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0:00Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to
0:02an all new episode of Serlessly with me,
0:05your host Annie Elise. And this last
0:08week has been honestly like Mr. Toad's
0:11wild ride. There has been so much going
0:14on. Not even just so many new cases,
0:17which is like disturbing and unsettling
0:19in and of itself, but a lot of updates
0:22to cases that either happened a long
0:24time ago and we're finally getting
0:26updates or like these crazy breaking
0:29news updates in cases that I know so
0:31many of us have been following. So, I'm
0:34going to as normally as normally I don't
0:36think that's a word. As usual, I'm going
0:38to start with the updates to some cases
0:40that we've already been discussing
0:42together and then we're going to get
0:44into the new cases. Now, before I jump
0:47into all of that, I do want to let you
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1:45to join Patreon. Now let's talk about
1:47these updates first. I want to start
1:49with Melody Buzzard. And I can just feel
1:52that a deep dive is going to be on the
1:55horizon here once more information comes
1:57out about her mom because there has been
2:00so much back and forth with this for
2:02weeks now. But if you remember, Melody
2:04is the girl who went missing. And I
2:07should say went missing or I say went
2:08missing but more like she was never
2:10reported as missing. And then when the
2:12school came and did the wellness check,
2:15her mom was refusing to cooperate. She
2:17wouldn't share where Melody was. They
2:19had just gone on that like cross-country
2:21road trip together and things just
2:24weren't adding up. Then Melody's mom,
2:26Ashley, ended up being arrested for
2:29false imprisonment charges relating to
2:31somebody else. And so I think that kind
2:33of gave everybody a little bit of a sigh
2:35of relief like she's been arrested now.
2:37We'll figure out what happened to
2:38Melody. She's obviously going to talk.
2:40We're going to learn more. This is just
2:42something to formally get her locked up.
2:44That unfortunately was not the case. So,
2:47like I said, on November 7th, she had
2:49been arrested on false imprisonment
2:51charges, but completely unrelated to the
2:54disappearance of her daughter, Melody.
2:56But according to People magazine, the
2:57felony charge was dropped on Thursday,
3:00November 20th. This was after an audio
3:02recording captured by Ashley was played
3:05in court, and it seemingly disproved the
3:08claims of false imprisonment. In the
3:10audio, Ashley opened the door and
3:12allowed this person to leave her home.
3:14There was also no mention of a specific
3:16location in the audio. So, we don't know
3:19what the details were of that. Again, I
3:21think that maybe I I don't know the
3:23details of that actually, so I don't
3:25want to speak on that. But I think that
3:28the thought and hope in arresting her
3:31and holding her on those charges was
3:33that she would fold and share what
3:35happened to her daughter, but she still
3:38hasn't. Meanwhile, we are hearing from a
3:40lot of family members that she was
3:42cutting the face out of missing person's
3:44posters of her own daughter, that she is
3:46refusing, of course, to cooperate. We
3:48still don't know where Melody is, what
3:50happened, but my point earlier being I
3:53think that that information, it's going
3:56to come out sooner rather than later.
3:58And so I think we are on the verge of a
4:00deep dive revisiting this case and going
4:02through not only everything regarding
4:05the case but Ashley her mom as well
4:07because there's a lot of backstory which
4:10I have found out about that I haven't
4:11even touched on that I think we'll
4:13include in that just to give a full
4:15picture of everything. So more to come
4:17on that but did want to at least mention
4:19that update. And now we've got to talk
4:21about the David of it all, the D4VD
4:24David, because that's something that we
4:26have been talking about for months now.
4:28As a quick little onenote reminder,
4:31David is a singer. Celeste was a
4:3415-year-old little girl who I believe
4:36was murdered when she was just 14 years
4:38old and she was found in the trunk of
4:40his Tesla. And it's been really
4:43interesting. For the last several weeks,
4:45there's been back and forth. Is David a
4:46suspect? Is he not? They don't even have
4:48a cause of death. he can't be named a
4:50suspect. His weird lyrics about like
4:52romantic homicide come out. There's all
4:55these things that make it look on the
4:56surface like David is somehow involved
4:58in this. But he was never formally named
5:01a suspect, never arrested, never charged
5:03with anything. Well, big shocker to
5:06absolutely nobody in the freaking world.
