Fyre Festival's Billy McFarland on Untold Stories About Jail, Partying with Models and Scamming! — Transcript
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- 0:35[Applause]
- 0:36[Music]
- 0:37[Applause]
- 0:54I flew New York just to talk to you
- 0:57let's talk
- 0:58yeah
- 1:09oh you're wait yeah okay you're right
- 1:11we'll deal with that later I have your
- 1:13watch but I know let's talk about
- 1:15anything if I piss you off I'm not gonna
- 1:17get it back no no I haven't watched for
- 1:19a month bro well it wasn't planned it
- 1:21wasn't by plan just sitting in my bag I
- 1:23got you 100 but more importantly let's
- 1:25talk about you
- 1:26let's talk about me what's going on in
- 1:28your life right now man
- 1:29[ __ ] nah
- 1:31you know living living the dream living
- 1:33living the dream really it's a real
- 1:35dread
- 1:36traveling happy Dad happy Dad baby let's
- 1:39go
- 1:40yo you're so stupid I want to roast you
- 1:43so bad all the time nah I'm done with it
- 1:46I'm done with it honestly I got my first
- 1:47dub too last week I don't know if you
- 1:49heard you got your first dub yeah on
- 1:51what the Sophia video you actually got a
- 1:53duh I got a dub all the comments first
- 1:55time in life first time he's ever gonna
- 1:57dub very Ultra uncommon rare dub
- 2:00extremely 22k likes yeah it never will
- 2:04happen again now he's got to tell you
- 2:05taking catching dubs is way better than
- 2:07catching else I don't know man because
- 2:08like elves kind of fits you I know
- 2:10that's a problem I know I don't I can't
- 2:13take else anymore nobody I think a part
- 2:15of like that you've taken so many L's
- 2:17makes the the W's just maybe feel a
- 2:20little bit better bro it's insane
- 2:21because if you got a ton of Dubs all the
- 2:23time it's just like it also wouldn't be
- 2:24another week easy maybe daily probably
- 2:27like two two or three a day I mean dude
- 2:30you'd say some [ __ ] that we'd cut out of
- 2:32this podcast because like you were like
- 2:33bro please don't put that in like that I
- 2:35[ __ ] up yeah wait what was the one
- 2:36thing I took out oh yeah yeah
- 2:39thank God you really took that out huh
- 2:41yes can we please run that clip no that
- 2:44was the two or three days of depression
- 2:45from seeing what people said about that
- 2:47yeah you would have they would have
- 2:49funny bro but I would take a huge
- 2:52massive out for that that would have
- 2:53been one of the biggest sales you've
- 2:54ever taken it would have got clipped
- 2:55seriously I'm not even playing it would
- 2:57have been clipped God millions of views
- 2:59which would have been funny though like
- 3:01on Tick Tock it would have went viral
- 3:02guaranteed it was one of the funniest
- 3:04things I've ever that's why I want to
- 3:05post the Drake thing but I'm not gonna
- 3:06post it because I'm gonna get roasted
- 3:07why not
- 3:08so I'm going to get roasted for that who
- 3:10cares
- 3:11it's kind of part of your character it's
- 3:13funny man I know it's my favorite that's
- 3:14my favorite it's drone right now too so
- 3:16we're interviewing
- 3:17McFarland mcfarley right yeah what the
- 3:20[ __ ] Kyle I'm going to bed after this
- 3:22straight up I literally flew in I'm
- 3:25tired I didn't sleep at all last night I
- 3:26flew straight in for this I thought we
- 3:27were doing a different pod be honest
- 3:30today I thought it was a different pot
- 3:33well you're you being the best in the
- 3:35game I'm sure yeah everything literally
- 3:37off top I'm sure you can oh is that this
- 3:40is like you trying to flex this right
- 3:42now this is like 100 until 15 minutes
- 3:43ago obviously I'm still gonna crush it I
- 3:46text you I was talking about the power
- 3:47we're gonna do and I was like Oh I
- 3:49thought it was you know the other guy
- 3:50that we had talked about and then you
- 3:52guys just put it on me last minute I was
- 3:54like man what do you know about this
- 3:55dude
- 3:56uh uh I mean it's a quick quick Google
- 3:58search uh he's a con artist apparently
- 4:01so that's what they say that's what they
- 4:03say I want to ask him about it the media
- 4:05controls a narrative though you know
- 4:06that yeah which isn't yeah a little
- 4:07interesting it'd be cool to get a
- 4:09different perspective on the whole thing
- 4:10for sure but I mean we do know that it
- 4:12like it did end terribly
- 4:20yeah it's conviction so
- 4:23but I'm excited to hear about it for
- 4:25sure what's new with you anything
- 4:28complicated my life a little bit you
- 4:30know aren't you opening another gym yeah
- 4:31we are we're opening the gym
- 4:33um in Encino havenhurst and Ventura
- 4:35it'll be open in the next can be open
- 4:37the next three weeks but we're probably
- 4:38gonna do like a grand opening sometime
- 4:40like mid to late December you know like
- 4:42a New Year's thing January
- 4:44I'm excited about that is that closer to
- 4:46your crib a little further away from the
- 4:48crib but closer to like everyone else
- 4:49like in the in the the rest of the
- 4:51valley and also like South County so
- 4:53people get there faster from the 405.
- 4:59can you drink caffeine like that and go
- 5:01to bed no I'll be up all night
- 5:03but why are you doing it because I need
- 5:05to perform just perform dude
- 5:08I do have willpower but I'm tired and it
- 5:11will make it a lot easier if I just
- 5:12drink some of that yeah but then you
- 5:14won't sleep it's gonna be up all night
- 5:16huh you want to hang out no why we're
- 5:19just gonna make it worse every time what
- 5:21floor are you on dude don't worry about
- 5:22what Flora
- 5:24come on hang out you'll be like Brad
- 5:26Brad are you up yeah you'd be that guy
- 5:29we're just talking about Jake what's
- 5:30wrong with that that's what [ __ ]
- 5:31friends do bro they hang out yeah well
- 5:33not when I'm [ __ ] asleep and you're
- 5:35[ __ ] wired on caffeine you're trying
- 5:38to pillow talk with me apparently it's
- 5:40something you do with your boys no I
- 5:41mean if I share a room with somebody on
- 5:43a trip then yeah we're the guy you are
- 5:45the guy in the car you were saying Jacob
- 5:47was you're the guy that's like hey hey
- 5:48Brad are you up are you up right Brad
- 5:51proud of you I would do that trolling
- 5:53purposes
- 5:54sincerely because like you'd have some
- 5:56sort of Heartache that you want to talk
- 5:57about in Illinois and honestly I respect
- 5:59what's wrong with the hearts are like
- 6:00that dude nothing nothing I respect it I
- 6:03know how it feels I do it all the time
- 6:04with Jacob
- 6:06heart to Hearts where I'm like
- 6:08complaining about my life and [ __ ]
- 6:09you know is Jacob your go-to guy for
- 6:11that do you have a go-to person for that
- 6:13well long story short not anymore not
- 6:17right now yeah
- 6:18at least you had somebody yeah I only
- 6:21got that yeah
- 6:25let's go
- 6:27oh my God you think you're lack of an
- 6:29actor like could you do could you do
- 6:30fake could you do Tears On Demand uh I
- 6:33could think about some stuff that would
- 6:34make me emotional yeah on demand but
- 6:37I've never done that for the content no
- 6:39no I normally just do it because like
- 6:41I'm just actually emotional
- 6:50look who it is looks good
- 6:56you watch it there's a lot of people
- 6:58here you fired up
- 7:00dude I'm just like I honestly I look at
- 7:03all these people I'm like are we rolling
- 7:04yeah what's I think we're rolling where
- 7:05are we I don't even know where I don't
- 7:07know Studio we're here though I just
- 7:10wonder if they're getting paid or if
- 7:11it's like huh all these people oh yeah
- 7:13whatever I don't go [ __ ] what's good I
- 7:15just watch these I just watched the
- 7:16documentary on the way here it's lit
- 7:18I've never seen it before
- 7:21I've heard about it but this is the
- 7:23first time you've actually got like all
- 7:24the details on it or what no I mean I
- 7:26heard about it in the news and [ __ ] but
- 7:28I for some reason I don't know I just
- 7:29never got around to watching it bro you
- 7:32low-key would have thrown up a feeder if
- 7:33the bag was right what you would have
- 7:35thrown up before promoting the event
- 7:37yeah if the bag was right what the who
- 7:39got it oh Kendall got a big bag right
- 7:40what's up bro how are you
- 7:43just go we just go for it yeah you just
- 7:45jump in yeah [ __ ] it what's up good to
- 7:48meet you yes sir so where where where
- 7:51are we right now is this where in New
- 7:54York wow where in New York where no like
- 7:56what is this studio this is obviously a
- 7:59nice one that's my friend's Studio oh
- 8:00okay sweet yeah he's super nice to host
- 8:02us oh yeah thank you guys you can pull
- 8:04that out guys like literally first time
- 8:06trying a podcast since
- 8:09attempting one miserably in jail and
- 8:11going to solitary for seven months so
- 8:12yeah yeah so this is your first podcast
- 8:15no you did that dude like I've been
- 8:18trying to do a podcast for five years so
- 8:21I hope I have some time today because
- 8:22holy [ __ ] okay thanks for choosing
- 8:25full-time podcasts this is pretty
- 8:26[ __ ] you gotta tell us about the one
- 8:27from jail literally went from solitary
- 8:29confinement podcast to my favorite in
- 8:32the world so literally I just don't
- 8:34believe I'm here so seriously thank you
- 8:36guys like super super cool yeah huge
- 8:38fans what was that one called the one
- 8:40that you were doing
- 8:41wow so we have these pay phones and we
- 8:44got these 15-minute phone calls
- 8:46but you had to wait 30 minutes between
- 8:48each call
- 8:49so I had this podcast host essentially
- 8:51fly to my buddy's house and I was
- 8:53calling in all day
- 8:55we released a trailer on my Instagram I
- 8:57have like zero followers like literally
- 8:59and an hour after the trailer comes out
- 9:01they take me out of my cell and put me
- 9:03in solitary confinement for seven months
- 9:05because seven months because you're
- 9:07doing the podcast because I tried to do
- 9:09a podcast so did you get I thought you
- 9:11completed an episode or a few right uh I
- 9:13think they launched one episode from
- 9:14solitary but I had no idea what was
- 9:16going on and didn't you know you were
- 9:18gonna get caught though like once it got
- 9:20out like I was so stupid like
- 9:24what was the podcast about so I was
- 9:27trying to tell like the past stories got
- 9:29it and I felt like hey I could make a
- 9:31couple dollars pay some restitution from
- 9:32jail like no one pays restitution get to
- 9:36work on the rest of the team yeah I
- 9:38think that shit's a lot of [ __ ] weird
- 9:39yeah it's gonna take me away why not
- 9:42start now what was solitary confinement
- 9:45like did brutal so first of all it's
- 9:48like this long concrete hallway of these
- 9:51nine by eight cells so I'm all alone to
- 9:53myself and a lawyer starts complaining
- 9:55after a few weeks of being alone he's
- 9:57like all right McFarland you want a
- 9:58selly yeah yeah no problem I hear these
- 10:01guys screaming their metal doors oh you
- 10:03got bags you got bags so I have no idea
- 10:06who bags is this guy comes in he's like
- 10:08hey I'm bags they call me bags because
- 10:10they got a lot of money I hear all these
- 10:12guys screaming that's not true that's
- 10:13not true so the guy got into a shootout
- 10:16with the cops and lost his colon but
- 10:18they never gave him like the Cullen
- 10:20backs it's like this is literally my bed
- 10:22and that's a toilet he has to [ __ ] every
- 10:2430 minutes around the clock but so it's
- 10:26not solitary so you're not by yourself
- 10:28so you did I did half the time by myself
- 10:30and half the time with a cell mate but
- 10:31you can't leave yourself so this guy's
- 10:33literally taking a [ __ ] every 30 minutes
- 10:34for like two months Around the Clock
- 10:36just right next to him where I'm
- 10:37slipping holy [ __ ] you never get any
- 10:40daylight at all that's what solitary is
- 10:41due to covid they let us go to a cage
- 10:44outside that was you know the size of
- 10:46this set for one hour once a week so for
- 10:48six days you couldn't leave and you did
- 10:50all seven months seven months yeah
- 10:52straight out what does that like what
- 10:54what does that do to your mind that's
- 10:56like a scary [ __ ]
- 10:57like I think the worst part how do you
- 11:00get through that yeah just like not
- 11:01knowing when it was going to end yeah
- 11:03and like the cops would [ __ ] with you
- 11:04it's like how long am I gonna be here
- 11:06like oh you're never getting out of here
- 11:07McFarland like [ __ ] you so it's like
- 11:09like the mental mind [ __ ] and you just
- 11:11start thinking the whole world is
- 11:13against you and I have nothing but like
- 11:16I would have bet almost every single one
- 11:18of those days that I wasn't getting out
- 11:19because like you have no one to bounce
- 11:21your ideas off of right so like you
- 11:22start just going crazy yeah so yeah
- 11:24being here well so we're [ __ ] wild
- 11:26what'd you do while you were in there I
- 11:28wrote you know learn to meditate read a
- 11:30lot and dude this guy [ __ ] every 30
- 11:33minutes yeah and like we tried to put
- 11:35together a game plan for what they want
- 11:36to do yep dodging uh dodging bags shout
- 11:39out to bags he's a great guy but so his
- 11:41bags still locked up all right back's
- 11:43got out surely before me so I hope he's
- 11:45doing well he's probably [ __ ] right
- 11:47now I hope he's watching especially
- 11:48right now
- 11:50so we gotta we obviously we gotta take
- 11:52it back to you know everything that I
- 11:53kind of had happened for sure but guys
- 11:55can I try happy Dad by the way yeah yeah
- 11:56absolutely what uh what what is it like
- 11:59when you're you know that you're Googled
- 12:01and the first thing that comes up it
- 12:02says you're a con artist
- 12:05what is that like because how do you do
- 12:06business and how do you move forward and
- 12:08yeah you know like how would you create
- 12:09a deal with someone now where it's like
- 12:11they know your past they know your
- 12:13history which we'll get into I'm
- 12:14assuming I'm sure I guess goes on but
- 12:16that right away I'm like you know if I
- 12:18was gonna do business with you or do
- 12:19anything with you on Google and it's
- 12:20like oh this guy's a con artist you know
- 12:23so it's I've literally been out for just
- 12:25over two months August 30th yeah it's
- 12:28like my completion of my sentence damn
- 12:31yeah so
- 12:32I was sheltered in so many ways right
- 12:34because I was in jail for just around
- 12:37four years
- 12:38a lot of that in solitary a lot of that
- 12:40with no box to a phone or any like
- 12:41outside communication so I never saw
- 12:44these documentaries like I wasn't on
- 12:45Google and I talked to friends and
- 12:48they're like dude it's going to take you
- 12:51longer and people longer to like come to
- 12:52terms with what happened and I'm like
- 12:54trying to recognize it I had five years
- 12:56like since all this went to [ __ ] to like
- 12:59feel my own remorse but I just missed
- 13:02like this whole Title Wave of [ __ ]
- 13:04like I wasn't there to read the DMS And
- 13:06The Angry emails right and like friends
- 13:07and family were so that's been like a
- 13:09big eye-opener to me I'm like oh I'm
- 13:11gonna walk out and people are gonna
- 13:12remember like I can program and I can
- 13:13market so I'm gonna do something cool
- 13:15but it's like oh wait I missed years and
- 13:18years of just backlash yeah
- 13:21so what is it like getting that backlash
- 13:22now
- 13:23like how do you move forward are you
- 13:25meant does it mentally [ __ ] you up or
- 13:26are you just like
- 13:28I mean in some respect it's like super
- 13:29super motivating yeah and I think that
- 13:32just meeting with childhood friends like
- 13:34since getting out of jail has been the
- 13:36biggest mind [ __ ]
- 13:38I think in like some respects
- 13:40even people who I was close with were
- 13:43almost like happy to see the punishment
- 13:46I had to go through because they're like
- 13:48hey we did everything right we didn't
- 13:49break the rules we went to college like
- 13:51we didn't [ __ ] up and like why did you
- 13:53why were you able to do this kind of
- 13:54thing and we weren't because they were
- 13:55almost like happy to see me down and a
- 13:57lot of the advice I get from those
- 13:58people is like dude you just can't do
- 14:00anything and it's like they try to
- 14:02assign you took the most menial tasks
- 14:05whereas you talk to more like
- 14:06entrepreneurial people and it's like if
- 14:08you just go for it but go for it
- 14:09honestly there's no shame so if you fail
- 14:12the next time but you do it like
- 14:13ethically right and you don't let
- 14:15anybody you don't hurt anybody like
- 14:16[ __ ] go and do it yeah it takes me
- 14:18like this weird like trying to
- 14:20understand like people's motivations and
- 14:22realizing that very few people out there
- 14:24can like give you advice that's best for
- 14:26you like they give you advice that is
- 14:27best for them what they think is
- 14:30possible like very few people even the
- 14:32ones who love you are often like the
- 14:33most restrained at least in my
- 14:35perspective in terms of giving you good
- 14:37advice did a lot of people cut ties with
- 14:39you for sure and the weirdest thing is
- 14:42like who did and who didn't and so many
- 14:44who I thought would like be there every
- 14:46day just totally disappear and said [ __ ]
- 14:48off and people who I thought would be
- 14:49the first to run didn't so once again
- 14:51like
- 14:52total crazy learning experience when did
