Everyone Who Uses This Playbook Makes Over $1 Million — Transcript
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- 0:00Over the last 25 years, I've personally
- 0:02sold over $500 million worth of online
- 0:07courses and programs. But the biggest
- 0:09lesson in these 25 years isn't about
- 0:12marketing or funnels. It's this. Almost
- 0:14every expert is selling one thing to
- 0:17people who are ready to buy. And out of
- 0:19any audience, only about 3% are ready
- 0:22today. So you convert 3%. 97% walk away.
- 0:28In the next 20 minutes, I'll give you
- 0:30the grid we use to fix that. We call it
- 0:33the product step ladder. And this is the
- 0:34secret of how I was able to scale my
- 0:36simple meditation company to over a 100
- 0:39million in annual revenue. It looks like
- 0:41this. Six kinds of products and a free
- 0:44tier. If you're a teacher, an educator,
- 0:47an author, and you're looking to create
- 0:49a product for your audience, you do not
- 0:52want to miss this video.
- 0:56I've built product ladders for many of
- 0:58the leading names in the industry. Jim
- 1:00Quick, Marissa Pier, Paul McKenna,
- 1:02Lifebook, WildFit. I've helped create
- 1:05some of the biggest brands in personal
- 1:07growth, one after another, all here on
- 1:09Mine Valley. And all of these worked
- 1:12because of this particular technique.
- 1:15Segment one, why your leads don't become
- 1:17customers. So just a few weeks ago, I
- 1:20was a room at a conference in front of a
- 1:22thousand people, coaches, authors,
- 1:24founders. I asked everyone to stand up.
- 1:26Then I said this, sit down if you sell
- 1:29only one thing. The room collapsed. And
- 1:31almost every one of them had exactly one
- 1:34thing to sell one thing. But that is not
- 1:37how you create a funnel and a conversion
- 1:40machine that works for you. See, there
- 1:42was one man in the room, and I'll call
- 1:43him Richard, and he asked the most
- 1:45honest question of the entire day. He
- 1:47said, "Vision, I have the gift. I've
- 1:49created real value for people. I'm
- 1:51completely stuck on the money." A
- 1:53quarter of the room put their hands up
- 1:55for that exact problem. And what I told
- 1:57him is what I want to tell you. You
- 2:00don't have a marketing problem. You have
- 2:02a shelf problem. And these two things
- 2:04feel identical from the inside, which is
- 2:06why you've been trying to fix the wrong
- 2:08one for several years. Let me show you
- 2:11the math. It's brutal and it's simple.
- 2:14Back in the '90s, a sales trainer named
- 2:15Chad Holmes built something he called
- 2:17the buyers pyramid. He'd been running
- 2:19sales teams for Charlie Mer and he
- 2:21wanted to know out of any given audience
- 2:23for any product, what's the real
- 2:25breakdown of who's ready to buy. About
- 2:283% are actively looking right now.
- 2:31Another 7% are open to it. 30% they
- 2:35aren't even thinking about it. 30% think
- 2:37they're not interested. And 30% know
- 2:40they're not interested. 3%. That's your
- 2:43window at any moment. So, when you sell
- 2:45one thing at one price, you are fishing
- 2:47in 3% of your own pond. And here's the
- 2:50part that should genuinely bother you.
- 2:52The other 97% don't politely wait until
- 2:55they're ready. They go and buy somebody
- 2:57else's stuff. And the second they do,
- 3:00they are that person's customer, not
- 3:02yours, probably permanently. You didn't
- 3:04lose the people because your content
- 3:06wasn't good enough. You lost them
- 3:07because you gave them nothing they could
- 3:09say yes to today. So, I want you to
- 3:11write this down. One offer is not a
- 3:13business. It's a lottery ticket you sell
- 3:16to strangers. And here's where almost
- 3:17everyone goes wrong after they
- 3:19understand that. When an expert finally
- 3:21decides to build a second product, they
- 3:23build another course, then a third
- 3:26course, then they end up with a business
- 3:27that is one shelf deep and four products
- 3:30wide, which converts almost exactly as
- 3:33badly as having one thing. See, there
- 3:36are six shelves, including a free tier.
- 3:39six genuinely different kinds of things
- 3:41you can sell. Let me give you all six
- 3:44and the words we use for them. What I'm
- 3:46about to put on your screen is not a
- 3:47diagram I made for this video. This is
- 3:49an actual working grid my team used to
- 3:51plan our ladder six rows deep down the
- 3:54left and each row is a type of product.
- 3:57Now let's start with the obvious one.
