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0:00It's the literature. It's the
0:01literature. It's all funded. It's
0:03orchestrated. And she's given you the
0:06headline numbers. Now, viewers, why
0:08should we take her at face value?
0:11She's another journalist
0:14who has done some research, you could
0:15argue. So, viewers, we decided to look
0:18even deeper and we accessed something
0:22that hasn't been seen before. US
0:25Congress reports. Now these US Congress
0:28reports viewers based on investigations
0:33not just
0:36by the Congress in the United States or
0:40what is known as parliament in India and
0:43committees
0:45but also viewers by investigative
0:47agencies, federal investigative agencies
0:50that have a global footprint.
0:54And what have they found? Viewers,
0:56let me now quote from these US
0:58congressional reports. Three tax
1:01exempted, now pay attention. Three
1:03taxexempt organizations tied to Neville
1:06Roy Singum. Neville Roy Singum is a
1:10millionaire based out of China with
1:13strong connections to the Chinese
1:14Communist Party are running out of room
1:17to skirt accountability and avoid
1:20compliance with congressional oversight.
1:23They're talking about three taxexempt
1:26organizations or NOS's
1:29in letters to legal council for the
1:31people's forum, Breakthrough News and
1:35Trontinental,
1:37the US Congress ways and means committee
1:40chairman Jason Smith reaffirms the
1:42demand for documents required under its
1:44July subpoenas to each organization
1:47before October 20th, 2026. That means
1:51viewers
1:53each of these organizations has been
1:56asked to supply
1:58through their legal councils
2:01documents required
2:03to establish that they are not doing
2:05anything underhand.
2:08It should have happened two days back.
2:09We're still confirming whether these
2:11three organizations view yours linked to
2:15Neville Roy Singham have complied with
2:18the subpoena.
2:20Now Neville Roy Singum is chairman of
2:22the international advisory board at
2:25trcontinental which is one of the
2:27organizations under the scanner of the
2:29US congress. Interestingly this body
2:33includes an Indian director
2:36called Vijay Prashad. Vijay Prashad is
2:39the nephew of India's CPIM party polit
2:42bureau member Binda Karat.
2:45Prashad has celebrated protests in India
2:48by SFI leader Aisha Gosh who has also
2:52shared a stage with CJP founder Abjid
2:55Dipk.
3:00Interestingly
3:01the second organization people's forum
3:04has received over $20 million
3:07from Singham's network. People's Forum
3:11is linked to Joy Banerjee who runs India
3:14alliance Paris which is an NGO there
3:17which has deep links to communist
3:19parties in France and in India
3:23and as I told you Nomani has found the
3:27involvement of hard-left communist
3:29organizations that have hijacked the
3:32students protest
3:34in France and created mayhem.
3:39This organization viewers that I'm
3:41talking about this organization that is
3:44linked to joy banerjee the India
3:47alliance Paris also has links to Indian
3:51communist parties.
3:53Now let me walk you through viewers what
3:56is really a flowchart.
3:59This is what the US committee has found
4:02and this is the first route [music] and
4:03you can see viewers the way this plays
4:06out. US House Ways
4:09and Means Committee
4:14has linked
4:16Neville Roy Singhham who is the
4:19international advisory board chairman to
4:21Vijay Prashad who is an executive
4:24director in the same organization who is
4:27a nephew of Binda Karaj CPM leader and
4:30viewers
4:33her
4:36party affiliate,
4:38the youth wing of the CPIM,
4:42its leaders,
4:44its founders
4:46and those of the CJP
4:49are on the streets. Viewers,
4:52you see how it works.
4:56Now,
4:57I want to ask you viewers, there's no
5:00crime in assembling.
5:02You can. The question here is deeper.
5:06The question here is
5:09whether there is a indoctrination that
5:13has taken place by vested parties
5:17to spark something that is bigger.
5:24In fact viewers, French President
5:26Emanuel Macron has today called out what
5:30he believes viewers is
5:34a sedicious global decide.
