Full video: Chris Watts tells father and investigators about deaths of his wife and daughters — Transcript
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- 0:12[Music]
- 0:16I brought Graham in here Parshin up
- 0:19results okay so it's completely clear
- 0:27that you were on during the testing and
- 0:29I figured you know that he did not pass
- 0:32the polygraph test server okay so now we
- 0:34need to talk about what actually
- 0:36happened I feel like you're probably
- 0:38ready to do that I didn't lie to you on
- 0:42that polygraph I promise
- 0:43Chris I'm understo time I tossed out for
- 0:49a minute take a deep breath I want you
- 0:53to take a deep breath right now
- 1:00there's a reason you feel sick to your
- 1:02stomach and when people hold stuff
- 1:04inside it makes you physically ill and I
- 1:08can just tell in your face I could tell
- 1:10you tell from the second you walked in
- 1:11that you were wanting to just come clean
- 1:14and just be done with this and I
- 1:17appreciate that because you knew sitting
- 1:19down in that chair that you weren't
- 1:20going to pass today and you knew I was
- 1:22going to find out because I told you
- 1:24that
- 1:24and then you continued to stay knowing
- 1:28that you can at the end say you know
- 1:30what maybe get this off my chest like I
- 1:33just need to tell you what happened
- 1:36we're not we're not here to play games
- 1:38we're not here to do any of that with
- 1:39you we just want to know what happened
- 1:42so can you start from the beginning and
- 1:44tell us what happened everything that
- 1:47that's a told you I did not lie on the
- 1:49polygraph I am how much I could I tell
- 1:54you right now like if I'm an option
- 1:58right now you did not pass the polygraph
- 1:59though I know you were being accepted so
- 2:01that's not even a shoe in issue right
- 2:03now the issue right now is what happened
- 2:06to Shan
- 2:07Ella and Celeste that's
- 2:11okay okay so let's talk about that hope
- 2:15I know I know you want to tell us I can
- 2:18I can see it in your face holding this
- 2:22fly-in it's going to do nothing for you
- 2:24I know that's like I'm not like trying
- 2:27to like current things up like in your
- 2:30head are because in no kitc normal
- 2:33normal people would do that I hope you
- 2:35will not make a mistake initially you're
- 2:37going to go I know you're talking about
- 2:39I've been doing things that's normal I
- 2:42would expect that it's just like if you
- 2:44ask your kid you know did you write on
- 2:46the wall and I go no you're like you
- 2:48have marker on your hands like I know
- 2:50you just weren't on the wall they're
- 2:51like okay that's a natural reaction that
- 2:54someone's going to initially lie about
- 2:55something like that and then eventually
- 2:57tell the truth so this is your
- 2:59eventually telling the truth time this
- 3:02is where this is where the rubber meets
- 3:04the road Chris like don't let this
- 3:08continue any longer please I'm not
- 3:11trying to make anything continue I want
- 3:14them back home like but you know they're
- 3:17not coming back home you know that I
- 3:20don't know the back of my head I hope
- 3:22they come back home but you know they're
- 3:25not I hope they come back home and I
- 3:30don't know they're not coming back home
- 3:34Chris Jimmy I'm confused and here's
- 3:38we're confused about I told you that
- 3:41we've done some work overnight yes I see
- 3:43that we've got a lot of leads okay there
- 3:45wasn't a lie either
- 3:46you know a lot more than you think we do
- 3:48okay and here's what we're confused
- 3:51you're this great guy I'm not just
- 3:54telling you that guy I'm telling you
- 3:56that because everyone tells us that okay
- 3:59we can't find anyone to say anything bad
- 4:01about you chris is a great guy was a
- 4:03good father he's a good man
- 4:06or confused as to why you're not taking
- 4:09care of your beautiful children come on
- 4:12take care of them right now right now
- 4:15I don't know where they're at
- 4:23I do not know where they are at so I
- 4:29could have my babies back home right now
- 4:31I would I want them back
- 4:33I want everybody back
- 4:39as he got on his truth
- 5:11[Music]
- 5:32[Music]
- 5:35so let's keep talking about your family
- 5:41we just can't figure out
- 5:44where there's two creases
- 5:47we talked about that last night yes we
- 5:49just can't figure out there's a Chris
- 5:54okay if somebody asked me like 50
- 5:58caliber team I would say Oscar mom
- 6:00doesn't truth right and so it is very
- 6:05surprising to me and it warms my heart
- 6:07that you're the type of man who can pack
- 6:10a bag in the morning and you know it's
- 6:12just what to put in there you know just
- 6:14what to put in there as a backup in case
- 6:16they have an accident okay you know the
- 6:17clothes to put in there you know what
- 6:19they had for breakfast you know and for
- 6:20a snack and a dinner and a nighttime
- 6:23snack you can tell me that book you read
- 6:25to your daughters okay I'm really low
- 6:28and you're not faking then are you
- 6:30that's real okay there's a lot of times
- 6:34to come in here and try to tell me that
- 6:35and I know they're lying okay because
- 6:38they can't answer those questions that
- 6:39you can answer yeah but you are here
- 6:43today aligned about something else so we
- 6:46need to talk about that
- 6:48I choose are I know
- 6:51and she's very good
- 6:53can I
- 6:57I'm not proud of it I I don't think any
- 7:02guy could have to bust a out ever do it
- 7:03but I did I know
- 7:06keep coming
- 7:10she choose me of it I denied it I had
- 7:15cheated on her half so horrible for it I
- 7:17she was pregnant and he was I don't want
- 7:26and her I cheated our emotional that she
- 7:30did owner and
- 7:32[Music]
- 7:35I feel absolutely horrible about this
- 7:37but that's what I've been holding I
- 7:39picked up when I didn't go to rock again
- 7:42I was with her okay
- 7:45I went to dinner with her
- 7:50keep going
- 7:52that's five weeks I was alone I was with
- 7:55her bosom and most was I'm and you're
- 7:59doing a good job this is the Chris that
- 8:00I knew would come out today this is the
- 8:02Chrissy tales from truth because you're
- 8:04a truth teller
- 8:08that's a half bottle of scuff em over
- 8:10there and jululu
- 8:12okay I mean that some dirt god monster
- 8:16who is her I don't want to get her
- 8:20involved in this
- 8:21I want to run our life like it's
- 8:22something something like this I don't
- 8:24want her involved in this
- 8:25okay so we talked about that a little
- 8:27bit yes I knew that you would say you
- 8:32didn't want to get her involved but if I
- 8:35did because you liked it here this is a
- 8:36wonderful person lighten and she knew I
- 8:39was married yes that's what we're going
- 8:41through issues yes yes I thought of that
- 8:46you know we're going to get a steal at
- 8:48the end like you're going to be separate
- 8:49like once I figured out what that was I
- 8:51didn't know what that was going to be I
- 8:52know I had no idea I like you know I saw
- 8:57her took my breath away and I'd never
- 9:00thought in a million years that could
- 9:02happen I know you think I'm a bigger guy
- 9:04Thanks but like it was I never felt that
- 9:09way about anybody anybody of all the
- 9:11time Christmas on your phone no no I'm
- 9:16just
- 9:18when can we do this
- 9:21I know you want to take care of her
- 9:23because me is because your type of guy
- 9:25takes care of women it is you took care
- 9:28of your wife get to give your daughters
- 9:29you were very good at taking care and
- 9:31you want to take care of her so if we
- 9:33make a deal I don't think this girl did
- 9:40anything to hurt anybody but I can't
- 9:43walk out if you're wondering so we leave
- 9:46her out of it I'll Drive you back to
- 9:48your wife and your daughters okay
- 9:49where are they that I do not know that
- 9:54was what I was holding back like I
- 9:55didn't know like what I did I know Chris
- 9:58in an interview today
- 9:59you weren't asked about infidelity you
- 10:02were asked about that was I was holding
- 10:05back from last night that when what we
- 10:07build today how that works you have
- 10:10reactions to every single question not
- 10:12just the ones that we talked about being
- 10:15important
- 10:18I thought you wanted me to live a lie
- 10:20like though you're talking about no the
- 10:22ones about her disappearance and knowing
- 10:25where she's at and
- 10:26what you about seen her last I was not
- 10:30lying about those things kind of time I
- 10:33think yes okay so I'm going into that
- 10:38any retailer kami or response you in we
