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  1. 0:05The Dragon Duo, I'm Chen Er-long.
  2. 0:07>> I'm Chen Pang.
  3. 0:08>> I’m here to set the trend.
  4. 0:09>> I’m here to follow the trend,
  5. 0:11>> so you don't lose your way. Alright,
  6. 0:12now there are actually several major
  7. 0:14world events waiting for the conclusion
  8. 0:16of a few elections. Of course, after
  9. 0:19the Israeli parliamentary election
  10. 0:21concludes tonight, it might not be
  11. 0:23settled immediately. Because Israeli
  12. 0:27elections are unique, once the voting
  13. 0:29is over, small parties abound. So,
  14. 0:32through various alliances, which party
  15. 0:34will ultimately lead, and who will be
  16. 0:36the final Prime Minister? As things
  17. 0:40stand, we are watching to see if
  18. 0:42Netanyahu can continue to be re-elected
  19. 0:44. Additionally, the November 3rd
  20. 0:47midterms, US time, will actually have a
  21. 0:49significant impact on the world as well
  22. 0:52. Well, let’s start with the US
  23. 0:56midterms, as everyone is concerned
  24. 0:57about the House and Senate—whether
  25. 0:59the Democrats will lead or the
  26. 1:01Republicans can maintain their lead.
  27. 1:06But no one has really considered that
  28. 1:07after the November 3rd election
  29. 1:09concludes, Trump might just be getting
  30. 1:11ready to flex his muscles on the
  31. 1:12international stage. At that point,
  32. 1:20including the China-US-Russia summit,
  33. 1:22the conflict between the US and Iran,
  34. 1:24the Russia-Ukraine war, and also the
  35. 1:26situation in the Taiwan Strait, will
  36. 1:28all of these become the most focused
  37. 1:30topics after the US election? We have
  38. 1:38invited two guests today; the first is
  39. 1:40General Shuai Hua-ming.
  40. 1:43>> Hello, everyone.
  41. 1:44>> Alright, moving on, the second guest is
  42. 1:46Han Bing, who is joining our show for
  43. 1:48the first time. Hello, Han.
  44. 1:50>> Hello, host, and hello everyone. Right,
  45. 1:52let’s start with the US election.
  46. 1:55Will the US Congress change? So, this
  47. 1:59situation might affect several of
  48. 2:01Trump’s key foreign policies moving
  49. 2:03forward. Of course, these foreign
  50. 2:07policies involve the US House of
  51. 2:09Representatives. If the Democrats win
  52. 2:13the majority, they could block Trump on
  53. 2:15budget issues, but most of these
  54. 2:17diplomatic powers are still in Trump's
  55. 2:19hands. So, how should we view the
  56. 2:23impact of this congressional shift on
  57. 2:25Trump’s foreign policy? It is now
  58. 2:29certain that Trump will likely lose
  59. 2:31control of the House, meaning he will
  60. 2:32lose control of the budget. However,
  61. 2:36regarding the Senate, there is now over
  62. 2:39a 60%chance he will lose control, yet
  63. 2:41there is still about a 30%to 40%chance
  64. 2:44he can hold onto it. How will this part
  65. 2:47affect his "three-way split" of power
  66. 2:49later on? Indeed, we are observing
  67. 2:51several critical developments involving
  68. 2:54the U.S., Russia, and Ukraine, foremost
  69. 2:56being the ongoing war. Now, a
  70. 2:58tripartite discussion between the U.S.,
  71. 3:00Russia, and Ukraine has been confirmed.
  72. 3:02Since both Russia and Ukraine have
  73. 3:04confirmed, the timing will likely be in
  74. 3:06early November, immediately following
  75. 3:08the U.S. congressional elections. At
  76. 3:13the same time, we see Zelenskyy
  77. 3:15starting to set conditions, though I am
  78. 3:17uncertain whether he can truly
  79. 3:19negotiate, as he says, "If I cannot
  80. 3:21recover my current territory in the
  81. 3:23short term, I would accept a temporary
  82. 3:25freeze." But then he follows up by
  83. 3:29saying, "I absolutely cannot give up my
  84. 3:31land." This inconsistency raises the
  85. 3:34question of how much he can secure for
  86. 3:36Ukraine's interests, which remains a
  87. 3:38point to watch in this war.
  88. 3:42Additionally, regarding the situation
  89. 3:44between the U.S. and Iran, we hear that
  90. 3:46the U.S. military has prepared plans
  91. 3:48for a large-scale strike on Iran, and
  92. 3:50Trump may order it after the midterms.
  93. 3:56Recently, reports from sources like CNN
  94. 3:58and the New York Times suggest that
  95. 4:00once the midterms are over, Trump will
  96. 4:02take decisive action against Iran.
  97. 4:08However, this potential action also
  98. 4:10depends on observing the post-election
  99. 4:12situation in Israel to determine what
  100. 4:14the reality on the ground will be.
  101. 4:21Meanwhile, Tehran—or Iran—has taken
  102. 4:23the lead by inviting Pakistan, Turkey,
  103. 4:26and Saudi Arabia—three nations
  104. 4:28involved in the Abraham Accords—to
  105. 4:30Tehran for discussions. What are they
  106. 4:36discussing? Theoretically, it likely
  107. 4:38isn't about U.S.-Iran relations, but
  108. 4:40perhaps they are discussing Saudi
  109. 4:42Arabia and the Houthi organization in
  110. 4:45Yemen? So, what is the result?
  111. 4:47According to Ali Shamkhani, Secretary
  112. 4:49of Iran's Supreme National Security
  113. 4:51Council, they reached a consensus that
  114. 4:53regional security should be the
  115. 4:55responsibility of the nations in this
  116. 4:57region. What does this signify?
  117. 5:00Furthermore, the probability of a
  118. 5:02China-U.S. -Russia summit being held in
  119. 5:07Shenzhen is increasing, as Russia has
  120. 5:09signaled that mainland China has also
  121. 5:11begun to adopt a more proactive stance.
  122. 5:17Just at this moment, we see Trump
  123. 5:19lashing out at Taiwan again, claiming
  124. 5:21that Taiwan stole his chip industry.
  125. 5:25How should we view this? Will this
  126. 5:29election change Trump's diplomatic
  127. 5:31agenda, or will his agenda officially
  128. 5:33commence after the election concludes?
  129. 5:37>> Essentially, this election dictates his
  130. 5:39control over the budget. And control
  131. 5:41over the budget determines whether his
  132. 5:43military expansion plans face
  133. 5:45challenges.
  134. 5:45>> Hmm.
  135. 5:46>> Trump won't be much constrained when it
  136. 5:48comes to diplomatic power. Because the
  137. 5:50power of the U.S. President is quite
  138. 5:52vast, and he has never been one to
  139. 5:54admit defeat; he even stirred up
  140. 5:56trouble during the last congressional
  141. 5:58election. You see, he's already laying
  142. 6:00the groundwork now, claiming that two
  143. 6:02people with the same name on a ballot
  144. 6:04could cause issues.
  145. 6:05>> Oh, he is Alaska-ing.
  146. 6:07>> Yes, he's just laying the groundwork.
  147. 6:10Second, regarding his personality, I
  148. 6:12don't think he will follow the
  149. 6:13tradition of U.S. Presidents respecting
  150. 6:16the opinions of the two houses of
  151. 6:18Congress, so I suspect he might take
  152. 6:20shortcuts on tariffs, and that won't
  153. 6:22stop. The point isn't here, so what is
  154. 6:25the point? What does the United States
  155. 6:27want? And what does China want? What
  156. 6:30does Russia want?
  157. 6:35>> This tripartite meeting is the main
  158. 6:37event; as for Israel's elections, as
  159. 6:39long as it's not Netanyahu, no new
  160. 6:40leader would advocate for a joint
  161. 6:42strike with the U.S. that is like an
  162. 6:44epoch-making attack. Because military
  163. 6:50personnel are always like this:
  164. 6:51regardless of whether there are orders
  165. 6:53to fight or not, my operational plans
  166. 6:55must be ready.
  167. 6:57>> Mm.
  168. 7:00>> Therefore, the U.S. Department of
  169. 7:02Defense definitely has plans for an
  170. 7:03attack on Iran, but the inherent
  171. 7:05limitation is that the Army cannot
  172. 7:07intervene, so it relies on the Navy and
  173. 7:09Air Force, whose strength hasn't
  174. 7:10increased significantly, and their
  175. 7:12ammunition reserves aren't enough to
  176. 7:14support a so-called epoch-making mass
  177. 7:15bombardment. It's very likely that
  178. 7:20after putting on a show, Trump will
  179. 7:21declare victory and withdraw; whether
  180. 7:23this withdrawal happens depends on the
  181. 7:25tripartite meeting. Because everyone
  182. 7:28enters the tripartite meeting with
  183. 7:30different themes in mind. The U.S. says
  184. 7:32, "In this tripartite meeting, the
  185. 7:34first item is to discuss nuclear arms
  186. 7:36limitation negotiations." This is
  187. 7:38impossible; only you and Russia would
  188. 7:40sign it, China definitely won't sign it
  189. 7:42with you. You and Russia have five or
  190. 7:45six thousand nuclear warheads, while
  191. 7:47China has fewer than 1,000; if you
  192. 7:49limit me, how can I maintain a nuclear
  193. 7:51balance in the future? So, this is the
  194. 7:55U.S.'s entry ticket that is announced
  195. 7:57publicly, but the secret meetings
  196. 7:59internally likely involve much more
  197. 8:01than that; Russia wants to end the
  198. 8:03Russia-Ukraine war immediately, lift
  199. 8:04all sanctions, and allow Russian oil to
  200. 8:06sell globally so they can recover their
  201. 8:08economy. Moreover, there is still room
  202. 8:13for negotiation with the U.S. regarding
  203. 8:15the ceasefire conditions. The U.S.
  204. 8:17certainly hopes for a ceasefire in the
  205. 8:19Russia-Ukraine war now. If it doesn't
  206. 8:23stop, their energy crisis will continue
  207. 8:25, so this is the moment for the U.S.
  208. 8:27and Russia to decide the future status
  209. 8:29of Zelenskyy and Ukraine; Ukraine
  210. 8:30doesn't really have any bargaining
  211. 8:32conditions. Realistically, you can't
  212. 8:37force Russia to retreat from the
  213. 8:39territories it occupies.
  214. 8:41>> Mm.
  215. 8:42>> As for the 20%that isn't occupied, it's
  216. 8:45up to Ukraine whether it wants to let
  217. 8:47it go. Perhaps Russia will concede, not
  218. 8:49by declaring it Russian territory.
  219. 8:53Letting Donetsk become an independent
  220. 8:55state, these are all matters for
  221. 8:56negotiation. Mainland China has only
  222. 8:59one issue, which is the Taiwan issue.
  223. 9:03So, you see, why did Trump talk about
  224. 9:05Taiwan stealing its chips before
  225. 9:07leaving?
  226. 9:10>> Why at that time?
  227. 9:12>> Because if you want Trump to say "I
  228. 9:14abandon Taiwan" or "I oppose Taiwan
  229. 9:16independence" before the election, he
  230. 9:19can't say it. This would affect the
  231. 9:22Republican and Democratic elections, so
  232. 9:24he was vague; privately he might say he
  233. 9:26doesn't support it, but publicly he
  234. 9:28never said it. Now the election is over
  235. 9:32and the dust has settled, the "no-worse
  236. 9:34" scenario is just like this. Now that
  237. 9:37Mainland China demands you state you
  238. 9:38don't support Taiwan independence, he
  239. 9:40might loosen his stance. Otherwise, for
  240. 9:42China, it's like: you come to my place
  241. 9:45for a meeting, what do I get out of it?
  242. 9:49The third theme for China is economic
  243. 9:50and trade, as I want global trade; so
  244. 9:52the basic agendas of the three
  245. 9:54countries meeting are quite different.