5:38And he's used the word sedicious. It's
5:41not a word that should be used loosely
5:45and specifically by a leader of a
5:47western democracy
5:49because it has massive connotations. It
5:52suggests that there are interests vested
5:54interests plotting against the state in
5:58France and by extension viewers because
6:00they all champion each other's causes
6:03and are perhaps funded
6:05by a common source.
6:08India too comes under the rubric.
6:14Here are the instances when Vijay Prasad
6:16nephew of Binda Karat has backed the
6:18stirs that have paralyzed India's
6:20capital. You can see viewers
6:23on your screens
6:27all those are the instances that's Aisha
6:30Goss in a bus that is a prophecy
6:37in Albania that Vijay Prashad says
6:41anger has become a prophecy.
6:45What are they?
6:48Exalting viewers, riots,
6:52chaos, anarchy.
6:55Now, this is of course not the only
6:57route where money has played its part in
6:59funding communists with links to India.
7:01A US Department of Justice report has
7:03linked Singum to another ex
7:06trcontinental director who happens to be
7:08a CPIM leader.
7:12Let me run you through this. Viewers,
7:15the DOJ has linked Neville Roy Singhham
7:19to Sadhanva Desh Pande, ex director of
7:23Tririccontinental Research Services
7:25Private Limited, who's also a CPM leader
7:28and actor.
7:30Now viewers, you have seen suddenly a
7:32large number of Bollywood stars joining
7:35these stirs in India. Nasurin Sha,
7:41Aktar,
7:42Shabbana Azmi, a whole cast of them,
7:46Imran Khan etc. All of them are pulled
7:49in because there are people like this
7:52who are connected to Bollywood who say
7:53we are rising for a greater cause. No
7:55one is asking viewers
7:58the deeper questions. So, Dhan Desh
8:01Pande is also an influential presence at
8:04protest sites and has backed the stir as
8:06well as its main protagonist to the
8:08hilt. Here is the SFI and the SFI
8:12viewers. The student federation of India
8:16linked to the communist party Marxist
8:19here in India gave a platform for CJP
8:23and prominent student organizations
8:27at the HKS Surjit Bhavan
8:30in Delhi after hours of brutal torture
8:33and they called it and detention on
8:37innocent protesters by Delhi police
8:38throughout the day and the name of actor
8:42Sudhan Desh Pande figures.
8:45amongst those who participated in this
8:48great manhan viewers.
8:51Now there's nothing as I said that is
8:53illegal about funding an agitation.
8:55There is nothing illegal about giving it
8:57a platform. There is nothing illegal
9:00even about indoctrinating
9:03youth.
9:05But these revelations prompt one big
9:07question. If the same actors are
9:11stirring the pot in France and India,
9:12can the protest still be considered
9:14organic,
9:16an expression of separate impulses
9:18working in isolation? Or are they part
9:21of a grand design to instigate an
9:24inifada that secures regime change?
9:28That's the fundamental question. This is
9:31too much now
9:34of a coincidence to be a coincidence.
9:38And I have given you the flowcharts. So
9:41let's open this up. Let's have some
9:43honest conversations tonight viewers.
9:45And I want to begin with Nile Jardina,
9:48director of the Heritage Foundations,
9:51Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom and
9:53former adviser to ex-UK Prime Minister
9:56Margaret Thatcher. Thank you sir Jardina
9:58for joining us here. How plausible is it
10:03that on different continents
10:07of this globe stretching from Indonesia
10:09today
10:12to Western Europe and in between in
10:15India, Bangladesh and Nepal, there have
10:18been these protests by students, by
10:22youth, by left-wing activists, by hard
10:24left, by communists, by trade unionists.
10:27They all seem to be at one moment in
10:31time upset about the same things.
10:36Well, thanks for having me on the show
10:37today and you know without a doubt and
10:39as you pointed out earlier and as a Fox
10:43News investigation and congressional
10:44investigations in the US have
10:47established there is a vast network of
10:49far-leftwing uh communist Marxist
10:52organizations
10:54uh that are working together uh to stir
10:58unrest actually across the free world.
