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Fyre Festival's Billy McFarland on Untold Stories About Jail, Partying with Models and Scamming! — Transcript

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  17. 0:35[Applause]
  18. 0:36[Music]
  19. 0:37[Applause]
  20. 0:54I flew New York just to talk to you
  21. 0:57let's talk
  22. 0:58yeah
  23. 1:09oh you're wait yeah okay you're right
  24. 1:11we'll deal with that later I have your
  25. 1:13watch but I know let's talk about
  26. 1:15anything if I piss you off I'm not gonna
  27. 1:17get it back no no I haven't watched for
  28. 1:19a month bro well it wasn't planned it
  29. 1:21wasn't by plan just sitting in my bag I
  30. 1:23got you 100 but more importantly let's
  31. 1:25talk about you
  32. 1:26let's talk about me what's going on in
  33. 1:28your life right now man
  34. 1:29[ __ ] nah
  35. 1:31you know living living the dream living
  36. 1:33living the dream really it's a real
  37. 1:35dread
  38. 1:36traveling happy Dad happy Dad baby let's
  39. 1:39go
  40. 1:40yo you're so stupid I want to roast you
  41. 1:43so bad all the time nah I'm done with it
  42. 1:46I'm done with it honestly I got my first
  43. 1:47dub too last week I don't know if you
  44. 1:49heard you got your first dub yeah on
  45. 1:51what the Sophia video you actually got a
  46. 1:53duh I got a dub all the comments first
  47. 1:55time in life first time he's ever gonna
  48. 1:57dub very Ultra uncommon rare dub
  49. 2:00extremely 22k likes yeah it never will
  50. 2:04happen again now he's got to tell you
  51. 2:05taking catching dubs is way better than
  52. 2:07catching else I don't know man because
  53. 2:08like elves kind of fits you I know
  54. 2:10that's a problem I know I don't I can't
  55. 2:13take else anymore nobody I think a part
  56. 2:15of like that you've taken so many L's
  57. 2:17makes the the W's just maybe feel a
  58. 2:20little bit better bro it's insane
  59. 2:21because if you got a ton of Dubs all the
  60. 2:23time it's just like it also wouldn't be
  61. 2:24another week easy maybe daily probably
  62. 2:27like two two or three a day I mean dude
  63. 2:30you'd say some [ __ ] that we'd cut out of
  64. 2:32this podcast because like you were like
  65. 2:33bro please don't put that in like that I
  66. 2:35[ __ ] up yeah wait what was the one
  67. 2:36thing I took out oh yeah yeah
  68. 2:39thank God you really took that out huh
  69. 2:41yes can we please run that clip no that
  70. 2:44was the two or three days of depression
  71. 2:45from seeing what people said about that
  72. 2:47yeah you would have they would have
  73. 2:49funny bro but I would take a huge
  74. 2:52massive out for that that would have
  75. 2:53been one of the biggest sales you've
  76. 2:54ever taken it would have got clipped
  77. 2:55seriously I'm not even playing it would
  78. 2:57have been clipped God millions of views
  79. 2:59which would have been funny though like
  80. 3:01on Tick Tock it would have went viral
  81. 3:02guaranteed it was one of the funniest
  82. 3:04things I've ever that's why I want to
  83. 3:05post the Drake thing but I'm not gonna
  84. 3:06post it because I'm gonna get roasted
  85. 3:07why not
  86. 3:08so I'm going to get roasted for that who
  87. 3:10cares
  88. 3:11it's kind of part of your character it's
  89. 3:13funny man I know it's my favorite that's
  90. 3:14my favorite it's drone right now too so
  91. 3:16we're interviewing
  92. 3:17McFarland mcfarley right yeah what the
  93. 3:20[ __ ] Kyle I'm going to bed after this
  94. 3:22straight up I literally flew in I'm
  95. 3:25tired I didn't sleep at all last night I
  96. 3:26flew straight in for this I thought we
  97. 3:27were doing a different pod be honest
  98. 3:30today I thought it was a different pot
  99. 3:33well you're you being the best in the
  100. 3:35game I'm sure yeah everything literally
  101. 3:37off top I'm sure you can oh is that this
  102. 3:40is like you trying to flex this right
  103. 3:42now this is like 100 until 15 minutes
  104. 3:43ago obviously I'm still gonna crush it I
  105. 3:46text you I was talking about the power
  106. 3:47we're gonna do and I was like Oh I
  107. 3:49thought it was you know the other guy
  108. 3:50that we had talked about and then you
  109. 3:52guys just put it on me last minute I was
  110. 3:54like man what do you know about this
  111. 3:55dude
  112. 3:56uh uh I mean it's a quick quick Google
  113. 3:58search uh he's a con artist apparently
  114. 4:01so that's what they say that's what they
  115. 4:03say I want to ask him about it the media
  116. 4:05controls a narrative though you know
  117. 4:06that yeah which isn't yeah a little
  118. 4:07interesting it'd be cool to get a
  119. 4:09different perspective on the whole thing
  120. 4:10for sure but I mean we do know that it
  121. 4:12like it did end terribly
  122. 4:20yeah it's conviction so
  123. 4:23but I'm excited to hear about it for
  124. 4:25sure what's new with you anything
  125. 4:28complicated my life a little bit you
  126. 4:30know aren't you opening another gym yeah
  127. 4:31we are we're opening the gym
  128. 4:33um in Encino havenhurst and Ventura
  129. 4:35it'll be open in the next can be open
  130. 4:37the next three weeks but we're probably
  131. 4:38gonna do like a grand opening sometime
  132. 4:40like mid to late December you know like
  133. 4:42a New Year's thing January
  134. 4:44I'm excited about that is that closer to
  135. 4:46your crib a little further away from the
  136. 4:48crib but closer to like everyone else
  137. 4:49like in the in the the rest of the
  138. 4:51valley and also like South County so
  139. 4:53people get there faster from the 405.
  140. 4:59can you drink caffeine like that and go
  141. 5:01to bed no I'll be up all night
  142. 5:03but why are you doing it because I need
  143. 5:05to perform just perform dude
  144. 5:08I do have willpower but I'm tired and it
  145. 5:11will make it a lot easier if I just
  146. 5:12drink some of that yeah but then you
  147. 5:14won't sleep it's gonna be up all night
  148. 5:16huh you want to hang out no why we're
  149. 5:19just gonna make it worse every time what
  150. 5:21floor are you on dude don't worry about
  151. 5:22what Flora
  152. 5:24come on hang out you'll be like Brad
  153. 5:26Brad are you up yeah you'd be that guy
  154. 5:29we're just talking about Jake what's
  155. 5:30wrong with that that's what [ __ ]
  156. 5:31friends do bro they hang out yeah well
  157. 5:33not when I'm [ __ ] asleep and you're
  158. 5:35[ __ ] wired on caffeine you're trying
  159. 5:38to pillow talk with me apparently it's
  160. 5:40something you do with your boys no I
  161. 5:41mean if I share a room with somebody on
  162. 5:43a trip then yeah we're the guy you are
  163. 5:45the guy in the car you were saying Jacob
  164. 5:47was you're the guy that's like hey hey
  165. 5:48Brad are you up are you up right Brad
  166. 5:51proud of you I would do that trolling
  167. 5:53purposes
  168. 5:54sincerely because like you'd have some
  169. 5:56sort of Heartache that you want to talk
  170. 5:57about in Illinois and honestly I respect
  171. 5:59what's wrong with the hearts are like
  172. 6:00that dude nothing nothing I respect it I
  173. 6:03know how it feels I do it all the time
  174. 6:04with Jacob
  175. 6:06heart to Hearts where I'm like
  176. 6:08complaining about my life and [ __ ]
  177. 6:09you know is Jacob your go-to guy for
  178. 6:11that do you have a go-to person for that
  179. 6:13well long story short not anymore not
  180. 6:17right now yeah
  181. 6:18at least you had somebody yeah I only
  182. 6:21got that yeah
  183. 6:25let's go
  184. 6:27oh my God you think you're lack of an
  185. 6:29actor like could you do could you do
  186. 6:30fake could you do Tears On Demand uh I
  187. 6:33could think about some stuff that would
  188. 6:34make me emotional yeah on demand but
  189. 6:37I've never done that for the content no
  190. 6:39no I normally just do it because like
  191. 6:41I'm just actually emotional
  192. 6:50look who it is looks good
  193. 6:56you watch it there's a lot of people
  194. 6:58here you fired up
  195. 7:00dude I'm just like I honestly I look at
  196. 7:03all these people I'm like are we rolling
  197. 7:04yeah what's I think we're rolling where
  198. 7:05are we I don't even know where I don't
  199. 7:07know Studio we're here though I just
  200. 7:10wonder if they're getting paid or if
  201. 7:11it's like huh all these people oh yeah
  202. 7:13whatever I don't go [ __ ] what's good I
  203. 7:15just watch these I just watched the
  204. 7:16documentary on the way here it's lit
  205. 7:18I've never seen it before
  206. 7:21I've heard about it but this is the
  207. 7:23first time you've actually got like all
  208. 7:24the details on it or what no I mean I
  209. 7:26heard about it in the news and [ __ ] but
  210. 7:28I for some reason I don't know I just
  211. 7:29never got around to watching it bro you
  212. 7:32low-key would have thrown up a feeder if
  213. 7:33the bag was right what you would have
  214. 7:35thrown up before promoting the event
  215. 7:37yeah if the bag was right what the who
  216. 7:39got it oh Kendall got a big bag right
  217. 7:40what's up bro how are you
  218. 7:43just go we just go for it yeah you just
  219. 7:45jump in yeah [ __ ] it what's up good to
  220. 7:48meet you yes sir so where where where
  221. 7:51are we right now is this where in New
  222. 7:54York wow where in New York where no like
  223. 7:56what is this studio this is obviously a
  224. 7:59nice one that's my friend's Studio oh
  225. 8:00okay sweet yeah he's super nice to host
  226. 8:02us oh yeah thank you guys you can pull
  227. 8:04that out guys like literally first time
  228. 8:06trying a podcast since
  229. 8:09attempting one miserably in jail and
  230. 8:11going to solitary for seven months so
  231. 8:12yeah yeah so this is your first podcast
  232. 8:15no you did that dude like I've been
  233. 8:18trying to do a podcast for five years so
  234. 8:21I hope I have some time today because
  235. 8:22holy [ __ ] okay thanks for choosing
  236. 8:25full-time podcasts this is pretty
  237. 8:26[ __ ] you gotta tell us about the one
  238. 8:27from jail literally went from solitary
  239. 8:29confinement podcast to my favorite in
  240. 8:32the world so literally I just don't
  241. 8:34believe I'm here so seriously thank you
  242. 8:36guys like super super cool yeah huge
  243. 8:38fans what was that one called the one
  244. 8:40that you were doing
  245. 8:41wow so we have these pay phones and we
  246. 8:44got these 15-minute phone calls
  247. 8:46but you had to wait 30 minutes between
  248. 8:48each call
  249. 8:49so I had this podcast host essentially
  250. 8:51fly to my buddy's house and I was
  251. 8:53calling in all day
  252. 8:55we released a trailer on my Instagram I
  253. 8:57have like zero followers like literally
  254. 8:59and an hour after the trailer comes out
  255. 9:01they take me out of my cell and put me
  256. 9:03in solitary confinement for seven months
  257. 9:05because seven months because you're
  258. 9:07doing the podcast because I tried to do
  259. 9:09a podcast so did you get I thought you
  260. 9:11completed an episode or a few right uh I
  261. 9:13think they launched one episode from
  262. 9:14solitary but I had no idea what was
  263. 9:16going on and didn't you know you were
  264. 9:18gonna get caught though like once it got
  265. 9:20out like I was so stupid like
  266. 9:24what was the podcast about so I was
  267. 9:27trying to tell like the past stories got
  268. 9:29it and I felt like hey I could make a
  269. 9:31couple dollars pay some restitution from
  270. 9:32jail like no one pays restitution get to
  271. 9:36work on the rest of the team yeah I
  272. 9:38think that shit's a lot of [ __ ] weird
  273. 9:39yeah it's gonna take me away why not
  274. 9:42start now what was solitary confinement
  275. 9:45like did brutal so first of all it's
  276. 9:48like this long concrete hallway of these
  277. 9:51nine by eight cells so I'm all alone to
  278. 9:53myself and a lawyer starts complaining
  279. 9:55after a few weeks of being alone he's
  280. 9:57like all right McFarland you want a
  281. 9:58selly yeah yeah no problem I hear these
  282. 10:01guys screaming their metal doors oh you
  283. 10:03got bags you got bags so I have no idea
  284. 10:06who bags is this guy comes in he's like
  285. 10:08hey I'm bags they call me bags because
  286. 10:10they got a lot of money I hear all these
  287. 10:12guys screaming that's not true that's
  288. 10:13not true so the guy got into a shootout
  289. 10:16with the cops and lost his colon but
  290. 10:18they never gave him like the Cullen
  291. 10:20backs it's like this is literally my bed
  292. 10:22and that's a toilet he has to [ __ ] every
  293. 10:2430 minutes around the clock but so it's
  294. 10:26not solitary so you're not by yourself
  295. 10:28so you did I did half the time by myself
  296. 10:30and half the time with a cell mate but
  297. 10:31you can't leave yourself so this guy's
  298. 10:33literally taking a [ __ ] every 30 minutes
  299. 10:34for like two months Around the Clock
  300. 10:36just right next to him where I'm
  301. 10:37slipping holy [ __ ] you never get any
  302. 10:40daylight at all that's what solitary is
  303. 10:41due to covid they let us go to a cage
  304. 10:44outside that was you know the size of
  305. 10:46this set for one hour once a week so for
  306. 10:48six days you couldn't leave and you did
  307. 10:50all seven months seven months yeah
  308. 10:52straight out what does that like what
  309. 10:54what does that do to your mind that's
  310. 10:56like a scary [ __ ]
  311. 10:57like I think the worst part how do you
  312. 11:00get through that yeah just like not
  313. 11:01knowing when it was going to end yeah
  314. 11:03and like the cops would [ __ ] with you
  315. 11:04it's like how long am I gonna be here
  316. 11:06like oh you're never getting out of here
  317. 11:07McFarland like [ __ ] you so it's like
  318. 11:09like the mental mind [ __ ] and you just
  319. 11:11start thinking the whole world is
  320. 11:13against you and I have nothing but like
  321. 11:16I would have bet almost every single one
  322. 11:18of those days that I wasn't getting out
  323. 11:19because like you have no one to bounce
  324. 11:21your ideas off of right so like you
  325. 11:22start just going crazy yeah so yeah
  326. 11:24being here well so we're [ __ ] wild
  327. 11:26what'd you do while you were in there I
  328. 11:28wrote you know learn to meditate read a
  329. 11:30lot and dude this guy [ __ ] every 30
  330. 11:33minutes yeah and like we tried to put
  331. 11:35together a game plan for what they want
  332. 11:36to do yep dodging uh dodging bags shout
  333. 11:39out to bags he's a great guy but so his
  334. 11:41bags still locked up all right back's
  335. 11:43got out surely before me so I hope he's
  336. 11:45doing well he's probably [ __ ] right
  337. 11:47now I hope he's watching especially
  338. 11:48right now
  339. 11:50so we gotta we obviously we gotta take
  340. 11:52it back to you know everything that I
  341. 11:53kind of had happened for sure but guys
  342. 11:55can I try happy Dad by the way yeah yeah
  343. 11:56absolutely what uh what what is it like
  344. 11:59when you're you know that you're Googled
  345. 12:01and the first thing that comes up it
  346. 12:02says you're a con artist
  347. 12:05what is that like because how do you do
  348. 12:06business and how do you move forward and
  349. 12:08yeah you know like how would you create
  350. 12:09a deal with someone now where it's like
  351. 12:11they know your past they know your
  352. 12:13history which we'll get into I'm
  353. 12:14assuming I'm sure I guess goes on but
  354. 12:16that right away I'm like you know if I
  355. 12:18was gonna do business with you or do
  356. 12:19anything with you on Google and it's
  357. 12:20like oh this guy's a con artist you know
  358. 12:23so it's I've literally been out for just
  359. 12:25over two months August 30th yeah it's
  360. 12:28like my completion of my sentence damn
  361. 12:31yeah so
  362. 12:32I was sheltered in so many ways right
  363. 12:34because I was in jail for just around
  364. 12:37four years
  365. 12:38a lot of that in solitary a lot of that
  366. 12:40with no box to a phone or any like
  367. 12:41outside communication so I never saw
  368. 12:44these documentaries like I wasn't on
  369. 12:45Google and I talked to friends and
  370. 12:48they're like dude it's going to take you
  371. 12:51longer and people longer to like come to
  372. 12:52terms with what happened and I'm like
  373. 12:54trying to recognize it I had five years
  374. 12:56like since all this went to [ __ ] to like
  375. 12:59feel my own remorse but I just missed
  376. 13:02like this whole Title Wave of [ __ ]
  377. 13:04like I wasn't there to read the DMS And
  378. 13:06The Angry emails right and like friends
  379. 13:07and family were so that's been like a
  380. 13:09big eye-opener to me I'm like oh I'm
  381. 13:11gonna walk out and people are gonna
  382. 13:12remember like I can program and I can
  383. 13:13market so I'm gonna do something cool
  384. 13:15but it's like oh wait I missed years and
  385. 13:18years of just backlash yeah
  386. 13:21so what is it like getting that backlash
  387. 13:22now
  388. 13:23like how do you move forward are you
  389. 13:25meant does it mentally [ __ ] you up or
  390. 13:26are you just like
  391. 13:28I mean in some respect it's like super
  392. 13:29super motivating yeah and I think that
  393. 13:32just meeting with childhood friends like
  394. 13:34since getting out of jail has been the
  395. 13:36biggest mind [ __ ]
  396. 13:38I think in like some respects
  397. 13:40even people who I was close with were
  398. 13:43almost like happy to see the punishment
  399. 13:46I had to go through because they're like
  400. 13:48hey we did everything right we didn't
  401. 13:49break the rules we went to college like
  402. 13:51we didn't [ __ ] up and like why did you
  403. 13:53why were you able to do this kind of
  404. 13:54thing and we weren't because they were
  405. 13:55almost like happy to see me down and a
  406. 13:57lot of the advice I get from those
  407. 13:58people is like dude you just can't do
  408. 14:00anything and it's like they try to
  409. 14:02assign you took the most menial tasks
  410. 14:05whereas you talk to more like
  411. 14:06entrepreneurial people and it's like if
  412. 14:08you just go for it but go for it
  413. 14:09honestly there's no shame so if you fail
  414. 14:12the next time but you do it like
  415. 14:13ethically right and you don't let
  416. 14:15anybody you don't hurt anybody like
  417. 14:16[ __ ] go and do it yeah it takes me
  418. 14:18like this weird like trying to
  419. 14:20understand like people's motivations and
  420. 14:22realizing that very few people out there
  421. 14:24can like give you advice that's best for
  422. 14:26you like they give you advice that is
  423. 14:27best for them what they think is
  424. 14:30possible like very few people even the
  425. 14:32ones who love you are often like the
  426. 14:33most restrained at least in my
  427. 14:35perspective in terms of giving you good
  428. 14:37advice did a lot of people cut ties with
  429. 14:39you for sure and the weirdest thing is
  430. 14:42like who did and who didn't and so many
  431. 14:44who I thought would like be there every
  432. 14:46day just totally disappear and said [ __ ]
  433. 14:48off and people who I thought would be
  434. 14:49the first to run didn't so once again
  435. 14:51like
  436. 14:52total crazy learning experience when did
  437. 14:54you watch so you said you didn't see the
  438. 14:55documentary when did you actually see it
  439. 14:57I never watched them you've never seen
  440. 14:59it no I just watched it for the first