  246. 9:58That is to reach a compromise within
  247. 10:00this meeting. Where to concede, where
  248. 10:02to push—some things are done without
  249. 10:04being said, some are said without being
  250. 10:06done; this is the result of a
  251. 10:07tripartite meeting. But the three
  252. 10:10countries partitioning the world's
  253. 10:12spheres of influence must already have
  254. 10:14a tacit understanding: you don't touch
  255. 10:16my area, and I don't touch yours. These
  256. 10:20three will surely reach a framework
  257. 10:22agreement privately, whether it's
  258. 10:23verbal or something else. As for the
  259. 10:29issues involving Iran, Saudi Arabia,
  260. 10:31and the Houthis, Turkey and Pakistan
  261. 10:33have so far remained at the level of
  262. 10:35protecting Saudi security. They haven't
  263. 10:40sent troops to engage the Houthis, and
  264. 10:42the Saudi air force and the Yemeni
  265. 10:44government forces have fought for a
  266. 10:45long time without a result. Now, it's
  267. 10:49rather the movements of the Houthis and
  268. 10:51Iran that matter. Iran's stance is: if
  269. 10:54you continue to act like that. My next
  270. 10:58step will be all AI equipment in Gulf
  271. 11:00countries. Even cutting fiber optics;
  272. 11:06so this interacts with the U.S. strike,
  273. 11:08you will pay the price.
  274. 11:11>> Are the Gulf countries willing to
  275. 11:13accept this? You, the U.S., can do it.
  276. 11:15>> But if you act this way, Gulf countries
  277. 11:17...
  278. 11:17>> It is the Gulf countries that suffer
  279. 11:19the losses. My AI is hit, oil pipelines
  280. 11:22and refining equipment, my property
  281. 11:24losses are immeasurable; so the U.S.
  282. 11:26must consider the needs of the Gulf
  283. 11:28states before deciding whether to
  284. 11:29launch a major attack on Iran. Because
  285. 11:35Iran has also shown its hand: if you
  286. 11:37launch a strike, I will bomb all the
  287. 11:39Gulf countries, so the U.S. military
  288. 11:41bases in the Gulf are now vulnerable.
  289. 11:46Countries like Saudi Arabia, Bahrain,
  290. 11:48and Qatar have completely lost
  291. 11:50confidence in your protection, so the
  292. 11:52U.S. must consider diplomatically
  293. 11:54whether bombing Iran means losing
  294. 11:55Middle Eastern trust and reliance
  295. 11:57forever. This is a question the U.S.
  296. 12:01has to weigh.
  297. 12:03>> So, General, do you think that despite
  298. 12:05all the reports suggesting the U.S.
  299. 12:07military is preparing for a
  300. 12:08larger-scale attack on Iran, it will
  301. 12:11likely turn out to be all thunder and
  302. 12:13no rain?
  303. 12:14>> Of course, just think about it. If you
  304. 12:16want to take action against Iran to
  305. 12:18solve the problem, if you don't send in
  306. 12:19the Army, all you're doing is bombing;
  307. 12:21their military and nuclear facilities
  308. 12:23are all underground.
  309. 12:24>> And right now, there’s no sign that
  310. 12:26the U.S. can mobilize its ground forces
  311. 12:27.
  312. 12:27>> No, because for the U.S. Army to
  313. 12:29mobilize—I participated in many
  314. 12:30studies back then. Preparing to fight
  315. 12:32Iraq took six months.
  316. 12:34>> Uh-huh.
  317. 12:35>> Because the U.S. regular military
  318. 12:37cannot tolerate heavy casualties, and
  319. 12:39to invade a land-based country, they
  320. 12:41prepared 580,000 troops for Iraq. How
  321. 12:45many would you need to mobilize to
  322. 12:46fight Iran today? Currently, the total
  323. 12:49U.S. garrison across all bases in the
  324. 12:51Gulf is less than 50,000. I ask you,
  325. 12:54where are the backup troops?
  326. 12:56>> Because the U.S. military is very
  327. 12:58cautious about overseas operations, its
  328. 13:01standing army isn't large, and its
  329. 13:03garrisons are even smaller. They must
  330. 13:06mobilize the National Guard and all
  331. 13:08Reserve components, then send them to
  332. 13:11Fort Irwin for live-fire exercises, as
  333. 13:13they don't usually have many
  334. 13:14opportunities.
  335. 13:15>> Joint live-fire exercises for all three
  336. 13:17branches.
  337. 13:18>> It's essentially pre-war training.
  338. 13:20>> They must train before heading out.
  339. 13:21When you go to a Middle Eastern country
  340. 13:23, you have to be taught everything—
  341. 13:25whether to eat with your right hand or
  342. 13:27left hand, how to use the restroom,
  343. 13:29even how many liters of water to drink
  344. 13:30a day is strictly regulated.
  345. 13:32>> Because it involves the climate.
  346. 13:34>> Yes, that’s called theater life and
  347. 13:36climate adjustment, which takes a month
  348. 13:38. So that adds up to five months, plus
  349. 13:40sea transport of troops takes at least
  350. 13:42another month.
  351. 13:43>> So, if you look at this issue, the
  352. 13:45current rhetoric simply cannot be
  353. 13:47backed up by their capabilities. So,
  354. 13:49regarding the air and naval strikes,
  355. 13:51you already carried out an "epic"
  356. 13:53attack last time; how much ammunition
  357. 13:55do you have left? Of course, the
  358. 13:57Department of Defense and every
  359. 13:59official has to say, "I can support
  360. 14:00Trump in launching a major war." We
  361. 14:02should pragmatically calculate how much
  362. 14:04ammunition you have and how much your
  363. 14:06navy and air force have remaining.
  364. 14:07>> How many troops do you really have left
  365. 14:09at your Gulf bases? Aside from your
  366. 14:13trump cards like the B-2 and B-1
  367. 14:14long-range strategic bombers, you
  368. 14:16really don't have much else, and not
  369. 14:18much chance of success. So, what the
  370. 14:24President says and what the Department
  371. 14:26of Defense says may appear consistent
  372. 14:28on the surface, but having a wish
  373. 14:29doesn't mean you can achieve it. Your
  374. 14:33expectations do not equate to your
  375. 14:34capabilities. Alright, so Hanbing, we
  376. 14:37see that regarding these three areas,
  377. 14:39everyone is actually just waiting for
  378. 14:41the U.S. congressional elections to
  379. 14:43conclude. Once the results are clear,
  380. 14:45Trump will likely have a better sense
  381. 14:47of what he can accomplish regarding
  382. 14:49both domestic and international issues.
  383. 14:52He is waiting, but in this process of
  384. 14:54waiting, a China-U.S. -Russia summit
  385. 14:58now seems almost certain, with a
  386. 15:00probability of over 80%, because the
  387. 15:02message recently released by Russia is
  388. 15:04that mainland China has become more
  389. 15:07proactive. So Russia is the most
  390. 15:10proactive, the U.S. is cooperating, and
  391. 15:12if mainland China is now willing as
  392. 15:14well, then it looks like there is a
  393. 15:16very high chance. However, there are
  394. 15:18three main issues: the Russia-Ukraine
  395. 15:19war comes first, with the U.S., Russia,
  396. 15:21and Ukraine talking first, because
  397. 15:22Ukraine said if you want to talk, then
  398. 15:24I might as well talk with you all first
  399. 15:26. As for the Iran issue, General Shu
  400. 15:28analyzed it the most clearly just now.
  401. 15:30The U.S. talks tough on the surface,
  402. 15:32but if you take stock of the military
  403. 15:34situation, you realize they are
  404. 15:36completely powerless to act. Therefore,
  405. 15:38regarding Iran, in the aftermath, one
  406. 15:40can only let it slowly wind down.
  407. 15:42Although we see tension recently, Iran
  408. 15:44now looks calm and composed. Beyond
  409. 15:47verbal threats, they can even mediate
  410. 15:49between Saudi Arabia and the Houthis,
  411. 15:52which shows that Iran currently has an
  412. 15:54air of confidence. Ironically, the
  413. 15:56quietest place is the Taiwan Strait. So
  414. 15:58, how do you evaluate the possible
  415. 16:00foreign strategies and tactics Trump
  416. 16:02might adopt after this U.S. midterm
  417. 16:05election? In fact, it currently looks
  418. 16:07like the world is gradually heading
  419. 16:09toward a point where the U.S., China,
  420. 16:11and Russia are starting to reconstruct
  421. 16:13a new international order and landscape
  422. 16:15. There was even news today suggesting
  423. 16:17that the U.S., Russia, and mainland
  424. 16:19China are preparing to jointly nominate
  425. 16:21Hungarian Prime Minister Orbán for UN
  426. 16:24Secretary-General. This is very
  427. 16:25outrageous; in the past, many people
  428. 16:28would have found it unthinkable. Right,
  429. 16:31and for the UN Secretary-General
  430. 16:32position, they have already gone
  431. 16:34through many rounds of mock voting
  432. 16:36internally.
  433. 16:37>> Yes, yes, yes. So the U.S. side now
  434. 16:40believes that if Orbán is put forward
  435. 16:42and China and Russia also support him,
  436. 16:44he could get at least 8 to 10 votes.
  437. 16:46With a total of only 15 Security
  438. 16:48Council members, that would basically
  439. 16:50be enough to pass. Who could have
  440. 16:52imagined in the past that they would
  441. 16:54actually join forces to push a person
  442. 16:56like Orbán forward? Bennett is someone
  443. 16:58we all know; to a certain extent, he's
  444. 17:00a bit like Trump, and he’s also
  445. 17:02fiercely independent. Yes, exactly, so
  446. 17:04you’d find it incredible that the
  447. 17:06U.S. actually agreed to such a thing.
  448. 17:08So, has Trump already held in-depth
  449. 17:10consultations with Putin and Xi Jinping
  450. 17:13, deciding that the future will be
  451. 17:15determined by our three countries,
  452. 17:17casting aside past conventions and
  453. 17:19organizations to just get things done?
  454. 17:22If that’s the case, many
  455. 17:23considerations of interest and the
  456. 17:25international landscape would likely be
  457. 17:27quite different. You can see that Trump
  458. 17:29still supports Netanyahu, hoping he can
  459. 17:31continue and get re-elected, but
  460. 17:33Netanyahu’s re-election is a tough
  461. 17:35fight. Why? Current estimates generally
  462. 17:37put his chance of re-election at 26%to
  463. 17:4029%.
  464. 17:40>> That’s actually not a very high
  465. 17:42probability.
  466. 17:43>> However, the opposition coalition also
  467. 17:46lacks the clear path to an outright
  468. 17:48victory, so the final outcome might
  469. 17:50depend on subsequent alliances formed
  470. 17:52after the election. We aren’t certain
  471. 17:55about this right now, but it’s
  472. 17:57generally considered unlikely. With
  473. 17:59Trump stepping in now, I honestly
  474. 18:01wonder if he realizes whether his
  475. 18:03endorsement is an antidote or a poison
  476. 18:05for Netanyahu. This is actually hard to
  477. 18:07say. Why? Because recently, Trump has
  478. 18:09been touring the U.S. to campaign. But
  479. 18:11his own approval rating is only just
  480. 18:13over 30%. Under these circumstances,
  481. 18:15whether his involvement is good or bad
  482. 18:17is really hard to say. I feel the whole
  483. 18:21situation is very strange, and I
  484. 18:23personally think Trump knows deep down
  485. 18:25that the midterms might not go as he
  486. 18:27expects, so he’s likely preparing—
  487. 18:29for instance, by claiming he might
  488. 18:31launch a new round of bombing against
  489. 18:33Iran after the midterms. But as General
  490. 18:37Shui just analyzed, regardless of your
  491. 18:39troop numbers there or your ammunition
  492. 18:41reserves, and to put it bluntly,
  493. 18:43you’ve already withdrawn your B-1
  494. 18:45bombers back to the U.S. That's right.
  495. 18:47>> So, how much capacity do you really
  496. 18:49have to bomb Iran? It’s likely that
  497. 18:51even if he does, it will just be a
  498. 18:53superficial, symbolic gesture—a way
  499. 18:55to say, "I bombed them, I didn't just
  500. 18:57sit by." Instead, Iran has become more
  501. 18:59aggressive lately; they announced a
  502. 19:01while ago, "Don't mess around, or I'll
  503. 19:04cut your undersea cables directly."
