Experto En Idiomas: "¡Deja de Traducir! Haz Esto Para Pensar En Inglés y Hablarlo con fluidez" — Transcript
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- 0:00Today's guest is a polyglot who speaks
- 0:02more than 10 languages and is here to
- 0:03dispel the myths of the education
- 0:05system.
- 0:05In other words, knowing vocabulary
- 0:06doesn't allow you to speak a language.
- 0:08You need to know the verbal structure
- 0:09of that language.
- 0:10Why is English taught this way? I
- 0:12have no idea why this happens, but it
- 0:13happens throughout the education system
- 0:15, because it doesn't just happen with
- 0:16languages.
- 0:16He studied civil engineering, one of
- 0:18the most complex and demanding degrees.
- 0:20However, after finishing it, he
- 0:21realized that his true passion wasn't
- 0:23in structures, but in languages. Today,
- 0:25after deciphering the code that
- 0:26connects all languages, he dedicates
- 0:28himself to teaching others to speak
- 0:29English and other languages freely. If
- 0:31someone wants to learn English from
- 0:32scratch, what's the best advice you
- 0:33could give them?
- 0:33Learn Spanish from scratch. We speak it
- 0:35, but we don't know how. If you don't
- 0:37know how to speak your own native
- 0:38language, your goal is to first learn
- 0:40what you already know.
- 0:41In this episode, we'll explain why the
- 0:42traditional education system fails. We
- 0:44will examine the psychological traps
- 0:46that block your English fluency. We
- 0:47will investigate the definitive method
- 0:49to master any language using the
- 0:51structure of your own language. What do
- 0:53you think is the mistake that most
- 0:54people make when they start learning
- 0:55English?
- 0:56Do they memorize phrases or work with
- 0:57applications that give them incorrect
- 0:59translations, that are not didactic,
- 1:01that do not help?
- 1:01Why do they force us to cram endless
- 1:03lists if we do not even use them in our
- 1:05daily lives? No,
- 1:06in my opinion, because it is easy. Hey,
- 1:07how do I prepare for tomorrow's class?
- 1:09I print out 80 lists here, I send the
- 1:11students and I tell them that tomorrow
- 1:12there is an exam.
- 1:13How do we have to put subtitles on if
- 1:14we have watched a series or a movie?
- 1:16Never in any life. Never. Okay, I hope
- 1:18it has been made clear that you should
- 1:20never put subtitles in Spanish because
- 1:22it ruins the functioning of the brain.
- 1:24How can we pronounce English or any
- 1:25other language correctly?
- 1:35Today Pablo Vázquez has come to have
- 1:37coffee with history.
- 1:39Hello, it was a pleasure,
- 1:40welcome, man. Hey there, dude.
- 1:42Thanks for coming over and
- 1:44inviting me.
- 1:44Pablo, who do you think should stay and
- 1:46listen to this podcast? Well, I could
- 1:49tell you the typical people, the ones
- 1:51who have been learning English their
- 1:52whole life, right? Anyone who wants to
- 1:55raise their standards and quality of
- 1:57life should listen to this, whether
- 1:59they're a manager, a businessperson, an
- 2:01employee, a company employee, even
- 2:03someone who wants to travel, anyone who
- 2:05wants to raise their status.
- 2:07Come on, yeah. Well, Pablo, you know
- 2:09that this podcast is about inspiring
- 2:10people to achieve their goals, each one
- 2:12with their own. And I think you have a
- 2:14very inspiring story because, damn, in
- 2:16the end you studied civil engineering
- 2:20and you talk more about
- 2:21languages
- 2:22and after studying a degree as
- 2:24difficult as civil engineering, you
- 2:26dedicate yourself to teaching other
- 2:28people to learn English, French,
- 2:30Italian, German, languages, although
- 2:33you put more emphasis on English, but
- 2:35in the end they are languages. Exactly.
- 2:38Well,
- 2:38for what you said before, right? For
- 2:40better job opportunities, traveling
- 2:44abroad,
- 2:44well, for a lot of things, right? Which
- 2:46you'll tell us about now.
- 2:46Yes. Professionally, personally. That's
- 2:48how someone ends up dedicating
- 2:52themselves to this and teaching others
- 2:54to do it. And not only that, but you
- 2:56also speak more than 10 languages.
- 2:59How is all this possible, man? I got to
- 3:01the point where I lost count. There
- 3:03came a point where I said, "I don't
- 3:04know anymore, but because they're all
- 3:05the same. Later, if you want, we can
- 3:07see why they're all the same."
- 3:08But how did someone end up like that?
- 3:09Well, really, no one knows. I mean,
- 3:12you've had guests here who've told you
- 3:13that things happen and you don't know
- 3:15when, but they end up happening because
- 3:17for whatever reason the stars align and
- 3:19they arrive.
- 3:20And well, I followed a routine life,
- 3:22the typical one where you first study
- 3:24at school, at university, and I
- 3:25realized that I didn't like that, that
- 3:27I liked something else. Languages.
- 3:29Languages. Mm.
- 3:30And that's where I ended up, in short,
- 3:34how is it possible to end up speaking
- 3:37more than 10 languages?
- 3:39Okay, you just
- 3:40said it, all languages are the same.
- 3:42Exactly. That's where the key lies.
- 3:44And starting with understanding how you
- 3:46speak
- 3:47your own native language. That's
- 3:49the key. Because understanding, let's
- 3:52just accept it now to start with, that
- 3:54all languages are the same. If you
- 3:56understand how you speak yours,
- 3:57logically, you're going to find a
- 3:59relationship with any other language
- 4:02that's not your native one.
- 4:04And that's the key.
- 4:05Okay? It would be great if as we talk
- 4:07about all this we could give examples
- 4:09to help people realize all this that
- 4:12for you is very obvious, but surely for
- 4:14many of the people listening to us it's
- 4:16something completely unknown.
- 4:18Okay, that sounds great to me. If you
- 4:19want, we can start now. Hey, go ahead.
- 4:21I can put a simpler sentence at first,
- 4:22in quotes, maybe it's a sentence that
- 4:24you don't see until the third year of a
- 4:25typical English academy, and then we'll
- 4:27make it more complicated.
- 4:28We'll also talk about the educational
- 4:30system.
- 4:30Exactly. Okay, that sounds good to me.
- 4:31Okay, great. Okay,
- 4:33because you say that all languages are
- 4:34the same. Let's check it out.
- 4:36Exactly. If you want, we can make the
- 4:38simplest comparison in the world, which
- 4:40is our native language and English. For
- 4:42example, if I tell you,
- 4:44if I had a good teacher, I would learn
- 4:47English,
- 4:49okay? Let's take it one step at a time.
- 4:51If I had a good teacher, that's it.
- 4:53What's your analysis of this? I mean,
- 4:55how would you say it in English? It's,
- 4:57uh, if. If I had a good teacher, okay?
- 5:01If I would have. Okay. Okay.
- 5:03A teacher.
- 5:05Okay, let's stop there.
- 5:06Okay.
- 5:06I would have. You said if I would have.
- 5:09And if I tell you that what you just
- 5:11said is if I would have a good teacher.
- 5:14No, no, I said if I had a good teacher.
- 5:16Okay.
- 5:16And this is perfect for checking that
- 5:18we learn languages by memorizing
- 5:20without reasoning what's behind it.
- 5:22Completely. What's
- 5:23more, if I would have is also said by a
- 5:25native speaker many times incorrectly.
- 5:28That's not if I had.
- 5:30What is if I had? What is that "had" in
- 5:33Spanish without putting labels? Would
- 5:36you be able to say it now?
- 5:38What is that "had"? It's the future,
- 5:41right? Or well, it's the future. Keep
- 5:42saying options because that's how you
- 5:44get to the...I'm
- 5:44not going to say conditional, but the
- 5:45word doesn't come to me right now. It's
- 5:47not, no, no, it's not, man, the word
- 5:50doesn't come to me, but
- 5:51okay. Why? Because you're looking for
- 5:53the label.
- 5:53Yes.
- 5:54Well, "had", "had", "comiera", "comiese
- 5:56", "viviera", "viviese". All that is
- 5:58past,
- 5:59okay? It's
- 6:00past
- 6:00and you have to know it exactly as it
- 6:02is. It's past. I could tell you that
- 6:04that's an imperfect subjunctive, I
- 6:05don't know what. I don't know if I'm
- 6:07even saying it right, uh, I don't
- 6:08remember it. It's past, period. "had",
- 6:10"had", "comiera", "comiese".
- 6:12Okay.
- 6:13The first thing you have to know is
- 6:14that that's a past in our language.
- 6:15Note that we haven't even gotten into
- 6:17the problem with English yet, it's a
- 6:18problem with Spanish, of not
- 6:19understanding it.
- 6:20Okay, Tenía, is a past tense. What
- 6:23further analysis do you have for me on
- 6:24that?
- 6:25If I Tenía, well, it's a hypothetical
- 6:29situation. Okay, let's get out of that
- 6:32context, let's just stick with the form
- 6:33of the word and that we already know
- 6:35that it's a past tense. How do we use
- 6:37it now? That works to our advantage.
- 6:38It's a past tense, right? Let's focus
- 6:40on the verbs. Now we'll see which words
- 6:42are more important than others, because
- 6:43indeed there are some that are more
- 6:44important than others, okay?
- 6:46Tuviera, first we've already seen that
- 6:47it's a past tense, okay? We just
- 6:48learned it, let's stick with it. What
- 6:50is the verb in its basic form?
- 6:52Tener.
- 6:53Tener. Okay, that's the next analysis
- 6:55we have to do. Then all this comes out
- 6:57of nowhere, but at first we have to
- 6:58think about it.
- 6:59Present, past, future. We know it's
- 7:00past.
- 7:01Exactly. Exactly. And now we've found
- 7:03out what the verb is. That's the verb
- 7:05to have, right? How do you say to have
- 7:06in English?
- 7:08Have.
- 7:08Have. Perfect. But we've said it's a
- 7:11past tense. Hat.
- 7:13H. We already have it.
- 7:14Okay.
- 7:15How do you say it? If I had, that's it.
- 7:17If I had.
- 7:18If I had. End of story. Okay, what this
- 7:23shows is that our problem isn't in the
- 7:25target language, our problem is in the
- 7:28native source language.
- 7:30In the native one. Why? Because we've
- 7:32learned it by memorizing it. We'll talk
- 7:33about this properly now. And when you
- 7:35memorize it, you haven't understood it.
- 7:37When you want to switch to another
- 7:38language, you don't know what you're
- 7:40saying. Of course. If I would have, if
- 7:42I would have, there are people who say
- 7:44it like that, natives who say, "If I
- 7:45would have, a great pronunciation."
- 7:47We'll talk about pronunciation later
- 7:48too. It's wrong. If I would have a good
- 7:52teacher. No, no. If I had, Perfect. If
- 7:55I had a good teacher.
- 7:56Okay.
- 7:57And now I would learn English. What's
- 8:00that?
- 8:01I would learn is a conditional.
- 8:03Okay, we don't care about the label,
- 8:05right? Note that we haven't talked
- 8:06about learning the future.
- 8:07Aprendería is not the future.
- 8:09Aprendería,
- 8:10because if it is the future, it is the
- 8:11same. It is the same as estaba. It is
- 8:13the same. It is past. So it
- 8:14is the same. Note, uh, where is the
- 8:16problem? This is great because you
- 8:18speak English, which is the funny thing
- 8:19. It is great
- 8:20that you are a hick. Sure. Let's see.
- 8:22No, it is great because you already
- 8:24speak English in a normal everyday
- 8:26situation, but you have it memorized
- 8:27there. The moment you manage to
- 8:29understand it, it will come out much
- 8:31more fluently. Tuviera, tuviere has
- 8:33nothing to do with aprendería. What
- 8:35would be the equivalent in the verb
- 8:37aprender of Tenía or Tuviere? The same
- 8:41verb form. Teníam
- 8:46aprendiera.
- 8:47Exactly. Aprendiera, aprendese. Now we
- 8:50have located the form, we already know
- 8:52what it is.
