Explaining EVERY Fallacy in PowerScaling! (Through Mario) — Transcript
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- 0:00Oh my god. Is Flaky a power
- 0:03scaler? No. No. I used to do versus
- 0:06debates here and there. I used to do
- 0:09versus debates here and there, but some
- 0:11people can get so stupid I genuinely
- 0:13start tweaking. However, as a result, I
- 0:15would say I've become pretty well-versed
- 0:17in the art of combat debate. In fact,
- 0:19this video was originally going to be a
- 0:21response video to Six's Kachi versus the
- 0:23five Kag Summit video, but I really
- 0:25don't want to dip my knees in versus
- 0:27debates again and fear the tweet comes
- 0:29back. So instead, I thought of this.
- 0:30Fallacies are as they sound. They are
- 0:32arguments used in debates that are
- 0:34either dishonest or underhanded in
- 0:35certain areas, often trying to force or
- 0:37corner someone into agreeing with you
- 0:39instead of actually trying to trade
- 0:40numbers to see who's the most accurate.
- 0:42Surprisingly, there isn't a lot of
- 0:43videos talking about every fallacy in
- 0:45power scaling. In fact, the only one I
- 0:48could find was this video talking about
- 0:49just five of them, which fun fact, there
- 0:52isn't five, there's 50. Most of this
- 0:55should be common sense, but I've seen so
- 0:56many genuinely brain deadad people on
- 0:58Twitter that I feel the need to go in
- 1:00depth on even the most basic of these
- 1:02fallacies. And I'm going to be using
- 1:03Mario as a reference point for that cuz
- 1:05that's some more fun. I'll be using
- 1:07Versus Battle Wiki as a reference for
- 1:08it. If there are any more I'm missing,
- 1:10do let me know in the
- 1:13comments. Let's say I'm trying to debate
- 1:15with you who is faster, Mario or
- 1:19Pikachu. I try to tell you that Mario is
- 1:21faster than Pikachu because he has light
- 1:23level reaction. If your response to that
- 1:25is Mario's not light speed cuz you are
- 1:27dumb or there is no way you actually are
- 1:30smart enough to say that,
- 1:31congratulations. You are a user of the
- 1:33most overused and dumbest fallacy in all
- 1:36of debating. Ad homonym. Ad hom is when
- 1:38you try to value someone's points not by
- 1:40disproving the points but in trying to
- 1:43devalue the person. I cannot explain to
- 1:45you the amount of comments I would find
- 1:47on any video. Simply put, it does
- 1:49nothing for the debate. Properly
- 1:50logically disprove the notions first and
- 1:53foremost. Otherwise, a proper debate
- 1:55session will turn into a contest
- 1:56in a matter of seconds. Better argument
- 1:58would have been something like, "No,
- 2:00Mario shouldn't be because most of his
- 2:01showings are mock speed and stuff like
- 2:03that." Hey man, I'm just saying Mario
- 2:05can't throw a punch like Kratos can.
- 2:07What the heck? Kratos is not universal.
- 2:09Oh, look at that. Another fallacy. This
- 2:12fallacy is called the straw man. Straw
- 2:14man is when you take an argument and
- 2:15decide to completely exaggerate what is
- 2:18being said here and as a result
- 2:19completely ignore the entire point of
- 2:21the statement. Straw mans are usually
- 2:22hard to spot in a debate. But if you
- 2:24notice a weird leap in logic or an
- 2:26attempt to try twisting or corrupting
- 2:27your words, that is usually straw man
- 2:29tactics and is a fallacy as it doesn't
- 2:31properly try to address the argument you
- 2:34might be trying to make. Hey, I think
- 2:36Mario is universal. Want to know why?
- 2:38Cuz nothing said he can't be. I love
- 2:40this one because it's the funniest
- 2:41argument I'll hear out of people
- 2:43sometimes. Burden of proof is when you
- 2:45make a statement and claim it's true by
- 2:47saying there's a lack of evidence to
- 2:49prove it false. This becomes a fallacy
- 2:51because you don't have proof that it's
- 2:53true anyway, so cancels itself out.
