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Ferment this! How to make probiotic kimchi with butternut squash (easy & low waste) — Transcript

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  1. 0:00today we're going to be making a pretty
  2. 0:01simple very easy straightforward
  3. 0:03butternut squash kimchi it's a low waist
  4. 0:05and that we're going to be using the
  5. 0:06entire vegetable but it's a very simple
  6. 0:09quick um probiotic filled kimchi lots of
  7. 0:11good microbes for the guts amazing
  8. 0:13amazing all right so I'm going to peel
  9. 0:15the skin so the Skins we're not going to
  10. 0:17use yeah we're not going to use that so
  11. 0:18you could probably just compost that
  12. 0:20obviously butter and squash skin is
  13. 0:21edible however I think you know when
  14. 0:23fermenting it um you're going to want to
  15. 0:25remove that just for ease okay cool tell
  16. 0:27us a bit about like how you got into
  17. 0:30kimchi making what is kimchi how does
  18. 0:32that differ from like a sour CRA or a
  19. 0:35pickle sure very good question so
  20. 0:36ultimately the kind of microbial process
  21. 0:39of fermentation is very similar it's
  22. 0:41still lacto fermentation so essentially
  23. 0:43salt creates an environment in which um
  24. 0:45lacto basilis so essentially lactic acid
  25. 0:47is created which safely preserves
  26. 0:49vegetables for long-term preservation
  27. 0:51gotta kimchi is a very traditional
  28. 0:53Korean ferment um so probably if you've
  29. 0:54been to any Korean restaurant you'll
  30. 0:56find it there you can get at most
  31. 0:57grocery stores now what you'll quickly
  32. 0:58learn when you learn about how to how
  33. 1:00how to make kimchi and kind of what's
  34. 1:02happening is you can pretty much kimchi
  35. 1:03anything just skinned it here I'm
  36. 1:06assuming we don't need the top leave
  37. 1:08that here and we're just going to use
  38. 1:10the coarse side of a Bo it's going to
  39. 1:12box grad it okay and this is going to go
  40. 1:14into a bowl and this is the bowl that
  41. 1:16we've got here in the doctor's kitchen
  42. 1:18we do have some glass ones but I know
  43. 1:20there's a bit of controversy around
  44. 1:21whether you should be using metal versus
  45. 1:23glass yeah often times you'll hear with
  46. 1:25fermentation and that's true from
  47. 1:26kombucha to sourkraut is that you should
  48. 1:28avoid metal my personal opinion is that
  49. 1:31in preparation in process you can use
  50. 1:33metal okay right I think you know
  51. 1:35there's potential dangers with long-term
  52. 1:37exposure in terms of you know potential
  53. 1:39chemical reactions but in my time making
  54. 1:42ferments in my home kitchen I've never
  55. 1:44had issues with those okay I would say
  56. 1:46if you're doing it commercially maybe
  57. 1:47avoid it you said something earlier
  58. 1:49about like the microbes find way the
  59. 1:51fact that they can divide so quickly and
  60. 1:53like they're super resilient they can
  61. 1:55evolve fermentation often really scares
  62. 1:57people right you know you're playing
  63. 1:59with scared me for a while actually I
  64. 2:01mean honestly it's disuss most people
  65. 2:02right and I think because you know in
  66. 2:04this Modern Age we're so used to things
  67. 2:06being so sterile yeah you know having to
  68. 2:08disinfect everything but in fact you
  69. 2:10know it's important to remember with
  70. 2:11fermentation all of our ancestors no
  71. 2:13matter where we're from survive because
  72. 2:15of preservation yeah they survive
  73. 2:16because of fermentation right from
  74. 2:18Surplus vegetables to surviving cold and
  75. 2:20harsh Winters and it's all about
  76. 2:21creating the right environment so as
  77. 2:23you're saying with say cyow in kimchi
  78. 2:25you're creating a salty environment
  79. 2:27which is essentially too salty for
  80. 2:29harmful bacteria to survive but it's
  81. 2:31salty enough that lactobacillus created
  82. 2:34which is kind of present on a lot of the
  83. 2:35natural things that we're going to be
  84. 2:36using and that's what allows for safe
  85. 2:38preservation with kimchi making we're
  86. 2:41not introducing any specific microbes
