Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg Testifies — Transcript

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1. 0:01this is Charlie from red blue talk my
2. 0:04channel is all about how politics and
3. 0:06government impact your own life it all
4. 0:08came together yesterday in Mark
5. 0:12Zuckerberg testimony in front of the
6. 0:14United States Senate
7. 0:15I want to peel back the layers of what's
8. 0:18going on here play back a little piece
9. 0:21of tape talk about what the senator said
10. 0:23Cambridge analytic he talked a lot about
11. 0:26the User Agreement I'm gonna give into
12. 0:28all that as well as some specific tips
13. 0:30on how you can improve your own Facebook
14. 0:33experience and make it a little bit more
15. 0:35manageable and and make yourself a
16. 0:38little bit less vulnerable to the misuse
17. 0:40of your personal habits and personal
18. 0:42information on the Internet
19. 0:43now interrelated to that I need to do a
20. 0:45little bit of business with America so
21. 0:48when you use the Internet you are
22. 0:51connecting to your internet service
23. 0:52providers network and the information
24. 0:55goes back and forth in the clear that
25. 0:56means it's not encrypted and anybody can
26. 0:58see where you're going on the internet
27. 1:00if they've got access to what's called a
28. 1:02DNS server your ISP maintains the system
29. 1:06that allows you to look up the names of
30. 1:08websites and it is in the clear folks
31. 1:10you need to get a VPN VPN stands for
32. 1:14virtual private network I've been
33. 1:16selling these kinds of products for 20
34. 1:18years that's how I know what I'm talking
35. 1:19about it is now at the point where every
36. 1:21single person connected to the Internet
37. 1:23needs their own personal VPN this
38. 1:26company called private Internet access
39. 1:27does a pretty good job their service is
40. 1:30about three bucks a month you can go to
41. 1:33private Internet access com slash red
42. 1:35blue tea and check it out and I would
43. 1:39appreciate it if you would do that I
44. 1:41think it's absolutely worth your while
45. 1:43now let's get into talking about Mark
46. 1:46Zuckerberg so let's play this short clip
47. 1:48and then we'll come back and discuss
48. 2:01no no it's funny so the guy speaking is
49. 2:32senator dick durbin and I think he
50. 2:34really boiled down the most essential
51. 2:36fact here which is when you use Facebook
52. 2:39you're providing Facebook which is a
53. 2:41company with access to a lot of data
54. 2:44about your use of the internet who
55. 2:47you're connecting with every time you
56. 2:49click like every time you make a comment
57. 2:51or you use a word in a comment or you
58. 2:53write a post of your own anything that
59. 2:56you do is is accessible and usable and
60. 3:00used by Facebook for a whole variety of
61. 3:03purposes but underlying at all
62. 3:05they sell ads that's how they make money
63. 3:07so one of the senators gave the specific
64. 3:10example where he was talking about
65. 3:14chocolate on Facebook and then he
66. 3:16started receiving ads related to
67. 3:18chocolate well turns out that Facebook
68. 3:21actually does give you a way to block
69. 3:22that but most people don't know about it
70. 3:24which comes across as kind of like well
71. 3:28we give you a way to know about this we
72. 3:31have a User Agreement that spells out
73. 3:33what we're going to do and it's up to
74. 3:35the end users to police themselves
75. 3:38the problem with that underlying theory
76. 3:41is that the whole thing has grown so
77. 3:43large nobody's reading those agreements
78. 3:45I've never read the User Agreement for
79. 3:47Facebook but I kind of know how stuff
80. 3:49works so I kind of take my own steps to
81. 3:51make sure that it's an experience that's
82. 3:53a little bit more bearable I also found
83. 3:56that generally even these older guys
84. 3:59like dick Durbin senator Amy Klobuchar
85. 4:04other that woman from California Kamala
86. 4:09Harris they looked pretty good asking
87. 4:12these questions I felt like their line
88. 4:14of questioning was was cogent and
89. 4:17thoughtful that it wasn't prosecutorial
90. 4:20who some of them are former prosecutors
91. 4:22and and most of them are attorneys but I
92. 4:24thought that this was a situation where
93. 4:26I was actually kind of proud that the US
94. 4:28Senate looked like they knew what they
95. 4:30were talking about and they looked good
96. 4:32because they're actually considering
97. 4:34regulating something that probably
98. 4:36should be regulated and and and and will
99. 4:38be regulated it isn't regulated more
100. 4:40heavily in other places what I did not
101. 4:45hear was any specific discussion of the
102. 4:49idea that this is immensely successful
