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  1. 0:00Happy Wednesday to you. We have a ton
  2. 0:02of interesting things today. We have a
  3. 0:03pack of news about Tesla. They are
  4. 0:05pulling some stunts with Tesla again.
  5. 0:06In the previous news episode, we didn't
  6. 0:08have time to discuss the slew of
  7. 0:10Toyotas shown at the Japan Mobility
  8. 0:11Show. Hi.
  9. 0:25Most importantly, did they send you the
  10. 0:27estimate for the Alfa?
  11. 0:28No, not yet. Right now they’re just
  12. 0:31inventing numbers, like, they don't
  13. 0:33know such numbers exist. How much will
  14. 0:35it cost?
  15. 0:36No, you just gifted me the suspension.
  16. 0:39I know, I already have a bit of a story
  17. 0:40that happened to me just over this past
  18. 0:42week. The previous service center
  19. 0:45refunded me for the parts I had paid
  20. 0:47for and ordered from them. And so, it
  21. 0:50turns out, I have an invoice for only
  22. 0:52a work order.
  23. 0:53Work order. Sorry.
  24. 0:55It doesn't matter. Yeah, maybe it's an
  25. 0:56invoice in the Alfa club. I don't
  26. 0:59So, for replacing the third brake light
  27. 1:01bulb, replacing the license plate bulb,
  28. 1:03replacing the rear brake discs and pads
  29. 1:06, replacing the parking brake cable,
  30. 1:08wheel alignment, tire service, whatever
  31. 1:10it's called, and replacing some other
  32. 1:12fluids. Also included are brake fluid,
  33. 1:15Brembo, all of it is Brembo. Bremba,
  34. 1:17brem. Totaling 55,440.
  35. 1:19Oh, wow, that's really cheap. Are you
  36. 1:22kidding? This is,
  37. 1:23well, this is without the suspension.
  38. 1:25Basically, what I have going on, for
  39. 1:27the major work, is brake repair,
  40. 1:29replacement of rear brake discs,
  41. 1:31calipers, pads, and a full tire service
  42. 1:33with alignment. You
  43. 1:35have no idea how lightly you got off. A
  44. 1:38bullet just flew right past you here.
  45. 1:40Like, I don't know if the Razgon
  46. 1:41episode has been released yet or not by
  47. 1:43now. But in our current pool, the
  48. 1:45pre-New Year one, we shot a video there
  49. 1:47about the worst car. I can probably
  50. 1:49spoil that for Dorokh, naturally, it's
  51. 1:51the Evik. Uh-huh.
  52. 1:53An estimate and an amazing person, whom
  53. 1:55, well, I tell him to his face: "Denis,
  54. 1:57have you got AutoPragmat? We are ready
  55. 2:01for you, like, personally for you, to
  56. 2:02solve issues, there are times, you know
  57. 2:04, for super important people, or
  58. 2:06someone else, like, say, Konstantin
  59. 2:07Sergeyevich calls us and says he needs
  60. 2:09a Bentley to put on tracks." We’re
  61. 2:11like: "Alright." And we handle those
  62. 2:13tasks too. Well, that we will find and
  63. 2:14select absolutely anything for you. If
  64. 2:15you ever want to buy a car, just call,
  65. 2:17well, at least ask me for advice,
  66. 2:18forget about AutoPragmat. Just write to
  67. 2:20me, and we’ll come up with something
  68. 2:22for you. Something just snapped in him.
  69. 2:24He just saw an ad, looked at a photo,
  70. 2:26and bought some car in another city
  71. 2:29without even seeing it. What he got was
  72. 2:32a total wreck; it’s hard to imagine a
  73. 2:34worse car in general.
  74. 2:35Well, you told us he already spent so
  75. 2:37much he could have just bought one in
  76. 2:39perfect condition.
  77. 2:40Not just bought one in perfect
  78. 2:42condition—he could have bought a
  79. 2:43perfect one and had a huge, fancy
  80. 2:45celebration in downtown Moscow with a
  81. 2:47crowd. I lied a little. I forgot that
  82. 2:50the price tag didn’t include the
  83. 2:52parts I had already paid for. So, I
  84. 2:54need to add about 25,000 to that. I
  85. 2:57mean, out of this
  86. 2:58when you buy a car sight unseen, yes,
  87. 3:01God knows where, and it just shows up,
  88. 3:03that's how shipping works. But when you
  89. 3:07do it domestically, when you buy a rare
  90. 3:10car and just hope that everything is
  91. 3:12fine over the phone, it’s such a
  92. 3:14lottery.
  93. 3:16You can get stuck with such insane
  94. 3:18costs. A couple of episodes ago, we
  95. 3:21said I allegedly bought it at the
  96. 3:22bottom of the market, but there is no
  97. 3:23market, and I took the second car from
  98. 3:25the top, it was higher than
  99. 3:27there were just two of them.
  100. 3:28There are only five,
  101. 3:29like, one at the top, the other at the
  102. 3:30bottom. That’s it. That’s the whole
  103. 3:32Miata orgy. Here in Russia
  104. 3:34there were only five of them. So I took
  105. 3:36the second one from the top. There’s
  106. 3:38a 400,000 difference between
  107. 3:39the first and the second. But
  108. 3:41nevertheless.
  109. 3:42No, you can really get screwed here.
  110. 3:45It’s very unpleasant. Very unpleasant
  111. 3:46. That’s why you got off very lightly
  112. 3:48.
  113. 3:48But my engine costs 100,000. Your
  114. 3:50battery costs 100,000. And my engine
  115. 3:52costs 100,000.
  116. 3:53My battery costs a lot more. First of
  117. 3:56all,
  118. 3:57sucked it up, messed up, moved on.
  119. 3:59No, I mean, it’s painfully sad. Yeah,
  120. 4:01for the Porsh
  121. 4:02it was something like 400 you said,
  122. 4:03right?
  123. 4:04That’s for a 911, a 992, for a 718 I
  124. 4:06don’t know how much it costs. It’s
  125. 4:08a regular one, not a lithium-ion one,
  126. 4:09so it’s probably more expensive than
  127. 4:11a hundred grand original now in current
  128. 4:12conditions. But compared to lithium-ion
  129. 4:14batteries, it’s not expensive.
  130. 4:16Lithium-ion batteries used in modern
  131. 4:19cars can cost up to 700,000.
  132. 4:23Well, in 1,000 km, my car hits 200,000
  133. 4:25on the body, electronics, and
  134. 4:27everything else. So for that date, for
  135. 4:29that mileage, I gifted it original
  136. 4:32Recaro seats.
  137. 4:34True, not from that car, but what of it
  138. 4:35? Why not?
  139. 4:37Yeah
  140. 4:38You are too, in general. Well, you're
  141. 4:39yellow. Yellow, so overall it's very
  142. 4:42similar to the Megane R.S. I thought it
  143. 4:44would fit in just fine. Why not?
  144. 4:47No, these are the same ones put on old
  145. 4:49Porsches, I don't remember which body.
  146. 4:51No, there’s a lot of Recaro. Where
  147. 4:53does it stitch it exactly, I think like
  148. 4:55a carbon bucket is the real deal.
  149. 4:57It’s really great.
  150. 4:58And you drove it a little bit, didn't
  151. 4:59you? Just a tiny bit, but I drove it.
  152. 5:01Well, it seemed okay.
  153. 5:02No, it's a good, cool, fun
  154. 5:03front-wheel-drive car. We were on the
  155. 5:06runway there, of course, there’s
  156. 5:07still work to be done to catch up with
  157. 5:09the Granta. We mentioned in the
  158. 5:13previous news segment that we filmed at
  159. 5:15the proving ground. A lot of
  160. 5:16interesting things happened there,
  161. 5:17including with the Lada Granta.
  162. 5:19So, should we talk about your video or
  163. 5:21not?
  164. 5:21He knows.
  165. 5:23I mean, if you want, let's say it.
  166. 5:25What are you afraid of? Afraid that
  167. 5:26people are writing that you’re some
  168. 5:28kind of Stas's produced project or what
  169. 5:30?
  170. 5:30I am your produced project.
  171. 5:34You didn't know?
  172. 5:34If you guys don't know, Aksar posted a
  173. 5:36video, actually, with this Alfa. They
  174. 5:38filmed a review there. A produced
  175. 5:39project.
  176. 5:40Yeah.
  177. 5:41I am your project, from a voice in your
  178. 5:43head, I turned into a project. I told
  179. 5:45you, you should have just stood in the
  180. 5:47frame for 30 seconds, just said hello,
  181. 5:49like "hello," then said "I'm
  182. 5:51uncomfortable," walked behind the
  183. 5:52camera, and hosted the review from
  184. 5:54behind the lens. I mean, it was just
  185. 5:56hanging in the air. You just had to—
  186. 5:59well, honestly, I have to teach you
  187. 6:00everything.
