Ferment this! How to make probiotic kimchi with butternut squash (easy & low waste) — Transcript
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- 0:00today we're going to be making a pretty
- 0:01simple very easy straightforward
- 0:03butternut squash kimchi it's a low waist
- 0:05and that we're going to be using the
- 0:06entire vegetable but it's a very simple
- 0:09quick um probiotic filled kimchi lots of
- 0:11good microbes for the guts amazing
- 0:13amazing all right so I'm going to peel
- 0:15the skin so the Skins we're not going to
- 0:17use yeah we're not going to use that so
- 0:18you could probably just compost that
- 0:20obviously butter and squash skin is
- 0:21edible however I think you know when
- 0:23fermenting it um you're going to want to
- 0:25remove that just for ease okay cool tell
- 0:27us a bit about like how you got into
- 0:30kimchi making what is kimchi how does
- 0:32that differ from like a sour CRA or a
- 0:35pickle sure very good question so
- 0:36ultimately the kind of microbial process
- 0:39of fermentation is very similar it's
- 0:41still lacto fermentation so essentially
- 0:43salt creates an environment in which um
- 0:45lacto basilis so essentially lactic acid
- 0:47is created which safely preserves
- 0:49vegetables for long-term preservation
- 0:51gotta kimchi is a very traditional
- 0:53Korean ferment um so probably if you've
- 0:54been to any Korean restaurant you'll
- 0:56find it there you can get at most
- 0:57grocery stores now what you'll quickly
- 0:58learn when you learn about how to how
- 1:00how to make kimchi and kind of what's
- 1:02happening is you can pretty much kimchi
- 1:03anything just skinned it here I'm
- 1:06assuming we don't need the top leave
- 1:08that here and we're just going to use
- 1:10the coarse side of a Bo it's going to
- 1:12box grad it okay and this is going to go
- 1:14into a bowl and this is the bowl that
- 1:16we've got here in the doctor's kitchen
- 1:18we do have some glass ones but I know
- 1:20there's a bit of controversy around
- 1:21whether you should be using metal versus
- 1:23glass yeah often times you'll hear with
- 1:25fermentation and that's true from
- 1:26kombucha to sourkraut is that you should
- 1:28avoid metal my personal opinion is that
- 1:31in preparation in process you can use
- 1:33metal okay right I think you know
- 1:35there's potential dangers with long-term
- 1:37exposure in terms of you know potential
- 1:39chemical reactions but in my time making
- 1:42ferments in my home kitchen I've never
- 1:44had issues with those okay I would say
- 1:46if you're doing it commercially maybe
- 1:47avoid it you said something earlier
- 1:49about like the microbes find way the
- 1:51fact that they can divide so quickly and
- 1:53like they're super resilient they can
- 1:55evolve fermentation often really scares
- 1:57people right you know you're playing
- 1:59with scared me for a while actually I
- 2:01mean honestly it's disuss most people
- 2:02right and I think because you know in
- 2:04this Modern Age we're so used to things
- 2:06being so sterile yeah you know having to
- 2:08disinfect everything but in fact you
- 2:10know it's important to remember with
- 2:11fermentation all of our ancestors no
- 2:13matter where we're from survive because
- 2:15of preservation yeah they survive
- 2:16because of fermentation right from
- 2:18Surplus vegetables to surviving cold and
- 2:20harsh Winters and it's all about
- 2:21creating the right environment so as
- 2:23you're saying with say cyow in kimchi
- 2:25you're creating a salty environment
- 2:27which is essentially too salty for
- 2:29harmful bacteria to survive but it's
- 2:31salty enough that lactobacillus created
- 2:34which is kind of present on a lot of the
- 2:35natural things that we're going to be
- 2:36using and that's what allows for safe
- 2:38preservation with kimchi making we're
- 2:41not introducing any specific microbes
- 2:44into this we're just using the microbes
- 2:46that are naturally found on on the
- 2:47vegetables exactly right and that's
- 2:48again this is where I can kind of scare
- 2:50people right it's the microbes that are
- 2:51naturally on you know the skin of the
- 2:53Apple you know the skin of the ginger
- 2:55from our hands even right and I think
- 2:58that again kind of bewilder people a bit
- 3:00about oh my goodness the microbes on my
- 3:01hands impacting this product but that's
- 3:04true with sourdough that's true with so
- 3:05many things however in this recipe we
- 3:08will be using Misa which I believe is
- 3:09unpasteurized that's also in many ways
- 3:11going to be adding a good hit of healthy
