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0:00And by the way, I'm super pissed when
0:01all the youngsters try to call you
0:03[laughter] because you're still plenty
0:04young. Mike, you're very young.
0:07Mike,
0:08>> you're very young and all these
0:1020-year-old Gary. Gary, he is 41,
0:12>> bro. He's a Gary, Gary, he has no family
0:15or wife.
0:16>> Yeah, I I understand people come in here
0:17and try to criticize him. He's a [ __ ]
0:19player.
0:20>> Hell yeah, Gary.
0:20>> He's a Yeah, Gary. [laughter]
0:22Finally, somebody on my
0:25[music]
0:33Mike, when did you get in?
0:35>> Midnight last night. You know how it
0:37goes. GV,
0:38>> you've been good.
0:39>> Fantastic, bro. Fantastic.
0:41>> You look good, man.
0:42>> Moving into the restaurant industry, the
0:43worst space in the world.
0:45>> Yeah, but you know this at scale. It's
0:47not.
0:47>> I know.
0:48>> It is for It's for It's for bad players.
0:50>> Like it's a win or take all kind of
0:52thing. You know what I mean? Like you
0:53got to be a real player.
0:54>> Yeah.
0:54>> But
0:55>> good for you, man. I think
0:57>> How's the burger thing going?
0:58>> It's going I mean that's what I'm
0:59talking about. It's going good. It's
1:00just Well, yeah. It's just working with
1:01the making sure you're working with the
1:02right operators in the food space and
1:06like
1:06>> are you going to franchise that? Are you
1:08going to own
1:08>> Right now it's all uh we're talking
1:09about 1010 burger for anybody watching.
1:11Uh right now it's all going to be
1:12company owned, but we just have a really
1:14strong operating partner that's going to
1:16that's going to handle a lot of the
1:18operating and hiring and location
1:21identification, so on and so forth.
1:22>> Got it. Got it. Got it. I just I I
1:23that's kind of the way to do it. If you
1:25find like and Logan could attest to this
1:27too and GV you can too. You got to find
1:29like the right partners and just be and
1:32just be if you can just be the face bro
1:34that just markets and somebody else is
1:36the machine behind it and you can trust
1:38that with your soul, your life, your
1:40soul, your heart, then you could
1:42succeed, you know?
1:43>> Yeah. I mean I think you know it's more
1:46about figuring out what the [ __ ] you're
1:47actually good at, right? Like some
1:48people are operators, some people are
1:50marketers. Like some people are so
1:52talented they can do both.
1:54>> It's f Yeah, that's you. [laughter]
1:55That's you.
1:56>> That is you.
1:56>> You got And you got to watch out for
1:58some of these operators that then when
2:00they uh they have a little success with
2:01you as a partner, they decide they also
2:03want to be a face.
2:04>> Sure. That's become such a big reality
2:07in today's world, right? Everyone's now
2:09in play. You know, 20 years ago, there
2:11were a small group of celebrities and a
2:13number of operators. Now everybody has
2:16no friction to actually be a face.
2:18>> Yeah.
2:19>> You're one podcast away, you know,
2:21you're one,
2:21>> you know, vlog or streaming session away
2:23from like feeling it. And to your point,
2:25some people get so intoxicated with the
2:28attention it they lose their way. I've
2:30watched a lot of, you know, so many
2:31operators started building their, you
2:33know, their own personal brands because
2:35of my content. And I've watched some of
2:37them get short-term success from it, but
2:39then completely lose their way because
2:40they think they're [ __ ] Beyonce now
2:42when they're running a [ __ ] pizza
2:44shop, you know? And so, like, yeah,
2:46people get high in their supply,
2:47>> especially in those first 15 minutes of
2:49it, like when you have that big first
2:50viral pop, but they don't realize how
2:53few people make it from 15 minutes to 3
2:55hours in the space. And and now with the
2:59way that the social media algorithms
3:00work, which were, you know, Vine was
3:02really the first time it kind of started
3:04that way. You were really one piece of
3:06content away from everything changing.
3:08>> You know, now people think, you know, a
3:10single viral post means their Logan when
3:14in reality, you know, to your point,
3:15>> you got to do that every day. you know,
3:17getting it to your 30 minutes of fame,
3:19let alone your 15, let alone to your
3:21three years of fame, is like an
3:22incredibly high
3:25challenging framework, especially even
3:28just emotionally. Forget about if you're
3:29even good enough to know what the [ __ ]
3:31to do on camera and all that. When you
3:33start dealing with that level of
3:34judgment, the amount of emotional
3:36strength you need to maintain, you know,
3:40being out there with all the scrutiny,
3:42you know, there's just so many people
3:44that are not mentally prepared for the
3:46heat and that [ __ ] them up. Let alone
3:49the fact that the platforms continue to
3:50change. You know, back to Logan as the
3:53prompt, there were a lot of people in
3:55that group of the Vine 100,
3:57>> the first wave,
3:58>> you know, that weren't able to
3:59transition to the next phase,
4:01>> long form,
4:02>> you know, branding podcast, you know,
4:03there's just there's, [laughter] you
4:04know, and again, I think what Logan
4:06represents and I see in others is
4:09>> a lot of people are just talent
4:11>> whereas other people are talent and have
4:13an entrepreneurial lens. And then
4:15there's even a rarer crew of talent
4:18entrepreneurial lens and then also
4:20operator
4:21>> or plus athlete which is another
4:23universal language as I travel the world
4:25that I find like it's just so globally
4:29spoken is like oh you you're partners
4:31with the fighter fight they go like this
4:33they can't even maybe they can't even
4:34speak English wrestler Logan WWE right
4:37like fighting is almost like mathematics
4:39>> it's also yes
4:41>> it's just globally spoken
4:42>> it's Roman Empire stuff it's most basic
4:44thing like all of us can feel the
4:46fighting thing. But I also think the
4:48thing that
4:50Logan and Jake have done well between
4:52YouTube and then if you look carefully,
4:53you look at Netflix, right? Netflix is
4:56global. Like when Raw is live, there are
4:59people watching it all over the world
5:01live, right? And I think that people
5:04underestimate the sheer amount of
5:06attention that these platforms have. And
5:09so when you're not limiting yourself in
5:11distribution,
5:13the places where he shows up are all
5:16three places are completely utterly
5:17global. It's YouTube, it's podcasting,
5:20and then Netflix Live, whether it's a
5:23fight that Jake's doing, or whether
5:24they're doing RAW. This is a level of
5:27distribution that people underestimate.
5:30>> I think Jake just figured out a little
5:31hack in his merger with the PFL.
5:34>> Yeah. MVP MMA just merged with PFL to
5:37create this new fight league to try to
5:39rival the UFC. And their model of
5:42distribution has been on free platforms.
5:46I say free because you got a
5:46subscription, right? But assuming you
5:48have a subscription, which you probably
5:49do, it's it's Netflix. What you going to
5:50watch?
5:50>> And we're in that era, right? The
5:51streaming services are doing that now,
5:53right? Obviously UFC did the huge deal
5:54with Paramount, right? The sports are
5:56now on that. like what cable did to
5:58network television, what network
6:00television did to the radio, streaming
6:02is now doing to cable. I don't I'm I'm
6:05fascinated by people's inability to
6:07understand that the world will always
6:08turn and there'll be new games. All that
6:11Netflix and Hulu and Paramount are doing
6:13is exactly what ESPN did to ABC and NBC.
6:17Dude, I love the clips that you find
6:19from 15, 20 years ago of like a young
6:22Gary Vee [laughter]
6:23sitting at a table screaming at the live
6:26stream watching your like people aren't
6:28going to read magazines anymore. Who
6:30reads a magazine here doing polls?
6:32>> You're wearing the tie still.
6:33>> No tie. Go look at the clips. You button
6:36down. The button downs. I was button
6:38down.
6:38>> Dude, it it's so good. You you do have
6:40this ability to predict predict the
6:41future and now it's interesting because
6:43you've seen enough cycles,
6:45>> correct? where history does repeat
6:47itself. It just looks different in that
6:49way.
6:49>> The thing that I do well and people that
6:51I admire do well is they're is they're
6:53willing to talk about [ __ ] even if it's
6:56at the detriment of their short-term
6:58money.
6:59>> I think one of the things that I rather
7:00have that clip than make more money.
7:03>> And I think you guys now know this,
7:05you're in a point of your career where
7:06you're spending a lot of time with a lot
7:08of a players financially status. What I
7:11think you guys will see as you continue
7:13to roll. And by the way, I'm super
7:15pissed when all the youngsters try to
7:16call you [laughter] because you're still
7:18plenty young. You're very young on the
7:20bike. Mike,
7:22>> you're very young. And all these [ __ ]
7:2420-year-old Gary. Gary, he is 41,
7:27>> bro. He's a [ __ ] baby.
7:28>> Gary, Gary, he has no family or wife.
7:30>> Yeah, I I understand people come in here
7:31and try to criticize him. He's a [ __ ]
7:33player.
7:34>> Hell yeah, Gary.
7:35>> He's a [ __ ] player.
7:35>> [ __ ] yeah, Gary. [laughter]
7:37Finally, somebody on my
7:38>> like like Sorry. Like sometimes jigalows
7:40come around like he's a [ __ ] player.
7:42Like like I like you know like you know
7:45like like this is who he is. Like I
7:46understand some people want to get
7:47married at 25 and settle down and have
7:49like this man still has a couple of
7:51turns around the sun.