  188. 6:03Didn't produce it, apparently.
  189. 6:04Apparently. Yes, even here in the
  190. 6:06produced project, I failed. With that,
  191. 6:09let's move on to the news. It feels
  192. 6:14like news these days just follows the
  193. 6:15format of "such and such concern
  194. 6:16decided to close production of such and
  195. 6:18such car." Oh, no, no, no, they didn't
  196. 6:19decide. There we go, resuming.
  197. 6:21Fine, since you want that kind of news,
  198. 6:24I've got some. GM will cut thousands of
  199. 6:26employees due to falling demand for
  200. 6:28electric cars. They have a huge factory
  201. 6:30, GM Factory ZERO, which they opened
  202. 6:32with fanfare, saying everything would
  203. 6:34be great. And we recently discussed
  204. 6:37with you that they started cutting
  205. 6:39their project in Canada with trucks. A
  206. 6:41project which bears the name BrightDrop
  207. 6:43. And simultaneously with that, they
  208. 6:45are also slowly starting to trim down
  209. 6:47Factory ZERO a little bit. Factory ZERO
  210. 6:50. That's the place where the electric
  211. 6:51Hummer and electric Cadillac are
  212. 6:52produced. And it somehow turns out, you
  213. 6:55know, that this whole modern Cadillac
  214. 6:58Escalade IQ only sold about 6,000 units
  215. 7:01in 2025. Well, with all the subsidies
  216. 7:04and the fact that it's a new car, with
  217. 7:06new tech, and how wonderful, cool, and
  218. 7:07amazing it's supposed to be. But they
  219. 7:10sold 35,000 of those old, smelly,
  220. 7:12classic gasoline Escalades. Considering
  221. 7:15they're being banned, hit with extra
  222. 7:17duties, and gas is considered gross and
  223. 7:19can't be advertised. Ugh, nasty.
  224. 7:21Wait, where are they being banned? They
  225. 7:23aren't being banned in the US.
  226. 7:24You mean advertising, right?
  227. 7:25Yeah, California at most. They’re
  228. 7:27really strict on environmental stuff
  229. 7:28there. Well, and in all the states too,
  230. 7:31it seems, their main policy is that you
  231. 7:33can't just run an ad now saying, like,
  232. 7:36look at my awesome V8.
  233. 7:38Biden's policy was: "Increase the
  234. 7:40number of electric vehicles sold in the
  235. 7:42states."
  236. 7:42Yeah.
  237. 7:43Well, under Trump, I haven't officially
  238. 7:45heard that we're abandoning this policy
  239. 7:48, but there hasn't been any program to
  240. 7:50fight against internal combustion
  241. 7:52engine ads. In my experience, it’s
  242. 7:55all done sneakily, you know, as if
  243. 7:56there isn't even an official ban. But I
  244. 7:59haven't seen a single ad in the
  245. 8:00American or European market that says:
  246. 8:02look at our horsepower, our gasoline,
  247. 8:04our V8. Sometimes clips from oil
  248. 8:07companies slip through. We discussed in
  249. 8:10some news video that clip where they
  250. 8:12simulated the future, with everything
  251. 8:14on wires, where people were chained to
  252. 8:16electrical grids and so on. Some guy
  253. 8:19gets into a regular gasoline pickup and
  254. 8:21finds freedom, then drives away. Yeah,
  255. 8:23I saw it.
  256. 8:24Yes. Things like that happen. But for
  257. 8:27automakers to go around saying how
  258. 8:28great their combustion engines are?
  259. 8:31Well, Stellantis is turning around now,
  260. 8:33they launched that Ram with the new V8,
  261. 8:37right,
  262. 8:37and they’re gradually starting to say
  263. 8:39that we have a new gasoline engine. But
  264. 8:40you have to realize how much they hyped
  265. 8:43the public beforehand, saying here are
  266. 8:45our progressive cars, our EVs, our
  267. 8:47everything-plus-subsidies, and still
  268. 8:49the results are, well, mediocre, so
  269. 8:52they have to cut production jobs and
  270. 8:54shut down factories. And that's the
  271. 8:56news on this. Essentially, in all
  272. 8:58divisions that deal with anything
  273. 9:00electric inside GM, 3,600 employees—
  274. 9:02that's not everyone, of course. People
  275. 9:05are still there, it's just an
  276. 9:06optimization for now. But the process
  277. 9:07has begun, and we're waiting to see how
  278. 9:09things develop.
  279. 9:10Yes, it's worth noting that GM isn't
  280. 9:12actually abandoning all electric
  281. 9:13vehicles. They are just shifting
  282. 9:15priorities now and saying they will
  283. 9:16make budget-friendly EVs.
  284. 9:18And regular gasoline cars, maybe some
  285. 9:19hybrids too, somehow. We are now
  286. 9:21everything, everywhere. And I think, in
  287. 9:23the long run, absolutely all automakers
  288. 9:25will come out and say, well, we are
  289. 9:26going to produce everything now: this,
  290. 9:28that, the fifth, the tenth, the
  291. 9:30thirteenth, the eighteenth. Whatever
  292. 9:32you buy, that's what we'll produce.
  293. 9:33They did a flip-flop on gasoline. Yeah.
  294. 9:36What did they flip-flop on?
  295. 9:37Well, all of this.
  296. 9:38Ah, yes.
  297. 9:40Just a little bit back. Man, no,
  298. 9:42actually the most sound position for an
  299. 9:45automaker is to produce everything and
  300. 9:48then follow the demand. They are
  301. 9:50returning to such a reasonable strategy
  302. 9:52. Uh-huh. Interesting, any fresh new
  303. 9:55ideas?
  304. 9:56Listen, there's also the point that,
  305. 9:58given how much policy shifted in the
  306. 10:01States after Trump came in, it could
  307. 10:03happen that after Trump a Biden-type
  308. 10:05person comes in, roughly speaking, the
  309. 10:07Democrats, the Bidenites,
  310. 10:09right? Democrats.
  311. 10:11And then everyone's like, "Whoa, back
  312. 10:12to electric cars again."
  313. 10:14It’s not about politics, well, or
  314. 10:15rather, it’s not just about political
  315. 10:17statements. The most important thing is
  316. 10:19the budget. Subsidies, support, media
  317. 10:22coverage. Making extra money on this
  318. 10:26just isn't working anymore. That's it.
  319. 10:29You keep whistling, they don't have any
  320. 10:30more money.
  321. 10:33I was whistling at them for 10 years on
  322. 10:35purpose. Meanwhile, Toyota has unveiled
  323. 10:41a tiny construction truck that will be
  324. 10:43sold semi-disassembled. Why the hell
  325. 10:45should we finish building it? A product
  326. 10:48that, well, we’ll just say it’ll
  327. 10:50look something like this. You guys
  328. 10:52finish putting it together yourselves.
  329. 10:53Here’s an IKEA-style blueprint for
  330. 10:54you. Here’s one wrench for you. Go
  331. 10:56ahead and screw something on, said
  332. 10:59the guys. So, it's a DIY project then?
  333. 11:00Look,
  334. 11:02officially, Toyota is legalizing all
  335. 11:04these things. But in reality, guys,
  336. 11:06they are showing a very cool concept.
  337. 11:08That Japan Mobility Show happened, and
  338. 11:09there was a lot of interesting stuff
  339. 11:11there. And among other things, the guys
  340. 11:13showed this concept. It's not a
  341. 11:14production car yet, but what's the
  342. 11:16point? Some time ago, they showed the
  343. 11:18Hilux Champ concept. It’s this kind
  344. 11:22of small truck that’s supposed to be
  345. 11:23modular, where you initially buy the
  346. 11:25platform, and then depending on your
  347. 11:27needs, you either make a passenger
  348. 11:28version, or some cargo version, or you
  349. 11:30make a bigger one, a refrigerator, or
  350. 11:32something else. Because, well, in
  351. 11:35developing countries and countries with
  352. 11:37weaker economies, you constantly need
  353. 11:38workhorses, and they have their own
  354. 11:40specific tasks, and it's very difficult
  355. 11:42to make a car that is absolutely
  356. 11:43universal for everyone. So you create a
  357. 11:45sort of platform, and then you guys can
  358. 11:46have fun with it however you want. At
  359. 11:48first, the whole press thought, as soon
  360. 11:50as they showed this concept, that it
  361. 11:51was some kind of, well, they had
  362. 11:52fantasized a bit too much and nothing
  363. 11:54like this would ever reach production.