- 10:41knew we knew all about Nicki okay all
- 10:46about and you're doing a very good job
- 10:50right now because you didn't have to
- 10:52tell us about it but you did I could
- 10:55hold that of anyone on I we could see it
- 10:57on your chest
- 10:57I can under eyes okay here's the
- 11:00challenge that we have we knew about
- 11:02making it so we didn't need to ask you
- 11:04about her in the polygraph
- 11:06we just didn't need to clean it again
- 11:08and so that's why we didn't ask you
- 11:11really knew the answer okay we're very
- 11:14very worried about your daughter's in
- 11:15your wife I have to okay so can I tell
- 11:18you maybe based on the people that talks
- 11:22to and Tans talks to based on all the
- 11:24investigations we've done based on your
- 11:28cell phone
- 11:28voltic cell phone your wife's cell phone
- 11:31Nicki's settle phone
- 11:34based on talking with family members and
- 11:36friends of these I'm talking to Debra
- 11:38here's what we know okay I'm gonna live
- 11:41it right now here's what we know okay
- 11:42chris is a good man
- 11:44everyone said okay I'm not just telling
- 11:47you that because I want to blow smoke
- 11:49here you're good man okay
- 11:51nobody can fake answers about packing a
- 11:54backpack nobody
- 11:55you either pack a backpack for your kids
- 11:57you don't okay it should have been
- 12:01happiest time of your marriage okay
- 12:05yuanchen man this should have been the
- 12:07happiest time she's make a little money
- 12:09she's making good money you're making
- 12:11great money people have a job a
- 12:13beautiful kids a beautiful house here in
- 12:15Colorado clean air good people okay and
- 12:18on top of that you look pretty good down
- 12:21you're pretty fit okay this should have
- 12:24its time in your marriage where you guys
- 12:26were happy and thriving and productive
- 12:28okay and I believe that she Nance the
- 12:31reason none of that happened
- 12:33I believe that she's a controlling
- 12:36person maybe doesn't listen to you as
- 12:38much as he should I think that she can
- 12:44do whatever she wants and you can't okay
- 12:47I think if you were to go to a
- 12:49restaurant she would ward whatever the
- 12:51hell she wants and as soon as you order
- 12:53a nice steaks he says whoa buddy okay a
- 12:58woman that lets her man do all of the
- 13:00backpack packing and all the cooking
- 13:02I'll do all the cooking but actually
- 13:04cooks like behind your like two things
- 13:07in there Ken that's because you're a
- 13:10good person and I think that she started
- 13:12on the path to leave the marriage and
- 13:16it's ironic that we're talking about you
- 13:18and Nikki I think that she was the one
- 13:21who started on that path first what do
- 13:25you think about that
- 13:28Helena thought about that
- 13:32the other thing I think is interesting
- 13:33is even though she is that type of
- 13:36person that's controlling doesn't listen
- 13:38does what she wants is walking away from
- 13:41her kids here you are defending her
- 13:44because to your core you want to take
- 13:47care of people you love and that's the
- 13:51reason why we want to give you an
- 13:54opportunity today to just help us find
- 13:58them
- 14:00will you do that for me I'll do whatever
- 14:03I can to help the fight and where
- 14:05they're at
- 14:05okay so when she asked you do you know
- 14:09where they are or are you going to tell
- 14:12the truth about where they are we failed
- 14:13miserably okay why I'm the nervous
- 14:19person like every question asked every
- 14:21question it felt like I did I wouldn't
- 14:24say that right of thing does not
- 14:26polygraph works I don't like I don't
- 14:28know like whatever is later on though to
- 14:31say about autonomy of the process but
- 14:35like I don't know where for that Chris
- 14:41right now your dad's outside he flew
- 14:43across the country on them okay
- 14:47you're lying to him
- 14:59you lied to everyone you talk to
- 15:02and they all bought it
- 15:06will you please help us find you babies
- 15:09I want to find them I've told you over I
- 15:13want to find everyone can we go back to
- 15:19that night
- 15:21you know that we have text and we have a
- 15:26hires an election in your house and you
- 15:29know that those are trained to record
- 15:30distress okay
- 15:35you know that we know the content of
- 15:37Nikki sex messages in your text messages
- 15:39and semantic messages okay I don't know
- 15:43universe thank you all until right now
- 15:46okay
- 15:48tell us about that night again and
- 15:50please tell the truth and stuff closes
- 15:55its your I promise I've told you the
- 15:57truth we woke up at four o'clock I will
- 16:02go to four o'clock
- 16:04got dressed got ready
- 16:084:13
- 16:10to the dock
- 16:12of the house of separation
- 16:17you guys are panicking
- 16:20she accused me of like alright would you
- 16:23know heads or somebody else
- 16:25sure okay United yeah okay because she
- 16:29brought up like you know Lee mob is
- 16:31there a state dollar charge that I'm
- 16:33head of the other night
- 16:34okay cuz they're two of you and then was
- 16:36with Twiggy wasn't it okay that's me
- 16:39and so she um like at that time there is
- 16:42maybe you weren't quite ready to say
- 16:44Sian this they died everything couldn't
- 16:47I couldn't say it good
- 16:50we were trying hard enough I couldn't I
- 16:53couldn't I couldn't say that okay what
- 16:57did you say
- 16:59I just told her like home that
- 17:01separation has to go how much separation
- 17:02okay is there any descendants of yours
- 17:06she initiated the realtor a week before
- 17:09an email why because we were talking
- 17:13about we the marital issues is April and
- 17:16can't live afford live on our own
- 17:18well she can't afford live on our own I
- 17:20can't afford mom's it's just like we
- 17:22need it it's a contact man in country
- 17:25and who to contact
- 17:27well she got back pain our realtor and
- 17:30yeah okay would an say the same thing
- 17:34that your wife Kahn initiated contact
- 17:36okay do it I didn't on Monday I was I
- 17:40texted her to see if she could what she
- 17:43could do okay and that's in there to
- 17:45your prior to that tell me about the
- 17:48pregnancy and your interiors
- 17:49she said about she's by 80/20 well
- 17:53although I wanted the pros and cons of
- 17:56it I asked her she got after she got
- 17:58pregnant she could let her buy that it
- 18:00was maybe my idea syndrome
- 18:03yeah I mean those I would pop on a boy
- 18:06did you want to get pregnant
- 18:07hmm
- 18:08and then after the fact she said oh
- 18:10maybe me that wanted and she was about
- 18:13you know she 70/30 against it at that
- 18:16point
- 18:17like she would tell her friends that you
- 18:18know I was like what 70/30 gets it like
- 18:20why okay
- 18:29can you understand that some of this
- 18:31just doesn't make sense either
- 18:39how's it possible that a woman and two
- 18:41kids are just completely gone the basic
- 18:43theory I'm sure I've I have nothing on
- 18:48my hands that I did nothing to help kids
- 18:51or her to make them vanish so tell me
- 18:57what happened I believe you that that
- 18:59you did nothing on your hands what
- 19:01happened I left I mean it's on video
- 19:05that I left and no I was in my truck I
- 19:07didn't like lower anything into my truck
- 19:09besides my tools my container my book
- 19:12bag my water jet my lunchbox okay but
- 19:15then what happened I drove out the
- 19:19driveway no before you drove out of the
- 19:21driveway what happened with your wife
- 19:23and your kids I didn't do anything
- 19:26they were still in the house where are
- 19:29they where did it go I don't know sir I
- 19:31really don't know your wife's not the
- 19:34type of person to banish I know she's
- 19:35not she had 10 things on her schedule
- 19:37that meant she was going to be there the
- 19:39next day that day the day after that
- 19:41with friends with a doctor okay she
- 19:43didn't leave because she wanted her to
- 19:46land to hurt her the kids
- 19:50first then actually I do anything
- 19:54financial
- 19:56there was no accident I don't of doors
- 19:57and actually I wasn't there for it it's
- 20:01a big deal if it's an accident cuz we
- 20:03can work with that Chris no there's no
- 20:05maybe what happened there's no I did not
- 20:07call it accident I didn't do anything to
- 20:10my wife and kids
- 20:13was it a misunderstanding there's some
- 20:16systemic we had that talk
- 20:18there's no such thing or I I didn't tell
- 20:21her about the affair okay I didn't Alex
- 20:26from this understand flexion