  87. 2:44into this we're just using the microbes
  88. 2:46that are naturally found on on the
  89. 2:47vegetables exactly right and that's
  90. 2:48again this is where I can kind of scare
  91. 2:50people right it's the microbes that are
  92. 2:51naturally on you know the skin of the
  93. 2:53Apple you know the skin of the ginger
  94. 2:55from our hands even right and I think
  95. 2:58that again kind of bewilder people a bit
  96. 3:00about oh my goodness the microbes on my
  97. 3:01hands impacting this product but that's
  98. 3:04true with sourdough that's true with so
  99. 3:05many things however in this recipe we
  100. 3:08will be using Misa which I believe is
  101. 3:09unpasteurized that's also in many ways
  102. 3:11going to be adding a good hit of healthy
  103. 3:14bacteria that'll help the process along
  104. 3:16gotcha and know the particular microbes
  105. 3:18that are sort of uh perhaps more
  106. 3:20traditional for kimchi making or like
  107. 3:23better in terms of maybe the the outcome
  108. 3:25in a salty environment the lactic acid
  109. 3:27takes over and that's what gives kind of
  110. 3:29all fermented that Tang that Nuance kind
  111. 3:31of expected hit of like sourness tang
  112. 3:34funkiness and that's due to lact billus
  113. 3:37gotcha um so lactic acid um and that
  114. 3:39differs for example from vinegar based
  115. 3:41pickling where you're adding vinegar
  116. 3:43which lowers the ph and therefore the
  117. 3:45acidity level which makes it safe so
  118. 3:47instead of vinegar we're doing salt
  119. 3:49which then creates lactic acid and the
  120. 3:51the ingredients with kimchi whenever I
  121. 3:52think of kimchi I'm thinking GOI garu
  122. 3:55mhm kind of a non-negotiable but as are
  123. 3:57the aromatics so you know Ginger garli
  124. 4:00usually onion usually a source of
  125. 4:01sweetness and that can really range from
  126. 4:04Apple which is what we're using today
  127. 4:06just adding sugar to adding Korean pear
  128. 4:09the sweetness particularly is what's
  129. 4:10kind of helping feed those M those
  130. 4:12microbes I grew up in Chicago where and
  131. 4:14I went to University out in the east
  132. 4:15coast of America where there are tons of
  133. 4:18Korean restaurants and Korean grocery
  134. 4:19stores so Kim was really accessible um
  135. 4:22right at the University I actually moved
  136. 4:23to India and I lived in Mumbai for about
  137. 4:252 and 1/ half years and after I kind of
  138. 4:28settled in my home I was like I want to
  139. 4:30buy kimchi couldn't really find it so
  140. 4:31easily so I decided to make it luckily I
  141. 4:33was able to find most ingredients um but
  142. 4:35the one that I couldn't really find was
  143. 4:37gugat then I was looking through my
  144. 4:38housemate like Masala Duba um and he had
  145. 4:41cashmir chili pepper in there and I was
  146. 4:43like well let's give it a go and it
  147. 4:45worked kind of my attitude with
  148. 4:46fermentation you know is that
  149. 4:48ingredients shouldn't be barriers um you
  150. 4:50know as long as you follow the process
  151. 4:52and you kind of know what you're doing
  152. 4:54you'll create something probably
  153. 4:55delicious yeah that's a lot of grating
  154. 4:58yeah that's a good armor it's a good arm
  155. 5:00workout yeah so there's there's a decent
  156. 5:02amount of butternut squash there um
  157. 5:04that's grated the reason why we grated
  158. 5:06this is primarily because as you can see
  159. 5:08there's a lot of surface area right the
  160. 5:10actual pieces are very small and with
  161. 5:12fermentation um you know you want to
  162. 5:14really think about the size of what
  163. 5:16you're fermenting right if we left it in
  164. 5:17chunks it would take a lot longer to
  165. 5:19actually ferment gotcha right because
  166. 5:21you would need the salt and the microbes
  167. 5:23to kind of penetrate and work so the the
  168. 5:25way I've seen kimchi be made in like
  169. 5:27traditional Earth and pot like in Korea
  170. 5:30they use that sort of um is it a Napa
  171. 5:32cabbage is that a Chinese leaf for Napa
  172. 5:34cabbage chines leaf yeah and so and they
  173. 5:36they don't disrupt it like that they
