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1:17all right everyone we are again waiting
1:20for Ben Shapiro to start speaking there
1:23on the Berkeley campus and while we wait
1:25I figure I'll give you son Ben Shapiro
1:27fast for those of you who don't know
1:29that much about him so Ben Sapiro is a
1:31native of Los Santos he's only 33 years
1:33old and he was American conservative
1:35political commentary columnist author
1:38and of course a lawyer he graduated from
1:41UCLA and then attended Harvard Law
1:44School graduated in 2007 he actually
1:46skipped two grades interestingly enough
1:49and post-war graduating from high school
1:52at the age of 16 he currently runs an
1:55independent legal consultation firm in
1:58Los Angeles he has written several books
2:00and his family is Jewish partially from
2:03Russia now for those of you wondering
2:05which great she's good well he skipped
2:07two grades I was third grade and ninth
2:09grade so those are just some then
2:12Shapiro facts for you he obviously also
2:15has ties to Breitbart and the Daily wire
2:17some more information as far as his
2:20writing career is concerned while he was
2:23a student at UCLA ven Shapiro became the
2:26youngest nationally syndicated
2:28the United States at the age of
2:31seventeen entrancingly enough he had to
2:33require his parents to sign the contract
2:35for him to do that by the age of 21 he'd
2:38written two books and
2:42in 2012 he became editor at large of
2:46Breitbart news even resigned from his
2:52position of at Breitbart last year March
2:562016 he also founded the Daily wire in
2:59September of 2015 he is an
3:01editor-in-chief as well as a host of his
3:03political online podcast the Ben Shapiro
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9:14good evening dear guests let me begin by
9:20saying I am the Vice Chancellor of
9:21finance here at Berkeley and we welcome
9:23you UC Berkeley we respect and value the
9:33action and intention of a public protest
9:36as intrinsic to the values of an
9:39environment of learning and higher
9:41education tonight speech and discussion
9:44was brought to us by the students of UC
9:48Berkeley for the engagement and
9:50advancement of a larger student body of
9:53UC Berkeley
10:00to those of you who engaged in your
10:03right to protest the acetate vs.
10:05honesty's selleth students and the rest
10:08of the audience by allowing this event
10:10to continue just as respect your right
10:13to be heard as you do have it you CCD
10:16and the campus will be making the
10:18decisions about how disruptions is this
10:21event will be addressed
10:22sometimes when the seekers may make this
10:25statement this is about how the campus
10:26will handle disruptions those statements
10:29have not been approved by the campus and
10:32it may not be accurate
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10:53ladies and gentlemen my name is Bradley
10:55Devlin secretary of the Berklee College
10:57of public dance
11:03it is a pleasure to welcome you to Ben
11:06Shapiro Berkeley say no to campus
11:09Sudbury
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11:15yes
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11:54Fred Allen the difference oscillations
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12:54we ask you to respect the students of
12:57the University of California Berkeley
12:58and the rest of the audience
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13:27now it is my pleasure
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14:27thank you
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14:32thank you so much
14:35I only wish the administration
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15:31thanks to the police
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16:31so I have a few other thank-yous I want
16:33to say thank you to see more on put up
16:35at that sign across the way it says we
16:38say no to your white supremacist
16:39[ __ ] well I say thank you because I
16:42also say knows whose white supremacist
16:44[ __ ]
16:47and if you stick around long enough in
16:49this seat you will hear me do exactly
16:51that the problem is I also say no it's
16:53your identity politics culture thanks to
17:00aunt Eva and these supposed anti-fascist
17:02forgave for exposing what the radical
17:04left truly is all of America is watching
17:06because you guys are so stupid it's
17:09horrifying
17:10I am grateful and you can all go to hell
17:12you're pathetic lying stupid jackasses
17:21the same goes for the mayor of the city
17:23who suggest as an Antipa occasionally to
17:25give him free rein over the city in the
17:27end and the Conservatives should go home
17:29because we wouldn't want to provoke
17:30violence I do want to actually thank
17:32administration for making the effort to
17:34put on this is that tonight there were a
17:36lot of obstacles they'll talk about the
17:37obstacles a little bit but they did
17:39attempt to make the effort and they did
17:40unshackle the police to actually protect
17:43this so thank you to the administration
17:44for doing them for this event and that
17:55it's not to to me I mean I'm not the one
17:56out threatening to break windows it's
17:57not due to you you're here listening
17:58it's due to the antifa hard left morons
18:01are out there breaking windows and I do
18:03want to say one thing which is that in a
18:05city has left is Berkeley if you're
18:07gonna blame me for the six hundred
18:08thousand dollars in spending on security
18:09you're Athenians think of all the jobs
18:12that just creating it now this lecture
18:17is titled say no to campus Sudbury
18:19that's the title of the lecture because
18:20of Antipa and the wave of violence that
18:22has engulfed this campus since its
18:24earlier this year I spoke here last year
18:25some you may remember I was here last
18:27year I spoken like February 2016 here
18:31packed house I have two security guards
18:33and that was it no violence is no
18:35nothing and now we're
18:37well into six figures so that I can say
18:40many of the same things it's utterly
18:43absurd it's utterly absurd but things
18:46have changed well why have they changed
18:48it's because there's no movement arising
18:50of all over the country from Sacramento
18:51to Berkeley to Dallas to Charlottesville
18:53and that movement says that speech is
18:55violence and must be treated as such
18:58this is grooves like refusing ashes
19:00double gets to be all right later
19:01this is groups like refused a schism
19:03which is professes to promote protests
19:05but it's actually said it won't rule out
19:06working with groups like NCBI here is
19:09it's posted earlier about me is not
19:22because these hands this is no [ __ ] if
19:24you're the problem is not chemistry the
19:26problem is fascist intellectual bubbler
19:28in the service of the Trump pense
19:30fascist regime well to believe this you
19:34have to have your head so far up your
19:35ass you can actually see your colon
19:37firsthand let's define a few terms first
19:40of all just intellectually what exactly
19:44is - what was the term by people who
19:46have never read a book is the phenomenon
19:50whereby people believe but they have the
19:53capacity to RAM their beliefs down your
19:54throat at the point to the gun or say
19:57the point to the baton or by throwing
19:59Molotov cocktails
20:00that's what fascism truly especially is
20:03even more of a tactic than it is an
20:04ideology it's sort of vague in terms of
20:05ideology you've had any bar on the left
20:07for fascist and people like Stalin and
20:09then you've had people who are on
20:10European right like Hitler who's fascist
20:12who's actually closer to the traditional
20:15American weapon it would be to their
20:17traditional American
20:18but I've been spending my entire careers
20:20dancing against - this is the idea of an
20:22overreaching government that uses the
20:24power of the gun in order to compel
20:25people to do what they want and teach by
20:28the statutes I am NOT a fascist and as
20:31far as the fascist regime first of all
20:37look at the protests outside where it's
20:40orange people are shutting it down right
20:42he's nowhere to be found this idea that
20:44we're living in a batch mr. country
20:45we're actually living under a relatively
20:46ineffectual relatively ineffective
20:48administration if anything but the idea
20:50that we're living in some sort of
20:51fascist dystopia is utterly absurd as
20:55far as the idea that you know I'm a
20:57white supremacist in service to Trump
20:59ends couple problems there one as far as
21:01these services Trump ends again for
21:05Trump or Hillary either of them actually
21:09so this idea that I am somehow a servant
21:12of Trump is absurd and requires you to
21:14be functionally illiterate as far as the
21:16idea of a white supremacist you see the
21:17thing on the top of my head right it's
21:20funny how all the yarmulke in white
21:22supremacists aren't that fond of it
21:24which is why I was reporting to the
21:26anti-defamation league the number one
21:27recipient of white supremacist
21:30anti-semitism on the internet among
21:32journalists in 2016 but no I'm a white
21:34supremacist named because ooh the way
21:36the Left borders right if you don't
21:37agree with them everyone's a white
21:38supremacist you're not see not you
21:39should be punched and therefore it's
21:41totally fine to stand outside and try to
21:43shut down event if you can get away with
21:45it they're not getting away with it
21:46tonight the police is the nail out to
21:48actually do their
21:53so what is their specific objection to
21:55me well according to this masterfully
21:57done poster it says Shapiro is coming to
21:59campus to spread batches of used dressed
22:02up in slick-talking intellectuals are I
22:04do like this slick-talking this is
22:08harmful exclamation point he along with
22:10batches of many stripes have targeted
22:12Berkeley because reversing these radical
22:14history would be a major advantage for
22:16the consolidation of fascism on campuses
22:18everywhere and throughout society the
22:21reason I'm here is a lot the reasons
22:22that I am here is because - Lisa does
22:25not own this university because there
22:27are students who do want to hear
22:29different views who don't want to be
22:31told that they didn't only hear one of
22:33you who don't believe that the First
22:35Amendment should die under the jackfruit
