Every Argument For God RANKED and EXPLAINED — Transcript
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- 0:00There are many different arguments for
- 0:02the existence of a God, and some of
- 0:04these arguments are really, really good.
- 0:07However, other arguments are horrible,
- 0:09and they're going to make you look like
- 0:10an idiot. So, today, we are going to go
- 0:12over all of the different arguments for
- 0:14God. We're going to explain them so that
- 0:16you guys can use them in evangelization,
- 0:19and then we are going to rank them based
- 0:21off of effectiveness. So, today, we have
- 0:24five different tiers. First of all,
- 0:26where do I sign? These are arguments
- 0:28that are the best of the best. They're
- 0:30going to get people excited about
- 0:32theism, and maybe even lead to a full
- 0:34conversion to your religion. After that,
- 0:37we have that convinced me. These are
- 0:39still great arguments. They're very
- 0:40good, and they will typically convince
- 0:42people of God's existence. However,
- 0:44they're just not the absolute best.
- 0:46Next, we have let me think on that.
- 0:48These are arguments that don't typically
- 0:50lead to conversion, but they definitely
- 0:52provoke thought into the atheistic mind.
- 0:55They're going to give them something to
- 0:56think about. Then, we have I'm not
- 0:59convinced. These are arguments that are
- 1:01not so good. They're not really going to
- 1:02convince anyone, and the people that
- 1:04hear these might walk away not really
- 1:06thinking about anything new. And then,
- 1:08finally, we have you are an idiot. These
- 1:11are arguments that you should not use,
- 1:13and you're going to look stupid if you
- 1:14do. So, now that we have that out of the
- 1:16way, let's go over the different
- 1:18arguments that we're actually going to
- 1:19be ranking. We have moral arguments,
- 1:22ontological arguments, Pascal's Wager,
- 1:24the Kalam Cosmological Argument,
- 1:27fine-tuning, the contingency arguments,
- 1:29intelligent design, resurrection
- 1:31arguments, miracle accounts, personal
- 1:33experience, and the nature of minds
- 1:36arguments. So,
- 1:38those are all the different arguments
- 1:39that we have for the existence of God.
- 1:42Let's start ranking. The first one is
- 1:45moral arguments. These are arguments,
- 1:47basically, from objective morality, and
- 1:50the claim is that atheists cannot have
- 1:53objective morality without adhering to
- 1:56the existence of a God. So, here's how
- 1:58it goes. You ask an atheist and you say,
- 2:00"Hey, how do you know that punching
- 2:02someone in the face is bad?" And then
- 2:04they'll say, "Well, because you're
- 2:05hurting someone." And then you say,
- 2:06"Okay, how do you know that hurting
- 2:08someone is bad?" And then they'll say,
- 2:10"Well, because it makes them feel bad."
- 2:12And you say, "Okay, but why is making
- 2:13someone feel bad a bad thing?"
- 2:16Eventually, it just leads to them
- 2:17saying, "Things are bad because I feel
- 2:19like they're bad." Or because I think
- 2:21that they're bad. And that is completely
- 2:24subjective. Okay, there's no objectivity
- 2:26to that. And so, that is where you can
- 2:28say, "The only way to have objective
- 2:30morality, where we know that certain
- 2:32things are wrong or certain things are
- 2:33right, is if you believe in a God." And
- 2:37that is where you kind of get this
- 2:39ascent to religiosity or this idea that
- 2:42a God does exist. Now, moral arguments
- 2:45for me, they're going in the let me
- 2:47think on that category because these
- 2:49arguments don't convince anyone that God
- 2:51exists. It kind of just shows them that
- 2:53their moral framework isn't the best and
- 2:56that it actually isn't objective. And a
- 2:58lot of atheists will just say, "Yeah,
- 2:59you know what? Morality isn't objective.
- 3:02It is subjective. It changes over time."
- 3:04And so, I don't think that this is the
- 3:05best argument. Um I haven't actually
- 3:08seen it convince too many people, but
- 3:10it's definitely good to get them
- 3:11thinking about theism.