- 8:53So, it is not past. It is
- 8:54not past. We already know that. It is
- 8:56another verb form. That's what we need
- 8:58to know, that this is called a
- 8:59conditional. It doesn't matter to me,
- 9:01it doesn't help me. I
- 9:02would learn, I would eat, I would live,
- 9:04I would drink, all that as expressed in
- 9:06English. And I don't need labels. What
- 9:09do I have to put in front?
- 9:10Will. No, it's the future. I will learn
- 9:12. You will learn. I will eat. No, I
- 9:15wouldn't learn. I
- 9:16would eat.
- 9:17W. No,
- 9:17w. Now the W does appear.
- 9:19Yes.
- 9:20And we haven't called this a
- 9:21conditional because it's of no use to
- 9:23me. Now I would learn English. How do
- 9:26you say it?
- 9:27I would learn. I would learn English.
- 9:31There you go. And you speak English.
- 9:34Well, imagine.
- 9:35Let's say I spoke. Okay, but you can
- 9:37hold your own, right?
- 9:39And even so, you're not clear on...look
- 9:41at these apparently simple concepts,
- 9:43but which no one is clear about, and I
- 9:45wasn't either in my day.
- 9:47And how can we use this to our
- 9:49advantage?
- 9:51Literal translation of one structure
- 9:54and another, mind you, not
- 9:55word-for-word translation, but
- 9:57translation at the level of
- 9:59equivalences. Like I do, I would learn,
- 10:01I would learn or it would be learned by
- 10:03putting the word in front of the verb,
- 10:05I would have, I would have, I would eat
- 10:07, I would eat, I know it is a past
- 10:09tense, I use the past tense. Had, in
- 10:11the case of had, equivalencies and
- 10:13word-by-word translation. If you want,
- 10:15we can overwrite it later and put it.
- 10:17If I had a good teacher, tell me if
- 10:18that is not literal. If, yes, I, me.
- 10:22Had, had. E, a good, good teacher,
- 10:26professor.
- 10:28That is the key. Translating word by
- 10:31word, because at a basic structural
- 10:33level it is very easy to speak any
- 10:35language. And then I would learn
- 10:39English. What is the difference between
- 10:41I would learn and aprendería between
- 10:43one language and another? The
- 10:45construction, but the equivalence is
- 10:47the same.
- 10:48In Spanish we have verb conjugations,
- 10:51that complicates our language a lot,
- 10:53but in English putting a word in front
- 10:56of the for a past suffix.
- 10:58How do I say it? I will learn. I will.
- 11:00I will learn. I will learn and he will
- 11:02learn. He will learn. We have a crazy
- 11:04language and there are others that are
- 11:06like that too, but in English you just
- 11:08put a little particle in front of the
- 11:09verb
- 11:10and that's it. And why do you think
- 11:12English is taught like this? I don't
- 11:15know.
- 11:15How do you think English is taught? I
- 11:17have no idea why this happens, but it
- 11:19happens with the entire educational
- 11:20system. We talked about it before. What
- 11:23happens? People have a hard time
- 11:24changing. Imagine if one person had a
- 11:27hard time changing themselves. It's
- 11:29like changing an entire educational
- 11:31system, because this doesn't just
- 11:33happen with languages, this happens
- 11:35with any subject.
- 11:36Well, you are already aware of what we
- 11:37dedicate ourselves to when discussing
- 11:39history. Memorize thousands of dates,
- 11:40thousands of names, thousands of
- 11:42characters from events that you're
- 11:43going to forget when you finish the
- 11:45exam. It's completely absurd. The same
- 11:47thing happens with English, right?
- 11:48Because what you've
- 11:49always said, my memory is that in
- 11:51school you had to learn the present
- 11:53continuous, the simple future, the
- 11:55compound future, the past, the...I mean
- 11:57, of
- 11:57course,
- 11:58grammar is ultimately useful if we want
- 12:00to learn English. That's grammar, what
- 12:02you've said.
- 12:03Sure.
- 12:03And I'm passionate about grammar,
- 12:06but because I already have that
- 12:07background and baggage behind me to say
- 12:08, "Okay, I understand what each thing
- 12:10is,
- 12:10but it's not useful for learning.
- 12:12And I understand that the average
- 12:14person isn't prepared to memorize all
- 12:16those labels that don't go anywhere. Of
- 12:19what? What is that? Of the future
- 12:20compound, of the past perfect or of the
- 12:22present continuous. If all I want to
- 12:23know how to say is, I'm playing. Do I
- 12:25need to know that this is called the
- 12:27present continuous? No, I'm playing.
- 12:31I'm playing. Literal translation into
- 12:32English. What is it like? I am playing.
- 12:35I am playing. Verb to be. No, the test
- 12:38is for you to tell me what the verb is
- 12:40and conjugate it for me. I don't want
- 12:41to know that. I want to know how to use
- 12:43the verb chip in context. Well, just
- 12:45like it's used in Spanish. When do I
- 12:47use the verb chip? When do I use the
- 12:49verb ser or estar in Spanish? In most
- 12:51cases, of course, there are exceptions.
- 12:53But if what we want is to talk in a
- 12:55short time, Oh, [ __ ], just keep it
- 12:57simple. Oh. And playing and we have a
- 13:00literal translation again.
- 13:01Mm, that's it.
- 13:03For someone who is starting from
- 13:04scratch
- 13:04or who wants to learn a language from
- 13:06scratch, in this case English, which is
- 13:08the one we are using as an example, if
- 13:09someone wants to learn English from
- 13:11scratch,
- 13:12what is the best advice you could give
- 13:13them?
- 13:14The best advice, learn Spanish from
- 13:16scratch. Exactly. Learn Spanish from
- 13:20scratch. We speak it, but we don't know
- 13:23how. If you don't know how to speak
- 13:26your own native language, as we have
- 13:28seen with two examples that we have
- 13:30just seen, they are 90%identical, your
- 13:33goal is to first learn or understand
- 13:35what you already know so that you can
- 13:37then extrapolate it to something that
- 13:40is supposed to be new. Then you see
- 13:42that no, it is the same. You don't
- 13:44learn to multiply and divide before you
- 13:46learn to add and subtract, right? It is
- 13:49impossible to learn English before
- 13:51learning Spanish. You can memorize it.
- 13:53Yes. Spend 30, 40 years living in the
- 13:55country and in the end you speak it.
- 13:57Who has? that time these days? Nobody.
- 14:02Nobody. You're lost if you want to do
- 14:05that. That's where the frustration
- 14:06comes from, that you don't make any
- 14:06progress, you don't make any progress,
- 14:07you don't make any progress. That's the
- 14:09problem.
- 14:10And instead, what do you think is the
- 14:11mistake that most people make when they
- 14:13start learning English? That they
- 14:15memorize phrases. They memorize phrases
- 14:17or work with applications that give
- 14:19them incorrect translations, that
- 14:20aren't didactic and that don't help.
- 14:22Then we can also see some examples of
- 14:24this. Very specific examples, uh, of
- 14:26how a word is written in one way in one
- 14:28language, how you translate it to
- 14:30another and how that burns the brain.
- 14:33Because it burns it. If you don't give
- 14:36it a way to learn logic, which is how
- 14:38this works, by logic and reasoning,
- 14:40you're lost.
- 14:41And above all, what happens to me
- 14:42sometimes is that I have to be thinking
- 14:44about what I want to say.
- 14:45Of course.
- 14:46So that exercise of, I mean, in the end
- 14:47it's very complicated to have a
- 14:49conversation like that because you
- 14:50spend more time thinking than talking.
- 14:52Exactly. You aren't
- 14:53listening to what the person is telling
- 14:54you, you're focused on what you'll
- 14:55You're going to answer. That's very
- 14:56difficult.
- 14:57But why do you spend so much time
- 14:59thinking? That's the key question. Why
- 15:01do you think you spend so much time
- 15:03thinking in English, for example? I
- 15:07don't
- 15:07know. In the end, when I'm speaking in
- 15:09English, you used the example before,
- 15:11and I was thinking about...I wasn't
- 15:12thinking about...I mean, I was really
- 15:14just remembering how it was done.
- 15:16There we are. That's the question. You
- 15:18try to recall
- 15:20things that are lying around in some
- 15:22lost drawer
- 15:23and you bring them here, pa, and paste
- 15:24them.
- 15:25Instead of saying to yourself," Okay,
- 15:27what does "tiene" or "tibese" mean?
- 15:28What does "aprendera" mean? "When you
- 15:30think about it and think about it, it
- 15:32just comes out. Tell me now. If I had a
- 15:34good teacher, I would learn English.
- 15:36If I had a good teacher,
- 15:37I would learn English. You're putting
- 15:39it here in a compromising way, man.
- 15:40No,
- 15:40if I had, you know what
- 15:41if
- 15:43we said is past tense. So it's if I had
- 15:46if I had a good teacher.
- 15:48If I had a good teacher,
- 15:49I would learn English. I will. I would
- 15:52learn English. Okay,
- 15:55obviously you're saying again," Wow,
- 15:57such and such, "but you already have it
- 15:59,
- 15:59but you reconsider right away."
- 16:00The reasoning is, damn it, tell him to
- 16:02wait.
- 16:03Speak slowly.
- 16:05Okay, let me think. That's all you need
- 16:08, time. And once you've thought and
- 16:10reasoned that, three, four, five times,
- 16:12it comes to you on its own. But if you
- 16:14bring memorized things out of the
- 16:16drawer that you don't understand,
- 16:18you're not going to be fluent in life.
- 16:21But in life it's impossible. It's
- 16:22possible. I mean, what do you think is
- 16:24the first change of mindset
- 16:26that we have to make when we want to
- 16:27learn English? We've said it. And it's
- 16:29not to not remember, not to try to
- 16:31search for memory, but simply to
- 16:33translate.
- 16:33Exactly. Exactly. I
- 16:35mean, literally translating English
- 16:36into Spanish
- 16:37and using these little tricks that
- 16:38you've told us,
- 16:39because I'd like us to go into more
- 16:41depth here. I mean, we're clear on the
- 16:42first step, which is to identify the
- 16:44verb. In this case, we haven't said
- 16:46which tenses are past, present, and
- 16:47future.
- 16:48From here,
- 16:50how do we continue? If it's future,
- 16:52we've said that it has the will.
- 16:54Exactly.
- 16:56If it's past, For example, we haven't
- 16:58covered this yet.
- 16:58Okay, let's talk about the past. Now
- 17:00the future is will. We've already
- 17:02covered that before. Now the past. I'll
- 17:03tell you something even more important,
- 17:05okay? But the past. Fantastic. Let's
- 17:07focus now. Here we are on verbs. How is
- 17:10the past represented in English? At a
- 17:12regular level. We haven't gone into
- 17:14irregularities because I'm not
- 17:16interested in exceptions and
- 17:17irregularities at first. How is the
- 17:19past represented in English? You add
- 17:20the LD. That's
- 17:22a form, okay? It's a form. It's two
- 17:25letters that are added there,
- 17:26okay? If I want to say I play, I say I
- 17:28play. If I want to say I played, what
- 17:31do I say?
- 17:32I play it.
- 17:33I play it. Okay, then that D is
- 17:35pronounced however you want. Later
- 17:36we'll also talk about pronunciation
- 17:38because it's a hodgepodge and there are
- 17:40three fundamental parts that we'll
- 17:41review and revise later. An ed that you
- 17:43put at the end. However, in Spanish,
- 17:46what? I play, you go on. Did you
- 17:48play?
- 17:49He.
- 17:49played.
- 17:50Keep going, keep going.
- 17:51We play, uh, I played. Uh, we play, we
- 17:53play, which also coincides with the
- 17:54present.
- 17:55Sure, sure, sure.
- 17:56You played,
- 17:57you played, they played. It's really
- 17:58complicated.
- 17:59It's torture for a foreigner,
- 18:00especially an Englishman
- 18:02who lacks all of this.
- 18:03I played, you played, he played, played
- 18:05.
- 18:05Much easier.
- 18:05Everything is the same. The past tense
- 18:07is already identified. Fantastic.
