Excerpt: Interview with Yossi Ghinsberg — Transcript

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1. 0:04but you know I what I wanted to say is
2. 0:07that in a way
3. 0:08Mike Mike my story is like complete
4. 0:12because I found the chipiya mana or they
5. 0:15found me and then Kevin I became one of
6. 0:19them you know like I was initiated by
7. 0:21mana in the presence of the entire tribe
8. 0:25which is to come on donations they have
9. 0:28only 850 people people but I'm now
10. 0:33counted as as one of them so it's a
11. 0:35great privilege also just income true
12. 0:39for me and I take it seriously and that
13. 0:44position of being a amana and so I work
14. 0:50for that I work for as an ambassador of
15. 0:54the people and also the director of
16. 0:56Jelena but first is an ambassador of the
17. 0:59entire village which means I want you
18. 1:03know other other operations not just
19. 1:05Iran I mean it seems like right now the
20. 1:09entire biodiversity of Bolivia is at
21. 1:13risk not only BP but about the MIDI did
22. 1:17the chip attend and the tea please and
23. 1:21there's a philosophy of quick
24. 1:24industrialization and the engine behind
25. 1:30it in a way it's similar to Trump you
26. 1:32know like you know taking all the
27. 1:35achievement of Obama in terms of like
28. 1:38the environment or health and just just
29. 1:41throwing America ISTEP you know like if
30. 1:44you refuse big steps back the same is
31. 1:47what Evo Morales is doing but in a way
32. 1:49Eva Morales is the damage is
33. 1:52irreversible
34. 1:55you know erode through the deepness and
35. 1:58with the philosophy of slash-and-burn of
36. 2:02the huge pristine forest and for coca
37. 2:09for Sonia for it sugar cane and that's
38. 2:16very sad because I believe
39. 2:18Forrest make more money than sugar cane
40. 2:21or coca in rank actually that's not its
41. 2:25own drinking worse than that I think is
42. 2:28also like hydroelectric dam because this
43. 2:31is all technology that is very expensive
44. 2:34to implement the damage that it creates
45. 2:36like it will flood about 10 percent of
46. 2:38the modeun you know there's other
47. 2:41studies from other places this is like a
48. 2:43big catastrophe in terms of like nature
49. 2:46the machine is the reaches biodiversity
50. 2:48of the pool and to create an ideological
51. 2:52planter that in 10 or 15 years will
52. 2:55start producing electricity that they
53. 3:00want to sell to Brazil this is so
54. 3:02impractical you know every two years
55. 3:09technology doubles the capacity the
56. 3:11capacity of the seminar you know like in
57. 3:15absorption of you know like solar energy
58. 3:19it's already so advanced but in 15 years
59. 3:22this will be cheap and available and
60. 3:25clean doesn't make sense I think it will
61. 3:30lose money but as you know it doesn't
62. 3:33really matter because there's millions
63. 3:35if not billions of dollars and some big
64. 3:39part of it is coming back into the
65. 3:40system a lot of people will get raged
66. 3:42while Bolivia and is shooting itself but
67. 3:46I think it's not you know we should it's
68. 3:51what I want to say before about my
69. 3:52outlook on the world I think it should
70. 3:54be illegal not only to believe here for
71. 3:56any country to abuse the planet because
72. 3:59the planet is is not political the
73. 4:03planet belongs to all of us and we
74. 4:08belong to the planet in X life and I
75. 4:11think they are very in terms of
76. 4:14management of the planet that's our
77. 4:15biggest problem with very intelligent
78. 4:17species but we very primitive especially
79. 4:21at the same time because all these
80. 4:22divisions create 200 countries with
81. 4:25different interests and each country
82. 4:27sits on something and claim it's sir I
83. 4:30think the planet should be
84. 4:32completely managed in a different way
85. 4:35you know like let's say like the United
86. 4:38States is if you know Virginia is
87. 4:41sitting on on oil it's not just Virginia
88. 4:44in the United States you know so I think
89. 4:46we need to be the United States of
90. 4:48Earth's that country should be like like
91. 4:53dates and presidents and prime ministers
92. 4:56should be like governors there should be
93. 5:00some kind of a central management to you
94. 5:03know the huge atrocities on this planet
95. 5:05you know to the planet and I don't think
96. 5:08we have the right to do that I don't
97. 5:10think a president have the legal right
98. 5:12to go against it the richest
99. 5:14biodiversity of the planet and extinct
100. 5:19that's what's going on it's very very
101. 5:21sad it's very worrisome Libya is the
102. 5:27tendency to become it you know like
103. 5:29dictatorship a constitution is being
104. 5:33changed
105. 5:34Eva Muromets is not going to let go of
106. 5:35the reins on this revolution it can be
107. 5:39bloody and ugly and look at Venezuela
108. 5:43after and so it is very some I'm not I'm
109. 5:50naive but I'm not you know by naivete is
110. 5:53just for inspiration
111. 5:54I know cycles and you know like with you
112. 6:00know I'm optimist in a way because I
113. 6:02believe that somehow when we get you
114. 6:06know at you know
115. 6:08when once once we're on the good tracks
116. 6:09and I think in many way we are our
117. 6:12technology will be able also to reverse
118. 6:15things and to restore and to fix and
119. 6:18that but it will be much better if we
120. 6:22could protect and I know the fruit of
121. 6:24the irony of its it when you protect you
122. 6:27actually gain more if you destroy for
123. 6:31gain it's very stupid and short-sighted
124. 6:33because if you protect you'll gain more
125. 6:35and it's so clear that this lcao system
126. 6:39will produce forever when a name and an
127. 6:44injured
128. 6:46so you have a short the ecosystem will
129. 6:51not produce because it's not answered
130. 6:54those interests our economic interest to
131. 6:57preserve the ecosystem it's an economic
132. 7:00thing it's not a philosophical do good
133. 7:02thing exactly it's a business expense to
134. 7:07destroy resources because they're you
135. 7:11know they the resources are
136. 7:13interconnected you destroy one saying
137. 7:15you know