- 3:13Next up, we have the ontological
- 3:15arguments. And the ontological arguments
- 3:17are pretty cool, but only if you already
- 3:20believe in a God. So, let me explain.
- 3:22The ontological arguments are arguments
- 3:24based off of God's existence, based off
- 3:26of the way that he is, his essence, if
- 3:29you will. So, one of the most popular
- 3:31ones is, "We define God as the greatest
- 3:34being." That's how we understand what a
- 3:36God is. Now, if God is the greatest
- 3:39being, that means that he exists because
- 3:42existing is greater than not existing.
- 3:45Therefore, God exists. And while that's
- 3:47a super cool thought experiment, and
- 3:49while, you know, that argument is
- 3:51technically logically sound, it's not
- 3:53going to convince anyone that God
- 3:55actually exists. You're not Nobody's
- 3:57going to be like, "Oh, there you go. Now
- 3:59I'll become a Christian." That's not
- 4:01really going to work. Another famous
- 4:02ontological argument is from actuality
- 4:05and potency. So, a great example of this
- 4:06is this guitar pick, okay? So, this
- 4:08guitar pick is a mix of actuality and
- 4:11potency. The actuality is the way that a
- 4:13thing is. So, it is a triangle, it has
- 4:16checkers, um it exists. That is the
- 4:19actuality of this guitar pick. Now, the
- 4:21potency of this guitar pick are the
- 4:23possibilities in which it is another
- 4:26way. So, for example, if I cut this
- 4:28guitar pick in half, that is a potential
- 4:30in it. It could be cut in half, but it's
- 4:32not currently. Or it could be bigger, it
- 4:34could be smaller, it could be a
- 4:35different color, and so on and so on.
- 4:38Everything in the universe is a mix of
- 4:40actuality and potency. Um
- 4:43so,
- 4:44when we take that scale, right?
- 4:45Everything is a mix of the way that it
- 4:47is and the way that it could be, we can
- 4:49look towards the end of that spectrum
- 4:50and say, "Okay, well, something exists
- 4:52where there's no potency, right? It's 0%
- 4:55potency and 100% actuality." And the
- 4:58thing that is 100% actuality is God. And
- 5:03we could say, right? Since we define God
- 5:05as being actus purus according to
- 5:07Thomistic theology, that therefore God
- 5:10has no potency, he's 100% actuality,
- 5:13he's 100%
- 5:15existent. That is the ontological
- 5:17argument. There There's two very common
- 5:19ones which we just went through. I'm
- 5:21putting these in I'm not convinced just
- 5:23because it's very rare that you actually
- 5:26convince someone with these. I think
- 5:27they're super fun, they're awesome to
- 5:28walk through, but nobody's really going
- 5:30to say, "Wow, I get it now. God does
- 5:32exist." Cuz they're super wordy and
- 5:34there's not not going to convince
- 5:35anyone.
- 5:37After that, we have Pascal's Wager. This
- 5:40is going directly in the you are an
- 5:43idiot because if you use this as an
- 5:45argument for the existence of God, you
- 5:47don't even understand Pascal's Wager.
- 5:50Pascal's Wager is basically this: If you
- 5:52are an atheist and you are correct, then
- 5:55you gain nothing because there's no life
- 5:57after death. But, if you're an atheist
- 5:59and you're wrong, then you go to hell.
- 6:02So, an atheist only has things to lose,
- 6:04whereas someone who believes in God,
- 6:07right? If they are correct, they go to
- 6:09heaven.
- 6:10They gain everything, but if they're
- 6:12wrong, nothing happens. So, they have
- 6:14everything to gain and the atheists have
- 6:16everything to lose. However, that's not
- 6:19an argument for God. That is just an
- 6:21argument based off of probability. And
- 6:24to use this to say, "Therefore, God
- 6:26exists." It just means you don't
- 6:28actually understand the argument. So,
- 6:29that's going straight into the you are
- 6:30an idiot. I think Pascal's Wager is
- 6:32awesome, super fun to think about, but
- 6:34it doesn't prove that God exists.