7:52>> Yeah.
7:53>> What do you want from him?
7:53>> A key word a couple. Hey dude, as to
7:56your point a lot of them and some of
7:57these people they settle down cuz they
7:59have to. Bro, I just don't got to do it.
8:00>> And he weaponized like detachment
8:02theory. [clears throat] Whatever the
8:02[ __ ] he throws out. It's not true. He's
8:04he's enjoying himself.
8:06>> He isn't this guy. the man's enjoying
8:09himself and like, "Oh, by the way, I
8:10laugh when dudes say shit." I'm like,
8:12"Right, you don't understand that he
8:14enjoys dating 25year-old smoke
8:17[laughter]
8:18shows." Like, what's the matter with
8:19you? No [ __ ] He enjoys it. Like, and
8:21and by the way, he's allowed
8:24>> and and this is actually an important
8:25conversation to level it up.
8:28>> This obsession
8:30>> with people trying to deploy on each
8:32other how they should live their [ __ ]
8:34life. Like, why don't we all just
8:36[ __ ] mind our own [ __ ] business
8:38and live our own lives? If you if you
8:40have if you have flowers to give, which
8:42is something I love doing, then [ __ ]
8:44give them. But if you got pot shots or
8:47your own insecurities are showing up
8:49with you digging on someone who you're
8:51actually envious of, I promise you,
8:53you've accomplished nothing. But Gary,
8:55that's hard for people. That's so hard,
8:56especially with social media, cuz all
8:59you're doing is seeing other people's
9:00lives and not just their lives, the
9:02highlight reels of their lives.
9:03Comparison is the thief of joy. People
9:05don't have joy, so they go to comparison
9:08to try to denigrate you or tear you down
9:10because it makes them feel better about
9:11themselves.
9:11>> Yes. And I understand. And so my point
9:13and what I'm hoping to put out there
9:15hoping just one [ __ ] person listening
9:17decides this is the time they stop being
9:19a [ __ ] is I I don't want them to do
9:22that because them [ __ ] on you or
9:24your brother or Mike or someone else is
9:27going to do zero for them to get out of
9:31the place they're in.
9:32>> Yeah. zero. In fact, it will only dig it
9:35in deeper.
9:37>> On top of that, I always thought that I
9:38had done a very good job since I got
9:40here in making sure I illustrated what
9:43my life looked like prior to all of this
9:45so that people understood the journey
9:48and understood like, okay, he was once
9:50exactly where I was. He was homeless. He
9:52was way worse. Way worse. Way worse. I
9:54was addicted to heroin. I was living on
9:55the degenerate. I wrote [laughter] I put
9:58that whole story out which hurt and
10:00didn't feel great at first to help the
10:02people that are then saying like
10:04>> most of Mike and I was watching it from
10:06far. We haven't really really chopped up
10:07the way I get to chop with him. Not only
10:09were you doing that, it was also helping
10:10you
10:11>> 100%.
10:11>> You know like for you know when I was
10:13watching you go through that I was like
10:14good for him because no one was going to
10:15weaponize anything on you. It's life is
10:19just the last scene of 8 Mile.
10:21>> Yeah. Like [laughter] if you're in a
10:22battle rap and you go first, [ __ ] on
10:25yourself first because it leaves the
10:26opponent nothing.
10:27>> Speechless. Takes all the smoke out of
10:29them.
10:29>> And like there's so many people we know
10:31that are not living their full joy or
10:33their full like offense on life cuz
10:36there's a skeleton or two in their
10:37closet that they know every day they get
10:40bigger, there's a chance today the day
10:42that someone's going to open that
10:43closet. I think people have to deploy
10:46more humility and more accountability.
10:49The what's amazing about all the people
10:51that we're looking at right now behind
10:52the camera and more importantly the
10:54millions that are going to watch us over
10:55the next decade is they all deep down
10:58know they've also [ __ ] up too. And
11:00humanity is very good at tearing people
11:02down.
11:03>> But in reality they're always ready to
11:06let you say you're sorry and make amends
11:09because deep down they know they've got
11:10flaws too. And I I wish people
11:13understood that more so they could
11:14become more accountable of their
11:15shortcomings
11:17which would then free them up to [ __ ]
11:19shine.
11:20>> The thing that you have and Logan was
11:22poetic, Gary. No, that was incredible.
11:24And you asking like wishing people had
11:26more and Logan asking why this isn't
11:28going to happen. Everything that you're
11:29delivering right now from that couch is
11:31delivered from someone who has lived
11:33life and has gained the wisdom of
11:34someone that's over the age of a certain
11:35age. You have to go through the [ __ ]
11:38>> I will say this. Lou, come here. I know
11:39this is weird. Come here, Lou. Get over
11:41here. Old Lou. Old Lou. Let's clap it up
11:43for old Lou.
11:44>> We call him old Lou.
11:46>> We call him old Lou. Not cuz he's old
11:48cuz we we uh
11:50>> We work We hang with his son. We call
11:52him Little Lou. So this is old Lou. Big
11:55suffice.
11:55>> We We do call Well, most people call him
11:57Big Lou. I like call me old Lou.
11:59>> Lou,
11:59>> you and I worked in the liquor business
12:01when I was stocking shelves. We met when
12:03I was what, 22 years old.
12:05>> 22 23. Yeah.
12:06>> Right. I just want Mike to hear this.
12:10Please explain to them what version of
12:12you're one of the few people that
12:13actually knew me because so few people
12:15actually knew me because I lived in a
12:17liquor store. I was Do you know Did you
12:19ever see Goonies?
12:20>> Of course.
12:20>> Yo yo yo yo yo yo. That guy right there.
12:23Stand up, Beamer. Stand up, Beamer. He
12:25owns the Goonies house.
12:26>> I'm very aware. I'm very aware of this
12:28story. He Bro, he talks I've talked to
12:31him and we've talked about this.
12:32>> I love telling people it's him, bro.
12:34He's the guy who owns the Goonies House.
12:35>> Sick, dude. [laughter] I as back back to
12:38hey you guys I was basically sloth from
12:4214 to 34. My dad basically had me
12:44chained in the basement
12:46>> of a liquor store for 20 years
12:48>> and I built a huge business for my
12:50father. This man watched me work 100
12:53hours a week 52 weeks a year. I'm not
12:58going to lead the witness.
12:59>> Couple hours a night breaking cards.
13:00>> Yeah. Once at a blue moon. The trading
13:02cards thing was always there. Lou,
13:04explain to them how old I was at 22.
13:08>> Jesus, man. This guy at 22 years old was
13:1145 years old.
13:12>> Damn.
13:13>> Um, the one of the most amazing
13:15operators I ever seen, one of the things
13:17that impressed me the most about Gary
13:18when he was 22. I mean, you guys see him
13:21today the way he is, right? When he was
13:2322, I watched how he treated his
13:25employees. You know, he treated his
13:27employees like, you know, back you
13:29thinking, you're talking 2000, 1999.
13:31People treated employees like [ __ ]
13:33>> Yeah. By the way, it wasn't this woke
13:35[ __ ] when we're supposed to be nice. We
13:36were like [ __ ] like people were dick
13:38face, right? Like you remember employees
13:40were like the [ __ ] help. Like you
13:41[ __ ] on them.
13:43>> I was a I was a dishwasher at TJ McKiffs
13:45in Milford. I
13:46>> This guy treated his employees like I I
13:48never seen like you know you all worked
13:50at companies where scared of your
13:51bosses. This guy treated everybody like
13:54family. wanted to know everything about
13:56him, wanted to know how they ticked, you
13:58know, and um I was just so impressed
14:00with him even early on, you know, like
14:02he says, I know him from the beginning,
14:03right? And I tell him every day, he's
14:04getting better and better every single
14:06day. But that what you hear today was
14:08there back then, too, when 22 years old.
14:10>> All right. Get out of here, Lou.
14:11>> Get out of here, Lou. We love you, Lou.
14:13Thank you, bro. [applause]
14:15>> Yeah. Yeah. Good job.
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15:54>> I didn't bring Luke for that for that
15:56validation. This is a cosign to my
15:58mother. I was that person at 22 because
16:01I have the most remarkable,
16:05disproportionately most phenomenal
16:08mother that has ever walked the [ __ ]
16:10face of the earth. That woman lost her
16:12mother at five, grew up in the [ __ ]
16:14Soviet Union. You have no [ __ ] clue
16:18how [ __ ] up the Soviet Union was.
16:20Everyone went to jail. The government
16:21owned everything. Everybody died at 50
16:24because everyone, you know, that we talk
16:25about Russians drinking vodka. They
16:27wanted to [ __ ] die.
16:29>> Yeah.
16:29>> Wow.
16:30>> They wanted to [ __ ] die.
16:32>> The whole country was a jail. Russ,
16:34where I was born, me, let alone my mom,
16:38is the only place on earth today that is
16:40similar is North Korea. You're not
16:42allowed to leave. The whole country is a
16:44jail. She lost her mother at five, grew
16:46up in a [ __ ] jail with a [ __ ]
16:48society, and yet the level of love she
16:52put in me, but not only that, the way
16:54she championed the way I treated people.
16:57The reason he knew that I'm not special,
17:00my mother's special, right? And so what
17:04you know is Gary Vee and you really know
17:06me behind the scenes in a way that most
17:07don't. You guys see the content. I
17:09understand the cynicism. People make
17:11jokes about me saying everyone's young
17:12and all that [ __ ] but who I am behind
17:15the camera is a better version than even
17:17who I am on camera. I really believe
17:19that.
