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0:00And we see him getting out of the car
0:02and we see him taking a gun to a car.
0:04You know what do you think, ladies and
0:06gentlemen? What do you think this guy
0:07did?
0:12In the early morning hours of March 5th,
0:152023, gunfire erupted in the Five Points
0:18neighborhood of Athens, Georgia.
0:20>> [music]
0:20>> 24year-old Javanni McDavid was leaving a
0:23party with four passengers when another
0:25[music] vehicle pulled alongside them
0:27near Northview Drive and Pinerest Drive.
0:30Moments later, [music] investigators say
0:32members of the Everybody Killer gang
0:34opened fire on McDavid's [music]
0:35car after recognizing him as an
0:37associate of the rival Red Tape gang.
0:40The occupants of McDavid's vehicle
0:41[music] then returned fire in response,
0:44resulting in an exchange of more than 40
0:46rounds. [music]
0:47McDavid was struck in the head and
0:49transported to a hospital where he died
0:51several days later. [music] The shooting
0:53quickly drew the attention of the Athens
0:55Clark County Police Department, the
0:57Georgia Bureau of Investigations Gang
0:59[music] Task Force, and the Georgia
1:01Attorney General's Gang Prosecution
1:03Unit. Investigators [music] believed the
1:05attack was connected to an ongoing
1:07rivalry involving local street [music]
1:09gangs. And their investigation soon
1:11focused on four young men, Anthony
1:14[music] Brown, Cedric Faustst, Jaden
1:17Appling, and 20-year-old Glenderius
1:20Tate. 10 [music] days after the
1:22shooting, police arrested Tate.
1:25Detectives now needed to determine
1:27exactly what role, [music] if any, he
1:29had played in the events of that night
1:31and what he knew about the people who
1:33were with him. This is the interrogation
1:35of Glendarius Tate.
1:39Yes.
1:41>> Mr. T.
1:44>> Thank you, sir.
1:46>> Sergeant Black Athens Clark County
1:48Police. This is Detective Listister with
1:50Detective Granado.
1:52Do you have any idea why we would be
1:54here to talk to you?
1:55>> I know my friends. You got a lot of
1:57>> Who's your friend?
1:58>> Anthony.
1:59>> Anthony. Anthony. What?
2:01>> Brown.
2:02>> Okay.
2:04Yeah, that is part of it. Um, Mr. Tell
2:06you, how do you spell your first name?
2:09>> G L G.
2:10>> Say again.
2:11>> G L E N B A R I US.
2:18>> What's your date of birth?
2:20>> September 27th,
2:232002.
2:24>> Okay. Where you staying?
2:25>> Um, Martin.
2:27>> What's your actual address on there?
2:32>> And that's where you stay?
2:33>> Uhhuh.
2:35Do you say over at uh Highland Park
2:38sometimes?
2:39>> Highland Park.
2:40>> Yeah. No.
2:41>> Okay. What's your phone number?
2:47>> Okay. Have you recently had to get a new
2:51Power Properties ID at all?
2:53>> Power property?
2:54>> Yeah. Well,
2:55>> oh yeah, I got a new one.
2:56>> When did you do that?
2:58>> I've been got it like when I got hired
3:00on a week ago.
3:02So you you've been hired on a week ago.
3:04>> Probably like two weeks ago. No. Yeah.
3:06Two weeks. Huh.
3:08>> And when did you get the new ID?
3:11>> When did you lose your old one?
3:13>> I say before I got hired on, but they
3:17had gave me another one cuz that other
3:18one I just had, we were messing up. They
3:20had to get bl
3:22>> Okay. Um
3:24Well, I know you lost one
3:27cuz I have it. Any idea where it might
3:31have dropped?
3:33>> Okay. Do you know why Mr. Brown was
3:36arrested?
3:38>> They said something about some murder or
3:42something. I was like, "What in the
3:44world?" I was talking to mom.
3:45>> His mom told you. Okay.
3:48>> When's the last time you saw Mr. Brown?
3:52>> What was the last time I saw him?
3:54>> I haven't seen.
3:56If you had to guess, how long has it
3:58been?
4:01>> I can't even think about when the last
4:03time I seen Nick.
4:06>> You don't remember last time you were
4:07with him?
4:12>> You ever been in his car?
4:15>> Yeah, that's my partner. My homeboy, but
4:17I haven't been with him. I've been
4:18working.
4:20>> Okay. How long have you worked here?
4:23>> Been my fourth month. Probably my fifth.
4:25Okay.
4:31I know I probably left some stuff in
4:33your car before cuz I know I got some
4:34jackets and stuff in your car.
4:36>> Yeah.
4:42>> When would have been the most recent
4:43time you left something in this car?
4:46>> I know I had left my gray I had left a
4:48gray jacket in the back.
4:51Well, it was a long time ago, but I
4:53ain't even seen it in a long time. You
4:55ain't thinking about that nothing.
4:57>> Okay. Do you have Instagram at all?
5:00>> Instagram?
5:00>> Yeah.
5:02>> Um, no.
5:04>> No Instagram. Okay.
5:07>> Facebook?
5:09>> I don't have Facebook. Twitter.
5:11Snapchat.
5:18>> Okay. I was saying like
5:22[clears throat]
5:23>> um so his mom told you about the murder
5:26charge. She tell you what happened.
5:27>> She didn't tell me. His cousins for like
5:29Atlanta was telling me and called me.
5:31They asked me did I know and I like no I
5:33ain't know nothing about I haven't
5:34talked to Nick.
5:36>> They say what happened or why he got
5:38charged or
5:39>> they just said they said Nick got locked
5:40up for murder.
5:45>> Yeah.
5:48Can you tell me um what you were doing
5:50over this weekend?
5:52>> This weekend?
5:53>> Yeah.
5:54>> I was with my son.
5:57>> Where is that at?
5:59>> I'm stuck here.
6:01>> Okay. Let's Let's start with like
6:02Friday. What were you doing Friday?
6:04>> Friday I had to work Friday and
6:06Saturday.
6:07>> Okay. What'd you work from?
6:09>> I worked from 6:00 in the morning till
6:13um
6:144:00.
6:16>> Okay. Where'd you go from there?
6:18>> Well, I don't know. Took a shower.
6:20>> That was uh Friday or Saturday?
6:23>> Friday.
6:24>> Oh, really?
6:25>> Most days you work that that 6:00 a.m.
6:28to 4:00 p.m.
6:29>> Yeah. Fridays I got up Friday I mean
6:31Saturdays I get off at 2:30.
6:32>> Okay.
6:36Okay. Did you go anywhere Friday night?
6:39>> Friday
6:39>> after you went home?
6:46She stayed home over there at MLK the
6:48rest of the day.
6:53>> How about Saturday?
6:56>> Yeah, I ain't going nowhere Saturday.
6:58You I think Yeah, I went I went to the
7:00TJ Mask. I went to go buy cuz I have
7:02another baby. I went to go TJ Maxx. I
7:05went to um what it's called. It's called
7:09Marshall. It's something across the
7:10street from TJ Maxx. I went over there
7:12and I did some stuff with my big mom and
7:15my son, but I really went shopping.
7:18>> So, you're with your baby's mama just
7:19doing shopping?
7:22>> Who's she?
7:23>> Camila Parks.
7:29>> Do you have a phone number for her?
8:02I need to hold my contact.
8:04I used to call her dad
8:07getting to it. She had a block.
8:10[cough and clears throat]
8:13>> Is that usually the best number to get
8:14her then? Is her dad?
8:17>> I got her number.
8:18>> Okay.
8:40Yeah.
8:54So, you're with her. What time do you
8:57think you got home or got done with
8:59shopping?
9:02>> [clears throat]
9:03>> Like
9:04he like
9:07bro I say like what time
9:11like 10 or something
9:15>> yeah like 10 9 I told you I had to work
9:18got out of work took a shower in store.
9:21>> Okay.
9:21>> Got my son dressed and stuff.
9:24>> Where did you go from there?
9:25>> Where
9:26>> from shopping? Where? Did you go home
9:28or?
9:28>> Yeah, I took a shower, went home.
9:32She came back and went out.
9:34>> Okay. Did you stay home from there or
9:36did you go anywhere else?
9:38>> I went to her house.
9:40>> So, you went not home home, but you went
9:43to her house.
9:45>> Did you stay there?
9:49>> So, yeah. Yeah.
9:52Where is that at?
9:54>> Thanks.
9:57I don't know. The address was like in
9:58Stonehead.
10:00I don't know the exact address.
10:03>> Okay.
10:06>> How old is she?
10:07>> 17.
10:10>> How old are you?
10:11>> 20.
10:12>> Okay.
10:14So, you went over there, stayed with her
10:16at Stonehen. Did you stay there all
10:17night?
10:19Okay. Sunday, what' you do? Sunday
10:27stayed over her place all day.
10:38>> When did you finally get home?
10:44>> Oh, so you haven't been home yet?
10:47Do you normally kind of just stay with
10:49her or
10:50>> sometime when we doing go like I be back
10:52and forth at home and stuff?
10:56>> So you mostly kind of stay with her
10:58>> sometime. Sometimes I be at home that I
11:01say like
11:03>> do you stay with her unless you guys are
11:05having issues?
11:06>> Sometime
11:09I'm not going home just by myself.
11:12>> Sure.
11:18Um, did you go to a party or anything
11:21over the weekend?
11:23>> Wouldn't be any reason for you to be on
11:25any cameras or camera footage or
11:26anything like that?
11:27>> No.
11:28>> Okay. Do you have a phone number for
11:31Anthony?
11:36>> No. Okay.
11:38>> What's your phone number?
11:45Okay.
11:46Um, so the reason we're here talking to
11:48you here, I'm just going to say Anthony
11:50was absolutely involved in a shooting
11:52over the weekend. And, uh, when we did a
11:55search of the vehicle that was involved,
11:56which was the vehicle that they actually
11:59did the shooting in, your ID was sitting
12:01in there.
12:02>> My ID? I got my
12:04>> Your power partner's ID.
12:05>> My power partner. Um,
12:07>> so that's why I'm asking you like when
12:09did you leave it in there? I be in his
12:10car, but like I ain't been with a racer.
12:12>> Okay. So, if you had to guess, how long
12:14has it been since you left your ID in?
12:19>> I don't know. Probably went like four
12:22IDs. I don't remember.
12:24>> So, you've replaced your ID several
12:25times here?
12:26>> That's why I said I had another one, but
12:28they had two cuz it stopped working and
12:29they just gave me one. I got hired on.
12:31>> Did it uh used to say Power Partners and
12:34do the new ones now say Aspire or do
12:37they always say Power Partners? They
12:39always say firefighter.
12:40>> Okay.
12:41>> Or the other ones they be giving me,
12:42they be looking the same.
12:43>> Okay.
12:44>> Okay. Let me ask you, do you by chance
12:46have locations turned on on your phone?
12:50>> No, you turn that off.
12:52>> Um,
12:53>> do do you do you know if you turn that
12:55on or off? Because it's on by default.
12:58So, you'd have to actually go in there
13:00and turn it off.
13:02So, have you gone in there and actually
13:04turned it off?
13:06No. Okay. So, a very easy way for us to
13:09show that you were were not involved
13:10would be to just check your phone
13:12locations and do that. Is that something
13:15you'd be willing to do?
13:16>> I mean, yeah, but
13:20>> but what you
13:22>> can
13:22>> Okay.
13:23>> I don't know how to.
13:24>> You mind if I take a look?
13:30our locations.
13:42All right, do me a favor. You set the
13:43phone down for a second.
13:46Okay. You're very nervous now. Your
13:49hands I was trying to find my phone.
13:50Hold
13:50>> on. Just Just relax. But
13:52>> I can't find it.
13:53>> Just set it down for a second. Okay. All
13:54right.
13:55>> Go ahead. Set phone down, Glenn. Put the
13:57phone down.
13:59Okay,
14:00Glenn,
14:02slide the phone over. Let's stop. Let's
14:04stop dealing with the phone. Thank you.
14:06>> We'll just talk.
14:07>> Did you put your hands in this fine?
14:10>> Glenn, I know you're nervous, man. It's
14:12very obvious cuz your hands are
14:13literally like shaking while you're
14:14doing that. Were you there at the party?
14:16>> No, were you with him in the car?
14:19>> No, I was not with you.
14:20>> Okay. Cuz it's clear that there's
14:22something that's making you nervous.
14:23What is making you nervous?
14:25>> Like, yeah, it's just making me nervous.
14:26But like I wouldn't name Carter.
14:28>> Okay. I I I understand being nervous
14:30just talking to the police in general,
14:32but you know, we're not
14:34>> really like cuz I don't even supposed to
14:35be at my house, but like that was a long
14:38time ago, but like
14:39>> is it cuz there's a bond condition or
14:41something? It's like you're worried
14:43about
14:45>> Okay. Well, look,
14:46>> we're not concerned about violating your
14:48bond or whatever you got going on
14:49>> about a murder right now.
14:51>> Okay.
14:52>> So, and here's the thing. And I'm just
14:54going to tell you, I'll be very honest
14:56with you, there is video out of Bethl.
14:59There's actually video of the shooting
15:00in and of itself.
15:02>> Yeah.
15:02>> And that video has gone off for
15:04enhancements and things like that. And
15:06it gradually what's going to end up
15:07happening was that comes back. My
15:09understanding is they're going to be
15:10able to pull that thing up to the point
15:11of being able to see faces, things like
15:13that, and actually recognizing people.
15:16>> Yeah.
