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FOMC Press Conference, October 28, 2026 — Transcript

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  1. 0:09Good day.
  2. 0:11This morning, the FOMC decided to
  3. 0:13maintain the target rate for the federal
  4. 0:16funds rate at 3 and 3/4 to 4%. In
  5. 0:19support of the Federal Reserve's dual
  6. 0:21mandate,
  7. 0:22economic activity is expanding at a
  8. 0:25strong pace. While uncertainty remains
  9. 0:29owing in part to geopolitical
  10. 0:31developments, domestic spending has been
  11. 0:33resilient,
  12. 0:35productivity growth is strong and
  13. 0:37capital investment robust.
  14. 0:40Job gains have kept pace with the
  15. 0:42workforce and the unemployment rate has
  16. 0:44changed little, but inflation remains
  17. 0:48elevated. The committee believes that
  18. 0:50the accumulation of more information
  19. 0:53will help it determine the policy stance
  20. 0:56appropriate to ensure a timely return of
  21. 1:00inflation to the 2% goal. The committee
  22. 1:03will deliver price stability.
  23. 1:05At each policy meeting, my colleagues
  24. 1:08and I assess the economy by looking out
  25. 1:10the window. It's what we call
  26. 1:12interrogating reality to gauge what's
  27. 1:15really going on. It is not a task that
  28. 1:18has grown easier. So what exactly do we
  29. 1:21observe?
  30. 1:23Economic growth has strengthened.
  31. 1:26The GDP increase in the first half of
  32. 1:29this year was revised up from an earlier
  33. 1:33estimate of 1.8% up to 2.4%.
  34. 1:37And the third quarter appears to have
  35. 1:39brought an even more rapid advance led
  36. 1:41by healthy consumer spending likely
  37. 1:44running above 3% growth. and business
  38. 1:47investment investment likely rising at
  39. 1:51about a double-digit pace. Capital
  40. 1:54expenditures are at a historically high
  41. 1:56share of GDP.
  42. 1:58High-tech investment is leading the
  43. 2:01acceleration, but there's also been a
  44. 2:03broadening in other categories, and
  45. 2:05these trends bear watching. What about
  46. 2:08the jobless rate? The jobless rate is
  47. 2:11lower than a year ago. And payroll
  48. 2:13growth is noticeably above last year's
  49. 2:16pace. The four-week moving average of
  50. 2:19unemployment insurance claims continues
  51. 2:22to run at the lowest level in
  52. 2:24generations.
  53. 2:26So on the employment side of the Fed's
  54. 2:27dual mandate, conditions are quite
  55. 2:30positive.
  56. 2:32And yet Americans of course are still
  57. 2:34dealing with inflation that has been
  58. 2:36running above the committee's objective
  59. 2:39for close to six years. It's our
  60. 2:42responsibility to get inflation down.
  61. 2:45That's the reason the FOMC's discussion
  62. 2:48over the last couple of days focused
  63. 2:50mainly on the price stability side of
  64. 2:52our remitt.
  65. 2:55Since our policy action in September, we
  66. 2:57have started to see some changes in
  67. 3:00financial and credit conditions. They
  68. 3:03have tightened for some businesses and
  69. 3:05households, much as we would expect.
  70. 3:08Market participants are becoming
  71. 3:10somewhat more discerning in their
  72. 3:11capital allocations.
  73. 3:13And while overall financial conditions
  74. 3:15are tighter, I'm unwilling and unable to
  75. 3:19call them tight. But broadly, these
  76. 3:23developments go in the direction of
  77. 3:25achieving a longer, more durable period
  78. 3:28of economic growth and price stability.
  79. 3:32Over the last couple of days, the
  80. 3:33committee had a good discussion of the
  81. 3:36changes in the economic and financial
  82. 3:37landscape that marked this intermedating
  83. 3:40period. We discussed geopolitical
  84. 3:42developments and fast-moving changes in
  85. 3:45technology. We observed but were not
  86. 3:49surprised that financial markets showed
  87. 3:52bouts of volatility and shifting
  88. 3:54correlations.
  89. 3:56So as we widen the frame to survey the
  90. 3:59broad economic and financial picture,
  91. 4:02real activity is clearly pointing in the
  92. 4:04right direction. That's good news. But
  93. 4:07inflation is too high. Energy and
  94. 4:10related prices have moved higher again
  95. 4:12in recent weeks. And our job is to
  96. 4:15ensure that relative price changes in
  97. 4:17some sectors do not broaden out across
  98. 4:21the economy and that inflation
  99. 4:23expectations remain as they are
  100. 4:26anchored.
  101. 4:27While these uncertainties are real,
  102. 4:29there's no lack of clarity in our
  103. 4:31purpose at the Fed.
  104. 4:34Since becoming chairman just five months
  105. 4:36ago, I've been honored to work with FOMC
  106. 4:39policymakers who are unambiguous in
  107. 4:42their commitment to stable prices. We've
  108. 4:45made clear our readiness to act as
  109. 4:47circumstances require and we have shown
  110. 4:50our willingness to act.