17:19>> And more importantly, that is all based
17:22on a world-class mother. So all the Gary
17:24Vee content, all of it. It's just me
17:27trying to do a little something that's a
17:29version of what my mom did for me
17:31because I know all these [ __ ] kids
17:32that are listening right now, they get
17:34so much dog [ __ ] in the feed, so much
17:37[ __ ] the amount of content. Yo,
17:40homies that are watching right now, open
17:41up your [ __ ] social media. Go through
17:42the thing. Go through your [ __ ] feed
17:44for five minutes. I promise you 90% of
17:47the [ __ ] content is someone telling
17:49you who to blame for your [ __ ] up
17:52[ __ ] Go open up your [ __ ] phone
17:54right now. It's someone telling you, and
17:56if they're on the left or the right,
17:58they're the same [ __ ] Whether
18:00they're fully blue or fully [ __ ] red,
18:02they're the same [ __ ] pieces of [ __ ]
18:05to tell you that you should blame
18:07everything on someone else. The
18:09government, billionaires, immigrants,
18:11all dumb [ __ ] It's
18:12>> Fouchy this week.
18:13>> That's right. Like as if [ __ ] Fouchy
18:16has anything to do with your [ __ ]
18:17life. [laughter]
18:19And so,
18:19>> especially right now, especially 2026.
18:22>> So, with all this love, let me give you
18:23the realest love cuz it feels like
18:25[ __ ] poison.
18:27If your life sucks, it's 100% your
18:30fault.
18:31>> It's not your mom's fault. It's not your
18:33dad's fault. It's not America's fault.
18:36It's not [ __ ] Fouch's [ __ ] fault.
18:38It's your fault that you're believing
18:40it. And like for me, it's like I just
18:42want to give as much love because if you
18:44get love, then you get strong enough to
18:47stop pointing fingers. Then you go like
18:49this. And once you go like this, you
18:52have a [ __ ] chance. And my mom taught
18:54me that. And that's why I was that at
18:5622. And there's a lot of 22 year olds I
18:58meet that have [clears throat] wisdom,
19:00luck of the draw, DNA, luck of the draw
19:02of growing up with little hard work. At
19:0414 years old, I was working 12 hours
19:06[ __ ] Saturday at a liquor store.
19:08That's [ __ ]
19:09>> My dad should be in [ __ ] jail.
19:11>> Like, you know, like like it was like
19:13and so like, you know, I I just think
19:15that it's going through life whether
19:17you're 22 or 50 or 19. But a lot of
19:20people are overcodled. We have great
19:23luxuries. People spend all their time,
19:26to your point, worrying about what they
19:27don't have versus what they do have. You
19:30know, I sit on the board of pedestals of
19:32promise and charity water. There are 800
19:35million people, 800 million people right
19:37now, as we're doing this podcast, that
19:39do not have access to clean water. Me
19:41and Nick Dio, that beautiful man right
19:43now, we went to Ghana building [ __ ]
19:45schools for kids that if we didn't build
19:47those schools, they would sit under a
19:49[ __ ] tree with an old man from the
19:51village reading a book from 40 years
19:53ago. the same book every week.
19:55>> Like anybody watching or listening to
19:57this podcast is [ __ ] privileged,
19:59dick.
20:00>> Yeah.
20:01>> Yeah. [laughter]
20:01Hell yeah.
20:03>> Like like if you have time to listen to
20:05this dumb [ __ ]
20:06>> you should [laughter] not be complaining
20:08about for once it's not dumb [ __ ] No,
20:11this is this is actually good [ __ ] But
20:12you know it is it [clears throat] is
20:14funny the uh the idea of like putting
20:16putting your world into perspective I
20:19think can be such a a powerful thing if
20:21you can if you can understand like yeah
20:23we live a really blessed life and
20:24comfortable life. I don't I don't think
20:26people were able to take hot showers
20:28until like maybe like 70 years ago. And
20:30by the way, for the people that are
20:31winning or accomplishing, saying that
20:34you're blessed or like you have a good
20:36doesn't undermine, you know, what you've
20:39done or put it again
20:40>> like I just, you know, I don't this is
20:42how my brain works. I want to talk about
20:43this. Brother, you [ __ ] [ __ ] worked.
20:47>> Bro, from the day I met you when you
20:48came to New York for the first time to
20:50this moment, you [ __ ] worked.
20:52>> Yeah, I've been working,
20:52>> bro. You [ __ ] worked. Like these
20:54people that weaponize luck.
20:57Like I feel so horrible for people that
20:59weaponize the word luck. If you're
21:02weaponizing luck, you are you are very
21:04confused how the game is actually
21:05played.
21:05>> Like like oh he got lucky.
21:06>> Yeah. Yeah. Like physically like people
21:08are, you know, you are more conducive to
21:10be an athlete than others. I get like
21:12there's things that are serendipity and
21:13there's things. But bro, I have watched
21:15you for 15 [ __ ] years work and adjust
21:18and change. Two steps forward, one back,
21:21seven forward. You [ __ ] work, bro.
21:24When you started doing the wrestling
21:25thing, I grew up massive wrestling.
21:27Macho Man Randy Savage is my favorite
21:28person that's ever lived the face of the
21:31earth. Like literally, like
21:35when you started that, I was like, "This
21:38is a wrap. He's going to crush." Cuz I
21:40knew you could do the mic because that's
21:42what you do.
21:43>> But I was like, "No, this kid's just
21:44going to [ __ ] spend 9 trillion hours
21:46until he can [ __ ] do, you know, frog
21:48jumps from the top rope backwards." And
21:50like I just knew it.
21:51>> So funny. you you came on our podcast
21:53shortly after my Wrestlemania debut and
21:55we spoke about it and now you know
21:57[ __ ] five years later it's my full
21:59job. One of my favorite things, you
22:00know, one of my favorite things just to
22:02keep this full press glaze fest I'm
22:04giving you. [laughter] One of my fa one
22:06of my favorite things ever was because I
22:09love the wrestling fan community so much
22:11because they're like the they're like
22:12the people downstairs like all niche
22:14audiences, comic guys, wrestling guys,
22:16sports guys, anything new was like,
22:18"Fuck that bitch." Right? And when you
22:20came in, they're like, "Fuck this
22:22influencer." Right? And I'm like, "This
22:24guy's going to win these [ __ ] over."
22:26And I remember you pulled some move
22:28early on. It was
22:29>> it was the ricochet in the middle of
22:30that meeting.
22:31>> And I was just like I [ __ ] the second
22:34I saw it, I went right to Twitter and I
22:36watched all these [ __ ] people that
22:38[ __ ] hate you. They're like, man,
22:40he's all right.
22:42And I was like, you know what? Yeah.
22:43Like, but like Yeah, man. You're just
22:45[ __ ] happy. Let me let me pivot this.
22:48I appreciate that all the kind.
22:49>> Hey, you want to intro Gary Vee, by the
22:50way?
22:50>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is Gary
22:52Vee. Today's guy's one of the most
22:53influential entrepreneurs in the world.
22:54He's built multiple successful
22:55businesses, transformed the marketing
22:57industry, and has inspired millions with
22:58his nobullshit advice on business,
23:00branding, and life. GIVE IT UP FOR GARY
23:02B.
23:04[applause]
23:08>> Let me let me pivot the glaze into a
23:10question because it's happening with me
23:12now, which is weird because I [ __ ]
23:15love Pokemon. I've loved Pokemon my
23:17entire It's It was It was my first or
23:18second real love. It was like that in
23:20Harry Potter. I don't know which one. I
23:21don't remember which one came first. The
23:22first girl you loved.
23:24>> I mean,
23:24>> give her give her flowers. Give her
23:26>> No, I was an adult. We saw
23:28>> the first girl I loved was my wife.
23:29>> No, no, but I understand. But
23:30>> shout out, baby.
23:31>> Yeah. Yeah, but you didn't have a crush
23:33in not like love. Okay, not love. Like,
23:36let's get let's make some random girl in
23:38Ohio's life. Like, just say something.
23:40>> What's her name again?
23:40>> No, I can't do it. I'm married,
23:42>> bro. [ __ ] ridiculous,
23:44>> dude. What's the high school girl name
23:46first girl I fell in love with?
23:47>> The 987 girls you've loved in the last
23:49week. [laughter]
23:51Um um okay. So I I I'm in this I'm in
23:55this position now where I'm doing this
23:56Pokemon content. All of a sudden this
23:58year,
23:59>> not when I started doing Pokemon content
24:015 years ago.
24:02>> This year I'm getting the larer comment
24:04like like basically he's he's pretending
24:05to do this thing. And it's interesting
24:07cuz when I started on YouTube as a
24:09Viner, I was just laring YouTube. I was
24:11laring. I was I was get out of here
24:14Viner. Oh damn. Like okay, Daily
24:16Vlogger, you're a YouTuber. When I
24:17started with wrestling, it was the
24:20outsider. You're not allowed in until
24:21like, oh, he really cares. We let him
24:23in. And it's interesting because it
24:25happens in collecting and not just the
24:27Pokemon sphere, but
24:28>> uh sports, Pokemon, Magic, the guy. It's
24:31like there is a bit of gatekeeping that
24:33takes place. And it's interesting cuz
24:36>> why why why do I feel like I'm in a
24:39position where I have to prove myself?