15:16>> Here's things that I know for a fact. I
15:18know for a fact that Anthony Brown was
15:21driving that car. I know for a fact that
15:23your ID is sitting in the back of that
15:26car right there on the floorboard.
15:29There's not a whole bunch of stuff in
15:30there and it's sitting right there like
15:32someone might have dropped it. So,
15:34here's the thing. It is a murder
15:36investigation. Somebody lost it on. If
15:40you're in the car, it will absolutely
15:44be discovered. That's that's just kind
15:46of a factual thing because what's going
15:48to end up happening is several things
15:50put people at different locations.
15:51whether it be their phone records, their
15:54DNA being in at certain locations, video
15:58surveillance, all that. If you're in the
16:00car, that's okay. Um,
16:04what we would like to know is if you
16:06were there, the perspective of what
16:08happened on each side because there's
16:10there's different stories to each vents.
16:13Like I was talking to like cuz he cool
16:16with the person who died
16:17>> and he said that the folk was saying
16:19that he was with somebody and then like
16:22the part they said that he had money and
16:24stuff in his pocket and it was gone and
16:26stuff like that.
16:27>> Okay,
16:27>> that's they said they said them they
16:30said the person he with said they got in
16:32a shootout with Nick but they said they
16:34had deleted they had deleted all their
16:36stuff and stuff like that.
16:37>> Who deleted it? What like what do you
16:39mean by deleted their stuff? Like their
16:42Instagram or like they went quiet.
16:44>> That's why I said I said I feel like my
16:46partner didn't do that. And he was like,
16:47I feel like your partner didn't do that.
16:48He said, I feel like it was the person
16:50he was with because they said everything
16:52I had called they said they said and
16:54then they said what? They said they
16:56ain't been checking in with their mom
16:58like his mom.
16:58>> Well, who's that?
17:00>> Not who's that not checking in with
17:01their mama?
17:02>> Said the people it was with.
17:04>> Who? She said she had a call and said
17:06they were like they couldn't find him
17:08but they they had dropped his car off in
17:11Pinewood.
17:13>> Okay. So they said they dropped off the
17:15other dude's car at Pinewood.
17:17>> That I don't know though.
17:19>> So who are the people that you're
17:20hearing are actually in in that car then
17:23or who's not checking in and whatnot.
17:25>> They said it be some people at 288. They
17:27probably 28.
17:29>> Okay.
17:29>> So people from 288. Yeah.
17:32>> And who is telling you this information?
17:35>> My boy Z and
17:38Schneider.
17:40>> Do they work here?
17:41>> Yeah, they would like
17:43>> Are they working here now?
17:45>> Yeah, we were on break, but they told me
17:47right when I was going on break to come
17:49here
17:50>> from Z and what's the other one?
17:52>> Snipe.
17:53>> Snipe.
17:54>> Yeah. They said they've been over there
17:55with the family and stuff.
17:56>> Do you know their real names?
17:58>> No, I don't know their real name cuz
17:59they came back. They were like, "Bro,
18:01this your partner and stuff." And I
18:02like, "Okay, that's my partner, but I
18:04ain't got nothing to do with it." They
18:05like, "I feel you, bro. I can't be mad.
18:07It's
18:08>> now your partner. He's uh EBK."
18:12>> Who?
18:13>> Anthony.
18:14>> Anthony, I just know Anthony playing
18:16basketball at school. The way I see like
18:19I don't see Nick doing no stuff like
18:20that.
18:21>> When I spoke with Nick, he said that he
18:23was from Uptown. What does that mean?
18:24>> Uptown. West side of
18:28>> He from Ly. I said I met Nick. I can
18:30feel [ __ ] right? And we've been close
18:32since.
18:34But
18:34>> so they told you that what the guy who
18:37got shot was shooting at little Nick.
18:40>> Well, I don't know. I don't know. I
18:42haven't even talked to Nick about he
18:44called me or nothing.
18:45>> But what did they tell you? What did you
18:46hear?
18:47>> I heard they said somebody said they got
18:50a shoot out with Nick.
18:52They got a shoot out with Nick.
18:55>> And who did they think was involved in
18:57that? dude they say was involved.
19:00>> They said some low 28 or some other
19:04folks. But I don't I don't know two of
19:06the other cuz I'm from the west side
19:09east side.
19:12>> Okay.
19:16And was it a person nickname 288 or was
19:18it
19:19>> they called 28?
19:22>> Yeah. Yeah. But other than was there any
19:25other nicknames for anyone involved?
19:27When you say 288 are and you say they
19:29call Pinewood 288. Are you basically
19:31referring to they're they're just saying
19:33it was Lelo and people from 288?
19:35>> He said
19:36>> or is that a person?
19:37>> Okay. Like partner he said but I don't
19:40feel like Nick I know Nick didn't do
19:42that. He said um when the mom called he
19:45said they answered the phone and they
19:47said that they got out running and they
19:50lost him and they they brought his car
19:52back.
20:10Um, Zay and Snipe, do they know because
20:12they're involved or
20:14>> his It was at his family house.
20:16>> Okay. So, they just know because they
20:17were there when they were talking about
20:19it.
20:22>> Do you know their real names?
20:25All right.
20:27>> What does Z look like?
20:28>> Z he got dri I work with him in that.
20:30>> Yeah. What what describe him?
20:33>> He got dreads. He kind of tall. Like a
20:36little bit taller than me.
20:38>> How old are they?
20:39>> Like the same size.
20:41>> How tall are you?
20:42>> 6 foot.
20:45>> Actually you and uh Nick are about the
20:47same height.
20:49>> I think N taller than you. [snorts]
20:51Okay.
21:02If we told HR, hey, we need to talk to Z
21:05and Snipe. Are they going to know who
21:06you're talking about?
21:09>> They might know Z, man. They ain't got
21:11too many Z's in here now. That's
21:13firefight.
21:15I don't know his real name. He just
21:16started working.
21:19>> Does Fernando know Z?
21:22You don't know.
21:25Let's see the side here.
21:32>> And they came to you and talked to you
21:33because they're kind of confronting you
21:35about
21:35>> they know me.
21:37>> Okay.
21:39>> And they asked me about it and I was
21:40like, "Bro, I don't know nothing about
21:41it.
21:45>> They make any threats towards you?"
21:47None.
21:51cuz y'all are cool.
21:56>> Why would you think that Nick wouldn't
21:57have been involved?
22:01[clears throat]
22:01>> I don't see why they got a problem with
22:02each other.
22:03>> Okay. There would be no reason.
22:05>> Yeah.
22:06>> Who are you looking for?
22:08>> He's say that guy work with you. The one
22:11who was walking with you.
22:13>> Say, you want him?
22:14>> Yeah, he's here.
22:16>> Well, he Okay, maybe it's a lunch.
22:18That's the problem. If you can give me
22:20their real names,
22:21>> I'll step out.
22:23>> I got Let me
22:28>> So, they wouldn't expect that there
22:31would be some kind of beef between him
22:33and
22:35Brown and I guess whoever else was
22:38involved.
22:39>> Well, let me ask this. Would would your
22:42partner would he go to an RTG party?
22:46>> Him?
22:47>> No. Your Anthony? Nick.
22:49>> No.
22:49>> Nick, would he go to an RTG party?
22:52>> Why not?
22:55>> Why wouldn't it?
23:05>> But Z and Snipe,
23:07>> they just from car. I mean, see the
23:09show. Okay.
23:10>> Play basketball with the person,
23:13>> but they said they haven't talked to him
23:15since high school. You know they order.
23:20>> Would Nick go to 288 Baylor Street?
23:25What would happen if you did?
23:27>> I don't think nothing happened. I just
23:29seen Nick on the east side like hanging
23:31around playing basketball and stuff, but
23:33like ain't nothing. Nick ain't never had
23:36no problem.
23:37>> Okay.
23:37>> Good.
23:39>> Well, apparently not real good with
23:41everybody. I mean, when I talked with
23:43Nick, Nick said that uh people at the
23:48party didn't like him.
23:49>> At what party?
23:51>> The one that uh what was it? Javanni was
23:55at.
23:55>> Mhm.
23:56>> Yeah.
23:57>> Party where this all happened.
23:59>> Well, let let me I'm going to change
24:01let's change
24:04um questions here a little bit. Let me
24:06ask, do you know um what's his name?
24:09Frank Manag. Frank Monago.
24:12>> Yeah.
24:12>> Lil Frank.
24:13>> Mano.
24:14>> Mano. Okay. You know him?
24:16>> Yeah.
24:17>> Does he hang out with Anthony?
24:19>> Okay. Do you know um what's the other
24:23guy's name?
24:25>> Kyle.
24:26>> Yeah.
24:27>> Kyle.
24:28>> You know him?
24:29>> You know him?
24:30>> Do you know Jordan Gresham?
24:34>> Javasio.
24:36>> Tre Gresham. You know them at all.
24:40Jordan has got like frosted
24:43tips that kind of sort of almost explode
24:47from his head. Does that sound familiar?
24:51It's kind of the best way I can describe
24:53it as.
24:54>> I don't know.
24:56>> Okay. But you know
25:00Kyle Kyle like we played football and
25:02basketball.
25:03>> Okay. They they Gordon State they still
25:06up there. They come back though, right?
25:09sometime.
25:10>> Okay. You know William
25:12>> had huh?
25:13>> Williamson
25:16if I remember the guy's first name
25:17Richardson.
25:18>> Richardson.
25:19>> Will Richardson?
25:20>> Yeah.
25:21>> Yeah.
25:21>> Play football. He go he go to school.
25:23>> William Richardson.
25:24>> Yeah.
25:24>> Yeah.
25:25>> Okay. So you know him too.
25:29>> [clears throat]
25:30[snorts]
25:30>> Um,
25:38all these guys are all friends.
25:41Okay. You ever seen Anthony with guns?
25:45Well, that's a yes. You're going no, but
25:48you're also going yes. So, this I I just
25:50need to be honest.
25:51>> I don't see him with guns. Like,
25:53>> have you seen these other guys like
25:55Frank and them with guns?
25:58Never.
26:00I ain't never seen Frank.
26:21You recognize that photo at all or the
26:23people in that photo?
26:26Who are the Who are the people in this
26:28photo?
26:31>> People you said
26:32>> on the left side of the photo. Who is
26:34that?
26:35>> Left. This right here.
26:36>> Yeah.
26:37>> Okay. Who's in the middle?
26:39>> Kyle.
26:40>> Kyle. And who's on the other side
26:43sitting on the counter?
26:46Who's that?
26:47>> Frank.
26:47>> Frank.
26:48>> Frank.
26:49>> What do they What do they have in their
26:50hands?
26:53>> That's not theirs.
26:54>> Yeah, but what's in their hands?
26:56guns. But I'm saying that's
26:58>> rifles, right? They have like rifles in
27:01their hands.
27:01>> That's not theirs.
27:03>> Whose are they?
27:04>> No, but I know for sure they don't got
27:06no guns like that really got money like
27:09two guns like this.
27:12>> Okay.
27:13>> Think they would borrowing from someone?
27:16>> No. Nobody.
27:20>> Are they together pretty often?
27:22>> Who? Frank and and Kyle and all them.
27:26Are they
27:27>> They ain't going to state. They was at
27:28school.
27:29>> How do you know they're at school this
27:30weekend?
27:31>> Yeah, he called.
27:32>> Who did?
27:33>> Well, Frank um and I got Frank Kyle
27:36call. He like, "Bro, you have you heard
27:38what happened to Nick?" I said, "Yep."
27:40He said, "This [ __ ] crazy, bro." He said
27:41he was talking to like he said that they
27:45said Nick was on shootout and he getting
27:47charged with murder.
27:52Okay.
27:53>> All right.
28:01>> Um, and who was it that called you?
28:03>> Kyle.
28:06>> You have his number?
28:07>> I don't have
28:27>> [snorts]
28:38>> Yeah, I ain't I saving those.
28:43I mean, if you can find it, that may
28:44help him out because I'm going to tell
28:46you absolutely his name come up.
28:49>> He's not looking in contact. He's
28:50looking somewhere else. So, you might
28:52want to have
28:56>> Well, I looked at FaceTime cuz he
28:58FaceTimed.
28:59>> I look out, man.
29:02Hear me out.
29:03>> Put the phone down.
29:06>> I understand. Or you understand?
29:10>> Hear me out. All right. I' I've just
29:12been watching you. We all have a lot of
29:14experience. Okay. What you're telling us
29:17and what your body is telling us is
29:19something completely different. Okay?
29:21Now, I will tell you because we have
29:23dealt with this
29:25>> over and over and over again and you can
29:27take it however you want. I'm just I'm
29:28just telling you how it is. Okay?
29:31>> This is your one opportunity to tell
29:33this investigators, look, man, this is
29:36what I know. This is where we're at, and
29:38this is how I can help you. If you
29:39weren't involved with it involving
29:41>> well, hear me out. Even if we were just
29:43in the car, whatever, they need to hear
29:46that because at the end of the day,
29:48we're going to find out. We're going to
29:49get all that information and
29:50>> I can't tell you
29:52>> and and if we if we catch you in lies,
29:54>> that's not going to help you out. You
29:56see what I'm saying?
29:58>> You see what I'm saying?
29:58>> Yeah, I see what you're saying.
30:00>> It's it's it's 2023, man.
30:02>> Yeah.
30:02>> We have ways of figuring things out. But
30:04this is this is your one opportunity to
30:07have a conversation with.
30:09>> All right.
30:09>> All right. Fine. Right.
