Fireside Chat Ep. 149 — Why "Color-Blind" Is Actually "Anti-Racist" | Fireside Chat — Transcript
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- 0:00hi everybody i'm dennis prager and
- 0:02welcome to the fireside chat
- 0:04otto's doing well as you can see oh
- 0:07you're doing well
- 0:09did he lift his eye even i keep linked
- 0:15it's a special dog you know why otto
- 0:18actually makes us relaxed he he is a
- 0:22giver of peace we should rename him
- 0:26or give him a like a middle name
- 0:34giver of peace wouldn't that be nice
- 0:40okay anyway welcome to the fireside chat
- 0:42i offer some thoughts
- 0:44and then i take your questions
- 0:49it's very spontaneous which has great
- 0:52advantages
- 0:53risks obviously but great advantages
- 0:56because it's very real i love
- 0:58real that's real to me is
- 1:02is a turn on i just i love real okay
- 1:06anyway so much for that i want to talk
- 1:09to you
- 1:09about a word that a lot of people
- 1:13misuse a lot of people even now
- 1:15amazingly attack
- 1:18and even those who believe in it
- 1:22don't often know how to define it and
- 1:24that is colorblind
- 1:26so i grew up with the ideal of being
- 1:30colorblind that was
- 1:32that was the racial ideal to be
- 1:34colorblind
- 1:36that the thing you notice about a person
- 1:38obviously you notice and i'm going to
- 1:39explain this of course you notice the
- 1:41color you notice a lot of things about a
- 1:42person
- 1:43when you see them but the idea
- 1:46is that it doesn't matter that's what
- 1:48colorblind means
- 1:50it doesn't matter
- 1:53now we're told that it should matter
- 1:56which is exactly what i was taught my
- 1:59whole life
- 2:00and i grew up a liberal was racist
- 2:04to the extent that color matters is the
- 2:06extent that you're a racist
- 2:08which is i i 100 still subscribe to
- 2:12if color matters to you you're a racist
- 2:15i don't care if you're black i don't
- 2:16care if you're white
- 2:17if color matters you
- 2:21are the racist i will not
- 2:24redefine myself and not not even me i
- 2:27will not
- 2:28redefine what is good
- 2:31to assimilate into the current thinking
- 2:34which is bad this is a true example of
- 2:38the biblical phrase in in hosea
- 2:41of those who call woe unto those who
- 2:43call good evil and evil good
- 2:45that we are living in that age
- 2:47colorblind is good thinking color is
- 2:50important is bad
- 2:52and now we're told think colorblind is
- 2:55bad
- 2:56and taking color as important as if it
- 2:59defines
- 2:59anything about you so i'll give you a
- 3:03couple of examples
- 3:05uh so you will understand truly
- 3:07understand what color blind
- 3:09should mean and really has always meant
- 3:13so people who who attack us
- 3:18for saying colorblind is good say
- 3:22you're you're fooling yourself no
- 3:23there's no such thing as colorblind you
- 3:25don't see a person's color
- 3:28but that's not what colorblind
- 3:29colorblind doesn't mean you don't see a
- 3:31person's color
- 3:32the only person who doesn't see a
- 3:33person's color is a blind person
- 3:36but if you have eyes you see a person's
- 3:38color
- 3:39but all right to the extent that it's
- 3:42not an issue look at me
- 3:43what do you see see glasses okay
- 3:47are you are you glasses blind no you're
- 3:49not glasses blind you see my glasses
- 3:52see white hair are you white hair blind
- 3:56no you see my white hair but it doesn't
- 3:58mean anything
- 4:00that's the whole point that's the ideal
- 4:03of colorblind
- 4:04that the color of your skin is
- 4:07i see it i'm not blind literally
- 4:11to the color of your skin but it doesn't
- 4:14matter
- 4:15that's the issue my color hair doesn't
- 4:17matter to you
- 4:18my wearing glasses doesn't matter to you
- 4:22my color skin shouldn't matter to you
- 4:24that's the whole point
- 4:26but the left which whose moral compass
- 4:29is always broken
- 4:31north is always south and south is
- 4:32always north
- 4:35is teaching us that oh that's really
- 4:37important
- 4:38but why why is skin color more important
- 4:41than hair color
- 4:43i i never got an answer to that it's
- 4:46just
- 4:47it's just something you're born with
- 4:49it's a physical property so what
- 4:53that's what colorblind means yes we see
