needs. And so the
- 12:44guys are just showing such a concept.
- 12:46It’s not entirely clear if it’s an
- 12:48electric vehicle or internal combustion
- 12:50, because for now we just have a
- 12:51drawing of the key, and it’s highly
- 12:53likely it should have some simple
- 12:54engine, because an electric one will
- 12:56most likely be expensive. Plus,
- 12:57there’s nowhere to charge it out in
- 12:59the middle of a field.
- 13:00It’s unclear what kind of motor is
- 13:01here, because it doesn’t look like
- 13:02there’s an internal combustion engine
- 13:04with a radiator. But on the other hand,
- 13:05it’s a concept.
- 13:06On the other hand, a concept. Well,
- 13:08look, if an internal combustion engine
- 13:10is intended here, it still needs to be
- 13:12designed into the layout somehow.
- 13:15Well, if it’s some small
- 13:16single-cylinder or two-cylinder motor
- 13:18that could be placed like in a Buchanka
- 13:20van, right here by the driver, then
- 13:21there could quite possibly be room for
- 13:23it.
- 13:24And if the concept is such that it must
- 13:27be as cheap as possible and easy to
- 13:29assemble by hand,
- 13:30is that a hole for your feet or what?
- 13:31What? No, I don't mean it’s
- 13:34pedal-powered
- 13:35or bolting it on directly like this.
- 13:38And once again, Toyota has made a car
- 13:40for the white man, to be hauled by
- 13:41Negroes.
- 13:43The most important thing is that
- 13:44there’s a mount for a machine gun.
- 13:46Never mind the engine.
- 13:48No, what I mean is, if this concept is
- 13:49designed so that a person can assemble
- 13:51it somewhere in another country, far,
- 13:53far away, on their own, then the
- 13:55radiator could just sit in front
- 13:56without a grille, and the engine could
- 13:58be bolted on externally, well, with its
- 14:00outer part, so to speak. What about the
- 14:03gearbox?
- 14:03What if there’s
- 14:04you need some kind of adapter, you
- 14:06can't just bolt an engine to any
- 14:07gearbox. You have a pair, engine and
- 14:09gearbox.
- 14:09I understand, but it will be
- 14:11or from a Prado, or something, or from
- 14:13No, but this isn't just a cart, it's
- 14:15designed, obviously. The main thing is
- 14:17that they are showing the idea here,
- 14:19that we are also thinking about making
- 14:22an even simpler thing, even smaller,
- 14:24also modular. And I think that just
- 14:27like they tested with the Daihatsu
- 14:29Copen, where they showed a concept that
- 14:30didn't fit the Kei car regulations,
- 14:32gathered feedback, and then said, "Here
- 14:34, have a new Kei car." It's the same
- 14:36thing here. I think they aren't just
- 14:38measuring, well, now they will be
- 14:39measuring, or rather, some activity,
- 14:41potential orders, something, some of
- 14:43their marketing metrics, and then they
- 14:45will decide whether to develop it
- 14:46further or not. In general, does the
- 14:48market like this idea or not, are there
- 14:50requests or not? Well, it's just, well,
- 14:52maybe I don't understand, but surely
- 14:55developing and releasing something like
- 14:57this is much cheaper than building some
- 15:00new SUV or truck.
- 15:01Not necessarily. Not a fact at all. On
- 15:03the contrary, you,
- 15:05well, look, I apologize for
- 15:07interrupting, but here, I assume, the
- 15:09safety standards and everything else
- 15:12are likely very different from the
- 15:14requirements for cars that,
- 15:16of course,
- 15:17so it will likely be classified more
- 15:19like a tractor.
- 15:21The question of developing a car is
- 15:23twofold. On one hand, you have a budget
- 15:27allocated by the automaker to an
- 15:28engineering group, saying we have a
- 15:30department working on such-and-such
- 15:31project, and you are developing, say, a
- 15:33Lada Vesta, or something,
- 15:35let's use a better example.
- 15:37More precisely,
- 15:41a bigger example, yes. Let's say you're
- 15:44developing a Renault Logan, there’s a
- 15:46department of engineers, designers,
- 15:47someone, and they have a task, and you
- 15:49don't even know you're developing a
- 15:51Renault Logan. The automaker, the
- 15:53company management, comes to you and
- 15:55says we need a budget car for 10,000
- 15:56dollars, so that the final price ends
- 15:58up being 10,000 dollars. We calculated
- 16:00in our production model, if the final
- 16:02car is to cost $ 10,000, we have a
- 16:04certain internal budget for development
- 16:07. And you need the engineers to develop
- 16:10a finished car, but stay within that
- 16:13budget. That’s one side of it. On the
- 16:15other hand, besides the design of the
- 16:17car itself, you need to figure out
- 16:19which parts to use, what methods to use
- 16:21, and where to manufacture it. And if
- 16:24some specific parts don't exist yet,
- 16:26you have to plan the production of
- 16:28those parts for this specific car, you
- 16:31know?
- 16:31Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 16:33And all of this together must fit into
- 16:35the budget possible at a potential
- 16:38sales volume of these cars per year.
- 16:41Therefore, you can't say that if a car
- 16:43has fewer parts, it's easier to develop
- 16:45than a car with more parts. Well, in
- 16:47that case, an off-roader. The question
- 16:49is always the budget that the company
- 16:50allocates to you—say, 10 million
- 16:52dollars—and you have to fit into that
- 16:53. The guys make the first sketches, and
- 16:57if those sketches match potential buyer
- 17:00interest, companies or dealers start
- 17:02appearing and demanding, saying, "Yeah,
- 17:05we need 1,000 of these here in Uganda."