- 18:10That's it. You don't need anything else
- 18:13. Then there are regularities,
- 18:15fantastic. You don't say I tookd
- 18:16anymore, you say I took. I'll learn
- 18:19them later. In the end, they're such
- 18:21common verbs that I'm going to learn
- 18:23them no matter what, but I have to
- 18:25first understand how I'm speaking in my
- 18:26language and know that I'm saying I
- 18:28played or I took.
- 18:30First, know what tense I'm speaking in.
- 18:32Now, having said all this, speaking of
- 18:34the future, of the past,
- 18:35I can communicate in any language by
- 18:37speaking in only one tense.
- 18:39Which one? Present.
- 18:41Present. If I know how to use the
- 18:44present in any language, I can speak in
- 18:46the future using the present and speak
- 18:48in the past using the present.
- 18:51Okay? Since
- 18:52you work with history in 1000, when did
- 18:55Columbus discover America, remind me,
- 18:59uh, 1492. In 1492, Columbus
- 19:01discovered America.
- 19:02He discovered America, right? What am I
- 19:05using there? A context, an adverb, I
- 19:07don't care what you call it, a past
- 19:10tense and I'm using a present tense.
- 19:14How do I say it in the future? I don't
- 19:17have to say tomorrow to London.
- 19:19I discover America.
- 19:21I discover America tomorrow after
- 19:22Columbus, for example, with flying. I
- 19:24don't have to say tomorrow I will fly
- 19:26to London. I can use a present tense, I
- 19:28will fly to London tomorrow.
- 19:30The same happens in English and in any
- 19:32other language you come across.
- 19:34Tomorrow I fly to London.
- 19:36Sure, directly.
- 19:37And it's present tense. That's it.
- 19:39Hm. No more
- 19:40problems. You see what a problem it is
- 19:43to put a well now, now.
- 19:44In front of a verb.
- 19:45Or an ide at the end.
- 19:46Sure. I mean, my level in English is
- 19:48high. I'll upload it really quickly,
- 19:49really quickly, like this. But I can
- 19:51use the present tense.
- 19:54If you started learning a language from
- 19:56scratch, you would begin with the
- 19:57present tense.
- 19:58Exactly. The present tense. And three
- 20:01important verb forms, okay? They are
- 20:03not conjugations. The er ir. I could
- 20:05tell you the infinitive, the gerund,
- 20:07and participle. Okay, and I've already
- 20:08told you. To you, that's something like
- 20:10etiquette, it's
- 20:11useless.
- 20:12To feel smarter because you know
- 20:13grammar.
- 20:14Sure, to...
- 20:15But to communicate, to make
- 20:16it cool. All I need to know is how to
- 20:18say it in a language. Ar, er, ir. I'm
- 20:21going and hearing. Those are the forms
- 20:25I need. That ar, er, ir. How is it
- 20:27represented in English? comer, jugar,
- 20:30vivir. Tu, to. That's the only
- 20:33difference there is. To live, to eat,
- 20:35to play. It's not just live, eat, play,
- 20:38no, put the che in front and that's the
- 20:40r. That's what people have told me many
- 20:42times on social media, but There are
- 20:43exceptions, such as, many times it's
- 20:44ING. Forget about exceptions. What
- 20:46you're asking me is how do I start
- 20:48speaking
- 20:49so that I can communicate in the
- 20:50shortest possible time.
- 20:51Yes. Then you'll learn, you'll do the
- 20:53tricks. But exactly, you start there.
- 20:55Exactly. And ando yendo, how is it
- 20:57represented in English? ing playing
- 21:00eating
- 21:01going and eladoído
- 21:05ed
- 21:06ed if it's regular ed
- 21:08okay
- 21:08if it's irregular then we would enter
- 21:11that famous table that
- 21:12is used for past tense verbs that don't
- 21:14follow the rule fantastic. The time
- 21:17will come to see it. Now is not the
- 21:19time you
- 21:21need more ar ir. Andoyendo and hás
- 21:23escucha. Now what you need is context.
- 21:27When do I use ar ir?
- 21:29When do I use the word vivir or jugar
- 21:33or comer? When? I mean, I need context
- 21:35there.
- 21:36Really very little, very little. There
- 21:40is no
- 21:41use. Uh, if I want to say I want to
- 21:43play, I'm
- 21:44already using jugar, right?
- 21:46Okay,
- 21:46let's say it in English now.
- 21:48I want to play. That's it. I don't say
- 21:50I want to play. Why do people say I
- 21:52want? play because they don't
- 21:54understand what that R is.
- 21:55Sure, the R is the tú.
- 21:56Sure.
- 21:57If it's not like you would be saying, "
- 21:59I want to hug,
- 22:00I want to hug, right? Or I want to play
- 22:02." Who knows, there's no direct
- 22:04translation in that case, but you're
- 22:06not saying it right
- 22:07when the translation is actually the
- 22:09same, it's not literal, but it is
- 22:11equivalent. We look for equivalencies,
- 22:13that's super important,
- 22:14okay? And the ando vando, I don't go
- 22:17around saying I'm playing or I'm
- 22:19wanting, right? How do you say it? I am
- 22:21playing.
- 22:22Exactly. I say, I'm playing. That ando
- 22:25vando accompanies another verb form
- 22:26that's in front of it. Fantastic. You
- 22:29saw, right?
- 22:29But it's a literal translation. The ch
- 22:30is a literal translation.
- 22:31I am playing.
- 22:32And the heard side. I don't go around
- 22:35saying, "I have played, I have lived."
- 22:38What do I say?
- 22:39I have lived.
- 22:39What is that?
- 22:40The have.
- 22:41The have. But if I don't even know what
- 22:43it is in Spanish, which is the
- 22:45auxiliary verb haber and the label
- 22:46doesn't matter to me, I don't
- 22:48know how to translate it into English.
- 22:50Yo ha juego, tú has juego, él ha
- 22:51juego. I have played. You have played.
- 22:55He has played. It has its conjugation,
- 22:57have, but I understand what it is. And
- 22:59the translation, as you can see, is
- 23:00word for word. I already have the
- 23:03context. So, how do I start? By
- 23:05learning these three things and knowing
- 23:07how to use the present tense, to give
- 23:09your people the present tense here.
- 23:11There is only one conjugation mark in
- 23:13English, it only occurs in the present
- 23:15and in the third person. How do you say
- 23:16it? He plays.
- 23:18He plays.
- 23:19What happened there?
- 23:20We put an s. That's it.
- 23:22Just like we say yo, how do you say tú
- 23:24comes, come, comemos, all those verb
- 23:26endings? In English there is only one
- 23:28that is in the third person and only in
- 23:30the present
- 23:31and end. Yes, in the past it is in the
- 23:34past it is the same
- 23:36for everyone. It's all over. And this
- 23:38is not grammar. Whoever says that this
- 23:40is grammar has a conceptual error
- 23:42because these are not equivalencies. We
- 23:44haven't
- 23:45talked about this, we haven't even
- 23:46talked about verb tenses beyond past,
- 23:47present and future.
- 23:48Zero. That's all you need to know. Yes.
- 23:51Knowing how to recognize that verb form
- 23:53in your language so that you can
- 23:54automatically translate it to another.
- 23:56And we're talking about this in English
- 23:58and it's the example that we'll use
- 24:00throughout the interview because it's
- 24:02perhaps the most difficult for us
- 24:03Spanish speakers, of the most widely
- 24:05spoken, but this dynamic can really be
- 24:07applied to any language,
- 24:08any language and in fact in many
- 24:10languages all this doesn't exist as
- 24:13such and you have to use other types of
- 24:15particles or words to give it that
- 24:17sense of saying I'm playing. For
- 24:20example, in Chinese you have to say, "
- 24:22I'm playing now
- 24:23in Chinese, a language that people say,
- 24:25oh my goodness, the little symbols,
- 24:26such and such. Then if you want we can
- 24:28talk about it, but it's even, but it's
- 24:30even easier
- 24:31because there's no specific ending for
- 24:33the language."
- 24:34Exactly. Even easier
- 24:37than English.
- 24:38How interesting. And why, in the end,
- 24:39of course, the question that arises for
- 24:41me is, why do they teach us in school?
- 24:44Present continuous and the present
- 24:46continuous table for each verb, the
- 24:47lists, the endless lists of vocabulary,
- 24:50because we have said that in the end,
- 24:52what do we want? I mean, we don't leave
- 24:54school or want to learn English to be
- 24:56philologists,
- 24:58right? Of the English language. In the
- 24:59end, what we want is, damn it, to be
- 25:01able to speak English, to be able to
- 25:02conduct conversations, to be able to do
- 25:04a job interview in English, to be able
- 25:06to talk to people in English, for work,
- 25:07because we travel there, for whatever
- 25:09reason. So, why do they force us to
- 25:12cram endless lists
- 25:14of everything? Vocabulary, verbs,
- 25:16irregularities, etc., which the most
- 25:18normal thing, as you have said, is that
- 25:20in most cases we don't even use them in
- 25:23life,
- 25:23right? It doesn't make sense, because
- 25:26in my opinion, because it's the easy
- 25:27thing to do, hey, how do I prepare for
- 25:29tomorrow's class? I print out 80 lists
- 25:30here, give them to the students and
- 25:32tell them there's a test tomorrow. And
- 25:35that's the easy part. Now, it's not the
- 25:37teacher's fault. In fact, I hope many
- 25:39teachers watch this interview, as I've
- 25:41seen in others, and are aware of the
- 25:43sacrilege of giving a list of words to
- 25:45a child, and I'm not even talking about
- 25:48adults, to a kid so they can memorize
- 25:50them without further ado. I mean, just
- 25:52knowing vocabulary for the sake of it
- 25:54does not let you speak a language. You
- 25:57need to know the verbal structure of
- 25:58that language. And that's learned in
- 26:00the time it took us.
- 26:0120 minutes.
- 26:01Nothing. Yes.
- 26:02And in less. Speaking of children, the
- 26:05other day Sara showed me
- 26:07a video of her cousin's son
- 26:12who I think is 4 or 5 years old.
- 26:14Cuos.
- 26:15Well, he was counting the numbers, I
- 26:17don't want to get it wrong, but
- 26:19something like in English, in German,
- 26:22in Indonesia
- 26:24and I don't know if in French or
- 26:25another language, okay? Or well, in
- 26:26Spanish, of course, right? But in all
- 26:28these languages. It's
- 26:30true that children learn languages
- 26:32faster. Yes, it's true. Okay. Now, to
- 26:37say that a child is more intelligent
- 26:39than an adult, that is not total
- 26:41nonsense. I mean, it's impossible for a
- 26:44child to be smarter than an adult by
- 26:45definition. How long have we been
- 26:47learning and knowing things? Of course,
- 26:50but even so, the dumbest adult in the
- 26:53world
- 26:54is smarter than a 4-year-old. It's
- 26:57another thing for a child to have
- 26:58intuition. But do you know what
- 26:59differentiates a child from an adult? A
- 27:02child is excited to learn and improve
- 27:06every day, and an adult
- 27:08is a blank slate, right? They come with
- 27:10all these biases that those who have
- 27:11already taught us English badly,
- 27:13because how they teach you English, I
- 27:14mean, English is taught badly. That's
- 27:16how it is, we're seeing it now because
- 27:17of how you're saying it, right?
- 27:19All of us who already have these
- 27:22biases or a somewhat conventional way
- 27:24of teaching in mind, when we want to
- 27:25continue learning, well, in the end,
- 27:27it's very difficult for us to adopt
- 27:29these new ways that you're talking
- 27:30about. You know? Because we come with a
- 27:32burden and the child, in the end,
- 27:34doesn't have this burden.
- 27:35So everything they learn,
- 27:36I mean, is in a much more effective way
- 27:39, as you're saying.
- 27:41Of course, because they are open to
- 27:42everything and say, "Okay, look, if
- 27:44he's telling me this, I believe it and
- 27:46I'll learn it." Not us, we come with
- 27:48hidden vices. This is done this way
- 27:50because it has to be done this way.
