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0:00Disclaimer. This video is for commentary
0:02and educational purposes only. All
0:04individuals are presumed innocent until
0:06proven guilty in a court of law.
0:08[snorts] Any footage used in this video
0:10is obtained through public records and
0:12falls under fair use for the purpose of
0:13reporting, analysis, and public
0:15interest.
0:16>> Do you want us to help you open it or
0:18you going to do it on your own? I'll
0:20>> do it on my own.
0:21>> Okay. Open then. Get back. Get on me,
0:23man. No. No. We you that getting off you
0:26time has passed. I feel like a move.
0:30>> In the early morning hours of February
0:3212th, 2022, [music]
0:33a routine overnight shift at a Witchah
0:35Falls convenience store turned deadly.
0:3851-year-old Floyd Morurell Kurt was
0:40working alone [music] behind the counter
0:42at a Stripes gas station on Southwest
0:44Parkway when he was shot and killed
0:46during an armed robbery. By the time
0:48police arrived, the suspect had already
0:50fled the scene. [music]
0:52Security footage would soon reveal a
0:54calculated encounter inside the store,
0:56giving investigators their first look at
0:58the man responsible.
1:00As detectives [music] followed leads and
1:02released images to the public, the focus
1:04quickly narrowed to [music] a former
1:06employee with knowledge of the store's
1:07layout and routines. The case would
1:10ultimately hinge on what happened after
1:12[music] the arrest inside a police
1:13interview room. This is the
1:15interrogation of Tajan Robinson.
1:18>> I was just walking around. So, you got
1:20put out at 10:00
1:23on Friday.
1:25AM or PM?
1:26>> PM.
1:27>> Okay. 10 o'clock PM.
1:29>> Yeah, that was a police game.
1:30>> And then you showed up at Tyrese's house
1:32at 500 a.m.
1:33>> Yes, sir.
1:34>> Okay. Where were you in between there?
1:37>> I was walking around trying to figure
1:38out where I'm stay cuz I didn't know he
1:40was at home.
1:40>> Where did you walk around at?
1:42>> I walked around over there by Taco Bell,
1:46behind a tattoo place.
1:49Well, that was it. Like over there on
1:52Avenue Case.
1:55>> Okay.
1:55>> Yes, sir.
1:57>> Did you talk to anybody?
1:59>> No, I don't like talking to people.
2:00>> Going any stores?
2:02>> No, sir.
2:05>> So, you were nowhere near Southwest
2:06Parkway and Taft?
2:08>> No, sir.
2:13>> Have you ever had a firearm?
2:15>> Yes, sir.
2:16>> You have? Yes, sir. Okay.
2:18Did you have a firearm when you went to
2:20Tyreek's house?
2:22>> Yes, sir.
2:23>> Okay. Where is that firearm now?
2:25>> I don't have it.
2:27>> I know you don't have it. My question
2:29is, where is it now?
2:30>> I don't know.
2:32>> What' you do with it?
2:33>> I left it down somewhere where somebody
2:35took it.
2:37>> Where did you leave it down at?
2:38>> I left it down his house.
2:40>> You left it in his house?
2:41>> Yes, sir.
2:42>> And somebody took it?
2:43>> With my bullets?
2:46>> What kind of gun was it?
2:49Not sure.
2:50>> Not sure.
2:51>> No. I got out the streets
2:54a man. I ain't know him.
2:58>> How long did you add it?
3:02>> [ __ ] About
3:05>> two weeks, I guess. Two weeks or a
3:08month. So,
3:10>> what did it look like?
3:11>> Just black.
3:16That's all you know about it?
3:18>> Yes, sir.
3:21>> You know what kind of bullets were in
3:22it?
3:23>> 380.
3:24>> Okay.
3:25>> A 380 Ruger. Matter of fact, now that I
3:27think about it.
3:28>> Okay. 380 Ruber.
3:29>> Yes, sir.
3:31>> Okay.
3:33Um, what does your phone look like?
3:37>> I got two phones.
3:39>> Okay.
3:41>> One HTC.
3:43>> Uhhuh.
3:44>> Another one that broke Android.
3:46Okay. And the broke Android doesn't work
3:49at all.
3:50>> It worked.
3:52>> It does.
3:52>> It worked. Yeah.
3:53>> Okay.
3:54>> Yes, sir.
3:54>> Uh, you have a phone number for both of
3:56them or how does that work?
3:59>> What you mean?
4:00>> Well, I asked your phone number and you
4:02said
4:02>> I know that's a it's a text app, but you
4:04know, it's on both phones. So, if you
4:07call either phone,
4:09>> I'm still going to pick up the phone.
4:11>> So, calling that number, both those
4:13phones ring.
4:14>> Yes, sir. Okay.
4:17Uh, who's your service with?
4:19>> It's a Text Now app.
4:21>> Text Now app?
4:22>> Yes, sir. On Wi-Fi.
4:24>> Okay.
4:24>> Yes, sir.
4:25>> It's a Wi-Fi only.
4:26>> Yes, sir.
4:28>> Okay. Um,
4:36so you walked around from 1000 p.m. to
4:405:00 a.m.
4:43and
4:44mainly in the Avenue K area.
4:49So, you're not going to that those
4:51phones are not going to
4:52>> pick up anywhere else.
4:53>> Pick up pick up on any Wi-Fi anywhere
4:56else in town. [snorts]
4:57>> No, sir. And definitely not anywhere
4:59near Southwest Parkway and TA.
5:01>> Yes, sir.
5:03>> Okay.
5:05>> Yes, sir.
5:07>> You're sure about that?
5:07>> I'm positive.
5:09I'm positive, sir.
5:12>> Um,
5:15where did you leave the gun in the
5:17house?
5:18>> I lived on the floor by the pillow.
5:20>> It's like his bed when you walk in his
5:23bed like right here.
5:24>> Mhm.
5:25>> I got like a pallet on the floor. So,
5:28I had tucked under my pillow.
5:31>> So you left it under the pillow.
5:33>> Yeah, the buzz was there.
5:34>> Mhm.
5:34>> But I don't know where the gun.
5:38>> Okay.
5:40So you left your gun under the pillow.
5:43When was that?
5:45>> What you mean?
5:46>> When When did you do that?
5:48>> Last night.
5:49>> Last night. Yes, sir.
5:51>> So you had it last night and now it's
5:53just gone.
5:56Anybody else in the house that you think
5:58might might have taken it?
6:01>> No.
6:04Okay.
6:13And you [snorts] understand how serious
6:15this is? Yes, sir.
6:16>> That if you're lying about any of this.
6:18>> I know. I understand how serious it is.
6:20Yes, sir.
6:22>> And that's the story you're going to
6:23stick with.
6:24>> Yes, sir.
6:29>> [clears throat]
6:29>> Are you willing to take a polygraph?
6:31>> What is that?
6:32>> It's a lie detector test. [laughter]
6:37>> I will. Yeah,
6:38>> you will.
6:38>> Yeah.
6:39>> Okay.
6:41>> Uh, are you willing to sign consent to
6:44searching on your phones?
6:46>> Consent to search?
6:47>> Mhm.
6:49>> Yes, sir. I will. Okay.
6:59talk to you for a second here.
7:24Okay. Uh, Taj.
7:27>> Yes, sir. Taj.
7:28>> Taj. Sorry about that.
7:30>> Oh, you're okay.
7:31>> Um,
7:34where are your uh uh black and white
7:38Nikes that uh Tiana gave you?
7:41>> I don't have them.
7:43>> Where are they?
7:44>> Gave them where?
7:46>> When? Who?
7:49When and who? I
7:51>> gave him one about a couple days ago.
7:53>> Okay.
7:54>> Yes, sir.
7:55>> Who Who's got them now?
7:57>> Who' you give,
7:57>> man? I traded it with the gun.
8:00>> Okay.
8:00>> Yeah. Did I have anything to trade for?
8:02>> Okay. What about the uh your gray work
8:05jacket?
8:06>> Gray work jacket?
8:08>> Mhm. Gray jacket you always wear to
8:10work?
8:11>> I don't wear a bra jacket to work. I
8:13wear this to work.
8:15>> No.
8:16We've talked to a lot of people.
8:18>> Yeah. Yes, sir.