30:13>> I was looking through here. But
30:15>> so he FaceTimed you via Facebook or
30:18>> I face
30:24I think it's 706
30:2738.
30:33Hold on.
30:39706.
30:40>> Mhm.
30:40>> 380.
30:41>> Mhm.
30:42>> 79
30:4474.
30:49>> Okay. Is there anything that you want to
30:52change about the statement you've made?
30:55>> No.
30:55>> Okay.
30:56>> So, here's the thing. And he's right,
30:58Glenn. I'm not going to necessarily say
31:00that I know you're involved. I'm going
31:01to say that there's a lot of evidence
31:03that we're going to be combing through
31:05that's going to show us exactly who was
31:08involved cuz here's reality. It's all on
31:10camera.
31:11>> Yeah.
31:11>> I mean, every bit of it. Even the car
31:13leaving, the car driving there, the car
31:15driving back, them going to Bethl, them
31:18loading the guns into the car in Bethl
31:20to go over there to have the shootout.
31:23It's not going to take too long to get
31:26stuff enhanced to full faces and things
31:29like that. Um
31:31>> I mean is there something that you know
31:33[clears throat] because you're shaking
31:34your head no as we're talking about that
31:36hole in the video like
31:39>> well so he is right your body language
31:42is very much saying that you've got some
31:43information with concerns. It's like you
31:45probably know who was in that car
31:46sweating
31:48>> cuz like I don't supposed to be mama
31:50house but like don't like
31:52>> and we've already established baby's
31:55mama thing I just like
31:56>> so we've already cleared out the baby's
31:58mama thing. You're still super nervous.
32:01>> Um, my guess would be you know who was
32:04in the car.
32:06>> If you were in the car and you know who
32:08was involved, at least there's been some
32:10discussion or whatnot.
32:11>> I heard I heard.
32:12>> Okay. So, who did you hear is in the
32:13car?
32:14>> I a hear nobody in the car.
32:17>> Who did you hear in the car? Glenn.
32:19>> I heard they said they seen me do it.
32:22And I was like, [ __ ] That's all I
32:24heard.
32:24>> Who's they
32:26said? He said they said they seen Nick
32:29on camera having a shootout and then
32:31they said the person somebody text said
32:33he had a shoot out with Nick but like he
32:36said he don't know where
32:38>> who texted and said they had a shoot out
32:39with
32:40>> they said the dude Lelo or some [ __ ]
32:42like that.
32:43>> Lelo
32:43>> not know it's some 288 boys.
32:46>> No you know
32:47>> 288 like
32:48>> trendy
32:50>> trendy.
32:50>> Mhm.
32:51>> OT
32:52>> that's his partner too. They say
32:54something about him but I don't know for
32:55real. That's why I don't That's why I
32:57>> So now is Trendy is he the guy you're
32:58scared of?
32:59>> I'm not scared. No, I don't want to say
33:02I don't want to say no, bro. I don't
33:03want me to get involved in it.
33:05>> But you are involved. And here's the
33:07thing. And maybe it hadn't kicked in for
33:10you yet.
33:11>> You are super involved. What we're here
33:14right now is to try to take you out of
33:16being involved because you know what
33:18happens that messes
33:20>> I'm about to explain it to you. You know
33:22what makes you have a real bad day?
33:24Yeah.
33:24>> When your license is in a car that was
33:26used to go do a driveby.
33:28>> That's my partner though. You got to
33:29understand I be I leave stuff in there.
33:32>> Yeah. You be there. Yeah.
33:33>> Do you know how bad it looks when your
33:35ID is in a car that four guys went and
33:39shot some dude in the head?
33:41>> I know how bad it doesn't look.
33:44>> It's actually what could technically be
33:46considered probable cause to arrest
33:48somebody for murder. What we're trying
33:50to do is sit down, talk to you, get your
33:54side, clear that up because I don't want
33:57to just make the assumption that just
33:59because your ID there um is in
34:03>> means that you're there,
34:04>> but you're real nervous, your hands are
34:06shaking, um it's clear that you've got
34:09information. What I want you to do is be
34:11able to push yourself as far away from
34:13the situation as possible. So, whatever
34:16information you've got, now is the time
34:18to lay it all on the table. And for the
34:21statement of, let me help you out here.
34:22For the statement of I don't want to be
34:24involved does not work anymore because
34:27you are absolutely involved.
34:30>> And there's no way.
34:31>> I'm not involved.
34:31>> Well, the thing is too, we're talking
34:34with just you.
34:36>> Yeah.
34:36>> You know, it's not like we're talking
34:38We're sitting here talking with your
34:39friends. It's not like we're sitting
34:41here talking with Nick's partners. It's
34:43you.
34:44>> Yeah. Okay. So, this is your
34:46opportunity.
34:47>> So, so that's the thing is Glenn, you're
34:48past the point of not being involved
34:50because your ID was in the car, which
34:52means you are forever in this police
34:54report. You're forever in this
34:56investigation.
34:57>> Okay.
34:57>> The question is whether or not
34:59>> whether you were actually a suspect
35:01>> or are you just an involved party that
35:04But to say I don't want to be involved,
35:06we're past that.
35:07>> I ain't say I want to be involved. I
35:09just don't really know what's going on.
35:10You feel me?
35:11>> Well, you know exactly what's going on.
35:13Trust always.
35:14>> I've been hearing it for real.
35:16>> Your ID was found inside of the car.
35:18>> All right.
35:18>> We know that car was used in a driveby.
35:21>> All right.
35:21>> And people inside of that car shot at
35:25Mr. McDavid and shot him in the head.
35:28>> Okay.
35:29>> Okay. So, us finding your ID in there,
35:32connecting those dots. That's what I'm
35:34trying to tell you. Finding your ID in
35:35there is what makes it not look good,
35:37right? And you agree with that. That
35:39doesn't look good.
35:40>> What can I do about it?
35:41>> Well, that's why we're having a
35:42conversation. What you can do about that
35:43is by talking to us and taking yourself
35:46out of the situation. Okay? So, by
35:48talking with us about what you know, if
35:51you happen to be there, if you didn't
35:52happen to be there, whatever, but being
35:54100% honest with us, so then we can
35:56check the box and say, "Okay, Glenn
35:58wants us."
35:59>> So, I'm going to tell you, you ask
36:01>> Glenn just saw something.
36:02>> What can I do about that? Right.
36:04>> You can tell me the names. a name
36:08>> start talking to him or
36:11>> um
36:11>> take one.
36:12>> You want to take one?
36:13>> Well, y'all know more about
36:15>> Yeah, that's fine. If it'll 1012, that's
36:18fine. Um,
36:20so here's the I going to tell you the
36:22best way of getting yourself out of it.
36:24If you know the names of people in that
36:26car, then you need to give it to us.
36:28>> Me neat car.
36:29>> Yes.
36:31>> I told you I ain't even talk to me.
36:33>> Okay. If you had to guess who is the
36:35next car, who would you guess?
36:37>> Um,
36:38>> yeah. You listen, man. He's your
36:40partner. There's no way you don't know
36:42who he's rolling with.
36:43>> Everybody be with Nick. Everybody be
36:45with everybody. So,
36:46>> who's Nick going to go do a driveby
36:47with?
36:49>> Be strong because I'm going to tell you,
36:52and you know, do I understand not
36:54wanting to give up buddies and be a
36:56snitch and all that [ __ ] but here's
36:57here's facts, Glenn. Facts.
37:00>> Facts. Facts are these guys, if they're
37:03in the car, they made whatever choices
37:05they made, right?
37:07>> But who can say that you weren't in that
37:09car better than them?
37:13>> Who?
37:15>> That's a question. Who can say you were
37:17not in that car to do that driveby and
37:20kill that guy better than them? Nobody,
37:24right?
37:25So if you're providing the names of the
37:28other people who were in that car
37:30because you know that's who who went
37:32because everyone's been talking
37:34>> every they were saying a lot of folk
37:35name but like
37:37>> who are they saying is with
37:38>> they were saying a lot of folk name
37:40>> they said something about AJ saying
37:42about some other folk and I was like the
37:44folks said Gordon State. So how
37:47>> so they're saying it's guys from Gordon
37:49State.
37:50>> Okay. And when you say guys from Gordon
37:52State, you mean like Frank and and Kyle?
37:55>> They ain't saying Frank or Kyle name.
37:57>> Well, how many guys are at Gordon State?
37:58Who's AJ?
38:00>> My partner. He played football, too.
38:02>> Basketball at Gordon State.
38:05>> He he don't think he played basketball
38:06at Gordon State, but he played
38:08basketball and football at Car Central.
38:09>> Okay.
38:10>> They said he was doing all that. AJ then
38:13they said his mom and dad were talking
38:14to them. They telling him he was
38:15involved with it and stuff like that. I
38:17don't know why they got involved with
38:19it.
38:21So, I know you said that
38:24um Nick wouldn't go out and do a
38:27driveby. That's just something you don't
38:28think he do, right?
38:30>> Which of his friends would maybe want to
38:33do a driveby and maybe convince Nick to
38:36go with him
38:43because maybe maybe Nick didn't want to
38:46ultimately go do that if that's what you
38:48truly believe. But someone did. Someone
38:51convinced him to take them there and to
38:53do that. So that's what I want to
38:55understand is who who of his friend
38:57group would have made that that you know
39:00bad decision.
39:03>> Who is AJ by the way?
39:11>> Right. AJ Jewels.
39:12>> Jewels. J E W Ls.
39:17You don't know what AJ stands for
39:18though?
39:19>> No.
39:20>> AJ.
39:21>> Yeah.
39:22>> Jewels. AJ.
39:25>> What's the A the AJ though?
39:29>> Or is is the J just the jewels and
39:31you're just not remember the first name?
39:33>> Antonio.
39:34>> Antonio Jules.
39:37>> Antonio Jewels. Jewel.
39:39>> Okay.
39:41And he's at Gordon State.
39:43>> Yeah. Cuz they said his one dude was
39:45calling too. Like you heard about Nick
39:47like my coach has been calling me about
39:48it too. I like I heard about like
39:51>> okay
39:52>> I said I hope Rene can't do nothing like
39:53that.
39:54>> You got a number for AJ?
39:56>> I don't got agent mama.
39:58>> You know his mama?
40:00>> Yeah I know his mama.
40:02>> Who's his mama?
40:03>> Uh
40:04Miss Jules. I call her jewels school.
40:07She
40:07>> you got her number at all.
40:08>> She going my taxes.
40:11>> She does your taxes.
40:12>> Yeah. But they had she talked to the
40:14folks parents and stuff and she like
40:17told them like AJ didn't have nothing to
40:19do with that.
40:20>> Why would they?
40:21>> Talked to whose parents?
40:23>> They said
40:24>> talked to Nick's parents.
40:25>> No, they she talked to the people like
40:27me.
40:28>> Rambo's parents.
40:29>> Yeah.
40:29>> Does he go by? Rambo, right?
40:31>> He was calling him.
40:33>> So all these folks are like talking back
40:36and forth in the street like calling
40:38everyone's parents.
40:38>> Yeah. They've been saying everybody.
40:40They've been trying to say everybody has
40:41something to do cuz they even called me
40:43and said, "Bro, you went with like no,
40:46what happened to Nick?" They like, "Bro,
40:47not."
40:47>> Well, that's the other issue is people
40:49are saying,
40:50>> that's what I'm saying. They've been
40:51trying.
40:51>> So, you understand that you understand
40:53the problem that we run into.
40:55>> I just said that though. I said, "Why
40:56they keep trying to say everybody?"
41:00>> Well, it doesn't help that you're in the
41:02car. That's just facts.
41:04>> So, I'm going to tell um here's one
41:07thing I'm going to do. I need to get
41:09your phone.
41:10>> I need
41:11>> and and Well, let me explain to you why
41:13I need to get your phone.
41:14>> Can I call my dad?
41:14>> Hold on. No,
41:16>> I can't call.
41:16>> Go ahead and put the phone down for a
41:18second. Okay. Cuz I'm going to explain
41:19to you why I need it and you're going to
41:20sit back and when I'm done explaining to
41:22you why I need it.
41:24>> You're going to You're going to
41:25absolutely say I just said put the
41:27phone.
41:27>> Oh, my fault. I was just I was just I
41:29was just You could keep talking. I just
41:30want to call my dad.
41:32>> Okay.
41:33>> I feel like uncomfortable with my dad
41:35being on.
41:36>> All right. What? Whatever. Um, so
41:39remember how I talked about location
41:40stuff?
41:40>> Yeah.
41:41>> You know the best thing that's going to
41:43show that you were hanging out at your
41:44girlfriend's house and not going and
41:46doing a murder?
41:47>> Uhhuh.
41:48>> Your phone.
41:48>> But like, how else would you be getting
41:49home if you got my phone?
41:52>> Well, for all that cares, what we can do
41:54is do a consent download today, put it
41:56on this thing, and give it right back to
41:57you.
41:59All we got to do is pull that data out.
42:02>> Is that something you're willing to do
42:04today,
42:05>> or is there a better time to set it up?
42:06Go ahead and call. Can you set up? And I
42:08I need to go ahead and call somebody
42:09>> now cuz we got to actually take the
42:11phone. So I need you to actually put the
42:12phone down and stop using
42:15>> You can look at it, but I'm trying to
42:16get like somebody
42:17>> So here's In order me to get data points
42:19off, we got to actually download it.
42:21>> All right.
42:22>> That's why I want because honestly
42:24>> I just feel like it's a trying to get a
42:27ride home. Is that why you're calling?