- 27:52Later we'll talk about a topic that has
- 27:54generated much controversy, and since
- 27:56you break the pattern, he seems foreign
- 27:58and scary, so I don't do it. It's our
- 28:00problem. The adults '. Not the child,
- 28:03the child is excited every day to be a
- 28:05better version of himself. Every day,
- 28:06until, I don't know, 9, 10 years old, I
- 28:09don't know to what point one stops
- 28:11saying...That's it.
- 28:12Yes, yes, yes, yes. Because then, for
- 28:15example, Pablo, once we understand
- 28:17that conventional teaching methods for
- 28:21learning languages and many other
- 28:22subjects, but in this case, which is
- 28:24what we are dedicated to learning
- 28:25languages, do not work. Once we have
- 28:28that integrated, we have to see what
- 28:29verb tense is to translate literally
- 28:31with those little tricks that you have
- 28:32given us.
- 28:33What next step can we include to
- 28:35continue learning and to be able to
- 28:37communicate better with the aim of
- 28:39speaking with other people and
- 28:40understanding each other?
- 28:42Okay, here we enter the vocabulary part
- 28:44.
- 28:45First I have detected what is going to
- 28:48allow me to speak, even fluently, and
- 28:50now what I need is to learn those key
- 28:53words,
- 28:54okay? that are going to allow me to
- 28:55have that fluency in speech, which are,
- 28:58and we have already seen this before,
- 29:00what words?
- 29:00Verbs.
- 29:01Verbs. Now, 2,000 million verbs or how
- 29:04many, how many do you think we need
- 29:06verbs? Yes.
- 29:07To start speaking.
- 29:08To start.
- 29:10Action verbs. Well, all verbs are
- 29:12action verbs by definition, but
- 29:13a number. Say a number. I don't
- 29:15know. Let's say 200, 300. That's it.
- 29:19Even with less, even with 20 typical
- 29:22verbs, be, have, can. That's it. You
- 29:25could use 200. You have a whole range
- 29:27of things and tools to use whenever you
- 29:29want, because English is very easy to
- 29:32use. There are no conjugations, man.
- 29:33Yeah, I
- 29:34just have to learn that word, but no.
- 29:37At school they give me 1000, 2000,
- 29:383000. The irregular ones, learn them
- 29:40already. No, man, it's much easier.
- 29:44Words. And here we come to the second
- 29:46pillar. The first one we saw is
- 29:47reasoning.
- 29:48Yes,
- 29:48vital.
- 29:50This second one would be vocabulary, I
- 29:51would even put it in third place. I
- 29:52think the second most important pillar
- 29:54is pronunciation.
- 29:55Okay.
- 29:56Why would you tell me that
- 29:57pronunciation is important? There are
- 29:59many people who don't bother to
- 30:00pronounce a language correctly.
- 30:01Well, because in the end it's like
- 30:04speaking a different language. If you
- 30:06do not pronounce it as the language
- 30:07demands, you will not be able to
- 30:09communicate with a native speaker
- 30:10because they will not understand.
- 30:11Exactly. What happens in communication?
- 30:14If you don't pronounce it well, they
- 30:15won't understand you.
- 30:16Of course, that's for
- 30:17sure. And are you going to understand
- 30:19them?
- 30:19Well, probably not either.
- 30:21How? If you haven't taught your brain
- 30:23how to do this that we have here, which
- 30:24we'll discuss now, how that sound
- 30:26sounds, how that sound is reproduced,
- 30:28how you expect to understand, you're
- 30:30speaking
- 30:30two different languages.
- 30:31Of course,
- 30:32even if you're trying to speak the same
- 30:34language, they won't understand you.
- 30:36Therefore, communication is useless.
- 30:38Everything we've said so far, all the
- 30:39tricks you've mentioned,
- 30:41are useless
- 30:42if the other person doesn't understand
- 30:43you.
- 30:43You use the same example. If instead of
- 30:45saying I am playing in a near-native
- 30:47pronunciation, you say I am playing,
- 30:50the native speaker won't understand you
- 30:52. And if you've memorized it like this,
- 30:54you've learned it like this, when the
- 30:55native tells you I'm playing, what
- 30:56you're going to hear is noise.
- 30:58Of course,
- 30:58because there's no nasality, you're not
- 31:00pronouncing the consonants correctly,
- 31:02you don't
- 31:03know what noise is coming from there.
- 31:06Wait, wait, what does it say below?
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- 31:19know, click on the link in the
- 31:21description and subscribe, it's free
- 31:23for now. How can we pronounce English
- 31:25and any other language well? By
- 31:27learning how to place this. You have
- 31:31lips and everything, teeth, tongue,
- 31:34vocal cords.
- 31:36Any human being is capable of
- 31:38reproducing any sound that is generated
- 31:40with all these elements,
- 31:42okay?
- 31:42Why does a Chinese child born in China
- 31:44speak perfect Chinese or a German child
- 31:47speaks perfect in Germany or French in
- 31:49France?
- 31:50Why do we say it's not that my
- 31:51pronunciation is bad? Where does the
- 31:53problem really lie? This is innate.
- 31:57Everyone has this. Let's put aside the
- 32:00problems that people may have with
- 32:02something here,
- 32:03okay? But the average person has all
- 32:05these elements. They learn how to use
- 32:08them, learn how to position their
- 32:11tongue, their teeth, how to expel air,
- 32:14all that can be learned. Why don't we
- 32:17use it and why doesn't anyone teach us?
- 32:20I don't understand it. To me it's vital
- 32:22. And I would leave vocabulary in third
- 32:24place. The first and second pillar is
- 32:27reasoning,
- 32:28reasoning
- 32:29and, hand in hand, pronunciation.
- 32:31Because if you don't pronounce well,
- 32:32reasoning is useless, you're not
- 32:34speaking the language.
- 32:35Pronunciation is more important than
- 32:37vocabulary. A
- 32:38thousand times more. I would even put
- 32:41pronunciation in the foreground, but of
- 32:43course, you need a minimum structure to
- 32:45start speaking.
- 32:46And that's reasoning.
- 32:48Exactly.
- 32:48Okay. So, how can we articulate all
- 32:50this that we have here? To speak
- 32:52English more like a native, or so that
- 32:54a native can understand us better.
- 32:55By copying exactly the position and
- 32:59shape of the
- 33:00native speaker's mouth. There you have
- 33:03it.
- 33:03How do you say it in English? Think.
- 33:05Let's be aware of this.
- 33:06Think.
- 33:07Think. Okay, that th people don't know
- 33:11how it works. What's going on there?
- 33:13How does that Z sound? No,
- 33:15Z. Okay, and now let's go to the shape
- 33:18of our mouth and where each of these
- 33:21elements are placed. Where are they?
- 33:23Okay, the teeth. Tongue and teeth.
- 33:26What's
- 33:26happening? What's involved here? Teeth
- 33:28and tongue. Okay. What's their relative
- 33:30position? How are they placed?
- 33:32Okay.
- 33:33Think.
- 33:33Okay.
- 33:34Think.
- 33:35Where are they?
- 33:36The tongue touches the top of the
- 33:38denture.
- 33:39The top. Let's be more specific there.
- 33:41Think. If I say think.
- 33:44Think. Think,
- 33:46the tongue is between the teeth, right?
- 33:47Well, yes, that's the first thing. Yes,
- 33:49you see it.
- 33:49Yes, yes.
- 33:50We're not aware of it and it's a simple
- 33:52sound.
- 33:53Yes,
- 33:53just like Z.
- 33:54Z,
- 33:55zebra is the same position.
- 33:57Why would someone have a hard time
- 33:58pronouncing that? They just have to put
- 34:00their tongue between their teeth. Think
- 34:03,
- 34:03think. That's
- 34:03it.
- 34:05How do I say take? People say take.
- 34:08It's not take in English. I would say
- 34:12take.
- 34:12Okay, now make it more native. What do
- 34:15they do to sound like they do? Well,
- 34:17they
- 34:18don't say take, they don't
- 34:19say take. What just happened there? It
- 34:22sounds silly, but this is very powerful
- 34:24. I
- 34:25mean, you said before, the example you
- 34:27gave when it was wrong, ch, let's say,
- 34:29shake. It's like take. That
- 34:31take.
- 34:33Stick your tongue to your roof.
- 34:34Something has happened there that
- 34:36stands out above all else. To tell me
- 34:38take, you say take.
- 34:40Take.
- 34:41What is it? What phenomenon is there
- 34:43that just appeared? Do you see how we
- 34:45are not aware? You have seen it, put
- 34:46your hand in front of you and say, "
- 34:48Take,
- 34:48take." What happened? You
- 34:49exhale, that's it. And that's the
- 34:52biggest difference between English and
- 34:54Spanish. We say take
- 34:57and car,
- 34:58not care.
- 34:59Take,
- 35:00take. The air comes out, do you see?
- 35:02And it's silly, but since no one tells
- 35:04you, you've been pronouncing it wrong
- 35:06your whole life.
- 35:07And it's a ridiculous detail. Sure, you
- 35:10say, "Seriously, they're not going to
- 35:12teach you this in school." Well, they
- 35:13don't teach it to you. They expect you
- 35:16to develop it by pure science.
- 35:17Well, I also studied at the British
- 35:22Council. I
- 35:23went every afternoon, two days a week,
- 35:25for two or three hours. Apart from the
- 35:27fact that it was a total drag,
- 35:29or for me it was a total drag, maybe
- 35:30there were people who had a good time,
- 35:32which I'll never understand. For me it
- 35:33was a total drag. And honestly, I
- 35:35didn't learn. Well, let's see, I don't
- 35:37know if I learned much or not. I don't
- 35:38think so, I didn't learn much,
- 35:40but because, I mean, everything you're
- 35:42telling me, uh,
- 35:44come on, it's new to me. But how long
- 35:46did it take us to learn this?
- 35:47No, I don't know how long it took us.
- 35:4825 minutes, half an hour. It's just
- 35:51that if we put it in less, you have it
- 35:53because there are four things counted
- 35:55and more with English because for some
- 35:57reason 95%of people speak it better or
- 35:59worse, but they do speak it. That's
- 36:01because it's the easiest language in
- 36:03the world
- 36:04and that's why it's the vehicular
- 36:05language and the one that everyone uses
- 36:06.
- 36:06More than in Spanish, of course, with
- 36:07all these cases that you just mentioned
- 36:09, come on, it's very clear. I mean, if
- 36:10right now it were a foreigner who spoke
- 36:12Spanish, it would be much more
- 36:13complicated
- 36:14than the other way around. Of course,
- 36:15now we're working on it, uh, seeing how
- 36:17to turn this around. Well, I would tell
- 36:19him that the first few days he should
- 36:20only use the r,
- 36:22I to eat, I to go, I to live and that's
- 36:25it. I can't complicate his life with
- 36:27conjugations from the first day. He'll
- 36:29go crazy
- 36:30because the goal is to communicate, to
- 36:33convey what you want to say. Well,
- 36:36start with the easy part,
- 36:37so you are understood. And for that, as
- 36:39you said, reasoning is necessary.
- 36:40Pronunciation has been made clear. We
- 36:42have also seen that in the vocabulary
- 36:44section,
- 36:45the first words we have to learn are
- 36:47100, 200 verbs. That's it, even less,
- 36:50but that should get you started.
- 36:53After the verbs, what would be the next
- 36:55pillar? Would it still be vocabulary or
- 36:58would there be another layer?
- 37:01There is a single word that can be used
- 37:03to represent anything and I'm already
- 37:05saying it. What word is it? I want to
- 37:10refer to this, or this, this thing,
- 37:13this thing. And then you can ask, "Hey,
- 37:15how do you say this? How do you say
- 37:17this in English?" Mike, perfect,
- 37:20but I don't need more. That comes from
- 37:23daily practice. I don't need to learn
- 37:26vocabulary, nouns, things, anything. Do
- 37:29you understand? Yes.