22:37and Birkenstocks of a bunch of anarchist
22:39communist pieces of garbage
22:47but I don't just want to talk about the
22:49people who actually get violent because
22:50I think it's in the civil society this
22:52is one thing we should all agree on and
22:53I've been pleased to see that even
22:54people like Nancy Pelosi have condemned
22:56auntie Nancy Pelosi system I disagree
22:59upon literally never eat if she would as
23:00possible to disagree on including the
23:03proper use of Botox but she and I agree
23:05on this well agree that violence should
23:08be out of balance and if you're on the
23:09left and you don't agree with that let
23:11me suggest to you that you don't belong
23:12living in a civilized society because
23:14civilized society is based on the
23:16premise that the government has a
23:17monopoly on the legitimate use of sports
23:19max payable put it and the idea that
23:20you're supposed to violate that if you
23:22don't like what I'm saying makes you so
23:23uncivilized barbarian okay but it's not
23:25just that I want to talk about okay I
23:26want to talk about an ideology that goes
23:28a little bit deeper than that and
23:29something to go anywhere without an
23:32ideology that runs broader than entities
23:34without a group of people willing to
23:36look the other way well what is the view
23:39that undergirds and what's the what's
23:41the view be Thunderbirds D hard left as
23:43many approve celebrate an see for we're
23:45doing so until it became politically
23:46unpalatable to do so
23:48it's his view that America is a terrible
23:50horrible no good very bad place right
23:52now the truth is in America is an
23:54incredible place it's the greatest place
23:56in the history of the world it is the
23:57freest most prosperous country most
23:59powerin country in the history of planet
24:01Earth
24:03this country is an incredible place full
24:05of opportunity nobody by and large cares
24:07enough about you to stop you from
24:09achieving your dreams that includes you
24:11people who are shouting out there in the
24:13audience
24:14okay no one cares about you get over
24:17yourselves I don't care about you no one
24:19cares about you no one's trying to stop
24:21you because you're irrelevant to me I
24:23have a wife and two children I care
24:24about them and I don't care about you
24:26you don't mean anything to me except for
24:30that kind of city loves me I love that
24:31thank you but everybody else okay that
24:36means in a free country if you fail it
24:38is probably your own fault if it is
24:39somebody else's fault if somebody is
24:42actually trying to throw obstacles in
24:44front of you in a way that is unjust and
24:46bigoted point out the specific instance
24:48so we can evolve side with you we've all
24:51want to be on the same side we all want
24:53to help out when somebody is a racist is
24:55trying to stop you all want to sound off
24:57and stop that to the idea however that
25:00America as a whole owns your failure
25:02when you can't point to specific
25:03problems does not walk it is you
25:06shifting about that it's a waste of time
25:09and energies lending your failures on
25:10the system unless he's got some evidence
25:12but unfortunately on college campuses
25:14and from web more broadly there's been
25:16this notion that America is bad and the
25:18reason he failed is because America has
25:20historically been a very bad right this
25:22is the identity politics is allowed
25:23because America is bad in that it
25:26targets America target sees we have an
25:28entire hierarchy of intersectionality
25:30that's been built by the left to tell
25:32you whether your reviews are legitimate
25:33or not we the more victimized drive the
25:35more legitimate your views so something
25:38like the people whose views are most
25:40valuable and
25:40in those six months is very topper
25:42people where LGBT and then you get black
25:44people and then you get women and then
25:46you get this down a feeding and then you
25:47get Native Americans and then and then
25:49it's to choose maybe by Masons maybe
25:51Jews been a schism very very bottom you
25:54get straight white males right those are
25:55the people who have nothing to say about
25:57anything because obviously they're the
25:59beneficiaries of this is white privilege
26:01system now the logics of
26:03intersectionality because the value of
26:06your opinion lies in your identity your
26:09group identity the idea is that if I
26:12attack your ideas if I say that you have
26:14bad ideas what I'm really doing is just
26:16asking you personally I'm really
26:18attacking your identity I'm addressing
26:20you you might look quite counseling
26:22right this is the philosophy of
26:24microaggressions my words are violence
26:27even turn microaggressions suggest that
26:29it is an aggression against red
26:30microaggressions I'm addressing you it's
26:32enacted violence as NYU social
26:34psychologist Jonathan heightened said
26:35microaggressions are small actions as
26:37the word choices that's the mother faces
26:39have no malicious intent but that are
26:41thought of is its kind of violence is on
26:42the west the thing is you don't actually
26:44have to intend to abandon you want to
26:46make progress they just have to deal
26:48offended and the thing is that
26:50microaggressions are actual violence
26:51this is why you see the the jolts
26:53outside shouting with speeches violence
26:55because they think that I'm actually
26:56doing them violence when they don't hear
26:58me right with me but if they would hear
27:00me then presumably I'll be doing them
27:02violence and they would mean counseling
27:03and interact with violence it's because
27:05it's in response and unfortunately this
27:07university engage is precise to the
27:09business sort of damaging entities at
27:10the same time they're willing to allow
27:12the police to finances but they're
27:13fostering an attitude that says that
27:15certain types of speech are violence
27:17which is the gas in the tank from groups
27:19like Antigua it's the gas in the tank
27:21for the hard work now before my arrival
27:24the university obviously put in place
27:25all sorts of security measures to stop
27:27people from getting back which is great
27:28but they also put out a letter and the
27:31literature
27:32and here's what it says it says that I
27:35was a threat because they were going to
27:37offer coca support and counseling
27:38services for students staff and faculty
27:41we are deeply concerned about the impact
27:44some speakers made head-on individual
27:46sense of safety belonging
27:48no one should be made to feel threatened
27:51or harassed simply because of who they
27:52are or what they believe for that reason
27:58the following support services are being
28:00offered and encouraged and they offer
28:02employees support services as a student
28:04support services
28:05you see I'm asking your identity we
28:08disagree about politics and you may
28:09require councils by the way just side
28:11note if you require counseling because
28:12of this speech let me suggest to you
28:14that was a mistake for you to have
28:16forgone psychiatric treatment long ago I
28:20know I'm super scary I know look
28:24everyone knows the truth is I think
28:31you're big boys and girls you can
28:32probably handle it
28:33I assume you're not a bunch of weaklings
28:34in panties and snowflakes that may not
28:36be a fair assumption but I will assume
28:37it for the sake of this argument I
28:39assume you can handle disagreement if in
28:42fact you cannot handle this agreement
28:43you are making your life part and you're
28:45making your life worse and you're making
28:46the country worse you're driving
28:48political polarization by failing to
28:50engage on a level of discussion as you
28:53know we're going to do Q&A after this
28:54and I love taking questions my paper
28:56today which is you disagree with me you
28:58raise your hand you go to the front of
28:59the line because the discussion makes
29:01this country better
29:01but you feeling insulted and then
29:04whining about it and then suggesting
29:08that you're a victim without evidence
29:10and that I have victimized you because I
29:11won't accept your victimhood
29:12this makes the country a worse place so
29:15I want to go briefly through a couple of
29:16the intersectional hire even feel
29:18they're victims in there
29:19Seiden explain why you are not infected
29:21by aids take control of your own life
29:23and become an adult so let's start with
29:26the idea that poor people in America are
29:29victimized and this is sort of the
29:31Bernie Sanders case and come and
29:32apologize about evil byzantium escape
29:34communism our anarchism would be a
29:36better solution than say a free and
29:38civil society that's raised tap the
29:39world not about their poverty income
29:42inequality is not big problem
29:43nobody rich is making you poor Bill
29:46Gates does not make you poor providing a
29:49product that is your fault the upper
30:09mobility
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30:34we all are
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32:27but what about racism 71% to support
32:30families whose children are on there the
32:32poverty rate among non married white
32:34families was 26 percent diseases that
32:37seen here at the poverty rate among the
32:39black married couples was seven percent
32:41but what happened to racism why weren't
32:43those black married couples toward this
32:45is white is the color it has with life
32:48decisions and we can talk about the
32:53basic rule is the police are not going
32:58around rusty black people for the
33:01fundamental which is why the number of
33:04rewards
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33:51women are significant women make 8% more
34:03money than men do in their peer group
34:06that wage gap is growing not shrinking
34:08at college 255 persistence women
34:11encountered women it is getting larger
34:1258% of all branches and periods go to
34:15women the majority of voters are women
34:18if you've ever living in a place where
34:20women are vastly mixed by I really like
34:22to see that place and as far as this
34:24idea that there's a rape epidemic going
34:26on on campus every rape as I have said a
34:28thousand times it's every rape should be
34:29dealt with by the prosecution of the
34:31rapists ending with their jailing
34:33castration or death okay that's how I
