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Fritz Perls en Terapia Gestalt de parejas (Inédito) / Subtitulado al español — Transcript

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  1. 0:08we spoke yesterday about the life script
  2. 0:11of a
  3. 0:13person
  4. 0:15and in this life
  5. 0:18script
  6. 0:20we have a number of other people
  7. 0:26involved be it that we need other people
  8. 0:30for a certain amount of support
  9. 0:32emotional other
  10. 0:35support especially the support for our
  11. 0:39selfesteem or that we need another
  12. 0:42person for
  13. 0:43our feeding or sexual
  14. 0:47needs but in very many cases our life
  15. 0:51script demands
  16. 0:57marriage and the trouble in a marriage
  17. 1:01starts if the spouse does not fit into
  18. 1:07that life
  19. 1:09script in other words if a person is not
  20. 1:13in love with his
  21. 1:16spouse but with an image what this
  22. 1:19spouse should
  23. 1:23be now very
  24. 1:26rarely does the image of the spouse and
  25. 1:30the real
  26. 1:31person
  27. 1:33fit so there be frustrations and
  28. 1:39difficulties and
  29. 1:41especially if a person is cursed with
  30. 1:46perfectionism then you're really in for
  31. 1:49trouble the curse of perfectionism is
  32. 1:52the worst thing that can befall any
  33. 1:54person once you're perfectionist you
  34. 1:57have a yard stick we can always beat
  35. 1:59your yourself and beat other
  36. 2:01people because you demand them possible
  37. 2:05and once you start demanding them
  38. 2:07possible from your
  39. 2:11partner then the resentment starts the
  40. 2:15blaming game irritations and so on and
  41. 2:18so
  42. 2:21on so in our marriage game we can't do
  43. 2:26much more than just playing games here
  44. 2:30and finding
  45. 2:33some
  46. 2:35basis for where people stand with each
  47. 2:39other let's start with the same kind of
  48. 2:43communication approach as we used in the
  49. 2:48awareness in other words I like let's
  50. 2:52first get you two
  51. 2:58here would you face the
  52. 3:04enemy so your name is
  53. 3:12CLA and I would like you to do this in
  54. 3:17exchange withdrawing to yourself with
  55. 3:19word
  56. 3:20I and then come back to Dawn and say you
  57. 3:25go back again I and you and you do the
  58. 3:28same shly and see to what degree a
  59. 3:33simple communication is
  60. 3:36possible and what we are most interested
  61. 3:39in of course is what kind of
  62. 3:41communication do you
  63. 3:46avoid because there are plenty of
  64. 3:49catastrophic
  65. 3:50expectation if I tell you what I really
  66. 3:53think about you you will not like me you
  67. 3:56will leave me or whatever the cast toic
  68. 4:00expectations
  69. 4:11are I find it hard to go into
  70. 4:22myself I want to go out to
  71. 4:26you and assure you that I
  72. 4:30with
  73. 4:34you go back again I go into
  74. 4:39myself and I want
  75. 4:42to be myself
  76. 4:47too I
  77. 4:50want are you aware that you're full of
  78. 4:53good intentions I want I want I want
  79. 4:56this you're not telling us what you're
  80. 4:58aware of
  81. 5:00but what you want in other
  82. 5:03words you're not in the now you're not
  83. 5:06telling us what you're doing but you
  84. 5:08what you
  85. 5:10want okay
  86. 5:13Don um I'm back to the clutch in myself
  87. 5:20here and uh I find it's easy to go into
  88. 5:26myself um and more difficult come to
  89. 5:32you and
  90. 5:35um I think I I was I was aware I am not
  91. 5:40remembering that I was aware that I when
  92. 5:42I looked at all the people I didn't look
  93. 5:43at
  94. 5:44you when I sat here
  95. 5:48before this is very simple clear symptom
  96. 5:51of avoidance if you avoid looking at
  97. 5:54another person means that you're not
  98. 5:58open
  99. 6:01yeah you
  100. 6:11to I'm aware of tension outside
  101. 6:16myself s
  102. 6:18of
  103. 6:26dropping cing for expect
  104. 6:32ation unware of your
  105. 6:39calm
  106. 6:41uncertainty what's
  107. 6:42[Applause]
  108. 6:48underneath I'm aware of my inadequacy
  109. 6:52to express
  110. 6:58myself for holding
  111. 7:02[Applause]
  112. 7:03myself being
  113. 7:05[Music]