  364. 11:56Well, these trucks have been in
  365. 11:57production for a few years now, they're
  366. 11:59in demand, and now Toyota is going
  367. 12:00further. They are showing this thing
  368. 12:02and saying, look, this is a small truck
  369. 12:04for really poor countries. Purely to
  370. 12:07save on costs, we will sell it
  371. 12:09semi-disassembled, so that people
  372. 12:10somewhere out there in Africa, when
  373. 12:12they get this car, can also start
  374. 12:13customizing and finishing it for their
  375. 12:15own specific needs. And in this way,
  376. 12:17you can create jobs there if the demand
  377. 12:19for this equipment is high enough. Plus
  378. 12:21, make some kind of universal thing for
  379. 12:23doing some small jobs, hauling things
  380. 12:25here and there, driving across a field,
  381. 12:27bringing water, which is a rarity in
  382. 12:29Africa. And
  383. 12:32sorry,
  384. 12:33let me just rant.
  385. 12:34But that’s the point. You need to
  386. 12:36make some kind of ultra-budget,
  387. 12:38maximally practical, modular piece of
  388. 12:40junk that you can then adapt on the
  389. 12:42spot for your own needs. And so the
  390. 12:44guys are just showing such a concept.
  391. 12:46It’s not entirely clear if it’s an
  392. 12:48electric vehicle or internal combustion
  393. 12:50, because for now we just have a
  394. 12:51drawing of the key, and it’s highly
  395. 12:53likely it should have some simple
  396. 12:54engine, because an electric one will
  397. 12:56most likely be expensive. Plus,
  398. 12:57there’s nowhere to charge it out in
  399. 12:59the middle of a field.
  400. 13:00It’s unclear what kind of motor is
  401. 13:01here, because it doesn’t look like
  402. 13:02there’s an internal combustion engine
  403. 13:04with a radiator. But on the other hand,
  404. 13:05it’s a concept.
  405. 13:06On the other hand, a concept. Well,
  406. 13:08look, if an internal combustion engine
  407. 13:10is intended here, it still needs to be
  408. 13:12designed into the layout somehow.
  409. 13:15Well, if it’s some small
  410. 13:16single-cylinder or two-cylinder motor
  411. 13:18that could be placed like in a Buchanka
  412. 13:20van, right here by the driver, then
  413. 13:21there could quite possibly be room for
  414. 13:23it.
  415. 13:24And if the concept is such that it must
  416. 13:27be as cheap as possible and easy to
  417. 13:29assemble by hand,
  418. 13:30is that a hole for your feet or what?
  419. 13:31What? No, I don't mean it’s
  420. 13:34pedal-powered
  421. 13:35or bolting it on directly like this.
  422. 13:38And once again, Toyota has made a car
  423. 13:40for the white man, to be hauled by
  424. 13:41Negroes.
  425. 13:43The most important thing is that
  426. 13:44there’s a mount for a machine gun.
  427. 13:46Never mind the engine.
  428. 13:48No, what I mean is, if this concept is
  429. 13:49designed so that a person can assemble
  430. 13:51it somewhere in another country, far,
  431. 13:53far away, on their own, then the
  432. 13:55radiator could just sit in front
  433. 13:56without a grille, and the engine could
  434. 13:58be bolted on externally, well, with its
  435. 14:00outer part, so to speak. What about the
  436. 14:03gearbox?
  437. 14:03What if there’s
  438. 14:04you need some kind of adapter, you
  439. 14:06can't just bolt an engine to any
  440. 14:07gearbox. You have a pair, engine and
  441. 14:09gearbox.
  442. 14:09I understand, but it will be
  443. 14:11or from a Prado, or something, or from
  444. 14:13No, but this isn't just a cart, it's
  445. 14:15designed, obviously. The main thing is
  446. 14:17that they are showing the idea here,
  447. 14:19that we are also thinking about making
  448. 14:22an even simpler thing, even smaller,
  449. 14:24also modular. And I think that just
  450. 14:27like they tested with the Daihatsu
  451. 14:29Copen, where they showed a concept that
  452. 14:30didn't fit the Kei car regulations,
  453. 14:32gathered feedback, and then said, "Here
  454. 14:34, have a new Kei car." It's the same
  455. 14:36thing here. I think they aren't just
  456. 14:38measuring, well, now they will be
  457. 14:39measuring, or rather, some activity,
  458. 14:41potential orders, something, some of
  459. 14:43their marketing metrics, and then they
  460. 14:45will decide whether to develop it
  461. 14:46further or not. In general, does the
  462. 14:48market like this idea or not, are there
  463. 14:50requests or not? Well, it's just, well,
  464. 14:52maybe I don't understand, but surely
  465. 14:55developing and releasing something like
  466. 14:57this is much cheaper than building some
  467. 15:00new SUV or truck.
  468. 15:01Not necessarily. Not a fact at all. On
  469. 15:03the contrary, you,
  470. 15:05well, look, I apologize for
  471. 15:07interrupting, but here, I assume, the
  472. 15:09safety standards and everything else
  473. 15:12are likely very different from the
  474. 15:14requirements for cars that,
  475. 15:16of course,
  476. 15:17so it will likely be classified more
  477. 15:19like a tractor.
  478. 15:21The question of developing a car is
  479. 15:23twofold. On one hand, you have a budget
  480. 15:27allocated by the automaker to an
  481. 15:28engineering group, saying we have a
  482. 15:30department working on such-and-such
  483. 15:31project, and you are developing, say, a
  484. 15:33Lada Vesta, or something,
  485. 15:35let's use a better example.
  486. 15:37More precisely,
  487. 15:41a bigger example, yes. Let's say you're
  488. 15:44developing a Renault Logan, there’s a
  489. 15:46department of engineers, designers,
  490. 15:47someone, and they have a task, and you
  491. 15:49don't even know you're developing a
  492. 15:51Renault Logan. The automaker, the
  493. 15:53company management, comes to you and
  494. 15:55says we need a budget car for 10,000
  495. 15:56dollars, so that the final price ends
  496. 15:58up being 10,000 dollars. We calculated
  497. 16:00in our production model, if the final
  498. 16:02car is to cost $ 10,000, we have a
  499. 16:04certain internal budget for development
  500. 16:07. And you need the engineers to develop
  501. 16:10a finished car, but stay within that
  502. 16:13budget. That’s one side of it. On the
  503. 16:15other hand, besides the design of the
  504. 16:17car itself, you need to figure out
  505. 16:19which parts to use, what methods to use
  506. 16:21, and where to manufacture it. And if
  507. 16:24some specific parts don't exist yet,
  508. 16:26you have to plan the production of
  509. 16:28those parts for this specific car, you
  510. 16:31know?
  511. 16:31Yeah, yeah, yeah.
  512. 16:33And all of this together must fit into
  513. 16:35the budget possible at a potential
  514. 16:38sales volume of these cars per year.
  515. 16:41Therefore, you can't say that if a car
  516. 16:43has fewer parts, it's easier to develop
  517. 16:45than a car with more parts. Well, in
  518. 16:47that case, an off-roader. The question
  519. 16:49is always the budget that the company
  520. 16:50allocates to you—say, 10 million
  521. 16:52dollars—and you have to fit into that
  522. 16:53. The guys make the first sketches, and
  523. 16:57if those sketches match potential buyer
  524. 17:00interest, companies or dealers start
  525. 17:02appearing and demanding, saying, "Yeah,
  526. 17:05we need 1,000 of these here in Uganda."
  527. 17:08"We are ready to buy 1,000 units from
  528. 17:09you." And you're like, "Oh, okay,
  529. 17:11sounds good." Our theoretical business
  530. 17:13model starts to align with reality. It
  531. 17:15gradually, well, settles in somehow,
  532. 17:17and we can indeed allocate these funds.
  533. 17:19Or not? Or you just use these small
  534. 17:21experiments to test reality, realize
  535. 17:23there's no answer, no demand, and you
  536. 17:25kill the project at an early stage. Why
  537. 17:27did I bring up the Logan as an example?
  538. 17:30Because back in the day, the guys
  539. 17:32understood from the very beginning that
  540. 17:34if they released a car for under 10,000
  541. 17:37dollars—or maybe 5,000 or 8,000 euros
  542. 17:39, it was something like that. Uh, that
  543. 17:42exact budget. They knew for sure they
  544. 17:45could sell an unimaginable volume and
  545. 17:48recoup everything. But for the car to
  546. 17:50cost that much, you have to spend very
  547. 17:52little money on development and initial
  548. 17:54testing. Because you can spend a long,
  549. 17:57tedious time refining a car to
  550. 17:59perfection. But if you spend too much
  551. 18:01money on the development process, you
  552. 18:03simply won't earn it back later. You'll
  553. 18:05have too small a profit margin per
  554. 18:07individual car.