- 37:29And like adverbs, links. There is a
- 37:31single two-letter word that works for
- 37:33everything. Elque, therefore. So,
- 37:36that's it. But no, people, but why
- 37:42don't you need that to start? Do it
- 37:44later if you want, but don't beat
- 37:46yourself up. You just
- 37:47need verbs to speak. That's it. If you
- 37:50press me, the subjects, because of
- 37:52course, since there are no conjugations
- 37:53in English, I need to say who I'm
- 37:55talking about. Ah, you, that's it. But
- 37:58you don't need anything else, man.
- 37:59Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. For
- 38:01example, something I force myself to do
- 38:03, I used to work, I worked in an
- 38:05international English team. Yeah.
- 38:08When I left that company, my English
- 38:09disappeared and I started doing
- 38:11business, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
- 38:12blah. And I understand English
- 38:14perfectly. I watch videos in English, I
- 38:15can watch movies in English perfectly.
- 38:18Um, I can read English, more slowly,
- 38:20but I can read English, but when I
- 38:21start talking, it's much harder for me,
- 38:24right? What happens? I say at those
- 38:27times, I say, well, I'll put on the
- 38:30series, it's
- 38:31harder for me, but I try to put them on
- 38:32in English,
- 38:33okay? Uh, here comes the
- 38:36issue of subtitles.
- 38:36Famous issue. That's
- 38:39how we should use subtitles if we watch
- 38:41a series or a movie in English.
- 38:42Okay. My recommendation is to always
- 38:45use subtitles. Alright, now, what is it
- 38:48that everyone does? What is it that
- 38:50they always do? Use them in what
- 38:52language?
- 38:53In Spanish.
- 38:53In Spanish. And the audio? In English,
- 38:56right? Do you think you learn that way?
- 38:59I don't
- 39:00know. We're going to go over it
- 39:02quickly, okay? And I also encourage
- 39:04everyone to try it. First question, and
- 39:06this is what we've talked about before,
- 39:09since it's new, since no one has told
- 39:10you before, for whatever reason it
- 39:12scares me and I don't want to do it
- 39:14because I learned English the other way
- 39:16. Advice, never ever. Okay, I hope it
- 39:22is perfectly clear that you must never
- 39:24use Spanish subtitles because you will
- 39:27destroy the way your brain functions,
- 39:29all right? If you're listening to
- 39:31English and you don't have a good level
- 39:33of English and you put a subtitle below
- 39:36in Spanish, where's your attention
- 39:37going to go? It's going to
- 39:39go to the subtitle.
- 39:39To the Spanish subtitle. You're only
- 39:41going to hear noise in English. Yes.
- 39:43Okay. Ideally, everything should be in
- 39:45English, audio and subtitle,
- 39:47okay? To see the direct equivalence
- 39:48between what I'm listening to and what
- 39:50I'm reading.
- 39:51But what if I don't have a good level
- 39:52of English?
- 39:54How do I learn English? The only way is
- 39:57to put on the audio in Spanish so that
- 40:00your brain is already relaxed,
- 40:01understanding everything it's hearing,
- 40:04but at the same time you're reading the
- 40:06structure of English below.
- 40:08English subtitle.
- 40:09English subtitle. In
- 40:11other words, subtitles.
- 40:12Spanish subtitle,
- 40:14regardless of the language. Subtitles.
- 40:17In English,
- 40:18regardless of the language, right? Be
- 40:20careful, it depends on the target
- 40:21language you're learning.
- 40:23I mean in the case of Spanish or
- 40:24English,
- 40:24okay?
- 40:25Always English subtitles,
- 40:26always.
- 40:27If you don't know, if you don't know,
- 40:29to recap, if you don't know English and
- 40:30you want to learn English, apart from
- 40:32listening to this podcast until the end
- 40:33,
- 40:34what you have to do is subscribe,
- 40:37of course, to the newsletter, because
- 40:39we have a little gift prepared, right,
- 40:40Pablo? Exactly. Yes, yes. The 200
- 40:43little words that we are talking about.
- 40:45I promise to...
- 40:47Well, Pablo is going to give us a list
- 40:48there so that all those who are
- 40:49starting to speak English from scratch,
- 40:51well, you have them there. Those who
- 40:52already know English also have some
- 40:53surprises that we haven't thought of,
- 40:55so we are not going to tell you, but
- 40:56you also have some surprises that will
- 40:57be useful to you. And, of course, as
- 40:59you know: our newsletter, where every
- 41:00week I personally send you a piece of
- 41:02advice that will help you achieve your
- 41:04goals, because that's what this podcast
- 41:06is about. Personal advice, either from
- 41:08my companies or from the guests who
- 41:10come here, many of whom, well, all have
- 41:13a lot of knowledge and experience to
- 41:15contribute that will help you. With
- 41:18that aside, we were talking about
- 41:21subtitles. If I don't know any English
- 41:24and I want to start learning English,
- 41:25in addition to what we've said,
- 41:28what I have to do is put on the English
- 41:30subtitles
- 41:30with the Spanish audio.
- 41:32Exactly. In
- 41:33order to be able to follow along, right
- 41:34?
- 41:34In order to be able to see, to be able
- 41:36to see the equivalence, okay? Mind you,
- 41:38not the translation, because many
- 41:39people say, "But it never matches."
- 41:41It's impossible,
- 41:42okay? Making what you're listening
- 41:44match what you're reading, the
- 41:45translations that are made, is another
- 41:47issue. Because that's a matter of
- 41:49voiceover and dubbing where you have to
- 41:51fit the mouth, the sounds match and you
- 41:53adapt and fix it, but the meaning, the
- 41:55context in the end has to be the same.
- 41:58Therefore, you don't need literalness
- 42:01between what you hear and what you read
- 42:02. You need the context to be the same.
- 42:05And your goal, and this is what we work
- 42:07on in class, is for you to understand
- 42:09the written structure of English,
- 42:10okay? You are already understanding
- 42:12Spanish, it is effortless, you do it
- 42:14naturally. Now understand what is
- 42:15written there in English, because most
- 42:18of the time it won't match, but you are
- 42:20seeing a native structure in English.
- 42:22Learn that and start looking for those
- 42:25equivalencies. It is possible that in
- 42:27the audio you are listening to a
- 42:29present tense and in English you are
- 42:31seeing a well or you hear a future
- 42:32tense and they put a down. Okay, the
- 42:34translation is not literal, but the
- 42:36equivalency is what will allow you to
- 42:38understand what you are reading and
- 42:40understand the structure of the
- 42:42language. This is vital because if you
- 42:45don't end up reading Spanish. There are
- 42:47many people who tell me, "I learned
- 42:49English like this, listening to English
- 42:51and subtitles in Spanish
- 42:52and I've been like this for 30 years."
- 42:53It's true.
- 42:5430 years.
- 42:5530 years. Okay, of course, of course.
- 42:56That's where the problem lies. 30 years
- 42:58.
- 42:59Nowadays, who has 30 years to do that?
- 43:01Or who has started when they were
- 43:02little, hey, perfect, good for you. But
- 43:04try this because you are going to flip
- 43:05out. That's how I do it, with English
- 43:08and any other language. I
- 43:09mean, the one thing that has become
- 43:10clear to me is that you must never,
- 43:12under any circumstances, set the
- 43:13subtitles to be in Spanish.
- 43:14Never. Never in Spanish. You'll mess up
- 43:16the mechanics of your brain.
- 43:18Never do that.
- 43:19Funny, man. Well, look, I'm the first
- 43:21one, huh? Who did it. Of course.
- 43:23Very good.
- 43:24Okay, now we have the outline, I'm
- 43:26having it super hard in my head.
- 43:29How to speak English well or how to
- 43:31learn a language correctly in the
- 43:32shortest time possible
- 43:34with the goal of communicating.
- 43:36The first thing we've already said was
- 43:38that reasoning along with the
- 43:39pronunciation that you know how to
- 43:41pronounce hand in hand.
- 43:42Vocabulary. We start with the verbs.
- 43:45Then, uh, thing.
- 43:48Yes, we start with the verbs and end
- 43:50with the verbs. I mean, regarding those
- 43:52things, I ask how do you say this in
- 43:54English. That's it. You ask the person
- 43:56how to say this, whatever you need, and
- 43:58you know it.
- 43:59How to watch series? How to watch
- 44:00movies properly so as not to burden the
- 44:02mechanics of the brain and to
- 44:04effectively learn whether we are
- 44:05starting from scratch or if we want to
- 44:07improve our English?
- 44:08Ex. In addition to this, I think there
- 44:11is another issue that worried me,
- 44:13because when they are not learning and
- 44:16it works by contagion, and the issue of
- 44:18job interviews, man, because I knew
- 44:20that at some point in the job interview
- 44:23the
- 44:24English was going to change at any
- 44:25moment, you know? Because they also
- 44:27warned you, hey, you know that at some
- 44:28point I am suddenly going to start
- 44:29speaking in English, so of course, here
- 44:31I was really freaked out because I
- 44:32thought, [ __ ], what if they don't ask
- 44:33me what I haven't prepared for and such
- 44:35and such. So, for all those people
- 44:37listening to us who have to, well, now
- 44:39we'll talk about something else that
- 44:41I'm not going to reveal yet,
- 44:43but for all those people listening to
- 44:44us who have an interview coming up or
- 44:46are looking for a job and know that
- 44:48they're going to be asked English
- 44:50because they always ask English,
- 44:52what advice could you give them to
- 44:53prepare for this in the best possible
- 44:55way and above all to overcome that fear
- 44:57? You said it, you have to prepare.
- 45:01There you go. The question now is, how
- 45:03do I prepare for that? What typical
- 45:05questions do they ask you in an
- 45:06interview in English? What are they?
- 45:08Hey, why do you want this job? What are
- 45:11your strengths? Uh, your weaknesses
- 45:13that you're good at, they're always the
- 45:15same. It's obvious, man. Prepare for
- 45:17that. Prepare for that. Now we're back
- 45:21to the same thing. How do I prepare for
- 45:23those structures or those questions?
- 45:25What do I do? Do I memorize the phrases
- 45:28? Would you do it like that?
- 45:29No, not now.
- 45:30Of course, I did
- 45:30before. I used to do it like that,
- 45:32actually,
- 45:32and everyone else does it,
- 45:33and that's why it scared me, because
- 45:35since I was relying on memory, I mean,
- 45:36if someone asks me something I haven't
- 45:38memorized, I might mess it up.
- 45:39Exactly.
- 45:40I learn a sentence that I want to say
- 45:42and since I don't understand it, I've
- 45:43simply memorized it, how do I bring it
- 45:45back to my head later? I forget. And
- 45:48what happens to people? Blank paper.
- 45:51[ __ ], that's it. You have to have a
- 45:53clear structure in your head and you
- 45:55can say whatever you want, whatever,
- 45:57but if you don't have that clear
- 45:59structure, you're going to go blank and
- 46:01you're going to get blocked. In other
- 46:04words, preparing the questions that are
- 46:05always the same. We can also add a
- 46:07little humor in there if we want,
- 46:08because that always relieves tension,
- 46:10okay?
- 46:11But hey, worry about understanding how
- 46:13the language works at a basic level
- 46:15first. We saw it today at the beginning
- 46:17, there are four things. Keep that
- 46:19clear and the tension will
- 46:20automatically go down from here to here
- 46:22. You're always going to be a little
- 46:23nervous.
- 46:23Well, that's inevitable, right? But in
- 46:25the end, you gain that confidence in
- 46:27knowing that, no matter what they ask
- 46:28you, if you know this, if you know what
- 46:30we've covered, these keys, these, this
- 46:32step-by-step process that we've
- 46:34revealed here, it's not that
- 46:35complicated. Let's say,
- 46:37if you want, we can also send your
- 46:39people a video where I explain the
- 46:40seven typical questions that they
- 46:41always ask you and how to prepare for
- 46:43each one of them. Go ahead, tell us
- 46:45some and we'll send the rest to those
- 46:47who subscribe.
- 46:48Tell us some. Well, it's just a matter
- 46:51of having a bit of humor too and hey,
- 46:53what works for you? Or why do you want
- 46:55this position?
- 46:57Something as simple as that never fails
- 46:59. Why do you want this? Well, that's
- 47:01obvious, that's obvious, but the truth
- 47:03is that there are many people who
- 47:04didn't even prepare for it or anything.
