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From Prison to Peterbilt: How Dennis Got His Life Back at 49 — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Welcome to Trucker You podcast. My name
  2. 0:01is Sebastian. Today on the podcast we
  3. 0:03have Dennis Foster. He is an
  4. 0:06owner-operator from the East Coast and
  5. 0:09Dennis shares a very personal story on
  6. 0:12how he got into the trucking business
  7. 0:16and what he had to overcome to be
  8. 0:19[music] where he's at right now. So
  9. 0:20let's dive right into it.
  10. 0:26All right. Welcome to Trucker You. Thank
  11. 0:28you Dennis for being here. I appreciate
  12. 0:31you taking the time and sharing your
  13. 0:32story. So tell me let's kick it right
  14. 0:35kick right into it. Tell me what do you
  15. 0:37do? What do you drive first? Tell me
  16. 0:38what what type of truck do you have
  17. 0:41and what engine? All right.
  18. 0:43I am a proud owner of a
  19. 0:482019 Peterbilt
  20. 0:51579.
  21. 0:53It's a mid-roof. It was a former TMC
  22. 0:56truck which I
  23. 0:58I'm sure we'll get into a little bit
  24. 0:59later. I I bought it from TMC truck
  25. 1:01sales down in
  26. 1:03There's a couple locations but I bought
  27. 1:04my particular truck down out of South
  28. 1:06Carolina I guess you'd say.
  29. 1:09So tell me before you bought the truck
  30. 1:13what you what type of what are you doing
  31. 1:15flatbed? What type of freight were you
  32. 1:17hauling and for [snorts] how long were
  33. 1:18you doing that before you actually
  34. 1:20pulled the trigger on your own truck?
  35. 1:22And I know you you've been involved in
  36. 1:23the industry for a long time. What I'm
  37. 1:24looking for
  38. 1:26cuz I know you've been doing some union
  39. 1:27work and then you had which we'll get to
  40. 1:32an accident happened right that I would
  41. 1:34want you to maybe mention. So like tell
  42. 1:37me a little bit about that so we can
  43. 1:39paint the story and how you transition
  44. 1:41into an owner-op. Okay. Yeah, so I went
  45. 1:44back to doing some bridge work. Ended up
  46. 1:46getting married. It was very very short
  47. 1:48short short-term marriage.
  48. 1:51It was 2000 2012. Went to I was laid off
  49. 1:54for the wintertime doing construction.
  50. 1:56Moved down to Florida briefly. High
  51. 1:59school sweetheart and and
  52. 2:01kind of rekindled things, moved her back
  53. 2:03to New York State. Her mom got sick and
  54. 2:05uh had some health health issues going
  55. 2:07on. So, we we moved back up to New York
  56. 2:08and um
  57. 2:09>> [clears throat]
  58. 2:09>> just packed up packed up the truck and
  59. 2:11and her vehicle and and moved up and and
  60. 2:14bought a house. Uh went back to a
  61. 2:18company called Lane Construction. We
  62. 2:19were doing a large bridge over it. It
  63. 2:21was a it was a pretty big job. Uh it was
  64. 2:23off the the um
  65. 2:26Northway, uh New York State Northway.
  66. 2:28Yeah, I I suffered a injury. Uh it was
  67. 2:31just a cut in my elbow
  68. 2:32in 2012 uh while working on that job,
  69. 2:36which pretty much changed my life. It uh
  70. 2:39it caused me to have I ended up getting
  71. 2:40MRSA and and landed landed in my hip
  72. 2:43joint from the cut in my elbow. You
  73. 2:44know, just making good money, union
  74. 2:46money and and uh just
  75. 2:48the way we do it in construction, just
  76. 2:50duct taped it up, went back to work, and
  77. 2:51forgot about them.
  78. 2:53You know, taking taking a lot of
  79. 2:54painkillers to get through the pain and
  80. 2:56that kind of opened up a door um that
  81. 2:59I don't
  82. 3:00like to to talk about some addiction
  83. 3:02issues and stuff that that pretty much
  84. 3:05uh has has hindered my my past and
  85. 3:07caused me to have some some legal
  86. 3:08problems um in in my past and uh
  87. 3:12one of the things that I definitely want
  88. 3:13to support is is is uh other guys, guys
  89. 3:17and and females that have a have a past.
  90. 3:19Um
  91. 3:21there are some roadblocks that that I I
  92. 3:23went through with with felonies, you
  93. 3:24know, uh criminal background um getting
  94. 3:27into the the trucking industry, you
  95. 3:29know, the the companies that you can get
  96. 3:30on get on to. Some of the the larger
  97. 3:32companies that require, you know, 5
  98. 3:34years, 7 years from from a felony.
  99. 3:37And uh
  100. 3:38So, that kind of
  101. 3:39>> Dennis. Dennis, if I if you don't mind
  102. 3:41me slowing down a little bit cuz you're
  103. 3:42running through it and that's that is so
  104. 3:44so some stuff you just shared that I I
  105. 3:47if you don't mind sharing more because
  106. 3:50you know, you went through obviously
  107. 3:51some
  108. 3:52um crazy times in your life, but tell me
  109. 3:54about tell me about that a little bit
  110. 3:57how that that actually
  111. 3:59unraveled for you with cuz I'm assuming
  112. 4:01it was some kind of OxyContin or
  113. 4:03whatever they were giving you, right?
  114. 4:05>> Yeah. Yeah, um it was it was all um so
  115. 4:09>> No, no, I'm fine with it. Yeah,
  116. 4:11absolutely.
  117. 4:12Um so, you know, I left the hospital
  118. 4:14with uh Oxy 20s or or whatever initially
  119. 4:18and you know, kind of I got I got used
  120. 4:21used to that
  121. 4:22uh taking the pain away. So, I got
  122. 4:24depressed. Um was taking the pain pills
  123. 4:27initially for the pain and and probably
  124. 4:28pretty much gravitated into using them
  125. 4:31for other reasons, you know, the the
  126. 4:33depression and um
  127. 4:35So, the you know, like the Oxy Oxy 20s
  128. 4:37led into Oxy 30s and then wanting and
  129. 4:39needing more.
  130. 4:40Um you know, which pretty much pretty
  131. 4:42much led into addiction. Um I uh got
  132. 4:45into a cocaine addiction which um molded
  133. 4:48my quite a few next next years, you
  134. 4:51know, brought a lot of uh criminal
  135. 4:53stuff, you know, um criminal
  136. 4:55possessions, criminal sales of uh
  137. 4:57narcotics which I went to prison for.
  138. 5:00Um went to prison for 2 years and then
  139. 5:03uh
  140. 5:04suffered that, you know, I I had two two
  141. 5:06felonies uh one for criminal possession
  142. 5:09um
  143. 5:10and then I had a
  144. 5:11a sales of of uh narcotics as well.
  145. 5:15So, I went to prison for that stuff.
  146. 5:17>> Dennis? Were you in like your mid-30s?
  147. 5:19Uh so, I was I believe 35.
  148. 5:23It was 2012. So, I've actually had three
  149. 5:26hip replacements on on my right hip.
  150. 5:29Um
  151. 5:30The the infection kept coming back. So,
  152. 5:32it wasn't just they did the surgery and
  153. 5:34and uh it went away. It kept coming
  154. 5:37back. I'd get better. I'd bounce back
  155. 5:39from the surgery. It was was, you know,
  156. 5:41like was bedridden initially because of
  157. 5:43the antibiotics and and the infection.
  158. 5:46Once we got rid of the infection in my
  159. 5:48system, uh it kept coming back in my
  160. 5:50hip. So, that was And that was the last
  161. 5:52one.