  441. 15:00time oh really on the way how bad I mean
  442. 15:03I don't know it's pretty entertaining
  443. 15:04okay well aren't you curious to see like
  444. 15:05you lost some weight you look good yeah
  445. 15:07that was so fat oh it was bad you did
  446. 15:09lose weight don't you want to see like
  447. 15:11maybe what you think is inaccurate in
  448. 15:12there yeah so I think like when they
  449. 15:14came out I was really early on in my
  450. 15:17sentence and my initial reaction would
  451. 15:19have been like oh that's not true that's
  452. 15:20true and like I don't want to be in that
  453. 15:22mindset where I just couldn't do
  454. 15:24anything about it so I just like try to
  455. 15:26protect myself whether right or wrong I
  456. 15:27think that was my initial response I
  457. 15:30mean you're having a good time in there
  458. 15:31yeah like you're partying you're with
  459. 15:33models and you're in a jet ski a lot on
  460. 15:35a yacht yeah I guess like in your words
  461. 15:37what really happened what really went
  462. 15:39wrong so like if you can take it back a
  463. 15:41little bit Yeah I think that would be
  464. 15:42yeah so yeah what made you want to like
  465. 15:45do that so I started just like
  466. 15:48programming when I was really young I
  467. 15:50was like 9 or 10 years old
  468. 15:51and I almost like viewed it as this
  469. 15:53world with very little rules and I kept
  470. 15:57saying like hey there's this huge
  471. 15:58problem and if I keep trying to push
  472. 16:00this problem I can push like what was
  473. 16:01possible
  474. 16:02start a couple companies in middle
  475. 16:04school and high school sold them went to
  476. 16:07college and basically ran out of the
  477. 16:09cash that I got from selling my early
  478. 16:10companies my first semester of college
  479. 16:12I'm like [ __ ] wait you said you sold a
  480. 16:14company in middle school yeah started my
  481. 16:16first company in seventh grade sold it
  482. 16:18and then you sell it in seventh grade so
  483. 16:21I had a company called your hot site
  484. 16:22it's a funny story I tried to create
  485. 16:24like a private social network for middle
  486. 16:26schools
  487. 16:27so I did it from middle school and five
  488. 16:29days after it launched had like you know
  489. 16:30just like the local Middle School
  490. 16:31buzzing the principal basically called
  491. 16:33and it's like internet's unsafe you got
  492. 16:35to get rid of this website so I went and
  493. 16:37put it up for auction online sold the
  494. 16:40site and years later when I was applying
  495. 16:41for college it was on my resume and like
  496. 16:43the dean of the school was applying for
  497. 16:45pulls it up on his computer and had been
  498. 16:47sold a couple times since then it became
  499. 16:48like this porn site like this porn
  500. 16:49social networking site what did you sell
  501. 16:51it for originally so it wasn't much that
  502. 16:53was a couple thousand dollars but there
  503. 16:54were some there were some settings
  504. 16:59at that point yeah so that was fun and
  505. 17:03just started getting bigger and bigger
  506. 17:04and then basically went to college with
  507. 17:06you know a couple dollars in a suitcase
  508. 17:07and just like went wild and just didn't
  509. 17:10know like what I could do with with
  510. 17:11money right and blew all of it in the
  511. 17:13first semester it's like [ __ ] I gotta
  512. 17:15get back to programming and that started
  513. 17:17you know this eight year run of what
  514. 17:19would eventually become fire in prison
  515. 17:21and then being here
  516. 17:23wait price okay I'm just picturing you
  517. 17:25rocking like a Louis Vuitton backpack I
  518. 17:27didn't know what that was you went
  519. 17:29really far from like Middle School to
  520. 17:30like college and that's a very long time
  521. 17:32like what other companies what other
  522. 17:33involvements did you have that you
  523. 17:35actually made money from the credit card
  524. 17:36yeah the credit card so before all that
  525. 17:38in in high school I guess my biggest win
  526. 17:40before College was a company called 24
  527. 17:42scene I love the TV show 24. so I made a
  528. 17:45Content Network where basically people
  529. 17:47could like share and discuss their
  530. 17:48favorite things about 24. ended up like
  531. 17:51replicating that across like a dozen TV
  532. 17:52shows and sold to a company called buddy
  533. 17:55TV out of Seattle I was 15. but I wasn't
  534. 17:58old enough to like have a bank account
  535. 17:59and like my PayPal account was shut down
  536. 18:02because it was underage
  537. 18:03so I had this like essential middleman
  538. 18:05partner who took the money and he would
  539. 18:07Western Union me cash every two weeks so
  540. 18:09throughout like the last two years of my
  541. 18:11high school I would like you know go to
  542. 18:12the hood or go to this Western Union and
  543. 18:14like get my cash and save it up until
  544. 18:16college and that really set me off
  545. 18:19oh damn Hustler from early and then how
  546. 18:22did you like what started fire so before
  547. 18:26fire I started a company called magnesis
  548. 18:28and what I was trying to do was build a
  549. 18:31black card that was more relevant for
  550. 18:33young kids in cities I was 22 years old
  551. 18:36like doing a startup in New York and all
  552. 18:38the AmEx like travel business perks just
  553. 18:40like weren't relevant to me yet like I
  554. 18:42just wasn't there yet in my life
  555. 18:44so I wanted a black card couldn't get it
  556. 18:46but I also wanted a black card that was
  557. 18:48more relevant for me so I went in
  558. 18:50Alibaba before it was really like
  559. 18:51mainstream and bought this like sheet of
  560. 18:54black metal and just bought like a
  561. 18:55Credit Card Copier literally off Alibaba
  562. 18:57I was in the office for my first startup
  563. 18:59I just copied like my shitty blue like
  564. 19:01Chase debit card with like 80 bucks on
  565. 19:03it onto this black card went and used at
  566. 19:06the pizza place across the street and
  567. 19:07the guy's like behind the counter
  568. 19:08dropping it looking up in the air like
  569. 19:10oh this thing's [ __ ] sweet and I was
  570. 19:12in the second ever we work at the time
  571. 19:14so I started showing the card off to all
  572. 19:16the companies in the we work and people
  573. 19:17wanted to buy it and like magnesis was
  574. 19:19just born before I knew it I was selling
  575. 19:21these black cards open up a couple of
  576. 19:24spaces for members to connect and just
  577. 19:25started building a company they were
  578. 19:26just cards that were just based off of
  579. 19:27existing cards yeah so like the cool
  580. 19:29part was like we took no Financial Risk
  581. 19:31and you could have your Amex with
  582. 19:33whatever your limit on it was or you
  583. 19:35could have your Chase card with 20 bucks
  584. 19:36just visually look cooler too right what
  585. 19:39we got perks too so we had a physical
  586. 19:40space in New York where people can come
  587. 19:43and like hang out and like get together
  588. 19:44work parties then we partner with a lot
  589. 19:47of venues and Brands so like a venue
  590. 19:49would come to us and say hey we'd love
  591. 19:50to host your members for you know a
  592. 19:52nightclub night a concert you know a
  593. 19:54fitness class whatever they would pay us
  594. 19:56we would get a cool experience and
  595. 19:57Market to our customers
  596. 20:01and that was your that was your more
  597. 20:02successful business yeah so Magnus was
  598. 20:04going like magnesis did real Revenue at
  599. 20:06the time and fire like slowly came out
  600. 20:10of magnesis and it really started from
  601. 20:12two ways one I got a call from one of
  602. 20:15our people who was working at the
  603. 20:16townhouse and she's like hey this guy's
  604. 20:18here he works at townhouse it was like I
  605. 20:20remember sorry it was like our member
  606. 20:21space for magnesis okay she's like this
  607. 20:23guy's here he works at Google he says he
  608. 20:25flies planes and I kind of believe him
  609. 20:27like you got to come by so went and met
  610. 20:29this guy and you know still friends this
  611. 20:31day like the smartest guy I've ever met
  612. 20:33he's like yeah I had this little
  613. 20:35four-seater airplane and got like six
  614. 20:37buddies to do too uh we do trips to like
  615. 20:39random Caribbean islands like you should
  616. 20:40totally do it for your members
  617. 20:42so I'm like oh so this is where the idea
  618. 20:44this is where it all started so I'm like
  619. 20:45[ __ ] it let's go like this is amazing
  620. 20:46I've never been on a four-seater
  621. 20:47airplane before and we just take this
  622. 20:49Caravan of four planes like a dozen of
  623. 20:52our magnesis customers and a couple of
  624. 20:53my friends and we start finding these
  625. 20:55islands that like I didn't know existed
  626. 20:57yeah and couldn't have found on the map
  627. 20:59like this is so [ __ ] cool it's like
  628. 21:02love the adventure of like Landing in a
  629. 21:04country in the middle of nowhere it's
  630. 21:06like making it our playground
  631. 21:07and so many of the people we were
  632. 21:09bringing were just like getting together
  633. 21:10like forming businesses like creating
  634. 21:12new relationships and just really
  635. 21:14bonding over these adventures and
  636. 21:15experiences what were you going and
  637. 21:17doing there at that point like you guys
  638. 21:18were just going to the islands and
  639. 21:19chilling island hopping boating around
  640. 21:21scuba diving freediving snorkeling it's
  641. 21:23like you know more like adventury like
  642. 21:25outdoorsy [ __ ] but I don't know what I
  643. 21:26was doing so it's more just like hey how
  644. 21:28can we just push the limits and and see
  645. 21:30what we can get away with and so how'd
  646. 21:31you how'd you meet Ja Rule
  647. 21:33so as a way to get back to uh a lot of
  648. 21:36the magnesis members we started booking
  649. 21:38music artists for concerts yeah and just
  650. 21:40like I'm sure you guys have way way more
  651. 21:42experience but just realized how
  652. 21:43backwards the entire industry was I
  653. 21:45would just be going through so many
  654. 21:47middlemen who were promising me like
  655. 21:48artist X for X dollars and it was all it
  656. 21:51was all a facade you know you go through
  657. 21:53six guys who claim to be the manager but
  658. 21:55they might know someone who doesn't
  659. 21:56really know someone it was like this
  660. 21:58terrible like really backwards business
  661. 22:00so I'm like [ __ ] I can make this [ __ ]
  662. 22:02super transparent let me just make an
  663. 22:04app and I can have artists get a
  664. 22:06notification on their phone for real
  665. 22:07offers and just like say yes or no that
  666. 22:09was how fire was kind of fun we're
  667. 22:11artists like on board for that yeah like
  668. 22:13wait if you entered artists on fire
  669. 22:16um a few other artists they were not
  670. 22:17exclusive so they had regular like
  671. 22:18record labels or agencies or whatever we
  672. 22:20were just like incremental income to it
  673. 22:22and we had a dozen artists that were
  674. 22:24exclusive to fire which basically meant
  675. 22:26that if you called one of these artists
  676. 22:27in theory they were supposed to send you
  677. 22:29through our app to book them
  678. 22:31and did that ever happen yeah so the
  679. 22:33fire app was going for like six months
  680. 22:35and my biggest problem was like I just
  681. 22:37couldn't get away from the Bahamas I
  682. 22:39loved it and I kept doing these magnesis
  683. 22:41member trips and started bringing some
  684. 22:43of fires artists and I had a high school
  685. 22:45friend with me there one weekend and
  686. 22:47he's like dude No One Believes it you're
  687. 22:49doing this like this is incredible and
  688. 22:51we said that the best way to invite
  689. 22:52everybody would be to do a festival so
  690. 22:54the world's worst idea yeah all this
  691. 22:57came from like almost like this
  692. 22:59insecurity to prove that I was actually
  693. 23:01here on this island with nobody and I
  694. 23:03just wanted to share that with the world
  695. 23:04so what were the first steps when you're
  696. 23:06like yo I'm gonna have this music
  697. 23:07festival here yeah what did you go do
  698. 23:09initially like how did that start so
  699. 23:12like just like maybe the time I was 24
  700. 23:14and I knew how to build websites so it's
  701. 23:16like I can build a website in a week if
  702. 23:18it doesn't work no one cares right like
  703. 23:20the idea flops and no one gets hurt so I
  704. 23:22applied that same like Tech logic to
  705. 23:25trying to build a city in the middle of
  706. 23:27nowhere and it was just so stupid it
  707. 23:29just didn't work yeah because you're
  708. 23:30involving people it obviously makes it
  709. 23:31much better situation I just I just
  710. 23:33didn't know how to like extrapolate like
  711. 23:35okay a website the user can't log in no
  712. 23:37one's hurt whereas like hey now I'm
  713. 23:39trying to house thousands of people in
  714. 23:41the middle of nowhere for three or four
  715. 23:43days it's different different so like I
  716. 23:44said earlier what do you think the
  717. 23:45biggest issue was like in your
  718. 23:46perspective just like the logistics of
  719. 23:49it so we'll get into it but like yeah
  720. 23:50I've certainly like I'd lie to investors
  721. 23:53to get money and like morally ethically
  722. 23:54as a human like totally the most [ __ ]
  723. 23:57up part yeah but the worst like business
  724. 24:00decision was time yeah I was like what
  725. 24:02the [ __ ] bro I can make that so quick I
  726. 24:04don't know what I was thinking what was
  727. 24:05the time was the time it was months yeah
  728. 24:07we launched like a trailer to see if
  729. 24:09anybody would care and like it kind of
  730. 24:11worked and I'm like all right in four
  731. 24:12months we're doing this [ __ ] why did you
  732. 24:15do that four months and they're like
  733. 24:16dude like it takes longer than that to
  734. 24:17drills that's like pretty impossible
  735. 24:21right yeah totally
  736. 24:23did you have anyone at the time who was
  737. 24:25like yo this you shouldn't do this like
  738. 24:27you shouldn't move this fast or like
  739. 24:29it's not going to work this way like was
  740. 24:30there anyone trying to like speak logic
  741. 24:32in that sense for sure but I was kind of
  742. 24:34caught up in this mindset that like we
  743. 24:36have to go really fast and the downside
  744. 24:38is there's great artists and a beautiful
  745. 24:40location but it's not perfect and it
  746. 24:42didn't comprehend the downside is that
  747. 24:45people can't stay there it's just like
  748. 24:47not ready I just like didn't understand
  749. 24:48the downside and it's terrible how many
  750. 24:51people was meant were meant to go and
  751. 24:53attend in the beginning so the festival
  752. 24:56is supposed to host 3 000 people per
  753. 24:58weekend and there were two weekends I
  754. 25:00made anywhere from two person to eight
  755. 25:01person tents
  756. 25:03and then when did The Villas come in
  757. 25:05because those didn't exist did they
  758. 25:07there were Villas and like I guess like
  759. 25:10this is kind of why I didn't watch
  760. 25:11documentaries I guess like dude I made
  761. 25:13so many mistakes but we literally like
  762. 25:15hired this former Navy SEAL guy to like
  763. 25:18take a map of the island and all the
  764. 25:19neighboring islands like Mark It Up by
  765. 25:22quadrant and he went out with a team of
  766. 25:24like a photographer like a money guy and
  767. 25:26him and he would go house to house offer
  768. 25:28to send like the local family on
  769. 25:30vacation for two weeks signed a contract
  770. 25:32on the spot like took pictures got the
  771. 25:34keys and we had 200 Villas and we
  772. 25:37literally had like this cardboard box
  773. 25:38with a bunch of keys in an Excel
  774. 25:40document and when the planes were
  775. 25:42Landing like
  776. 25:44it sounds crazy the guy with the keys in
  777. 25:46the village just disappeared
  778. 25:47so damn was there any idiots that showed
  779. 25:49up for weekend too yeah because there
  780. 25:52had to be someone that's a good question
  781. 25:56oh my God holy [ __ ] how did you assemble
  782. 26:00like the greatest
  783. 26:01influencer group of girls of all time
  784. 26:03yeah yeah that must have been kind of
  785. 26:05dope yeah who was it
  786. 26:07rogerkowski Kendall Jenner and I know
  787. 26:09that no Kendall Jenner wasn't in the
  788. 26:11shoot list yeah
  789. 26:13she wasn't on the island for the shoot
  790. 26:15though but um how was that like with all
  791. 26:17those chicks was that like the first
  792. 26:18time you've ever like hung out with like
  793. 26:19supermodels like that so or were you
  794. 26:21always like real on like I mean dude
  795. 26:23what was crazy just how fast things came
  796. 26:25together like sure we had artists there
  797. 26:27we would have you know a couple of
  798. 26:29friends of friends who were there and
  799. 26:30you know there would be some models or
  800. 26:32whatever but we went on one of these
  801. 26:33trips and we're like we need to do the
  802. 26:35best like campaign of all time so I
  803. 26:37remember calling IMG like I'm just like
  804. 26:39in my office back in New York after a
  805. 26:40great weekend in the Bahamas and I'm
  806. 26:42like I want Bella Hadid and you know
  807. 26:44Haley Baldwin and the guy just [ __ ]
  808. 26:45laughs at me on the phone he's like like
  809. 26:47you are so stupid like you have no idea
  810. 26:49what you're talking about so kind of go
  811. 26:51down the list and just start calling
  812. 26:52other agencies until one says yes and
  813. 26:54you know agrees to send a handful of it
  814. 26:57really good you know really nice great
  815. 26:59models they went in the trip and they
  816. 27:01come back to New York the next week just
  817. 27:02saying like it was the best work trip
  818. 27:04they've ever had and three weeks later
  819. 27:06the same people that laughed at me were
  820. 27:07like calling you know sending girls for
  821. 27:09casting sending their roster like
  822. 27:10begging to have their talent come so
  823. 27:12literally like in a matter of weeks
  824. 27:14because of this amazing Island went from
  825. 27:16being like laughed off the phone to we
  826. 27:18just couldn't handle like the database
  827. 27:20of talent who wanted to come to the
  828. 27:21island like we were literally definitely
  829. 27:23I crushed the marketing people away yeah
  830. 27:25so I mean marketing was great but like
  831. 27:26Logistics like before that shoot like
  832. 27:29were you guys marketing it the whole
  833. 27:30time were you just like bringing chicks
  834. 27:31bringing people and like just partying
  835. 27:34and chitter or like it was super
  836. 27:36adventurous and like there's something
  837. 27:38about and and I was so reckless in a way
  838. 27:40that it's like I will never be again but
  839. 27:42there's something about fear that just
  840. 27:44breaks your walls down it breaks people
  841. 27:46together you just go and do crazy [ __ ]
  842. 27:48whether it's like what like you go up in
  843. 27:50the airplane you turn an engine off and
  844. 27:51so you float around with zero gravity
  845. 27:53and you're trying to like drink out of
  846. 27:54your teal a bottle so it's like I don't
  847. 27:55care if you're Haley Bieber or you know