  111. 4:53The information we receive over the
  112. 4:55coming period will help us determine
  113. 4:58where we want policy to be. And at every
  114. 5:01turn, good or bad, our job is to get
  115. 5:04monetary policy right. And that's
  116. 5:06exactly what we're doing. Now, with this
  117. 5:09objective in mind, we've decided on a
  118. 5:11change in our FOMC schedule starting
  119. 5:13next fall. We believe eight meetings per
  120. 5:17year is the right number for the FOMC.
  121. 5:20But in 2027, one meeting will focus
  122. 5:23exclusively on broad monetary policy
  123. 5:26strategy with neither a vote on the
  124. 5:28federal funds rate nor a policy
  125. 5:30statement anticipated. The rest will be
  126. 5:34regular FOMC policy setting meetings.
  127. 5:37And I expect that in 2028 we'll have two
  128. 5:40meetings dedicated to discussions of
  129. 5:42strategy and six for setting policy.
  130. 5:46Now what's the reasoning behind this
  131. 5:48change? To me it's quite
  132. 5:49straightforward.
  133. 5:51Getting policy right involves assessing
  134. 5:53near-term developments at timely,
  135. 5:56regular, and informationrich intervals.
  136. 6:00But it's equally important we reserve
  137. 6:03time and space as an intellectually
  138. 6:05diverse group for strategic
  139. 6:08deliberations for thinking a new about
  140. 6:10big questions looking out over longer
  141. 6:13time horizons focusing as I say on the
  142. 6:16left side of the decimal point. I
  143. 6:19believe the setting of the meeting
  144. 6:20schedule and agenda is more than some
  145. 6:23administrative detail. It's an
  146. 6:25institutional choice affecting the
  147. 6:28nature and the quality of our
  148. 6:29deliberations and ultimately the wisdom
  149. 6:32of our decisions.
  150. 6:35It's yet another change to get the
  151. 6:37conduct of monetary policy on the right
  152. 6:39track. I appreciate your attention this
  153. 6:42afternoon. Now my time is yours and I
  154. 6:44welcome your questions.
  155. 6:49>> Thank you. Colby Smith with the New York
  156. 6:50Times. There's been essentially no
  157. 6:53progress toward the 2% inflation target.
  158. 6:55The labor market remains stable as you
  159. 6:58suggested in your opening statement and
  160. 7:00most of your colleagues seem to be on
  161. 7:02board with raising rates in December. So
  162. 7:04why not just raise rates today?
  163. 7:07>> Um so it's a good question. I will say I
  164. 7:10read your stories the last day or two so
  165. 7:11I must admit I sort of saw saw that
  166. 7:13question coming. Um
  167. 7:16uh what I said in my prepared statement
  168. 7:19um was information coming in the coming
  169. 7:21period will help us tell us where we
  170. 7:23want to be but I suspect you want a
  171. 7:26little more than that. So let me let me
  172. 7:27give it a shot. Um ensuring price
  173. 7:30stability colby quashing inflation is
  174. 7:34not about some fixed in individual date
  175. 7:37on a calendar. Same way it's not about
  176. 7:40some isolated data point. If it were
  177. 7:44about those two things, this job would
  178. 7:46be easier and we wouldn't be suffering
  179. 7:48from nearly six years of inflation above
  180. 7:50target. So what's this about? It's about
  181. 7:54ensuring we have clear objectives and
  182. 7:56it's about a monetary policy strategy
  183. 7:59which might sound to your ear and others
  184. 8:01like a change from the last several
  185. 8:03years. So let me step back. Uh, in the 5
  186. 8:07months or so that I've been around,
  187. 8:09we've put in place what I describe as
  188. 8:12new monetary medicine. Well, what's been
  189. 8:15in that package of medicine? First thing
  190. 8:18we did when we showed up with my
  191. 8:20colleagues is we doubled down on the 2%
  192. 8:23inflation target. We said, "We own it.
  193. 8:27We're taking responsibility for it. And
  194. 8:29if you think that we're tolerating some
  195. 8:32inflation target somewhere in the twos,
  196. 8:33let us disabuse you of it." That was the
  197. 8:36first part of this new monetary
  198. 8:38medicine. Second part is we took
  199. 8:40responsibility. No anguish of central
  200. 8:42banking here. No blaming others. It's a
  201. 8:45third thing that we've done. We laid out
  202. 8:47for you and the world our framework. I
  203. 8:50did it in Jackson Hole uh was part of
  204. 8:52the discussion the last couple days is
  205. 8:53the framework that many of my colleagues
  206. 8:55Q2 as well. This is how we think about
  207. 8:58how monetary policy should work. These
  208. 9:01are the transmission mechanisms and this
  209. 9:02is how we're going to deliver. Then what
  210. 9:05do we do? We interrogate reality. We do
  211. 9:07that periodically. That's a very useful
  212. 9:09thing to do. But we don't just talk, we
  213. 9:12act. And so in September when we last
  214. 9:15met, we acted. We removed a dose of
  215. 9:18accommodation.
