Fritz Perls en Terapia Gestalt de parejas (Inédito) / Subtitulado al español — Transcript
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- 0:08we spoke yesterday about the life script
- 0:11of a
- 0:13person
- 0:15and in this life
- 0:18script
- 0:20we have a number of other people
- 0:26involved be it that we need other people
- 0:30for a certain amount of support
- 0:32emotional other
- 0:35support especially the support for our
- 0:39selfesteem or that we need another
- 0:42person for
- 0:43our feeding or sexual
- 0:47needs but in very many cases our life
- 0:51script demands
- 0:57marriage and the trouble in a marriage
- 1:01starts if the spouse does not fit into
- 1:07that life
- 1:09script in other words if a person is not
- 1:13in love with his
- 1:16spouse but with an image what this
- 1:19spouse should
- 1:23be now very
- 1:26rarely does the image of the spouse and
- 1:30the real
- 1:31person
- 1:33fit so there be frustrations and
- 1:39difficulties and
- 1:41especially if a person is cursed with
- 1:46perfectionism then you're really in for
- 1:49trouble the curse of perfectionism is
- 1:52the worst thing that can befall any
- 1:54person once you're perfectionist you
- 1:57have a yard stick we can always beat
- 1:59your yourself and beat other
- 2:01people because you demand them possible
- 2:05and once you start demanding them
- 2:07possible from your
- 2:11partner then the resentment starts the
- 2:15blaming game irritations and so on and
- 2:18so
- 2:21on so in our marriage game we can't do
- 2:26much more than just playing games here
- 2:30and finding
- 2:33some
- 2:35basis for where people stand with each
- 2:39other let's start with the same kind of
- 2:43communication approach as we used in the
- 2:48awareness in other words I like let's
- 2:52first get you two
- 2:58here would you face the
- 3:04enemy so your name is
- 3:12CLA and I would like you to do this in
- 3:17exchange withdrawing to yourself with
- 3:19word
- 3:20I and then come back to Dawn and say you
- 3:25go back again I and you and you do the
- 3:28same shly and see to what degree a
- 3:33simple communication is
- 3:36possible and what we are most interested
- 3:39in of course is what kind of
- 3:41communication do you
- 3:46avoid because there are plenty of
- 3:49catastrophic
- 3:50expectation if I tell you what I really
- 3:53think about you you will not like me you
- 3:56will leave me or whatever the cast toic
- 4:00expectations
- 4:11are I find it hard to go into
- 4:22myself I want to go out to
- 4:26you and assure you that I
- 4:30with
- 4:34you go back again I go into
- 4:39myself and I want
- 4:42to be myself
- 4:47too I
- 4:50want are you aware that you're full of
- 4:53good intentions I want I want I want
- 4:56this you're not telling us what you're
- 4:58aware of
- 5:00but what you want in other
- 5:03words you're not in the now you're not
- 5:06telling us what you're doing but you
- 5:08what you
- 5:10want okay
- 5:13Don um I'm back to the clutch in myself
- 5:20here and uh I find it's easy to go into
- 5:26myself um and more difficult come to
- 5:32you and
- 5:35um I think I I was I was aware I am not
- 5:40remembering that I was aware that I when
- 5:42I looked at all the people I didn't look
- 5:43at
- 5:44you when I sat here
- 5:48before this is very simple clear symptom
- 5:51of avoidance if you avoid looking at
- 5:54another person means that you're not
- 5:58open
- 6:01yeah you
- 6:11to I'm aware of tension outside
- 6:16myself s
- 6:18of
- 6:26dropping cing for expect
- 6:32ation unware of your
- 6:39calm
- 6:41uncertainty what's
- 6:42[Applause]
- 6:48underneath I'm aware of my inadequacy
- 6:52to express
- 6:58myself for holding
- 7:02[Applause]