- 2:55Funniest thing, I see this argument with
- 2:57Sonic.exe a lot. Prove to me that he
- 2:59isn't universal without giving proof
- 3:00that he is universal. You really can't
- 3:02argue with stupid, can you? Appeal the
- 3:04motive is when you once again try to
- 3:05disprove sentiments not by devaluing a
- 3:08statement but by devaluing a person
- 3:09instead. However, instead of throwing an
- 3:11insult, you just question their motives.
- 3:13This happens a whole lot in the Mario
- 3:15versus Sonic debates I see where instead
- 3:17of trying to debate points out, you
- 3:18might hear a conversation go like,
- 3:20"Sonic is so much faster than Mario and
- 3:22Mario doesn't have ways to counter Super
- 3:24Form when his star runs out." Wow. This
- 3:26does nothing. It actually does nothing.
- 3:28What did you prove in saying that?
- 3:30Nothing was disproven in saying that.
- 3:32Appeal to popularity. I love this one
- 3:34cuz this is literally everyone. How many
- 3:36polls have you seen of who would win in
- 3:37a fight and the poll always goes to the
- 3:39more popular character? Unfortunately,
- 3:41saying that one character is more
- 3:43successful than another is not a power
- 3:45statement. Crazy, right? This applies
- 3:47for general sentiments, too. Just
- 3:48because the general public agrees that
- 3:50one character should win doesn't
- 3:52necessarily mean that it's correct and
- 3:54that it's a valid argument that you can
- 3:55use. Everything needs to be based in
- 3:57logic when it comes to debates. Mario
- 3:59should be stronger than Link cuz Mario
- 4:01characters are stronger than Zelda
- 4:03characters. You can see where the
- 4:04problem is, right? Circular reasoning is
- 4:06when your assumed argument is based on
- 4:08another assumed argument. Both of these
- 4:10are statements without proof provided.
- 4:12But because the second statement is
- 4:14acting as proof for the first, you are
- 4:16made to think that the sentiment is
- 4:17true. But you cannot make an argument
- 4:19like this unless you have proven that
- 4:21argument beforehand. Otherwise, it's
- 4:23circular reasoning. Nonsequittor.
- 4:26Nonsequator is when you use a fact as
- 4:29proof of something that just doesn't
- 4:30pertain to the argument. If I told you
- 4:32that Mario can jump really high and then
- 4:34say because of that he's building level
- 4:35strength, you might think I'm an actual
- 4:37idiot and I would be. A similar argument
- 4:39would be Goku can create after images
- 4:41and is therefore speed of light. Just
- 4:43because there's some loose connection to
- 4:45the argument does not mean the argument
- 4:46is suddenly proven. They would either
- 4:48require more explanation or it just
- 4:50doesn't work.
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- 4:52Red. This is when you try to rebuttal
- 4:55against a statement, but a point
- 4:56completely unrelated to that statement.
- 4:58Mario has to be faster and light cuz he
- 5:00can dodge lightning from Kleta. Okay.
- 5:02Yeah, but he never actually beat Kletto
- 5:04on his own. Both statements are
- 5:06technically true, but statement two does
- 5:08not rebuke statement one. Association
- 5:10fallacy. Mario is able to lift a
- 5:12building, so a toad should be able to as
- 5:15well. Association fallacy is when you
- 5:17argue that a feat is possible because of
- 5:19a connection a person may have to
- 5:21another character with that feat. A
- 5:22simple connection is not enough of an
- 5:25argument to suggest this. You might have
- 5:27seen me use this fallacy in my 106
- 5:29Kakashi video here and there. In fact,
- 5:31argument from ignorance. This is a
- 5:33little bit tricky. It's similar to
- 5:34burden of proof in that you make a
- 5:36statement based on a lack of evidence.
- 5:38There has never been proof of anyone
- 5:40being faster than the Flash. He has to
- 5:41be the fastest person in all media. This
- 5:44can be troublesome as you can say
- 5:46something like this but still not be a
- 5:48fallacy. If you said there has never
- 5:50been proof of anyone being faster than
- 5:52the Flash so he might be the fastest all
- 5:54media wouldn't be a fallacy as you're
- 5:55just connecting a sentiment instead of
- 5:57trying to make a cold hard fact. But
- 5:59this is a jump in logic argument from
- 6:01incredility. I think I'm saying that
- 6:03correctly. This is an argument similar
- 6:05to ignorance but instead of it being
- 6:07based on a lack of evidence it's much
- 6:08rather not being able to believe
- 6:10presented evidence. Basically something
- 6:12like nah he's not that strong that don't
- 6:14feel right so he can't be that strong.