  216. 9:20So what are the signposts about how this
  217. 9:22new strategy is going? Inflation
  218. 9:24compensation as measured by swaps
  219. 9:26prices, many other measures. Inflation
  220. 9:28compensation is going in the right way.
  221. 9:31Uh inflation expectations. The world is
  222. 9:34quite unsettled.
  223. 9:36Um, if you'd say absent the Fed, what
  224. 9:39would have happened to expectations?
  225. 9:41They might have gone the wrong way.
  226. 9:42They've gone the right way, too. So, I
  227. 9:44feel good about those signposts. The
  228. 9:47period right in front of us is
  229. 9:50information rich. There is a lot that's
  230. 9:52happening uh in the world. My colleagues
  231. 9:55and I are keen to take notice of it. So,
  232. 9:58in this coming period, what do I think
  233. 10:00we're going to be able to do? we're
  234. 10:02going to be able to figure out what's
  235. 10:05the appropriate protocol as part of this
  236. 10:07package that we started deliver five
  237. 10:09months ago to deliver price stability.
  238. 10:12Uh I'm encouraged by the progress we've
  239. 10:14made in a short period of time. But if
  240. 10:16the crux of your question is you haven't
  241. 10:18delivered yet, you haven't achieved
  242. 10:20price stability, you're right about
  243. 10:21that, but we're working on it.
  244. 10:29>> Thank you, Chair Wars. Uh so if I could
  245. 10:32this statement says that the
  246. 10:34accumulation of more information will
  247. 10:35help the committee determine the policy
  248. 10:37stance appropriate to ensure a timely
  249. 10:39return of inflation to the 2% goal. Does
  250. 10:43that mean that the current level of the
  251. 10:44Fed funds rate might already be the
  252. 10:45right one?
  253. 10:49Well, um
  254. 10:51we've got to determine the appropriate
  255. 10:53protocol.
  256. 10:54Um, if you were listening next to me in
  257. 10:58that room the last couple of days, the
  258. 11:01overwhelming consensus, the overwhelming
  259. 11:03judgment is that what we've done in this
  260. 11:07monetary medicine starting to work some,
  261. 11:10but there's no firm conclusions. If we
  262. 11:12had a firm conclusion about the conduct
  263. 11:14of monetary policy, we'd announce it to
  264. 11:17much fanfare today. What we decided to
  265. 11:20do was to Col's question, take stock of
  266. 11:23where we are, evaluate what we're seeing
  267. 11:25out the window, ask ourselves whether
  268. 11:28the period right in front of us is
  269. 11:30likely to provide more clarity on the
  270. 11:32appropriate protocol. My judgment, the
  271. 11:35judgment of my overwhelming number of
  272. 11:36colleagues is that it would.
  273. 11:40>> Steve, please.
  274. 11:45>> Mr. chairman. Um before uh thanks for
  275. 11:47taking our questions. Before the uh the
  276. 11:49meeting, uh several uh members of the
  277. 11:52board and the committee went out and
  278. 11:54told us that it was going to take more
  279. 11:55time and that had a profound effect on
  280. 11:57the outlook for the for the funds rate.
  281. 11:59Were you involved in un in in uh
  282. 12:02discussing that message with them? And
  283. 12:04if you don't mind, I'm sorry, but a
  284. 12:06protocol question. What will be the
  285. 12:08disclosure, public disclosure on the
  286. 12:10meetings where you're not going to have
  287. 12:11a statement? So, two questions. I'm
  288. 12:12sorry.
  289. 12:13>> So, two questions. Did you not hear the
  290. 12:15one question rule?
  291. 12:16>> I I I did, but I thought there was like
  292. 12:18a protocol thing I could do.
  293. 12:19>> I would um that was like a parliamentary
  294. 12:21procedure question you were asking. That
  295. 12:23didn't count. Um I hesitate to indulge
  296. 12:26the second question. I fear what it
  297. 12:28would do. But let's let me see if I can
  298. 12:30do it and not have the slippery slope
  299. 12:32among us. Um your first question was
  300. 12:35about my colleagues. Um I've got 18
  301. 12:38quite independent colleagues. If you
  302. 12:40were inside that room the last couple of
  303. 12:41days, you would uh come to believe that
  304. 12:43to be true. Um, one way to test the
  305. 12:47independence of my colleagues is, I
  306. 12:49don't know if you've heard, Steve, but I
  307. 12:50don't submit a dot. I don't plan on
  308. 12:52submitting a dot, but the 18 of them do
  309. 12:55to suggest somehow that I am um some
  310. 12:59kind of uh all- knowing person sending
  311. 13:02messages out that that's not the
  312. 13:04committee of the FOMC that I know. Um
  313. 13:07these are serious, sober, responsible
  314. 13:09people. We had a serious sober
  315. 13:11discussion. Uh so that's the answer to
  316. 13:13that. On the parliamentary question,
  317. 13:14which doesn't count as a question, I'll
  318. 13:17just say this. Um we've made a decision
  319. 13:20that at that strategy meeting in 27 and
  320. 13:22the two strategy meetings in 28. I do
  321. 13:25not anticipate uh making any policy
  322. 13:27decision, putting out a policy
  323. 13:28statement. But what might we come out
  324. 13:31with? It's not obvious yet. There's more
  325. 13:33news to come on that. Uh the decision on
  326. 13:36the new format for the meetings is
  327. 13:38relatively new. Um it was a robust
  328. 13:42discussion over a couple of meetings of
  329. 13:43how to handle that as we get details of
  330. 13:46that which are still now not until next
  331. 13:48fall. We'll be prepared to share them
  332. 13:49with you
  333. 13:51>> Nicole.