5:09He now has officially been named a
5:11suspect in the death of Celeste. And
5:14investigators also say he is not the
5:16only suspect. Digital evidence from
5:19phones, social media, and even data that
5:21was pulled from the Tesla has also
5:24placed a second individual at the
5:26location where they believe Celeste
5:28died. Now, one major point of interest,
5:31too, for the detectives is a very
5:33mysterious middle of the night road trip
5:36to Santa Barbara last spring. Now, if
5:38you remember from my last update, the
5:40last known photos of Celeste were from
5:42February, end of January, early
5:44February. They then found her body in
5:48the very end tail end of summertime. So
5:51the fact that there is this middle of
5:53the night road trip last spring that
5:55could either be when something happened
5:57or a potential attempted disposal
6:00something. But they are saying that this
6:02is a major point of interest for the
6:04detectives. So, they're now zeroing in
6:07on the timeline to figure out who went
6:09on this road trip, why they went, what
6:12role in it may have played in Celeste's
6:14disappearance, all of it. Now, the
6:17condition of Celeste's body is also
6:18something that we need to talk about
6:20because it has been a big point of
6:21contention in this investigation as to
6:23why nobody was named a suspect and still
6:26why nobody has been charged. And it's
6:28unfortunately, I'm sorry to get a little
6:30bit graphic here, but it's because the
6:33state in which her remains were found.
6:35They were unable to determine not only a
6:38cause of death, but also a manner of
6:40death because of how badly decomposed
6:42her body was. So despite all of this and
6:46still not knowing the clear cause of
6:47death, the LAPD robbery homicide
6:50division has officially reclassified the
6:52case as a homicide. And now with at
6:54least two suspects who are now clearly
6:57coming into focus, the investigators
6:59believe that there are still major
7:00pieces of this story that have yet come
7:02to light and that they expect to come to
7:04light soon and start to put the entire
7:06puzzle together. So, we will be
7:09following this very closely. Also, we'll
7:12probably have a deep dive on this in the
7:13near future. So, stay tuned. Now, in
7:16another throwback case that had a huge
7:19update over the weekend that I talked
7:21about a little bit on social media, but
7:23want to talk about it here, Morgan
7:25Geyser, the primary attacker back in the
7:282014 Slender Man stabbing. You may
7:31remember her. She was briefly on the run
7:33this weekend after she cut off her ankle
7:35monitoring bracelet and disappeared from
7:37a group home where she had been living.
7:40Now, as a reminder for those who aren't
7:41familiar with this case, it's haunting
7:44and so so disturbing, but back in 2014,
7:47Morgan and her friend Ana lured their
7:50friend and classmate Payton into the
7:52woods. Once they had Payton in the
7:54woods, and by the way, they were all 12
7:56years old at the time, just 12. Once
7:58they had Payton in the woods, Morgan
8:00stabbed her 19 times while Ana was like
8:04egging her on. Luckily, Payton survived
8:06this attack and she was able to crawl
8:08out of the woods and get to safety,
8:10although she had to spend a lot of time
8:11in the hospital recovering. But once
8:13Morgan and Ana were apprehended, their
8:16explanation to the investigators was
8:18that this attack was all in an effort to
8:21appease Slender Man, the fictional
8:24horror character that they were
8:25apparently convinced was real. They
8:27thought that by doing this sacrifice and
8:30this killing for him, they would get to
8:32live in his castle. That's where they
8:34were actually walking at the time that
8:35they were arrested or I should say
8:37apprehended on the side of the road.
8:39They thought that it would help save
8:40their families fully believing that this
8:43fictional character was real according
8:45to them. Whether or not they truly
8:47believed it, who the hell really knows?
8:48But again, all three girls were only 12
8:50years old at the time. So, at the trial,
8:52I believe Morgan plead guilty to either
8:55intentional attempted first-degree or
8:57secondderee homicide. However, she was
9:00found not guilty by mental defect and
9:02instead of going to prison, she was
9:04sentenced to 40 years in a psychiatric
9:06facility. However, then her team started
9:09appealing everything, saying that she
9:11should be released and have early
9:14release and supervised release, which a
9:16lot of people had objections to because
9:18not only was this crime outright evil
9:20and so evil at just 12 years old, but
9:23even during the time when she has been
9:25in this care facility, she has been
9:27making very disturbing drawings. She has
9:29been in touch with somebody who collects
9:31like murder memorabilia. A lot of red
9:33flags. But despite all of that, the
9:35judge agreed to this. So earlier this
9:38year, Morgan was released from the
9:40psychiatric care facility and she was
9:42placed in a supervised group home.