  555. 18:08I take it you also need to set aside a
  556. 18:09portion of the funds in case you end up
  557. 18:11having a recall campaign for some
  558. 18:12reason?
  559. 18:13Of course, you don’t need to account
  560. 18:15for it, but in any case, a recall
  561. 18:17campaign hits your budget hard. If your
  562. 18:18entire project ends up being
  563. 18:19unprofitable, then you’ve just been
  564. 18:21working for nothing.
  565. 18:22By the way, there’s an excellent
  566. 18:23counter-case that was less successful.
  567. 18:24A little car like this one. This is the
  568. 18:26Tata Nano. Back in the late 2000s, Tata
  569. 18:29decided that the Indian market would
  570. 18:31benefit from something. Well, there was
  571. 18:34a need for an ultra-cheap car, the
  572. 18:36cheapest one possible. They already had
  573. 18:38four-meter-long cars. But what if they
  574. 18:40made something to replace the local
  575. 18:42scooters? So they built this thing with
  576. 18:44a motorcycle engine. The cheapest
  577. 18:46version cost about 250,000–300,000
  578. 18:48rubles. There. A little car like that.
  579. 18:50They produced about 200,000-plus of
  580. 18:52them. It failed by Tata's standards
  581. 18:55because Indians much preferred buying
  582. 18:57more accessible scooters. That’s how
  583. 19:00it turned out. For the money they could
  584. 19:01have spent on the car, they just bought
  585. 19:03cool motorcycles instead. I know that
  586. 19:05case too, yes. And in the case of Tata,
  587. 19:07they missed the audience's expectations
  588. 19:09; they did poor preparatory work to
  589. 19:11understand if people would actually buy
  590. 19:13it or not. With the Logan, it worked
  591. 19:15out; with this thing, it didn't work
  592. 19:17out. I think it’s the same thing here
  593. 19:19. The guys are just testing; they’re
  594. 19:21just throwing an idea into the market,
  595. 19:22like "look, we're thinking about this,"
  596. 19:23and they’ll measure the effect later.
  597. 19:27But potentially it’s a very cool
  598. 19:29thing, because again, Toyota has
  599. 19:30consistently pursued what the market
  600. 19:32theoretically needs in large volumes
  601. 19:34for many years. They are huge pros,
  602. 19:38they don't forget that there's not only
  603. 19:41London and Munich, and New York and
  604. 19:43California, but that there are a huge
  605. 19:45number of people all over the planet
  606. 19:47who just need a normal, simple, most
  607. 19:49budget-friendly car to perform their
  608. 19:51harsh tasks in very harsh conditions.
  609. 19:54And they are trying to fully push in
  610. 19:56there, hit, capture the audience, and
  611. 19:58capture the market there. They are
  612. 20:00doing a great job. No one will ever
  613. 20:01catch up to them.
  614. 20:02Say they're doing a great job one more
  615. 20:04time.
  616. 20:04Toyota is doing a great job.
  617. 20:05Oh, how nice. Second episode. Yeah,
  618. 20:07really.
  619. 20:08Volkswagen. That’s it.
  620. 20:10Oh, how nice.
  621. 20:13So where’s the contradiction? Why did
  622. 20:14you suddenly start feeling good about
  623. 20:16it? I’ve been saying the same thing
  624. 20:17for 3 years now. How?
  625. 20:18No, it's just that when you repeat it,
  626. 20:19it’s even......music to my ears.
  627. 20:22It's like telling a girl she's
  628. 20:24beautiful.
  629. 20:25The Telegram channel started with that
  630. 20:27video once, where you say that Toyota
  631. 20:28is the best car on the planet. Yes, yes
  632. 20:30, yes. When we made a bet, you lost,
  633. 20:32and you said that Toyota is the best
  634. 20:34car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, that
  635. 20:36happened, it happened. But I wasn't
  636. 20:38against that statement from the
  637. 20:39beginning.
  638. 20:40Whoops.
  639. 20:40Not the best car, the best company. The
  640. 20:43car is under question, a very big one.
  641. 20:45Well yeah, but in the video itself you
  642. 20:47played it so you’d say they’re the
  643. 20:48best cars on the planet.
  644. 20:49Yes. Yeah. Well, for us, it's
  645. 20:51entertainment in general. Doro goes
  646. 20:52around saying they're the best cars on
  647. 20:54the planet. It’s just local
  648. 20:56entertainment for fools, damn it. Tesla
  649. 20:59ended up in the center of a scandal due
  650. 21:01to autopilot issues. They don't have
  651. 21:03any issues with the autopilot. What's
  652. 21:04the catch? They quietly, little by
  653. 21:07little, went and brought back the Mad
  654. 21:09Max mode in the car. Before that, some
  655. 21:13time ago, as soon as FSD started
  656. 21:14appearing, they came up with the idea
  657. 21:16that their autopilot could drive the
  658. 21:17car in different modes. And, well, like
  659. 21:21, you can drive just like a grandpa, or
  660. 21:23you can drive like Mad Max.
  661. 21:25Uh-huh.
  662. 21:26Just like a fool. Well, Mad Max. Have
  663. 21:28you seen the movie? There.
  664. 21:29Searching for gasoline,
  665. 21:30yeah. There. What unsuccessful searches
  666. 21:36they will have in the end. Naturally,
  667. 21:39at some point there was a big outcry
  668. 21:41that, how can it be, the autopilot
  669. 21:42starts driving the car too aggressively
  670. 21:44, the company removed it, but now with
  671. 21:45the latest updates it has appeared on
  672. 21:47cars again. And you can turn on Mad Max
  673. 21:49mode, and the car will go faster.
  674. 21:52Sometimes even ignoring traffic rules,
  675. 21:54ignoring red traffic lights, just
  676. 21:56starting off, and on autopilot too. It
  677. 21:59really runs red lights.
  678. 22:01Yes, it just blows them off and drives
  679. 22:03however it sees fit. Well
  680. 22:04it sees what’s on the left and right,
  681. 22:05right? No, the car sees green.
  682. 22:07What do you mean it sees? Well
  683. 22:08like this. And besides, well, naturally
  684. 22:10, complaints to the NHTSA started
  685. 22:11immediately. The NHTSA is like, "What
  686. 22:14on earth is happening?"
  687. 22:15I just saw a video where a Tesla cuts
  688. 22:17across a solid line to merge left to
  689. 22:20turn left. And most likely that wasn't
  690. 22:22this mode, but it was on autopilot, but
  691. 22:24to run a red light.
  692. 22:24Well, it can do that now. And it seems
  693. 22:27a scandal is starting. It seems the
  694. 22:29NHTSA is getting worked up about Tesla
  695. 22:31again. There haven't been any
  696. 22:32consequences or official comments yet.
  697. 22:34We are watching how events develop. But
  698. 22:36, of course, this is a very strange
  699. 22:38move and a strange PR stunt. Tesla has
  700. 22:41always been famous for its PR. We’ve
  701. 22:43been doing automotive news for, what, 6
  702. 22:45years now, give or take a kilometer.
  703. 22:47Tesla is always in the headlines,
  704. 22:49whether something is happening with
  705. 22:50them or not, they manage to regularly
  706. 22:52and constantly get into every possible
  707. 22:54headline. I suspect this is also just
  708. 22:56politics, so people don’t forget
  709. 22:57about them, keep talking, mentioning
  710. 22:59them, all that stuff. Well, damn, I
  711. 23:00think that’s crossing the line
  712. 23:01already.
  713. 23:02I don’t know. I think Nikita, our
  714. 23:04cameraman, set it up.
  715. 23:05Maybe, maybe, maybe.
  716. 23:07Well, the red light is too much. Like,
  717. 23:10extremely too much.
  718. 23:11Both the red light and speeding, and
  719. 23:13ignoring the road markings. Just like
  720. 23:14that. But in the mode where there’s a
  721. 23:16road, we just went for it.
  722. 23:17Well, they’ll definitely end up
  723. 23:18causing another accident eventually.
  724. 23:2014 accidents have already been provoked
  725. 23:22and 23 people have been injured. Well,
  726. 23:25at least our data shows that in "Mad
  727. 23:26Max" mode.
  728. 23:28But it’s not the person in the Tesla,
  729. 23:30so get lost.
  730. 23:32It’s safe. "We don’t feel sorry for
  731. 23:34Tesla drivers," the company replied.
  732. 23:35And that’s how it is. At the same
  733. 23:37time, a video blew up on the internet.
