From Wired to Wireless: Scaling Smart Building Integration and Energy Intelligence with IoT — Transcript
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- 0:00Alliance webinar.
- 0:03Hello everyone to the Lura Alliance
- 0:05webinar. Wire to wireless scaling smart
- 0:08building integration and energy
- 0:10intelligence with IoT. My name is Yan
- 0:12Philip Exner from Zenna International
- 0:14and I'm very happy to welcome you as
- 0:17host for today. Um on the next slide we
- 0:21do have some information about the
- 0:22housekeeping notes. So uh you have to
- 0:26know that this session is going to get
- 0:27recorded and you can see the video later
- 0:30on on the website of the alliance as a
- 0:34video on demand and uh you can type in
- 0:37questions regarding the webinar and the
- 0:39speeches all of the time and we answer
- 0:41them at the end of our Q&A session. So
- 0:45uh this is about the basic things from
- 0:47the housekeeping notes. Um on the next
- 0:50slide you'll see um that we have some
- 0:52information about the Laura Alliance. So
- 0:54I'll also keep it quite short at this
- 0:57point that um the alliance um has its
- 1:01journey from in the IoT landscape since
- 1:03more than 10 years and uh we are very
- 1:06glad that we um built up an ecosystem
- 1:09very wide which shows very good
- 1:12possibilities from various sectors and
- 1:14especially about the smart building
- 1:16domain that we are going to present
- 1:18today. Um
- 1:20in case if you haven't joined the lower
- 1:22alliance so far, there is a direct link
- 1:24to see uh where you can get there and to
- 1:28join the benefits as uh we have it also
- 1:30today during this webinar here. On the
- 1:33next slide, um I'm going to hand over to
- 1:37some kind of introduction that we're
- 1:39having today. And uh I want to also want
- 1:42to give some introduction regarding the
- 1:45reason and the success for scaling that
- 1:48we'll see here in the smart building
- 1:49sector for IoT.
- 1:52Um on the next slide um it's an
- 1:56information about uh where do we need
- 1:59the smart buildings in general which are
- 2:01the sectors which are relevant and are
- 2:04important. You can see that especially
- 2:06when it comes to the domains of the
- 2:08business, business owners, the
- 2:10residential domains and also industrial
- 2:14fields. We do have also in those fields
- 2:16or buildings which need to be uh
- 2:20improved with smart um building
- 2:22technologies with Lauravan and um this
- 2:25is all plays a role where you have the
- 2:27demand for monitoring and maintenance
- 2:31and where you also have and this is a
- 2:34very good point for Lola when it
- 2:36exceeding the technological requirements
- 2:38when you just need to have um a wide
- 2:41possibility of various ecosystem a very
- 2:44use case and where do you need to have a
- 2:46good ecosystem in terms of sensors,
- 2:49gateways and solutions and especially
- 2:52also when it comes to buildings where we
- 2:54later on see some very good examples
- 2:56from our speakers. We do have a lot of
- 2:59existing buildings but what we do um do
- 3:03need to have are existing solutions for
- 3:06retrofitting those buildings and this is
- 3:08a key uh component in order to make
- 3:11those use cases successful.
- 3:14Next slide. Um
- 3:17what is um the basic or one of the basic
- 3:20foundations of the things we're talking
- 3:22today are one of the findings that you
- 3:24can also see in the research study by
- 3:27Beum Research. Um this is going to get
- 3:31presented as well at the um at our Guru
- 3:34Alliance web page. And you see basically
- 3:37also the building sector itself as a
- 3:39very strong sector and uh you see also
- 3:42the strong dependences between the smart
- 3:45building sector as well as to the smart
- 3:47city uh topics because the use case
- 3:50often overlapping. uh me myself I'm also
- 3:54the the chair for the smart city at
- 3:56smart building work group and the reason
- 3:58also to bring those things together is
- 4:01that we also have in terms of the use
- 4:02case and also in terms of the the
- 4:05operating uses many correlating issues
- 4:08in the way where you see those
- 4:10overlapping use cases but we're going to
- 4:12focusing on a specific thing of the use
- 4:15cases by today just one pre thing on the
- 4:18you can see on the next slide those are
- 4:20our famous lura alliance infographics
- 4:24and uh as you can see all of those small
- 4:26yellow dots are dedicated use case that
- 4:29I just mentioned and as you can see here
- 4:32either it's a residential building or
- 4:34it's an office building you have many
- 4:37many uh different chances and
- 4:39possibilities of use cases to implement
- 4:42in either newly built things or
- 4:45especially the existing buildings and um
- 4:48also the modes of operation if you're um
- 4:51office operator of it comes to heat
- 4:53systems to energy monitoring are very
- 4:55wide and we will see a very good
- 4:57overview of those different kind of use
- 5:00cases later on on the next slide
- 5:04we're already
- 5:06in um in a way that we are scaling
- 5:10Lauravan we uh also saw in the beach
- 5:14research report that there was an um an
- 5:18annual growth rate from 60% full seen in
- 5:22the last years until 2028.
- 5:24And when you just take a look at the
- 5:26device, we're very proud as Laura Aines
- 5:28to exceeding at the moment 125 million
- 5:31of Luran and devices globally deployed.
- 5:34And if you take a look backwards in the
- 5:36last year, we had an annual growth rate
- 5:39of 25%. So this is actually a really
- 5:42impressive growth rate and shows the
- 5:44potential and the versatility of Luroan.
- 5:48The next slide is um is now the thing
- 5:52that I want to get on to the topics that
- 5:55we're talking today. So our topic is
- 5:57from wire to wireless scaling smart
- 5:59building integration with energy
- 6:00intelligence with IoT and I'm very glad
- 6:03and very happy that either you on the
- 6:06one hand side you as a visitor or
- 6:09audience are there but I'm very happy
- 6:10that I can uh present today a couple of
- 6:13lura alliance members to present their
- 6:15use cases. So we have from Elvis um
- 6:20talking about the building um and then
- 6:24for the heat system integration on the
- 6:26one hand side we'll have also Mario from
- 6:29um um
- 6:31from Terrocon um to talk about the
- 6:34evolution of um wired rooms classical
- 6:39wired rooms to wireless rooms. We have V
- 6:42Violeta from um climate talking about
- 6:44the thing about climate and energy
- 6:46controls and Mikuel from Veco about the
- 6:51smart buildings in terms of the
- 6:53monitoring and energy controls. So those
- 6:55is a very wide range of um of speakers
- 7:00and topics today embracing the whole
- 7:02topics of smart sensoring in the uh with
- 7:06the IoT devices in the smart building
- 7:08session. And now I'm handing over my
- 7:11virtual microphone to a from Elvis. The
- 7:14floor is here. Thanks a lot.
- 7:20>> Thank you.