- 6:16It's clear to see why this argument
- 6:18doesn't work. It's not based in facts,
- 6:19but on personal emotion. It doesn't
- 6:21qualify as a debunking point just
- 6:23because you feel like something isn't
- 6:24right. Argument from belief. This is the
- 6:26flip side of argument from incredility.
- 6:28Where instead of choosing not to believe
- 6:29and presented evidence, you present your
- 6:31own belief as the proof. Mario's light
- 6:33speeded because I said so. It's the same
- 6:35reason of argument from incredility why
- 6:37this doesn't count as a discernable
- 6:39fact. It's your opinion, not an actual
- 6:41statement. Appeal to emotion. Another
- 6:44emotion-based fallacy. But appeal to
- 6:46emotion is basically when you try to use
- 6:47emotional tactics to force your opponent
- 6:49to think your way. Come on, you're a
- 6:51smart guy. You know I'm right. Or of
- 6:53course Mario can dodge bullets. He
- 6:54wouldn't really be a cartoon hero if he
- 6:56could. You know, this is based off some
- 6:58sort of sentimental arguments. Neither
- 7:00statement is proof. One is flattery and
- 7:02the other is wishful thinking. Appeal to
- 7:03tradition. This is when you try to argue
- 7:05that one character can beat another
- 7:07character because that's just how it has
- 7:09to be. Goku would solo all of Mario's
- 7:12friends. What makes you think Mario
- 7:13could beat him? You're trying to argue
- 7:15that because one way has to be true, the
- 7:17other way must be as well. One thing can
- 7:19be true on his own, but doesn't
- 7:20necessarily have to be true for others.
- 7:22The arguments can work in reverse, too.
- 7:24Sonic always beats Hercule, so he
- 7:25definitely can beat Goku. Equavocation.
- 7:27This is the One Punch Man argument. This
- 7:29is the argument that basically says, if
- 7:31you can interpret something this way,
- 7:32that way has to be true. The strongest
- 7:34version of this argument is Saitama
- 7:36would literally beat everyone because he
- 7:38can beat everyone in one punch simply
- 7:40based on the fact that he's called One
- 7:42Punch Man. Similar arguments are Sonic
- 7:44is only speed of sound because Sonic
- 7:46means sound or Vegeta's Big Bang attack
- 7:48has to be universal because the Big Bang
- 7:50created the universe. No limits fallacy.
- 7:53No limits fallacy is essentially this
- 7:55ability hasn't shown a limit, so there
- 7:57isn't one. There's no way to prove an
- 7:59ability with no known limit even has a
- 8:01limit. Examples are Sonic has infinite
- 8:04speed because we have never seen his
- 8:05speed get pushed to the limit. Itachi
- 8:07said that only a manga Kyosharing can
- 8:09beat him. That means every universe
- 8:11would lose cuz no one has that.
- 8:13Everything has an explanation and
- 8:15everything should have a limit unless
- 8:16stated otherwise. Undistributed middle.
- 8:19This is when you misuse the transitive
- 8:21property. If feet A implies feed B and
- 8:23feed B implies feed C, then feet C
- 8:27should imply feed A. This is very
- 8:29similar to how all thumbs are fingers
- 8:31but not all fingers are thumbs. Just
- 8:33because every thumb is a finger doesn't
- 8:34mean the reverse is true. Not all
- 8:36fingers are going to be thumbs.
- 8:37Similarly, if you make a statement like
- 8:39every omnipotent being is a god, then
- 8:41the sage of six paths is omnipotent.
- 8:43This is undistributed middle fallacy
- 8:45fallacy. Fallacy fallacy is a warning to
- 8:48anyone who uses this list to their
- 8:50advantage. These fallacies are there to
- 8:52be called out so that when your opponent
- 8:54uses said fallacy that they can rethink
- 8:56their strategy. You cannot by any means
- 8:59use the fact that they are using a
- 9:01fallacy to imply that you are right in
- 9:03this debate. Just like your opponent,
- 9:05you need to apply logic too. You can't
- 9:07cheat it by exclaiming minor spelling
- 9:09mistake. I win. Argument from anecdotal
- 9:12evidence. This is when you try to imply
- 9:14your proof by telling a story. A story
- 9:16that can't be confirmed or denied.
