Eva Schloss MBE - Surviving Auschwitz & The Holocaust — Transcript

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1. 0:00thank you
2. 0:02and remember the SS marching through the
3. 0:07street singing when Jewish blood drips
4. 0:10from our knives then everything is going
5. 0:12to get better
6. 0:15the Germans really wanted to catch every
7. 0:18Jew
8. 0:21I was with my mother hiding in a little
9. 0:24room and then our sister stormed in the
10. 0:28next day we were taken this train we
11. 0:31jumped down we saw we were on a platform
12. 0:33and it was Auschwitz
13. 0:35[Music]
14. 0:40and the next command was men and women
15. 0:43to different side
16. 0:46it was the last time we were together as
17. 0:49a family
18. 0:50[Music]
19. 0:53sometimes we woke up and the people next
20. 0:57to us
21. 0:59died in the sleep
22. 1:02and nearly gave up
23. 1:08but you know I was stubborn I didn't
24. 1:10want to die I wanted to experience life
25. 1:15and one day when the Russians were
26. 1:18coming the Germans had fled taking most
27. 1:21of the inmates with them
28. 1:24Miracles that we didn't go
29. 1:27after the war I was very angry with the
30. 1:30whole world
31. 1:32people could have helped
32. 1:37we still do terrible things
33. 1:42but we have hope that things will get
34. 1:45different I've got a good tip for
35. 1:49president Trump that if he wants to make
36. 1:52America big again he has to get people
37. 1:55educated
38. 1:59we have to learn from history
39. 2:09say that the human race is doomed
40. 2:12that we have lost touch with our true
41. 2:14nature
42. 2:16that the media has corrupted us and that
43. 2:20the planet has no future
44. 2:23I disagree I believe that humanity is
45. 2:27full of Hope
46. 2:29and that our salvation
47. 2:31lies within each one of us
48. 2:35my name is Brian Rose and my job is to
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51. 2:44each week I seek out individuals that
52. 2:47are changing the world
53. 2:49people who are living and thinking in a
54. 2:52different way
55. 2:53their stories will challenge your
56. 2:55beliefs
57. 2:56make you question your choices and
58. 2:59perhaps inspire you to change I never
59. 3:03planned on doing any of this but now I
60. 3:07can't stop
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62. 3:13and make Humanity
63. 3:15something we can all be proud of
64. 3:21it's time for you to man up to once and
65. 3:24for all
66. 3:25tell your mind who the [ __ ] this was I
67. 3:28need a [ __ ] answer What's it gonna be
68. 3:34I don't know what it is about this
69. 3:36[ __ ] sport but it attracts people
70. 3:38that really need to do deep work on
71. 3:40themselves
72. 3:43I failed in the city
73. 3:46all these bad memories
74. 3:48I never really felt like I gave a [ __ ]
75. 3:50about me or my life
76. 3:53I almost killed myself like
77. 3:57think about something that is going to
78. 3:59drive you when it really hurts some kind
79. 4:01of demon you want to fight
80. 4:05I'm just not pushy man this is Iron Man
81. 4:08Under Pressure reveals true character
82. 4:11what are you gonna do
83. 4:13going to be in Chattanooga May 20th or
84. 4:16what
85. 4:22avishlos is extremely unique because she
86. 4:24is one of the few remaining Holocaust
87. 4:27Survivors she's also the stepsister of
88. 4:30Anne Frank which you know from The Diary
89. 4:32of Anne Frank the story of a young girl
90. 4:34in hiding in Amsterdam during the Nazi
91. 4:38occupation and I'm so glad I had this
92. 4:41conversation with Ava because it's easy
93. 4:43to forget what happens when you don't
94. 4:45have it told with someone who was there
95. 4:47and Ava has a harrowing story she grew
96. 4:50up in Austria and everything was okay
97. 4:52and she slowly watched the Nazi party
98. 4:54come into power she went into hiding
99. 4:56when she was in Holland and then on her
100. 4:5915th birthday she was snatched out of
101. 5:00her house and shipped to Auschwitz where
102. 5:03she had a year in captivity fearing for
103. 5:07her life every single day she was
104. 5:09separated from her mother and her father
105. 5:10and her brother
106. 5:12but then she was liberated by the
107. 5:13Russians and made it out
108. 5:15to me when she described it it sounds