8:20>> We know what kind of stuff you wear when
8:22you go to work.
8:23>> Yeah.
8:24>> You wear a gray work jacket.
8:26>> I don't have a gray work jacket. I had a
8:28navy blue jacket. Pull over.
8:32>> I have a gray work jacket.
8:34>> All right. Well, these are the photos
8:37that were put out to the news.
8:39We got multiple tips. Some of these
8:42people know you quite well.
8:46They describe this jacket as being what
8:48you wear when you go to work.
8:59And we understand if you
9:03were desperate, needed money, just got
9:05booted out of your apartment,
9:11might have just gone in there to hit
9:12lick. It's not me.
9:15store clerk tries to grab the gun to
9:17protect himself
9:19and you did what you did.
9:22If that's the case, let's get out in
9:24front of this.
9:28>> If you didn't go in there planning on
9:30killing somebody, but because the guy
9:32tried to grab the gun from you and you
9:35shot someone in self-defense,
9:38we don't think you went in there with
9:39the plan on killing somebody cuz it
9:41didn't happen that way. went in there
9:43because there's audio on those video
9:45cameras as well. So, we got a recording
9:46of the voice.
9:47>> Yes, sir.
9:48>> So, we got that recording. We got print
9:52DNA. Everything that you touched in
9:54there is going to leave your DNA deoxy
9:58your your genetic fingerprint
10:01>> on anything that was touched in there.
10:02>> Yeah, sir.
10:03>> Okay. So,
10:05we're we're in a spot right here. is did
10:07you do did you go in there with a plan
10:09to kill this guy or did you just want to
10:11go get some money like you were trying
10:12to figure out what you were going to do
10:14next? You just got put out on your rear
10:15end. You had no place to stay. No money
10:17in your pocket. You just wanted to get a
10:19little bit of money and if that guy
10:20would have complied, this would have
10:22never happened. But you're defending
10:24yourself when he comes at you at that
10:26point. We know what's up. You wouldn't
10:28be sitting here right now if we didn't
10:30know what happened. This is your
10:31opportunity to tell us. Did you plan to
10:33kill that guy or did it just happen in
10:35the blink of an eye? Was it an accident?
10:39It was an accident, wasn't it?
10:41>> Yes, sir.
10:42>> Okay.
10:44And then that's why you don't have the
10:46shoes that you were wearing there
10:47anymore or the jacket that you were
10:49wearing at the time cuz you got rid of
10:50them. You got scared when you ran off?
10:54What did you do with the other stuff?
10:56>> What stuff?
10:57>> This the stuff that you took from there.
10:59What happened to those things?
11:02>> I don't have them.
11:03>> What did you do with them?
11:05I [snorts] don't know. They probably
11:07dropped them. I don't got them, but I
11:09couldn't do nothing with them.
11:10>> Right.
11:12>> So, did you just drop them on the
11:14ground? I mean, we picked up some of
11:15them that were dropped on the ground.
11:16They're going to yield DNA cuz you
11:17weren't wearing any gloves.
11:18>> Yeah, I probably did drop them on the
11:20ground,
11:20>> but I don't.
11:21>> But what about the rest of them that
11:22were stuffed in your jacket?
11:23>> I don't go.
11:24>> Well, where did they go?
11:26>> They probably dropped on the ground,
11:27boss. I ain't going.
11:28>> Okay.
11:29>> They probably What about the the shoes,
11:31the jacket, the gun? Oh god.
11:36But don't tell us this. Don't Don't lie
11:38about these other things like I left it
11:40under my pillow and now it's missing cuz
11:42we've already talked to the others.
11:46>> We know a lot of the answers to the
11:47questions we're asking you before we ask
11:49it. We're just trying to figure out, are
11:52you a cold-blooded killer that runs
11:54around town looking for somebody to
11:55shoot and kill and steal? Or were you
11:57just a guy that was down on his luck,
11:59just got kicked out of the only place he
12:01had to live, didn't have any money for
12:03food, didn't have any way to get get
12:05around, and you were just trying to do
12:07something real quick. And if that guy
12:08would not, if he just would have
12:10complied, you'd have been out and he'd
12:12be alive right now, right? He wouldn't
12:15have died. You wouldn't have shot him if
12:17he just would have done what you asked,
12:18right?
12:23Do [clears throat] you even feel bad at
12:24all about how how things happened? I
12:26think you do. Cuz I cuz I think if you
12:29was a cold-blooded killer, you just
12:31would have walked up in there and as
12:32soon as you pulled the gun, you would
12:33have shot him. And then you would have
12:35went and did what you did.
12:37It wasn't until he lunged at you that
12:40you backed up and shot him.
12:46Do you feel bad about that at all?
12:50Why not?
12:51>> I do. I do.
12:52>> Oh, you do?
12:53>> But now's your chance to tell us.
13:01>> It's not going to change anything
13:02whether we go get the gun or whether we
13:04go get the scratchoff tickets or we get
13:05your jacket or we get your shoes. What
13:07it's going to do is it's going to
13:08demonstrate to other people that are
13:09going to hear your story one day and
13:12they're going to say, "He felt bad about
13:14what he did. He was remorseful and he
13:16was willing to take ownership of what he
13:18did because he didn't want it to happen
13:19that way. That wasn't his plan.
13:22And to prove that I'm being honest with
13:25you and that I didn't want this to go
13:27down this way. Here's what I did. Here's
13:29how it happened. This is why it
13:31happened.
13:34>> Here's where you can find these items
13:36that we're asking to find.
13:37>> If there's a gun out there that could
13:39hurt somebody else, honestly, I hear
13:41you. I hear you. Honest. Honestly,
13:44[snorts]
13:48I got to let go of my mistakes.
13:51Honestly,
13:54that's all I don't care about.
13:56I don't care.
13:58I did it. [snorts] I ain't mean to hurt
14:01him.
14:05Shut up. I'm gone.
14:08All right. No, I'm gone. Sure.
14:11>> Right. But if there's a gun out there
14:13right now that could hurt some kid or or
14:16somebody else make a bad decision with
14:18it, help us get it back so it ain't
14:21going to hurt nobody else.
14:23>> Nobody got that gun.
14:24>> Where is it then? [snorts]
14:27>> I threw it away.
14:29>> Where did you throw it away? Cuz we we
14:31going to be searching for a long long
14:33long time.
14:34>> No, nobody got that gun. I don't even
14:37have it. We're not going to get near
14:40that gun.
14:41>> Why won't we?
14:42>> You ain't got a car. Would you take it
14:44with you when you went to work in Quana
14:45today?
14:46>> If I did, you would know cuz y'all knew
14:49I was at work and I knew y'all knew I
14:51was at work. That's where I went cuz I
14:53knew y'all were going to follow me the
14:55whole day. I knew everything happened. I
14:57heard when y'all pulled up and down. And
14:59when I walked outside, I knew what game
15:01it was. Of course you would because you
15:04knew what had happened, what you had
15:06done, and you felt bad about it. Has it
15:08been bothering you?
15:10>> It bothered me. But you know,
15:14did you tell Tyreek that it bothered
15:16you?
15:17>> I don't tell people nothing. I keep
15:20everything to myself. That's why
15:22I hold stuff in cuz I don't trust nobody
15:26but me. That's why sometime I do wrong,
15:30make the wrong decision. I put my trust
15:32in the wrong people
15:34and leave me a situation.
15:37But you know,
15:39>> and we ain't trying to get them in
15:40trouble.
15:40>> I already know. Like they they good.
15:42They good. Like I don't even care. Like
15:44I don't care about that.
15:46>> Yeah. We ain't trying to charge them up
15:47with something. But
15:48>> I'm already knowing what it is. Like
15:50it's just like like you can feel
15:53somebody ain't real. You can feel
15:55somebody fake. Ain't slow. Never been
15:58slow. Stupid maybe.
16:01But slow. No.
16:04>> Is there a reason why you picked that
16:06store?
16:08>> Yeah.
16:10>> Why is that?
16:10>> I used to work there.
16:12>> Okay. Did you know the clerk?
16:14>> No.
16:17>> When did you work there?
16:20>> Couple years ago. Few years ago. A while
16:23back.
16:24>> Okay. Did you quit or get fired?