- 14:54you watch so you said you didn't see the
- 14:55documentary when did you actually see it
- 14:57I never watched them you've never seen
- 14:59it no I just watched it for the first
- 15:00time oh really on the way how bad I mean
- 15:03I don't know it's pretty entertaining
- 15:04okay well aren't you curious to see like
- 15:05you lost some weight you look good yeah
- 15:07that was so fat oh it was bad you did
- 15:09lose weight don't you want to see like
- 15:11maybe what you think is inaccurate in
- 15:12there yeah so I think like when they
- 15:14came out I was really early on in my
- 15:17sentence and my initial reaction would
- 15:19have been like oh that's not true that's
- 15:20true and like I don't want to be in that
- 15:22mindset where I just couldn't do
- 15:24anything about it so I just like try to
- 15:26protect myself whether right or wrong I
- 15:27think that was my initial response I
- 15:30mean you're having a good time in there
- 15:31yeah like you're partying you're with
- 15:33models and you're in a jet ski a lot on
- 15:35a yacht yeah I guess like in your words
- 15:37what really happened what really went
- 15:39wrong so like if you can take it back a
- 15:41little bit Yeah I think that would be
- 15:42yeah so yeah what made you want to like
- 15:45do that so I started just like
- 15:48programming when I was really young I
- 15:50was like 9 or 10 years old
- 15:51and I almost like viewed it as this
- 15:53world with very little rules and I kept
- 15:57saying like hey there's this huge
- 15:58problem and if I keep trying to push
- 16:00this problem I can push like what was
- 16:01possible
- 16:02start a couple companies in middle
- 16:04school and high school sold them went to
- 16:07college and basically ran out of the
- 16:09cash that I got from selling my early
- 16:10companies my first semester of college
- 16:12I'm like [ __ ] wait you said you sold a
- 16:14company in middle school yeah started my
- 16:16first company in seventh grade sold it
- 16:18and then you sell it in seventh grade so
- 16:21I had a company called your hot site
- 16:22it's a funny story I tried to create
- 16:24like a private social network for middle
- 16:26schools
- 16:27so I did it from middle school and five
- 16:29days after it launched had like you know
- 16:30just like the local Middle School
- 16:31buzzing the principal basically called
- 16:33and it's like internet's unsafe you got
- 16:35to get rid of this website so I went and
- 16:37put it up for auction online sold the
- 16:40site and years later when I was applying
- 16:41for college it was on my resume and like
- 16:43the dean of the school was applying for
- 16:45pulls it up on his computer and had been
- 16:47sold a couple times since then it became
- 16:48like this porn site like this porn
- 16:49social networking site what did you sell
- 16:51it for originally so it wasn't much that
- 16:53was a couple thousand dollars but there
- 16:54were some there were some settings
- 16:59at that point yeah so that was fun and
- 17:03just started getting bigger and bigger
- 17:04and then basically went to college with
- 17:06you know a couple dollars in a suitcase
- 17:07and just like went wild and just didn't
- 17:10know like what I could do with with
- 17:11money right and blew all of it in the
- 17:13first semester it's like [ __ ] I gotta
- 17:15get back to programming and that started
- 17:17you know this eight year run of what
- 17:19would eventually become fire in prison
- 17:21and then being here
- 17:23wait price okay I'm just picturing you
- 17:25rocking like a Louis Vuitton backpack I
- 17:27didn't know what that was you went
- 17:29really far from like Middle School to
- 17:30like college and that's a very long time
- 17:32like what other companies what other
- 17:33involvements did you have that you
- 17:35actually made money from the credit card
- 17:36yeah the credit card so before all that
- 17:38in in high school I guess my biggest win
- 17:40before College was a company called 24
- 17:42scene I love the TV show 24. so I made a
- 17:45Content Network where basically people
- 17:47could like share and discuss their
- 17:48favorite things about 24. ended up like
- 17:51replicating that across like a dozen TV
- 17:52shows and sold to a company called buddy
- 17:55TV out of Seattle I was 15. but I wasn't
- 17:58old enough to like have a bank account
- 17:59and like my PayPal account was shut down
- 18:02because it was underage
- 18:03so I had this like essential middleman
- 18:05partner who took the money and he would
- 18:07Western Union me cash every two weeks so
- 18:09throughout like the last two years of my
- 18:11high school I would like you know go to
- 18:12the hood or go to this Western Union and
- 18:14like get my cash and save it up until
- 18:16college and that really set me off
- 18:19oh damn Hustler from early and then how
- 18:22did you like what started fire so before
- 18:26fire I started a company called magnesis
- 18:28and what I was trying to do was build a
- 18:31black card that was more relevant for
- 18:33young kids in cities I was 22 years old
- 18:36like doing a startup in New York and all
- 18:38the AmEx like travel business perks just
- 18:40like weren't relevant to me yet like I
- 18:42just wasn't there yet in my life
- 18:44so I wanted a black card couldn't get it
- 18:46but I also wanted a black card that was
- 18:48more relevant for me so I went in
- 18:50Alibaba before it was really like
- 18:51mainstream and bought this like sheet of
- 18:54black metal and just bought like a
- 18:55Credit Card Copier literally off Alibaba
- 18:57I was in the office for my first startup
- 18:59I just copied like my shitty blue like
- 19:01Chase debit card with like 80 bucks on
- 19:03it onto this black card went and used at
- 19:06the pizza place across the street and
- 19:07the guy's like behind the counter
- 19:08dropping it looking up in the air like
- 19:10oh this thing's [ __ ] sweet and I was
- 19:12in the second ever we work at the time
- 19:14so I started showing the card off to all
- 19:16the companies in the we work and people
- 19:17wanted to buy it and like magnesis was
- 19:19just born before I knew it I was selling
- 19:21these black cards open up a couple of
- 19:24spaces for members to connect and just
- 19:25started building a company they were
- 19:26just cards that were just based off of
- 19:27existing cards yeah so like the cool
- 19:29part was like we took no Financial Risk
- 19:31and you could have your Amex with
- 19:33whatever your limit on it was or you
- 19:35could have your Chase card with 20 bucks
- 19:36just visually look cooler too right what
- 19:39we got perks too so we had a physical
- 19:40space in New York where people can come
- 19:43and like hang out and like get together
- 19:44work parties then we partner with a lot
- 19:47of venues and Brands so like a venue
- 19:49would come to us and say hey we'd love
- 19:50to host your members for you know a
- 19:52nightclub night a concert you know a
- 19:54fitness class whatever they would pay us
- 19:56we would get a cool experience and
- 19:57Market to our customers
- 20:01and that was your that was your more
- 20:02successful business yeah so Magnus was
- 20:04going like magnesis did real Revenue at
- 20:06the time and fire like slowly came out
- 20:10of magnesis and it really started from
- 20:12two ways one I got a call from one of
- 20:15our people who was working at the
- 20:16townhouse and she's like hey this guy's
- 20:18here he works at townhouse it was like I
- 20:20remember sorry it was like our member
- 20:21space for magnesis okay she's like this
- 20:23guy's here he works at Google he says he
- 20:25flies planes and I kind of believe him
- 20:27like you got to come by so went and met
- 20:29this guy and you know still friends this
- 20:31day like the smartest guy I've ever met
- 20:33he's like yeah I had this little
- 20:35four-seater airplane and got like six
- 20:37buddies to do too uh we do trips to like
- 20:39random Caribbean islands like you should
- 20:40totally do it for your members
- 20:42so I'm like oh so this is where the idea
- 20:44this is where it all started so I'm like
- 20:45[ __ ] it let's go like this is amazing
- 20:46I've never been on a four-seater
- 20:47airplane before and we just take this
- 20:49Caravan of four planes like a dozen of
- 20:52our magnesis customers and a couple of
- 20:53my friends and we start finding these
- 20:55islands that like I didn't know existed
- 20:57yeah and couldn't have found on the map
- 20:59like this is so [ __ ] cool it's like
- 21:02love the adventure of like Landing in a
- 21:04country in the middle of nowhere it's
- 21:06like making it our playground
- 21:07and so many of the people we were
- 21:09bringing were just like getting together
- 21:10like forming businesses like creating
- 21:12new relationships and just really
- 21:14bonding over these adventures and
- 21:15experiences what were you going and
- 21:17doing there at that point like you guys
- 21:18were just going to the islands and
- 21:19chilling island hopping boating around
- 21:21scuba diving freediving snorkeling it's
- 21:23like you know more like adventury like
- 21:25outdoorsy [ __ ] but I don't know what I
- 21:26was doing so it's more just like hey how
- 21:28can we just push the limits and and see
- 21:30what we can get away with and so how'd
- 21:31you how'd you meet Ja Rule
- 21:33so as a way to get back to uh a lot of
- 21:36the magnesis members we started booking
- 21:38music artists for concerts yeah and just
- 21:40like I'm sure you guys have way way more
- 21:42experience but just realized how
- 21:43backwards the entire industry was I
- 21:45would just be going through so many
- 21:47middlemen who were promising me like
- 21:48artist X for X dollars and it was all it
- 21:51was all a facade you know you go through
- 21:53six guys who claim to be the manager but
- 21:55they might know someone who doesn't
- 21:56really know someone it was like this
- 21:58terrible like really backwards business
- 22:00so I'm like [ __ ] I can make this [ __ ]
- 22:02super transparent let me just make an
- 22:04app and I can have artists get a
- 22:06notification on their phone for real
- 22:07offers and just like say yes or no that
- 22:09was how fire was kind of fun we're
- 22:11artists like on board for that yeah like
- 22:13wait if you entered artists on fire
- 22:16um a few other artists they were not
- 22:17exclusive so they had regular like
- 22:18record labels or agencies or whatever we
- 22:20were just like incremental income to it
- 22:22and we had a dozen artists that were
- 22:24exclusive to fire which basically meant
- 22:26that if you called one of these artists
- 22:27in theory they were supposed to send you
- 22:29through our app to book them
- 22:31and did that ever happen yeah so the
- 22:33fire app was going for like six months
- 22:35and my biggest problem was like I just
- 22:37couldn't get away from the Bahamas I
- 22:39loved it and I kept doing these magnesis
- 22:41member trips and started bringing some
- 22:43of fires artists and I had a high school
- 22:45friend with me there one weekend and
- 22:47he's like dude No One Believes it you're
- 22:49doing this like this is incredible and
- 22:51we said that the best way to invite
- 22:52everybody would be to do a festival so
- 22:54the world's worst idea yeah all this
- 22:57came from like almost like this
- 22:59insecurity to prove that I was actually
- 23:01here on this island with nobody and I
- 23:03just wanted to share that with the world
- 23:04so what were the first steps when you're
- 23:06like yo I'm gonna have this music
- 23:07festival here yeah what did you go do
- 23:09initially like how did that start so
- 23:12like just like maybe the time I was 24
- 23:14and I knew how to build websites so it's
- 23:16like I can build a website in a week if
- 23:18it doesn't work no one cares right like
- 23:20the idea flops and no one gets hurt so I
- 23:22applied that same like Tech logic to
- 23:25trying to build a city in the middle of
- 23:27nowhere and it was just so stupid it
- 23:29just didn't work yeah because you're
- 23:30involving people it obviously makes it
- 23:31much better situation I just I just
- 23:33didn't know how to like extrapolate like
- 23:35okay a website the user can't log in no
- 23:37one's hurt whereas like hey now I'm
- 23:39trying to house thousands of people in
- 23:41the middle of nowhere for three or four
- 23:43days it's different different so like I
- 23:44said earlier what do you think the
- 23:45biggest issue was like in your
- 23:46perspective just like the logistics of
- 23:49it so we'll get into it but like yeah
- 23:50I've certainly like I'd lie to investors
- 23:53to get money and like morally ethically
- 23:54as a human like totally the most [ __ ]
- 23:57up part yeah but the worst like business
- 24:00decision was time yeah I was like what
- 24:02the [ __ ] bro I can make that so quick I
- 24:04don't know what I was thinking what was
- 24:05the time was the time it was months yeah
- 24:07we launched like a trailer to see if
- 24:09anybody would care and like it kind of
- 24:11worked and I'm like all right in four
- 24:12months we're doing this [ __ ] why did you
- 24:15do that four months and they're like
- 24:16dude like it takes longer than that to
- 24:17drills that's like pretty impossible
- 24:21right yeah totally
- 24:23did you have anyone at the time who was
- 24:25like yo this you shouldn't do this like
- 24:27you shouldn't move this fast or like
- 24:29it's not going to work this way like was
- 24:30there anyone trying to like speak logic
- 24:32in that sense for sure but I was kind of
- 24:34caught up in this mindset that like we
- 24:36have to go really fast and the downside
- 24:38is there's great artists and a beautiful
- 24:40location but it's not perfect and it
- 24:42didn't comprehend the downside is that
- 24:45people can't stay there it's just like
- 24:47not ready I just like didn't understand
- 24:48the downside and it's terrible how many
- 24:51people was meant were meant to go and
- 24:53attend in the beginning so the festival
- 24:56is supposed to host 3 000 people per
- 24:58weekend and there were two weekends I
- 25:00made anywhere from two person to eight
- 25:01person tents
- 25:03and then when did The Villas come in
- 25:05because those didn't exist did they
- 25:07there were Villas and like I guess like
- 25:10this is kind of why I didn't watch
- 25:11documentaries I guess like dude I made
- 25:13so many mistakes but we literally like
- 25:15hired this former Navy SEAL guy to like
- 25:18take a map of the island and all the
- 25:19neighboring islands like Mark It Up by
- 25:22quadrant and he went out with a team of
- 25:24like a photographer like a money guy and
- 25:26him and he would go house to house offer
- 25:28to send like the local family on
- 25:30vacation for two weeks signed a contract
- 25:32on the spot like took pictures got the
- 25:34keys and we had 200 Villas and we
- 25:37literally had like this cardboard box
- 25:38with a bunch of keys in an Excel
- 25:40document and when the planes were
- 25:42Landing like
- 25:44it sounds crazy the guy with the keys in
- 25:46the village just disappeared
- 25:47so damn was there any idiots that showed
- 25:49up for weekend too yeah because there
- 25:52had to be someone that's a good question
- 25:56oh my God holy [ __ ] how did you assemble
- 26:00like the greatest
- 26:01influencer group of girls of all time
- 26:03yeah yeah that must have been kind of
- 26:05dope yeah who was it
- 26:07rogerkowski Kendall Jenner and I know
- 26:09that no Kendall Jenner wasn't in the
- 26:11shoot list yeah
- 26:13she wasn't on the island for the shoot
- 26:15though but um how was that like with all
- 26:17those chicks was that like the first
- 26:18time you've ever like hung out with like
- 26:19supermodels like that so or were you
- 26:21always like real on like I mean dude
- 26:23what was crazy just how fast things came
- 26:25together like sure we had artists there
- 26:27we would have you know a couple of
- 26:29friends of friends who were there and
- 26:30you know there would be some models or
- 26:32whatever but we went on one of these
- 26:33trips and we're like we need to do the
- 26:35best like campaign of all time so I
- 26:37remember calling IMG like I'm just like
- 26:39in my office back in New York after a
- 26:40great weekend in the Bahamas and I'm
- 26:42like I want Bella Hadid and you know
- 26:44Haley Baldwin and the guy just [ __ ]
- 26:45laughs at me on the phone he's like like
- 26:47you are so stupid like you have no idea
- 26:49what you're talking about so kind of go
- 26:51down the list and just start calling
- 26:52other agencies until one says yes and
- 26:54you know agrees to send a handful of it
- 26:57really good you know really nice great
- 26:59models they went in the trip and they
- 27:01come back to New York the next week just
- 27:02saying like it was the best work trip
- 27:04they've ever had and three weeks later
- 27:06the same people that laughed at me were
- 27:07like calling you know sending girls for
- 27:09casting sending their roster like
- 27:10begging to have their talent come so
- 27:12literally like in a matter of weeks
- 27:14because of this amazing Island went from
- 27:16being like laughed off the phone to we
- 27:18just couldn't handle like the database
- 27:20of talent who wanted to come to the
- 27:21island like we were literally definitely
- 27:23I crushed the marketing people away yeah
- 27:25so I mean marketing was great but like
- 27:26Logistics like before that shoot like
- 27:29were you guys marketing it the whole
- 27:30time were you just like bringing chicks
- 27:31bringing people and like just partying
- 27:34and chitter or like it was super
- 27:36adventurous and like there's something
- 27:38about and and I was so reckless in a way