- 7:03myself being
- 7:05[Music]
- 7:06unsure are you aware of your
- 7:10voice
- 7:12quiet can you talk to Don about your
- 7:15voice what you're doing to him with your
- 7:25voice well I hope it's not so quiet that
- 7:28you have to too strange to hear me
- 7:32you're hoping what are you
- 7:36doing I'm talking softly yeah
- 7:45hesitantly I'm
- 7:49certain by the way this low voice is
- 7:53always a symptom of hidden
- 7:57cruelty it's one of the best means of
- 8:00touching other
- 8:07people it's not always
- 8:16s
- 8:21don't I'm aware that I am calmer
- 8:25now
- 8:27um I think I am calm partly because I
- 8:31feel your
- 8:32uncertainty and your
- 8:35fear and uh this places a
- 8:39demand on
- 8:41my being here and
- 8:46present
- 8:50um inside I feel a kind of
- 8:58rigidity
- 9:02I think I'm trying to say to
- 9:06you are you aware that you always say I
- 9:09think I'm
- 9:14trying could you tell us what you're
- 9:17aware
- 9:21of um I'm aware of a sense that I'm
- 9:28becoming like con
- 9:31conrete sort of setting sort
- 9:35of like I I am
- 9:40setting moving towards
- 9:44[Applause]
- 9:49rigidity everything is
- 9:57still what do you want for me
- 10:01um I feel what do you want for
- 10:06me well I was going to start to speak to
- 10:09him I guess I was checking with you
- 10:12you're checking up with
- 10:15me I didn't feel
- 10:17[Applause]
- 10:20happy I
- 10:22guess was guidance that I was doing the
- 10:26right thing could you tell him to seal
- 10:33I don't like to tell see that I'm
- 10:37looking to him for guidance but I
- 10:39realize my attitude has implied
- 10:43that I was going to say I felt resentful
- 10:46that you became
- 10:48rigid and you felt that I was
- 10:52fearful that I can handle my own
- 10:55fearfulness and it made me feel quite
- 10:58strong okay let's have couple number two
- 11:01I don't want to go any deeper yet I just
- 11:03want to get the first idea of how much
- 11:06communication is there to
- 11:23cross your name is R your name
- 11:28isny
- 11:47look once
- 11:48more the experiment is so
- 11:52simple I don't mind you to be somewhat
- 11:55rigid about it first what am I wear in
- 11:58regard to myself and what am I aware in
- 12:02regard to you what am I aware in regard
- 12:04to myself what am I aware to regard to
- 12:11you if this is too much of a task please
- 12:16say
- 12:17so then we have to deal with the
- 12:20difficulty in comprehending such a
- 12:23simple
- 12:25request I'm aware that I'm afraid of
- 12:28what you're going to say
- 12:54I can
- 12:58listen
- 13:13you I'm aware of the tenseness in my
- 13:18chest I'm aware of your looking at me
- 13:22very
- 13:27intensely you seem to want me to carry
- 13:30the
- 13:33ball is this what you're aware of or is
- 13:36this what you think that's what I
- 13:41think I'm aware that I want you to do
- 13:44that I want you to get me primed and
- 13:48aware them are you aware of your heads
- 13:50doing do
- 13:52this now please try the most difficult
- 13:59task of all stick to the
- 14:08obvious it's obvious that you just made
- 14:11this movement with your
- 14:13head it's obvious that you're holding
- 14:16your hands this way it's obvious that
- 14:18you're nodding your
- 14:21head try to get to the difficult task of
- 14:25simplic
- 14:28simplicity
- 14:34I'm aware that I'm trying too
- 14:38hard trying to relax and trying to hold
- 14:40on at the same
- 14:42time how are you doing this
- 14:46try my with my
- 14:49hands
- 14:51and my body is
- 14:54rigid I'm
- 14:58rigid
- 15:00now what are you aware of
- 15:09there your hands are saying
- 15:13something quietly
- 15:16softly you're leaning away from
- 15:21me no first time that he