- 20:27miscommunicated Emily's understand that
- 20:28good but I probably should have told her
- 20:33right then honestly I mean everything
- 20:35was on the table anyway right
- 20:37I said it's told her right then but I
- 20:40didn't because I I just couldn't myself
- 20:42to do it what would your plan what were
- 20:45you going to do how many separation
- 20:47going to work like once we got separated
- 20:51I get my own place and then I mean it's
- 20:58kids you split with the kids I was
- 21:00hoping we're about thinking take it slow
- 21:06and you know that anything develops like
- 21:10um you know at home place
- 21:20if I did find it hard that here you talk
- 21:23about having this emotional you know
- 21:27conversation with Shannon and your
- 21:29bawling and crying together and you have
- 21:32not shed one tear in two days that
- 21:34you've been here no not one and I help
- 21:38me understand that because I don't get
- 21:40it you're seeing your baby girl and you
- 21:45have not shed one tear over them not
- 21:48being around Chris I wish my boy girl up
- 21:55in the store for 10 seconds and I start
- 21:57to go panic panic I have not seen any of
- 22:02that from you at all help me understand
- 22:06that I love the script I would never do
- 22:09anything just because I haven't shed
- 22:10it's here next we're out here I don't
- 22:15don't look into that like I don't love
- 22:18my daddy
- 22:19why are you getting here you're crying
- 22:20with your wife that you're leaving her
- 22:22yeah but you don't cry that your two
- 22:25little baby girl boy they're still
- 22:26around so I'm hoping they're still
- 22:28somewhere give me ask them right now
- 22:30you're not reading stories to them at
- 22:32night you're not giving them
- 22:33night sex you're not giving them their
- 22:36medicine you're not waking up with them
- 22:38in the morning
- 22:39I know this like I
- 22:42so that should cause you pain it does
- 22:45cause pain I don't see that I don't see
- 22:49that I want to see the Chris that cares
- 22:51I would find Chris that you know feel
- 22:53bad about what he did and wants to you
- 22:56know give this off his chest and be done
- 22:57with it and let us find your little
- 22:59girls so that they're not out there in
- 23:01the middle of a field or whatever
- 23:03somewhere I don't do that a local girl
- 23:07to show us that show us that chill wish
- 23:12this Chris I'm not this Chris I'm not
- 23:14I'm not showing you that curtain I'm
- 23:16showing you the Krista cares by the girl
- 23:18and his wife just because I haven't
- 23:21showed it here shouldn't make you feel
- 23:22like I haven't bet the love isn't there
- 23:24for them it's weird and timing I
- 23:29understand you have to try to totally
- 23:32see where you're coming from
- 23:33trust me like there's nothing just
- 23:37because I hope people can be pushed to
- 23:40the point where they do something that
- 23:42they regret it happens every single day
- 23:45Otto but part of what makes you a man is
- 23:48the guy that goes through
- 23:52but this is what I did and I'm going to
- 23:55pay for what I did I tell you what I did
- 23:57and I'm gonna be honest about it Chris
- 24:01we can keep talking to you once we find
- 24:03these girls okay once we find these
- 24:05girls in your wife right no matter how
- 24:07we find them no matter what condition
- 24:09they're in we can keep talking to you
- 24:12you can tell us guys it's not as bad as
- 24:14it looks
- 24:15and you can say let me tell you what
- 24:19happened I would never come forward to
- 24:20your grammar if you can no I wasn't
- 24:22comfortable yet but now that
- 24:23everything's known that's deep girls
- 24:25have found and ssin and out however
- 24:27they're found it's okay we can keep
- 24:30talking to you Christian and do
- 24:33something to them no I don't know
- 24:35I'm sure yes I've no clue that you
- 24:37wouldn't know they didn't leave the
- 24:39house didn't do something to them and
- 24:43then do you feel like you had to do some
- 24:44fishing in they were at the house when I
- 24:49left they were there they weren't there
- 24:52they didn't leave they vanished
- 24:57your date only way they could have left
- 25:01it in your truck there's no way it's
- 25:04like I didn't just throw them in my
- 25:07truck I think you know your trunk Achebe
- 25:10address write this did you told your
- 25:12boss I am going to separation I may be
- 25:14staying at a friend's house whatever you
- 25:16know that thing teens every 10 seconds
- 25:18yeah so we will know exactly um where
- 25:25you and your company is giving that to
- 25:27us
- 25:27shut up okay or even asking the right
- 25:31question Chris you're asking all across
- 25:34all the questions what are we not asking
- 25:36you right what are we doing wrong I'm
- 25:38not doing
- 25:45and she knew something
- 25:49she did anything to these kids we both
- 25:52love them with all our hearts in the way
- 25:53because in an accident something
- 25:57happened in the house that you know
- 25:58about you failed a polygraph test versus
- 26:01not about did you leave and wife vanish
- 26:04and you didn't know anything about it
- 26:05that was not what you were asked okay we
- 26:09know that something happened to all
- 26:11three of us but I want to know if
- 26:14something happened to these baby girls
- 26:15first that you had to take into your own
- 26:18hands and deal with you had to clean it
- 26:20up portion
- 26:25Chris don't tell us there's something
- 26:28that happened to these big girls
- 26:37look at them hello
- 26:39for 10 min I was watching videos
- 26:45we have no doubt you love these curls
- 26:47with all of your heart and no doubt
- 26:53oh we make mistakes
- 26:55that's okay
- 26:58because what we do with those mistakes
- 26:59that make us who we are
- 27:04Christian seems like an thinking about
- 27:06it right now
- 27:08to them
- 27:14I feel like you cleaned up for her
- 27:20I feel like that's the type of guy that
- 27:21you are
- 27:31which one of you touched the breathing
- 27:33thing
- 27:34well they both have inhalers that she
- 27:36she has the URI in ship with a sudden
- 27:39guidance she had palms breathing and
- 27:46probably like her allergies or whatnot
- 27:50they could shed anything thanks but
- 27:52she's had to some of them just copy
- 27:53these and everything conservators that
- 27:55told you though do you think she had
- 27:57trouble reading that night and Shan
- 28:00freaked out and didn't want to live
- 28:04without her baby girl
- 28:10so
- 28:13did you hear about the homicide that
- 28:15happened in a war the guy beat that
- 28:17family to death with a ball-peen hammer
- 28:22only person one survivors three-year-old
- 28:24sibling that shouldn't grow up to be a
- 28:28woman no family to a woman dad brother
- 28:33sister
- 28:38she says I wish I could died with them
- 28:41and there are times that people freaked
- 28:44out
- 28:45I've seen it I mean
- 28:46in law for some for almost 20 years I've
- 28:49seen it
- 28:50parent freak out and they're like oh my
- 28:53god like I can't have my baby girls
- 28:57without each other they're best friends
- 29:02like twins third you know you wake each
- 29:05other up in the morning and I understand
- 29:08that
- 29:12we have mom in Castle Rock that
- 29:16suffocated also baby girls
- 29:22she's like my husband was going to take
- 29:25them and she's like I just couldn't just
- 29:27and I thought I was doing right by them
- 29:30I thought I was saving them pain and I
- 29:37get it what what she shouldn't pain she
- 29:42didn't want them to have to live another
- 29:44mom
- 29:50Christmas has a wait it's going to be on
- 29:52you first here
- 29:53until we resolve it tonight
- 29:57unless we can talk about this more
- 29:58tonight they're gonna call you forever I
- 30:01promise you when you start talking to us
- 30:03you will feel better I know you already
- 30:05feel better about getting there
- 30:06Nikki off your tests please don't please
- 30:10don't involve further than theirs or
- 30:11anything like that
- 30:12see you got to help me we're giving you
- 30:18a lifeline right now you need to take it
- 30:19you need to reach out take it did not
- 30:23like things tonight the last night here
- 30:25with them she had that dress on
- 30:29right on the 8th there man it wasn't
- 30:36this but she had bankers on Simon ride
- 30:39up two buttons on the back I take much
- 30:43like get her down on that night did you
- 30:46guys make sure they were warm when you
- 30:48left the house
- 30:51make sure they were warm there there
- 30:55always will Arthur they always have what
- 30:58their their beds are always warm