- 6:36After that, we have the Kalam
- 6:38Cosmological Argument, sometimes just
- 6:40called the Kalam Argument. Okay.
- 6:43The Kalam Argument goes like this:
- 6:45Whatever begins to exist has a cause,
- 6:47and the universe began to exist,
- 6:49therefore, the universe has a cause.
- 6:51That's a very simplified version. Um and
- 6:54I think that honestly, it's a pretty
- 6:56good argument. I don't think it's going
- 6:57to necessarily convince someone just
- 6:59like that, but I think it is going to
- 7:01cause them to think, okay? Because when
- 7:03you say, "Yes, we we agree that the
- 7:04universe had a beginning." Okay, where
- 7:07did that come from? What is the cause?
- 7:08And there's not really a good answer to
- 7:10that. However, it leads to something
- 7:11known as the God of the gaps, where
- 7:13you're basically just filling in this
- 7:15spot, "Okay, well, what caused the
- 7:17universe?" Um and you're saying, "Well,
- 7:19therefore, it's God." There there's a
- 7:20little bit of a disconnect there, and I
- 7:22don't think that the Kalam Cosmological
- 7:24Argument is the strongest that we have.
- 7:27Next up, we have the Fine-Tuning
- 7:29Argument. The Fine-Tuning Argument, I'm
- 7:32putting it in, let me think on that
- 7:33because it is I think it convinces
- 7:35people sometimes. It makes them think.
- 7:38However, it doesn't actually prove that
- 7:40God exists in any way. So,
- 7:43the fine-tuning argument is basically
- 7:45things are so perfected and so
- 7:47fine-tuned to order that they must come
- 7:50from some sort of intelligent being. So,
- 7:52for example, if if the gravitational
- 7:54constant was off by just a little bit,
- 7:57then the universe would fall apart,
- 7:58right? Stars wouldn't be able to form,
- 8:00planets wouldn't be able to hold
- 8:01together, it wouldn't work.
- 8:03Um or you could say something like the
- 8:06the sun is the perfect distance away
- 8:08from the Earth and therefore there's
- 8:10some intelligent design behind that. I I
- 8:13don't I don't think that's a great
- 8:14argument. It definitely causes people to
- 8:16think, that's why I'm not putting it in
- 8:17I'm not convinced. For me, I think it
- 8:19belongs in I'm not convinced, but
- 8:21fine-tuning is simply not the best
- 8:23argument, okay? And a really good
- 8:25refutation to the fine-tuning argument,
- 8:27which makes it so dumb in my opinion, is
- 8:31this analogy, right? If there's a hole
- 8:33in the ground, right? It's a certain
- 8:35shape, and then it starts to raining,
- 8:37and the rain falls into this puddle,
- 8:40the puddle could then look around and
- 8:42say, "Wow, look at this this hole in the
- 8:44ground. It's perfectly shaped for me.
- 8:47That means there must be some sort of,
- 8:49you know, fine-tuning, some intelligent
- 8:51being that created this." When in
- 8:53reality, it just existed that way
- 8:55because of its surroundings. The the
- 8:57water takes the shape of whatever it
- 8:59goes into. And so, the the refutation of
- 9:02the fine-tuning argument is basically
- 9:04life is a similar way. Just because we
- 9:06can't understand life another way now
- 9:08doesn't mean that it wouldn't just take
- 9:10the shape of something else if the uh
- 9:13fine-tuning was some sort of other way.
- 9:15So, I don't really like the fine-tuning
- 9:17argument. However, I've seen it convince
- 9:19so many people that I'm going to leave
- 9:21it here in the C-tier in the let me
- 9:23think on that, okay?
- 9:25I don't like it, but I've seen it
- 9:26convince a lot of people.
- 9:28Next, we have the contingency arguments.
- 9:31This is where we start to get to the
- 9:32good arguments, okay? I really think
- 9:34that uh the contingency argument is is
- 9:36irrefutable. I think it's it's one of
- 9:38the greatest arguments that we have. I'm
- 9:39thinking about putting it in Where Do I
- 9:41Sign, but right now it's going in the
- 9:43That Convinced Me. Okay. So,
- 9:46the Yeah, I'm putting it up there. Hold
- 9:47on. Sorry for my my indecision there.