- 47:06Why do you want this position? And then
- 47:08they often asked me, tell me about a
- 47:10situation, well, let's give an example,
- 47:12right? If you're applying for a
- 47:13managerial position,
- 47:14a manager has to have leadership.
- 47:16Sure.
- 47:17If you have to manage people, and when
- 47:18you manage people, leadership is
- 47:20essential. Sure.
- 47:21So I remember someone asked me, "Tell
- 47:23me about a situation in which you
- 47:26showed leadership,
- 47:27for example." It's that
- 47:28simple. You have to have
- 47:29a super open-ended question at the end,
- 47:30right?
- 47:31Sure, but the more open-ended it is,
- 47:33the better for you, because you can
- 47:35always go off on a tangent and answer
- 47:37something different or related, but it
- 47:40will always lead you to the same thing.
- 47:42You've already thought about this at
- 47:44home, a situation in which you've shown
- 47:46leadership. Well, who knows? Well, look
- 47:48, I helped my friend when I don't know
- 47:50what. It's like, "help my friend when I
- 47:53was 20 years old." It's just that I
- 47:56don't really
- 47:56need anything else,
- 47:57but it's not even necessary to ask
- 47:59these questions because in the end,
- 48:00it's as simple as applying what we're
- 48:01already talking about.
- 48:02And I'll go further. Perfect. You've
- 48:04prepared seven questions. Great. The
- 48:07moment you pronounce almost like a
- 48:09native, tell me what happens in that
- 48:11interview.
- 48:12They automatically assume
- 48:14that you already speak English and cut
- 48:15it off. Yes,
- 48:16but if you say, "When I was young, uh,
- 48:20I think it was good." That's when it
- 48:22continues to impress you.
- 48:24Sure, sure, sure.
- 48:25But if you simply start with that
- 48:26sentence, well, it doesn't
- 48:28last as long as expected. That's it.
- 48:30Why? Because by doing this, you're
- 48:32practically going to have a higher
- 48:34level than your interviewer, at least
- 48:36in terms of pronunciation. The
- 48:37interviewer gets scared and
- 48:39automatically says, "Okay, okay, let's
- 48:41continue. The interview in English is
- 48:44over and you may know 200 words, but
- 48:46you also pronounce that it's done.
- 48:49Yes, check. That's it, check.
- 48:52No, no, great. I want to talk about
- 48:55your academy, Pablo, because you also
- 48:56have the language and communication
- 48:58academy, which is Payb Learn. You have
- 49:01already helped hundreds of students,
- 49:05let's say, thousands,
- 49:06thousands, even
- 49:07thousands of students who have passed
- 49:08through your academy
- 49:09with a promise of fraud.
- 49:12Yes, yes, it's a total scam
- 49:14and it means you can learn English or
- 49:17any other language.
- 49:18Yeah.
- 49:19In 30 days. Of course, I hear this
- 49:21because I know you and I know that the
- 49:22fraud thing is a joke, obviously, and I
- 49:24know that's how it is,
- 49:26but there are people who might hear,
- 49:27learn English in 30 days and the good
- 49:29thing is they're going to say," Here
- 49:31comes the fraud, this guy, he sells
- 49:32courses
- 49:33and he only wants my money and this is
- 49:34worthless, it's another internet scam.
- 49:36"Exactly.
- 49:37What would you say to all those people
- 49:40who might come to consider that? And
- 49:42why is it legitimate for them to be
- 49:43considering such a thing? Because the
- 49:44educational system has taught us to
- 49:47speak a language in a limited amount of
- 49:49time because you never end up speaking
- 49:51a language well
- 49:52if you only follow the educational
- 49:53system, but it has taught us to speak a
- 49:55language in a long time.
- 49:57So,
- 49:57I completely understand someone who
- 49:59thinks that speaking a language in 30
- 50:01days is impossible. So, what would you
- 50:03say to people like this who might think
- 50:05that?
- 50:05Note that you just gave the answer now.
- 50:07You said speaking instead of learning.
- 50:09Yes, but first a nuance. I have
- 50:12students who are 50 years old who don't
- 50:14speak English, I mean, they haven't
- 50:16even learned in 50 years. How could
- 50:18they not be shocked to hear a guy who
- 50:20just came out here and said that yes,
- 50:21in 30 days, in a month, you can do it?
- 50:24We just demonstrated it here today.
- 50:26Knowing what we saw at the beginning
- 50:28and understanding that, you can start
- 50:29speaking. And that's the difference.
- 50:31The first thing I tell them, because
- 50:33many people ask me this, is," I didn't
- 50:35tell you that you're going to learn in
- 50:3730 days. I told you that you're going
- 50:39to what? In 30 days, learn, not
- 50:42communicate,
- 50:43speak, communicate. That's it.
- 50:45And that's the goal, to
- 50:47communicate in a language in the
- 50:49shortest possible time. You have your
- 50:51whole life to keep learning as such.
- 50:53I'm still learning English and other
- 50:55languages, but damn, if it's just
- 50:58speaking it, in one day I can be
- 51:00speaking a new language, communicating
- 51:03effectively to get out of any problem
- 51:05or situation,
- 51:06because you only need those four or
- 51:08five little legs of the language. Of
- 51:11course it's possible and in less, in 30
- 51:13days and less, as long as you want it
- 51:15and have the enthusiasm of that child
- 51:17you once were and say, "Come on, I
- 51:19believe it. I'm open to everything and
- 51:21I learn because this is true." Of all
- 51:25the people who start with you at Pable
- 51:28Earn,
- 51:29what do you think are the mistakes or
- 51:32the thoughts or all those circumstances
- 51:37that prevented them or those blocks
- 51:39that they had that as soon as you
- 51:41removed them with whatever you told
- 51:43them, taught them, they immediately
- 51:45learned, you know? And they accelerated
- 51:48their pace a lot.
- 51:48Mm, let them think in Spanish, everyone
- 51:51makes the same mistake and I tell them
- 51:53and I insist on it in the first class,
- 51:55look at these equivalencies, use them.
- 51:58The mistake is that they keep bringing
- 51:59them from memory. Come on, let's say if
- 52:02I had a good teacher. If I would have I
- 52:04will have. You're not reasoning. You're
- 52:07going back to the same thing again.
- 52:09Think in Spanish. First learn Spanish
- 52:12and how you speak. Then everything
- 52:14flows. That's it. Then the smart guy on
- 52:17duty will come along and say, "No, but
- 52:19it's also used for I used to play.""I
- 52:20don't think so, I don't need that right
- 52:22now. I'll learn it later. I
- 52:25would go, I would go. You would go, he
- 52:27would go. I will go, you're done.
- 52:29That's enough for me to start and it's
- 52:31not even worth putting labels on,
- 52:33because I've forgotten all of them and
- 52:35I'm passionate about grammar, but I
- 52:37don't learn labels anymore. It's just
- 52:39that it's useless to me. If we really
- 52:42do this process for each language in a
- 52:45year, how many languages can we speak
- 52:47in a year? We're
- 52:48not going to say, obviously, that we
- 52:50can speak as perfectly as a professor,
- 52:51but
- 52:51you know, of course, you know what
- 52:52happens, there aren't many geeks like
- 52:54me, I
- 52:54mean, we're polyglots because we're
- 52:55passionate about this,
- 52:56but a guy who likes languages, not like
- 52:59you, but who knows, someone who likes
- 53:01to travel and this year I'm going to
- 53:04London and I don't know, Germany. You
- 53:06go to Berlin and you have to learn the
- 53:08basics of German. Perfect.
- 53:10How long would it take me for
- 53:13an afternoon? Maybe the pronunciation
- 53:15will take a while. A little bit more.
- 53:17It's okay. It's about knowing how to
- 53:18place this. All human beings, human
- 53:20beings have this. Learn how to place it
- 53:22and learn how to reproduce the sounds.
- 53:24It's going to say," I want to drink
- 53:26water. "I want to drink water. You say
- 53:28drinken. And I'm using exactly the same
- 53:31thing. The order of two words has
- 53:32changed there. End is the same. If it's
- 53:36Chinese, h is over and I'm saying four
- 53:40things, four yes.
- 53:41But I don't know chen or German.
- 53:43Sure, then later on, but then we
- 53:44subtitle it and put it so that people
- 53:46can see in color that each thing
- 53:48represents exactly the same thing, only
- 53:50that it is represented by different
- 53:52symbols. Within Europe, well, we all
- 53:54have our alphabet, Cyrillic has its own
- 53:56, perfect. Chinese, Japanese, are
- 53:59pictographic, they are little drawings
- 54:01that represent concepts and that sound
- 54:03a certain way, but that still have the
- 54:05same function in the sentence. I have
- 54:07my subject, my verb and whatever.
- 54:10And everything works the same. Learn to
- 54:12pronounce this. Learn to place all this
- 54:15. If you're a human being, you can do
- 54:17it. If you don't, it's because you're
- 54:19lazy.
- 54:20Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, good
- 54:22masterclass, uh,
- 54:22in languages, no, no, completely.
- 54:24We need to complicate the sentence a
- 54:25bit. A little bit, the one before, huh?
- 54:26Let's see how it goes. Remember, remind
- 54:28me of the time. If I had a good teacher
- 54:31, I would learn English.
- 54:37Perfect. Now you've done the
- 54:38translation. Could you explain it to
- 54:39someone who's starting from scratch in
- 54:41English?
- 54:42Yes.
- 54:42Okay. How would you explain that if I
- 54:44had a good teacher? You said," If I had
- 54:46a
- 54:47good teacher. ""
- 54:48First I would say, "Okay, if I had a
- 54:49good teacher I would have." What's the
- 54:50first thing? It's the verb tense.
- 54:52Exactly. I'll go to the verb.
- 54:53Sure.
- 54:54First the verb had. Okay, we have the
- 54:56verb. To have there. I can see that
- 54:57it's a past tense. Great.
- 54:58Past. Keep going, keep going. Let's see
- 55:00, you know.
- 55:00If I, if I had, well, like in teacher,
- 55:02a good teacher, this is to see the
- 55:03words as they say, that's it. The
- 55:05translation is the same, it's word for
- 55:06word.
- 55:07A good teacher, a good teacher.
- 55:11I would learn English, right?
- 55:12Mm.
- 55:13I would learn. That's a
- 55:15conditional.
- 55:16Okay. Whether it's called a conditional
- 55:18. I don't care. I don't care. It's just
- 55:20that it's useless to me. The I, you
- 55:21know, the IA is the will.
- 55:23The will, the
- 55:24would, sorry. The would. So it's I
- 55:26would learn English. That's it. That's
- 55:29it. You add the W that replaces the
- 55:31conjugation. That's it. That's it. Do
- 55:34you want to complicate that sentence
- 55:35verbally?
- 55:36Come on, okay.
- 55:36Okay.
- 55:37If I had a good teacher, I would have
- 55:40learned English. All I did was put
- 55:43something in there. It
- 55:45would have had. It's still past tense.
- 55:47Okay, but now, how many verbs do we
- 55:49have?
- 55:49Two have. and had.
- 55:51And I have to know what those verbs are
- 55:53.
- 55:54Okay.
- 55:54Okay. That had is clear. We have the
- 55:57heard side before the verb to have.
- 55:59Let's see if it is or if we are facing
- 56:01an exception here. Now let's reason it
- 56:02out regularly or whatever.
- 56:03Here we have put the would have in
- 56:05front.
- 56:05Okay.
- 56:05Okay. We have complicated things. What
- 56:08is that would have?
- 56:11It would have is the same as, that is,
- 56:12it is still past tense.
- 56:13Okay, we detected that would have had
- 56:15which we don't care what it is called.
- 56:18I don't give a damn. I know it is past
- 56:19tense, but let's see what verb it is.
- 56:21Would have had to have to have is
- 56:24had, but if there had, if I can't
- 56:25recognize it in my language, I'm
- 56:27screwed.
- 56:27It is, that is, the tob to be
- 56:29to be,
- 56:31that would be, would be
- 56:33half
- 56:34the to see from before. Yes, yes, yes,
- 56:36yes, yes.