- 27:40that it's like I will never be again but
- 27:42there's something about fear that just
- 27:44breaks your walls down it breaks people
- 27:46together you just go and do crazy [ __ ]
- 27:48whether it's like what like you go up in
- 27:50the airplane you turn an engine off and
- 27:51so you float around with zero gravity
- 27:53and you're trying to like drink out of
- 27:54your teal a bottle so it's like I don't
- 27:55care if you're Haley Bieber or you know
- 27:57sure whatever guy from the street in New
- 27:59York like you're gonna be best [ __ ]
- 28:01friends as soon as you land like
- 28:02celebrating like life together and this
- 28:04aspect of it's like doing crazy [ __ ]
- 28:06realizing that everything you told you
- 28:09can just do way more it just brings
- 28:10people together just so cool
- 28:12you seem like to push the limits yeah
- 28:14but yeah so what was it like
- 28:15specifically that trip with like the
- 28:17campaign shoot yeah there was like six
- 28:19campaign shoots and this each one kept
- 28:21getting bigger and bigger and it went
- 28:23from like these four tiny airplanes with
- 28:25you know random magnesis members too
- 28:28you know all the stupid [ __ ] and bad
- 28:30decisions like all the crazy Jets and
- 28:31crazy planes and Yachts to you know in
- 28:33the matter of weeks
- 28:34I mean all the girls are probably like
- 28:36who is this guy yeah I mean it's out
- 28:38here yeah it's all this did you try to
- 28:39shoot your shot at any of them or oh
- 28:41something so hard
- 28:43it was every man was bad like literally
- 28:46like going to jail to get laid like did
- 28:50you get any did you pull any I mean like
- 28:52I hope you can respect like you know
- 28:53yeah of course I didn't tell anybody to
- 28:55get out of jail so I'm not gonna you
- 28:56know not gonna write these girls out but
- 28:57uh but it's like I was just trying way
- 29:00too hard and like now I see guys doing
- 29:01that scene was probably going harder
- 29:03yeah
- 29:07but you were gonna say you see now you
- 29:09see guys doing the same thing you're
- 29:11talking about like yeah it's like yeah
- 29:12on social and everywhere else and it's
- 29:14like I can just like see and maybe I'm
- 29:16wrong but like they're not happy you
- 29:18know which guys are you talking about
- 29:19like you can't be the guy subsidizing 80
- 29:21people on a weekend and legitimately
- 29:23having fun yeah it's like never like
- 29:25paying for everyone you're just not
- 29:27having fun like that guy's a loser at
- 29:28the end of the day sure you might like
- 29:29go home to the biggest bank balance but
- 29:31like yeah something's wrong and like I
- 29:33didn't understand that like I thought it
- 29:34was the man and because I could call
- 29:36someone have a yacht there in 20 minutes
- 29:37no I was the biggest [ __ ] loser and
- 29:39it took like really failing to learn
- 29:41that and I just I see that in other
- 29:43people now it's like dude I just know
- 29:44you're not happy
- 29:45it's like you can't get there like that
- 29:47you want to name any of those people
- 29:48sorry you want to name anything no no
- 29:50man I just kind of I'm curious I mean
- 29:52I'm sure you've all experienced that in
- 29:54your life and yeah I'm sure there's
- 29:55plenty of guys who try to you know suck
- 29:57up to you and offer you the world what
- 29:58the [ __ ] pointing at oh yeah why are
- 30:02you pointing at me I'm [ __ ] with you
- 30:03dude what the [ __ ] sorry okay there's
- 30:05levels to the [ __ ] okay sorry Jesus
- 30:08Christ
- 30:08but if you if you look at like you know
- 30:10all the guys who really went crazy hard
- 30:12like they burn out right you can't like
- 30:14you can't be that guy trying to impress
- 30:16the world every weekend you're gonna
- 30:17[ __ ] lose like sure you can impress
- 30:19me this weekend but people are gonna
- 30:20wake up on Monday with their own
- 30:22problems they don't give a [ __ ] that you
- 30:23bought him a [ __ ] plane or a boat and
- 30:25what's gonna happen in six months that
- 30:26guy's dead yeah so I'm curious when you
- 30:29started doing this how did you go about
- 30:30reaching out to artists and how did you
- 30:32get them on board
- 30:33because of magnesis like we had done
- 30:36dozens of concerts like super super
- 30:37small these are like nightclub venues
- 30:39with a couple hundred people yeah so
- 30:41just met you know a lot of like hip-hop
- 30:43artists and managers just through
- 30:45magnesis so that was kind of how I had
- 30:48the first artist for fire got it did
- 30:50they want to see the grounds or like the
- 30:51stage or anything or we were bringing
- 30:53them like oh they were coming out every
- 30:55other weekend for the four months we
- 30:57were running a trip and for the last two
- 30:59months I pretty much lived there so like
- 31:00it was non-stop people were coming and
- 31:02like I could Master the 20-person trip
- 31:05and like give you a great time sure so
- 31:07like you would come be like this is
- 31:08[ __ ] amazing yeah but then 3 000
- 31:10people came and I was a [ __ ] yeah
- 31:13what's what celebrities did any
- 31:15celebrities actually show up so there's
- 31:18been so many stories and you know I've
- 31:19heard so many rumors about this or that
- 31:21there were 30 artists scheduled to
- 31:23perform 28 of the 30 were paid in full
- 31:26neither two were paid for the first
- 31:28weekend not the second weekend so
- 31:29everybody was paid to be there for that
- 31:31first weekend as far as I know one
- 31:34artist canceled before and that was
- 31:35Blink-182 and they were also they were
- 31:37paid for that weekend area uh they were
- 31:39one of the headliners yes but as far as
- 31:41I know everybody else was either there
- 31:42or coming until the festival was
- 31:45canceled
- 31:46who are some of the other big names
- 31:47yachty so uh good music was headlining
- 31:51one night uh major laser disclosure
- 31:53Migos little yachty Rae Sremmurd Migos
- 31:57would have been pissed there
- 32:00I mean it's not their fault like you
- 32:02know we were we were certainly
- 32:03overpaying and I mean look the marketing
- 32:06was great like
- 32:07what artist would say no right we were
- 32:08just giving them a big check the money
- 32:10was good at the time and like who
- 32:12wouldn't want to come to this amazing
- 32:13Island so you can't blame the artist at
- 32:15all what's the biggest lesson this whole
- 32:16thing taught you dude the process
- 32:19and the trust it's like
- 32:21I had this crazy credit system where it
- 32:24took like seven or eight years of me
- 32:26just like getting [ __ ] on and working so
- 32:27hard for people to trust me yeah or I
- 32:29could just call and like get what I
- 32:31needed to try to run a business and all
- 32:33that just got ruined in one night
- 32:35so it's like you can just like work for
- 32:36so long and just didn't [ __ ] matter
- 32:38it's like that's seven years of eating
- 32:39[ __ ] at the end of the day just meant
- 32:41nothing was there any point in that that
- 32:43period where you were starting to be
- 32:44where you were starting to freak out and
- 32:46be like holy [ __ ] this is going to be a
- 32:47miracle like to pull off
- 32:49so dude like life was terrible in like
- 32:52the last couple months leading up to it
- 32:53all the bills were going crazy we spent
- 32:55you know 20-ish million dollars in in
- 32:58four months trying to do this festival
- 32:59and I'd wake up in the morning to like
- 33:01an Excel document saying like here is
- 33:03how much money we need today or else
- 33:05this Festival isn't it canceled so I'd
- 33:07wake up and be like okay I gotta go find
- 33:09three million dollars by 2 pm so we can
- 33:11wire it back out before how are you
- 33:13convincing people to give you all this
- 33:14money so like I think that's the biggest
- 33:16misconception is that like I woke up one
- 33:17day gave some false numbers in a
- 33:19spreadsheet people gave me 20ish million
- 33:22dollars like yes I certainly lied and
- 33:24made that false spreadsheet but it was
- 33:26seven or eight years of these investors
- 33:29seeing me work and building that trust I
- 33:31think that's like the most [ __ ] up
- 33:32thing that I learned is like that's all
- 33:33for for not oh I see so it wasn't like
- 33:37it was just all at one time no it was
- 33:39I've known you for seven years so if I'm
- 33:42telling you like this idea is better and
- 33:44you gave me a million before I need five
- 33:45million now it's much different
- 33:47conversation than like waking up and
- 33:48knocking someone's door and asking for
- 33:50money then why do you think they pressed
- 33:52you so hard for it at the end and why
- 33:53they make it like a real like conviction
- 33:54right because like wouldn't it have been
- 33:56like if they knew you over time then
- 33:57it's like you're taking in most
- 33:59investment opportunities you know you're
- 34:00taking risk but I lied I just didn't
- 34:02have to lie got it no I said we were
- 34:04doing better than we were like dude it's
- 34:06super simple it's like if I have been
- 34:07honest and said look here's what our
- 34:09real numbers are and here's what we need
- 34:10I would have gotten more help I
- 34:12seriously think I would have been able
- 34:13to raise more money without like the
- 34:15[ __ ] numbers yeah that's crazy as it
- 34:17sounds it was like too good to be true
- 34:18right yeah and people were a little
- 34:19weary what's the status of that like do
- 34:21you have to pay that money back or like
- 34:23yeah so I have a question with that 26
- 34:25million in restitution that needs to get
- 34:28paid back to investors and then buy a
- 34:30certain date or no I think it's like you
- 34:32gotta have lifetime for that for the
- 34:33rest of my life right right so how does
- 34:35that work so it's like say if you made a
- 34:36million dollars how much that goes to
- 34:37restitution 100 of it because like how
- 34:39do you even like do your living expenses
- 34:41and you know dude the problem is like so
- 34:43many people are going to be eating off
- 34:45of everything I earn for a very long
- 34:48time whether it's like tax taxes or
- 34:49lawsuits or restitution yeah so it's
- 34:51like it's been two months and I have no
- 34:54idea like what the percentages are going
- 34:56to be yet but it's going to be you know
- 34:58something something
- 35:00yeah I think I saw there was like 100
- 35:03investors out of any of them do are any
- 35:05of them still like supportive or so the
- 35:07craziest [ __ ] thing happened after I
- 35:10did like his first like social media
- 35:11post a couple of weeks ago this one
- 35:14investor was super mad and wrote a
- 35:16letter to the judge at sentencing
- 35:17basically saying anything less than a
- 35:19life sentence will be a tragedy they
- 35:22send me this like glowing DM like trying
- 35:24to hang out and get back together
- 35:27yeah it's like how do you like as a
- 35:30human how am I supposed to like
- 35:32internalize that like I'm sitting there
- 35:33in front of my family and friends this
- 35:35letter is being read The Judd is reading
- 35:37this letter this person is saying this
- 35:39kid needs a life sentence he ruined my
- 35:41family he ruined this and this was years
- 35:42ago years ago and then two weeks ago I
- 35:44post a tick tock video now they're
- 35:46trying to get together it's like this is
- 35:47yours how much time did you actually do
- 35:50because I know you got four years four
- 35:51years do you think that's Justified
- 35:55I think I'm super lucky to have been in
- 35:57New York
- 35:58um you know all like all the big big
- 36:00dogs are in New York these the banks and
- 36:02these hedge funds who are dealing with
- 36:03numbers that I've never seen before are
- 36:04all there I think I'm lucky in terms of
- 36:06where I was and if I was elsewhere it
- 36:08could have been a lot worse why because
- 36:09they're easier on those type of crimes
- 36:10here you're saying I think it's more
- 36:11used to it right and like my dollar
- 36:13figures here aren't going to shock
- 36:15anybody but like if I'm in Minnesota
- 36:17like you know you're the big fish in
- 36:20town but here compared to all the in the
- 36:22mega Banks hedge funds I'm irrelevant so
- 36:25I was lucky to be in New York yeah
- 36:26however dude four years is a lot of time
- 36:28it's like I missed half my 20s right
- 36:30like obviously deserved it but dude you
- 36:32lose 25 through 30 it's like to [ __ ]
- 36:35see if you unfortunately what was jail
- 36:36like oh crazy I read something was Mike
- 36:39The Situation were you guys Boys in
- 36:41there so I was in jail with him you were
- 36:43locked up with situation I swear it's
- 36:44like five for five months Situation's
- 36:46dope this is a bad friend to have in
- 36:48there I'm glad you asked that question I
- 36:49swear I love situation he's so joked oh
- 36:52yeah
- 36:53so we were in jail together for five-ish
- 36:55months I was in like more of like a
- 36:58white collar prison yeah to start with
- 37:00yeah of course I got in trouble there
- 37:01this is before the podcast and get
- 37:04shipped that right away what'd you do
- 37:05you know I had a USB device I was trying
- 37:07to record a book
- 37:09once again not a good idea so he came
- 37:11and snagged me threw me in solitary for
- 37:12that too sent me on Con Air to the next
- 37:15jail so where I did the podcast and kept
- 37:17getting worse but were you guys like did
- 37:18he have your back in there
- 37:20and that was like a really different
- 37:21jail experience it was probably like 60
- 37:24White Collar people so it was mostly
- 37:27like older New York guys and everybody
- 37:29was super nice and relaxed really the
- 37:32other jails were a completely different
- 37:33vibe like the second one you went to
- 37:35there I went to maybe four or five all
- 37:37the other ones was very heavy gang
- 37:39mostly like uh guns and drugs but yeah
- 37:42it's a totally different experience a
- 37:43situation without like the very calm
- 37:45like relaxed prison did you just like to
- 37:47like join a side yeah did you have a
- 37:48career you fit in with so dude I got in
- 37:49trouble I was in jail for one night and
- 37:52it was you were yeah in Texas
- 37:59like four years bro that'd be [ __ ]
- 38:02like one night was pretty scary man it
- 38:04sucks it's [ __ ] it's exactly like the
- 38:06movies like that's what I found it was
- 38:07just like the lunchroom and [ __ ] and
- 38:09like it's like 50 years behind Society
- 38:11it's like part of the segregation like
- 38:13the yeah like this is like all the not a
- 38:15place you want to be man would you play
- 38:17cards in there or anything didn't really
- 38:18play cards did you start you started a
- 38:21business in there or something with
- 38:22phone calls
- 38:23yeah so when covet started
- 38:25people were just like so [ __ ] like you
- 38:27know their families are [ __ ] so I
- 38:29started like a charity to help fund
- 38:30these phone calls because the cost is
- 38:31three dollars and fifteen cents to call
- 38:33our family which is like pretty
- 38:33expensive right so I started a program
- 38:36to fund phone calls for all these
- 38:37inmates which is pretty cool yeah
- 38:40it was like any [ __ ] jail stories
- 38:43dude so many like when I first I was on
- 38:46bail in New York and I've [ __ ] around
- 38:49on bail and was trying to dig myself out
- 38:51of a hole and basically had my bell
- 38:53revoked and was taken to the Brooklyn
- 38:54Detention Center
- 38:55which is like totally brutal and I just
- 38:58didn't know the first thing about jail
- 39:00and like I didn't know about the jail
- 39:02culture all the race stuff like like
- 39:04living in Manhattan like all this stuff
- 39:05just doesn't exist in like you know my
- 39:07mindset and obviously I was naive too
- 39:09which is so stupid but I'm hanging out
- 39:11with like other 25 year old guys and
- 39:13hanging out with the guys who you know I
- 39:15have similar interests to
- 39:16but these like older white guys like
- 39:18literally like Nazi tattoos in their
- 39:20forehead kept coming out to me like oh
- 39:21you can't hang out with them did you say
- 39:22hold his pocket and then say hold his
- 39:25pocket but he's like you can't hang out
- 39:26with the black guys you got to hang out
- 39:27with the white guys you know you got to
- 39:28hang out with your own kind like all
- 39:30these things I just like I wasn't
- 39:31understanding was understanding but
- 39:33anyway I guess you're really pissed off
- 39:34these like you know white supremacist
- 39:36guys because my cellmate who had a
- 39:3914-year sentence he was back in Brooklyn
- 39:41in some appeal uh Indian guy with a
- 39:43financial crime like middle-aged guy
- 39:45super super nice he goes hey Billy I got
- 39:48some bad news you know the white guys
- 39:50they want to fight you
- 39:51they either want 150 or they're going to
- 39:53come and fight you what do you want to
- 39:54do he's like if you don't have the money
- 39:56I'll pay it for you no problem but if
- 39:58you want to fight I got your back [ __ ]
- 40:00and I'm like [ __ ] and like the guy is
- 40:02super super nice how old was he he's
- 40:03probably like 45. yeah probably yeah
- 40:06shout out to Patel no chance but tell us
- 40:08a man anyway so I'm like Patel [ __ ] it
- 40:10like I'm not paying these guys now I
- 40:11just got here like let's fight he goes I
- 40:14knew you're gonna say that so anyway our
- 40:17doors get locked are you capping yeah is
- 40:19this the real story
- 40:21right now
- 40:42tell us props here because like this is
- 40:44like a really cool heartwarming moment
- 40:46so you're locked behind your door for
