FULL INTERVIEW: Valentino Dixon talks about being a free man — Transcript
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- 0:01A few months ago Mhm. Where were we?
- 0:04In Wendy Correctional Facility. And you
- 0:05told me what? Told you that I was
- 0:07innocent
- 0:08of these charges.
- 0:10And um
- 0:12that I was just, you know, looking for
- 0:14justice.
- 0:15Hoping that justice came.
- 0:17You were very clear about talking about
- 0:20the injustices that you felt, you saw.
- 0:24And you couldn't understand
- 0:25why prosecutors at that point never
- 0:30would give you a hearing. What do you
- 0:31think changed?
- 0:33What what changed was John Flynn. You
- 0:35know, it's the it's it's all the
- 0:36difference in whatever
- 0:38DA is in at the time. Cuz we had three
- 0:41DAs that, you know, looked into this
- 0:43case and it didn't go anywhere. You
- 0:45know, John Flynn actually put some
- 0:47effort into trying to, you know,
- 0:49ascertain the truth and it made all the
- 0:51difference in the world. What do you
- 0:52think that new evidence was that really
- 0:54took it over the top? Well,
- 0:56basically interviewing the witnesses and
- 0:58getting down to what really happened
- 1:00here. It which never happened before.
- 1:03You know,
- 1:04I don't think the new evidence played
- 1:06such a big part as them more of them
- 1:08interviewing the witnesses
- 1:11extensively and then determining that he
- 1:13didn't do this crime.
- 1:15Lamar Scott, when he was in court before
- 1:17you got before you came in court,
- 1:19mentioned that he had the gun but the
- 1:21gun came from you.
- 1:22Mhm.
- 1:23You would you would agree with that.
- 1:27If you can't answer it, if you can't
- 1:28that's fine.
- 1:29So
- 1:30by him having his day, going before the
- 1:33court and saying something, what does
- 1:35that mean to you? Well, that's
- 1:37it means a lot. But let me just say
- 1:38this, Claudine. What what, you know,
- 1:41what's not settling to me is this,
- 1:43right?
- 1:44You a notary died and that's a bad thing
- 1:46for anybody to pass away. You know, but
- 1:49Aaron Jackson to this day is still
- 1:52stating that they it was a fist fight.
- 1:54You know, and that's not what happened
- 1:55out there. You know, these guys, you
- 1:57know, they made threats during the week,
- 1:59they pulled pulled out guns, you know,
- 2:02and then they came on the scene
- 2:03shooting.
- 2:04You know, and then said it was a fist
- 2:06fight after that, you know. And that's
- 2:08what's really bothering to me, you know.
- 2:11Um Do you want to see Aaron? No, I don't
- 2:13want to see Aaron because Aaron is never
- 2:15going to admit what happened here. You
- 2:17know, his brother passed away. I think
- 2:19he feels bad that he went home and got
- 2:20his brother and he's not going to admit
- 2:22that they went home and they came back
- 2:24shooting.
- 2:25You know, and that actually, you know,
- 2:27Lamar Scott had to run down the street
- 2:30to Mario's house to get the gun. You
- 2:32know, this goes to show you that, you
- 2:34know, whether it was Lamar, me, Leonard
- 2:37Brown, nobody wanted any problems. Okay?
- 2:40And when the first shots went off, I was
- 2:42in the store. You know, and I ran out of
- 2:44the store and I see these guys got the
- 2:46gun towards Mario. At the same time,
- 2:48Lamar is coming from Mario's house with
- 2:50the gun because they had the gun down
- 2:52the street, the gun was put up, you
- 2:54know, and he ran down the street to get
- 2:56the gun only to help Mario. You know,
- 2:58and this is facts and truths that's
- 3:00never came out, you know.
- 3:03So now what? Because you're coming back
- 3:06Mhm. to Buffalo. Right. You're going
- 3:08back to the same neighborhood. On your
- 3:10way to your mom's house, you're going to
- 3:11go past that same corner
- 3:14that landed you in prison. So how do you
- 3:17help?
- 3:18Well, when I how I help is is to try to
- 3:20reach these youths.
- 3:22Okay? And try to help with prison reform
- 3:24cuz there's been a lot of like prison
- 3:26rhetoric, you know, with prison reform
- 3:28and there's no solid um
- 3:31solution here. Okay? And my solution for
- 3:34prison reform is to reduce the
- 3:35sentencing laws. Okay? The sentencing
- 3:37laws are outrageous, especially in New
- 3:39York State. You're giving people double
- 3:41time, you know, for the littlest
- 3:44infraction, you know, like for example,
- 3:47O.J. Simpson in Nevada, they gave him 33
- 3:49years
- 3:51but he got out in 9 years.
- 3:53Okay? In New York State, there's none of
- 3:55that, you know, you don't get a day for
- 3:56a day or anything like that, you know,
- 3:58and you have 9,000 inmates that's over
- 4:01the age of 65, you know, that um
- 4:05a lot of them deserve their freedom.
- 4:07Okay? There's a man named John McKenzie
- 4:10who committed suicide. He was 70 years
- 4:12old because the parole board denied him
- 4:1310 times.