- 7:22Um
- 7:24so as just a short intro, my name is a
- 7:27account manager of Elsis. Um, and a
- 7:30short intro of the company for those who
- 7:33don't know us. Uh, we're a Swedish
- 7:35wireless sensor manufacturer for smart
- 7:38building cities and industries and based
- 7:41in Sweden and have over 20 years of
- 7:44experience of developing high quality
- 7:47sensors. Um, quality and reliability is
- 7:50at the core of everything we do. And
- 7:54we focus on long-term performance, ease
- 7:57of installation, and also low
- 7:59maintenance for our products. And this
- 8:01has made us a trusted partner of
- 8:03customers um worldwide with more than
- 8:06500,000 sensors installed across a wide
- 8:09range of applications.
- 8:12And uh as you might know a lot of us our
- 8:15sensors are based for indoor climate
- 8:17control, energy efficiency, dynamic
- 8:20workplaces and uh industrial monitoring.
- 8:23And by delivering accurate and reliable
- 8:25data over many years, we help customers
- 8:28optimize buildings uh operations while
- 8:31reducing both costs and environmental
- 8:34impacts.
- 8:36So with the technologies such as
- 8:37Lauravan and others in our portfolio, we
- 8:40have the opportunity to to participate
- 8:43in many different projects across the
- 8:45market and uh all with varying needs.
- 8:49So today I would like to show you how
- 8:51you can work smarter in buildings and
- 8:54you can change the slide. Yes, thank
- 8:56you. Um smarter and buildings and
- 8:59significantly reducing costs at the same
- 9:02time. And this by showing two great use
- 9:05cases that our wireless sensors are in.
- 9:07And by optimizing how how energy and
- 9:10spaces are used within buildings, uh
- 9:13resources can be freed up and instead
- 9:15invested where they create real value
- 9:18for the business or society
- 9:22and I think you can change
- 9:25slide again.
- 9:29Yes. Uh in many properties today uh
- 9:31energy is used inefficiently without
- 9:33having anyone having full insight into
- 9:36it and uh buildings are heated even when
- 9:38they are empty. Ventilation systems run
- 9:41at full capacity in rooms that are
- 9:43rarely used and cooling is produced for
- 9:47areas where no one is present. This is
- 9:49not only inefficient, it also drives up
- 9:52energy costs unnecessarily.
- 9:54And uh one major advantage by using well
- 9:57wireless sensors uh in the is the
- 9:59flexibility of it. Uh sensors can easily
- 10:02be added even after a building has uh
- 10:05already been constructed without any
- 10:08costly rewiring or or major renovations.
- 10:13Um and this opens up a lot of
- 10:14possibilities for well property owners
- 10:17and facility managers to adapt and
- 10:19expand uh their smart building solution
- 10:22over time. Um,
- 10:25and the wireless installations also help
- 10:28reduce both installation complexity and
- 10:30overall project costs, making smart
- 10:32building technology more accessible and
- 10:35scalable.
- 10:37So, how do you take the step toward a
- 10:40more smart building? And in this case,
- 10:41we are going to talk about a more energy
- 10:44efficient building with wireless
- 10:46sensors. Uh and um one of our great
- 10:51partners Stockholm XGE from Sweden has a
- 10:54great example of this where they have
- 10:57installed sensors uh for their customers
- 10:59Stockholm. Um and that was to to measure
- 11:03temperature and humidity in apartments.
- 11:06It's one of Sweden largest property
- 11:09rental firms in Stockholm. uh and aims
- 11:12to become uh carbon neutral by 2030 and
- 11:16also reduce carbon emissions across its
- 11:18operations.
- 11:21So previously they adjusted the heating
- 11:23based on outdoor temperature but this
- 11:25often resulted in individual apartments
- 11:28becoming either too warm or too cold. I
- 11:32think we can change the slide.
- 11:41>> Yeah, thank you.
- 11:43Um the solution was wireless sensors
- 11:45installed in the hallway of each
- 11:48apartment and in total there were 22,000
- 11:52sensors deployed to measure temperature
- 11:54and humidity and the data sent through a
- 11:57gateway to the property owners building
- 12:00management system. And with access to to
- 12:03the real-time uh indoor climate data,
- 12:05they were able to optimize the heating
- 12:07and ensure a more stable indoor
- 12:10temperature in every apartment.
- 12:14As a result, this uh property owner
- 12:17estimated energy savings equivalent to
- 12:21heating demand of 1,200 apartments while
- 12:25also reducing operation costs by 6% per
- 12:29year. And this was the first year. Um,
- 12:32and this case shows how well smart
- 12:35wireless sensor technology and real-time
- 12:38data can transform property management
- 12:41from reactive to proactive. And um, by
- 12:46understanding the actual indoor climate
- 12:48in each apartment, the CP company was uh
- 12:51able to improve tenant comfort. they
- 12:54were possible to lower engine energy
- 12:57consumption and also significantly
- 12:59reduce carbon emissions which was in the
- 13:01case here. Um and the result clearly
- 13:05demonstrate that sustainability and
- 13:07profitability can go in hand in hand
- 13:08here proving that datadriven building
- 13:11operations are becoming a key part of
- 13:14the future and uh sustainable real
- 13:17estate as well.
- 13:19And I think you can change the slide
- 13:21here as well. Thank you. Um, but smart
- 13:25buildings are not only about energy
- 13:26optimization, of course. Uh, wireless
- 13:29sensors can also be used to optimize how
- 13:32offices and building spaces are
- 13:34utilized, for example. And this is
- 13:36exactly what we're going to take a
- 13:38closer look at now through one of our
- 13:41great fantastic partners, Aensa has been
- 13:43in H, and I think it's quite still
- 13:46ongoing. Um
- 13:48and just short, a Kenza platform
- 13:51provider uh worked with a Swiss um
- 13:54public organization and they needed a
- 13:57scalable solution to to monitor and
- 14:01improve the use of office spaces across
- 14:03its buildings with the goal of improving
- 14:07efficiency and also supporting long-term
- 14:11workspace strategy.
- 14:14So this project covered five buildings
- 14:16and included a deployment of our
- 14:19sensors, occupancy sensors across
- 14:237,600 desks and also in 1,200 meeting
- 14:27rooms.
- 14:30So this installation was of course with
- 14:33our sensors and as I mentioned before it
- 14:36eliminates the need for costly and time
- 14:38consuming cabling and uh extensive
- 14:42installation work. Uh instead the
- 14:44sensors could just be mounted directly
- 14:47on the walls or the desks and be up and
- 14:50running immediately.
- 14:51And through the combination with the
- 14:54with our sensors uh and the Aensa
- 14:57platform that gives you valuable
- 14:59insights of your building, the customer
- 15:01gained access to both valuable insights
- 15:05for reporting and also through a PowerBI
- 15:09dashboard. H they could also have the
- 15:11application of find your desk solution
- 15:14uh to help them quickly locate available
- 15:17workspaces in real time. For example,
- 15:21um
- 15:23this type of installation uh with
- 15:25occupancy in offices or large buildings
- 15:27is uh something we increasingly see
- 15:30across the market today. And the great
- 15:32thing is you don't need to decide today
- 15:33what your need will be before a building
- 15:36is constructed. You can expand the smart
- 15:38building solution over time.