11:00And we're seeing this, of course, in
11:01France right now. Uh, and Fox News
11:05identified over a hundred uh
11:06organizations
11:08uh predominantly uh communist groups and
11:10also working together with Islamist uh
11:13movements to try and destabilize uh
11:16France. And so you have a very
11:18wellorganized and wellunded uh network
11:21of uh you know communist and also
11:24Islamist uh movements who are basically
11:27uh working to destabilize uh societies
11:30across the free world and certainly
11:32France is the epicenter of that of that
11:34right now. These are not just student
11:36protests on the streets of of France. uh
11:40the vast majority of the rioters, the
11:42lutters that you're seeing on the
11:44streets of Paris, Marseilles, Leon,
11:45Leon, and other French cities, these are
11:47not students actually. Uh these are, you
11:50know, part of a wellorganized
11:53um you know, left far-left wing uh
11:55movement and uh this has to be defeated
11:58and this this is the reality. And I
12:00think there's growing awareness here in
12:02the United States of what is going on
12:04across the Atlantic in in Europe and
12:06also President Trump has spoken out uh
12:09several times about this. Uh and we're
12:11we're facing really a sort of far-left
12:14wing uh uprising or revolution uh in in
12:18France and in parts of Europe today.
12:21>> Why should we be worried, Mr. Jardina?
12:25Well, I think you should be worried
12:26because the same the same groups of
12:28course that are active in France and
12:31across Europe also want to destabilize
12:34uh India as well. And so I think uh the
12:36Indian people should be paying very
12:38close attention to what is happening uh
12:40in in Europe because these same
12:42organizations of course uh want to cause
12:46uh havoc chaos of of course in countries
12:50including uh India and they have the
12:52same the same goals the same ambitions.
12:54They're part of a broader network. uh
12:56I'm I'm in no doubt I think that some
12:58Indian organizations are also involved
13:01uh in sewing discord uh across across
13:05the world. So uh so yes I think this is
13:07a matter of direct interest of course to
13:10uh to India as well as the United States
13:13and all free countries across the world.
13:15We all need to be paying very close
13:17attention to what's happening in France
13:18and also in Italy uh Albania uh Belgium
13:22and other European countries as well.
13:24Well punala let me bring you in to stay
13:28with us Mr. Jardina. It appears in
13:31Punawala that this is an amalgamation of
13:34power hungry vested interests
13:37specifically Islamists
13:39leftists communists trade unionists and
13:42we've seen them on Indian streets also
13:44who are converging
13:46across the globe
13:48to use the easy way to power. They don't
13:52really want to contest the election.
13:55They want to take this to the street.
13:57They're hoping that the street will
13:58overrule the state and they can create
14:01space for themselves in power.
14:05How do you respond to this? Because
14:06these are very serious linkages that
14:09have been drawn and exposed. And this is
14:11not work that
14:14one individual is doing sitting in some
14:17newsroom which you could accuse of being
14:19right or center and therefore militantly
14:25against biased or what have you against
14:27these forces.
14:29But this is the US parliament, the US
14:31Congress really and there is this
14:35funding link from China.
14:38This is very worrying is the Congress
14:40party is the other opposition parties
14:43who are giving a platform to this and I
14:46have no other word viewers to use except
14:48for insurrectionists.
14:51Are you guilty of promoting
14:54anarchy sir?
14:58Thank you for having me in the show
14:59Rahul. There [clears throat] are two
15:00aspects in this. Number one to your
15:02first aspect legitimate street protests
15:05peacefully democratically done the way I
15:06do to want to change the government
15:08peacefully democratically like I want to
15:10do is a form of democracy. I don't think
15:13we're discussing that. I don't think we
15:15should put everything under one roof.