109. 5:17like the most incredible year anyone
110. 5:19could have in their life full of Despair
111. 5:22and Terror and Trauma she met the Doctor
112. 5:26Joseph Mengele she thought she was going
113. 5:30to die almost every single day and it
114. 5:32was a really sobering tale and when I
115. 5:33went home at night
116. 5:34and I tried to tell this story to my
117. 5:36daughter it was very difficult and so um
118. 5:40this story is worth listening to so I
119. 5:43just want to thank Ava for spending the
120. 5:45time and going through all this detail I
121. 5:47think telling the story takes a lot out
122. 5:48of her but we cannot forget that this
123. 5:50happened
124. 5:52so recently in our history and we must
125. 5:54do everything we can to make sure it
126. 5:56never happens again so I hope you enjoy
127. 5:58this conversation with Ava
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149. 7:02this is London reel I am Brian Rose my
150. 7:05guest today is Ava Schloss the Holocaust
151. 7:07Survivor educator and peace activist in
152. 7:101944 your family was captured by the
153. 7:12Nazis and transported to the Auschwitz
154. 7:14birkenau concentration camp where you
155. 7:16and your mother survived until you were
156. 7:17freed in 1945. you're also the
157. 7:20stepsister of Anne Frank whose book The
158. 7:22Diary of Anne Frank has been published
159. 7:23in over 60 languages and tells the story
160. 7:25of a 13 year old girl hiding in
161. 7:27Amsterdam from the Nazis in 2012 you
162. 7:30were awarded the MBE and you have
163. 7:32written three detailed books about your
164. 7:34experiences Ava welcome to londonreal
165. 7:36it's a pleasure
166. 7:39it's great having you here we were just
167. 7:41talking about London and how much it
168. 7:43changed uh when did you move to this
169. 7:46city I moved for one year in 1952 from
170. 7:51Amsterdam I was going to be a
171. 7:53photographer
172. 7:54and uh Otto Frank who was my
173. 7:59house friend with my mother at the time
174. 8:01if they were not married yet they were
175. 8:03just very friendly and he helped me a
176. 8:05lot because I was very very very
177. 8:07miserable and so after school I didn't
178. 8:11really know what to do with my life
179. 8:14and I didn't really care and Otto and my
180. 8:18mother decided I should become a
181. 8:19photographer
182. 8:21and it was you know okay why not you
183. 8:24know and Otto gave me his Leica because
184. 8:28he used to take a lot of very nice
185. 8:30pictures of his family and children but
186. 8:33he said I have no family anymore so I'm
187. 8:36never going to take any more photos so
188. 8:39he gave me this very good camera and
189. 8:42said I hope you'll become a successful
190. 8:44photographer and he found me a place in
191. 8:47London where I became an apprentice in
192. 8:50Woburn place
193. 8:52and so I moved to London for a year and
194. 8:57another friend who had known from
195. 9:00Amsterdam who had moved to London found
196. 9:03me a little lodging in cricket Woods
197. 9:06and that was a Czech lady who ran a
198. 9:09little boarding house
199. 9:11and there were about six seven people
200. 9:13and there was a young man from Israel
201. 9:16who had studied economics
202. 9:19and we became friends
203. 9:21and later became my husband
204. 9:24and then we decided to stay here but my
205. 9:29intention was really just a year to come
206. 9:31here okay probably good for you to get
207. 9:34out of Europe and come to a new place
208. 9:37Etc also said we'll do you go to see
209. 9:40something different but at that time I
210. 9:43was actually quite shocked about London
211. 9:45first of all in 52 that was still full
212. 9:50of bomb sites
213. 9:52um really big holes and very neglected
214. 9:55and in Holland I mean we were not well
215. 9:58off but we had a little apartment with
216. 10:01Central Heating and and double glazing
217. 10:04and so and here we had just uh open
218. 10:07fires and um we had a when you had the
219. 10:12bus because there was um
220. 10:14other people so we had to share a
221. 10:17bathroom because we had to put a penny
222. 10:20in to get hot water
223. 10:22and an outside toilet you know which we
224. 10:26had never ever experienced even Austria
225. 10:29where I was born in Vienna in the 30s we