  848. 27:57sure whatever guy from the street in New
  849. 27:59York like you're gonna be best [ __ ]
  850. 28:01friends as soon as you land like
  851. 28:02celebrating like life together and this
  852. 28:04aspect of it's like doing crazy [ __ ]
  853. 28:06realizing that everything you told you
  854. 28:09can just do way more it just brings
  855. 28:10people together just so cool
  856. 28:12you seem like to push the limits yeah
  857. 28:14but yeah so what was it like
  858. 28:15specifically that trip with like the
  859. 28:17campaign shoot yeah there was like six
  860. 28:19campaign shoots and this each one kept
  861. 28:21getting bigger and bigger and it went
  862. 28:23from like these four tiny airplanes with
  863. 28:25you know random magnesis members too
  864. 28:28you know all the stupid [ __ ] and bad
  865. 28:30decisions like all the crazy Jets and
  866. 28:31crazy planes and Yachts to you know in
  867. 28:33the matter of weeks
  868. 28:34I mean all the girls are probably like
  869. 28:36who is this guy yeah I mean it's out
  870. 28:38here yeah it's all this did you try to
  871. 28:39shoot your shot at any of them or oh
  872. 28:41something so hard
  873. 28:43it was every man was bad like literally
  874. 28:46like going to jail to get laid like did
  875. 28:50you get any did you pull any I mean like
  876. 28:52I hope you can respect like you know
  877. 28:53yeah of course I didn't tell anybody to
  878. 28:55get out of jail so I'm not gonna you
  879. 28:56know not gonna write these girls out but
  880. 28:57uh but it's like I was just trying way
  881. 29:00too hard and like now I see guys doing
  882. 29:01that scene was probably going harder
  883. 29:03yeah
  884. 29:07but you were gonna say you see now you
  885. 29:09see guys doing the same thing you're
  886. 29:11talking about like yeah it's like yeah
  887. 29:12on social and everywhere else and it's
  888. 29:14like I can just like see and maybe I'm
  889. 29:16wrong but like they're not happy you
  890. 29:18know which guys are you talking about
  891. 29:19like you can't be the guy subsidizing 80
  892. 29:21people on a weekend and legitimately
  893. 29:23having fun yeah it's like never like
  894. 29:25paying for everyone you're just not
  895. 29:27having fun like that guy's a loser at
  896. 29:28the end of the day sure you might like
  897. 29:29go home to the biggest bank balance but
  898. 29:31like yeah something's wrong and like I
  899. 29:33didn't understand that like I thought it
  900. 29:34was the man and because I could call
  901. 29:36someone have a yacht there in 20 minutes
  902. 29:37no I was the biggest [ __ ] loser and
  903. 29:39it took like really failing to learn
  904. 29:41that and I just I see that in other
  905. 29:43people now it's like dude I just know
  906. 29:44you're not happy
  907. 29:45it's like you can't get there like that
  908. 29:47you want to name any of those people
  909. 29:48sorry you want to name anything no no
  910. 29:50man I just kind of I'm curious I mean
  911. 29:52I'm sure you've all experienced that in
  912. 29:54your life and yeah I'm sure there's
  913. 29:55plenty of guys who try to you know suck
  914. 29:57up to you and offer you the world what
  915. 29:58the [ __ ] pointing at oh yeah why are
  916. 30:02you pointing at me I'm [ __ ] with you
  917. 30:03dude what the [ __ ] sorry okay there's
  918. 30:05levels to the [ __ ] okay sorry Jesus
  919. 30:08Christ
  920. 30:08but if you if you look at like you know
  921. 30:10all the guys who really went crazy hard
  922. 30:12like they burn out right you can't like
  923. 30:14you can't be that guy trying to impress
  924. 30:16the world every weekend you're gonna
  925. 30:17[ __ ] lose like sure you can impress
  926. 30:19me this weekend but people are gonna
  927. 30:20wake up on Monday with their own
  928. 30:22problems they don't give a [ __ ] that you
  929. 30:23bought him a [ __ ] plane or a boat and
  930. 30:25what's gonna happen in six months that
  931. 30:26guy's dead yeah so I'm curious when you
  932. 30:29started doing this how did you go about
  933. 30:30reaching out to artists and how did you
  934. 30:32get them on board
  935. 30:33because of magnesis like we had done
  936. 30:36dozens of concerts like super super
  937. 30:37small these are like nightclub venues
  938. 30:39with a couple hundred people yeah so
  939. 30:41just met you know a lot of like hip-hop
  940. 30:43artists and managers just through
  941. 30:45magnesis so that was kind of how I had
  942. 30:48the first artist for fire got it did
  943. 30:50they want to see the grounds or like the
  944. 30:51stage or anything or we were bringing
  945. 30:53them like oh they were coming out every
  946. 30:55other weekend for the four months we
  947. 30:57were running a trip and for the last two
  948. 30:59months I pretty much lived there so like
  949. 31:00it was non-stop people were coming and
  950. 31:02like I could Master the 20-person trip
  951. 31:05and like give you a great time sure so
  952. 31:07like you would come be like this is
  953. 31:08[ __ ] amazing yeah but then 3 000
  954. 31:10people came and I was a [ __ ] yeah
  955. 31:13what's what celebrities did any
  956. 31:15celebrities actually show up so there's
  957. 31:18been so many stories and you know I've
  958. 31:19heard so many rumors about this or that
  959. 31:21there were 30 artists scheduled to
  960. 31:23perform 28 of the 30 were paid in full
  961. 31:26neither two were paid for the first
  962. 31:28weekend not the second weekend so
  963. 31:29everybody was paid to be there for that
  964. 31:31first weekend as far as I know one
  965. 31:34artist canceled before and that was
  966. 31:35Blink-182 and they were also they were
  967. 31:37paid for that weekend area uh they were
  968. 31:39one of the headliners yes but as far as
  969. 31:41I know everybody else was either there
  970. 31:42or coming until the festival was
  971. 31:45canceled
  972. 31:46who are some of the other big names
  973. 31:47yachty so uh good music was headlining
  974. 31:51one night uh major laser disclosure
  975. 31:53Migos little yachty Rae Sremmurd Migos
  976. 31:57would have been pissed there
  977. 32:00I mean it's not their fault like you
  978. 32:02know we were we were certainly
  979. 32:03overpaying and I mean look the marketing
  980. 32:06was great like
  981. 32:07what artist would say no right we were
  982. 32:08just giving them a big check the money
  983. 32:10was good at the time and like who
  984. 32:12wouldn't want to come to this amazing
  985. 32:13Island so you can't blame the artist at
  986. 32:15all what's the biggest lesson this whole
  987. 32:16thing taught you dude the process
  988. 32:19and the trust it's like
  989. 32:21I had this crazy credit system where it
  990. 32:24took like seven or eight years of me
  991. 32:26just like getting [ __ ] on and working so
  992. 32:27hard for people to trust me yeah or I
  993. 32:29could just call and like get what I
  994. 32:31needed to try to run a business and all
  995. 32:33that just got ruined in one night
  996. 32:35so it's like you can just like work for
  997. 32:36so long and just didn't [ __ ] matter
  998. 32:38it's like that's seven years of eating
  999. 32:39[ __ ] at the end of the day just meant
  1000. 32:41nothing was there any point in that that
  1001. 32:43period where you were starting to be
  1002. 32:44where you were starting to freak out and
  1003. 32:46be like holy [ __ ] this is going to be a
  1004. 32:47miracle like to pull off
  1005. 32:49so dude like life was terrible in like
  1006. 32:52the last couple months leading up to it
  1007. 32:53all the bills were going crazy we spent
  1008. 32:55you know 20-ish million dollars in in
  1009. 32:58four months trying to do this festival
  1010. 32:59and I'd wake up in the morning to like
  1011. 33:01an Excel document saying like here is
  1012. 33:03how much money we need today or else
  1013. 33:05this Festival isn't it canceled so I'd
  1014. 33:07wake up and be like okay I gotta go find
  1015. 33:09three million dollars by 2 pm so we can
  1016. 33:11wire it back out before how are you
  1017. 33:13convincing people to give you all this
  1018. 33:14money so like I think that's the biggest
  1019. 33:16misconception is that like I woke up one
  1020. 33:17day gave some false numbers in a
  1021. 33:19spreadsheet people gave me 20ish million
  1022. 33:22dollars like yes I certainly lied and
  1023. 33:24made that false spreadsheet but it was
  1024. 33:26seven or eight years of these investors
  1025. 33:29seeing me work and building that trust I
  1026. 33:31think that's like the most [ __ ] up
  1027. 33:32thing that I learned is like that's all
  1028. 33:33for for not oh I see so it wasn't like
  1029. 33:37it was just all at one time no it was
  1030. 33:39I've known you for seven years so if I'm
  1031. 33:42telling you like this idea is better and
  1032. 33:44you gave me a million before I need five
  1033. 33:45million now it's much different
  1034. 33:47conversation than like waking up and
  1035. 33:48knocking someone's door and asking for
  1036. 33:50money then why do you think they pressed
  1037. 33:52you so hard for it at the end and why
  1038. 33:53they make it like a real like conviction
  1039. 33:54right because like wouldn't it have been
  1040. 33:56like if they knew you over time then
  1041. 33:57it's like you're taking in most
  1042. 33:59investment opportunities you know you're
  1043. 34:00taking risk but I lied I just didn't
  1044. 34:02have to lie got it no I said we were
  1045. 34:04doing better than we were like dude it's
  1046. 34:06super simple it's like if I have been
  1047. 34:07honest and said look here's what our
  1048. 34:09real numbers are and here's what we need
  1049. 34:10I would have gotten more help I
  1050. 34:12seriously think I would have been able
  1051. 34:13to raise more money without like the
  1052. 34:15[ __ ] numbers yeah that's crazy as it
  1053. 34:17sounds it was like too good to be true
  1054. 34:18right yeah and people were a little
  1055. 34:19weary what's the status of that like do
  1056. 34:21you have to pay that money back or like
  1057. 34:23yeah so I have a question with that 26
  1058. 34:25million in restitution that needs to get
  1059. 34:28paid back to investors and then buy a
  1060. 34:30certain date or no I think it's like you
  1061. 34:32gotta have lifetime for that for the
  1062. 34:33rest of my life right right so how does
  1063. 34:35that work so it's like say if you made a
  1064. 34:36million dollars how much that goes to
  1065. 34:37restitution 100 of it because like how
  1066. 34:39do you even like do your living expenses
  1067. 34:41and you know dude the problem is like so
  1068. 34:43many people are going to be eating off
  1069. 34:45of everything I earn for a very long
  1070. 34:48time whether it's like tax taxes or
  1071. 34:49lawsuits or restitution yeah so it's
  1072. 34:51like it's been two months and I have no
  1073. 34:54idea like what the percentages are going
  1074. 34:56to be yet but it's going to be you know
  1075. 34:58something something
  1076. 35:00yeah I think I saw there was like 100
  1077. 35:03investors out of any of them do are any
  1078. 35:05of them still like supportive or so the
  1079. 35:07craziest [ __ ] thing happened after I
  1080. 35:10did like his first like social media
  1081. 35:11post a couple of weeks ago this one
  1082. 35:14investor was super mad and wrote a
  1083. 35:16letter to the judge at sentencing
  1084. 35:17basically saying anything less than a
  1085. 35:19life sentence will be a tragedy they
  1086. 35:22send me this like glowing DM like trying
  1087. 35:24to hang out and get back together
  1088. 35:27yeah it's like how do you like as a
  1089. 35:30human how am I supposed to like
  1090. 35:32internalize that like I'm sitting there
  1091. 35:33in front of my family and friends this
  1092. 35:35letter is being read The Judd is reading
  1093. 35:37this letter this person is saying this
  1094. 35:39kid needs a life sentence he ruined my
  1095. 35:41family he ruined this and this was years
  1096. 35:42ago years ago and then two weeks ago I
  1097. 35:44post a tick tock video now they're
  1098. 35:46trying to get together it's like this is
  1099. 35:47yours how much time did you actually do
  1100. 35:50because I know you got four years four
  1101. 35:51years do you think that's Justified
  1102. 35:55I think I'm super lucky to have been in
  1103. 35:57New York
  1104. 35:58um you know all like all the big big
  1105. 36:00dogs are in New York these the banks and
  1106. 36:02these hedge funds who are dealing with
  1107. 36:03numbers that I've never seen before are
  1108. 36:04all there I think I'm lucky in terms of
  1109. 36:06where I was and if I was elsewhere it
  1110. 36:08could have been a lot worse why because
  1111. 36:09they're easier on those type of crimes
  1112. 36:10here you're saying I think it's more
  1113. 36:11used to it right and like my dollar
  1114. 36:13figures here aren't going to shock
  1115. 36:15anybody but like if I'm in Minnesota
  1116. 36:17like you know you're the big fish in
  1117. 36:20town but here compared to all the in the
  1118. 36:22mega Banks hedge funds I'm irrelevant so
  1119. 36:25I was lucky to be in New York yeah
  1120. 36:26however dude four years is a lot of time
  1121. 36:28it's like I missed half my 20s right
  1122. 36:30like obviously deserved it but dude you
  1123. 36:32lose 25 through 30 it's like to [ __ ]
  1124. 36:35see if you unfortunately what was jail
  1125. 36:36like oh crazy I read something was Mike
  1126. 36:39The Situation were you guys Boys in
  1127. 36:41there so I was in jail with him you were
  1128. 36:43locked up with situation I swear it's
  1129. 36:44like five for five months Situation's
  1130. 36:46dope this is a bad friend to have in
  1131. 36:48there I'm glad you asked that question I
  1132. 36:49swear I love situation he's so joked oh
  1133. 36:52yeah
  1134. 36:53so we were in jail together for five-ish
  1135. 36:55months I was in like more of like a
  1136. 36:58white collar prison yeah to start with
  1137. 37:00yeah of course I got in trouble there
  1138. 37:01this is before the podcast and get
  1139. 37:04shipped that right away what'd you do
  1140. 37:05you know I had a USB device I was trying
  1141. 37:07to record a book
  1142. 37:09once again not a good idea so he came
  1143. 37:11and snagged me threw me in solitary for
  1144. 37:12that too sent me on Con Air to the next
  1145. 37:15jail so where I did the podcast and kept
  1146. 37:17getting worse but were you guys like did
  1147. 37:18he have your back in there
  1148. 37:20and that was like a really different
  1149. 37:21jail experience it was probably like 60
  1150. 37:24White Collar people so it was mostly
  1151. 37:27like older New York guys and everybody
  1152. 37:29was super nice and relaxed really the
  1153. 37:32other jails were a completely different
  1154. 37:33vibe like the second one you went to
  1155. 37:35there I went to maybe four or five all
  1156. 37:37the other ones was very heavy gang
  1157. 37:39mostly like uh guns and drugs but yeah
  1158. 37:42it's a totally different experience a
  1159. 37:43situation without like the very calm
  1160. 37:45like relaxed prison did you just like to
  1161. 37:47like join a side yeah did you have a
  1162. 37:48career you fit in with so dude I got in
  1163. 37:49trouble I was in jail for one night and
  1164. 37:52it was you were yeah in Texas
  1165. 37:59like four years bro that'd be [ __ ]
  1166. 38:02like one night was pretty scary man it
  1167. 38:04sucks it's [ __ ] it's exactly like the
  1168. 38:06movies like that's what I found it was
  1169. 38:07just like the lunchroom and [ __ ] and
  1170. 38:09like it's like 50 years behind Society
  1171. 38:11it's like part of the segregation like
  1172. 38:13the yeah like this is like all the not a
  1173. 38:15place you want to be man would you play
  1174. 38:17cards in there or anything didn't really
  1175. 38:18play cards did you start you started a
  1176. 38:21business in there or something with
  1177. 38:22phone calls
  1178. 38:23yeah so when covet started
  1179. 38:25people were just like so [ __ ] like you
  1180. 38:27know their families are [ __ ] so I
  1181. 38:29started like a charity to help fund
  1182. 38:30these phone calls because the cost is
  1183. 38:31three dollars and fifteen cents to call
  1184. 38:33our family which is like pretty
  1185. 38:33expensive right so I started a program
  1186. 38:36to fund phone calls for all these
  1187. 38:37inmates which is pretty cool yeah
  1188. 38:40it was like any [ __ ] jail stories
  1189. 38:43dude so many like when I first I was on
  1190. 38:46bail in New York and I've [ __ ] around
  1191. 38:49on bail and was trying to dig myself out
  1192. 38:51of a hole and basically had my bell
  1193. 38:53revoked and was taken to the Brooklyn
  1194. 38:54Detention Center
  1195. 38:55which is like totally brutal and I just
  1196. 38:58didn't know the first thing about jail
  1197. 39:00and like I didn't know about the jail
  1198. 39:02culture all the race stuff like like
  1199. 39:04living in Manhattan like all this stuff
  1200. 39:05just doesn't exist in like you know my
  1201. 39:07mindset and obviously I was naive too
  1202. 39:09which is so stupid but I'm hanging out
  1203. 39:11with like other 25 year old guys and
  1204. 39:13hanging out with the guys who you know I
  1205. 39:15have similar interests to
  1206. 39:16but these like older white guys like
  1207. 39:18literally like Nazi tattoos in their
  1208. 39:20forehead kept coming out to me like oh
  1209. 39:21you can't hang out with them did you say
  1210. 39:22hold his pocket and then say hold his
  1211. 39:25pocket but he's like you can't hang out
  1212. 39:26with the black guys you got to hang out
  1213. 39:27with the white guys you know you got to
  1214. 39:28hang out with your own kind like all
  1215. 39:30these things I just like I wasn't
  1216. 39:31understanding was understanding but
  1217. 39:33anyway I guess you're really pissed off
  1218. 39:34these like you know white supremacist
  1219. 39:36guys because my cellmate who had a
  1220. 39:3914-year sentence he was back in Brooklyn
  1221. 39:41in some appeal uh Indian guy with a
  1222. 39:43financial crime like middle-aged guy
  1223. 39:45super super nice he goes hey Billy I got
  1224. 39:48some bad news you know the white guys
  1225. 39:50they want to fight you
  1226. 39:51they either want 150 or they're going to
  1227. 39:53come and fight you what do you want to
  1228. 39:54do he's like if you don't have the money
  1229. 39:56I'll pay it for you no problem but if
  1230. 39:58you want to fight I got your back [ __ ]
  1231. 40:00and I'm like [ __ ] and like the guy is
  1232. 40:02super super nice how old was he he's
  1233. 40:03probably like 45. yeah probably yeah
  1234. 40:06shout out to Patel no chance but tell us
  1235. 40:08a man anyway so I'm like Patel [ __ ] it
  1236. 40:10like I'm not paying these guys now I
  1237. 40:11just got here like let's fight he goes I
  1238. 40:14knew you're gonna say that so anyway our
  1239. 40:17doors get locked are you capping yeah is
  1240. 40:19this the real story
  1241. 40:21right now
  1242. 40:42tell us props here because like this is
  1243. 40:44like a really cool heartwarming moment
  1244. 40:46so you're locked behind your door for
  1245. 40:48what they call account for a couple
  1246. 40:49hours so he's like trying to tell me
  1247. 40:51what to do dude I'm brand new he's like
  1248. 40:52I gotta put your boots on lace up blah
  1249. 40:54blah blah but the whole time he knew it
  1250. 40:57was gonna happen and he had told one of
  1251. 40:59like the big gangs he was leading the
  1252. 41:00jail like what was happening and you
  1253. 41:02know I wasn't friends with them but they
  1254. 41:03were like you know they were cool and