  162. 5:52>> And you were running all of your all of
  163. 5:53your addiction as well? Was that like
  164. 5:55overlap overlapping? Yeah, there was
  165. 5:58bouts of you know, like that was kind of
  166. 6:00like in in there. So, like 2015
  167. 6:03was really
  168. 6:04And now I'm taking pain pills more than
  169. 6:07than is
  170. 6:09required or more than is prescribed and
  171. 6:12and then you know, that's when I got
  172. 6:14into using other drugs, the the cocaine
  173. 6:16as well. Um and it it it consumes me um
  174. 6:20for for many years and changed my life,
  175. 6:22you know, the people I was hanging out
  176. 6:23with and then um it took it took things
  177. 6:26away from me, you know, goals and and
  178. 6:29I've always been a hard worker. Uh my
  179. 6:32one thing one of the things I've always
  180. 6:33prided myself in was hard hard work. So,
  181. 6:36so tell me the transition now to to how
  182. 6:39you went back to driving and
  183. 6:41and cuz I I want I don't want to move
  184. 6:43away from what you went through because
  185. 6:45it's it's a it's a crazy
  186. 6:47crazy story and I know, you know, people
  187. 6:50>> [snorts]
  188. 6:50>> struggle with their own issues and I
  189. 6:52think you're you're open about it and
  190. 6:55you I know you just started a YouTube
  191. 6:56channel to share your journey as an
  192. 6:59owner operator and help others. But tell
  193. 7:01me
  194. 7:02when when you when you had that that
  195. 7:04that
  196. 7:05I don't want to call it a rock bottom,
  197. 7:06but when you started realizing, "Hey, I
  198. 7:08got to do something different." Like
  199. 7:09tell me about that. Like when you
  200. 7:10started like I I want to get myself out
  201. 7:12of the situation. Yeah, well, you know,
  202. 7:14like I
  203. 7:15um I went to meetings, you know, like um
  204. 7:19self-help groups uh
  205. 7:21I was from a small town, um Coxsackie,
  206. 7:24New York, uh town of town of Climax is
  207. 7:27where I grew I was born and raised. It
  208. 7:29was a small town. Um not a whole lot to
  209. 7:32do around there. There was no There was
  210. 7:33not a whole lot of meetings either. So,
  211. 7:35I used uh Alcoholics Anonymous meetings.
  212. 7:37Um my problem wasn't really with
  213. 7:39alcohol. It was with substances. So, I
  214. 7:42used those meetings as as long as I
  215. 7:43could and they did help.
  216. 7:45That opened the door for me to get into
  217. 7:47uh Narcotics Anonymous meetings and then
  218. 7:49eventually meet um
  219. 7:51what was a long-terms long-term sponsor.
  220. 7:54Went through some some rehab um
  221. 7:56rehabs. I would get it for a little
  222. 7:58while. I would I would kind of be scared
  223. 8:01straight, you know, with the legal
  224. 8:02issues and stuff going on back and forth
  225. 8:04with that. Um it would it would keep me
  226. 8:07clean for for a little bit, but I would
  227. 8:08always bounce back, you know, like
  228. 8:10jumping right back into those friends
  229. 8:11that I was was uh doing doing wrong with
  230. 8:14or using with. Um getting into
  231. 8:16relationships that I I really shouldn't
  232. 8:18have been been involved in and just
  233. 8:20instead of concentrating taking care of
  234. 8:21myself, you know, myself and my family.
  235. 8:24>> [snorts]
  236. 8:24>> Um so,
  237. 8:26uh
  238. 8:27once I found Narcotics Anonymous uh and
  239. 8:29really started working a program and and
  240. 8:32stuck with the the winners as like one
  241. 8:33of the slogans they say, you know, stick
  242. 8:35with the winners and and started
  243. 8:36utilizing the meetings and and uh it
  244. 8:39changed my life, you know, it opened
  245. 8:40opened doors for me and those those
  246. 8:43people that I met back then um 2000
  247. 8:4815, 16, 17, you know, is when I really
  248. 8:51started um going to meetings. Somebody
  249. 8:53talk, you know, so like podcast has been
  250. 8:56a huge huge part of me becoming an
  251. 8:59owner-operator, you know, like uh
  252. 9:01there's other podcasts
  253. 9:03uh the Kevin Rutherford show and uh
  254. 9:05Great show. Great show. Kevin
  255. 9:07>> Let's talk, you know, um
  256. 9:09Pittsburgh Power has been been wonderful
  257. 9:12with all those guys, Bruce and and Eric
  258. 9:13and and uh all those guys kind of helped
  259. 9:16me along the way and and all the advice
  260. 9:18um
  261. 9:19of the Trucking Tribe, you know, kind of
  262. 9:21similar to to what you got going on. Um
  263. 9:24Uh those guys and and a lot of the
  264. 9:26advice and a lot of the shows that are
  265. 9:28that are on and the content, you know,
  266. 9:30which all the trucking content. There's
  267. 9:32there's so much content out there if if
  268. 9:35if if anybody's a driver today, and and
  269. 9:37and
  270. 9:38not listening to uh to the trucking
  271. 9:41content that that's available today on
  272. 9:43uh
  273. 9:44so many different um platforms, you
  274. 9:46know. Yeah, 100% and and that what I was
  275. 9:48going to maybe scratch a little bit more
  276. 9:50is what would you say to somebody right
  277. 9:52now cuz you've been you've you've been
  278. 9:54through the, you know, if somebody
  279. 9:56struggles with substance substances and
  280. 9:59and maybe is listening to this. Like,
  281. 10:00what would you What would you tell that
  282. 10:02person if somebody's at that where you
  283. 10:04were in 2015-16? Like, what would you
  284. 10:06tell them? Uh I think one of the most
  285. 10:09important things I look back now is is
  286. 10:11definitely people, places, and things,
  287. 10:13you know, to um surround yourself with
  288. 10:16those positive people. Um I gave up hope
  289. 10:18for for quite a few years, you know, um
  290. 10:22I still had it deep inside me, but like
  291. 10:23like the drugs consumed me. So, like I
  292. 10:25gave up a lot of my goals and my
  293. 10:27aspirations that I had in life, things
  294. 10:29that I wanted to do with my life, you
  295. 10:30know, I just uh I let the drugs consume
  296. 10:32me. Um so,
  297. 10:35you know, I I've taken my life back now.
  298. 10:38I kind of got a I guess a new lease on
  299. 10:41life now, you know, I'm 50 years old,
  300. 10:43starting over as an owner-operator. I
  301. 10:45had a a pension from a union pension
  302. 10:47that I had I withdrew and and uh kind of
  303. 10:52uh had to use that for some legal legal
  304. 10:54stuff going on. Um at 50 years old, 49
  305. 10:57years old, I started over.
  306. 11:00What would I say to them?
  307. 11:01>> People, places, and things, you know,
  308. 11:03people, places, and things. Stay away
  309. 11:05from those people that you're you know,
  310. 11:07set your mind um find find some solid
  311. 11:10people in recovery. If you're a male,
  312. 11:12stay with the males. If you're If you're
  313. 11:14a female, stay with the females. That
  314. 11:16was a big thing for me is running around
  315. 11:18um getting into relationships, you know,
  316. 11:20I guess they call them rehab romances,
  317. 11:22you know, falling in love. I just
  318. 11:25just looking for some the next thing
  319. 11:28that made me feel um feel good about
  320. 11:30myself because I
  321. 11:32I wasn't. I wasn't feeling good about
  322. 11:33myself at that point in my life, you
  323. 11:35know. Yeah. Well, you've been doing
  324. 11:37you've been doing
  325. 11:39great and I would want to It's how do
  326. 11:41you how do you now you know, pick up
  327. 11:44your life and start rebuilding you have
  328. 11:46new lease on life like you said. That's
  329. 11:49that's something that I would want you
  330. 11:50to share because I've known you for a
  331. 11:53little bit since you've been in our
  332. 11:54trucking group and the our trucking
  333. 11:56business group and I see what you do and
  334. 11:58how good of a person you are. And I It's
  335. 12:01like this, you know, I've been through
  336. 12:02some things like that as well similar
  337. 12:04not as as as much as as close to what
  338. 12:08you went through obviously, but
  339. 12:10it is difficult to see past that, right?