- 17:08"We are ready to buy 1,000 units from
- 17:09you." And you're like, "Oh, okay,
- 17:11sounds good." Our theoretical business
- 17:13model starts to align with reality. It
- 17:15gradually, well, settles in somehow,
- 17:17and we can indeed allocate these funds.
- 17:19Or not? Or you just use these small
- 17:21experiments to test reality, realize
- 17:23there's no answer, no demand, and you
- 17:25kill the project at an early stage. Why
- 17:27did I bring up the Logan as an example?
- 17:30Because back in the day, the guys
- 17:32understood from the very beginning that
- 17:34if they released a car for under 10,000
- 17:37dollars—or maybe 5,000 or 8,000 euros
- 17:39, it was something like that. Uh, that
- 17:42exact budget. They knew for sure they
- 17:45could sell an unimaginable volume and
- 17:48recoup everything. But for the car to
- 17:50cost that much, you have to spend very
- 17:52little money on development and initial
- 17:54testing. Because you can spend a long,
- 17:57tedious time refining a car to
- 17:59perfection. But if you spend too much
- 18:01money on the development process, you
- 18:03simply won't earn it back later. You'll
- 18:05have too small a profit margin per
- 18:07individual car.
- 18:08I take it you also need to set aside a
- 18:09portion of the funds in case you end up
- 18:11having a recall campaign for some
- 18:12reason?
- 18:13Of course, you don’t need to account
- 18:15for it, but in any case, a recall
- 18:17campaign hits your budget hard. If your
- 18:18entire project ends up being
- 18:19unprofitable, then you’ve just been
- 18:21working for nothing.
- 18:22By the way, there’s an excellent
- 18:23counter-case that was less successful.
- 18:24A little car like this one. This is the
- 18:26Tata Nano. Back in the late 2000s, Tata
- 18:29decided that the Indian market would
- 18:31benefit from something. Well, there was
- 18:34a need for an ultra-cheap car, the
- 18:36cheapest one possible. They already had
- 18:38four-meter-long cars. But what if they
- 18:40made something to replace the local
- 18:42scooters? So they built this thing with
- 18:44a motorcycle engine. The cheapest
- 18:46version cost about 250,000–300,000
- 18:48rubles. There. A little car like that.
- 18:50They produced about 200,000-plus of
- 18:52them. It failed by Tata's standards
- 18:55because Indians much preferred buying
- 18:57more accessible scooters. That’s how
- 19:00it turned out. For the money they could
- 19:01have spent on the car, they just bought
- 19:03cool motorcycles instead. I know that
- 19:05case too, yes. And in the case of Tata,
- 19:07they missed the audience's expectations
- 19:09; they did poor preparatory work to
- 19:11understand if people would actually buy
- 19:13it or not. With the Logan, it worked
- 19:15out; with this thing, it didn't work
- 19:17out. I think it’s the same thing here
- 19:19. The guys are just testing; they’re
- 19:21just throwing an idea into the market,
- 19:22like "look, we're thinking about this,"
- 19:23and they’ll measure the effect later.
- 19:27But potentially it’s a very cool
- 19:29thing, because again, Toyota has
- 19:30consistently pursued what the market
- 19:32theoretically needs in large volumes
- 19:34for many years. They are huge pros,
- 19:38they don't forget that there's not only
- 19:41London and Munich, and New York and
- 19:43California, but that there are a huge
- 19:45number of people all over the planet
- 19:47who just need a normal, simple, most
- 19:49budget-friendly car to perform their
- 19:51harsh tasks in very harsh conditions.
- 19:54And they are trying to fully push in
- 19:56there, hit, capture the audience, and
- 19:58capture the market there. They are
- 20:00doing a great job. No one will ever
- 20:01catch up to them.
- 20:02Say they're doing a great job one more
- 20:04time.
- 20:04Toyota is doing a great job.
- 20:05Oh, how nice. Second episode. Yeah,
- 20:07really.
- 20:08Volkswagen. That’s it.
- 20:10Oh, how nice.
- 20:13So where’s the contradiction? Why did
- 20:14you suddenly start feeling good about
- 20:16it? I’ve been saying the same thing
- 20:17for 3 years now. How?
- 20:18No, it's just that when you repeat it,
- 20:19it’s even......music to my ears.
- 20:22It's like telling a girl she's
- 20:24beautiful.
- 20:25The Telegram channel started with that
- 20:27video once, where you say that Toyota
- 20:28is the best car on the planet. Yes, yes
- 20:30, yes. When we made a bet, you lost,
- 20:32and you said that Toyota is the best
- 20:34car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, that
- 20:36happened, it happened. But I wasn't
- 20:38against that statement from the
- 20:39beginning.
- 20:40Whoops.
- 20:40Not the best car, the best company. The
- 20:43car is under question, a very big one.
- 20:45Well yeah, but in the video itself you
- 20:47played it so you’d say they’re the
- 20:48best cars on the planet.
- 20:49Yes. Yeah. Well, for us, it's
- 20:51entertainment in general. Doro goes
- 20:52around saying they're the best cars on
- 20:54the planet. It’s just local
- 20:56entertainment for fools, damn it. Tesla
- 20:59ended up in the center of a scandal due
- 21:01to autopilot issues. They don't have
- 21:03any issues with the autopilot. What's
- 21:04the catch? They quietly, little by
- 21:07little, went and brought back the Mad
- 21:09Max mode in the car. Before that, some
- 21:13time ago, as soon as FSD started
- 21:14appearing, they came up with the idea
- 21:16that their autopilot could drive the
- 21:17car in different modes. And, well, like
- 21:21, you can drive just like a grandpa, or
- 21:23you can drive like Mad Max.