24:40And also, how can I prove myself? And I
24:43I've realized that like it's nothing I
24:45do or say will ever affect the way these
24:47people think about me in in something
24:49they love in their community.
24:50>> It's when it's I always called it the
24:52band rule. Like this made make sense for
24:55some of the music fans. I saw it a lot
24:58when Pearl Jam and Nirvana got massive
25:00and and the internet was just coming
25:02around. Prodigy like there was bulletin
25:04boards and I watched like these people
25:07that literally watched Nirvana and Pearl
25:09Jam in [ __ ] bars in Seattle. 50
25:11people each when they became the biggest
25:14bands in the world start to [ __ ] on
25:15them. It's because the world got their
25:17thing.
25:18>> Yeah.
25:19>> Right. And when [clears throat] people
25:20are passionate about [ __ ] they don't
25:21want it to be [ __ ] with. They think
25:23it's theirs. I think it's a good thing,
25:25Logan.
25:25>> You do.
25:26>> And I'll tell you why. Basic. But by the
25:28way, I at this point in my life,
25:30anything I enter also, it will always
25:32happen. I've been We've been doing comic
25:34books for V friends for like a year and
25:35a half now. I'm like pet I'm scared of
25:38nothing except going to a comic
25:40convention because I know that crowd
25:42like I don't I don't I don't think
25:43anybody even knows we're doing comic
25:45>> you're you're very much the new guy
25:47>> always
25:48>> in in a in a legacy industry
25:50>> correct and and I'm a [ __ ] maniac.
25:53I'm like, I'm Stan Lee, [ __ ] Like,
25:55that's what I think. Like, I think I'm
25:57going to do it. And so, like, you can
25:59imagine they don't like it to begin
26:00with, and then I'm coming out like guns
26:02[ __ ] blade. Like, I'd be a great
26:04heel. You know what I mean? Like, you
26:06like like And so, like, I
26:09>> But I but I I
26:12definitely
26:13am empathetic. Like, because I do it
26:16with my love. You should see how I act
26:18when someone says they're a Jets fan.
26:21>> Oh, yeah. Name three players. You know
26:22what I mean?
26:23>> Name three players from 97. Like more
26:27like if you can't tell me what college
26:29Jason Fabini went to, [laughter] what
26:31number he wore, and like how many false
26:33starts he had his rookie year, like I
26:36will [ __ ] on you. So like,
26:37>> okay, I get it. That is, by the way,
26:39still my favorite thing about you is
26:40that you have you have been you are the
26:43most have to be the most famous Jets
26:45fan.
26:45>> I got to give Fireman Ed love cuz I cuz
26:47he's the OG. But like I am definitely
26:50out and about on my fandom. Like if the
26:52Jets obviously the Knicks just won a
26:54title which is unbelievable and and just
26:56the greatest and I was part of that but
26:58like when I tell you the delta for me
27:00between Jets and Knicks is substantial
27:03if the Jets win a Super Bowl.
27:04>> No, dude.
27:05>> No, Gary.
27:06>> I'm moving to North Korea and living
27:07there full time. [laughter]
27:09>> [ __ ] it. Like I got to do something
27:10outrageous.
27:11>> But I saw the videos when the Knicks
27:13won.
27:13>> Dude, I'm hyper.
27:14>> You were going crazy.
27:15>> No, no, they were my number They were
27:16like they were my number two and it was
27:18massive. But I'm telling you,
27:19>> I DON'T GIVE A [ __ ] It's like
27:21everything. It's like sports is the most
27:23insane, bro. Back to wrestling. When
27:25Macho Man lost the title to Hogan in
27:28Wrestlemania 5, I cried my eyes out.
27:31>> I hated Hulk Hogan for 20 years.
27:33>> What?
27:34>> Yes, BRO. HEY, [screaming]
27:36I'M SORRY. I used to do it in my vlogs.
27:39It's the entrance for my theme song. Hey
27:40yo, I'm sorry. I got two shirts up on
27:42WWE Shop fanatics right now. I hate
27:46Logan Paul. Yes, I am the one behind it.
27:49You're going to monetize the haters and
27:51still humble because after all, I am
27:52your humble king. And I'm going to stay
27:54humble because I'm just that humble. You
27:56can grab my shirts and all WWE merch,
27:58hats, tees, replica title belt,
28:01superstar collections on WWE shop and
28:04fanatics. Get yours today. Back to the
28:06show.
28:07>> So anyway, back to passion. You as
28:09someone who's going to always come in
28:11and you we have some similarities.
28:14You'll go into new [ __ ] because you want
28:15to.
28:15>> Yeah.
28:16>> You're going to put in the work. You're
28:18gonna disrupt it in some ways. You're
28:19gonna do it different. I think and I I
28:22could see it already. I thought the
28:24wrestling thing was one of it. You've
28:25got three to five more at bats where
28:27you're gonna enter stuff. You're going
28:30to get to a place where not only are you
28:32going to be able You've always been able
28:33to deal with it and you went through a
28:35lot of stuff early on that allowed you
28:37to like be able to deal with it. You're
28:38going to actually appreciate it.
28:41>> I do.
28:41>> You know what I mean?
28:42>> I totally do. Like you get it.
28:43>> I'll tell you what, bro. I am a
28:45storyteller at heart. I started telling
28:47stories with you in Jerome Jar when I
28:49was making vines. They started in
28:51sixsecond burst burst, but I'm a
28:53storyteller and um that conflict or or
28:57any setback in life now now like you can
29:00have an arc. You can have a character
29:02arc that people can buy into because
29:03it's relatable, bro. That's life. [ __ ]
29:05ain't going to be perfect. And yeah,
29:06you're going to get knocked down the
29:07mountain, but like
29:09>> put one foot in front of the other and
29:10start climbing that mountain again.
29:11>> Or don't have an arc and just be
29:12Voldemort. Like why do you have to why
29:15do you even have to have a he's got an
29:17arc? No, but I'm saying why do you even
29:18have to have a dude? The villains are
29:20like dude the Joker like be the villain,
29:23bro. Like you can still have the arc.
29:24>> Do you know how the Joker's thing plays
29:26out?
29:27>> You know how I got these scars.
29:29[laughter]
29:29>> Yeah. I mean, listen, at the end of the
29:31day, the truth is no one gives a [ __ ]
29:35All of this, no one gives a [ __ ] The
29:37second
29:37>> something bad happens to someone in your
29:39family, you don't give a [ __ ] about
29:41what's happening to your sports team.
29:42You don't care about yelling at some
29:44influencer. You don't care about sliding
29:46in DMs. Like none of this actually
29:49[ __ ] matters. So once you get to that
29:51level of simplicity, you know this. Both
29:53of you know this. I know enough about
29:55both of you. You start to realize at
29:57some point it all doesn't really [ __ ]
29:59even the m like it's just what do you
30:01really?
30:01>> Well, that's when you're really free and
30:03you could really start to manipulate the
30:04system. That's like that like unplugging
30:06from the matrix moment. Yeah.
30:08>> Like for me lately, I've I've been
30:09obsessed with this idea that like I
30:11don't really even think anything that
30:12happens in this dimension matters, dude.
30:14I'm I'm worried about what's going on
30:15next door parallel to this one. You know
30:17what I'm saying?
30:18>> No, I know. I know you get a little
30:19weird.
30:20>> No, but but honestly, I get it. I get
30:22it. Like, and like
30:23>> dude, I've already done so all this
30:25[ __ ] bro. Like,
30:26>> and that's when it just becomes noise.
30:28And then if you could flip my biggest
30:29thing is I don't want people that are
30:30winning, you two included, to get to
30:32this place where you're [ __ ] on the
30:34haters. I'm looking for people to deploy
30:36compassion and
30:37>> Gary Garrett Gary I start I started
30:38doing this. I say God bless him. God
30:41bless you, bro. You you clearly need you
30:43need like something's hurt people hurt
30:46people. You're hurt. God bless you.
30:47>> Yeah, bro. And then and then like what
30:49I'm I'm just asking you like how deep do
30:52you mean it?
30:53>> I mean it
30:53>> good. I I'll be honest. I was maybe a
30:57couple two three years ago I was kind of
30:59pretending because I saw you I saw you
31:01approach haters with empathy.
31:04I'm inherently combative. I'm like this.
31:06And then I really started going, "Oh, I
31:08I'm 31, bro. I'm an adult." I realiz
31:13and I'm not not sound mean like
31:16>> you something is hardwired in you
31:18incorrectly or or like you you because
31:20of the trauma or hardship you've had
31:22your life, you think you need to [ __ ] on
31:24someone else to make you feel better.
31:26God, like honestly, God bless you. You
31:28need it. or back to even more grace for
31:31everyone or in this moment they're not
31:33in a great place.
31:34>> Fair. Also fair,
31:35>> right? Some people actually have very
31:37significant trauma and we should deploy
31:39incredible empathy. Just again looking
31:41at everybody behind the cameras. Then
31:43there's also just like six-month windows
31:45or fouryear windows that are not just
31:46your best [ __ ] moment. And you're
31:48hurting enough that the only way to get
31:50a short moment of relief is to go into
31:53misery loves company and try to hurt
31:56someone else to fix that short-term
31:59pain. And for me, I you never really
32:01know when you're getting, you know, that
32:03energy towards you. Is this something
32:05really really deep and fundamental or is
32:07it just a chapter in time? And I think
32:10again like just realizing you're just a
32:14mirror for what they're about. If you
32:16can deploy that humility, if you can not
32:18take it personal, it really puts you in
32:20a real place. And then once you get over
32:22that hump, if you're in a place where
32:23you actually just want it better for
32:25them and you can give them a minute of
32:27your time. People just sometimes looking
32:29to be seen.