- 9:49It's going in there. Contingency, the
- 9:51argument from contingency is basically,
- 9:52okay, God exists.
- 9:55That's the whole I don't know why I said
- 9:56that. This is a whole argument. No. Um
- 9:58okay, so everything is contingent upon
- 10:00something else. Everything with potency,
- 10:02as we described earlier.
- 10:03Um so, for example, this this guitar
- 10:05pick is dependent upon the guitar pick
- 10:08manufacturer, right? And the guitar pick
- 10:10manufacturer is contingent or only
- 10:12exists upon or is dependent upon the
- 10:15creator. It only exists because of the
- 10:17the you know, the CEO. The CEO only
- 10:19exists because his parents, uh you know,
- 10:22they they had intercourse and then gave
- 10:24birth, right? Then those parents only
- 10:26exist because of their parents and and
- 10:28so on and so on and so on. Everything is
- 10:30contingent upon something else.
- 10:33And there's two options. Either there is
- 10:35a first cause, something that isn't
- 10:37contingent upon anything else, or this
- 10:40goes back in time infinitely, where
- 10:43everything is dependent upon something
- 10:44that's dependent upon something all the
- 10:46way back in time. And the problem with
- 10:47that second idea
- 10:49is imagine a chandelier, right? Where
- 10:52there's chains connecting
- 10:55going up. So, the first chain is what we
- 10:56have right now, and then above that
- 10:58there's another chain. And and and
- 10:59that's the contingency.
- 11:01If that chain went up forever, it would
- 11:03never hold up. It would just fall.
- 11:06But if there's a first cause, right?
- 11:08Something that causes that chain to
- 11:09exist in the first place, like a
- 11:10ceiling, then the whole chain can hold
- 11:12up. So, it can't go on to infinity.
- 11:14So, there must be some sort of first
- 11:16cause that isn't dependent upon
- 11:18something else. And and if you have
- 11:19potency, right? This idea that there's
- 11:22another way that you could possibly be,
- 11:24then you are contingent. So, we know
- 11:26that the thing that isn't contingent has
- 11:28no potency. It is pure actuality, which
- 11:31entails, you know, um perfection, it
- 11:33entails all-knowingness,
- 11:35all power. It it it basically you end up
- 11:38describing a god. And so, the first
- 11:40cause is that god. I think the
- 11:42contingency argument is is pretty
- 11:43unstoppable. Trent Horn has some good
- 11:45examples of this. Or you could read the
- 11:47five ways by St. Thomas Aquinas. I
- 11:49believe it's in in pars prima question
- 11:51four, would be my guess of Summa
- 11:53Theologiae.
- 11:54But there's there's multiple different
- 11:56ways that you can go about the
- 11:57contingency argument.
- 11:59So, yeah.
- 12:01Next up, we have intelligent design.
- 12:02Intelligent design is a
- 12:05an interesting argument. It's very
- 12:07similar to the fine-tuning argument, but
- 12:08I think it's a little bit worse. I'm
- 12:10thinking about putting it in the you are
- 12:11an idiot, but I know that a lot of
- 12:13people like this one, so I'm going to
- 12:14put it in the I'm not convinced.
- 12:16Intelligent design is basically this
- 12:17idea, okay, look how
- 12:19like well-put-together humans are. That
- 12:21couldn't possibly happen by accident.
- 12:23Look how, you know, intricate the
- 12:25eyeball is. That couldn't happen through
- 12:27evolution, right? Surely a god must have
- 12:29made that. And I think that's a dumb
- 12:31argument. I think it's stupid.
- 12:32>> [snorts]
- 12:32>> Because evolution pretty clearly can
- 12:35explain that, right? I'm not saying that
- 12:37that means evolution is true or that
- 12:39evolution is, you know, this replace
- 12:41gods, but evolution can explain it.