16:28>> I got terminated.
16:30for
16:31>> uh leaving too much cash in the
16:33register.
16:34>> Okay.
16:36>> Okay.
16:38Um
16:40was it that store that you worked at or
16:43a different location?
16:45>> It was that store.
16:47>> Okay.
16:52>> And are these the pants you were wearing
16:54that day or did you get rid of them too?
16:57>> [snorts]
16:58>> No, I got these from a friend of mine. I
17:00had no clothes.
17:02>> Is this the blue hoodie you wore
17:03underneath the gray jacket? [snorts]
17:05>> No.
17:06>> Where's that hoodie at then?
17:07>> I don't got it. No.
17:09>> What' you do with it?
17:12>> Threw it away.
17:13>> Okay.
17:14>> Where?
17:20>> I don't remember. But I threw it away. I
17:23threw away in the dumpster
17:25>> that night on the way over to
17:29>> the next day. Tariq's house.
17:30>> Next day behind Tariq's house in that
17:32dumpster.
17:33>> No,
17:34>> a different one.
17:34>> Yeah, a different one. I don't remember.
17:36I was walking around Avenue K.
17:39>> Okay.
17:40>> Walk us through
17:42h how where you're at when you decide,
17:45you know, hey, this is what I'm going to
17:46do. I'm just going to get a little bit
17:48of money and maybe buy something to eat
17:50or get a hotel room. I mean, what was
17:52the plan to do? Use the money for
17:55>> The plan was to go back home.
17:59>> Where's home?
18:00>> Memphis.
18:00>> So, to get enough money for a bus ticket
18:02or something?
18:03>> Try to go back home. Yeah, that was my
18:05plan. I already know I went down here. I
18:08was I was meant to be down here.
18:10>> So, what did you do when you got to the
18:12store?
18:15>> I got to the store.
18:19walked in,
18:23went to the back,
18:30walked, went to the counter.
18:35I asked for a pack of cig.
18:44He said, "All right.
18:47[snorts]
18:52side.
19:05It's crazy here though.
19:13I know what come with your life.
19:16[snorts]
19:16like I don't got nobody. So
19:21like I sacrifice
19:24I sacrifice myself
19:26do what I can do
19:30and I know it's a waste of my life
19:35gone
19:37thank you
19:39it's crazy cuz walking
19:42was stormy
19:45God was trying to tell me turn around
19:48I had a devil on my that I don't want to
19:50listen at this point where I'm going to
19:54go can be around somebody that really
19:56don't want me at the house or going to
19:58kick me out again.
20:01I just can't keep doing it. Can't keep
20:03being around people kicking me out treat
20:05me like nothing. When I'm showing too
20:07much love, when I'm working back of my
20:09back, they ain't doing
20:12so
20:14[snorts]
20:17left.
20:19Once I got kicked out from old girl, I
20:22left.
20:25I was mad.
20:28>> Did you think about hitting the lick
20:29right then or did you just start
20:31walking?
20:32>> I just started walking.
20:33>> Okay.
20:34>> I just started walking. try to get my
20:35one I think.
20:38So I was walking
20:44I think I walking Avenue K
20:49said he wanted
20:53>> Did you call him or text him? [snorts]
20:56>> Could had no phone.
21:01So did you go by there and that's how
21:03you knew he wasn't home or or what?
21:06>> When I went to his house? No, cuz he
21:09told me when we get out so I didn't go
21:10there. I take everybody for they work.
21:13So if he said he want to be home, I
21:14won't go over there.
21:16>> So
21:16>> Okay.
21:17>> So you walk, you just kept walking.
21:19>> Just kept walking, kept going straight.
21:21I kept going straight
21:25try to figure out what I was going to
21:26do.
21:29The only thing I had
21:31was strike.
21:34That's the only thing I had in mind cuz
21:36it was nothing else registered.
21:40I mean, I could have worked, but
21:43folks don't want to hire me. I'm trying
21:46every day to get a job. It's just too
21:48much going on. It's stressful. It's like
21:51it's crazy. It's like it's like soon you
21:53waste your life, that's when they want
21:54to want you to work.
21:56>> Mhm.
21:58This was crazy. Like I ride a bike every
22:01day up and down the street looking for
22:03job, looking for work.
22:06Can't get no job. Discrimination.
22:09>> Yeah.
22:10>> You know what I'm saying? I don't think
22:11my appearance or what people think about
22:13me or what they expect me to be or what
22:16they feel like I am.
22:19But I had a job when a being in
22:22predicament. I am
22:25sorry. I got a job, but now I don't got
22:27a job.
22:28>> Mhm.
22:29>> So you when you got to the counter and
22:31asked for the cigarettes, what happened
22:33next?
22:36>> Got to counter for the cigarette, he
22:38said. He said, "All right." He turned
22:40around. He turned around.
22:46I don't know.
22:48When you pulled the gun, I pul I pulled
22:50it I pulled it off my wrist. My I pulled
22:53it off my waist. And what did you what
22:55did you ask or tell him?
22:59I said I said the same OG.
23:06What did he do?
23:08I thought he was going to do it.
23:11Like he almost he grabbed like he tried
23:13to he tried to grab. I don't know why he
23:16tried to grab. Yeah. Why he tried to
23:19grab, man? That's crazy. So you just
23:22reacted to that.
23:26It just like
23:29it happened too fast. I wasn't thinking
23:31like
23:34it could have been me though and it
23:36might still be me. My turn might be
23:38next. [snorts]
23:39But uh yeah, you know what I'm saying?
23:43>> So it happens just in a blink of an eye
23:45and then what what happens after that?
23:48>> Uh panicking
23:51trying to figure out I don't want to
23:54look down. I don't want to look down. I
23:56ain't looking at him. I'm trying to
23:58figure out what I'm going to do next.
24:04Well, nothing work.
24:06Nothing works. Like he couldn't get the
24:07safe to open. Couldn't get it open. I
24:10needed the key to open up.
24:13But I still know how to open up even if
24:15I had the key because I didn't remember
24:17how to use that reg.
24:22So
24:24>> I ran.
24:26>> Well, before you ran, what did you do
24:27after that?
24:29>> What I do after that?
24:31>> Mhm.
24:32>> Before I ran?
24:33>> Before you left the store, you kind of
24:35go back and forth around the counter.
24:38>> I go back and forth around the counter.
24:40I try to see
24:44what we
24:44>> I was looking for
24:48looking for some money.
24:52Then like I was in a panic mode. So I
24:53wasn't thinking straight.
24:55>> I was thinking off. I was thinking
24:57backwards. I wasn't being my normal
24:59self.
25:00Everything I did was sloppy.
25:03The whole thing was sloppy. But even I
25:06knew that and I knew it was going to
25:08happen anyway. But he just I put myself
25:12in that situation.
25:13>> Mhm.
25:14>> So you took the scratch off tickets
25:16thinking that maybe you could cash them
25:18out or what? I took the scratch off the
25:20ticket cuz
25:22I was panicking.
25:23>> Okay.
25:23>> I knew I couldn't scratch him out cuz
25:25you got skin cold.
25:27>> But at the time you didn't. You were
25:28panicking. So you didn't think about
25:30that. But once you got out of there, you
25:31realize I like this. I can't do with
25:34this. Why didn't just leave?
25:36>> You could have had a half a million
25:37dollar winner in there and you couldn't
25:38have cashed it. [snorts]
25:40>> But Exactly. But that's why I just
25:44ran as I run. It kept falling out my
25:46pocket. So I said, "Get it." Where did
25:49you run to? [snorts]
25:52I just kept running. I ran I ran back to
25:55the back door.
25:55>> At the back door. And I ran to my
25:58apartment. I ran to my apartment. I
26:01left. How did you leave?
26:05Ran up apartments.
26:12Ran up apartments.
26:17in our apartment.
26:18>> You stayed walking?
26:20>> Stayed walking.
26:22>> How much longer did you hang on to them
26:23tickets before the light bulb came on
26:25that you couldn't use them and you got
26:27rid of them?
26:27>> Honestly, soon I walked out the door and
26:29I ran out of door from the store.
26:31>> Do you realize then?
26:32>> I realized then.
26:34>> So then you're just looking for a place
26:35to throw them away.