- 31:03we miss taking care of them the very end
- 31:06but they're always there they're always
- 31:09taken care of they're always they never
- 31:11miss a meal
- 31:20with their blankets on their animals
- 31:25and that's how you cared
- 31:30that's why caring that day
- 31:32me I'm always caring for these kids
- 31:34nothing in this in this world for my
- 31:38life
- 31:43I believe that
- 31:45I believe that and I believe someone
- 31:47made the fake weather issues that you or
- 31:49Shannon you either clean up after
- 31:53Shannon or you make a mistake
- 31:55and I want to believe that maybe I ended
- 31:58it and you felt compelled to fix this so
- 32:03should end it look bad that's why that's
- 32:07why I want to believe
- 32:10I don't know you're not telling me that
- 32:12so makes me think the worst like did you
- 32:15get better all three of my life you're
- 32:18into monsters not for anything like she
- 32:21means it'll tell us Chris chinks are
- 32:27crazy
- 32:27can I talk my daughter's help us
- 32:29absolutely
- 32:31do you want to bring him in here nah I
- 32:34had like flew across the country crash
- 32:38him how about this
- 32:40if we brought it down in here would you
- 32:43please tell them what happened
- 32:48Tech so I'm not going here for like five
- 32:50hours and not late
- 32:52absolutely Chris doing that it's not
- 32:57going to feel
- 33:01he deserves an answer it's your best
- 33:04friend
- 33:09there's only one person you wanted here
- 33:10most energy dad
- 33:15or detail
- 33:18I love them
- 33:22as for me by my side
- 33:29he knows more than we do they are good
- 33:31man
- 33:32and he knows as much as you want a
- 33:36protection
- 33:39I think he would tell you to do the
- 33:41right thing
- 33:43before we get in can I go out there and
- 33:46talk to him well I don't know that you
- 33:48want to do it out there because there's
- 33:49a lot of people going through the halls
- 33:51should we bring them in here
- 33:53Joseph L
- 33:57can you mess with it okay we just ask a
- 34:02couple more questions
- 34:09it seems like you're about to interpret
- 34:12it
- 34:17is there any way that you can help us
- 34:20understand more about you nan and why
- 34:24maybe something happened so that we will
- 34:28get a bad picture about her
- 34:30[Music]
- 34:32what I mean is what happened that night
- 34:39softly after I talk to her with the
- 34:42girls
- 34:46like when we were having that
- 34:47conversation in bed there I not when I
- 34:54talked to her about the separation and
- 34:56the house and she hasn't about the
- 34:58affair and that's that's how that
- 35:02compensation one god she was distraught
- 35:05she had like mascara on her face all
- 35:08that I'm going to the motional well how
- 35:13about this if we bring you dad
- 35:17will you promise me deal talking
- 35:22or you promised me the SL and everything
- 35:26would it be easier if you told him and
- 35:28he told us
- 35:35I don't know that to Louise you're not I
- 35:37tend to think it's not
- 35:39I think you're the type of guy that
- 35:40needs to take responsibility because you
- 35:42always have taking responsibility you've
- 35:44always been the right choice so I guess
- 35:47I'm just worried that if we bring your
- 35:49dad in here I could distract you
- 35:53wait thing
- 35:56it distract me from quite talking to you
- 35:59yeah I decided to talk to him
- 36:05all right I know you'll do the right
- 36:07thing I do
- 36:10I'm gonna take
- 36:15I think that you need to think a little
- 36:16bit more about them
- 36:18I need to realize that you're dead is
- 36:20nice and stop loving you no matter what
- 36:22you tell him you are his child and he
- 36:25will not stop loving you never ever and
- 36:30this is not the last chapter in anyone's
- 36:32story at all okay
- 36:43he's been here the whole time you know I
- 36:45didn't want to leave you
- 36:48have you ever seen sometimes when an
- 36:51animal's owner dies they stick around
- 36:53forever I mean it to death
- 37:02for anyone with you today okay
- 37:06keep that in mind
- 37:10he wants to hear it all
- 37:23[Music]
- 37:43you
- 37:47[Music]
- 37:57the polygraph failed it
- 38:02Americans there's too much motion
- 38:07so I'm in there
- 38:10I don't let me go
- 38:17the original election on its Medicaid
- 38:21they know how to pair and then they know
- 38:25I can't clean it all up
- 38:39gentlemen
- 38:40[Music]
- 38:46we have that concentration that more
- 38:51you know emotional and
- 38:54Toller about separation and everything
- 39:25[Music]
- 39:32she hurtled
- 39:47but they leave after that
- 39:53she said she started her begins every
- 40:19[Music]
- 40:22our children
- 40:26well
- 40:38all that talk about that
- 40:44[Music]
- 40:46of
- 40:50okay
- 40:53No
- 41:08Roisin
- 41:14you're an innovation gonna work
- 41:16[Music]
- 41:21she freaked out over separation I think
- 41:25she laid back out that that's not
- 41:31emotional stairs
- 41:38Terry Shiva's name I'm exceedingly
- 41:46Machoke nitro
- 41:52shego
- 41:55ever
- 41:57they're blue
- 42:00she took about one of that
- 42:02for definition
- 42:12say how to the
- 42:23my cold
- 42:26kongou stone
- 42:30to do all the polygons
- 42:36[Music]
- 42:40well then not nothing else to do there's
- 42:42no let's do
- 42:47[Music]
- 42:49total
- 42:55most of
- 42:57took her
- 42:59not just this speech
- 43:41like there are I know she knew about the
- 43:44affair she just waiting for me to say
- 43:46something
- 43:48she was lofted
- 43:50you know
- 43:53that's not crying what happened
- 44:25let me talk about Torah
- 44:32my entire house
- 44:38to deny other options
- 44:58careful
- 45:03operational
- 45:26- a reformed
- 45:28of separation
- 45:32but
- 45:40[Music]
- 45:50she's lost
- 45:53Oh
- 45:57and she's got a very long time
- 47:16Oh
- 47:24so I come out to what a day
- 47:42Oh
- 47:54she often
- 47:58that's not fair was going on when we
- 48:00distribution denied it
- 48:12[Music]
- 48:31[Music]
- 48:40and the range
- 48:44[Music]
- 49:08[Music]
- 49:17come on girls with you okay
- 49:24you tell us what you told you're done
- 49:30after that conversation
- 49:35you
- 49:37after that conversation we had see
- 49:41cheese melee affair at that scene there
- 49:44are two new
- 49:47she know about the daddy other night too
- 49:49much for just me
- 49:54to develop no when I told her over to a
- 49:58Rockies game
- 49:59[Music]
- 50:05we're downstairs this will create order
- 50:10about separation Robin does the nose
- 50:14but you know what I wanted in the coma
- 50:18separation that's really why
- 50:31I thought theirs
- 50:34sort of packing out a few things
- 50:43[Music]
- 50:47get ready dear
- 51:03how much they're going to talk to her
- 51:06again
- 51:10some longer
- 51:14those colors really pull off in shoes
- 51:18laying there
- 51:22this is hot
- 51:29so on average machine
- 51:33seasonally
- 51:47around America I prefer
- 51:59we can do
- 52:06boo
- 52:18food
- 52:31I did
- 52:45you know
- 52:48hmm
- 52:54for me one
- 53:01okay
- 53:10three back neither
- 53:15any of them
- 53:26I'm shaking
- 53:33my kids were glue their car
- 53:43just like client just
- 53:49like mystery
- 53:51she hurt my kids
- 53:59like I didn't sending to her
- 54:14and there
- 54:16Whole Foods
- 54:21she's back
- 54:25cover-up
- 54:34you
- 55:19and for fun
- 55:23you talk further
- 55:25not a monocle
- 55:29on that there's no fur in the back
- 55:51first location I went to
- 56:02well huh
- 56:04no pollution
- 56:08right there all play
- 56:11and you pick that time
- 56:19where will be fun
- 56:30know what to do I know I didn't know
- 56:33what to do another mother this maid said
- 56:38why would she hear my [ __ ] girls
- 56:47[Music]
- 56:48to prefer the initial thing are they
- 56:51under the ground
- 57:00mm
- 57:01[ __ ] there
- 57:05I mean I will if you want to I don't
- 57:07like what if we wanted you and your dad
- 57:13just drove by and you could just say
- 57:14right there we can help you just get
- 57:17them out of the cold you know take care
- 57:19for last time
- 57:33oh sure
- 57:40[Music]
- 57:41I know you came in today to do the right
- 57:43thing
- 57:47you don't have to come in okay man I
- 57:49know
- 58:15so speaking of it
- 58:19please don't think anything let's talk
- 58:22some okay
- 58:28are they all three out there first yes
- 58:35personal decision
- 58:40ever since I have one you saw
- 58:46so monitor I'm Phoenix right
- 58:52don't you think
- 58:55we were often
- 58:58so he feels sorry blue
- 59:05and just obliterated the same thing our
- 59:17you ever going to ballinger
- 59:21so puts it in back-end that's no with us