9:45However, on Saturday, November 22nd, she
9:47reportedly just walked out of this home
9:49in Wisconsin and removed her ankle
9:52monitoring bracelet and took off with a
9:5542year-old friend, which Morgan at this
9:57point is 22 years old. who this
10:0042-year-old friend is. I've done a
10:02little bit of research on that
10:03information, don't worry, is coming. But
10:05when they took off, they went to
10:08Illinois. Then the police responded to
10:11reports of two people who were sleeping
10:13on a sidewalk behind a truck stop. This
10:16being Morgan and her friend. Initially,
10:19apparently Morgan refused to give her
10:20name and told them, "I've done something
10:22really bad. You can Google me and figure
10:24out who I am." And was not cooperating.
10:27The 42-year-old friend also was not
10:30cooperating and later was arrested on
10:31obstruction charges. But once Morgan
10:34revealed her identity, the police
10:35confirmed that she was the missing
10:37escapee and they took her into custody.
10:40Now, what's to come with all of this? I
10:42don't really know. I apparently the
10:44police told her 42-year-old friend at
10:47the scene that she would now have to go
10:49back to the psychiatric care facility.
10:52But in my mind, I'm like, uh, if she
10:54just escaped and cut off her bracelet,
10:55she should now be going to prison. she
10:57shouldn't get to go back to that care
10:58facility. But I know it gets very
11:00complicated when mental health is
11:01involved. That being said, we have done
11:05a deep dive on this case in the past,
11:06but we are currently doing a deep dive
11:08into everything about Morgan at the
11:11facility, the drawings, the
11:13conversations with that memor uh the
11:15murder memorabilia guy, her new friend,
11:18what that all was like. So, the updated
11:20deep dive is coming. Just stay tuned.
11:23But I think it's going to be out, you
11:26know, Tuesday. So, there you go. I'll
11:28keep you posted on that and we'll see
11:30what happens with Morgan and what
11:32repercussions she's going to have to
11:34face now. But a lot of people were
11:36obviously outraged when they saw that
11:38she had fled, rightfully so. I think
11:40this was everybody's concern when her
11:42team was trying to get her early
11:44release. She only ended up serving what
11:46was it I think 9 years, maybe less in
11:48the psychiatric care facility.
11:50originally sentenced to 40 years and not
11:53even prison time. I mean, the whole
11:54thing is just an epic fail in my
11:56opinion. So, keeping a close eye on this
11:58and definitely will keep you updated.
12:01Okay, so now we're going to get into
12:03some of these new cases. And one of
12:05these cases, I swear it has taken the
12:07internet by storm. Everybody is
12:09following it. I've rece I've seen your
12:11DMs, your comments, everything. And it's
12:14a wild one. I admittedly have not been
12:17able to follow it as in-depth as I would
12:19like to. However, Amy, who is here
12:21joining me again today, has been all
12:24over this case. And so, she actually
12:26Yeah, she's been all over this case. She
12:28knows every single detail. So, I'm
12:30excited that Amy is here to explain to
12:31all of us what is actually going on with
12:34the Anna Kempner case. I know you hate
12:37cruises as it is. This probably is one
12:38more reason to hate a cruise, but
12:40honestly, and we just got the invitation
12:42to crime cruise.
12:43>> Not happening.
12:45Not happening.
12:45>> Like, wait a second.
12:46>> No, no, thank you.
12:48>> Well, happy Thanksgiving. Happy
12:49Thanksgiving to you. I can't believe
12:50it's already almost Christmas.
12:51>> Honestly, I mean, like I said last week,
12:53it's felt like Christmas for a while
12:55now.
12:55>> It is. I know Emmy still is asking me
12:57every day if it's Christmas, but it's
12:59fine.
12:59>> Okay. Yeah. So, as Annie said, this next
13:01case was one that I saw first come up on
13:04social media and just piqu my interest
13:06and I sent it over to the team and was
13:08like, I don't even know if there's
13:10enough information yet, but let's keep
13:11our eyes on this one. But now it's one
13:14that's everywhere lately. And the more
13:16you look at it, it just becomes more and
13:18more unsettling. So, as Annie said, I'm
13:21not really a cruise person. So, for me,
13:23this is even extra scary. But imagine
13:25this. You're on a cruise ship. You're in
13:27the middle of the ocean. There's
13:29thousands of people around you. Security
13:31everywhere. There's cameras. And really,
13:34it's the kind of environment where you
13:36would normally feel super safe because
13:38realistically, where could you even go?