- 3:59Okay, the free tier. The free tier is
- 4:01not a product as you can see here. It's
- 4:03a quiz or a webinar. So people come to
- 4:06take a quiz to identify their particular
- 4:08type. Maybe they're a particular founder
- 4:10type. Maybe they're a particular manager
- 4:11type. Maybe if you're selling um
- 4:14meditation, they're particular stress
- 4:16archetype. Quizzes arouse curiosity so
- 4:19you get leads. Another way to get leads
- 4:21is a free webinar. I coined the term
- 4:23masterclass in 2008 and applied it to
- 4:25webinars. That term took off after I did
- 4:28a million-doll webinar in 2008 and
- 4:31shared my secrets openly. I went on to
- 4:34do 500 million in masterclass sales.
- 4:38Master classes are free because people
- 4:39come to learn from you for 30, 60 or 90
- 4:42minutes. You give good value and then
- 4:44you take them into your first product.
- 4:46So the free tier is basically your lead
- 4:49generation. The next six are what we're
- 4:51going to talk about. This is where you
- 4:53create your product. And these six words
- 4:56are the phraseology we use inside Mind
- 4:59Valley. Having a word for something is
- 5:01how you notice it's missing. So let's
- 5:03look at the six levels. Okay, the six
- 5:05shelves as I call it. Shelf one is the
- 5:08course structured teaching that takes
- 5:11someone from A to B. On our grid, we've
- 5:13got courses at $49.99.
- 5:16At 199, a deliberate spread because
- 5:20different courses do different jobs.
- 5:22Courses on business, on
- 5:23entrepreneurship, charge $99. Courses on
- 5:26personal growth, on relationships, $49.
- 5:29People pay more for a business solution
- 5:31than for a personal solution. On our
- 5:33grid, we have courses on at $49, $99,
- 5:37$149, and $199. Now, here's the problem
- 5:40with courses. It's the only shelf most
- 5:42experts build. And they stop there. It's
- 5:44also the most crowded market on earth.
- 5:47If your entire business is courses, you
- 5:49are standing in the busiest room in the
- 5:50industry and ignoring this next five
- 5:53rooms. Now, shelf two is tools. Our tool
- 5:57is a meditation app. That's why you see
- 5:58it over there. But you could create your
- 6:00own tool. It could be an audio. It could
- 6:02be an AI skill. It could be a software
- 6:05product. The beauty of tools is they can
- 6:08be priced at 99 a year. Tools create
- 6:11subscription value because people
- 6:13continuously reuse them. The tool solves
- 6:16a problem that the course might not be
- 6:18able to solve. A course is something you
- 6:20finish. A tool, you see, is something
- 6:22you keep using. Which is why exactly
- 6:25tools can be subscriptions. And courses,
- 6:27well, they really can. Nobody pays
- 6:29monthly for a course they completed in
- 6:31March. Everybody pays monthly for
- 6:33something they opened this morning. The
- 6:36reason we use a meditation app as a tool
- 6:38is because people come back to those
- 6:40meditations. So we can charge premium
- 6:42for it 99 a year and it renews. Shelf
- 6:45three secrets. Pay attention to this one
- 6:48because I would bet money you already
- 6:50sitting on it. Secrets are recordings of
- 6:52things you've already done. seminar she
- 6:54already thought workshops a a private
- 6:57event you ran two years ago for 40
- 6:59people that was brilliant and that you
- 7:01filmed. We have recordings of events
- 7:04that our authors did. Private events,
- 7:06private seminars. There's something
- 7:08special about getting a recording of a
- 7:11room where people flew and spent
- 7:12thousands of dollars to be in. We call
- 7:15this secrets and we sell this as an
- 7:18upsell. You buy a course. The second
- 7:20upsell might be a tool. The third upsell
- 7:22might be, wait, want to go deeper? I did
- 7:25an event in Singapore in 2022
- 7:29on the topic of public speaking. And if
- 7:32you want to really understand public
- 7:34speaking, watch this event because I go
- 7:36deep in teaching people how to construct
- 7:39their ultimate TED talk. People pay
- 7:42thousands of dollars to be there, but we
- 7:43sell the recordings for $4.99. See how
- 7:46that works? So a secret is giving them
- 7:49access to something that other people
- 7:51already flew in to attend. Now do the
- 7:54math on that shelf. The work is already
- 7:56finished. The teaching happened. The
- 7:58recording exists. The margin is close to
- 8:00to the production course is simply
- 8:02editing a file. Most experts I met have
- 8:043 to 5 years of this on a hard drive and
- 8:07think of it as an archive. But it's not
- 8:09an archive. It's inventory. Now we go to
- 8:11shelf four. Done for you. The student
- 8:14doesn't do the work. you do or
- 8:17increasingly
- 8:18a human plus an AI agent does it and
- 8:22produces something custom for that one
- 8:24person on our grid. It might look like
- 8:26that. You could buy a meditation or you
- 8:28could have a custom meditation in the
- 8:30author's voice generated for you. You
- 8:32describe your goals. A script writer
- 8:34puts that in an AI. We create a custom
- 8:36meditation. We clone the author's voice
- 8:38using a tool like 11 Labs and you get
- 8:41that custom meditation. The price for
- 8:43that $497.