- 59:25our own laundry place is laying bed to
- 59:28sprawled out
- 59:35selling pet duster
- 59:37ha ha
- 59:41so where's your phone nothing
- 59:46program
- 59:48which one
- 59:50Trevor staggered Carson machine
- 1:00:08the author
- 1:00:13there's
- 1:00:16and the favors are gone
- 1:00:21and that I put my hands around my
- 1:00:25watchman and did that same thing
- 1:00:35fiction inside back at all
- 1:00:43the rage that had an adverse impact
- 1:00:55you know she really should
- 1:01:18Paige went
- 1:01:20and it's like forever long
- 1:01:25countless Sheen over
- 1:01:29and yeah
- 1:01:34and he can point
- 1:01:39at any point
- 1:01:41if I can
- 1:01:47thank you - what what do you say to this
- 1:01:51something similar
- 1:01:54probably not that tall a long winter
- 1:01:57account just had a sheet over across the
- 1:01:59hall well things he was thinking about
- 1:02:01saying like Bella and then a kid won't
- 1:02:04do that
- 1:02:07Karuna Chris
- 1:02:09reason
- 1:02:14make fun of it
- 1:02:18so it was funny
- 1:02:20mm
- 1:02:25[Music]
- 1:02:36mr. cover-up waste disposal
- 1:02:43because
- 1:02:53and sounds like a kind of I'm sorry lady
- 1:02:55companion
- 1:02:57I mean you know what happened stay for a
- 1:03:03reason
- 1:03:06Chris your goodness a lot of them well
- 1:03:10you stayed you wanted to talk it was
- 1:03:12going to be hard and still statement for
- 1:03:14the good manners
- 1:03:18every six hours and 11 minutes before
- 1:03:25we're going to do
- 1:03:28see
- 1:03:30great collapse in local kids then you
- 1:03:34don't know you don't know when you're
- 1:03:37good come out
- 1:03:48[Music]
- 1:03:56could you let the boy
- 1:04:05in the same
- 1:04:11and crazy over every this day every day
- 1:04:15[Music]
- 1:04:19when you came in with your life on top
- 1:04:22of right where you came in so you saw it
- 1:04:26in person there's a lot of it a lot of
- 1:04:28us didn't it there to talk every getting
- 1:04:34and you came in shoes right downtown is
- 1:04:37right there
- 1:04:39[Music]
- 1:04:40from to do
- 1:04:49to
- 1:04:52three translatetv
- 1:04:55artbook say two of the movies its
- 1:04:59technical bird with yes
- 1:05:07[Music]
- 1:05:10where did you put them up there that's
- 1:05:13really important
- 1:05:15[Music]
- 1:05:18please
- 1:05:23[Music]
- 1:05:34[Music]
- 1:05:43Talon so clearly ownership
- 1:05:47I don't know I know I didn't know love
- 1:05:53do oh so they're like watch it did this
- 1:05:59- did that quarterly do right or
- 1:06:04anything that I would do from that which
- 1:06:06is going to be instances inches the
- 1:06:10horrible thing you're in tough on what
- 1:06:15can you do right
- 1:06:18your body just going to take those birds
- 1:06:47so looking over done
- 1:07:03Oh No
- 1:07:07what's gonna happen we're going to help
- 1:07:10get out
- 1:07:13do you like look
- 1:07:15would you prefer them when your for your
- 1:07:17coat oh my god though no no
- 1:07:21[Music]
- 1:07:31well could come a good man they're going
- 1:07:33to see this really what the [ __ ] did you
- 1:07:34do grizzly one place like she's gonna do
- 1:07:38it
- 1:07:38well they weren't in your shoes they
- 1:07:40don't know I'm told they want living I
- 1:07:42know but still it will just go to those
- 1:07:51steps at a time
- 1:07:52Emma I have a kid I have anybody show
- 1:07:56you're out there let anybody know cowork
- 1:07:58okay I'm going to be rescued before
- 1:08:03their own opinions anyways once they
- 1:08:05figure everything out anyway we'll just
- 1:08:09take little steps tonight then how about
- 1:08:10that
- 1:08:16do you have to have any of them with you
- 1:08:18no no we'd prefer you can you and me and
- 1:08:21Tammy and Ronnie get in the car and just
- 1:08:23drive out there then we'll review this
- 1:08:26point but Cris I know they're gone but
- 1:08:30they're still your babies and you still
- 1:08:32do that and your book and you want
- 1:08:38someone else to find another hmm you
- 1:08:41don't promise you
- 1:08:42[Music]
- 1:09:04[Music]
- 1:09:14you'd give us a second to work and kind
- 1:09:16of get some signal range right you might
- 1:09:21gain a new
- 1:09:22[Music]
- 1:09:42this [ __ ] world
- 1:09:45[Music]
- 1:09:57probably don't even know people leave
- 1:09:58here no
- 1:10:03[Music]
- 1:10:08[Music]
- 1:10:22you
- 1:10:30you
- 1:10:42yes
- 1:10:44[Music]
- 1:10:50no no not tonight I really haven't much
- 1:10:57think you don't me to take you out to
- 1:10:59the lobby of a bathroom and then text
- 1:11:01your wife and stuff talk to them
- 1:11:06squash the press people around you why
- 1:11:11you are with you we're going to try to
- 1:11:16do our best to make sure that we you
- 1:11:19know we don't stand to gain anything by
- 1:11:21broadcasting that's not what law
- 1:11:23enforcement is ever really about so
- 1:11:25we're an entire best to handle that as
- 1:11:28discreet as possible but
- 1:11:30pretty good what they do too
- 1:11:33I'm not the little funky but enough
- 1:11:35around their leader already or already
- 1:11:36I've only been here two years
- 1:11:45we don't have other letters keep your
- 1:11:49phone
- 1:11:53very cool
- 1:12:00so if your affordable talk a little bit
- 1:12:02more
- 1:12:04I think we have a picture is it survey
- 1:12:07319 and we have a picture
- 1:12:11I'll walk you through that I'm sure you
- 1:12:13have a ton of questions for us about you
- 1:12:16know how your night months and weakens
- 1:12:17going to look so tan man she's telling
- 1:12:22him wanted to show them that picture
- 1:12:24yeah and then we're going to talk a
- 1:12:29little bit about how the rest of the
- 1:12:30night can go footage at the BRC surf
- 1:12:37return anything okay we're about
- 1:12:46how old is the speaker today most of the
- 1:13:08taking over the food
- 1:13:18[Music]
- 1:13:22prefer mr. Scalia
- 1:13:26but as freshmen okay where the girls at
- 1:13:30and I think so which one is stable
- 1:13:40are they in the tanks
- 1:13:43can somebody who doesn't know what
- 1:13:45they're doing audience on TV over 10 min
- 1:13:48take some mixture of oil and water
- 1:13:57during that she found out here weren't
- 1:14:00that from Chanel drafted
- 1:14:09respect
- 1:14:16or your blankets and toys and set go
- 1:14:20mokuba collaborations
- 1:14:24or did you shut down work put them
- 1:14:27right here but
- 1:14:32so how'd you do this out are we showing
- 1:14:35up under dirt how did you take that
- 1:14:38social
- 1:14:41it's like a workshop so still there
- 1:14:53Commission answers
- 1:14:57sure the north
- 1:15:02so we've got the bed with to learn more
- 1:15:05colors for bunker for doors
- 1:15:10and surely the black or gray or high
- 1:15:13blue
- 1:15:1820 time cards do you think from the Toma
- 1:15:22is back in the bed
- 1:15:26put them in the truck
- 1:15:45[Music]
- 1:15:49we're coming minutes hours
- 1:15:51[Music]
- 1:15:55when I like someone out of the house I
- 1:15:57like from when you've got her in the bed
- 1:16:00- when you put her in the trunk
- 1:16:02how long did that whole time was that
- 1:16:12so like when
- 1:16:14put sign in my truck from the bed to the
- 1:16:17truck yeah from your master bed to the
- 1:16:20truck yeah
- 1:16:25so you talk about covering it up or
- 1:16:27something no
- 1:16:36there anything else about anything out
- 1:16:38here that have stuff that you've left in
- 1:16:42certain spots or be sure they're
- 1:16:44blankets and toys aren't going to be in
- 1:16:46there as well not because it was
- 1:16:49the dish
- 1:16:54do me a favor and just write your name
- 1:16:57on the bottom so I know that way to make
- 1:17:01those marks
- 1:17:05I'm just gonna raise the denominator
- 1:17:12interesting eating and persecution
- 1:17:19where she went with your wife or any
- 1:17:21shorts or pants or anything just under
- 1:17:24one blue
- 1:17:29um
- 1:17:31okay and the girls to Gold River downs
- 1:17:35were
- 1:17:38go
- 1:17:41okay
- 1:17:46I think was that pink one with a like
- 1:17:49permanent man I think that was
- 1:17:54there is no corner believe on
- 1:17:59so it sounds like it feels like to me
- 1:18:01now we know pretty well how to go get
- 1:18:04them is there anything else we need to
- 1:18:05know
- 1:18:21about how to give him yeah it's um
- 1:18:25wanted to climb up to the top and
- 1:18:26unscrew something and then lower
- 1:18:28something down to get them they're
- 1:18:31really just a hatch to the top and
- 1:18:34they're like 22 of Tanks how far down
- 1:18:37are they that
- 1:18:40where the food
- 1:18:42thank
- 1:18:44what wasn't when you were there I don't
- 1:18:46know
- 1:18:46[Music]
- 1:18:49all right
- 1:18:52go out there I don't think so would you