  1255. 41:04like trying to help me so as soon as the
  1256. 41:06doors got unlocked like the gang guy
  1257. 41:08came and grabbed me he goes hey Billy
  1258. 41:09gotta talk to you so he brought me into
  1259. 41:10his cell to basically protect me Patel
  1260. 41:13went and bum rushed that white guy sell
  1261. 41:15and fought him for me and I had no idea
  1262. 41:17and I came back to my cell and Patel is
  1263. 41:19just bleeding all over the ground his
  1264. 41:20head's all chopped up and like this
  1265. 41:21middle-aged guy there for like like a
  1266. 41:23white collar crime is like hey you're a
  1267. 41:26new kid here you don't know what you're
  1268. 41:27doing it literally went [ __ ] just
  1269. 41:28like Risk to sentence and went and
  1270. 41:29attacked the guy for me why is he doing
  1271. 41:31that no offense but why is he doing that
  1272. 41:33for you he had been in jail for six
  1273. 41:34years I wasn't sentenced yet and like
  1274. 41:36you just get in way more trouble if you
  1275. 41:38get caught fighting and he's like he's
  1276. 41:40like dude you just don't know what's
  1277. 41:41going on and like this [ __ ] is serious
  1278. 41:43that's pretty real which guys have long
  1279. 41:45sense for you yeah why would I do that
  1280. 41:47yes that's what I'm saying of course I
  1281. 41:49can subscribe one of my closest friends
  1282. 41:50he wouldn't do that for me so I wouldn't
  1283. 41:51do I would tell us a real one in jail I
  1284. 41:53mean dude
  1285. 41:57why would we be in there I'm not gonna
  1286. 41:59go beat up random dudes for you I don't
  1287. 42:00know get myself did you ever write any
  1288. 42:02lyrics in there no man I'm tired
  1289. 42:07I'm kind of curious on this so let's go
  1290. 42:09back to fire in the night before yeah
  1291. 42:11what were your feels the night before
  1292. 42:13everybody's getting there we just
  1293. 42:16weren't ready and are you freaking out
  1294. 42:18like looking at the ground totally
  1295. 42:20freaking out and like my genius ass like
  1296. 42:23okay let's set up lights and we'll work
  1297. 42:24overnight and this will be ready by the
  1298. 42:26time they arrive in the morning and this
  1299. 42:28storm just comes through okay
  1300. 42:30that's the funniest part of the day I
  1301. 42:32swear words
  1302. 42:35now they put that in the documentary
  1303. 42:36okay okay there was a storm and I'm like
  1304. 42:38all right it's gonna be over in 30
  1305. 42:39minutes all right it's gonna be over an
  1306. 42:40hour and this storm just didn't go away
  1307. 42:42and my last decision that really [ __ ]
  1308. 42:45everything was people started Landing in
  1309. 42:46the morning and I feel like the festival
  1310. 42:48site just didn't look good enough so I
  1311. 42:50sent them to this beach on the other
  1312. 42:52side of the island I told all the local
  1313. 42:53boat captains and jet ski guys my Go
  1314. 42:55free boats free jet skis give them all
  1315. 42:57the booze they want like give them a
  1316. 42:59great time and then told them to come
  1317. 43:01back like later that night so everybody
  1318. 43:04came over and they were like get them
  1319. 43:05Sauced up before so get them sauce yeah
  1320. 43:07yeah show them the island the Island's
  1321. 43:09amazing yeah but they came back they
  1322. 43:11were wasted it was Pitch Black the
  1323. 43:12lights weren't working NASA started the
  1324. 43:14whole Mayhem so I really [ __ ]
  1325. 43:16everything and like ruined the last
  1326. 43:18chance when I told people to just like
  1327. 43:20go away from the festival site and
  1328. 43:21that's what killed how did you handle
  1329. 43:22that like how did you address everybody
  1330. 43:25I was standing on a milk crate and like
  1331. 43:28trying to be like trying to get people
  1332. 43:30into their houses and I had almost 800
  1333. 43:32you know people working in the festival
  1334. 43:34that time they weren't all like
  1335. 43:35full-time employees but between
  1336. 43:36contractors and full-time employees and
  1337. 43:39it just shows my like inability to
  1338. 43:41manage like where the [ __ ] is everybody
  1339. 43:42I'm standing in this milk crate getting
  1340. 43:44yelled at by you know X hundreds of
  1341. 43:46people and it's like couldn't find
  1342. 43:47anybody it was like the worst feeling in
  1343. 43:49the world damn yeah see that's what I
  1344. 43:52don't understand because in the
  1345. 43:53documentary right A lot of people on
  1346. 43:55your team are constantly talking about
  1347. 43:56yeah we don't have enough time like this
  1348. 43:58isn't gonna happen but they don't really
  1349. 43:59show them coming to talk to you and be
  1350. 44:02like sitting you down and be like bro
  1351. 44:03there's there's no chance this works out
  1352. 44:05it probably wasn't filmed right well but
  1353. 44:07did that happen like were there people
  1354. 44:09from your team being like Billy this is
  1355. 44:11not [ __ ] the yoga guy was saying that
  1356. 44:13so I should have listened like so so
  1357. 44:16people were saying that people were
  1358. 44:17saying it and it's like I was just on
  1359. 44:19this mentality like we are going to make
  1360. 44:21this work at all costs and you know I'd
  1361. 44:23given up everything I had like lie to
  1362. 44:26everybody to get this money yes and like
  1363. 44:28I was just so far down the hole it's
  1364. 44:30like I don't care
  1365. 44:32how impossible this sounds like we're
  1366. 44:33going to make this work and that's what
  1367. 44:35really [ __ ] me whatever happened to
  1368. 44:37that guy you guys see that guy that was
  1369. 44:38the meme the guy that was gonna give out
  1370. 44:39a BJ for the water I've heard a lot
  1371. 44:41that's a legend hello you guys still
  1372. 44:44boys you and that guy
  1373. 44:45um he was gonna let that guy's a [ __ ]
  1374. 44:47Trooper man why wait why were you guys
  1375. 44:50wait wait wait wait why were you guys so
  1376. 44:53sure that he had to like suck the guy's
  1377. 44:54dick like where'd that you trolled him
  1378. 44:56didn't you
  1379. 44:58yeah like why not like why didn't not
  1380. 45:00like pay him money like pay the Border
  1381. 45:02officer money like why did it just jump
  1382. 45:04to like yo you got to blow this guy no
  1383. 45:06you I think you were [ __ ] with him no
  1384. 45:07that's funny if I pay the board I got
  1385. 45:09money I think I would have been in jail
  1386. 45:10for a lot longer so thankfully I didn't
  1387. 45:11do that but uh in the Bahamas though
  1388. 45:13yeah yeah that's bad but um
  1389. 45:16bro you gotta talk with that guy's
  1390. 45:17everywhere
  1391. 45:19I mean any king tried his best
  1392. 45:22I think what I didn't see the
  1393. 45:23documentary was once again I was told
  1394. 45:25how it sounded the day after the day he
  1395. 45:28filmed yeah I was at dinner and he came
  1396. 45:31to meet me at dinner with the producer
  1397. 45:32for the documentary trying to convince
  1398. 45:33me to come interview for it and he's
  1399. 45:35just like laughing his ass off about the
  1400. 45:37story and I hear like on the documentary
  1401. 45:39he's like almost in tears like crying
  1402. 45:40about it so it's like kind of
  1403. 45:42frustrating about how you know people
  1404. 45:44portray certain Adventure but it's like
  1405. 45:46in the documentary he was crying I was
  1406. 45:48told he was seemed to be like very
  1407. 45:49serious about that he pretty much was
  1408. 45:50like yo I was ready to blow somebody was
  1409. 45:52laughing okay all right I don't know so
  1410. 45:54you seemed pretty happy yeah but we
  1411. 45:56didn't go through with it he he was
  1412. 45:58trying his best and like we were
  1413. 46:00certainly all mentality get these things
  1414. 46:01done but there was never like a direct
  1415. 46:03order you know go blow this official but
  1416. 46:06that's the kind of guy you want on your
  1417. 46:07team play you gotta have one guy like
  1418. 46:09that in the squad yeah we have one we
  1419. 46:10got Gabe he's ready
  1420. 46:14besides the festival all the stuff that
  1421. 46:16went South when did like the legal when
  1422. 46:18were you like oh this is coming to me
  1423. 46:20like did it all come at once like with
  1424. 46:21when they started hitting you with like
  1425. 46:23hey this is a problem and we're coming
  1426. 46:24for this yeah so the festival was
  1427. 46:26canceled like late on a Thursday night
  1428. 46:27okay
  1429. 46:29um I flew back to New York late Sunday
  1430. 46:30night so what three days later yeah and
  1431. 46:32then like 5 a.m the FBI was at my door
  1432. 46:35so so who's five hours so sorry say that
  1433. 46:39in five hours I landed like midnight on
  1434. 46:41the Sunday after the festival and at
  1435. 46:42five a.m the FBI so who's hitting FM
  1436. 46:44like yo do you think that like a great
  1437. 46:47great shout out to my doorman at the
  1438. 46:49time you know you're the man I won't say
  1439. 46:51your name and get you in trouble but he
  1440. 46:53told the FBI I lived in the second floor
  1441. 46:54of my building I live in the 10th floor
  1442. 46:57he ran up he took the elevator to the
  1443. 46:59second floor ran up the rest of the
  1444. 47:01stairs knocking on my door texting me
  1445. 47:03it's like Mr McFarland the FBI is here
  1446. 47:06if you want to go I got you at the back
  1447. 47:07right now I'm like no that's a real one
  1448. 47:10shout out that guy no you got a few of
  1449. 47:12those he's a man
  1450. 47:14that guy's a [ __ ] Legend I'll come
  1451. 47:17down he goes okay but we gotta walk down
  1452. 47:19to the second Forest they can't see us
  1453. 47:20coming down did you do that so he walked
  1454. 47:22down to the second floor and then took
  1455. 47:24the elevator down and not so funny but
  1456. 47:26when they came to actually arrest me
  1457. 47:27again months later they went to the
  1458. 47:29wrong apartment oh my God so he saved
  1459. 47:31you a few months yeah now like I got
  1460. 47:34arrested that day got out on bail and
  1461. 47:35then they came to arrest me again though
  1462. 47:37they went to the wrong apartment because
  1463. 47:38he lied to them but like the doormat so
  1464. 47:40who's calling FBI though like the next
  1465. 47:42few the few days later like who is that
  1466. 47:44yeah
  1467. 47:45well do you think Chris Chris no they
  1468. 47:48got paid do you think that they were
  1469. 47:49monitoring you so during the show dude I
  1470. 47:52just like in the process I I I lied and
  1471. 47:54I lied to a lot of powerful people
  1472. 47:56investors are like notified so so naive
  1473. 47:59like I was on the ground when the
  1474. 48:01festival was canceled and this one
  1475. 48:02investor goes to me like he gave me a
  1476. 48:04dollar figure that wasn't the full
  1477. 48:06amount he's like we need this back or
  1478. 48:08else you're going to be on handcuffs
  1479. 48:09from the front page of the Wall Street
  1480. 48:10Journal and basically said like dude I
  1481. 48:12don't have it like [ __ ] off for lack of
  1482. 48:13better terms and I tried calling him
  1483. 48:15again a day later he just goes sorry too
  1484. 48:17late and I didn't know what he meant Oh
  1485. 48:19and like literally like and he had every
  1486. 48:22right to report when was that in the
  1487. 48:24whole problem this is Friday Saturday
  1488. 48:25and then I get back to New York on
  1489. 48:27Sunday and I'm done like dude I was I
  1490. 48:28was guilty I was guilty as hell [ __ ] it
  1491. 48:31was yeah what's that like the FBI
  1492. 48:33showing up
  1493. 48:46[Laughter]
  1494. 48:51looking out for you like that yeah we
  1495. 48:53had some really good dudes man it's like
  1496. 48:55even just back to jail like there were
  1497. 48:57certainly some scumbags in there who
  1498. 48:58just like did really bad things but so
  1499. 49:01many great people who just didn't know
  1500. 49:03anything else and if you're like this 18
  1501. 49:05year old kid and everybody around you is
  1502. 49:07selling drugs you don't have one friend
  1503. 49:09who doesn't do it and you get caught at
  1504. 49:1018 and go to jail like how do you blame
  1505. 49:12that kid right yeah it's like there's
  1506. 49:14some really good honest guys in there
  1507. 49:16what was the worst thing you saw
  1508. 49:18there was some rape
  1509. 49:20um there's a guy who committed suicide
  1510. 49:22in the Brooklyn Detention Center when I
  1511. 49:24was there [ __ ] and I was kind of [ __ ]
  1512. 49:25up
  1513. 49:26um there was a young kid who who came
  1514. 49:29into Brooklyn a couple months after I
  1515. 49:30got there so I was more comfortable at
  1516. 49:32this point he was like my age kind of
  1517. 49:34looked like similar to me so everybody
  1518. 49:36was joking oh like Billy you got a
  1519. 49:38brother here like your brother's finally
  1520. 49:39in jail with you you got a friend yeah
  1521. 49:40and so he's all scared the first day he
  1522. 49:43pays off one of the big gangs for
  1523. 49:45protection gives him a lot of money
  1524. 49:46right so the guy switches his cell to be
  1525. 49:48cellmates with him and he's right next
  1526. 49:50door to myself and like so he just paid
  1527. 49:52this guy or he paid his gang and the guy
  1528. 49:53said okay so come with me and that night
  1529. 49:55you just hear the guy getting raped he
  1530. 49:57goes oh please like stop and do that was
  1531. 49:58[ __ ] like you're right next to him
  1532. 50:00right different cells closed door if you
  1533. 50:02could hear it and like I saw him it's
  1534. 50:04like dude stop you telling it like you
  1535. 50:06can if you call the cops and telling
  1536. 50:07them like they're gonna [ __ ] kill you
  1537. 50:08like there's nothing you can do so it
  1538. 50:11gets worse so the next morning the kid
  1539. 50:12doesn't want to tell him the guy right
  1540. 50:14so he basically goes and tells the cop I
  1541. 50:15need a new cell so they move his cell
  1542. 50:17but the words getting around it he got
  1543. 50:19raped so now the gang pressures the guy
  1544. 50:21that raped him he's like if that guy's
  1545. 50:23that is that guy lying he's like yeah
  1546. 50:24he's like I didn't rape him so the next
  1547. 50:26morning when the door is open all you
  1548. 50:28hear is he cries like help me help me he
  1549. 50:30took a razor blade and went and like
  1550. 50:32slashed the kid up and you never saw him
  1551. 50:33again
  1552. 50:34so he got raped one day and then slashed
  1553. 50:37up the next day so it's like cheese dude
  1554. 50:39this place is [ __ ] real like what was
  1555. 50:42your status like in there like people
  1556. 50:43knew who you were that's [ __ ] insane
  1557. 50:45no well they knew who you were so the
  1558. 50:47big thing about jail is sex offenders
  1559. 50:50which there are tons and people who
  1560. 50:53snitched so if you weren't a sex
  1561. 50:55offender you don't snitch and you don't
  1562. 50:57owe anybody money and only we do that is
  1563. 50:58if you're a drug user like then you're
  1564. 51:00then you're pretty much fine so did
  1565. 51:01people like know who you were they knew
  1566. 51:03about the case yeah and then so but
  1567. 51:05basically if you're not a sex offender
  1568. 51:06or a snitch and you're not like in the
  1569. 51:07gang situation no one really cares about
  1570. 51:09you so you can kind of like stay in your
  1571. 51:10own lane and no one bothers you God that
  1572. 51:12makes sense yeah but like if you're not
  1573. 51:15that like you can't watch TV you can't
  1574. 51:16eat at certain tables like you're really
  1575. 51:18what was the best thing you got to do in
  1576. 51:20there
  1577. 51:22meet people it's like
  1578. 51:25I think when you're working a lot and
  1579. 51:27like trying to excel in your career you
  1580. 51:30don't have
  1581. 51:31months just like hang out with someone
  1582. 51:33and get to know them
  1583. 51:34on like a non-needy level like I don't
  1584. 51:37need anything from you you don't want
  1585. 51:38anything from me just like becoming
  1586. 51:39genuine friends like that was pretty
  1587. 51:42cool and I felt like when you're trying
  1588. 51:43to come up in your career
  1589. 51:45it's hard to find genuine friends
  1590. 51:47because most people want something from
  1591. 51:48you whether it's to be in the podcast
  1592. 51:49whether it's to invest and make money
  1593. 51:51whoever the [ __ ] it is everyone's trying
  1594. 51:52to come up everybody everybody wants to
  1595. 51:53come up like even if you're a great guy
  1596. 51:55you know we're business minded right we
  1597. 51:57want that come up yeah but in there when
  1598. 51:59you don't care about to come up if
  1599. 52:01someone has 30 years in their sentence
  1600. 52:03like they're not trying to come up it's
  1601. 52:04like that time to connect like it's
  1602. 52:06pretty cool which is like a really
  1603. 52:07different humans that's interesting real
  1604. 52:09real connection like you're real friends
  1605. 52:11it's like I don't need anything like
  1606. 52:12we're in jail like I don't want anything
  1607. 52:14like whatever you were before it doesn't
  1608. 52:16[ __ ] matter we're all eating the same
  1609. 52:17[ __ ] and like sleeping in a [ __ ]
  1610. 52:19cotton like we're cool so while while
  1611. 52:21you're in there and and now are you were
  1612. 52:24you thinking about okay this is what I
  1613. 52:25need to do when I get out or this is
  1614. 52:27plans that I have to start when I get
  1615. 52:29out yeah so working on a company now
  1616. 52:31it's called pirate put it together
  1617. 52:34during so this is the new game plan
  1618. 52:36pirate all right it's put it together in
  1619. 52:39my seventh month stint in solitary and
  1620. 52:41to start okay one more happy day yeah
  1621. 52:43bro yeah this is great much better than
  1622. 52:46the like The Hoot show he's drinking for
  1623. 52:47a few years so anyway
  1624. 52:51overall goal here with pirate is like
  1625. 52:53want to make the biggest impact possible
  1626. 52:55and want to pay people back but to do
  1627. 52:58that I need to do what I'm good at
  1628. 53:00that's starting a business
  1629. 53:01not a festival not a festival oh we can
  1630. 53:04get into that
  1631. 53:05oh [ __ ] no no no I'm pulling up I'm
  1632. 53:09pulling up can I have the box can I have
  1633. 53:11the bottle can I can I get pretty funny
  1634. 53:13actually like if you actually do another
  1635. 53:15Festival though it would actually be
  1636. 53:17pretty funny
  1637. 53:18so how many people show up for novelty
  1638. 53:20even pirate kind of gets back to what
  1639. 53:23I'm good at and I think does it in a
  1640. 53:25scale that's a little bit more
  1641. 53:27interesting this time around
  1642. 53:29before we get into it when I go back to
  1643. 53:31the Bahamas for the first time
  1644. 53:33whatever that I don't know what's gonna
  1645. 53:34happen I have to ask permission to go
  1646. 53:36but I'd love for you guys to be there to
  1647. 53:38capture the content and be the first
  1648. 53:40ones to return boots in the ground I
  1649. 53:42think full send getting the reaction
  1650. 53:44from the locals
  1651. 53:48that's great Vlog I love that video it's
  1652. 53:51actually hilarious
  1653. 53:53we will do the four day weekends that
  1654. 53:56made the fire Festival idea happen wait
  1655. 53:58till Steve hears this thing yeah all
  1656. 53:59right so he's gonna lose it here's your
  1657. 54:02message in a bottle and you got to take
  1658. 54:04that with you but
  1659. 54:05um you guys I really hope you guys can
  1660. 54:07make the first return trip so I open it