- 15:41What is also great about an installation
- 15:43like this with desk sensors and a cupcy
- 15:46is that many of our customers uh by
- 15:49using real-time data organizations can
- 15:52reduce unused space, improve operational
- 15:56efficiency and in some cases even avoid
- 15:58unnecessary climate intensive new
- 16:01construction when sufficient capacity
- 16:04already exist in in empty buildings. Um
- 16:08so there's some very valuable insights
- 16:10here. Um and I think you can skip to the
- 16:13next slide.
- 16:17Um to conclude that was the two use
- 16:20cases that I had. Um and this example as
- 16:23I said before show how wireless sensor
- 16:25technology can help create a smarter and
- 16:28more sustainable and specifically a more
- 16:31costefficient buildings. And by using
- 16:33real-time data, these property owners
- 16:36can optimize both energy usage and
- 16:38workspace utilization while improving
- 16:42comfort for the people inside the
- 16:44buildings.
- 16:45And one big advantage, as I've said
- 16:48throughout this webinar now, is the
- 16:50flexibility for wireless technology that
- 16:52it enables. Um, you can easily add and
- 16:56expand after a building is completed. It
- 16:59not only lowers installation costs but
- 17:01also gives gives buildings the ability
- 17:04to evolve and become smarter over time
- 17:07as the needs and um opportunities arise.
- 17:12Um and that was it from from Elsis. Um
- 17:17thank you. Um
- 17:20yeah
- 17:28and thanks a lot Edah for this point. Uh
- 17:31the next one in our discussion round
- 17:33Marco deitz from Tamogan floor is yours
- 17:38may thanks for the introduction also for
- 17:40hosting us today for his webinar. Um as
- 17:44we already heard that today's webinar is
- 17:46under the scope of scaling smart
- 17:49building and integration and energy
- 17:50intelligence with IoT technology. We
- 17:54want to focus um
- 17:55>> oh um Marco your your um audio is a
- 17:59little fuzzy.
- 18:02>> Okay. So is it now better?
- 18:04>> Um wait can you try and talk again?
- 18:08>> Yeah. Hello.
- 18:09>> Uh no not really. Um, can you try
- 18:14replplugging in your headphones?
- 18:24So, I reconnected my phone. Hopefully
- 18:26now you can hear me perfect. Okay.
- 18:28>> Yeah,
- 18:29>> better.
- 18:29>> Yeah, many thanks. Okay. As we already
- 18:32heard that um the today's webinar is
- 18:35under the scope of scaling smart
- 18:37building integration and energy
- 18:38intelligence. We want to focus um today
- 18:42with our part here on the hybrid
- 18:44intelligence that um comes up if we
- 18:46combine wired and wireless technology
- 18:48together smart buildings and we want to
- 18:51have a closer look on um single room
- 18:54control for that. Yeah, my name is
- 18:56Marco. As already mentioned, I'm the
- 18:58technical product manager at um Tamocon.
- 19:00And since now nearly four years, we are
- 19:04doing we are producing sensor solutions
- 19:07for Hback applications and um yeah
- 19:09building automations.
- 19:11On the next slide, I want to start
- 19:14today's um on my part with a small
- 19:17dilemma that nearly hopefully everybody
- 19:20knows who is yeah in this building the
- 19:24building game. On the one hand side we
- 19:26have the user requirements on a smart
- 19:28building and the other hand side the
- 19:30operational requirements that somehow
- 19:33might stand against each other. Users
- 19:36for example want to have situational
- 19:39adaptive their comfort and well-being is
- 19:41very important and on the other hand
- 19:43side the costs for operate for running a
- 19:47building is also the most important
- 19:49point for the building operators.
- 19:53But a really smart building is not only
- 19:55dedicated to run somehow or to function.
- 19:58It also has to contribute to the um
- 20:01users um well-being within the building.
- 20:08Yeah, on the next hand side then we see
- 20:09how can wireless IoT technology then try
- 20:12to um solve this dilemma. How can um
- 20:15yeah this technology helps us with that
- 20:17and for that we want to go to the single
- 20:20room control case study as we at Tamocon
- 20:22see that um in the room in the real
- 20:24single room control this is where the
- 20:27energy is consumed where um that
- 20:29integration takes place as this is the
- 20:31place where um the users of the building
- 20:34are somehow connected with the building.
- 20:39Yeah, I guess the best step is that we
- 20:41first of all have a look on the status
- 20:43quo that we have in yeah commercial
- 20:45buildings. For sure you have many new um
- 20:49buildings which are freshly equipped
- 20:50with technology with some technical
- 20:52building equipment. They have um very
- 20:55good connectivity across all systems.
- 20:58you have data transparency and yeah they
- 21:01they are nearly optimized to find a
- 21:04balance between the users and the
- 21:06operators um operational requirements.
- 21:09On the other hand side,
- 21:12if we talk about um older buildings or
- 21:14all the let me say existing stuff that
- 21:16we find on the next slide here is that
- 21:20we often times see duplicated systems
- 21:23which are somehow installed in buildings
- 21:25and yeah which are no longer maintained
- 21:27and which causes a kind of data silos.
- 21:30That means data somewhere are exist in a
- 21:33building but they not coming out of
- 21:35that. And yeah most of the buildings we
- 21:38are living in um in the next um 30 to 40
- 21:42years are already built. That means we
- 21:45have enormous retrofit potential out of
- 21:47there. And yeah especially when we have
- 21:50a look on the latest papers from the
- 21:52European Union they estimate that around
- 21:5523 of uh of all buildings have this
- 21:59potential to be energetically
- 22:02um retrofitted.
- 22:05Yeah. Next we have to I want to um
- 22:09detail a little bit more what we
- 22:11understand with a single room control
- 22:12and why is um possible to why is it it's
- 22:16necessary to
- 22:18connect this in order to achieve an
- 22:20energy intelligence. There are typical
- 22:23components that you need for a room
- 22:25control single room control. It's a
- 22:27ventilation. It's um yeah fan call unit
- 22:29for example. It's a heating or cooling
- 22:31system. It's somehow an interface where
- 22:34you can control the room where you can
- 22:35um adjust something and you need sensors
- 22:38for detecting the room's actual status.
- 22:41In most times um this are wired somehow
- 22:45they are connected with each other and
- 22:47yeah the room is running for sure. You
- 22:50also see sometimes um radio or radio
- 22:53sensors which are radio devices which um
- 22:57which are also in the systems but mostly
- 23:00they are wired. If you have then an up
- 23:02connection to an upstream system like a
- 23:04building management system um those are
- 23:07most times realized by traditional um
- 23:10protocols like backnet mod bus and oh kx
- 23:14so what does this mean for us um if we
- 23:18talk about so many different components
- 23:21we'll see on the next slide that it can
- 23:23up in situations like that that you have
- 23:25um somehow points where all this cable
- 23:27came together and this causes real me
- 23:30masses And yeah, but on the other hand
- 23:32side um I guess everybody will agree
- 23:34that we won't get rid of cable in the
- 23:36future. They have their clear advantages
- 23:40where you have for example if you talk
- 23:42about safety where we talk about um the
- 23:44amount of data that can be transmitted
- 23:46about latency times. So we um totally um
- 23:51we are sure that we somehow will have
- 23:54hybrid solutions um within buildings
- 23:57also within single room controls also in
- 23:59the future.