15:17But however, is there a threat to India
15:20particularly from China and other
15:22places? We do believe so. It's happening
15:23in Myanmar. Sorry, it's happening in
15:25Manipur right now as we speak. Left wing
15:28groups, various groups are right now
15:30engaged in the most barbaric conflict
15:33India seen much more worse than Jammu
15:35and Kashmir and Punjab. It's happening
15:36right now this decade. The government
15:38has completely concealed. Is that also
15:40the opposition spot? There was a US
15:42gentleman Matthew Arin Van Djk accused
15:45of wanting to completely hit India with
15:48missiles. He had drones which he hit
15:49Myanmar, a commercial plane with six
15:51Ukrainians. He's gone away on your
15:53channel. The BJP promise us he won't.
15:55He's got away. We have no answers about
15:57that. Is the opposition responsible for
15:59that. Let's come to Delhi closer home.
16:01There's another group of youngsters like
16:03our group. There's another group that
16:04indulged in violence with the police.
16:06They they hit the police quite brutally
16:08not just in Delhi and other states of
16:09India. Fires withdrawn. Two union
16:12ministers went begging, crawling,
16:14pleading, wiggling and withdrew the
16:16FIRs. They may have gone to jail now on
16:19other charges. These charges they didn't
16:21go to jail for hitting a policeman. Is
16:23the opposition responsible for that?
16:24Let's go to the next point uh Rahul
16:26which is pertinent to note in this. The
16:29six months ago, eight months ago, we
16:31were told a particular gentleman is a
16:32great threat to India's national
16:33sovereignty. Two union ministers went
16:35and fed him juice. Is the opposition
16:37responsible? I think we have to
16:39understand one thing. Would there be an
16:40attempt to destabilize India? Yes. Is it
16:43only from China? I think China would
16:45have an interest. Is it also from the
16:46west? I do believe the West also has an
16:48interest. We saw an American national
16:49involved in that. Not the first time. We
16:51saw David Hed in 2008. Forget the
16:53governments. The fact is that India will
16:55always face threats. It's how
16:57governments face up to it and this
17:00government is lacking in doing so.
17:02>> But you didn't answer my question, Mr.
17:04Punawala. I asked you a very specific
17:06question.
17:07Left-wing groups
17:10are on the stage of the India alliance
17:13which is the opposition alliance here in
17:15this country. and I have established
17:18that some of them have connections to a
17:21shadowy figure whose link to the Chinese
17:24Communist Party and through documents
17:28that we have accessed from the US
17:30Congress and oversight committees there
17:34it is clear that these organizations
17:36have received funds to do what viewers
17:39you have to ask and and if it is and if
17:43it is as you yourself have said
17:45individuals who have probably a vested
17:49interest in destabilizing India. Why are
17:51they standing on the indie alliance
17:55blocks stage? Why is Rahul Gandhi for
17:58example and you can see them? Those are
18:00the photos.
18:00>> That's a great question.
18:01>> Uh the Congress is meeting with
18:03Progressive International. This is a
18:05group that is funded
18:07>> by uh by Singhham the Chinese Communist
18:11Party's
18:13>> principal catch globally. Why is he
18:16there with these people?
18:18>> I think that's a great great question
18:19you ask and I think it should be
18:20answered. But before we answer this
18:22question which I should the first part
18:24I'm very grateful that the US Congress
18:26put this out put out in documents. It
18:28showed that they were alert and aware
18:29what does that show about our
18:30intelligence that they were snoozing
18:32sleeping that they had no idea. Point
18:35number one. Point number two why don't
18:37they act now that this evidence is
18:39there? Point number three it's not just
18:41these loonies. There's another loony,
18:43Jeremy Corbyn, leader of opposition in
18:45the UK some time ago. The honorable
18:47prime minister met him. His views are
18:49even more radical than Ilan Omar. At
18:51what point are we going to call this
18:53out? If the government has no idea who
18:54these people are, you are blaming the
18:56opposition. I take that. What is the
18:57government doing? It took the US
18:59government to
19:00>> I think you're confusing two issues. We
19:02are talking today not about criminality.
19:05We're talking about moral impropriy.
19:08>> Jeremy Bobin.
19:09>> No, one second. So, so did Rahul Gandhi.
19:11Well, Rahul Gandhi's actually in fact
19:12even met Ilhan Umar. What are you
19:14talking about?