13:40You're surrounded by water. But then
13:42someone vanishes and they don't fall
13:44overboard. They don't get left
13:46somewhere. They just disappear inside
13:49the ship itself inside a tiny cabin,
13:51which is honestly kind of giving Amy
13:53Bradley is missing vibes. But in this
13:56case, when they were finally found, they
13:59were not okay. They were not even alive.
14:01They had been hidden under a bed,
14:03wrapped in a blanket, and covered by
14:05life jackets. And that was the scene
14:07that investigators walked into on the
14:09Carnival Horizon on November 8th, just a
14:12few weeks ago. And at the center of the
14:14scene was an 18-year-old girl named Anna
14:17Kempner. She was from Titusville,
14:19Florida, attended Temple Christian High
14:21School, and was expected to graduate
14:23just this next May. She had plans to
14:25join the Navy. And now that dream of
14:28hers just wasn't going to come true, cuz
14:30all of that came to a screeching halt on
14:32this cruise. And this wasn't just a solo
14:34trip. This was supposed to be this happy
14:37blended family vacation. In fact, it was
14:40supposed to be a nice little getaway for
14:42everyone and possibly something they
14:44wanted to make a family tradition going
14:46forward. So, Anna was on the cruise ship
14:48with her grandparents, her father, her
14:50stepmother, and all of her siblings and
14:52step siblings. They had had three
14:54stateaterooms booked on the Carnival
14:56Horizon that left for Miami and was
14:58traveling the Caribbean for 7 days. And
15:00by her grandparents account, the whole
15:02family was very close. And there was
15:04really no such thing as step siblings.
15:06They were all just very close and had, I
15:09think, what they later described as two
15:10peas in a pod type dynamic. And Anna
15:14wasn't staying in the cabin alone. The
15:15three teenagers had decided to stay
15:17together. As I said earlier, they had
15:19only booked those three estate rooms.
15:22So, she was sharing a room with her
15:2316-year-old stepbrother and another
15:25teenage sibling. and their grandparents
15:28had said that at any time if they
15:29weren't getting along or if they wanted
15:31to stay apart from each other that there
15:34was an extra room in their room that
15:35they were welcome to. Now, it's not
15:37clear where the third sibling was
15:39staying in the night that Anna was
15:40killed, but we do know that her
15:42stepbrother was still staying in their
15:44room and that only the family had access
15:46to that room, nobody else. So when you
15:48hear that detail, the story shifts quite
15:51a bit because when something happens in
15:53a locked and enclosed space that only a
15:56few people had access to, the circle of
15:58possible answers gets very small very
16:01fast. And the last night Anna was seen
16:03by her grandparents, she had said that
16:06she reportedly wasn't feeling well. At
16:08first she was complaining of pain from
16:09her braces, then she wasn't feeling
16:11well. So she went back to her room, but
16:13then reportedly started feeling better
16:15because she came down to the casino. She
16:17was interacting with the family, kind of
16:18was bouncing around, checking in and
16:20out, and nothing really seemed off until
16:23the next morning, her grandfather
16:25Jeffrey was buying bingo cards and heard
16:28this medical alert come over the
16:30loudspeaker, recognizing the room number
16:33and panicked. So, he raced to the cabin
16:35where he was met by Anna's father, who
16:37had confirmed she was in fact deceased.
16:40Apparently, a room attendant had found
16:42Anna's body, quote, concealed under a
16:44blanket. Now, this happened in
16:46international waters. And when things
16:48happen in the middle of the ocean,
16:50everything becomes more complicated.