- 9:18Because we can't prove your evidence in
- 9:20this story, we won't agree with you as a
- 9:23result. Biggest argument often uses with
- 9:25Madra versus Itachi where people will
- 9:27randomly say Kishimoto once said that he
- 9:29had to kill Itachi because he would have
- 9:31beaten Ma. There is no proof that he has
- 9:33said that to anybody and you can't use
- 9:35that as an argument. Proof by example.
- 9:38Basically, this is when you do provide
- 9:39proof of something, but then use that
- 9:41proof to speak generally. Reverse Flash
- 9:44can't be that fast because he's been
- 9:45tagged by Batman who's slow. Therefore,
- 9:48anyone of Batman's speed is enough to
- 9:50hurt Reverse Flash. This statement
- 9:52ignores the possibility of this being a
- 9:54statistical anomaly and not held true
- 9:56all the time. You need to prove that
- 9:58your example is not an anomaly and
- 10:00there's a clear discerning explanation
- 10:02or proof to these things. You'll see
- 10:04this argument be used all the time with
- 10:06tune force characters like Bugs Bunny or
- 10:08even Mario where because they'll have
- 10:09moments where something as simple as a
- 10:11hammer is able to destroy them
- 10:12apparently completely rebukes all the
- 10:14times they've been so above those
- 10:16leagues. You have to naturally assume
- 10:18these characters are at their best
- 10:20affirming the consequence. This happens
- 10:22when you use a premise to prove a
- 10:24conclusion. when you're supposed to use
- 10:26a conclusion to prove the premise.
- 10:28People who can jump 100 meters in the
- 10:30air should have building level strength
- 10:32in their legs. Since Mario has done that
- 10:34before, he has to be building level.
- 10:36Simply saying a statement like this
- 10:37should come with proof that it works
- 10:39like this in the Mario world. Denying
- 10:41the anticidence. This is the opposite of
- 10:43affirming the consequence where you use
- 10:45a premise to prove a conclusion and use
- 10:47that to say they don't follow this
- 10:48premise, therefore they don't follow
- 10:50this conclusion. They are both quite
- 10:51similar to nonsequittors. Bias sample.
- 10:54bias sample is similar to appeal to
- 10:56popularity, except you use some
- 10:57well-known person's thought about a
- 10:59fight as proof of who would win. The
- 11:00Mario example of this is Mario would
- 11:03beat Sonic in a fight because Death
- 11:04Battle says so. Death Battle is not the
- 11:07only source, and one could argue that
- 11:09they have a bias against Sonic due to
- 11:10how many death battles the franchise
- 11:12have lost. Like it's been repeated time
- 11:14and again in this video, you have to
- 11:16prove your own proof and research and
- 11:18not to rely on sentiments or bias
- 11:19samples to work with. This could be more
- 11:21finicky, too. Say you have a vote for
- 11:23who's in agreement on durability, Mario
- 11:25or Sonic. If this vote was done in a
- 11:27Sonic specific YouTube channel, of
- 11:29course, Sonic would get the winning
- 11:30agreements and vice versa. Halftruth.
- 11:33This is when someone provides proof and
- 11:34evidence but leaves out crucial
- 11:36information to prove their points.
- 11:38Consider this a lie of omission where
- 11:40you say something like, "Mario was able
- 11:42to beat Cullex. Therefore, Kulix can be
- 11:44beaten by anyone on Mario's level." This
- 11:46is a halftruth as beating didn't just
- 11:49take Mario. It took two other people to
- 11:51do it. Maybe five totally if you're
- 11:53looking at a more lore perspective of
- 11:55it. Hasty generalization. This can
- 11:57overlap with proof by example. A lot of
- 11:59these fallacies can overlap actually
- 12:01where you don't get enough evidence to
- 12:02prove the conclusion you're trying to
- 12:04make. Mario has been beaten by regular
- 12:06enemies. Therefore, even a toad can beat
- 12:08Mario in a fight. This ignores all the
- 12:10times where this wasn't true and is a
- 12:12hastily made conclusion. Misleading
- 12:15vividness. is almost exactly proof by
- 12:17example, but instead of just giving the
- 12:19example, they just give a lot of detail
- 12:21to the example. So, back to my original
- 12:23proof by example. Reverse Flash isn't
- 12:25fast. He's been tagged by Batman, who
- 12:27was able to stab him in the foot, so
- 12:29anyone of Batman's speed can tag him.