  1661. 54:09right now it's just a little invitation
  1662. 54:11you guys can open it later but I hope
  1663. 54:12that you guys can come back we'll use
  1664. 54:14the first trip
  1665. 54:15so so you're gonna do you're gonna is it
  1666. 54:18gonna evolve into another festival or is
  1667. 54:20this is like so what pirate is going to
  1668. 54:22be it's going to be a small permanent
  1669. 54:24Hotel
  1670. 54:25in the Bahamas for like artists and
  1671. 54:28entrepreneurs to come and it's like
  1672. 54:29partake in these crazy Adventures
  1673. 54:31they're just gonna build it first I'm
  1674. 54:32assuming we're we're partnering with the
  1675. 54:34development that already exists got it
  1676. 54:35so you know we'll make it our brand
  1677. 54:38yeah people to come hang out you know go
  1678. 54:41spear fishing should we go dude you
  1679. 54:44gotta come yeah I'm going
  1680. 54:46to come I'm going all right you're going
  1681. 54:48too no you can not [ __ ] it yeah we can
  1682. 54:50get into some of the wild [ __ ] that
  1683. 54:51happened down there that I think is
  1684. 54:53great content but we'll give the time
  1685. 54:54bring your video for you who's who else
  1686. 54:57is going to be there
  1687. 54:58we won't buy the people are you guys are
  1688. 55:01you guys coming I mean when I'm going I
  1689. 55:04don't give a [ __ ] yeah so I have to ask
  1690. 55:06permission to travel
  1691. 55:07um due to my probation status but we
  1692. 55:09will ask soon well bro what's I want to
  1693. 55:12do it back the original trip a few small
  1694. 55:14propeller planes straight from New York
  1695. 55:16and doing the whole thing OG status and
  1696. 55:19really showing you guys the other
  1697. 55:20islands of the Caribbean and what we can
  1698. 55:21make happen there I know
  1699. 55:26what do you guys think leave a comment
  1700. 55:28drop a thumbs up on the video real quick
  1701. 55:31what's your status with the people of
  1702. 55:33the Bahamas yeah that's a good point I
  1703. 55:35have so many close friends there like
  1704. 55:37they're the warmest kindest people ever
  1705. 55:40the day I got out like two of my closest
  1706. 55:42friends there flew up to New York
  1707. 55:44literally for the first time from the
  1708. 55:45Bahamas spent a week here with me
  1709. 55:48um my business partner has gone back a
  1710. 55:50couple times for the past couple of
  1711. 55:51months we're really like getting back
  1712. 55:53into full Bahamas mode so we're doing is
  1713. 55:56establishing a permanent spot there for
  1714. 55:58like a manageable number of like artists
  1715. 56:00and creators to come and get together
  1716. 56:01and just like connect and share new
  1717. 56:03ideas
  1718. 56:04but what we did this time is pretty cool
  1719. 56:05we built this virtual replica of the
  1720. 56:08island
  1721. 56:09so no matter where you are in the world
  1722. 56:11you could live stream the island you can
  1723. 56:14actually get together online and change
  1724. 56:16what's happening on the island so for
  1725. 56:18example I change what's happening
  1726. 56:19physically on the island physically so
  1727. 56:21like I could be swimming on the island
  1728. 56:22and people online could like buy me a
  1729. 56:24drink or they can literally Chum the
  1730. 56:26water and like give it all the sharks in
  1731. 56:28the area like I'm sure people would love
  1732. 56:29to would love to see that so it's all
  1733. 56:32about how
  1734. 56:37propose that like to me hey are you down
  1735. 56:39with getting the water Chum I'll have
  1736. 56:41like a pirate app my Apple watch and I
  1737. 56:43can say yeah sure I'll do this and then
  1738. 56:45literally have like a local boat captain
  1739. 56:46drops bait in the water so it's giving
  1740. 56:49people the ability no matter where they
  1741. 56:51are to come to this experience that I
  1742. 56:53always thought was so magical but not
  1743. 56:55just watch it to actually change and
  1744. 56:57even own some of the things happening on
  1745. 56:59the island one sec Billy what if they
  1746. 57:01say yo we don't want you to come back
  1747. 57:02here
  1748. 57:03that would really suck wouldn't it
  1749. 57:05they're not saying that I'm assuming I
  1750. 57:07can't get permission right you talking
  1751. 57:08about the Bahamas yeah I need to ask
  1752. 57:10permission to the just to leave the
  1753. 57:12country to leave the country the Bahamas
  1754. 57:13is cool with you coming back I have
  1755. 57:15plenty of support from the Bahamas so
  1756. 57:16I'm fairly confident that we will be
  1757. 57:18allowed a second chance there which
  1758. 57:20super super grateful for but just need
  1759. 57:22to like kind of go through the process
  1760. 57:23with the US and you know take it step by
  1761. 57:24step
  1762. 57:25damn why don't you live in the Bahamas
  1763. 57:27so what's the company it's like an app
  1764. 57:30it's the company is called pirate so
  1765. 57:31it's you know part physical hotel and
  1766. 57:34part app where you can literally get
  1767. 57:35together everywhere and then change
  1768. 57:37what's happening on this island are they
  1769. 57:39building the hotel right now so we're
  1770. 57:40taking over a development it's already
  1771. 57:42been there it's never been marketed
  1772. 57:43before so we're gonna make it it's like
  1773. 57:45pirate Adventure theme and essentially
  1774. 57:48invite various like content creators and
  1775. 57:50entrepreneurs and it's like replicate
  1776. 57:52these Adventure trips that kicked
  1777. 57:54everything off but do a unique twist
  1778. 57:57where you're there on the island and
  1779. 57:58then a thousand people at home could be
  1780. 58:00like dictating your Island Experience so
  1781. 58:03the hotel exists right like it's there
  1782. 58:04it's not a currently Hotel it's a couple
  1783. 58:07of dozen Villas that's basically you
  1784. 58:08know a private Villa like a villa or
  1785. 58:10like it's a real thing right so like
  1786. 58:12just like cardboard boxes right now it's
  1787. 58:14gonna be ready in what three weeks
  1788. 58:18just give yourself enough time for this
  1789. 58:20one so we took we took our first let's
  1790. 58:22not rush this like we don't know yeah
  1791. 58:23dude like the great thing is like
  1792. 58:25there's no problem is right like I have
  1793. 58:27no no investors and no deadlines we took
  1794. 58:29our first guest back last weekend I
  1795. 58:31didn't go but my business partner took
  1796. 58:32them like they had a [ __ ] incredible
  1797. 58:33time and taking step by step but really
  1798. 58:36focusing on the tech now and like think
  1799. 58:39there's so much in like this emerging
  1800. 58:40technology where people can come
  1801. 58:42together online to actually like own and
  1802. 58:44affect these physical assets it's going
  1803. 58:47to make this experience totally
  1804. 58:49different and open to everybody
  1805. 58:51and are are you super confident now like
  1806. 58:53as any of you do you ever worry now like
  1807. 58:55what what's happened in the past are you
  1808. 58:57ever scared or like does that play into
  1809. 58:58what you're doing in the future I think
  1810. 59:00it all just comes down to honesty right
  1811. 59:02it's like I don't have [ __ ] and I'm just
  1812. 59:04like very grateful to have supportive
  1813. 59:05friends and supportive companies who
  1814. 59:07want to see this happen so I'm going to
  1815. 59:09go after all the [ __ ] they believe yeah
  1816. 59:11it's great and it's like I'm going for
  1817. 59:12it and but I'm gonna go for it honestly
  1818. 59:14so if anything goes wrong there's
  1819. 59:16there's no like I'm honest about
  1820. 59:18finances I'm honest about like what it
  1821. 59:20can or can't do yeah it's thinking
  1822. 59:22completely different Leaf here and dude
  1823. 59:23it's almost like the motivation of a
  1824. 59:26team and supporters is so much better
  1825. 59:28when I'm brutally honest it's like dude
  1826. 59:30I don't have [ __ ] like I can't afford to
  1827. 59:32do that but here's what I can do and how
  1828. 59:34can we make this happen and things are
  1829. 59:35just going so much I think you make the
  1830. 59:37best out of any situation when you're
  1831. 59:38honestly yeah it's like people are just
  1832. 59:40like it's refreshing right yeah and
  1833. 59:41people will fight for you if you're just
  1834. 59:43honest about what you can and can't do
  1835. 59:44sure learning about your weaknesses and
  1836. 59:46it's getting a [ __ ] amazing team have
  1837. 59:49you built like a completely new team
  1838. 59:50this time around have a totally new team
  1839. 59:52uh there's like 12 of us who are pretty
  1840. 59:54much close to full time right now so
  1841. 59:55we're still small moving Squad right
  1842. 59:57here uh this is definitely part of the
  1843. 59:59pirate crew right here so we're trying
  1844. 1:00:01to build as fast as we can it's still
  1845. 1:00:03nice who like would it just be us or
  1846. 1:00:05like we're gonna invite some chicks
  1847. 1:00:07we'll invite some people guys we gotta
  1848. 1:00:10need we gotta make it happen yeah like
  1849. 1:00:13like the same type of squad like before
  1850. 1:00:15like Kendall like that type yeah can we
  1851. 1:00:16get them I don't know we gotta take it
  1852. 1:00:19step by step we can have a good time do
  1853. 1:00:23you have any relationship with John
  1854. 1:00:24anymore
  1855. 1:00:25uh no
  1856. 1:00:27um no uh dude like incredible salesman
  1857. 1:00:30yeah super charismatic guy
  1858. 1:00:33but when [ __ ] hit the fan he'd already
  1859. 1:00:35been to jail
  1860. 1:00:36I'm not going back if you commit an
  1861. 1:00:38offense a second time it's way worse so
  1862. 1:00:41at the first chance to cover his ass you
  1863. 1:00:44know he did yeah so does that does that
  1864. 1:00:46bug you at all that you're the only one
  1865. 1:00:47that went down uh
  1866. 1:00:49no because I was like dude I was the
  1867. 1:00:51[ __ ] most I was guilty you know I was
  1868. 1:00:53responsible for everything I think what
  1869. 1:00:55bugs me is people taking credit for
  1870. 1:00:57things they didn't do
  1871. 1:00:58well in reality there's like there are
  1872. 1:01:00hundreds of people who are working on
  1873. 1:01:01fire right so like the good marketing
  1874. 1:01:03stuff wasn't like one person's idea it
  1875. 1:01:05was many many people working together
  1876. 1:01:06yeah someone guys were saying oh well
  1877. 1:01:08I'm not responsible but you know all
  1878. 1:01:10seven good things that happen were all
  1879. 1:01:11because of me like I think that's lame
  1880. 1:01:13as [ __ ] like sure either was you or it
  1881. 1:01:14wasn't you that's it pisses me off the
  1882. 1:01:16most like I don't blame him for covering
  1883. 1:01:18his ass if he doesn't go to jail again
  1884. 1:01:19he has got a family he's got things more
  1885. 1:01:21important than like me to him but you
  1886. 1:01:23know don't take responsibility for [ __ ]
  1887. 1:01:25that you know many many talented people
  1888. 1:01:27right did that pisses me off why he was
  1889. 1:01:30taking credit yeah just taking credit
  1890. 1:01:31for for like for things that went well
  1891. 1:01:34you know when it wasn't you know it
  1892. 1:01:36wasn't one person it was many many like
  1893. 1:01:38you guys know dude like you have a great
  1894. 1:01:39idea in your business you bounce it off
  1895. 1:01:40Five Guys like it changes ten times
  1896. 1:01:42before you launch it like yeah that's
  1897. 1:01:43how this [ __ ] works it's not one person
  1898. 1:01:45who does one good thing but doesn't do
  1899. 1:01:46one bad thing it's not how it works but
  1900. 1:01:48yeah damn yeah I think I got all that I
  1901. 1:01:50don't know I haven't heard anything
  1902. 1:01:51about him in five years so yeah you're
  1903. 1:01:53moving on yeah are you excited for the
  1904. 1:01:55future dude I'm worried at all pumped
  1905. 1:01:57like
  1906. 1:01:58it's been two months and I'm trying to
  1907. 1:02:01catch up it's like I felt like the first
  1908. 1:02:02couple weeks what have you been doing
  1909. 1:02:04these past two months I didn't have a
  1910. 1:02:05phone for four years yeah like uh I mean
  1911. 1:02:08no cell phone the last two years they
  1912. 1:02:09took away my pay phone after the podcast
  1913. 1:02:11incident so I feel like no contact with
  1914. 1:02:13the world
  1915. 1:02:14but it's like you know kind of getting
  1916. 1:02:15back to life super super pumped for the
  1917. 1:02:18UFC on Saturday oh of course um uh I
  1918. 1:02:22don't know one of my I haven't reached
  1919. 1:02:23out yet but one of my childhood Jiu
  1920. 1:02:25Jitsu instructors Fighters fighting for
  1921. 1:02:26the title so I'm gonna shoot him a DM
  1922. 1:02:28tonight to CP see if he can talk to me
  1923. 1:02:30uh so Plano Cruise was my high school
  1924. 1:02:32coach in Alex Pereira is his fighter so
  1925. 1:02:35wow yeah plinio if you're listening I'm
  1926. 1:02:37gonna DM you tonight so please you're a
  1927. 1:02:38big UFC fan yeah big UFC fan I've done
  1928. 1:02:40Jiu Jitsu for a while so what are your
  1929. 1:02:42predictions for Saturday
  1930. 1:02:44dude I gotta go with the Brazilian gotta
  1931. 1:02:46go with Alex Pereira you know it was
  1932. 1:02:48super cool training with plinio in high
  1933. 1:02:49school so excited to see you got Poirier
  1934. 1:02:51or Chandler
  1935. 1:02:53I'm a Poirier fan yeah yeah I think he's
  1936. 1:02:55fine so Chandler's gonna win for sure
  1937. 1:02:57yeah
  1938. 1:02:59okay yeah he's a wrong gear guy oh wow
  1939. 1:03:02that's dope yeah you guys beef ever or
  1940. 1:03:05no me and him B yeah why would I be for
  1941. 1:03:07I don't know I'm not beefing the UFC guy
  1942. 1:03:09what the [ __ ] get your story up or
  1943. 1:03:10something okay
  1944. 1:03:11well like you know I want to train with
  1945. 1:03:14him so do you train
  1946. 1:03:16uh do I train because he train he's
  1947. 1:03:18offended right now that you're outside
  1948. 1:03:19oh that was that was funny
  1949. 1:03:22he probably meant like in in the the
  1950. 1:03:24fighting respects like martial arts yeah
  1951. 1:03:26I've done BJJ I've done stuff like that
  1952. 1:03:27I haven't trained super consistently but
  1953. 1:03:29but I train yes of course I train
  1954. 1:03:31awesome do you have any other hobbies
  1955. 1:03:33that you do like that are just random or
  1956. 1:03:35dude like a lot of Jiu Jitsu been doing
  1957. 1:03:37a lot of Muay Thai recently too it's
  1958. 1:03:38like like the martial arts um I used to
  1959. 1:03:40fly a little bit just like learning from
  1960. 1:03:42these trips so I like to fly and just
  1961. 1:03:43love the water like love scuba diving
  1962. 1:03:45love free diving you know [ __ ] jet
  1963. 1:03:47skis of course I know you made fun of a
  1964. 1:03:48lot [ __ ] Bahamas baby let's go just
  1965. 1:03:51live the life so wait wait when should
  1966. 1:03:52we go so we're like when are we aiming
  1967. 1:03:54to go I don't want to say on camera and
  1968. 1:03:56like get turned down but you see he's
  1969. 1:03:58getting better looking for it man like
  1970. 1:03:59he's getting better people shoot for it
  1971. 1:04:01it's like what's a rough flip like dude
  1972. 1:04:03like I'm actually six months
  1973. 1:04:06period I'm gonna get too excited and be
  1974. 1:04:09like let's go no dates yet no dates
  1975. 1:04:11tomorrow Slow Me Down guys three days no
  1976. 1:04:13what do you think though like what's a
  1977. 1:04:15window no no I don't know I actually
  1978. 1:04:17want to know myself oh yeah is this a
  1979. 1:04:19year is this like next month is it six
  1980. 1:04:21months
  1981. 1:04:23I would hope in the next year it's the
  1982. 1:04:25next year okay in the next year so yeah
  1983. 1:04:27okay so we're like we won't be going for
  1984. 1:04:29a year
  1985. 1:04:30to this and guys don't hold me to this
  1986. 1:04:32but we're gonna [ __ ] make this happen
  1987. 1:04:34all right
  1988. 1:04:35I get it [ __ ] it's so funny
  1989. 1:04:38[ __ ] no I was just excited to go but
  1990. 1:04:41like this time can't promise was gonna
  1991. 1:04:42happen when we land I mean dude no one's
  1992. 1:04:44gonna hit you guys but it's gonna happen
  1993. 1:04:45to me but we'll have a good team there
  1994. 1:04:46to yeah we're gonna have to security
  1995. 1:04:48yeah
  1996. 1:04:49[ __ ] it's gonna be good
  1997. 1:04:51that's funny man I guess like guys on
  1998. 1:04:54the team like you you know the story
  1999. 1:04:55it's like what do you think we should
  2000. 1:04:56talk about to make this podcast really
  2001. 1:04:59go I feel like I'm kind of vanilla in my
  2002. 1:05:00answers so I think you've been really
  2003. 1:05:02good yeah you're doing you guys did any
  2004. 1:05:04of like the like the Jenners ever like
  2005. 1:05:06what was your interaction with like that
  2006. 1:05:08yeah because well sorry that's they took
  2007. 1:05:10they took some backlash for promoting it
  2008. 1:05:12yeah understood did they'll ever come
  2009. 1:05:14back to you from them uh no obviously
  2010. 1:05:16not but like dude you just can't you
  2011. 1:05:18know it's none of their fault right if
  2012. 1:05:20your company is like seemingly doing
  2013. 1:05:22super super well it's just impossible
  2014. 1:05:24for
  2015. 1:05:25every person to do like full due
  2016. 1:05:27diligence like it's just not it's not
  2017. 1:05:28practical so I think like the public
  2018. 1:05:30like backlash and lawsuits against like
  2019. 1:05:32the artists and talent is just such
  2020. 1:05:34[ __ ] [ __ ] kind of unmerited yeah
  2021. 1:05:35yeah so many kind of stuff out there who
  2022. 1:05:38just try to take advantage and like line
  2023. 1:05:39their own pockets and it's like it makes
  2024. 1:05:41me sick it's like it's not their fault
  2025. 1:05:42who got a bigger bag uh rajakowski or
  2026. 1:05:44Baldwin oh man it's a good question
  2027. 1:05:48probably ragic I don't know man this was
  2028. 1:05:50pretty Bieber right pre-bieber too oh
  2029. 1:05:54Emily van dude
  2030. 1:05:56yeah like I I I I for sure I think
  2031. 1:05:59Emily's is twice as much yeah what what
  2032. 1:06:01did they get paid to come out she's
  2033. 1:06:03gonna be pissed to hear that wow it's
  2034. 1:06:05just like
  2035. 1:06:08uh yeah I don't know man yeah you don't
  2036. 1:06:10remember some people were great some
  2037. 1:06:13people weren't great but you know like
  2038. 1:06:14what did you have to pay them how much
  2039. 1:06:16Haley was
  2040. 1:06:18I've only known Haley from one trip
  2041. 1:06:20super respectful yeah you know very
  2042. 1:06:22talented she had a great time she was
  2043. 1:06:23very professional and awesome I'm sure
  2044. 1:06:26she commands like crazy top dollars
  2045. 1:06:28right now but she was like she was a
  2046. 1:06:29beast at her job and like awesome uh she
  2047. 1:06:32did get to experience the zero gravity
  2048. 1:06:34so we had a nice plane ride together so
  2049. 1:06:35I'm sure she had some you turn the plane
  2050. 1:06:37off on that one so we basically you tilt
  2051. 1:06:40the plane up in the air and he cut the
  2052. 1:06:41engine and it's like it's like a 1960s
  2053. 1:06:44crop duster like the thing [ __ ] is a
  2054. 1:06:45piece of [ __ ] and you let the plane
  2055. 1:06:47float down so you're literally floating
  2056. 1:06:49in the plane like spinning each other in
  2057. 1:06:50the air now when it gets too low you ram
  2058. 1:06:52the engine and catch it
  2059. 1:06:54so we should grab it together on the
  2060. 1:06:56plane but yeah that was that was a fun
  2061. 1:06:57time
  2062. 1:06:58so you can't say how much they got paid