16:52Local police don't just step in. Federal
16:54agencies become involved. And so, the
16:57jurisdiction gets kind of messy and the
16:59investigation sometimes gets a bit
17:01delayed because evidence is harder to
17:03access. Surveillance and key card data
17:06needs to be preserved and everything
17:07just reviewed very, very carefully. So
17:10suddenly what kind of seemed like maybe
17:12a straightforward investigation became
17:14more slow and more serious and really
17:17there were no updates until now. Once
17:20the FBI in Miami got involved, more and
17:22more details started coming out, which
17:24is kind of what we saw this week. And
17:26not only did the case become more
17:28complicated, but it also was a lot more
17:30uncomfortable because according to
17:32multiple reports and court- rellated
17:34filings, Anna's stepbrother, the same
17:36one sharing the cabin with her, became
17:38someone investigators were paying very
17:40close attention to. Reports say that
17:42Anna's younger brother told her
17:44ex-boyfriend that he heard yelling and
17:45chairs being thrown in the room the
17:47night before she was found. He said that
17:49their stepbrother was yelling, quote,
17:51"Shut the hell up," and stuff like that.
17:53The ex-boyfriend also told reporters
17:55that Anna had been sexually harassed by
17:57her stepbrother in the past, but she had
17:59always kept quiet because she feared for
18:01her safety. He said that Anna quote
18:03didn't feel safe around her stepbrother.
18:05And then another detail surfaced. And
18:08last week, reports came out that
18:09investigators believed Anna died due to
18:12affixiation involving pressure to her
18:14neck, possibly from a bar hold. She had
18:17bruises on her neck and everything
18:19indicated that she had been held in that
18:20position with pressure on her neck until
18:22she couldn't breathe anymore. So that
18:25alone changed the tone of the case
18:26because now they could definitely
18:28classify this one as a murder. Their
18:30grandmother had stated in her interview
18:32that the stepson was quote an emotional
18:35mess. He couldn't even speak. He
18:37couldn't believe what had happened. And
18:39get this, shortly after the ship docked,
18:41reports said that the stepbrother was
18:43officially being looked at as a suspect.
18:45Not only that, but he was also
18:47hospitalized. And yet, there hasn't been
18:49any clear public explanation as to why.
18:52But that silence has fueled a lot of
18:54speculation. But to be very clear, there
18:56have been no criminal charges that have
18:58been publicly confirmed. But this all
19:01has been enough to raise some serious
19:02questions. Obviously, if it was the
19:05stepbrother that did this, was he
19:07injured? Did he have some sort of
19:10psychological break? Was that the reason
19:11for why he was acting that way shortly
19:13after? or was this something else? Now
19:16that his name's connected to the case,
19:18the speculation just has become very
19:20dark. Another question that keeps coming
19:22up, when something happened in that
19:23cabin, did it start as a planned attack?
19:26Many people believe it may have started
19:28as something smaller, maybe an argument,
19:30a confrontation, a moment that spiraled,
19:33but others have said there may have been
19:34some kind of fixation or obsession that
19:36the stepbrother had, which kind of goes
19:38along with what the ex-boyfriend said,
19:40and that maybe he planned to do this,
19:42that he knew they would be alone in the
19:44room, and that it was a perfect
19:45opportunity to carry out this horrifying
19:47act. But again, I mean, there's no proof
19:49of that, but the fact that people are
19:51even asking those questions shows just
19:54how unsettling this is. And Anna's
19:56family is absolutely devastated. Her
19:58father, Christopher, has said that he
20:00hasn't even been given any clear answers
20:02from the investigators. He's basically
20:04been left in the dark about the entire
20:06situation. But get this, while there's
20:08been tons of speculation about the
20:10stepbrother, there's now also been talk
20:12about her father. But again, this is all
20:14just speculation. But there have been
20:16claims that he has a troubling past,
20:19including an inappropriate relationship
20:21with their 15-year-old babysitter in the
20:23mid 2000s. So once this came out,
20:26naturally the question started stacking
20:28up against Christopher, too. There are
20:30people out there who believe that he may
20:31know more about what he's admitting to
20:33or may be involved in some sort of a
20:35cover up or may have even had a role in
20:38Anna's death himself. And maybe that's
20:40potentially why he's not getting much
20:42information from the FBI. And now Anna's
20:45grandparents are speaking out, telling
20:47everything they know just to make things
20:49more clear. According to them, the
20:51stepbrother was the only person seen
20:52entering and exiting the cabin that
20:54night Anna died. So, the assumption
20:56would be that he did do something to
20:58her. But they also said that Anna and
21:00her stepbrother had a great relationship
21:02by all appearances. Kind of going back
21:04to what I said earlier, two peas in a
21:06pod. So, nobody would expect him or
21:09really anyone to do something to such a
21:11bright and kind person like Anna.