- 40:48what they call account for a couple
- 40:49hours so he's like trying to tell me
- 40:51what to do dude I'm brand new he's like
- 40:52I gotta put your boots on lace up blah
- 40:54blah blah but the whole time he knew it
- 40:57was gonna happen and he had told one of
- 40:59like the big gangs he was leading the
- 41:00jail like what was happening and you
- 41:02know I wasn't friends with them but they
- 41:03were like you know they were cool and
- 41:04like trying to help me so as soon as the
- 41:06doors got unlocked like the gang guy
- 41:08came and grabbed me he goes hey Billy
- 41:09gotta talk to you so he brought me into
- 41:10his cell to basically protect me Patel
- 41:13went and bum rushed that white guy sell
- 41:15and fought him for me and I had no idea
- 41:17and I came back to my cell and Patel is
- 41:19just bleeding all over the ground his
- 41:20head's all chopped up and like this
- 41:21middle-aged guy there for like like a
- 41:23white collar crime is like hey you're a
- 41:26new kid here you don't know what you're
- 41:27doing it literally went [ __ ] just
- 41:28like Risk to sentence and went and
- 41:29attacked the guy for me why is he doing
- 41:31that no offense but why is he doing that
- 41:33for you he had been in jail for six
- 41:34years I wasn't sentenced yet and like
- 41:36you just get in way more trouble if you
- 41:38get caught fighting and he's like he's
- 41:40like dude you just don't know what's
- 41:41going on and like this [ __ ] is serious
- 41:43that's pretty real which guys have long
- 41:45sense for you yeah why would I do that
- 41:47yes that's what I'm saying of course I
- 41:49can subscribe one of my closest friends
- 41:50he wouldn't do that for me so I wouldn't
- 41:51do I would tell us a real one in jail I
- 41:53mean dude
- 41:57why would we be in there I'm not gonna
- 41:59go beat up random dudes for you I don't
- 42:00know get myself did you ever write any
- 42:02lyrics in there no man I'm tired
- 42:07I'm kind of curious on this so let's go
- 42:09back to fire in the night before yeah
- 42:11what were your feels the night before
- 42:13everybody's getting there we just
- 42:16weren't ready and are you freaking out
- 42:18like looking at the ground totally
- 42:20freaking out and like my genius ass like
- 42:23okay let's set up lights and we'll work
- 42:24overnight and this will be ready by the
- 42:26time they arrive in the morning and this
- 42:28storm just comes through okay
- 42:30that's the funniest part of the day I
- 42:32swear words
- 42:35now they put that in the documentary
- 42:36okay okay there was a storm and I'm like
- 42:38all right it's gonna be over in 30
- 42:39minutes all right it's gonna be over an
- 42:40hour and this storm just didn't go away
- 42:42and my last decision that really [ __ ]
- 42:45everything was people started Landing in
- 42:46the morning and I feel like the festival
- 42:48site just didn't look good enough so I
- 42:50sent them to this beach on the other
- 42:52side of the island I told all the local
- 42:53boat captains and jet ski guys my Go
- 42:55free boats free jet skis give them all
- 42:57the booze they want like give them a
- 42:59great time and then told them to come
- 43:01back like later that night so everybody
- 43:04came over and they were like get them
- 43:05Sauced up before so get them sauce yeah
- 43:07yeah show them the island the Island's
- 43:09amazing yeah but they came back they
- 43:11were wasted it was Pitch Black the
- 43:12lights weren't working NASA started the
- 43:14whole Mayhem so I really [ __ ]
- 43:16everything and like ruined the last
- 43:18chance when I told people to just like
- 43:20go away from the festival site and
- 43:21that's what killed how did you handle
- 43:22that like how did you address everybody
- 43:25I was standing on a milk crate and like
- 43:28trying to be like trying to get people
- 43:30into their houses and I had almost 800
- 43:32you know people working in the festival
- 43:34that time they weren't all like
- 43:35full-time employees but between
- 43:36contractors and full-time employees and
- 43:39it just shows my like inability to
- 43:41manage like where the [ __ ] is everybody
- 43:42I'm standing in this milk crate getting
- 43:44yelled at by you know X hundreds of
- 43:46people and it's like couldn't find
- 43:47anybody it was like the worst feeling in
- 43:49the world damn yeah see that's what I
- 43:52don't understand because in the
- 43:53documentary right A lot of people on
- 43:55your team are constantly talking about
- 43:56yeah we don't have enough time like this
- 43:58isn't gonna happen but they don't really
- 43:59show them coming to talk to you and be
- 44:02like sitting you down and be like bro
- 44:03there's there's no chance this works out
- 44:05it probably wasn't filmed right well but
- 44:07did that happen like were there people
- 44:09from your team being like Billy this is
- 44:11not [ __ ] the yoga guy was saying that
- 44:13so I should have listened like so so
- 44:16people were saying that people were
- 44:17saying it and it's like I was just on
- 44:19this mentality like we are going to make
- 44:21this work at all costs and you know I'd
- 44:23given up everything I had like lie to
- 44:26everybody to get this money yes and like
- 44:28I was just so far down the hole it's
- 44:30like I don't care
- 44:32how impossible this sounds like we're
- 44:33going to make this work and that's what
- 44:35really [ __ ] me whatever happened to
- 44:37that guy you guys see that guy that was
- 44:38the meme the guy that was gonna give out
- 44:39a BJ for the water I've heard a lot
- 44:41that's a legend hello you guys still
- 44:44boys you and that guy
- 44:45um he was gonna let that guy's a [ __ ]
- 44:47Trooper man why wait why were you guys
- 44:50wait wait wait wait why were you guys so
- 44:53sure that he had to like suck the guy's
- 44:54dick like where'd that you trolled him
- 44:56didn't you
- 44:58yeah like why not like why didn't not
- 45:00like pay him money like pay the Border
- 45:02officer money like why did it just jump
- 45:04to like yo you got to blow this guy no
- 45:06you I think you were [ __ ] with him no
- 45:07that's funny if I pay the board I got
- 45:09money I think I would have been in jail
- 45:10for a lot longer so thankfully I didn't
- 45:11do that but uh in the Bahamas though
- 45:13yeah yeah that's bad but um
- 45:16bro you gotta talk with that guy's
- 45:17everywhere
- 45:19I mean any king tried his best
- 45:22I think what I didn't see the
- 45:23documentary was once again I was told
- 45:25how it sounded the day after the day he
- 45:28filmed yeah I was at dinner and he came
- 45:31to meet me at dinner with the producer
- 45:32for the documentary trying to convince
- 45:33me to come interview for it and he's
- 45:35just like laughing his ass off about the
- 45:37story and I hear like on the documentary
- 45:39he's like almost in tears like crying
- 45:40about it so it's like kind of
- 45:42frustrating about how you know people
- 45:44portray certain Adventure but it's like
- 45:46in the documentary he was crying I was
- 45:48told he was seemed to be like very
- 45:49serious about that he pretty much was
- 45:50like yo I was ready to blow somebody was
- 45:52laughing okay all right I don't know so
- 45:54you seemed pretty happy yeah but we
- 45:56didn't go through with it he he was
- 45:58trying his best and like we were
- 46:00certainly all mentality get these things
- 46:01done but there was never like a direct
- 46:03order you know go blow this official but
- 46:06that's the kind of guy you want on your
- 46:07team play you gotta have one guy like
- 46:09that in the squad yeah we have one we
- 46:10got Gabe he's ready
- 46:14besides the festival all the stuff that
- 46:16went South when did like the legal when
- 46:18were you like oh this is coming to me
- 46:20like did it all come at once like with
- 46:21when they started hitting you with like
- 46:23hey this is a problem and we're coming
- 46:24for this yeah so the festival was
- 46:26canceled like late on a Thursday night
- 46:27okay
- 46:29um I flew back to New York late Sunday
- 46:30night so what three days later yeah and
- 46:32then like 5 a.m the FBI was at my door
- 46:35so so who's five hours so sorry say that
- 46:39in five hours I landed like midnight on
- 46:41the Sunday after the festival and at
- 46:42five a.m the FBI so who's hitting FM
- 46:44like yo do you think that like a great
- 46:47great shout out to my doorman at the
- 46:49time you know you're the man I won't say
- 46:51your name and get you in trouble but he
- 46:53told the FBI I lived in the second floor
- 46:54of my building I live in the 10th floor
- 46:57he ran up he took the elevator to the
- 46:59second floor ran up the rest of the
- 47:01stairs knocking on my door texting me
- 47:03it's like Mr McFarland the FBI is here
- 47:06if you want to go I got you at the back
- 47:07right now I'm like no that's a real one
- 47:10shout out that guy no you got a few of
- 47:12those he's a man
- 47:14that guy's a [ __ ] Legend I'll come
- 47:17down he goes okay but we gotta walk down
- 47:19to the second Forest they can't see us
- 47:20coming down did you do that so he walked
- 47:22down to the second floor and then took
- 47:24the elevator down and not so funny but
- 47:26when they came to actually arrest me
- 47:27again months later they went to the
- 47:29wrong apartment oh my God so he saved
- 47:31you a few months yeah now like I got
- 47:34arrested that day got out on bail and
- 47:35then they came to arrest me again though
- 47:37they went to the wrong apartment because
- 47:38he lied to them but like the doormat so
- 47:40who's calling FBI though like the next
- 47:42few the few days later like who is that
- 47:44yeah
- 47:45well do you think Chris Chris no they
- 47:48got paid do you think that they were
- 47:49monitoring you so during the show dude I
- 47:52just like in the process I I I lied and
- 47:54I lied to a lot of powerful people
- 47:56investors are like notified so so naive
- 47:59like I was on the ground when the
- 48:01festival was canceled and this one
- 48:02investor goes to me like he gave me a
- 48:04dollar figure that wasn't the full
- 48:06amount he's like we need this back or
- 48:08else you're going to be on handcuffs
- 48:09from the front page of the Wall Street
- 48:10Journal and basically said like dude I
- 48:12don't have it like [ __ ] off for lack of
- 48:13better terms and I tried calling him
- 48:15again a day later he just goes sorry too
- 48:17late and I didn't know what he meant Oh
- 48:19and like literally like and he had every
- 48:22right to report when was that in the
- 48:24whole problem this is Friday Saturday
- 48:25and then I get back to New York on
- 48:27Sunday and I'm done like dude I was I
- 48:28was guilty I was guilty as hell [ __ ] it
- 48:31was yeah what's that like the FBI
- 48:33showing up
- 48:46[Laughter]
- 48:51looking out for you like that yeah we
- 48:53had some really good dudes man it's like
- 48:55even just back to jail like there were
- 48:57certainly some scumbags in there who
- 48:58just like did really bad things but so
- 49:01many great people who just didn't know
- 49:03anything else and if you're like this 18
- 49:05year old kid and everybody around you is
- 49:07selling drugs you don't have one friend
- 49:09who doesn't do it and you get caught at
- 49:1018 and go to jail like how do you blame
- 49:12that kid right yeah it's like there's
- 49:14some really good honest guys in there
- 49:16what was the worst thing you saw
- 49:18there was some rape
- 49:20um there's a guy who committed suicide
- 49:22in the Brooklyn Detention Center when I
- 49:24was there [ __ ] and I was kind of [ __ ]
- 49:25up
- 49:26um there was a young kid who who came
- 49:29into Brooklyn a couple months after I
- 49:30got there so I was more comfortable at
- 49:32this point he was like my age kind of
- 49:34looked like similar to me so everybody
- 49:36was joking oh like Billy you got a
- 49:38brother here like your brother's finally
- 49:39in jail with you you got a friend yeah
- 49:40and so he's all scared the first day he
- 49:43pays off one of the big gangs for
- 49:45protection gives him a lot of money
- 49:46right so the guy switches his cell to be
- 49:48cellmates with him and he's right next
- 49:50door to myself and like so he just paid
- 49:52this guy or he paid his gang and the guy
- 49:53said okay so come with me and that night
- 49:55you just hear the guy getting raped he
- 49:57goes oh please like stop and do that was
- 49:58[ __ ] like you're right next to him
- 50:00right different cells closed door if you
- 50:02could hear it and like I saw him it's
- 50:04like dude stop you telling it like you
- 50:06can if you call the cops and telling
- 50:07them like they're gonna [ __ ] kill you
- 50:08like there's nothing you can do so it
- 50:11gets worse so the next morning the kid
- 50:12doesn't want to tell him the guy right
- 50:14so he basically goes and tells the cop I
- 50:15need a new cell so they move his cell
- 50:17but the words getting around it he got
- 50:19raped so now the gang pressures the guy
- 50:21that raped him he's like if that guy's
- 50:23that is that guy lying he's like yeah
- 50:24he's like I didn't rape him so the next
- 50:26morning when the door is open all you
- 50:28hear is he cries like help me help me he
- 50:30took a razor blade and went and like
- 50:32slashed the kid up and you never saw him
- 50:33again
- 50:34so he got raped one day and then slashed
- 50:37up the next day so it's like cheese dude
- 50:39this place is [ __ ] real like what was
- 50:42your status like in there like people
- 50:43knew who you were that's [ __ ] insane
- 50:45no well they knew who you were so the
- 50:47big thing about jail is sex offenders
- 50:50which there are tons and people who
- 50:53snitched so if you weren't a sex
- 50:55offender you don't snitch and you don't
- 50:57owe anybody money and only we do that is
- 50:58if you're a drug user like then you're
- 51:00then you're pretty much fine so did
- 51:01people like know who you were they knew
- 51:03about the case yeah and then so but
- 51:05basically if you're not a sex offender
- 51:06or a snitch and you're not like in the
- 51:07gang situation no one really cares about
- 51:09you so you can kind of like stay in your
- 51:10own lane and no one bothers you God that
- 51:12makes sense yeah but like if you're not
- 51:15that like you can't watch TV you can't
- 51:16eat at certain tables like you're really
- 51:18what was the best thing you got to do in
- 51:20there
- 51:22meet people it's like
- 51:25I think when you're working a lot and
- 51:27like trying to excel in your career you
- 51:30don't have
- 51:31months just like hang out with someone
- 51:33and get to know them
- 51:34on like a non-needy level like I don't
- 51:37need anything from you you don't want
- 51:38anything from me just like becoming
- 51:39genuine friends like that was pretty
- 51:42cool and I felt like when you're trying
- 51:43to come up in your career
- 51:45it's hard to find genuine friends
- 51:47because most people want something from
- 51:48you whether it's to be in the podcast
- 51:49whether it's to invest and make money
- 51:51whoever the [ __ ] it is everyone's trying
- 51:52to come up everybody everybody wants to
- 51:53come up like even if you're a great guy
- 51:55you know we're business minded right we
- 51:57want that come up yeah but in there when
- 51:59you don't care about to come up if
- 52:01someone has 30 years in their sentence
- 52:03like they're not trying to come up it's
- 52:04like that time to connect like it's
- 52:06pretty cool which is like a really
- 52:07different humans that's interesting real
- 52:09real connection like you're real friends
- 52:11it's like I don't need anything like
- 52:12we're in jail like I don't want anything
- 52:14like whatever you were before it doesn't
- 52:16[ __ ] matter we're all eating the same
- 52:17[ __ ] and like sleeping in a [ __ ]
- 52:19cotton like we're cool so while while
- 52:21you're in there and and now are you were
- 52:24you thinking about okay this is what I
- 52:25need to do when I get out or this is
- 52:27plans that I have to start when I get
- 52:29out yeah so working on a company now
- 52:31it's called pirate put it together
- 52:34during so this is the new game plan
- 52:36pirate all right it's put it together in
- 52:39my seventh month stint in solitary and
- 52:41to start okay one more happy day yeah
- 52:43bro yeah this is great much better than
- 52:46the like The Hoot show he's drinking for
- 52:47a few years so anyway
- 52:51overall goal here with pirate is like
- 52:53want to make the biggest impact possible
- 52:55and want to pay people back but to do
- 52:58that I need to do what I'm good at
- 53:00that's starting a business
- 53:01not a festival not a festival oh we can
- 53:04get into that
- 53:05oh [ __ ] no no no I'm pulling up I'm
- 53:09pulling up can I have the box can I have
- 53:11the bottle can I can I get pretty funny
- 53:13actually like if you actually do another
- 53:15Festival though it would actually be
- 53:17pretty funny
- 53:18so how many people show up for novelty
- 53:20even pirate kind of gets back to what
- 53:23I'm good at and I think does it in a
- 53:25scale that's a little bit more
- 53:27interesting this time around
- 53:29before we get into it when I go back to
- 53:31the Bahamas for the first time
- 53:33whatever that I don't know what's gonna
- 53:34happen I have to ask permission to go
- 53:36but I'd love for you guys to be there to
- 53:38capture the content and be the first
- 53:40ones to return boots in the ground I
- 53:42think full send getting the reaction
- 53:44from the locals
- 53:48that's great Vlog I love that video it's
- 53:51actually hilarious
- 53:53we will do the four day weekends that