34:35feel about rape
34:39this nonsense statistic that's been
34:41presented at one-in-five limit on
34:43college campuses being raped it's just
34:44not true it's just not true the actual
34:46statistic according to the Department of
34:47Justice is something like one in every
34:4858 obviously far too high but not one in
34:51five if we were one in five by the way
34:53if you're a woman at this campus you
34:54should go to your parents and ask them
34:56what kind of nuts they are to send you
34:57in a war zone where you're likely to be
34:58raped okay how about the idea that gays
35:04and lesbians are really living under the
35:06boot of American society well in terms
35:07of income they certainly aren't okay
35:09it's certainly not in terms of income
35:11women and lesbian couples make far more
35:12money than women in straight couples do
35:14men and gay couples make slightly less
35:16than men in straight couples but same
35:17sex couples with both partners in the
35:19labor force make eight thousand dollars
35:21more per year than straight couples and
35:22they are typically higher educated okay
35:24so that talks about the identity
35:25politics this intersectional hierarchy
35:27of the left but there's another group
35:28that engages the night density politics
35:30that I want to talk about now and it's
35:31the battle between the identity politics
35:33is the left and the identity politics of
35:35the so-called all right that is really
35:36making the country a significantly worse
35:38place and it needs to stop now because
35:40it is utter and complete horrible
35:41[ __ ] the first thing to know this
35:48notion that the all right is actually
35:49concerned as nonsense let me define what
35:51I mean by alright because not everybody
35:52who likes peppy means or harambe means
35:54is a member of the alright okay not
35:56everybody that the left says is alright
35:58is actually all right I mean the left
35:59calls me alright which is patently
36:00insane
36:01I mean you legitimately have to have a
36:03screw loose to call me alright I spend
36:06half my career attacking the organ
36:07okay what is the all right to the
36:09alt-right are a group of people who
36:10believe that ideology and ethnicity are
36:12inextricably intertwined just like the
36:14identity politics
36:32this has no there were not particularly
37:29freedom personal responsibility
37:31separation of powers god-given rights
37:34protected by a government elected with
37:35the consensus of these are values
37:37Western civilization but the author
37:39right actually overtly rejects these
37:41ideas they say the Constitution is
37:42outmoded that it doesn't work this is a
37:44government for white people is necessary
37:46and good because you can't assimilate
37:47people to still call the white culture
37:49they came out with neo-nazis because a
37:51lot of them actually believe some of the
37:52same things that they may own Otzi's
37:53believe white supremacy now let's be
37:56straight about this is like ten thousand
37:57people across the country this is not a
37:59million people it's not ten million
38:00people this is not 63 million people is
38:02not 200 million deplorable it's a very
38:05small select group of absolutely
38:07terrible people who believe in
38:08absolutely terrible things but they're
38:10getting a lot of attention in coverage
38:11right now because we live in a
38:12reactionary moment a lot of the people
38:14are reacting to the identity politics is
38:17left by making nice with the alright
38:18there's this weird notion on the right
38:20if you drink left is yours that's enough
38:22right drinking what this year's no
38:24Sophie all right so soft what they're
38:25fine hey you actually have to stand it
38:35is not enough to stand against and
38:37ideologies you must also stand for a
38:39good ideology you must stand for a good
38:42philosophy okay you cannot stand with
38:45the bad people just because you think
38:47those bad people make your enemies privy
38:49have any of your enemy in a country's
38:50we're we're also supposed to be friends
38:51is not only bad strategy it destroys
38:53this country goals so how do we solve
39:00all this right we're on campus and we're
39:01hearing the identity politics it's the
39:03left and then you watch the news you see
39:04identity politics see all right how do
39:06you solve all of this well the way that
39:08you solve all of this first of all it's
39:10different chemistry the way you solve
39:11all that is by letting the police use
39:12their brandished hey administrators need
39:14to let the police do their jobs none of
39:17this would have gone anywhere if back in
39:19February when Milo like significantly
39:21just like when Milo came to see if
39:23they'd not if they had allowed the
39:25police to do their jobs and arrests
39:26everyone who even hinted at violence
39:28maybe people who get violent should be
39:30arrested and they should spend time in
39:32jail and the authorities have a
39:33responsibility to allow the police to do
39:35their jobs and this is not the fault of
39:37the cost this is the fault of a cowardly
39:39political actors who pusillanimous
39:42cowards who hide behind their deaths
39:44every time some people on the left hand
39:45line a little bit and the second thing
39:48that has to happen is you have to stop
39:50seeing and everybody in America as an
39:51enemy who despises you based on identity
39:54I
39:55they don't care about you you're not
39:57that important a human he not that many
40:00of us know each other nothing that you
40:01must care about each other we care about
40:03our families whose mere about our
40:04friends and we certainly don't want to
40:05stop each other we mostly want to be
40:07treated stupidly then we can all do that
40:09if we stop looking into each other's
40:10eyes and seeing a potential enemy
40:12instead of seeing somebody who's just a
40:13person a person probably doesn't care
40:16about you very much just doesn't want to
40:18stop the human does his mind what you do
40:19this is not the difficult stuff and
40:21finally stop seeing yourself as a victim
40:24because in order to see everybody else
40:26is an enemy which justifies your
40:27violence and hate against them you have
40:29to see yourself as their victim again
40:31America is the greatest country in human
40:33history you are not if you are a victim
40:36of something you need to show me what
40:38you are a victim and I will stand beside
40:39you but do not blame 3ss most civil
40:41society in the history of planet Earth
40:43for your failures because that's on you
40:52no that's a rough I mean it was the Dean
40:55$600,000 was a security to hear all of
40:58that I have a feeling the vast majority
41:00of people who are protesting the
41:01speeches never heard of them I'm not
41:02arrogant enough to believe that Antiqua
41:04sits around watching spotlight videos if
41:07they did the idea that they're out there
41:13protesting they're out there maybe
41:14getting violent memory for people been
41:16arrested for carrying weapons ready the
41:18idea that all that is happening is
41:20indicative of the fact that we've
41:22stopped seeing each other as individuals
41:23we are all individuals I'm an individual
41:26particular point of view I am NOT a
41:28cardboard cutout for you to call a white
41:30supremacist I'm not a cardboard cutout
41:32for your colonizing and neither does
41:34anybody else in this room
41:35get to know people get to know their
41:37views just stops today that's what
41:39America that is what America is all
41:41about
41:49if we all do that I do think that
41:52America can see a better days I think
41:53we're in a dark moment right now but I
41:55think we can get to a brighter moment if
41:56we stop seeing each other as members of
41:57groups and identifying these members of
41:59groups primarily and instead see each
42:01other as individuals made in God's image
42:03one with equal value to another and
42:05God's eyes as we do that America will
42:07see a resurgence thank you so much
42:16and now the fun part so we're gonna do
42:18Kuna and I believe there's a microphone
42:20down here on the left
42:21as always my rule is that if you raise
42:23your hand because you just really gets
42:24over the present one we are indeed gonna
42:27do a Q&A this is by far the most fun
42:30point I would thank her axe guys yeah
42:34okay so ladies and gentlemen Berkley red
42:38tape and fire code I was gonna require
42:41everyone who wants to ask a question to
42:43walk out and around and form a line over
42:45there on the outside of the lobby right
42:49there we're gonna have a not referring
42:51people in after you ask your question
42:54there's a green arrow following this way
42:57we're gonna stand right here on the
42:58stacks and you're gonna walk to the back
43:00even if you're sitting in the front
43:01you're gonna have to walk all the way
43:03back and then to the other doors over
43:04there thank you ladies and gentlemen and
43:08we'll wait for the first one
43:12[Applause]
43:49[Applause]
43:54thank you guys for happening
43:58hello
44:00hi thank you for coming I do not
44:03disagree with a lot that you just said
44:06that's why I'm here
44:07yeah so let's talk about institutions
44:11dis you're saying she's not blame
44:12institutions happening Campbell and
44:15something like thinking you know that
44:17person per se is not recognized so let's
44:21start with the beginning of the life
44:23your maybe you were going into a poor
44:25family community where the schools where
44:30crimes are high you have to save you I
44:33think you know it's your question is
44:37according to my thinking I would say
44:40that's why and that person because
44:48education good the manatee be provided
44:53in turmoil in our communities instead of
44:55just based on you know how rich your
44:57houses just did you respond to that so I
45:00mean so if I made in your question
45:01straight so there's gonna be so you're
45:04suggesting that children grow up an
45:05unequal circumstances together the
45:06school district they go to not all
45:08schools are equal there are a lot of
45:09public schools that are garbage
45:13yes and I feel like in my world my thing
45:17and I think about is the quality and
45:19that is so I agree with you that not all
45:25public schools of are good and I agree
45:26with you that there is such a thing as
45:28equality of course there's such a thing