32:30>> Well, that's the other thing, too, is
32:31they're not even A lot [clears throat]
32:32of times the [ __ ] haters ain't even
32:34real haters. They just want likes.
32:36>> That's also true.
32:36>> And that's the worst part. I'm like,
32:38"Yeah, here we go." Dude, I feel I start
32:39to I start to feel bad for this guy that
32:41keeps saying that big gadget on my
32:43pictures, bro. He ain't even a real
32:45hater. He wants to [ __ ] elevate in
32:47the comments to get [ __ ] or something
32:49like that, bro. He's just trying to get
32:50some likes.
32:51>> Yeah, but good for him.
32:52>> Yeah, he got him. But I, you know, I
32:53start feeling bad. I start to I'll pour
32:55compassion, bro. I don't want your
32:56compassion. I'm trying to get some
32:58likes. And then a lot of times, too,
32:59you'll respond to him and be like, "Hey,
33:00man. I saw that comment where you said
33:02that I hope I I fall down a flight of
33:04stairs and bash my head into the stair
33:06rail and die, you know, and then you
33:08message me. You're like, "Yo,
33:08[clears throat] I know you're going
33:09through some [ __ ] I just want to let
33:10you know shit's going to get better."
33:11And they're like, "Yo, it's all good,
33:12bro. Can we take a selfie? I'm actually
33:14a huge fan." I'm like, "Then why' YOU
33:16SAY YOU want me to fall down the stairs,
33:17[laughter] bro?
33:19>> Just say you like my [ __ ]
33:20>> bro." Trolling trolling evolved into
33:23this thing that is like a form of
33:25entertainment and all this. It's all
33:27>> I don't like that part cuz I cuz you
33:29can't tell who's I don't
33:31>> say [ __ ] you to me in real life. Please.
33:32>> I don't like it because I think it's
33:34confusing a lot of 11, 12, 13 year olds.
33:36That's why I don't correct. I don't
33:38think those kids understand. And then
33:40they start thinking it's cool to be a
33:41dick face.
33:42>> And I just wish a lot of these,
33:45>> you know, internet dick faces got
33:46punched in the mouth once real good. So
33:49like people were far less ridiculous in
33:51the 80s because if you talk the kind of
33:52[ __ ] you talk in [ __ ] Twitter now,
33:54you actually got punched in the mouth.
33:56And I think like more people should get
33:58punched in the mouth.
33:58>> I agree. We had this exact conversation
34:01yesterday. Like it's the it's the phones
34:03to be honest with you.
34:04>> Bro, there's literally people downstairs
34:05as you're walking right now asking you
34:07for a selfie that an hour ago left the
34:09negative comment. Like to you like
34:11they're your biggest fans. It's Stan,
34:12bro. It's all Eminem, bro. It's always
34:14been Eminem.
34:15>> It's always been Eminem. Wait, so Gary,
34:17how old is too old? Because like you you
34:18do the death, bro.
34:19>> No, bro. I saw some guys come up to you
34:21and said,
34:22>> you're like, "Man, you're young, bro.
34:23How how how old are you?" And he's like,
34:24"I'm 47." And in my head I was like,
34:27>> "Yeah, bro." Because you're not as smart
34:28as you think you are.
34:29>> Me?
34:30>> Yeah, you.
34:30>> I didn't say I was smart.
34:31>> You just made a face. You said you did
34:32make a funny face.
34:33>> You said you were 31 and grown.
34:34>> Yeah, I feel so grown.
34:36>> Yes, you you're much more grown than
34:38when you first hit the
34:39>> Wait, wait. I do want to say I am pretty
34:40[ __ ] smart, bro.
34:41>> You are very smart.
34:43>> Wait, you're saying I'm not as smart as
34:44I think.
34:44>> If you think 47's a rap, you're a
34:46[ __ ] idiot.
34:47>> Let me see. Let me Let me
34:48>> How old is MC Jagger right now?
34:49>> No, no, no, no, no. I'm more asking you
34:51>> 87. Cuz if someone told me like uh
34:56>> cuz you you you still you tell them
34:58they're young.
34:59>> I believe it.
35:00>> You do.
35:00>> First of all,
35:01>> okay. Okay. Wait. I'm saying. What age
35:02are you like? Like like if they're like
35:03I'm 75. You're not going to be like
35:05you're young, bro.
35:06>> 90s. Bro,
35:06>> if a 96y old rolled up on me right now
35:08and be like, "Yo, can I do it?" I'm
35:10like, "Bro, [laughter] like,
35:12>> yo, I swear to God, I'm going to send
35:14neighbor Suz's mother to Gary who's 103
35:17and I'm and I'm going to prompt her to
35:19ask him, "Am I can I still do it, Gary?
35:20And I want to see what you say.
35:22>> But but bro, but bro, on real talk, if
35:25103 Susie comes to me and she's like,
35:27"Gary, can I do it?" And I'm like, "No."
35:29Like, there's a chance she dies the next
35:31day
35:31>> or on the spot cuz you disappointed her.
35:33>> Yeah. Because like she's like,
35:34[laughter] "Right. That'd be a real
35:36>> or even worse proves you wrong and does
35:37it."
35:39>> Do you know what I'm saying? That would
35:40be even the wor like like Kea's on
35:42Hazel. She got a Tweety Bird.
35:44>> But I I don't understand how people like
35:45like it's not complicated. Like first of
35:48all, couple things. The reason I say it
35:50to this generation looking at all these
35:51young faces is does anyone understand
35:53what's going on with modern medicine?
35:55People are going to live for [ __ ]
35:56>> But are we even sure Brian Brian Johnson
35:58say he's going to leave to 200? Have you
35:59seen that guy lately? Dude, I don't know
36:01if he's going to make it to 46. Come on.
36:03By the way,
36:04>> guys, that's my guy.
36:05>> He's melting away. He's got 40
36:07autoimmune viruses.
36:09>> By the way,
36:09>> what do you do?
36:10>> He made a baby a baby Brian Johnson in a
36:12petri dish. He's going to rerow his own
36:13organs.
36:13>> Listen to me. I don't think anyone's
36:15lost on this. Like, let's just use a
36:18little bit of common sense. 60 and 70
36:20year olds today versus what 60 and 70
36:23year olds look like 30 years ago is not
36:25even [ __ ] recognizable.
36:26>> There's a picture There's a picture of
36:28me and Hulk Hogan. It was what
36:29[clears throat] 30-year-olds look like
36:30now and what 30-year-olds look like
36:32then.
36:32>> Crazy photo.
36:33>> Yes, bro. I get all that. Look at the
36:35[ __ ] Golden Girls.
36:37>> Those ladies were supposed to be in
36:38their 60s. They look like 290, you know?
36:40[laughter] Like, like the world has
36:42[ __ ] changed. And I'm saying shit's
36:45going to keep going. Like you at 80,
36:47you're going to have like a robotic
36:48[ __ ] arm. You're going to be a
36:50maniac.
36:50>> Oh yeah.
36:51>> Right. You guys, this is why you're all
36:53>> Oh, I'm going to extend my telomeres and
36:54>> you're going to look [laughter] like a
36:55[ __ ] power ranger.
36:56>> Gary Gary, here's what I Here's what I
36:57realized.
36:59>> My main goal is just to outlive the
37:01haters.
37:02>> You want them to die.
37:03>> Well, you say that I I want I' I'd
37:06prefer they die first.
37:07>> I get it. Because because when someone
37:10passes away, you know, like like
37:12>> people if they don't like you are going
37:14to [ __ ] on you. They'll they'll [ __ ] on
37:17you.
37:17>> I saw you speaking at a funeral
37:18recently.
37:19>> Oh god. Well, okay. Okay. So, it wasn't
37:22a funeral. It was a celebration. And And
37:25>> that's what he wanted.
37:26>> Dude, if you knew Oliver, you would
37:28understand. I know.
37:29>> He would want us to [ __ ] flame him
37:33postmortem. And I knew that. All of his
37:35friends knew that. His family knew it.
37:37We all talked about it. We're going to
37:39[ __ ] on Oliver and we all did. My My two
37:42first jokes were brutal, though.
37:44>> I took one I took one out from his
37:46thing.
37:46>> Yeah. Then I added
37:47>> You had a bad one. I added
37:48>> I said, "No, no, that one's not going to
37:50work."
37:50>> I did. I did.
37:50>> It was about Oliver's impact on the
37:52planet.
37:52>> Punch line being for the people that are
37:54listening right now, like it is asinine
37:57to decide you don't have time to have a
37:59better day. It is [ __ ] idiotic
38:02whether you're 60, 70, 80, or 90 to sit
38:04on your [ __ ] couch and be like, "I'm
38:0768 years old. My life's over. I [ __ ]
38:10it up. It's over. This [ __ ] sucks."
38:13The [ __ ] are you supposed to do with
38:15that?
38:15>> The [ __ ] do you think? How do you think
38:16they show up the next day?