226. 10:33had all these facilities and we always
227. 10:36told that England said is a advanced
228. 10:39country with all the Innovations and the
229. 10:42modern and
230. 10:43fashionable and then when I came to
231. 10:45London I was really shocked and no food
232. 10:48really you know just
233. 10:50buns and cup of tea and a bit of salad
234. 10:54and a few and and in 52 there was still
235. 10:57food rationing which we didn't have
236. 11:00anymore on Holland and certainly not in
237. 11:02Germany wow so it was really a culture
238. 11:05shock very poor food rationing dirty you
239. 11:09talked about the smog
240. 11:11uh the fog yeah the bad air yeah it was
241. 11:15really amazing amazing and we thought
242. 11:18this is a advanced modern country wow
243. 11:21and the auto who gave you the camera
244. 11:24that was your stepfather not that set
245. 11:27time okay but um so I became very
246. 11:30friendly with this Israeli boy and after
247. 11:33six months he said Eva for little love
248. 11:37is you
249. 11:38um let's get married and when I finished
250. 11:40my studies we can start a new life go to
251. 11:43Israel and I said no thank you
252. 11:46because I have a vetoed mother in
253. 11:49Amsterdam and you can imagine we were
254. 11:51very very very close and I couldn't
255. 11:54imagine I would just desert hair
256. 11:58so at Otto Frank came very often to
257. 12:01London keep an eye on me you know
258. 12:03already he realized and needed a bit of
259. 12:06guidance
260. 12:07and I told him that this young man has
261. 12:10asked me to marry him but of course I'm
262. 12:12not
263. 12:13and he got a bit embarrassed and he said
264. 12:16well then you get settled
265. 12:19miyamas and me have fallen in love as
266. 12:22well and we'd like to get married
267. 12:24so I went back to this young man and
268. 12:26said we can marry now which we did we
269. 12:30went to Amsterdam and we got married
270. 12:31there and Otto and my mother got married
271. 12:35a year later wow and so that's where I
272. 12:37became my stepfather and so Otto Frank
273. 12:39was the father of Anne Francis who
274. 12:42survived her in the war he was the only
275. 12:44one who survived the family his two
276. 12:47girls and his wife died his wife in
277. 12:50Auschwitz and the two girls in back at
278. 12:53Bells and wow which was the
279. 12:57Auschwitz where ever stayed
280. 13:00um was liberated in January by the
281. 13:03Russians but back in the Belgian was
282. 13:06liberated in 1944
283. 13:09no 45 in in April 45
284. 13:14by the British
285. 13:17and she
286. 13:18must have died a little bit before the
287. 13:21elevation right okay and I want to talk
288. 13:24later about how Otto you know was with
289. 13:27you after after the war yeah I was
290. 13:29wondering if we could start about where
291. 13:32you were born in Vienna in 1929
292. 13:36in a very wonderful family with
293. 13:41um aunts and uncles and grandparents and
294. 13:44an older brother
295. 13:46and my father had inherited The Shoe
296. 13:50Factory from his father
297. 13:52and he was a very very good businessman
298. 13:55and so we were we were not rich but we
299. 13:58were comfortable
300. 13:59and he was one of the he was a daredevil
301. 14:03very sporty and he was one of the first
302. 14:06people in the 30s to buy a car
303. 14:10and we did excursed into the mountains
304. 14:14and um he he and me ever since about
305. 14:18this sporty by brother he was more later
306. 14:22on we realized he was very artistic and
307. 14:26more gentle but I was really as a tomboy
308. 14:29in the family so I went over this with
309. 14:32my father mountaineering and things like
310. 14:34that and my mother and brother I went
311. 14:37with us but she never went on daring
312. 14:40things she just watched somewhere in a
313. 14:42cafe where the till we came down did you
314. 14:45drive the car as well I did my father
315. 14:48drove very well and you know going up
316. 14:50mountains those beds and my muscles just
317. 14:53sat screaming you know the roads were
318. 14:55not that good at the time and it was
319. 14:58actually quite dangerous but anyway my
320. 15:01father loved all that and so did I
321. 15:06foreign
322. 15:07[Music]
323. 15:40thank you