45:30as inequality we're not all born this is
45:31placement all warningly intelligence
45:33we're not
45:33organ gifts some of us are born smart
45:36but short will ever play in the NBA you
45:38know like we're not on board it's just a
45:40truism
45:40the question is is there an equity right
45:43is there an equity that needs to do
45:44remedy and the question that is and
45:46what's the best way to remedy that
45:47inequity so when you say that there's
45:48inequality is that because they're a
45:50bunch of rich people who are screwing
45:51those floor kicked out of a good school
45:52I don't think so because we're spending
45:54qoodles of money in the public schools
45:55particularly in poor areas it's not
45:57paying off very well what I would
45:59suggest is the best possible solution is
46:00devolve those dollars back to Terrance
46:02he's presumably care about those kids
46:03more than the public school system
46:05doesn't allow them as it chooses the
46:06schools for the children so I can agree
46:08with you that there was inequality then
46:09the question becomes okay how do we
46:11solve that problem so inequality and
46:14inequity are not the same thing and
46:15acquainting the two ideas just he
46:19developed thank you so I feel like you
46:21know we were getting really installer
46:23begin an epidemic here that is exactly
46:25what we saw is saying essentially
46:27talking about naturally evolving into
46:29the quality naturally the quality the
46:32quality that you're saying in that
46:34pipeline and I feel like society to the
46:44quality construct Opia and then suggest
46:57all children are going to have the same
46:59level of education and this is not
47:00reality
47:01there's no places
47:02because that's not the case you're right
47:05but there's a difference between
47:06difference in smarts and difference in
47:08the poverty situations in which you
47:10threw up but the truth is that the
47:12biggest inequality is the biggest
47:15inequity and inequality I would say this
47:16Terrance who decides to get a friend out
47:18of weather I mean if you want to look
47:19after them another performance has a
47:20much less to do with the school that you
47:23go to and much more to do with your
47:24family situation at home again I'm not
47:26arguing with you that any of these
47:27things are problem
47:28the question is reporter called whose
47:30tits Wayne and I think this is where we
47:32get you know problem in politics because
47:33the idea is that the person supplying
47:35must be the rich guy down the street now
47:36these rich guys fall I think that there
47:39are certain things is like that just
47:40aren't fair and then the question
47:42becomes okay how do we maximize
47:42opportunity without invading the right
47:44to somebody else and the easiest way to
47:46do that is to let people keep more of
47:48their own money and to do more to
47:50privatize the school system to give you
47:51people more choice
47:53[Applause]
48:00as great reveal them of behind a curtain
48:03and then in walk markets
48:12I'm honored to be the second part
48:14descent in this game show argument that
48:18the gender gave to the Jennifer to make
48:20bad news isn't it and one of the reasons
48:24this is the case is because that female
48:26stem education is dramatic females are
48:31continuous urged not going to sin feels
48:34weird like much lower than men ourselves
48:36wondering what you feel about this
48:38argument and I can hug did you like that
48:41you do I'm indeed or country can choose
48:45abilities if the idea is that the pay
48:47gap is largely teaches profession choice
48:49that's obviously true if you look at a
48:50lot of dangerous professions firemen
48:52people who are gonna oil erase his
48:54tendency men because men want to go into
48:57those it's professions it's also true
48:58that men tend to spend more hours it's a
48:59workplace it's also for the women tend
49:02to take more time off with babies women
49:05will overeat to me when feminists look
49:06like it's terrible that women take time
49:08off to be with their babies why Thank
49:10You wonderful yeah I think there is the
49:12societal discouragement for women to go
49:14into these particulars wondering if like
49:18there's women being a firefighter what I
49:22actually sees there's an affirmative
49:23action program in many of these cases
49:25for women going into things like
49:26firefighting because there's now an
49:28affirmative attempt to get probably
49:29previous time feels like fines
49:31technology so okay so there's 10 okay so
49:33James do more has an interesting battle
49:35that got acquired from Google on this
49:37but it is but it is certainly true that
49:39when you look at for example what women
49:41nature in in college the number of women
49:43who major in stem studies which has
49:45nothing to do with getting
49:47it's in women majoring in humanities
49:49much more than many men are just
49:51interested in this stuff when it's a
49:52terrible nineties my there but it'd be
49:53like those societal inputs that occurs
49:55to you before the College of all right I
49:57mean I don't know that there are a lot
49:59of people saying to a seventh grade girl
50:00who's good at math you need to stop and
50:03go read some poetry
50:08I have three younger sisters right I
50:13have my wife is a doctor by the way so
50:15second that step by wife's a doctor my
50:17mom runs a company very much for women
50:20in the workplace is being able for them
50:21and choose what they want to choose I
50:23really don't see a lot you can just tell
50:25me the person who's out there going
50:26woman's five five then I'll stand let me
50:30take that person's adult that's really
50:32stupid you know the woman wants to go
50:34into science it's just qualified for the
50:35job the same way that it equally
50:37qualified guy is great but I don't want
50:39is lowering their standards in science
50:41to meet any particular person and
50:42analysis don't want this idea that
50:43because of woman chooses not to go into
50:45science and a lot of women choose not to
50:47go into science and that creates
50:48disproportionate percentage based on
50:49individual choice that's actually this
50:51is some sort of group discriminations
50:53happening in front of us
50:55[Applause]
51:03hi first off I just want to say thank
51:06you for speaking as a fellow a Jewish
51:07conservative thank you so much for the
51:09two of us man so I wanted to ask you do
51:16you believe that there's an explanation
51:17for why victimization has become the
51:20main tactic of a bar level to gain
51:21support of the people yes
51:23so I did you think victimization was
51:25always his tactics doubled if I went up
51:26it was just as economic victimizations
51:28right Marxism is based on the idea that
51:30the proletariat are gonna rise up and
51:31overthrow the booth law but there's just
51:33a scoop of under underprivileged people
51:35as they call it who are going to rise up
51:38and there weren't great change to find
51:39them and take over the world whose
51:40always based on this notion that you're
51:42being victimized by somebody else but in
51:44the 1960s particularly it was clear that
51:47as America was thriving so so much was
51:49the 1950s economically and American
51:52become of this great world power the
51:53prominent world power they in terms of
51:55the economy was very hard to make the
51:56case to people who are not as wealthy
51:58that you need to rise up against this
52:01country which is creating all their
52:02wealth and so instead what the Left
52:03decided to do was misdirect into a
52:05legitimate grievance which was in ethnic
52:08based and sex based breathing's which
52:10made a lot more sense in the 1950s and
52:1260s than it does in 2017 and so there
52:15was this idea there could be identify
52:16you in troops we can use those groups
52:18just carry on the American
52:19infrastructure this system that's been
52:21developed by white men for the privilege
52:23of white men and we can tear that the
52:24concern that the other based on class
52:25these it turns out a lot of war people
52:27in the United States still wanted to get
52:28rich and they need that system to get
52:30rich but you can't do it based on group
52:32identity because if you can make women
52:33feel but the system is designed
52:35black people feel like the system is
52:37designed to keep you bend down and then
52:39you can tell them that it's the
52:40capitalist system more generally that is
52:42designed to keep them down and that
52:43whole system the superstructure is ripe
52:45with racism it has to be torn out root
52:47and branch if you can do that then you
52:50can actually feel the movement on the
52:51back of that and that's what you're
52:52seeing in the Democratic Party actually
52:54right now it's fascinating to watch the
52:55conflict between sort of the Obama
52:57identity politics Democratic Party and
52:59the Bernie Sanders socialist Democratic
53:01Party because that's actually an old
53:03battle right now it's the battle between
53:04economic class distinctions based visits
53:06victimization and identity politics
53:08based victimization which is really more
53:10what Obama uses 2012 re-election so
53:12would you say this is more of like get
53:14rich rich Seymour I can't be rich no
53:17well I think it's time which we're
53:21talking about the people who buy into
53:22the idea of victimization I don't need
53:23to get rich quick scheme so much as and
53:25I feel victimized scheme and I don't
53:26feel like taking responsibility but for
53:29the people at the top I think that it
53:30actually is a question I think people
53:32with the top very often know exactly
53:34what they are doing and know because
53:36they don't live like this right I mean
53:38Barack Obama didn't live his life
53:39thinking of himself as a dramatic victim
53:41of society until he decided to write
53:43reduce my father and revise everything
53:45right but the fact is that Barack
53:46Obama's that I can agree we achieved
53:47this whole life I mean use it the
53:49cheaper and he did if you've been
53:51sitting around thinking how victimizers
53:52well I could be very difficulty to get
53:54what I got thank you
54:01hey that given that the single things
54:05Victor interject intergenerational
54:07poverty is whether an individual was
54:09raised as a single or two parent
54:11household to be for or against
54:14affirmative action policy where the
54:16institution gives preferential treatment