  174. 5:37don't grate it I think they salt it and
  175. 5:39they wash it and then they put they
  176. 5:41stuff the the chili paste and stuff
  177. 5:43would that take longer because you've
  178. 5:45got less surface area than this exactly
  179. 5:47okay traditional recipe is you can chop
  180. 5:49up the Cabbage as well and that's
  181. 5:50obviously faster I think you know doing
  182. 5:53it whole or usually like in e or
  183. 5:55quarters you know you like salt it put
  184. 5:57the paste in between the leaves you kind
  185. 5:58of roll it up can put into Ani which is
  186. 6:00like that traditional Earth and wear pot
  187. 6:02what's it called anii yeahi so we've got
  188. 6:05our coarse butternut squash okay so now
  189. 6:07we're essentially going to be adding
  190. 6:09lots of stuff to a bowl and that's what
  191. 6:10makes this kimchi recipe so easy it's
  192. 6:12literally prep Ms ferment done I usually
  193. 6:15do whatever I have growing in my kitchen
  194. 6:17in terms of green onions so I think you
  195. 6:18can do as many or as little as you want
  196. 6:20usually I usually say maybe two to three
  197. 6:22so and you just want me to chop it up
  198. 6:24yeah exactly you know you can cut it up
  199. 6:25into you know a on a bias if you want
  200. 6:27you can cut it thinly you want
  201. 6:29everything to be relatively similar in
  202. 6:31size so that it ferments at a similar
  203. 6:33Pace okay so for ginger and garlic I
  204. 6:35usually say about equal parts 15 G each
  205. 6:38but let's say a healthy knob okay cool
  206. 6:41and skin on so this is where I think
  207. 6:43it's kind of personal preference I think
  208. 6:45skin on is great because again that's a
  209. 6:47great source of you know of bacteria
  210. 6:49right um and also reducing waste in the
  211. 6:51kitchen sure um and and for that reason
  212. 6:54do you tend to opt for organic oh we
  213. 6:57stepped into something controversial um
  214. 7:00I mean ultimately I think get whatever
  215. 7:01you can afford and get what's best will
  216. 7:03that affect the quality or the speed at
  217. 7:06which the kimchi will will form I think
  218. 7:09it's I think it's possible I think it's
  219. 7:10very possible I mean in my many years of
  220. 7:13now doing this as a hobby and kind of
  221. 7:14full-time now you know and I think with
  222. 7:16fermentation especially if you're new to
  223. 7:18it there's going to be so much trial and
  224. 7:19error start off with cyerra because if
  225. 7:20worse comes to worse you you've just
  226. 7:22you've wasted a cabbage right and I
  227. 7:24think that's where just use what you can
  228. 7:25get there obviously are pesticides
  229. 7:27everywhere you know I think rinse things
  230. 7:29off use common sense with it and also
  231. 7:31you know with with fermentation trust
  232. 7:33your senses and no pun intended but
  233. 7:34trust your G yeah I think the pun should
  234. 7:36have been
  235. 7:38intended but you know if it smells bad
  236. 7:41if it doesn't look good you know if you
  237. 7:42see kind of questionable things
  238. 7:44happening yeah throw it out and start
  239. 7:46over so we've got our butternut squash
  240. 7:49our spring onion our Ginger so we'll add
  241. 7:51garlic um maybe like three to four
  242. 7:53clothes okay um you can again this is
  243. 7:55where you can be quite flexible you can
  244. 7:57use a microplane you can grate it you
  245. 7:58can you know mince it if you want okay
  246. 8:00um when I'm lazy I put it all into a you
  247. 8:02know food processor splits it which is
  248. 8:04you know after the garlic we'll be doing
  249. 8:06maybe like half an apple um and again
  250. 8:08that's just a nice source of sweetness
  251. 8:10okay so we' got the garlic going in
  252. 8:12adding the garlic adding Apple we can
  253. 8:15now add you can start adding the other
  254. 8:17bits now so okay got your CH yeah I
  255. 8:19think we can just use all of that all of
  256. 8:21it I mean
  257. 8:23gosh like a quarter sure yeah yeah let's
  258. 8:27do it oh look at that color yeah that's
  259. 8:29great wow oh it's going to be very spicy
  260. 8:31yeah it's going to be very spicy now
  261. 8:33that's all good so we're using red misos