  340. 12:13To kind of look into the future and say,
  341. 12:15"Hey, I still have time to do something.
  342. 12:16I still have
  343. 12:18>> [snorts]
  344. 12:18>> the energy and the the I'll I'll do
  345. 12:20whatever it takes to get myself feel
  346. 12:22better again, right? Cuz you know, some
  347. 12:24dark times went through my life as well
  348. 12:26and and it was just like
  349. 12:28the never losing hope I guess, right?
  350. 12:30And my similar my similar what do you
  351. 12:33say about you know, people things and
  352. 12:35places
  353. 12:36I always lived with a rule that was
  354. 12:40you're the average [snorts] of five
  355. 12:41people you surround yourself with,
  356. 12:42right? You associate yourself with. So,
  357. 12:45whether it's podcasters
  358. 12:47Kevin Rutherford was a massive
  359. 12:49impact for me because I drove in
  360. 12:512007-8-9 when when there was not a lot
  361. 12:54of stuff on the internet and he was one
  362. 12:56of the the guys that was always non-stop
  363. 12:58cracking out content and I was like,
  364. 13:00"Man, this guy is awesome." I've learned
  365. 13:02a ton from him.
  366. 13:03And this it's whether you associate
  367. 13:05yourself with friends, with group of
  368. 13:07people around you, the average of five
  369. 13:09people was such a magical thing for me
  370. 13:11cuz once I started living that, the life
  371. 13:14started changing immediately almost,
  372. 13:16right? And and I have a feeling you have
  373. 13:18a similar thing as as soon as you start
  374. 13:21changing the environment you surround
  375. 13:22yourself like you said with good people,
  376. 13:24with good values, trying to do something
  377. 13:26in life, all of a sudden your life
  378. 13:27changes and you're like, "Oh, wow. Like,
  379. 13:28I didn't know it's going to happen that
  380. 13:29quick, right?" I prayed. Did a lot of
  381. 13:31praying. I had a lot of dark moments in
  382. 13:33my life, you know, in in that in that
  383. 13:35period. I prayed on it to to my higher
  384. 13:38power.
  385. 13:39It didn't happen all at once. I went to
  386. 13:41actually went went like I said I went to
  387. 13:43prison. Struggled struggled. So, my my
  388. 13:46clean date is May 23rd
  389. 13:49or May 26th, 2023. I'm coming up on 3
  390. 13:52years clean on the 26th of May.
  391. 13:54Congrats, my man. That's awesome.
  392. 13:56I don't know if you want me to jump in
  393. 13:57now or the transition of
  394. 13:59>> about the truck. Let's talk
  395. 14:01>> [laughter]
  396. 14:01>> talk about some equipment. [gasps]
  397. 14:03I'm excited.
  398. 14:05Yeah, so
  399. 14:07um You saved up and then you started
  400. 14:09looking for a truck, right?
  401. 14:10>> up, yeah. So, I you know, I had friends
  402. 14:12that were owner-operators and you know,
  403. 14:14they're like, "You're leaving money on
  404. 14:15the table." And you know, it's not all
  405. 14:18all the pot of gold at the at the end of
  406. 14:20the rainbow, right? Like, there's some
  407. 14:22you know, you got downtime, you got
  408. 14:24breakdowns and everything's responsible.
  409. 14:27Now
  410. 14:28the weekends aren't your weekends cuz
  411. 14:29you're you're out working on the truck
  412. 14:31and um I'm like, "Yeah, I don't want
  413. 14:34that. Like, I don't have a whole lot in
  414. 14:35my life and I'm kind of trying to find
  415. 14:37something to really grasp to again,
  416. 14:38right?" Like um so, it excited me to
  417. 14:41like I feel like I had a fresh breath of
  418. 14:44of air again and and something to look
  419. 14:46forward to um grasping onto this this
  420. 14:48whole trucking owner-operator
  421. 14:50uh deal and and set my set my sights
  422. 14:53um
  423. 14:55set my sights on it and and just work
  424. 14:57toward it and uh How many trucks? So, so
  425. 15:00let me let me cuz I'm I'm [snorts]
  426. 15:01curious. How many trucks did you look at
  427. 15:03before you settle on the one you have
  428. 15:05right now? Did you look at multiple
  429. 15:07trucks and and what made you I looked
  430. 15:09around for quite a while.
  431. 15:11>> Um I bounced around. So, the company
  432. 15:15that I was currently working for is a is
  433. 15:16a company driver regional again regional
  434. 15:19regional uh
  435. 15:21um carrier. The check started I had to
  436. 15:23really pay attention to my uh
  437. 15:25my settlements, you know, there was some
  438. 15:27miles missing here, they weren't paying
  439. 15:29this.
  440. 15:30Uh they
  441. 15:32they uh I felt like they weren't being
  442. 15:33too honest with me. Um
  443. 15:35and that kind of really pushed me to
  444. 15:37maybe jump jump and pull the trigger a
  445. 15:39little bit sooner than than I would have
  446. 15:42if I had a carrier that was was
  447. 15:44legitimate, you know.
  448. 15:46Um so, I started looking at trucks
  449. 15:48uh probably last June, I would say,
  450. 15:51probably about a year ago. Started
  451. 15:53throwing the idea around, right? Like um
  452. 15:56God, I can get my own truck, you know,
  453. 15:57like
  454. 15:58looking at prices, looking at trucks, uh
  455. 16:01stopping here and there, um
  456. 16:03truckpaper.com
  457. 16:05getting on there, uh
  458. 16:08doing a lot of research. Again, um I
  459. 16:10stayed on when I was home or wasn't at
  460. 16:13work, I was I was online
  461. 16:15um looking at trucks and and doing
  462. 16:16research on motors and and and what
  463. 16:18truck was right for for what I wanted to
  464. 16:20do and I've since since changed um you
  465. 16:24know, uh uh
  466. 16:25just kind of put it out there, I'm I'm
  467. 16:27just getting into uh the open deck
  468. 16:29market. Um
  469. 16:31so, I haven't had a lot I've I've I've
  470. 16:33hauled a lot of flat flatbed loads um
  471. 16:36but I'm getting into uh 53-ft step deck,
  472. 16:38so I've moved equipment use lowboys and
  473. 16:41and stuff my whole life, but I I've
  474. 16:42never had a tarp a load. Um I know how
  475. 16:44to bind things down and stuff like that,
  476. 16:46but um as far as like uh doing it the
  477. 16:48legal way and and um so, I had a I had
  478. 16:52there's a learning curve there for me
  479. 16:53right now. Um getting into this uh
  480. 16:55flatbed market, you know. So, um I'm a
  481. 16:57little nervous about that.
