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  1. 0:00We live in incarnation with a soul
  2. 0:02mission, if you like. There is a
  3. 0:03project after all. So if we carry a
  4. 0:05project, it means that like an
  5. 0:06architect, we have a vision. The soul
  6. 0:08is therefore a plan of consciousness.
  7. 0:09The soul would be a little like the
  8. 0:11pilot that we are who at the moment of
  9. 0:12incarnation comes into his vehicle of
  10. 0:14incarnation. We die in a state of
  11. 0:16absoluteness. The source, God, the
  12. 0:18universe, the cosmos exists, so I have
  13. 0:20left something. Birth is a form of
  14. 0:22death. In fact, matter is spirit at its
  15. 0:25densest vibratory rate. And in that
  16. 0:27case, you turn it upside down. What is
  17. 0:29spirit? Well, it is matter at its
  18. 0:31highest vibratory level. There are
  19. 0:33people who really come to repair in
  20. 0:34this life. It is not easy. You get the
  21. 0:36feeling they're facing one difficulty
  22. 0:38after another, but perhaps there is an
  23. 0:39act of repair. It's a violent world,
  24. 0:41but the first form of violence is the
  25. 0:43kind we do to ourselves by
  26. 0:44superimposing what should be on what is
  27. 0:46. I know it's annoying when creators
  28. 0:55ask you to subscribe, but since I
  29. 0:56started doing this, the channel has
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  34. 1:04delighted to welcome Johann to the show
  35. 1:06today. Johann, thank you very much for
  36. 1:09joining us today.
  37. 1:10Well, you're welcome, Réy, it's a
  38. 1:11pleasure to share. Thank you for
  39. 1:12inviting me. Okay, I like to start my
  40. 1:15episodes quite simply and maybe ask you
  41. 1:17what your life was like before your
  42. 1:18spiritual awakening. And maybe before I
  43. 1:22start you on that question, a quick
  44. 1:24introduction. So you're the
  45. 1:26communications husband we had on the
  46. 1:27podcast not long ago. The episode was
  47. 1:29very insightful, you work together a
  48. 1:31lot. You cover the same topics but each
  49. 1:33with your own angle. So I thought it
  50. 1:35would be interesting to have you on the
  51. 1:36podcast too. So, I am very happy to
  52. 1:38have you with us today. But anyway,
  53. 1:41thank you,
  54. 1:42if we had to go back a little bit, how
  55. 1:44did your spiritual awakening happen for
  56. 1:46you?
  57. 1:48Yeah, well listen, for a first question
  58. 1:50, it's already pretty dense, uh, but
  59. 1:52we'll keep it simple. So, if we really
  60. 1:56had to date or put a key moment, I
  61. 1:58think that's what really started to
  62. 2:00intrigue me. I was quite young, I
  63. 2:02remember that I was already in high
  64. 2:04school and it's something that I often
  65. 2:06talk about when people ask the question
  66. 2:07, but because that's how I experienced
  67. 2:09it. I had the mother of one of my
  68. 2:12girlfriends who was a chikong teacher.
  69. 2:17So, to give you an idea of the time, it
  70. 2:19was the early 2000s, 2002, 2003. At
  71. 2:21that time, I would often go see my
  72. 2:23girlfriend and I would see her mother
  73. 2:26who was doing some weird stuff, you
  74. 2:28know, things at the time, it was
  75. 2:30cultish, this crazy stuff, it was
  76. 2:33occult. I didn't see everyone with
  77. 2:35pendulums, diagrams, etc. So, that
  78. 2:37really interested me, I was very
  79. 2:39curious about it,
  80. 2:42and she was the first one to introduce
  81. 2:44me to it because she saw my curiosity
  82. 2:46and said, "Listen, look, there's a
  83. 2:48pendulum there, try it if you want."