  2063. 1:07:01I don't wanna know
  2064. 1:07:02I mean people people were paid fairly
  2065. 1:07:05for that uh and then like I think what
  2066. 1:07:07pissed me off the most is like when they
  2067. 1:07:10got sued for getting paid like they did
  2068. 1:07:12everything they were supposed to do
  2069. 1:07:13right they showed up they did the shoot
  2070. 1:07:15they did promotion like it's not their
  2071. 1:07:17fault that I [ __ ] up the logistics so I
  2072. 1:07:19understand the mindset like in my own
  2073. 1:07:21little world I thought I could do
  2074. 1:07:23whatever I wanted to do yeah and like
  2075. 1:07:24looking back it's [ __ ] [ __ ] but I
  2076. 1:07:26can see how other people fall down that
  2077. 1:07:27same trap
  2078. 1:07:28all right we're going to interrupt the
  2079. 1:07:30podcast really really quick we're gonna
  2080. 1:07:31get back to it but if you guys are
  2081. 1:07:32watching we're doing a new full sun
  2082. 1:07:34clothing drop on November 28th I'm gonna
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  2091. 1:07:53your calendars Monday November 28th at 8
  2092. 1:07:5630 p.m eastern time the full sun holiday
  2093. 1:07:59drop we haven't done a drop in a very
  2094. 1:08:00very long time so if you guys want to
  2095. 1:08:02support us grab a piece it's a great
  2096. 1:08:04Christmas gift too everything's gonna
  2097. 1:08:05ship Before Christmas let's get back
  2098. 1:08:07into the podcast where what part of town
  2099. 1:08:09do you live in uh I'm in bedside
  2100. 1:08:11Brooklyn right now right so yeah
  2101. 1:08:13hopefully we'll get back to Manhattan
  2102. 1:08:15once I once I can make some money again
  2103. 1:08:17but yeah taking my time
  2104. 1:08:19so is this your first Venture like this
  2105. 1:08:21is how you're making money as pirate
  2106. 1:08:22doing pirate like getting decent like
  2107. 1:08:24media sponsorship marketing deals so I
  2108. 1:08:27feel like companies are coming to us
  2109. 1:08:28saying hey we know you can market so
  2110. 1:08:30using that to fund pirate at this point
  2111. 1:08:32you said you follow him on tick tock
  2112. 1:08:34what's that you saw him on Tick Tock no
  2113. 1:08:36I was joking I was just like are you on
  2114. 1:08:37Tick Tock I started Tick Tock how many
  2115. 1:08:40followers do you have I have like 2 000
  2116. 1:08:42followers to help me out guys nice I'm
  2117. 1:08:44clueless what are you doing like selfie
  2118. 1:08:46video ones literally like hey guys I'm
  2119. 1:08:48coming out with something new like stay
  2120. 1:08:49tuned Sonny's trying to get some advice
  2121. 1:08:52I just want to see how it's doing for
  2122. 1:08:54you I should do a collab you just maybe
  2123. 1:08:56we will go all the time
  2124. 1:08:58do the 21. you [ __ ] loser
  2125. 1:09:02what did your first Tick Tock get when
  2126. 1:09:03you posted it
  2127. 1:09:05I think we almost have 200 000 views and
  2128. 1:09:07guys for me like a social media [ __ ]
  2129. 1:09:08loser's pretty cool like I've been out
  2130. 1:09:10of the game what was the first post uh
  2131. 1:09:12basically saying I'm back I want to make
  2132. 1:09:15this up to everybody I've got something
  2133. 1:09:16new but this time everybody's invited so
  2134. 1:09:20that's the message and we've literally
  2135. 1:09:21started the comments like I gotta know I
  2136. 1:09:23can't read them yeah dude I'm too much
  2137. 1:09:25[ __ ] like I just get so mad what's your
  2138. 1:09:27Instagram uh uh pirate Billy p-y-r-t
  2139. 1:09:30Billy is it [ __ ] if you read the
  2140. 1:09:32comments comments are pretty bad are
  2141. 1:09:34they bad can you handle it or not here
  2142. 1:09:36and do I hate it no that's actually
  2143. 1:09:38really funny we should read some of them
  2144. 1:09:39I hate it this is on your first video
  2145. 1:09:42right
  2146. 1:09:43I'm not sure what you're looking at but
  2147. 1:09:44wait can you send me the link
  2148. 1:09:46well this isn't my phone oh okay wait
  2149. 1:09:49but this is on his tick tock on his page
  2150. 1:09:50this is on a tick tock it's actually
  2151. 1:09:52funny because people cut people troll
  2152. 1:09:53people creative bro yeah Tick Tock
  2153. 1:09:56Savage dude uh fire Festival 2.0
  2154. 1:09:59building
  2155. 1:10:06Society loves giving people who bring no
  2156. 1:10:08productive value to anything Second
  2157. 1:10:10Chances so I fully expect to see this
  2158. 1:10:12guy rich as successful in one year what
  2159. 1:10:14do you think about that
  2160. 1:10:16that's an interesting one
  2161. 1:10:18because I mean social media listen there
  2162. 1:10:20are some interesting shots I guess my
  2163. 1:10:22biggest like and I'm probably so wrong
  2164. 1:10:23for thinkiness but it's like I have so
  2165. 1:10:25many of my own problems that I'm so
  2166. 1:10:27worried about
  2167. 1:10:29what kind of person doesn't have enough
  2168. 1:10:32problems where they can have time to go
  2169. 1:10:34shooting somebody else online and like I
  2170. 1:10:35hope I get that your lawyer is freaking
  2171. 1:10:37out right now hold on probably before
  2172. 1:10:40you kind of talk about that comment I
  2173. 1:10:41also think it's important note that like
  2174. 1:10:43you did do something yeah you [ __ ]
  2175. 1:10:45something up and you lied to a bunch of
  2176. 1:10:46people but you still were able to pull
  2177. 1:10:48together something that like most people
  2178. 1:10:50couldn't pull together like you did you
  2179. 1:10:53did tell some lies along the way
  2180. 1:10:54obviously for sure here but like
  2181. 1:10:56regardless I don't know I can't name 10
  2182. 1:10:59people who all like were able to
  2183. 1:11:00actually even get even to finesse to
  2184. 1:11:02that point right like you just kind of
  2185. 1:11:04you over promise and under delivered and
  2186. 1:11:07you you got [ __ ] but like that's not a
  2187. 1:11:10normal thing for most people to be able
  2188. 1:11:11to pull together so I think there's
  2189. 1:11:13there's I'm not saying hey it's a good
  2190. 1:11:14thing you did it but if you take the
  2191. 1:11:16things that you've done and the things
  2192. 1:11:17you've learned along the way now like
  2193. 1:11:18you said the honesty and your skills
  2194. 1:11:20prior and your skills current that you
  2195. 1:11:22you know you obviously have a new team
  2196. 1:11:23it's like why couldn't you be successful
  2197. 1:11:25in less than a year yeah you know so I
  2198. 1:11:26think it's very reasonable to think that
  2199. 1:11:28yeah I hope I get a chance thank you
  2200. 1:11:29yeah well no I agree but I think uh the
  2201. 1:11:32marketing I think you were a step ahead
  2202. 1:11:33of people for sure when it came to the
  2203. 1:11:35marketing like absolutely that was the
  2204. 1:11:37first time you ever saw all those models
  2205. 1:11:38otherwise it wouldn't have happened it
  2206. 1:11:39was crazy bro that changed everything
  2207. 1:11:40putting those models together and like
  2208. 1:11:42them posting about it was a game changer
  2209. 1:11:45yeah
  2210. 1:11:48yeah it's about going do you guys see it
  2211. 1:11:50when we posted it or no I saw when he
  2212. 1:11:52posted I was like what the [ __ ] is this
  2213. 1:11:54nice yeah yeah no I saw it yeah he's
  2214. 1:11:57probably sold some tickets on the side
  2215. 1:11:58yeah oh what the [ __ ] how much are you
  2216. 1:12:01standing
  2217. 1:12:02there's a season two I don't have it I
  2218. 1:12:06just want to know what my dad is
  2219. 1:12:08bro that's crazy season two coming soon
  2220. 1:12:10or what yeah but yeah I really hope you
  2221. 1:12:12guys can come back with us I think that
  2222. 1:12:15is
  2223. 1:12:15the festival please or try attempting
  2224. 1:12:19dude like all pirate is all about taking
  2225. 1:12:21people to places that I think are
  2226. 1:12:22impossible so I mean I have to do a
  2227. 1:12:24Pirate Fest right it's like it can't be
  2228. 1:12:26tomorrow it can't be in four months but
  2229. 1:12:27there's gonna be a Pirate Fest it's
  2230. 1:12:29gonna be like imagine number of people
  2231. 1:12:31and but like we're gonna do it in a
  2232. 1:12:33really unique
  2233. 1:12:34unique way but you know Pirate Fest and
  2234. 1:12:37you gotta do it just to like show that
  2235. 1:12:39you can't do it
  2236. 1:12:41just [ __ ] get a story of one artist
  2237. 1:12:43and fans there and then having a good
  2238. 1:12:44time and you're proven people wrong 100
  2239. 1:12:46and the island is so beautiful and it's
  2240. 1:12:48fun like naked activities get some good
  2241. 1:12:50music and you're gonna meet fun people
  2242. 1:12:53and have a great day you do have to do a
  2243. 1:12:55festival honestly a point too because
  2244. 1:12:57like there's already so much built up
  2245. 1:12:59behind it that like if you finally do it
  2246. 1:13:01it's like a whole nother [ __ ] like
  2247. 1:13:03Netflix thing I'm going if there's a
  2248. 1:13:04festival I'm there I'm going dude thank
  2249. 1:13:06you guys I think the cool thing is
  2250. 1:13:07people will go just to see what happens
  2251. 1:13:09exactly people who hate me will be the
  2252. 1:13:12first ones to want to come like yo I got
  2253. 1:13:13a beer [ __ ] on this guy
  2254. 1:13:15come on let's go yeah just fruit just
  2255. 1:13:19you know prove them wrong this time
  2256. 1:13:21yeah outside of time what do you think
  2257. 1:13:23was the biggest mistake you made lying
  2258. 1:13:25and it's like I think like just people
  2259. 1:13:28now I think are just going so much
  2260. 1:13:30harder like for me with me because I'm
  2261. 1:13:32honest and dude it's like so [ __ ]
  2262. 1:13:34refreshing and I hated being that guy
  2263. 1:13:36it's like hey I'm lying to people and
  2264. 1:13:38I'm getting all these boats and planes
  2265. 1:13:40but I'm in the back like nervous as [ __ ]
  2266. 1:13:42like on my computer like did the wire
  2267. 1:13:43hit can I pay for this yacht tomorrow or
  2268. 1:13:45is like or is Bella Hadid gonna laugh at
  2269. 1:13:47me because I can't [ __ ] fly her home
  2270. 1:13:48it was so funny though it was funny to
  2271. 1:13:51see all the people get fooled like I'm
  2272. 1:13:53not gonna lie I like when they walk I'm
  2273. 1:13:54human because it's a bunch of rich
  2274. 1:13:56people like spending it one night in the
  2275. 1:13:57Bahamas yeah and they thought they were
  2276. 1:13:59getting a villa and then they just got
  2277. 1:14:00the tent with the [ __ ] beds and [ __ ]
  2278. 1:14:02yeah
  2279. 1:14:05they just got waxed terrible oh looking
  2280. 1:14:08back it's like obvious but how did I I
  2281. 1:14:10don't know man bad [ __ ] it's slightly
  2282. 1:14:13funny I can't even lie I think it was so
  2283. 1:14:16crazy and like looking back now and like
  2284. 1:14:18having zero credit like not like
  2285. 1:14:20literally but like socially the credit
  2286. 1:14:22system that we had was just absurd it's
  2287. 1:14:25like I could be on the island and say
  2288. 1:14:27hey I need three planes and two yachts
  2289. 1:14:28and they would arrive in two hours and
  2290. 1:14:30no one would tell me a price no one
  2291. 1:14:31would ask for payment and like that was
  2292. 1:14:34absolutely like insane everybody wanted
  2293. 1:14:36to be around Talent whether it's models
  2294. 1:14:39like Instagram attention and I feel like
  2295. 1:14:41everything was there and the bills would
  2296. 1:14:42come months later and I couldn't pay
  2297. 1:14:43them of course but like you know the
  2298. 1:14:45credit that we had built up was just
  2299. 1:14:47from the star power yeah just from like
  2300. 1:14:49the Intrigue and people want to be a
  2301. 1:14:51part of it and there was no questions
  2302. 1:14:52it's like it felt like anything that we
  2303. 1:14:54wanted to order was like on demand and
  2304. 1:14:55it was like it took me to this like
  2305. 1:14:57false reality where
  2306. 1:14:59I just [ __ ] up it's like when you're
  2307. 1:15:00ordering room service and you get the
  2308. 1:15:02bill later and you're like yeah
  2309. 1:15:04a couple boats and planes yeah exactly
  2310. 1:15:06when you do stuff now are you just like
  2311. 1:15:08do you think like all right 26 milli
  2312. 1:15:11gotta pay that like does that change the
  2313. 1:15:13way that you operate when I first got to
  2314. 1:15:16jail 100 that's where I started [ __ ]
  2315. 1:15:18up I was trying to do this stupid book
  2316. 1:15:19got in trouble tried to do a podcast got
  2317. 1:15:22in trouble and now it's okay if I make a
  2318. 1:15:24thousand dollars and pay you know
  2319. 1:15:25whatever percent I have to restitution
  2320. 1:15:27like that's what it is and as soon as I
  2321. 1:15:29start thinking like about big numbers
  2322. 1:15:31like I'll make bad decisions so it's not
  2323. 1:15:32about the money it is about the money
  2324. 1:15:34but it can't be but the money in the
  2325. 1:15:35short term it's like go and do cool [ __ ]
  2326. 1:15:37do it honestly make a positive impact
  2327. 1:15:40and show a bunch of people something
  2328. 1:15:42they never could have [ __ ] dreamed of
  2329. 1:15:43like money always comes when you do
  2330. 1:15:45money will come if I can if I can do it
  2331. 1:15:47yeah exactly I can do the cool [ __ ] that
  2332. 1:15:49I was doing on a small scale and share
  2333. 1:15:52it with people the money will hopefully
  2334. 1:15:53come yeah and this just out of my
  2335. 1:15:56curiosity what do you think is the
  2336. 1:15:57biggest lie that you told to one of the
  2337. 1:15:59investors dude I love that question in
  2338. 1:16:01fact the obvious answer is that I had
  2339. 1:16:03more money than I said I had or our
  2340. 1:16:05revenue is higher I said it was going to
  2341. 1:16:07be
  2342. 1:16:10I think it was like
  2343. 1:16:12pretending that I understood what the
  2344. 1:16:14[ __ ] I was doing
  2345. 1:16:16like Logistics logistic wise yeah it's
  2346. 1:16:19like
  2347. 1:16:20oh we don't have water okay how do we
  2348. 1:16:22get water well you take salt water and
  2349. 1:16:24you do reverse osmosis into fresh water
  2350. 1:16:25and like oh now I think I know how to do
  2351. 1:16:27that I know a [ __ ] idea to do reverse
  2352. 1:16:29osmosis right so I think it's like more
  2353. 1:16:31about like lying about what I thought I
  2354. 1:16:33could do was the worst lie that I could
  2355. 1:16:36have had because then people didn't know
  2356. 1:16:37how to help
  2357. 1:16:38oh [ __ ] oh I know how to do that then
  2358. 1:16:40the person steps back and say okay you
  2359. 1:16:42got that like you don't need my help
  2360. 1:16:44whereas if I could have said like dude I
  2361. 1:16:45have no idea how to get [ __ ] water on
  2362. 1:16:47this island like I had enough like
  2363. 1:16:49powerful investors and advisors they're
  2364. 1:16:50not delegating properly I wasn't
  2365. 1:16:52delegating properly they would have
  2366. 1:16:53called someone who actually knew what
  2367. 1:16:55they were doing to help me so it was
  2368. 1:16:56lying about my skill set damn because
  2369. 1:16:58that sucks because like you could have
  2370. 1:17:00changed that yeah like straight up just
  2371. 1:17:01by like and obviously we're going back
  2372. 1:17:03in circles now like telling the truth
  2373. 1:17:04and saying hey I need this I need
  2374. 1:17:05someone to give me this advice they
  2375. 1:17:07would have been like sure sure dude just
  2376. 1:17:09saying you don't know is like so much
  2377. 1:17:11better than pretending like you do know
  2378. 1:17:12what was the toughest thing to do like
  2379. 1:17:15to get done for a music festival what's
  2380. 1:17:17the hardest thing to accomplish
  2381. 1:17:19I think I hired way too quickly I just
  2382. 1:17:22didn't know how to manage hundreds of
  2383. 1:17:24people
  2384. 1:17:24and like every day was a fire like you
  2385. 1:17:27know literally right trying to solve a
  2386. 1:17:29problem so the company doesn't go under
  2387. 1:17:30and not understanding how to give
  2388. 1:17:32hundreds of people the attention and
  2389. 1:17:34guidance they need to actually come
  2390. 1:17:36together and make something happen have
  2391. 1:17:37you seen like the viral picture of like
  2392. 1:17:39the two pieces of bread and the cheese
  2393. 1:17:41yeah
  2394. 1:17:42um
  2395. 1:17:43what is that all right dude it's like
  2396. 1:17:46the food that's what's portrayed social
  2397. 1:17:48media experts if we serve 3
  2398. 1:17:51000
  2399. 1:17:52connected people cheese sandwiches there
  2400. 1:17:55would be more than one picture
  2401. 1:17:56sure that's my that's my defense who's
  2402. 1:17:58actually all right the food was fine
  2403. 1:18:00food was fine it wasn't like it was not
  2404. 1:18:01great the food was fine
  2405. 1:18:03and then what happened to me and Andy
  2406. 1:18:06King actually told me this later was two
  2407. 1:18:07kids got super high came up to Andy King
  2408. 1:18:09and said hey man all I really wanted to
  2409. 1:18:10cheese sandwich so that's what he made
  2410. 1:18:12for them and that one picture went viral
  2411. 1:18:13damn yeah so it's like but like if you
  2412. 1:18:16serve 3 000 of those it'd be more than
  2413. 1:18:18just one you know trash can with a
  2414. 1:18:19sandwich but like once again totally
  2415. 1:18:22under deliver on the food and [ __ ] it
  2416. 1:18:23up but it was not all cheese sandwiches
  2417. 1:18:25however when I first got to Jail uh I
  2418. 1:18:28thought it was funny they gave me my
  2419. 1:18:29first day there they gave me a lunch
  2420. 1:18:30yeah that's what I'm saying who you were
  2421. 1:18:33yeah so they trolled you yeah that's
  2422. 1:18:35dope so a lot of people recognized you
  2423. 1:18:37in there
  2424. 1:18:38um people just watch the news all day
  2425. 1:18:39long oh right there's a couple of TVs so
  2426. 1:18:42it's not like they're super super behind
  2427. 1:18:44like on everything so it's all like you
  2428. 1:18:45know the morning shows and like the talk
  2429. 1:18:47shows but people watched a lot of news
  2430. 1:18:49damn and they try to connect like like
  2431. 1:18:51if you're in there you feel better about
  2432. 1:18:52yourself when you see somebody else
  2433. 1:18:54getting in trouble like even if you
  2434. 1:18:55don't want to admit it so everybody
  2435. 1:18:57watches like all the crime shows and
  2436. 1:18:59like behind jail shows it's all big did
  2437. 1:19:01you pull an all-nighter that night
  2438. 1:19:03from the festival yeah yeah it was it
  2439. 1:19:05was brutal did it when did it kick in
  2440. 1:19:07like yo I could be [ __ ] I was
  2441. 1:19:08literally told three people died
  2442. 1:19:10and the ways I was told they died were
  2443. 1:19:12just so [ __ ] wild and like if I had
  2444. 1:19:15any stable mind at the time I would have
  2445. 1:19:17understood it wasn't true and I'm like
  2446. 1:19:19[ __ ] like I can't handle this like let's
  2447. 1:19:20cancel this immediately that's what led
  2448. 1:19:22me to cancel it but thankfully no one
  2449. 1:19:24got hurt and that was all [ __ ] but
  2450. 1:19:25like that was why someone lied to do
  2451. 1:19:27what they say how they say they died I
  2452. 1:19:28was told someone got shot someone got
  2453. 1:19:30bit by a pig and someone was just
  2454. 1:19:31kidnapped and missing who told you that
  2455. 1:19:33just random people who were working
  2456. 1:19:34there so Jesus stuff like obviously no
  2457. 1:19:37one got bit by a pig and died there are
  2458. 1:19:38the pigs in the Bahamas but like in my
  2459. 1:19:40mindset I'm like oh [ __ ] the pigs came
  2460. 1:19:41like I can't handle this they're like
  2461. 1:19:43kill those pigs are friendly yeah but
  2462. 1:19:45there's people on Twitter saying shots