- 3:14bacteria that'll help the process along
- 3:16gotcha and know the particular microbes
- 3:18that are sort of uh perhaps more
- 3:20traditional for kimchi making or like
- 3:23better in terms of maybe the the outcome
- 3:25in a salty environment the lactic acid
- 3:27takes over and that's what gives kind of
- 3:29all fermented that Tang that Nuance kind
- 3:31of expected hit of like sourness tang
- 3:34funkiness and that's due to lact billus
- 3:37gotcha um so lactic acid um and that
- 3:39differs for example from vinegar based
- 3:41pickling where you're adding vinegar
- 3:43which lowers the ph and therefore the
- 3:45acidity level which makes it safe so
- 3:47instead of vinegar we're doing salt
- 3:49which then creates lactic acid and the
- 3:51the ingredients with kimchi whenever I
- 3:52think of kimchi I'm thinking GOI garu
- 3:55mhm kind of a non-negotiable but as are
- 3:57the aromatics so you know Ginger garli
- 4:00usually onion usually a source of
- 4:01sweetness and that can really range from
- 4:04Apple which is what we're using today
- 4:06just adding sugar to adding Korean pear
- 4:09the sweetness particularly is what's
- 4:10kind of helping feed those M those
- 4:12microbes I grew up in Chicago where and
- 4:14I went to University out in the east
- 4:15coast of America where there are tons of
- 4:18Korean restaurants and Korean grocery
- 4:19stores so Kim was really accessible um
- 4:22right at the University I actually moved
- 4:23to India and I lived in Mumbai for about
- 4:252 and 1/ half years and after I kind of
- 4:28settled in my home I was like I want to
- 4:30buy kimchi couldn't really find it so
- 4:31easily so I decided to make it luckily I
- 4:33was able to find most ingredients um but
- 4:35the one that I couldn't really find was
- 4:37gugat then I was looking through my
- 4:38housemate like Masala Duba um and he had
- 4:41cashmir chili pepper in there and I was
- 4:43like well let's give it a go and it
- 4:45worked kind of my attitude with
- 4:46fermentation you know is that
- 4:48ingredients shouldn't be barriers um you
- 4:50know as long as you follow the process
- 4:52and you kind of know what you're doing
- 4:54you'll create something probably
- 4:55delicious yeah that's a lot of grating
- 4:58yeah that's a good armor it's a good arm
- 5:00workout yeah so there's there's a decent
- 5:02amount of butternut squash there um
- 5:04that's grated the reason why we grated
- 5:06this is primarily because as you can see
- 5:08there's a lot of surface area right the
- 5:10actual pieces are very small and with
- 5:12fermentation um you know you want to
- 5:14really think about the size of what
- 5:16you're fermenting right if we left it in
- 5:17chunks it would take a lot longer to
- 5:19actually ferment gotcha right because
- 5:21you would need the salt and the microbes
- 5:23to kind of penetrate and work so the the
- 5:25way I've seen kimchi be made in like
- 5:27traditional Earth and pot like in Korea
- 5:30they use that sort of um is it a Napa
- 5:32cabbage is that a Chinese leaf for Napa
- 5:34cabbage chines leaf yeah and so and they
- 5:36they don't disrupt it like that they
- 5:37don't grate it I think they salt it and
- 5:39they wash it and then they put they
- 5:41stuff the the chili paste and stuff
- 5:43would that take longer because you've
- 5:45got less surface area than this exactly
- 5:47okay traditional recipe is you can chop
- 5:49up the Cabbage as well and that's
- 5:50obviously faster I think you know doing
- 5:53it whole or usually like in e or
- 5:55quarters you know you like salt it put
- 5:57the paste in between the leaves you kind
- 5:58of roll it up can put into Ani which is
- 6:00like that traditional Earth and wear pot
- 6:02what's it called anii yeahi so we've got
- 6:05our coarse butternut squash okay so now
- 6:07we're essentially going to be adding
- 6:09lots of stuff to a bowl and that's what
- 6:10makes this kimchi recipe so easy it's
- 6:12literally prep Ms ferment done I usually
- 6:15do whatever I have growing in my kitchen
- 6:17in terms of green onions so I think you
- 6:18can do as many or as little as you want
- 6:20usually I usually say maybe two to three
- 6:22so and you just want me to chop it up
- 6:24yeah exactly you know you can cut it up
- 6:25into you know a on a bias if you want
- 6:27you can cut it thinly you want
- 6:29everything to be relatively similar in
- 6:31size so that it ferments at a similar
- 6:33Pace okay so for ginger and garlic I
- 6:35usually say about equal parts 15 G each
- 6:38but let's say a healthy knob okay cool
- 6:41and skin on so this is where I think
- 6:43it's kind of personal preference I think