- 21:25Uh-huh.
- 21:26Just like a fool. Well, Mad Max. Have
- 21:28you seen the movie? There.
- 21:29Searching for gasoline,
- 21:30yeah. There. What unsuccessful searches
- 21:36they will have in the end. Naturally,
- 21:39at some point there was a big outcry
- 21:41that, how can it be, the autopilot
- 21:42starts driving the car too aggressively
- 21:44, the company removed it, but now with
- 21:45the latest updates it has appeared on
- 21:47cars again. And you can turn on Mad Max
- 21:49mode, and the car will go faster.
- 21:52Sometimes even ignoring traffic rules,
- 21:54ignoring red traffic lights, just
- 21:56starting off, and on autopilot too. It
- 21:59really runs red lights.
- 22:01Yes, it just blows them off and drives
- 22:03however it sees fit. Well
- 22:04it sees what’s on the left and right,
- 22:05right? No, the car sees green.
- 22:07What do you mean it sees? Well
- 22:08like this. And besides, well, naturally
- 22:10, complaints to the NHTSA started
- 22:11immediately. The NHTSA is like, "What
- 22:14on earth is happening?"
- 22:15I just saw a video where a Tesla cuts
- 22:17across a solid line to merge left to
- 22:20turn left. And most likely that wasn't
- 22:22this mode, but it was on autopilot, but
- 22:24to run a red light.
- 22:24Well, it can do that now. And it seems
- 22:27a scandal is starting. It seems the
- 22:29NHTSA is getting worked up about Tesla
- 22:31again. There haven't been any
- 22:32consequences or official comments yet.
- 22:34We are watching how events develop. But
- 22:36, of course, this is a very strange
- 22:38move and a strange PR stunt. Tesla has
- 22:41always been famous for its PR. We’ve
- 22:43been doing automotive news for, what, 6
- 22:45years now, give or take a kilometer.
- 22:47Tesla is always in the headlines,
- 22:49whether something is happening with
- 22:50them or not, they manage to regularly
- 22:52and constantly get into every possible
- 22:54headline. I suspect this is also just
- 22:56politics, so people don’t forget
- 22:57about them, keep talking, mentioning
- 22:59them, all that stuff. Well, damn, I
- 23:00think that’s crossing the line
- 23:01already.
- 23:02I don’t know. I think Nikita, our
- 23:04cameraman, set it up.
- 23:05Maybe, maybe, maybe.
- 23:07Well, the red light is too much. Like,
- 23:10extremely too much.
- 23:11Both the red light and speeding, and
- 23:13ignoring the road markings. Just like
- 23:14that. But in the mode where there’s a
- 23:16road, we just went for it.
- 23:17Well, they’ll definitely end up
- 23:18causing another accident eventually.
- 23:2014 accidents have already been provoked
- 23:22and 23 people have been injured. Well,
- 23:25at least our data shows that in "Mad
- 23:26Max" mode.
- 23:28But it’s not the person in the Tesla,
- 23:30so get lost.
- 23:32It’s safe. "We don’t feel sorry for
- 23:34Tesla drivers," the company replied.
- 23:35And that’s how it is. At the same
- 23:37time, a video blew up on the internet.
- 23:38Well, not blew up, someone was falling,
- 23:40and the video blew up. A Tesla barely
- 23:42dodged a crashing airplane. Fans think
- 23:44it was the autopilot’s doing, but
- 23:46what really happened? Here’s the
- 23:48video. A guy is just driving on the
- 23:49highway, minding his own business. Then
- 23:51suddenly a plane dives right in front
- 23:52of his nose. Something went wrong for
- 23:54the guys in the plane. Thankfully, they
- 23:56landed just fine. Two people are alive,
- 23:58everything is good. Nobody got hurt.
- 23:59Just like, "Wow,
- 24:00show us Axaro."
- 24:01Yeah, Aktar loves that stuff.
- 24:03That was me in the plane. I dove at the
- 24:07Tesla, but it swerved away. Oh, and the
- 24:11autopilot supposedly did that.
- 24:13And people in the comments started
- 24:15spreading that it was the autopilot,
- 24:16because there is no official info that
- 24:18the autopilot was actually on. On the
- 24:20contrary, the original videos even have
- 24:21info that the autopilot was off. And
- 24:23then, when the media got involved, they
- 24:25found the owner and asked, "So,
- 24:26what’s up with that?" He was like, "
- 24:28Well, I’m just driving."
- 24:29I was in flight school,
- 24:33turned, straightened out. I’ll be
- 24:37home on time.
- 24:42And that’s the pilot of the plane.
- 24:53Elon Musk will leave the company Tesla
- 24:55if he doesn't get 1 trillion dollars.
- 24:57Because you shouldn't be opening your
- 24:58mouth on the runway.
- 25:04Well, we opened the second one there.
- 25:06Well, we originally opened the first
- 25:07one there on the runway. This place is
- 25:09essentially the birthplace of the
- 25:11runway.
- 25:11It took off from there, brother, and
- 25:14now it’s landed back there again.
- 25:16Damn, that’s cool. You know,
- 25:17they’ll have a service like in GTA,
- 25:19driving under a plane at the airport,
- 25:22yeah, and then at some point they’ll
- 25:24just stand there, damn.
- 25:25we also bring in, like, we give you a
- 25:26little helicopter, and you go into the
- 25:27building with that helicopter there. No
- 25:29, no, you know when there's like an
- 25:31open house event, you do something like
- 25:33that, and there's a plane flying by
- 25:35with a huge advertising banner trailing
- 25:37behind it, just a plane flying by with
- 25:39"ratata" written on the banner. That
- 25:41would be cool.