  84. 2:51And in fact, quickly, yes, I take the
  85. 2:53hanged man and then I see, I see that
  86. 2:55something is happening. That is to say,
  87. 2:57there are reactions, the body comes to
  88. 3:00life, there were diagrams, you know,
  89. 3:02graduated in color with and I really
  90. 3:05start to have perceptions but in all
  91. 3:07simplicity. And so that really made me
  92. 3:10wonder about the relationship between
  93. 3:12what we call, to put it quickly, the
  94. 3:14invisible world and the visible world,
  95. 3:16you see, links like why do we say I
  96. 3:18have a backache and that my back hurts?
  97. 3:23Why would there be an interference
  98. 3:25between disturbances in a place and a
  99. 3:27discomfort felt in my flesh, in my
  100. 3:29organs, in my head, in my solar plexus,
  101. 3:31you see? So, let's say that for me,
  102. 3:34spiritual awakening began with
  103. 3:35something very kinesthetic, that is to
  104. 3:38say a sensation of movement, of
  105. 3:39energies. And then from there, it was a
  106. 3:42path that never stopped. Since then,
  107. 3:44I've always been in an awakening phase,
  108. 3:46as I say, we've never arrived, we're in
  109. 3:48a permanent state of awakening. But for
  110. 3:50me, it started there. I would say it
  111. 3:52was at that moment. Yeah.
  112. 3:54OK. And was there a moment when there
  113. 3:56were really important turning points in
  114. 3:58your life where you said, "Okay, so
  115. 3:59there really was a before and an after?
  116. 4:00" Was there one? Were there several?
  117. 4:04Could you take us back to one of these
  118. 4:06turning points? Maybe the first one,
  119. 4:08and then we'll look at a second one
  120. 4:10that was perhaps the most important for
  121. 4:12you. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very
  122. 4:15good. Good question. Yes. So, a first
  123. 4:17turning point. So let's put it
  124. 4:18in context. So, 2000, 2003, I was 18
  125. 4:20years old and I was starting to fumble
  126. 4:22around, let's say, in my research as a
  127. 4:24young man, a post-adolescent, a young
  128. 4:26man, nothing very serious, but hey,
  129. 4:28there's still something there. And
  130. 4:30let's say that's how it is. So it goes
  131. 4:32up, up to a first key moment. I would
  132. 4:35say it was in 2008. So you see, we jump
  133. 4:37a little bit in time. I was 23 at that
  134. 4:39time. So I still have the idea of
  135. 4:41exploring these areas of the invisible,
  136. 4:43of energy, of great movements of
  137. 4:45consciousness. And then, I started to
  138. 4:48experience, but really, in a very, very
  139. 4:51marked way, what we call today
  140. 4:53synchronicities. Ah, I was...Yeah,
  141. 4:55that's fine, you're still here. Uh,
  142. 4:57synchronicities. So there's no need for
  143. 5:00me to go into detail about what
  144. 5:02synchronicity is, but the idea is that
  145. 5:03there are very powerful, striking
  146. 5:05events that for you, or rather for me,
  147. 5:07had a significance that for others
  148. 5:08would have gone completely unnoticed.
  149. 5:11And what do I mean by that? Well, that
  150. 5:12was the time when I I was working, I
  151. 5:14was in Paris, at that time, I was
  152. 5:15finishing my studies, I was finishing
  153. 5:17my master's degree in political science
  154. 5:18, you know. It had nothing to do with
  155. 5:20energy, right? I was on a university
  156. 5:23track, but I was working in Paris and,
  157. 5:25uh, and in fact, the same week, the
  158. 5:27same week, I received from the studies
  159. 5:29office, how, from Science Pois, that I
  160. 5:31was still a student; I received an
  161. 5:33internship offer for, how can I say, a
  162. 5:36position in Melbourne, Australia, in
  163. 5:38event communication, something like
  164. 5:40that. It caught my attention. I can't
  165. 5:43say why I never set foot in Australia.