  114. 7:06unsure are you aware of your
  115. 7:10voice
  116. 7:12quiet can you talk to Don about your
  117. 7:15voice what you're doing to him with your
  118. 7:25voice well I hope it's not so quiet that
  119. 7:28you have to too strange to hear me
  120. 7:32you're hoping what are you
  121. 7:36doing I'm talking softly yeah
  122. 7:45hesitantly I'm
  123. 7:49certain by the way this low voice is
  124. 7:53always a symptom of hidden
  125. 7:57cruelty it's one of the best means of
  126. 8:00touching other
  127. 8:07people it's not always
  128. 8:16s
  129. 8:21don't I'm aware that I am calmer
  130. 8:25now
  131. 8:27um I think I am calm partly because I
  132. 8:31feel your
  133. 8:32uncertainty and your
  134. 8:35fear and uh this places a
  135. 8:39demand on
  136. 8:41my being here and
  137. 8:46present
  138. 8:50um inside I feel a kind of
  139. 8:58rigidity
  140. 9:02I think I'm trying to say to
  141. 9:06you are you aware that you always say I
  142. 9:09think I'm
  143. 9:14trying could you tell us what you're
  144. 9:17aware
  145. 9:21of um I'm aware of a sense that I'm
  146. 9:28becoming like con
  147. 9:31conrete sort of setting sort
  148. 9:35of like I I am
  149. 9:40setting moving towards
  150. 9:44[Applause]
  151. 9:49rigidity everything is
  152. 9:57still what do you want for me
  153. 10:01um I feel what do you want for
  154. 10:06me well I was going to start to speak to
  155. 10:09him I guess I was checking with you
  156. 10:12you're checking up with
  157. 10:15me I didn't feel
  158. 10:17[Applause]
  159. 10:20happy I
  160. 10:22guess was guidance that I was doing the
  161. 10:26right thing could you tell him to seal
  162. 10:33I don't like to tell see that I'm
  163. 10:37looking to him for guidance but I
  164. 10:39realize my attitude has implied
  165. 10:43that I was going to say I felt resentful
  166. 10:46that you became
  167. 10:48rigid and you felt that I was
  168. 10:52fearful that I can handle my own
  169. 10:55fearfulness and it made me feel quite
  170. 10:58strong okay let's have couple number two
  171. 11:01I don't want to go any deeper yet I just
  172. 11:03want to get the first idea of how much
  173. 11:06communication is there to
  174. 11:23cross your name is R your name
  175. 11:28isny
  176. 11:47look once
  177. 11:48more the experiment is so
  178. 11:52simple I don't mind you to be somewhat
  179. 11:55rigid about it first what am I wear in
  180. 11:58regard to myself and what am I aware in
  181. 12:02regard to you what am I aware in regard
  182. 12:04to myself what am I aware to regard to
  183. 12:11you if this is too much of a task please
  184. 12:16say
  185. 12:17so then we have to deal with the
  186. 12:20difficulty in comprehending such a
  187. 12:23simple
  188. 12:25request I'm aware that I'm afraid of
  189. 12:28what you're going to say
  190. 12:54I can
  191. 12:58listen
  192. 13:13you I'm aware of the tenseness in my
  193. 13:18chest I'm aware of your looking at me
  194. 13:22very
  195. 13:27intensely you seem to want me to carry
  196. 13:30the
  197. 13:33ball is this what you're aware of or is
  198. 13:36this what you think that's what I
  199. 13:41think I'm aware that I want you to do
  200. 13:44that I want you to get me primed and
  201. 13:48aware them are you aware of your heads
  202. 13:50doing do
  203. 13:52this now please try the most difficult
  204. 13:59task of all stick to the
  205. 14:08obvious it's obvious that you just made
  206. 14:11this movement with your
  207. 14:13head it's obvious that you're holding
  208. 14:16your hands this way it's obvious that
  209. 14:18you're nodding your
  210. 14:21head try to get to the difficult task of
  211. 14:25simplic
  212. 14:28simplicity
  213. 14:34I'm aware that I'm trying too
  214. 14:38hard trying to relax and trying to hold
  215. 14:40on at the same
  216. 14:42time how are you doing this
  217. 14:46try my with my
  218. 14:49hands
  219. 14:51and my body is
  220. 14:54rigid I'm
  221. 14:58rigid
  222. 15:00now what are you aware of
  223. 15:09there your hands are saying
  224. 15:13something quietly
  225. 15:16softly you're leaning away from
  226. 15:21me no first time that he