- 53:56made the fire Festival idea happen wait
- 53:58till Steve hears this thing yeah all
- 53:59right so he's gonna lose it here's your
- 54:02message in a bottle and you got to take
- 54:04that with you but
- 54:05um you guys I really hope you guys can
- 54:07make the first return trip so I open it
- 54:09right now it's just a little invitation
- 54:11you guys can open it later but I hope
- 54:12that you guys can come back we'll use
- 54:14the first trip
- 54:15so so you're gonna do you're gonna is it
- 54:18gonna evolve into another festival or is
- 54:20this is like so what pirate is going to
- 54:22be it's going to be a small permanent
- 54:24Hotel
- 54:25in the Bahamas for like artists and
- 54:28entrepreneurs to come and it's like
- 54:29partake in these crazy Adventures
- 54:31they're just gonna build it first I'm
- 54:32assuming we're we're partnering with the
- 54:34development that already exists got it
- 54:35so you know we'll make it our brand
- 54:38yeah people to come hang out you know go
- 54:41spear fishing should we go dude you
- 54:44gotta come yeah I'm going
- 54:46to come I'm going all right you're going
- 54:48too no you can not [ __ ] it yeah we can
- 54:50get into some of the wild [ __ ] that
- 54:51happened down there that I think is
- 54:53great content but we'll give the time
- 54:54bring your video for you who's who else
- 54:57is going to be there
- 54:58we won't buy the people are you guys are
- 55:01you guys coming I mean when I'm going I
- 55:04don't give a [ __ ] yeah so I have to ask
- 55:06permission to travel
- 55:07um due to my probation status but we
- 55:09will ask soon well bro what's I want to
- 55:12do it back the original trip a few small
- 55:14propeller planes straight from New York
- 55:16and doing the whole thing OG status and
- 55:19really showing you guys the other
- 55:20islands of the Caribbean and what we can
- 55:21make happen there I know
- 55:26what do you guys think leave a comment
- 55:28drop a thumbs up on the video real quick
- 55:31what's your status with the people of
- 55:33the Bahamas yeah that's a good point I
- 55:35have so many close friends there like
- 55:37they're the warmest kindest people ever
- 55:40the day I got out like two of my closest
- 55:42friends there flew up to New York
- 55:44literally for the first time from the
- 55:45Bahamas spent a week here with me
- 55:48um my business partner has gone back a
- 55:50couple times for the past couple of
- 55:51months we're really like getting back
- 55:53into full Bahamas mode so we're doing is
- 55:56establishing a permanent spot there for
- 55:58like a manageable number of like artists
- 56:00and creators to come and get together
- 56:01and just like connect and share new
- 56:03ideas
- 56:04but what we did this time is pretty cool
- 56:05we built this virtual replica of the
- 56:08island
- 56:09so no matter where you are in the world
- 56:11you could live stream the island you can
- 56:14actually get together online and change
- 56:16what's happening on the island so for
- 56:18example I change what's happening
- 56:19physically on the island physically so
- 56:21like I could be swimming on the island
- 56:22and people online could like buy me a
- 56:24drink or they can literally Chum the
- 56:26water and like give it all the sharks in
- 56:28the area like I'm sure people would love
- 56:29to would love to see that so it's all
- 56:32about how
- 56:37propose that like to me hey are you down
- 56:39with getting the water Chum I'll have
- 56:41like a pirate app my Apple watch and I
- 56:43can say yeah sure I'll do this and then
- 56:45literally have like a local boat captain
- 56:46drops bait in the water so it's giving
- 56:49people the ability no matter where they
- 56:51are to come to this experience that I
- 56:53always thought was so magical but not
- 56:55just watch it to actually change and
- 56:57even own some of the things happening on
- 56:59the island one sec Billy what if they
- 57:01say yo we don't want you to come back
- 57:02here
- 57:03that would really suck wouldn't it
- 57:05they're not saying that I'm assuming I
- 57:07can't get permission right you talking
- 57:08about the Bahamas yeah I need to ask
- 57:10permission to the just to leave the
- 57:12country to leave the country the Bahamas
- 57:13is cool with you coming back I have
- 57:15plenty of support from the Bahamas so
- 57:16I'm fairly confident that we will be
- 57:18allowed a second chance there which
- 57:20super super grateful for but just need
- 57:22to like kind of go through the process
- 57:23with the US and you know take it step by
- 57:24step
- 57:25damn why don't you live in the Bahamas
- 57:27so what's the company it's like an app
- 57:30it's the company is called pirate so
- 57:31it's you know part physical hotel and
- 57:34part app where you can literally get
- 57:35together everywhere and then change
- 57:37what's happening on this island are they
- 57:39building the hotel right now so we're
- 57:40taking over a development it's already
- 57:42been there it's never been marketed
- 57:43before so we're gonna make it it's like
- 57:45pirate Adventure theme and essentially
- 57:48invite various like content creators and
- 57:50entrepreneurs and it's like replicate
- 57:52these Adventure trips that kicked
- 57:54everything off but do a unique twist
- 57:57where you're there on the island and
- 57:58then a thousand people at home could be
- 58:00like dictating your Island Experience so
- 58:03the hotel exists right like it's there
- 58:04it's not a currently Hotel it's a couple
- 58:07of dozen Villas that's basically you
- 58:08know a private Villa like a villa or
- 58:10like it's a real thing right so like
- 58:12just like cardboard boxes right now it's
- 58:14gonna be ready in what three weeks
- 58:18just give yourself enough time for this
- 58:20one so we took we took our first let's
- 58:22not rush this like we don't know yeah
- 58:23dude like the great thing is like
- 58:25there's no problem is right like I have
- 58:27no no investors and no deadlines we took
- 58:29our first guest back last weekend I
- 58:31didn't go but my business partner took
- 58:32them like they had a [ __ ] incredible
- 58:33time and taking step by step but really
- 58:36focusing on the tech now and like think
- 58:39there's so much in like this emerging
- 58:40technology where people can come
- 58:42together online to actually like own and
- 58:44affect these physical assets it's going
- 58:47to make this experience totally
- 58:49different and open to everybody
- 58:51and are are you super confident now like
- 58:53as any of you do you ever worry now like
- 58:55what what's happened in the past are you
- 58:57ever scared or like does that play into
- 58:58what you're doing in the future I think
- 59:00it all just comes down to honesty right
- 59:02it's like I don't have [ __ ] and I'm just
- 59:04like very grateful to have supportive
- 59:05friends and supportive companies who
- 59:07want to see this happen so I'm going to
- 59:09go after all the [ __ ] they believe yeah
- 59:11it's great and it's like I'm going for
- 59:12it and but I'm gonna go for it honestly
- 59:14so if anything goes wrong there's
- 59:16there's no like I'm honest about
- 59:18finances I'm honest about like what it
- 59:20can or can't do yeah it's thinking
- 59:22completely different Leaf here and dude
- 59:23it's almost like the motivation of a
- 59:26team and supporters is so much better
- 59:28when I'm brutally honest it's like dude
- 59:30I don't have [ __ ] like I can't afford to
- 59:32do that but here's what I can do and how
- 59:34can we make this happen and things are
- 59:35just going so much I think you make the
- 59:37best out of any situation when you're
- 59:38honestly yeah it's like people are just
- 59:40like it's refreshing right yeah and
- 59:41people will fight for you if you're just
- 59:43honest about what you can and can't do
- 59:44sure learning about your weaknesses and
- 59:46it's getting a [ __ ] amazing team have
- 59:49you built like a completely new team
- 59:50this time around have a totally new team
- 59:52uh there's like 12 of us who are pretty
- 59:54much close to full time right now so
- 59:55we're still small moving Squad right
- 59:57here uh this is definitely part of the
- 59:59pirate crew right here so we're trying
- 1:00:01to build as fast as we can it's still
- 1:00:03nice who like would it just be us or
- 1:00:05like we're gonna invite some chicks
- 1:00:07we'll invite some people guys we gotta
- 1:00:10need we gotta make it happen yeah like
- 1:00:13like the same type of squad like before
- 1:00:15like Kendall like that type yeah can we
- 1:00:16get them I don't know we gotta take it
- 1:00:19step by step we can have a good time do
- 1:00:23you have any relationship with John
- 1:00:24anymore
- 1:00:25uh no
- 1:00:27um no uh dude like incredible salesman
- 1:00:30yeah super charismatic guy
- 1:00:33but when [ __ ] hit the fan he'd already
- 1:00:35been to jail
- 1:00:36I'm not going back if you commit an
- 1:00:38offense a second time it's way worse so
- 1:00:41at the first chance to cover his ass you
- 1:00:44know he did yeah so does that does that
- 1:00:46bug you at all that you're the only one
- 1:00:47that went down uh
- 1:00:49no because I was like dude I was the
- 1:00:51[ __ ] most I was guilty you know I was
- 1:00:53responsible for everything I think what
- 1:00:55bugs me is people taking credit for
- 1:00:57things they didn't do
- 1:00:58well in reality there's like there are
- 1:01:00hundreds of people who are working on
- 1:01:01fire right so like the good marketing
- 1:01:03stuff wasn't like one person's idea it
- 1:01:05was many many people working together
- 1:01:06yeah someone guys were saying oh well
- 1:01:08I'm not responsible but you know all
- 1:01:10seven good things that happen were all
- 1:01:11because of me like I think that's lame
- 1:01:13as [ __ ] like sure either was you or it
- 1:01:14wasn't you that's it pisses me off the
- 1:01:16most like I don't blame him for covering
- 1:01:18his ass if he doesn't go to jail again
- 1:01:19he has got a family he's got things more
- 1:01:21important than like me to him but you
- 1:01:23know don't take responsibility for [ __ ]
- 1:01:25that you know many many talented people
- 1:01:27right did that pisses me off why he was
- 1:01:30taking credit yeah just taking credit
- 1:01:31for for like for things that went well
- 1:01:34you know when it wasn't you know it
- 1:01:36wasn't one person it was many many like
- 1:01:38you guys know dude like you have a great
- 1:01:39idea in your business you bounce it off
- 1:01:40Five Guys like it changes ten times
- 1:01:42before you launch it like yeah that's
- 1:01:43how this [ __ ] works it's not one person
- 1:01:45who does one good thing but doesn't do
- 1:01:46one bad thing it's not how it works but
- 1:01:48yeah damn yeah I think I got all that I
- 1:01:50don't know I haven't heard anything
- 1:01:51about him in five years so yeah you're
- 1:01:53moving on yeah are you excited for the
- 1:01:55future dude I'm worried at all pumped
- 1:01:57like
- 1:01:58it's been two months and I'm trying to
- 1:02:01catch up it's like I felt like the first
- 1:02:02couple weeks what have you been doing
- 1:02:04these past two months I didn't have a
- 1:02:05phone for four years yeah like uh I mean
- 1:02:08no cell phone the last two years they
- 1:02:09took away my pay phone after the podcast
- 1:02:11incident so I feel like no contact with
- 1:02:13the world
- 1:02:14but it's like you know kind of getting
- 1:02:15back to life super super pumped for the
- 1:02:18UFC on Saturday oh of course um uh I
- 1:02:22don't know one of my I haven't reached
- 1:02:23out yet but one of my childhood Jiu
- 1:02:25Jitsu instructors Fighters fighting for
- 1:02:26the title so I'm gonna shoot him a DM
- 1:02:28tonight to CP see if he can talk to me
- 1:02:30uh so Plano Cruise was my high school
- 1:02:32coach in Alex Pereira is his fighter so
- 1:02:35wow yeah plinio if you're listening I'm
- 1:02:37gonna DM you tonight so please you're a
- 1:02:38big UFC fan yeah big UFC fan I've done
- 1:02:40Jiu Jitsu for a while so what are your
- 1:02:42predictions for Saturday
- 1:02:44dude I gotta go with the Brazilian gotta
- 1:02:46go with Alex Pereira you know it was
- 1:02:48super cool training with plinio in high
- 1:02:49school so excited to see you got Poirier
- 1:02:51or Chandler
- 1:02:53I'm a Poirier fan yeah yeah I think he's
- 1:02:55fine so Chandler's gonna win for sure
- 1:02:57yeah
- 1:02:59okay yeah he's a wrong gear guy oh wow
- 1:03:02that's dope yeah you guys beef ever or
- 1:03:05no me and him B yeah why would I be for
- 1:03:07I don't know I'm not beefing the UFC guy
- 1:03:09what the [ __ ] get your story up or
- 1:03:10something okay
- 1:03:11well like you know I want to train with
- 1:03:14him so do you train
- 1:03:16uh do I train because he train he's
- 1:03:18offended right now that you're outside
- 1:03:19oh that was that was funny
- 1:03:22he probably meant like in in the the
- 1:03:24fighting respects like martial arts yeah
- 1:03:26I've done BJJ I've done stuff like that
- 1:03:27I haven't trained super consistently but
- 1:03:29but I train yes of course I train
- 1:03:31awesome do you have any other hobbies
- 1:03:33that you do like that are just random or
- 1:03:35dude like a lot of Jiu Jitsu been doing
- 1:03:37a lot of Muay Thai recently too it's
- 1:03:38like like the martial arts um I used to
- 1:03:40fly a little bit just like learning from
- 1:03:42these trips so I like to fly and just
- 1:03:43love the water like love scuba diving
- 1:03:45love free diving you know [ __ ] jet
- 1:03:47skis of course I know you made fun of a
- 1:03:48lot [ __ ] Bahamas baby let's go just
- 1:03:51live the life so wait wait when should
- 1:03:52we go so we're like when are we aiming
- 1:03:54to go I don't want to say on camera and
- 1:03:56like get turned down but you see he's
- 1:03:58getting better looking for it man like
- 1:03:59he's getting better people shoot for it
- 1:04:01it's like what's a rough flip like dude
- 1:04:03like I'm actually six months
- 1:04:06period I'm gonna get too excited and be
- 1:04:09like let's go no dates yet no dates
- 1:04:11tomorrow Slow Me Down guys three days no
- 1:04:13what do you think though like what's a
- 1:04:15window no no I don't know I actually
- 1:04:17want to know myself oh yeah is this a
- 1:04:19year is this like next month is it six
- 1:04:21months
- 1:04:23I would hope in the next year it's the
- 1:04:25next year okay in the next year so yeah
- 1:04:27okay so we're like we won't be going for
- 1:04:29a year
- 1:04:30to this and guys don't hold me to this
- 1:04:32but we're gonna [ __ ] make this happen
- 1:04:34all right
- 1:04:35I get it [ __ ] it's so funny
- 1:04:38[ __ ] no I was just excited to go but
- 1:04:41like this time can't promise was gonna
- 1:04:42happen when we land I mean dude no one's
- 1:04:44gonna hit you guys but it's gonna happen
- 1:04:45to me but we'll have a good team there
- 1:04:46to yeah we're gonna have to security
- 1:04:48yeah
- 1:04:49[ __ ] it's gonna be good
- 1:04:51that's funny man I guess like guys on
- 1:04:54the team like you you know the story
- 1:04:55it's like what do you think we should
- 1:04:56talk about to make this podcast really
- 1:04:59go I feel like I'm kind of vanilla in my
- 1:05:00answers so I think you've been really
- 1:05:02good yeah you're doing you guys did any
- 1:05:04of like the like the Jenners ever like
- 1:05:06what was your interaction with like that
- 1:05:08yeah because well sorry that's they took
- 1:05:10they took some backlash for promoting it
- 1:05:12yeah understood did they'll ever come
- 1:05:14back to you from them uh no obviously
- 1:05:16not but like dude you just can't you
- 1:05:18know it's none of their fault right if
- 1:05:20your company is like seemingly doing
- 1:05:22super super well it's just impossible
- 1:05:24for
- 1:05:25every person to do like full due
- 1:05:27diligence like it's just not it's not
- 1:05:28practical so I think like the public
- 1:05:30like backlash and lawsuits against like
- 1:05:32the artists and talent is just such
- 1:05:34[ __ ] [ __ ] kind of unmerited yeah
- 1:05:35yeah so many kind of stuff out there who
- 1:05:38just try to take advantage and like line
- 1:05:39their own pockets and it's like it makes
- 1:05:41me sick it's like it's not their fault
- 1:05:42who got a bigger bag uh rajakowski or
- 1:05:44Baldwin oh man it's a good question
- 1:05:48probably ragic I don't know man this was
- 1:05:50pretty Bieber right pre-bieber too oh
- 1:05:54Emily van dude
- 1:05:56yeah like I I I I for sure I think
- 1:05:59Emily's is twice as much yeah what what
- 1:06:01did they get paid to come out she's
- 1:06:03gonna be pissed to hear that wow it's
- 1:06:05just like
- 1:06:08uh yeah I don't know man yeah you don't
- 1:06:10remember some people were great some
- 1:06:13people weren't great but you know like
- 1:06:14what did you have to pay them how much
- 1:06:16Haley was
- 1:06:18I've only known Haley from one trip
- 1:06:20super respectful yeah you know very
- 1:06:22talented she had a great time she was
- 1:06:23very professional and awesome I'm sure
- 1:06:26she commands like crazy top dollars
- 1:06:28right now but she was like she was a
- 1:06:29beast at her job and like awesome uh she
- 1:06:32did get to experience the zero gravity
- 1:06:34so we had a nice plane ride together so
- 1:06:35I'm sure she had some you turn the plane
- 1:06:37off on that one so we basically you tilt
- 1:06:40the plane up in the air and he cut the
- 1:06:41engine and it's like it's like a 1960s
- 1:06:44crop duster like the thing [ __ ] is a
- 1:06:45piece of [ __ ] and you let the plane
- 1:06:47float down so you're literally floating
- 1:06:49in the plane like spinning each other in
- 1:06:50the air now when it gets too low you ram