  482. 16:59>> know I know I know a little bit about
  483. 17:00the operation, obviously, since you're
  484. 17:01in the group and I you've been doing
  485. 17:03pretty [snorts] good with driving. I
  486. 17:04know you've been
  487. 17:06uh doing and working for somebody for a
  488. 17:08while and now you're in the middle of
  489. 17:09the transition with
  490. 17:11uh which I think is going to be
  491. 17:13not only exciting, but you want those
  492. 17:16new things to learn. And I know in the
  493. 17:17group you you know we we all learn from
  494. 17:19each other and we all during our
  495. 17:21meetings there's always something that
  496. 17:22you're like oh wow that's I didn't know
  497. 17:23that I'll implement that. You have a ton
  498. 17:25of value add a ton of value also in the
  499. 17:27group and I see that you like you're
  500. 17:30excited about it which makes everybody
  501. 17:32excited that's involved because you know
  502. 17:34we're all learning new things how to you
  503. 17:36know maybe new approach getting outside
  504. 17:39of the comfort zone and getting into a
  505. 17:41new niche which you are doing which is
  506. 17:43great because that's the right now where
  507. 17:44the money is right? That's I mean one of
  508. 17:47the huge things that's been a help like
  509. 17:50you know with with your site and then
  510. 17:52your your help
  511. 17:54to to kind of push me to not be to get
  512. 17:56out of my comfort zone
  513. 17:58and then having so many different guys
  514. 18:00that are using that are at different
  515. 18:02points in their trucking career as as as
  516. 18:05owner operators first first time owner
  517. 18:07operators you know they got other guys
  518. 18:09in the in our
  519. 18:11trucking pro group that that have a
  520. 18:13couple trucks that that
  521. 18:15kind of know what they're doing you know
  522. 18:16and and have their own customers and
  523. 18:17stuff like that so it's amazing to to be
  524. 18:19able to call them up and pick their
  525. 18:21brain throughout the day or just reach
  526. 18:24out and it's it's been a camaraderie as
  527. 18:26well with those gentlemen and
  528. 18:29you know
  529. 18:30I just started like you said I
  530. 18:33We're excited I mean it's the overall
  531. 18:35like you said
  532. 18:37everybody's helping each other and the
  533. 18:39bar is being risen more and more because
  534. 18:42if somebody has two three trucks now
  535. 18:44they're adding another one now they're
  536. 18:45landing a lot of customer you decided to
  537. 18:47switch to do what you always wanted to
  538. 18:49do and go into step deck and open deck
  539. 18:52right and that's that's the whole goal
  540. 18:53of the of the community which community
  541. 18:55is the number one thing that got me out
  542. 18:57of a lot of trouble and a lot of down
  543. 18:59time you know
  544. 19:01dark times and that's that's why I built
  545. 19:03it because because of those reasons so
  546. 19:05I'm
  547. 19:06>> [snorts]
  548. 19:06>> I'm glad it's it's working for you. One
  549. 19:08of the things that I think really I need
  550. 19:09to say that that pushed me as well as as
  551. 19:12you know so being 49 years old and and
  552. 19:14starting over now I don't have a pension
  553. 19:17to to rely on and then you know
  554. 19:20uh
  555. 19:20someday I'd like to retire
  556. 19:22maybe.
  557. 19:24Um so starting over
  558. 19:26you know I thought and then listening to
  559. 19:27to this gentleman Chris from Hall and
  560. 19:29Assets um talked about how he he
  561. 19:33um started with his first truck right
  562. 19:34through till five six up to I think
  563. 19:37maybe 12 trucks you know like if he can
  564. 19:39do it I can do it right? Like um Of
  565. 19:41course. So I kind of had that thought in
  566. 19:43my my mind like you know I'd start out
  567. 19:45as an owner operator I'm I'm not rushing
  568. 19:47anything right now I'm not trying to to
  569. 19:49get into any more trucks because it's
  570. 19:50it's a
  571. 19:51it's tough it's tough enough to to just
  572. 19:53have one truck right now. Tell me let's
  573. 19:55let's talk about your truck real quick
  574. 19:56cuz you kind of skimmed over it a little
  575. 19:58bit too fast. What you you started
  576. 20:00talking you got a 2019 right now what
  577. 20:02tell me about what you bought and why
  578. 20:04did you buy it? It wasn't uh
  579. 20:06it wasn't a quick um
  580. 20:08I was actually down in in visiting my
  581. 20:10daughter in uh she lives outside of
  582. 20:12Virginia Beach um Virgin- Virginia uh
  583. 20:15>> [snorts]
  584. 20:16>> I was down there visiting her and um I
  585. 20:18was on a load and uh I blew a hose blew
  586. 20:21a coolant line or something like that
  587. 20:23and and the truck was down um waiting
  588. 20:25waiting for some some repair repairs to
  589. 20:28be done on this truck and
  590. 20:30starting to get fed up with that that
  591. 20:32company I was hauling for and and really
  592. 20:34kind of what really pushed me
  593. 20:36to become an owner operator and just
  594. 20:39kind of pull the pin I guess you'd say
  595. 20:41and and and decide I'm going to I'm
  596. 20:43going to buy a truck.
  597. 20:45Um
  598. 20:46so I I started looking like I said
  599. 20:48earlier you know all those sites and
  600. 20:50stuff and and had been looking for a
  601. 20:52while and kind of thrown the idea around
  602. 20:54um and I spoke to a gentleman from a he
  603. 20:56was out out toward you somewhere um some
  604. 20:58engine shop and and I spoke with this
  605. 21:00guy I forg- I forget the even the name
  606. 21:02of the the the place I called
  607. 21:04um it I a I was on YouTube watching a
  608. 21:06YouTube video and and uh it was a an an
  609. 21:09engine shop. I called the guy and and
  610. 21:11kind of just asked him his opinion. He
  611. 21:13says, "Look." He says, "Uh
  612. 21:15Um I'd go with
  613. 21:18TMC. They take care of their trucks and
  614. 21:19I've noticed them out there on the road.
  615. 21:21Their trucks are always clean. I've
  616. 21:22talked to guys out in the in the fuel
  617. 21:24islands. You know, they would drown the
  618. 21:26guys if they didn't wash their truck
  619. 21:27after after 2 weeks. They'd they'd drown
  620. 21:29them, wouldn't dispatch anymore. So,
  621. 21:31like they must care about their trucks,
  622. 21:32right? You know, like uh
  623. 21:34Um So, I I
  624. 21:36I felt like they had a very good
  625. 21:37maintenance program and and and this guy
  626. 21:38suggested he says, you know, don't don't
  627. 21:40get to go with the don't go with the
  628. 21:42PACCAR. Some guys might like PACCAR um
  629. 21:45motors, not me.
  630. 21:46Um so, I went out in the search for
  631. 21:49um
  632. 21:49I got immediately from hanging up the
  633. 21:51phone with this with this gentleman, um
  634. 21:53I got on the TMC truck sales site.
  635. 21:56And
  636. 21:57that for I think they have four
  637. 21:58different locations. South Carolina
  638. 22:00truck sales TMC truck sales was the
  639. 22:02closest for me.
  640. 22:04They had
  641. 22:05I want to say six trucks at the time.
  642. 22:07They kept They [snorts] had a couple day
  643. 22:09cabs as well. I was looking for a
  644. 22:11something with a sleeper.
  645. 22:13Uh
  646. 22:15wanted knew I wanted to eventually get
  647. 22:18into flatbed and heavy heavy haul, you
  648. 22:21know, like moving that equipment and
  649. 22:23stuff is kind of in my blood and and
  650. 22:24stuff. So, I knew like that's generally
  651. 22:26what I wanted to get into or or work
  652. 22:28toward.
  653. 22:30Um so, I I got on their website and and
  654. 22:33just started looking. Um
  655. 22:35I think that that Monday I made a phone
  656. 22:37call and and they had four trucks
  657. 22:38available. Um they're right around
  658. 22:40500,000 512 to 540,000 mi on them. It's
  659. 22:45when they, you know, the warranties are
  660. 22:46probably up and and
  661. 22:48kind of at their second point in life,
  662. 22:50right? They're still
  663. 22:51Um finding the right truck with those
  664. 22:53many miles it's it's uh
  665. 22:56You want to have the right motor and and
  666. 22:58do it do your research is is my advice
  667. 23:01to to guys. You know, do your research
  668. 23:03on the motors. Don't go out there and
  669. 23:04just buy any truck. Um find out where
  670. 23:07where the problems where the issues are,
  671. 23:09at what miles those issues are. You
  672. 23:11know, these these fleets are all selling
  673. 23:13their trucks for for reason because the
  674. 23:15warranties are up, right? And they don't
  675. 23:17have to maintain them. So, I went with a
  676. 23:19TMC truck because I know that their
  677. 23:20maintenance program was um pretty
  678. 23:22exceptional.