21:14>> Do you think he had anything to do with
21:16Anna's death? I mean, he was in a room
21:19with her. He was the only one seen
21:21coming and going. So,
21:24I can't I can't accuse him because I
21:26don't know what happened in that room.
21:28But the summation would be that that he
21:31did something. And has he said anything
21:33to you about what happened?
21:35>> I heard him in his own words say he does
21:39not remember what happened.
21:40>> Anna's grandmother says she sat in on a
21:42portion of the stepbrother's interview
21:44with the FBI. He was an emotional mess.
21:48He couldn't even speak.
21:51He couldn't believe what had happened.
21:53>> And his grandparents say she and her
21:55stepbrother were close.
21:56>> They were just like brother and sister.
21:58>> What else could you tell me about him?
22:00>> That he was a good student. Um
22:03>> played soccer.
22:04>> He played soccer. Very quiet young man.
22:07He had demons I think in his past and he
22:11was trying to deal with those. and his
22:13stepbrother has not been arrested or
22:14charged with the crime. Attorneys for
22:16both the stepbrother's parents did not
22:18respond to ABC's request for comment.
22:20The FBI and medical examiner's office
22:23also declined to comment.
22:24>> So, I know that's a lot. We're still
22:27getting the information as it comes in,
22:28and I would imagine that we're going to
22:30follow this one closely and potentially
22:32even do a deep dive on this one in the
22:35future.
22:36>> It's interesting, too, and I I think
22:38you're right. I think we will do a deep
22:39dive on this because I don't know again
22:41all the nuances but from the things that
22:43I have seen there's also a pretty
22:47interesting and alarming history with
22:49her mom and I saw something where her
22:51mom was like wearing a disguise to
22:53something. I think it was like a court
22:54appearance or something like that. to me
22:57when I first heard about this,
22:58especially the bar hold against her and
23:01the
23:02I don't want to say outcries, but the
23:06her boyfriend saying that she had had
23:08past situations with her stepbrother
23:10where he was like fixated on her and
23:11obsessed. I was like, "Oh, this must
23:13have been a sex that went too far." But
23:16to from everything I've seen, there was
23:18no indication that any sort of sexual
23:20activity took place that night. And so I
23:22don't know if it was like an attempt or
23:24not or if it was like to your point
23:26something that just started to spiral,
23:27but like there's a lot more I think that
23:30goes into this between the dad, the mom,
23:32the stepbrother to where I feel like we
23:34definitely will need to do a deep
23:35>> and I also thought like I'm thinking
23:37Carnival cruise, everyone is highly
23:39intoxicated, but there was no evidence
23:41of that either. So I was Yeah, I was
23:44kind of thinking that too. And just by
23:45his reaction when he got off the ship
23:47and just after it happened and being
23:49just so worked up over it and visibly
23:52upset for me it doesn't sound like it
23:54was a planned attack. But I mean
23:56obviously we'll find out but OB and she
23:58kept going back and forth to the room
24:00saying she wasn't feeling well. There
24:01was even a report that her braces were
24:03painful that night and so she had kind
24:05of been excusing herself. So I'm not
24:08sure if necessarily like it could have
24:09been a planned attack versus just maybe
24:11an opportunity came up.
24:14>> I don't know. I mean, it'll be
24:15interesting, too, if they do a talks
24:17report on her, which I would imagine
24:18they would. And if they haven't, if that
24:20hasn't already come back at the time of
24:21this recording, I will say, even though
24:24Carnival cruises are required 21 and
24:26older to drink, it is so easy to get to
24:30not only drink on board, but to bring
24:32booze on board. I have done one Carnival
24:34cruise in my life. I was 21 years old at
24:36the time, but you can bring they allow
24:38you a certain amount of like sodas or
24:40like liters of soda. And so we
24:45honestly I know and it's so
24:46embarrassing. My loser ex-boyfriend like
24:48watched this whole YouTube video of how
24:50you can get the cap off through like I
24:52think it's like boiling water and then
24:53you can reseal it. So like we filled one
24:55with vodka sprite in a Seven Up bottle
24:57and like I think we had like four of
24:59those between like our friends and like
25:02it be just because we were cheap and
25:03didn't want to buy booze on the cruise.