  166. 5:45I'm not particularly attracted to
  167. 5:46Australia, except for the image of
  168. 5:48surfers, cool people and sunshine, you
  169. 5:50know. That's it, I wasn't going to look
  170. 5:51any further. But it caught my attention
  171. 5:53and I said to myself, ", I really
  172. 5:55want to apply." Then I got carried away
  173. 5:57, writing. I sent an email to try to
  174. 5:59get this internship. It turns out that
  175. 6:02I was actually refused. They told me, "
  176. 6:04Well no, sorry, the offer has already
  177. 6:05been accepted by someone else, so it
  178. 6:07won't work. Too bad.""Okay, still in
  179. 6:09the same week, I was coming home from
  180. 6:11work. I was walking to work, I was
  181. 6:13walking from home to the office. I had
  182. 6:15this chance, you know. And I ran into
  183. 6:17the improbable thing in the street, I
  184. 6:19ran into a guy I knew 10 years ago in
  185. 6:22high school and, uh, the end of middle
  186. 6:24school, the beginning of high school.
  187. 6:26And in fact, I hadn't seen this guy
  188. 6:27again, you know. No contact, no email,
  189. 6:29nothing, nothing. I recognized him. His
  190. 6:31name was Émile. I said," Damn, Émile,
  191. 6:32what are you doing here? "He said to me
  192. 6:33," Wow, that's incredible Johan, I'm
  193. 6:35coming back from Australia, I've just
  194. 6:36landed here, I'm in Paris, I'm coming
  195. 6:37back from Australia, I'm homeless. Can
  196. 6:39I sleep at your place? "Basically, I'll
  197. 6:41keep it short, but that's it. And in
  198. 6:42fact, I ended up putting up this friend
  199. 6:44Émile for a few days at my place and
  200. 6:45he followed me. He said to me," Oh, if
  201. 6:48you ever go to Australia, he gave me
  202. 6:49all his contacts, the friends who put
  203. 6:51him up, the people he worked for. "Well
  204. 6:54, I thought, hey, there's something,
  205. 6:56we're still in the same week, Réy,
  206. 6:58same week. At that time, I subscribed
  207. 7:00to an English practice magazine. I
  208. 7:02don't know, the older ones will recall
  209. 7:04it was Vocable. It was for you to know
  210. 7:06how to study English. So you had a CD.
  211. 7:08Anyway. And there's a special issue on
  212. 7:11Australia, the big rock in the center
  213. 7:13there, the Houlourou, the center of the
  214. 7:15desert with a whole description of the
  215. 7:17Gan, the train that goes to Australia.
  216. 7:20I thought, damn, there really are signs
  217. 7:21. The internship, the friend back from
  218. 7:23Australia, etc. The next day, I assure
  219. 7:27you it's true, it's really not
  220. 7:28something I'm talking about to do the
  221. 7:30next day, I go back to work and there
  222. 7:32in my mailbox I have Yes. So finally
  223. 7:34the person who had committed to taking
  224. 7:35the position in Australia has withdrawn
  225. 7:37. Are you still a candidate? I said to
  226. 7:41myself, well yes, of course I'm still a
  227. 7:42candidate but you see I'm going to
  228. 7:44speed things up because I don't want to
  229. 7:45be too long on this. So in the same
  230. 7:48week, I had the proof, the validation,
  231. 7:50or rather the verification that the
  232. 7:52synchronicities were something real,
  233. 7:54effective and very concrete, because
  234. 7:55concretely, in the space of a month, I
  235. 7:57had completed my, or rather what was
  236. 7:59going to become a permanent contract,
  237. 8:01to a contract in the company where I
  238. 8:03was. Finally, I handed in my
  239. 8:05resignation. I organized my trip to
  240. 8:08Australia and used all the contacts my
  241. 8:10friend had given me, which meant that
  242. 8:12my trip was prepared 1,000 times better
  243. 8:14than I could have imagined. And to end