- 4:15Okay? And I've seen this over and over
- 4:18from countless individuals who is it's
- 4:20almost like the parole board in Albany
- 4:23and the politicians are trying to keep
- 4:25the numbers up. It's like it's a numbers
- 4:26game, you know, and um
- 4:30you know, it's sad, you know, because
- 4:32you know, in the process, you're in my
- 4:34opinion, you're violating people's civil
- 4:36rights, human rights, and constitutional
- 4:39rights.
- 4:39Did you ever think this day would come?
- 4:40Do you did you ever think you would get
- 4:42out?
- 4:42I always felt this day would come but I
- 4:44didn't know when.
- 4:46Okay? Because God always sent me the
- 4:48signs, you know. Every time I was in the
- 4:50funk or I felt like, you know, I can't
- 4:53do any go any longer, you know, God
- 4:57always sent somebody to help, a
- 4:59interview, a school, a lawyer, you know,
- 5:02some type of media outlet because the
- 5:04media, to be honest with you, was my
- 5:06only
- 5:07um
- 5:09Your avenue. Yeah, the only avenue to
- 5:11get my, you know, case out there, you
- 5:14know, the media, you know. When you were
- 5:16standing before the judge today and that
- 5:18judge said that you were basically
- 5:21exonerated right. What was that feeling
- 5:23like?
- 5:24Um
- 5:26I didn't see tears.
- 5:27I know. It it was mixed feelings, you
- 5:31know,
- 5:32uh because of the gun situation,
- 5:34you know, and um
- 5:37so I didn't know how to feel, you know.
- 5:39But I'm going to write the judge a
- 5:40letter and thank her, you know. Um
- 5:44I have to be grateful.
- 5:45No ifs, ands, or buts about it, you
- 5:47know. I'm going to write John Flynn a
- 5:49letter and thank him because, you know,
- 5:51not all DAs, judges, or prosecutors have
- 5:54the integrity or the honor to fix a
- 5:56situation that's wrong, you know, cuz
- 5:59it's looked down upon amongst colleagues
- 6:01in the office, you know, leave that case
- 6:03alone. Why are you even bothering with
- 6:05it? You know, and I know this is what
- 6:06they had to deal with and they're going
- 6:07to have to deal with it afterwards. So
- 6:10um
- 6:11I know that my goal is to all my
- 6:14supporters, all of these people that
- 6:16love me is to make them proud, you know.
- 6:19And
- 6:20I believe I'm going to do that, you
- 6:21know. But, you know, words where you
- 6:23know
- 6:25words are cheap, action is everything.
- 6:27Okay?
- 6:28Um
- 6:30And
- 6:31And I'm seeing your mom and your
- 6:32daughter to actually truly
- 6:35hug them and hold them and your
- 6:36grandkids.
- 6:37Describe that feeling.
- 6:38That's the best feeling in the world.
- 6:40You know, I just look forward to doing a
- 6:42lot of things that don't necessarily
- 6:44cost money but just spending time with
- 6:46them, you know. I like to cook so I'm
- 6:48going to do a lot of cooking, you know,
- 6:51and just spend quality time, you know,
- 6:52where it's the world is everybody's
- 6:54moving around so fast so they don't
- 6:56really have time to plant their feet
- 6:57nowhere, you know. And one thing I've
- 6:59I've I've I've I've observed is that I
- 7:02don't want to live that way, okay? You
- 7:04know, uh
- 7:06I'm going to devote a lot of time to my
- 7:08artwork. I'm going to get try to get a
- 7:10good gallery to manage me or back me.
- 7:13Then I can just spend time on artwork
- 7:15and then I can just spend time with the
- 7:16family. I don't have no desire to do
- 7:18nothing else.
- 7:20The past is the past.
- 7:21is the past, you know, no clubbing, none
- 7:24of that stuff, you know what I'm saying
- 7:25to me.
- 7:26You know, no, none of that stuff, you
- 7:27know.
- 7:28You know, I can't wait to go fishing
- 7:30with my daughters. I can't wait to have
- 7:31a barbecue and, you know, um
- 7:35so within the next
- 7:37week or so, we're going to get started.
- 7:39You know, one just one moment at a time.
- 7:42It's just trying to collect as many
- 7:43memories as possible. Anything else you
- 7:45want to say for now before we go?
- 7:46Um
- 7:47No, except for that our great governor
- 7:49because I do believe Cuomo is a good
- 7:51governor, you know, and if pushed
- 7:54or, you know, if
- 7:56if with the right support, if the if the
- 7:58prison advocates could just come
- 8:00together and put the egos aside, you
- 8:02know, I believe that he will pass some
- 8:04type of bill, you know, to make, you
- 8:06know, it better or more fair in New York
- 8:11State because the sentencing laws are
- 8:13too harsh and too excessive, you know,
- 8:15and
- 8:16Yeah. Yeah, and I want to be able to
- 8:17appeal to him, you know, and
- 8:20I really want to be able to bring people
- 8:22together, you know, so we can be one
- 8:24solid structure because, you know, you
- 8:27have a lot of people spread out and
- 8:29nothing is getting accomplished, you
- 8:30know.
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