54:19it's too complicated to arrange severe
54:21houses or you believe that that would
54:23give rise to more boxes up right so
54:26here's my view on affirmative action I
54:28don't believe that you should lower
54:29standards in order to let people in
54:31because you're dismissed and retaining
54:32somebody else you should do my color so
54:34livid if you have a white applicant who
54:38scored fourteen hundred on their SATs
54:41business now twenty one hundred on their
54:43SATs and they want to go to a and they
54:46want to go to a good school and you have
54:47and that person grew up in a single
54:49family single parent family impoverished
54:53and you have a black person who's Colin
54:55Powell's kids scores exactly the same
54:56explore then I think that if you're
54:58going to look at all the factors you can
55:00say okay the person we had to overcome
55:01all these obstacles to get the same
55:02score deserves to get it but that's
55:04based on overcoming obstacles that's a
55:06character judgment that is not a
55:08judgment on the basis brakes and I also
55:10don't think it's hard fast rule with
55:12regard to a single mother friend again
55:13if you are any single child if you're
55:16the kid who is the child of some famous
55:18Hollywood actress is broken the lap of
55:20luxury versus you grew up in Appalachia
55:22or the inner city with two parents I
55:24think you have to look at totality loser
55:26in other words this points to the lena
55:49dunham shouting you know secure IQ or
56:08incomes take a good in terms of like
56:10bloating ride for you to talk to about
56:18policy I think when I was at Harvard Law
56:21School there was there a bunch of
56:24professors were on the Left including
56:25was this Lauren actually who she was
56:28relatively interesting to talk to
56:29although there's Anna Richards Parker
56:36because professors everybody likes a lot
56:38here who was a professor's there who
56:40actually ended up writing a law firm
56:42recommendation she was such a lettuces
56:43the chooses that we nominate Under
56:45Secretary of Labor she was a smart lady
56:50I think they start wrong foundational
56:57principles ISM if you're smart person
56:59starting from the wrong principles you
57:00can reason your way in virtually
57:01anything thank you
57:08first of all I just wanted to thank you
57:11for coming as someone who is
57:13left-leaning I truly believe in freedom
57:15of speech and that is a principle thank
57:17you so my question was about abortion
57:24and I just want to know why exactly do
57:27you think a first trimester fetus
57:33because whether you consider it a
57:34potential human life or in Orangeville
57:36on the midline it has more value than
57:39just a cluster of cells if left to its
57:41natural processes it will grow into a
57:43baby so the real question is where do
57:45you draw the line so you can draw the
57:46line at the heartbeat because it's very
57:47hard to draw the line at the heartbeat
57:48there are people who are adults who are
57:50alive because of a pacemaker and they
57:51need some sort of an outside force
57:52generating their heartbeat carried into
57:54a may stem brain function okay well what
57:56about people who are in a coma
57:57should we just tell them right the
57:59problem is that anytime you draw any
58:00line other than the inception of the
58:02child you end up drawing a false line
58:04that can also be applied to people who
58:06are adults so either human life has
58:08intrinsic value or it doesn't I think we
58:10both agree that adults who the legends
58:12exactly can we start from a premise
58:13I believe that sentience has its what
58:17gives something moral value not
58:19necessarily not necessarily being human
58:22when you're sleepy
58:28okay I'm gonna coma and I'm not like
58:55doing anything to anyone I'm not causing
58:58any issues so much the world whereas a
59:01normal child may or may not be a parent
59:09right well budget our duties in the
59:14argument right before you are making the
59:16argument based on the intrinsic value of
59:18a life based on sentences and now you're
59:19talking about the level of burden that
59:21somebody presents as a separate moral
59:23argument okay I don't believe that you
59:25being a burden on somebody is
59:26justification for them telling you
59:29[Applause]
59:41hello mr. Shapiro you have consistently
59:45praised the free market as the most
59:46effective the means by which to combat
59:48racism sexist is accepted right you
59:51believe legislation prohibiting such
59:53behaviors is essentially people such as
59:57yourself conscious enough to fight the
59:59termination business or can be shown at
1:00:01the end of the day to conduct itself at
1:00:04the pursuit of profit my question is as
1:00:06follows if insurance companies can
1:00:08charge young female sister through
1:00:09higher prices of car insurance than
1:00:11young females because of the former has
1:00:13statistically been shown to be more
1:00:14reckless drivers
1:00:15does this not leave open the possibility
1:00:17in a free market system for insurance
1:00:19companies to charge premiums based on
1:00:21certain ethnic or racial factors these
1:00:23is happening the racial categories if
1:00:27you object to the notion of charging
1:00:29someone more based on the factory that
1:00:30that person has virtually no agent using
1:00:32sex
1:00:34why'd be not condemning the fact that
1:00:35young men activated if you do not object
1:00:37to the possibility that person of a
1:00:39certain sex ethnic or racial group may
1:00:41have to pay more on that basis then are
1:00:43you not failing to dismiss out
1:00:44discriminatory tracks okay I think what
1:00:49it really boils down to the answer is
1:00:51that what you're taught you are now
1:00:52conflating ethnic racism with risk
1:00:55factors okay I don't have a racist lived
1:00:57at risk factors meaning if you are
1:00:58saying that insurance companies may use
1:01:00being black as its proxies for heart
1:01:02disease for example because black men
1:01:04suffer from heart disease in a higher
1:01:05rate rather than white men two of the
1:01:07savings was renamed then my answer is
1:01:10that insurance of somebody's in the
1:01:11business of assessing risk not in the
1:01:12business of assessment racism so if they
1:01:14look at you and they say that this is a
1:01:16higher risk factor I'm in another place
1:01:17sickle cell anemia right there are
1:01:18certain diseases that actually do it
1:01:19what the race is differently tastes
1:01:22so the answer is you're an insurance
1:01:23company folks are gonna charge more to
1:01:25somebody can has a higher risk factor
1:01:26that's not racism Bester's the profit
1:01:29motive I'm not saying that everyone's
1:01:30gonna get charged to say minute
1:01:32insurance of course not I see that you
1:01:34and I won't be charged the same global
1:01:35government I'm older than you presumably
1:01:37they'll measure our bodily health don't
1:01:40make a bunch of distinctions you know
1:01:42they'll make bunch of decisions as to
1:01:43what our risk factors are and how that
1:01:45measures out in terms of what I need to
1:01:47pay in order to cover my projections but
1:01:50that has nothing to do with with quote
1:01:52unquote discrimination so there was for
1:02:14insurance companies to charge someone a
1:02:16surplus charge between the next two
1:02:19premium by purchase the fact that they
1:02:21are Native American in their existence
1:02:23no I think it's there for an insurance
1:02:24company to charge someone based on the
1:02:26risk factor of driving so what I would
1:02:28suggest is that in a free market system
1:02:30in this wide Opena 3 market system
1:02:31there's an insurance company did we're
1:02:32talking about the insurance company
1:02:34decided Native Americans get charged
1:02:36more okay there would be another
1:02:38insurance company that would come along
1:02:39and they would say okay he's really true
1:02:41the Native Americans whose reverses
1:02:42they're being charged more than I
1:02:43undercut my competitor by looking at
1:02:45people on an individual level and
1:02:47looking at all of their risk factors
1:02:48apart from race because race is not
1:02:50inherently linked
1:02:52with males because for instance not all
1:02:54men you know are going to be any number
1:02:57themselves like more reckless driving
1:02:59females however like I said neither
1:03:04occasions but this is why I mean this is
1:03:07my car insurance companies have the
1:03:08driver discount for example the goods
1:03:09right they actually do book it more then
1:03:12you just like my insurance rates went up
1:03:13through the ceiling what I got caught
1:03:14going down the aisle 501 13 and have my
1:03:16license suspended for a month for five
1:03:19years so you know that this is so the
1:03:22point that I'm making is that if you are
1:03:24suggesting that if you're trying to line
1:03:26up discrimination with market based
1:03:29profits if your question is is that can
1:03:32you imagine a situation in which a
1:03:34business makes more money by
1:03:35discriminating and would that be okay
1:03:37then the answer would be it's just the
1:03:39pre get to business you can do what you
1:03:40want to free society not have no right
1:03:42to use your services however it is yet
1:03:45to come to my attention that racial
1:03:46discrimination in a business is an
1:03:48actual profitable thing over time in a
1:03:51free market system where people can
1:03:52compete because race is not inherently
1:03:54connected to behavioral categories right
1:03:57basis of racism is that race is
1:03:58connected to behavior well I just like
1:04:01to say for instance Thomas slope point
1:04:04pointed out like in his book black right
1:04:14he got cheap would not the Irish forces
1:04:19were in the Americas or hundreds upon
1:04:22hundreds of years locked in destitute
1:04:24grinding poverty right okay so you just
1:04:27said that race you know if your company
1:04:31is too racist policies won't like like
1:04:36there's no long term gain to be made
1:04:38from those pulses I think that's
1:04:41erroneous to say because it has to know
1:04:44in that inequalities
1:04:47disparities do exist between certain
1:04:49communities so you
1:04:52based on races why it's biologically
1:04:54important supposed to culture to say
1:04:56that it's not biologically born
1:04:58understand that if you have a policy