- 25:42We'll think about it. I need, I really
- 25:44need to tell Tokha about this.
- 25:45Oh,
- 25:47maybe we could pull something like that
- 25:48off. So, Elon Musk will leave Tesla if
- 25:51he doesn't get 1 trillion dollars. This
- 25:54is not Musk's official stance. It was
- 25:57Robyn Denholm, the chair of Tesla's
- 25:59board, who sent a letter to
- 26:01shareholders, major investors, and so
- 26:03on, saying look, we talked about paying
- 26:06Elon 1 trillion dollars if we reach
- 26:08certain milestones. I know this is a
- 26:12sensitive issue and that we have to
- 26:14resolve it and approve this
- 26:15compensation package at the upcoming
- 26:17shareholder vote and all that. But in
- 26:21the current climate, right now, in
- 26:23these uncertain times, losing a genius,
- 26:25a visionary like Elon Musk, a man with
- 26:27such unparalleled intuition, would be a
- 26:30huge mistake. So, let's definitely
- 26:33approve the compensation package for
- 26:35our great and respected leader. If we
- 26:38reach a market cap of 8.5 trillion
- 26:39dollars, then, naturally, we will pay
- 26:41Musk in shares, and everything will be
- 26:43fine. Let's do it that way, because
- 26:45without him, we won't reach that goal.
- 26:48And, well, the figure is generally okay
- 26:50, and this isn't investment advice, but
- 26:52from my point of view, Tesla is an
- 26:54overvalued company; it's currently
- 26:56worth 0.5 trillion, they want to get to
- 26:580.8, and if they reach that, Musk gets
- 27:00paid in, well, shares. But a trillion
- 27:03is still, essentially, almost the
- 27:05entire current market cap of the
- 27:07company. This is a very interesting
- 27:09scam. It's unclear how they could
- 27:11possibly achieve that kind of
- 27:12capitalization. And they don't really
- 27:13know themselves, because, well, the
- 27:15electric vehicle business is, you know.
- 27:18And all that is crumbling for them, and
- 27:20their future development—as they see
- 27:21it—is in robots, AI, and somewhere
- 27:23out there in services, robotaxis,
- 27:25personal assistants, god knows what
- 27:27else; they're trying to patch together
- 27:28a business model right now. And without
- 27:31Musk, figuring out what to do next
- 27:33won't be possible, says the chair of
- 27:35the board of directors.
- 27:36Imagine if they rolled out an internal
- 27:37combustion engine. Well, that would be
- 27:40a brilliant angle, I think, if they
- 27:42rolled out an ICE, if there were some
- 27:45behind-the-scenes duties for
- 27:47development and so on.
- 27:48Well, our attitude will change.
- 27:51I have no [ __ ] clue. It’s, well,
- 27:54it’s like, you know, sort of, uh,
- 27:56like if a buddy of yours went and
- 27:58transitioned into a woman, and then
- 28:00turned back. Sort of like the same
- 28:02buddy. Oh,
- 28:04well, you,
- 28:04well, there’s a nuance. Well, you,
- 28:06well, you liked it when he was in the
- 28:08middle. Turns out he betrayed
- 28:17Dimon.
- 28:20Man, imagine if they perfect the
- 28:22autopilot just as they roll out an ICE
- 28:25vehicle, and all the headlines are just
- 28:27"Tesla on ICE is safer" one after
- 28:29another.
- 28:30They’ll make it, yeah, with an ICE
- 28:32engine, with LiDAR, with all that
- 28:33normal stuff. It will end up being a
- 28:35Golf. No, but seriously. Tesla is in a
- 28:38tough spot, it's unclear where to take
- 28:41it from here. Musk needs to be retained
- 28:43simply as an asset. Not just for PR,
- 28:45but also for his political, government,
- 28:47and networking connections—all that
- 28:49stuff—this guy needs to be kept on
- 28:51board. Besides, it seems the contract
- 28:53states that if we don't hit the target
- 28:55benchmarks, then there won't be any
- 28:57bonus at all. Musk had that before.
- 28:59He’s had many iterations of his
- 29:00contracts. They always gave him options
- 29:03for certain achievements, and it worked
- 29:06. But now the goals are just so
- 29:08incredibly ambitious. I mean, just so
- 29:10you understand, Apple’s market cap
- 29:12right now the most expensive company in
- 29:14the world is Nvidia, and its market cap
- 29:16is 5 trillion.
- 29:17That’s
- 29:18the one out of all of them,
- 29:19the most expensive company in human
- 29:21history,
- 29:22right? And Apple has 3.98 trillion
- 29:24dollars.
- 29:25So what is Toyota’s market cap then?
- 29:28Elon Musk will likely get a bonus worth
- 29:30more than Toyota’s entire market cap.
- 29:32Why not Toyota? The richest company in
- 29:35the world.
- 29:37Last year it was 305 billion.
- 29:39Why?
- 29:40If Tesla hits these absolutely
- 29:42impossible targets, Musk will get stock
- 29:44worth the value of three Toyotas.
- 29:47Holy crap.
- 29:48He’ll go and buy out Toyota first
- 29:51thing.
- 29:52He’ll go and at least buy himself a
- 29:54normal car.
- 29:55No, he’ll buy the whole company. Yeah
- 29:57, yeah, yeah. Yes,
- 29:58he’ll show up to the office with his
- 29:59bathroom sink again.
- 30:01What is that even about?
- 30:03No, then it’ll be a bucket.