  244. 8:17on an anecdote, it so happened that the
  245. 8:19day I took the train to go and pack my
  246. 8:22bags, from Paris to the north of
  247. 8:24Pascalis because I lived in Pas de
  248. 8:26Calais, on the train platform, I met a
  249. 8:28lady who was struggling with her
  250. 8:30suitcases. I helped her take her
  251. 8:32suitcases to get on the train and she
  252. 8:34said to me," Oh, thank you so much, so
  253. 8:35happy to find you. "Blah blah blah. She
  254. 8:38said to me," I'm from Australia, I live
  255. 8:39in Cambéra, we chatted for an hour on
  256. 8:41the train and she said to me, "You
  257. 8:42Johann, when you arrive in Australia,
  258. 8:44you're coming to spend Christmas at
  259. 8:45home, I don't want you to be all alone
  260. 8:47for your first New Year's Eve in
  261. 8:48Australia." I was listened to, guided,
  262. 8:51very guided. So for me, that was a key
  263. 8:53moment, you see, in synchronicities, in
  264. 8:55my awakening. I told myself we have a
  265. 8:57destiny, there is
  266. 8:59something we cannot control. I hadn't
  267. 9:00planned to do all that and life led me
  268. 9:02by a game of clues as if by the tip of
  269. 9:05my nose.
  270. 9:06So that was my first big moment.
  271. 9:08You tell me if I make tunnels or not,
  272. 9:10it's super interesting and it's true
  273. 9:11that it's a subject that I don't
  274. 9:12discuss very much on, well up until now
  275. 9:14I haven't discussed much in the podcast
  276. 9:15, it's the subject of synchronicities
  277. 9:17and I hear people talking about it.
  278. 9:19Uh but suddenly it's very curious
  279. 9:20perhaps to delve a little deeper into
  280. 9:21that point. Uh, I wanted to better
  281. 9:23understand what you understand today
  282. 9:24about what's happening. So
  283. 9:26synchronicity is the signs, it's the
  284. 9:27universe that, uh, puts little things
  285. 9:28on your mind. on your path and where
  286. 9:31all the stars seem to be aligning and
  287. 9:33going well for you. What is your
  288. 9:36understanding from a point of view,
  289. 9:38perhaps megaphysical or a bit physical
  290. 9:39or whatever,
  291. 9:40that explains these synchronicities?
  292. 9:43Yeah, well that's a very good question
  293. 9:44and it's true that it's a bit in the
  294. 9:45air because there are a lot of people
  295. 9:47who talk about it. So, to, to, to, to
  296. 9:50immediately make a reference that will
  297. 9:52surely speak to your subscribers, to
  298. 9:54your listeners, I quite like the
  299. 9:56explanation of Philippe Guimand, who is
  300. 9:59, a French physicist who has had a
  301. 10:01great boom in recent years and who
  302. 10:03explains for him, uh, that in fact
  303. 10:05these synchronicities are in fact a way
  304. 10:08of, let's say, communicating or being
  305. 10:10addressed, of receiving information
  306. 10:12directly from the self, from our future
  307. 10:15self, huh. This means the idea of the
  308. 10:18future is manifesting in our present. I
  309. 10:22will not develop Philippe Guimand's
  310. 10:23theory any further. I will let people
  311. 10:25listen to all that, but I find that
  312. 10:27this idea of retrocausality—that is
  313. 10:29to say, that we would have a purpose, a
  314. 10:32version of ourselves that is complete,
  315. 10:34pure and perfect, in a way accomplished
  316. 10:36—well, that this version seeks to
  317. 10:38connect us in our present state. And so
  318. 10:42synchronicities would be a way of
  319. 10:43calling us, you see, through a game of
  320. 10:45encounters, signs, symbols, sometimes
  321. 10:48dreams. There you have it. So this is
  322. 10:50an interpretation that I subscribe to.
  323. 10:52I will tell you in my own words.