- 12:31The details don't prove anything, but
- 12:33it's there to try and convince you.
- 12:35Package deal. People think this is
- 12:37transitive property again, but it isn't.
- 12:39A is true. A is associated with B, so B
- 12:41is true. Mario can move faster in light
- 12:43and airgo can travel through time.
- 12:45Because going faster and light and time
- 12:47travel are tied, one can make this
- 12:49argument, but you have no idea how time
- 12:51travel works in the Mario world. And
- 12:52there's no proof of this. False
- 12:54dichotomy. This is when you say that
- 12:56given some options, only one is true to
- 12:58prove your point. When Bowser shot a
- 13:00fireball at Mario, Mario had two
- 13:02options. Either he was fast enough to
- 13:03jump out of the way or block it. This
- 13:05doesn't work as it removes the
- 13:07possibility of other options. Namely,
- 13:09what if Mario saw Bowser build up for
- 13:12the attack and just prepared his
- 13:13defenses beforehand? False dichotomy
- 13:15forces you to think a certain way
- 13:16without keeping an open mind to other
- 13:18potential openings. Correlation implies
- 13:21causation. Event A is associated with
- 13:24event B. Therefore, event A causes event
- 13:27B. When Mario is in the dream world and
- 13:29he fused with Luigi, Mario's stat is the
- 13:32combination of his and Luigi. Therefore,
- 13:34anyone who fuses with Mario in the dream
- 13:36dimension will give Mario a similar
- 13:38buff. This leaves out the possibility
- 13:40that's different other times, like how
- 13:41Antasma enters Mario, but doesn't give
- 13:44Mario any of his stats. Post Hawk. Post
- 13:46Hawk is when you believe that because
- 13:48two events happened one right after the
- 13:50other, that the events had to have been
- 13:52caused by the other. So, for a dumb
- 13:54example, Mario had no sleeves when he
- 13:56beat Shadow Mario. Therefore, Mario
- 13:58having no sleeves gave him enough power
- 14:00to beat him. The counterargument to post
- 14:02talk is that it ignores any other
- 14:04explanation for Mario being able to win.
- 14:06In this
- 14:10[Music]
- 14:11case, poisoning the well. Similar to ad
- 14:14homonym, but instead of trying to insult
- 14:16your opponent directly, you devalue him
- 14:18in front of the audience or judges and
- 14:20try to make him appear invalid for the
- 14:22argument. Your honor, my opponent is a
- 14:24stinky Sonic fan. He won't speak the
- 14:26Mario name correctly and will say Sonic
- 14:28beats Mario. He shouldn't be trusted.
- 14:30Obviously, the only truly stinky person
- 14:33is you. Fallacy of accident. Somebody
- 14:35tells you a general rule to justify
- 14:37something when there could exist
- 14:39exceptions or the rule itself is an
- 14:41exception. In a fight, the faster
- 14:42character usually wins. Mario can move
- 14:45faster than Sonic by using a warp pipe.
- 14:47Therefore, he will win. Not only is the
- 14:49faster character thing come with
- 14:50possible exceptions, warp pipe is a
- 14:52unique exception to the count of
- 14:54teleportation and can't actually count
- 14:56in a speed debate.
- 14:58Ooh, this is a variation of ad hominant
- 15:01where an argument gets dismissed by
- 15:02devaluing the person's practices rather
- 15:05than their arguments. Mario has never
- 15:07stated to be able to jump over 100
- 15:08blocks. That's a lie. Well, you lied
- 15:11when you said Sonic was stated to outrun
- 15:13a black hole. You need to give proof.
- 15:15Discrediting the person in question
- 15:17doesn't add or help your case. Loaded
- 15:19question. This is when a person gives
- 15:20you rhetorical gotcha question that
- 15:22makes it regardless of a yes or no
- 15:24answer, you won't win. Are you still
- 15:26making that stupid claim? Saying yes
- 15:28admits that it's a stupid claim. Saying
- 15:30no admits that it's a stupid claim.