- 30:04No, that’s how he walked into Twitter
- 30:06.
- 30:06I know. So, he’ll walk into an auto
- 30:08company with his own bucket.
- 30:09Oh, then he should buy Volkswagen.
- 30:11That’s true, with that money he could
- 30:13buy Toyota, Volkswagen, Subaru, and
- 30:14just everyone...
- 30:16And then he’ll put it on the table
- 30:18and say "fight."
- 30:19No, seriously, at this rate, even if he
- 30:20doesn’t hit the targets, he’ll be
- 30:22like: "Alright, I’ll just go buy
- 30:23Volkswagen.""Okay, I..."
- 30:25So be it, you’ve convinced me. I have
- 30:26enough with just a Polo for now,
- 30:29since the Volkswagen Polo sedan is the
- 30:31best car on the planet.
- 30:37Alright, since we were passing by
- 30:39Toyota, Geely is adopting Toyota's
- 30:41experience for a breakthrough with
- 30:42gasoline cars. Not "a beer for a
- 30:44breakthrough," but Toyota's experience
- 30:46in building combustion engine cars.
- 30:47What's the point? Toyota is currently
- 30:49the number one automaker. They produce
- 30:51more cars in the world than any other
- 30:53automotive company. Geely is riding the
- 30:56wings of its 2024 success, when they
- 30:58produced over three million cars, 3.35
- 31:00million, if I recall correctly. Now
- 31:02they are ahead of schedule. They plan
- 31:05to make 3.2 million, or even more, cars
- 31:07this year, which essentially places
- 31:09them in the top-tier rank immediately.
- 31:11No, they are already top 10, they
- 31:12entered the top ten back in 2020,
- 31:13right? Yes. So, they broke into the top
- 31:1610 back in 2020.
- 31:17And if they succeed, they will overtake
- 31:19Nissan and Honda, as I understand it,
- 31:21yes. And now the guys are already
- 31:24looking at the podium, looking at
- 31:26Toyota. And not only does Geely have a
- 31:28large number of interesting projects
- 31:30with Renault at the moment, like the
- 31:32modular engine we discussed, but they
- 31:34also bought 26%of Renault's Mexican
- 31:36division. And since we haven't
- 31:38discussed this news, let's include it
- 31:40right here. New green Renault models
- 31:43will get a Geely platform. This is
- 31:45precisely about Geely buying 26%of
- 31:47Renault's Mexican division. And in this
- 31:51way, Geely plans to expand its presence
- 31:52in South America, while Renault gains
- 31:54access to Geely's technologies. In
- 31:56short, the two companies are gradually
- 31:58expanding their cooperation, as they
- 32:00previously collaborated on modular
- 32:02engines. Before that, there were rumors
- 32:04that the guys were working on a shared
- 32:05platform. And it was quite a shock at
- 32:08the time when Renault, without
- 32:10consulting Nissan and Mitsubishi,
- 32:11unilaterally decided, "By the way, I'm
- 32:13working with Geely." If you weren't
- 32:16aware, Renault is not an independent
- 32:18company; it's a part of the
- 32:19Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance. But
- 32:21without asking their alliance partners,
- 32:23they just went ahead and started
- 32:24collaborating with Geely unilaterally.
- 32:27And against the backdrop of all these
- 32:29wonderful projects, Geely says they
- 32:31plan to learn from Toyota, adopting
- 32:33best practices and understanding their
- 32:35production philosophy. We like their
- 32:37strategy of being involved in
- 32:39everything. And they are primarily
- 32:41focused on combustion engines and
- 32:42hybrids, but they haven't forgotten
- 32:44about electric vehicles either. They
- 32:46are developing them there too, but they
- 32:48don't give 100%preference to any single
- 32:49type of engine. We like that. We also
- 32:52plan to develop things the same way:
- 32:54having electric cars, regular ICE cars,
- 32:57hybrids, and all possible technologies.
- 32:59Because we, as Geely, are already a big
- 33:01company: we have Volvo, we have Zeekr,
- 33:03we have Polestar, and we have just
- 33:05about everyone now. We’ve built up a
- 33:08large amount of expertise, so
- 33:10theoretically, we could take on Toyota
- 33:12in the next 10 years.
- 33:14What?
- 33:15Exactly.
- 33:16Yeah. Well,
- 33:17but they still have a long way to go to
- 33:18reach Stellantis and VAG, even
- 33:20Stellantis and VAG are far off. They
- 33:22need to at least double their
- 33:23production capacity to even catch up to
- 33:25the dying Volkswagen.
- 33:26Well, Volkswagen is still second in the
- 33:27rankings, after all. Second by
- 33:29Yes, they produce an average of 6
- 33:31million cars a year.
- 33:32And third place is Hyundai-Kia.
- 33:33Fourth is...Yes.
- 33:34They won't catch up, you know. Why?
- 33:36Because Musk will buy Toyota and Toyota
- 33:38will be no more.
- 33:40Go out at the peak. Yes.
- 33:47It’s clear that these are just goals
- 33:49and ambitions of the company's
- 33:50management for now, because it would be
- 33:51strange if they came out and said, "We
- 33:53want to be top four or top three?" A
- 33:55strange goal.