  504. 19:06Yeah, and now the US talks about
  505. 19:07attacking Iran, and Iran immediately
  506. 19:09says that seven Middle Eastern
  507. 19:11countries will become its targets.
  508. 19:12>> Mm-hmm.
  509. 19:13>> So it turns out that Iran actually
  510. 19:15looks stronger than the US, and in this
  511. 19:17situation, I personally think for Trump
  512. 19:20, he might need Putin to help him deal
  513. 19:22with the Iran problem. And regarding
  514. 19:25Ukraine, does it now mean that Putin
  515. 19:27would really want an immediate
  516. 19:28ceasefire? I’m afraid that’s not
  517. 19:31necessarily the case. Why? Zelenskyy
  518. 19:33might want a quick ceasefire because he
  519. 19:34knows Europe is currently dealing with
  520. 19:36its own backyard fires, and the US
  521. 19:37doesn't seem willing to help him. He
  522. 19:39might hope that instead of letting this
  523. 19:41drag on, it would be better to
  524. 19:43negotiate a result now, but for Putin,
  525. 19:44if you are only willing to freeze the
  526. 19:46conflict, that’s not necessarily what
  527. 19:48I want.
  528. 19:49>> He thinks it’s not enough.
  529. 19:50>> Right, he might want more. So I don’t
  530. 19:52think Putin is necessarily willing to
  531. 19:54stop right now. As for mainland China,
  532. 19:56in principle, it doesn't intervene in
  533. 19:58the Middle East or in Russia-Ukraine.
  534. 19:59But for them, they also hope to gain
  535. 20:01maximum benefits for China during this
  536. 20:03process, at least by elevating their
  537. 20:05international status further. So I
  538. 20:06think the three-party meeting in
  539. 20:08Shenzhen, although the Chinese side
  540. 20:10hasn't confirmed it yet, it’s
  541. 20:12probably almost certain. It should be.
  542. 20:14For China, this is also an opportunity,
  543. 20:16and since it’s on their home turf,
  544. 20:18they can play it better. So I
  545. 20:20personally believe China would want to
  546. 20:22take this opportunity to establish a
  547. 20:24mechanism with Russia and the US to
  548. 20:26potentially dominate the future
  549. 20:27direction of the world. If that happens
  550. 20:31, I would be very worried. Why? Because
  551. 20:33when we listen to what Trump says, he
  552. 20:35claims that if it weren’t for past
  553. 20:37presidents being stupid, if the US had
  554. 20:39a smart president, there would be no
  555. 20:41problems between mainland China and
  556. 20:43Taiwan at all. What does that mean?
  557. 20:45Actually, I specifically noted it after
  558. 20:47he called Taiwan a chip thief. So what
  559. 20:49does that mean? It means that if the US
  560. 20:51hadn't let Taiwan produce chips in the
  561. 20:53first place. Then he could discard
  562. 20:55Taiwan at any time, and that is a
  563. 20:56terrifying thought. Of course, I
  564. 20:58don’t know if that’s what he meant,
  565. 21:00but the fact that he said it makes me
  566. 21:02very worried. So how he thinks is one
  567. 21:05thing, but through his thoughts and the
  568. 21:07words he says, he has already given us
  569. 21:09many reasons to worry about how he
  570. 21:11views the cross-strait situation. It
  571. 21:13seems that regarding the status quo of
  572. 21:15the cross-strait issue, he is actually
  573. 21:17more inclined toward Beijing. It really
  574. 21:19looks like he has been well-educated by
  575. 21:21Xi Jinping, doesn't it?
  576. 21:22>> Did you just say that? What he said
  577. 21:25before was to deal with the issues of
  578. 21:26the Republicans and Democrats.
  579. 21:29>> Now he is saying that Taiwan stole my
  580. 21:31chips. And the next sentence, which he
  581. 21:33hasn't said yet, is that I’ve already
  582. 21:35moved Taiwan’s chips back to the U.S.
  583. 21:37, TSMC is back, and they are continuing
  584. 21:39to return. So what value is left for
  585. 21:41Taiwan? Nothingness, there’s nothing
  586. 21:43left.
  587. 21:44>> If you’re talking about using them to
  588. 21:47exhaust mainland China, Taiwan's
  589. 21:48military forces are just not up to the
  590. 21:50task. He has already shifted his focus
  591. 21:53to Japan; as for Taiwan, he's now
  592. 21:55charging you for arms sales and TSMC
  593. 21:57continues to relocate. Once that’s
  594. 22:01finished, you’ll have no significance
  595. 22:03to the U.S., so he is slowly dissolving
  596. 22:05the momentum of Republican and
  597. 22:07Democratic support for Taiwan. So many
  598. 22:11things were said but not done, and now
  599. 22:14things are said but he won’t act, or
  600. 22:16his next move...arms sales are just a
  601. 22:18fishing float. So, we see these three
  602. 22:23aspects, including Ukraine, which I
  603. 22:25think is the most transparent. As for
  604. 22:29the U.S. and Iran, it’s more of an
  605. 22:31ongoing public matter that everyone is
  606. 22:33aware of, with a lot of rhetoric, but
  607. 22:35the substantive actions don't
  608. 22:36necessarily align with the rhetoric.
  609. 22:40However, what’s actually hidden
  610. 22:41beneath the surface is Taiwan, because
  611. 22:43he can't say it before the election,
  612. 22:45but that doesn't mean Trump won't do it
  613. 22:47after the election. So, Xianglin, how
  614. 22:50do you see this election? What kind of
  615. 22:53impact will it have on Trump's
  616. 22:55diplomatic strategy? Actually, what I
  617. 22:58just mentioned about China, the U.S.,
  618. 23:00and Russia currently brewing a plan to
  619. 23:02nominate the former Hungarian prime
  620. 23:04minister for UN Secretary-General is
  621. 23:06quite alarming. I don't think the
  622. 23:11probability is high, because currently,
  623. 23:13for those who have been nominated, I
  624. 23:15recall there have already been five or
  625. 23:17six rounds of voting, and according to
  626. 23:19regional consensus, it should be Latin
  627. 23:21America's turn this time. So, it’s
  628. 23:26hard to imagine it being the Hungarian
  629. 23:28candidate. But with Trump, in this
  630. 23:30world, never say never. Feng-hsin
  631. 23:33mentioned a key point: the current UN
  632. 23:36Secretary-General, Guterres, is of
  633. 23:38Portuguese descent.
  634. 23:40>> Hmm.
  635. 23:41>> That is an unwritten rule of the UN
  636. 23:43that everyone follows—the rotation
  637. 23:45among regions. You can see that all the
  638. 23:49contenders now are almost entirely from
  639. 23:51Latin America. For this UN
  640. 23:54Secretary-General selection, besides
  641. 23:56focusing on Latin America...And
  642. 23:58secondly, it must be a woman. So, the
  643. 24:02direction of electing a Latin American
  644. 24:04woman is more or less set. So, whenever
  645. 24:07there’s a race for UN
  646. 24:09Secretary-General, the same issue
  647. 24:11always comes up. These five permanent
  648. 24:13members each have their own interests,
  649. 24:15and they just dig in their heels until
  650. 24:17the very end, when they finally try to
  651. 24:19coordinate. But in the end, there will
  652. 24:21always be someone, though it definitely
  653. 24:23won’t be the Australian one. No,
  654. 24:25because the voting process there is
  655. 24:26interesting. There are 15 council
  656. 24:29members: the five permanent members
  657. 24:31plus nine non-permanent members, but
  658. 24:34the permanent members have veto power.
  659. 24:36>> Yeah, exactly. That’s why I’m
  660. 24:38saying it ultimately comes down to
  661. 24:40those permanent members. Either you
  662. 24:42cast an abstention, or you coordinate
  663. 24:44to come up with an acceptable candidate
  664. 24:46. But, as I’ve said before, I don’t
  665. 24:49analyze Trump because Trump is a talk
  666. 24:51show host. He basically has to ensure
  667. 24:55there’s a punchline every minute to
  668. 24:57keep the audience entertained. But once
  669. 25:00the fun is over, you know, what a talk
  670. 25:02show host says really isn't that
  671. 25:04important. Only in Taiwan do people
  672. 25:06take it so seriously; elsewhere, it’s
  673. 25:09mostly not the point. Trump maintains
  674. 25:12that tone, but we must not
  675. 25:13underestimate the shift in America’s
  676. 25:15political atmosphere. The political
  677. 25:18climate has changed significantly. In
  678. 25:21the past, for every leader, regardless
  679. 25:23of who they were, the midterm election
  680. 25:25was almost certainly going to be a loss
  681. 25:28. As for leaders who didn't lose the
  682. 25:30midterms, Clinton’s second term is
  683. 25:32about the only one. The others,
  684. 25:34basically, they either lost big or they
  685. 25:36lost small.
  686. 25:39>> Right, so after losing the majority in
  687. 25:41the Senate or House, there wasn't a
  688. 25:43huge shock because, in the past, you
  689. 25:45didn’t see such aggressive American
  690. 25:47leaders. Moreover, the two chambers
  691. 25:52weren't as sharply polarized in the
  692. 25:54past, and the two parties weren't so
  693. 25:56divided that even some bipartisan bills
  694. 25:58couldn't pass. That didn't happen
  695. 26:02before, but in the Trump era, it does.
  696. 26:04>> Mm. Trump’s own personality has
  697. 26:08completely polarized American two-party
  698. 26:10politics, making it difficult for the
  699. 26:12bipartisan establishment to function.
  700. 26:16In the past, the establishment could be
  701. 26:18effective because it had the ability to
  702. 26:20secure votes across party lines within
  703. 26:22the two-party system. That’s why he
  704. 26:26calls it the "deep state"—because it
  705. 26:28was able to operate across party lines
  706. 26:30in Congress. But with Trump's
  707. 26:34personality, it will become
  708. 26:35increasingly difficult for him to
  709. 26:37operate across party lines in Congress.
  710. 26:41We cannot underestimate that after this
  711. 26:43election, Trump's personality will lead
  712. 26:45to two things; the first is a split
  713. 26:47within the Republican Party. Because
  714. 26:52some of the candidates he strongly
  715. 26:53pushed and favored are currently not
  716. 26:55polling well. Right.
  717. 26:58>> Including places like Ohio or Texas. In
  718. 27:02Ohio, Ramaswamy, who we mentioned
  719. 27:04before, competed against Trump for the
  720. 27:06presidential nomination and is an
  721. 27:08important Indian-American donor for the
  722. 27:11GOP. He’s young and from the tech
  723. 27:14industry, but he is currently trailing
  724. 27:16far behind; it doesn’t look like he
  725. 27:18has much of a chance to win. It’s the
  726. 27:21same in Texas, because these are people
  727. 27:23Trump handpicked, so it will lead to a
  728. 27:25split in the Republican Party. After
  729. 27:27the election, I believe there will be a
  730. 27:29strong backlash within the Republican
  731. 27:31Party. If the election results match
  732. 27:34the polls, once it's over, the first
  733. 27:36thing is a backlash; a split within the
  734. 27:38Republican Party is bound to happen.
  735. 27:41The second thing is not to
  736. 27:42underestimate the power of the Senate
  737. 27:44and the House. In the past, because
  738. 27:47partisan conflict wasn't as intense as
  739. 27:49a "fight to the death," the fundamental
  740. 27:52powers between the Senate and the House
  741. 27:54didn't matter as much, but in the
  742. 27:56current climate, they exert huge
  743. 27:58influence. We look at the U.S. House of
  744. 28:04Representatives; because it represents
  745. 28:06the people and is based on population,
  746. 28:08I think everyone should pay attention
  747. 28:10to the House, as it has two most
  748. 28:12important powers. One is that the power
  749. 28:17to initiate all fiscal and tax increase
  750. 28:19bills belongs solely to the House of
  751. 28:21Representatives.
  752. 28:25>> So, if the president says "I want to
  753. 28:27raise taxes" or "I want to increase
  754. 28:29spending," it doesn't start from the
  755. 28:31White House; they must utilize their
  756. 28:33majority in Congress. Therefore, when
  757. 28:37they lose the House, they essentially
  758. 28:39lose the power over taxation, including
  759. 28:41the ability to raise or cut taxes.