- 6:45skin on is great because again that's a
- 6:47great source of you know of bacteria
- 6:49right um and also reducing waste in the
- 6:51kitchen sure um and and for that reason
- 6:54do you tend to opt for organic oh we
- 6:57stepped into something controversial um
- 7:00I mean ultimately I think get whatever
- 7:01you can afford and get what's best will
- 7:03that affect the quality or the speed at
- 7:06which the kimchi will will form I think
- 7:09it's I think it's possible I think it's
- 7:10very possible I mean in my many years of
- 7:13now doing this as a hobby and kind of
- 7:14full-time now you know and I think with
- 7:16fermentation especially if you're new to
- 7:18it there's going to be so much trial and
- 7:19error start off with cyerra because if
- 7:20worse comes to worse you you've just
- 7:22you've wasted a cabbage right and I
- 7:24think that's where just use what you can
- 7:25get there obviously are pesticides
- 7:27everywhere you know I think rinse things
- 7:29off use common sense with it and also
- 7:31you know with with fermentation trust
- 7:33your senses and no pun intended but
- 7:34trust your G yeah I think the pun should
- 7:36have been
- 7:38intended but you know if it smells bad
- 7:41if it doesn't look good you know if you
- 7:42see kind of questionable things
- 7:44happening yeah throw it out and start
- 7:46over so we've got our butternut squash
- 7:49our spring onion our Ginger so we'll add
- 7:51garlic um maybe like three to four
- 7:53clothes okay um you can again this is
- 7:55where you can be quite flexible you can
- 7:57use a microplane you can grate it you
- 7:58can you know mince it if you want okay
- 8:00um when I'm lazy I put it all into a you
- 8:02know food processor splits it which is
- 8:04you know after the garlic we'll be doing
- 8:06maybe like half an apple um and again
- 8:08that's just a nice source of sweetness
- 8:10okay so we' got the garlic going in
- 8:12adding the garlic adding Apple we can
- 8:15now add you can start adding the other
- 8:17bits now so okay got your CH yeah I
- 8:19think we can just use all of that all of
- 8:21it I mean
- 8:23gosh like a quarter sure yeah yeah let's
- 8:27do it oh look at that color yeah that's
- 8:29great wow oh it's going to be very spicy
- 8:31yeah it's going to be very spicy now
- 8:33that's all good so we're using red misos
- 8:34we're going to be using miso so
- 8:36traditionally with kimchi you'll be
- 8:37using in terms of the sources of umami
- 8:40you'll be using usually fish sauce and
- 8:42fermented shrimp some people use soy
- 8:44sauce I really like plant-based and
- 8:46vegan kimchi so we're going to be using
- 8:48miso instead okay um you can use red or
- 8:51white I controversially kind of treat
- 8:53them similarly obviously they're very
- 8:55different but again if you want
- 8:56something a bit more Savory more salty
- 8:58you'll use more white miso which again
- 9:00leans sweeter I love that brand and
- 9:03what's the difference between the the
- 9:04different types of miso like the White
- 9:06and the and the red good question right
- 9:09okay so it's pretty much a function of
- 9:10the ingredients and the time of
- 9:12fermentation um so white miso has less
- 9:14salt more rice koi is a shorter ferment
- 9:17okay um so anywhere between honestly a
- 9:20few weeks to you know 3 to 6 months and
- 9:22that's why it's lighter in color right
- 9:24red Misa on the other hand has more salt
- 9:26because again you need more salt to keep
- 9:27it safe for fermentation periods 6
- 9:30months to honestly a few years even um
- 9:33and less rice coochi okay okay so it's
- 9:36always a function of you know those
- 9:37three ingredients usually soybeans rice
- 9:39coji and salt okay so it's just kind of
- 9:41proportions based on what you want to do
- 9:43like what I'm going to do with the rest
- 9:45of the jaw if I'm just using a
- 9:46tablespoon like how do you tend to use
- 9:48this in recipes outside of well my
- 9:49cookbook
- 9:51actually so essentially my cookbook
- 9:53right it's like 40% how to do these bits
- 9:54but 60% how to utilize in your everyday
- 9:56cooking such a good idea idea to ferment
- 10:00I think number one actually taste the
- 10:02Miso I think most people don't actually
- 10:04try ingredients they'll treat it as you
- 10:06know what let's take a box we to add it
- 10:08taste it right because you'll find that
- 10:10you know it's a it's very Umami heavy
- 10:12it's very salty it's very Savory you
- 10:14know you can use it to you know
- 10:15instantly add flavor to a stew you know
- 10:18if you are plant-based or vegan honestly