19:16>> That was in a group.
19:17>> No, that was in a group. That was in
19:18oneonone. That was in a group. That was
19:20in a That was in a That was in a No, no,
19:24one second. You still didn't answer my
19:26question. You still didn't answer my
19:28question. You said it's a great
19:30question, but before I answer, let me
19:32give you my little two-piece. Now I'm
19:34asking you once again,
19:37be that as it may, the government is
19:40snoozing, the people will deal with the
19:41government. They will vote it out. They
19:44have a view on it. They'll do what they
19:46have to do. But I'm asking you,
19:48insurrectionists,
19:50people who have links with individuals
19:53who are less than savory, why are they
19:56on
19:59the platform of the opposition alliance,
20:02the principal opposition alliance,
20:04standing with the leader of the
20:06opposition? Can you answer this
20:08question? Modi is not standing with
20:10them.
20:12>> He was one-on-one with Jeremy Corbyn.
20:14But let's come to the to your answer.
20:15Jeremy Corbyn at one time was the leader
20:17of the opposition in his country. What
20:20do you expect the prime minister to do?
20:21Shoot him? I mean, come on, use your
20:23brain.
20:24>> But he was a leader of the opposition
20:26when Rahul Gandhi was hobnobbing with
20:29him. He had been outed as an
20:31anti-semitic
20:33>> communist. No, I'm asking you a
20:36question. Forget all the watery here.
20:38Tell me why are you giving him a
20:40platform or all these individuals a
20:42platform?
20:44I am telling I am telling you maybe the
20:46opposition didn't know just like the
20:47government was clueless maybe.
20:49>> Oh, how innocent
20:51Rahul Shanka sitting in a news channel
20:54has been able to access what is pretty
20:56much open- source intelligence viewers
20:59and the great Congress party that keeps
21:01flitting and the other opposition
21:04parties in this country that keep
21:05flitting back and forth from the west
21:07and have friends in these organizations
21:08don't know. I find that hard to believe
21:11but I'm not going to pass judgment. Let
21:13me let me bring in Dr. Ranganatan as
21:16well as Mr. Nalin Kohli and Errol Morco
21:19Errol Morco who's here with us. U Dr.
21:22Ranganatan what do you make
21:25of what we have exposed?
21:29>> Uh good evening Rahul and good evening
21:31to my fellow panelists. It's a lovely
21:33discussion. Uh look congratulations for
21:37this uh amazing expose has to be said
21:40but I have to also say this that if
21:43there is one thing that I grant the
21:44communists just one it is that they are
21:48proud of wrecking every land where
21:53communism has reached the shores of they
21:55are there is nothing hidden about them.
21:59They eulogize mass murderers. They are
22:02proud of their destructive ideology,
22:05destructive philosophy that wrecks
22:07nations from the insides. So there is
22:09nothing new in one sense if you know
22:11what I mean. This anti-science cult has
22:14resulted in a murder of 100 million
22:16people. It is the antithesis of
22:19Darwinism in that it absorbs competition
22:21and empathy. It attracts hateful,
22:24incompetent failures in life. It
22:26cushions their guilt of destroying
22:28things they are incapable ever of
22:29building. And one must understand this
22:32Rahul. They are proud of it because they
22:34know that the thin lines that divide
22:36communism, anarchy and revolution are
22:38there for a purpose hopscotch. They have
22:41perfected the art of jumping from one
22:43square to another. Be it France, be it
22:46India, be it Venezuela, be it Cuba,
22:48communism today, anarchism tomorrow,
22:50revolution forever. The fact of the
22:52matter is it is a religion where you
22:55keep convincing each other that you are
22:57correct. And what inevitably follows is
22:59authoritarianism. I never blame a
23:02communist. I blame the state for turning
23:05people towards communism. And you
23:08touched on this very briefly when you
23:10talked about our books, when you talked
23:12about why is it that most of the media,
23:15most of the universities are infiltrated
23:17by them. That is the most clever part of
23:19what communists do. How else would you