  734. 23:38Well, not blew up, someone was falling,
  735. 23:40and the video blew up. A Tesla barely
  736. 23:42dodged a crashing airplane. Fans think
  737. 23:44it was the autopilot’s doing, but
  738. 23:46what really happened? Here’s the
  739. 23:48video. A guy is just driving on the
  740. 23:49highway, minding his own business. Then
  741. 23:51suddenly a plane dives right in front
  742. 23:52of his nose. Something went wrong for
  743. 23:54the guys in the plane. Thankfully, they
  744. 23:56landed just fine. Two people are alive,
  745. 23:58everything is good. Nobody got hurt.
  746. 23:59Just like, "Wow,
  747. 24:00show us Axaro."
  748. 24:01Yeah, Aktar loves that stuff.
  749. 24:03That was me in the plane. I dove at the
  750. 24:07Tesla, but it swerved away. Oh, and the
  751. 24:11autopilot supposedly did that.
  752. 24:13And people in the comments started
  753. 24:15spreading that it was the autopilot,
  754. 24:16because there is no official info that
  755. 24:18the autopilot was actually on. On the
  756. 24:20contrary, the original videos even have
  757. 24:21info that the autopilot was off. And
  758. 24:23then, when the media got involved, they
  759. 24:25found the owner and asked, "So,
  760. 24:26what’s up with that?" He was like, "
  761. 24:28Well, I’m just driving."
  762. 24:29I was in flight school,
  763. 24:33turned, straightened out. I’ll be
  764. 24:37home on time.
  765. 24:42And that’s the pilot of the plane.
  766. 24:53Elon Musk will leave the company Tesla
  767. 24:55if he doesn't get 1 trillion dollars.
  768. 24:57Because you shouldn't be opening your
  769. 24:58mouth on the runway.
  770. 25:04Well, we opened the second one there.
  771. 25:06Well, we originally opened the first
  772. 25:07one there on the runway. This place is
  773. 25:09essentially the birthplace of the
  774. 25:11runway.
  775. 25:11It took off from there, brother, and
  776. 25:14now it’s landed back there again.
  777. 25:16Damn, that’s cool. You know,
  778. 25:17they’ll have a service like in GTA,
  779. 25:19driving under a plane at the airport,
  780. 25:22yeah, and then at some point they’ll
  781. 25:24just stand there, damn.
  782. 25:25we also bring in, like, we give you a
  783. 25:26little helicopter, and you go into the
  784. 25:27building with that helicopter there. No
  785. 25:29, no, you know when there's like an
  786. 25:31open house event, you do something like
  787. 25:33that, and there's a plane flying by
  788. 25:35with a huge advertising banner trailing
  789. 25:37behind it, just a plane flying by with
  790. 25:39"ratata" written on the banner. That
  791. 25:41would be cool.
  792. 25:42We'll think about it. I need, I really
  793. 25:44need to tell Tokha about this.
  794. 25:45Oh,
  795. 25:47maybe we could pull something like that
  796. 25:48off. So, Elon Musk will leave Tesla if
  797. 25:51he doesn't get 1 trillion dollars. This
  798. 25:54is not Musk's official stance. It was
  799. 25:57Robyn Denholm, the chair of Tesla's
  800. 25:59board, who sent a letter to
  801. 26:01shareholders, major investors, and so
  802. 26:03on, saying look, we talked about paying
  803. 26:06Elon 1 trillion dollars if we reach
  804. 26:08certain milestones. I know this is a
  805. 26:12sensitive issue and that we have to
  806. 26:14resolve it and approve this
  807. 26:15compensation package at the upcoming
  808. 26:17shareholder vote and all that. But in
  809. 26:21the current climate, right now, in
  810. 26:23these uncertain times, losing a genius,
  811. 26:25a visionary like Elon Musk, a man with
  812. 26:27such unparalleled intuition, would be a
  813. 26:30huge mistake. So, let's definitely
  814. 26:33approve the compensation package for
  815. 26:35our great and respected leader. If we
  816. 26:38reach a market cap of 8.5 trillion
  817. 26:39dollars, then, naturally, we will pay
  818. 26:41Musk in shares, and everything will be
  819. 26:43fine. Let's do it that way, because
  820. 26:45without him, we won't reach that goal.
  821. 26:48And, well, the figure is generally okay
  822. 26:50, and this isn't investment advice, but
  823. 26:52from my point of view, Tesla is an
  824. 26:54overvalued company; it's currently
  825. 26:56worth 0.5 trillion, they want to get to
  826. 26:580.8, and if they reach that, Musk gets
  827. 27:00paid in, well, shares. But a trillion
  828. 27:03is still, essentially, almost the
  829. 27:05entire current market cap of the
  830. 27:07company. This is a very interesting
  831. 27:09scam. It's unclear how they could
  832. 27:11possibly achieve that kind of
  833. 27:12capitalization. And they don't really
  834. 27:13know themselves, because, well, the
  835. 27:15electric vehicle business is, you know.
  836. 27:18And all that is crumbling for them, and
  837. 27:20their future development—as they see
  838. 27:21it—is in robots, AI, and somewhere
  839. 27:23out there in services, robotaxis,
  840. 27:25personal assistants, god knows what
  841. 27:27else; they're trying to patch together
  842. 27:28a business model right now. And without
  843. 27:31Musk, figuring out what to do next
  844. 27:33won't be possible, says the chair of
  845. 27:35the board of directors.
  846. 27:36Imagine if they rolled out an internal
  847. 27:37combustion engine. Well, that would be
  848. 27:40a brilliant angle, I think, if they
  849. 27:42rolled out an ICE, if there were some
  850. 27:45behind-the-scenes duties for
  851. 27:47development and so on.
  852. 27:48Well, our attitude will change.
  853. 27:51I have no [ __ ] clue. It’s, well,
  854. 27:54it’s like, you know, sort of, uh,
  855. 27:56like if a buddy of yours went and
  856. 27:58transitioned into a woman, and then
  857. 28:00turned back. Sort of like the same
  858. 28:02buddy. Oh,
  859. 28:04well, you,
  860. 28:04well, there’s a nuance. Well, you,
  861. 28:06well, you liked it when he was in the
  862. 28:08middle. Turns out he betrayed
  863. 28:17Dimon.
  864. 28:20Man, imagine if they perfect the
  865. 28:22autopilot just as they roll out an ICE
  866. 28:25vehicle, and all the headlines are just
  867. 28:27"Tesla on ICE is safer" one after
  868. 28:29another.
  869. 28:30They’ll make it, yeah, with an ICE
  870. 28:32engine, with LiDAR, with all that
  871. 28:33normal stuff. It will end up being a
  872. 28:35Golf. No, but seriously. Tesla is in a
  873. 28:38tough spot, it's unclear where to take
  874. 28:41it from here. Musk needs to be retained
  875. 28:43simply as an asset. Not just for PR,
  876. 28:45but also for his political, government,
  877. 28:47and networking connections—all that
  878. 28:49stuff—this guy needs to be kept on
  879. 28:51board. Besides, it seems the contract
  880. 28:53states that if we don't hit the target
  881. 28:55benchmarks, then there won't be any
  882. 28:57bonus at all. Musk had that before.
  883. 28:59He’s had many iterations of his
  884. 29:00contracts. They always gave him options
  885. 29:03for certain achievements, and it worked
  886. 29:06. But now the goals are just so
  887. 29:08incredibly ambitious. I mean, just so
  888. 29:10you understand, Apple’s market cap
  889. 29:12right now the most expensive company in
  890. 29:14the world is Nvidia, and its market cap
  891. 29:16is 5 trillion.
  892. 29:17That’s
  893. 29:18the one out of all of them,
  894. 29:19the most expensive company in human
  895. 29:21history,
  896. 29:22right? And Apple has 3.98 trillion
  897. 29:24dollars.
  898. 29:25So what is Toyota’s market cap then?
  899. 29:28Elon Musk will likely get a bonus worth
  900. 29:30more than Toyota’s entire market cap.
  901. 29:32Why not Toyota? The richest company in
  902. 29:35the world.
  903. 29:37Last year it was 305 billion.
  904. 29:39Why?
  905. 29:40If Tesla hits these absolutely
  906. 29:42impossible targets, Musk will get stock
  907. 29:44worth the value of three Toyotas.
  908. 29:47Holy crap.
  909. 29:48He’ll go and buy out Toyota first
  910. 29:51thing.
  911. 29:52He’ll go and at least buy himself a
  912. 29:54normal car.
  913. 29:55No, he’ll buy the whole company. Yeah
  914. 29:57, yeah, yeah. Yes,
  915. 29:58he’ll show up to the office with his
  916. 29:59bathroom sink again.
  917. 30:01What is that even about?
  918. 30:03No, then it’ll be a bucket.