  324. 10:54Synchronicity, well, in fact, is the
  325. 10:55idea that we all have a destiny. We are
  326. 10:58, in fact, above all, a soul, an
  327. 11:00incarnate spirit and that this more
  328. 11:03etheric, more spiritual part has a
  329. 11:05program, it has a project of
  330. 11:07incarnation. and how it is going to go
  331. 11:09about it. to help us achieve our goals,
  332. 11:12and indeed through a series of events,
  333. 11:14i.e. encounters. That's where everyone,
  334. 11:17you know, there's no need to be
  335. 11:19exceptional. We've all had significant
  336. 11:21encounters in our lives. The karmic
  337. 11:23reunion aspect, twin flames, sisters.
  338. 11:27So there are encounters that trigger
  339. 11:29reactions and directions in our lives.
  340. 11:32And I think that in fact these
  341. 11:34synchronicities are there to help us
  342. 11:36manifest our destiny, our destiny.
  343. 11:39So we could also explain it perhaps
  344. 11:43with astrology, you see, the fact that
  345. 11:47there are cycles and that time and
  346. 11:51space are a bit like a mega Rubicube
  347. 11:55that sometimes snaps, ...than reason
  348. 11:59and logic. But we know in our hearts,
  349. 12:03intuitively, that this is where we need
  350. 12:05to go, even though it defies all reason
  351. 12:07.
  352. 12:08And synchronicities are there for us,
  353. 12:10here we go, adding a little bit of
  354. 12:11what I like about your explanation and
  355. 12:13what I interpret from your explanation
  356. 12:15—tell me if I'm stretching things a
  357. 12:17little too far—one of the elements,
  358. 12:19well, one of the aspects that I always
  359. 12:21have trouble with about synchronicity
  360. 12:23is the aspect: it's people who put
  361. 12:25little things in your path, as if
  362. 12:26someone was pulling the strings. Uh,
  363. 12:29and for me, that was perhaps a bit
  364. 12:30simplistic, and so I rejected the whole
  365. 12:33idea as "no." But then, I think it can
  366. 12:36also be on the other side of the
  367. 12:38spectrum by saying to ourselves: "Well,
  368. 12:40in fact, there is reality as we know it
  369. 12:42with all its properties and tools or
  370. 12:44objects that are perhaps neutral, and
  371. 12:46we're going to put meaning into it."
  372. 12:49And the fact that we find meaning in
  373. 12:51all these things, OK, we create that
  374. 12:53meaning, but that means that there is a
  375. 12:55kind of resonance effect with something
  376. 12:57else. And maybe that's what you're
  377. 13:00saying, that in fact, for a moment, we
  378. 13:02see synchronicity, and the fact that we
  379. 13:03see synchronicity means that we
  380. 13:05resonate with something bigger. So this
  381. 13:08object would have always been there but
  382. 13:10it's the fact that we create this
  383. 13:12relationship and there you have it, you
  384. 13:13explained it much better than me, but
  385. 13:15it's true that it just clicks in my
  386. 13:17confusion. Yeah, yeah, I don't think
  387. 13:20what you summarize is very well said
  388. 13:22and it just allows me to add something,
  389. 13:24if you don't mind, on
  390. 13:26the idea of synchronicities because
  391. 13:27it's very fashionable and but I'm
  392. 13:29pretty, well, I don't have any
  393. 13:31criticism to make. on this trend, huh?