- 8:46Another example for public speaking. You
- 8:48submit your talk. We put it into an AI
- 8:51trained on the public speaking teachers
- 8:53methodology. We refine your talk. We
- 8:55give you detailed notes. The author
- 8:57scans it, gives a stamp of approval,
- 8:59goes back to you. $497.
- 9:02This is called done for you. This is an
- 9:04incredible way to serve customers who
- 9:07want results fast. They don't want to do
- 9:10a course. They don't have time for 5
- 9:11hours, but they want results fast and
- 9:13they're willing to pay. And notice the
- 9:15prices keep climbing. Done for you, you
- 9:17can charge $4.99.
- 9:20Now, here's the principle. The less
- 9:22scalable the shelf, the higher the
- 9:24price. Done for you requires when we do
- 9:27it authentically, the author to review
- 9:28it. Less scalable, which is why the
- 9:31price is higher. Now, a lot of experts
- 9:33make this mistake. They get this exactly
- 9:35backwards. They price their custom work
- 9:37barely above their courses and then
- 9:40wonder why their custom work is eating
- 9:42up so much time. Now shell five, this is
- 9:45where we go into software, something
- 9:48that runs something with a login. It
- 9:51could be a goal setting program. It
- 9:52could be a software to manage OKRs in
- 9:54your business. It could be an AI tool to
- 9:56help you write a book. Now how is
- 9:57software different from tool? Well, this
- 10:00is typically something significantly
- 10:02more advanced. It used to be expensive
- 10:04to build software, but since February
- 10:062026, when Claude launched the new
- 10:08version of Opus, building software has
- 10:10been incredibly cheap. In my case, I
- 10:12found that building software, the price
- 10:14fell by 97%. This is where you can
- 10:17actually build custom software. I know
- 10:19many founders who started doing it
- 10:21themselves or they've hired an agency to
- 10:23do it. They're paying very effective
- 10:25rates because the cost of building has
- 10:26dropped and they sell the software to
- 10:28their clients. So, for example, if
- 10:30you're teaching public speaking, the
- 10:32software you sell here could be a $500
- 10:34software to help clients manage their
- 10:36story bank, which is essential for
- 10:38teaching. Now, most of you aren't going
- 10:40to build software, and I'm not going to
- 10:42pretend you should, but there's a
- 10:43version of this self available to almost
- 10:45everybody, a tracker, a template, a
- 10:48system where you log in. And the point
- 10:51isn't the technology. The point is that
- 10:54this is the only shop where the
- 10:55customer's own accumulated work makes
- 10:59leaving expensive. If you use a software
- 11:02in public speaking to help manage your
- 11:03stories, it's hard to leave that
- 11:05software because your stories are in it.
- 11:07And that's where this shelf can be
- 11:09highly profitable because you get
- 11:11retention revenue. Using a software for
- 11:144 months where you're putting in your
- 11:16goals or putting in your speeches or
- 11:17putting in information on your business
- 11:19harder to leave. That's lock in. And
- 11:22that's where value compounds. Now, this
- 11:25brings us to the final shelf. Belonging
- 11:27is where you can charge between a,000 to
- 11:2910,000 or higher. This is the shelf that
- 11:32has a rule attached that's different
- 11:34from everything else on the group. It's
- 11:36the most counterintuitive thing on here,
- 11:38and we're going to come back to it in
- 11:40about 4 minutes with a name for it. The
- 11:43rule is belonging is never an upsell. It
- 11:46is always included. Never sold on its
- 11:49own. never bolted on a checkout or
- 11:51upgrade it appears twice and both times
- 11:53it's part of something bigger. Here's
- 11:55why. The moment you sell community as an
- 11:58extra, you have told your customer that
- 12:00the main thing they bought was lonely.