- 4:56it but we see
- 4:56many things the question is whether we
- 4:59believe it's intrinsically important
- 5:01what do i know about you if you're black
- 5:03let's think about that what do i know
- 5:06i meet a black person in a restaurant
- 5:08what do i know about that person
- 5:10knowing that the person's black the
- 5:12answer is nothing
- 5:15the person may have moved here from
- 5:17africa
- 5:1920 years ago 10 years ago five years ago
- 5:22have zero relationship to slavery in
- 5:24america
- 5:25has has nothing in common in that regard
- 5:28with an american black
- 5:30who came here whose ancestors came here
- 5:32on slave ships correct
- 5:34so i know i know nothing unless i ask
- 5:36you what is your ancestry
- 5:39what if it's a a black tourist from the
- 5:41caribbean
- 5:42visiting on vacation what
- 5:46what do i know about you i know nothing
- 5:48i would have to ask you questions
- 5:49what do you know about me seeing my
- 5:51color white nothing
- 5:53do you know i'm jewish you don't know
- 5:55i'm jewish
- 5:56so i have a very different background
- 5:59than
- 6:00a white episcopalian uh in in north
- 6:02dakota
- 6:03correct so so it's an absurdity all
- 6:06whites have nothing in common
- 6:08and all blacks have nothing in common
- 6:10unless they have something in common
- 6:13that is in addition to
- 6:16their color so
- 6:19why is it important if i know you're
- 6:22white or black do i know you're kind
- 6:25do i know you're mean do i know you're
- 6:27honest do i know you're a crook
- 6:30do i know you treat your family nicely
- 6:31do i know you have a family
- 6:33i know nothing i know nothing about you
- 6:36so why is it significant
- 6:37if i know nothing about you how
- 6:39significant can it be
- 6:42i know as much about you if i know your
- 6:44skin color as i know about you
- 6:46by knowing whether you wear glasses or
- 6:49not in fact i know more about you if you
- 6:51wear glasses
- 6:52i know you need glasses
- 6:55so at least i know that one fact
- 7:00this is such common sense and decency
- 7:03wrapped in one
- 7:04the leftist view the back black lives
- 7:07matter
- 7:08organization's view is racist and and
- 7:11vile
- 7:12and stupid because we know nothing about
- 7:15you
- 7:17what does a black conservative and a
- 7:19black leftist have in common
- 7:21nothing what do a white conservative and
- 7:24a white leftist have in common
- 7:26nothing what does a black conservative
- 7:29and a white conservative have in common
- 7:31everything what does a white christian
- 7:34and a black christian have in common
- 7:36everything when i speak at churches and
- 7:38i see black
- 7:39i speak off of the pastors groups there
- 7:41are black pastors and white pastors they
- 7:43have so much more in common
- 7:44than they do with people who have no
- 7:46affiliation with their religion
- 7:48outside of their race or inside their
- 7:50race i should say
- 7:54this is what i mean this is when i say
- 7:56college makes you stupid
- 7:58i don't mean that as a put down it is a
- 8:01put down but i don't mean it as a put
- 8:02down i mean it is a fact
- 8:04it teaches you that this is important so
- 8:06tell me
- 8:07one thing you know when you know a
- 8:09person's color
- 8:11what do you know about them of any
- 8:13significance
- 8:14or even insignificance nothing
- 8:18so how important could it be it isn't
- 8:23now do you know what colorblind means
- 8:26okay
- 8:27time for uh for our video question
- 8:31and other questions from you around the
- 8:33world all right here we go
- 8:34take it away hi dennis prager my name is
- 8:37ethan lewis
- 8:38and i'm from new zealand my question is
- 8:41how far left
- 8:43is the right willing to go we're seeing
- 8:46the right support things such as
- 8:47corporate welfare
- 8:48social security so how far left are we
- 8:52really willing to go
- 8:54you my friend are a thinker
- 8:58that ethan congratulations to you that
- 9:01that's a very thoughtful question
- 9:03trying to get to the opening questions
- 9:05here here we go okay
- 9:07that is a how far left is the right
- 9:09willing to go is a
- 9:10very very serious question
- 9:15so the answer is that a conservative
- 9:19wishes by definition to conserve
- 9:21obviously conserve the best