  919. 30:04No, that’s how he walked into Twitter
  920. 30:06.
  921. 30:06I know. So, he’ll walk into an auto
  922. 30:08company with his own bucket.
  923. 30:09Oh, then he should buy Volkswagen.
  924. 30:11That’s true, with that money he could
  925. 30:13buy Toyota, Volkswagen, Subaru, and
  926. 30:14just everyone...
  927. 30:16And then he’ll put it on the table
  928. 30:18and say "fight."
  929. 30:19No, seriously, at this rate, even if he
  930. 30:20doesn’t hit the targets, he’ll be
  931. 30:22like: "Alright, I’ll just go buy
  932. 30:23Volkswagen.""Okay, I..."
  933. 30:25So be it, you’ve convinced me. I have
  934. 30:26enough with just a Polo for now,
  935. 30:29since the Volkswagen Polo sedan is the
  936. 30:31best car on the planet.
  937. 30:37Alright, since we were passing by
  938. 30:39Toyota, Geely is adopting Toyota's
  939. 30:41experience for a breakthrough with
  940. 30:42gasoline cars. Not "a beer for a
  941. 30:44breakthrough," but Toyota's experience
  942. 30:46in building combustion engine cars.
  943. 30:47What's the point? Toyota is currently
  944. 30:49the number one automaker. They produce
  945. 30:51more cars in the world than any other
  946. 30:53automotive company. Geely is riding the
  947. 30:56wings of its 2024 success, when they
  948. 30:58produced over three million cars, 3.35
  949. 31:00million, if I recall correctly. Now
  950. 31:02they are ahead of schedule. They plan
  951. 31:05to make 3.2 million, or even more, cars
  952. 31:07this year, which essentially places
  953. 31:09them in the top-tier rank immediately.
  954. 31:11No, they are already top 10, they
  955. 31:12entered the top ten back in 2020,
  956. 31:13right? Yes. So, they broke into the top
  957. 31:1610 back in 2020.
  958. 31:17And if they succeed, they will overtake
  959. 31:19Nissan and Honda, as I understand it,
  960. 31:21yes. And now the guys are already
  961. 31:24looking at the podium, looking at
  962. 31:26Toyota. And not only does Geely have a
  963. 31:28large number of interesting projects
  964. 31:30with Renault at the moment, like the
  965. 31:32modular engine we discussed, but they
  966. 31:34also bought 26%of Renault's Mexican
  967. 31:36division. And since we haven't
  968. 31:38discussed this news, let's include it
  969. 31:40right here. New green Renault models
  970. 31:43will get a Geely platform. This is
  971. 31:45precisely about Geely buying 26%of
  972. 31:47Renault's Mexican division. And in this
  973. 31:51way, Geely plans to expand its presence
  974. 31:52in South America, while Renault gains
  975. 31:54access to Geely's technologies. In
  976. 31:56short, the two companies are gradually
  977. 31:58expanding their cooperation, as they
  978. 32:00previously collaborated on modular
  979. 32:02engines. Before that, there were rumors
  980. 32:04that the guys were working on a shared
  981. 32:05platform. And it was quite a shock at
  982. 32:08the time when Renault, without
  983. 32:10consulting Nissan and Mitsubishi,
  984. 32:11unilaterally decided, "By the way, I'm
  985. 32:13working with Geely." If you weren't
  986. 32:16aware, Renault is not an independent
  987. 32:18company; it's a part of the
  988. 32:19Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance. But
  989. 32:21without asking their alliance partners,
  990. 32:23they just went ahead and started
  991. 32:24collaborating with Geely unilaterally.
  992. 32:27And against the backdrop of all these
  993. 32:29wonderful projects, Geely says they
  994. 32:31plan to learn from Toyota, adopting
  995. 32:33best practices and understanding their
  996. 32:35production philosophy. We like their
  997. 32:37strategy of being involved in
  998. 32:39everything. And they are primarily
  999. 32:41focused on combustion engines and
  1000. 32:42hybrids, but they haven't forgotten
  1001. 32:44about electric vehicles either. They
  1002. 32:46are developing them there too, but they
  1003. 32:48don't give 100%preference to any single
  1004. 32:49type of engine. We like that. We also
  1005. 32:52plan to develop things the same way:
  1006. 32:54having electric cars, regular ICE cars,
  1007. 32:57hybrids, and all possible technologies.
  1008. 32:59Because we, as Geely, are already a big
  1009. 33:01company: we have Volvo, we have Zeekr,
  1010. 33:03we have Polestar, and we have just
  1011. 33:05about everyone now. We’ve built up a
  1012. 33:08large amount of expertise, so
  1013. 33:10theoretically, we could take on Toyota
  1014. 33:12in the next 10 years.
  1015. 33:14What?
  1016. 33:15Exactly.
  1017. 33:16Yeah. Well,
  1018. 33:17but they still have a long way to go to
  1019. 33:18reach Stellantis and VAG, even
  1020. 33:20Stellantis and VAG are far off. They
  1021. 33:22need to at least double their
  1022. 33:23production capacity to even catch up to
  1023. 33:25the dying Volkswagen.
  1024. 33:26Well, Volkswagen is still second in the
  1025. 33:27rankings, after all. Second by
  1026. 33:29Yes, they produce an average of 6
  1027. 33:31million cars a year.
  1028. 33:32And third place is Hyundai-Kia.
  1029. 33:33Fourth is...Yes.
  1030. 33:34They won't catch up, you know. Why?
  1031. 33:36Because Musk will buy Toyota and Toyota
  1032. 33:38will be no more.
  1033. 33:40Go out at the peak. Yes.
  1034. 33:47It’s clear that these are just goals
  1035. 33:49and ambitions of the company's
  1036. 33:50management for now, because it would be
  1037. 33:51strange if they came out and said, "We
  1038. 33:53want to be top four or top three?" A
  1039. 33:55strange goal.
  1040. 33:57Top-three competitors in
  1041. 34:00among other automakers. Yeah, the guys
  1042. 34:03are obviously aiming for the top spot,
  1043. 34:05and good luck to them. But as for
  1044. 34:11someone who isn't aiming for anything
  1045. 34:13anymore, who’s already realized
  1046. 34:14everything and is just living their
  1047. 34:16best life, the new Jaguar GT is delayed
  1048. 34:18, but unfortunately, it won't be
  1049. 34:20getting any better. They promised us
  1050. 34:22the Jaguar GT in '25, now they're
  1051. 34:23saying, well, maybe '26; if you don't
  1052. 34:25happen to understand what we're talking
  1053. 34:27about, it's this magnificent car right
  1054. 34:29here. And it's a hilarious situation in
  1055. 34:32the sense that the Jaguar management,
  1056. 34:33first and foremost Rawdon Glover, the
  1057. 34:35current head of the company, constantly
  1058. 34:37goes to all events and tries to justify
  1059. 34:39it, saying, "No, no, don't worry, in
  1060. 34:41person the car actually looks really
  1061. 34:43cool." Everything is fine. Whatever you
  1062. 34:46see, all this internet hype, all those
  1063. 34:48photos and all that "boo-hoo," that's
  1064. 34:49all nonsense, because in person the car
  1065. 34:51looks just wonderful. It’s pretty
  1066. 34:54strange when the company's leadership
  1067. 34:56goes around making excuses to everyone
  1068. 34:58at every public event.
  1069. 35:00You said that with such an intonation,
  1070. 35:01as if he should have added, "And who is
  1071. 35:03your favorite Marvel character?"
  1072. 35:06The double irony here is that the
  1073. 35:08decision to kill all the company's
  1074. 35:10Jaguar developments, which were inching
  1075. 35:13along somehow, and to kill the
  1076. 35:15production of traditional Jaguar models
  1077. 35:17and so on. All of this was decided by
  1078. 35:20Thierry Bolloré. And this guy, who
  1079. 35:23worked at Renault for some time, was
  1080. 35:25then fired from there, went on to
  1081. 35:26handle Jaguar within Jaguar Land Rover,
  1082. 35:28decided that we’re killing all of
  1083. 35:30this, doing this GT thing instead, and
  1084. 35:32then he got fired. So the current
  1085. 35:35management and the current leadership
  1086. 35:37of the company are dealing with
  1087. 35:39decisions made before them. All the
  1088. 35:41marketing damage has been done, all the
  1089. 35:43PR damage has been done, the R&D is
  1090. 35:45buried, everything is buried. And
  1091. 35:48they’re like, "Well, it’s not all
  1092. 35:51that bad. It looks perfect in the metal
  1093. 35:56." We are a bit behind on the
  1094. 35:58development of this luxury electric car
  1095. 36:00of ours, which no one gives a crap
  1096. 36:02about anyway, because there is no
  1097. 36:03luxury electric car segment. It’s
  1098. 36:06shrinking, it doesn't exist. The market
  1099. 36:08is shrinking, the segment is shrinking,
  1100. 36:09the financial statements are shrinking,
  1101. 36:11everything is shrinking.