- 10:20Misa is everywhere nowadays because it
- 10:23automatically lifts the flavor profile
- 10:25we're going to add a bit of salt we kind
- 10:26of went out of order but normally I
- 10:27would add the salt first based on the
- 10:29weight
- 10:30of the pumpkin right usually with
- 10:32fermentation this is where this is
- 10:33probably the most scientific element in
- 10:35how I approach fermentation is that
- 10:37because you're creating that safe
- 10:38environment you want it to be more or
- 10:39less accurate to allow for that to
- 10:42happen um so we're going to add that
- 10:43we're going to add about a tablespoon of
- 10:45sugar or honey your choice I'm going to
- 10:48finish this because we we've had this
- 10:49for a little while and uh that's about
- 10:51tablespoon Co so I'm mixing this in now
- 10:53yep so now again all the ingredients yes
- 10:55honestly use your hands go crazy okay so
- 10:57am I squeezing yeah so again the
- 10:59objective
- 11:00ofet exactly right and again it's wet
- 11:02already and this is why I want to say
- 11:03it's a faster ferment because a lot of
- 11:05liquid will naturally Leech from the
- 11:07pumpkin salt will pull right because of
- 11:10Osmosis right it'll pull out liquid from
- 11:12the vegetable and by doing this your
- 11:14number one actually just mixing
- 11:16everything together but you're breaking
- 11:17down essentially all the cell walls of
- 11:19the vegetables and this is a
- 11:21particularly important step if you're
- 11:23making like cabbage kimchi or maybe
- 11:25using kimchi or making kimchi with
- 11:27vegetables that are a bit say firmer
- 11:28like if use Kale to make kimchi really
- 11:30want massage in the same way that you
- 11:32would do if you're eating raw kale
- 11:33anyway um it kind of helps you process
- 11:35it but again the other purpose of
- 11:36creating Brian here is that like one of
- 11:38my favorite phrases about fermenting is
- 11:40like you know everything is fine below
- 11:41the brine every everything is fine below
- 11:44the brine I love that um exactly right
- 11:46because essentially oxygen is the main
- 11:48let's say enemy of fermentation right so
- 11:51when you make anything from ccraft to
- 11:53kimchi you really want to aim for there
- 11:55to being a layer of brine above the
- 11:57vegetables because anything protruding
- 11:59from the brine will attract essentially
- 12:01unwanted yeast um but if everything is
- 12:04below the liquid then you should be safe
- 12:05just keep that's why you see some
- 12:06traditional recipes in the what's the
- 12:08Earth pot called
- 12:10again so that's why you see sometimes
- 12:12they put a piece of cabbage down push
- 12:14your rod down I'm going to put this into
- 12:15that jar now yes s a jar here all right
- 12:19so this is a jar we haven't had to
- 12:21sterilize it or anything it's just a
- 12:22clean jaw yeah so that's a that's a good
- 12:25question a lot of people often ask like
- 12:26oh do I need to properly sterilize what
- 12:29I'm fermenting in controversially I I
- 12:31think you can be a bit Lex with that I
- 12:33think you know if you are you know very
- 12:35nervous about things going wrong sure
- 12:37you can you know boil it you can you put
- 12:39in the oven for some time sure but my
- 12:41opinion if you are fermenting at home
- 12:43put in the dishwasher let it air dry you
- 12:45can you know hand wash it let it air dry
- 12:47and that's usually what I do but again
- 12:49in my experience with fermentation
- 12:50usually when things go wrong is when
- 12:53again these things are either exposed to
- 12:54oxygen or if you're tasting things
- 12:56constantly which is what I recommend
- 12:58you're Maybe you know you are
- 13:00introducing things that you shouldn't be
- 13:02gotcha yeah so introducing a bit of that
- 13:04oxygen to introducing oxygen even
- 13:06introducing like you know bacteria if if
- 13:08you've tasted something and then you put
- 13:10it back in don't do that um Okay cool so
- 13:13this is looking great I just need to
- 13:15pack this down right yeah so again you
- 13:17can already see there's a lot of natural
- 13:18brine forming and this is all good news
- 13:21um so yeah you can use your hand you can
- 13:22use a rolling pin a wooden spoon just to
- 13:25kind of push it down to exert
- 13:27pressure or just tap it and you can see
- 13:30again the brine happening yeah um and
- 13:32again that's what you're wanting this is
- 13:33one we've just made and this is one
- 13:35that's been fermenting for we made this
- 13:37about a week ago it's been at room
- 13:38temperature just because it's been so