- 9:24an american conservative wants to
- 9:26conserve
- 9:27the one of the unique literally unique
- 9:31principles of the american founding
- 9:33america is the only country founded on
- 9:35the principle of limited government
- 9:39that's the essence or an essence maybe
- 9:42the essence
- 9:44may be an essence of conservatism
- 9:47limited government
- 9:48as i put it many years ago the bigger
- 9:50the government the smaller the citizen
- 9:53that's the way it works the american
- 9:56founding was you i
- 10:00every one of us as an individual is of
- 10:04of infinite significance but we become
- 10:07less significant the more the government
- 10:10controls our lives i mean that that's
- 10:13definitional
- 10:16and when you get to the ultimate
- 10:17totalitarian state like north korea
- 10:20or communist china under mao in
- 10:22particular
- 10:23the the individual was nothing they
- 10:26would
- 10:26they were to dress the same they didn't
- 10:28they were all comrade they were in mr or
- 10:31mrs
- 10:32or ms or anything like that it was a
- 10:35blending of everyone this is what the
- 10:36left has always wanted to do
- 10:38it hates individuality they say it we
- 10:40hate individualism they think it is a
- 10:42corrupt
- 10:43idea of of the american system it is
- 10:46it is the most elevating idea you
- 10:50the individual you are infinitely
- 10:51precious
- 10:54you are the are the
- 10:57pilot of your life you fly your
- 11:01airplane you you're the captain of your
- 11:04ship
- 11:06and if you if you steer your ship
- 11:10onto rocks then
- 11:13your ship will sink hopefully you will
- 11:16survive and
- 11:17you'll perhaps build another ship and
- 11:19one day
- 11:21command another ship having learned how
- 11:22to avoid those rocks
- 11:24that's the way it works but if you want
- 11:27a life where
- 11:28you can't sink your ship
- 11:31then you're on the left that's one of
- 11:34the appeals of the left i can't sink
- 11:37people are afraid of sinking i'm using a
- 11:40metaphor i don't mean drowning i mean
- 11:42just sinking
- 11:45people fear what being the captain of
- 11:48their own
- 11:48own ship is like it's a lot of
- 11:50responsibility to be the captain of your
- 11:52own ship
- 11:53and it's a lot more fun or a lot seems
- 11:56to be a lot more fun to be taken care of
- 11:59and not be have
- 12:00have someone else be the captain of my
- 12:02ship
- 12:04so the right in america has
- 12:08given up in many many ways the whole
- 12:12idea
- 12:13ideal of the limited government
- 12:16because the forces of the left have been
- 12:18so powerful especially since franklin
- 12:20roosevelt
- 12:22the government will take care of you the
- 12:23government will take care of you will
- 12:25spend more on you take care of you take
- 12:27care of you take care of you
- 12:30because most people don't want to be the
- 12:32captains of their ship
- 12:35that's that's a tragedy that's by the
- 12:37way it's a much
- 12:38much richer life my ship has been
- 12:41grounded
- 12:42in my lifetime and i and i got off the
- 12:45ship
- 12:45built a new ship or repaired that ship
- 12:49and then uh went sailing again
- 12:52this is this is the metaphor of life
- 12:56it's like when people tell me oh uh
- 12:59i don't uh i uh my parents were divorced
- 13:02i don't want to get married
- 13:03or i was divorced i don't want to
- 13:05remarry
- 13:06so i always ask them if your parents had
- 13:08a car crash would you drive a car
- 13:12why isn't a divorce regarded like a car
- 13:14crash
- 13:16once most people after a car crash drive
- 13:19again
- 13:20if your marriage crashed why wouldn't
- 13:22you marry again if
- 13:24especially and if your parents marriage
- 13:25crashed
- 13:27it's the people say that because they
- 13:29expect life to have no crashes
- 13:32but a crash-free life is i i is a
- 13:36terrible life
- 13:38everything okay otto
- 13:41you know what i think when he heard
- 13:43parents divorce he got a little scared
- 13:47it's very sensitive mommy and i are
- 13:50doing fine
- 13:51okadoke
- 13:55that's that is what the right has
- 13:58forgotten and so they
- 14:02give in more to the left until we have
- 14:05you know more and more government
- 14:07control and taking care of people's
- 14:09lives