103. 4:52company right I mean I mean Facebook is
104. 4:55just one of these incredible American
105. 4:58entrepreneurial success stories or
106. 5:00Zuckerberg has amassed and a net worth
107. 5:04of sixty-two billion dollars in another
108. 5:07in a different part of the world they
109. 5:08would call him an oligarch but here we
110. 5:10call him an entrepreneurial success or a
111. 5:12billionaire or whatever you want to call
112. 5:13him he's able to do that because America
113. 5:17provides a system that allows him to do
114. 5:20it right to collect people's personal
115. 5:22information and and and make a
116. 5:25commercial product out of it and it has
117. 5:28now grown to a point where it probably
118. 5:29does need to be regulated and I think
119. 5:31even Zuckerberg was willing to
120. 5:33acknowledge that what's what's going
121. 5:36about his testimony is that he
122. 5:40acknowledges that data has been misused
123. 5:43and it's like oh gee golly I run
124. 5:45Facebook and I'm responsible for it but
125. 5:47that's not going to absolve him of the
126. 5:49sin of allowing personal data for 70 78
127. 5:53million people to be misused and resold
128. 5:56and profited from so I don't know
129. 5:59exactly where this goes from here I I do
130. 6:01notice a couple of things about this
131. 6:03Cambridge analytic a thing which is it
132. 6:06really underscores that there is a bit
133. 6:09of a monopoly problem with Facebook
134. 6:11because it only works well if
135. 6:13everybody's on the system I've used
136. 6:16Facebook to to purchase ads
137. 6:18for local political campaigns I've used
138. 6:21Facebook to purchase ads to help recruit
139. 6:24students for a charter school I've used
140. 6:26Facebook for commercial purposes and I
141. 6:28found it very valuable and the reason
142. 6:30that it works so well is because you can
143. 6:33target really really specifically at a
144. 6:35fairly inexpensive price that only works
145. 6:39because so many people use the system it
146. 6:43is in essence kind of like a public
147. 6:45square so there have to be rules around
148. 6:48what you can do with the data that you
149. 6:49collect now
150. 6:52unfortunately one negative thing against
151. 6:55Zuckerberg is that he kept on leaning
152. 6:57back on this idea that well if he
153. 7:00doesn't know the answer I don't know the
154. 7:01answer but I'll have my team get back to
155. 7:03you I think I heard that one too many
156. 7:04times and I want to also heard one too
157. 7:06many times is this idea that there's a
158. 7:08User Agreement that covers this the User
159. 7:11Agreement is the biggest bunch of
160. 7:13baloney in the entire world we all click
161. 7:15on these user agreements frequently you
162. 7:17want to use a particular service you
163. 7:19want to use an online tool that lets you
164. 7:23create artwork so you go there and you
165. 7:27check it out and if you want to use it
166. 7:28you provide your username you create a
167. 7:30password and you click on a user
168. 7:32agreement that's probably 20 or 30
169. 7:34screens long some of them are even more
170. 7:36you click through to the bottom as fast
171. 7:38as you can and you click OK you don't
172. 7:40know what you're agreeing to but in many
173. 7:43cases you're agreeing to allow your data
174. 7:45to be resold and reused but here's the
175. 7:49the core detail that they left out where
176. 7:54you're really making the mistake is when
177. 7:56you use a service that uses
178. 7:58authentication by Facebook so in other
179. 8:01words login using my Facebook account if
180. 8:03you've ever seen that the moment that
181. 8:05you click on that you then authorize
182. 8:08that application to use the Facebook API
183. 8:12to gain access to other information let
184. 8:17me explain that in very simple terms
185. 8:18suppose I want to use some widget on the
186. 8:21internet some website that allows me to
187. 8:24create artwork and it says login using
188. 8:28Facebook the minute you click on that
189. 8:30thing you are
190. 8:32theorizing an API a little piece of
191. 8:34programming that allows that drawing
192. 8:37program to go out to Facebook and get
193. 8:40your identity information and any other
194. 8:42information that Facebook has collected
195. 8:44that is where I think the biggest
196. 8:46problem occurs and that's where the
197. 8:49problem was with Cambridge analytic oh
198. 8:51and what's sickening and inexcusable is
199. 8:53that Facebook knew this was going on for
200. 8:56years and they did nothing about it
201. 8:58and they believed that that Cambridge
202. 9:00analytical wasn't abusing the data said
203. 9:02well you told us that you got rid of all
204. 9:04the copies of the data you told us that
205. 9:06you're not misusing we believe you
206. 9:08everything's ok that's inexcusable and