42:29Like what what is your point of calling
42:31someone right now? Right home to let
42:32them know like like they get the phone
42:35call.
42:37Nobody's answer. Kiki,
42:40where you at?
42:43You at? Where? Well, you know what
42:45happened to Little Nick? What? Daddy
42:47told you what happened to Nick?
42:59>> You can watch it. You can watch it.
43:01>> Okay. As long as we watch it. I just
43:02want to make sure you're not deleting
43:03stuff off
43:05>> Look, the the best way for us to be able
43:07to clear your name from this is through
43:10that location data.
43:11>> Yep.
43:11>> Okay. That's the best way that we can do
43:13it because if we can say that you
43:15weren't there, you weren't there.
43:16>> All right.
43:17>> So, it actually helps you out. And I
43:18know it sucks.
43:19>> Hey, this is copyright bit.
43:21>> Okay. So, that's
43:22>> And it sucks. I know you don't want to
43:24lose your phone. No.
43:25>> Okay. But we're not we're not trying to
43:27take it ticket. Okay. What we want to do
43:30is be able to make a copy of it and then
43:32give it back to you.
43:33>> Yep. Okay. That's all it is.
43:34>> We can do it in front of me though.
43:36>> It downloads.
43:37>> Well, so we actually have to put it on a
43:39system to do that. But we can do it
43:41while you're waiting.
43:41>> I take my phone away from the job.
43:43>> Yeah, we got to take it to the police
43:44department.
43:45>> It's got to go to forensics.
43:47>> So either that or else we need to take
43:49it and just do a search warrant.
43:51>> Either way, we do file.
43:53>> Yeah. Either way, we do need to collect
43:55it today. Okay. So,
43:59okay, I need you to go ahead and hang
44:00that up because
44:03>> why is nobody answering my phone, bro?
44:05>> That's always how it works when you know
44:07you need them. All right, so let me go
44:09ahead and get Is it locked? Go ahead
44:11[clears throat] and lock it. So, let me
44:12slide it on over here.
44:14>> I need the password to get into it.
44:15>> Yep. And I don't have the password. So,
44:18you know, I can't go into it without
44:20your consent, right? So,
44:23>> like
44:23>> here's what we'll do. But that's why I
44:24want to call somebody because I know
44:26like I need like a lawyer and stuff
44:29about this about my phone.
44:32>> Oh, sorry. You know, so what happens
44:34with the phone is it's not take my phone
44:37without
44:38>> So
44:40yeah, cuz you could technically destroy
44:42a phone and things like that.
44:43>> So think about it. If if someone wanted
44:45to, and I'm not saying you would do
44:47this,
44:47>> but if someone wanted to and we said,
44:49"Hey, we need to get your phone. We
44:50believe there's evidence on it." And
44:52then that person says, "Oh, I'll give it
44:54to you later." And then they go and
44:55delete everything. Or they hit it with a
44:57hammer.
44:58>> Why would I hit it with
44:59>> I'm saying you are
45:02you
45:03>> I don't want to be here without
45:04>> So here's the thing. Um what we can do,
45:07when is the best time that you would
45:09like to come and we do the consent form
45:11and get it downloaded and get it back to
45:12you.
45:14>> We can we can probably get you a ride. I
45:18can probably get a
45:19>> How get a ride, bro? Get a cut. If you
45:22hold on if you listen to me, I'm trying
45:23to explain it.
45:24>> I can finally get a patrol guy to come
45:26over here and drive you over to the
45:28police department. We can fill out the
45:29paperwork and immediately
45:31>> put it on there and then they can give
45:32you a ride back.
45:33>> No, I want my family.
45:34>> Do you want your family around my
45:36parents around and stuff?
45:37>> Okay. Well,
45:39>> when you download
45:40>> Well, we just tried to call them several
45:42times. Um,
45:45when do you think that you would want to
45:47come up and meet with us? or if I gave
45:49you a card, could you reach out and then
45:51we could set up a time for you to come
45:53in and it it can be today. That's fine.
45:55And we can sit down and
45:57>> it got to be today. You got to see my
45:59phone.
45:59>> I'm fine with that. Listen, I don't want
46:01to hold on your phone any longer than I
46:02need to.
46:04>> Um I'm just trying to think what's the
46:06most convenient thing for you because
46:08honestly, here's the thing.
46:10>> Your name's in it.
46:12>> All right.
46:12>> I want to take it out.
46:13>> Okay.
46:14>> And that's going to aid me in doing
46:16that. And that's pull the location, all
46:19that stuff out there. That's the kind of
46:21stuff that allows us to be able to say,
46:23"Hey, look, his phone was actually over
46:25here right where he said it was, we can
46:27now, even though his ID is in the car,
46:29people are saying that he was in the
46:31car, cuz you yourself already said that
46:33people are saying on the street you did
46:34it, that you were in that car."
46:35>> No, they said they asked me was I was
46:38>> Well, they asking you for a reason,
46:40right? They're asking you because
46:42they're hearing on the street you were
46:44in that car
46:47>> and it doesn't help when we hear it cuz
46:49you know we're hearing the same stuff,
46:50right?
46:51>> I heard that. I heard it before.
46:53>> But why? Why are they asking you?
46:55>> Cuz that's my partner.
46:56>> Yeah. But why they they're asking you?
46:58Cuz the assumption is what?
47:02>> They're asking you because they're
47:03thinking that you were with him.
47:05>> Yeah.
47:05>> Why else ask? You know who else they're
47:08telling? the [snorts] police. We're
47:10telling the police that you know who was
47:12in that car. Glenn
47:14>> probably
47:16>> Kyle Frank.
47:18>> You know, they're saying names like that
47:21and that's why I'm saying pull location
47:24stuff out and whatnot. That's actually
47:26going to help you out as far as getting
47:30your name out.
47:31>> We're not We're not looking to take your
47:32phone.
47:32>> We're not just trying to be a dick.
47:34>> Yeah.
47:35So
47:37>> I feel like I come around.
47:41>> Yeah, we're not going to do it until
47:44we there's a little form
47:46have you sign off on we take it over
47:48there, put it on the machine. Uh how big
47:50is it like gigabyte wise? Like 128 64.
47:55Okay. So I don't know how long it will
47:57take but usually
47:58>> that usually depends on how long it'll
48:00take the size of the device. Yeah.
48:02>> And basically, you know, once you fill
48:05all that out, they go, they plug it into
48:07this machine. The machine then just
48:09makes a copy of it. That's it. It
48:11doesn't delete anything. It doesn't take
48:12any of your contacts.
48:13>> And then we hand it back.
48:14>> You have your photos, you know,
48:15everything that you want. Like, we're
48:17not taking anything from you.
48:19>> Whatever is on the phone, it's just
48:21making copy.
48:22>> It's just making photos.
48:24>> We want to look at the location. We want
48:26to look at specific things. We're not
48:28sitting here wanting to go through your
48:29photos. We don't want to go through all
48:30that other stuff.
48:32>> And the thing is,
48:32>> well, I'm I'm not going to lie to you.
48:34We are going to look at your photos
48:36probably in your videos.
48:37>> Why?
48:37>> Because here's the thing. I want to see
48:39if you're there holding an AK-47 or if
48:42you're there holding a gun. I want to
48:44see if you're there like
48:46PVE forever.
48:48>> No, not yet. I ain't going to lie to
48:50you. I don't have no guns, but like guns
48:54in front of you.
48:55>> Thoughts of you with guns. Okay. I don't
48:58got I don't have nothing.
49:01>> Is there anything on your phone that's
49:02going to that's going to connect you to
49:04this?
49:04>> Y'all going to look at my phone. You
49:06going to be like, "Oh, he's gang bang
49:08me." I ain't no gang bang.
49:10>> Are you stacking?
49:11>> No. Stack like this. Like
49:14>> what's that for?
49:15>> Cuz you know she keep going like this. I
49:19be
49:19>> That ain't going to help you. I'm going
49:21to tell you that ain't going to help
49:21you. So there going to be pictures of
49:23you throwing gang signs.
49:25>> That's what I'm saying. I know that's
49:26not going to help me, bro. Bro, that's
49:28what I'm saying.
49:28>> But the location can help.
49:30>> Yeah, the location can help me, bro. But
49:32like,
49:32>> I want you to be straight with me. Were
49:33you in Bethl this weekend? Yeah, this
49:36past weekend.
49:37>> I have been to Beth.
49:38>> Okay. Why didn't you tell me that
49:39earlier?
49:40>> I ain't been nowhere. I said I had been
49:42to Bethl Home.
49:42>> No, you said you were with your
49:44girlfriend or you were
49:45>> I was with my girlfriend
49:46>> in Bethl.
49:47>> No, I didn't visit Bethl homes at all
49:49this past weekend. [clears throat]
49:53I'm not saying Bethl anytime. Like this
49:55past weekend, were you in Bethl?
49:57>> Friday, Saturday, Sunday?
49:59>> Probably.
50:00>> Were you there that night?
50:04Be straight.
50:06>> Mhm.
50:07>> That's a yes. Okay.
50:09>> I can tell.
50:12>> Who was in the car?
50:13>> I don't not know who was in the car.
50:15>> Okay. What What actually if you got some
50:18information that helps out your buddies,
50:20tell us what happened. If they got shot
50:21at first and they're shooting back, get
50:24it. Self-defense, fine with it. But the
50:27problem is, no one wants to say [ __ ]
50:29So, what's gonna end up happening is
50:31your buddy, he's going to go down for
50:33murder cuz he's got nothing. I'm just
50:35going to tell you, he's got no defense,
50:37nothing. His car is clearly on there,
50:40his tag is pulled up, and there's a
50:42whole bunch of guys with rifles and
50:43everything else shooting a dude in the
50:45head. And we've got a video. We've got
50:48video from Bethl, too, of a large group
50:50loitering out there. Okay.
50:52>> You said you were out there around 1:00
50:53a.m. Okay. We got you on camera.
50:56>> If you're out there, you're going to be
50:57on camera. That's facts.
50:59>> There's a large group out there.
51:02>> You're not going to be on the camera?
51:03Why is that?
51:04>> I didn't go out there and chill. I just
51:06went out
51:08pick up some
51:09>> If you went out there, did you go
51:11towards Anony's car?
51:15>> Maybe. What were you driving?
51:17>> I was driving I wasn't even driving. I
51:19was driving with my homeboy.
51:22>> What car?
51:24>> His mom car.
51:25>> Who's your homeboy?
51:26>> My
51:28>> That's another name I've heard.
51:29>> Yeah,
51:30>> I've heard he was actually involved.
51:33>> I see. Yeah. But
51:34>> actually, no. My was with Brown that
51:36night. Nick.
51:38>> Yeah, he
51:39>> But like he took me home.
51:42>> What was he driving?
51:43>> He driving his mom car. What?
51:45>> His mama being who? H
51:47>> who's his mama?
51:49You don't know his mom? No,
51:50>> he just drove your mom. But like I was
51:52with my mom. I was like I told him I
51:55like take me home.
51:56>> What kind of car is he he drive?
51:58>> He don't got no car. He got
52:00>> What is he driving? He's in his mom's
52:02car. What kind of silver Honda?
52:06>> No, he's not a Honda.
52:07>> Was it like a Nissan or something or
52:09>> like a It's a small sedan though, right?
52:12Wait a little sign is like
52:14>> it's like a little four-door car, right?
52:16>> Four-door car
52:17>> parks right next to right next to
52:19Anthony. Right. Right next to Nick.
52:23>> No. I mean, yes or no. You were there.
52:24>> Shrugging his shoulders like, "Yeah, so
52:26I don't."
52:26>> You were there and I saw the video.
52:30>> Here's the thing.
52:31>> All right.
52:31>> You were there and I saw the video.
52:35>> Wow. I watched hours of it. and
52:38intention because it looks like the guns
52:41come from his car and go into Nick's car
52:45>> and actually you would be consistent for
52:46the height and weight of the person that
52:48gets out of the carrying a rifle.
52:50>> Here
52:52were you wearing what kind what kind of
52:53clothes were you wearing that night? At
52:55least give me that so then I can know
52:57whether or not you were actually in that
52:59car or not.
53:02I had on my blue jacket. I had on I had
53:05on my forces and I had on some blue
53:07jeans on.
53:09>> Okay.
53:10>> But I told you I didn't get out.
53:13>> So you stayed in the car?
53:14>> Yeah, I pulled up.
53:15>> So Myon pulled up with you.
53:17>> Yeah. And then we left. I was like, I
53:20>> Were there guns in the car that they got
53:22out of the car?
53:23>> I feel like they got a gun. Like
53:25>> Okay. Out of Myron's car. Did guns come
53:27out of Myron's car?
53:30Did guns go into Myron's car when y'all
53:33left?
53:38>> And then I seen I didn't see them.
53:41>> Okay.
53:42>> Did you see the rifles,
53:44the little Draco or whatnot?
53:46>> All right. All right, Glenn,
53:49at this point, you you've kind of told
53:51us some some falsehoods. I appreciate
53:53you coming clean. Now, I need you to
53:55totally come clean.
53:56>> Okay.
53:57>> Cuz
53:59You've given us part of it.
54:01>> Okay. And well, that's what we're asking
54:02for.
54:03>> Honesty. Okay.
54:05>> Okay.
54:05>> We asked for it early on, but now we're
54:07getting
54:08>> I'm being honest with you. I'm going to
54:10>> I was with my baby mama the whole day.
54:11>> I'm going to ask you straight.