26:37>> No, then I was just Yeah. Yeah.
26:40Basically. Yeah. Yeah. Not throw away.
26:44Yeah. Yeah. But get rid of them. get rid
26:46of them, but I can't do nothing with
26:47them. But like, but I ain't get rid of
26:50them. I ain't throw them away. They fill
26:52out my pocket when I running.
26:54>> Well, a couple of them did.
26:56>> Yeah.
26:56>> But there was a bunch that were taken.
26:58>> A bunch were taken. But they uh with the
27:01rock I was running, they fell out my
27:04clothes cuz you you see on there, I had
27:08no belt on. That was my first mistake.
27:11That's why my hand on my my pants like
27:13that.
27:14belt.
27:16>> Um,
27:19where was your backpack
27:21when you were in the store?
27:24>> Yeah, cuz you showed up over there on uh
27:29at Tyreek's house at the backpack.
27:31>> Uhhuh.
27:33It was in garage.
27:35>> So, you left at the garage before you
27:37went over to the store?
27:39>> I left everything in his house.
27:41>> Okay. Yes, sir.
27:45>> [snorts]
27:50>> And I know it's a difficult thing.
27:52[snorts]
27:53>> Ain't no way I could ever, you know, be
27:55in your shoes because of what you're
27:57looking at.
27:58>> I know I'm looking at 25 life.
28:01>> But I think you did the taking ownership
28:03of it versus waiting for the DNA to come
28:05back and match after saying you didn't
28:07do it makes you look like it would make
28:09you look like a cold-hearted killer,
28:11like you didn't even care. But I don't
28:12think that's it. I think you were just a
28:15desperate man that was trying to do
28:17something that he thought was the next
28:18right thing [snorts] and that guy
28:20jumped. And when he did, you just
28:22reacted.
28:23>> And then after that, you panicked. And
28:25then after you panicked, then you got
28:27your mind clear and you realized I made
28:28a big mistake. So I can't have any of
28:30this stuff that's going to connect me to
28:31the crime anymore. I got to get rid of
28:33it. Right.
28:35>> Yeah. But I ain't get rid of it. I
28:37couldn't burnt anything. But I
28:40just w thinking like it's just it's like
28:42it's over with like
28:45>> I'm in Texas. I'm in Texas far away from
28:48home.
28:49>> Yeah.
28:50>> Like no no no family, no nothing. Like
28:53even if I get to death pen like it
28:55wouldn't even matter to be real.
28:57>> My family don't know.
29:01Well, we got detectives over there at
29:03the place that are tearing your friend's
29:06place up looking for stuff. If you tell
29:09us where it's at, but we ain't got to go
29:12through all of their every single nooks
29:14and cranny and inside all over that
29:16place.
29:19>> Okay, you can say that, but until we
29:20know where it is and we get it, we got
29:22to keep looking. We can't just take your
29:24word for it's not there cuz we know
29:27you're connected to this. But if you
29:28say, "Okay, it's in the backyard or it's
29:31in the garage or I threw it in this
29:33dumpster or I did something to it," then
29:35we can go there and get it and then we
29:37can stop our search on your friend's
29:38place. They can get back home.
29:43Where would I go look to find those
29:46clothes, those tickets, that gun?
29:54Oh no, man. Oh no.
29:59No clue.
30:04>> All right, let me call them and see if
30:06they found anything over there. Sit
30:07tight. We'll be back.
30:12>> Did you throw them in a dumpster
30:13somewhere or drop them off in a wooded
30:17area on your way back?
30:20>> Oh, no. I'm just trying to process all
30:22that right now.
30:23>> Sure. I'm trying to think it is.
30:27I can't believe I did this.
30:31I do my whole life.
30:35Oh, probably what $50 or something.
30:43>> That's crazy.
30:46>> But you live when you land though.
30:47>> You do. and
30:51you stepped up, took ownership,
30:54so that can be taken into consideration.
30:58>> Yeah. But like
31:01I'm already know I got to face all his
31:03family.
31:05>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean
31:07>> that
31:08>> that man was wellliked by a lot of
31:10people.
31:11>> I know. I bet you were.
31:16I'm already knowing.
31:21I believe in God, but
31:24sometimes you just do I'm right now like
31:29I'm just confused like what I want to
31:32do.
31:33>> Mhm.
31:33>> This whole time I've been hoping to get
31:35out of here. I really knew I get out. I
31:39had a good feeling like I lost anyway.
31:42I'm sorry. You feel like you lost
31:44because believe in God. There's There's
31:48always a win there.
31:51Always a win.
31:54We don't get sick of T. No, nothing like
31:56that. I was probably DUI
32:01took a whole human life.
32:03I know they exist.
32:06And in the back of my mind, I know for
32:08replacement that somebody want to take
32:10my life.
32:11Well,
32:14he can forgive you, but you got to also
32:16forgive yourself.
32:21Anything else weighing on you, you can
32:24release that.
32:28If you can remember where these [snorts]
32:31clothes are, where you drop them off,
32:33where you drop the gun off, it's going
32:35to take a little bit more weight off
32:36your shoulders.
32:40The most weight on my shoulder is I let
32:43my mom down.
32:46It's the biggest thing. My uncle locked
32:47up right now. I feel like
32:50I told myself I was not going to be like
32:55I'm just like that man. It's crazy.
32:59Gave into a dark thought in a in a tough
33:02moment.
33:04That can happen to any of us at any
33:06time. No, only the stupid people.
33:09Small one do that. Only don't.
33:14Everybody knew that.
33:16Everybody knew that. But [snorts] I
33:19mean,
33:21I already knew I was looking at
33:24I lost anyway. My friend, my friend,
33:31they talk too much.
33:34Who was your friend that wasn't really
33:36your friend?
33:36>> Huh?
33:37>> Who you talking about that was your
33:38friend that wasn't really your friend?
33:45>> Sometimes you get a feeling like
33:49people come around
33:51>> doing things.
33:53Some people come around.
34:06Like I feel like I let everybody down
34:08though.
34:10I used to be so happy,
34:13full of joy and all that.
34:15>> Mhm.
34:16>> I ain't let no
34:18problem still
34:21slowly going away.
34:23I' been too bad
34:26for me. It just change my whole
34:29demeanor, my whole person.
34:33I probably never get myself back. Like
34:36now I'm going to have life in like these
34:39folk be having barbecues, having fun.
34:42You know what I'm saying?
34:43>> Damn.
34:44>> Yeah. Right now,
34:48it's crazy.
35:04I know I really
35:10option though. Mhm.
35:13[snorts]
35:24always had another second chance.
35:28>> There's always a second chance
35:30with God.
35:31>> With God. Yeah.
35:33>> Mhm.
35:35I mean, you might have to spend the rest
35:37of your life in prison, but
35:42there's things you can do there, too, to
35:45keep your mind right. Get educated. Work
35:49program.
35:51That's [snorts] boring though, man. I
35:53can't see nobody I love in prison.
35:57I still going to prison. What's the
36:00point of me being alive if I can't be
36:01the one I love?
36:03Be in prison with a bunch of dudes.
36:06>> Yeah.
36:10It's crazy, man.
36:15It's crazy.
36:18I got a question.
36:20>> True.
36:20>> So,
36:22so y'all ask my friend
36:26about the gun.
36:27>> Mhm.
36:28>> What do you say?
36:36>> Tell the truth. You
36:38>> told the truth.
36:39>> Tell the truth. You
36:40>> told the truth just like I did. Mhm.
36:45>> Yep. Am
36:48I interrupted something?
36:50>> No, he's asking.
36:51>> Okay. So, I called the guys that are out
36:53there searching the house. They did find
36:55a 9 millimeter cartridge.
36:57>> I did.
36:58>> Mhm. At the house still. So, you missed
37:01one. But I don't see understand what
37:03difference does it make at this point
37:05knowing the gravity of all that's gone
37:07on and you taking ownership of this by
37:10you telling us where it's at versus not
37:12telling us where it's at. You know what
37:15I mean? The stuff that you threw out.
37:16No,
37:17>> I mean the cartridges ain't no
37:18cartridges. Them bullets. They just
37:20bullets with no
37:21>> a bullet is I call a bullet a cartridge.