1:05:00where you okay I don't want you to
1:05:05confuse your problem having and I think
1:05:06instead of this but I don't want to
1:05:09spend found racist behavior unless you
1:05:11can show me that race is the inerrant
1:05:13source of a behavior and if it is the
1:05:15inner horses behavior then looking up
1:05:16some instructions but I don't see that
1:05:17and if you show me that race is is back
1:05:19that then that's that's isn't second
1:05:21discussion is whether we have to force
1:05:22businesses not to take race into account
1:05:27[Applause]
1:05:42my question is are you familiar with the
1:05:45German state movement and if so what do
1:05:46you think about I'm sorry are you
1:05:49familiar with the German state movement
1:05:51and if so what do you think about
1:05:56[Music]
1:05:59yes thank you so yes I am familiar with
1:06:02it I think the California is far too
1:06:05large income assistance are too many
1:06:09different people of different different
1:06:11political orientations for its campuses
1:06:13any electoral votes that said I think
1:06:16the chance to separate in California
1:06:17into from a political point of view the
1:06:19chance of separating California in three
1:06:20or four states with you know six or
1:06:22eight senators that could be a very
1:06:24dangerous thing for the balance of the
1:06:26country
1:06:34they've been on purpose to Parker PSA
1:06:37and question so yes a is that even
1:06:39though they were says once you've stand
1:06:41by tickets and there was a line out the
1:06:43door the administration should revoke to
1:06:45all the standby tickets for all those
1:06:46people and I think that should be before
1:06:48the shun
1:06:49that's totally seats here and the only
1:06:54reason we had we had more than three
1:06:57thousand people signed up for this
1:06:58ascent the administration cut off the
1:07:00upper balcony because they were
1:07:01apparently afraid teaspoon was going to
1:07:03somehow rip out the bolted down seats
1:07:04and fling them onto the people below I'm
1:07:06not joking like this was the actual
1:07:07excuse that they gave and then we
1:07:09thought okay they're gonna be a bunch of
1:07:11people who signed up on the left to get
1:07:12tickets and didn't show up specifically
1:07:13so that would we have two seats and as
1:07:15you say hundreds of people showed up
1:07:17outside and we're not allowed in because
1:07:18the administration ticket if it's for
1:07:20safety reasons it's a cover it okay you
1:07:24know I'll try to assume the best that
1:07:26it's for safety reasons but if it's
1:07:27cowardice obviously it's cowardice
1:07:29dystrophy Lincoln more towards the
1:07:33criminalization of the drug jesus knew
1:07:34that you particularly how do you feel
1:07:37about the criminal justice system you
1:07:39know with all these nonviolent and
1:07:41there's all the money that we send on
1:07:42all the nonviolent offenders and drug
1:07:44abuse is open to the army so baby drug
1:07:46use Act which should be still
1:07:47criminalize it and reach those people
1:07:49the way that we do
1:07:57so let me be clear about this people who
1:08:00smoke dope annoy the living crap out of
1:08:01me and they smell fear that said if you
1:08:04want to smoke dope and lose brain cells
1:08:06then that's your problem so long as
1:08:08you're not coming to me for a handout I
1:08:10think there are certain drugs like PCP
1:08:13that apparently makes his violence his
1:08:15that has externalities that's something
1:08:17that you have to talk about policing you
1:08:18have about policing in terms of you know
1:08:20selling drugs to minors but it doesn't
1:08:23seem to me the way you're talking about
1:08:23things like marijuana for example you
1:08:25couldn't police marijuana the same way
1:08:26that the police cigarettes or alcohol
1:08:28and just make it very difficult to sell
1:08:30it to people who are underage the
1:08:32biggest problem you have right now is
1:08:33that marijuana is so plentiful in places
1:08:36like California that even legalizing it
1:08:38is not gonna get rid of the black market
1:08:39because it actually the price is higher
1:08:40in the legal would be on the black
1:08:42market there are mixes best but when you
1:09:01talk about opioids which are actually
1:09:02addictive the higher level regulation of
1:09:05opioids seems to me not appropriate to
1:09:08clarify my questions do you think they
1:09:09should still be criminalizing these is
1:09:10not criminal if you are if you are
1:09:19smoking dope in your room then no I
1:09:21don't think identity all right
1:09:29hello mr. Shue so I'd like to first
1:09:32follow up on my question before making
1:09:34it so mr. Shapiro as a conservative
1:09:36intellectual I respect you deeply and I
1:09:39agree with you when I posted issues
1:09:41however there is one where I disagree
1:09:43with you which is what we should do
1:09:44about climate change while I agree with
1:09:47you that we should be skeptical of
1:09:49climate alarmists I cannot help but
1:09:51think of it hospitality if the skeptics
1:09:54are right we have to do this
1:09:56but if they are wrong then we have the
1:09:58world in a 1984 election advertisement
1:10:02Ronald Reagan campaigns if there's there
1:10:05if you think there's a variable once you
1:10:08bring you're given this maximum and
1:10:11ratings decision to protect the ozone
1:10:13layer by eliminating CFCs via the
1:10:15Montreal Protocol at a time when the
1:10:18science was very much split on whether
1:10:20or not do so there could ever be right
1:10:21here would you support a revenue-neutral
1:10:24carbon tax that would be revenue neutral
1:10:27in the sense that the taxes we balance
1:10:29by tax by lowering of taxes on
1:10:33businesses on the individual uses things
1:10:35like that do you think that this would
1:10:37be a good insurance policy that would
1:10:41not necessarily give the command
1:10:43economies the command economists on the
1:10:46Left what they wanted but also entertain
1:10:48the possibility that maybe climate
1:10:50change is real and maybe there's my
1:10:54position on climate changed I I think
1:10:59that the greenhouse gas effect is
1:11:02improvement in laboratories that carbon
1:11:04emission is can the world warmer the
1:11:06question is the sensitivity of the
1:11:07climate to those it's green house gas
1:11:09emissions how much is absorbed by the
1:11:10oceans for example and what effect that
1:11:12has to find that long-term computer
1:11:15modeling is a plot that's that said even
1:11:18if you leave the climate listen to take
1:11:20the guy who suggests it right yeah SEC
1:11:21estimate is that we're supposed to
1:11:23increasing by the end of the century by
1:11:24seven degrees or disease the globalist
1:11:26so that varies obviously places places
1:11:28that also means that you have to take
1:11:31into account cops right so I mean you
1:11:35know as far as the carbon tax I haven't
1:11:36actually looked at the economics it's
1:11:38what you're talking about statistically
1:11:39enough the general regulations the
1:11:40different imposed on the carbon tax is
1:11:42talked about the penalizes companies in
1:11:43such a way that the cost is passed on to
1:11:45the consumer it seems to me that you're
1:11:46gonna create new taxes without
1:11:48dramatically lowering taxes you suggests
1:11:51which is really what the Left proposed
1:11:52is left sorta proposes carbon taxes but
1:11:54no offsets that you're going to end up
1:11:57with a situation where the cost of
1:12:00energy is passed on to consumer which
1:12:01leaves more people in poverty and I
1:12:03think pretending that there are no
1:12:04trade-offs when it comes to government
1:12:06regulation is foolhardy
1:12:07I also think that the the truth is is
1:12:09what we've seen is that greenhouse gas
1:12:10emissions are defiling thanks to
1:12:12technological developments and for
1:12:14example did the easiest way to to lower
1:12:16greenhouse gas emissions right now if
1:12:17you build a bunch of nuclear power
1:12:18plants which is something
1:12:20California for a very very long time 40
1:12:24years there's if he would give me the
1:12:27right to testify you know the idea that
1:12:28there is not new technologies around the
1:12:30corner that are going to help us
1:12:32mitigate the emissions is foolhardy to
1:12:36me I think that when when sramek says
1:12:39you know bring a gun into the woods
1:12:41there the question is when you bring a
1:12:43gun into the woods the question is
1:12:44whether or a thesis that a bear is there
1:12:46the question is whether to bring a gun
1:12:48into the woods right now based on the
1:12:50Economist as I've looked at the question
1:12:52is whether you should randomly wander
1:12:53around the woods in a tank right is that
1:12:55worthwhile because the kind of the kind
1:12:57of solutions that it seems the leftist
1:12:59suggestions are necessary or in actually
1:13:00occur but they think it's coming are so
1:13:02dramatic
1:13:03that you talk about a really
1:13:06dramatically lowering the American and
1:13:08the global standard of living in order
1:13:09to the combat until then may or may not
1:13:11happen even does happen
1:13:13may be easier to deal with 100 years
1:13:15from now our technology 100 years from
1:13:16now is gonna be a lot better than the
1:13:17idea by the way the people population
1:13:21throughout human history right but what
1:13:24I'm what I'm statistically advocating
1:13:26for here is that the right to come up
1:13:29with its own policy in service of
1:13:31solving climate changes right now the
1:13:33discussion has been dominated by the
1:13:35type of people that you're talking about
1:13:36who want to promote ank's and divorce
1:13:38randomly why I'm suggesting is a carbon
1:13:41but certain is carbon tax that is
1:13:43revenue neutral that should be supported
1:13:45by conservatives is because this is a
1:13:46better solution to a lot of what we're
1:13:48seeing on the left but I think that
1:13:49conservative intellectuals like yourself
1:13:51who have a lot of sway and who could
1:13:55advertise this policy I'd be happy to
1:13:57if I look at your proposals the answer
1:13:58is yes as you said your proposal I'll be
1:14:00happy to look at and but I think that
1:14:02it's worth noting that there are
1:14:03actually three positions right one is
1:14:05that the free market and into
1:14:06efficiencies and new technologies will
1:14:08help curb this on the tone and then