- 33:57Top-three competitors in
- 34:00among other automakers. Yeah, the guys
- 34:03are obviously aiming for the top spot,
- 34:05and good luck to them. But as for
- 34:11someone who isn't aiming for anything
- 34:13anymore, who’s already realized
- 34:14everything and is just living their
- 34:16best life, the new Jaguar GT is delayed
- 34:18, but unfortunately, it won't be
- 34:20getting any better. They promised us
- 34:22the Jaguar GT in '25, now they're
- 34:23saying, well, maybe '26; if you don't
- 34:25happen to understand what we're talking
- 34:27about, it's this magnificent car right
- 34:29here. And it's a hilarious situation in
- 34:32the sense that the Jaguar management,
- 34:33first and foremost Rawdon Glover, the
- 34:35current head of the company, constantly
- 34:37goes to all events and tries to justify
- 34:39it, saying, "No, no, don't worry, in
- 34:41person the car actually looks really
- 34:43cool." Everything is fine. Whatever you
- 34:46see, all this internet hype, all those
- 34:48photos and all that "boo-hoo," that's
- 34:49all nonsense, because in person the car
- 34:51looks just wonderful. It’s pretty
- 34:54strange when the company's leadership
- 34:56goes around making excuses to everyone
- 34:58at every public event.
- 35:00You said that with such an intonation,
- 35:01as if he should have added, "And who is
- 35:03your favorite Marvel character?"
- 35:06The double irony here is that the
- 35:08decision to kill all the company's
- 35:10Jaguar developments, which were inching
- 35:13along somehow, and to kill the
- 35:15production of traditional Jaguar models
- 35:17and so on. All of this was decided by
- 35:20Thierry Bolloré. And this guy, who
- 35:23worked at Renault for some time, was
- 35:25then fired from there, went on to
- 35:26handle Jaguar within Jaguar Land Rover,
- 35:28decided that we’re killing all of
- 35:30this, doing this GT thing instead, and
- 35:32then he got fired. So the current
- 35:35management and the current leadership
- 35:37of the company are dealing with
- 35:39decisions made before them. All the
- 35:41marketing damage has been done, all the
- 35:43PR damage has been done, the R&D is
- 35:45buried, everything is buried. And
- 35:48they’re like, "Well, it’s not all
- 35:51that bad. It looks perfect in the metal
- 35:56." We are a bit behind on the
- 35:58development of this luxury electric car
- 36:00of ours, which no one gives a crap
- 36:02about anyway, because there is no
- 36:03luxury electric car segment. It’s
- 36:06shrinking, it doesn't exist. The market
- 36:08is shrinking, the segment is shrinking,
- 36:09the financial statements are shrinking,
- 36:11everything is shrinking.
- 36:12But hey, they’ll be the leaders in
- 36:13the segment if you’re the only one in
- 36:15the segment. Well, by the way, the
- 36:18delay could also be due to the fact
- 36:20that JLR recently had that hacker
- 36:22attack which cost them many, many
- 36:25millions,
- 36:25yeah, and the fact that their plants
- 36:27were idle for two months, or a month
- 36:28and a half,
- 36:29they need to get back on their feet now
- 36:31,
- 36:31well, they should try to even get on
- 36:33their knees first. Let's put it this
- 36:34way: they’ve been lying flat on the
- 36:35floor for a long time.
- 36:36Well, Land Rover was still making money
- 36:37for them. It’s clear that the Jaguar
- 36:40strategy is strange, because they were
- 36:41late to everything; they didn't manage
- 36:43to develop it, and now the electric
- 36:44vehicle market is already gone. And
- 36:46then this hack attack, talk about bad
- 36:48luck.
- 36:49Well, that doesn’t even matter,
- 36:50because by the time the cyberattack
- 36:52happened, Jaguar wasn't producing
- 36:54anything anyway. As a separate division
- 36:56, they didn't really care. So the
- 36:57website isn't working, what's it to us?
- 36:59Nobody calls us anyway. We aren't
- 37:01needed by anyone anymore regardless.
- 37:02Besides, that’s a very strange move.
- 37:04Hello, my name is Delimkhan. Why isn't
- 37:09everything fine there? And it’s such
- 37:12a bizarre action to just go and bury it
- 37:15. Yes, you didn't have many clients
- 37:17before this, but Jaguar still had some
- 37:19brand value, an audience, traditions;
- 37:21it’s an ancient company. There is a
- 37:24pool of people who would be willing to
- 37:25buy anything, as long as it was
- 37:27somewhat in line with the heritage or
- 37:29style, and so on. They killed
- 37:30everything completely. Now they’re
- 37:32sitting there with this Jaguar GT.
- 37:34It’s as if the company's management
- 37:35decided to bet everything on red. But
- 37:37it turned out to be zero. And all they
- 37:40can do now is go around and make
- 37:41excuses, like, well, when the GT comes
- 37:43out, we don't even know what will
- 37:45happen ourselves. They've lowered the
- 37:49bar so much that wild fines for
- 37:51producing ICE cars are finishing off
- 37:52the European auto industry. First of
- 37:54all, this is an article from our
- 37:55beloved Avtovzglyad. We shouldn't
- 37:57forget that. If you suddenly don't know
- 37:58what Avtovzglyad is, rewatch the whole
- 38:00channel. Just in case, well, it will be
- 38:03useful for you. Well, the publication
- 38:07highlights an article saying look, the
- 38:09situation is getting worse every year,
- 38:11because we remember that a long time
- 38:13ago the European Commission adopted a
- 38:15transition plan, well, specifically to
- 38:17a certain emission level. And if a car
- 38:20manufacturer doesn't meet the emission
- 38:22standards for their production, for
- 38:24their average, for their model range—
- 38:25there are different calculation methods
- 38:27, it doesn't matter. If they don't meet
- 38:30it, we fine them. Or they can buy
- 38:33quotas from a green company like Tesla
- 38:34or some carbon-neutral company and
- 38:36continue living in peace. We've talked
- 38:38about this regarding ecology, and we've
- 38:39talked about it in many other places in
- 38:41general, that this whole story is just
- 38:42about, well, like making some amount of
- 38:43money. And nobody has canceled this
- 38:45line yet. And every year the fines get
- 38:48bigger and bigger. And right now,
- 38:50someone like Volkswagen, not only is
- 38:52their entire financial report being
- 38:53torn apart because, well, production
- 38:55isn't clicking, energy prices are very
- 38:57high, trade wars, logistics, having to
- 38:59move factories, and all that nonsense.