37:23So a bullet then if that's what you want
37:25to say.
37:25>> That's what I said. I said the bullet
37:27was there but the gun is not there.
37:29>> Right.
37:29>> Mhm.
37:30>> Yes sir.
37:30>> But where is it then?
37:33>> I don't know.
37:35>> Okay. Well, here's something else that
37:37they did find
37:39at the apartment or at the place.
37:42>> What? at uh on uh Garfield Street.
37:47>> Oh my boy.
37:48>> Yeah.
37:51>> This vest right here.
37:55>> Who is that?
37:59This is the subject that robbed uh a
38:01Fort Silk Bank back uh in earlier
38:07this year. Not me.
38:11cuz this this person they found they
38:14found a jacket over there that looks
38:15very similar to this and this traffic
38:17vest.
38:18>> Yeah.
38:19>> And then they know from the crime scene
38:20that they picked up some DNA there.
38:23>> Yeah. But I don't know what it is.
38:27>> You don't know that the DNA is not going
38:28to match you?
38:29>> Most definitely not. Cuz I don't wear
38:31shoes like that.
38:33>> Okay.
38:33>> Like
38:36that's not me at all.
38:39>> I don't do this. That's this. I don't
38:42want to do that,
38:42>> right? Because this one that happened
38:44was all you were going to do is get a
38:45little money and then get out and then
38:47get a bus ticket and then get out of
38:49town and go somewhere and try to
38:50restart.
38:51>> That what I was going to do.
38:52>> And if he don't lunge and jump and grab,
38:54you don't react the way you do and we
38:57ain't sitting here right now like we
38:58are.
39:00>> Yes, sir.
39:01>> Okay.
39:03Well, uh, Detective Reigns had got a
39:06search warrant for your DNA, uh,
39:08already, even before we found you at the
39:10house tonight. So, we're going to have a
39:11crime scene technicians is going to come
39:13in. She's going to take photographs of
39:15you, and they're going to take a Q-tip
39:17and swab the inside of the cheek of your
39:19mouth to get uh, skin and saliva samples
39:23so that they can develop your DNA
39:25profile. And then it's going to be
39:26matched up against all the evidence DNA
39:28that we collected on Saturday.
39:31I said, "What?"
39:32>> On Saturday when we processed the crime
39:34scene, those places where you touched
39:36and the handle that you pulled, the
39:37cigarettes that you dropped.
39:38>> If y'all already got my DNA, why would I
39:40have to do that?
39:41>> We don't have yours. We have the DNA you
39:43left behind and the your known standard
39:46that we're about to collect is going to
39:47be matched to that to to to prove what
39:50you're telling us and that we not trying
39:51to frame you for something you didn't do
39:53or frame an innocent person.
39:56>> It's basically a frame if you don't have
39:58my if you don't have my fingerprints.
40:00No, it's not. We have you on video. We
40:03>> That's me. This talking about this right
40:04here. That's not That's not me.
40:06>> No, not on this one. I'm talking about
40:08the other. Not this one. I'm sorry I
40:10confused you. Okay.
40:12>> No. What I meant to say was regarding
40:14the thing that happened to Stripes.
40:15>> Yeah.
40:16>> So, I'm just telling you what's going to
40:18happen. There'll be a crime scene tech
40:19that'll come in. They'll rub the inside
40:20of of your mouth and they're going to
40:22collect DNA. And it's part of our
40:24procedure that we do. Okay.
40:29So basically
40:34I told the truth.
40:35>> Yeah.
40:36>> Mhm.
40:36>> And I've been a fool for telling the
40:38truth.
40:39>> You've been what?
40:40>> No.
40:41>> No. Because it was So here's the
40:43difference.
40:43>> I said I
40:46said I said I told the truth cuz
40:50I believe my boy didn't really say
40:52nothing. Like
40:54I trust him. Like I know they ain't said
40:57nothing but like you know
41:01sometimes you got to make a lie for
41:02somebody to
41:05open up on certain levels. So like I
41:08feel like
41:11I was lied to cuz
41:15y'all wouldn't get nowhere if I didn't
41:17tell the truth. Like
41:22even even if the video had
41:27uh
41:28even if the video had a voice recorder,
41:32the full video even out.
41:34>> We don't release that to the public.
41:36>> No.
41:37>> Just like we didn't release the fact
41:38that lottery tickets were taken. We
41:40didn't release the fact that the
41:41cigarettes, none of that was released.
41:43That the bad guy went to the bathroom
41:44first and then came out. All of that
41:47that you described that you did is what
41:50happened because you were there and you
41:51did it. That's the truth.
41:53>> Yeah.
41:53>> The difference is we are sitting here
41:56trying to figure out are you a cold
41:58bloodooded killer that runs around
41:59wanting to do this kind of stuff or are
42:01you a a guy that's down on his luck and
42:03made a bad decision and then when this
42:05person reached for the gun and you
42:07reacted that wasn't your plan. Well, I'm
42:09saying if it if it would it really
42:12matter both still
42:14>> it does make a difference
42:15>> if I still end up with the same outcome.
42:16>> Flip flip it around. If you had someone
42:19in front of you and they said, "Hell
42:21yeah, I killed that dumbass and I wanted
42:23to kill him and that's the reason I went
42:25there was to kill him."
42:27>> Okay, you got that person on one side of
42:29it. Then you got someone on the other
42:30side that says, "I was desperate for
42:32money. I don't know where I'm going to
42:34sleep tonight. It's cold outside. I
42:36don't have any way to get anywhere. All
42:38I'm gonna do is go in here and take this
42:40person's money. That's it. If they if
42:42they comply, you would not have hurt
42:44them. But as soon as he reaches for the
42:46gun, it's him or you. Like you said, you
42:48just react. Which one of those two
42:51people are you willing or would you be
42:53willing if you were the judge or a jury
42:54sitting there hearing that willing to
42:56say, "This guy's really sorry for what
42:58he did." And when he asked for
43:00consideration, when he asked to say,
43:03"Hey, I don't I don't want to be thrown
43:05away. I I don't mean I didn't never mean
43:08for that to happen that way. Or the guy
43:10that says pound sand. [laughter]
43:13You know what I mean? That's the
43:14difference that it makes
43:16>> that you sit here today and you're sorry
43:17for what you did. That you feel bad.
43:20Floyd Kirk was that guy's name.
43:24>> Rest in peace. and he had a family
43:28that don't have him anymore
43:31because in the blink of an eye, in a
43:33split second,
43:34>> life changing
43:35>> and a bad decision
43:36>> and now two lives have changed.
43:38>> I know. Like that's what I'm saying.
43:41Like
43:43when I came, I already knew like it was
43:46a no sympathy for me cuz I look like the
43:48bad guy regardless. Like nobody really
43:51care about no young boy who trying to
43:54make it out here. Nobody care that I'm
43:56owning. Nobody care about that. Let's be
43:57real.
43:59Only thing y'all really care about that
44:01I took this man life for no reason. And
44:03I know that that's the only reason why I
44:05did everything I tried to do cuz I knew
44:07for a fact my life wouldn't be nothing
44:09to me cuz obviously y
44:13don't care about that man. Like I don't
44:16know man. Like
44:19it's a lose lose lose situation. Ain't
44:21no win coming out of there. Ain't no win
44:24coming out. I could have got executed to
44:26death. Like I don't want to go to no
44:28electric,
44:29>> right?
44:30>> I'm in Texas like
44:32>> knowing what I'm going to get the
44:34needle. Like we don't know that. Okay.
44:38>> We don't know that. and and to say that
44:41that nobody cares about you
44:45and we've been anything but anything
44:47less than professional and and courteous
44:50to you.
44:51I mean, we
44:52>> I mean, be honest, sir. You got to do
44:54your job at the end of the day.
44:56>> We got to do our job at the end of
44:57>> the day. So, like but we we could we
45:00could be an [ __ ] and do our job,
45:02>> right? You can. Yes, you can.
45:03>> And we didn't do that. It didn't do that
45:05>> cuz
45:06>> but like I said like vibes tell it all.
45:09Like you know you can tell when somebody
45:12really don't care,
45:14you know.
45:15>> Yeah.
45:15>> You can tell when somebody care.