38:18>> Like, great. You guys think I think that
38:20people like, you think it's silly? Knock
38:23yourself out. I know unlimited people in
38:27their [ __ ] 70s and 80s building
38:29[ __ ] empires.
38:30>> Mhm.
38:31>> And so do you.
38:32>> I do. I do. And and I admire them. I
38:34admire their energy and how they're
38:35still doing. I'm tired, Gary. I'm tired,
38:37bro.
38:37>> You're not tired, bro.
38:38>> You got to help me.
38:38>> You're not tired. Exhausted.
38:39>> You're drinking Prime.
38:40>> You're right.
38:42[laughter]
38:45>> How do you feel now? Hold on. Wait. Here
38:47we go. And
38:48>> I'm wired.
38:49>> There we go.
38:50>> I'm ready to [laughter] go.
38:50>> From tired to wire.
38:51>> I am absolutely in All right. Gary.
38:52Gary, real quick.
38:54>> Collectibles.
38:55>> Yes.
38:55>> Mass massive collector. Got me into into
38:57Pokemon for literally forever grateful.
38:59Like I'm not I'm not one of those people
39:00who forgets. I'm so grateful. You
39:04kickstarted this Pokemon journey. All it
39:05took was you lighting lighting a flame.
39:07Um
39:09>> market is hot right now. It's hotter
39:10than it's ever been. Are are uh are new
39:13collectors or Yeah. Are the are new
39:16collectors
39:17>> and investors going to get caught?
39:18>> Are they going to be surprised when the
39:20market does what it does and and
39:21fluctuates? Yeah, I think so. But I
39:23think again
39:25collectibles
39:26is is redot and is no longer nerdy. It's
39:31becoming cool, which is a [ __ ] brain
39:33twist,
39:34>> you know? Like like cool kids like you
39:3640 years ago. We're not talking about
39:38[ __ ] nerd culture.
39:40>> Me?
39:40>> Yeah.
39:41>> I was I was
39:41>> the 30 No, no, you were. First of all,
39:44you were one 30 years ago. Second of
39:46all, you know, I'm talking about in
39:48culture in culture 30 years ago. Nobody
39:52that was cool the way you're cool today
39:53would ever talk about your culture,
39:55right? Oh yeah.
39:56>> So that's a huge cross. That's a very
39:58big deal going forward of why it's gonna
40:01be big.
40:01>> But when you double click in So
40:04collectibles will continue to grow and
40:06more things will become collectibles,
40:08video games, different stuff like it
40:10will happen.
40:10>> Yeah.
40:11>> Individual things will go up and down.
40:13>> Okay.
40:13>> Right. Tyler's investing into Harry
40:15Potter and one of the things he's
40:17betting on is that HBO Max's thing
40:19that's coming out on Harry Potter is
40:20gonna crush. But maybe it isn't good.
40:22Maybe a lot of people don't watch it.
40:24And then maybe the people like Tyler
40:26that are speculating on Potter right
40:27now, it'll go down cuz it didn't go hot.
40:30But maybe in six years Potter will have
40:32a new movie. Everybody's crazy about it
40:34and it will go up. So in the micro poke
40:36I mean Pokemon's ripping.
40:38>> Yeah.
40:39>> Ripping. Like you always ask how much
40:41more, how much more, more. But
40:44individual things will eb and flow,
40:46right? Like cards, like there's a lot of
40:48categories that are primed to do well. I
40:50think comics,
40:52>> vintage comics, not my new [ __ ] Vintage
40:54comics primed to do well because they
40:56haven't exploded as much. uh coins. If
40:59you watch whatn not you guys are doing
41:01rip like live shopping you could see
41:03coins which has always been like if you
41:05go to the coin show in Pittsburgh in a
41:07couple weeks it's all 90 year old real
41:0990 year olds walking [laughter] around
41:11but just I went to this show in 2017 in
41:14Cleveland this is a fact what I'm about
41:16to tell you there was less than 100
41:18people under 25
41:19>> the national
41:20>> the national in 2017
41:22>> no [ __ ] way
41:22>> yes sir
41:23>> like a night like a nights at columb
41:26behind the scene I called him like
41:27there's nine people under
41:28>> my god that's insane So think about
41:30right. So I think I think in the macro
41:32collectibles are going to go crazy and
41:34will continue because I think it's
41:35joining music and sports and fashion as
41:37like a as a cultural thing but
41:39individually is somebody right now as
41:41we're sitting here downstairs going to
41:43spend $50,000 on something that in 12
41:45months will be $30,000. Of course.
41:47>> Yeah. Hell yeah.
41:48>> Like so individually there's
41:49vulnerability in the macro it's a very
41:52big market.
41:52>> How long do you think it's going to be
41:54before pogs come around? as a as a as a
41:57pog collector myself.
42:00>> Well, slammers especially, dude. Shout
42:02out to anybody with a hot slammer out
42:04there. But
42:04>> while we're doing it, I am ready to
42:06bring Beyblades back back. If anyone
42:08knows Beyblades.
42:09>> Yeah, bro. It's all riff, bro. Yeah,
42:11let's rip that [ __ ]
42:12>> bro. Everything. The reason everyone's
42:15yelling different things, Beanie Babies,
42:16silly bands, [ __ ] all all of it. The
42:19Lego
42:20>> Legos. Legos are hot.
42:20>> Legos are Legos are hot.
42:22>> Legos was a bad one. You're out. Can we
42:23take them out of here?
42:24>> Legos have never [laughter] been down.
42:25like, you know, but but like you know,
42:28like the the reality is is that
42:30everything es and flows, everything
42:31cycles, um the reason everyone just
42:34threw out the things is because
42:35nostalgia and the memory of your
42:38childhood is so [ __ ] ingrained
42:41>> that when I say Care Bears or Max Hedrum
42:44or Alby Pocket Kirby Pocket
42:48that 91 World I had the Kirby Pocket
42:51rookie. It was important. I remember at
42:53one point it was up to Yeah, at one
42:54point it was up to like 63 bucks, dude.
42:56>> And I had that thing in a in a full
42:59screw on your screw remember the screw
43:01on protectors and my
43:03>> That was your future cuz what it just
43:05it's cycles. It cycles and actually one
43:08of the biggest things I try to do
43:10>> at a show like this when things are hot
43:11is I try to zig when everyone's zagging.
43:13>> I'm trying to think like what could
43:15actually be hot in three years that no
43:17one's [ __ ] buying downstairs.
43:20I think, you know, I'm going to get very
43:22specific. I think Panini inserts from
43:25the early Panini stuff now that Topps
43:27has the license for a long time. Not Not
43:29like Kaboom, which is like, you know,
43:31are you going to have a Kaboom in WB
43:33East? I That would be huge,
43:34>> bro. If you have a [ __ ] Logan Kaboom,
43:37I'll go crazy.
43:38>> Let me Let me Let me tell I'll tell you
43:39this much. I'm trying to be very
43:41specific about what I look like on
43:44trading cards because I care so much
43:47about the
43:48>> Who are you who are you telling when I
43:49called you?
43:50>> I know. I know. I know. I'm so sorry.
43:52I'm sorry.
43:52>> and asked you to be in this set in the
43:54content Condors insert. You said no.
43:57>> He He resents me for [ __ ] You know
43:59who said yes?
44:00>> My brother. My brother.
44:01>> Jake Paul is in this product. one of the
44:03great Pauls of all time [laughter]
44:06>> who I did less for even though I did
44:08invest in coach in team nine or 10 or
44:10whatever the [ __ ] he [laughter] may
44:12>> Yeah. How'd that work out for you?
44:13>> Jake Jake's pretty liberal with his name
44:15and likeness.
44:16>> Yeah. [laughter]
44:17>> Um I just Well, even
44:21just to just to make you feel less bad,
44:24>> I'm doing that right now with the WWE.
44:27I'm like, "No,
44:29>> like no nah, I got to this. I I just
44:31care so much. I'm so scared cuz like
44:34this is my number one passion in my
44:35life. Cards, collectibles.
44:37>> I get it. So I I take no Please don't
44:39resent me. No, no resentment. Just I
44:41will remember it and I WILL USE IT.
44:43>> I WILL USE it when I need it.
44:45>> I think you're because Dude, I I do I
44:48put it like this. I owe you not just
44:49one. I owe you two big favors.
44:51>> Yeah. I would say like if I think about
44:52all the years like
44:54>> five, you know how I cash me in. I'm
44:56ready. I'm ready for cash.
44:57>> You know when I throw up the five in all
44:58my photos, I always do that. Yeah.
45:00That's the amount of favor. That's more
45:01that was for you. That I was always
45:02doing that for you.
45:03>> Okay, bro. But I'm ready. I'm ready.
45:04You're not You're not cashing him in.
45:05You're not asking for anything.
45:06>> I I tend not to,
45:07>> bro. Ask me for my great goal. What do
45:09you mean?
45:10>> Nothing, man.
45:10>> I shook your son's hand today. He didn't
45:11give a [ __ ] bro.
45:13>> He's like, "Yeah, whatever."
45:14>> Yeah, bro. His dad's Gary Vee. Like,
45:16what do you want from him? [laughter]
45:17[ __ ] YOU THINK LOGAN PAUL? What the
45:20[ __ ] bro?
45:23>> Talk [ __ ] to me.
45:24>> Look, you know this. I'm going to manage
45:25you at some point and we'll get it done.
45:27I've always like Bobby the Brain Heenan.
45:29I'll have my chapter. Oh, it was. It's
45:30been written.