  760. 28:44>> Right.
  761. 28:45>> Does this cause significant damage to
  762. 28:47his term? Actually, for someone like
  763. 28:49Trump, when your power to initiate
  764. 28:51fiscal and tax policy is stripped away,
  765. 28:53the damage is indeed very significant.
  766. 28:55The second point, actually, is about
  767. 28:57impeachment, which is a power exclusive
  768. 28:59to the House of Representatives. They
  769. 29:01are responsible for bringing charges.
  770. 29:05>> Once they investigate and move forward
  771. 29:07with a vote, if the House passes it,
  772. 29:09they can impeach political figures and
  773. 29:11high-level federal officials; once the
  774. 29:13House approves, it counts as an
  775. 29:15indictment. Mhm.
  776. 29:19>> Even though it’s sent to the Senate
  777. 29:21after indictment and likely won't pass
  778. 29:23—since it requires a two-thirds
  779. 29:24majority—the constant launching of
  780. 29:26these proceedings can cause you huge
  781. 29:28trouble. The third point is their power
  782. 29:31to hold hearings and investigations;
  783. 29:32when they hold both, won't that power
  784. 29:34of investigation be a bit much for
  785. 29:36Trump? Because one characteristic of
  786. 29:38Trump is that his family members are
  787. 29:40all deeply entangled in his political
  788. 29:42affairs. Whether it's his son or his
  789. 29:45son-in-law, I don't think they can
  790. 29:47escape it. Unless you hide abroad, as
  791. 29:53long as you remain in the U.S., you'll
  792. 29:55likely be subjected to constant
  793. 29:57hearings and subpoenas from both
  794. 29:59chambers; you saw the TikTok CEO from
  795. 30:02Singapore, you saw Shou Zi Chew.
  796. 30:07>> You saw how intense the pressure was
  797. 30:09when he was at that hearing.
  798. 30:11Fortunately, Shou Zi Chew is quite
  799. 30:13handsome.
  800. 30:17>> Think about it, if you swapped him out
  801. 30:19for someone like Ivanka, I believe that
  802. 30:21if she sat in that hearing chair,
  803. 30:22she’d never be able to get back up.
  804. 30:28>> Oh, you don't think she could handle it
  805. 30:30?
  806. 30:30>> I think in the political arena, there's
  807. 30:32no such thing as being able to handle
  808. 30:34it. I’d say politics is just a game
  809. 30:38of framing people. If you're caught
  810. 30:42with evidence, you're a goner; even if
  811. 30:44there’s no evidence, the laws—U.S.
  812. 30:47laws are so complex that even lawyers
  813. 30:49can't keep track of them all. If I
  814. 30:51can't use this law, I’ll dig up one
  815. 30:53from 30 or 50 years ago, even from the
  816. 30:56last century; they don't expire, and I
  817. 30:58can just pull them out to use. You’ll
  818. 31:00never know—there are just too many of
  819. 31:02them in the U.S., it's truly terrifying
  820. 31:04.
  821. 31:04>> Why do American lawyers have such deep
  822. 31:07pockets? Why are they so active? It’s
  823. 31:09because no one can figure out the laws.
  824. 31:11If I really want to target you
  825. 31:12politically today, I have so many
  826. 31:14things at my disposal to make your life
  827. 31:15miserable—if not kill you, then at
  828. 31:17least leave you half-dead. So, after
  829. 31:19this election, if the current polling
  830. 31:21results hold, Trump will face immense
  831. 31:23pressure, and this pressure will build
  832. 31:25because everyone is already preparing
  833. 31:27for 2028, and the U.S. is no exception.
  834. 31:29Therefore, the level of confrontation
  835. 31:31will only intensify, not diminish. So,
  836. 31:34after the election, regarding Trump—
  837. 31:35we’ve become accustomed to the idea
  838. 31:37that if Trump says something, he’ll
  839. 31:39actually go through with it. Today, the
  840. 31:41trade war he wants to launch—it
  841. 31:42counts if he says it, because Congress
  842. 31:44is his, but if you look at these tariff
  843. 31:46wars, once he loses control of Congress
  844. 31:48, he loses the power to initiate them.
  845. 31:50Yeah.
  846. 31:51>> Once he acts, once Congress steps in,
  847. 31:53Congress has two types of power. One is
  848. 31:55the power to actively obstruct you, and
  849. 31:57the other is the power to passively
  850. 31:59refuse to cooperate with you. Beyond
  851. 32:01just not cooperating, if you want
  852. 32:03something passed, then let’s
  853. 32:05negotiate the terms.
  854. 32:06>> You have to give me something in return
  855. 32:08, otherwise, you won’t be able to get
  856. 32:10done what you want to do. So, this kind
  857. 32:12of leverage, which I can fully use
  858. 32:14against you in today’s U.S. political
  859. 32:16climate, I think is very unfavorable
  860. 32:18for Trump. Will this affect his attempt
  861. 32:21to structure a new world order?
  862. 32:26>> He certainly wants to, because he is a
  863. 32:28capable person, but the meeting between
  864. 32:30the leaders of China and the U.S. today
  865. 32:32—I think the first thing he needs to
  866. 32:34prove is that the three of us sitting
  867. 32:35down can actually resolve many of the
  868. 32:37world's difficult problems. Even that
  869. 32:43alone is not easy; we’ve made this
  870. 32:45out to be too simple, so I don't really
  871. 32:47have high expectations. I only know
  872. 32:51that around November this year, there
  873. 32:52is a high probability that these three
  874. 32:54will meet, and there will be a moment
  875. 32:56where the three are in the same frame
  876. 32:57or sitting together to discuss matters.
  877. 33:02As for the leaders of all other
  878. 33:03countries, you can just step aside, or
  879. 33:05stand in the back like human screens;
  880. 33:07basically, it’s like three big bosses
  881. 33:09sitting down to eat, while the others
  882. 33:11serve as waiters. This scene will
  883. 33:15appear, but I do not expect that this
  884. 33:17meeting can truly prove that today,
  885. 33:19after I have paralyzed the UN system,
  886. 33:21paralyzed the WTO, paralyzed many of
  887. 33:23these climate change conferences, and
  888. 33:25paralyzed many of these international
  889. 33:27organizations, I can then show the
  890. 33:29world that the three of us sitting down
  891. 33:31is enough to re-establish order. The
  892. 33:35differences between these three
  893. 33:37countries are vast, and I currently
  894. 33:38cannot see any geopolitical or global
  895. 33:40governance issues where all three
  896. 33:42countries share a consensus.
  897. 33:45>> They can sit down to provide the world
  898. 33:47with an explanation, but in terms of
  899. 33:49the situation, the flavor of a world
  900. 33:51divided into three—like the Three
  901. 33:53Kingdoms era of Wei, Shu, and Wu—will
  902. 33:55be visible this time. So you will see
  903. 33:58that the mere image of them sitting
  904. 34:00together to discuss the international
  905. 34:01situation has already had an impact on
  906. 34:03the world, but if you ask whether
  907. 34:05substantive issues, for instance, the
  908. 34:07Russia-Ukraine war, will be resolved at
  909. 34:08this meeting? Or will the US-Iran
  910. 34:11situation be resolved at this meeting?
  911. 34:13Or even the Taiwan Strait issue—do
  912. 34:14you think it will be resolved at this
  913. 34:16meeting? Probably not, but the
  914. 34:17international landscape of a world
  915. 34:19divided in three will have already
  916. 34:21taken shape. We, in Taiwan, largely
  917. 34:26lack an understanding of war; you know,
  918. 34:28for a party involved in a war,
  919. 34:30negotiation is a very cruel thing.
  920. 34:35Negotiation is a one-way street with no
  921. 34:37turning back. It’s not like if I sit
  922. 34:39at the negotiating table today, if
  923. 34:40Ukraine sits at the table and things
  924. 34:42don't go well, we can just go back to
  925. 34:44fighting; that's not how it works. I
  926. 34:46think once you sit at the negotiating
  927. 34:48table, your domestic will to resist
  928. 34:50collapses.
  929. 34:51>> Yes. Once you step up, your will to
  930. 34:53resist is gone. In fact, if I present
  931. 34:56highly oppressive terms today that
  932. 34:58Zelenskyy and Ukraine cannot accept,
  933. 34:59you no longer have the capability to
  934. 35:01return to the battlefield, and you
  935. 35:03cannot expect the countries that
  936. 35:05supported and backed you to say, "It
  937. 35:06didn't work out, it's okay, come back
  938. 35:08and we'll keep fighting." There is no
  939. 35:11such possibility. Throughout history,
  940. 35:14you’ve never seen a party in a
  941. 35:15position of weakness on the battlefield
  942. 35:17have any choice but to fight to the end
  943. 35:19to survive. You think, no matter the
  944. 35:23cost, I’ll fight you, and I’ll
  945. 35:25gamble that surrounding nations will
  946. 35:26share the burden with me. But if those
  947. 35:30other countries can no longer hold on,
  948. 35:32Ukraine will have no choice but to head
  949. 35:34to the negotiating table. For a nation
  950. 35:37currently at war, heading to the
  951. 35:39negotiating table is an admission of
  952. 35:40defeat. Once defeated, you are at the
  953. 35:43mercy of others, and there is no
  954. 35:45returning to the battlefield. Do you
  955. 35:48think that for the U.S.-Russia-Ukraine
  956. 35:50talks in early November, the mere act
  957. 35:52of establishing negotiations means the
  958. 35:54war in Ukraine will likely have to end?
  959. 35:57Yes, once talks start, it’s basically
  960. 35:59over. My view on Zelensky’s current
  961. 36:02attitude is that the situation dictates
  962. 36:04the outcome. Especially with the EU in
  963. 36:08a state of collapse, you can no longer
  964. 36:10expect the domestic politics of Germany
  965. 36:12, France, or the UK to be like they
  966. 36:14were a few years ago—where if you
  967. 36:16asked for 50 billion or 100 billion,
  968. 36:18they’d just hand it over. It’s
  969. 36:21impossible. This means things will only
  970. 36:24get harder for you from here.
  971. 36:28Russia’s advantage, however, is that
  972. 36:29they’ve already proven they’ve
  973. 36:31survived your financial hunt and your
  974. 36:33energy blockades; now, you have to come
  975. 36:35crawling back to them. Think about it:
  976. 36:39besides finance and energy, what else
  977. 36:41is there left to restrict Russia with?
  978. 36:43So, their war preparations are
  979. 36:45currently in a position of
  980. 36:46unprecedented advantage. As for drones,
  981. 36:48you bomb me, I bomb you—as we’ve
  982. 36:51discussed before, drones only have a
  983. 36:53tactical, harassing effect. They don't
  984. 36:55fundamentally change the front lines of
  985. 36:57the battlefield. They have no impact on
  986. 36:59the shifting of the lines, and thus,
  987. 37:01they have no real significance to the
  988. 37:03war.
  989. 37:04>> Right, so the outcome of the
  990. 37:06Russia-Ukraine war is likely near.
  991. 37:09However, what Ukraine wanted to prove
  992. 37:11—that if they won, they could join
  993. 37:13NATO—is, of course, impossible.
  994. 37:16>> The idea that after winning they could
  995. 37:18recover Crimea and the Donbas—the
  996. 37:20land lost back in 2014—is also
  997. 37:21impossible now; in fact, they’ve lost
  998. 37:24even more. What Russia set out to prove
  999. 37:26is that despite the combined
  1000. 37:27containment by the US and Europe, their
  1001. 37:29finance didn't collapse.
  1002. 37:30>> Their economy didn't collapse, and the
  1003. 37:33nation itself didn't collapse.