  262. 8:34we're going to be using miso so
  263. 8:36traditionally with kimchi you'll be
  264. 8:37using in terms of the sources of umami
  265. 8:40you'll be using usually fish sauce and
  266. 8:42fermented shrimp some people use soy
  267. 8:44sauce I really like plant-based and
  268. 8:46vegan kimchi so we're going to be using
  269. 8:48miso instead okay um you can use red or
  270. 8:51white I controversially kind of treat
  271. 8:53them similarly obviously they're very
  272. 8:55different but again if you want
  273. 8:56something a bit more Savory more salty
  274. 8:58you'll use more white miso which again
  275. 9:00leans sweeter I love that brand and
  276. 9:03what's the difference between the the
  277. 9:04different types of miso like the White
  278. 9:06and the and the red good question right
  279. 9:09okay so it's pretty much a function of
  280. 9:10the ingredients and the time of
  281. 9:12fermentation um so white miso has less
  282. 9:14salt more rice koi is a shorter ferment
  283. 9:17okay um so anywhere between honestly a
  284. 9:20few weeks to you know 3 to 6 months and
  285. 9:22that's why it's lighter in color right
  286. 9:24red Misa on the other hand has more salt
  287. 9:26because again you need more salt to keep
  288. 9:27it safe for fermentation periods 6
  289. 9:30months to honestly a few years even um
  290. 9:33and less rice coochi okay okay so it's
  291. 9:36always a function of you know those
  292. 9:37three ingredients usually soybeans rice
  293. 9:39coji and salt okay so it's just kind of
  294. 9:41proportions based on what you want to do
  295. 9:43like what I'm going to do with the rest
  296. 9:45of the jaw if I'm just using a
  297. 9:46tablespoon like how do you tend to use
  298. 9:48this in recipes outside of well my
  299. 9:49cookbook
  300. 9:51actually so essentially my cookbook
  301. 9:53right it's like 40% how to do these bits
  302. 9:54but 60% how to utilize in your everyday
  303. 9:56cooking such a good idea idea to ferment
  304. 10:00I think number one actually taste the
  305. 10:02Miso I think most people don't actually
  306. 10:04try ingredients they'll treat it as you
  307. 10:06know what let's take a box we to add it
  308. 10:08taste it right because you'll find that
  309. 10:10you know it's a it's very Umami heavy
  310. 10:12it's very salty it's very Savory you
  311. 10:14know you can use it to you know
  312. 10:15instantly add flavor to a stew you know
  313. 10:18if you are plant-based or vegan honestly
  314. 10:20Misa is everywhere nowadays because it
  315. 10:23automatically lifts the flavor profile
  316. 10:25we're going to add a bit of salt we kind
  317. 10:26of went out of order but normally I
  318. 10:27would add the salt first based on the
  319. 10:29weight
  320. 10:30of the pumpkin right usually with
  321. 10:32fermentation this is where this is
  322. 10:33probably the most scientific element in
  323. 10:35how I approach fermentation is that
  324. 10:37because you're creating that safe
  325. 10:38environment you want it to be more or
  326. 10:39less accurate to allow for that to
  327. 10:42happen um so we're going to add that
  328. 10:43we're going to add about a tablespoon of
  329. 10:45sugar or honey your choice I'm going to
  330. 10:48finish this because we we've had this
  331. 10:49for a little while and uh that's about
  332. 10:51tablespoon Co so I'm mixing this in now
  333. 10:53yep so now again all the ingredients yes
  334. 10:55honestly use your hands go crazy okay so
  335. 10:57am I squeezing yeah so again the
  336. 10:59objective
  337. 11:00ofet exactly right and again it's wet
  338. 11:02already and this is why I want to say
  339. 11:03it's a faster ferment because a lot of
  340. 11:05liquid will naturally Leech from the
  341. 11:07pumpkin salt will pull right because of
  342. 11:10Osmosis right it'll pull out liquid from
  343. 11:12the vegetable and by doing this your
  344. 11:14number one actually just mixing
  345. 11:16everything together but you're breaking
  346. 11:17down essentially all the cell walls of
  347. 11:19the vegetables and this is a
  348. 11:21particularly important step if you're
  349. 11:23making like cabbage kimchi or maybe
  350. 11:25using kimchi or making kimchi with