23:22imagine that they call everyone else
23:24fascist when they call Hitler being the
23:28perpetrator of world war by invading
23:30Poland when they don't tell anybody that
23:33it was in fact ribbon top molotov packed
23:35that when Hitler invaded Poland so did
23:38the Soviet Union so did Stalin in fact
23:40at many places they celebrated the
23:42victory together of annexing Poland
23:45nobody knows that nobody knows that she
23:47guara who's imprinted on every t-shirt
23:49was a homophobic mass murderer who ran
23:52kangaroo courts. Nobody knows that their
23:54all-time hero Chomsky was the cushioning
23:58of polepot who murdered 2 million. He
24:00disputed that figure. So they in fact
24:03they are the children of goals who said
24:05accuse the other person of what you are
24:07guilty of. Look the fact of the matter
24:09is you look at India for example. Why
24:13would I blame the communists? WAS IT NOT
24:15this government that SAID WE ARE PROUD
24:17OF NOT changing even a full stop or a
24:19comma in our textbooks? When the same
24:22textbook eulogized Mao who killed 60
24:24million of his own people when you have
24:26communist political parties who take
24:28part in elections out here who eologize
24:31Stalin who killed 15 million of his own
24:33people. What else is to be expected from
24:35these people who go on to the poor onto
24:38the streets to protest the economic
24:40policies? You know what Rahul Gandhi was
24:42about to do when he was standing for
24:44elections when he you know the
24:46distribution when he talked of
24:48distributing wealth when he talked of
24:49inheritance every single policy that the
24:52communist brought off is centralized in
24:55that it is not hidden from any nation
24:58and you have one gentleman who's from
25:00the Thatcher Institute if I'm not
25:02mistaken just ask him the pains that
25:05Maggi Thatcher had to take to bring UK
25:08to what it is today you had the coal
25:10minor strike, you had privatization,
25:13everything was being protested. So the
25:16fact of the matter is you need people
25:18like Thatcher, you need people like
25:19Ronald Reagan, you need people who would
25:21stand up to them. So let's stop blaming
25:24the communists. As I said, communism
25:26cannot be uh you know eradicated except
25:29through her im so
25:32>> we have the herd immunity not yet in
25:34India.
25:35>> Nalin Kohli, that's where the buck has
25:37to stop at the government's door. At
25:39least the US Congress which is its
25:41equivalent of parliament is subpoenaing
25:43some of these organizations
25:46we established here at least some of the
25:49organizations the agencies etc.
25:52Neville Singhham's funding to certain
25:55news portals which run
25:59constant propaganda but nothing came off
26:02that. So either we to expect that
26:05nothing is illegal about all of this
26:07that uh yes at best it's a moral
26:10impropriety but when push comes to shove
26:12we'll sit opposite these people like the
26:14CJP and we'll say their kids and you
26:17know let them be let them learn from
26:19their mistakes as the prime minister
26:20said and let's uh turn the other cheek
26:28Rahul as we move on with age uh we see
26:33and hear more things that shock our
26:35conscience. So you just made a remark
26:40but a few days ago in the newspaper I
26:41read of an 11 year old child raping I
26:44think a three-year-old girl. Now by
26:46every standard under under law they are
26:49children but what happened is a crime of
26:52horrific proportions that for an adult
26:55would could lead to even the death
26:57sentence. So I think what we need to
27:00back down on is not get stuck in these
27:02semantics of age of who's doing what but
27:06come down to the basics. The basics is
27:09you have to prevent a crime from
27:11happening rather than have laws for
27:14dealing with it after it happens.
27:16Certainly we have laws to deal with a
27:19postcrime situation because after all
27:22rule of law is the basis on which
27:24society is administered governed and you
27:28expect in a society that people can
27:31without fear without concern act and go
27:36about their daily life which is what
27:38right to life and liberty is all about.