45:31>> Cash in a favor. I'm ready.
45:32>> We'll clip this in seven years when I
45:33hit [ __ ] Tom Brady with a steel
45:35chair.
45:35>> Yeah. Hell yeah.
45:36>> For payback.
45:37>> For payback.
45:37>> [ __ ] yeah. You You get us back, I'll get
45:39his front.
45:40>> Let's go.
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46:36moment. Back to the show. As we said,
46:39[ __ ] is hot right now. How is V friends
46:41going to break through?
46:43>> Slowly. You know what's cool about me is
46:45like the [ __ ] I put out online is like
46:47how I actually live. Like I'm big on
46:48patience. Like I think it takes time.
46:50Like V friends will blow out when these
46:52comics get optioned for film and
46:54television. And God willing, if one of
46:57them hits, then the whole calculus of
47:00the IP changes.
47:01>> Have you considered making hybrids of
47:04your animals
47:06>> and putting it on the blockchain?
47:07>> Of course.
47:08>> I'm just kidding.
47:09>> I'm very aware. I know exactly what
47:11you're saying,
47:11>> brother. Don't do that.
47:13>> Don't do that.
47:14>> You remember I passed. I understand.
47:15>> I remember. Holy [ __ ] I Yes. Yes. Yes.
47:18You should have told me to pass, too.
47:19didn't pass on [ __ ] wolf game. I'll
47:21tell you that boy. [laughter]
47:23>> I have massive wolf game. I'm a huge
47:25follow. You
47:25>> know how much wool I HAVE? HOW MANY
47:27DEVIL [ __ ] WOLVES I HAVE?
47:28>> WOOL. No wool. Gary wool. I have
47:30>> Let's talk about NFTs for a sec. I do
47:32want to talk about NFTs because uh man,
47:34I don't know why I still really believe
47:37in the idea of a valuable digital asset.
47:40>> Why wouldn't you? the, you know, I'm
47:42aware that 98% of the world thinks that
47:44it was a scam and a fad, including
47:46everybody probably behind the camera,
47:47but math doesn't lie. If every single
47:50person that's listening to this podcast
47:51right now goes to OpenC, clicks,
47:53collections, and looks at the sheer
47:55volume of NFTts being sold every day,
47:58they would [ __ ] their [ __ ] hands
48:00today.
48:01>> What kind of volume?
48:03>> Hundreds of thousands, millions of
48:04dollars a day.
48:05>> What? Still?
48:06>> Yes. And everyone on Earth, Think about
48:08that volume. Think about that volume
48:11when literally every person on Earth
48:13walking thinks it was a fed, a scam, a
48:16loss. So it did the blockchain digital
48:20collectible thing will be massive. I am
48:23thrilled to clip this in nine years and
48:24be like it's a collectible, bro.
48:27>> I agree.
48:28>> It's a collectible.
48:28>> I agree. It's a shame. But but if you
48:31remember when I was making the videos
48:33about NFTTS, everybody likes to
48:35conveniently forget all the videos I
48:37made that said 99% of these are going to
48:39zero.
48:39>> Yeah, of course.
48:40>> Blockchain did 750 grand in the last 24
48:43hours.
48:43>> 700 panini blockchain.
48:45>> Wow.
48:45>> So did 750 just Panini blockchain.
48:49>> Panini
48:50>> blockchain
48:52>> did 750,000 in the last 24 hours. People
48:54watching and listen to this podcast
48:56don't think that $750,000 worth of all
48:59NFTs have been sold in the last six
49:01months.
49:01>> Yeah.
49:02>> But this is what you do when you zigg
49:03and zag. Like it's not because I want
49:06like that. I own zero panini NFTs on the
49:10record. It's I'm saying this not because
49:12I want it to work out. This is not my
49:15hopes and dreams or my feelings. This is
49:18called [ __ ] math. M
49:20>> go there and look and tell me if people
49:22are buying board ape and V friends and
49:24Pudgy Penguins, right?
49:26>> Or tell me if they're not. And you know
49:27what's awesome about the blockchain?
49:29Unlike what goes on with physical cards
49:31when people make people like to claim
49:33like, "Oh, Logan Logan had his friend
49:35buy it or this and that, all this, the
49:37blockchain's [ __ ] transparent."
49:40>> So look, what do I think? I think
49:44>> I've always compared NFTTS to web 1.0
49:46No,
49:47>> when internet for all the kids in here,
49:49when internet stocks came out in 2000,
49:51everything was worth a trillion dollars,
49:53even if the company did zero revenue.
49:55Pats.com, there was and all those stocks
49:57were on the [ __ ] stock exchange,
49:59NASDAQ and New York Stock Exchange, and
50:01they were $150 a share. And then April
50:032000, all of it went to [ __ ] zero.
50:07Literally zero. Out of business, three
50:09cents a share from $500 a share. Except,
50:13you know who was in that mess?
50:14>> Google.
50:15>> Amazon. eBay, PayPal, they went from
50:19$150 a share to $3 because everything
50:21fell along with it.
50:23>> But the three or four or seven or 14
50:25companies that were legit companies of
50:27the internet era went on to become some
50:29of the biggest companies in the world.
50:30There will be three to four to seven
50:32projects
50:34from that 2021 era that in 20 years will
50:37be the Jackson Pollocks and the Andy
50:39Warhols, all the contemporary art from
50:41the 60s that went to zero except Bosot
50:44sells for hundreds of millions. Yeah.
50:46>> So, what everyone got confused with is
50:48they were like NFTTS.
50:50>> That'd be like saying all trading cards
50:52are worth a million dollars. Most are
50:54worth nothing.
50:54>> Yeah.
50:55>> Individual NFTts in 20 years will be
50:58worth something. The the question is are
51:01you good enough to pick the winners?
51:02That's hard.
51:03>> Yeah. That's that's that's uh that's the
51:04that's the taste.
51:05>> Yeah. Punks is guaranteed.
51:07>> Punks is in
51:08>> it's the only one that is guaranteed
51:10because it's based on history. Every
51:12other one, Be Friends, Penguins, you
51:14know, uh, Isuki, Board Ape, all the
51:17other ones need the operator to build
51:19it. I can tell you if as long as God
51:22keeps me alive, V friends will win
51:25because I'm a [ __ ] gangster.
51:28>> I'm an operator. I'm good at what I do.
51:31The end.
51:32>> Yeah. Yeah, you're good. I think I I
51:35could say the same about originals. I
51:37feel so good about that that Polaroid
51:38project that you're in, actually.
51:39>> Yeah.
51:40>> Number five, the floor. I think like
51:42it's probably 7 to 10 ETH.
51:43>> Yeah, it's solid. But but it's it's
51:45funny cuz like I I just don't see it
51:47seems inevitably the idea of digital a
51:50digital valuable asset. Like
51:51>> by the way, back to what Tyler just
51:52said, if Panini keeps cooking, the rest
51:54of the like IPs down there will start
51:56getting involved and there's eventually
51:58a day where the stink of NFTTS will go
52:01away. The stink of guys, the newspapers
52:05around the country put the web was a
52:07fad.
52:08>> Are you serious, Gary?
52:09>> Yes, bro.
52:09>> Oh my god. It was that much carnage.
52:11>> Oh my god.
52:12>> The internet itself was a fad.
52:14>> Yeah, that was a huge That was a That
52:16was like the main story
52:18>> for a little while. And then in 2005,
52:21Web 2.0 came. That's where me and AJ
52:23cooked. That's when the Flickers and the
52:25Deliciouses precursed
52:27the Facebooks and the Twitters and the
52:29whole world changed.
52:30>> Oh, that's insane.
52:32It is. It is. It is. So, it is so cool
52:34to
52:35>> Yes. I passed on Uber twice and missed
52:37out on $500 million. There you go.
52:38There's the story.
52:38>> Thanks a lot, Jeff. Yeah, my brother
52:41literally took the first Uber in
52:42Manhattan. The [ __ ] email hangs in my
52:44office.
52:45>> Damn, Gary.
52:46>> Bro, we dis We found you, bro.
52:48>> Yeah,
52:49>> we found you.
52:49>> Yeah, that's crazy. [laughter] That's
52:51crazy.
52:52>> Like,
52:53>> you know it. You were in you were there
52:56when we were like and Snapchat and all
52:58this. You were there.
52:59>> It's so nice to have these conversations
53:00with you because you you've you've seen
53:02the cycles. And it's so funny cuz I was
53:06doing Pokemon in 2020 and then I saw the
53:09dip in 22 23 24 and I was like okay but
53:13I still love Pokemon so this [ __ ] don't
53:14matter but like the market's not as good
53:16as it was and then it popped and now I'm
53:19seeing like oh this is what a cycle is.
53:21>> Let's also teach people something. The
53:22reason it was okay for you is because of
53:24all your hard work you were able to
53:26afford it going down and you didn't have
53:28to sell.