- 1:06:52the engine and catch it
- 1:06:54so we should grab it together on the
- 1:06:56plane but yeah that was that was a fun
- 1:06:57time
- 1:06:58so you can't say how much they got paid
- 1:07:01I don't wanna know
- 1:07:02I mean people people were paid fairly
- 1:07:05for that uh and then like I think what
- 1:07:07pissed me off the most is like when they
- 1:07:10got sued for getting paid like they did
- 1:07:12everything they were supposed to do
- 1:07:13right they showed up they did the shoot
- 1:07:15they did promotion like it's not their
- 1:07:17fault that I [ __ ] up the logistics so I
- 1:07:19understand the mindset like in my own
- 1:07:21little world I thought I could do
- 1:07:23whatever I wanted to do yeah and like
- 1:07:24looking back it's [ __ ] [ __ ] but I
- 1:07:26can see how other people fall down that
- 1:07:27same trap
- 1:07:28all right we're going to interrupt the
- 1:07:30podcast really really quick we're gonna
- 1:07:31get back to it but if you guys are
- 1:07:32watching we're doing a new full sun
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- 1:07:46hoodies also this one too two Christmas
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- 1:07:59drop we haven't done a drop in a very
- 1:08:00very long time so if you guys want to
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- 1:08:04Christmas gift too everything's gonna
- 1:08:05ship Before Christmas let's get back
- 1:08:07into the podcast where what part of town
- 1:08:09do you live in uh I'm in bedside
- 1:08:11Brooklyn right now right so yeah
- 1:08:13hopefully we'll get back to Manhattan
- 1:08:15once I once I can make some money again
- 1:08:17but yeah taking my time
- 1:08:19so is this your first Venture like this
- 1:08:21is how you're making money as pirate
- 1:08:22doing pirate like getting decent like
- 1:08:24media sponsorship marketing deals so I
- 1:08:27feel like companies are coming to us
- 1:08:28saying hey we know you can market so
- 1:08:30using that to fund pirate at this point
- 1:08:32you said you follow him on tick tock
- 1:08:34what's that you saw him on Tick Tock no
- 1:08:36I was joking I was just like are you on
- 1:08:37Tick Tock I started Tick Tock how many
- 1:08:40followers do you have I have like 2 000
- 1:08:42followers to help me out guys nice I'm
- 1:08:44clueless what are you doing like selfie
- 1:08:46video ones literally like hey guys I'm
- 1:08:48coming out with something new like stay
- 1:08:49tuned Sonny's trying to get some advice
- 1:08:52I just want to see how it's doing for
- 1:08:54you I should do a collab you just maybe
- 1:08:56we will go all the time
- 1:08:58do the 21. you [ __ ] loser
- 1:09:02what did your first Tick Tock get when
- 1:09:03you posted it
- 1:09:05I think we almost have 200 000 views and
- 1:09:07guys for me like a social media [ __ ]
- 1:09:08loser's pretty cool like I've been out
- 1:09:10of the game what was the first post uh
- 1:09:12basically saying I'm back I want to make
- 1:09:15this up to everybody I've got something
- 1:09:16new but this time everybody's invited so
- 1:09:20that's the message and we've literally
- 1:09:21started the comments like I gotta know I
- 1:09:23can't read them yeah dude I'm too much
- 1:09:25[ __ ] like I just get so mad what's your
- 1:09:27Instagram uh uh pirate Billy p-y-r-t
- 1:09:30Billy is it [ __ ] if you read the
- 1:09:32comments comments are pretty bad are
- 1:09:34they bad can you handle it or not here
- 1:09:36and do I hate it no that's actually
- 1:09:38really funny we should read some of them
- 1:09:39I hate it this is on your first video
- 1:09:42right
- 1:09:43I'm not sure what you're looking at but
- 1:09:44wait can you send me the link
- 1:09:46well this isn't my phone oh okay wait
- 1:09:49but this is on his tick tock on his page
- 1:09:50this is on a tick tock it's actually
- 1:09:52funny because people cut people troll
- 1:09:53people creative bro yeah Tick Tock
- 1:09:56Savage dude uh fire Festival 2.0
- 1:09:59building
- 1:10:06Society loves giving people who bring no
- 1:10:08productive value to anything Second
- 1:10:10Chances so I fully expect to see this
- 1:10:12guy rich as successful in one year what
- 1:10:14do you think about that
- 1:10:16that's an interesting one
- 1:10:18because I mean social media listen there
- 1:10:20are some interesting shots I guess my
- 1:10:22biggest like and I'm probably so wrong
- 1:10:23for thinkiness but it's like I have so
- 1:10:25many of my own problems that I'm so
- 1:10:27worried about
- 1:10:29what kind of person doesn't have enough
- 1:10:32problems where they can have time to go
- 1:10:34shooting somebody else online and like I
- 1:10:35hope I get that your lawyer is freaking
- 1:10:37out right now hold on probably before
- 1:10:40you kind of talk about that comment I
- 1:10:41also think it's important note that like
- 1:10:43you did do something yeah you [ __ ]
- 1:10:45something up and you lied to a bunch of
- 1:10:46people but you still were able to pull
- 1:10:48together something that like most people
- 1:10:50couldn't pull together like you did you
- 1:10:53did tell some lies along the way
- 1:10:54obviously for sure here but like
- 1:10:56regardless I don't know I can't name 10
- 1:10:59people who all like were able to
- 1:11:00actually even get even to finesse to
- 1:11:02that point right like you just kind of
- 1:11:04you over promise and under delivered and
- 1:11:07you you got [ __ ] but like that's not a
- 1:11:10normal thing for most people to be able
- 1:11:11to pull together so I think there's
- 1:11:13there's I'm not saying hey it's a good
- 1:11:14thing you did it but if you take the
- 1:11:16things that you've done and the things
- 1:11:17you've learned along the way now like
- 1:11:18you said the honesty and your skills
- 1:11:20prior and your skills current that you
- 1:11:22you know you obviously have a new team
- 1:11:23it's like why couldn't you be successful
- 1:11:25in less than a year yeah you know so I
- 1:11:26think it's very reasonable to think that
- 1:11:28yeah I hope I get a chance thank you
- 1:11:29yeah well no I agree but I think uh the
- 1:11:32marketing I think you were a step ahead
- 1:11:33of people for sure when it came to the
- 1:11:35marketing like absolutely that was the
- 1:11:37first time you ever saw all those models
- 1:11:38otherwise it wouldn't have happened it
- 1:11:39was crazy bro that changed everything
- 1:11:40putting those models together and like
- 1:11:42them posting about it was a game changer
- 1:11:45yeah
- 1:11:48yeah it's about going do you guys see it
- 1:11:50when we posted it or no I saw when he
- 1:11:52posted I was like what the [ __ ] is this
- 1:11:54nice yeah yeah no I saw it yeah he's
- 1:11:57probably sold some tickets on the side
- 1:11:58yeah oh what the [ __ ] how much are you
- 1:12:01standing
- 1:12:02there's a season two I don't have it I
- 1:12:06just want to know what my dad is
- 1:12:08bro that's crazy season two coming soon
- 1:12:10or what yeah but yeah I really hope you
- 1:12:12guys can come back with us I think that
- 1:12:15is
- 1:12:15the festival please or try attempting
- 1:12:19dude like all pirate is all about taking
- 1:12:21people to places that I think are
- 1:12:22impossible so I mean I have to do a
- 1:12:24Pirate Fest right it's like it can't be
- 1:12:26tomorrow it can't be in four months but
- 1:12:27there's gonna be a Pirate Fest it's
- 1:12:29gonna be like imagine number of people
- 1:12:31and but like we're gonna do it in a
- 1:12:33really unique
- 1:12:34unique way but you know Pirate Fest and
- 1:12:37you gotta do it just to like show that
- 1:12:39you can't do it
- 1:12:41just [ __ ] get a story of one artist
- 1:12:43and fans there and then having a good
- 1:12:44time and you're proven people wrong 100
- 1:12:46and the island is so beautiful and it's
- 1:12:48fun like naked activities get some good
- 1:12:50music and you're gonna meet fun people
- 1:12:53and have a great day you do have to do a
- 1:12:55festival honestly a point too because
- 1:12:57like there's already so much built up
- 1:12:59behind it that like if you finally do it
- 1:13:01it's like a whole nother [ __ ] like
- 1:13:03Netflix thing I'm going if there's a
- 1:13:04festival I'm there I'm going dude thank
- 1:13:06you guys I think the cool thing is
- 1:13:07people will go just to see what happens
- 1:13:09exactly people who hate me will be the
- 1:13:12first ones to want to come like yo I got
- 1:13:13a beer [ __ ] on this guy
- 1:13:15come on let's go yeah just fruit just
- 1:13:19you know prove them wrong this time
- 1:13:21yeah outside of time what do you think
- 1:13:23was the biggest mistake you made lying
- 1:13:25and it's like I think like just people
- 1:13:28now I think are just going so much
- 1:13:30harder like for me with me because I'm
- 1:13:32honest and dude it's like so [ __ ]
- 1:13:34refreshing and I hated being that guy
- 1:13:36it's like hey I'm lying to people and
- 1:13:38I'm getting all these boats and planes
- 1:13:40but I'm in the back like nervous as [ __ ]
- 1:13:42like on my computer like did the wire
- 1:13:43hit can I pay for this yacht tomorrow or
- 1:13:45is like or is Bella Hadid gonna laugh at
- 1:13:47me because I can't [ __ ] fly her home
- 1:13:48it was so funny though it was funny to
- 1:13:51see all the people get fooled like I'm
- 1:13:53not gonna lie I like when they walk I'm
- 1:13:54human because it's a bunch of rich
- 1:13:56people like spending it one night in the
- 1:13:57Bahamas yeah and they thought they were
- 1:13:59getting a villa and then they just got
- 1:14:00the tent with the [ __ ] beds and [ __ ]
- 1:14:02yeah
- 1:14:05they just got waxed terrible oh looking
- 1:14:08back it's like obvious but how did I I
- 1:14:10don't know man bad [ __ ] it's slightly
- 1:14:13funny I can't even lie I think it was so
- 1:14:16crazy and like looking back now and like
- 1:14:18having zero credit like not like
- 1:14:20literally but like socially the credit
- 1:14:22system that we had was just absurd it's
- 1:14:25like I could be on the island and say
- 1:14:27hey I need three planes and two yachts
- 1:14:28and they would arrive in two hours and
- 1:14:30no one would tell me a price no one
- 1:14:31would ask for payment and like that was
- 1:14:34absolutely like insane everybody wanted
- 1:14:36to be around Talent whether it's models
- 1:14:39like Instagram attention and I feel like
- 1:14:41everything was there and the bills would
- 1:14:42come months later and I couldn't pay
- 1:14:43them of course but like you know the
- 1:14:45credit that we had built up was just
- 1:14:47from the star power yeah just from like
- 1:14:49the Intrigue and people want to be a
- 1:14:51part of it and there was no questions
- 1:14:52it's like it felt like anything that we
- 1:14:54wanted to order was like on demand and
- 1:14:55it was like it took me to this like
- 1:14:57false reality where
- 1:14:59I just [ __ ] up it's like when you're
- 1:15:00ordering room service and you get the
- 1:15:02bill later and you're like yeah
- 1:15:04a couple boats and planes yeah exactly
- 1:15:06when you do stuff now are you just like
- 1:15:08do you think like all right 26 milli
- 1:15:11gotta pay that like does that change the
- 1:15:13way that you operate when I first got to
- 1:15:16jail 100 that's where I started [ __ ]
- 1:15:18up I was trying to do this stupid book
- 1:15:19got in trouble tried to do a podcast got
- 1:15:22in trouble and now it's okay if I make a
- 1:15:24thousand dollars and pay you know
- 1:15:25whatever percent I have to restitution
- 1:15:27like that's what it is and as soon as I
- 1:15:29start thinking like about big numbers
- 1:15:31like I'll make bad decisions so it's not
- 1:15:32about the money it is about the money
- 1:15:34but it can't be but the money in the
- 1:15:35short term it's like go and do cool [ __ ]
- 1:15:37do it honestly make a positive impact
- 1:15:40and show a bunch of people something
- 1:15:42they never could have [ __ ] dreamed of
- 1:15:43like money always comes when you do
- 1:15:45money will come if I can if I can do it
- 1:15:47yeah exactly I can do the cool [ __ ] that
- 1:15:49I was doing on a small scale and share
- 1:15:52it with people the money will hopefully
- 1:15:53come yeah and this just out of my
- 1:15:56curiosity what do you think is the
- 1:15:57biggest lie that you told to one of the
- 1:15:59investors dude I love that question in
- 1:16:01fact the obvious answer is that I had
- 1:16:03more money than I said I had or our
- 1:16:05revenue is higher I said it was going to
- 1:16:07be
- 1:16:10I think it was like
- 1:16:12pretending that I understood what the
- 1:16:14[ __ ] I was doing
- 1:16:16like Logistics logistic wise yeah it's
- 1:16:19like
- 1:16:20oh we don't have water okay how do we
- 1:16:22get water well you take salt water and
- 1:16:24you do reverse osmosis into fresh water
- 1:16:25and like oh now I think I know how to do
- 1:16:27that I know a [ __ ] idea to do reverse
- 1:16:29osmosis right so I think it's like more
- 1:16:31about like lying about what I thought I
- 1:16:33could do was the worst lie that I could
- 1:16:36have had because then people didn't know
- 1:16:37how to help
- 1:16:38oh [ __ ] oh I know how to do that then
- 1:16:40the person steps back and say okay you
- 1:16:42got that like you don't need my help
- 1:16:44whereas if I could have said like dude I
- 1:16:45have no idea how to get [ __ ] water on
- 1:16:47this island like I had enough like
- 1:16:49powerful investors and advisors they're
- 1:16:50not delegating properly I wasn't
- 1:16:52delegating properly they would have
- 1:16:53called someone who actually knew what
- 1:16:55they were doing to help me so it was
- 1:16:56lying about my skill set damn because
- 1:16:58that sucks because like you could have
- 1:17:00changed that yeah like straight up just
- 1:17:01by like and obviously we're going back
- 1:17:03in circles now like telling the truth
- 1:17:04and saying hey I need this I need
- 1:17:05someone to give me this advice they
- 1:17:07would have been like sure sure dude just
- 1:17:09saying you don't know is like so much
- 1:17:11better than pretending like you do know
- 1:17:12what was the toughest thing to do like
- 1:17:15to get done for a music festival what's
- 1:17:17the hardest thing to accomplish
- 1:17:19I think I hired way too quickly I just
- 1:17:22didn't know how to manage hundreds of
- 1:17:24people
- 1:17:24and like every day was a fire like you
- 1:17:27know literally right trying to solve a
- 1:17:29problem so the company doesn't go under
- 1:17:30and not understanding how to give
- 1:17:32hundreds of people the attention and
- 1:17:34guidance they need to actually come
- 1:17:36together and make something happen have
- 1:17:37you seen like the viral picture of like
- 1:17:39the two pieces of bread and the cheese
- 1:17:41yeah
- 1:17:42um
- 1:17:43what is that all right dude it's like
- 1:17:46the food that's what's portrayed social
- 1:17:48media experts if we serve 3
- 1:17:51000
- 1:17:52connected people cheese sandwiches there
- 1:17:55would be more than one picture
- 1:17:56sure that's my that's my defense who's
- 1:17:58actually all right the food was fine
- 1:18:00food was fine it wasn't like it was not
- 1:18:01great the food was fine
- 1:18:03and then what happened to me and Andy
- 1:18:06King actually told me this later was two
- 1:18:07kids got super high came up to Andy King
- 1:18:09and said hey man all I really wanted to
- 1:18:10cheese sandwich so that's what he made
- 1:18:12for them and that one picture went viral
- 1:18:13damn yeah so it's like but like if you
- 1:18:16serve 3 000 of those it'd be more than
- 1:18:18just one you know trash can with a
- 1:18:19sandwich but like once again totally
- 1:18:22under deliver on the food and [ __ ] it
- 1:18:23up but it was not all cheese sandwiches
- 1:18:25however when I first got to Jail uh I
- 1:18:28thought it was funny they gave me my
- 1:18:29first day there they gave me a lunch
- 1:18:30yeah that's what I'm saying who you were
- 1:18:33yeah so they trolled you yeah that's
- 1:18:35dope so a lot of people recognized you
- 1:18:37in there
- 1:18:38um people just watch the news all day
- 1:18:39long oh right there's a couple of TVs so
- 1:18:42it's not like they're super super behind
- 1:18:44like on everything so it's all like you
- 1:18:45know the morning shows and like the talk
- 1:18:47shows but people watched a lot of news
- 1:18:49damn and they try to connect like like
- 1:18:51if you're in there you feel better about
- 1:18:52yourself when you see somebody else
- 1:18:54getting in trouble like even if you
- 1:18:55don't want to admit it so everybody
- 1:18:57watches like all the crime shows and
- 1:18:59like behind jail shows it's all big did
- 1:19:01you pull an all-nighter that night
- 1:19:03from the festival yeah yeah it was it
- 1:19:05was brutal did it when did it kick in
- 1:19:07like yo I could be [ __ ] I was
- 1:19:08literally told three people died
- 1:19:10and the ways I was told they died were
- 1:19:12just so [ __ ] wild and like if I had
- 1:19:15any stable mind at the time I would have
- 1:19:17understood it wasn't true and I'm like
- 1:19:19[ __ ] like I can't handle this like let's
- 1:19:20cancel this immediately that's what led
- 1:19:22me to cancel it but thankfully no one
- 1:19:24got hurt and that was all [ __ ] but
- 1:19:25like that was why someone lied to do
- 1:19:27what they say how they say they died I
- 1:19:28was told someone got shot someone got
- 1:19:30bit by a pig and someone was just
- 1:19:31kidnapped and missing who told you that
- 1:19:33just random people who were working
- 1:19:34there so Jesus stuff like obviously no
- 1:19:37one got bit by a pig and died there are
- 1:19:38the pigs in the Bahamas but like in my
- 1:19:40mindset I'm like oh [ __ ] the pigs came
- 1:19:41like I can't handle this they're like