  351. 11:27vegetables that are a bit say firmer
  352. 11:28like if use Kale to make kimchi really
  353. 11:30want massage in the same way that you
  354. 11:32would do if you're eating raw kale
  355. 11:33anyway um it kind of helps you process
  356. 11:35it but again the other purpose of
  357. 11:36creating Brian here is that like one of
  358. 11:38my favorite phrases about fermenting is
  359. 11:40like you know everything is fine below
  360. 11:41the brine every everything is fine below
  361. 11:44the brine I love that um exactly right
  362. 11:46because essentially oxygen is the main
  363. 11:48let's say enemy of fermentation right so
  364. 11:51when you make anything from ccraft to
  365. 11:53kimchi you really want to aim for there
  366. 11:55to being a layer of brine above the
  367. 11:57vegetables because anything protruding
  368. 11:59from the brine will attract essentially
  369. 12:01unwanted yeast um but if everything is
  370. 12:04below the liquid then you should be safe
  371. 12:05just keep that's why you see some
  372. 12:06traditional recipes in the what's the
  373. 12:08Earth pot called
  374. 12:10again so that's why you see sometimes
  375. 12:12they put a piece of cabbage down push
  376. 12:14your rod down I'm going to put this into
  377. 12:15that jar now yes s a jar here all right
  378. 12:19so this is a jar we haven't had to
  379. 12:21sterilize it or anything it's just a
  380. 12:22clean jaw yeah so that's a that's a good
  381. 12:25question a lot of people often ask like
  382. 12:26oh do I need to properly sterilize what
  383. 12:29I'm fermenting in controversially I I
  384. 12:31think you can be a bit Lex with that I
  385. 12:33think you know if you are you know very
  386. 12:35nervous about things going wrong sure
  387. 12:37you can you know boil it you can you put
  388. 12:39in the oven for some time sure but my
  389. 12:41opinion if you are fermenting at home
  390. 12:43put in the dishwasher let it air dry you
  391. 12:45can you know hand wash it let it air dry
  392. 12:47and that's usually what I do but again
  393. 12:49in my experience with fermentation
  394. 12:50usually when things go wrong is when
  395. 12:53again these things are either exposed to
  396. 12:54oxygen or if you're tasting things
  397. 12:56constantly which is what I recommend
  398. 12:58you're Maybe you know you are
  399. 13:00introducing things that you shouldn't be
  400. 13:02gotcha yeah so introducing a bit of that
  401. 13:04oxygen to introducing oxygen even
  402. 13:06introducing like you know bacteria if if
  403. 13:08you've tasted something and then you put
  404. 13:10it back in don't do that um Okay cool so
  405. 13:13this is looking great I just need to
  406. 13:15pack this down right yeah so again you
  407. 13:17can already see there's a lot of natural
  408. 13:18brine forming and this is all good news
  409. 13:21um so yeah you can use your hand you can
  410. 13:22use a rolling pin a wooden spoon just to
  411. 13:25kind of push it down to exert
  412. 13:27pressure or just tap it and you can see
  413. 13:30again the brine happening yeah um and
  414. 13:32again that's what you're wanting this is
  415. 13:33one we've just made and this is one
  416. 13:35that's been fermenting for we made this
  417. 13:37about a week ago it's been at room
  418. 13:38temperature just because it's been so
  419. 13:39cold these are things to look out for
  420. 13:41you know especially if you if you um if
  421. 13:42you fill it up to the top what will
  422. 13:44happen is as it ferments the gases will
  423. 13:46push up liquid and brine so I think just
  424. 13:48so you don't come home to like a a
  425. 13:49bloody kimchi mess you want to do that I
  426. 13:52also tend to leave the lid like oh you
  427. 13:54can see a bubble oh look look at the
  428. 13:56bubble you see that it's a lot
  429. 13:59it is alive that wasn't faked we did not
  430. 14:02fake this since we just tried the fresh
  431. 14:03one the sweetness has kind of decreased
  432. 14:05a bit um he obviously it's consumed a
  433. 14:07lot of those sugar fresh that is that is
  434. 14:09fiery in a good way I like that yeah I
  435. 14:13can feel it well let's put this into a
  436. 14:15recipe course go so we got some mushies