- 39:01But at the same time, they also have to
- 39:03pay fines.
- 39:03Some kind of Vatican tax.
- 39:05And all the auto concerns currently in
- 39:07Europe, they could collectively be on
- 39:09the hook for 3.5 billion euros in net
- 39:11cash. Just take it out of the till and
- 39:13hand it over. In the form of fines,
- 39:15because they aren't meeting the CO2
- 39:16standards. Wait, and what if they meet
- 39:18—well, if the car is produced for
- 39:20export, does that also—well, still
- 39:22they must have an average model range
- 39:24indicator,
- 39:24so that on average all the cars you
- 39:26released must, well, have a certain
- 39:28level of emissions. Specifically in
- 39:302025, this indicator should be 93.6
- 39:33grams per kilometer. Well, of some
- 39:35particles there. In 2020, the target
- 39:37indicator was set at 95 grams per
- 39:39kilometer.
- 39:40Wait, and just now you mentioned a
- 39:42number,
- 39:4393, 93.5, right? Ah, and it's already
- 39:45by this much
- 39:46and it is gradually, gradually
- 39:47narrowing. And this reduction in
- 39:49targets was calculated based on the
- 39:50assumption that by this current year,
- 39:522025, a lot of electric vehicles would
- 39:54be sold, a market for them would be
- 39:56established, everything would be great,
- 39:58everything would be fine, and a larger
- 40:00number of cars would be electric. So
- 40:02the fact that you might be producing
- 40:03some commercial equipment with an
- 40:05internal combustion engine or some
- 40:07budget cars still produced with these
- 40:09small ICE engines, that’s fine. You
- 40:11will still be able to lower your
- 40:13average emissions rating across your
- 40:15vehicles. But somehow, there hasn't
- 40:18been an increase in electric vehicles.
- 40:20There hasn't been an increase. Well, I
- 40:21mean, or rather, the electric vehicle
- 40:23market is expanding and developing not
- 40:25as fast as they would like. So it's not
- 40:27the bureaucrats who are the jerks, it's
- 40:29the car companies that are the jerks.
- 40:31They aren't succeeding, hence the fines
- 40:32.
- 40:34This target is, in general, quite...
- 40:35well, it's hard for even small cars to
- 40:37reach. 93,
- 40:40yeah. Euro 6 engines are 107, on
- 40:42average 107-110. I mean, look, if we
- 40:46take, say, a metric for comparison, a
- 40:47Land Cruiser, for example, let's take
- 40:49the Land Cruiser.
- 40:51Let's look at the Land Cruiser and the
- 40:53Prius, like those kinds of things.
- 40:54Let's, let's look. Land Cruiser.
- 40:57Doesn't it bother you that it's all
- 40:58Toyota?
- 40:58Whatever. Goodness,
- 41:01let's just take a reference as it
- 41:03should be.
- 41:03The new Land Cruiser 250.
- 41:06That's the Prado, in our terms.
- 41:07Yes, the Prado, exactly. It has 236 g/
- 41:10km.
- 41:11Well, that's probably the gasoline one,
- 41:12which is like a turbo engine and all
- 41:14that.
- 41:14Oh, excuse me, not 236, 244.
- 41:16Uh-huh.
- 41:17But it's still almost three times
- 41:19higher, well,
- 41:19yeah,
- 41:20than the target that the model range
- 41:22average should be. The current Toyota
- 41:25Prius is 82 g/km.
- 41:28Just produce all Priuses and everything
- 41:30will be fine for five years.
- 41:31Well, this is British, this is
- 41:32specifically a British Prius.
- 41:34It’s not a plug-in, not a PHEV.
- 41:36Let's check now. This is
- 41:39What if we invite the commission after
- 41:41pre-installing outlets on all the cars?
- 41:44Oh, boy.
- 41:45That's exactly what they would say.
- 41:47There's such a mountain of them here.
- 41:49What are you talking about? Priuses,
- 41:51right?
- 41:52Well, they have
- 41:5382 is the average for a Prius. And here
- 41:57they have the breakdown by year and all
- 41:59that.
- 41:59It's not there.
- 42:00How about the PHEV Prius?
- 42:02Prius PHEV, yes.
- 42:03The current 2025 model, 17 g/km. Oh,
- 42:06well that’s probably if you plug it
- 42:07in to charge all the time,
- 42:08right? Well, we recently had news about
- 42:11the fact that
- 42:12Yes, yes, that a hybrid needs to be
- 42:13charged from an outlet.
- 42:14Testers think that's how it will be,
- 42:15like people will always charge them.
- 42:17The current hybrid, the regular one,
- 42:20but the current model year, 110 g/km.
- 42:23Unbelievable. Well, if the Prius can't
- 42:26hit 93, then
- 42:27that's the whole point, that your
- 42:29rating of 90 is supposed to be the
- 42:31average for the model line. For an
- 42:33electric car, it's zero. You release an
- 42:35electric car, and it's zero there.
- 42:36Yeah. Yeah.
- 42:37Well, 20 is zero. That's it. Not quite.