27:40right to having a profession or
27:41business. All being guaranteed rights
27:44including the right to protest. But each
27:46but the right to protest comes with the
27:49right not to perpetuate or result in a
27:53violence not disrupt another citizen's
27:57right to livelihood to their freedom of
28:00movement to their freedom of uh business
28:04[cough] and [clears throat] also
28:06the right to live with your life. Now
28:09where we are today I said you have to
28:11prevent a crime. So if there is
28:13information that or intelligence input
28:16that a terrorist attack is to take
28:18place,
28:19any Indian in their sane mind who loves
28:22the country will say I hope our agencies
28:25will find those people, those sleeper
28:28cells, those terrorists and prevent the
28:31terrorist incident from happening. Or if
28:34someone is intended to do a murder, hope
28:37that our agencies, investigative
28:39agencies, police will prevent that
28:42potential murderer killing the victim.
28:45>> The same holds true when there is a
28:47threat to your sovereignty, to your
28:49country and his security. I have not
28:52heard from the who's a friend and a
28:55Congress supporter say once that we want
28:59these fellows exposed so that our
29:02country is protected.
29:03>> Okay.
29:03>> What the question is what is the
29:05government doing? Have you said we want
29:08them and we expect the government to do
29:10so. We stand with the government to
29:11expose it and mind it. If any one of
29:14them is involved in a movement in the
29:18name of a student movement trying to
29:20infiltrate it with an agenda to spread
29:23violence, we as a Congress supporter or
29:25a Congress party will be the first to
29:28stand there to protect the motherland.
29:30Okay.
29:30>> Along with the
29:31>> very quickly before I bring in Eron
29:33Morocco who has been extremely patient.
29:35>> We don't hear that.
29:36>> Okay. We don't hear that. He says punal
29:39I asked you that question. Why are you
29:41giving a platform to these elements? I
29:44didn't get a clear answer.
29:47>> Nalin Kohi G is a very respected lawyer
29:49and a friend. I absolutely think we
29:51stand by them. But it is his government
29:53that went crawling and withdrew the
29:54cases. It is his government that pulls
29:56it back. It is his government that's not
29:58serious. Even if these allegations are
29:59true, I have no reason to disbelieve
30:01you. Who is to act? Maybe I'm guilty of
30:03hosting them. Fine. That's my guilt. I
30:05hosted them. Please act. Who's stopping?
30:08They need Punara's permission to act.
30:10>> Let me flip this. Let me flip this
30:12question. Okay, let me flip this
30:13question. Bring in Errol Morco, who's
30:15really waited a long time. And I and I I
30:17really thank you for your patience.
30:20Errol Morco, you know what the left will
30:22say. You know how they've been reacting
30:24to what Fox News has been putting out or
30:26what CNN News8 will put out or what the
30:29US Congress is going to be doing in
30:31those hearings. they'll say that this is
30:33the rights attempt to gaslight a
30:36student's movement and quash disscent.
30:40How do you respond to that kind of uh
30:43narrative?
30:44>> Well, well, first off, thank you for
30:46having me. And I think the biggest thing
30:48I would point to is my old friend
30:50Charlie Kirk who wrote a book in 2018
30:52called Campus Battlefield about my time
30:55as my time wasn't about me obviously but
30:58I was in that time frame period at UC
31:01Berkeley and you saw what was obviously
31:03a global movement that was being made to
31:06look like a local movement co-opting
31:08students manipulating young people
31:10convincing them that they are the cruel
31:12oppressor because they have the ability
31:15to get a job and earn money now they're
31:17incredibly privileged and and and just
31:19you know turning people's heads around
31:21inside out and on that battlefield which
31:24is effectively what it was it spilled
31:26off into the streets we had violence
31:29burning of the the Starbucks and the
31:31banks one thing that was consistent was
31:33the funding was coming from the outside
31:35and you saw that student movement spill
31:37out of Berkeley go east all the way
31:40across into Europe infect all of Europe
31:43and now it's a global society so the
31:44exact same entities the Soros funding,
31:47these types of people who've been
31:48brought up on this program. Your expose
31:50is fantastic. Your monologue fantastic.