  437. 14:17here some other vegetables that are
  438. 14:19super gut friendly specific
  439. 14:21polysaccharides that are fantastic for
  440. 14:22your gut health um they're Prebiotic and
  441. 14:25uh they are even a source of vitamin D
  442. 14:28particularly if you leave it in the
  443. 14:29window just like we were just now with
  444. 14:31the Gars pointing upwards um they'll
  445. 14:33absorb vitamin D from the Sun wow so you
  446. 14:36can consume those as well know is great
  447. 14:38first cook up the mushrooms put those
  448. 14:39aside um and then we just lay her up
  449. 14:41well this is a gut friendly snack I
  450. 14:43guess because we're using um sourdough
  451. 14:46uh this is actually using Wild Farm
  452. 14:48flour so friend of the Pod uh and the
  453. 14:51channel Karen Adon who's a baker
  454. 14:53emphatic about particular flowers
  455. 14:56recommend uh this is probably the best
  456. 14:58supermarket um bread to get really
  457. 15:00Supermarket breads a a bit of a
  458. 15:02Minefield but this one uses flowers that
  459. 15:04Sauced in the UK and do a great job of
  460. 15:07like you know adding seeds and whole
  461. 15:08grains and all the rest of it so we're
  462. 15:09going to use this and this again will
  463. 15:11have some of those extra fibers that
  464. 15:13your gut will absolutely love as well
  465. 15:14that's looking great so got like a
  466. 15:16lovely Browning on the mushrooms here
  467. 15:18you just like push them around the pan a
  468. 15:20little bit and yeah pretty simple yeah I
  469. 15:22think you know you want to get that
  470. 15:23caramelization slightly yeah here you go
  471. 15:25cool how do you want to layer up you
  472. 15:26want to put the kimchi on and then the
  473. 15:29cheese or you want to cheese first right
  474. 15:32occasionally though with um when you
  475. 15:34make a kimchi toasty sometimes people
  476. 15:35will suggest cooking on the kimchi first
  477. 15:37and honestly just for the caramelization
  478. 15:39of sugars but I like doing both right
  479. 15:41you know if you're going to cook some
  480. 15:42kimchi have some fresh kimchi along with
  481. 15:43it but again if you're putting in the
  482. 15:45Raw kimchi without it without it being
  483. 15:47exposed to intense heat all the good
  484. 15:50bacteria is still there yeah so
  485. 15:51obviously as the Heat's introduced
  486. 15:53bacteria will die let's do mushrooms
  487. 15:55next mushrooms yeah
  488. 15:59okay then let's add B more cheese more
  489. 16:02cheese and we'll try to flip it nice all
  490. 16:04righty
  491. 16:06okay
  492. 16:09nice and you want a little uh weight
  493. 16:12yeah let's do that there we go this is
  494. 16:15quite heavy actually it's perfect yeah
  495. 16:17do
  496. 16:23it should we try this let's do
  497. 16:26it m oh so
  498. 16:30good oh good and you got some extra
  499. 16:33stuff here as well let have a little
  500. 16:35taste show and tell what is this that's
  501. 16:37kanji k a NJ I kanji it's a South Asian
  502. 16:41um um probiotic drink essentially it's
  503. 16:43it's lacto fermented um we traditionally
  504. 16:46you use either like black or purple or
  505. 16:48red carrots and beetroot and I've gone
  506. 16:50with beetroot just because I can't get
  507. 16:51those carrots here but Beach W exactly
  508. 16:54so and the great thing about this is
  509. 16:55that the brine is what you actually
  510. 16:56drink but then you also end up with a
  511. 16:58lot of pickles right normally there's
  512. 16:59beetroots and stuff oh I recognize this
  513. 17:03I recognize it immediately yeah yeah so
  514. 17:05again I think it's slightly an acquired
  515. 17:06taste because in terms of
  516. 17:08spices um so so look TR try it you have
  517. 17:11it would you have it with a meal or yeah
  518. 17:13russom you have with a meal I don't know
  519. 17:14about this though this is just like a
  520. 17:16regular I think maybe cheers everyone
  521. 17:19cheers Happ
  522. 17:21bir cheers definitely Savory there's a
  523. 17:25Savory here I definitely acquired I
  524. 17:27don't think this would be for everyone
  525. 17:28but this is really

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