54:14>> Did you get into that car and go over
54:16there to where the shooting happened?
54:18>> No.
54:19>> Were you there during the shooting?
54:22>> Were you there after the shooting? Like
54:23had contact with Anthony afterwards?
54:26Like I ain't talked to Anthony. I ain't
54:28talked to him after.
54:29>> Your body language just told me again.
54:30>> I said I didn't talk to him after.
54:32>> Okay. Who came home or who came back to
54:35Bethl with Anthony?
54:38Who was in that car?
54:40>> You said
54:40>> it was already out.
54:41>> Because right now, do you know who I've
54:42got in that car? I've got Anthony Brown
54:45and you.
54:47So if you want to take yourself out of
54:48the car, then you put some other people
54:50in it.
54:50>> You just said they were already out
54:52there.
54:52>> Yeah. It would be Irish football. When
54:54you got to Bethl, they were already out
54:56there.
54:56>> Everybody was out there.
54:57>> Okay. You didn't see anyone get in and
54:59out of Anony's car?
55:01>> No.
55:02>> Who was hanging out with Anthony out
55:04there?
55:05>> Who do you
55:05>> So many folks was out there.
55:06>> Who do you remember seeing? It's not
55:08like there were 30. There weren't that
55:10many.
55:10>> No. I seen all
55:12>> I I I don't believe you when you tell me
55:14you don't know who's in the car.
55:16>> I Okay. You absolutely know who's in the
55:19car because you're sitting right there
55:20and you're watching them and it's
55:22something.
55:24>> No, because you wouldn't because you're
55:26sitting here and you've already been
55:28caught in lies. Here's what I'm going to
55:30tell you.
55:31>> Well, for one, you never mentioned being
55:32in Bethl.
55:33>> I said I Well, first
55:35>> until we until we said what I did over
55:37this summer. I mean, over this weekend,
55:38and I told you.
55:40>> Yeah, but you've conveniently left out
55:41that I hung out in Bethl
55:43>> at one. It don't just like like like bro
55:45I be doing a lot of stuff but I don't
55:47remember what I did.
55:48>> Well, I can tell you what I remember. I
55:50remember if I'm sitting there and my
55:52buddy went out and murdered somebody and
55:54came back with a bunch of rifles.
55:55>> My buddy murdered nobody.
55:56>> Well, I do cuz I saw him on video do it.
55:59>> And if you don't think that he did it,
56:00then who do you think did?
56:01>> Did Well, no. I'm saying if you're so
56:04confident he did it, then who did?
56:07>> Because he
56:09know him well.
56:10>> I can't say he did that.
56:11>> But you know him well, right? I just
56:13know like he don't be like, "Bro, why
56:15would he go do something in his car?"
56:17>> Man, you're talking yourself into a
56:19murder charge.
56:19>> I said, "Why would he do something in
56:21his car?"
56:23>> Why would he?
56:23>> Cuz he ain't thinking about why car is
56:25>> Why would he go kill somebody anyway?
56:27Why would he go to a party you don't
56:28need to be in?
56:29>> I don't know. Why did he
56:31>> I don't know why he does things, but he
56:33did.
56:34>> Then what I said and he didn't call He
56:35didn't talk to nothing.
56:36>> Well, listen, you understand Anony's
56:38already admitted to being there and
56:39shooting.
56:40>> But Frank already called you. No, Kyle
56:42called.
56:43>> Kyle called you. Okay. And
56:44>> he said, "You heard about Nick?" I said,
56:46"Yeah, I heard about Nick." Cuz his
56:47cousin called me that morning. I'm like,
56:48"Bro, they locked Nick up for a murder."
56:50Their cousin in Atlanta.
56:51>> And did Kyle tell you where he was that
56:53night?
56:54>> Kyle, he said they trying to say I did.
56:56I said I told him was state. They said
56:58Kyle.
57:00I also heard Kyle did it.
57:01>> And they said AJ name. Then I like [ __ ]
57:05>> But your ID is in his car.
57:07>> And that puts you in a very bad spot.
57:09And you're now admitting that you're out
57:11there at Bethl and that you're sitting
57:13there in Myron's car.
57:15>> You're sitting in Myron's car, which is
57:17sitting right next to Anony's car when
57:19they're loading guns in there.
57:20>> So if you're sitting in in Myron's car,
57:23then you were sitting right there when
57:25they're putting guns in Anony's car.
57:27>> Wait, did you get to Bethl around what
57:29time?
57:31>> Yes, I'll run the video back in my head.
57:37>> I ain't going to lie. I came out, guys.
57:39We left.
57:40>> You said it was around 1:00 a.m. before.
57:42Is that true? Or were you there at a
57:44different time?
57:47>> Like 1:00 a.m.
57:48>> 1:00 a.m.
57:49>> 2 a.m.
57:50>> Okay. Cuz the video is definitely going
57:52to be able to tell me that. Okay.
57:53>> All right.
57:54>> And you said you didn't get out of the
57:55car.
57:56>> Okay.
57:58>> Well, Glenn, here's the thing. We
58:01honestly, if you're not in it, I don't
58:03want you to be in it. But I'm gonna tell
58:05you, I need to know who's in that car
58:07because those people in the car,
58:10they can take you out.
58:12>> That's just facts. Okay? You don't need
58:15to get yourself
58:17>> because your ID is in the damn car,
58:19Glenn.
58:20>> And you you we've already been asking
58:23you about what you did that night.
58:25>> And you haven't been consistent at all.
58:28I know exactly what I did this past
58:29weekend.
58:30>> Okay.
58:31>> All right. I would assume that you
58:32would. I went to work from 6:00 to 2:30.
58:35Got off, took a shower, went home. I
58:38went home, took a shower, ate, called
58:40baby. She like, "We going to go out
58:41shopping for the baby." I got another
58:43baby on the girl. We went out shopping
58:44for the girl and stuff. Starbucks said,
58:47"Take up to your house." Took me up
58:49there to your house. May got y'all went
58:52to gamble. I like go gamble, do
58:53something. Came back and told him got
58:56stop grass.
58:58>> I don't know.
58:59>> Where did y'all gamble at? We got them
59:01on the east side.
59:02>> Huh?
59:03>> East side.
59:04>> East side. Where at on the east side?
59:06>> It's a gamble house.
59:07>> I need to know. I know. I know you don't
59:09want to rat anyone out, but I need to
59:11know.
59:11>> It's a gamble house.
59:12>> Where at the gamble house?
59:14>> What's the address?
59:16>> You said AG.
59:18>> Where?
59:19>> Say on the east side.
59:20>> Where on the east side did you go
59:22roughly?
59:22>> I don't know. Where is it? It's like
59:24part like a house.
59:25>> Okay. Like which apartment complex at?
59:28>> It's a house like
59:29>> Look, I'm not going to bust that place.
59:30I need to do it. I need to know so I can
59:32verify it because Brown's already told
59:34me. Nick already told me what he did
59:36that night. Okay.
59:37>> All right.
59:38>> I need you to be honest with me because
59:39he wasn't totally honest with me.
59:41>> All right.
59:42>> Okay. So, where did you gamble at?
59:44>> It was on East Side Gamble. I was like,
59:47I don't know. Where is it? Like pulled
59:49up with my
59:50>> Okay.
59:51>> Y'all getting mad at me cuz I don't
59:52>> No, I'm not getting mad. I want to
59:54understand. Okay.
59:55>> No, I'm telling you. I don't Nick told
59:58me he was gambling that night.
59:59>> Yeah. Okay.
1:00:00>> Okay. So, did you see Nick there
1:00:02gambling with Myron?
1:00:04>> I I can be honest with you. Yeah. I'm
1:00:05getting frustrated with you because
1:00:06you're giving answers that don't make
1:00:08sense and and your answers don't make
1:00:10sense because you're not wanting to be
1:00:12completely honest. You're wanting to,
1:00:14you know, just give enough information
1:00:16that you think we'll stop asking a
1:00:17question.
1:00:18>> No, I'm being honest with you, bro. He
1:00:20said, "Let's go over here gamble." Said,
1:00:21"All right, I'll go over there gamble."
1:00:22We didn't gamble.
1:00:23>> But you know where you went.
1:00:26So, where did you go in East Side? I'm
1:00:28going to tell you. Let me
1:00:31take you to the
1:00:32>> Then why when we're asking east side,
1:00:34you can't just say I went to I went to
1:00:36the east side. He went and he said let
1:00:38gamble like trying to bet on 2k and
1:00:40[ __ ] They didn't want to do that. He
1:00:41was like nah. He trying to make up a
1:00:43[ __ ] like like like pick and [ __ ] with
1:00:45a bet.
1:00:46>> So you went to No, it was not in the It
1:00:48was the east side. It was somewhere on
1:00:49the east.
1:00:50>> Gambling somewhere on the east side and
1:00:52then eventually you went to Bethl to buy
1:00:53some weed.
1:00:54>> Yeah. I love how I like it.
1:00:56>> Okay. Now, the reason that I'm asking
1:00:58you all these questions is Nick told me
1:01:00he was gambling.
1:01:02>> He could gambling.
1:01:02>> But the thing is is Nick told me he was
1:01:04with Myron. Okay. But you're telling me
1:01:07you were with Myron.
1:01:08>> Yeah.
1:01:08>> Okay. But then you're telling me you
1:01:10didn't see Nick.
1:01:11>> So put those put those pieces together.
1:01:14If you weren't with Nick, but you were
1:01:16with Myin. Nick's telling me he was with
1:01:18Myin.
1:01:20>> Okay. Figure out who's lying. Okay.
1:01:23That's why I'm asking you because
1:01:25>> my cam got me at like 11
1:01:30>> and I I was with Mimi the whole day.
1:01:32>> Oh, but from 11 to 2:00 a.m. the only
1:01:36person the only person that can account
1:01:38for your whereabouts is Myra,
1:01:40>> right? Is that what you're telling me?
1:01:44Or were you with Nick?
1:01:46>> No, Nick wasn't with his mom.
1:01:48>> Okay. Nick told me he was with them
1:01:51then. Okay. So, who's lying to me?
1:01:54>> [ __ ] where's the widow dance?
1:01:56>> Okay. So, you're not lying?
1:01:57>> No, I'm not lying to you.
1:02:00>> Okay.
1:02:03>> So,
1:02:03>> I'm not saying you're full of it, man.
1:02:04What I'm saying is if someone lied to
1:02:06me, so that's why I'm trying to figure
1:02:08it out.
1:02:09>> All right.
1:02:10>> And you said you never got out of my
1:02:12car.
1:02:12>> If Nick got his own car,
1:02:14>> why would he be with my
1:02:16>> I don't I don't
1:02:17>> No, no, but I I don't know. I really
1:02:20don't know what they had going on early.
1:02:21They be together every day and [ __ ] But
1:02:23when I when my came got me
1:02:25>> him and Myin real close.
1:02:26>> They close. Yeah, they close.
1:02:28>> So was Myin in that car?
1:02:29>> Yeah, close. I I can't tell you my
1:02:33>> Did Myron ever leave? Why
1:02:35>> didn't say nothing about him? Just
1:02:37>> Okay. Well, while you were there and
1:02:38you're sitting in Myron's car, did Myron
1:02:40get in Nick's car and go anywhere?
1:02:42>> No.
1:02:44>> Was there time that was unaccounted for
1:02:46with Myin?
1:02:49>> Huh? Were you Was there a point in time
1:02:52between 11 and 2 a.m. when you were
1:02:54hanging out with Myin?
1:02:56>> Is there a time period between 11:00
1:02:58p.m. and 2 a.m. where Myron, you didn't
1:03:01know where he was?
1:03:04>> 11:00 p.m. and 2:00 p.m.
1:03:05>> 11:00 p.m. to 2:00 a.m. at night. You
1:03:07said you were with Myron.
1:03:09>> At any point during that time, did Myron
1:03:11go missing?
1:03:12>> No.
1:03:13>> You were with him the whole time?
1:03:14>> From 11:00 p.m. to like what? God damn
1:03:18[ __ ] gloves.
1:03:20>> What was Myron wearing?
1:03:23>> I don't know.
1:03:25>> What do you think he was wearing?
1:03:33[clears throat] Um,
1:03:36>> I'm giving y'all my honest I'm giving
1:03:38y'all my honest true questions like
1:03:40answers for y'all. I cannot
1:03:43>> I I I think that you're still trying to
1:03:45protect your friends and I understand
1:03:46it.
1:03:47But the problem is you can't have your
1:03:49cake and eat it too.
1:03:50>> Okay?
1:03:51>> And what I mean by that is that you
1:03:53can't protect your friends while still
1:03:55coming across as making an honest
1:03:57statement.
1:03:59Right? Because you're only giving
1:04:00partial information. And you're giving
1:04:02information, partial information that
1:04:05reasonable people would know. If I hung
1:04:08out with a guy for three or four hours
1:04:09on Saturday night and there was a
1:04:12murder,
1:04:14there's no question in my mind that I'm
1:04:15gonna be able to at least say what he
1:04:17was wearing.
1:04:19Okay. When I look over, oh yeah, you
1:04:20know, he had
1:04:21>> like he came and got me went over there
1:04:22though. I forgot what he had on each
1:04:25other. Like he was like, "Bro, y'all
1:04:26ain't trying to bet me talking." They're
1:04:28like, "Man, nah." He said, "You know
1:04:30what you got to do? You want to bet?
1:04:31Give me that." I said, "I ain't got no B
1:04:33on like that, bro."