- 12:43Right? So, imagine
- 12:45you have, you know, a being without
- 12:47eyeballs, and then it develops through
- 12:50some form of mutation. Eventually, it
- 12:52has something that is able to see. Now,
- 12:54that being will
- 12:56survive better, it will have kids with a
- 12:58similar mutation, and then they're going
- 13:00to overpopulate cuz they survive more,
- 13:02they're going to grow that species, and
- 13:04eventually you have a whole species with
- 13:06eyeballs. And so, that's where, you
- 13:07know, that intricacy gets. And the
- 13:09better their vision is, the more likely
- 13:11that they are to
- 13:13reproduce and survive, and therefore you
- 13:15get the the eyeball from that. You can
- 13:17if you if you want something else that
- 13:19would help explain it a little better,
- 13:21you could imagine
- 13:22somebody who develops like something
- 13:24that's not very
- 13:26intricate, like a spike on their head,
- 13:28right? Like you get a spike on your
- 13:29head. That's a mutation that you have
- 13:31when you're born. And let's say you live
- 13:32in like this primal world where
- 13:34everybody's fighting each other. If you
- 13:36have a spike on your head, you can like
- 13:37hit people with it. You can kill them.
- 13:38You're you're survive better. You're
- 13:40going to survive more, um which is going
- 13:41to allow you to reproduce more, and then
- 13:43there's going to be more kids with that
- 13:45mutation, right? With a spike on their
- 13:47heads. And those kids are going to
- 13:48survive better than the other kids.
- 13:49They're going to be able to kill them,
- 13:51and then that spike is just going to get
- 13:52passed on until eventually everybody has
- 13:54a spike because it's needed
- 13:56in order to survive against the people
- 13:58with spikes. Um and so that that's
- 14:01that's the way that evolution can
- 14:02happen. And so the fine-tuning argument
- 14:04I just don't find it very convincing.
- 14:06I've never seen it or not sorry, not
- 14:07fine-tuning, the intelligent design one.
- 14:08I don't I I think that you can describe
- 14:10that through uh evolution. However, that
- 14:13doesn't mean that evolution is the cause
- 14:14of all of the intricacies. Um next up we
- 14:17have a resurrection arguments, and this
- 14:18is specifically one for Christianity,
- 14:20the historicity of the resurrection of
- 14:22Jesus Christ.
- 14:24Now look, I love the resurrection. I
- 14:26think there is good evidence for it.
- 14:28But again, it's going in the
- 14:30Okay, you know what? No, we're going in
- 14:31the let me think on that cuz there is
- 14:32good evidence. There's there there's
- 14:34good evidence for the resurrection,
- 14:35right? You have writings of the
- 14:37existence of Christ from Babylonian
- 14:38Talmud, from Josephus, from Tacitus,
- 14:41from the four gospel accounts, from
- 14:42Paul, and from the 500 eyewitnesses that
- 14:45Paul claims and says that he's using as
- 14:47evidence. It says that you can go check
- 14:48with them. Um you have the early church
- 14:50fathers like Ignatius of Antioch writing
- 14:52about Christ, uh Clement of Alexandria
- 14:54um you you have a lot of accounts of the
- 14:56of the resurrection early on. Um
- 15:00And so when we have things like that,
- 15:01it's pretty easy to say, "Yeah, you know
- 15:03what? There is some good evidence for
- 15:05it." But to go from the resurrection
- 15:07to automatically the classical idea of
- 15:10God,
- 15:11I don't think it's the best because for
- 15:12example, the Mormons
- 15:14Mormons believe in the resurrection, but
- 15:17they don't believe in the classical idea
- 15:19of God. Now I'm I'm saying that they're
- 15:20atheists, but they don't believe in in
- 15:22the same type of God that we're talking
- 15:24about. And so, the resurrection
- 15:25argument, it's good for making people
- 15:27think about theism, but it's not always
- 15:29going to lead them to classical theism.
- 15:32Next up, we have miracle accounts.