- 15:33Fallacy of composition. Basically, if a
- 15:35person say that A is true, then anything
- 15:37larger than A is also true. Mario can
- 15:39beat Pikachu, therefore he can beat the
- 15:41entire Pokemon verse. Argumentum
- 15:44adverbosium. This is when someone tries
- 15:46to prove their claim by sending what's
- 15:48essentially a twit longer. But said twit
- 15:50longer is repetitive and doesn't come
- 15:52with any strong evidence. The purpose of
- 15:53this is usually to try and exhaust your
- 15:55opponent with constant yapping, constant
- 15:57beating around the bush. Figure of
- 15:58speech is when you take a saying or
- 16:00figure of speech literally, like when
- 16:02there exists a statement like Mario's
- 16:04reaction is godlike, therefore he is a
- 16:06god. Godlike is often used as hyperbole
- 16:09or simply as a hype statement. Unless
- 16:10made clear, it doesn't usually mean that
- 16:13Mario has reactions of a proper god.
- 16:15Argentum adnauseium is probably the most
- 16:18toxic one where in spite of how many
- 16:20times you argue against someone's point,
- 16:22they just keep saying the same exact
- 16:24point as an argument with the intent to
- 16:27make you give up and concede out of
- 16:29sheer annoyance. I don't even want to
- 16:30give an example for this one. Golden
- 16:32mean fallacy. This is the idea that when
- 16:34given two opposing viewpoints that the
- 16:36correct viewpoint is somewhere in
- 16:38between. Essentially, it's when you make
- 16:39the argument of I think Mario beats
- 16:41Peashooter. You think Peashooter beats
- 16:43Mario. that must mean they are probably
- 16:45equal. This doesn't give credence to the
- 16:47possibility that one of these viewpoints
- 16:48is just not correct. Style over
- 16:50substance. This is the argument you give
- 16:52where you personally think one is
- 16:53stronger than the other just from how
- 16:54much more spectacle there is to them.
- 16:56This is very common and it's a pretty
- 16:58popular reason why so many characters
- 16:59would be thrown into versus debates just
- 17:01because of their flashy new style. It's
- 17:03like saying Sonic has after images and
- 17:05blurs whenever he moves. Mario doesn't.
- 17:07Therefore, Sonic has to be faster.
- 17:09Visual is artist's interpretation. A
- 17:11style. Just because one thing is drawn a
- 17:13certain way unlike another doesn't mean
- 17:15it's not of this certain way. False
- 17:17analogy. This is when you try to argue a
- 17:19point using an analogy, but the analogy
- 17:22doesn't work. It's like saying Mario
- 17:24versus Flash the same as trying to swat
- 17:26a fly. Yeah, the fly is fast and hard to
- 17:28get, but you'll eventually get them. It
- 17:30goes without saying that a fly is far
- 17:32far weaker than a person, which may not
- 17:35apply to this debate whatsoever.
- 17:36Analogies need to be more on the nose
- 17:38than this faulty premise. This is
- 17:40similar to affirming the consequence,
- 17:42but this time instead of using an honest
- 17:44premise that can be possible, the
- 17:46premise is just wrong. If you're able to
- 17:48make rocks fly upwards just by powering
- 17:50up, then that must mean gravity
- 17:52manipulation is at play. What answer
- 17:54does Mario have to Goku's manipulating
- 17:56gravity? This premise just doesn't make
- 17:58any sense, as there could be other
- 18:00explanations to this effect, and this
- 18:02current explanation is also on its own
- 18:04not making sense. Genetic fallacy. This
- 18:06is when you say, "This isn't your
- 18:08argument, so I won't counter it." That
- 18:10does not matter. An argument is still an
- 18:13argument, and you need to counter it as
- 18:15a result. Just because a person says,
- 18:16"You got this calculation from a
- 18:18website, I'm not countering copied work,
- 18:21make your own conclusions next time."
- 18:23This is completely ignorant as this
- 18:25doesn't at all try to deny the point,
- 18:27just the person making the point.