53:28>> Well said. I want to say this out loud
53:30to everybody who's going to get into
53:31collectibles or or cryptocurrency or
53:34real estate or stocks. You must play
53:37with money you can afford to lose
53:39because then when there's a dip, you're
53:42not forced to sell and you can catch it
53:44on the next thing. Pokemon worked out
53:46for you because that you were at a point
53:47of your career where you were making
53:49money elsewhere and you could sit. Y
53:51>> there's a lot of kids downstairs right
53:53now that have their entire net worth in
53:55the cards that they're walking around in
53:57a case. Actually,
53:58>> that's right. And if the market goes
54:00down 30 40%, they'll get scared and
54:02they'll sell everything and they'll sell
54:04some massive Mahomes and massive other
54:06cards that will then go up again one day
54:09and they'll regret it. So, one of the
54:10things that people have to be taught is
54:12how to manage their dollars, how to
54:14understand the good times are not always
54:16rolling. And this is good financial
54:18simplistic advice. And that is the thing
54:21that I hope people learn because people
54:23overextend themselves when they think
54:25it's easy money. Well, [clears throat]
54:27and they don't keep ammo and they don't
54:30keep ammo on the sidelines for when the
54:32market does drop because you don't want
54:33to just be able to hold. You want to be
54:35able to buy a shitload of blood that
54:37>> in fact, let's just do a PSA that I hope
54:39helps everyone, everyone listening that
54:41is like deep right now into
54:43collectibles, Pokemon cards, what have
54:45you. Sell one or two things that you're
54:47not completely attached to that has a
54:49lot of value and take those dollars and
54:51just put them on the side so you can
54:53weather the storm to keep the [ __ ] that
54:55you [ __ ] love. put in like high
54:57interest savings and get 4% on it until
54:59it until you're ready to
55:00>> do what my dad does. Bury it in the
55:01backyard Russian style like [laughter]
55:03like just straight gangsters. Put the
55:05cash in the mattress. [ __ ] No, no,
55:07bro. That's not enough for Russians.
55:08They bury that [ __ ] in the All the
55:10Russians, please hit up uh everybody,
55:12every Russian over 45, go on Twitter
55:15right now and tell all these Americans
55:16[laughter] the truth. They bury the
55:17[ __ ] cash in the backyard in a
55:20[ __ ] jar cuz that's in the Soviet
55:22Union, bro. They could take your [ __ ] a
55:25glass jar
55:25>> for, by the way, PSA for everyone who
55:27like loves socialism.
55:28>> Eventually, they'll take your [ __ ] too.
55:31[laughter]
55:31>> They're gonna take your [ __ ] too.
55:33>> They'll take Logan's first, and that
55:35will make you feel good. And then you're
55:37going to wake up and they're going to
55:38take your [ __ ] too.
55:39>> No, no, no. [laughter]
55:40>> Um Um Uh, you you know we're building
55:42Ripet. This is the last thing I want to
55:44ask you. You know, we're building Ripet.
55:45Uh
55:45>> yes, you called me.
55:46>> Yep. Yep. I called you and asked you
55:47Well, I asked you about I think what the
55:48next phase could be.
55:49>> I like where you're going.
55:50>> Um which I think could be could be big
55:52and I'll call you again. Don't pass on
55:54it unless you Yeah. But you you invested
55:56in in uh one of our competitors which
55:58which is uh which is cool. It's cool to
56:00say cuz now we're in the space.
56:02>> Um what what is what is your general
56:04opinion on repacks and and live shopping
56:05and entertainment shopping?
56:07>> Repacks I've done so little actual
56:09homework on like I'm aware what it is.
56:11Of course I'm in the game but like I
56:12don't know have a hot take on that.
56:14>> Live shopping I've been very vocal for,
56:17you know, I would say over 50 people
56:19have come to the V Friends booth here
56:20and thanked me for changing their life
56:22again. Wow.
56:23>> On just live shopping.
56:25>> Wow.
56:25>> People have come up to me and said,
56:26"Literally, I heard you 6 months ago.
56:28Here's my whatnot numbers showing me
56:29like 3 million like like changed their
56:32lives." Here's the cool part. When when
56:35we met each other, I was already nine.
56:38>> Vine was what 14 15 16
56:41>> 2013
56:42>> 13 I was already eight years into
56:45publicly talking about social media.
56:48>> Wow. And the people that had followed me
56:50for a long time thought in 2013 were
56:52like, "Oh, Vine, like I'm already too
56:54late to do it." And that was your day
56:56one.
56:57>> Wow.
56:58>> There I'm telling everyone who's
57:00watching right now, live shopping has
57:02not even begun.
57:03>> It has not begun. And not because I
57:06wanted to. Let's talk numbers. In China,
57:10live shopping this year will
57:12[clears throat and snorts] do over $1
57:13trillion$1
57:15trillion
57:17>> in product. I think it accounts for like
57:1930% of commerce.
57:20>> And here's what's confusing people. For
57:21the last 50 years of technology, the
57:24West has brought things to the east. We
57:27would innovate in America and bring it
57:29to the world. Over the last 10 years,
57:31we've seen China now lead and bring
57:34things to the world. Bite dance. Tik Tok
57:36changed social
57:37>> co.
57:38>> Right. So, are you going to conspiracy
57:40theories?
57:41>> Fouchy.
57:42>> Yeah. [laughter] Okay. Fouchi is why I'm
57:44not making money. You [ __ ] [ __ ]
57:46Shut the [ __ ] up. Um,
57:49K-pop. [clears throat] Like, if you ever
57:51if if you couldn't like I would have
57:54never predicted 15-year-old blonde girls
57:56in a in Iowa loving Asian dudes with
58:00[ __ ] weird hair. Like, you could
58:01never predict that.
58:02>> K-pop was
58:03>> you could never predicted that. So,
58:04Asia's influence is coming. Latin
58:06America, you know, you know, cultures
58:09coming with music, Bad Bunny, all that.
58:11Jay Balvin, like you could see the world
58:13melting. pot is getting bigger because
58:15of the way the world is structured
58:16around social. But anyone watching right
58:19now who's like here's an example as
58:21little as what I'm about to say.
58:23Somebody watching who could use an extra
58:24thousand bucks literally go on TikTok
58:27live or on whatnot and literally
58:30literally sell $1,000 worth of [ __ ]
58:33laying in your [ __ ] basement. You
58:35could literally go live and be like this
58:38shoe 20 bucks and people will buy it. I
58:42don't know if you know this, people are
58:44degenerates when it comes to shopping.
58:46People just buy [ __ ] because they're
58:47[ __ ] It's just human. It's [ __ ]
58:50human. So, live shopping has not even
58:52started. And every person listening can
58:55[ __ ] change the course of their lives
58:58by becoming a live shopping host. And
59:00the way that you grab the bull by the
59:02horn on Vine and it fundamentally ch Do
59:06you know how different your life would
59:07have been if you were 40 years earlier?
59:09>> There was no outlet.
59:10>> Yeah. You would have been in [ __ ]
59:12Ohio [ __ ] doing Ohio [ __ ]
59:14>> I know. I know. So weird, [laughter]
59:15right? So weird to think about.
59:16>> So everybody who's listening right now,
59:18listen, a lot of people were not meant
59:21to be, you know, content creators cuz
59:23they're not good enough, but some of
59:24those people are meant to be the best
59:26live sellers in the world. Yeah.
59:28>> Cuz they're salespeople.
59:29>> Yep.
59:29>> Right. Lou, we had old Lou up here
59:31earlier.
59:32>> Lou,
59:32>> no shot would have been a good content
59:34creator. Could crush as a live selling
59:38host. He was a salesman. He's a salesman
59:40and when he's passionate about
59:42something, he really gets going and he
59:43would crush. [clears throat]
59:44But he was never going to be you as a
59:46content creator, but he could be a
59:48profoundly good live. He's building this
59:50alcohol brand. He should quit.
59:52>> I know you think it's going to be big.
59:53Quit and just live sell.
59:55>> Interesting. Interesting. [snorts]
59:57>> And he represents tens of millions of
59:59people listening right now. So, I'm
1:00:01obsessed. Live shopping. Here's why.
1:00:03There's so many people's lives that are
1:00:05going to be changed by it. This way
1:00:06social media changed people's lives.
1:00:08That's amazing,
1:00:08>> dude. Dude, you you uh you said you were
1:00:10going to give us 30 minutes. You gave us
1:00:11a [ __ ] hour.
1:00:12>> Wait, what? You were gonna give us 30
1:00:13minutes?
1:00:14>> I asked yesterday. I said, "How long?"
1:00:15>> I was gonna give him 30 minutes.
1:00:17>> When I found out you were here, bro, I I
1:00:20am I am willing to be here as long as
1:00:23you want, Mike. I have a lot of love for
1:00:25you as you know. Again, you know this,
1:00:27right? Like we haven't really gotten a
1:00:29real right, but you know this every time
1:00:31like randomly had a Super Bowl thing
1:00:32like keep it up with the B. Like I cheer
1:00:34for you, bro.
1:00:34>> No, dude. I met the first time I met you
1:00:36was at the Jets. was at a Jets game with
1:00:38Sean Nelson from Love Sack.
1:00:39>> Oh, is that right?
1:00:40>> And you were in the front row and I and
1:00:41we were in row two and I met you and I
1:00:43wanted to say this earlier in the show
1:00:45>> when you when people say you are kind
1:00:48and giving of your time to everyone. You
1:00:50you were like that the first day I
1:00:52[ __ ] met you in like 2014 or 15. You
1:00:55asked who how did I get involved with
1:00:56Love Hack? How did I get the job? Why
1:00:58did I know Shawn? Like dude, you he Gary
1:01:00really is who he says he is and is and
1:01:02is an awesome [ __ ] person. Facts.
1:01:04You're the man. Gary V. Ladies and
1:01:05gentlemen,
1:01:05>> thank you everyone. Thank you.

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