- 15:35Now, I'm going in that convinced me
- 15:38because I'm a Catholic, and Catholics
- 15:40have really, really good miracles. If
- 15:42you've never heard of some of these, um
- 15:44first of all, we have what's known as
- 15:46Eucharistic miracles. And a little bit
- 15:48of Catholic theology, I know there's
- 15:49probably a lot of atheists watching this
- 15:51or Protestants watching this, but in
- 15:52Catholic theology, we have uh the
- 15:55Eucharist or communion as it's called
- 15:57sometimes, the bread and the wine, last
- 15:58supper.
- 16:00And we believe that that's the real body
- 16:01and blood of Christ. Like in the we
- 16:03believe it is Jesus's body and Jesus's
- 16:06blood body blood soul and divinity. We
- 16:07believe that that is in there when it's
- 16:09uh transubstantiated.
- 16:12And something interesting will happen
- 16:14where when the host is consecrated on
- 16:17not just its inward substance, but on
- 16:20the outward appearance, it turns into
- 16:23flesh and blood. Like it it starts
- 16:25bleeding. The bread starts bleeding.
- 16:28The Eucharistic host starts bleeding.
- 16:30You can look into this. It's been
- 16:32confirmed over and over again by uh
- 16:34scientific study. It's a really, really
- 16:35cool thing. So, that's one miracle
- 16:38account I show to atheists often and it
- 16:39really does a lot for them. There's also
- 16:41Marian apparitions where Mary, the
- 16:43mother of God, this is another Catholic
- 16:45thing, will appear to people.
- 16:48Um a great example of this is is the
- 16:50apparition in Zeitoun, Egypt in 1968, I
- 16:53believe. Mary, she appeared, she's like
- 16:55flying in the sky, she's got doves
- 16:57flying around her head, um and she's
- 16:59kind of just standing there and there's
- 17:01like millions of eyewitnesses to this
- 17:02cuz it happens multiple times. The
- 17:04president of Egypt even like flies down,
- 17:07he sees it and he confirms that he's
- 17:09like, "Yeah, that's Mary, the mother of
- 17:10God." Um and there's so many conversions
- 17:14because of this. People like, "Yeah, no,
- 17:15Mary is the mother of God, therefore
- 17:16Jesus, therefore God exists. So, yeah,
- 17:18there's great miracle accounts that you
- 17:20can use as arguments for God, especially
- 17:23if you're Catholic, cuz we have some
- 17:24unbelievable ones. Like literally
- 17:25millions of eyewitnesses. Another thing
- 17:27with the miracle of Fatima, you know,
- 17:29Mary appearing in Fatima, there's some
- 17:31really, really good ones.
- 17:33Um next up we have personal experience.
- 17:36Now remember,
- 17:37we are ranking things based off of how
- 17:40well they can convince atheists.
- 17:44Atheists do not have your personal
- 17:46experience. So, if you try and say
- 17:47actually okay, hold on. Actually,
- 17:49let me put this in the I'm not
- 17:50convinced, cuz I don't think you're an
- 17:51idiot for bringing up personal
- 17:52experience.
- 17:54I have had some amazing personal
- 17:55experiences. I've had dreams in Latin,
- 17:57my conversion actually came out of that.
- 17:59I've had
- 18:00literal visions, talking, having
- 18:02conversations with Mary, conversations
- 18:04with Christ.
- 18:05I've had I've been blessed with awesome,
- 18:07awesome visions, dreams, all that stuff.
- 18:11I simply cannot bring that up to other
- 18:13atheists like to the to atheists though,
- 18:15right? It's not going to convince them.
- 18:16They just will say, yeah, I don't really
- 18:17believe you or you're maybe crazy. They
- 18:19can really easily dismiss that.
- 18:21Now, for yourself, personal experience
- 18:23is the best argument. If we're talking
- 18:25about, you know, convincing yourself,
- 18:26it's going up here.
- 18:28But if we're talking about convincing
- 18:29others, personal experience is just not
- 18:31going to cut it.
- 18:32I think personal experience is awesome,
- 18:33it's beautiful, and your testimony can
- 18:35really help people convert.
- 18:38However, I don't think that it's really
- 18:39going to convince anyone, unless they
- 18:41have some sort of personal experience
- 18:42too or see one of these other arguments.