  679. 23:23Um from talking to other drivers from
  680. 23:25TMC and my my daughter's my daughter's
  681. 23:28boyfriend her his father works as as a
  682. 23:30TMC company driver. So, you know, like
  683. 23:33kind of um
  684. 23:34know a little bit about that that
  685. 23:35company and how they take care of their
  686. 23:37trucks and their maintenance program.
  687. 23:38So, that kind of set my mind and I found
  688. 23:41found a truck. I think it was right
  689. 23:43around October um on on that site and uh
  690. 23:46made some phone calls and and uh started
  691. 23:49um started the process to to finance
  692. 23:50that truck. Um
  693. 23:53I didn't have enough money to pay for
  694. 23:55that truck outright.
  695. 23:57I probably could have been close to it,
  696. 23:59but it would have left me broke and and
  697. 24:01had no startup money, you know. Mhm. I
  698. 24:04wasn't going to buy that truck and not
  699. 24:05get out there on the road and be on my
  700. 24:06own cuz I was
  701. 24:08I was fed up with the company that I was
  702. 24:09working the company um I was currently
  703. 24:11working with. But, you know, it was
  704. 24:15every week I was putting another another
  705. 24:17chunk of change away toward toward doing
  706. 24:19what I wanted to do.
  707. 24:21So, um
  708. 24:22>> So, when you So, when you went there,
  709. 24:23did you look at multiple units or you
  710. 24:25walked in and that was it? That was it.
  711. 24:27Everything was done um I know it wasn't
  712. 24:30it's not advised to
  713. 24:32uh
  714. 24:34buy the truck and and not look at it and
  715. 24:37and um do the the uh walk around and the
  716. 24:41um
  717. 24:41>> pre-purchase inspection, all that. You
  718. 24:43just like, "I'm going to get it. I'm so
  719. 24:44determined. I'm going to go and get it."
  720. 24:46Well, I knew I knew that their
  721. 24:47maintenance program
  722. 24:50you know, and I one of their things that
  723. 24:52and almost pushed me away from that I I
  724. 24:54need to say this and it almost pushed me
  725. 24:56at that point in time I was really
  726. 24:57listening to um I was going through the
  727. 25:00Kevin Rutherford
  728. 25:01like stop holding the steering wheel
  729. 25:03program he has or whatever for new owner
  730. 25:05operators to to get into the field and
  731. 25:08there was a slew of things that he
  732. 25:09suggested to to do the ECM report. So
  733. 25:12like I call this company up you know
  734. 25:14TMC truck sales and I said you know look
  735. 25:16I need the ECM report on this truck and
  736. 25:18they said no we don't we don't do that.
  737. 25:20We we don't we don't give up the
  738. 25:22records.
  739. 25:23>> [laughter]
  740. 25:24>> Yeah. Almost walked away from the deal
  741. 25:26and then I kind of got thinking about it
  742. 25:28like talked to my
  743. 25:31my daughter's boyfriend's father and and
  744. 25:33he said look at they have a good
  745. 25:34maintenance program
  746. 25:36um
  747. 25:37and that
  748. 25:38Peterbilt 579's with the with the
  749. 25:40Cummins motor X15 you know that
  750. 25:44they're good motor good truck and uh
  751. 25:47so I I I pulled the plug or um pulled
  752. 25:51the pin I I guess you'd say and uh and
  753. 25:53went ahead and went that route.
  754. 25:55Automatic automatic transmission right?
  755. 25:57>> Yes sir yes sir yep it's a 12 12 speed
  756. 26:00automatic um and I grew up running
  757. 26:03manual transmission trucks uh years ago
  758. 26:07bouncing around running dump truck for
  759. 26:08my uncle but it was his first automatic
  760. 26:11dump truck and I hated that coming up
  761. 26:13out of the hole loaded it had no power
  762. 26:15this was years ago it was I I don't I
  763. 26:17don't think it was a new truck.
  764. 26:18>> back then were completely different than
  765. 26:20right now. No power at all like I don't
  766. 26:23want to be in this and it was a brand
  767. 26:24new truck I didn't want to be in it and
  768. 26:26um Yeah gear skipping not not no gear
  769. 26:29skipping it would just be one two three
  770. 26:32>> Yeah yeah one by one like oh my god what
  771. 26:34is this going on?
  772. 26:35>> if it got there yeah especially loaded
  773. 26:37with a dump truck
  774. 26:38um so
  775. 26:39uh
  776. 26:40I never thought I'd I'd buy an automatic
  777. 26:42uh tractor um so I I tested the first
  778. 26:45company I started running regional OTR
  779. 26:48for uh
  780. 26:50I had a manual tested on a manual and
  781. 26:53then they put me in a uh I think it was
  782. 26:55a 2020 Freightliner Cascadia.
  783. 26:58Um actually no, I started out on a
  784. 27:01International 625.
  785. 27:03Um which wasn't a It wasn't a bad truck.
  786. 27:05No, well, depends how you with with
  787. 27:07Cummins engines with manuals, they're
  788. 27:08they're okay. The quality built quality
  789. 27:10is obviously not
  790. 27:12as good as it is on Cascadia, but
  791. 27:15I've had I've had a lot of those. It's
  792. 27:17at a half a million miles versus a
  793. 27:19Peterbilt and International and Volvo
  794. 27:22and Cascadia. I mean, you can tell which
  795. 27:23one is the weakest quality truck.
  796. 27:25>> Yeah. The the the ride quality, the the
  797. 27:28rattling, the you know, um the companies
  798. 27:32I
  799. 27:32>> cheaper also for a reason, right?
  800. 27:33They're cheaper when you buy them new
  801. 27:35and they're cheaper on the resale
  802. 27:36market. It's I mean, that there's a
  803. 27:38reason for that, right?
  804. 27:39>> They serve the purpose for for the right
  805. 27:41buyer, right? The right person. I was
  806. 27:43looking for something
  807. 27:44on its second life, I guess. Like
  808. 27:46knowing that
  809. 27:49you never know when something's going to
  810. 27:50happen. We we talk about this a lot on
  811. 27:52your channel that, you know, like
  812. 27:54one of the one of them things that I do
  813. 27:56today is prepare for that, putting money
  814. 27:57away in a maintenance fund and and uh
  815. 28:01parent preparing for for
  816. 28:03uh
  817. 28:03um
  818. 28:05the big thing, you know? It It's not
  819. 28:07It's not if it's going to happen, it's
  820. 28:09when it's going to happen, you know?
  821. 28:10Blowing a blowing a transmission,
  822. 28:11clutch, uh motor blown.
  823. 28:15But, you know, so it's got It's got a
  824. 28:17It's
  825. 28:17>> Differentials, I mean, everything.
  826. 28:18>> Yeah.
  827. 28:19It's a 2019 Peterbilt 579 mid roof, you
  828. 28:22know? Like I I seen them out there on
  829. 28:23the road. Every time a a TMC truck went
  830. 28:26by, wow, they're nice, you know? So,
  831. 28:29when I pulled the plug, I I I end up um
  832. 28:31I worked straight up from from going
  833. 28:33down and picking up the truck. I rented
  834. 28:34a car and uh drove down. What a weekend
  835. 28:37that was. I I I come home from Virginia
  836. 28:40North Carolina with the company truck,
  837. 28:42parked it in the yard. Uh got a ride up
  838. 28:44to the airport and picked up a rental
  839. 28:46car. Drove straight through
  840. 28:49um to
  841. 28:50uh to Virginia. Uh stopped to see my
  842. 28:52daughter. And um right from there to to
  843. 28:56South Carolina to pick up my truck.