- 15:25sees yeah now go back to yourself again
- 15:33you
- 15:36to I'm
- 15:39aware of the pressure in my right arm
- 15:43I'm aware that I'm leaning away from
- 15:45you I feel myself pulling back away from
- 15:50you I'm afraid of being sucked
- 15:56in you to
- 16:07oh what a suck
- 16:09human are you aware of
- 16:13what
- 16:15uh another
- 16:18difficult moment is that we are very
- 16:21much inclined to do this mind [ __ ]
- 16:25bit and talk talk talk talk talk just
- 16:29tell us your response what you actually
- 16:32feel you feel yourself sitting on a
- 16:35chair you feel yourself noing the
- 16:38head so be simple I feel I'm putting a
- 16:42lot of pressure on my right arm that's
- 16:44it see this I believe I'm holding myself
- 16:48back with my left yeah now we get a bit
- 16:53to
- 16:54reality now open your eyes again what do
- 16:57you see
- 17:00what do you
- 17:05hear second can't come all the way
- 17:10out okay thank
- 17:12you next
- 17:15couple it's unbelievable how people live
- 17:19together how little communication there
- 17:21is between them want to get to
- 17:26the West what called breast Tech uh
- 17:32level to the real
- 17:36level I'm aware of um what's your name
- 17:40an
- 17:44an I'm aware of my heart
- 17:50pounding and that I'm I'm aware of sort
- 17:54of sitting in this chair very
- 17:57um sort of
- 18:00solidly back in the
- 18:03chair with my arms kind of pro on each
- 18:10[Applause]
- 18:18side and I'm aware of
- 18:22you looking
- 18:26very uh intently
- 18:29into my
- 18:34eyes and breathing um more quickly or at
- 18:40least I'm aware of your
- 18:51breathing my heart is
- 18:56thumping and I'm leaning a little bit on
- 18:58my left
- 19:02arm another thing uh I seem totally to
- 19:07be settling settling
- 19:12down coming coming to Center
- 19:21you all right see
- 19:27you
- 19:29I
- 19:30see your face is
- 19:37being
- 19:39soft but a bit
- 19:42tense I I see your your your right
- 19:45shoulder just very
- 19:51slightly slightly
- 19:53tense are you aware of what your eyes
- 19:55are
- 19:57doing
- 19:59they're they're wandering
- 20:04around what are you voiding when you
- 20:06look at
- 20:10to
- 20:13I'm I'm trying to find myself right now
- 20:16I
- 20:19think and I'm not prepared to deal with
- 20:23what's out there until I come back here
- 20:25very good close your eyes
- 20:29and
- 20:30withdraw this is a very good example
- 20:33he's not ready to
- 20:35cope so here it needs more time
- 20:38for withdrawing into himself and get
- 20:42support from
- 20:49within what do we
- 20:53experience I experience a need really to
- 20:56readjust my position now and to to come
- 20:59right down the center just son
- 21:02[Applause]
- 21:04of come back to
- 21:08um take your time when you're ready to
- 21:11come back come
- 21:20back I'm experiencing some tension in my
- 21:23knees
- 21:25now my legs are shaking a bit
- 21:36[Applause]
- 21:37now let's integrate these two
- 21:42things tell her of your inner
- 21:50experiences I'm feeling a
- 21:52bit trembling now I'm feeling a bit
- 21:57uncertain
- 22:00nervous um
- 22:06[Applause]
- 22:13Twitchy that's changing now I'm I'm
- 22:16seeing you now ah you noticed what
- 22:20happened from the conceptual from the
- 22:25intentional to the attention to using
- 22:29this experience as a means of
- 22:35communication now he doesn't hide his
- 22:38trembling anymore he gives it to her and
- 22:42as soon you express yourself
- 22:46genuinely all discomfort disappears or
- 22:50if you feel uncomfortable you can be
- 22:52sure that you're not in honest
- 22:57communication
- 23:01okay thank
- 23:08you
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