- 14:11you know the the people on the left say
- 14:13we'll uh we'll pay your student loan
- 14:15so people who have paid their student
- 14:17loans at great
- 14:18at great difficulty and sacrifice say
- 14:21wait a minute why am i being penalized
- 14:23i paid the loan and now the ones who
- 14:26never paid the loan
- 14:27but it doesn't matter we'll just give
- 14:31you more and more so that we get more
- 14:32and more of your votes
- 14:34the buying of votes is a moral problem
- 14:36anyway your question
- 14:38is apropos let me give a generalized
- 14:41answer
- 14:42the conservatives should conserve the
- 14:44ideal
- 14:46that the bigger the government the
- 14:47smaller the citizen
- 14:49all right emily 13 years old michigan
- 14:53why does the left only focus on the bad
- 14:54things america didn't ignore all the
- 14:56good things i can't understand it
- 14:57because they're ingrates
- 15:00every leftist is an ingrate by
- 15:01definition because if you're grateful
- 15:04uh you you can't you can be a liberal
- 15:05you could be a conservative but you
- 15:07can't be a leftist
- 15:09not only that it is it is truly uh
- 15:12intellectually
- 15:13impoverished to to preoccupy oneself
- 15:17with america's racial flaws
- 15:20uh like slavery
- 15:24every nation in the history of the world
- 15:26had slavery
- 15:27every in africa uh in
- 15:31uh in the americas among the native
- 15:33peoples
- 15:35uh in in of course in europe
- 15:38massive slavery in the arab slash
- 15:41muslim worlds everyone
- 15:45so the only intelligent question is who
- 15:48got rid of slavery
- 15:49not who had it
- 15:53and the answer is britain and america
- 15:57and it was christians this is a jew
- 15:58telling you that
- 16:00it's not i don't have no acts to grind
- 16:01here
- 16:03not that a christian would have an axe
- 16:04to grind necessarily they're just
- 16:06telling you the truth
- 16:08a lot of christians supported slavery
- 16:10and it's a shame they did
- 16:11but they didn't make them any different
- 16:13from anybody else but what made
- 16:15them different was that they abolished
- 16:17it
- 16:20america has made the freest country for
- 16:21the most people in the in the history of
- 16:23the world
- 16:26you're very lucky if you're an american
- 16:28of any color
- 16:32carlos 27 buenos aires argentina hi
- 16:34dennis i hope you are doing well
- 16:37i am my country isn't that's my standard
- 16:39answer to how are you
- 16:41i'm fine my country isn't i would love
- 16:43to hear your thoughts on a difficult
- 16:45issue
- 16:45i have lived in my home country
- 16:48argentina my whole life
- 16:50i love my country which is a good thing
- 16:52people should love their country
- 16:54but it is becoming harder and harder to
- 16:56live here due to the economic crisis
- 16:57that has lasted for many years
- 16:59many people i know have left to find
- 17:01better lives and opportunities in north
- 17:03america and europe i believe it
- 17:04argentinians are very successful around
- 17:06the world
- 17:08i've been to argentina a number of times
- 17:09i lectured there
- 17:11and i know many argentinians abroad
- 17:16problem in argentina like much of latin
- 17:18america's corruption
- 17:20not natural abilities
- 17:24and not natural resources
- 17:28very rich in both but i don't feel like
- 17:32i have any future here
- 17:33i want to stay here part of me wants to
- 17:35stay here and help my country but i
- 17:36don't feel like i have any future here
- 17:37what is your advice for me
- 17:39and other people in similar countries in
- 17:42similar situations
- 17:44muchas gracias well
- 17:47in advance danada so
- 17:51this is a very tough question
- 17:56see if if your country
- 18:00were suffering economically because
- 18:04of some external
- 18:07tragedy a meteor hit buenos aires and
- 18:11crushed the economy of the capital city
- 18:13just using the most
- 18:14external example i could think of
- 18:18that's one thing but if your country
- 18:22has a tremendous amount of corruption
- 18:24which is eating away at a country that
- 18:26could be quite wealthy
- 18:28and free
- 18:31well you could say look i'll i will stay
- 18:33here the rest of my life and fight for
- 18:35my country and against the corruption