1:04:34>> Okay. Well, while you're recalling all
1:04:35this and you're thinking back and you're
1:04:36picturing in your mind, what's he
1:04:38wearing?
1:04:42>> Rel,
1:04:51you know, pull it up.
1:04:53>> How long were you at?
1:04:55>> No. Why don't you grab some little
1:04:58>> And you said you saw Nick out there?
1:05:00>> It were out there.
1:05:01>> Okay. Who was Nick hanging out with that
1:05:03night when you went out there?
1:05:07>> It was like the young people, like young
1:05:10folks. Who?
1:05:11>> Lil D.
1:05:13>> Who?
1:05:14>> Little D. Jay.
1:05:16>> Lil D.
1:05:17>> You said Lil D and Lil Jay.
1:05:19>> Lil Jay. I seen them out there. I
1:05:22>> Are you saying Jaylen or Jay and them?
1:05:24>> Jay. I just know Jay. Jay. I know.
1:05:27Little D. And who? I know you was some
1:05:30females out there and [ __ ] too.
1:05:32>> How you know uh Lil Jay?
1:05:34>> Cuz Beth home.
1:05:36>> Cuz of Beth home.
1:05:36>> He goes by Lil Jay.
1:05:39>> Do you know which building he stays at?
1:05:48>> I gota go back real quick. Who's Lil D?
1:05:51>> D he he somebody who be out there.
1:05:54>> What's his actual name though?
1:05:56>> I just know D. I mean, what's D short
1:05:59for? Is that
1:06:00>> Devonte? Way.
1:06:02>> How old?
1:06:04>> 14, 13.
1:06:10>> Okay.
1:06:11And uh how old is Lil Jay?
1:06:16>> Like 14 or 13. They hang around each
1:06:19other. They just
1:06:20>> Okay. And one of the the older guys are
1:06:23hanging out with the
1:06:25Nick. Who are the older guys that
1:06:27hanging out with Nick?
1:06:31>> Because there's a big crowd out there
1:06:33crowd
1:06:34>> and there's a whole and and to say that
1:06:36you don't know that who's who is he
1:06:38hanging out with I think is is not a
1:06:40believable statement.
1:06:42>> I just seen his car and I seen him leave
1:06:44without
1:06:44>> I mean got out [ __ ] hands got back in
1:06:48the car.
1:06:49>> Byron got out they shook hands and got
1:06:51back in the car and they dropped me off.
1:06:53>> Okay. And you said around what time was
1:06:55that? 1:00 a.m.
1:06:56>> I about 1:00 a.m.
1:06:57>> Okay. Cuz I want I'll I'll run that
1:06:59video back and see if that's You know,
1:07:01>> Were you all buying drugs from Nick?
1:07:04>> Is that
1:07:04>> It wasn't me.
1:07:05>> Well, who you buying drugs from?
1:07:09>> I'm not going to bust someone. I just
1:07:11want to know.
1:07:12>> I don't think you get it. It's a murder
1:07:14investigation, man.
1:07:16>> And I maybe you just haven't grasped
1:07:19some so much. You're still in the hot
1:07:21seat for getting charged with murder.
1:07:23>> Okay. Everything that happens in this
1:07:25investigation is important. In fact,
1:07:27even the smallest things. That's why
1:07:29we're asking the questions.
1:07:30>> Okay. All right.
1:07:32>> Like I said, we're really trying to take
1:07:34you out of it, but you got to take
1:07:35yourself out of it. And by telling us, I
1:07:38don't know who is there. I'm not sure.
1:07:40And things like that. That's the [ __ ]
1:07:42that keeps putting you back in it.
1:07:44Either you're in it or you're out. But
1:07:46you're looking at lifealtering choices
1:07:49right now.
1:07:50>> You either know something or you don't.
1:07:52You can't just hand us 40% and then
1:07:54think, "Oh, that's enough."
1:07:55>> That's why I said you can't have your
1:07:57cake and eat it too. Unfortunately,
1:07:59that's just where we are. Nick made
1:08:01certain decisions.
1:08:03>> And unfortunately, his certain decisions
1:08:04have screwed you.
1:08:05>> Him and his friends have put you in this
1:08:07position. Okay.
1:08:08>> I mean, what are you going to do? You
1:08:10going to sit here and not give
1:08:12>> I'm saying I'm just saying hypothetical.
1:08:14>> I told you I swear I sit here, but I
1:08:17like stay out there with them. If you
1:08:19sit out sit here and you not don't give
1:08:21names and things like that and you play
1:08:23this game of I want to sit on a fence
1:08:25cuz they're my buddies.
1:08:26>> We went to the east side. We did that.
1:08:28We came to the like they w trying to g
1:08:32like 20 minutes. Sure.
1:08:33>> Came to the garage took you 12.
1:08:37I left the house at
1:08:38>> So who's hanging out with Nick when you
1:08:39get there?
1:08:40>> He was just they was just like all
1:08:42sitting out there like who is that?
1:08:44>> He was just a whole bunch of folk like
1:08:46some emails and stuff. You said Lil D.
1:08:48>> Li I seen Li J.
1:08:50>> Who else?
1:08:52>> Just trying to think back.
1:09:00>> Let's see. Ruski.
1:09:02>> Who?
1:09:03>> I don't even know their real name, but I
1:09:04>> That's fine. Nickname.
1:09:06>> I know Ruski was not
1:09:08>> Ruski.
1:09:09>> How old's he?
1:09:12>> If you had if you had to guess, is he
1:09:14like your age?
1:09:16We come from
1:09:18>> Does he look like the the young
1:09:19>> He's like 13 to 14 or is he like
1:09:22>> older older guy?
1:09:23>> Okay. So, how old would you guess if you
1:09:25just had to guess?
1:09:26>> Okay.
1:09:27>> Think back.
1:09:28>> So, he's in his 20s. What's he look
1:09:29like?
1:09:31>> H.
1:09:31>> What's he look like? Like hairstyle and
1:09:33all that?
1:09:35>> Like like a little fro twist.
1:09:38>> Small twists. Are they color or are they
1:09:41like just black or they're
1:09:44>> black?
1:09:45>> Okay.
1:09:47>> PG red.
1:09:48>> Do you remember what he was wearing?
1:09:51>> Do you remember what anyone was wearing
1:09:53that night? Anything specific that may
1:09:55have stood out to you?
1:10:02>> No.
1:10:03Ain't nothing stand out there.
1:10:05>> So the same like just f it was already
1:10:08dark.
1:10:09>> So Ruski's out there. Who else?
1:10:13>> It was just a female. Like I seen some
1:10:15more females out there.
1:10:17>> Well, I know want to know about the
1:10:18males.
1:10:19>> The the group that was with Nick. I know
1:10:22that there are at least seven. Okay. So
1:10:26we've already named three, but who are
1:10:29the others that that were out there with
1:10:31him?
1:10:38I didn't even get out.
1:10:42>> How far did Myron walk over? You said
1:10:45Myron got out and shook hands with him.
1:10:47Did he go to the sidewalk and then back
1:10:49to the car?
1:10:51>> Only third thing went behind his car and
1:10:53they was talking behind the car. He
1:10:54stopped again. I was on the phone. I was
1:10:56going to say something.
1:10:58Okay. So Myon would know who they are
1:11:00though probably. No, Larry don't even be
1:11:03out. I told him like, "Bro, stop me by
1:11:04this so I can get this and leave." And
1:11:06then she I guess she came back.
1:11:07>> Well, who arranged to get the weed?
1:11:09Like, who did you who made the reach out
1:11:12>> to get the weed?
1:11:13>> Yeah, you did. Who did you text for the
1:11:15weed?
1:11:16>> Little Joe.
1:11:17>> Lil Joe. Okay. So, Lil Joe, did he come
1:11:21up to the car and do the deal in like
1:11:23right there in the back? So, Lil Joe was
1:11:25out there.
1:11:30I don't care about we getting hand off.
1:11:32What I care about is who saw who out
1:11:34there. Okay.
1:11:35>> Yeah.
1:11:35>> So that's what we're trying to do is
1:11:36establish who was out there.
1:11:39>> So who saw what?
1:11:40>> Yeah.
1:11:40>> Okay. That's what we're trying to
1:11:42establish. We're not here to try and,
1:11:44you know, say, "Oh, look, someone got a
1:11:46little bit of weed." You know, like
1:11:47that's not what I'm I'm here for. Okay.
1:11:51We're here to try and, you know, get as
1:11:53many witnesses as possible and make sure
1:11:55the information is as accurate as
1:11:57possible because I don't want to place
1:12:00someone on arrest for murder and it
1:12:02didn't do it.
1:12:03>> I don't want to go on arrest for murder.
1:12:04No, I didn't.
1:12:05>> Would it wouldn't you think that that
1:12:07would be a bad thing if someone was
1:12:08arrested because of information that was
1:12:11poor?
1:12:12>> Yes.
1:12:12>> So, that's why we get as detailed as
1:12:14>> that. We want to make sure we're doing
1:12:16the followup instead of just making
1:12:18assumptions. That's why we're here
1:12:20talking to you, right? Let me ask you,
1:12:21do you think that technically speaking,
1:12:23we would have what would be called
1:12:24probable cause to say that you are
1:12:26involved in a shooting cuz your ID is
1:12:27sitting in the car and you kind of match
1:12:30and you're seen on camera at Bethl,
1:12:32right? We could technically say that,
1:12:33but that's not what we're doing. We're
1:12:35here talking to you in a car.
1:12:38>> Okay. Well, we can say that you were
1:12:40definitely in Bethl.
1:12:41>> Say I was definitely in Beth.
1:12:42>> Okay. And you are an associate, Mr.
1:12:46Brown, and your ID is in the car.
1:12:47>> All right. It's my part. told you that's
1:12:49your partner.
1:12:50>> So, but we're not going to just go on
1:12:52that assumption and say, "Well, he was
1:12:53there. His ID is in the car. Let's sign
1:12:55warrants on him." We're going to follow
1:12:57through.
1:12:58>> I'm just telling you what I heard.
1:12:59>> I understand. It's okay.
1:13:02>> Now, so you saw Myron go behind his car.
1:13:06>> Got at the back of the cars. Him and
1:13:09Nick shook hands.
1:13:12>> I ain't going to say Nick. I don't see
1:13:14him talk to me. I just want to get out.
1:13:17But my world would be a source who'd be
1:13:19able to provide more information about
1:13:20who was out there because he got out and
1:13:22was talking to people. I
1:13:23>> say my be out
1:13:26>> but he was out there that night.
1:13:27>> Where does Myron stay?
1:13:30>> You don't know?
1:13:30>> I don't know. He be with Nick.
1:13:33>> Okay.
1:13:35>> And then I think they were with each
1:13:37other.
1:13:39>> Do you think Myra and Nick were
1:13:40together? after me. He got down, dropped
1:13:42me off and went back down like cuz you
1:13:44know I went up to Atlanta and back down
1:13:48each other. I seen him live.
1:13:51>> Was Myron wearing red pants at night?
1:13:56>> You saw him on his live? Which account?
1:14:00>> My girl.
1:14:00>> No, I'm saying whose account?
1:14:02>> Oh, my girl. She
1:14:03>> Your girl was the one posting.
1:14:05>> She said, "Why they still live out?" She
1:14:07was showing.
1:14:08>> No, no, no. Yeah. Yeah. What I'm trying
1:14:09to say is your girl told you about it.
1:14:12Whose account were they posting the live
1:14:13video from?
1:14:14>> It was live.
1:14:15>> It was Nick's account.
1:14:17>> Okay, that's what I was trying to
1:14:18understand. Okay, so there's a video
1:14:21there would be a video on his account on
1:14:23his live
1:14:25>> basically of him with Myron
1:14:27>> that before or after the shooting
1:14:31>> or do you are you saying
1:14:32>> was at 12:16, right? I seen it when
1:14:34y'all posted.
1:14:35>> That's very specific.
1:14:37>> I looked at It was very specific.
1:14:39>> I looked at
1:14:39>> No, no, that's you.
1:14:40>> No, fair enough. Fair. Fair enough.
1:14:43Like, come on, bro. I looked.
1:14:44>> So, like, are you saying that he was
1:14:46with him like at that time or later?
1:14:49Like later that night?
1:14:52>> Okay. So, you're thinking later?
1:14:53>> I don't know.
1:14:59>> I said, "Yeah, that about what time they
1:15:02live." At 12 something.
1:15:05So right around that mean
1:15:09like 12.
1:15:12Okay. It got down past 12. I heard.
1:15:14>> But you said Myin took you home.
1:15:16>> My home.
1:15:17>> But you wouldn't have been home at that
1:15:19time.
1:15:20>> What?
1:15:21>> You said Myron picked you up at 11:00.
1:15:23You got home
1:15:24>> east side.
1:15:25>> Yeah. So did he leave you there
1:15:26>> to East Side?
1:15:27>> Yeah.
1:15:28>> No.
1:15:28>> Went out there. We went to [ __ ]
1:15:30>> But you said that they went live around
1:15:3212 something. Him and Nick. No,
1:15:34>> but you said you were with Myron.
1:15:36>> No, I said goddamn. They had They
1:15:39dropped me off.
1:15:40>> So they dropped you off. Did they say
1:15:41they were coming back? Gone back to the
1:15:43Bethl.
1:15:44>> Where?
1:15:44>> Iron said goddamn. He went to like All
1:15:46right, bro.
1:15:47>> Where did they drop you off?
1:15:47>> Dropped him.
1:15:48>> I got dropped off at my baby mama house.