- 1:18:56prefer not to I didn't know you needed
- 1:18:58help going
- 1:19:00I don't know I think once you got that
- 1:19:03picture we didn't really know how much
- 1:19:07about the location that the other police
- 1:19:10officers knew the sounds like they knew
- 1:19:12somehow right and right how to get to
- 1:19:15319 so and I think that's how they got
- 1:19:18that picture
- 1:19:25is your
- 1:19:28does your nanny cam do you have named
- 1:19:31cameryn it's a monitor a monitor as I
- 1:19:34did in the video one it's like it cycles
- 1:19:37back and forth between one telling you
- 1:19:39to run oh oh okay okay
- 1:19:42is there any chance of records now
- 1:19:47just wondering what do you think what do
- 1:19:51you think ultimately we've made sin and
- 1:19:53snap so I'm not bad fair and she knew
- 1:20:00she just didn't read a bit I would admit
- 1:20:02it
- 1:20:02yeah
- 1:20:07so we just started talking about I asked
- 1:20:09if there's any chance that the nanny cam
- 1:20:11could have recorded shenana doing what
- 1:20:14she did in the kind of we were just
- 1:20:17getting into you know what Chris thinks
- 1:20:20about why she said he's just and
- 1:20:24distressed from knowing about the other
- 1:20:28girl
- 1:20:28[Music]
- 1:20:32knowing but she didn't really know right
- 1:20:34I mean there are harsh but Suzuno it's
- 1:20:38just fun meet a minute
- 1:20:47can we talk about a couple tough things
- 1:20:50I think we need to get it out of the way
- 1:20:52and just really get it out just to make
- 1:20:55sure you have every chance to explain
- 1:20:58exactly what happened and we have every
- 1:21:00chance to ask questions so conversation
- 1:21:06happened you go downstairs she's still
- 1:21:10upstairs and then you see what I hear
- 1:21:14this commotion upstairs just like that
- 1:21:23Oh
- 1:21:32you
- 1:21:37go back up and just doctor again never
- 1:21:39go fast and go to the room our master
- 1:21:45bedroom she wasn't in there okay he went
- 1:21:48there first and why don't you go up
- 1:21:50again just to go out the doctor okay so
- 1:21:53it's not as though that annoys me to run
- 1:21:55out Peter stop all right I didn't open
- 1:21:57the register
- 1:22:01let's look at monitor goes on Bella and
- 1:22:06where is monitor where's the screen you
- 1:22:08look at is it up or downstairs upstairs
- 1:22:10okay she go upstairs look at the monitor
- 1:22:12everyone dress up
- 1:22:14Oh your master bedroom I'll get it all
- 1:22:16right side up take not Internet is still
- 1:22:18right there how bad you want to look at
- 1:22:19it and here's some Bella her covers have
- 1:22:24pulled back she was called out laying
- 1:22:26there
- 1:22:30then it cycled over to so they did three
- 1:22:33four five second like interval between
- 1:22:36illuminate when cycles from the room
- 1:22:40cycled over to CDs room
- 1:22:43that's what I saw on top for that's not
- 1:22:44right in
- 1:22:49so can we talk about again it's very
- 1:22:52very hard to talk about but it's good to
- 1:22:54make sure that we understand we don't
- 1:22:57want anything to be incorrect or
- 1:23:00inaccurate or or anything like that
- 1:23:03was your wife on top of CT what did that
- 1:23:08look like I mean was she straddling it
- 1:23:10and where were they but on the day and
- 1:23:15so your wife was on top as it I mean
- 1:23:17squishy loveliness that's that's when I
- 1:23:20was walking up from the back okay
- 1:23:22I see you saw me in the back yeah okay
- 1:23:24but she was doing this look I said look
- 1:23:26like it was like this yeah okay and then
- 1:23:28what'd she see face up face down off to
- 1:23:32the side she's only on our side okay
- 1:23:35that's not pulled her off okay she fell
- 1:23:39she the one touch of blue okay
- 1:23:41doubled at all she was limp and blue for
- 1:23:44them being in with left family
- 1:23:46okay it's like her body was it right you
- 1:23:49could have arm up and insurance bolts
- 1:23:51okay
- 1:23:53and then what happened I looked at her
- 1:23:56and I just on top of her
- 1:23:59you know how function and did the same
- 1:24:01thing okay to get to knock her down
- 1:24:04no she was already on the ground I was
- 1:24:07like I just pulled her off on the bed
- 1:24:09Oh kind of one move in okay so it's not
- 1:24:11as Oviatt I just hold on no like I wanna
- 1:24:15pull her down I did that I didn't know I
- 1:24:18lost it
- 1:24:19sure so she named Leslie monogrammed on
- 1:24:23the button and then yeah like she was on
- 1:24:26top of shoes I saw what was happening
- 1:24:28holder how long does the thing okay -
- 1:24:33it's all clean
- 1:24:37which is probably acquaintances or some
- 1:24:41kind of took for votes more
- 1:25:01so where was the list she was bold to
- 1:25:05talk
- 1:25:05to the top
- 1:25:10alternate downloads across ways I
- 1:25:12thought you liked those
- 1:25:20okay launch key room so then if this
- 1:25:27picture as you're standing in the
- 1:25:28doorway to go in with the sentence that
- 1:25:30work
- 1:25:34and then so were they closer to this
- 1:25:37side or this side she usually sits in
- 1:25:40the middle okay and so your weapons
- 1:25:43right on top of where you to see that
- 1:25:44and then did you pull her this way or
- 1:25:46that way or both were headless on the
- 1:25:49side right over here yeah on the left is
- 1:25:52looking at it okay did she put up a
- 1:25:54fight
- 1:25:55oh I lost it so much that it didn't feel
- 1:25:59like she did okay
- 1:26:00very pretty strong dude did she she
- 1:26:06yelling she screaming was she talking
- 1:26:08when she's scratching you who nothing I
- 1:26:12didn't
- 1:26:13I just felt such anger that nothing
- 1:26:18nothing I didn't feel anything
- 1:26:19Toria all right I think she did nothing
- 1:26:22nothing's on me
- 1:26:24was it quick was it slow did Sun ominous
- 1:26:30I like it was over priced fast okay felt
- 1:26:36layout is it possible or an expert never
- 1:26:43programmable and so out of all right
- 1:26:48once it a joke like this it's like a
- 1:26:51headlock can you put your hand out like
- 1:27:01and found
- 1:27:06and your wife you shall her with one
- 1:27:08hand to him
- 1:27:09I just coming from the back I could
- 1:27:11really like hell
- 1:27:17apologies on offer
- 1:27:20the monitors not like colors black white
- 1:27:24or the item is black and white okay
- 1:27:29one star to you he went up the territory
- 1:27:32to talk to shenanigans and then did you
- 1:27:38mean weird that she found the room or
- 1:27:39you left
- 1:27:41so I walked in look around saw the
- 1:27:44monitor and I saw Bella and so started
- 1:27:47cheating pretty fast and that's when I
- 1:27:49saw that
- 1:27:53did you have any inkling bit between the
- 1:27:56time that you finish the talk and the
- 1:27:58time that you found Shannon choking she
- 1:28:00she is no inkling she was gonna do it
- 1:28:02sir
- 1:28:02they Buffalo's get more than one no okay
- 1:28:10people people my family have always said
- 1:28:13she's unstable my friend that said she's
- 1:28:14on today would never like would have
- 1:28:16thought ten million years especially
- 1:28:20comfortable my family by mark
- 1:28:26people that have seen her around me
- 1:28:32my traffic tripper well it doesn't look
- 1:28:35good
- 1:28:36Ling a life looks right you're pretty
- 1:28:39bad
- 1:28:44is it possible that when we get these
- 1:28:46curls you know bail on cc engine and is
- 1:28:50it possible when we get them that we're
- 1:28:54going to see anything other than the
- 1:28:57cause of death in her hands okay and
- 1:29:02what I mean by that and I should be very
- 1:29:04clear is that it could some some of it's
- 1:29:09hard to believe you that your wife did
- 1:29:11it on the right you can imagine that
- 1:29:13alone okay so it's it possible that
- 1:29:16maybe she did one and then you got
- 1:29:22Shannon so you could dish sandwich she
- 1:29:24did to one of your daughters and then
- 1:29:26you had to just do it to the other month
- 1:29:27time okay
- 1:29:29so it's there that that's not no no no
- 1:29:32okay is it possible that during the
- 1:29:37other way what we might see your hand on
- 1:29:39the girl's neck no or them okay and you
- 1:29:42know the mean is when we find their
- 1:29:43little body
- 1:29:44what up we're going to see the diameter
- 1:29:46of someone's hand yeah and someone's
- 1:29:48fingers right so is that all possible or
- 1:29:51don't see yours all right
- 1:29:53I know it's hard and I know you're
- 1:29:56probably getting angry at my
- 1:29:57but we have to ask okay
- 1:30:06differently
- 1:30:10let my family down
- 1:30:15I'm a tad down mom sister that images
- 1:30:19friends coworkers
- 1:30:25every life