  2463. 1:19:46fired we're hearing gunfire was all it's
  2464. 1:19:48all false but I'm seeing the tweets
  2465. 1:19:49hearing the rumors
  2466. 1:19:51and it was because people were like
  2467. 1:19:53starting to get mad they're getting mad
  2468. 1:19:54and like I was literally like on the
  2469. 1:19:56phone with the reporter on like they
  2470. 1:19:58were literally I'm not gonna mention the
  2471. 1:19:59publication but they were live streaming
  2472. 1:20:01me on their homepage their website
  2473. 1:20:02standing on this milk carton like and
  2474. 1:20:04then I was already talking to him on the
  2475. 1:20:06phone while they were live streaming
  2476. 1:20:08they're like we have reports that you
  2477. 1:20:09ran away and you're yacht with all these
  2478. 1:20:11supermodels and cocaine it's like dude
  2479. 1:20:13you [ __ ] idiots you're literally live
  2480. 1:20:14streaming like right here right in the
  2481. 1:20:16middle of this and like it was just like
  2482. 1:20:17so overwhelming and
  2483. 1:20:21what was jaw doing at that point uh
  2484. 1:20:25night of he hadn't gotten there yet he
  2485. 1:20:27had a concert somewhere in Middle
  2486. 1:20:28America and he was gonna fly in on I
  2487. 1:20:30think on Friday and it was canceled late
  2488. 1:20:31Thursday night did he text you me like
  2489. 1:20:33yo bro like good luck anything for sure
  2490. 1:20:36I mean like yeah what was the falling
  2491. 1:20:39out like I mean as soon as
  2492. 1:20:41I don't know if I should say this but
  2493. 1:20:42[ __ ] it as soon as uh as soon as the FBI
  2494. 1:20:45came to see me my lawyer got a call from
  2495. 1:20:47his lawyer and as Larry basically said
  2496. 1:20:49we're going in tomorrow to proffer I
  2497. 1:20:51don't know what that means but they're
  2498. 1:20:52basically going to tell them everything
  2499. 1:20:53of course so he went in like the next
  2500. 1:20:55day and you know my lawyer is like if
  2501. 1:20:57you call him again I'm not gonna
  2502. 1:20:59represent you yeah so that was that was
  2503. 1:21:01into that
  2504. 1:21:02contact
  2505. 1:21:04yeah no interest I haven't heard
  2506. 1:21:07anything about him in five years so I'm
  2507. 1:21:09super focused on pirate yeah have you
  2508. 1:21:11like reached out to anybody to try and
  2509. 1:21:12work with them and they've just been
  2510. 1:21:13like yo Billy sorry dude I'm not gonna
  2511. 1:21:15[ __ ] yeah I wrote a lot of letters in
  2512. 1:21:16solitary like mostly apologizing people
  2513. 1:21:19took employees investors advisors some
  2514. 1:21:23responded then but like in the past like
  2515. 1:21:25two weeks I'm starting to get a lot of
  2516. 1:21:27people reaching back out probably get
  2517. 1:21:28more after this bottle probably and
  2518. 1:21:31dudes like hard emotionally it's like I
  2519. 1:21:34really I feel really bad for the
  2520. 1:21:35investor that I definitely [ __ ] over
  2521. 1:21:37who like wrote that letter asking for a
  2522. 1:21:38life sentence but like do I have the
  2523. 1:21:40self-respect to respond or is it like I
  2524. 1:21:42was totally wrong I should respond like
  2525. 1:21:44these things I just don't know how to
  2526. 1:21:45handle at this point do you know how
  2527. 1:21:47what do you mean go ahead what happened
  2528. 1:21:49say sorry basically to the guy who's
  2529. 1:21:51like yo you I hope you had a lifestyle
  2530. 1:21:53how much did that guy give uh that
  2531. 1:21:56investor gave
  2532. 1:21:57I I don't want to say because people are
  2533. 1:21:59gonna know who it is then but it was
  2534. 1:22:00true it was a it was a meaningful amount
  2535. 1:22:01of money and they're for sure wronged
  2536. 1:22:03and like they deserve to be mad at the
  2537. 1:22:05judge but it's like you asked to take
  2538. 1:22:07away my entire life and now you want to
  2539. 1:22:08get together it's like how do I how does
  2540. 1:22:10anybody that's like yo maybe you took
  2541. 1:22:11away his life because he gave his
  2542. 1:22:13savings to you for sure and that and I
  2543. 1:22:15could totally like be wrong here but I
  2544. 1:22:17think I might just conflicted like
  2545. 1:22:18emotionally yeah on that and like this
  2546. 1:22:20crazy small world like I had a a former
  2547. 1:22:23employee
  2548. 1:22:24um he was a core member of the team you
  2549. 1:22:26know talented guy when things went wrong
  2550. 1:22:28he was you know quick they pass blame
  2551. 1:22:29and he's like he probably thought he
  2552. 1:22:32would never hear from me again five
  2553. 1:22:33years ago right I get a call a couple of
  2554. 1:22:35days ago from you know advisor I really
  2555. 1:22:37respect and this guy's applying for a
  2556. 1:22:39job at his friend's company and the CEO
  2557. 1:22:41of that company called him because they
  2558. 1:22:42knew he knew me and like should we hire
  2559. 1:22:44this guy so like I gave I think a fair
  2560. 1:22:47but good review but it's like that's for
  2561. 1:22:48your approval yeah that's how small the
  2562. 1:22:50world is like this dude is like yo Billy
  2563. 1:22:51is done [ __ ] him and this is a
  2564. 1:22:53middle-aged guy is now applying for a
  2565. 1:22:55job and just doesn't realize that like
  2566. 1:22:56I'm not the only say but I definitely
  2567. 1:22:58had
  2568. 1:22:59you know serious weight in that decision
  2569. 1:23:00which is crazy how the world where
  2570. 1:23:02people are pretty quick to burn Bridges
  2571. 1:23:03and for sure maybe sometimes it
  2572. 1:23:04shouldn't for sure it's like dude it's
  2573. 1:23:06just not worth it what's your mental
  2574. 1:23:08state been like like since you got out
  2575. 1:23:09of jail like you say like the comments
  2576. 1:23:11kind of bother you and stuff like is it
  2577. 1:23:13tough to overcome something as like
  2578. 1:23:15crazy and viral like that's what
  2579. 1:23:17happened to you yeah I want like good
  2580. 1:23:19friends but not a lot of good friends
  2581. 1:23:21and I think before I wanted to have like
  2582. 1:23:23100 people around and I thought I was a
  2583. 1:23:24man because like I had 100 fake friends
  2584. 1:23:26now I want like six really good friends
  2585. 1:23:28yeah like that's kind of the goal I mean
  2586. 1:23:30to be honest I think the fire Festival
  2587. 1:23:31comments things and this that's just
  2588. 1:23:33never gonna go away until you do the the
  2589. 1:23:35next Festival never [ __ ] nail it I
  2590. 1:23:37think once you do that they might be
  2591. 1:23:39like wait a minute by the way it doesn't
  2592. 1:23:40matter what it looks like we're all
  2593. 1:23:41going I'm going no for real no matter
  2594. 1:23:43what yeah what people are saying I don't
  2595. 1:23:45care if that fly over [ __ ] is gonna come
  2596. 1:23:46in there
  2597. 1:23:50it's honestly hilarious but if you bang
  2598. 1:23:52the next one then it's like then they'll
  2599. 1:23:54finally shut the [ __ ] yeah yeah there's
  2600. 1:23:55no other way though but I don't think
  2601. 1:23:56you getting engaged with it's gonna it's
  2602. 1:23:58not gonna help you you know reading the
  2603. 1:24:00comments no it's I'm not gonna win like
  2604. 1:24:01I can do something great right now but
  2605. 1:24:04it's not gonna matter it's Gonna Take
  2606. 1:24:05Years and it's gonna take acing a
  2607. 1:24:07festival so no one killed me but like
  2608. 1:24:09there will be one eventually when it
  2609. 1:24:10happens I can't wait till you announce
  2610. 1:24:12it with the dates and [ __ ] now it's dope
  2611. 1:24:15I know I'm sure a lot of people are
  2612. 1:24:17rooting for me to they're like right now
  2613. 1:24:19are you gonna change like how do you
  2614. 1:24:20make this one different when it comes to
  2615. 1:24:21like marketing it are you gonna do like
  2616. 1:24:23do you have a plan for this one I think
  2617. 1:24:26like I had four years to think of
  2618. 1:24:27marketing campaign so let me have the
  2619. 1:24:29marketing
  2620. 1:24:30but I mean you switch it up like because
  2621. 1:24:32now there's a lot of critics out there
  2622. 1:24:34yeah there's not going to be 20 super
  2623. 1:24:36models there I think I have a cooler
  2624. 1:24:37idea but Logistics I need help marketing
  2625. 1:24:39like in my four year plan coming up boys
  2626. 1:24:41and like yeah you got us yeah there you
  2627. 1:24:43go
  2628. 1:24:45like we're just so early and like
  2629. 1:24:50the people in the Bahamas are [ __ ]
  2630. 1:24:52awesome and I know there's been a lot of
  2631. 1:24:54reports about like various things there
  2632. 1:24:55like and I've talked about like wanting
  2633. 1:24:57to have a couple of solid friends like
  2634. 1:24:58the support there is amazing and like my
  2635. 1:25:01business partner has gone back a couple
  2636. 1:25:02of times like
  2637. 1:25:04are their doors are open there's houses
  2638. 1:25:06there's Villas like they want us there
  2639. 1:25:08they want to have us there and it's like
  2640. 1:25:09kind of respecting that it's like as
  2641. 1:25:11soon as I'm allowed to go we are ready
  2642. 1:25:12to go and really start building again
  2643. 1:25:14yeah yeah and then well I'm gonna tell
  2644. 1:25:16you in the documentary there's a guy
  2645. 1:25:17there's like a bartender who has your
  2646. 1:25:18back so hard Delroy you're the man
  2647. 1:25:21you're definitely watching this shout
  2648. 1:25:22out to Delray the flip side is there's a
  2649. 1:25:24lot of people saying like are they he
  2650. 1:25:25was saying maybe somebody else said but
  2651. 1:25:27that they were unpaid yeah so is that so
  2652. 1:25:30that's being addressed or the I
  2653. 1:25:32definitely owe people money
  2654. 1:25:34um the last week no one was paid however
  2655. 1:25:36people were paid for the you know the
  2656. 1:25:38four months before that and then for the
  2657. 1:25:40years that we were doing the much
  2658. 1:25:41smaller chips I think my one thing there
  2659. 1:25:43is that like people are there
  2660. 1:25:45essentially paid on a weekly basis so if
  2661. 1:25:47you're not getting paid for four months
  2662. 1:25:48you're not going to work so people were
  2663. 1:25:49paid up until the end yeah however that
  2664. 1:25:51last week we did hire more people
  2665. 1:25:53because we're trying to get all hands on
  2666. 1:25:55decks it's certainly money is owed there
  2667. 1:25:56and you know paying that back is super
  2668. 1:25:58super important to me
  2669. 1:26:01I just asked because it's like you do
  2670. 1:26:03think you're going to be welcome back
  2671. 1:26:05with open arms but yeah do you think
  2672. 1:26:07that old people money and [ __ ] but like
  2673. 1:26:09dude I I owe you but like what's worse
  2674. 1:26:10like saying hey I'm too scared to go or
  2675. 1:26:12like hey I'm here guys I really [ __ ]
  2676. 1:26:14up and listen I only made this much
  2677. 1:26:16money this year and here's here's your
  2678. 1:26:17percentage sure I think it's a better
  2679. 1:26:19way but do you think you gave like a bad
  2680. 1:26:20name to like the Bahamas at all and like
  2681. 1:26:23they were yeah do you think they feel
  2682. 1:26:25like culturally disrespected like at all
  2683. 1:26:27or no I'm sure some people feel that way
  2684. 1:26:29I hope that people through the marketing
  2685. 1:26:31just like realize the best part of the
  2686. 1:26:33marketing was like the natural beauty of
  2687. 1:26:35these outer islands and we weren't
  2688. 1:26:36focused on like the main islands that
  2689. 1:26:38has all the tourists like these are the
  2690. 1:26:39islands of the population of 10 20 50
  2691. 1:26:41100 people so I think they got some
  2692. 1:26:44increased tourism from it and people
  2693. 1:26:45just realized like how beautiful these
  2694. 1:26:47islands really are and yes I know there
  2695. 1:26:49are guys I go out there and I promise
  2696. 1:26:51guys like I will do my best and I can't
  2697. 1:26:52promise any dollar amount but even if
  2698. 1:26:54it's 20 and a month to pay it like I
  2699. 1:26:56will pay it and we'll we'll go step by
  2700. 1:26:58step I like it I don't know how much you
  2701. 1:27:00think you are in the Bahamas he's fishy
  2702. 1:27:02you know you know it's all about to
  2703. 1:27:04happen there and then they're just gonna
  2704. 1:27:04be like yo Billy like welcome back like
  2705. 1:27:06how am I saying like I'm just singing
  2706. 1:27:07from devil they might swing on it guys
  2707. 1:27:09don't don't back channel so I get to
  2708. 1:27:11team when we land soon
  2709. 1:27:13I don't know yeah no dude like listen
  2710. 1:27:16like I think that's why the first trip
  2711. 1:27:18is going to be so so crazy that's why
  2712. 1:27:19he's trying to bring us
  2713. 1:27:21[ __ ] you are
  2714. 1:27:34paying all the money
  2715. 1:27:36that's actually a good ass idea it's a
  2716. 1:27:39big video that'd be awesome and they're
  2717. 1:27:41getting hit by a hurricane right that's
  2718. 1:27:43why I'm asking how much you owe you
  2719. 1:27:44think um I really in the Bahamas that's
  2720. 1:27:47an exercise I started doing and the
  2721. 1:27:49numbers are just like to go fund me like
  2722. 1:27:51I said I gotta earn it I got it like
  2723. 1:27:53it's all like Bahamas work you can't do
  2724. 1:27:55a GoFundMe to get that money back I'd
  2725. 1:27:56rather earn it got it is it in the Mills
  2726. 1:27:59or hundreds of thousands I think the
  2727. 1:28:01Bahamas is probably a couple hundred
  2728. 1:28:02thousand dollars but like once again I'm
  2729. 1:28:04not you can come up with that's not that
  2730. 1:28:05bad yeah but like dude Hurricane's
  2731. 1:28:07hitting there right now so I think if
  2732. 1:28:08there's any like if I earn any money
  2733. 1:28:09next week you know whatever I'm a lot to
  2734. 1:28:11pay to them I will certainly we could do
  2735. 1:28:12like a merch drop or some [ __ ] and then
  2736. 1:28:14use all the money and I've got to pay it
  2737. 1:28:15back to the Bahamas workers I mean if
  2738. 1:28:18it's all bartenders and [ __ ] here we go
  2739. 1:28:20yeah stocks I'm happy do people happy
  2740. 1:28:23Dad Bahamas shirts do people like see
  2741. 1:28:25you when you're walking on the streets
  2742. 1:28:27so people know who you are so it's like
  2743. 1:28:28they throw [ __ ] at them so no super
  2744. 1:28:30interesting is that like right when I
  2745. 1:28:32got back to New York after the festival
  2746. 1:28:34people are [ __ ] screaming at me and
  2747. 1:28:36streets like that all these balls and
  2748. 1:28:39now like I'm sure some people stare at
  2749. 1:28:40me and hit me but everybody's been super
  2750. 1:28:41nice so it's kind of like
  2751. 1:28:43that's like heartwarming in a certain
  2752. 1:28:44way like I think there's like some
  2753. 1:28:45understanding that like hey it's been
  2754. 1:28:47five years and yeah you were a total
  2755. 1:28:49[ __ ] [ __ ] for many years but like
  2756. 1:28:50and we're not soul but maybe there's
  2757. 1:28:53something more you can I guess time is
  2758. 1:28:55everything
  2759. 1:28:56yeah that's exactly I haven't left New
  2760. 1:29:00York so if I walk down in our city I
  2761. 1:29:01have no idea but I think so you've been
  2762. 1:29:03out like out and about in public gone
  2763. 1:29:04out like a little bit like I went out
  2764. 1:29:06one night like out so far it was how was
  2765. 1:29:09that dude it was crazy you should pull
  2766. 1:29:10up on us tomorrow night we're hosting on
  2767. 1:29:11a club where are you going bounce oh no
  2768. 1:29:14they're gonna kill me
  2769. 1:29:18I guess
  2770. 1:29:21so I'll say Benny from The Bounce was
  2771. 1:29:23always super supportive and he actually
  2772. 1:29:24went to jail too so I think he gets it
  2773. 1:29:26so yeah I love to come and to bounce and
  2774. 1:29:28shout out to Benny I haven't talked to
  2775. 1:29:29you in five years but I know you've been
  2776. 1:29:30through the ringer as well on came back
  2777. 1:29:32can't go to bounds I haven't talked to
  2778. 1:29:34Benny but one of the owners of the
  2779. 1:29:36bounce in five years was he an investor
  2780. 1:29:37no but you're doing with the federal
  2781. 1:29:39jail but he came back strong so I I
  2782. 1:29:41appreciate his uh so we got to talk to
  2783. 1:29:42Benny tomorrow yeah wait would you pull
  2784. 1:29:44up with us though or no yeah I'll come
  2785. 1:29:45tomorrow
  2786. 1:29:46okay let's go to the UFC take me to the
  2787. 1:29:48UFC and I'll come to back it's on him
  2788. 1:29:49he's the U.S we'll ask Dana
  2789. 1:29:52oh [ __ ]
  2790. 1:29:54wait didn't you there's a there's a
  2791. 1:29:56thing that actually one of our people
  2792. 1:29:58said that he was probably there with you
  2793. 1:30:00that night but that you went to bounce
  2794. 1:30:01the night before you went to jail
  2795. 1:30:03uh I went to bounce like a month or two
  2796. 1:30:05before I went to jail uh it was one of
  2797. 1:30:07the last clubs I went to for sure for
  2798. 1:30:10sure is it a good a good spot uh bounce
  2799. 1:30:12is fun yeah he knows what he's doing
  2800. 1:30:13like he knows how to you know he's a
  2801. 1:30:15great like he's a professional this is
  2802. 1:30:17why you're on bond though right well I'm
  2803. 1:30:18Bond yeah Bond bail whatever I think
  2804. 1:30:20it's called Bond so are you are you
  2805. 1:30:21nervous at all are you how like how hard
  2806. 1:30:22were you going at that point dude it was
  2807. 1:30:24just the worst time ever because like
  2808. 1:30:25you never knew when it was gonna end it
  2809. 1:30:27wasn't like oh on this date you're going
  2810. 1:30:28to jail it's like every month it just
  2811. 1:30:31kept getting delayed so are you going
  2812. 1:30:32crazy yourself being like yo this could
  2813. 1:30:34be my last time I didn't have any money
  2814. 1:30:35so it's like you're at the bar I wasn't
  2815. 1:30:37like no I wasn't at the bar I should
  2816. 1:30:41have been um I don't really have any
  2817. 1:30:42money yeah so it's like it wasn't like
  2818. 1:30:44going that crazy but it was but it
  2819. 1:30:47sucked it was like I don't know what was
  2820. 1:30:48worse like being the the guy simping
  2821. 1:30:50like paying for the plane for everybody
  2822. 1:30:51or being the guy with like no money not
  2823. 1:30:53knowing when you're going to jail still
  2824. 1:30:54trying to have fun like it's both like a
  2825. 1:30:56shitty life experience how hard was that
  2826. 1:30:58to adapt to when you had no money to
  2827. 1:30:59spend it was hard like I got more
  2828. 1:31:01trouble because like I just didn't know
  2829. 1:31:03how to adapt I know how to be honest
  2830. 1:31:05right like I couldn't like I didn't have
  2831. 1:31:06the balls to be like yeah I'm broke
  2832. 1:31:09like I didn't like I couldn't find pride
  2833. 1:31:11in that
  2834. 1:31:11just kept getting me [ __ ] up it's like
  2835. 1:31:13I I'm not gonna No One's Gonna talk to
  2836. 1:31:15me if I'm broke so I need to pretend
  2837. 1:31:16like I still you know can do what I was
  2838. 1:31:18doing six months ago yeah that was
  2839. 1:31:20[ __ ] up so you think jail ultimately
  2840. 1:31:21did it did would help you realize that
  2841. 1:31:23that could be okay best thing like ever
  2842. 1:31:25to happen to me and like I wish it was
  2843. 1:31:26two years and not four but I know I
  2844. 1:31:28deserved you know what I got like so
  2845. 1:31:31incredible in terms of the experiences
  2846. 1:31:32yeah were there any crazy things that
  2847. 1:31:35you were doing while you were on bond to
  2848. 1:31:36make money
  2849. 1:31:37yeah I was dude I was [ __ ] around it
  2850. 1:31:39was bad like I was just trying to hustle
  2851. 1:31:41and I thought I could still like pull
  2852. 1:31:43things off then I realized like no one