- 18:38on the other hand you say you know i
- 18:39have one life to live
- 18:41as much as i love my country i want to
- 18:44live where i have opportunity
- 18:47both arguments are very powerful
- 18:51my heart goes out to you i think a lot
- 18:53of americans are going to start if
- 18:56if the left takes over the congress and
- 18:58presidency of the united states
- 19:00a lot of americans are going to have to
- 19:02start thinking that way too
- 19:03they love america but they're watching
- 19:06it
- 19:07grinded down into something
- 19:10unrecognizable
- 19:13is it these are uh
- 19:17these are very terrible issues and there
- 19:19is no there is no
- 19:21perfect answer so
- 19:24i'm only only making your question
- 19:26harder
- 19:28i have done absolutely nothing to help
- 19:30you except that i honor whichever
- 19:32whichever decision you make i honor
- 19:37maybe you leave and uh and if things get
- 19:39better in argentina maybe
- 19:41maybe the the brain drain in argentina
- 19:44will awaken people
- 19:46back home to policies that are hurting
- 19:49the country
- 19:50i just don't know but it's a very valid
- 19:54question
- 19:56tyler 27 boston massachusetts in a
- 19:59society that does not value the truth
- 20:02how do you win any debates
- 20:05when i have a debated people on the
- 20:07radio on my radio show
- 20:10or in public debates there are a few
- 20:13public debates that i have actually on
- 20:15on youtube i
- 20:19realize number one i'm not there
- 20:22to convince the person that i'm arguing
- 20:26with
- 20:26or debating with i never have in my mind
- 20:30will i change their mind it almost never
- 20:33happens
- 20:34the reason i debate is for the
- 20:36audience's sake
- 20:39i can change minds of the listeners of
- 20:42some listeners
- 20:44and i can give the answers to arguments
- 20:47for those who already agree with me
- 20:49which is just as important
- 20:54helping those who agree with you
- 20:56formulate the ideas properly and clearly
- 20:59is as important as trying to
- 21:03bring people over to your side
- 21:06so you have to debate but you have to
- 21:08know how to do it well
- 21:10calmly is always good just and my other
- 21:14and my motto that i adopted in the
- 21:15beginning of my radio career
- 21:17i prefer clarity to agreement
- 21:20so instead of trying to have the person
- 21:24agree with me
- 21:25all i try to do is say let me make clear
- 21:29where we differ well what do you say
- 21:32otto
- 21:34a rare to he is spunky today
- 21:38this is a rare treat for you folks
- 21:40normally he just lies there
- 21:43he's looking for a more comfortable spot
- 21:45than his bed this is a
- 21:46famous auto position all right anyway
- 21:49you all know that otto is
- 21:51uh is doing well thank god so
- 21:54you need to clarify where you differ
- 21:57that helps
- 21:58the two of you and it helps anybody
- 22:01listening
- 22:02so don't give up there are many people
- 22:05who don't value truth
- 22:06they value emotion and feeling
- 22:11if they value truth they would tell the
- 22:13true meaning of the word colorblind
- 22:15which is what i began
- 22:16the uh the fireside chat with what's our
- 22:18timing there megan
- 22:22well good we got time for more great lee
- 22:2652 earhard minnesota dear dennis you've
- 22:29probably been asked about this before
- 22:31but i still run into apologists who are
- 22:33democrats
- 22:34they say they are democrats not
- 22:36republican
- 22:37because years ago the two parties
- 22:39switched philosophy
- 22:41and now republicans are now the racist
- 22:43party
- 22:44we know it's hokum can you give a quick
- 22:47answer to them
- 22:48and and so on thank you
- 22:52this this notion that people are
- 22:54republicans in order to be racist
- 22:58is is a tactic of the left it has it's
- 23:01it's not an issue of truth
- 23:04i truly loathe racism i think i am
- 23:06convinced i loathe it much more than
- 23:07people on the left
- 23:09that's why race doesn't matter to me
- 23:12among other
- 23:14factors the vast majority of people who
- 23:18are republican are republican because
- 23:20they believe in limited government
- 23:22not because of racism
- 23:26i'll tell you an interesting thing when
- 23:28i am at
- 23:29uh events where the audience is