- 24:02On the next slide I try to um yeah
- 24:05summarize how
- 24:07how such a um setup could look like in
- 24:10reality. You have this um the setup that
- 24:12I already mentioned the components that
- 24:14you need. Then you have a room
- 24:15controller that is yeah controlling this
- 24:18somehow and where you they are connected
- 24:20wirelessly
- 24:22wireless with wired together in order to
- 24:25operate the room as a standalone
- 24:27solution. The setup can be in 20 30 40
- 24:31100 times together in one application
- 24:34and then you can connect this via um bus
- 24:37protocols to an upstream system. But in
- 24:40many applications this connectivity to
- 24:43um building management system is not
- 24:45possible as there are no um wires for
- 24:49communication with the building
- 24:51management system and that is where
- 24:52exactly where Laura comes into the game
- 24:54and where we see the big advantage. If
- 24:58you change the interface between this
- 25:00room and the upper stream system for
- 25:03example with the Lauravan interface, it
- 25:06opens up all these advantages that
- 25:09Lauravan gives you which we try to
- 25:11summarize on the next slide.
- 25:15If you have a Lauravan um communication
- 25:18for from the room directly to an
- 25:22upstream system, you can take advantage
- 25:24of keeping the legacy infrastructure as
- 25:26it is. you are not forced to remove all
- 25:28the components which are within a room
- 25:31um and just have to add an additional
- 25:35interface to it for connecting it to
- 25:38yeah all well-known systems to building
- 25:40management system or also to cloud-based
- 25:42control algorithms to um yeah
- 25:45optimization algorithms that also can be
- 25:47um executed then on that part also it's
- 25:50very easy to um use this for retrofit
- 25:53applications that means you don't have
- 25:55to shut down um a room for lay for
- 25:59running communication cables to it
- 26:03or establishing a bus connection. Um you
- 26:07can also take advantage of the big
- 26:08coverage that Lauravan
- 26:11gives you within a building due to its
- 26:13deep um radio penetration.
- 26:17Yeah. typical use case where this
- 26:20application can be
- 26:23can be run or is installed that we find
- 26:25on next hand slide I try to um work it
- 26:28out a little bit is typically for
- 26:30apartment hotels or offices. This are
- 26:32most times applications which are
- 26:35somehow similar to each other. the rooms
- 26:37are comparable or the
- 26:40the units are comparable and for for
- 26:43that application it's very easy to
- 26:46achieve this scalation that we talked in
- 26:49the beginning and in the end also this
- 26:53energy intelligence when we are able to
- 26:56control the energy consumption that we
- 26:59need for the single room control
- 27:02yeah there I hope um that that part I
- 27:05could make clear how we see that yeah
- 27:09wired and wireless solutions together
- 27:12can help us to um integrate the scaling
- 27:17to increase this um smart building
- 27:20integration and scale it and also to
- 27:22increase the energy intelligence um with
- 27:25I in buildings when we are able to yeah
- 27:30control the energy consumption directly
- 27:33um in the buildings
- 27:35That's it from my side so far and then I
- 27:38hand over to Violeta from M Climate
- 27:42to see what they want to present to us.
- 27:45Many thanks.
- 27:48>> Thanks Marco. Hi everyone. Um really
- 27:50nice to be talking to you today and
- 27:53joining the Laura Alliance and uh some
- 27:54ecosystem partners to discuss the topic.
- 27:57It is quite a range of topics uh that we
- 28:00have to cover. Uh Eda mentioned um the
- 28:02challenges of buildings. Uh also Marco
- 28:04managed the integration piece as well
- 28:06and I'm really going to focus also on
- 28:08the IoT and BMS. Uh if we can move on to
- 28:11the next slide, just a few words about M
- 28:13Climate. Uh we company uh based in
- 28:16Bulgaria. We produce in two
- 28:17manufacturing facilities um there. Um
- 28:22all of our clients are around Europe,
- 28:24but we're also covering now USA and
- 28:25Middle East with over 60 markets. and we
- 28:28have over 2,500 um international
- 28:31clients. U what we focus on is not
- 28:34simply sensors, we also do a lot of
- 28:36actuators. And I think the beauty of uh
- 28:38the system is that we're not only
- 28:40monitoring and sensing the data, but we
- 28:42also allowing people to control it. On
- 28:45the next slide,
- 28:47I'm just going to briefly talk about BMS
- 28:49and IoT. uh historically BMS and IoT
- 28:52were in a bit of a competition and uh
- 28:54people who are focused on BMS were
- 28:56seeing maybe IoT is a threat and again
- 28:59the evolution of IoT and Laura 1 is just
- 29:02a it's a way to show that actually IoT
- 29:05works on a big scale. So some people got
- 29:08discouraged in the past using B2C
- 29:10technologies like Wi-Fi, Bluetooth,
- 29:12Ziggb uh to achieve something that uh
- 29:15wasn't possible. So right now we have uh
- 29:17Laura 1 as a scalable technology that
- 29:19allows us to have battery operated
- 29:21devices with 10 years of battery
- 29:23lifetime. I think no one mentioned that
- 29:25um so far but really that's a key
- 29:27differentiating factor for most of our
- 29:30customers uh which are building
- 29:31something to scale. So BMS on one side
- 29:34was built for the plant. It was not uh
- 29:36allowing room by room control. One of
- 29:38the part most important part is that
- 29:40this was based on cost. So again, you
- 29:43had zone level, HVAC control, um
- 29:45different chillers and air handling
- 29:47units, but none of them had the data
- 29:49points that they required to make the
- 29:52building more efficient. So all of the
- 29:54BMS that's existing in place is uh
- 29:56sometimes legacy BMS from 20 years ago.
- 30:00Some buildings don't even have a BMS.