- 56:36But now, in What tense? I'm not in the
- 56:38present tense anymore.
- 56:39The "habría" now, what tense is it?
- 56:41Past. So it's "had." That's it. And
- 56:44that "had," well, then "have" is not
- 56:46regular. I can't put "have," I
- 56:49mean, it's "had" had. It's also "have."
- 56:53We'll
- 56:53subtitle this later, okay? So people
- 56:54can see it and see what it's like.
- 56:56If I had hat, that's it.
- 56:57Double "hat," that's it. Now, now, that
- 57:00"hat" is the same, the first and the
- 57:01second. They have nothing to do with
- 57:03each other. An
- 57:04English verb where the same verb is
- 57:07used
- 57:08for both things. But I have to know how
- 57:10to recognize that. If I had had a good
- 57:13teacher. If I had had a good teacher.
- 57:17One "had" and the other "had" have
- 57:18nothing in common. They're two
- 57:19different verbs, but they're written
- 57:20the same. "habría" and "habría," okay
- 57:23, I won't repeat it, "habría," I'm
- 57:25already using "habría" ahead. If I had
- 57:27had a good teacher, I would have
- 57:28learned English. People are always "
- 57:30habría,""habría,""habría,""habría."
- 57:31That's a problem for English. I
- 57:33would have learned English like I do
- 57:35now. Just like before, but with have I
- 57:40have to admit that it would have become
- 57:41the auxiliary again.
- 57:43As I say,
- 57:44have I would have learn.
- 57:47That would have been a good teacher. I
- 57:49would have a good teacher. I told you I
- 57:51would have learned. I would have
- 57:52learned. I would have learned with Ed a
- 57:56good teacher.
- 57:58And look how my neurons are here.
- 58:01How did you reason now? But this is
- 58:03[ __ ] awesome.
- 58:04Yes,
- 58:05because you never forget it.
- 58:08In life
- 58:09I would have I recognize that it is the
- 58:11truth let's see that it has the W in
- 58:12front would have and now he has learned
- 58:15yes learn
- 58:17the whole sentence. If I had had a good
- 58:18teacher I would have learned English.
- 58:20Tell me.
- 58:21If I had had a good teacher. I would
- 58:27have
- 58:28I would have learned English. Exactly.
- 58:32There it would be. Okay. Have and now
- 58:34it has been learned. It is impossible
- 58:36for you to forget it. Yes, impossible.
- 58:40And then put the subtitles in English
- 58:41and you'll flip out, kid.
- 58:42Of course, now is when I read the
- 58:44English. First I need that little base,
- 58:46otherwise it doesn't make sense either.
- 58:47And now is when I start to Reading the
- 58:50English subtitles and recognizing all
- 58:52these structures is foolproof.
- 58:54Foolproof.
- 58:55Why doesn't anyone do it? Well, because
- 58:57people are afraid of change,
- 58:58because English is taught
- 58:59poorly, period.
- 59:02Hey, what do you think? Because I see a
- 59:04lot of friends who are hooked, man,
- 59:06on these apps that we're not going to
- 59:07advertise here because this podcast is
- 59:09going to reach a lot of people,
- 59:11right? But seriously, dueling and all
- 59:12that stuff, there are a lot of people
- 59:14who are addicted to those types of apps
- 59:15. I have friends who are into
- 59:16Portuguese with such and such
- 59:18and you really see them and say, "I
- 59:19haven't done doing such and such, but
- 59:20then really if they don't know, they
- 59:22don't know how to speak it, they know a
- 59:23word, they know loose vocabulary, but
- 59:24you don't care about loose vocabulary
- 59:25because you want to speak it and loose
- 59:27vocabulary is useless for speaking.
- 59:28What do you think of all these types of
- 59:29apps? Do they really work? Do they not
- 59:31work? We've
- 59:31seen it before, they don't work. But
- 59:33even for me, who already has a command
- 59:35of languages, I've tried to learn
- 59:37languages
- 59:38and it's unfeasible because I don't,
- 59:39the app doesn't teach me the essence of
- 59:41the language, it doesn't teach me the
- 59:43structures, it gives me translations,
- 59:46equivalencies that it doesn't explain
- 59:47to me. It's impossible to learn like
- 59:49that.
- 59:49What happens? These apps give you a
- 59:51very high dopamine level with the
- 59:53prizes. It's like a slot machine. Eh,
- 59:55that's how it works. Hey, if you want
- 59:57to have a good time, it's fine. Clin
- 59:58clin, clin clin, prize, period, you're
- 1:00:00first, you're second,
- 1:00:01you catch up with your friends, and so
- 1:00:03on. It's
- 1:00:03ego. You were talking to each other
- 1:00:05before, it's ego. So it doesn't go any
- 1:00:07further. You don't learn, you don't
- 1:00:08learn.
- 1:00:09One very important thing, a very
- 1:00:12important example of this that a
- 1:00:14student told me the other day, the
- 1:00:17sentence was salmon, okay? I want
- 1:00:19salmon. You directly say, I want salmon
- 1:00:23, okay? Simple, let's not complicate
- 1:00:26things. It said in English I'll have
- 1:00:31the salmon. I have the salmon,
- 1:00:34right? I will have salmon.
- 1:00:37And I translated it as I want the
- 1:00:38salmon or I want salmon. Tell me what
- 1:00:41the problem is automatically there.
- 1:00:44Well, it's not like what we've seen
- 1:00:45before, it's all over the place. Come
- 1:00:47on,
- 1:00:47if you put it in English, I'm starting
- 1:00:49from scratch, okay? I will have the
- 1:00:51salmon.
- 1:00:52I good.
- 1:00:52I will.
- 1:00:53Ah, I will. Okay, future. It could be I
- 1:00:55would. In this case, it was I will.
- 1:00:56Future. I will have
- 1:00:57future. I will have the salmon. I will
- 1:00:59have
- 1:00:59the salmon. What happens with have?
- 1:01:01Which also means to take in English.
- 1:01:02Yes.
- 1:01:03Okay. So, what he's saying is I will
- 1:01:04take the salmon. Ah, where's
- 1:01:06the problem? When I go down to the
- 1:01:08solution, which is where the
- 1:01:09seriousness of the matter lies, it says
- 1:01:11," I want,
- 1:01:11the salmon. "
- 1:01:12Of course. You're learning incorrectly.
- 1:01:14Why? I mean, what's happening there at
- 1:01:16the level of equivalences? You're
- 1:01:19telling him
- 1:01:19that you don't speak, you don't speak
- 1:01:20Spanish like that.
- 1:01:22But why? What's happening at the
- 1:01:23structural level of verbs? Above, what
- 1:01:25tense am I speaking in?
- 1:01:27Future.
- 1:01:28I'll take it,
- 1:01:29below it says I want. What tense am I
- 1:01:31speaking in there?
- 1:01:31Present. It is not associated. Do
- 1:01:33you realize how life works?
- 1:01:35People learn that I will have the
- 1:01:37salmon is I want the salmon and the
- 1:01:39moment they have to use each of those
- 1:01:41structures separately, they say, I
- 1:01:43mean, they can tell you not only not to
- 1:01:44learn English, but to learn it badly.
- 1:01:46Of course that is what everyone has
- 1:01:48done, learn it badly. Because yes,
- 1:01:50memory goes up to a certain point, you
- 1:01:51can memorize 10, 20 sentences. Perfect.
- 1:01:53Do it with the question, what is your
- 1:01:54name?
- 1:01:55Here the problem is if you have a
- 1:01:56little English you don't identify it,
- 1:01:57but if you learn from scratch, that's
- 1:01:58when they trick you.
- 1:01:58Of course. And even if you know English
- 1:02:01, uh, I will have. Okay, that's how
- 1:02:03it's said in English.
- 1:02:04Ah, okay, well now yes, such and such.
- 1:02:06What I should have put below in the
- 1:02:07Spanish translation, what would it be?
- 1:02:09And this is the reverse analysis. In
- 1:02:11English, perfect. I will have the
- 1:02:13salmon. Okay. What should I have put
- 1:02:15below in the translation instead of I
- 1:02:16want the salmon?
- 1:02:17To say I want the salmon. Translate
- 1:02:19what's in English.
- 1:02:20I will have the salmon.
- 1:02:22I'll take the salmon. That's it, man.
- 1:02:24Sure.
- 1:02:26How can you put I want there? And it's
- 1:02:28supposed to be linguists who do this,
- 1:02:30but then I've spoken to philosophers or
- 1:02:32philosophers who are philologists who
- 1:02:33have told me that they have a C2 in
- 1:02:35English and that they don't dare to say
- 1:02:37a word in English.
- 1:02:38Why is that? Because we're not doing
- 1:02:41things right there. That a philologist
- 1:02:45who is an expert in grammar, who knows
- 1:02:47all the labels, tells you
- 1:02:49his own word, uh, I don't dare to say a
- 1:02:51word in English. It's very serious, huh
- 1:02:53? It's very serious that a person who
- 1:02:56doesn't know...
- 1:02:57Yeah, yeah, of course, no idea. Yeah,
- 1:02:58yeah,
- 1:02:58imagine, imagine.
- 1:03:01Hey, what do you think too? I'm curious
- 1:03:02because, well, now we're experiencing a
- 1:03:04real boom in artificial intelligence.
- 1:03:06How do you think this will affect
- 1:03:09languages? This is more of a reflection
- 1:03:12of yours, because of course, there
- 1:03:14comes a time when, well, I've seen
- 1:03:16people who don't speak Spanish with
- 1:03:18these simultaneous translation
- 1:03:20earpieces, you know?
- 1:03:22Uh, by artificial intelligence, where
- 1:03:24there's not even a translator on the
- 1:03:25other side translating in real time,
- 1:03:27but rather the earpiece translates it
- 1:03:29for you directly. Do
- 1:03:30you think there will come a time when
- 1:03:32learning languages won't be necessary?
- 1:03:35Learning languages, no. In no case. And
- 1:03:37I'll tell you why now, but the
- 1:03:39profession of human translator is
- 1:03:41really screwed up.
- 1:03:42Of course,
- 1:03:43because you're going to need a person
- 1:03:45by your side who can make mistakes and
- 1:03:47can be slower to translate if you have
- 1:03:49an earpiece that does it automatically.
- 1:03:52I mean, that's great and unbeatable. I
- 1:03:55think translators will need it, maybe
- 1:03:56this generates a little controversy,
- 1:03:57but that's what we're here for. I'm
- 1:03:59just making a warning. If I were a
- 1:04:00translator, which I thought about at
- 1:04:02the time and discarded for certain
- 1:04:04reasons, I would be even less likely to
- 1:04:06do something else because nowadays an
- 1:04:08AI,
- 1:04:09for example, set up a translation
- 1:04:11company with AI. For example, get on
- 1:04:13the AI bandwagon and train it yourself,
- 1:04:16and you know how to train a translation
- 1:04:18AI because you have that knowledge, but
- 1:04:21if I dedicate myself exclusively to
- 1:04:23translating, I am at a great
- 1:04:25disadvantage. If the AI sounds okay to
- 1:04:27you, then it is perfect for doing this.
- 1:04:30Great. Speaking a language is another
- 1:04:32matter. What happens if you talk to a
- 1:04:34person face to face in their language?
- 1:04:36How is that different from talking with
- 1:04:38an earpiece?
- 1:04:39Sure. The connection you generate with
- 1:04:41that person is incomparable.
- 1:04:42We are human beings, of course. I was
- 1:04:44in California a little while ago and
- 1:04:46the guy from Apple was telling me that
- 1:04:47there will come a time when this is
- 1:04:49going to be a zoo. Everyone in their
- 1:04:51own home, there won't be any work,
- 1:04:52there won't be any doing, and
- 1:04:54everything will work itself out, maybe
- 1:04:56at that great moment, but today what we
- 1:04:58know is that we are social beings and
- 1:05:00that we need to relate to each other.
- 1:05:01Absolutely.