  227. 15:25sees yeah now go back to yourself again
  228. 15:33you
  229. 15:36to I'm
  230. 15:39aware of the pressure in my right arm
  231. 15:43I'm aware that I'm leaning away from
  232. 15:45you I feel myself pulling back away from
  233. 15:50you I'm afraid of being sucked
  234. 15:56in you to
  235. 16:07oh what a suck
  236. 16:09human are you aware of
  237. 16:13what
  238. 16:15uh another
  239. 16:18difficult moment is that we are very
  240. 16:21much inclined to do this mind [ __ ]
  241. 16:25bit and talk talk talk talk talk just
  242. 16:29tell us your response what you actually
  243. 16:32feel you feel yourself sitting on a
  244. 16:35chair you feel yourself noing the
  245. 16:38head so be simple I feel I'm putting a
  246. 16:42lot of pressure on my right arm that's
  247. 16:44it see this I believe I'm holding myself
  248. 16:48back with my left yeah now we get a bit
  249. 16:53to
  250. 16:54reality now open your eyes again what do
  251. 16:57you see
  252. 17:00what do you
  253. 17:05hear second can't come all the way
  254. 17:10out okay thank
  255. 17:12you next
  256. 17:15couple it's unbelievable how people live
  257. 17:19together how little communication there
  258. 17:21is between them want to get to
  259. 17:26the West what called breast Tech uh
  260. 17:32level to the real
  261. 17:36level I'm aware of um what's your name
  262. 17:40an
  263. 17:44an I'm aware of my heart
  264. 17:50pounding and that I'm I'm aware of sort
  265. 17:54of sitting in this chair very
  266. 17:57um sort of
  267. 18:00solidly back in the
  268. 18:03chair with my arms kind of pro on each
  269. 18:10[Applause]
  270. 18:18side and I'm aware of
  271. 18:22you looking
  272. 18:26very uh intently
  273. 18:29into my
  274. 18:34eyes and breathing um more quickly or at
  275. 18:40least I'm aware of your
  276. 18:51breathing my heart is
  277. 18:56thumping and I'm leaning a little bit on
  278. 18:58my left
  279. 19:02arm another thing uh I seem totally to
  280. 19:07be settling settling
  281. 19:12down coming coming to Center
  282. 19:21you all right see
  283. 19:27you
  284. 19:29I
  285. 19:30see your face is
  286. 19:37being
  287. 19:39soft but a bit
  288. 19:42tense I I see your your your right
  289. 19:45shoulder just very
  290. 19:51slightly slightly
  291. 19:53tense are you aware of what your eyes
  292. 19:55are
  293. 19:57doing
  294. 19:59they're they're wandering
  295. 20:04around what are you voiding when you
  296. 20:06look at
  297. 20:10to
  298. 20:13I'm I'm trying to find myself right now
  299. 20:16I
  300. 20:19think and I'm not prepared to deal with
  301. 20:23what's out there until I come back here
  302. 20:25very good close your eyes
  303. 20:29and
  304. 20:30withdraw this is a very good example
  305. 20:33he's not ready to
  306. 20:35cope so here it needs more time
  307. 20:38for withdrawing into himself and get
  308. 20:42support from
  309. 20:49within what do we
  310. 20:53experience I experience a need really to
  311. 20:56readjust my position now and to to come
  312. 20:59right down the center just son
  313. 21:02[Applause]
  314. 21:04of come back to
  315. 21:08um take your time when you're ready to
  316. 21:11come back come
  317. 21:20back I'm experiencing some tension in my
  318. 21:23knees
  319. 21:25now my legs are shaking a bit
  320. 21:36[Applause]
  321. 21:37now let's integrate these two
  322. 21:42things tell her of your inner
  323. 21:50experiences I'm feeling a
  324. 21:52bit trembling now I'm feeling a bit
  325. 21:57uncertain
  326. 22:00nervous um
  327. 22:06[Applause]
  328. 22:13Twitchy that's changing now I'm I'm
  329. 22:16seeing you now ah you noticed what
  330. 22:20happened from the conceptual from the
  331. 22:25intentional to the attention to using
  332. 22:29this experience as a means of
  333. 22:35communication now he doesn't hide his
  334. 22:38trembling anymore he gives it to her and
  335. 22:42as soon you express yourself
  336. 22:46genuinely all discomfort disappears or
  337. 22:50if you feel uncomfortable you can be
  338. 22:52sure that you're not in honest
  339. 22:57communication
  340. 23:01okay thank
  341. 23:08you

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