  334. 13:54>> Hi Nicole. Good with Barren. Thanks for
  335. 13:55taking my question. Um, in September you
  336. 13:58mentioned that the Fed has a role in
  337. 13:59sustaining the economic progress
  338. 14:01happening in America right now and in
  339. 14:02the rising opportunities that come with
  340. 14:04it. I'm wondering if you can expand on
  341. 14:06whether you see this as a mandate and
  342. 14:08how you intend to fulfill that mandate.
  343. 14:11>> So the mandate was given to us by
  344. 14:12Congress. The mandate was deliver stable
  345. 14:16prices and deliver full employment all
  346. 14:18in the context of of financial
  347. 14:21stability. Now, they gave us some other
  348. 14:22homework to do on supervision and
  349. 14:24regulation and payments, but I presume
  350. 14:26you're you're talking about monetary
  351. 14:27policy. So, what's the best thing we can
  352. 14:31do in this environment looking at our
  353. 14:33window to deliver on that remitt? Ensure
  354. 14:36stable prices. I mentioned, I think at a
  355. 14:38prior press conference, if you were
  356. 14:40trying to do the most harmed, the least
  357. 14:42welloff among us, you would let the last
  358. 14:45six years of inflation uh above the
  359. 14:48Fed's target, usually well above the
  360. 14:50Fed's target. You'd let that continue.
  361. 14:52So, that's the most important thing we
  362. 14:54can do as we look out the window. And
  363. 14:55that's what we plan to do. You probably
  364. 14:57heard me say this, we will deliver price
  365. 14:59stability. No ifs, ands, or buts, and
  366. 15:01that continues to be the case.
  367. 15:06Mer was
  368. 15:08>> Elanar Mueller was before wanted to ask
  369. 15:10you about the working groups when we can
  370. 15:12expect the reports to come up and if
  371. 15:14there is anything you can preview for us
  372. 15:16whether it's on AI or data or balance
  373. 15:18sheets.
  374. 15:19>> Sure. Um
  375. 15:22these five um task forces are hard at
  376. 15:26work. I have scarcely seen anything that
  377. 15:28would constitute a final report, but I
  378. 15:31have done some periodic check-ins with
  379. 15:33them and I am impressed by the rigor of
  380. 15:36the intellectual discussions, by the
  381. 15:38seriousness of the task that we've given
  382. 15:40them. Um, now some of the questions that
  383. 15:43I ask to kick off the reports, uh, they
  384. 15:46want to answer those and answer a whole
  385. 15:47range of other questions which might go
  386. 15:49to other task forces, but I'm impressed
  387. 15:52by what they're doing. Um, I gave them,
  388. 15:54like I told you, a a year-end deadline.
  389. 15:58I think some, but not all of the groups
  390. 16:00will probably hit their deadline and
  391. 16:02turn their homework in on time. But that
  392. 16:04just begins the process by which we're
  393. 16:06going to be consuming, which is
  394. 16:08intellectually serious work. That's a
  395. 16:11catalyst for us to think a new about
  396. 16:13productivity and jobs and an inflation
  397. 16:15framework and what's the best data to
  398. 16:18help us do our job. How to think about
  399. 16:20the balance sheet task force. Um these
  400. 16:23are huge intellectual investments that I
  401. 16:26think are going to bear fruits in the
  402. 16:28next policy conjuncture um unlikely to
  403. 16:32find their way into this policy
  404. 16:34conjuncture given the the important role
  405. 16:36as consumers of these ideas that my
  406. 16:38colleagues have. But I will have one
  407. 16:41small announcement. Um I previewed this
  408. 16:43when I was at an IMF meeting much to the
  409. 16:46chagrin of some of my colleagues around
  410. 16:48here. On November 16th, uh the
  411. 16:50productivity and jobs task force will be
  412. 16:52doing a field hearing um inviting a
  413. 16:55broad range of people who have strong
  414. 16:57views. What are the implications for
  415. 16:59jobs in the economy near-term,
  416. 17:01medium-term, long term? Is this a
  417. 17:03productivity miracle that's going to
  418. 17:05happen or will it happen slowly? Um, I
  419. 17:08know I for one am keenly interested in
  420. 17:11refining my own views on that question,
  421. 17:13but that task force decided they wanted
  422. 17:15to hear from more people as part of
  423. 17:17their undertaking. Uh, I plan at
  424. 17:20attending. I might have a few words to
  425. 17:22say at the outset of that conference. I
  426. 17:24expect the conference will go three four
  427. 17:26hours. It'll be pretty wonky stuff. I
  428. 17:28don't know how good the material will be
  429. 17:30for the likes of you and your
  430. 17:31colleagues, but it's a purpose to do a
  431. 17:34lot of listening for me to interrogate
  432. 17:36the reality in front of me. What do
  433. 17:39experts in their fields think about
  434. 17:40this? What are the implications for the
  435. 17:43dual mandate that I referenced to your
  436. 17:45colleague? Is this going to make it
  437. 17:47harder or easier for us to achieve price
  438. 17:50stability over the next several years?