- 1:30:33no questions
- 1:30:35just get it all on the table when you
- 1:30:39see Cheyenne choking struggling to live
- 1:30:47and you'll get her office left to think
- 1:30:52about common in their village
- 1:30:57substitute iron they're blue in love and
- 1:30:59I've never seen something like that in
- 1:31:02my life
- 1:31:04and she just like play over like nothing
- 1:31:07was moving at all no gasp of breath
- 1:31:12totally just autumn so I'm doing the
- 1:31:15shower for a long time though I I know a
- 1:31:19lot of about psychology and as far as
- 1:31:23like what people are thinking most
- 1:31:25parents will never even want to fat
- 1:31:29another two kids dead
- 1:31:31even if the kids stiff blue in bed and
- 1:31:34stiff like the dental night they still
- 1:31:37call an ambulance to see if someone can
- 1:31:39revive their child and they when they
- 1:31:42get that ditch there they're like
- 1:31:44Ashford said all night like there's
- 1:31:47nothing we can do the person what are
- 1:31:49you why are you not doing - what are you
- 1:31:51talking about - baculum that's what
- 1:31:53we're used to so I just that's why I
- 1:31:55want you to explain to me like what was
- 1:31:57going on in your head pretty less salt
- 1:31:59for what she was what she did that just
- 1:32:04took over
- 1:32:13but you see that by that kind of I
- 1:32:14believe that occurs especially order
- 1:32:16torn from home parents would still try
- 1:32:18and call we were coming from
- 1:32:39I would hate for Shannon to give it bad
- 1:32:42rap if she doesn't have
- 1:32:46and another okay
- 1:32:51I can those bad stuff has happened well
- 1:32:53like will you two stop the bad stuff a
- 1:32:55map
- 1:32:58no truth
- 1:33:13I will make sure
- 1:33:17so you're good with the public knowing
- 1:33:18that she man killed her daughter
- 1:33:20I didn't thought her these girls are you
- 1:33:22okay with the public nomination yes yes
- 1:33:24because I did not have these girls
- 1:33:31Chris I'm not sure do
- 1:33:46thank you thank you
- 1:33:50like an earth
- 1:33:52you can shape them either
- 1:33:57I know that
- 1:34:01I know that my maken Tina
- 1:34:06nothing like why she would be there any
- 1:34:10English mixer
- 1:34:17you sure you didn't catch you know my
- 1:34:20god no
- 1:34:26press you can imagine
- 1:34:28that
- 1:34:31we're pretty cynical in our jobs right
- 1:34:33and tonight we've had to talk a lot
- 1:34:36about a lot of things and
- 1:34:41don't get mad but what it looks like is
- 1:34:43that you found a new life and the only
- 1:34:48way to get that new life was to get rid
- 1:34:49of your old life and I think that you
- 1:34:52killed these girls before their mom came
- 1:34:55home and then kills him now
- 1:34:59that's what we're kind of left that's
- 1:35:01what we have to believe because it just
- 1:35:03doesn't make sense I mean to her point
- 1:35:05if I walked in and my kid was
- 1:35:08decapitated I call an ambulance right
- 1:35:11snowing there's no hope it just it just
- 1:35:14doesn't make sense it just doesn't add
- 1:35:16up
- 1:35:16so either you're this monster so I just
- 1:35:21want this young hot girlfriend so I'm
- 1:35:23going to kill everyone and hope it works
- 1:35:25out or something so I think we're very
- 1:35:29very close to the truth but not like
- 1:35:32their guesses
- 1:35:36so if you're not that monster I'm not a
- 1:35:39monster
- 1:35:40I didn't kill my babies okay
- 1:35:51so
- 1:35:51[Music]
- 1:35:53tell us what actually happened I told
- 1:35:56you what I know but you know we're
- 1:35:58getting later into the day we've done so
- 1:36:00few times and we we talk then we show
- 1:36:05you a little bit of what we're working
- 1:36:05with some evidence and facts that we
- 1:36:07know and we kind of get our way to the
- 1:36:09truth so so sir okay everything
- 1:36:12absolutely sure what's going to happen
- 1:36:16when their cause of death comes back to
- 1:36:18you or the girls not going to okay you
- 1:36:22should I'm a hundred percent positive
- 1:36:23it's not going to come back to me
- 1:36:26who's gonna come back to she-devil on
- 1:36:29top of Cece okay
- 1:36:32[Music]
- 1:36:36I just want the truth truth and what
- 1:36:39about Bella Bella was laid out sprawl on
- 1:36:42her bed okay
- 1:36:43that's off-topic few star brain in there
- 1:36:50and what happens when a corner looks and
- 1:36:53says she's your fingerprints on her neck
- 1:36:55not going to be my finger
- 1:36:59was it going to be going to be Shanaya
- 1:37:02sure what we don't know about Bella
- 1:37:04right but we don't know about fellas
- 1:37:06it should I teach now Papa Brad that's
- 1:37:10the commotion I heard upstairs yeah I'm
- 1:37:12assuming okay
- 1:37:17why take their bodies out of the house
- 1:37:20and barium scared I didn't know what
- 1:37:24else to do okay
- 1:37:25nothing nothing nothing was gonna I
- 1:37:29didn't know what to do yeah
- 1:37:32I honestly didn't know what to do scared
- 1:37:35of what
- 1:37:36scared of what everything was gonna look
- 1:37:38like there's my two babies were gone and
- 1:37:41I just did that to my wife and I was the
- 1:37:44only one on that what do you expect to
- 1:37:46happen yeah it did look bad right Hey
- 1:37:49look I mean this was a nightmare yeah
- 1:37:59problems with you publish it in at the
- 1:38:04end of the day make sure a freaking long
- 1:38:06line I was a pretty good time long
- 1:38:13no person until your own person
- 1:38:25she would hate for
- 1:38:29how are you can
- 1:38:30we felt like she fell into life like I
- 1:38:37mean if you're not being truthful about
- 1:38:40who took their life like touch on them
- 1:38:44till you don't want to do that to them
- 1:38:47about doing that though
- 1:38:52you see I'm not doing much
- 1:39:03and do you think you work again if your
- 1:39:05addiction analyst good mom and you guys
- 1:39:08we're doing everything you could
- 1:39:09possibly do for those girls look out why
- 1:39:15didn't you push me and the tanks
- 1:39:26that's the difference how far down is
- 1:39:30she
- 1:39:37to feeling
- 1:39:39I wonder if you just picked up
- 1:39:44communities
- 1:39:49[Music]
- 1:39:51does anyone ever let go of the platter
- 1:39:54like look in tanks so how are you going
- 1:39:59to avoid that or that you that does that
- 1:40:01anybody that knows the location how
- 1:40:05often if I've done that those tanks her
- 1:40:07to check
- 1:40:12and just there
- 1:40:14again enough oil
- 1:40:17totally so do you want someone to find
- 1:40:20them no else
- 1:40:23but it that's the location I was going
- 1:40:26out to that morning anyone said that I
- 1:40:29didn't want us to do - you weren't
- 1:40:33thinking that far ahead
- 1:40:48yesterday when you were talking
- 1:40:52again this is before we kind of got to
- 1:40:54this moment today you mentioned that
- 1:40:58we're talking [ __ ] I don't know where
- 1:41:00they are I don't know where they are and
- 1:41:02then you said something
- 1:41:03so whatever happened to active pure evil
- 1:41:06what did that mean
- 1:41:14- evil that I solve Papa - and she was
- 1:41:17on top of CC
- 1:41:20and I thought you will spread it now
- 1:41:32so
- 1:41:34one other thing that doesn't make sense
- 1:41:36to me
- 1:41:38is well
- 1:41:46can you mock me here again
- 1:41:49we walked in what did she look like
- 1:41:52wasn't she at Chanel look like all your
- 1:41:54cells are back it was at the same church
- 1:41:57that you buried her in same underwear
- 1:41:59and then was she wearing pajamas she dad
- 1:42:04yeah oh she sits in her memory okay and
- 1:42:08nobody at special or something like that
- 1:42:10so then he grabbed her just adds his
- 1:42:14that's how she gets to the director
- 1:42:16actually gets to the same
- 1:42:20so which may never go to bed that rock
- 1:42:27but no no like when she got home doesn't
- 1:42:31mean that happened where she only got in
- 1:42:32a bed and then you walk around before
- 1:42:34like it's all about true because it
- 1:42:36looks like there's some purchase of some
- 1:42:38haircare products
- 1:42:39I like 2:30 in the morning you know
- 1:42:43about that
- 1:42:44rose and her credit card live tonight
- 1:42:51he said you don't really need a credit
- 1:42:53card show my credit cards no would you
- 1:42:56have bought hair care products at 2:30
- 1:42:58in the morning
- 1:42:59or did she get mad you - there's some
- 1:43:05money when you should come think of that
- 1:43:08part of that
- 1:43:12source haircare products in the
- 1:43:13Caribbean I'd some of my mine without my
- 1:43:18magical
- 1:43:20something that came out is there any
- 1:43:23reason she would have a black eye yeah