- 18:45And finally, we have the nature of the
- 18:47mind argument. Nature of the mind
- 18:50is basically what the intellect is
- 18:52ordered to.
- 18:54We are ordered towards goodness. We are
- 18:56ordered towards knowledge, towards
- 18:58happiness. We we have a conscience,
- 19:01right? We literally we experience. And
- 19:03this was one that kind of blew my mind
- 19:05when I first heard it. The idea that you
- 19:07are conscious cannot be explained simply
- 19:11materially. Okay? So, for example,
- 19:14uh no matter how many atoms you put
- 19:16together,
- 19:17you could even like build a brain, and
- 19:19that brain could operate like a
- 19:21computer, but there will never be a
- 19:24first-hand experience. There's never
- 19:25going to be see someone seeing through
- 19:27the eyes. There's never going to be
- 19:28something experiencing that.
- 19:31And that has to come from some sort of
- 19:33transcendental thing. It cannot come
- 19:35from material alone because you can't
- 19:37make consciousness.
- 19:39It only comes from some sort of
- 19:40transcendental thing. I really like this
- 19:43argument.
- 19:44I'm going to put it in the let me think
- 19:46on that though. You know, this one's
- 19:47it's personal to me, but I don't think
- 19:48it's going to convince anyone really.
- 19:52It'll it'll definitely provoke them to
- 19:53think more about theism,
- 19:55but it's not going to be like, "Okay, I
- 19:57have consciousness, therefore God
- 19:58exists." That's not really going to
- 19:59happen. Um and those were all the
- 20:01arguments we have, um but I'm going to
- 20:03run one more argument past you guys.
- 20:05This is my go-to, and it it's not a
- 20:07formal argument, but this is this is
- 20:08what I I tend to go to when I want to
- 20:11argue for the existence of God. It's one
- 20:14that I made up, um and and it go it goes
- 20:17something like this. I call it the
- 20:18argument from parts and potency, okay?
- 20:21So,
- 20:22premise one,
- 20:24anything with parts has potency. So,
- 20:26anything that is a composite of
- 20:27different parts uh has some other way
- 20:30that it could be. So, for example, my
- 20:31phone,
- 20:32we'll say that this is a part, my camera
- 20:34is a part, and then the base of the
- 20:35phone is another part.
- 20:37The camera's up here and not down here,
- 20:40and that's potency because there's a
- 20:41logical reality in which the camera was
- 20:43down here. So, that that's all that it
- 20:45means really.
- 20:46The second premise is that anything with
- 20:49both actuality and potency requires an
- 20:52outside cause or explanation. So, just
- 20:54like this phone, right? The camera's up
- 20:56here and not down here. So, there has to
- 20:58be an explanation as to why this part is
- 21:01up here instead of being down here.
- 21:04Um so so there has has be an outside
- 21:05cause, and for this phone, the cause or
- 21:07the explanation is the manufacturer that
- 21:10made the phone the way that it is.
- 21:12And then premise three,
- 21:14the material universe is made up of
- 21:17parts and therefore has actuality and
- 21:19potency.
- 21:20So, there is an actual uh aspect of the
- 21:23the universe and then there's potency
- 21:24because it's made up of parts. So,
- 21:26similar to the phone, right? Um I am a
- 21:28part of the universe. This is a part of
- 21:30the universe. My microphone is a part of
- 21:32the universe.
- 21:33Therefore, the universe as a whole has
- 21:35potency. There has to be something that
- 21:37explains the way it is and that's where
- 21:38that's where our conclusion comes from.
- 21:40Therefore, the universe requires an
- 21:41outside cause or explanation. There has
- 21:44to be something that is outside of the
- 21:46material universe that explains its
- 21:48existence in the first place and the way
- 21:51that it is, the efficient cause and the
- 21:54formal cause of the universe. So, that
- 21:56is my go-to argument. I would put it in
- 21:58S-tier because I've literally never seen
- 22:01it not work.
- 22:02Um when you really, you know, get into
- 22:04the nitty-gritty and and start pressing
- 22:06people on these ideas. Those are the
- 22:08arguments for God. That is the ranking.
- 22:10God bless everyone.
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