- 12:02You have priced the presence of other
- 12:04human beings as a premium feature and
- 12:06something in them registered that even
- 12:08if they pay six shelves, courses, tools,
- 12:11secrets, done for you software,
- 12:13belonging. So how do you sell belonging?
- 12:15You invite people to join a mastermind
- 12:18or to join a retreat or to join an event
- 12:21where they get to also meet other
- 12:23people. The great secret is this. In
- 12:26study after study, founders are lonely.
- 12:29CEOs are lonely. The higher and
- 12:32wealthier you get in life, it often
- 12:34seems the more lonely it gets. People
- 12:36care about belonging. And in today's
- 12:38world with AI everywhere, people want
- 12:41people. We're seeing in our company
- 12:43event sales are up 170%. Because of
- 12:47belonging. So belonging is the highest
- 12:49tier of your ladder. So if you're
- 12:51teaching public speaking and you want to
- 12:53create a,000 to $10,000 offering, invite
- 12:56people to a seminar. Invite people to a
- 12:59retreat. Create belonging. Now six
- 13:02products is not a ladder. Six products
- 13:04is a pile. What makes it a ladder is the
- 13:07arrangement. And that has its own
- 13:09vocabulary. the anchor, the bump, the
- 13:12step up, and the handrail. Every ladder
- 13:15starts with one product we call the
- 13:16anchor. The anchor is your front door.
- 13:18On our grid, it's a program at 49 to 999
- 13:21bucks, and everything else is positioned
- 13:23relative to it, not sold alongside it,
- 13:25positioned relative to it. If somebody
- 13:28on my team asks, "What's the anchor?"
- 13:30They're asking, "Which product is the
- 13:32whole pot organized around the
- 13:35entryway?" Most experts have a pile of
- 13:37products and no anchor. Pick one.
- 13:39Everything below gets easier. There are
- 13:41four moves around it. Move one, the
- 13:43bump. Something you add at the checkout
- 13:46page while the card is already out. So,
- 13:48a bump looks like this. Let's say you
- 13:50buy a public speaking course. A bump
- 13:52might be a singular hypnotherapy to
- 13:55improve your confidence before a speech.
- 13:57A bump might be a 1-hour video with some
- 14:00additional content such as how to add
- 14:03humor to your speech. Now, these bumps
- 14:05are called order bumps for a reason. You
- 14:08charge very low for them, but they help
- 14:09pay for your cost of advertising. And
- 14:11the customer simply checks them up. $19
- 14:14and for 29, super cheap. You'll see many
- 14:18sellers using this. So, the three rules
- 14:20are this. It must be cheap relative to
- 14:22the anchor. It must be a genuine
- 14:25no-brainer, and it should come from the
- 14:27tools shelf, never a course. An order
- 14:30bump is a tool. The last one is a
- 14:33mistake almost everybody makes. If you
- 14:34offer somebody a second course at
- 14:36checkout, you've just created
- 14:37competition for their attention and
- 14:39people are busy enough. Now they have
- 14:41two things to finish and it's
- 14:43frustrating and they'll probably finish
- 14:44neither. But a tool doesn't compete with
- 14:46a course. It makes the course work
- 14:48better. You buy a public speaking
- 14:50course, a hypnotherapy audio is a tool.
- 14:52It helps give you the confidence to give
- 14:55that first speech. A addition of humor
- 14:58is a tool. It gives you something as a
- 15:01bonus to that first speech. And you add
- 15:03this with a simple check mark. Now move
- 15:07two is called a step up after they've
- 15:09bought, not during. And this is where
- 15:11courses and secrets earn their keep
- 15:13because somebody who just bought your
- 15:15$99 program is the warmest they will
- 15:17ever be. And the obvious thing is either
- 15:19a deeper course or recording of a
- 15:22seminar. You've already thought. Notice
- 15:24what just happened. Your secret shelf,
- 15:27the one that cost you almost nothing
- 15:29because the work is already done, is
- 15:30your highest margin stepper. That's not
- 15:33luck. That's the grid doing its job. So,
- 15:35what happens over here is after you buy
- 15:37and you do a order bump, you might
- 15:39invite them to buy a recording of one of
- 15:41your prior seminars. You're allowing
- 15:43them to step into your world to get a
- 15:46recording of something that people flew
- 15:47all the way around the world to attend.
- 15:49If your initial product is 99 here, you
- 15:51can charge 99 to $2.99. Now move three
- 15:55is the stack. Stack is several products
- 15:57sold together as one purchase price. So
- 15:59the stack is obviously better value than
- 16:01the parts. So the rule we apply comes
- 16:04straight off the grid. When you stack,
- 16:06you add belonging because somebody who
- 16:08buys four programs at once isn't a
- 16:09casual buyer. They're committed. And a
- 16:12committed buyer with no community is a
- 16:13refund waiting to happen. So the stack
- 16:16includes the room and I'm in the room.