  844. 28:59Uh dropped the TMC truck sales gentleman
  845. 29:02um one of the one of the sales reps
  846. 29:03dropped me off at the uh met him there
  847. 29:06at the at the yard and um
  848. 29:09and he brought me over to drop the the
  849. 29:10truck off or is a car off the rental car
  850. 29:12and uh just started putting my stuff in
  851. 29:15the truck and
  852. 29:16God, when I pulled up I was so excited.
  853. 29:19I
  854. 29:19you know, there was so many questions
  855. 29:21that I I wish I had This is one of the
  856. 29:23things that I would suggest anybody
  857. 29:25looking at a truck or or the even
  858. 29:27purchase a truck to write things down.
  859. 29:29Write questions down. The stuff The
  860. 29:32stuff that comes on whether it's in your
  861. 29:33notes on on a cell phone or notepad
  862. 29:36cuz there's so many questions that I
  863. 29:37wish I asked um
  864. 29:39that that could have been answered right
  865. 29:41there. There's a lot of
  866. 29:43>> you got a good the good truck. You've
  867. 29:44been using it for a while. You've made
  868. 29:46your money with it. You I know you've
  869. 29:47been saving now you you're in a
  870. 29:50transition. So tell me Dennis, what is
  871. 29:51your what's what's the next What's the
  872. 29:54What's 2026 look is going to look like
  873. 29:56for you? What's your plan for this year?
  874. 29:58So I just you know I I gave up at least
  875. 30:01on to a company. There was a couple
  876. 30:03companies and this is one of the things
  877. 30:05I really want to put out there is is
  878. 30:07the hurdles that I struggled trying to
  879. 30:12um become an owner operator and and that
  880. 30:15the
  881. 30:16companies that I I was able to to lease
  882. 30:18on to because of my my past, right? Like
  883. 30:20I got some baggage. Uh
  884. 30:22I'm
  885. 30:233 years now 4 years out from from uh a
  886. 30:26felony drug charge. Well, companies want
  887. 30:28a 5 years, 7 years like the bigger
  888. 30:31companies, you know, Landstar, Mercer.
  889. 30:33And those are the companies that I've
  890. 30:35heard that were were the companies that
  891. 30:36you want to get on with, you know? Uh So
  892. 30:39I was a a bit limited at the companies
  893. 30:41that I I wanted to I looked at you know
  894. 30:43Bennett um out there in South Carolina
  895. 30:46um and again I wanted to get into heavy
  896. 30:48haul and flatbed work JRC PGT um
  897. 30:52and I found a company online I don't
  898. 30:54know if it was through indeed or or one
  899. 30:56of the the hiring sites and
  900. 30:58I'm still a company driver my truck's
  901. 31:00now sitting in the yard one of the
  902. 31:01things I I first uh did did do as well
  903. 31:05as as brought it right to Pittsburgh
  904. 31:06Power um before I went out on the road
  905. 31:08with it they've got the overhead down
  906. 31:10the DPF
  907. 31:11let's talk about that in a little bit so
  908. 31:14finding that right company was was a
  909. 31:16little bit of a process and and trying
  910. 31:17to get um over those hurdles of of the
  911. 31:23the uh
  912. 31:24my past um
  913. 31:26and finding the right company as well
  914. 31:28somebody that there was so many
  915. 31:29companies that that offered you every
  916. 31:31even even as a company driver there's so
  917. 31:33many companies out there that offer you
  918. 31:35the world we're going to pay you a
  919. 31:37dollar twenty as a company driver or the
  920. 31:39dollar twenty a mile paid loaded
  921. 31:42unloaded you're going to be home every
  922. 31:44weekend so same thing as an owner
  923. 31:46operator power only whatever all these
  924. 31:48companies offer you the world you're
  925. 31:50going to get ninety ninety ten split
  926. 31:52you're going to bring home thirteen
  927. 31:54thousand dollars a month or a week you
  928. 31:56know they don't tell you all the all the
  929. 31:58deductions and everything that they're
  930. 32:00going to take out of that
  931. 32:01so we've been through it kind of putting
  932. 32:04myself in in check you know and and
  933. 32:06being a little naive about the the you
  934. 32:08know my cost currently putting together
  935. 32:11my cost per mile you know one of the
  936. 32:12things that was was a huge thing to to
  937. 32:15know my baseline you know one of the
  938. 32:16things that you helped me out with
  939. 32:18when I first got started on on the the
  940. 32:21um
  941. 32:22trucking trip figuring that out was a
  942. 32:24huge thing I'm not going to run it at
  943. 32:27two dollars and twenty cents a mile it's
  944. 32:29not paying it's not paying what I had so
  945. 32:31once I got that mindset like maybe I'm
  946. 32:33getting screwed here like this ninety
  947. 32:35ten split isn't isn't something's
  948. 32:37something's a little funny and and they
  949. 32:39were they got me they were the easiest
  950. 32:41company to for me to get on to and start
  951. 32:45the transition into owner operator and
  952. 32:48that's why I went with them. It might
  953. 32:49not have been the company that I
  954. 32:51necessarily wanted to to be on or
  955. 32:53hauling with which brings me to where
  956. 32:55I'm at today. You know, I've been home
  957. 32:58um
  958. 32:59Oh, been home for a little bit.
  959. 33:01>> Getting ready. I know you're getting
  960. 33:02ready. I know you're about to hear it
  961. 33:03getting itchy. I can see that. Yeah,
  962. 33:06I've been home for a little bit.
  963. 33:07Um so
  964. 33:09I was out with that company that I was I
  965. 33:11was leased on to that were out of
  966. 33:12Illinois and came home. I I had actually
  967. 33:15they were pushing me to get into step
  968. 33:16deck. I went and rented a 53-ft step
  969. 33:20deck for myself and um to try to
  970. 33:22increase my revenue per per week.
  971. 33:25Um and I I went and rented that and that
  972. 33:27that that day um I rented that. I sat
  973. 33:30there waiting to get loaded waiting
  974. 33:31waiting to catch a load waiting to catch
  975. 33:33a load and I just said, "The hell with
  976. 33:35it." You know, after talking to a couple
  977. 33:37of close friends that I've have now in
  978. 33:40the in the trucking field or I just
  979. 33:43And I've had was kind of talking with
  980. 33:45JRC Transport um is is who I'm leased on
  981. 33:48to right now. Um
  982. 33:50um I'm leased on pretty much all ready
  983. 33:52to roll through the truck inspection.
  984. 33:55Uh still got to do a a little
  985. 33:57orientation, get my ELD installed, but
  986. 33:59um I used a compliance company to when I
  987. 34:02was out with the other company to
  988. 34:05um get my own plates, you know, my own
  989. 34:07base plates. So that has been a process.
  990. 34:10New York State is very very difficult.
  991. 34:13You know, I need to say that like I
  992. 34:14wanted to go out and be a be get my own
  993. 34:16authority right right from the get-go
  994. 34:17and and become a power only with the
  995. 34:19company that I was running running for
  996. 34:22and the insurance factor
  997. 34:24in New York State was unbelievable. So
  998. 34:26my quote was $33,000 a year and um
  999. 34:30>> Yeah, as a a new new entry into into the
  1000. 34:34field as as an owner operator new
  1001. 34:36authority
  1002. 34:38um
  1003. 34:39and I was scared. I was nervous, you
  1004. 34:40know, like it was bad enough I was
  1005. 34:42buying my own truck and buying that and
  1006. 34:44financing a truck and and
  1007. 34:47um all this money that I saved over the
  1008. 34:48last last couple years and putting that
  1009. 34:50the bank account starting to dwindle and
  1010. 34:53you know, like uh the the bill from
  1011. 34:55getting the overhead the DPF clean and
  1012. 34:58and going through through the truck
  1013. 34:59before I went out there.