- 18:28Incomplete comparison. This is when you
- 18:30try to make a vague claim in hopes of it
- 18:32being a valid argument. You'll hear this
- 18:34time and again and people say things
- 18:36like, "But Sonic is really fast." Or,
- 18:37"But Goku is really strong." But the
- 18:39questions, to what standards are you
- 18:41saying this? To what extent do you mean?
- 18:43Who are you comparing any character to
- 18:44when you're making this claim? Yeah,
- 18:46Goku is pretty strong next to Yamcha,
- 18:48but he doesn't look that strong next to
- 18:49Grandmaster Zeno. Inconsistent
- 18:51comparison. This is when you try to
- 18:53prove your points by comparing a
- 18:54person's speeds to multiple other
- 18:56characters. This only works if these
- 18:58comparisons are meaningful. For example,
- 18:59if I was to say something like, "Mario
- 19:01would beat any Sonic character. He's
- 19:03faster than Vector, smarter than Sonic,
- 19:05stronger than Espio. Yeah, these
- 19:08comparisons might be true, but they
- 19:10aren't actually that special. These
- 19:11would have more meaning if the
- 19:13conclusions I drew was he's faster than
- 19:15Sonic, smarter than Eggman, stronger
- 19:17than Knuckles, cuz these are high tiers
- 19:19of their stats. It would matter a lot
- 19:21more here. It's much more consistent.
- 19:23Invalid proof. Invalid proof, aside from
- 19:25meaning this proof is wrong, is more
- 19:27commonly when you provide calculations
- 19:29for some power, but you did the math
- 19:31wrong. If I said to you that Mario has
- 19:33scalings to show that he's 10 times
- 19:35stronger than an atomic nuke and then
- 19:37gives you the math and it shows 10 times
- 19:39weaker. I think the most meme version of
- 19:42this was in Death Battles first Goku
- 19:44versus Superman where they blatantly got
- 19:46wrong the math they use for their
- 19:48scalings on Goku. This was clowned on in
- 19:50the power scaling community. Even Kid Me
- 19:52was looking at this and was a little
- 19:54confused, affirming a disjunct. This is
- 19:56when you say there can only be two
- 19:57possibilities. One is true and the other
- 19:59is false. ignoring the possibility that
- 20:01they are both true or both false. Either
- 20:03Mario has great arm strength or great
- 20:05leg strength. We have seen him jump
- 20:07high, so he has to have great leg
- 20:08strength, right? Existential fallacy.
- 20:11This is when your argument hinges on
- 20:13something's existence when it doesn't
- 20:15exist. If Mario gets stronger with each
- 20:17powerup star up until 150, then Mario
- 20:20with 200 stars would be even stronger.
- 20:22Here's the thing, though. You might be
- 20:24right, might not. But there is no game
- 20:26where Mario can get 200 stars. Fallacy
- 20:28of exclusive premise. This is when
- 20:30someone gives you two negative premises
- 20:32and tries to associate them. No Mario
- 20:34character can jump fast. Some Mario
- 20:36characters cannot dodge. So that means
- 20:38Mario characters that can jump fast
- 20:40can't dodge. There's no real association
- 20:42to be had here. One isn't proven by the
- 20:44other. And my favorites appeal to
- 20:47reality fallacy. Have you ever heard or
- 20:49used this argument? This character can't
- 20:51be faster in light because nothing is
- 20:53faster in light. It literally takes
- 20:55infinite energy and it's the speed
- 20:57limit. He has to be moving either near
- 20:59light speed or edit. This is appeal to
- 21:01reality fallacy where because of how
- 21:03things work in our reality, you presume
- 21:05they work the same way in any written
- 21:07reality which is obviously not true. You
- 21:09have no clue whether the world that was
- 21:11written is a world that allows passing
- 21:13of the speed limit. Hence, it's not an
- 21:15argument that can be used. Only certain
- 21:17things like simple mathematical concepts
- 21:19can stay largely due to how
- 21:20self-explanatory it is. Yes, force is
- 21:23how hard something is hitting you. This
- 21:25is everything I know. You can check the
- 21:26wiki itself if you want to get its
- 21:28explanations on things. These are how I
- 21:30interpret each and every fallacy. Now,
- 21:32for all versus debate fiends out there,
- 21:34have fun and subscribe.
- 21:36[Music]
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