  394. 13:34I think it's good that people have a
  395. 13:35more refined awareness of signs and
  396. 13:36symbols. But there are two trends where
  397. 13:39I would say, be careful with
  398. 13:41synchronicities. You were right, and I
  399. 13:44think we should be wary. The idea of
  400. 13:46saying, "Look, a feather fell from the
  401. 13:48sky, so maybe it's my angel
  402. 13:49communicating," or "There's a guide,
  403. 13:51there's a guide who showed me 111 on
  404. 13:56the clock face." I'm very careful with
  405. 14:01that because we have to be careful not
  406. 14:03to overinterpret signs that we
  407. 14:04absolutely want to fit into the
  408. 14:06category of spirituality. For example,
  409. 14:10spirituality for some people, there
  410. 14:11wasn't one spirituality, mind you, it's
  411. 14:13different concepts. But for some people
  412. 14:15, it's going to be angelology. That's
  413. 14:17it, believing in angels. So, everything
  414. 14:19will be passed through the spectrum and
  415. 14:20the filter of angels. So, yes, a And a
  416. 14:22feather falling from the sky will
  417. 14:24become a symbol that our guardian angel
  418. 14:26is watching over us. And why not? Well,
  419. 14:28that's not my interpretation. Well, you
  420. 14:33shouldn't split hairs and always say to
  421. 14:35yourself, "Hey, in the cloud in the sky
  422. 14:36, there's a cloud in the shape of
  423. 14:38something." It just so happens that
  424. 14:40right now I'm thinking about this. So
  425. 14:43if I see the cloud, it's a sign that I
  426. 14:45absolutely have to buy this thing or do
  427. 14:47something. You see. I like to keep it
  428. 14:50simple and say that if it's a
  429. 14:52synchronicity, it's something that
  430. 14:54spontaneously calls out to you beyond
  431. 14:56your own codes. Because if you're set
  432. 15:01up to tell yourself, "I believe in this
  433. 15:03or that thing," your subconscious brain
  434. 15:06is set up and calibrated to only pay
  435. 15:08attention to those things.
  436. 15:10So I can find lots of signs. I could
  437. 15:12say, "Damn, that's crazy, Remy. look
  438. 15:13behind you, you have a saddle lamp."
  439. 15:15Crazy stuff. I wanted to buy one. Oh,
  440. 15:18yeah. Well, it's just that I was
  441. 15:20already in the mode of wanting to see a
  442. 15:22saddle lamp everywhere, you know, like
  443. 15:24pregnant women syndrome. Suddenly,
  444. 15:26there are thousands of pregnant women,
  445. 15:28we didn't see them, and then all of a
  446. 15:29sudden we do. Or maybe I want to buy
  447. 15:31the new car or something. Well, just by
  448. 15:33chance, I see this car everywhere
  449. 15:35around me. And I think that there are
  450. 15:37people who sometimes rush into the
  451. 15:38phenomenon of synchronicity a bit too
  452. 15:39quickly.
  453. 15:40Hm. On the other hand, it's true that
  454. 15:42we also have to trust ourselves, you
  455. 15:44know. I especially want to say this to
  456. 15:45the people who are listening to us. We
  457. 15:47have to learn to trust ourselves and
  458. 15:49recognize what makes our hearts beat.
  459. 15:51That is to say that there comes a time,
  460. 15:52there is something that touches us
  461. 15:53sincerely and deeply. And that belongs
  462. 15:55to us. It doesn't have need to be
  463. 15:57validated by a book that says
  464. 15:58synchronicity, it has to happen like
  465. 15:59this, like this, like that. You see, I
  466. 16:01like to think outside the box and not
  467. 16:03say we have to follow the protocol,
  468. 16:04otherwise we won't get by.
  469. 16:06Yeah. So it's more of a tool that can
  470. 16:08help us better reconnect with what we
  471. 16:10feel inside us and reconnect with our
  472. 16:12intuition in fact.
  473. 16:14Absolutely. I think it's a good, it's a
  474. 16:17good bridge to another topic that I
  475. 16:18wanted to discuss with you today, but
  476. 16:20also that I cover relatively little on
  477. 16:22the podcast because generally speaking
  478. 16:24I don't really like to focus on tools.
  479. 16:26I like to reconnect with the ideas
  480. 16:28behind the tools, let's say because I
  481. 16:30think we can get lost exploring all the
  482. 16:3210, or rather the thousands of tools
  483. 16:34that exist. But one of these tools is
  484. 16:36astrology. I know very little about it.
  485. 16:38I know that you're very knowledgeable.
  486. 16:39in there.