  1014. 35:01Uh I was starting to get nervous, you
  1015. 35:03know, um so I I leased on to a company
  1016. 35:06and uh stayed with them for
  1017. 35:08January I think I went with them and I
  1018. 35:10just left uh 3 4 weeks ago. Um
  1019. 35:13I started having the talk with JRC and
  1020. 35:15and
  1021. 35:16uh
  1022. 35:17pulled the pin on that just drove home
  1023. 35:19and uh and been um getting on boarded
  1024. 35:23getting on boarded with them. I got my
  1025. 35:25own plates. Uh the process like I said
  1026. 35:27was pretty uh
  1027. 35:28pretty difficult getting all of that
  1028. 35:30paperwork together and
  1029. 35:32not knowing a lot of things that I'm I'm
  1030. 35:34I'm still young uh in the in this owner
  1031. 35:36operator owner operator field, right?
  1032. 35:38Like I'm still learning. You don't know
  1033. 35:40what you don't know what they they they
  1034. 35:41they don't know, you know, um you think
  1035. 35:43you're prepared. You think you're ready
  1036. 35:45and s- some days I just feel like a
  1037. 35:48little overwhelmed. I'm not techy by far
  1038. 35:50as you know,
  1039. 35:51>> [laughter]
  1040. 35:52>> um
  1041. 35:53Well, you're doing great, Dennis. Do you
  1042. 35:55I can tell you
  1043. 35:56the number one thing I you're the
  1044. 35:58mindset you have is what what I would
  1045. 36:01wish a lot of owner operators had is is
  1046. 36:03not just you I know how to drive a
  1047. 36:05truck. I'll buy a truck and now I'm
  1048. 36:06going to know I'm an owner operator. You
  1049. 36:08know
  1050. 36:09you know better than that. You know that
  1051. 36:11there's so much more that you have to
  1052. 36:13learn and you're open-minded. You're
  1053. 36:14always if you're not adding value then
  1054. 36:17then then then you're always open to
  1055. 36:19receive value and that is very great
  1056. 36:20mind
  1057. 36:21I like that a lot because that's that's
  1058. 36:23what our group is about, right? It's
  1059. 36:25just learning new things and being
  1060. 36:26open-minded like hey, well, you know
  1061. 36:28what? Everybody collectively has a lot
  1062. 36:29of experience, but there are situations
  1063. 36:31that you haven't been through yet in
  1064. 36:33>> [snorts]
  1065. 36:33>> as an owner-operator, as a fresh
  1066. 36:35owner-operator pretty much for you as
  1067. 36:37you just started." And
  1068. 36:38it's like
  1069. 36:40that approach is what's going to help
  1070. 36:42you be successful and then you're going
  1071. 36:43to you're always planning planning ahead
  1072. 36:45and you're always thinking what's next
  1073. 36:46be around the corner and how can I earn
  1074. 36:49more [snorts] and save more and build my
  1075. 36:51dry powder and and the cushion for for,
  1076. 36:54you know, rainy day. And
  1077. 36:55>> [snorts]
  1078. 36:55>> you have that mindset, which which is
  1079. 36:57the mindset that I wish every
  1080. 36:59owner-operator had. Well, you know, like
  1081. 37:01I was
  1082. 37:02I felt like I wasn't doing it right, you
  1083. 37:03know, I felt like if I
  1084. 37:05I really felt like I was kind of
  1085. 37:06failing. Not Not at The truck driving's
  1086. 37:09easy part, right? Like, we can all
  1087. 37:11drive.
  1088. 37:12Um I mean, some some guys don't don't
  1089. 37:14want to, but I I'll I'll drive till my
  1090. 37:16hours are up, you know, like I'm I'm one
  1091. 37:18of those guys that
  1092. 37:19I'll drive as much as I can every single
  1093. 37:21day. I love driving. I love listening to
  1094. 37:23content while driving.
  1095. 37:25Um the pre-trips, the, you know, getting
  1096. 37:28out there doing I like turning wrenches,
  1097. 37:30you know, like I like to do my own work
  1098. 37:32as much as I can. The knowledge that I
  1099. 37:33do have from over the years of
  1100. 37:36I don't know everything about
  1101. 37:37everything. I don't know, you know, um
  1102. 37:40but I am learning through sites like
  1103. 37:42yours and and and other other sites, the
  1104. 37:44friends that I've made. I can I can
  1105. 37:45pretty much call up anybody throughout
  1106. 37:48any any period of the day and and kind
  1107. 37:50of pick their brain um on how to do
  1108. 37:52something or get some knowledge on on
  1109. 37:54something I I might not know about, you
  1110. 37:56know, so I'm thankful for that, those
  1111. 37:57friends that I've made and the contacts
  1112. 37:59that I've made. Um Well, I can tell you
  1113. 38:01when when we figured out your rate per
  1114. 38:03mile,
  1115. 38:04you thought you weren't doing good, but
  1116. 38:06all of a sudden we realized like, "Hey,
  1117. 38:07you're actually doing pretty good." And
  1118. 38:09I remember looking at your how
  1119. 38:11disciplined you were with your numbers
  1120. 38:13and then we just figured it out and it
  1121. 38:15was like, "Oh, I was worried about the
  1122. 38:16taxes, remember? I
  1123. 38:18was I putting So, I I went S-corp. Um
  1124. 38:22It was a decision I made instead of um
  1125. 38:25instead of just getting an LLC, I knew
  1126. 38:27that I was starting out in January,
  1127. 38:29$90,000 is that with the accountant that
  1128. 38:32I have, if I'm if I'm planning on making
  1129. 38:35over $90,000 that your tax benefits
  1130. 38:38would be better as as an S-corp.
  1131. 38:41>> 100%. I I also did an S-corp when I
  1132. 38:42started as an owner-op. That's that's
  1133. 38:44that's the way to go in my opinion.
  1134. 38:45>> Yeah. People do also LLCs, right? Yeah.
  1135. 38:48Yeah. I mean, not that they're each each
  1136. 38:50person's a little bit different, too.
  1137. 38:51You know, like each each scenario's a
  1138. 38:53little bit different for for everybody.
  1139. 38:55The the thing that was going to work
  1140. 38:56best for me was the S-corp, you know,
  1141. 38:58and and again, an accountant. I didn't
  1142. 39:01know how to do paperwork and stuff like
  1143. 39:02that. Well, one of the things I was pick
  1144. 39:04your brain, right? Like you and Dom, am
  1145. 39:06I doing it right?
  1146. 39:07Am I putting enough money away? I'm
  1147. 39:09worried. Like my maintenance fund, like
  1148. 39:11what's what am I doing wrong? I'm doing
  1149. 39:13something wrong. And uh I met with the
  1150. 39:15accountant probably
  1151. 39:172 months ago now, and he said, "Look,
  1152. 39:18you're doing you're doing things right.
  1153. 39:20You're putting you're saving all your
  1154. 39:22receipts.
  1155. 39:23Um I'm putting my uh I got my cost per
  1156. 39:26mile figured out. Um
  1157. 39:30I'm putting all the receipts each month
  1158. 39:32and and keeping keeping a logbook. I'm
  1159. 39:34not on uh QuickBooks or anything like
  1160. 39:37that. I use uh
  1161. 39:39I use just envelopes uh
  1162. 39:42envelope system um and keep all my
  1163. 39:44receipts with my my fuel all my fuel
  1164. 39:47receipts and and keep track of my fuel
  1165. 39:49mileage, right? Like that's that's a
  1166. 39:50huge thing, too. Um I use the uh the the
  1167. 39:53fuel gauges Kevin Rutherford's fuel
  1168. 39:55gauges. Now, I
  1169. 39:57actually purchased the um profit gauges
  1170. 39:59that that he offers as well. So, that's
  1171. 40:01been a a tremendous help.