  1102. 36:12But hey, they’ll be the leaders in
  1103. 36:13the segment if you’re the only one in
  1104. 36:15the segment. Well, by the way, the
  1105. 36:18delay could also be due to the fact
  1106. 36:20that JLR recently had that hacker
  1107. 36:22attack which cost them many, many
  1108. 36:25millions,
  1109. 36:25yeah, and the fact that their plants
  1110. 36:27were idle for two months, or a month
  1111. 36:28and a half,
  1112. 36:29they need to get back on their feet now
  1113. 36:31,
  1114. 36:31well, they should try to even get on
  1115. 36:33their knees first. Let's put it this
  1116. 36:34way: they’ve been lying flat on the
  1117. 36:35floor for a long time.
  1118. 36:36Well, Land Rover was still making money
  1119. 36:37for them. It’s clear that the Jaguar
  1120. 36:40strategy is strange, because they were
  1121. 36:41late to everything; they didn't manage
  1122. 36:43to develop it, and now the electric
  1123. 36:44vehicle market is already gone. And
  1124. 36:46then this hack attack, talk about bad
  1125. 36:48luck.
  1126. 36:49Well, that doesn’t even matter,
  1127. 36:50because by the time the cyberattack
  1128. 36:52happened, Jaguar wasn't producing
  1129. 36:54anything anyway. As a separate division
  1130. 36:56, they didn't really care. So the
  1131. 36:57website isn't working, what's it to us?
  1132. 36:59Nobody calls us anyway. We aren't
  1133. 37:01needed by anyone anymore regardless.
  1134. 37:02Besides, that’s a very strange move.
  1135. 37:04Hello, my name is Delimkhan. Why isn't
  1136. 37:09everything fine there? And it’s such
  1137. 37:12a bizarre action to just go and bury it
  1138. 37:15. Yes, you didn't have many clients
  1139. 37:17before this, but Jaguar still had some
  1140. 37:19brand value, an audience, traditions;
  1141. 37:21it’s an ancient company. There is a
  1142. 37:24pool of people who would be willing to
  1143. 37:25buy anything, as long as it was
  1144. 37:27somewhat in line with the heritage or
  1145. 37:29style, and so on. They killed
  1146. 37:30everything completely. Now they’re
  1147. 37:32sitting there with this Jaguar GT.
  1148. 37:34It’s as if the company's management
  1149. 37:35decided to bet everything on red. But
  1150. 37:37it turned out to be zero. And all they
  1151. 37:40can do now is go around and make
  1152. 37:41excuses, like, well, when the GT comes
  1153. 37:43out, we don't even know what will
  1154. 37:45happen ourselves. They've lowered the
  1155. 37:49bar so much that wild fines for
  1156. 37:51producing ICE cars are finishing off
  1157. 37:52the European auto industry. First of
  1158. 37:54all, this is an article from our
  1159. 37:55beloved Avtovzglyad. We shouldn't
  1160. 37:57forget that. If you suddenly don't know
  1161. 37:58what Avtovzglyad is, rewatch the whole
  1162. 38:00channel. Just in case, well, it will be
  1163. 38:03useful for you. Well, the publication
  1164. 38:07highlights an article saying look, the
  1165. 38:09situation is getting worse every year,
  1166. 38:11because we remember that a long time
  1167. 38:13ago the European Commission adopted a
  1168. 38:15transition plan, well, specifically to
  1169. 38:17a certain emission level. And if a car
  1170. 38:20manufacturer doesn't meet the emission
  1171. 38:22standards for their production, for
  1172. 38:24their average, for their model range—
  1173. 38:25there are different calculation methods
  1174. 38:27, it doesn't matter. If they don't meet
  1175. 38:30it, we fine them. Or they can buy
  1176. 38:33quotas from a green company like Tesla
  1177. 38:34or some carbon-neutral company and
  1178. 38:36continue living in peace. We've talked
  1179. 38:38about this regarding ecology, and we've
  1180. 38:39talked about it in many other places in
  1181. 38:41general, that this whole story is just
  1182. 38:42about, well, like making some amount of
  1183. 38:43money. And nobody has canceled this
  1184. 38:45line yet. And every year the fines get
  1185. 38:48bigger and bigger. And right now,
  1186. 38:50someone like Volkswagen, not only is
  1187. 38:52their entire financial report being
  1188. 38:53torn apart because, well, production
  1189. 38:55isn't clicking, energy prices are very
  1190. 38:57high, trade wars, logistics, having to
  1191. 38:59move factories, and all that nonsense.
  1192. 39:01But at the same time, they also have to
  1193. 39:03pay fines.
  1194. 39:03Some kind of Vatican tax.
  1195. 39:05And all the auto concerns currently in
  1196. 39:07Europe, they could collectively be on
  1197. 39:09the hook for 3.5 billion euros in net
  1198. 39:11cash. Just take it out of the till and
  1199. 39:13hand it over. In the form of fines,
  1200. 39:15because they aren't meeting the CO2
  1201. 39:16standards. Wait, and what if they meet
  1202. 39:18—well, if the car is produced for
  1203. 39:20export, does that also—well, still
  1204. 39:22they must have an average model range
  1205. 39:24indicator,
  1206. 39:24so that on average all the cars you
  1207. 39:26released must, well, have a certain
  1208. 39:28level of emissions. Specifically in
  1209. 39:302025, this indicator should be 93.6
  1210. 39:33grams per kilometer. Well, of some
  1211. 39:35particles there. In 2020, the target
  1212. 39:37indicator was set at 95 grams per
  1213. 39:39kilometer.
  1214. 39:40Wait, and just now you mentioned a
  1215. 39:42number,
  1216. 39:4393, 93.5, right? Ah, and it's already
  1217. 39:45by this much
  1218. 39:46and it is gradually, gradually
  1219. 39:47narrowing. And this reduction in
  1220. 39:49targets was calculated based on the
  1221. 39:50assumption that by this current year,
  1222. 39:522025, a lot of electric vehicles would
  1223. 39:54be sold, a market for them would be
  1224. 39:56established, everything would be great,
  1225. 39:58everything would be fine, and a larger
  1226. 40:00number of cars would be electric. So
  1227. 40:02the fact that you might be producing
  1228. 40:03some commercial equipment with an
  1229. 40:05internal combustion engine or some
  1230. 40:07budget cars still produced with these
  1231. 40:09small ICE engines, that’s fine. You
  1232. 40:11will still be able to lower your
  1233. 40:13average emissions rating across your
  1234. 40:15vehicles. But somehow, there hasn't
  1235. 40:18been an increase in electric vehicles.
  1236. 40:20There hasn't been an increase. Well, I
  1237. 40:21mean, or rather, the electric vehicle
  1238. 40:23market is expanding and developing not
  1239. 40:25as fast as they would like. So it's not
  1240. 40:27the bureaucrats who are the jerks, it's
  1241. 40:29the car companies that are the jerks.
  1242. 40:31They aren't succeeding, hence the fines
  1243. 40:32.
  1244. 40:34This target is, in general, quite...
  1245. 40:35well, it's hard for even small cars to
  1246. 40:37reach. 93,
  1247. 40:40yeah. Euro 6 engines are 107, on
  1248. 40:42average 107-110. I mean, look, if we
  1249. 40:46take, say, a metric for comparison, a
  1250. 40:47Land Cruiser, for example, let's take
  1251. 40:49the Land Cruiser.
  1252. 40:51Let's look at the Land Cruiser and the
  1253. 40:53Prius, like those kinds of things.
  1254. 40:54Let's, let's look. Land Cruiser.
  1255. 40:57Doesn't it bother you that it's all
  1256. 40:58Toyota?
  1257. 40:58Whatever. Goodness,
  1258. 41:01let's just take a reference as it
  1259. 41:03should be.
  1260. 41:03The new Land Cruiser 250.
  1261. 41:06That's the Prado, in our terms.
  1262. 41:07Yes, the Prado, exactly. It has 236 g/
  1263. 41:10km.
  1264. 41:11Well, that's probably the gasoline one,
  1265. 41:12which is like a turbo engine and all
  1266. 41:14that.
  1267. 41:14Oh, excuse me, not 236, 244.
  1268. 41:16Uh-huh.
  1269. 41:17But it's still almost three times
  1270. 41:19higher, well,
  1271. 41:19yeah,
  1272. 41:20than the target that the model range
  1273. 41:22average should be. The current Toyota
  1274. 41:25Prius is 82 g/km.