  439. 17:52What are the implications for jobs
  440. 17:54medium and long-term, but near-term,
  441. 17:56too? So, we're going to explore those um
  442. 17:58largely in the public realm on November
  443. 18:0116th. I look forward to seeing you
  444. 18:02there.
  445. 18:04>> James Rosen,
  446. 18:06>> thank you so much. Uh thank you, Mr.
  447. 18:08Chairman. James Rosen with Newsmax. You
  448. 18:10spoke of interrogating reality. Since
  449. 18:13reality is a no-show here today, I'm
  450. 18:14going to satisfy myself with
  451. 18:16interrogating you. Um you spoke earlier
  452. 18:18in your remarks here today about how
  453. 18:20your colleagues are serious and sober
  454. 18:22people who are committed to price
  455. 18:24stability. In an event in the Oval
  456. 18:26Office on October 7 of this year,
  457. 18:28President Trump said, and I quote,
  458. 18:29"Kevin is great, but Kevin's one vote
  459. 18:32out of a board with numerous people that
  460. 18:34were put on by Obama and Biden and a
  461. 18:37couple by me. So, you have a board that
  462. 18:39would like to see the country do badly
  463. 18:41in my opinion." Do you agree with those
  464. 18:43comments?
  465. 18:44>> So, James, I appreciate the question.
  466. 18:46I'm not going to be responding to uh to
  467. 18:49quotes from public officials. Um what I
  468. 18:52can tell you is my experience in five
  469. 18:54months here. We just came out of a heck
  470. 18:57of a family fight. Uh serious sober
  471. 19:00discussion. I think we came to uh the
  472. 19:03right policy decision for this moment
  473. 19:06and I'm honored to be here and honored
  474. 19:08to be the chairman of this group.
  475. 19:14>> Chairman Wel Sakapuro with Bloomberg
  476. 19:16News. Um so the economy is strong.
  477. 19:19inflation is well above 2%. You're
  478. 19:22saying inflation expectations are going
  479. 19:24the right way, but surveys show that
  480. 19:26households expect inflation to remain
  481. 19:28above the Fed's uh goal and not just for
  482. 19:30the short term using a hike today aren't
  483. 19:34waiting for more data. I haven't really
  484. 19:36heard the clear arguments as to that
  485. 19:38decision. So do you worry that to with
  486. 19:41today's decision households may not
  487. 19:43believe your pledge to bring down
  488. 19:46inflation clearly and at sufficient
  489. 19:48speed and instead will read this
  490. 19:50decision of holding rates steady as a
  491. 19:52sign that the central bank has in fact a
  492. 19:54soft inflation target.
  493. 19:56>> Yeah. So what I can do is tell you
  494. 19:58there's no soft inflation target.
  495. 20:00There's no implicit inflation target.
  496. 20:03There's a target of price stability and
  497. 20:04it's 2% as measured by PCE. Um, it took
  498. 20:09six years to for inflation to uh have
  499. 20:13the effect on consumers that you
  500. 20:15reference, but I would say this, um,
  501. 20:19when consumers interrogate reality, they
  502. 20:22look outside their window, too. They go
  503. 20:24to the gas station, too, and they see
  504. 20:26that prices are up. I am the not going
  505. 20:29to be the guy who says that oil prices
  506. 20:32haven't gone up, and when they fill up
  507. 20:33their tank, they don't see it. And so
  508. 20:35inflation's gone up in expectations in
  509. 20:38the very near term because they're doing
  510. 20:40what we're doing, interrogating reality.
  511. 20:43But if you look out over the horizon, if
  512. 20:45you look at most, but not all, measures,
  513. 20:48what you see is u households,
  514. 20:52businesses, financial markets, they have
  515. 20:54the confidence that they should have
  516. 20:56that this central bank will deliver
  517. 20:58price stability.
  518. 21:01>> Edward Lawrence
  519. 21:05Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Edward Lawrence
  520. 21:06for Fox Business. Um, so do you see a
  521. 21:08direct line correlation between uh oil
  522. 21:11prices and the inflation we're seeing in
  523. 21:12the United States? And if so, how fast
  524. 21:14could inflation fall or react to falling
  525. 21:16oil prices?