- 30:02And again, it all required a lot of
- 30:04wiring, costly work, and slower
- 30:06repayment. So if we were to add wired
- 30:08sensors to for room control, we had to
- 30:11close a building have a downtime. Right
- 30:13now with the Laura one IoT technology,
- 30:16we have really no downtime uh for
- 30:18closing a building. We can automate it
- 30:20within a day. Uh we have customers with
- 30:23over 100 to 200 rooms that are
- 30:25automating a building within a day and
- 30:27really that's uh with minimum uh
- 30:29downtime for um any operations of the
- 30:32building which allows also a quick
- 30:33repayment. Again, nothing that we talked
- 30:36so far about, but all these savings that
- 30:38can be achieved with a combination of
- 30:39BMS and IoT will allow a return
- 30:42investment within uh one heating season
- 30:44or cooling season depending on the
- 30:46geography to two. And that is quite um a
- 30:50big selling point for the combination of
- 30:52the two technologies. So when we bring
- 30:54those two together, we actually give BMS
- 30:57better inputs. We're not saying that
- 30:59they're competing with each other,
- 31:00they're complementing each other. We
- 31:02also allow operators who are knowing the
- 31:05experience of BMS to something that they
- 31:08already know instead of using a software
- 31:10on top of that they're just uh getting
- 31:12more data points into the system that
- 31:14they already know and operate. So we are
- 31:16also removing um most of the cost
- 31:18required for further wiring and then we
- 31:21kind of unlock this whole project um
- 31:23value that stays within uh losing the
- 31:27room by room control and just having a
- 31:29zone level uh BMS system. Again on top
- 31:32of that we have a lot of partners that
- 31:33use AI to do analytics uh for example
- 31:36with the seaman's connect box and bible
- 31:39in Switzerland. So really the
- 31:41opportunities for BMS and IoT go further
- 31:44beyond in the future uh with AI. Uh on
- 31:47the next slide
- 31:50it's just a quick presentation of power
- 31:52sensors and actuators. So um in addition
- 31:55to the standard sensors like humidity
- 31:57and temperature and occupancy we have
- 31:59developed a lot of actuators who control
- 32:01which allow you to control around 80% of
- 32:03the energy in the building. This is
- 32:05quite significant for retrofitting and
- 32:07again most of the retrofit is based on
- 32:09older buildings historical heritage
- 32:11buildings that really have thick walls
- 32:14where the lower one technology is best
- 32:16um applicable for. So on one side is the
- 32:19first Laura one tier view on the market
- 32:21which which we allow to have up to 35%
- 32:24savings by just using uh that retrofit
- 32:28alone. On the other side we have fan
- 32:30code thermostats um something like the
- 32:32the presentation as well. It is uh a
- 32:35wired piece that allows you to control
- 32:37the building cooling and heating. Uh and
- 32:40again it is allowing you to on board on
- 32:42a room by room basis. We have the
- 32:44wireless thermosite as well that allows
- 32:45you to control multiple TRVs in a room.
- 32:48Uh it has occupancy detection so you can
- 32:50make scenarios around if a building is
- 32:52not occupied or a room specifically is
- 32:54not occupied you don't have to heat it.
- 32:57And we're launching soon um smart AC
- 32:59controller in most of the warmer
- 33:01countries in the Mediterranean. we have
- 33:03a lot of individual split AC units that
- 33:06are not controlled within the BMS. Um on
- 33:09the next slide,
- 33:13since I mentioned actuators again to the
- 33:16standard humidity and temperature
- 33:18sensors and the standard humidity and
- 33:20temperature sensors with occupancy
- 33:21detection, we have developed a few
- 33:23switches. Again, the switches are a very
- 33:26it's a cabled way again, but very much
- 33:28easier to install. They fit between any
- 33:31uh switch or power socket and allows you
- 33:34to take over control of let's say
- 33:36vending machines, fans, presentation
- 33:38screens, even uh desks at um the office
- 33:42where you can just uh first get uh
- 33:44metering if you need it's submetering so
- 33:47electric power control. You have the dry
- 33:49switch as well uh which allows you to um
- 33:52have um the dry switch relay for on and
- 33:55off and it allows you to put schedules
- 33:57in all those uh equipment that you have
- 33:59plugged into a socket. On the next
- 34:02slide,
- 34:05I think here I just picked a few cases
- 34:07uh just to illustrate the BMS and IoT
- 34:10together. Instead of just having IoT uh
- 34:13data going into a platform that is not
- 34:15connected to the BMS, uh I've picked
- 34:17some examples where these two
- 34:19technologies work together quite well. I
- 34:21probably won't have time to go through
- 34:23all of the examples. I will pick one or
- 34:24two. Uh here is educational
- 34:26institutions. I have another slide that
- 34:28is about health care and we have uh
- 34:31public buildings and offices. But
- 34:33essentially u at your own time I could
- 34:35share more slides but right now I just
- 34:37want to illustrate how easy it works to
- 34:39have the BMS integration. So you
- 34:41wouldn't necessarily have to do uh
- 34:43coding and a lot of work on the on that
- 34:46piece. You will have to have the sensors
- 34:48on one side and the actuators that I
- 34:50mentioned. You will have a gateway that
- 34:52is not a standard Laura one gateway.
- 34:54It's a Laura 1 gateway that converts
- 34:56Laura 1 into uh BMS protocols like
- 34:59backnet mob bus kx 3D omniadara. So
- 35:04essentially um your your setup is quite
- 35:06easy. Again, we still have one gateway
- 35:08for the full fuel building. Maybe two,
- 35:10maybe five. In this case of the Brussels
- 35:13University of British, it's uh nine
- 35:15gateways that we had. Uh it's quite a
- 35:17wide building. Again, right now we have
- 35:19uh 420
- 35:21Vicky's and another 200 air quality
- 35:24sensors, but the installation itself,
- 35:26the nine gateways cover um 2,000 devices
- 35:29that we're currently installing without
- 35:31needing to add more gateways because we
- 35:33managed to get the whole building uh
- 35:34with that. With the first pilot phase,
- 35:36we managed to save 31.5% of the energy
- 35:39cost. There was a gateway in the middle
- 35:41from Colorado that made those uh points
- 35:44from the Vicki uh as native objects to
- 35:47the backnet BMS and that was really u an
- 35:50easy way to do it. So the the university
- 35:52itself with its own facility management
- 35:54and property management together with
- 35:56Colorado which was the gateway
- 35:57manufacturer managed to install those uh
- 36:00devices quite quickly and get to those
- 36:02returns within one year. Um on the other
- 36:05side I'm just showing another uh school
- 36:07again over three floors. uh it's
- 36:09classrooms and some apartments uh 130
- 36:12devices uh a few third party sensors
- 36:16this is also illustrating the beauty of
- 36:17Laura 1an it's open protocol you can mi
- 36:20mix and match different sensor providers
- 36:22and manufacturers and then integrate all
- 36:25this data uh without without any
- 36:28integration issues with the existing uh
- 36:29building management system in this case
- 36:31we achieve 35% savings again from
- 36:34switching to normal from normal TVs to
- 36:36the dickv
- 36:38Laura one tier V and got to 18 months
- 36:41return investment achieved. On the next
- 36:44slide
- 36:56Chancy
- 37:01>> is it not showing?
- 37:03>> No.
- 37:03>> Okay.
- 37:04>> Oh yeah. Yeah.
- 37:05>> Okay. Great.