1:15:50>> You You got dropped off at your baby
1:15:51mama's house after once.
1:15:54>> I said I was like you about something.
1:15:56Yeah.
1:15:57>> Yeah. Okay.
1:15:58>> Who all was in the car when you got
1:15:59dropped off? Your
1:16:00>> mind.
1:16:03I'm not trying to beat a dead horse
1:16:04here. I'm just trying to understand it.
1:16:06Maybe I've confused myself. Okay.
1:16:08>> So,
1:16:10you said that you were with Myron from
1:16:1211:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. Then he dropped
1:16:14you off at your baby mama's place.
1:16:15>> I see like about 1:00 a.m.
1:16:16>> Okay. About 1:00 a.m.
1:16:18>> But then No, that's just my fine cuz
1:16:21like when I got in there chill like
1:16:23>> That's fine. I'm not I'm not nitpicking
1:16:24that.
1:16:26>> I want to understand. You said that your
1:16:28baby mama showed you a live of Nick and
1:16:32Myin that went up around 12 something,
1:16:35right?
1:16:35>> She like, "Why the hell they still out?"
1:16:37>> So, if they hosted a live together at 12
1:16:40something, weren't you supposed to be
1:16:42with Myron at that time?
1:16:43>> I said, "Doesn't that mean that you
1:16:45would have had to have been home before
1:16:4712?"
1:16:49It was about like when about like 12
1:16:51something like 12 when
1:16:53>> So let me let me ask you. Does that m
1:16:56make you think that maybe you got home
1:16:58before 1?
1:17:01Okay. Does it make you think maybe you
1:17:03got home before midnight?
1:17:07If they're going on live
1:17:09>> I left the house at like 11.
1:17:11>> Yeah. Yeah. What I'm trying to
1:17:12understand is you were saying you were
1:17:14with Myin. That's fine. Okay. But if
1:17:17Myron and Nick are posting a live video,
1:17:20if Myron and Nick are posting a live
1:17:22video on Instagram at like 12 something,
1:17:26but you're not with Myin, then where are
1:17:28you?
1:17:29>> I was back at my mom.
1:17:30>> Then you would have been back home
1:17:32before 1. If they're posting something,
1:17:34>> I got my estimation time.
1:17:35>> Okay. Okay. Fair enough.
1:17:36>> That's That's
1:17:37>> I don't know like what time they
1:17:39actually went live. I just know it like
1:17:40late, bro. I'm in the bed and [ __ ]
1:17:42>> Fair enough. Okay. Okay. And that's
1:17:43>> I just know like they went live and
1:17:45that's fine. I just I want to make sure
1:17:47they What were they doing on live?
1:17:49>> What were they
1:17:50>> listening to music?
1:17:51>> Just listen sitting around listening to
1:17:53music. Were they like in the car or
1:17:55what?
1:17:56>> Yeah, it like they were driving. It was
1:17:58like
1:17:58>> So they're driving together.
1:17:59>> Yeah. It don't look like goddamn
1:18:02home.
1:18:02>> Who was driving?
1:18:04>> Like my driving
1:18:06>> and it like they was in Myron car.
1:18:08>> Okay. So at that point they're in
1:18:09Myron's car in Myron's car.
1:18:12>> I know Nick ain't going to let my drive
1:18:14car. Why you let him drive? He going to
1:18:15drive your own car. But Nick was alive.
1:18:18>> Well, and Nick's car is his mom's car,
1:18:20right?
1:18:21>> White Hunter.
1:18:21>> Yeah.
1:18:22>> Yeah.
1:18:23>> That's a my name.
1:18:24>> Okay.
1:18:25>> But like that's his car though.
1:18:26>> But it's his car. His mom lets him drive
1:18:28it.
1:18:29>> Yeah.
1:18:32>> Does Nick uh have you ever seen anything
1:18:34hanging from his rearview mirror?
1:18:43Does he keep anything on his rearview
1:18:44mirror?
1:18:45>> Rearview mirror?
1:18:46>> Yeah.
1:18:48>> You don't know.
1:19:00[snorts]
1:19:02I
1:19:03>> think it'd be the second or third page.
1:19:05>> My stuff.
1:19:06>> Yeah. from Is that what you wanted me to
1:19:08look at
1:19:09>> or is this just you just setting it
1:19:11down?
1:19:13My bad.
1:19:15>> Oops.
1:19:18>> Is there anything else that you can
1:19:20think of that you haven't mentioned so
1:19:22far that you would think would be
1:19:25beneficial or or important to the case?
1:19:30So, it sounds like from what I'm getting
1:19:32from you, Byron would definitely be
1:19:35someone who we should talk to about
1:19:36this,
1:19:38>> sounds like he would probably know what
1:19:40happened that night cuz he was with
1:19:42Nick.
1:19:43>> Yes.
1:19:43>> Going live right around the time
1:19:47>> later or whatever. But he's obviously
1:19:49with Nick either right around the time
1:19:51the shooting happens or right after.
1:19:52Right.
1:19:54So, would it be unusual for them to not
1:19:57talk about it? Huh?
1:20:00>> Would it be weird if they did not
1:20:02discuss the shooting if Nick had been
1:20:03involved in a shooting?
1:20:04>> Have you he been involved in the
1:20:05shooting? Yeah, it would be weird
1:20:07>> for them to not talk about it. Yeah. So
1:20:10reasonable,
1:20:10>> but like like I said, I ain't hear
1:20:12nothing about it to the next like one I
1:20:14woke up and [ __ ] and got down my big
1:20:16brother had whipped me up. Bro, they're
1:20:18like, "Bro, what the hell going on with
1:20:19Lick? They talking about he was involved
1:20:20in shooting shit." I was like, "What?"
1:20:22>> Okay. And you were saying you absolutely
1:20:26were not in that car. did not involve
1:20:29yourself in a shooting,
1:20:31>> that there may be pictures in the phone
1:20:33of you with guns and doing game signs,
1:20:35>> but but that
1:20:37>> but but that you did not do the shooting
1:20:40and that your locations in the phone
1:20:42should help help show that you were not
1:20:44there.
1:20:44>> Okay.
1:20:46>> Look, and that's the thing. As long as
1:20:48there's nothing on there that's going to
1:20:49be clear as day, you know, he was he was
1:20:52part of it, that helps. Okay. Like we're
1:20:56that's what we're looking for. We're
1:20:58looking for making sure that you weren't
1:20:59involved at all. Okay.
1:21:01>> Is there anything that you feel like we
1:21:03should know about that we have not asked
1:21:05you about?
1:21:08>> Okay.
1:21:09>> I'm going to give you my card because I
1:21:12know you don't want me to get you a ride
1:21:13to get out there. So that's my card.
1:21:15What I want you to do is I want you to
1:21:17call me to set up the one to come in and
1:21:20we can get that thing done. If I don't
1:21:22hear from you
1:21:24in the next day,
1:21:26>> well, that's great. But if I don't hear
1:21:27from you in the next day or so, what
1:21:29we're going to do is a search warrant
1:21:30and we'll do a search warrant to do the
1:21:32the download. It is faster to do it via
1:21:37consent because we can just come in
1:21:38there, get it signed, and get it done.
1:21:42>> How long will it take?
1:21:43It's hard to say because I don't know
1:21:45how large the phone is because that's
1:21:47>> it can be I'll be honest with you it can
1:21:48be anywhere from you know an hour to
1:21:51several hours. It just
1:21:53>> going to be least same data right
1:21:55>> it typically yes that's typical for it.
1:21:58>> Okay.
1:21:58>> Yeah. So all I can say is that it's
1:22:01typically faster to do it via consent
1:22:03because we can obviously just sign the
1:22:04form walk back there and hand it to like
1:22:08there when you do I want
1:22:09>> that's fine. Um,
1:22:12call me. We'll get it set up. If I don't
1:22:14hear from you, we'll do it via the
1:22:15search warrant, but call me. We'll get
1:22:16it set up because I want to get it back
1:22:18to you.
1:22:19>> Okay. If you hear anything else
1:22:21>> and you said, "Y'all go through my
1:22:23photos."
1:22:23>> Well, yeah.
1:22:25>> We'll be going through the phone because
1:22:26we're looking for any evidence to the
1:22:28murder. If there's nothing in there
1:22:30related to the murder, we don't care.
1:22:32>> I don't care about it.
1:22:33>> I can tell you what what I don't care
1:22:35about is if your photos of like sex
1:22:37stuff and all that [ __ ] I don't look at
1:22:38that.
1:22:40I Well, I'm telling you, I don't care to
1:22:42look at that. I don't care about that.
1:22:44That tends to be what everyone's always
1:22:46concerned about when it comes to their
1:22:47phone is they got pictures of stuff.
1:22:49>> I got pictures.
1:22:50>> I don't care about that. Those are the
1:22:52ones I'm absolutely not going to look
1:22:54at. I will tell you pictures like guns
1:22:57doing hand stack and things like that.
1:22:59That is stuff that's going to be
1:23:01relevant to us because this is a gang
1:23:03related homicide.
1:23:05>> Fact. I mean, just facts.
1:23:08I be throwing up stuff and stuff like
1:23:09that. I don't that like I
1:23:11>> Look, we were honest with you. Well, let
1:23:13me ask you. Who you throwing up for?
1:23:15>> What you mean when I'm throwing up?
1:23:17>> Who you throwing up for?
1:23:19>> What you mean?
1:23:19>> When you throw up the hand signs, what
1:23:21>> like that's Cheek Keith? That's somebody
1:23:24from Chicago. Like, how' you
1:23:25>> Okay.
1:23:28Okay.
1:23:29>> Keep going. Keep going. What up?
1:23:32>> Dead right there.
1:23:34>> Is that fork? This
1:23:37>> is global.
1:23:41>> It's the other one.
1:23:46>> What's that for?
1:23:48>> I guess it is.
1:23:49>> Well, you know what it is. Not what you
1:23:50guess. What is it?
1:23:54>> Why Why does EVK throw that?
1:23:58>> It is what it is. I'm a gang
1:23:59investigator in case you don't know. So,
1:24:01I'm familiar with the EBK right here.
1:24:03>> Yeah. Why do they use that one?
1:24:07I ain't know.
1:24:11>> I guess this K but gang. Hold this up
1:24:15though. This is a K right here. This is
1:24:18Glo.
1:24:20You feel me? That's K.
1:24:24>> His Instagram.
1:24:25>> He says he doesn't have Instagram, but I
1:24:27bet we're going to find Instagram.
1:24:29>> Are you going to have an Instagram
1:24:30account on your phone?
1:24:32>> No.
1:24:33>> No. straight up. [snorts] Okay. So, call
1:24:35me. We'll get that set up. Don't want to
1:24:38hold on to your phone any longer than I
1:24:39need to. I appreciate you talking to me.
1:24:42Appreciate you talking to all of us.
1:24:44>> Um, here's reality. If you weren't
1:24:46there, we want to take you out of it.
1:24:48>> How am I supposed to get home?
1:24:51I can't let nobody.
1:24:52>> You know, they got, you know, they got
1:24:53this call, Mom.
1:24:55>> You know, they Hold on. You know, they
1:24:56got this miraculous thing. It's called
1:24:59landlines.
1:25:01>> So, it's like phones like that. They're
1:25:03plugged into the walls. You just
1:25:07>> You see where I'm going? I'm
1:25:09>> I see where you're going. You're not I'm
1:25:10being I'm being a smartass, but the
1:25:12reality is is
1:25:14>> you can just call
1:25:16>> Yeah. You're just going to have to call
1:25:18somebody.
1:25:19>> Um I like I said, I try to arrange you a
1:25:22ride to just get you out there, but you
1:25:23don't want to go. And I and I get that
1:25:25cuz no one wants to go in a police car.
1:25:28>> So, it is what it is. But, you know, I'm
1:25:30I'm trying to do something and that's
1:25:32really the only thing I've got
1:25:33available. But, you know, there's
1:25:36options out there. Okay. So, call me and
1:25:39we'll get that squared away.
1:25:41>> You got any questions for us other than
1:25:43that?
1:25:45>> All right. I hope to hear from you soon.
1:25:47I'm sorry that we had to come out your
1:25:48job and do it. Okay.
1:25:51>> Oh, yeah.
1:25:53you know, like the address on the thing.
1:25:55>> Uhhuh.
1:25:55>> We do. It's on my Google map cuz I was
1:25:58looking like my uncle was showing me.
1:26:00>> Okay.
1:26:01>> Okay. Well, thank you.
1:26:17So by us asking who's involved, who's
1:26:19part of this, who are these people?
1:26:22>> Yeah.
1:26:23>> This is like
1:26:24>> it's it's a way for you to help
1:26:26yourself,
1:26:27>> right?
1:26:28>> It's all it is.
1:26:31>> Sam, I'm trying to help you so bad.
1:26:36>> But I I think you know more than a
1:26:39little D. Like what was the other guy's
1:26:41nickname?
1:26:48>> Nick said
1:26:52what Nick said.
1:26:53>> What Nick said? Sun.
1:26:59>> Yeah.
1:27:02So Lil D would have been in the back
1:27:03seat and Sunson would have been in the
1:27:05front seat,
1:27:07right?
1:27:08Is that yes or no?
1:27:11>> No.
1:27:12>> Huh?
1:27:13>> No.
1:27:14>> Okay, then correct me. Lil D would have
1:27:16been in the front seat. Sunson would
1:27:18have been in the back seat.
1:27:23Huh? That's a yes. I see that you're
1:27:27nodding. Yes.