  487. 16:40Uh, and one of the questions I have is
  488. 16:42this distinction between symbolism and
  489. 16:44a tool that can serve as a mirror to
  490. 16:47reconnect with one's intuition and what
  491. 16:49is true for us.
  492. 16:50So typically, we read a horoscope, well
  493. 16:52, I imagine that Euroscopes can be made
  494. 16:54to say anything and everything, but
  495. 16:56that doesn't mean that everything is
  496. 16:57bought in the trash. I think that it
  497. 16:59can still have a value. I read the
  498. 17:01horoscope, is there something that
  499. 17:02resonates with me? Yes or no. And
  500. 17:04that's what will be useful in fact. Uh,
  501. 17:06well, that's my interpretation of it.
  502. 17:09Uh, I understood from the comments I
  503. 17:11receive that there was perhaps more to
  504. 17:12astrology than just the symbolic side.
  505. 17:15But suddenly, I would be curious to
  506. 17:17have your perspective and perhaps start
  507. 17:19exploring this subject with you.
  508. 17:22Yeah, of course, with pleasure. Uh
  509. 17:24First of all, I want to say that I
  510. 17:26don't define myself as an astrologer. I
  511. 17:30don't like to label myself that way,
  512. 17:32not out of false humility or just to
  513. 17:34remind people that I'm not an authority
  514. 17:37on the subject. I'm passionate about
  515. 17:39astrology. I find it a wonderful tool.
  516. 17:42It is truly a tool for self-knowledge
  517. 17:45that also possesses the virtue of
  518. 17:47connecting us, in some way, with
  519. 17:49something that is clearly transcendent.
  520. 17:53In essence, we are in these emanations
  521. 17:55that connect us more with the cosmos,
  522. 17:57with the universe, with great lives,
  523. 18:00great life forms, planets,
  524. 18:01constellations. So, I'm passionate
  525. 18:04about it and it's true that I use
  526. 18:06astrology as a tool for self-knowledge
  527. 18:08in my work and my tools. I just wanted
  528. 18:11to say that for everyone. So to your
  529. 18:12question, when I prepare an
  530. 18:15astrological chart for someone, I
  531. 18:17always say this in the introduction
  532. 18:18because I like to remind people who are
  533. 18:20going to receive their astrological
  534. 18:22chart. I say, there are two ways of
  535. 18:24looking at things. Either we look at
  536. 18:26astrology from the perspective of
  537. 18:29astronomy, that is to say, the laws of
  538. 18:34the planets, that is to say, their mass
  539. 18:36, their density, gravity, and their
  540. 18:37revolution. You see, we observe things
  541. 18:41in the sky and we say to ourselves, "
  542. 18:43Yes, potentially, these balls of gas or
  543. 18:45earth or these objects can have a
  544. 18:47mechanical influence on the Earth." You
  545. 18:51see, we know that, for example, the
  546. 18:53Moon has a tidal effect, or rather a
  547. 18:54tidal motor, on the movements of water.
  548. 18:58That's a way of saying, "OK, so I can
  549. 19:00understand that the planets exert an
  550. 19:01influence on us." It's a reading. Well,
  551. 19:04it's a bit poor, let's say, to
  552. 19:06understand how it really affects us.
  553. 19:09Well, what I like to look at is that
  554. 19:10ultimately these planets, and this is a
  555. 19:11bit of the idea that runs through
  556. 19:12Hermeticism, you see. It's this science
  557. 19:15, or rather this branch of occultism,
  558. 19:17which tries to consider that everything
  559. 19:19that is below is like and in the image
  560. 19:21of what is above and vice versa, you
  561. 19:23know. Know yourself, know yourself and
  562. 19:25you will know the laws of the universe.