45:17>> Yeah.
45:18>> Like
45:19>> if we didn't care, we wouldn't still be
45:21sitting here talking to you like we are.
45:23>> I can tell you care about Floyd Kirk.
45:25>> Mhm.
45:26>> Well, yeah. We don't want to see anybody
45:27any, you know, guys working a job.
45:29>> He was close to you.
45:30>> And I feel bad for you, too. I mean, I'm
45:32not lying. I feel bad for you. You're
45:33out on your own. It's freaking freezing
45:35ass cold outside. You ain't got no place
45:37to sleep. I wish that decisions were
45:39made differently, but we are dealing
45:41with what we're dealing with.
45:43>> You know, head on down to the mission.
45:45Um, don't tow the gun around. Anything
45:47else that we could change the path in
45:50the course of this,
45:51>> what's mission?
45:52>> It's a place where people that don't
45:54have a place to stay can go and get out
45:55of the cold and get something to eat.
45:57>> I went there. They not allowed me to be
45:59there. I went there. I focus.
46:02I was not I was not meant to be there
46:05like they they didn't want me there and
46:07[ __ ]
46:09>> So where I'mma go?
46:10>> Yeah.
46:12>> Yeah.
46:13>> It's
46:14>> that's it. It be a tough very tough
46:17situation to be in.
46:19>> But like I don't know, man.
46:21>> Like I probably I probably messed it up
46:23like you know too scared.
46:25>> Mhm.
46:26>> Not knowing what to say and not know
46:27what to do. Not know what to think.
46:29>> I probably messed all this up. Like my
46:31friend probably But I ain't even said
46:34nothing.
46:35My friend probably was the quiet as
46:37mouth and here go me bitching out.
46:41I know exactly what happened. I'm just
46:43an honest person. I can't
46:47even if I wanted to lie. I couldn't lie
46:50for real.
46:52But I think that says again like what I
46:54thought. I've been doing these kinds of
46:56cases for this is my 14th year and I've
46:59seen a bunch of them and you can kind of
47:01tell the difference between the
47:03predators that are just rolling around
47:05and doing bad stuff and they ain't got
47:06no they don't don't even care about it
47:09versus someone finds themselves in a
47:11desperate situation and then all of a
47:13sudden
47:15fortune you know fate turns and it's
47:18over and it just didn't mean for it to
47:20happen the way it happened but it
47:21happened.
47:23>> Yeah. So,
47:25all right. Let me let them know what's
47:26going on over there. Do you got
47:28something to drink and a snack? Yeah.
47:31Are you good with that?
47:34Can not cause somebody? Uh, let me see.
47:36I got to do some paperwork. But hey, you
47:38got someone you can call? Who? Who do
47:41you want to call? Talk to my mom.
47:43>> Your mom. Okay, let's see what we can
47:45work out.
48:05Stay back. Stay back.
48:11[snorts]
48:19I know you're upset, man, but you can't
48:21be hurting yourself. Okay.
48:25>> Do you want to make that phone call to
48:27your mom? You're going to have to calm
48:28down.
48:29>> Okay.
48:29>> Take a seat for
48:35>> You want a drink of water?
48:39>> I want to try more.
48:41>> Okay. Be calm to do that.
48:42>> We're working on it, right? This kind of
48:44stuff. It's not going to happen, man.
48:45>> Come.
48:47>> I can't come, man. I'm not even mad,
48:50bro.
48:54>> I can't lose it.
48:56Can't lose it, bro. She mean everything
48:59to me, bro. I can't lose her. Your mom,
49:05she going to be about this. Why would I
49:08do it?
49:12My whole life
49:15I've been taking on my mom pain my whole
49:16life. She lost her brother. Same
49:19situation.
49:21He He killed her boyfriend. [snorts]
49:25He end up getting wife.
49:28She She end up doing drugs.
49:32She start doing look okay.
49:37>> She doing better now.
49:40Rough. That's why that's why we to it.
49:44I don't like that.
49:47Tell I don't like that. But you supposed
49:50to tell the drug act what they should
49:52and should not do.
49:53>> Yeah. It's the co season. I just I
49:58should do nothing crazy.
50:01>> Stuff's evil.
50:02>> Yeah. For sure crazy, man. Like
50:06y'all don't even got mirror and watch me
50:09cry and [ __ ] No, we just can't have you
50:11tear apart the room is the only reason
50:12we're standing here now.
50:13>> Break. I just want to talk to my old
50:16lady. Like I'm really calm now. Like you
50:19know I just had to tap the wall. So
50:22>> Okay.
50:23>> Well, we'll step out.
50:24>> We'll let you calm down for a minute.
50:25We'll work on it. All right. Give
50:27>> that. We'll watch you, man. We can't let
50:29you tear the room. Okay.
50:31>> So, we'll leave I'll leave you on for a
50:33little bit if that's what you want.
50:34>> Yeah. Can I do these on?
50:35>> Not right now.
50:37>> Show us some Give me cal for a little
50:38bit. We'll talk about it. Okay,
50:40>> I'm calm.
50:41>> Show us for a little bit. Well, that's
50:42out of the room. Okay,
50:43>> give us like 5 minutes.
50:45>> Okay,
50:53>> you should never do it.
50:58Damn.
51:04Damn.
51:08Live your life, bro. [snorts]
51:11You know 17.
51:15You should never did it.
51:27>> Hey, we're going to step in here real
51:28quick. The ID tags here. We're just
51:30going to sit in here with her while she
51:31does the procedural stuff.
51:33>> As soon as she gets done, then we'll
51:34call your mom. She talk to her.
51:37>> You hear that? Yeah. Okay.
51:40[snorts]
51:41>> I can't wear my face.
51:42>> Hey, love. We got to take some pictures
51:44of you.
51:44>> Let me wipe my face. You take pictures.
51:46We don't want you crying.
52:07All right. I need you to look at me,
52:10please.
52:10>> My face, please.
52:21>> Good.
52:22>> Yeah.
52:23>> All right. I'll make this as quick as
52:25possible for you.
52:30>> All righty. Let me grab some other
52:32stuff. Here we sit on that chair real
52:36quick so she can She's not very tall so
52:38she have to
52:52[snorts]
53:01uh
53:04I'm going to prison.
53:06>> You'll go to the county job tonight.
53:10>> Okay. You'll see a you'll see a judge in
53:12the morning.
53:19[snorts]
53:27>> Do you know your mom's number?
53:29>> Uh
53:41Yes, sir. I think
54:06All right. I'm just going to do the
54:07buckle swabs and then we'll do his
54:09clothes. Okay.
54:12>> All righty.
54:23All right. These are just some cotton
54:25swabs that I need to do on the inside of
54:27your cheek of your mouth. Okay.
54:29>> Why you got to do that if you already
54:30got my DNA?
54:31>> I don't have I need a standard
54:33>> like detective off explain to you. No,
54:35>> I'm saying like I understand, but like
54:37if I'm going to go to jail for life,
54:39y'all might already have my DNA. I can't
54:41give my DNA if y'all don't got it.
54:43>> So So listen, hear me out. Okay.
54:45>> Y'all don't got it against me.
54:46>> A judge signed a warrant to get your
54:49DNA. Okay. What you have already told us
54:52and cooperated. I didn't tell him
54:54>> what you have told Detective Laughlin.
54:56>> I I told you he could get my DNA.
54:58>> No, no, no, no. What you told him, the
55:00story line you told. Okay.
55:02>> And he told you there's DNA on the
55:03scene.
55:04>> We have to take your DNA to match it to
55:06what's on the scene. Okay.
55:08>> That's all this is.
55:09>> But I'm saying if y'all already got DNA
55:13from the scene,
55:14why do y'all need my DNA? That's what
55:16I'm saying. to match it
55:18>> to match to match your DNA with the
55:21person. You already told us you're the
55:22person on scene, but
55:23>> I'm saying is what I'm saying. You
55:25understand what I'm saying? Okay, look,
55:26you said I'm the person, right? So, if
55:29I'm the person, that mean
55:32my DNA for like to make sure I am the
55:34person. I'm clearly the person. It makes
55:36no sense to get my DNA if I'm the
55:38person. That's what I'm saying.