  1004. 37:35>> Looking at it now, of course there are
  1005. 37:37losses, but their thresholds for
  1006. 37:39survival are different. Alright,
  1007. 37:42let’s move on to the Korean Peninsula
  1008. 37:44. This development is truly quite
  1009. 37:47surprising, which also means that
  1010. 37:49nobody really knows what North Korea is
  1011. 37:51thinking right now. In the days before
  1012. 37:55Kim Jong-un appeared, there were rumors
  1013. 37:57circulating internationally and on
  1014. 37:59social media platforms that he had
  1015. 38:01already died. I went back to check, and
  1016. 38:05it was actually overseas dissidents
  1017. 38:07from mainland China who first spread
  1018. 38:09this news—or rather, it wasn’t even
  1019. 38:12news. I read that report, and I have to
  1020. 38:16say, it contained absolutely no
  1021. 38:18evidence. They didn’t even have any
  1022. 38:21circumstantial evidence; they just
  1023. 38:23claimed, "I think he must be dead," and
  1024. 38:25went on from there. There was zero
  1025. 38:29evidence, which is why major media
  1026. 38:31outlets and even international
  1027. 38:33intelligence agencies all came out to
  1028. 38:35say there was no truth to it. Yet, it
  1029. 38:38continued to spread and circulate on
  1030. 38:40these platforms. And then, we suddenly
  1031. 38:46saw that over the weekend, Kim Jong-un
  1032. 38:48crossed the New Yalu River Bridge and
  1033. 38:50arrived in Dandong, China. At the same
  1034. 38:58time, we saw Wang Huning and Wang Yi
  1035. 39:00deliberately travel to Dandong to meet
  1036. 39:02with him. This move by Kim was very
  1037. 39:07sudden; what message is he trying to
  1038. 39:09convey? Previously, there were constant
  1039. 39:12rumors about a Trump-Kim summit,
  1040. 39:14largely due to Trump’s repeated
  1041. 39:16remarks. However, Trump seems less
  1042. 39:20enthusiastic about it lately, so U.S.
  1043. 39:22think tanks have started to assess the
  1044. 39:25situation and believe the chance of
  1045. 39:26them meeting at the APEC summit later
  1046. 39:29this year has dropped to only about 10%
  1047. 39:31. Interestingly, the one not giving up
  1048. 39:35on a Trump-Kim summit at this stage is
  1049. 39:37South Korea. South Korea says that
  1050. 39:42although it is difficult to predict a
  1051. 39:44specific timetable, they will continue
  1052. 39:46to coordinate closely with the U.S. and
  1053. 39:48put in the necessary diplomatic effort
  1054. 39:50to ensure U.S.-North Korea talks happen
  1055. 39:52as soon as possible. So, in reality,
  1056. 39:57South Korea is still the most proactive
  1057. 40:00party regarding the summit. However,
  1058. 40:04North Korea has recently been accusing
  1059. 40:06South Korea of fabricating the landmine
  1060. 40:09incident at the border. So, how should
  1061. 40:13we look at the Korean Peninsula, the
  1062. 40:15relations between China and the two
  1063. 40:17Koreas, and the relationship between
  1064. 40:20the U.S. and both Koreas?
  1065. 40:24>> To understand this, we have to look at
  1066. 40:26the big picture: in our past impression
  1067. 40:28, North Korea was extremely poor. The
  1068. 40:31people could not even get enough to eat
  1069. 40:33. There were defectors, extreme
  1070. 40:35sanctions, and Kim Jong Un’s brutal
  1071. 40:37tactics, like the artillery executions
  1072. 40:39and the dog executions—a whole lot of
  1073. 40:42things. But in the last three years,
  1074. 40:44the atmosphere in North Korea has
  1075. 40:46changed. Their military capabilities
  1076. 40:49have grown rapidly with Russian support
  1077. 40:51, giving them nuclear retaliatory power
  1078. 40:53. They are now focusing on economic
  1079. 40:55development. Why do they want to
  1080. 40:57develop their economy? Developing the
  1081. 41:00economy doesn't have much to do with
  1082. 41:01Russia, which is a poor yet large
  1083. 41:03country. Militarily and for security,
  1084. 41:05they have a deep connection with Russia
  1085. 41:07. They have some old grievances with
  1086. 41:10China, stemming from the Six-Party
  1087. 41:12Talks and the sanctions, which created
  1088. 41:14some distance between the two.
  1089. 41:16>> There was indeed a low point. There was
  1090. 41:18a low point, so why did Kim Jong Un go
  1091. 41:21to attend the Korean War commemoration?
  1092. 41:24He wanted to mend ties, and China-North
  1093. 41:27Korea relations are naturally easy to
  1094. 41:29bridge because we have many Chinese
  1095. 41:31citizens of Korean descent on the
  1096. 41:33Liaodong Peninsula.
  1097. 41:35>> Once you cross over from Dandong, you
  1098. 41:37are in North Korea.
  1099. 41:38>> Now that the bridge is open, trade has
  1100. 41:41started, and honestly, the people on
  1101. 41:43both sides can communicate because they
  1102. 41:45all speak Korean.
  1103. 41:47>> Trade volume has increased sharply in
  1104. 41:49recent years.
  1105. 41:50>> So, politics follows the economy. Why
  1106. 41:54does he dare to engage so boldly with
  1107. 41:56China now? One reason is economic
  1108. 41:59necessity. Second, Kim Jong Un has
  1109. 42:01already abandoned the idea of unifying
  1110. 42:02with South Korea.
  1111. 42:03>> Yes, they even amended their
  1112. 42:04constitution.
  1113. 42:05>> Yes, amended the constitution.
  1114. 42:07>> Amended the constitution to not just
  1115. 42:08abandon reunification, but to
  1116. 42:09explicitly reject it.
  1117. 42:10>> Rejecting reunification. Coincidentally
  1118. 42:12, the South Korean public has long
  1119. 42:14rejected being a pawn in the U.S.'s
  1120. 42:16election wars. So, there won't be any
  1121. 42:18major conflict between the two. This
  1122. 42:20has finally led to a bit of a joke. The
  1123. 42:24U.S. Army commander mentioned that they
  1124. 42:27fear the two Koreas no longer need U.S.
  1125. 42:29control; there is vaguely a sense of
  1126. 42:31that. The U.S. feels that since North
  1127. 42:35Korea isn't attacking the South anymore
  1128. 42:37, what reason do American troops have
  1129. 42:39to stay and defend South Korea? South
  1130. 42:43Korea says, "You’re forcing me to
  1131. 42:45spend money on your semiconductors and
  1132. 42:47whatnot, plus increasing military
  1133. 42:49spending, but my own economy is
  1134. 42:51struggling too." So, in this complex
  1135. 42:55environment, Kim Jong Un’s sudden
  1136. 42:57move to visit China is very interesting
  1137. 43:00—very interesting indeed. It
  1138. 43:03signifies that the northern door is
  1139. 43:05open, and there are no worries about
  1140. 43:07the South; that landmine incident was a
  1141. 43:09minor matter, not even worth discussing
  1142. 43:11. It only proves that the 38th parallel
  1143. 43:14still exists, so I think the overall
  1144. 43:16atmosphere is changing. Why does China
  1145. 43:20want to win over North Korea? Because
  1146. 43:23Japanese militarism is acting up. Don't
  1147. 43:26Russia, North Korea, and China need to
  1148. 43:28keep you in check?
  1149. 43:31>> So Gao Miao is also eager to meet Trump
  1150. 43:33, and Xian wants to see him too; all of
  1151. 43:35this has to do with the United States.
  1152. 43:40Because the U.S. has troops stationed
  1153. 43:42there, this issue will make the
  1154. 43:43international conference quite lively.
  1155. 43:46I agree with what Xiang Long said:
  1156. 43:48there won't be major changes, but
  1157. 43:50probing each other’s bottom line is
  1158. 43:51clear—what are you sure you want?
  1159. 43:53What do you really want? Is he
  1160. 43:55indispensable to you? Or what am I
  1161. 43:57willing to concede? This meeting will
  1162. 43:58have results, but they won't be
  1163. 44:00publicized; it won't be blatant, like "
  1164. 44:02from now on, this is how it will be,"
  1165. 44:04right? That’s impossible, because
  1166. 44:05this is different from the Yalta
  1167. 44:07Conference. The Yalta Conference was
  1168. 44:09about countries already on the
  1169. 44:10battlefield; if they didn't define
  1170. 44:12spheres of influence, they would have
  1171. 44:14started fighting each other. You know
  1172. 44:16Montgomery and Patton were competing to
  1173. 44:18race forward, and Zhukov and Eisenhower
  1174. 44:20were competing over who would take
  1175. 44:22Germany.
  1176. 44:25>> The first two were American and British
  1177. 44:27generals, and the latter two were
  1178. 44:28Soviet and American generals; as they
  1179. 44:30all raced forward, they were each using
  1180. 44:32military force to claim their own
  1181. 44:34territory. You have to occupy territory
  1182. 44:37to have leverage in talks, which is why
  1183. 44:39Berlin ended up divided into East and
  1184. 44:41West.
  1185. 44:42>> Right? This was all about land grabbing
  1186. 44:44.
  1187. 44:44>> But now there is no such territory,
  1188. 44:46except on the Russia-Ukraine
  1189. 44:47battlefield.
  1190. 44:48>> There is no current war for seizing
  1191. 44:50territory.
  1192. 44:51>> So it’s not a question of carving up
  1193. 44:53the world into three parts.
  1194. 44:56>> The most serious issue is the division
  1195. 44:58of spheres of influence, which is why
  1196. 44:59NATO doesn't want Ukraine to join now.
  1197. 45:02>> Hmm.
  1198. 45:03>> They can't bear that burden or that
  1199. 45:05baggage. That's right, exactly. Okay,
  1200. 45:07so Han Bing, what is your take? Kim
  1201. 45:09Jong-un suddenly appeared in Dandong.
  1202. 45:12Of course, saying he’s dead is just
  1203. 45:14an international joke; some people keep
  1204. 45:17manufacturing this rumor, probably
  1205. 45:19three or five times a year.
  1206. 45:25>> But the focal point is the change in
  1207. 45:27his grand strategy, a shift that
  1208. 45:28Beijing is encouraging. Even South
  1209. 45:33Korea is encouraging it. This
  1210. 45:37encouragement from Beijing and South
  1211. 45:39Korea will inevitably bring significant
  1212. 45:41changes to the situation on the Korean
  1213. 45:43Peninsula, and the U.S. must consider
  1214. 45:45how to view it—first from a security
  1215. 45:47perspective, and second, regarding its
  1216. 45:49sphere of influence. South Korea was
  1217. 45:55originally in the palm of my hand; U.S.
  1218. 45:57forces in Korea basically controlled
  1219. 45:59all your defense-related matters, but
  1220. 46:01if the South Korean public truly
  1221. 46:03changes their attitude, will this also
  1222. 46:05change? It won't happen immediately,
  1223. 46:10but this is clearly what Lee Jae-myung
  1224. 46:12hopes to shape, you see.
  1225. 46:14>> For Lee Jae-myung, his current poll
  1226. 46:16numbers are low and internal backlash
  1227. 46:17is severe; he feels that if things
  1228. 46:19could move toward a more reconciliatory
  1229. 46:21situation between the two Koreas
  1230. 46:22externally, then that would certainly
  1231. 46:24be a good thing for him, whether for
  1232. 46:26his personal reputation or to shift
  1233. 46:28focus, it’s all good for him. But
  1234. 46:29this is obviously something South Korea
  1235. 46:31cannot lead, because it depends on the
  1236. 46:33overall big picture. As for North Korea
  1237. 46:35, I think after the Russia-Ukraine war,
  1238. 46:38and even up to now, what is their
  1239. 46:40biggest improvement? The fact is that
  1240. 46:41countries around the world have tacitly
  1241. 46:43accepted that they possess nuclear
  1242. 46:44weapons.
  1243. 46:45>> Yes.
  1244. 46:45>> Everyone has accepted it, including
  1245. 46:47mainland China, which used to oppose it
  1246. 46:49, but now basically accepts it. Even
  1247. 46:51Trump no longer seeks to demand they
  1248. 46:52denuclearize, so they have essentially
  1249. 46:54become a world-recognized nuclear state
  1250. 46:56. In this situation, as the General
  1251. 46:57just mentioned, Kim Jong-un has an
  1252. 46:59urgent need to improve his economic
  1253. 47:01environment because the economy is
  1254. 47:02truly in bad shape. In reality, his
  1255. 47:04domestic situation is very poor, as he
  1256. 47:06has spent most of his resources over
  1257. 47:08the years developing these weapons.