- 1:19:43kill those pigs are friendly yeah but
- 1:19:45there's people on Twitter saying shots
- 1:19:46fired we're hearing gunfire was all it's
- 1:19:48all false but I'm seeing the tweets
- 1:19:49hearing the rumors
- 1:19:51and it was because people were like
- 1:19:53starting to get mad they're getting mad
- 1:19:54and like I was literally like on the
- 1:19:56phone with the reporter on like they
- 1:19:58were literally I'm not gonna mention the
- 1:19:59publication but they were live streaming
- 1:20:01me on their homepage their website
- 1:20:02standing on this milk carton like and
- 1:20:04then I was already talking to him on the
- 1:20:06phone while they were live streaming
- 1:20:08they're like we have reports that you
- 1:20:09ran away and you're yacht with all these
- 1:20:11supermodels and cocaine it's like dude
- 1:20:13you [ __ ] idiots you're literally live
- 1:20:14streaming like right here right in the
- 1:20:16middle of this and like it was just like
- 1:20:17so overwhelming and
- 1:20:21what was jaw doing at that point uh
- 1:20:25night of he hadn't gotten there yet he
- 1:20:27had a concert somewhere in Middle
- 1:20:28America and he was gonna fly in on I
- 1:20:30think on Friday and it was canceled late
- 1:20:31Thursday night did he text you me like
- 1:20:33yo bro like good luck anything for sure
- 1:20:36I mean like yeah what was the falling
- 1:20:39out like I mean as soon as
- 1:20:41I don't know if I should say this but
- 1:20:42[ __ ] it as soon as uh as soon as the FBI
- 1:20:45came to see me my lawyer got a call from
- 1:20:47his lawyer and as Larry basically said
- 1:20:49we're going in tomorrow to proffer I
- 1:20:51don't know what that means but they're
- 1:20:52basically going to tell them everything
- 1:20:53of course so he went in like the next
- 1:20:55day and you know my lawyer is like if
- 1:20:57you call him again I'm not gonna
- 1:20:59represent you yeah so that was that was
- 1:21:01into that
- 1:21:02contact
- 1:21:04yeah no interest I haven't heard
- 1:21:07anything about him in five years so I'm
- 1:21:09super focused on pirate yeah have you
- 1:21:11like reached out to anybody to try and
- 1:21:12work with them and they've just been
- 1:21:13like yo Billy sorry dude I'm not gonna
- 1:21:15[ __ ] yeah I wrote a lot of letters in
- 1:21:16solitary like mostly apologizing people
- 1:21:19took employees investors advisors some
- 1:21:23responded then but like in the past like
- 1:21:25two weeks I'm starting to get a lot of
- 1:21:27people reaching back out probably get
- 1:21:28more after this bottle probably and
- 1:21:31dudes like hard emotionally it's like I
- 1:21:34really I feel really bad for the
- 1:21:35investor that I definitely [ __ ] over
- 1:21:37who like wrote that letter asking for a
- 1:21:38life sentence but like do I have the
- 1:21:40self-respect to respond or is it like I
- 1:21:42was totally wrong I should respond like
- 1:21:44these things I just don't know how to
- 1:21:45handle at this point do you know how
- 1:21:47what do you mean go ahead what happened
- 1:21:49say sorry basically to the guy who's
- 1:21:51like yo you I hope you had a lifestyle
- 1:21:53how much did that guy give uh that
- 1:21:56investor gave
- 1:21:57I I don't want to say because people are
- 1:21:59gonna know who it is then but it was
- 1:22:00true it was a it was a meaningful amount
- 1:22:01of money and they're for sure wronged
- 1:22:03and like they deserve to be mad at the
- 1:22:05judge but it's like you asked to take
- 1:22:07away my entire life and now you want to
- 1:22:08get together it's like how do I how does
- 1:22:10anybody that's like yo maybe you took
- 1:22:11away his life because he gave his
- 1:22:13savings to you for sure and that and I
- 1:22:15could totally like be wrong here but I
- 1:22:17think I might just conflicted like
- 1:22:18emotionally yeah on that and like this
- 1:22:20crazy small world like I had a a former
- 1:22:23employee
- 1:22:24um he was a core member of the team you
- 1:22:26know talented guy when things went wrong
- 1:22:28he was you know quick they pass blame
- 1:22:29and he's like he probably thought he
- 1:22:32would never hear from me again five
- 1:22:33years ago right I get a call a couple of
- 1:22:35days ago from you know advisor I really
- 1:22:37respect and this guy's applying for a
- 1:22:39job at his friend's company and the CEO
- 1:22:41of that company called him because they
- 1:22:42knew he knew me and like should we hire
- 1:22:44this guy so like I gave I think a fair
- 1:22:47but good review but it's like that's for
- 1:22:48your approval yeah that's how small the
- 1:22:50world is like this dude is like yo Billy
- 1:22:51is done [ __ ] him and this is a
- 1:22:53middle-aged guy is now applying for a
- 1:22:55job and just doesn't realize that like
- 1:22:56I'm not the only say but I definitely
- 1:22:58had
- 1:22:59you know serious weight in that decision
- 1:23:00which is crazy how the world where
- 1:23:02people are pretty quick to burn Bridges
- 1:23:03and for sure maybe sometimes it
- 1:23:04shouldn't for sure it's like dude it's
- 1:23:06just not worth it what's your mental
- 1:23:08state been like like since you got out
- 1:23:09of jail like you say like the comments
- 1:23:11kind of bother you and stuff like is it
- 1:23:13tough to overcome something as like
- 1:23:15crazy and viral like that's what
- 1:23:17happened to you yeah I want like good
- 1:23:19friends but not a lot of good friends
- 1:23:21and I think before I wanted to have like
- 1:23:23100 people around and I thought I was a
- 1:23:24man because like I had 100 fake friends
- 1:23:26now I want like six really good friends
- 1:23:28yeah like that's kind of the goal I mean
- 1:23:30to be honest I think the fire Festival
- 1:23:31comments things and this that's just
- 1:23:33never gonna go away until you do the the
- 1:23:35next Festival never [ __ ] nail it I
- 1:23:37think once you do that they might be
- 1:23:39like wait a minute by the way it doesn't
- 1:23:40matter what it looks like we're all
- 1:23:41going I'm going no for real no matter
- 1:23:43what yeah what people are saying I don't
- 1:23:45care if that fly over [ __ ] is gonna come
- 1:23:46in there
- 1:23:50it's honestly hilarious but if you bang
- 1:23:52the next one then it's like then they'll
- 1:23:54finally shut the [ __ ] yeah yeah there's
- 1:23:55no other way though but I don't think
- 1:23:56you getting engaged with it's gonna it's
- 1:23:58not gonna help you you know reading the
- 1:24:00comments no it's I'm not gonna win like
- 1:24:01I can do something great right now but
- 1:24:04it's not gonna matter it's Gonna Take
- 1:24:05Years and it's gonna take acing a
- 1:24:07festival so no one killed me but like
- 1:24:09there will be one eventually when it
- 1:24:10happens I can't wait till you announce
- 1:24:12it with the dates and [ __ ] now it's dope
- 1:24:15I know I'm sure a lot of people are
- 1:24:17rooting for me to they're like right now
- 1:24:19are you gonna change like how do you
- 1:24:20make this one different when it comes to
- 1:24:21like marketing it are you gonna do like
- 1:24:23do you have a plan for this one I think
- 1:24:26like I had four years to think of
- 1:24:27marketing campaign so let me have the
- 1:24:29marketing
- 1:24:30but I mean you switch it up like because
- 1:24:32now there's a lot of critics out there
- 1:24:34yeah there's not going to be 20 super
- 1:24:36models there I think I have a cooler
- 1:24:37idea but Logistics I need help marketing
- 1:24:39like in my four year plan coming up boys
- 1:24:41and like yeah you got us yeah there you
- 1:24:43go
- 1:24:45like we're just so early and like
- 1:24:50the people in the Bahamas are [ __ ]
- 1:24:52awesome and I know there's been a lot of
- 1:24:54reports about like various things there
- 1:24:55like and I've talked about like wanting
- 1:24:57to have a couple of solid friends like
- 1:24:58the support there is amazing and like my
- 1:25:01business partner has gone back a couple
- 1:25:02of times like
- 1:25:04are their doors are open there's houses
- 1:25:06there's Villas like they want us there
- 1:25:08they want to have us there and it's like
- 1:25:09kind of respecting that it's like as
- 1:25:11soon as I'm allowed to go we are ready
- 1:25:12to go and really start building again
- 1:25:14yeah yeah and then well I'm gonna tell
- 1:25:16you in the documentary there's a guy
- 1:25:17there's like a bartender who has your
- 1:25:18back so hard Delroy you're the man
- 1:25:21you're definitely watching this shout
- 1:25:22out to Delray the flip side is there's a
- 1:25:24lot of people saying like are they he
- 1:25:25was saying maybe somebody else said but
- 1:25:27that they were unpaid yeah so is that so
- 1:25:30that's being addressed or the I
- 1:25:32definitely owe people money
- 1:25:34um the last week no one was paid however
- 1:25:36people were paid for the you know the
- 1:25:38four months before that and then for the
- 1:25:40years that we were doing the much
- 1:25:41smaller chips I think my one thing there
- 1:25:43is that like people are there
- 1:25:45essentially paid on a weekly basis so if
- 1:25:47you're not getting paid for four months
- 1:25:48you're not going to work so people were
- 1:25:49paid up until the end yeah however that
- 1:25:51last week we did hire more people
- 1:25:53because we're trying to get all hands on
- 1:25:55decks it's certainly money is owed there
- 1:25:56and you know paying that back is super
- 1:25:58super important to me
- 1:26:01I just asked because it's like you do
- 1:26:03think you're going to be welcome back
- 1:26:05with open arms but yeah do you think
- 1:26:07that old people money and [ __ ] but like
- 1:26:09dude I I owe you but like what's worse
- 1:26:10like saying hey I'm too scared to go or
- 1:26:12like hey I'm here guys I really [ __ ]
- 1:26:14up and listen I only made this much
- 1:26:16money this year and here's here's your
- 1:26:17percentage sure I think it's a better
- 1:26:19way but do you think you gave like a bad
- 1:26:20name to like the Bahamas at all and like
- 1:26:23they were yeah do you think they feel
- 1:26:25like culturally disrespected like at all
- 1:26:27or no I'm sure some people feel that way
- 1:26:29I hope that people through the marketing
- 1:26:31just like realize the best part of the
- 1:26:33marketing was like the natural beauty of
- 1:26:35these outer islands and we weren't
- 1:26:36focused on like the main islands that
- 1:26:38has all the tourists like these are the
- 1:26:39islands of the population of 10 20 50
- 1:26:41100 people so I think they got some
- 1:26:44increased tourism from it and people
- 1:26:45just realized like how beautiful these
- 1:26:47islands really are and yes I know there
- 1:26:49are guys I go out there and I promise
- 1:26:51guys like I will do my best and I can't
- 1:26:52promise any dollar amount but even if
- 1:26:54it's 20 and a month to pay it like I
- 1:26:56will pay it and we'll we'll go step by
- 1:26:58step I like it I don't know how much you
- 1:27:00think you are in the Bahamas he's fishy
- 1:27:02you know you know it's all about to
- 1:27:04happen there and then they're just gonna
- 1:27:04be like yo Billy like welcome back like
- 1:27:06how am I saying like I'm just singing
- 1:27:07from devil they might swing on it guys
- 1:27:09don't don't back channel so I get to
- 1:27:11team when we land soon
- 1:27:13I don't know yeah no dude like listen
- 1:27:16like I think that's why the first trip
- 1:27:18is going to be so so crazy that's why
- 1:27:19he's trying to bring us
- 1:27:21[ __ ] you are
- 1:27:34paying all the money
- 1:27:36that's actually a good ass idea it's a
- 1:27:39big video that'd be awesome and they're
- 1:27:41getting hit by a hurricane right that's
- 1:27:43why I'm asking how much you owe you
- 1:27:44think um I really in the Bahamas that's
- 1:27:47an exercise I started doing and the
- 1:27:49numbers are just like to go fund me like
- 1:27:51I said I gotta earn it I got it like
- 1:27:53it's all like Bahamas work you can't do
- 1:27:55a GoFundMe to get that money back I'd
- 1:27:56rather earn it got it is it in the Mills
- 1:27:59or hundreds of thousands I think the
- 1:28:01Bahamas is probably a couple hundred
- 1:28:02thousand dollars but like once again I'm
- 1:28:04not you can come up with that's not that
- 1:28:05bad yeah but like dude Hurricane's
- 1:28:07hitting there right now so I think if
- 1:28:08there's any like if I earn any money
- 1:28:09next week you know whatever I'm a lot to
- 1:28:11pay to them I will certainly we could do
- 1:28:12like a merch drop or some [ __ ] and then
- 1:28:14use all the money and I've got to pay it
- 1:28:15back to the Bahamas workers I mean if
- 1:28:18it's all bartenders and [ __ ] here we go
- 1:28:20yeah stocks I'm happy do people happy
- 1:28:23Dad Bahamas shirts do people like see
- 1:28:25you when you're walking on the streets
- 1:28:27so people know who you are so it's like
- 1:28:28they throw [ __ ] at them so no super
- 1:28:30interesting is that like right when I
- 1:28:32got back to New York after the festival
- 1:28:34people are [ __ ] screaming at me and
- 1:28:36streets like that all these balls and
- 1:28:39now like I'm sure some people stare at
- 1:28:40me and hit me but everybody's been super
- 1:28:41nice so it's kind of like
- 1:28:43that's like heartwarming in a certain
- 1:28:44way like I think there's like some
- 1:28:45understanding that like hey it's been
- 1:28:47five years and yeah you were a total
- 1:28:49[ __ ] [ __ ] for many years but like
- 1:28:50and we're not soul but maybe there's
- 1:28:53something more you can I guess time is
- 1:28:55everything
- 1:28:56yeah that's exactly I haven't left New
- 1:29:00York so if I walk down in our city I
- 1:29:01have no idea but I think so you've been
- 1:29:03out like out and about in public gone
- 1:29:04out like a little bit like I went out
- 1:29:06one night like out so far it was how was
- 1:29:09that dude it was crazy you should pull
- 1:29:10up on us tomorrow night we're hosting on
- 1:29:11a club where are you going bounce oh no
- 1:29:14they're gonna kill me
- 1:29:18I guess
- 1:29:21so I'll say Benny from The Bounce was
- 1:29:23always super supportive and he actually
- 1:29:24went to jail too so I think he gets it
- 1:29:26so yeah I love to come and to bounce and
- 1:29:28shout out to Benny I haven't talked to
- 1:29:29you in five years but I know you've been
- 1:29:30through the ringer as well on came back
- 1:29:32can't go to bounds I haven't talked to
- 1:29:34Benny but one of the owners of the
- 1:29:36bounce in five years was he an investor
- 1:29:37no but you're doing with the federal
- 1:29:39jail but he came back strong so I I
- 1:29:41appreciate his uh so we got to talk to
- 1:29:42Benny tomorrow yeah wait would you pull
- 1:29:44up with us though or no yeah I'll come
- 1:29:45tomorrow
- 1:29:46okay let's go to the UFC take me to the
- 1:29:48UFC and I'll come to back it's on him
- 1:29:49he's the U.S we'll ask Dana
- 1:29:52oh [ __ ]
- 1:29:54wait didn't you there's a there's a
- 1:29:56thing that actually one of our people
- 1:29:58said that he was probably there with you
- 1:30:00that night but that you went to bounce
- 1:30:01the night before you went to jail
- 1:30:03uh I went to bounce like a month or two
- 1:30:05before I went to jail uh it was one of
- 1:30:07the last clubs I went to for sure for
- 1:30:10sure is it a good a good spot uh bounce
- 1:30:12is fun yeah he knows what he's doing
- 1:30:13like he knows how to you know he's a
- 1:30:15great like he's a professional this is
- 1:30:17why you're on bond though right well I'm
- 1:30:18Bond yeah Bond bail whatever I think
- 1:30:20it's called Bond so are you are you
- 1:30:21nervous at all are you how like how hard
- 1:30:22were you going at that point dude it was
- 1:30:24just the worst time ever because like
- 1:30:25you never knew when it was gonna end it
- 1:30:27wasn't like oh on this date you're going
- 1:30:28to jail it's like every month it just
- 1:30:31kept getting delayed so are you going
- 1:30:32crazy yourself being like yo this could
- 1:30:34be my last time I didn't have any money
- 1:30:35so it's like you're at the bar I wasn't
- 1:30:37like no I wasn't at the bar I should
- 1:30:41have been um I don't really have any
- 1:30:42money yeah so it's like it wasn't like
- 1:30:44going that crazy but it was but it
- 1:30:47sucked it was like I don't know what was
- 1:30:48worse like being the the guy simping
- 1:30:50like paying for the plane for everybody
- 1:30:51or being the guy with like no money not
- 1:30:53knowing when you're going to jail still
- 1:30:54trying to have fun like it's both like a
- 1:30:56shitty life experience how hard was that
- 1:30:58to adapt to when you had no money to
- 1:30:59spend it was hard like I got more
- 1:31:01trouble because like I just didn't know
- 1:31:03how to adapt I know how to be honest
- 1:31:05right like I couldn't like I didn't have
- 1:31:06the balls to be like yeah I'm broke
- 1:31:09like I didn't like I couldn't find pride
- 1:31:11in that
- 1:31:11just kept getting me [ __ ] up it's like
- 1:31:13I I'm not gonna No One's Gonna talk to
- 1:31:15me if I'm broke so I need to pretend
- 1:31:16like I still you know can do what I was
- 1:31:18doing six months ago yeah that was
- 1:31:20[ __ ] up so you think jail ultimately
- 1:31:21did it did would help you realize that
- 1:31:23that could be okay best thing like ever
- 1:31:25to happen to me and like I wish it was
- 1:31:26two years and not four but I know I
- 1:31:28deserved you know what I got like so
- 1:31:31incredible in terms of the experiences
- 1:31:32yeah were there any crazy things that
- 1:31:35you were doing while you were on bond to
- 1:31:36make money
- 1:31:37yeah I was dude I was [ __ ] around it
- 1:31:39was bad like I was just trying to hustle