31:52You hit the nail on the head. This is a
31:54global basically left-wing inifat
31:56movement that will not stop and has been
31:59proven to willingly want to use violence
32:02to destroy what they claim to be
32:03protecting, which is free speech, which
32:05is student rights. So, they gaslight
32:07everybody to assume that they are the
32:09victims. And and there's no real way to
32:11deal with these people except for a
32:12strong individual to come and and stand
32:15up to them. and like a nonset. And
32:17unless you have a leader like that,
32:18you're not going to be able to get this
32:20scourge out and it's only going to
32:22fester until it metastasizes throughout
32:24the rest of your culture. It is very
32:25well connected and it must be stopped.
32:28>> Okay. Very quickly, you want to say
32:29something Dr. Ranganatan before I move
32:31on?
32:32>> Yes, I think well I completely agree
32:34with uh the previous panelist. It must
32:36be stopped but the state has to lead the
32:38way and in India I'm sorry with due
32:41respect to my dear friend Nalin Kohi the
32:42state is absolutely weak. The anarchists
32:45know this. For example, very recently,
32:48the state withdrew the FIRS, the police
32:50cases against those individuals who
32:52rioted on the protects that they have
32:54done it for the first time. The state
32:57kept quiet, withdrew cases against the
32:59individuals who ran riot during the 26th
33:02February January, you know, removing of
33:05our Indian flag and hoisting some some
33:07else flag and 400 policemen were
33:08injured. The fact of the matter is the
33:10communists have guilt tripped the state
33:13into believing that they must seek
33:16validation. How else do you explain that
33:18when the entire government and the BJP
33:21cries [ __ ] day and night about Indian
33:23express about Bloomberg being fake
33:25newspers you have the prime minister
33:27writing for them inaugurating their
33:29evening shows.
33:30>> What is that?
33:31>> You know we should you should use the
33:32word weak with a qualifier. The Modi
33:35government viewers, let me tell you, has
33:37eradicated
33:40the red menace, the Mauist terrorists
33:44across eight states of the union.
33:48>> They occupied a huge corridor. There is
33:51not a stone being thrown by the way in
33:54Kashmir today. Lot of people found
33:57themselves friendless and in jail. So we
34:01need to be we need to add a qualifier
34:04there caveat though maybe I don't know I
34:08don't want to speak for Nalin Kohli and
34:09I would like your quick comment on that
34:11Nalin Kohli did you go too far in giving
34:14them the benefit of doubt maybe you
34:17shouldn't have you should have set the
34:19bar very high for the CJP and for these
34:22communist so-called Gen Z protesters and
34:25so and so forth maybe you should have
34:27just quarterized the wound
34:32Well, you know, Rahul, there's never a
34:34perfect answer
34:36>> and you know, any hardcore nationalist
34:41and clearing thinking person like Dr.
34:43Anandangar Ratanj would obviously have a
34:47strong point of view and fairly
34:49justified from that perspective to say
34:51we need to see more action. But I think
34:54when it's for the state, the state has
34:55to balance a lot of priorities uh
34:58including your citizens rights,
35:00including the need for security and the
35:02need to act in some places act later.
35:06And uh all I can say is that the Modi
35:08government will not be found wanting uh
35:12and we have seen after July uh that kind
35:15of situation has not developed. The
35:17police has been under pressure. The
35:19central reserve police force has been
35:21under pressure. All of them have been
35:23there on uh you know weekends and other
35:26days to prevent a situation like that to
35:29come and I think in fairness lot of
35:30right-thinking students have also seen
35:33that there were elements that came in in
35:34July that shouldn't have been there.
35:36They've not also responded in that
35:38manner.
35:39>> H so maybe viewers the Modi government
35:43retreated strategically. It decided to
35:45give them the long rope and some of them
35:48have metaphorically hung themselves and
35:51perhaps that's the reason why their
35:53protests are fizzling because you've
35:57heard the evidence there.
36:00Perhaps you'll be a little wiser the
36:02next time you see a bunch of students
36:04running through the streets trying to
36:06suggest that they're doing it for a
36:08grander cause.
36:10Look at the people behind them. Never
36:12look at the front line. I leave it at
36:14this view yours.

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