  1258. 47:10Regarding Russia, the Russia-Ukraine
  1259. 47:11war has actually helped him, and Russia
  1260. 47:13has provided him with some things, but
  1261. 47:15it’s not enough, and the support from
  1262. 47:17China is also limited. For Kim Jong-un,
  1263. 47:20I think Trump seems to be stepping back
  1264. 47:22, but as for Kim, I think he might want
  1265. 47:24to attend APEC. Although he
  1266. 47:27>> Do you think Kim Jong-un has become the
  1267. 47:29one who is more proactive now?
  1268. 47:30>> Yes, I think it has become Kim Jong-un,
  1269. 47:32because he believes his status is
  1270. 47:33relatively secure and everyone has
  1271. 47:35acknowledged his nuclear weapons, but
  1272. 47:37he is not an APEC member. True, but the
  1273. 47:39issue is that China is the host this
  1274. 47:41year.
  1275. 47:41>> China has the authority to invite him.
  1276. 47:43So I wonder if he is vying for this
  1277. 47:44opportunity; otherwise, take the
  1278. 47:46China-North Korea bridge, which was
  1279. 47:47actually completed on the mainland side
  1280. 47:49back in 2014.
  1281. 47:50>> Yes, that’s true.
  1282. 47:51>> They were waiting for you, waiting for
  1283. 47:53North Korea to hurry up and build that
  1284. 47:54connecting road.
  1285. 47:55>> Yes, they dragged it out, delaying it
  1286. 47:57until this year when they finally
  1287. 47:58finished it. I think they specifically
  1288. 48:00rushed to finish it this year just to
  1289. 48:02seize this opportunity, and through
  1290. 48:04this pretext, initiate another contact
  1291. 48:06with mainland China. Of course, he has
  1292. 48:08many intentions, and he hopes to see if
  1293. 48:11mainland China might...Actually, for
  1294. 48:13Trump now, back in his 1.0 era, he went
  1295. 48:15straight to meet Kim. But now, in 2.0,
  1296. 48:18he was saying a while ago, "Maybe I'll
  1297. 48:20go meet Kim Jong-un!" But he hasn't
  1298. 48:22mentioned it lately. Why? Because the
  1299. 48:24situation is very clear now. As the
  1300. 48:26General just said, it's China, Russia,
  1301. 48:28and North Korea versus Japan right now.
  1302. 48:30Because Sanae Takaichi wants what is
  1303. 48:32called a "normal state," and some even
  1304. 48:33say she wants remilitarization. The
  1305. 48:35U.S. has the U.S.-Japan alliance, after
  1306. 48:37all. Theoretically, he cannot get too
  1307. 48:39close to North Korea, especially since
  1308. 48:41they keep launching missiles and making
  1309. 48:43threats. So, under these circumstances,
  1310. 48:45Trump might not be able to show a very
  1311. 48:47proactive attitude. So you think
  1312. 48:49Japan's lobbying has really made Trump
  1313. 48:51cool off slightly on a Trump-Kim summit
  1314. 48:53?
  1315. 48:54>> I think he has cooled down, but I don't
  1316. 48:56know for how long, because Trump is a
  1317. 48:58person who changes at any moment; no
  1318. 49:00one knows where he’ll end up. I must
  1319. 49:04say, among world leaders, although
  1320. 49:06Trump once used Pearl Harbor to tease
  1321. 49:09Sanae Takaichi, he is relatively decent
  1322. 49:11to her.
  1323. 49:12>> I think so. For example, he was willing
  1324. 49:14to meet her before meeting Xi Jinping.
  1325. 49:16He even called her after meeting with
  1326. 49:18Xi Jinping, so I think he treats Sanae
  1327. 49:20Takaichi with considerable regard.
  1328. 49:21>> At least at this stage, I think Sanae
  1329. 49:23Takaichi is still a person Trump
  1330. 49:25respects to a certain degree, but the
  1331. 49:28question is how long this situation can
  1332. 49:30last. Maybe after a while, once the
  1333. 49:32midterm elections are over, Trump might
  1334. 49:35have different considerations. So, I
  1335. 49:37think this change is constant, and we
  1336. 49:40can only observe, because Xi Jinping
  1337. 49:42may not necessarily truly want this to
  1338. 49:44happen.
  1339. 49:45>> You mean the Trump-Kim summit?
  1340. 49:46>> Yes, I don't think he necessarily wants
  1341. 49:48it. Right, because it might not be a
  1342. 49:50very beneficial thing for him either.
  1343. 49:51So I think all sides have their own
  1344. 49:53interests—China has its interests,
  1345. 49:54and the U.S. has its interests. So I
  1346. 49:56think we'll just have to wait and see,
  1347. 49:57because if China doesn't extend an
  1348. 49:59invitation, Kim Jong-un can't go even
  1349. 50:00if he wants to.
  1350. 50:01>> Hmm. All right, so what General Shuai
  1351. 50:04just mentioned is a shift in the
  1352. 50:05overall landscape. In the context of
  1353. 50:09Northeast Asia, once Kim Jong Un felt
  1354. 50:11his position was secure—especially
  1355. 50:13his status as a nuclear-armed state—
  1356. 50:15he could feel emboldened to amend the
  1357. 50:17constitution. He is no longer seeking
  1358. 50:21the unification of the Korean Peninsula
  1359. 50:23, which creates conditions for a
  1360. 50:25relatively peaceful relationship with
  1361. 50:26South Korea. Secondly, he is beginning
  1362. 50:30to seek breakthroughs in the economy
  1363. 50:32and looking to open up. It seems North
  1364. 50:35Korea’s stance is becoming
  1365. 50:36increasingly clear. Under these clear
  1366. 50:41circumstances, will the U.S. maintain a
  1367. 50:43lukewarm attitude toward meeting with
  1368. 50:45Kim Jong Un due to constraints from
  1369. 50:46Japan? And what is mainland China’s
  1370. 50:50stance on a potential Trump-Kim summit?
  1371. 50:54This is actually critical, because even
  1372. 50:56if it doesn't happen in Shenzhen, in
  1373. 50:58the future, if North Korea and the U.S.
  1374. 51:00want to establish a viable negotiation
  1375. 51:02mechanism, it still has to go through
  1376. 51:04mainland China. So, how do you see it?
  1377. 51:09>> Since North Korea already has nuclear
  1378. 51:11weapons, I think China has been quite
  1379. 51:14passive toward the Trump-Kim summits
  1380. 51:16from the past until now. Basically, you
  1381. 51:18don’t see China expressing any very
  1382. 51:20active stance of support or opposition.
  1383. 51:23On the contrary, during the last
  1384. 51:25Trump-Kim summit, China even had to
  1385. 51:27provide the aircraft. Because Kim Jong
  1386. 51:29Un, other than his activities along the
  1387. 51:31China-North Korea border, feels uneasy
  1388. 51:33anywhere else.
  1389. 51:34>> He always takes the train.
  1390. 51:36>> He always takes the train, so he takes
  1391. 51:38his...
  1392. 51:38>> His special train.
  1393. 51:40>> Right, so you see, this time when he
  1394. 51:42went to Dandong, he also took his
  1395. 51:44Maybach.
  1396. 51:45>> Mhm.
  1397. 51:46>> Of course, that Maybach—when a
  1398. 51:48national leader is still using another
  1399. 51:50country's car as their own official
  1400. 51:52vehicle, it shows your level of
  1401. 51:54development is, basically, just average
  1402. 51:56. But his visit to Dandong this time—
  1403. 51:59I really think we shouldn't first
  1404. 52:00consider what has changed between China
  1405. 52:03and North Korea, but rather that a
  1406. 52:04significant change must have occurred
  1407. 52:06in North Korea’s own thinking.
  1408. 52:09>> The situation in North Korea now is
  1409. 52:11roughly like China in the early days of
  1410. 52:13its Reform and Opening-up in the 1980s.
  1411. 52:16It has been frozen, frozen for 70 years
  1412. 52:19, sealed off for 70 years.
  1413. 52:21Geographically speaking, it has locked
  1414. 52:23itself in by bolting both the front and
  1415. 52:25back doors. To the south, there is the
  1416. 52:2738th parallel, which it bolted itself;
  1417. 52:30to the north, there is the Yalu River,
  1418. 52:32which it also bolted itself. It
  1419. 52:33doesn’t come out, and it doesn’t
  1420. 52:35let anyone in. This is the most unique
  1421. 52:37country on Earth; it doesn't let people
  1422. 52:39out, and it doesn't let them in.
  1423. 52:41>> It is locked away.
  1424. 52:42>> Right, but Kim Jong-un's North Korea is
  1425. 52:44different from Cuba. There are only
  1426. 52:46four socialist countries left on Earth,
  1427. 52:48and Cuba has been locked down by others
  1428. 52:50. True.
  1429. 52:50>> But Kim Jong-un has locked himself in,
  1430. 52:52which makes him very different. Yet
  1431. 52:54today, among the four socialist
  1432. 52:56countries, China has reached its
  1433. 52:58current level of development, and
  1434. 52:59there’s another one he can see:
  1435. 53:01Vietnam.
  1436. 53:02>> Since Vietnam has developed to this
  1437. 53:04level, and Kim Jong-un even has nuclear
  1438. 53:06weapons, we usually talk about
  1439. 53:07geopolitics in Asia, but what's most
  1440. 53:10fascinating is the geo-economics.
  1441. 53:11>> Exactly. With Asia's economic
  1442. 53:15development at this stage, it generates
  1443. 53:1750%of the world's annual economic
  1444. 53:19growth.
  1445. 53:21>> So, half of global growth is
  1446. 53:22contributed by Asia.
  1447. 53:24>> Right, every single year, and it’s
  1448. 53:26been that way for a long time. It’s
  1449. 53:29strange that North Korea is left out.
  1450. 53:31So, his trip to Dandong feels like
  1451. 53:33he’s finally unlocking those doors he
  1452. 53:35kept shut. It’s like the room has
  1453. 53:37opened, and he’s starting to peek his
  1454. 53:39head out to take a look around.
  1455. 53:40There’s one thing about Kim Jong-un
  1456. 53:42that I’ve always found worth
  1457. 53:44observing: he studied abroad.
  1458. 53:46>> In Switzerland.
  1459. 53:47>> He likes the NBA.
  1460. 53:48>> Yes.
  1461. 53:49>> He has an interest in Michael Jordan
  1462. 53:51and others, and he’s even fond of
  1463. 53:53Rodman.
  1464. 53:55>> You see, this "bad boy" plays that kind
  1465. 53:57of ball. I mean, someone with that kind
  1466. 54:01of background, having had a taste of
  1467. 54:03Western education and lived among
  1468. 54:05Westerners, his motivation to open the
  1469. 54:07door and look outward seems quite
  1470. 54:09genuine—he simply wants to know what
  1471. 54:11life is like out there. He knows better
  1472. 54:15than the vast majority of North Koreans
  1473. 54:17what the outside world is like. He
  1474. 54:19can’t just deceive himself with a
  1475. 54:21closed-off world anymore. I think that
  1476. 54:24trip to Dandong was a very clear signal
  1477. 54:26that he’s opening the door. A
  1478. 54:29national leader who usually doesn't let
  1479. 54:31anyone in or out is now crossing the
  1480. 54:33Yalu River as if he’s just walking
  1481. 54:35into his own kitchen. This will likely
  1482. 54:37become normalized. If I, Kim Jong-un,
  1483. 54:39go for a walk somewhere in Northeast
  1484. 54:42China, don't be so surprised. I’m
  1485. 54:44just opening the door and wandering
  1486. 54:46around the yard right outside my home.
  1487. 54:48After all, everyone knows there are
  1488. 54:50quite a few ethnic Koreans in the
  1489. 54:52Northeast. Yes.