  526. 21:18>> So, I don't want to engage in
  527. 21:19hypotheticals, but I can look out look
  528. 21:21at our window and see what's happened.
  529. 21:23Um there'd been a stable correlation
  530. 21:28between oil prices as they've moved up
  531. 21:30this year generally and interest rates,
  532. 21:34not the interest rates that we control,
  533. 21:36but interest rates set in the market.
  534. 21:38That correlation has been quite strong
  535. 21:41until very recently. We've seen oil
  536. 21:44prices continue to move up largely due
  537. 21:47to geopolitical events. We've seen crack
  538. 21:51spreads between oil and refined products
  539. 21:53continue to stay elevated. But what's
  540. 21:55happened? Interest rates have rolled
  541. 21:58over to the downside. Um
  542. 22:01I not a Wall Street newsletter. I'm just
  543. 22:03telling you when I look out the window
  544. 22:05over the last uh several months, that is
  545. 22:07what we've seen. To the extent that oil
  546. 22:11prices were to move lower, again
  547. 22:14probably due to geopolitical events,
  548. 22:17that's something that we're going to
  549. 22:18have to interrogate. What are the
  550. 22:19effects on the Fed's dual mandate? What
  551. 22:23are the effects on financial market
  552. 22:24prices? And what are we going to do
  553. 22:26about it? But that's a hypothetical. And
  554. 22:28in fact, if we look at financial market
  555. 22:31prices
  556. 22:32um uh futures prices for oil, they've
  557. 22:36moved up over the course of the last
  558. 22:38several weeks. And I can't help but take
  559. 22:39note of that, too.
  560. 22:42>> Claire,
  561. 22:46>> thank you. Cla Jones, Financial Times.
  562. 22:48Um, much of the growth that we're seeing
  563. 22:51in the US economy now and quite a bit of
  564. 22:53the inflation too is coming from the AI
  565. 22:57boom. There's quite a lively debate as
  566. 22:59to whether or not, you know, this is a
  567. 23:02part of the economy that's sensitive to
  568. 23:04interest rates in the same way as say
  569. 23:06housing. I'd love to get your sense of,
  570. 23:10you know, do rate rates need to rise
  571. 23:13more given that so much of the US
  572. 23:14economy now is about AI than it
  573. 23:17otherwise would if say, you know,
  574. 23:19housing was a bigger part of the story.
  575. 23:21Thank you.
  576. 23:21>> Uh, thank you, Claire. So, there was a
  577. 23:24narrative for quite a while, maybe even
  578. 23:27in this room over the course of the last
  579. 23:29several press conferences.
  580. 23:31Well, they're going to raise rates or
  581. 23:33talking about raising rates, but it's
  582. 23:35not going to have any effect on AI
  583. 23:37because the returns that investors are
  584. 23:39expecting are so different. Um, I was
  585. 23:42skeptical of that view. Interest rates
  586. 23:45get in the cracks. Interest rates affect
  587. 23:48directly or indirectly
  588. 23:50um almost everything. And what have we
  589. 23:53seen uh since early September? what
  590. 23:57we've seen inside of the uh technology
  591. 24:01complex
  592. 24:03uh outside of the technology complex
  593. 24:06um whether you pronounce it AI or SI
  594. 24:09Claire is up to you um what have you
  595. 24:12seen interest rates have had an effect
  596. 24:14you see market participants that are
  597. 24:17discriminating
  598. 24:19between the kinds of investments they
  599. 24:21want to make you've seen credit spreads
  600. 24:24for certain assets widen out gap out for
  601. 24:27others you've seen some tightening in
  602. 24:29financial conditions but not
  603. 24:30significantly. So on the thrust of your
  604. 24:33question of
  605. 24:35uh with respect to the new technology
  606. 24:37and this investment surge, do interest
  607. 24:40rates matter? I believe they do and I
  608. 24:42don't believe that they're somehow
  609. 24:43divorced from the rest of the economy.
  610. 24:46Secondly, I'll just say this. Um it is
  611. 24:49convenient to say that the strength of
  612. 24:51the economy is all about this uh new
  613. 24:55technology wave. In fact, if we look at
  614. 24:58the data really including data from the
  615. 25:00last meeting till this, the capex story
  616. 25:04is not just robust, not just strong, but
  617. 25:07it is broadening. And so if you want to
  618. 25:09tell the story somehow that this is
  619. 25:12strength we're seeing only in narrow
  620. 25:14pockets, that's a much harder story to
  621. 25:16tell now than it would have been several
  622. 25:18quarters ago.
  623. 25:20>> Elizabeth Schultzy on the back.