- 13:39cold these are things to look out for
- 13:41you know especially if you if you um if
- 13:42you fill it up to the top what will
- 13:44happen is as it ferments the gases will
- 13:46push up liquid and brine so I think just
- 13:48so you don't come home to like a a
- 13:49bloody kimchi mess you want to do that I
- 13:52also tend to leave the lid like oh you
- 13:54can see a bubble oh look look at the
- 13:56bubble you see that it's a lot
- 13:59it is alive that wasn't faked we did not
- 14:02fake this since we just tried the fresh
- 14:03one the sweetness has kind of decreased
- 14:05a bit um he obviously it's consumed a
- 14:07lot of those sugar fresh that is that is
- 14:09fiery in a good way I like that yeah I
- 14:13can feel it well let's put this into a
- 14:15recipe course go so we got some mushies
- 14:17here some other vegetables that are
- 14:19super gut friendly specific
- 14:21polysaccharides that are fantastic for
- 14:22your gut health um they're Prebiotic and
- 14:25uh they are even a source of vitamin D
- 14:28particularly if you leave it in the
- 14:29window just like we were just now with
- 14:31the Gars pointing upwards um they'll
- 14:33absorb vitamin D from the Sun wow so you
- 14:36can consume those as well know is great
- 14:38first cook up the mushrooms put those
- 14:39aside um and then we just lay her up
- 14:41well this is a gut friendly snack I
- 14:43guess because we're using um sourdough
- 14:46uh this is actually using Wild Farm
- 14:48flour so friend of the Pod uh and the
- 14:51channel Karen Adon who's a baker
- 14:53emphatic about particular flowers
- 14:56recommend uh this is probably the best
- 14:58supermarket um bread to get really
- 15:00Supermarket breads a a bit of a
- 15:02Minefield but this one uses flowers that
- 15:04Sauced in the UK and do a great job of
- 15:07like you know adding seeds and whole
- 15:08grains and all the rest of it so we're
- 15:09going to use this and this again will
- 15:11have some of those extra fibers that
- 15:13your gut will absolutely love as well
- 15:14that's looking great so got like a
- 15:16lovely Browning on the mushrooms here
- 15:18you just like push them around the pan a
- 15:20little bit and yeah pretty simple yeah I
- 15:22think you know you want to get that
- 15:23caramelization slightly yeah here you go
- 15:25cool how do you want to layer up you
- 15:26want to put the kimchi on and then the
- 15:29cheese or you want to cheese first right
- 15:32occasionally though with um when you
- 15:34make a kimchi toasty sometimes people
- 15:35will suggest cooking on the kimchi first
- 15:37and honestly just for the caramelization
- 15:39of sugars but I like doing both right
- 15:41you know if you're going to cook some
- 15:42kimchi have some fresh kimchi along with
- 15:43it but again if you're putting in the
- 15:45Raw kimchi without it without it being
- 15:47exposed to intense heat all the good
- 15:50bacteria is still there yeah so
- 15:51obviously as the Heat's introduced
- 15:53bacteria will die let's do mushrooms
- 15:55next mushrooms yeah
- 15:59okay then let's add B more cheese more
- 16:02cheese and we'll try to flip it nice all
- 16:04righty
- 16:06okay
- 16:09nice and you want a little uh weight
- 16:12yeah let's do that there we go this is
- 16:15quite heavy actually it's perfect yeah
- 16:17do
- 16:23it should we try this let's do
- 16:26it m oh so
- 16:30good oh good and you got some extra
- 16:33stuff here as well let have a little
- 16:35taste show and tell what is this that's
- 16:37kanji k a NJ I kanji it's a South Asian
- 16:41um um probiotic drink essentially it's
- 16:43it's lacto fermented um we traditionally
- 16:46you use either like black or purple or
- 16:48red carrots and beetroot and I've gone
- 16:50with beetroot just because I can't get
- 16:51those carrots here but Beach W exactly
- 16:54so and the great thing about this is
- 16:55that the brine is what you actually
- 16:56drink but then you also end up with a
- 16:58lot of pickles right normally there's
- 16:59beetroots and stuff oh I recognize this
- 17:03I recognize it immediately yeah yeah so
- 17:05again I think it's slightly an acquired
- 17:06taste because in terms of
- 17:08spices um so so look TR try it you have
- 17:11it would you have it with a meal or yeah
- 17:13russom you have with a meal I don't know
- 17:14about this though this is just like a
- 17:16regular I think maybe cheers everyone
- 17:19cheers Happ
- 17:21bir cheers definitely Savory there's a
- 17:25Savory here I definitely acquired I
- 17:27don't think this would be for everyone
- 17:28but this is really
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