  2853. 1:31:45was taking my calls I just kept getting
  2854. 1:31:46what were you doing to like get by so
  2855. 1:31:49magnesis had been giving people like
  2856. 1:31:51access to different events and like you
  2857. 1:31:53know different like group Gatherings and
  2858. 1:31:54experiences for years and so I kept
  2859. 1:31:57trying to sell these experiences that I
  2860. 1:31:59might have had access to before but like
  2861. 1:32:00didn't have them currently can you give
  2862. 1:32:01us some example yeah so the Met Gala for
  2863. 1:32:04example so like my dumb ass sold I don't
  2864. 1:32:06know how many tickets like to the Met
  2865. 1:32:07Gala I don't know if I maybe a handful
  2866. 1:32:09when I was on bond you know thinking
  2867. 1:32:11that hey I knew one of the brands
  2868. 1:32:13sponsoring it they'll give me a few
  2869. 1:32:14seats at their table like no problem not
  2870. 1:32:16realizing like I tried to call them and
  2871. 1:32:17they just like dude go [ __ ] yourself
  2872. 1:32:19like what do you think you're doing I
  2873. 1:32:20was like so detached from reality just
  2874. 1:32:22like kept getting in trouble were they
  2875. 1:32:24the tickets sold at that point yeah they
  2876. 1:32:26were oh [ __ ] yeah so I [ __ ] up did
  2877. 1:32:28they add that to yeah you know like I
  2878. 1:32:30think that took me from literally
  2879. 1:32:31getting like a year or two to getting a
  2880. 1:32:33six year sentence I'm like oh
  2881. 1:32:34deserveably but like that [ __ ] me up
  2882. 1:32:37whoa [ __ ] yeah what's what's a Mech Ally
  2883. 1:32:40ticket cost
  2884. 1:32:41we don't get invited to [ __ ] like that
  2885. 1:32:42so yeah I mean like I think like it's
  2886. 1:32:45semi-public great but for if you pay you
  2887. 1:32:47know 100 000 hundred thousand dollars a
  2888. 1:32:49brand you'll get a table and you can
  2889. 1:32:50have a 150k for a table with the mecca
  2890. 1:32:52what the [ __ ] that's lame as hell [ __ ]
  2891. 1:32:54that yeah did you sell one of the tables
  2892. 1:32:56I didn't sell a table I could never get
  2893. 1:32:58it listen I didn't have those tickets
  2894. 1:32:59right I thought it could convince one
  2895. 1:33:00but what did you sell them for dude I
  2896. 1:33:02was [ __ ] I was selling them for
  2897. 1:33:03thousands of dollars when you know I was
  2898. 1:33:05like underselling them trying to make
  2899. 1:33:06money you know I was so [ __ ] wrong it
  2900. 1:33:08was terrible so you get you get your 10
  2901. 1:33:10bands and then what do you do start
  2902. 1:33:11calling these Brands and then they're
  2903. 1:33:13screening my calls but then you go to
  2904. 1:33:14balance and get bottle service or no uh
  2905. 1:33:16why are you trying to tie them up that's
  2906. 1:33:18fun no it's like dude like I'm like I'm
  2907. 1:33:20nothing yeah like yeah like literally
  2908. 1:33:22yes and but yeah I was wrong and like I
  2909. 1:33:25did have friends too yeah you know still
  2910. 1:33:27believe in me that's what's [ __ ] up is
  2911. 1:33:29your boys were reaping the benefits but
  2912. 1:33:31not going down with you I know I mean
  2913. 1:33:37these [ __ ] in here the guys who got
  2914. 1:33:39the most no no okay the guys who got the
  2915. 1:33:42most free [ __ ] were the ones who like
  2916. 1:33:43ditched me the fastest but the people
  2917. 1:33:45but the people who worked the hardest
  2918. 1:33:46and got the least were the ones who like
  2919. 1:33:48stood by the most well that's a
  2920. 1:33:50personality trait yeah it's a
  2921. 1:33:51personality yeah man yeah I'm sure you
  2922. 1:33:53guys have seen that in different
  2923. 1:33:54situations on a much larger scale but
  2924. 1:33:56it's just like
  2925. 1:33:57that's life so do we talk about what the
  2926. 1:33:59treasure hunt is or yeah so hiding 99 of
  2927. 1:34:03these in these bottles you know in
  2928. 1:34:05different cities
  2929. 1:34:06and everybody who finds the bottle is
  2930. 1:34:08going to be invited back to the Bahamas
  2931. 1:34:10we took the first winners back last
  2932. 1:34:11weekend and then they'll also be invited
  2933. 1:34:13to participate in the larger treasure
  2934. 1:34:15hunt and I can't tell you guys who the
  2935. 1:34:16grand prize is yet but it'll be a larger
  2936. 1:34:18part of the pirate story in the future
  2937. 1:34:19so this is actually bottle number three
  2938. 1:34:21so there's now 96 96 left they'll be
  2939. 1:34:24hiding out there are they hidden right
  2940. 1:34:26now uh we hid the first two that were
  2941. 1:34:27found this is the third one we have not
  2942. 1:34:29hit the fourth one yet so
  2943. 1:34:31across all states in the US we've only
  2944. 1:34:33done New York so far it will be
  2945. 1:34:35expanding different cities
  2946. 1:34:39so it gets you a free trip weekend trip
  2947. 1:34:41back to the Bahamas and then you're
  2948. 1:34:43officially like part of the larger
  2949. 1:34:44treasure hunt and the grand prize which
  2950. 1:34:46I just can't like promise yet is way
  2951. 1:34:48bigger than a free trip but it's like a
  2952. 1:34:50really cool how many people do you get
  2953. 1:34:51in that because he's gotten better
  2954. 1:34:52there's only 99 bucks growing wow yeah
  2955. 1:34:54that's that's a one percent
  2956. 1:34:59well he's saying free trip though that's
  2957. 1:35:0299 free trips oh yeah yeah but it might
  2958. 1:35:04take us but it might take me three or
  2959. 1:35:06four years okay okay
  2960. 1:35:08we've taken one we've taken one group
  2961. 1:35:10went really really well I'm like dude
  2962. 1:35:13anybody can reach out to them it was
  2963. 1:35:14like totally done like honestly and they
  2964. 1:35:16had a great time and we might need
  2965. 1:35:17another month before we release the next
  2966. 1:35:19one so like three months yeah like we're
  2967. 1:35:20we're in no rush okay
  2968. 1:35:24no rush point fingers but like what if
  2969. 1:35:26Brad finds the one in California and he
  2970. 1:35:28sells it to somebody for five dude you
  2971. 1:35:30can't do that man
  2972. 1:35:31he would do that I don't think you can't
  2973. 1:35:34sell I can't sell that I need Brad My
  2974. 1:35:35Bodyguard when I land so we're gonna
  2975. 1:35:36give him whatever need to sell that for
  2976. 1:35:385K real quick man yeah
  2977. 1:35:41still yeah I want to go soon yeah I'd
  2978. 1:35:44love for you guys to come I mean I can't
  2979. 1:35:45wait to I've been dreaming of going back
  2980. 1:35:47there like imagine like months and
  2981. 1:35:48months in Solitaire like Bahamas Bahamas
  2982. 1:35:50I got the [ __ ] go what are you
  2983. 1:35:52excited about that place that you love
  2984. 1:35:53so much the adventure and like it's like
  2985. 1:35:55a playground
  2986. 1:35:56you land there in the middle of nowhere
  2987. 1:35:58on a Runway and yes there are like
  2988. 1:36:00cities there as well but I really like
  2989. 1:36:02these like outer Islands to land on a
  2990. 1:36:04Runway the warmest people and it's like
  2991. 1:36:06the world is your oyster like what do
  2992. 1:36:07you want to do just go do it
  2993. 1:36:09it's like a vacation place though right
  2994. 1:36:11but it's like you're not talking about
  2995. 1:36:13Bahamas like we like we're not getting
  2996. 1:36:14married you're not going to Nobu with
  2997. 1:36:17the Atlantis it's like you're [ __ ]
  2998. 1:36:18out there like you're on an eye it's one
  2999. 1:36:20of the random Islands you want a lobster
  3000. 1:36:21you're you're diving with a spear and
  3001. 1:36:22catching the lobster have you done that
  3002. 1:36:24even a spirit no lobster for sure like
  3003. 1:36:26you Spirit Lobster the coolest part is
  3004. 1:36:28it brings people together like have you
  3005. 1:36:30scared of lobster I feared a lobster but
  3006. 1:36:32like stani if like we don't know each
  3007. 1:36:33other we know each other like this we go
  3008. 1:36:34land there and we go out alone on jet
  3009. 1:36:36skis at night go [ __ ] night diving
  3010. 1:36:38catch some fish we go back and cook it
  3011. 1:36:39like we're boys listen yeah I'm gonna
  3012. 1:36:41tell you this right now some cool [ __ ]
  3013. 1:36:42I'm gonna tell you this right now when
  3014. 1:36:43we get out there [ __ ] Lobster I'm
  3015. 1:36:46Gonna Make You Spirit Lobster 100 okay
  3016. 1:36:48yeah because you're not spiritual
  3017. 1:36:49lobster no but he said he could if that
  3018. 1:36:51motherfucker's lying to me you're gonna
  3019. 1:36:52find out right away straight up if I
  3020. 1:36:55can't fear a lobster then I you know
  3021. 1:36:56whatever whatever what other crazy
  3022. 1:36:58adventure [ __ ] besides beer and lobster
  3023. 1:37:00like you fight for food foreign
  3024. 1:37:10you guys are crazy I love it is there
  3025. 1:37:13any other crazy adventure [ __ ] you do I
  3026. 1:37:15think it's cool is that there's like so
  3027. 1:37:16many islands and they all have their own
  3028. 1:37:17culture so it's like hey you're having
  3029. 1:37:19fun at night at like a bonfire like yo
  3030. 1:37:21let's [ __ ] pitch black there's
  3031. 1:37:23beautiful stars there's no like light
  3032. 1:37:25pollution right let's go hop on some jet
  3033. 1:37:27skis and go like find a random Island
  3034. 1:37:28and go and maybe someone's there maybe
  3035. 1:37:30someone's not but like you take a girl
  3036. 1:37:31you take a friend like you're bonding
  3037. 1:37:33and that's how when you bring you know
  3038. 1:37:35the people who are who's who of the
  3039. 1:37:37modeling world or the music world down
  3040. 1:37:38there you just connect in a different
  3041. 1:37:40level and you have business ideas you
  3042. 1:37:42have like relationship ideas and the way
  3043. 1:37:44people connect I think it's like that
  3044. 1:37:45drives you you do that one weekend it's
  3045. 1:37:47like [ __ ] like those bonds are addicting
  3046. 1:37:50like that's like the drug that you want
  3047. 1:37:51to go back for more of
  3048. 1:37:53interesting yeah so that four months of
  3049. 1:37:55putting together firefest that's
  3050. 1:37:57the most action you've seen like with
  3051. 1:38:00chicks oh here we go uh actually no like
  3052. 1:38:02seriously no no I was just like trying I
  3053. 1:38:05think like
  3054. 1:38:07smart girl that was your play though
  3055. 1:38:08bring a girl to the Bahamas
  3056. 1:38:12the plan was your cheat code for sure
  3057. 1:38:14right the plane was 100 it was the trick
  3058. 1:38:16where he does the [ __ ] zero gravity
  3059. 1:38:17that's the one where he's trying but I'm
  3060. 1:38:19realizing like that's the setup if I'm
  3061. 1:38:21zero gravitying with this girl and have
  3062. 1:38:23like a yacht and like literally three
  3063. 1:38:25islands rented and things aren't working
  3064. 1:38:27like the problem is probably me right
  3065. 1:38:28like there's like a bigger issue going
  3066. 1:38:29on yeah did that ever happen where you
  3067. 1:38:31were in your head like yo what more can
  3068. 1:38:33I do for sure and it's like depressing
  3069. 1:38:35but then you don't realize it's like
  3070. 1:38:36this is personal relationship for you
  3071. 1:38:39guys right now I was like bonding that's
  3072. 1:38:40bonding right there that's dope keep
  3073. 1:38:41asking those questions no [ __ ] no dude
  3074. 1:38:44you guys are made
  3075. 1:38:46personal advice
  3076. 1:38:50it's crazy though just like yeah I was a
  3077. 1:38:53[ __ ] do you have any any other crazy
  3078. 1:38:55things any final words
  3079. 1:38:58give us the craziest [ __ ] ever yeah dude
  3080. 1:39:02all right let me let me Crack one happy
  3081. 1:39:04Dad here go ahead yeah
  3082. 1:39:06give me a theme and I'll and I'll I
  3083. 1:39:08think anything about the models or
  3084. 1:39:10anything would go crazy I know we talked
  3085. 1:39:11about that already there's got to be
  3086. 1:39:13someone who was like
  3087. 1:39:15entitled they're like pissed you off or
  3088. 1:39:17wanted more or some [ __ ] yep
  3089. 1:39:19did you ever personally interact with
  3090. 1:39:20like Kendall
  3091. 1:39:22or is it just all through business
  3092. 1:39:24I just feel like a certain [ __ ] he can't
  3093. 1:39:26say it sounds like
  3094. 1:39:27dude there's just like so much I wish I
  3095. 1:39:29could share because it's legal [ __ ] well
  3096. 1:39:32you're good now you did your time but
  3097. 1:39:34now it's yeah and I know but it's also
  3098. 1:39:36like personal stuff right like [ __ ] it
  3099. 1:39:38bro you gotta find your pride somewhere
  3100. 1:39:39right let me [ __ ] out
  3101. 1:39:42yeah dude [ __ ] right hold a fake
  3102. 1:39:43Festival do it again [ __ ] that
  3103. 1:39:46run it back one time yeah I'm kidding I
  3104. 1:39:49don't know but give us give us something
  3105. 1:39:50that you've never told before yeah and
  3106. 1:39:51then we'll close out okay I mean this is
  3107. 1:39:53not like interesting but I think like
  3108. 1:39:54the first ever USC at MSG was November
  3109. 1:39:57of 2016 and that was right in like the
  3110. 1:39:59midst of our trips I think that was like
  3111. 1:40:00one of the best nights of my life we
  3112. 1:40:01brought like a bunch of the fire Talent
  3113. 1:40:03there and that led to like the craziest
  3114. 1:40:05fire weekend so it's kind of coming full
  3115. 1:40:07circle been in jail for a while but it's
  3116. 1:40:09kind of cool to see the UFC were you in
  3117. 1:40:11Dana's room MSG no dude I just like
  3118. 1:40:13[ __ ] of course I paid four times too
  3119. 1:40:16much for a bunch of ringside seats and
  3120. 1:40:17yeah and of course but solid here is my
  3121. 1:40:20stupid mentality how long ago was that
  3122. 1:40:22November 2016. it was the first time
  3123. 1:40:25ever at MSG dude it was [ __ ] electric
  3124. 1:40:27and what fight was it uh it was I think
  3125. 1:40:29it was McGregor I'm totally spacing who
  3126. 1:40:31he fought but like it was a time in my
  3127. 1:40:33letter if you got his name in there yeah
  3128. 1:40:34it was like the who's who of like the
  3129. 1:40:35entertainment world but like it was just
  3130. 1:40:37like it was wild and you know that was
  3131. 1:40:39like I was 24. damn yeah how good did
  3132. 1:40:43you feel at that point when you're
  3133. 1:40:44flexing I like we were doing a trip the
  3134. 1:40:46next weekend so I brought a whole bunch
  3135. 1:40:48of the Town we're about to take to the
  3136. 1:40:49trip and I was like I thought I was you
  3137. 1:40:50know
  3138. 1:40:51that was like yo I'm setting the bar
  3139. 1:40:53really [ __ ] high
  3140. 1:40:56for a party I think like no like in
  3141. 1:40:58front of the chicks like you're like Yo
  3142. 1:40:59dude like how do I one up
  3143. 1:41:01McGregor ringside dude this is really
  3144. 1:41:03personal yeah I know keep going though
  3145. 1:41:05yeah no I'm just curious like yeah no go
  3146. 1:41:07for it but they just don't care right
  3147. 1:41:09they can sense when you're just trying
  3148. 1:41:10too hard and it's like not attractive I
  3149. 1:41:12think like I love this thank you I
  3150. 1:41:14appreciate that no it's true right
  3151. 1:41:16you're very right yeah go ahead tell
  3152. 1:41:17them look at him when you say it you go
  3153. 1:41:18through this too bro so shut the [ __ ] I
  3154. 1:41:19don't go through the [ __ ] you're going I
  3155. 1:41:20know you go through the [ __ ] like I met
  3156. 1:41:21much cooler battles
  3157. 1:41:23yeah he does your girl had a Birkin bag
  3158. 1:41:26the other day I was like you're crazy
  3159. 1:41:28that's your that's the first mistake
  3160. 1:41:33oh you know what treasure hunt at Brad's
  3161. 1:41:35house
  3162. 1:41:37number four guys
  3163. 1:41:46who from your crew is gonna come come to
  3164. 1:41:49the first trip to the Bahamas bro I
  3165. 1:41:51think we're all in to go and we'll see
  3166. 1:41:53what happens should we ask Steve right
  3167. 1:41:54now yeah okay and confirm Facebook you
  3168. 1:41:57want to FaceTime him
  3169. 1:42:02no he's in and we already know he's in I
  3170. 1:42:04mean we know he's in Celine would have
  3171. 1:42:06no idea but he'll go it's not even gonna
  3172. 1:42:09be like what but get but get a FaceTime
  3173. 1:42:11from Steve here you hit him steiny my
  3174. 1:42:13phone's at two what can we do to make
  3175. 1:42:15this thing pop so it goes It goes as one
  3176. 1:42:17of your well I think we got to go so we
  3177. 1:42:18gotta go soon at least for like when you
  3178. 1:42:20return I mean you're not gonna return
  3179. 1:42:21for a year dude like I'm pushing to go
  3180. 1:42:23ASAP it's Gotta like you know hold on
  3181. 1:42:25we'll do a nail video there yeah for
  3182. 1:42:28sure and we'll film it I mean we'll make
  3183. 1:42:29it we'll be back to the Bahamas with you
  3184. 1:42:30for the first time
  3185. 1:42:31be funny can't wait
  3186. 1:42:35how long are you guys in town for until
  3187. 1:42:37Sunday nice yeah okay so you're partying
  3188. 1:42:40at bounce tomorrow night bounce tomorrow
  3189. 1:42:41night UFC nice we're doing a big happy
  3190. 1:42:44dad meet up oh yeah during the day yeah
  3191. 1:42:46Brooklyn cool steve Steve's end for sure
  3192. 1:42:49but yeah yeah we'll see we'll bring the
  3193. 1:42:51whole Squad Steve Celine
  3194. 1:42:54we're live on the potty is Steve next to
  3195. 1:42:56you
  3196. 1:42:58okay Classics let's go okay wait Selena
  3197. 1:43:02I got my second party
  3198. 1:43:07nice do you want a picture real quick
  3199. 1:43:09hey what's going on
  3200. 1:43:12hey that's Steve's
  3201. 1:43:15cool so yeah I mean
  3202. 1:43:18it's gonna be great yeah I [ __ ] up I
  3203. 1:43:21was wrong
  3204. 1:43:23no I mean I should do it on purpose I
  3205. 1:43:25like lie to investors to try to get
  3206. 1:43:27money to do it but I certainly try to do
  3207. 1:43:29the event and just like didn't
  3208. 1:43:30understand what I was doing did you do
  3209. 1:43:32it on purpose
  3210. 1:43:34yeah
  3211. 1:43:35so I mean trying to like make it right
  3212. 1:43:37and really looking forward to kind of
  3213. 1:43:39getting back to the Bahamas and making
  3214. 1:43:40an impact there so would love for you
  3215. 1:43:42guys to all come with me for my first
  3216. 1:43:43trip back I just can't promise like
  3217. 1:43:45what's gonna happen to me but you guys
  3218. 1:43:46will definitely have a good time so I
  3219. 1:43:48think that's what we're calling to
  3220. 1:43:49extend the invite exactly and hopefully
  3221. 1:43:51get a cool group to come back with me
  3222. 1:43:53you're inviting us yeah for sure
  3223. 1:43:57you win
  3224. 1:44:00there you go all right
  3225. 1:44:03thank you so yes pass you back to steiny
  3226. 1:44:05but yeah nice meeting you and yeah
  3227. 1:44:06thanks guys yeah all right well this is
  3228. 1:44:08it bounce tomorrow night yeah don't fly
  3229. 1:44:10are you gonna come you're looking shaky
  3230. 1:44:11a little bit right okay since you've
  3231. 1:44:14been out no no I'll come okay have you
  3232. 1:44:16shown face here since you've been I
  3233. 1:44:17bounce no no I mean I'd love to go out
  3234. 1:44:18though I mean I'd love to go out I
  3235. 1:44:20haven't gone out a lot I will come
  3236. 1:44:22um yeah uh who's buying
  3237. 1:44:25I don't have [ __ ] so for a long night
  3238. 1:44:28guys I'll sneak into happy that case
  3239. 1:44:30that you guys guys
  3240. 1:44:32appreciate it bro yeah thanks bro thank
  3241. 1:44:34you guys if you have any uh Upper Deck
  3242. 1:44:36seat to the UFC hit your boy up I'm here
  3243. 1:44:38hell yeah let's get [ __ ] thank you man
  3244. 1:44:40thank you
  3245. 1:44:43guys yeah
  3246. 1:44:49thank you guys oh yeah
  3247. 1:44:51[Music]
  3248. 1:45:05all right

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