- 1:31:41and I thought I could still like pull
- 1:31:43things off then I realized like no one
- 1:31:45was taking my calls I just kept getting
- 1:31:46what were you doing to like get by so
- 1:31:49magnesis had been giving people like
- 1:31:51access to different events and like you
- 1:31:53know different like group Gatherings and
- 1:31:54experiences for years and so I kept
- 1:31:57trying to sell these experiences that I
- 1:31:59might have had access to before but like
- 1:32:00didn't have them currently can you give
- 1:32:01us some example yeah so the Met Gala for
- 1:32:04example so like my dumb ass sold I don't
- 1:32:06know how many tickets like to the Met
- 1:32:07Gala I don't know if I maybe a handful
- 1:32:09when I was on bond you know thinking
- 1:32:11that hey I knew one of the brands
- 1:32:13sponsoring it they'll give me a few
- 1:32:14seats at their table like no problem not
- 1:32:16realizing like I tried to call them and
- 1:32:17they just like dude go [ __ ] yourself
- 1:32:19like what do you think you're doing I
- 1:32:20was like so detached from reality just
- 1:32:22like kept getting in trouble were they
- 1:32:24the tickets sold at that point yeah they
- 1:32:26were oh [ __ ] yeah so I [ __ ] up did
- 1:32:28they add that to yeah you know like I
- 1:32:30think that took me from literally
- 1:32:31getting like a year or two to getting a
- 1:32:33six year sentence I'm like oh
- 1:32:34deserveably but like that [ __ ] me up
- 1:32:37whoa [ __ ] yeah what's what's a Mech Ally
- 1:32:40ticket cost
- 1:32:41we don't get invited to [ __ ] like that
- 1:32:42so yeah I mean like I think like it's
- 1:32:45semi-public great but for if you pay you
- 1:32:47know 100 000 hundred thousand dollars a
- 1:32:49brand you'll get a table and you can
- 1:32:50have a 150k for a table with the mecca
- 1:32:52what the [ __ ] that's lame as hell [ __ ]
- 1:32:54that yeah did you sell one of the tables
- 1:32:56I didn't sell a table I could never get
- 1:32:58it listen I didn't have those tickets
- 1:32:59right I thought it could convince one
- 1:33:00but what did you sell them for dude I
- 1:33:02was [ __ ] I was selling them for
- 1:33:03thousands of dollars when you know I was
- 1:33:05like underselling them trying to make
- 1:33:06money you know I was so [ __ ] wrong it
- 1:33:08was terrible so you get you get your 10
- 1:33:10bands and then what do you do start
- 1:33:11calling these Brands and then they're
- 1:33:13screening my calls but then you go to
- 1:33:14balance and get bottle service or no uh
- 1:33:16why are you trying to tie them up that's
- 1:33:18fun no it's like dude like I'm like I'm
- 1:33:20nothing yeah like yeah like literally
- 1:33:22yes and but yeah I was wrong and like I
- 1:33:25did have friends too yeah you know still
- 1:33:27believe in me that's what's [ __ ] up is
- 1:33:29your boys were reaping the benefits but
- 1:33:31not going down with you I know I mean
- 1:33:37these [ __ ] in here the guys who got
- 1:33:39the most no no okay the guys who got the
- 1:33:42most free [ __ ] were the ones who like
- 1:33:43ditched me the fastest but the people
- 1:33:45but the people who worked the hardest
- 1:33:46and got the least were the ones who like
- 1:33:48stood by the most well that's a
- 1:33:50personality trait yeah it's a
- 1:33:51personality yeah man yeah I'm sure you
- 1:33:53guys have seen that in different
- 1:33:54situations on a much larger scale but
- 1:33:56it's just like
- 1:33:57that's life so do we talk about what the
- 1:33:59treasure hunt is or yeah so hiding 99 of
- 1:34:03these in these bottles you know in
- 1:34:05different cities
- 1:34:06and everybody who finds the bottle is
- 1:34:08going to be invited back to the Bahamas
- 1:34:10we took the first winners back last
- 1:34:11weekend and then they'll also be invited
- 1:34:13to participate in the larger treasure
- 1:34:15hunt and I can't tell you guys who the
- 1:34:16grand prize is yet but it'll be a larger
- 1:34:18part of the pirate story in the future
- 1:34:19so this is actually bottle number three
- 1:34:21so there's now 96 96 left they'll be
- 1:34:24hiding out there are they hidden right
- 1:34:26now uh we hid the first two that were
- 1:34:27found this is the third one we have not
- 1:34:29hit the fourth one yet so
- 1:34:31across all states in the US we've only
- 1:34:33done New York so far it will be
- 1:34:35expanding different cities
- 1:34:39so it gets you a free trip weekend trip
- 1:34:41back to the Bahamas and then you're
- 1:34:43officially like part of the larger
- 1:34:44treasure hunt and the grand prize which
- 1:34:46I just can't like promise yet is way
- 1:34:48bigger than a free trip but it's like a
- 1:34:50really cool how many people do you get
- 1:34:51in that because he's gotten better
- 1:34:52there's only 99 bucks growing wow yeah
- 1:34:54that's that's a one percent
- 1:34:59well he's saying free trip though that's
- 1:35:0299 free trips oh yeah yeah but it might
- 1:35:04take us but it might take me three or
- 1:35:06four years okay okay
- 1:35:08we've taken one we've taken one group
- 1:35:10went really really well I'm like dude
- 1:35:13anybody can reach out to them it was
- 1:35:14like totally done like honestly and they
- 1:35:16had a great time and we might need
- 1:35:17another month before we release the next
- 1:35:19one so like three months yeah like we're
- 1:35:20we're in no rush okay
- 1:35:24no rush point fingers but like what if
- 1:35:26Brad finds the one in California and he
- 1:35:28sells it to somebody for five dude you
- 1:35:30can't do that man
- 1:35:31he would do that I don't think you can't
- 1:35:34sell I can't sell that I need Brad My
- 1:35:35Bodyguard when I land so we're gonna
- 1:35:36give him whatever need to sell that for
- 1:35:385K real quick man yeah
- 1:35:41still yeah I want to go soon yeah I'd
- 1:35:44love for you guys to come I mean I can't
- 1:35:45wait to I've been dreaming of going back
- 1:35:47there like imagine like months and
- 1:35:48months in Solitaire like Bahamas Bahamas
- 1:35:50I got the [ __ ] go what are you
- 1:35:52excited about that place that you love
- 1:35:53so much the adventure and like it's like
- 1:35:55a playground
- 1:35:56you land there in the middle of nowhere
- 1:35:58on a Runway and yes there are like
- 1:36:00cities there as well but I really like
- 1:36:02these like outer Islands to land on a
- 1:36:04Runway the warmest people and it's like
- 1:36:06the world is your oyster like what do
- 1:36:07you want to do just go do it
- 1:36:09it's like a vacation place though right
- 1:36:11but it's like you're not talking about
- 1:36:13Bahamas like we like we're not getting
- 1:36:14married you're not going to Nobu with
- 1:36:17the Atlantis it's like you're [ __ ]
- 1:36:18out there like you're on an eye it's one
- 1:36:20of the random Islands you want a lobster
- 1:36:21you're you're diving with a spear and
- 1:36:22catching the lobster have you done that
- 1:36:24even a spirit no lobster for sure like
- 1:36:26you Spirit Lobster the coolest part is
- 1:36:28it brings people together like have you
- 1:36:30scared of lobster I feared a lobster but
- 1:36:32like stani if like we don't know each
- 1:36:33other we know each other like this we go
- 1:36:34land there and we go out alone on jet
- 1:36:36skis at night go [ __ ] night diving
- 1:36:38catch some fish we go back and cook it
- 1:36:39like we're boys listen yeah I'm gonna
- 1:36:41tell you this right now some cool [ __ ]
- 1:36:42I'm gonna tell you this right now when
- 1:36:43we get out there [ __ ] Lobster I'm
- 1:36:46Gonna Make You Spirit Lobster 100 okay
- 1:36:48yeah because you're not spiritual
- 1:36:49lobster no but he said he could if that
- 1:36:51motherfucker's lying to me you're gonna
- 1:36:52find out right away straight up if I
- 1:36:55can't fear a lobster then I you know
- 1:36:56whatever whatever what other crazy
- 1:36:58adventure [ __ ] besides beer and lobster
- 1:37:00like you fight for food foreign
- 1:37:10you guys are crazy I love it is there
- 1:37:13any other crazy adventure [ __ ] you do I
- 1:37:15think it's cool is that there's like so
- 1:37:16many islands and they all have their own
- 1:37:17culture so it's like hey you're having
- 1:37:19fun at night at like a bonfire like yo
- 1:37:21let's [ __ ] pitch black there's
- 1:37:23beautiful stars there's no like light
- 1:37:25pollution right let's go hop on some jet
- 1:37:27skis and go like find a random Island
- 1:37:28and go and maybe someone's there maybe
- 1:37:30someone's not but like you take a girl
- 1:37:31you take a friend like you're bonding
- 1:37:33and that's how when you bring you know
- 1:37:35the people who are who's who of the
- 1:37:37modeling world or the music world down
- 1:37:38there you just connect in a different
- 1:37:40level and you have business ideas you
- 1:37:42have like relationship ideas and the way
- 1:37:44people connect I think it's like that
- 1:37:45drives you you do that one weekend it's
- 1:37:47like [ __ ] like those bonds are addicting
- 1:37:50like that's like the drug that you want
- 1:37:51to go back for more of
- 1:37:53interesting yeah so that four months of
- 1:37:55putting together firefest that's
- 1:37:57the most action you've seen like with
- 1:38:00chicks oh here we go uh actually no like
- 1:38:02seriously no no I was just like trying I
- 1:38:05think like
- 1:38:07smart girl that was your play though
- 1:38:08bring a girl to the Bahamas
- 1:38:12the plan was your cheat code for sure
- 1:38:14right the plane was 100 it was the trick
- 1:38:16where he does the [ __ ] zero gravity
- 1:38:17that's the one where he's trying but I'm
- 1:38:19realizing like that's the setup if I'm
- 1:38:21zero gravitying with this girl and have
- 1:38:23like a yacht and like literally three
- 1:38:25islands rented and things aren't working
- 1:38:27like the problem is probably me right
- 1:38:28like there's like a bigger issue going
- 1:38:29on yeah did that ever happen where you
- 1:38:31were in your head like yo what more can
- 1:38:33I do for sure and it's like depressing
- 1:38:35but then you don't realize it's like
- 1:38:36this is personal relationship for you
- 1:38:39guys right now I was like bonding that's
- 1:38:40bonding right there that's dope keep
- 1:38:41asking those questions no [ __ ] no dude
- 1:38:44you guys are made
- 1:38:46personal advice
- 1:38:50it's crazy though just like yeah I was a
- 1:38:53[ __ ] do you have any any other crazy
- 1:38:55things any final words
- 1:38:58give us the craziest [ __ ] ever yeah dude
- 1:39:02all right let me let me Crack one happy
- 1:39:04Dad here go ahead yeah
- 1:39:06give me a theme and I'll and I'll I
- 1:39:08think anything about the models or
- 1:39:10anything would go crazy I know we talked
- 1:39:11about that already there's got to be
- 1:39:13someone who was like
- 1:39:15entitled they're like pissed you off or
- 1:39:17wanted more or some [ __ ] yep
- 1:39:19did you ever personally interact with
- 1:39:20like Kendall
- 1:39:22or is it just all through business
- 1:39:24I just feel like a certain [ __ ] he can't
- 1:39:26say it sounds like
- 1:39:27dude there's just like so much I wish I
- 1:39:29could share because it's legal [ __ ] well
- 1:39:32you're good now you did your time but
- 1:39:34now it's yeah and I know but it's also
- 1:39:36like personal stuff right like [ __ ] it
- 1:39:38bro you gotta find your pride somewhere
- 1:39:39right let me [ __ ] out
- 1:39:42yeah dude [ __ ] right hold a fake
- 1:39:43Festival do it again [ __ ] that
- 1:39:46run it back one time yeah I'm kidding I
- 1:39:49don't know but give us give us something
- 1:39:50that you've never told before yeah and
- 1:39:51then we'll close out okay I mean this is
- 1:39:53not like interesting but I think like
- 1:39:54the first ever USC at MSG was November
- 1:39:57of 2016 and that was right in like the
- 1:39:59midst of our trips I think that was like
- 1:40:00one of the best nights of my life we
- 1:40:01brought like a bunch of the fire Talent
- 1:40:03there and that led to like the craziest
- 1:40:05fire weekend so it's kind of coming full
- 1:40:07circle been in jail for a while but it's
- 1:40:09kind of cool to see the UFC were you in
- 1:40:11Dana's room MSG no dude I just like
- 1:40:13[ __ ] of course I paid four times too
- 1:40:16much for a bunch of ringside seats and
- 1:40:17yeah and of course but solid here is my
- 1:40:20stupid mentality how long ago was that
- 1:40:22November 2016. it was the first time
- 1:40:25ever at MSG dude it was [ __ ] electric
- 1:40:27and what fight was it uh it was I think
- 1:40:29it was McGregor I'm totally spacing who
- 1:40:31he fought but like it was a time in my
- 1:40:33letter if you got his name in there yeah
- 1:40:34it was like the who's who of like the
- 1:40:35entertainment world but like it was just
- 1:40:37like it was wild and you know that was
- 1:40:39like I was 24. damn yeah how good did
- 1:40:43you feel at that point when you're
- 1:40:44flexing I like we were doing a trip the
- 1:40:46next weekend so I brought a whole bunch
- 1:40:48of the Town we're about to take to the
- 1:40:49trip and I was like I thought I was you
- 1:40:50know
- 1:40:51that was like yo I'm setting the bar
- 1:40:53really [ __ ] high
- 1:40:56for a party I think like no like in
- 1:40:58front of the chicks like you're like Yo
- 1:40:59dude like how do I one up
- 1:41:01McGregor ringside dude this is really
- 1:41:03personal yeah I know keep going though
- 1:41:05yeah no I'm just curious like yeah no go
- 1:41:07for it but they just don't care right
- 1:41:09they can sense when you're just trying
- 1:41:10too hard and it's like not attractive I
- 1:41:12think like I love this thank you I
- 1:41:14appreciate that no it's true right
- 1:41:16you're very right yeah go ahead tell
- 1:41:17them look at him when you say it you go
- 1:41:18through this too bro so shut the [ __ ] I
- 1:41:19don't go through the [ __ ] you're going I
- 1:41:20know you go through the [ __ ] like I met
- 1:41:21much cooler battles
- 1:41:23yeah he does your girl had a Birkin bag
- 1:41:26the other day I was like you're crazy
- 1:41:28that's your that's the first mistake
- 1:41:33oh you know what treasure hunt at Brad's
- 1:41:35house
- 1:41:37number four guys
- 1:41:46who from your crew is gonna come come to
- 1:41:49the first trip to the Bahamas bro I
- 1:41:51think we're all in to go and we'll see
- 1:41:53what happens should we ask Steve right
- 1:41:54now yeah okay and confirm Facebook you
- 1:41:57want to FaceTime him
- 1:42:02no he's in and we already know he's in I
- 1:42:04mean we know he's in Celine would have
- 1:42:06no idea but he'll go it's not even gonna
- 1:42:09be like what but get but get a FaceTime
- 1:42:11from Steve here you hit him steiny my
- 1:42:13phone's at two what can we do to make
- 1:42:15this thing pop so it goes It goes as one
- 1:42:17of your well I think we got to go so we
- 1:42:18gotta go soon at least for like when you
- 1:42:20return I mean you're not gonna return
- 1:42:21for a year dude like I'm pushing to go
- 1:42:23ASAP it's Gotta like you know hold on
- 1:42:25we'll do a nail video there yeah for
- 1:42:28sure and we'll film it I mean we'll make
- 1:42:29it we'll be back to the Bahamas with you
- 1:42:30for the first time
- 1:42:31be funny can't wait
- 1:42:35how long are you guys in town for until
- 1:42:37Sunday nice yeah okay so you're partying
- 1:42:40at bounce tomorrow night bounce tomorrow
- 1:42:41night UFC nice we're doing a big happy
- 1:42:44dad meet up oh yeah during the day yeah
- 1:42:46Brooklyn cool steve Steve's end for sure
- 1:42:49but yeah yeah we'll see we'll bring the
- 1:42:51whole Squad Steve Celine
- 1:42:54we're live on the potty is Steve next to
- 1:42:56you
- 1:42:58okay Classics let's go okay wait Selena
- 1:43:02I got my second party
- 1:43:07nice do you want a picture real quick
- 1:43:09hey what's going on
- 1:43:12hey that's Steve's
- 1:43:15cool so yeah I mean
- 1:43:18it's gonna be great yeah I [ __ ] up I
- 1:43:21was wrong
- 1:43:23no I mean I should do it on purpose I
- 1:43:25like lie to investors to try to get
- 1:43:27money to do it but I certainly try to do
- 1:43:29the event and just like didn't
- 1:43:30understand what I was doing did you do
- 1:43:32it on purpose
- 1:43:34yeah
- 1:43:35so I mean trying to like make it right
- 1:43:37and really looking forward to kind of
- 1:43:39getting back to the Bahamas and making
- 1:43:40an impact there so would love for you
- 1:43:42guys to all come with me for my first
- 1:43:43trip back I just can't promise like
- 1:43:45what's gonna happen to me but you guys
- 1:43:46will definitely have a good time so I
- 1:43:48think that's what we're calling to
- 1:43:49extend the invite exactly and hopefully
- 1:43:51get a cool group to come back with me
- 1:43:53you're inviting us yeah for sure
- 1:43:57you win
- 1:44:00there you go all right
- 1:44:03thank you so yes pass you back to steiny
- 1:44:05but yeah nice meeting you and yeah
- 1:44:06thanks guys yeah all right well this is
- 1:44:08it bounce tomorrow night yeah don't fly
- 1:44:10are you gonna come you're looking shaky
- 1:44:11a little bit right okay since you've
- 1:44:14been out no no I'll come okay have you
- 1:44:16shown face here since you've been I
- 1:44:17bounce no no I mean I'd love to go out
- 1:44:18though I mean I'd love to go out I
- 1:44:20haven't gone out a lot I will come
- 1:44:22um yeah uh who's buying
- 1:44:25I don't have [ __ ] so for a long night
- 1:44:28guys I'll sneak into happy that case
- 1:44:30that you guys guys
- 1:44:32appreciate it bro yeah thanks bro thank
- 1:44:34you guys if you have any uh Upper Deck
- 1:44:36seat to the UFC hit your boy up I'm here
- 1:44:38hell yeah let's get [ __ ] thank you man
- 1:44:40thank you
- 1:44:43guys yeah
- 1:44:49thank you guys oh yeah
- 1:44:51[Music]
- 1:45:05all right
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