- 42:40But in fact, you can just release a
- 42:42huge number of tiny little electric
- 42:44cars that you basically shove into the
- 42:46price of a regular internal combustion
- 42:48engine car. But overall, it
- 42:50you're kind of buying two cars, one
- 42:52just sits somewhere.
- 42:54That's exactly how it's all happening
- 42:55now, everyone is trying and wondering
- 42:57how to even fit in, because these
- 42:58restrictions don't align with reality.
- 43:00And with the current automotive
- 43:01industry, it, well, it can't keep
- 43:03existing like this. So how everyone
- 43:04will get out of this is unclear. But if
- 43:07nothing changes, if the European
- 43:09Commission doesn't release an
- 43:10additional document or regulation,
- 43:12automakers are going to get hit with
- 43:143.2 billion euros in fines next year.
- 43:16Not next year, based on this year's
- 43:18results.
- 43:18Well, I mean, they'll have to pay it
- 43:20next year. They get hit this year, and
- 43:22the fine is due next year, please pay
- 43:24up.
- 43:24Damn, and it turns out, with a PHEV,
- 43:25you can't even measure how many times a
- 43:27person charges it from a wall outlet
- 43:28versus how many times they...
- 43:29You can't measure it. That's exactly
- 43:30the news we were discussing in the
- 43:32Telegram channel. On paper, your PHEV
- 43:34comes out like this, but in reality, it
- 43:36turns out completely different because
- 43:38nobody charges them and nobody uses
- 43:40them correctly at all. Everyone just
- 43:41drives them into the ground, that's it.
- 43:43It turns out. A Li Auto, for example,
- 43:45has emissions around 50g. But in
- 43:47reality, because everyone runs them on
- 43:49gas, it's much...
- 43:50much higher, yeah. But I think Li
- 43:52Auto's official rating is lower. Let's
- 43:55see.
- 43:55Li isn't a PHEV anymore, it's an EREV.
- 43:58What is that? Range Extended Electric
- 44:00Vehicle, that is, a series hybrid.
- 44:02You've got everything mixed up in your
- 44:04head. Totally.
- 44:09It's got a range extender.
- 44:11Since the car isn't European, they
- 44:13don't have this listed anywhere. Only
- 44:15Europeans are obsessed with this. Now
- 44:18we're going to search in the marketing.
- 44:20Whatever hieroglyph might be there.
- 44:23What? Seriously? No. See, it's clear
- 44:28what's important to the Chinese. They
- 44:30care about things like autopilot, size,
- 44:33seat ventilation, range. Now that looks
- 44:36more like what people are actually
- 44:37interested in regarding a car. Nobody
- 44:39gives a damn about CO2. Where is it?
- 44:42Well, it's less than that coal plant of
- 44:44ours. So it's fine.
- 44:46Actually, in the official presentation,
- 44:47there's nothing about CO2. Absolutely
- 44:49nothing at all.
- 44:50Why do we need chemistry, brother? We
- 44:52are doing physics here.
- 44:54We are doing magic here. It drives by
- 44:58itself. What is it if not magic? There
- 45:01really isn't any. I'm digging through
- 45:02the official materials. Airbags, body
- 45:05structure. Yes. All the vision and
- 45:08braking systems, everything is cool.
- 45:11Installment plans, monitors on co,
- 45:13there's just no info. There, you know,
- 45:16there's 500 even officially,
- 45:19more than the first Hummer.
- 45:22In any case, the targets aren't being
- 45:24met. Either way, they'll have to either
- 45:27backpedal or issue fines. By the way,
- 45:30in one of our previous news episodes,
- 45:31we mentioned that the European
- 45:32Commission was supposed to sit down and
- 45:34reconsider the ICE ban. Nothing
- 45:36happened. I later sat and dug through
- 45:38all possible media outlets and so on.
- 45:40Total silence. I didn't see any mention
- 45:43that it happened, that it took place.
- 45:46There is mention that it was supposed
- 45:47to happen on November 1st or 2nd, here
- 45:49and there, but nothing happened. So we
- 45:50are watching. As soon as any official
- 45:53EU documents surface, we will discuss
- 45:55it with you immediately. And that's it
- 46:00for this episode.
- 46:01Damn, you promised a lot of Toyota news
- 46:03. In the end, we would have only
- 46:05covered one car.
- 46:06Toyota showed a lot of things at the
- 46:07Japan Mobility Show. We've actually
- 46:10been putting this off for three
- 46:11episodes, just because we get
- 46:12distracted by something else. And so,
- 46:14well, yeah,
- 46:15we promised you, we promise you
- 46:21in the spring, imagine, a review of all
- 46:25the new Toyotas from Stas on Boosty.
- 46:28Purely for the aesthetes.
- 46:30Whoa, whoa, see,
- 46:31is this the Boosty where only he will
- 46:33be subscribed?
- 46:35And he has a subsc
- 46:36this will be, this is specifically
- 46:38f-Boosty me, you know, this really
- 46:40hurts me, like this.
- 46:42Paid for by faces. You've got that
- 46:45format now, where you watch a video and
- 46:47comment on it. Right. Right.
- 46:49Yes. Yes. Yes.
- 46:50They show you a Toyota, and you comment
- 46:52on it.
- 46:52So, and the Polygon one won't be out
- 46:53yet, right? By the time the rele
- 46:55by this moment the Polygon still hasn't
- 46:56come out, right? On Tuesday. Which week
- 46:59? They wrote Spring 2025 there. They
- 47:02should have written spring. Just
- 47:06nothing teaches life yet. And there was
- 47:12supposed to be a bumper here, but we
- 47:14ran out of money. And people were like,
- 47:16let's go. And the fines were just in
- 47:21the loop. Ah.
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