- 1:43:27not from a slap or a puncher nothing
- 1:43:30like that never okay punch or slap
- 1:43:33better
- 1:43:33is there any reason she would have a
- 1:43:35stab mark on her body
- 1:43:37and no other reason for death coroner's
- 1:43:42not going to find rat poison in her
- 1:43:43stomach
- 1:43:47the only way that she died she was
- 1:43:49living breathing wasn't living breathing
- 1:43:51after your hands on it
- 1:44:08what were you talking to Nikki about
- 1:44:11before your wife get home
- 1:44:16of course you have them for like several
- 1:44:19hours
- 1:44:22I tell them we talk a lot
- 1:44:25conversations random conversations
- 1:44:30do you think he know about a new fish
- 1:44:34seriously
- 1:44:36I said no way I mean she knows like with
- 1:44:39from the news and everything like that
- 1:44:42anything else you can share for anything
- 1:44:45just you know your wife was pregnant
- 1:44:50I told her that she did not the time
- 1:44:56Oh care to
- 1:45:00so like you know
- 1:45:04right she wouldn't even like God date
- 1:45:06with me and she knew that so's teach you
- 1:45:11know you were married with kids
- 1:45:12yes okay but just not pregnant
- 1:45:17that's always that you know like we were
- 1:45:20that we're actively tried before we met
- 1:45:23Oh try to bring it okay
- 1:45:28she knew that you can imagine that when
- 1:45:33we go talk to people going forward
- 1:45:35everyone's going to try to distance
- 1:45:37themselves from any of this yes and so
- 1:45:40if what's going to happen when Nikki
- 1:45:42says no because our plan to kill
- 1:45:44everyone and run out together
- 1:45:50we're doctor canceling we have to
- 1:45:57so can we get ahead of that for you can
- 1:46:00we get all that out right now I mean so
- 1:46:03pretty sure she's not going to say well
- 1:46:05I kind of knew he was going to kill him
- 1:46:06no she's not going to say no okay
- 1:46:08and she's not going to say boy we were
- 1:46:11making plans about buying a house or an
- 1:46:13apartment she say that no really he's
- 1:46:16like once I have my own place like we
- 1:46:19could really hang out more okay so I'm
- 1:46:22does a breeze and after that dust
- 1:46:23settled then you have availability to go
- 1:46:26see Nikki you guys had talks like that -
- 1:46:29he likes see general
- 1:46:36please hop her name out there in this
- 1:46:38though she's standard enough in her life
- 1:46:44just like that we we never tried to put
- 1:46:46out Bob the Snowy Egrets that they got
- 1:46:49even have an affair they would they
- 1:46:50would drag her food but I don't want
- 1:46:53that we're certainly not gonna try to
- 1:46:55get it wonderful or than you [ __ ] I
- 1:47:00don't this press contours I've never
- 1:47:03been
- 1:47:09so what do you think about everything
- 1:47:10now
- 1:47:17he felt sorry for you
- 1:47:20or so I would not loss of control Popish
- 1:47:26Mantid and then did that
- 1:47:33what yes
- 1:48:02so after we have to really get their
- 1:48:04bodies or may have a lot more questions
- 1:48:07think you're going to be different then
- 1:48:09but if you're willing you'd love to talk
- 1:48:12to me then too
- 1:48:26it's really good to do Chris really good
- 1:48:29I think you have about 24 hours of just
- 1:48:33a hellish nightmare thrust upon you and
- 1:48:35you know you certainly knew what you did
- 1:48:37but I think it's galoshes to make it
- 1:48:40better today so I left you last night
- 1:48:44apartheid
- 1:48:50okay buddy right here for a reason
- 1:48:53there's a reason why I didn't that I
- 1:48:56came in because it's reason why I come
- 1:49:01in with a law degree this is like kind
- 1:49:03of this Scott
- 1:49:23you know eventually they're gonna find
- 1:49:25[Music]
- 1:49:28all new assistant said that he'll wait
- 1:49:32for that
- 1:49:33[Music]
- 1:49:37and then one then what does it look like
- 1:49:39it was
- 1:49:50courage
- 1:49:56there's many people that say that you're
- 1:49:58an amazing guy and you would never do
- 1:50:00anything bad
- 1:50:01has never lost your temper and you know
- 1:50:03all those people that say that about you
- 1:50:06there's just as many that okay that
- 1:50:09emotion and so we really struggle with
- 1:50:14that for a while I'm struggling with
- 1:50:17that right now
- 1:50:17I know we were hello mom and you're
- 1:50:22right it would
- 1:50:26how do we prove best at Sunanda tea
- 1:50:33and soon
- 1:50:35so I think we're in chief very much of
- 1:50:41it but they're going to be Hinrich like
- 1:50:46Mark said they're getting shouldn't
- 1:50:49Mitch let her know and bail out a little
- 1:50:52bit
- 1:50:53she she's the chief on top of her in her
- 1:50:55head since I'd never pelant up her son
- 1:50:58Gio up camera and she won't
- 1:51:07why were there sheets in the trash in
- 1:51:10the kitchen because of those are the
- 1:51:13same ones out there and no I did
- 1:51:17eventually they're gonna find you man
- 1:51:20yes sir you still wrapped in a sheet and
- 1:51:24come in here it was just a house aside
- 1:51:28nerve maybe the wind took it so it's
- 1:51:31right here that oh it was your switch to
- 1:51:33the Sun like you didn't even try and
- 1:51:35hide that but I also scared I didn't
- 1:51:38know what to do
- 1:51:39did someone come upon you or something
- 1:51:42no oh yeah well you're afraid you're in
- 1:51:45starts going out I know they're on their
- 1:51:48way out there but I mean a long way out
- 1:51:51there for now well before I forget and
- 1:51:55you avoid Victorian a lot of electronics
- 1:51:57of your house the Crowder's and that
- 1:51:59kind of stuff um like that's not going
- 1:52:02to show that she was using her phone
- 1:52:04like at a time
- 1:52:05said she was strangling the kids or
- 1:52:09something right
- 1:52:10okay do you what is the password to like
- 1:52:13all the electronics here I know there
- 1:52:15was an iPad iPad should be too very
- 1:52:17close
- 1:52:21um Sarah I'm not one for the Apple watch
- 1:52:25it to turn which is very cloud
- 1:52:30and up for yours too fifth grade seven
- 1:52:38some title concerns for three squared 7
- 1:52:44other stuff you haven't ears are out
- 1:52:46early their password 496 and the router
- 1:52:51and spell upon sh i NY CH state I are
- 1:52:57six numbers
- 1:53:00the Challenger
- 1:53:03and then one else's which is our a
- 1:53:06desktop computer yeah that one yes if it
- 1:53:09has a password of me four to eight four
- 1:53:13nine one five capital s lowercase W
- 1:53:21we were about anything else in the house
- 1:53:25cars electronics pearl cabbage
- 1:53:28well the patio maybe we'll set the other
- 1:53:30one does a kid stuff but there's like or
- 1:53:32dislike about fires or not okay and here
- 1:53:36you have an iPhone what that your
- 1:53:39personal it is iPhone latest seven plus
- 1:53:43there's what's attachment to that we
- 1:53:46create said and we make it work fun Sam
- 1:53:53another sign here
- 1:53:56then Irish man had a iPhone right with a
- 1:54:00filter password that change to 0 1 3 1
- 1:54:07oh that password the due date the next
- 1:54:12day Nikki told me that one nickel
- 1:54:20yeah we only got Hitler very computers
- 1:54:23so no other like times what about the
- 1:54:26echo does it have a password though huh
- 1:54:31you say Alexa special
- 1:54:34Tyler and then echo show so ya gonna
- 1:54:38love ya the products : echo
- 1:54:40okay any other one I go
- 1:54:51where do you guys think chasin USA which
- 1:54:55one was the you went out to dinner with
- 1:54:58Nikki what is let's chase and USAA is
- 1:55:02that mortgages that bank that uh uh
- 1:55:05chases our mortgage lender okay we have
- 1:55:10checking to them to find us
- 1:55:17what do you guys he's USAA for now which
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- 1:55:27accounts that you had personally beyond
- 1:55:30all of this
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- 1:56:13or did you have to talk to them Robo
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- 1:56:41it's just any ever if most professor do
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- 1:57:03really difference okay
- 1:57:04she's kept it
- 1:57:10Tiffany other questions for us
- 1:57:13is leather yes of course we need to do
- 1:57:17one thing now that we know what we know
- 1:57:21we're going to need to check that you
- 1:57:24don't have any weapons on your knees
- 1:57:25like that do you them okay we'll do that
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- 1:57:33with you and then we'll come right back
- 1:57:35here we'll make a decision about adverse
- 1:57:37then I goes all right show that side
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