- 37:06>> So yeah. So this is just an example and
- 37:08I won't won't walk through all of the
- 37:10examples here. Uh it's just mentioning
- 37:12that healthcare and welfare again
- 37:14historical buildings that are uh with an
- 37:17old BMS system are very much um our
- 37:20target to benefit from energy savings
- 37:21and in most cases we've proven the 30%
- 37:24savings and 30% and above savings. And
- 37:27here it's just another illustration that
- 37:29it doesn't matter how big your project
- 37:30is. on on the very right right hand side
- 37:32we have uh rehabilitation center in
- 37:35Norway with only 70 devices and on the
- 37:38other side we have the 2,000 devices
- 37:40that I mentioned in the university so
- 37:42really doesn't matter the scale of the
- 37:44project everything can have the BMS
- 37:46integration with IoT here I think I have
- 37:49two more examples of different gateways
- 37:52in the middle like the seams connect box
- 37:55and cycling BMS essentially they allowed
- 37:58those uh Laura one points data points
- 38:00points to come as native uh in the
- 38:02integration to the existing BMS allowing
- 38:04for this to scale much quicker uh for
- 38:06all sorts of um institutions and again
- 38:09uh thank you very much for the time and
- 38:11um I'll hand over to Michael and yeah
- 38:14the slides will be available with more
- 38:16details from us on the integration
- 38:17between BMS and IoT.
- 38:28Hello everybody. Uh well, thank you very
- 38:31much Vonita for the introduction and and
- 38:34to my other uh colleagues from the
- 38:37industry for for all this insightful
- 38:40information. So let me present myself.
- 38:42I'm Michael. I'm an account manager at
- 38:45Wico overlooking the international
- 38:48business. Um maybe just a few words
- 38:52about what we we come from if we thank
- 38:56you. Uh so WCO is a is a European
- 39:00manufacturer of Lawan sensors. We're
- 39:02actually based in France. We have a
- 39:04couple of ENT entities. We do produce
- 39:06our products locally in France. So there
- 39:09are 100
- 39:11French bred devices. Uh to date uh Wico
- 39:15has um has uh over
- 39:2040 plus certified Lauraan devices. Uh we
- 39:25also have
- 39:27OEM activity. Uh
- 39:30actually WO is is a has a 30-year-old
- 39:34experience in RF technology and
- 39:38obviously many manufacturing electronic
- 39:41components.
- 39:42Uh so altogether we are based out of
- 39:45Briti where everything happens. And uh
- 39:48really today the idea is for us to show
- 39:52you how scalable uh uh we can provide
- 39:57help our partners obviously being in the
- 40:00Lawan environment it's a entire
- 40:04ecosystem just not collecting data from
- 40:07a Lawan standpoint but there are we also
- 40:09have other industry partners on which we
- 40:13heavily rely on in order to to build
- 40:16projects. So it's like more like a team
- 40:19effort. Um we do have interoperable
- 40:25wireless sensing solutions. uh and maybe
- 40:28a little note on the various challenges
- 40:32that we face uh in the industry whether
- 40:35it's in smart building whether it's in
- 40:38energy efficiency uh industrial
- 40:41environment or also uh we we we cover
- 40:45ATEX certified environments in some
- 40:49cases which include explosive
- 40:52environments. So uh Wiko is also al also
- 40:56specializes in in that department. Um
- 41:01so maybe if we can move to the next
- 41:03slide. Thank you.
- 41:07So uh about all about what products um
- 41:11we try to make it seamless as possible
- 41:14to uh integrate our products in in the
- 41:18the ecosystem. Obviously, I'm sure most
- 41:21of the people are more than well aware
- 41:24of the uh the uh the law architecture
- 41:27and and what it needs to to to bring. Um
- 41:31so maybe we can skip that one and move
- 41:34on to the next slide please. Uh Chy.
- 41:39Uh so seamless integration into building
- 41:42ecosystems. So obviously the the overall
- 41:46idea is to uh is to make it as simple as
- 41:49possible. I mentioned several partners.
- 41:53There are a lot more than the the ones
- 41:55which are actually shown here. Uh but we
- 41:58are talking about gateway manufacturers.
- 42:00We're talking about LNS providers and
- 42:05and um well application desks or
- 42:10application platforms where actually
- 42:13data is is is read. Um the overall idea
- 42:18is that we try to uh have as much
- 42:21partnership as possible to have native
- 42:23integration with the LNS major LNS and
- 42:27IoT platforms and obviously have
- 42:31an extended compatibility such as
- 42:33backnet for instance. I believe that my
- 42:35my previous colleagues mentioned that on
- 42:38on a on a larger scale as well. Um next
- 42:43slide please.
- 42:50Uh just to give you a very brief
- 42:52overview of some of our products uh
- 42:56linked to the air quality uh
- 43:00we we talked about uh a lot in the
- 43:04previous sessions or in the previous
- 43:05examples of indoor air quality. So uh
- 43:09yes what is is part of that uh or as
- 43:14well typically I can we can show typical
- 43:18product measuring various parameters
- 43:20within the indoor air quality management
- 43:23and I believe that Vita mentioned a key
- 43:26element of the Laurawan devices which is
- 43:29obviously the uh the length uh that is
- 43:34possible with with Lauraan sensors.
- 43:36Obviously they are low power and and
- 43:39very long range. Um maybe one point
- 43:43where I would like to insist a little
- 43:45bit more is to go a little bit further
- 43:47than just the indoor management of the
- 43:51smart building. Uh but actually looking
- 43:54at the broader view of the uh smart
- 43:58building. Uh we we already mentioned
- 44:02ventilation. So to some extent it's it
- 44:06in a lot of cases it happens down below
- 44:09outside
- 44:12in in difficult places where it's
- 44:15accessible. So we have another devices
- 44:17device device typically in order to
- 44:20measure um the differentiatorial
- 44:23pressure of an HVAC system in order to
- 44:27accurately monitor it from a from a
- 44:29distance. Um if we can move to the next
- 44:32slide and I would like to introduce you
- 44:35to uh something that we may not see as a
- 44:39user within the indoor quality
- 44:42management uh air quality management.
- 44:45It's the uh products more related to the
- 44:50energy efficiency where we actually
- 44:53focus on meters. Uh and at Watu we we we
- 44:57carry a full range of different uh um
- 45:00devices enabled to uh read all type of
- 45:04meters ranging from water, electricity
- 45:08and gas. Uh typically uh these meters
- 45:12are are
- 45:15well our devices are more rugged into an
- 45:17industrial environment because these are
- 45:20uh uh down in the cave or where where
- 45:25all the the metering happen in the in
- 45:28the basement of a building for instance
- 45:30and clearly the Lawan environment
- 45:33enables uh to get access uh to to to to
- 45:38to these difficult parts
- 45:41enabling remote monitoring. Uh so in
- 45:44terms of energy efficiency typically a
- 45:47couple of devices um either by flash
- 45:52monitoring typically for electricity
- 45:54meters or pulse monitoring uh which
- 45:58would relate to water, gas or or even
- 46:03electricity to to some extent with again
- 46:06a large uh uh life battery lifetime. Um
- 46:11maybe you can move to the next slide
- 46:13please Jansy.