1:14:09government regulation should not be
1:14:11answers then there's the hard left
1:14:12position which is what you take over
1:14:13everything
1:14:14and then there's position you're
1:14:15advocating so I'll have to look at your
1:14:16position and see where I think it stacks
1:14:17up in investing you think but
1:14:19environmental regulations I don't know
1:14:21many conservatives who are not in favor
1:14:22of some at least minimal environmental
1:14:24regulations because those are
1:14:25externalities that affect people beyond
1:14:26the beyond you obvious all right
1:14:36hi my name's Caroline
1:14:45whenever somebody on the Left comes with
1:14:47my lectures Thank You Caroline for
1:14:50coming we've the borage of the CMS
1:14:55murder
1:14:55did you believe women in to get
1:14:56abortions even when their lives the
1:14:58child's life is in danger
1:15:00should we go the first reason is because
1:15:13I don't think that it is effective
1:15:15deterring the board to put women on
1:15:18trial for for the killing of the unborn
1:15:20the second reason is because I think
1:15:22that we in our society have
1:15:23unfortunately gotten such a point that
1:15:24an entire generation have been
1:15:26indoctrinated to believe particularly an
1:15:28attraction to women so we're talking
1:15:30about urban a doctor natives believe
1:15:31that a baby is hollow and so when they
1:15:33remove it I'm not sure there's the
1:15:34actual mens rea unnecessary the actual
1:15:36criminal intent necessary for a
1:15:37prosecution so when we're talking about
1:15:40you know the typical pro-life position
1:15:42here has been that the woman is disease
1:15:43victim and abortion nearly as much as
1:15:45the babies that there is that there's an
1:15:47entire abortion industry that is geared
1:15:49toward teaching women that babies are
1:15:51not babies is not getting maybe aborted
1:15:55is in fact betterment of their life so
1:15:57no I'm not in favor of prosecuting women
1:15:59in Florence but I mean you know today
1:16:08they are ordering
1:16:13I just gave you two reasons what a
1:16:16public policies one and and one look
1:16:18you'd have to show me you really have to
1:16:22show me the case of a woman who went in
1:16:23there and said I know this is a baby cut
1:16:25its brain then that is his fantasize I
1:16:30mean that's like wouldn't you
1:16:31acknowledge mean if we're walked in with
1:16:32no the baby goes one day old and said
1:16:34here's my baby kill it wouldn't you put
1:16:37her on trial but that's easy that's now
1:16:38we're talking on the vast majority of
1:16:40abortion is the truth is unfortunately
1:16:41that women don't actually believe
1:16:43they're killing a child they actually
1:16:44believe they're killing something that
1:16:46is not human don't think it abortion is
1:17:00murder is a fundamental element in any
1:17:04criminal prosecution
1:17:05I think portions I think that it's
1:17:07terrible for them I think
1:17:08thanks a lot worse today
1:17:15and you make your own public policy
1:17:18based on the vast majority not on the
1:17:19outline case of course isn't the same as
1:17:22murder
1:17:23you wouldn't trigger the mistake of a
1:17:24false fear in love no I absolutely can
1:17:26because there are many types of murder
1:17:27and there's there's manslaughter yeah
1:17:29there's unintentional murder so the
1:17:33doctor knows that time saying the doctor
1:17:34has the mens rea the doctor has the
1:17:36actual intent to commit a murder because
1:17:38doctor full well in those that's a baby
1:17:39in there who's beating heart here's your
1:17:41stopping so interactive that was it
1:17:49Kermit Gosnell on trial for first-degree
1:17:51for her you know this time trial or or
1:17:55either second-degree murder or
1:17:57manslaughter the this is this is a crime
1:18:00against humanity that's eternal and if
1:18:02you believe that obviously the
1:18:03ideologically consistent yes and this is
1:18:05it again traditional pro-life position
1:18:07I'm not aware of any major pro-life or
1:18:09in America who believes his limit you
1:18:10put on traveler
1:18:14[Applause]
1:18:20okay hey Ben my name is Andrew and since
1:18:24Jack has been making a huge headlines
1:18:26throughout the whole nation what do you
1:18:28think she's with you now should have
1:18:29been a pastor everything should she say
1:18:32have a baby something else better or
1:18:34should we continue having attacked each
1:18:42other okay so first of all my position
1:18:45on immigration is I'm actually very
1:18:47libertarian on immigration except for
1:18:49two factors one is government payments
1:18:51that go to the illegal immigrants and
1:18:52the second is the is the cultural
1:18:54assimilation issues for people who come
1:18:56across the border illegally and are
1:18:57willing to assimilate into traditional
1:18:59American culture right so these are two
1:19:01serious concerns I'm not as concerned
1:19:03with the economics as illegal
1:19:04immigration in the sense that people who
1:19:06say you have to restrict our labor force
1:19:07in order to maintain a certain wage base
1:19:09I don't think that's correct because
1:19:11this is why you see companies that
1:19:12actually offshore and outsource because
1:19:14they're looking for cheaper labor it's
1:19:15it's all we will bring anyone
1:19:17conservative state but we have to
1:19:18maintain a wage base by restricting the
1:19:20labor supply then why are you for
1:19:21raising the minimum wage that does
1:19:23exactly the same thing restricts to the
1:19:25labor supply and raise the wage base so
1:19:28as far as daca dodged my view on top is
1:19:30the people who are here illegally
1:19:32whether they were born here or whether
1:19:34they were brought here small children or
1:19:36not should be assessed on one
1:19:38[Music]
1:19:40so I am not in favor of the blanket swap
1:19:43amnesty for millions of people based on
1:19:46how long they've been here I've been
1:19:47favored of looking at people one on one
1:19:49and saying okay this person is in
1:19:50college and looks like they're gonna
1:19:51have a career and haven't been taking
1:19:52welfare dollars this person looks like
1:19:53they're they're a good American or they
1:19:55want to be a good American put them in
1:19:57the back of the line on a pathway to
1:19:58legalization but if you're here you take
1:20:01you welfare dollars you're not going to
1:20:02school you're not bettering yourself
1:20:04you're not going to be a productive part
1:20:05of American society having to buy basic
1:20:08American cultural hallmarks you do that
1:20:10you go the exact same standard for
1:20:12people who are currently here at legally
1:20:13as those people who want to enter
1:20:14legally understand exact standard except
1:20:16if you're here illegally go to the back
1:20:17of the line you wait behind the people
1:20:18who came here legally it's a little bit
1:20:38I want to ask you about the recent
1:20:41politically polarizing tendencies of the
1:20:43media oh yeah
1:20:44so I identify particular tendency for
1:20:57people to just choose their own
1:21:02[Music]
1:21:43[Music]
1:22:06[Music]
1:22:13what's the way out more information
1:22:16supporting the idea that the government
1:22:19the government should never be regulated
1:22:21to siege or access students once the
1:22:22government does that then you're
1:22:24wandering it's very very suspicious a
1:22:26territory when it comes to consumers
1:22:28this media look the me here just can
1:22:30provide you what you want to read ok
1:22:32neither do we provide you what you want
1:22:33to click them and yes most of its pre
1:22:36most to people in the media deficit
1:22:37including the level meaning media do we
1:22:39want to tell the truth I think a lot of
1:22:40them don't recognize everybody
1:22:41you know I'm conservative that ends a
1:22:43way that I cover the news is going to
1:22:45determine conservative Engel I try to
1:22:46separate myself and others say okay
1:22:48here's the facts and then here's my
1:22:49opinion but everything that I say is
1:22:51something from that point of view I
1:22:52think we wanted big problems in media
1:22:54people don't do that whether George
1:22:55Stephanopoulos tries to pretend it's an
1:22:57objective news source but that doesn't
1:22:59mean everything he says is false but it
1:23:00does mean that everything he says is
1:23:01something from the former campaign
1:23:03spokesperson for Bill Clinton and that
1:23:05should have it in hand so it doesn't
1:23:07suck to us to look at a variety of news
1:23:09sources I recommend this all the time
1:23:10right don't just listen to my podcast
1:23:11the listeners of pot a generic pot in
1:23:13America don't just read daily wire go
1:23:15over and check Huffington Post make sure
1:23:17that you're reading a variety of news
1:23:18sources you actually want to tell what
1:23:19the facts are the best way to do it is
1:23:21to read two opposing two opposing
1:23:23websites there's two opposing outlets
1:23:25and think of them as lines that
1:23:27intersect with one more point and the
1:23:29point which they intersect is the
1:23:30factual point and that's not occurred
1:23:56that's why you know the founders relied
1:23:59on the idea that we're going to come
1:24:00excessively agitated I mean you're gonna
1:24:03trust a sequel one way or another I
1:24:04don't trust the government to regulate
1:24:05what people see I trust the government
1:24:07let's regulate the pp which is regularly
1:24:09what people see then I do the people to
1:24:10agitating themselves and this one falls
1:24:13under the heading
1:24:14the turtles that democracies versus
1:24:16except for all the others right
1:24:18unfortunately there's no way out of this
1:24:19box people are going to have to inform
1:24:21themselves better and yes of course
1:24:22people have a tendency toward
1:24:24confirmation bias but that's why it's
1:24:25your job if you know about confirmation
1:24:27bias to suggest to people that maybe
1:24:28they should stop relying so much on
1:24:30their own confirmation bias okay thanks
1:24:38hey Ben my name is very hot and I'm a
1:24:41Muslim in junior in high school and I've
1:24:43been really trying to have her in you
1:24:44know what I believe in
1:24:45so I'd be conservative and you've anyone
1:24:48could be educators so thank you for
1:24:49coming here
1:24:50well thank you when you talk about
1:24:56inequality being one of the stupidest
1:24:58things to measure because well dr.