- 23:32republican
- 23:34and uh they're they're black members of
- 23:37the audience
- 23:38you know and they come to the the
- 23:41pre-speech
- 23:43meet and greet and they'll have hors
- 23:45d'oeuvres with uh with other
- 23:47people who have paid to go to the meet
- 23:48and greet if you
- 23:50are a black and you want to be loved
- 23:54go to a republican meeting
- 23:59they will you will get more love there
- 24:02than anywhere outside of your family and
- 24:04in fact if you went to a republican
- 24:05meeting you probably don't get much love
- 24:06from your family
- 24:09but i mean it quite sincerely i
- 24:13try it out go as a black to a republican
- 24:16a meeting
- 24:17and see how people react and you know
- 24:20this notion that republicans are racist
- 24:23is a lie it's just a lie
- 24:25are there racists to republicans it
- 24:28means nothing
- 24:29they're anti-semite to republicans but
- 24:31i'm a jew feels perfectly comfortable i
- 24:33don't believe people
- 24:34are republican to be anti-semitic but
- 24:36there are anti-semites they're
- 24:37anti-semite they're more anti-semites on
- 24:39the left
- 24:41than there are on the right so would i
- 24:44uh
- 24:45would i uh say that every one of you is
- 24:47a democrat
- 24:48is is there because you're an
- 24:49anti-semite of course not
- 24:54gary 51 rancho palos verdes california
- 24:57today i learned a new term
- 24:58white silence the belief that white
- 25:00people who don't post their support of
- 25:02black lives matter
- 25:03on social media are not worthy of
- 25:05anyone's attention what are your
- 25:06thoughts on this dennis i hadn't heard
- 25:08about that
- 25:09this is pure totalitarianism you if you
- 25:12don't support us you're evil
- 25:14that's really something uh but go to the
- 25:18black lives matter page where it shows
- 25:20its beliefs
- 25:21tell me you could support it one of the
- 25:24founders said she was marxist
- 25:25she was trained as a marxist how could i
- 25:27support an organization
- 25:29that that is in essence totalitarian all
- 25:32marxist organizations are totalitarian
- 25:34black white non-non non-race-based
- 25:38this is that whole idea you must say you
- 25:42support me
- 25:44you know it's fascinating i'm a jew if
- 25:47if you i am not demanding that every
- 25:50non-jew
- 25:51announce i support jews
- 25:55i mean the idea is preposterous
- 25:58as a jew all i demand i'm using being a
- 26:01jew because i'm in a minority
- 26:03so all i with a very strong history of
- 26:06persecution
- 26:08so all all i'm asking is don't hurt me
- 26:11i'm not asking you to love me
- 26:14this is a very interesting subject unto
- 26:16itself
- 26:17uh minorities or majorities should not
- 26:20demand that others love them
- 26:23you know i i love individuals i don't
- 26:25love groups
- 26:26okay i don't love any group i love
- 26:29good people the only group i care of is
- 26:32the decent and the indecent
- 26:35that was viktor frankl a jew who went
- 26:36through the holocaust his wife was
- 26:38murdered
- 26:39relatives were murdered it's amazing he
- 26:42survived the major psychoanalyst
- 26:44he wrote the book man search for meaning
- 26:46the book after the bible that most
- 26:48influenced me
- 26:50he was asked after the war after all all
- 26:53the
- 26:54beyond belief horrors he had witnessed
- 26:57so uh dr frankly who was a psychoanalyst
- 27:01dr frankel it's in his book it's it
- 27:03changed my life
- 27:05said do you do you hate the german race
- 27:08and his answer was there's only one
- 27:10there are only two races
- 27:12the race of the decent and the race of
- 27:15the indecent
- 27:17that's the way i divide the world that
- 27:20is the way
- 27:21everyone decent should divide the world
- 27:26so it's a good idea to end on that's
- 27:29what matters that's all
- 27:32that matters not color
- 27:35i do not support a group based on color
- 27:39i group i support or or religion or
- 27:43anything else
- 27:45or nationality i support all good people
- 27:50of any color i don't know why that's not
- 27:52the best answer for everybody
- 27:55okay i'm dennis prager thanks for being
- 27:57with me
- 27:59thank you for watching if you'd like to
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