- 46:21So, uh, focusing on on one of the use
- 46:25cases that that WCO has been able to to
- 46:28put forward with with its uh with its
- 46:31ecosystem partners is looking at a huge
- 46:35camping and remote mobile homes. uh
- 46:39where we actually deployed uh efficiency
- 46:43monitoring devices such as the the
- 46:45flasho in this case uh which uh is a
- 46:49meter electricity meter reading device.
- 46:52Uh so overall more than 300 devices were
- 46:56were spread across the uh the site in
- 47:01order to um
- 47:03do submittering monitoring and
- 47:06consumption tracking. Um so uh the idea
- 47:11was to have the devices extremely easily
- 47:16um deployed. Uh it's almost plug and
- 47:20play. Um
- 47:22we bring up uh the um the the insurance
- 47:27or the ease of having an autonomy
- 47:30battery life span of of about 12 years
- 47:34which is huge for a site like that. So
- 47:36you don't have to worry about changing
- 47:38anything. Um
- 47:41and maybe moving to the next slide so we
- 47:44can go a little bit more into details of
- 47:45the into how this really benefited uh
- 47:49for for this campsite. Um so as I
- 47:52mentioned we deployed about 300 plus
- 47:56electricity meters. Uh as you can easily
- 47:59understand uh we eliminate uh the manual
- 48:03reading because now it's all remotely
- 48:06monitored. Um
- 48:09we can create alerts or have immediate
- 48:13detection of over consumption or
- 48:15abnormals consumption. Typically um it's
- 48:18a very simple retrofit.
- 48:21uh so that makes it uh seamless for for
- 48:25the integrators to uh to to to use that
- 48:28and obviously uh turns turns out to be a
- 48:32very scalable infrastructure for uh for
- 48:35future energy services.
- 48:38So
- 48:40overall um that's uh that's about it on
- 48:44what equals part. Uh I would like to to
- 48:47to thank you for for your attention. Uh
- 48:50and uh um I will hand it over back to uh
- 48:54Yan from Zaner who will take over in in
- 48:59terms of questions and answers and uh
- 49:02and follow up with that. Thank you.
- 49:05>> Thank you Michael for your for your
- 49:06presentation. Um and also thank you to
- 49:09all of the other speakers to your for
- 49:11your talks. Always impressive to see how
- 49:13wide the range of solutions for Lurovan
- 49:16is. Um taking a first look to the
- 49:20questions. There was one uh questions
- 49:22coming up about just right at your uh
- 49:26call Michael about the that luran
- 49:29provides a lot of advantages for energy
- 49:32for quality aspects but the energy
- 49:35consumptions is a significant challenge
- 49:38to monitor. So this is true but I think
- 49:40also you gave a quite good example how
- 49:42wo in this manner managed to focus on
- 49:46the energy consumption as well as in the
- 49:48talks from Marco and uh I guess also
- 49:52Vleta and EDA more or less all had some
- 49:55content about the management of energy
- 49:58consumptions with Laura. Is there
- 50:00anything from the audience uh to give
- 50:03more insights about what is there
- 50:06specific issue about energy moni energy
- 50:08consumption with Lauravan?
- 50:17I guess it was quite a comprehensive few
- 50:20that we got here. In case if anything
- 50:21comes to your mind, just let us know.
- 50:25I'm heading over to the next questions.
- 50:27Um so I think this is regarding via
- 50:31letters uh presentation
- 50:34um that the um the the the savings were
- 50:40quite high and um
- 50:45how it was calculated was it the 30% of
- 50:49energy savings which is calculated in a
- 50:51one two or three year return of
- 50:53investment
- 50:54>> so yeah I think I mentioned the return
- 50:56on investment period In most of the
- 50:58cases uh the around 30% is uh repayment
- 51:02within the first year of operation. So
- 51:04one heating season 12 months uh usually
- 51:07six months of heating or a maximum two
- 51:10years depending on the energy prices.
- 51:12Again most of our installations when
- 51:15it's hardware um and the and the gateway
- 51:17and the infrastructure repay themselves
- 51:19within the first or the second year of
- 51:21operation. The actual savings the way
- 51:23they are calculated is weather
- 51:24adjustment savings. So essentially it
- 51:27will take down the effect of weather uh
- 51:29getting warmer let's say in in the
- 51:31winter. Uh but yeah the usual range is
- 51:3315 to 35% and return on investment
- 51:36within one or two years depending on the
- 51:38energy price.
- 51:40>> And I guess thank you I guess it comes
- 51:43from uh it also addressed to you from
- 51:45the same person. What in your opinion is
- 51:48the largest challenges to overcome
- 51:49installation? Is it battery usage
- 51:52powered uh or um what is the what are
- 51:55the challenges in installing the devices
- 51:58and maintaining them?
- 51:59>> Um I think there is not that much of a
- 52:02challenge in installing the devices. Uh
- 52:04pretty much most of them are taking one
- 52:06to five minutes to install. I think uh
- 52:09the integration piece when we talk about
- 52:11IoT and BMS could be more challenging
- 52:13but that's why we used the recommended
- 52:16gateway manufacturers that have made
- 52:18that onboarding process quite quick. So
- 52:20essentially instead of people having to
- 52:22write their own drivers or do the
- 52:24integration themselves there is now
- 52:26gateways from uh semens multitech that
- 52:29has this BMS integration done natively.
- 52:32IQ Nexus is another example. Vatsense.
- 52:34So really I think the Laura one market
- 52:36has evolved into removing that
- 52:39operational challenge. It's not the
- 52:40installation uh in this in this case.
- 52:43It's kind of the integration piece
- 52:44between the Laura one technology and the
- 52:46existing BMS. And this has been kind of
- 52:48solved by our partners.
- 52:51>> And I can also say from my perspective
- 52:53the advantage of Laura to be that energy
- 52:55efficient uh that you have devices in in
- 52:58the feed for for a couple of years. It's
- 53:00just a a huge benefit just compared when
- 53:03it comes to thermal set controls where
- 53:06you in the old days has to go there a
- 53:08couple of times in a week. So this is a
- 53:11huge benefit in terms of labor cost
- 53:14efforts that we're raising here.
- 53:17Um next question there is also the
- 53:20question uh about uh there seem to be a
- 53:23lot of developments of Laura
- 53:24technologies in internal building
- 53:26management systems. What are few? I
- 53:29think it's addressed to the whole group.
- 53:31What have you seen in terms of
- 53:32development a need for outdoor climate
- 53:35sensing controls and building
- 53:36applications? I guess it's uh it intends
- 53:39to somehow refer to outdoor climate and
- 53:43indoor climate itself. Does anyone from
- 53:45Europe want to answer the question
- 53:53again? I'm noting it. What have you seen
- 53:56in terms of development? Yeah, maybe I
- 54:00can try to I mean looking at outdoor
- 54:02environment I mean I believe that
- 54:07we we we uh we also have quite a lot of
- 54:10outdoor products. So we do understand
- 54:13the uh the the necessity for uh making
- 54:18the products uh outdoor ready uh which
- 54:22is already a big challenge. I think we
- 54:24uh nobody's not aware everybody's well
- 54:27aware of of the IP the different IP
- 54:31ratings whether you have any kind of
- 54:33humidity or you need full waterproof
- 54:36devices in in outdoor management
- 54:38especially when you're close to water
- 54:40meters or purely outdoors and that that
- 54:43requires a lot of attention. Uh so
- 54:46that's uh I hope this tends to answer
- 54:50the the initial question. Um
- 54:54>> yeah, thank you.