55:39>> So, you know how you play go fish, how
55:41you have to match, you know, you you
55:43know, three fives or whatever. Well, I
55:45need that five from you to match.
55:47>> It's not goldfish, though. It's light.
55:50>> Well, I don't know how to explain it to
55:51you any better.
55:52>> I'm still trying to figure out why.
55:54>> I got it. I'm going do it.
55:56>> Okay.
55:56>> Okay. So, can you open your mouth for
55:58me? We're going to have to do this a
55:59couple times. All right.
56:00>> He's just going to rub the inside of
56:02your cheek. It don't hurt. I got to do
56:04that.
56:04>> Yeah. There's We have the warrant from a
56:07from a judge that signed that says you
56:08have to give this. We have to
56:09>> Can I see the warrant?
56:10>> Yeah. Where's the warrant at, David?
56:12Yeah, it's uncertain.
56:15I
56:15>> think it's right there laying on his
56:17desk.
56:22>> As a matter of fact, this is your copy.
56:25So, this is your name and your
56:26descriptors. And it says that we're
56:28going to get photographs of you, buckle
56:29swabs, if we want, hair samples, and any
56:32other items to constitute evidence in
56:35this investigation.
56:39And it's signed by the judge today.
56:42Wait, actually yesterday at 1:30 in the
56:45afternoon.
56:48>> It's the search for y'all.
56:51>> Yeah. For you.
56:52>> I'm saying we we secured it. No. To
56:54search. You see, this is where it says
56:56what you're going to describe and get.
56:58We got a choice. You can sit down and
56:59open it voluntarily or we're going to
57:01take it from you. That's where we're at.
57:04>> Yeah.
57:04>> You don't need to make it that way.
57:06>> Okay. Have a seat.
57:07>> All right. Have a seat. And she's just
57:10going to swab the inside of your mouth
57:11three times and then we're done.
57:17>> All right, love. Open up for me. I'm
57:19sorry. I got to get the inside of your
57:21mouth. Okay.
57:21>> Open wide.
57:26>> I'm going to do it. Can you leave,
57:27please?
57:32>> All righty. You set it.
57:35>> All righty. Let me go get him for you.
57:37These are again
57:40listening. It's you've already gained
57:43your confession. Okay.
57:45>> Why you want to do this? After you told
57:48us earlier that you felt bad about what
57:50you did and you feel sorry about it. Now
57:51you're going to give this crime scene
57:53technician a hard time for just doing
57:55her job.
57:56>> I'm not I'm not boss. I'm not trying to
57:58give her a hard time.
57:59>> Okay. Then sit down and open your mouth.
58:01>> No, I can't. I can't do that cuz
58:04ain't nobody lying. Nobody's lying to
58:07you. There's a search warrant for you to
58:08get this DNA. We can either you can
58:11either cooperate with it or not
58:12cooperate and we have to take it. Not
58:14taking it from you is not going to be
58:16pleasant.
58:17>> I'm saying taking it as I think that's
58:19against the law.
58:19>> No, it's not No, it's not against the
58:21law.
58:21>> Taking some DNA.
58:23>> It's not against the law. We got We got
58:24a search warrant. The judge is
58:26authorized to take it from you.
58:31>> I'm not lying to you. I just showed you
58:32the warrant. You're going to leave here
58:33with a copy of the warrant.
58:41I couldn't do it.
58:42>> You're going to have to sit down.
58:45>> Sit down. I'm going sit down, bro.
58:46>> Yeah. You're going to sit down. All
58:47right. We're done playing it.
58:48>> Sit down. Sit down.
58:51>> Open our mouths. Do you want us to help
58:52you open it or you going to do it on
58:54your own?
58:55>> Do it on my own.
58:56>> Okay. Open then.
58:57>> Well, get back. Get on me, man.
58:59>> No. No. We You That getting off you time
59:02has passed.
59:02>> Feel like for a move. Can you please
59:05move? I'mma let her do it. There's too
59:07many.
59:08>> I promise. I don't think you're telling
59:10the truth. Go ahead. You want me to do
59:11it?
59:11>> I'm telling the truth.
59:12>> Open up for me then. Look,
59:12>> I'mma do it. Open for me. I'm do it for
59:14her, cuz watch out. That [ __ ] sound
59:16wrong. Let her do it,
59:19>> man. Move, man. Let her do it, man. I'm
59:21already
59:22>> Go ahead. Do it. Get up off me.
59:24>> Do it.
59:26>> Okay.
59:31>> All right. There's one set. Two more
59:33times and we're done.
59:39>> All right, number two. Open for me.
59:42>> Open your mouth.
59:43>> There you Oh, come on. Open your teeth
59:45for me. Then I'm going to shove.
59:53>> You like this?
59:54>> No, we don't. We have to go this way.
59:58>> It's crazy. I got to go to court anyway.
1:00:02That's it.
1:00:03>> That's one. He's the only one genuine
1:00:04person near
1:00:06right here.
1:00:08Ain't this one right here?
1:00:10>> He's going to the one that's going to
1:00:11help you let call your mom.
1:00:12>> Yeah, I know. I I know. I can feel them
1:00:14crying inside. I can feel the rest of
1:00:17y'all that. But these two really cut.
1:00:21>> It's not hard.
1:00:25>> It didn't have to be this way.
1:00:26>> Yeah, you good, man. You just doing your
1:00:28job trying to get another black man off
1:00:30the street. That's the best way to do
1:00:32it.
1:00:34>> Yes.
1:00:35>> She she just gonna document your
1:00:37clothing real quick. Okay.
1:00:41>> Anyone tell him this is happening?
1:00:43>> What she going to do is take your shoes
1:00:45then or take your clothes your shoes and
1:00:48so you can go to jail. You got to wear
1:00:49this little suit. So we get you to jail
1:00:51and get you a jail jumper. Okay.
1:00:54>> They just want your jeans and your
1:00:56sweatshirt.
1:01:12Go ahead.
1:01:12>> Sure.
1:01:14>> Go ahead, man.
1:01:15>> Can you kick your boots off that tunnel?
1:01:17>> Oh, yes, sir.
1:01:24>> My little t-ird.
1:01:33You're good. Go ahead. Keep on me.
1:01:42>> Kick them off.
1:01:52>> Almost got him. You go.
1:01:58Sit down, bro. There you go.
1:02:03>> Can you put your one leg up here?
1:02:04>> Here. Take a seat. Just pull
1:02:08leg up.
1:02:13You want a little work? Not too much.
1:02:15Yeah. Yeah.
1:02:17I got a bad knee. Oh, got you.
1:02:22Is that all wallet?
1:02:30>> If he needed, you know, IDs or anything
1:02:32for whatever he's doing next.
1:02:34>> Shoes or no shoes?
1:02:35>> No shoes.
1:02:36>> I don't think I need his shoes.
1:02:37>> No shoes.
1:02:38>> No, we'll put them back.
1:02:39>> Yeah, just
1:02:42>> do you want to put this?
1:02:43>> No, you don't have to if you don't want
1:02:44to. You can go like that if you want.
1:02:46>> Go like go like that.
1:02:48>> Just a gel tonight. You can get a gel
1:02:49jumper. Oh, you wear this since it's
1:02:51>> You're gonna Once you get to jail,
1:02:52they're gonna give you a
1:02:54>> take that off.
1:02:54>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can go just like
1:02:56that. I mean, it's going to be cold when
1:02:57you walk outside and we'll get a we'll
1:02:58get a car warmed up for you. You
1:03:00>> wear that?
1:03:03>> You going wear this? Here you go.
1:03:05>> Listen, if you're going to be
1:03:06cooperative with us, we're going to let
1:03:07you make that phone call. Okay. So,
1:03:12don't change your attitude on this guy.
1:03:14>> Ain't no point in doing that.
1:03:16>> Right.
1:03:17You want to call your mom right now?
1:03:20>> Okay.
1:03:21>> Bo.
1:03:22>> Yeah.
1:03:22>> You got the number.
1:03:33>> Excuse my athletic feet though.
1:03:41>> Just sit outside here.
1:03:42>> We give you a little privacy.
1:03:55>> [snorts]
1:03:56>> She probably has the phone. Damn.
1:04:05>> I'm sorry, but the person you called has
1:04:07a boy's mailbox that has not been
1:04:10>> Try it again.