- 16:18Now this is what it looks like. You buy
- 16:20an initial course for 99 on public
- 16:22speaking. In our case, the upsam when we
- 16:25use the stack is a collection of related
- 16:27courses. Body language, charisma,
- 16:31scripting, getting booked to speak. And
- 16:34when you buy that stack, we also put you
- 16:37in a community of fellow speakers. And
- 16:41that community, we design it so the
- 16:43speakers are supporting each other. And
- 16:46we sell that stack for significantly
- 16:48higher. If a single course is 99, the
- 16:50stack may contain 10 courses, but not at
- 16:5399 * 10. It might be 400 bucks. The
- 16:57customer has established their value. A
- 16:59single course is 99. They paid for that.
- 17:02The stack has an upsell. They can see
- 17:04that they're getting a 60% discount. And
- 17:06to make it even more attractive, we add
- 17:09community. Now, they go from a single
- 17:12course to belonging. But there's a
- 17:14fourth idea, and that's the premium
- 17:16experience. The premium experience is
- 17:18where you can invite people to come and
- 17:20join you at an exclusive event or at a
- 17:23seminar. Now the premium experience you
- 17:26don't sell it immediately. You invite
- 17:29people to do that after 2 weeks of using
- 17:31your product. So now they have bought
- 17:34the initial product. They've added an
- 17:36order bump. They may have bought a first
- 17:38upsell and a second upsell. Stop there.
- 17:40But ensure that you really support them
- 17:43in using that product. You might hire a
- 17:46concierge for 30 minutes. That that's
- 17:47going to cost you 15 to 20 bucks to call
- 17:50them up and guide them through it. You
- 17:51might invite them to join an online
- 17:53community. You might have a personalized
- 17:55letter sent to them. After 2 weeks, if
- 17:58you get them to use your product, you
- 18:01earn the right to sell them premium.
- 18:03Premium is time with you. Premium is
- 18:06your retreat. Premium is your event. We
- 18:08do premium by getting 1,500 people to
- 18:11come and move to a city together for 2
- 18:13weeks for a mega event called Mind
- 18:15Value. For many people who are experts,
- 18:18to me, premium is the most fun part of
- 18:20their entire ladder. Okay, now let's go
- 18:24on to the final bit. Mind the drop. Look
- 18:26at the actual prices on this grid and
- 18:28you can see how the prices get higher
- 18:31and higher. You don't go from 200 to
- 18:335,000. you go from 200 to 500 to a,000
- 18:37to 5,000. Okay? Otherwise, the ladders
- 18:40rungs are too far apart and it's hard to
- 18:43climb. Next, recurring revenue. Notice
- 18:45where recurring revenue sits on this
- 18:47grid. It sits at tools. It sits at
- 18:50software and it can also sit at
- 18:52belonging. Why belonging? You could
- 18:54create events where you don't just come
- 18:56for a singular event. You then pay a
- 18:58small fee every year to be connected to
- 19:00that event's community. Recurring
- 19:02revenue is wonderful. You're building a
- 19:05business based on keeping customers
- 19:07happy so they keep coming back. Because
- 19:09remember this, it's always easier to
- 19:12retain an existing customer than get a
- 19:15new one. So this is a rough idea of how
- 19:18a product ladder works. I also want you
- 19:21to know that recently I created a
- 19:24mastermind for experts and authors. We
- 19:27just opened it up and the mastermind is
- 19:3010,000 a year. You have to apply to get
- 19:33it. But what we do in the mastermind is
- 19:35we bring together people who already
- 19:37have an expert or an authorship business
- 19:40into weekly and monthly connections on a
- 19:43beautiful platform where we all share
- 19:45our learnings with each other. People
- 19:47share their landing pages. People share
- 19:49their webinars. I come in and I share
- 19:51everything I'm doing at Mind Valley. to
- 19:53get my exact webinar script that sold
- 19:55half a billion in webinars. That alone
- 19:58pays off for the entire mastermind. But
- 20:00it's by application. And if you're
- 20:02interested in that, the link and all the
- 20:04information is below this video. So,
- 20:06leave a comment. Let me know what you
- 20:08want to learn next. I'm going to create
- 20:09more content like this. And don't forget
- 20:11to click subscribe because I'll be
- 20:13releasing more content for experts and
- 20:15authors on this channel every month. And
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