- 54:57Um I guess it's it gives a a good um
- 55:00answer for that one. We have a couple of
- 55:03more questions coming up. So I'm heading
- 55:05to the next one. So there is a question
- 55:06about what is your opinion about
- 55:08batteryless solutions in smart building.
- 55:10So uh of course those devices existing
- 55:13also with Luron. We uh use case wise
- 55:17have now a lot of um partners here
- 55:19within the webinar. I guess none of you
- 55:21offers better batteryless
- 55:24devices, right?
- 55:26>> Do we have some? Yeah, maybe Eda has as
- 55:28well. Sorry.
- 55:29>> Okay, so go on.
- 55:31>> We use uh solar solar technology and
- 55:33solar panels. So, essentially they're
- 55:35light harvesting indoor and outdoor.
- 55:37These are quite good for CO2 monitoring
- 55:40and humidity and temperature monitoring.
- 55:42When it comes to actuators, they consume
- 55:44a lot more energy like the TRV. And
- 55:46there are some energy harvesting um
- 55:49solutions on the market. But right now,
- 55:51um we believe that energy harvesting for
- 55:54actuators is much more complicated. You
- 55:56still need to have um battery embedded
- 55:59and again that has a life. So even
- 56:01though they're marketed as batteryless
- 56:04devices, they actually have a
- 56:06capacitator inside uh which is a is is a
- 56:10sort of a battery. So we think that it
- 56:12works for humidity and temperature for
- 56:14CO2 uh light solar panels do work. Uh
- 56:18energy harvesting for actuators a little
- 56:20bit different story
- 56:27>> you're nodding your head.
- 56:30same.
- 56:30>> Yeah. Yeah. We have a better batteryless
- 56:34sensors ourselves um solar panel and uh
- 56:39I really really do think it's the
- 56:40future. Um it not only measures the same
- 56:44thing as all other sensors for example
- 56:46in our portfolio but it also one key
- 56:49point is that it reduce the maintenance
- 56:52of u going and
- 56:55taking out the batteries and changing
- 56:57them every year. It's a lifetime sensor,
- 57:00so it really is the future, I think, and
- 57:03it has a some great great uh valuable
- 57:07benefits with it. So, yeah, absolutely.
- 57:09I believe it's the future.
- 57:12>> Thank you, Eda. Uh the next question, uh
- 57:15very happy to see the name Remy, a
- 57:17well-known person in the alliance, uh
- 57:20asking the the very good question about
- 57:22what about matter? Uh so does anyone
- 57:24here within the the speakers round have
- 57:27any specific experience with matter as a
- 57:31standard connecting those various
- 57:34worlds?
- 57:43>> Sorry. Uh where are you talking about
- 57:45meters?
- 57:46>> Matter matter the the matter standard.
- 57:49So
- 57:51>> not meters. Sorry matters. No, I got it
- 57:53wrong. Sorry.
- 57:57>> No, it it came up a couple of years, but
- 57:59it seems to be much more um especially
- 58:03in the smart building market being more
- 58:05prominent there. So from your mline and
- 58:09fate and also
- 58:14have you any kind of projects who refer
- 58:16which are explicitly using matter or do
- 58:19you have any kind of matter experience
- 58:21in that sense?
- 58:23>> Uh we don't we have done research and
- 58:25development on the technology itself or
- 58:28the connectivity part of it. uh but we
- 58:31we thought it's more B2C market or I I
- 58:34need to check but if that person who
- 58:35asked the question we have some research
- 58:37available to compare it maybe with Laura
- 58:391 but the reason why we stayed with
- 58:41Laura 1 at the end is the battery
- 58:43lifetime the price of the components and
- 58:45uh really the connectivity benefits uh
- 58:48but yeah I can maybe provide some um
- 58:50research from from our team on on the
- 58:52matter
- 58:54>> thank you what also I can say from
- 58:56designer perspective is that also we saw
- 58:59matter at least at the stage now in the
- 59:02B2C uh perspective there. Um but the
- 59:06more it's getting popular to the B2B
- 59:08market of course I think all of the
- 59:11device manufacturers are going to take a
- 59:13deeper look to it. But at the moment uh
- 59:17it isn't as far as it can go but maybe
- 59:19we would have such kind of a kind of
- 59:21webinar next year at the same time the
- 59:23situation might have changed.
- 59:26Um let's just look and then the last
- 59:29question is um
- 59:32quite a general question. Uh are we
- 59:35research wise how active are the uh
- 59:37companies here with you universities in
- 59:40that in that sense? Is there any kind of
- 59:43specific research project uh somebody
- 59:45wants to refer?
- 59:55I mean I would say but I also can say
- 59:57from my perspective that I mean more or
- 1:00:00less all of us are actively in internal
- 1:00:03research but especially when it comes to
- 1:00:05to the building aspect this is and in
- 1:00:08the B2B market this is quite a a
- 1:00:11specific thing another foundational
- 1:00:13research so the the scope of traditional
- 1:00:16research projects with European
- 1:00:18universities might be limited but it
- 1:00:20doesn't mean necessarily that we don't
- 1:00:22do any kind of research going over it
- 1:00:24but uh uh the scope is maybe not on the
- 1:00:27traditional theoretical research in that
- 1:00:30way with classical university research
- 1:00:32projects.
- 1:00:36Okay. Well, uh I see in my question
- 1:00:41screen no open questions so far and we
- 1:00:44almost precisely hit the 60 61 minutes.
- 1:00:48So this is uh a very good point from my
- 1:00:51side now to um to cut it down. So first
- 1:00:54of all, I want to thank the audience for
- 1:00:57spending the time with us with the Laura
- 1:00:58Alliance webinar to share your ideas
- 1:01:01within the Q&A session. So, it's a
- 1:01:03pleasure um to have you here all within
- 1:01:07the webinar and of course a very big
- 1:01:09thank you to the works of our speakers
- 1:01:11here to all of you to share as well your
- 1:01:14time and um it is always a pleasure also
- 1:01:18for me to host such good speakers and
- 1:01:21also such a fruitful uh um discussion
- 1:01:24later on. So, thanks a lot. We uh hope
- 1:01:27to see you again either in the alliance
- 1:01:29at some shows or whe in the connected
- 1:01:32IoT virtual. Thanks a lot again from my
- 1:01:34side and I wish you a pleasant afternoon
- 1:01:37or good day wherever you stay at the
- 1:01:39world. So thanks a lot and goodbye.
- 1:01:43>> Thank you. Bye
- 1:01:45>> bye.
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