  1172. 40:03Now, I'm I'm doing my paperwork.
  1173. 40:06I'll do it a couple times a month, but I
  1174. 40:08generally could do it um I'm down to
  1175. 40:10maybe an hour an hour and a half at the
  1176. 40:12end of the month. Once once the month
  1177. 40:14over, I can enter all my settlements and
  1178. 40:16receipts in in probably an hour hour and
  1179. 40:18a half and then and that's long as I'm
  1180. 40:20staying on top of the
  1181. 40:22um
  1182. 40:23the weekly stuff and making sure
  1183. 40:25everything's in the right envelope and
  1184. 40:26and I can just jump right in and get
  1185. 40:28that taken care of, you know. Um so the
  1186. 40:31all that's was a learning curve for me.
  1187. 40:33Uh
  1188. 40:34stuffing like you hear these stories of
  1189. 40:38guys going to their accountant with a
  1190. 40:39with a shoe box full of receipts, you
  1191. 40:41know, and the money and I've had so many
  1192. 40:43expenses um you know gearing up, you
  1193. 40:46know, tooling up tooling up. Now going
  1194. 40:48into the
  1195. 40:49>> That's not that you didn't make money
  1196. 40:50cuz you did. It's you're more
  1197. 40:51reinvesting a lot of it back into the
  1198. 40:53business. That's there's a difference.
  1199. 40:54You are profitable and I know you are.
  1200. 40:56So don't say you are not making money.
  1201. 40:58>> [laughter]
  1202. 40:59>> I know I know you [clears throat] are.
  1203. 41:01But that is Listen, I want to we can
  1204. 41:02talk for hours and obviously we'll do it
  1205. 41:04again, but tell me you I know you
  1206. 41:05started the YouTube channel. Tell me
  1207. 41:07what your YouTube channel is called.
  1208. 41:09Yeah.
  1209. 41:09>> And um and I'll link it obviously, but
  1210. 41:11just share it really quickly. I know you
  1211. 41:13just started, but what's the channel
  1212. 41:14name? Yeah, so I I started a channel a
  1213. 41:16couple days ago. Um
  1214. 41:18Semper So the name of my
  1215. 41:21um trucking company um my S Corp is
  1216. 41:22Semper s e m p e r space f i Semper Fi
  1217. 41:28Logistics Incorporated. So Semper Fi is
  1218. 41:30a a Marine Corps slogan.
  1219. 41:32Um means always faithful.
  1220. 41:33Um so that's kind of that's my trucking
  1221. 41:36company Semper Fi Logistics and so I'm
  1222. 41:38on YouTube now with Semper Fi Logistics
  1223. 41:40Inc.
  1224. 41:41Um just started a couple days ago. Text
  1225. 41:43text with with you on the on the chat,
  1226. 41:45right? Like how do I how do I post on
  1227. 41:47YouTube? [laughter]
  1228. 41:49You said start out doing shorts. So
  1229. 41:50that's I just got on there. You know,
  1230. 41:52Dom Dom gave me a heads up. He says just
  1231. 41:54hit the plus button at the bottom of the
  1232. 41:55page and that's how I started taking
  1233. 41:57pictures, you know, and uh Share your
  1234. 42:00share your journey, share your story and
  1235. 42:02and people start to uh follow you and
  1236. 42:04>> Yeah, so like you and So going um I
  1237. 42:07think I'm I was at nine
  1238. 42:10But, first post I made today I was 942
  1239. 42:13views of my first post, you know.
  1240. 42:16Um, so, I want What I want to do is
  1241. 42:17support other other
  1242. 42:19um other people going into the industry,
  1243. 42:21right? That that have uh
  1244. 42:23possibly addiction problems or um just
  1245. 42:26need help in general. Um, that have
  1246. 42:28hurdles or or want to pick pick our
  1247. 42:30brains and and and gain from the
  1248. 42:32knowledge of the the hurdles that we've
  1249. 42:35had to to go through. Um, I
  1250. 42:38am passionate about about the recovery
  1251. 42:40piece and and and helping people as
  1252. 42:42well. Um, I love to to help people just
  1253. 42:45just love to help people in general.
  1254. 42:47There's some there's some not so nice
  1255. 42:48people out there, right? Like uh there's
  1256. 42:50so many things going around in in the
  1257. 42:52industry right now, but the non-domicile
  1258. 42:55and everything like that, you know. I'm
  1259. 42:57not a hater. Yeah. I'm not a hater.
  1260. 43:01Yeah, but it is happening, right?
  1261. 43:02There's
  1262. 43:04we and some truckers and the industry's
  1263. 43:07getting the bad end of the stick and you
  1264. 43:09just you're trying to do the things
  1265. 43:11right and there others that just don't
  1266. 43:12care and it's it's not it's you know,
  1267. 43:14it's it's it's tough. I think it's going
  1268. 43:16to get better. I think you're doing
  1269. 43:18great, Dennis. I think your your story
  1270. 43:20is interesting. I I think
  1271. 43:22kudos to you for how you managed to turn
  1272. 43:26everything around and start building
  1273. 43:28something for yourself. I really really
  1274. 43:30appreciate
  1275. 43:31Moving forward, Sebastian, like so my
  1276. 43:34journey with with the YouTube, my idea
  1277. 43:36is to really kind of put it out there
  1278. 43:38for me starting with now going into the
  1279. 43:40open open deck uh market and and uh
  1280. 43:44field. So, it's going to be right. I'm
  1281. 43:46going to try to bring be transparent
  1282. 43:49with um with everything that I got going
  1283. 43:50on. My loads, I'm trying I'm going to
  1284. 43:52try to broadcast or post uh tarping the
  1285. 43:56loads, the whole learning curve, and and
  1286. 43:59get just getting out there into it into
  1287. 44:00a new market, you know? And I'm excited.
  1288. 44:03I'm super excited. You know,
  1289. 44:05>> That would be an amazing I I'm excited
  1290. 44:07for you cuz I I know you're a great guy
  1291. 44:09to to talk to and follow and I really
  1292. 44:12I'm really stoked for the content you're
  1293. 44:15going to put out. So Dennis, we got to
  1294. 44:17run. Thank you so much. We'll we'll hang
  1295. 44:20out again. We'll talk and you will give
  1296. 44:23us an update at obviously if anybody's
  1297. 44:25interested checking out our group it's
  1298. 44:27shocking business.com. You can just go
  1299. 44:29to can find us on school or we have a
  1300. 44:31link in the description. Join our free
  1301. 44:33community. Everybody's there and we have
  1302. 44:35a ton of ton of owner operators and then
  1303. 44:38>> [clears throat]
  1304. 44:38>> Dennis is there. Can you still see uh
  1305. 44:40Dennis?
  1306. 44:41Yeah.
  1307. 44:41>> still see Jazzy? So that's that's my
  1308. 44:43road dog back there. That's that's
  1309. 44:44Jazzy. Um she's a she's a little
  1310. 44:46Havanese. We actually we
  1311. 44:48we picked her up in Chicago up by you.
  1312. 44:50>> Nice.
  1313. 44:52Well [laughter] So that's my road dog.
  1314. 44:53I'm going to be here with a step deck.
  1315. 44:54We got to we got to grab some coffee and
  1316. 44:56hang out and catch up in real life. So
  1317. 44:58appreciate you. Thank you for sharing
  1318. 45:00your story Dennis and have a good night
  1319. 45:02and I'll talk to you later.

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