25:05So, it's like it's not unthinkable to
25:07think not only that they could have had
25:08access potentially to alcohol while on
25:10the ship, but could have brought stuff
25:12in, too. So, I think the talks report
25:14will answer that.
25:15>> Yeah.
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28:28Okay, so this next case is coming out of
28:30Kansas City, Kansas, and the details are
28:33still unfolding, but what we know now so
28:35far, it is pretty disturbing. In the
28:37early morning hours of November 1st,
28:40police were called to a home after
28:41neighbors had reported gunfire. Now,
28:43when the officers arrived, they found
28:4520-year-old Anna Warz on the front
28:47porch. She had been shot in the lower
28:49back. She was rushed to the hospital,
28:52but unfortunately, she did not survive.
28:54And very quickly, the investigators
28:56realized that this was not random at
28:59all. According to court documents, Anna
29:01had been in a relationship with a man
29:03named Kevin Calamako Morales. And in the
29:06minutes minutes leading up to the
29:08shooting, her phone tells a very intense
29:11story. The investigators say that she
29:13received 18 phone calls in just 2
29:16minutes. All from a phone number that
29:19was tied back to Kevin, which 18 calls
29:21in 2 minutes? I don't even know how
29:23that's physically possible. It's like
29:25unhinged. But let's continue. So, after
29:27some investigation, surveillance cameras
29:29in the area showed a vehicle pulling up
29:31to the home just before the shots were
29:33fired. Then this vehicle left shortly
29:36after. Shell casings were also found and
29:39bullet damage was visible on the home.
29:41And then what started to emerge was a
29:44timeline that felt deeply, deeply
29:46personal. According to reports, one
29:49witness was heard telling the police at
29:51the scene, quote, "It must have been her
29:53crazy boyfriend." Then they started
29:56going through her messages.
29:57Investigators say that Kevin allegedly
30:00sent Anna multiple messages after the
30:01shooting, including one that read,
30:03quote, "You dead ass," which kind of
30:06means like, "Are you for real?" But
30:07that's like new hipster. Uh, not even
30:09hipster, but I guess you could say Gen Z
30:11language. But those words are what was
30:14reportedly directly in these court
30:15documents, too. So, yeah, he said, "You
30:17deadass question mark." Now, friends of
30:19hers also spoke with investigators, and
30:21according to the affidavit, she had told
30:23people close to her that Kevin was super
30:26controlling. also that he always wanted
30:28to know where she was, what she was
30:29doing, who she was with. So much so that
30:32if he didn't know where she was going or
30:34if he didn't like where she was going or
30:37who she was going to be with, then he
30:39wouldn't let her go. So, all of this
30:41painted a very clear picture of what
30:43happened and eventually charges were
30:45filed. So, Kevin has now been charged
30:47with first-degree murder and criminal
30:49discharge of a firearm. And right now,
30:52investigators aren't just looking at
30:53what had happened that night, but also
30:56what led up to that night. They're
30:58building a full timeline that is rooted
31:00in surveillance footage, message logs,
31:02witness accounts, and of course,
31:04forensic evidence. So, they're really
31:06just trying to piece together everything
31:07that led up to the moment that she was
31:09shot and lost her life. So, this case,
31:12like I said, is very much still active.
31:14It might be a while before we know for
31:16sure what's going to happen with this,
31:18but definitely we'll keep an eye on
31:20everything and keep you updated. So,
31:23lots to go over. I feel like all of
31:24these cases are going to get deep dives
31:26at some point because there's just so
31:28much information that we can't all pack
31:30into this episode, but we will be
31:32following all of these cases very
31:34closely. So, thank you guys so much for
31:37tuning in. Happy Thanksgiving. Hope you
31:39guys are, you know, kneede in some
31:41mashed potatoes and stuffing and turkeys
31:43and doing all of the things. And as a
31:45reminder, we also have our Black Friday
31:47sale going on that's going through
31:48Monday. So merch annie.com and Patreon.
31:52patreon.com/anie.
31:54I hope you guys have a fantastic long
31:58holiday weekend and you are resting and
32:00relaxing. If you feel like you need way
32:02more stuff to fill your day because
32:04you're not used to these long weekends,
32:05I got you covered. Tomorrow we do have a
32:08new bonus episode that will be released
32:10both on Patreon and on the podcast
32:12through Apple. So, lots to get you
32:15through this long weekend. And if you
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32:19the Tend to Life podcast, you can go
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