  1490. 54:53>> Their language and culture are
  1491. 54:55interconnected, even if they continue
  1492. 54:57to argue over who Changbai Mountain
  1493. 54:58belongs to. So, Kim Jong-un interacting
  1494. 55:01with the Northeast region is perfectly
  1495. 55:03fine. But this time he specifically
  1496. 55:05took that bridge, even though not long
  1497. 55:07ago, there was another bridge that
  1498. 55:09opened between North Korea and Russia,
  1499. 55:11which he didn't visit.
  1500. 55:12>> Once that bridge opened, it was
  1501. 55:14technically connected. Now that you put
  1502. 55:16it that way, do you think he might go
  1503. 55:17and take a trip across that one too?
  1504. 55:19>> No, he won't, because after all, 90%of
  1505. 55:21his trade is with China. His
  1506. 55:25relationship with Russia is based on
  1507. 55:27political and military mutual trust;
  1508. 55:29economically, even Russia has to rely
  1509. 55:31on China. Kim Jong-un doesn't need to
  1510. 55:36go there for economic reasons, as
  1511. 55:37Russia doesn't have much to offer him
  1512. 55:39right now. But his relationship with
  1513. 55:43China is substantial. That’s why I
  1514. 55:48think his visit to the Northeast,
  1515. 55:50especially to that vehicle factory—
  1516. 55:52that factory, the Shuguang Automotive,
  1517. 55:54a state-owned enterprise, or the
  1518. 55:56Hwanghae factory—is significant.
  1519. 56:02Everyone knows the Northeast is the
  1520. 56:04Rust Belt, so that factory can't be
  1521. 56:06compared to the ones we see in Shenzhen
  1522. 56:08today, but it is built for large-scale
  1523. 56:10production.
  1524. 56:13>> Because it’s heavy industry, it
  1525. 56:15actually still has the capacity to
  1526. 56:17manufacture large items.
  1527. 56:19>> I watched the North Korean news footage
  1528. 56:21, and he wasn't just going through the
  1529. 56:23motions at that factory; he was looking
  1530. 56:25very closely. Hmm.
  1531. 56:27>> In other words, I believe that vehicle
  1532. 56:28factory will have a cooperative
  1533. 56:30relationship with North Korea. If you
  1534. 56:34view it like China's explosive decade
  1535. 56:36after opening up in the 1980s, I
  1536. 56:37believe that once North Korea opens its
  1537. 56:39doors, it will definitely experience a
  1538. 56:41boom. And China will be the one to
  1539. 56:46enjoy the sweet, first bite of that
  1540. 56:47sugarcane. China is the most qualified
  1541. 56:51to reap the dividends of this reform
  1542. 56:52and opening up. As for who will get the
  1543. 56:56tail end of that sugarcane, we can talk
  1544. 56:58about that later, but China is
  1545. 56:59certainly going to get the first bite.
  1546. 57:04That matter, along with the upcoming
  1547. 57:06APEC, is exactly what Han Bing just
  1548. 57:08mentioned. Today, as he begins to test
  1549. 57:14the waters and open up, seeking a path
  1550. 57:16toward reform and opening, he is likely
  1551. 57:18looking back at his youth—watching
  1552. 57:20basketball with Rodman and the joyful
  1553. 57:22memories of his life in Europe. He
  1554. 57:27wants to open up, but once he does, can
  1555. 57:29he integrate into the Asian
  1556. 57:31geopolitical economy? He must go
  1557. 57:33through China; only China can lead the
  1558. 57:35way for him. That is his only chance.
  1559. 57:37Without China leading the way, he won't
  1560. 57:39be able to enter. He lacks the capacity
  1561. 57:41to handle complex Asian geopolitics; he
  1562. 57:44cannot deal with South Korea, Japan, or
  1563. 57:46the United States. His relationship
  1564. 57:48with ASEAN nations is actually quite
  1565. 57:49tense. Don't forget that he had him
  1566. 57:51assassinated in Malaysia.
  1567. 57:52>> Yes, that's right, the assassination.
  1568. 57:55Because of this, ASEAN's vigilance
  1569. 57:56toward him remains extremely high. In
  1570. 57:59other words, if China doesn't take him
  1571. 58:00by the hand, he will still be left just
  1572. 58:02staring at the water and scenery along
  1573. 58:04the Yalu River. So, I believe he is
  1574. 58:07using this APEC summit as an
  1575. 58:09opportunity to allow North Korea to
  1576. 58:11open a new chapter. I have always
  1577. 58:13believed that North Korea is going to
  1578. 58:14open up, and its opening is a major
  1579. 58:16event for Northeast Asia. North Korea
  1580. 58:18intends to open up and wants to seize
  1581. 58:20this APEC opportunity; it seems that is
  1582. 58:21the attitude he is projecting. Now we
  1583. 58:24have to wait and see, because for him
  1584. 58:25to open up, South Korea's attitude is
  1585. 58:27also crucial. Whether he can capitalize
  1586. 58:31on Yoon Suk-yeol's term to build a new
  1587. 58:32relationship will depend on his wisdom.
  1588. 58:35>> Alright, we want to thank Longfengbao
  1589. 58:38BFK001 for the donation. And here is GP
  1590. 58:40, thank you for your donation. He says
  1591. 58:42this is his first time seeing Brother
  1592. 58:44Bin here, and he looks so full of
  1593. 58:46energy. He also saw Sister Feng's green
  1594. 58:51dress, which is truly rare and looks
  1595. 58:53particularly good, just like Disney's
  1596. 58:55Tinker Bell. And Longfengbao, thank you
  1597. 58:58for your donation. Also, here is Huang
  1598. 59:00H, thank you for the donation. He says
  1599. 59:02some of the assessments are actually a
  1600. 59:04bit too optimistic. For example,
  1601. 59:05regarding the US Congressional hearings
  1602. 59:07: look at all the things Biden's son
  1603. 59:09did in Ukraine and the money he
  1604. 59:11laundered. The Republican-led Congress
  1605. 59:12couldn't push forward any investigation
  1606. 59:14, and before leaving office, he
  1607. 59:16pardoned his son and the whole family,
  1608. 59:18allowing them to walk away completely
  1609. 59:20unscathed. Regarding the issue of
  1610. 59:21negotiations, back then in Turkey,
  1611. 59:23after several rounds of talks, nothing
  1612. 59:26substantial came of it. Many agreements
  1613. 59:28were discussed, but they weren't
  1614. 59:30finalized. The key remains whether
  1615. 59:33China and the US can divide Europe
  1616. 59:35together, for instance, Australia.
  1617. 59:37Alright, Longfengbao16, thank you for
  1618. 59:39continuing to donate. And here is MLN,
  1619. 59:41thanks for your donation. He says he's
  1620. 59:44been a member for a month. Hello
  1621. 59:45Brother Tang, Hello Sister Feng, can we
  1622. 59:48talk about the domestic elections for
  1623. 59:50our final topic? Two minutes for each
  1624. 59:53person, because yesterday's topics were
  1625. 59:55basically centered on the Blue Camp and
  1626. 59:57Kevin Tsai. First, Kevin Tsai suddenly
  1627. 1:00:00posted on Weibo, saying, "I have always
  1628. 1:00:02been against Taiwan independence; I
  1629. 1:00:04have never supported Taiwan
  1630. 1:00:05independence. I have never supported
  1631. 1:00:08Taiwan independence." Then, regarding
  1632. 1:00:10this matter, wow, PUMA Shen immediately
  1633. 1:00:12claimed Chinese interference, and
  1634. 1:00:14Chiang Wan-an said he wouldn't accept
  1635. 1:00:16such threats. It seems the DPP hopes to
  1636. 1:00:19replicate the Tzuyu incident with Kevin
  1637. 1:00:21Tsai. Can it be replicated? The second
  1638. 1:00:24point is the great unity of the Blue
  1639. 1:00:26Camp, with the establishment of Chiang
  1640. 1:00:28Wan-an's campaign headquarters. The
  1641. 1:00:29third part is the Blue-White
  1642. 1:00:31integration, which is now showing even
  1643. 1:00:33more momentum, not only with Hsinchu
  1644. 1:00:35Mayor Kao Hung-an supporting Chiang
  1645. 1:00:37Wan-an, but Huang Kuo-chang also
  1646. 1:00:39declaring his full support for Chiang.
  1647. 1:00:41Two minutes each to share your views. I
  1648. 1:00:44think because Chiang Wan-an started
  1649. 1:00:45late, he felt he had to deal with the
  1650. 1:00:47city government's budget matters. Plus,
  1651. 1:00:49during the typhoon, he acted like a
  1652. 1:00:51disciplined civil servant, only
  1653. 1:00:53starting his campaign once the election
  1654. 1:00:55leave began. PUMA Shen is different; he
  1655. 1:00:57doesn't even have to show up for work
  1656. 1:00:59at the Legislative Yuan and just spends
  1657. 1:01:01his days there running his mouth. So I
  1658. 1:01:03am still very optimistic about this
  1659. 1:01:05situation. I believe Taipei citizens
  1660. 1:01:08are not so easily fooled, and these
  1661. 1:01:10waves of attacks are not just against
  1662. 1:01:12Chiang Wan-an—he is facing not just a
  1663. 1:01:14city mayoral election, but
  1664. 1:01:16national-level pressure.
  1665. 1:01:18>> Hmm.
  1666. 1:01:18>> Look at how much money and resources
  1667. 1:01:20the other side has. Someone should
  1668. 1:01:22compile the statistics. PUMA Shen's
  1669. 1:01:24billboards alone cost over 100 million.
  1670. 1:01:26Can the KMT even bring out...
  1671. 1:01:27>> They spent a huge amount of money.
  1672. 1:01:29>> Spent a lot of money.
  1673. 1:01:30>> A massive amount of money.
  1674. 1:01:31>> Mobilization. Many of these protesters
  1675. 1:01:34are not even locals. So the question is
  1676. 1:01:36, while the momentum looks huge, today
  1677. 1:01:38we finally saw Chiang Wan-an call for a
  1678. 1:01:41counterattack. I still have great
  1679. 1:01:43confidence in the Taipei mayoral
  1680. 1:01:45election. I hope everyone won't be
  1681. 1:01:47overwhelmed by such pressure and money;
  1682. 1:01:50we have our own autonomy.
  1683. 1:01:52>> Alright, Han Bing, you've been
  1684. 1:01:54observing elections for a long time, so
  1685. 1:01:56how do you see Chiang Wan-an's current
  1686. 1:01:58call for a counterattack?
  1687. 1:02:00>> Well, a while ago, Brother Xiaolong
  1688. 1:02:02also interviewed Chiang Wan-an. And
  1689. 1:02:04back then, I felt Chiang's entire aura
  1690. 1:02:06was off. Yeah.
  1691. 1:02:07>> He looked very stifled, and seemed to
  1692. 1:02:10lack strong self-confidence.
  1693. 1:02:11>> I just felt this was completely...
  1694. 1:02:13>> Yes, completely different from the
  1695. 1:02:15person I used to know.
  1696. 1:02:16>> He seemed dazed from that wave of
  1697. 1:02:18attacks by the DPP, like he didn't know
  1698. 1:02:20what to do.
  1699. 1:02:20>> But I think he looked different
  1700. 1:02:22yesterday.
  1701. 1:02:22>> Yesterday, his whole face...
  1702. 1:02:24>> Yes, he really came alive. I think the
  1703. 1:02:26atmosphere at the scene helped him lift
  1704. 1:02:28the energy; it's said several people
  1705. 1:02:30there even cried on the spot. Yes, yes,
  1706. 1:02:32yes, there really were people moved by
  1707. 1:02:34that atmosphere.
  1708. 1:02:35>> Exactly, so I feel that his momentum is
  1709. 1:02:37finally coming back.
  1710. 1:02:39>> As for Kevin Tsai, frankly, this has no
  1711. 1:02:41comparison to the Chou Tzu-yu incident.
  1712. 1:02:43Chou was just a young girl back then,
  1713. 1:02:45following her group, and when the group
  1714. 1:02:47did something that offended mainland
  1715. 1:02:48China, she was forced by her company to
  1716. 1:02:50apologize. Kevin Tsai, on the other
  1717. 1:02:52hand, was always an independent
  1718. 1:02:53individual, and he made his own
  1719. 1:02:55decisions. Right, and I have to call
  1720. 1:02:57him "Brother Kevin," because he's older
  1721. 1:02:59than me and has had so many years of
  1722. 1:03:00life experience.