1:25:00Pierce has talked about a Gini
1:25:02coefficient so they calculate income
1:25:05inequality neighborhoods and streets
1:25:10your neighbor you know her worth it so
1:25:13do you have to be response to that yes
1:25:16there's greater income inequality
1:25:18between Bill Gates is its neighbor than
1:25:20there is between anybody living in the
1:25:21inner city there's no crime at Bill
1:25:22Gates
1:25:23so I would suggest it it has more to do
1:25:26with poverty to neighborhood them in
1:25:27halves of intimate equality in
1:25:28neighborhood you talk about
1:25:32institutional racism the now it doesn't
1:25:34really exist and I would not have heard
1:25:39of discrimination and the bank lending
1:25:43discrimination and that the idea of
1:25:44redlining was widely debunked sincerely
1:25:46tees dialysis in regard to how banks
1:25:48operating yeah did the banks sit around
1:25:50and then they figure out okay there's a
1:25:51black guy it has exactly the same credit
1:25:53score's white guy I'm not getting them
1:25:54alone banks face it on credit score's
1:25:57pages in a we bought a business so you
1:26:00know a lot of this has been wildly
1:26:01exaggerated again if you can show me a
1:26:02bank that actually is redlining then
1:26:04they would be prosecuted under federal
1:26:05law that's a violation in the Civil
1:26:07Rights Act of 1964 you can't
1:26:08discriminate
1:26:09even in private businesses on the basis
1:26:10of race fifty-five dollars for
1:26:14discriminating against Hispanics and
1:26:16blacks who had the same before it's like
1:26:19okay so then they
1:26:21that's a godown that would be a crisis
1:26:25that's a great example singular case
1:26:27where somebody gets punished they should
1:26:28be punished you know and by the way they
1:26:35should be able to do what they want then
1:26:38we would suggest is that these people
1:26:39just walk across the street to another
1:26:40bank that wasn't redlining them and then
1:26:42they should have gotten a better loan as
1:26:47an institution they did something bad
1:26:49and I think capitalism makes us go back
1:26:50again I've been discriminating against
1:26:52client is a very easy way for you to go
1:26:54bankrupt you mentioned that any legal
1:27:07rights are given to us to God but I've
1:27:10noticed that there's this argument to
1:27:11the contrary posited by political
1:27:13philosophy well Steiner in cases the
1:27:16following three things the will theory
1:27:18but interest theory and hopefully in
1:27:20deontological the will theory states
1:27:22that rights govern our choices and
1:27:25income from our choices but you have to
1:27:28make a choice or the POPPINS to make a
1:27:30choice then our rights in effectively be
1:27:33void the interest yacht's it's that we
1:27:36can join our rights but they can be
1:27:39affected by the breach or duty by the
1:27:41other part so somebody else is taking
1:27:43away our rights under the agency under
1:27:45papillion deontic logic there are four
1:27:48types of rights privileges claims
1:27:52Unity's all of those Kansas teachers are
1:27:55out and taken away at time do you have
1:27:57any news on this argument but would that
1:28:15said it's hard for me to take on an
1:28:17argument that I want to actually read
1:28:19more about before I think before I stake
1:28:20you know is this an argument based on so
1:28:24here's my basic question the reason that
1:28:26I say that rights are based on god-given
1:28:27rights is the idea that is long-held in
1:28:31the Western canon an accommodation of
1:28:32judeo-christian values Aristotelian
1:28:34philosophy that suggests that
1:28:36individuals have certain rights as a
1:28:38facet of their reason and that reason is
1:28:41originally provided by an unmoved mover
1:28:43all right so the idea the reason that
1:28:45that is important as opposed to an
1:28:47atheistic philosophy of right is it's
1:28:51very difficult for me to see why in a
1:28:52theistic velocity of right having
1:28:54offices sinaiticus velocity is it it has
1:28:58if you do it without reference to if you
1:29:02do with no reference to the inherent
1:29:04value of the human being then it certain
1:29:05certain people just fall by the wayside
1:29:07I mean even even the theory that your
1:29:10spouse's with me which again I'm only
1:29:11getting their bones minute you you even
1:29:14in that when you say you know for
1:29:15example well if you don't have the
1:29:16capacity to exercise well your rights
1:29:17all the way okay well there are a lot of
1:29:18people like children who don't really
1:29:20have the capacity to exercise totally
1:29:21their will
1:29:22do they have any rights at all is to
1:29:23have the right not to be killed Laius is
1:29:25different they have the right mentally
1:29:26abused to my knowledge to don't America
1:29:28is another huge developed countries
1:29:30right so children obviously have rights
1:29:33which is like No Child Protective
1:29:34Services that comes in and takes kids
1:29:35out of the Potomac their baby kids don't
1:29:38have the rights to control you know
1:29:39where they where they go to school they
1:29:41don't have the right to control a lot of
1:29:43a lot of things about their life but
1:29:45they certainly have basic human rights I
1:29:46mean that the entire society is built
1:29:48around the idea of basic human rights of
1:29:50children okay that's my question
1:29:54eliminate
1:30:00you know I didn't quite follow
1:30:04everything so kind of try to try to get
1:30:06up to speed with what's happening but I
1:30:08wanted to thank my son the senior place
1:30:10was the chairman of the lighting out the
1:30:12city we're over there
1:30:13he thrilled more things one that an
1:30:16attorney over to the podcasts I really
1:30:18enjoy listening to sound speech taking
1:30:24out some of the vulgarity but we're in a
1:30:27college yeah so nobody would understand
1:30:31me if I didn't drop the [ __ ] once
1:30:32it's live so so so my main question was
1:30:37going to be the role of the church in
1:30:39the founding of our nation our nation so
1:30:42great you being Jewish I'm a Christian
1:30:45through the mouth hollering society was
1:30:48able to get this print alive because
1:30:49they told my liberal because some
1:30:51follower of Jesus he was horrible human
1:30:55being I never walk the face beavers he
1:31:00helped people all that so
1:31:05one other day to Canada into this how
1:31:08you reconcile roll the church in in
1:31:11influencing culture I am also the fact
1:31:14that I did briefly grew up in California
1:31:17medium or liberal seat of our nation I
1:31:21moved into Tampa Florida
1:31:22for three and a half years work for
1:31:24Hillsborough County that are used to the
1:31:25whites-only bathroom while I was there
1:31:28in 1995 it wasn't being used as such but
1:31:34I don't know where was the colors or the
1:31:36whites but I asked fail if I didn't use
1:31:39the rest of law at the courthouse we
1:31:41said what we usually use the Lord
1:31:43there's no sign I'm gonna go there 1956
1:31:46years or 40s look across the hall there
1:31:49was as men's restroom a second ooh this
1:31:51is interesting
1:31:52I've never California living in the
1:31:54south so I walked across this hallway 19
1:31:57fixture making of these fixtures so I
1:32:00think kind of balancing out the fact
1:32:02that there is doing justices in our
1:32:04country
1:32:05ya can't go back and change them but you
1:32:08can tell those people that are living of
1:32:10the victimized mentality that look yes I
1:32:16think I understand because I use white
1:32:21color whatever but my wife through Cuba
1:32:28I really enjoyed it but so here's a
1:32:32couple of things as far as the role of
1:32:34the of the church in American society
1:32:36your first question my basic philosophy
1:32:38on this is that the government exists to
1:32:41preserve certain basic rights and then
1:32:42you have social institutions that need
1:32:44to provide the safety net for the rest
1:32:46of society so I'm very much for a strong
1:32:49Church in regards to communal life a
1:32:52minute along with synagogue activate
1:32:54that you fall on hard times then that
1:32:56means that the first thing that you need
1:32:57to do is go to your family and then the
1:32:58second thing you need to do is go to
1:33:00your church and then you go to your
1:33:01local community and then up the scale
1:33:03the problem that I see in society right
1:33:04now is that people go to the top of the
1:33:06scale the federal government they don't
1:33:07bother with anybody lower down on the
1:33:08scale which is why it's a consistent
1:33:10growth in the federal government
1:33:11judeo-christian values as I've said a
1:33:12thousand times are the root of the
1:33:14civilization and cannot be ripped away
1:33:16without collapses in civilizations on
1:33:18top of it as far as the the idea of the
1:33:22existence has passed racism in the
1:33:24United States of course I agree that's
1:33:26true and it says that you know obviously
1:33:29I agree that slavery and Jim Crow were
1:33:31some of the worst evils perpetrated by
1:33:33human beings I mean they're truly truly
1:33:35evil the question now is we have people
1:33:38who are living now who have not
1:33:39committed those sins to we some how do
1:33:42we punish them for the systems their
1:33:43fathers in other words it's the best
1:33:45thing to do to teach an entire
1:33:46generation of young black people for
1:33:48example that America is in a mall truly
1:33:50racist in all certainly bigoted and
1:33:52they're living in a country with such a
1:33:54brutal history of racist is that they
1:33:55cannot rise because that actually is
1:33:57false it's backwards it hurts that's
1:33:59that
1:34:00philosophy so you can understand why
1:34:02when people say listen I mean Esther
1:34:04Juju's had a long history of oppression
1:34:06also so that this is me but I think that
1:34:08anybody owes me anything and I don't
1:34:09think that it's appropriate to teach
1:34:11children that somebody owes you
1:34:12something as it's just a rule who have
1:34:14not done anything to you I think that if
1:34:15somebody's done something to you then
1:34:16they do owe you but if they do then they
1:34:19don't owe you anything and if you build
1:34:20the system based on you having to
1:34:22rectify the stakes that were made by our
1:34:23grandfather we're never gonna get beyond
1:34:25this we're never gonna get beyond this
1:34:26to you all sinned against each other's
1:34:28grandfather's like political economy I
1:34:53know you're a believer in the government
1:34:56like everything pretty much
1:34:58you're also a firm believer
1:35:01you know competition is good so
1:35:04wondering what are you thinking about
1:35:05role of like your credit institutions or
1:35:08regulatory bodies to protect competition
1:35:10for example sort of so when antitrust
1:35:23laws of these everything the vast
1:35:24majority of things that the government
1:35:25declares monopolies are not in fact
1:35:27monopolies the definition of monopolies
1:35:29is the ownership of a hundred percent of
1:35:30our picture which allows you to
1:35:32arbitrarily set prices and also to
1:35:34simply buy out all of your competitors
1:35:36lorries regulatory captured or prevent
1:35:38them entering the market I think the
1:35:40cases that are generally brought on
1:35:41antitrust grounds are very very weak
1:35:43because they're usually larger than the
1:35:45same industry so take an example they
1:35:47grow up at Microsoft Microsoft did not
1:35:48control a hundred percent of the market
1:35:50we believe in control
1:35:51seventy-five percent of our control
1:35:52selectivity percent market they broke
1:35:56anyway / - pizza

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