207. 9:10that's why the boot of the US Senate is
208. 9:13on Zuckerberg snack right now now let's
209. 9:15talk about a couple of specific things
210. 9:17that you can do to make make Facebook a
211. 9:21little bit more bearable so check out
212. 9:23this screen right here if you go to the
213. 9:26top right corner of your Facebook page
214. 9:28which by the way Facebook is great on
215. 9:31mobile most of us are using it on a
216. 9:32mobile device and I'm all for that
217. 9:35not against it but once in a while you
218. 9:37got to log into Facebook using a regular
219. 9:39computer because it's much easier to
220. 9:41manipulate these very minut details
221. 9:44within the user interface so you click
222. 9:46on the right little triangle in the top
223. 9:48right corner of the Facebook screen and
224. 9:50you're gonna go to settings and then
225. 9:54after you go to settings you go to
226. 9:57something called apps and websites these
227. 10:01is it this is a list of other websites
228. 10:05that are allowing data access via
229. 10:10Facebook this is where Cambridge
230. 10:12analytical was getting your data from
231. 10:14okay so for example I've allowed Twitter
232. 10:17to access Facebook because when I post
233. 10:19something to Twitter I want to
234. 10:21automatically have it show up on
235. 10:22Facebook same for these other
236. 10:24applications now here's one called game
237. 10:26connect I don't know what the hell that
238. 10:28is
239. 10:28I don't remember when I authorized it I
240. 10:30probably did I don't remember I'm gonna
241. 10:33click on it and I'm gonna remove it boom
242. 10:36that's it I'm removing game Connect Bess
243. 10:39X whatever the hell that is
244. 10:40if you remove game connect it may delete
245. 10:43your game Connect account and activity
246. 10:45good I don't
247. 10:46I don't even remember setting it up also
248. 10:48delete all posts photos and videos that
249. 10:51Facebook on Facebook that game connect
250. 10:54best sex may have published on your
251. 10:55behalf yeah get rid of it
252. 10:56goodbye that's what you want to do okay
253. 11:00you want to get rid of all of the
254. 11:02interconnected apps and games active
255. 11:05websites and active apps that are
256. 11:08connecting using an API to Facebook to
257. 11:11access information on your account it's
258. 11:14what you want to get rid of all right
259. 11:15here's one more thing you can do one of
260. 11:17the senators alluded to you know he was
261. 11:20looking at chocolate on the on Facebook
262. 11:22and then he started getting ads for
263. 11:23chocolate here's how you can turn that
264. 11:25off there's in again you go to the
265. 11:28triangle and then you go to settings and
266. 11:31then once you're in settings you go to
267. 11:32add preferences and then in add
268. 11:35preferences it says let me make this big
269. 11:40enough for you to see the whole thing I
270. 11:41think you can see it there you go
271. 11:44so you go to add settings and it says
272. 11:47ads do you want to receive ads based on
273. 11:49your use of websites and apps can you
274. 11:52see online interest-based ads from
275. 11:55facebook you click now that's what you
276. 11:58got to do ads on web ads on apps and
277. 12:02websites off of Facebook companies I've
278. 12:04got it yes I'm not change at ten no how
279. 12:07do I change it you come down here if you
280. 12:10allow your Facebook preference add ad
281. 12:12preferences to be used you'll see ads
282. 12:13that are more interesting to you if you
283. 12:15don't allow your Facebook ad preferences
284. 12:18to be used you'll still see ads but they
285. 12:20won't be as relevant so you didn't
286. 12:22Zuckerberg made it sound like they're
287. 12:23doing the world some big favor by
288. 12:25shoving ads in front of you that are
289. 12:27related to words in posts that you've
290. 12:30made I don't agree with that so I'm
291. 12:32gonna click no and that's it and then
292. 12:34you come down here and and that's it
293. 12:37it's all set so those are a couple
294. 12:40things that you can do to privatise or
295. 12:43make at least I'll give you a little bit
296. 12:45more control over your user user
297. 12:47experience on Facebook Facebook is not
298. 12:50evil unto itself it only works if
299. 12:53there's a gigantic network effect where
300. 12:55billions of people participate in it
301. 12:57which makes the ad
302. 12:59marketplace very valuable but you got to
303. 13:02take a little bit of control over how
304. 13:04the thing works and and that really does
305. 13:06it ultimately it's going to depend on
306. 13:07the end user because the government can
307. 13:09only regulate it so much and as we can
308. 13:11see if you don't take control over it
309. 13:13Facebook will take control over you all
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