  624. 25:24>> Thanks so much. Elizabeth Schelsey with
  625. 25:26ABC News. As you know, the midterm
  626. 25:28elections are in six days. Did the
  627. 25:29midterms factor into the Fed's decision
  628. 25:31to stay on hold? And if not, how can you
  629. 25:34assure the American public that politics
  630. 25:36were not at play here? So, um, politics
  631. 25:41played no role in the decision. I just
  632. 25:44spent two days with my colleagues, uh,
  633. 25:46upstairs. I didn't hear an utterance
  634. 25:49about politics. I didn't hear a
  635. 25:50reference to, uh, uh, politics,
  636. 25:54elections, what's happening in the next
  637. 25:56week or so. I didn't hear anything about
  638. 25:58it. Um, and I don't believe it had any
  639. 26:02role in the decision, not just for me,
  640. 26:04but my colleagues around the room. But I
  641. 26:07will say it's an informationrich
  642. 26:09interval in the coming period um having
  643. 26:12nothing to do with politics.
  644. 26:16>> Chris Rabber.
  645. 26:19>> Hi. Thank you. Uh Chris Rueer at
  646. 26:21Associated Press. I know you don't like
  647. 26:23the statement of economic projections,
  648. 26:24but uh last month they did uh your
  649. 26:27colleagues pencled in another rate hike
  650. 26:29for this year. And so could you give us
  651. 26:31your sense from this meeting whether you
  652. 26:34still see widespread support for another
  653. 26:36hike this year around the table? Thank
  654. 26:38you.
  655. 26:39>> So the blackout period for them ends I
  656. 26:41think on Friday or at some point over
  657. 26:43the weekend. So they they might they
  658. 26:44might indulge you in in that discussion.
  659. 26:47Um I don't believe in forward guidance
  660. 26:51absent exigent circumstances absent a
  661. 26:54crisis. I have to give that caveat
  662. 26:56because um in the darkest days of the
  663. 26:592008 financial crisis um in part using
  664. 27:04um some literature and thinking from a
  665. 27:06very recent Nobel Prize winner that kind
  666. 27:08of forward guidance is actually quite
  667. 27:10helpful. But in normal ordinary times
  668. 27:12especially times where the underlying
  669. 27:14real economy is this strong I don't
  670. 27:17believe in it. I don't favor it. I also
  671. 27:20don't believe in prejudging meetings.
  672. 27:22Um, a lot of things can happen. Uh, so
  673. 27:25I'm not going to be able to to uh share
  674. 27:28with you my musings about what happens
  675. 27:30when this group gets together uh six
  676. 27:32weeks from now. But my judgment is that
  677. 27:36we might learn a lot and like in my
  678. 27:38response to Col's question um will be I
  679. 27:42think better positioned to determine
  680. 27:45uh the right policy decision and the
  681. 27:48stance of policy.
  682. 27:50Sang Lee.
  683. 27:53>> Hi, my name is Tang Lee from the Korean
  684. 27:55Economic Daily newspaper. I got a
  685. 27:57question as a foreign press. You have
  686. 28:00spoken several times about the
  687. 28:01possibility of the Fed shrinking its
  688. 28:04balance sheet further. If that plan
  689. 28:07moves forward later, how would you avoid
  690. 28:10the disrupting foreign official holders
  691. 28:12of treasuries or dollar funding markets
  692. 28:14abroad like South Korea and Japan?
  693. 28:17>> So, thank you for your question. Um,
  694. 28:20first off, I would say I pay probably
  695. 28:23more attention to the Korean economy
  696. 28:25than you might think because when I'm
  697. 28:27looking at um, uh, the feed stocks
  698. 28:30effectively for this new surge in
  699. 28:32technology, a lot of it's coming from
  700. 28:34Japan and Korea, some from Singapore.
  701. 28:37So, I'm particularly interested in in
  702. 28:40what's happening in the Korean economy,
  703. 28:41usually because it's telling me what's
  704. 28:43what's on planes and ships coming this
  705. 28:45way. Um, secondly, I should say that uh
  706. 28:48your new uh central bank governor is
  707. 28:50someone I've known for 20 years uh and
  708. 28:53is a very talented guy and a good
  709. 28:55friend. So, I'm glad he's in that post.
  710. 28:58Um he and I met actually about uh 20
  711. 29:02years ago amid the global financial
  712. 29:04crisis as it would come to be known and
  713. 29:07I remember this is a generation ago
  714. 29:09discussions with him about the use of
  715. 29:11the balance sheet in exigent
  716. 29:13circumstances like we had then at this
  717. 29:16point the balance sheet is uh solely
  718. 29:19within the four walls of the balance
  719. 29:21sheet task force now I have checked in
  720. 29:23with them full disclosure they're
  721. 29:25working away and comparing their best
  722. 29:27thoughts
  723. 29:28Um, and I think the conclusions they
  724. 29:30come to, the recommendations they come
  725. 29:32to will be fed into the FOMC probably
  726. 29:36early in the first quarter, but don't
  727. 29:38hold me exactly to that timing. And um,
  728. 29:41and uh, if we decide to make changes in
  729. 29:44the balance sheet, it'll be after a
  730. 29:47serious consideration of their proposals
  731. 29:49and their recommendations. I think it is
  732. 29:52unlikely to have any material effect on
  733. 29:54this policy conjuncture, but it's a
  734. 29:57question we should get to the bottom to
  735. 29:58and I look forward to doing it with the
  736. 30:00help of the outside task force.