1:04:11>> Uh, or do you know a number? Another
1:04:13number.
1:04:16Do y'all have my phone?
1:04:18>> Uh, let me ask you.
1:04:21>> Hey, John.
1:04:23>> John, do you have his phone?
1:04:25>> Do I have his phone?
1:04:26>> Yeah.
1:04:27>> I have this phone. Is this your phone?
1:04:31>> Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
1:04:32>> Okay. Do you need a number out of it?
1:04:34>> Yes, sir.
1:04:34>> Okay.
1:04:37See if I can turn it on.
1:04:43>> All right. Is there code for it or
1:04:45anything?
1:04:45>> No, you just swipe up.
1:04:47>> Okay. So, contacts.
1:04:48>> No, go to Yes, sir. Go to um text now.
1:04:52That's this one right here.
1:04:54>> Uh the right for right here, right?
1:04:57Text.
1:04:58>> Yes, sir.
1:04:58>> Okay.
1:04:59>> One more. One more.
1:05:02>> This is coming up.
1:05:03>> You got the Bible.
1:05:05>> Okay. Close that Bible verse.
1:05:06>> Yes, sir.
1:05:08>> Okay. Does it need to be on Wi-Fi?
1:05:11>> Uh, no. No. I'm just trying to get my
1:05:13own phone number.
1:05:15>> I'm going to run and make a copy and
1:05:17then I'll be back for whatever phone
1:05:18call.
1:05:19>> Okay.
1:05:21>> Do you need that phone number? It looks
1:05:23like one.
1:05:24>> That's the one I have.
1:05:28>> That's what I'm saying.
1:05:29>> Let's just try to call her again. Maybe
1:05:30she'll answer. Can I Can I call my pops?
1:05:33>> You want that number, too?
1:05:35>> Is it in here?
1:05:36>> What's her name?
1:05:37>> Uh, Miss M.
1:05:40Let me write these down so you'll have
1:05:42them too when you go get a piece of
1:05:44paper.
1:05:46She probably work at work. She probably
1:05:50>> where she work.
1:05:53>> I'm sorry.
1:05:54>> Did you get the other number? Your pop
1:05:56number?
1:05:56>> Uh, I got two.
1:06:13As soon as he answers, I'll walk out.
1:06:15Jump on top. All right.
1:06:18[ __ ] dog.
1:06:26Where's 662 at?
1:06:29>> Oh, Mississippi.
1:06:34Anybody?
1:06:41Your call has been forwarded to an auto.
1:06:43>> Are these cell phones where if I text
1:06:45them, maybe they'll know who it is?
1:06:47>> Can I see the phone? Make sure that's
1:06:48the right number. Yes, sir.
1:06:53>> Phone.
1:07:07B.
1:07:08>> Is that boot?
1:07:11>> Okay. Any other numbers you want out of
1:07:14here that I can write down for you
1:07:15before you go?
1:07:17>> Yes, sir. Uh
1:07:22SC wrong number. You called for boot. Go
1:07:25back. All right. Let's go back.
1:07:29I got
1:07:35Yeah, that's the one. [snorts] My pops.
1:07:38>> Okay. Uh, yeah. He love me.
1:07:42>> Oh, I hope he don't be mad.
1:07:43>> What about that?
1:07:44>> No, he going to be mad. Oh, that's my
1:07:45homeboy. I don't want to talk about
1:07:50any I don't see any other numbers. You
1:07:51want anymore?
1:07:52>> No, I don't want anymore.
1:07:53>> Okay, this will go with you then.
1:08:0112:00
1:08:04probably it's uh Well, that time's
1:08:07wrong.
1:08:09>> No, that's right. 12:53.
1:08:12>> At the moment, please leave a message
1:08:14after the time.
1:08:16>> That time one more time. We got to do
1:08:18some more. You can try.
1:08:20>> Huh?
1:08:21>> Do paperwork. So, we got time to try.
1:08:23>> Mama, one more time. Yeah.
1:08:25>> Maybe she'll wake up. Maybe she'll wake
1:08:27up. She need to wake up so I can check
1:08:28what's going on. I'm getting self crime.
1:08:31I can't call it.
1:08:49>> I'm sorry, but the person you called
1:08:53him one more time.
1:08:55>> Yeah.
1:08:59I mean, you're going to be here for just
1:09:00a minute anyway. So, if they call back,
1:09:02I said I thought they call back. I
1:09:06should have probably
1:09:19I know a number. Uh, I know a number.
1:09:23>> You know a number?
1:09:24>> Yeah.
1:09:24>> Which one is Who was this?
1:09:26>> My grandma.
1:09:33>> Johnny Hawkins.
1:09:44She
1:09:54>> can get a cuss.
1:09:56>> Not yet, man.
1:09:57>> I can't take it now.
1:09:58>> Hello. Sorry I missed you.
1:10:04>> I [clears throat] was making sure.
1:10:05>> Well, I'll keep it on and then give it a
1:10:07few more minutes and we'll call back
1:10:08again.
1:10:09>> I'll turn on the deal. Maybe one of them
1:10:11will call us back.
1:10:12>> Got you. All right.
1:10:13>> Have a seat if you want to. We'll wait a
1:10:14few more minutes.
1:10:15>> All right. All right.
1:10:17Can I wait?
1:10:20>> Can I drink my water bottle, please?
1:10:22>> I ain't going to cut. I
1:10:24>> give you a drink. We keep We can't move
1:10:25the hand.
1:10:25>> We're not going to move the handcuffs.
1:10:26I'll I'll give you a drink real quick.
1:10:30>> We can't move those handcuffs.
1:10:45Like I know you from somewhere.
1:10:46>> Why that?
1:10:48>> I don't know. I just You look familiar.
1:10:50Real real familiar. I just can't put
1:10:52>> Ryder.
1:10:54>> Oh, Ryder.
1:10:56>> Wearing the Rider hat. That's why I just
1:10:57assumed you know him from Ryder.
1:10:59>> You go Rider?
1:11:00>> Yeah, I do. That's crazy.
1:11:03>> I did go, but I still
1:11:06There a lot of teachers I know
1:11:09>> teacher
1:11:15>> coach
1:11:18>> how many years you go to RER
1:11:20>> I didn't get to graduate I went um my
1:11:2210th grade here I started my 10th grade
1:11:24here in my 12th grade year I went back
1:11:26home
1:11:27>> what year was that that you went
1:11:31>> uh about 2017 2018
1:11:35Yeah. Been a long long time.
1:11:38>> Coach coach football.
1:11:42>> Oh y
1:11:45>> football.
1:11:47>> That's crazy.
1:11:57>> That's what we do.
1:11:58>> Yep. Men alone.
1:12:00>> I can connect. No, got cuss.
1:12:02>> I want to take a nap.
1:12:03>> Oh, yeah. You can try to take a nap, but
1:12:05take the cuffs off me.
1:12:07>> I'll give you three more minutes. They
1:12:08call back. Okay.
1:12:09>> Yes, sir.
1:12:15>> After the interrogation and the evidence
1:12:17presented at trial, [music] a Witchah
1:12:19County jury found Tajmin Robinson guilty
1:12:22of capital murder for the killing of
1:12:24Floyd Kurt. Prosecutors did not seek the
1:12:27death penalty, making [music] the
1:12:28sentence mandatory under Texas law.
1:12:31Robinson was sentenced to life in prison
1:12:33without the possibility of parole. The
1:12:35conviction was later reviewed on appeal
1:12:37where Robinson challenged [music] the
1:12:38admission of portions of his
1:12:39interrogation footage and a recorded
1:12:41jail phone call. In October 2024, the
1:12:44[music] Texas 6th Court of Appeals
1:12:46rejected those arguments and affirmed
1:12:48both the conviction and the life
1:12:50sentence, finding no reversible error in
1:12:52[music] the trial proceedings. Robinson
1:12:55remains incarcerated in the Texas
1:12:56Department of Criminal Justice [music]
1:12:58and will spend the remainder of his life
1:12:59in prison. Floyd Kurt, remembered by
1:13:02friends and family as a hardworking man
1:13:03with [music] plans for the future, lost
1:13:05his life during a robbery that lasted
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