- 1:05:02Whoever manages to generate a
- 1:05:04conversation, direct communication with
- 1:05:07another human being, is here. Whoever
- 1:05:10doesn't want to do that is here. And
- 1:05:13each person, hey, makes their own
- 1:05:15decision.
- 1:05:15No, no, 100%. Pablo, let's go to a
- 1:05:18section that we always have in the
- 1:05:20podcast, which if you've seen some and
- 1:05:21I know you have, you know it, is the
- 1:05:23one about myths and truths.
- 1:05:24Myths and truths.
- 1:05:25Okay, I'm going to tell you statements
- 1:05:28and you have to argue whether it's a
- 1:05:29myth
- 1:05:30or a truth. Okay,
- 1:05:32interesting. Okay,
- 1:05:34so let's go with the first one. Pablo,
- 1:05:37English is taught badly,
- 1:05:39very badly, right? Right? English and
- 1:05:41everything and maths and physics,
- 1:05:43everything.
- 1:05:43Yes, yes, yes. I agree. I mean, the
- 1:05:45entire episode argues that this is the
- 1:05:47case.
- 1:05:48It's proven.
- 1:05:50Pablo, the most important thing if you
- 1:05:51want to learn English or any language
- 1:05:53is grammar.
- 1:05:55Define grammar. If grammar is what we
- 1:05:58just did with equivalencies, it's vital
- 1:06:01. If grammar is learning that the
- 1:06:03adjective goes before the noun, that
- 1:06:04this is called the conditional, that
- 1:06:05this is the past perfect, that this I
- 1:06:07don't know what else. Okay, do it
- 1:06:09yourself if you want. That's not how
- 1:06:11you learn.
- 1:06:11No, we've already seen that it's not
- 1:06:13either.
- 1:06:15To learn a language, the best thing is
- 1:06:17to go and live in a foreign country for
- 1:06:19a while.
- 1:06:22I mean to learn from scratch, yes. Or
- 1:06:26well, even if you have a foundation.
- 1:06:27What happens when you go to a foreign
- 1:06:29country? The first group of friends you
- 1:06:31make are Spanish.
- 1:06:34And if you're English, your first group
- 1:06:35will be English. And if you're German,
- 1:06:37your first group will be German. What
- 1:06:39do you end up speaking? German, English
- 1:06:41, Spanish.
- 1:06:43Unless you isolate yourself and go to a
- 1:06:46place where you can only...
- 1:06:48You just mentioned being a social human
- 1:06:50being, and that's not going to happen
- 1:06:51in 99%of cases. Of course. It's
- 1:06:52not going to happen. If that's not
- 1:06:53going to happen, you won't learn a
- 1:06:54language that way. It's not necessary.
- 1:06:56I learn them from the comfort of my own
- 1:06:57home. No, directly. It just doesn't
- 1:07:02make sense. Unless you isolate yourself
- 1:07:04, right? And you have no other choice.
- 1:07:06Fantastic, you can try, but it's going
- 1:07:08to be much harder.
- 1:07:10And what do you think, or is there a
- 1:07:13specific point in the life of a person
- 1:07:15who wants to learn English when it
- 1:07:17would be a good time to go to work or
- 1:07:19to learn or to improve, let's say,
- 1:07:21English?
- 1:07:22Well, that's very important. When you
- 1:07:24have a clear motivation, you obviously
- 1:07:26find the strength. If you're like, well
- 1:07:28, yeah, I have to learn. That's what
- 1:07:31people tell me the most, that they
- 1:07:32really don't have any intention. It's a
- 1:07:34pending subject, forget about it.
- 1:07:38Pending subjects will continue to be
- 1:07:41pending subjects. You really need it,
- 1:07:43you really want to learn it. It has to
- 1:07:45be because you've been hired abroad,
- 1:07:48because you have a very important trip.
- 1:07:51You need motivation, man. If not, it's
- 1:07:53too much trouble.
- 1:07:53Absolutely. And well, we have a
- 1:07:55surprise for you.
- 1:07:57For me. Sara, please come in here.
- 1:08:03Today is Pablo's birthday, so since you
- 1:08:07came to...
- 1:08:08How great, thank you.
- 1:08:09Since you've come here, well, hey, we
- 1:08:11want to do something nice for you, so
- 1:08:12blow.
- 1:08:13But I'll blow out the candle, man. Sure
- 1:08:15.
- 1:08:18Thanks, guys.
- 1:08:20Anyway, we're finishing up. Now we'll
- 1:08:21eat later.
- 1:08:22Come on, if you take it now. And
- 1:08:24another myth that is true, you have to
- 1:08:27tell me that the most important thing
- 1:08:29in any language is to pronounce it
- 1:08:31correctly.
- 1:08:32Mm, well, I would say yes. The most
- 1:08:34important thing, along with reasoning,
- 1:08:36okay? They go hand in hand. Both things
- 1:08:37are extremely important. We've
- 1:08:39seen it and we've talked about it at
- 1:08:40length.
- 1:08:42100%agree.
- 1:08:42Especially because of what you generate
- 1:08:44by pronouncing it correctly, I mean,
- 1:08:45the feeling of saying, damn, this guy
- 1:08:46is a pilot. And above all, I believe
- 1:08:49that when you speak to a native speaker
- 1:08:50, you also convey to the person that
- 1:08:52you are making an effort to speak their
- 1:08:54language. It also makes them more
- 1:08:56receptive to what you want to say. It's
- 1:08:58a very practical example. I'm
- 1:09:01playing, okay? I'm playing
- 1:09:03with a guy, a native speaker, an
- 1:09:05English speaker, an American speaker
- 1:09:07who says," I'm playing. "Okay, he
- 1:09:09hasn't learned to pronounce Spanish, he
- 1:09:12says," I'm playing. "And he's
- 1:09:13pronouncing it perfectly, right? I mean
- 1:09:15, excuse me, he's conjugating it,
- 1:09:16perfectly, but what sounds better in
- 1:09:18pronunciation? I'm playing or I'm
- 1:09:21playing. I'm
- 1:09:23playing now. The native speaker talks
- 1:09:25to you and says," I play now. "You
- 1:09:26sound
- 1:09:26like Yoda. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:09:27of course, I sound like Yoda, but what
- 1:09:28effect has the pronunciation had on you
- 1:09:30?
- 1:09:30Yeah, you say," Well, I'm trying. "
- 1:09:31[ __ ], I'm playing now like that, uh,
- 1:09:34perfect native speaker. I'm playing.
- 1:09:37The second is correct, but look how
- 1:09:39your professional quality, so to speak,
- 1:09:42goes down, okay? Also personal, but
- 1:09:44well, more on a professional level.
- 1:09:45Yes, absolutely
- 1:09:47the pronunciation, man.
- 1:09:49And now we say goodbye
- 1:09:51and we do it as always with a
- 1:09:53recommendation of a book that has
- 1:09:55taught you a lot. The first thing you
- 1:09:57want to recommend to the audience.
- 1:09:59M, I have no doubts about this. And
- 1:10:00being from the entrepreneurship sector,
- 1:10:02I'm sure you know it. Stop being
- 1:10:05yourself.
- 1:10:06The one that changes my life.
- 1:10:08Absolutely. Yes, because it talks about
- 1:10:10this that we were discussing with
- 1:10:12Ángeles in another podcast where
- 1:10:14quantum physics really dominates the
- 1:10:16world. That the electrons there that
- 1:10:18are revolving around the atom, just
- 1:10:20like the planets revolve around the sun
- 1:10:22, but that it is a probability of
- 1:10:23existence. Well, that doesn't mean
- 1:10:26anything can happen. Everything is
- 1:10:28happening at once. You choose what you
- 1:10:29want to happen to you. And when you
- 1:10:32realize that, that you are the master
- 1:10:34of your destiny,
- 1:10:37when I read that, I freaked out, man.
- 1:10:39Totally,
- 1:10:39totally. And I would recommend a second
- 1:10:41one. I write, can you swear?
- 1:10:43Yeah, sure.
- 1:10:44And Rabo, my mentor and my reference,
- 1:10:47par excellence, I write to [ __ ]. The
- 1:10:50title has nothing to do with what's
- 1:10:52inside,
- 1:10:52but it wasn't to make money.
- 1:10:53That was the first one. That
- 1:10:55was the first one that I've also read
- 1:10:56and the second one is better. Very good
- 1:10:58,
- 1:10:58very good in terms of mentality and
- 1:11:00sales.
- 1:11:01Writing persuasively and especially
- 1:11:03what you said, the mentality to write
- 1:11:05persuasively, which is almost more
- 1:11:07important, I mean,
- 1:11:08the mentality to write is already
- 1:11:10persuasive in itself. So, if you write
- 1:11:12with the right mentality you'll be
- 1:11:14totally persuasive.
- 1:11:16And a phrase that you would also like
- 1:11:18to share that inspires you in your day
- 1:11:19to day.
- 1:11:20Okay, we'll do it in English, we'll
- 1:11:22translate it into English. I'm going to
- 1:11:24try to give it to you perfectly so that
- 1:11:25it's a literal translation. Okay,
- 1:11:27Albert Einstein or Einstein, if you
- 1:11:28pronounce it into your hand. Einstein.
- 1:11:30Okay,
- 1:11:30come on.
- 1:11:31I think it was him. If anyone tells you
- 1:11:33otherwise, well,
- 1:11:33let me know in the comments.
- 1:11:34He says," If you can't explain it
- 1:11:38simply or just up to there. How would
- 1:11:41that be in English?
- 1:11:42If you can't explain it
- 1:11:45simply. Perfect. If you can't explain
- 1:11:48it simply,
- 1:11:48teacher. That's it. But you've seen the
- 1:11:50literal translation, right? I mean, it
- 1:11:51seems like a lie, but this is not
- 1:11:52teaching English, it's teaching Spanish
- 1:11:54. If you can't explain something simply
- 1:12:01, you don't understand it well enough.
- 1:12:05Okay. Well enough. You don't understand
- 1:12:08it. You don't understand well enough.
- 1:12:11You don't understand it. You don't
- 1:12:13understand it. The whole sentence. You
- 1:12:16can't explain it. If you can't explain
- 1:12:19it simply, simply. That's it. Let it
- 1:12:21out. In English, the air comes out
- 1:12:23simply. You don't understand it.
- 1:12:26You don't understand it enough. You
- 1:12:28don't understand it. Well enough.
- 1:12:33C1. Yeah, kid.
- 1:12:34Very good. C1 C2. And the better you
- 1:12:36pronounce it, the better your
- 1:12:37pronunciation is. Instead of saying
- 1:12:39IU.
- 1:12:40Yes, yes, yes. You automatically move
- 1:12:42on from here because you're already
- 1:12:43awesome here. that you are above 99.9%
- 1:12:46of people.
- 1:12:48Awesome, man.
- 1:12:49And finally, who do you invite to come
- 1:12:52and have a coffee with a story here on
- 1:12:54the podcast? You know that the
- 1:12:56requirement we set is that they really
- 1:12:58have an inspiring story to tell.
- 1:13:00Inspiring to tell.
- 1:13:01What is this about? Well, look, I would
- 1:13:02invite Irra Bravo, who I met the other
- 1:13:04day, but we don't trust each other
- 1:13:05enough and he says that selling and
- 1:13:07living are the same thing. I invite my
- 1:13:10colleague Alfonso and my colleague
- 1:13:12Cristian here to come and give you a
- 1:13:15good talk about how to sell honestly in
- 1:13:18this life.
- 1:13:19Well, Irra, Alfonso and Cristian,
- 1:13:22triple invitation, huh? Well, we're
- 1:13:24delighted that you come here sometime
- 1:13:26to have a coffee with a story.
- 1:13:27Well, Pablito, man, thank you very much
- 1:13:29for coming on your birthday, also, it
- 1:13:30was
- 1:13:30a pleasure, kid. Yeah, yeah, you took
- 1:13:32away my family's meal, man. I hope he
- 1:13:34pays. We'll close
- 1:13:35later, we'll close later.
- 1:13:36I hope that pays well.
- 1:13:37Thanks a lot, man.
- 1:13:39Thanks, kid.
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