  737. 30:02>> Nick,
  738. 30:08>> Nick Tarosa of the Wall Street Journal.
  739. 30:10Chairman Wars, I I want to follow up on
  740. 30:12your answer to Claire's question. As the
  741. 30:14AI investment boom becomes more
  742. 30:16dependent on external financing, does
  743. 30:19that make aggregate demand more
  744. 30:22sensitive to interest rates than it was
  745. 30:25before? And and related to that, when
  746. 30:27when you removed a dose of accommodation
  747. 30:30last month, did you see about what you
  748. 30:32bargain for?
  749. 30:33>> So you gave me two questions and neither
  750. 30:35of them were ahead of any sort of
  751. 30:37parliamentary out. So you're giving me
  752. 30:39the opportunity to choose choose choose
  753. 30:41which of those. Fair enough. Um um so
  754. 30:46I'll answer your second question. Um
  755. 30:49when we removed a dose of accommodation
  756. 30:52I don't know six weeks ago uh we don't
  757. 30:55have perfect s foresight on what
  758. 30:57financial markets are going to do with
  759. 30:58it but broadly I would say the effects
  760. 31:02on financial markets on financial market
  761. 31:04conditions broadly were with consistent
  762. 31:07with my expectations.
  763. 31:10Uh Howard Schneider
  764. 31:14Howard Schneider with Reuters. Thank
  765. 31:15you, Chairman Worsh. I'm I'm going to
  766. 31:17take Nick's first question then.
  767. 31:18>> Okay. Give it to me again. I don't
  768. 31:20remember.
  769. 31:20>> No. Well, it's about aggregate demand
  770. 31:22and the components of inflation. Uh a
  771. 31:25lot of your colleagues have said they
  772. 31:26felt the investment boom in AI was now
  773. 31:28adding a strong demand component to
  774. 31:31inflation and this was a handoff from
  775. 31:33the supply side. Uh concerns that might
  776. 31:35be expected to fade over time. How much
  777. 31:38do you think demand is adding to
  778. 31:40inflation right now? Uh and how
  779. 31:42sensitive will that be to uh Fed Fed
  780. 31:45control?
  781. 31:46>> Good, good, good, good, good pickup of
  782. 31:48that. Good team effort. Um
  783. 31:51so, so I'd say this. Um the only things
  784. 31:55we really know in economics and supply
  785. 31:57and demand cross are measures of the
  786. 32:00size and the shape of the aggregate
  787. 32:03demand curve is imperfect.
  788. 32:05Broadly, what I heard in the room the
  789. 32:07last couple of days is consistent with
  790. 32:08my own views, which is the economy is
  791. 32:11strong. I didn't try to sugarcoat that
  792. 32:13in the first part of my statement. The
  793. 32:16economy has been marked up for the first
  794. 32:18three quarters. The economy is pointing
  795. 32:20in the right direction. Is the economy
  796. 32:22running too hot? Is the economy running
  797. 32:26too strong? Um, that isn't the judgment
  798. 32:29of most of my colleagues. Part of it is
  799. 32:32we never know what potential growth
  800. 32:34really is. Howard um my judgment is we
  801. 32:37have seen an improvement in
  802. 32:39productivity.
  803. 32:41We can't measure it precisely. I think
  804. 32:43most of that change in productivity
  805. 32:45preedes everything we're talking about
  806. 32:48um super intelligence but productivity
  807. 32:51has been moving higher in the economy
  808. 32:53however imperfectly measured I think for
  809. 32:56a couple of years and so economic growth
  810. 32:59is higher but that doesn't tell me that
  811. 33:01economic growth is somehow causing
  812. 33:03inflation and making our job harder but
  813. 33:07we'll be continuing to look at those
  814. 33:08issues uh the goal in my view and you've
  815. 33:11heard me say this before isn't to throw
  816. 33:14sand in the gears of the economy and
  817. 33:16throw people out of work. I don't think
  818. 33:18we have to do that. The dominant means
  819. 33:20in which this policy is going to be put
  820. 33:22into practice is we are tightening
  821. 33:24financial conditions. They've tightened
  822. 33:26a bit since we uh met last time. That
  823. 33:30isn't something that we're uncomfortable
  824. 33:31with. That tells me that policy is
  825. 33:33working and I think we can do that and
  826. 33:35make the economy more durable, have it
  827. 33:38last longer, and still achieve stable
  828. 33:41prices. Okay, we'll go to Victoria for
  829. 33:43the last question.
  830. 33:47>> Hi, Chair Walsh. Um, Victoria Guido with
  831. 33:50Politico. I wanted to ask next week is
  832. 33:52uh a hearing at the White House on Lisa
  833. 33:55Cook's future and allegations that have
  834. 33:57been made against her. Are you
  835. 33:59personally or the Fed as an institution
  836. 34:01going to be involved at all in those
  837. 34:02proceedings? Uh,
  838. 34:04>> not to my knowledge.
  839. 34:07>> Thank you. Thank you guys.

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