  1275. 41:28Just produce all Priuses and everything
  1276. 41:30will be fine for five years.
  1277. 41:31Well, this is British, this is
  1278. 41:32specifically a British Prius.
  1279. 41:34It’s not a plug-in, not a PHEV.
  1280. 41:36Let's check now. This is
  1281. 41:39What if we invite the commission after
  1282. 41:41pre-installing outlets on all the cars?
  1283. 41:44Oh, boy.
  1284. 41:45That's exactly what they would say.
  1285. 41:47There's such a mountain of them here.
  1286. 41:49What are you talking about? Priuses,
  1287. 41:51right?
  1288. 41:52Well, they have
  1289. 41:5382 is the average for a Prius. And here
  1290. 41:57they have the breakdown by year and all
  1291. 41:59that.
  1292. 41:59It's not there.
  1293. 42:00How about the PHEV Prius?
  1294. 42:02Prius PHEV, yes.
  1295. 42:03The current 2025 model, 17 g/km. Oh,
  1296. 42:06well that’s probably if you plug it
  1297. 42:07in to charge all the time,
  1298. 42:08right? Well, we recently had news about
  1299. 42:11the fact that
  1300. 42:12Yes, yes, that a hybrid needs to be
  1301. 42:13charged from an outlet.
  1302. 42:14Testers think that's how it will be,
  1303. 42:15like people will always charge them.
  1304. 42:17The current hybrid, the regular one,
  1305. 42:20but the current model year, 110 g/km.
  1306. 42:23Unbelievable. Well, if the Prius can't
  1307. 42:26hit 93, then
  1308. 42:27that's the whole point, that your
  1309. 42:29rating of 90 is supposed to be the
  1310. 42:31average for the model line. For an
  1311. 42:33electric car, it's zero. You release an
  1312. 42:35electric car, and it's zero there.
  1313. 42:36Yeah. Yeah.
  1314. 42:37Well, 20 is zero. That's it. Not quite.
  1315. 42:40But in fact, you can just release a
  1316. 42:42huge number of tiny little electric
  1317. 42:44cars that you basically shove into the
  1318. 42:46price of a regular internal combustion
  1319. 42:48engine car. But overall, it
  1320. 42:50you're kind of buying two cars, one
  1321. 42:52just sits somewhere.
  1322. 42:54That's exactly how it's all happening
  1323. 42:55now, everyone is trying and wondering
  1324. 42:57how to even fit in, because these
  1325. 42:58restrictions don't align with reality.
  1326. 43:00And with the current automotive
  1327. 43:01industry, it, well, it can't keep
  1328. 43:03existing like this. So how everyone
  1329. 43:04will get out of this is unclear. But if
  1330. 43:07nothing changes, if the European
  1331. 43:09Commission doesn't release an
  1332. 43:10additional document or regulation,
  1333. 43:12automakers are going to get hit with
  1334. 43:143.2 billion euros in fines next year.
  1335. 43:16Not next year, based on this year's
  1336. 43:18results.
  1337. 43:18Well, I mean, they'll have to pay it
  1338. 43:20next year. They get hit this year, and
  1339. 43:22the fine is due next year, please pay
  1340. 43:24up.
  1341. 43:24Damn, and it turns out, with a PHEV,
  1342. 43:25you can't even measure how many times a
  1343. 43:27person charges it from a wall outlet
  1344. 43:28versus how many times they...
  1345. 43:29You can't measure it. That's exactly
  1346. 43:30the news we were discussing in the
  1347. 43:32Telegram channel. On paper, your PHEV
  1348. 43:34comes out like this, but in reality, it
  1349. 43:36turns out completely different because
  1350. 43:38nobody charges them and nobody uses
  1351. 43:40them correctly at all. Everyone just
  1352. 43:41drives them into the ground, that's it.
  1353. 43:43It turns out. A Li Auto, for example,
  1354. 43:45has emissions around 50g. But in
  1355. 43:47reality, because everyone runs them on
  1356. 43:49gas, it's much...
  1357. 43:50much higher, yeah. But I think Li
  1358. 43:52Auto's official rating is lower. Let's
  1359. 43:55see.
  1360. 43:55Li isn't a PHEV anymore, it's an EREV.
  1361. 43:58What is that? Range Extended Electric
  1362. 44:00Vehicle, that is, a series hybrid.
  1363. 44:02You've got everything mixed up in your
  1364. 44:04head. Totally.
  1365. 44:09It's got a range extender.
  1366. 44:11Since the car isn't European, they
  1367. 44:13don't have this listed anywhere. Only
  1368. 44:15Europeans are obsessed with this. Now
  1369. 44:18we're going to search in the marketing.
  1370. 44:20Whatever hieroglyph might be there.
  1371. 44:23What? Seriously? No. See, it's clear
  1372. 44:28what's important to the Chinese. They
  1373. 44:30care about things like autopilot, size,
  1374. 44:33seat ventilation, range. Now that looks
  1375. 44:36more like what people are actually
  1376. 44:37interested in regarding a car. Nobody
  1377. 44:39gives a damn about CO2. Where is it?
  1378. 44:42Well, it's less than that coal plant of
  1379. 44:44ours. So it's fine.
  1380. 44:46Actually, in the official presentation,
  1381. 44:47there's nothing about CO2. Absolutely
  1382. 44:49nothing at all.
  1383. 44:50Why do we need chemistry, brother? We
  1384. 44:52are doing physics here.
  1385. 44:54We are doing magic here. It drives by
  1386. 44:58itself. What is it if not magic? There
  1387. 45:01really isn't any. I'm digging through
  1388. 45:02the official materials. Airbags, body
  1389. 45:05structure. Yes. All the vision and
  1390. 45:08braking systems, everything is cool.
  1391. 45:11Installment plans, monitors on co,
  1392. 45:13there's just no info. There, you know,
  1393. 45:16there's 500 even officially,
  1394. 45:19more than the first Hummer.
  1395. 45:22In any case, the targets aren't being
  1396. 45:24met. Either way, they'll have to either
  1397. 45:27backpedal or issue fines. By the way,
  1398. 45:30in one of our previous news episodes,
  1399. 45:31we mentioned that the European
  1400. 45:32Commission was supposed to sit down and
  1401. 45:34reconsider the ICE ban. Nothing
  1402. 45:36happened. I later sat and dug through
  1403. 45:38all possible media outlets and so on.
  1404. 45:40Total silence. I didn't see any mention
  1405. 45:43that it happened, that it took place.
  1406. 45:46There is mention that it was supposed
  1407. 45:47to happen on November 1st or 2nd, here
  1408. 45:49and there, but nothing happened. So we
  1409. 45:50are watching. As soon as any official
  1410. 45:53EU documents surface, we will discuss
  1411. 45:55it with you immediately. And that's it
  1412. 46:00for this episode.
  1413. 46:01Damn, you promised a lot of Toyota news
  1414. 46:03. In the end, we would have only
  1415. 46:05covered one car.
  1416. 46:06Toyota showed a lot of things at the
  1417. 46:07Japan Mobility Show. We've actually
  1418. 46:10been putting this off for three
  1419. 46:11episodes, just because we get
  1420. 46:12distracted by something else. And so,
  1421. 46:14well, yeah,
  1422. 46:15we promised you, we promise you
  1423. 46:21in the spring, imagine, a review of all
  1424. 46:25the new Toyotas from Stas on Boosty.
  1425. 46:28Purely for the aesthetes.
  1426. 46:30Whoa, whoa, see,
  1427. 46:31is this the Boosty where only he will
  1428. 46:33be subscribed?
  1429. 46:35And he has a subsc
  1430. 46:36this will be, this is specifically
  1431. 46:38f-Boosty me, you know, this really
  1432. 46:40hurts me, like this.
  1433. 46:42Paid for by faces. You've got that
  1434. 46:45format now, where you watch a video and
  1435. 46:47comment on it. Right. Right.
  1436. 46:49Yes. Yes. Yes.
  1437. 46:50They show you a Toyota, and you comment
  1438. 46:52on it.
  1439. 46:52So, and the Polygon one won't be out
  1440. 46:53yet, right? By the time the rele
  1441. 46:55by this moment the Polygon still hasn't
  1442. 46:56come out, right? On Tuesday. Which week
  1443. 46:59? They wrote Spring 2025 there. They
  1444. 47:02should have written spring. Just
  1445. 47:06nothing teaches life yet. And there was
  1446. 47:12supposed to be a bumper here, but we
  1447. 47:14ran out of money. And people were like,
  1448. 47:16let's go. And the fines were just in
  1449. 47:21the loop. Ah.

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