  1723. 1:03:01>> He's so experienced and so smart; I
  1724. 1:03:03believe that whenever he does something
  1725. 1:03:05, he must be very clear about what he
  1726. 1:03:07is doing. So, whatever the consequences
  1727. 1:03:10may be, he should have known what he
  1728. 1:03:12was getting into, and he must bear them
  1729. 1:03:14. As for why he suddenly wrote that
  1730. 1:03:16article, honestly, I don't know. But if
  1731. 1:03:19you say it was due to pressure from
  1732. 1:03:20mainland China, what would writing that
  1733. 1:03:22article achieve? It's actually
  1734. 1:03:24meaningless. Plus, look, after he wrote
  1735. 1:03:26that, did people over there forgive him
  1736. 1:03:28? It doesn't seem so. Everyone still
  1737. 1:03:31feels that he's hedging, that he
  1738. 1:03:32doesn't even dare to call himself
  1739. 1:03:34Chinese. So personally, I think he
  1740. 1:03:37might have felt that his previous
  1741. 1:03:39actions caused hurt to his partners,
  1742. 1:03:41agents, and even some fans in mainland
  1743. 1:03:43China. I think he might have written
  1744. 1:03:46this to express that to them, but to
  1745. 1:03:47say this will help Kevin Tsai relaunch
  1746. 1:03:49his career in mainland China—I think
  1747. 1:03:51that's impossible. Mm.
  1748. 1:03:53>> So...
  1749. 1:03:53>> He said so himself.
  1750. 1:03:55>> Right, so I personally believe this is
  1751. 1:03:57his own individual decision. It’s
  1752. 1:03:59completely incomparable to the Chou
  1753. 1:04:01Tzu-yu incident. And I must say, if my
  1754. 1:04:03prediction is correct, in the future,
  1755. 1:04:05Chiang could call this typhoon a "
  1756. 1:04:07divine wind." I feel that after this
  1757. 1:04:09typhoon, the whole momentum has
  1758. 1:04:11completely changed, and Chiang
  1759. 1:04:12Wan-an’s energy and spirit are
  1760. 1:04:14different too. I think he’s come back
  1761. 1:04:16to life, and I’m very optimistic
  1762. 1:04:17about the year-end election.
  1763. 1:04:19>> Right, so the typhoon saved Chiang
  1764. 1:04:20Wan-an.
  1765. 1:04:21>> It wasn’t a matter of saving him;
  1766. 1:04:22there was no problem with declaring a
  1767. 1:04:24typhoon day this time, because those of
  1768. 1:04:25us in Taipei know that this was the
  1769. 1:04:27most frightening typhoon I’ve seen
  1770. 1:04:28all year. No, all of Taiwan except for
  1771. 1:04:30Kinmen closed down. Who else could have
  1772. 1:04:32done that? True, but while you might
  1773. 1:04:34not feel it in Southern Taiwan, it
  1774. 1:04:36really was the case in Northern Taiwan
  1775. 1:04:38this time. This typhoon brought many
  1776. 1:04:41issues to the surface, including the
  1777. 1:04:42problems with the roads mentioned
  1778. 1:04:44earlier. Everyone realizes that those
  1779. 1:04:48road patterns truly need moderate
  1780. 1:04:50adjustments; it’s not about saying "
  1781. 1:04:52no" to all speed reductions or tree
  1782. 1:04:54pruning, it’s just whether there is a
  1783. 1:04:56way to do it without making people feel
  1784. 1:04:58too many trees are being cut. Chiang
  1785. 1:05:04Wan-an compared Kevin Tsai to Chou
  1786. 1:05:06Tzu-yu yesterday—who exactly are you
  1787. 1:05:08trying to disgust with that? The Chou
  1788. 1:05:13Tzu-yu incident occurred in January
  1789. 1:05:162016. Chou Tzu-yu was 17 years old at
  1790. 1:05:19the time. She had just turned 16 or 17.
  1791. 1:05:22She is 27 this year, and Kevin Tsai is
  1792. 1:05:25about to get his Senior Citizen card
  1793. 1:05:27next year. Right.
  1794. 1:05:29>> So, you’re putting them together,
  1795. 1:05:31you’re treating Kevin Tsai like a
  1796. 1:05:32senior citizen—that’s something
  1797. 1:05:34he’s very afraid of now. Meaning, he
  1798. 1:05:37won’t have to pay for the bus, and
  1799. 1:05:39won’t need to pull out his phone to
  1800. 1:05:40pay. Even though Kevin Tsai is an adult
  1801. 1:05:46, after his post came out yesterday, I
  1802. 1:05:48honestly didn’t see anyone in public
  1803. 1:05:50opinion find his argument convincing.
  1804. 1:05:55Everyone just felt: why do you have to
  1805. 1:05:57pretend so hard? He supported the
  1806. 1:06:00Sunflower Movement back then. I’ve
  1807. 1:06:02said it before, the Sunflower Movement
  1808. 1:06:03was Taiwan’s color revolution. Let me
  1809. 1:06:05remind you, the 2014 Sunflower Movement
  1810. 1:06:07was in the same year as the color
  1811. 1:06:09revolution in Ukraine.
  1812. 1:06:10>> Yes.
  1813. 1:06:11>> Only two months apart, they were in the
  1814. 1:06:13same system. Just like Ukraine being
  1815. 1:06:15overthrown today, the so-called "
  1816. 1:06:16student list"—Ukraine says this was
  1817. 1:06:18fully orchestrated by the CIA, and they
  1818. 1:06:20recognize they were overthrown by the
  1819. 1:06:23CIA. We can settle those accounts later
  1820. 1:06:27, but today, when you see Kevin Tsai
  1821. 1:06:28making these statements, and you want
  1822. 1:06:30to sickeningly suggest that it’s as
  1823. 1:06:32if he’s under pressure from China.
  1824. 1:06:36You don't have to accept it, but you
  1825. 1:06:38can't go to China, seek endorsements,
  1826. 1:06:39and earn money, only to return and
  1827. 1:06:41support a Taiwan independence figure
  1828. 1:06:43wanted by the Chinese mainland. And
  1829. 1:06:45then what, the Chinese mainland isn't
  1830. 1:06:47allowed to speak up? I think the
  1831. 1:06:48official stance from mainland China has
  1832. 1:06:50been quite polite. Although a public
  1833. 1:06:54account wrote a post, they didn't name
  1834. 1:06:55him, and other mainland officials—as
  1835. 1:06:57long as you don't see Xinhua News
  1836. 1:06:59Agency, you don't see the People's
  1837. 1:07:01Daily, and you don't see CCTV naming
  1838. 1:07:02you, they are basically letting you off
  1839. 1:07:04the hook.
  1840. 1:07:06>> As a result, even the Taiwan Affairs
  1841. 1:07:08Office didn't name him. Right, so
  1842. 1:07:10actually, from the mainland's
  1843. 1:07:11perspective regarding Kevin Tsai this
  1844. 1:07:13time, I think they are just watching to
  1845. 1:07:15see what you do next. That's why Kevin
  1846. 1:07:19Tsai posted that thing yesterday and
  1847. 1:07:21showed more active participation at the
  1848. 1:07:23event. Although it still felt very
  1849. 1:07:27forced, and because he's an actor, he's
  1850. 1:07:30acting, so we can't really tell.
  1851. 1:07:33>> He's not an actor, he's a host. True,
  1852. 1:07:36but regardless, he showed more
  1853. 1:07:37participation in that setting. The real
  1854. 1:07:40suffering is that the "Blue Bird" crowd
  1855. 1:07:42had a very hard day yesterday. They
  1856. 1:07:46came out in full force to spin the
  1857. 1:07:47narrative, trying to flip the Kevin
  1858. 1:07:49Tsai situation back and start attacking
  1859. 1:07:51him. Their only logic, like Shen
  1860. 1:07:55Pao-yang's, is that because he was
  1861. 1:07:57under pressure from the CCP and immense
  1862. 1:07:59pressure from Beijing, no one should be
  1863. 1:08:01allowed to suppress Taiwanese people's
  1864. 1:08:03freedom of expression. But usually in
  1865. 1:08:06Taiwan, who do you feel is suppressing
  1866. 1:08:09your freedom of expression—the KMT or
  1867. 1:08:11the DPP?
  1868. 1:08:13>> I think this is a very real feeling for
  1869. 1:08:14Taiwanese people. But yesterday,
  1870. 1:08:18regarding Shen Pao-yang, I am reminding
  1871. 1:08:20Kevin Tsai that Shen Pao-yang claims to
  1872. 1:08:22be an expert in cognitive warfare. Shen
  1873. 1:08:25Pao-yang has a Ph.D. in criminal
  1874. 1:08:27psychology. If you look at what Shen
  1875. 1:08:29Pao-yang said about Kevin Tsai from the
  1876. 1:08:31perspective of a criminal psychology
  1877. 1:08:33expert, he believes that what Kevin
  1878. 1:08:35Tsai did yesterday...You, Kevin Tsai,
  1879. 1:08:37you are lying. Deep down you love me,
  1880. 1:08:40you support me, but you don't dare say
  1881. 1:08:42it, and you still have to act all
  1882. 1:08:43chummy with the mainland—no need to
  1883. 1:08:45be like that. Yesterday, Shen Pao-yang
  1884. 1:08:47used his professional background to
  1885. 1:08:49tell you that Kevin Tsai is being fake.
  1886. 1:08:51That he is still actually on my side.
  1887. 1:08:54Kevin Tsai, everything you did
  1888. 1:08:56yesterday was completely wiped away by
  1889. 1:08:58a single remark from Shen Pao-yang.
  1890. 1:09:00Unless Kevin Tsai continues, but anyway
  1891. 1:09:02, he's already had his fill for today.
  1892. 1:09:04Kevin, next time you come out, just
  1893. 1:09:07wave a No. 5, No. 5, No. 5; it will be
  1894. 1:09:10effective.
  1895. 1:09:11>> The whole issue of whether to take a
  1896. 1:09:13stand or not shouldn't actually be
  1897. 1:09:15something forced upon any artist. I
  1898. 1:09:17mean, which Hollywood artists don't
  1899. 1:09:19have the choice not to take a stand?
  1900. 1:09:21>> Now, if you're talking about young
  1901. 1:09:23girls who face pressure behind their
  1902. 1:09:24stances, we naturally support them, of
  1903. 1:09:26course.
  1904. 1:09:28>> But Kevin Tsai has years of experience
  1905. 1:09:30in society, and he is truly so much
  1906. 1:09:32more famous than I am.
  1907. 1:09:33>> Yeah.
  1908. 1:09:34>> He is also much wealthier than I am;
  1909. 1:09:36though that’s not the point, he is
  1910. 1:09:38indeed much wealthier than I am.
  1911. 1:09:40>> You are really being too humble.
  1912. 1:09:42>> He has reached such a level of
  1913. 1:09:43financial freedom. To say that someone
  1914. 1:09:47would pressure him...That would either
  1915. 1:09:48mean he is too greedy, or you are
  1916. 1:09:50insulting him; for me, those are the
  1917. 1:09:52only two interpretations.
  1918. 1:09:54>> Exactly, never try to explain Kevin
  1919. 1:09:56Tsai's actions from a financial
  1920. 1:09:58perspective. Right, you have to think,
  1921. 1:10:01he’s much wealthier than the vast
  1922. 1:10:02majority of people in Taiwan. I don't
  1923. 1:10:06know how rich Shen Pao-yang is, but
  1924. 1:10:08Kevin is already wealthier than most
  1925. 1:10:10people in Taiwan. If you say he
  1926. 1:10:14succumbed to pressure because of money,
  1927. 1:10:16I think anyone with less wealth than
  1928. 1:10:18Kevin wouldn't accept that; perhaps
  1929. 1:10:20only those with far more money than him
  1930. 1:10:21might believe it, right? So let's
  1931. 1:10:26discuss it in that way. Alright, lastly
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