1:27:29Man, this is so weird, bro. Well, it is
1:27:33weird, but I mean, let me just tell you
1:27:35what the
1:27:37really the most basic part of this is
1:27:39the, you know, sorting it out.
1:27:43>> Sorting out, give me our name. It's not
1:27:45basic, man. Like,
1:27:48I feel [ __ ] just pointless, man.
1:27:51>> Well, let me tell you like a scenario.
1:27:55So, what's going to happen?
1:27:57>> Yeah.
1:27:58>> Is at some point we got to go to court
1:28:00on this.
1:28:01>> Yeah. And
1:28:04>> I'm still going to be hold and they
1:28:06going to sentence me at court.
1:28:07>> Well, no. I mean, because we got we got
1:28:09a lot of stuff to go through before
1:28:12before the judge makes any sort of
1:28:14decision.
1:28:15>> Yeah.
1:28:16>> But but think about it this way. So, if
1:28:19I'm I'm gonna pretend to be the the
1:28:21attorney, I'm gonna say,
1:28:24ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this
1:28:27guy here is on video at Bethl and he's
1:28:30getting in the car and he's driving to
1:28:33the scene and he admits to having a
1:28:36Draco in his in his possession. He says
1:28:40he doesn't shoot it, but guess what?
1:28:42Somebody did and he doesn't know who.
1:28:45And then he comes back to the scene and
1:28:48we see him getting out of the car and we
1:28:50see him taking a gun to a car. You know,
1:28:53what do you think, ladies and gentlemen?
1:28:54What do you think this guy did? And
1:28:57anybody with a just a little bit of
1:28:59common sense will say and he pretends he
1:29:02doesn't know who is in the car with him
1:29:04that that gave him this rifle. They'll
1:29:06think that's preposterous.
1:29:09And when the when the jury doesn't
1:29:10believe you or think that you're cuz
1:29:14it I mean I'll be honest with you that
1:29:16you don't get the opportunity to testify
1:29:19in front of the jury mostly because
1:29:23your attorney doesn't want to give the
1:29:26the the um prosecutor the chance to
1:29:30really tear you apart. And they're good
1:29:32at that. you know, they can twist every
1:29:34little thing that you say so that so
1:29:37that you look like the bad guy. And I
1:29:40don't think you're the bad guy here, but
1:29:42you got to help me prove that you're not
1:29:44because what they're going to say is you
1:29:47showed up, you had a gun, you left with
1:29:50a gun, and here's this guy in the dead
1:29:53in the in the bushes.
1:29:57And I don't think that's that's exactly
1:29:59the case, but you got to help us figure
1:30:01out who it was that did do this or that
1:30:03at least was shooting. You know, maybe
1:30:06>> the folks seen his car
1:30:08>> and Well, and I I believe that.
1:30:10>> And they said they got pulled over.
1:30:13>> So they the police pulled him over.
1:30:15>> Yeah. And I believe that too.
1:30:17>> Yeah. And they let them go.
1:30:19>> Yeah. And Well, that's a whole different
1:30:20>> And then they on Instagram saying they
1:30:22ain't getting investigated or not.
1:30:24>> Well, that's we'll see. and all that.
1:30:25That's
1:30:26>> who posted that
1:30:28>> your folks who was in his car.
1:30:30>> Yeah. Do you know his name or nickname
1:30:32or
1:30:32>> what do you was
1:30:34>> your friend was telling you about
1:30:36>> cuz I I saw something posted but I
1:30:38wanted to know if you could confirm it.
1:30:39>> Yeah.
1:30:40>> So, do you know that person's nickname
1:30:42or what their street name is? What they
1:30:44go by?
1:30:46We just kill him.
1:30:49>> But back to what I was saying that
1:30:51>> I don't I don't want you sitting there
1:30:53while that the prosecutor says all kinds
1:30:56of bad mean stuff about you or things
1:30:58that that paint you in a in a light that
1:31:00is not you.
1:31:02>> Yeah. And
1:31:04but the easiest way to do that is to say
1:31:07I mean you told us it was at least D but
1:31:11that that doesn't go very far cuz you
1:31:13know D could be
1:31:15>> you know
1:31:16>> lot of different people.
1:31:17>> Yeah it can be a lot of different people
1:31:19>> and you know if it's D that's kind of
1:31:22worthless. I mean that's not much more
1:31:24than saying it was A B C or D. Mhm.
1:31:28>> And and we just can't we can't go with
1:31:31just D. You got to do better than that.
1:31:34And I can tell just the way that you're
1:31:35you're responding to this that you know
1:31:37more than that cuz you said you didn't
1:31:40>> I don't know. I didn't
1:31:42>> Well, okay. Earlier you said you didn't
1:31:43know anyone at all and then I mentioned
1:31:46you said you don't know who was in the
1:31:48car with you. They were Nick's friends.
1:31:50And then when I mentioned sunson,
1:31:53you admit saying that he was in the car
1:31:55with y'all after you said he wasn't.
1:32:00>> So I mean he [snorts] was in the car
1:32:02with y'all. Correct. Sansa.
1:32:05>> And you said you don't want to throw
1:32:06them under the bus.
1:32:08>> Oh boy.
1:32:09>> You know, and it's easy to not throw
1:32:11somebody under the bus if you truly
1:32:12don't know who they are, right?
1:32:14>> Yeah.
1:32:14>> But if you know who they are, it's a lot
1:32:16easier to throw them under the bus,
1:32:17right?
1:32:19They clearly know who you are,
1:32:22>> right?
1:32:23>> So then when we go and talk with them,
1:32:25they're probably going to say, "Yeah,
1:32:27Glenn's like a Draco."
1:32:31>> And if that's not true, that's that's
1:32:33fine. But you got to you got to help me.
1:32:35You got to because really the the fact
1:32:37of the matter is that that's that's the
1:32:40angle that they're going to take. That's
1:32:42the angle that they're going to paint of
1:32:43you.
1:32:44>> They're going to look for the easiest
1:32:45way out. You're protecting them.
1:32:48at the moment.
1:32:50>> No. Then why is it that you can't say
1:32:54who they are?
1:32:57>> Huh?
1:32:59I can, but I can't. Like, I don't know
1:33:02who they is. Like, I don't know.
1:33:05>> But you know what they look like, right?
1:33:09Okay. Then, can you describe Lil D to
1:33:12me?
1:33:13Can you do that?
1:33:14>> Dreads.
1:33:15>> Dreads. Are they just regular black
1:33:19dreads or are they colored?
1:33:21>> Regular black dreads.
1:33:22>> How long are they?
1:33:27>> Shoulder length or neck length?
1:33:29>> Chin.
1:33:30>> Chin length.
1:33:31>> All right.
1:33:32>> Okay.
1:33:35Are they thick
1:33:38or are they thin ones?
1:33:40>> Like a little bigger.
1:33:42>> A little bit thicker than yours.
1:33:45Right on my chest.
1:33:47>> Yeah.
1:33:47>> I don't like small.
1:33:50>> Okay. About how tall is little D?
1:33:56>> Mhm. A little like about my size.
1:34:00>> About your size,
1:34:02>> huh?
1:34:03>> Yeah. A little smaller. Probably
1:34:05>> skinnier or shorter.
1:34:06>> Shorter. So, how about how tall?
1:34:15Well, how tall are you? You're like
1:34:16what? 6'2.
1:34:18>> I see four lb.
1:34:20>> Okay. So then how tall would he be?
1:34:25Let me see.
1:34:26>> Where does he stand up on you?
1:34:34>> There. Okay. And you're 61 to 6'2?
1:34:39Yes.
1:34:47I see him, man. He's crazy, bro.
1:34:52I
1:34:53>> mean, it is crazy, but you got to
1:34:54[sighs] you got to kind of look at it
1:34:55from our position, right?
1:34:58>> But if you were sitting in this chair,
1:35:00would you believe that?
1:35:04>> I don't know.
1:35:06He said he's 5 in [clears throat]
1:35:08shorter than you. And if you were
1:35:11sitting in a jury box, would you believe
1:35:13the guy?
1:35:18And so that's what I'm saying that
1:35:20you're
1:35:22why I think that you're if you can
1:35:24recognize
1:35:25that you wouldn't be believed.
1:35:28>> How can I prove that? How can I prove it
1:35:31though?
1:35:31>> By telling the truth.
1:35:32>> I mean,
1:35:33>> I am telling the truth.
1:35:35>> I am.
1:35:36>> You know where these guys live
1:35:37>> at this point?
1:35:39Well, I mean, or maybe explain this. Why
1:35:41would why would you say you don't want
1:35:42to throw somebody under the bus when if
1:35:46you don't really know what their name
1:35:47is?
1:35:48>> I don't just f the best.
1:35:51>> But it's really not throwing somebody
1:35:54under the bus if if you don't know who
1:35:57did it, right?
1:35:58>> I ain't saying I don't know them like
1:36:00that.
1:36:02>> You know where they live?
1:36:05>> Especially where they live. I don't
1:36:07know.
1:36:09GPI.
1:36:10>> What were they wearing that night?
1:36:12>> I mean, you got to you got to help us
1:36:14somehow there.
1:36:22>> [ __ ]
1:36:23>> Lil D said
1:36:24>> pants, bro.
1:36:25>> You said he had a hoodie on.
1:36:28>> Lil D.
1:36:29>> Sweet pants.
1:36:35>> Man,
1:36:36>> what about the other guy? What would his
1:36:37hair look like?
1:36:43>> The other guy had dreads, too. How long
1:36:45were they?
1:36:48>> Not that long. Were they similar to
1:36:50yours? Yours are twists, right?
1:36:52>> Mhm.
1:36:53>> So, he would have twists like yours.
1:36:55>> A little longer.
1:36:56>> A little longer.
1:36:57>> A little longer.
1:36:58>> Goes down to about his ears. Like past
1:37:00his ears.
1:37:03>> Yeah.
1:37:06And you said that's sun, right?
1:37:09>> No.
1:37:12>> Well, I mean, this is kind of important
1:37:13cuz
1:37:14>> I mean, we need to know whether or not
1:37:16it is.
1:37:18>> Say,
1:37:20>> well, we're talking about what you know,
1:37:21not
1:37:25>> Yeah. We're not We're not here to hear
1:37:27you confirm what Nick has said
1:37:30>> because that's not fair to sunson if
1:37:32>> Nick's already given his statement. If
1:37:33Nick is lying, right?
1:37:35>> And we don't want to drag someone in
1:37:37here that shouldn't be in here, right?
1:37:38>> Yeah.
1:37:39>> Right.
1:37:39>> So, but who was it then other than Lil D
1:37:43in that car? Who was it?
1:37:46>> What's their name?
1:37:50You're nodding your head.
1:37:52>> Son,
1:37:57right?
1:38:00I I mean, are you being honest or
1:38:04>> I need to know that?
1:38:05>> Because I I'll tell you because
1:38:06>> I can't write just a bunch of lies in my
1:38:08report.
1:38:08>> Yeah, I know.
1:38:10>> And it that's actually probably the
1:38:12worst thing if you know it's not
1:38:14something son and you know
1:38:16>> Yeah.
1:38:18>> So
1:38:18>> that's what I'm saying. I don't you know
1:38:22>> I mean cuz we don't want to wrap someone
1:38:23up in this that isn't isn't at all
1:38:26involved. Right.
1:38:27>> Yeah. Right.
1:38:28>> Okay. cuz that that's the last thing we
1:38:30want to do.
1:38:31>> All right.
1:38:32>> So, you said Sunson had dreads,
1:38:36correct?
1:38:37>> That went past his ears.
1:38:41>> What was he wearing?
1:38:51>> Okay. Um,
1:38:55that helped all
1:38:58Following the interrogation, the
1:39:00investigation continued [music] and
1:39:02Glendarius Tate was formally indicted
1:39:04along with Anthony Brown, Cedric
1:39:06Faustst, and Jaden Appling. [music]
1:39:09Prosecutors charged Tate with felony
1:39:11murder, five counts of aggravated
1:39:13assault, gang related offenses, [music]
1:39:15criminal damage to property, and
1:39:17possession of a firearm during the
1:39:18commission of a felony. The case also
1:39:21involved an unusual [music] issue of
1:39:23legal causation. Investigators
1:39:25determined that the bullet that fatally
1:39:27struck Giovanni McDavid was not fired by
1:39:30Tate or his [music] codefendants.
1:39:32Instead, during the exchange of gunfire,
1:39:35someone inside McDavid's own vehicle,
1:39:37accidentally [music] discharged a
1:39:38weapon, and struck him. Prosecutors
1:39:41argued that because Tate and the others
1:39:43initiated the shooting, they were still
1:39:44legally responsible for the death under
1:39:46Georgia's felony murder law.
1:39:48>> [music]
1:39:49>> On September 16th, 2024, Tate, Brown,
1:39:52and Faustst entered negotiated guilty p.
1:39:55Tate pleaded guilty to voluntary
1:39:57manslaughter, [music] five counts of
1:39:59aggravated assault, two gang act
1:40:01violations, criminal damage to property,
1:40:04and possession of a firearm during the
1:40:05commission of a felony. [music]
1:40:07Tate was sentenced to 35 years with 25
1:40:10years to be served in state prison,
1:40:11[music] and 10 years on strict
1:40:13probation. Brown and Faustst received
1:40:16the same sentence. Appling later pleaded
1:40:18guilty and received [music] 35 years
1:40:20with 20 years in prison followed by 15
1:40:22years of probation. If you found this
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