  563. 19:28And in that case, the planets are no
  564. 19:29longer just bits of rock or balls of
  565. 19:31gas gravitating around us. They are in
  566. 19:34fact mirrors of the energy centers that
  567. 19:37are within us. You see, Ry? So, if I
  568. 19:40tell you, well, there's the sun,
  569. 19:42there's the moon, uh, you're going to
  570. 19:44look up, you're going to say, "Yeah, OK
  571. 19:45, I see." But if I tell you, in fact,
  572. 19:48the sun is the radiance of your soul,
  573. 19:51it's your essence, it's who you are
  574. 19:53deep down, and the Moon is how you
  575. 19:55experience your emotions through your
  576. 19:57body. The Moon is everything that gives
  577. 20:00us our somatic experiences. How I feel,
  578. 20:03how I comfort myself. In the same way,
  579. 20:07Mercury, you know, in mythology,
  580. 20:08Mercury was the messenger of the gods.
  581. 20:11Mercury, messenger, is the idea that
  582. 20:14it's a planet that will show us how we
  583. 20:16communicate, how we are messengers, so
  584. 20:18how I think, how I use my mind, how I
  585. 20:21communicate. I'm not going to give you
  586. 20:24the whole map, but in fact each planet
  587. 20:25becomes an energy center within us. And
  588. 20:27we can go further and even say it's
  589. 20:29more than an energy center, it's really
  590. 20:31a psychic function, that is to say a
  591. 20:33mental, emotional, physical function.
  592. 20:36Mars, for example, is really your
  593. 20:38energy Yang. How does Réy, uh,
  594. 20:40activate himself in life? Do you see
  595. 20:42what type of energy he mobilizes? Is he
  596. 20:44a guy who is very fiery? Is he a guy
  597. 20:46who is a bit temperamental or is he
  598. 20:48someone who has a more gentle energy
  599. 20:49when listening? Well, you see, we could
  600. 20:52say, "Well yes, that's normal, his
  601. 20:53planet Mars is in Cancer or in You see,
  602. 20:55you see the idea? The planets are
  603. 20:58actually very internal things, in fact,
  604. 21:01are we in the order of symbolism here
  605. 21:03or are we still in the order of the
  606. 21:05physical or metaphysical of Caesar who
  607. 21:08would interfere?
  608. 21:12Well, I think you see, it's like the
  609. 21:13fact that maybe there is, you see, I
  610. 21:15don't know to what extent it's a
  611. 21:16parallel word but the chakra system
  612. 21:18where there is also a bit of this logic
  613. 21:19, and there is also this question of
  614. 21:21symbolism or physiology that arises;
  615. 21:22And what I understand is that there may
  616. 21:24be a bit of both. I think it helps to
  617. 21:26have a square system to put words and a
  618. 21:28finger on a whole bunch of phenomena
  619. 21:30that help explain the human experience.
  620. 21:34Uh, but I think that behind the chakras
  621. 21:35, well, in fact, there are indeed
  622. 21:37energy centers that are along the spine
  623. 21:39with hormonal glands that perhaps
  624. 21:40dictate how the body functions. So,
  625. 21:43it's perhaps not as well categorized as
  626. 21:45what we have when we see it on the
  627. 21:47boards that we see. Yeah. Yeah. That's
  628. 21:48it. But that it finally joins, that the
  629. 21:50two actually come together. Is that a
  630. 21:52bit your interpretation and your
  631. 21:54understanding? Yes, yes, yes, I
  632. 21:55completely agree with you. I agree with
  633. 21:58you and I'll go back to that quickly if
  634. 21:59you want on the chakras. The example is
  635. 22:02good. Indeed, if we take a somewhat
  636. 22:04abstract view of chakras, we say," Yeah
  637. 22:07, it's energy. "Okay, describe it
  638. 22:09better. What is energy? Ah, I don't
  639. 22:11know, it's something I feel. Well, you
  640. 22:14see, sometimes it's very vague. Energy
  641. 22:16is really information. Ah, look, it's
  642. 22:18information. Okay. So, what does
  643. 22:20information mean? Well, it's a flow,
  644. 22:22it's a movement. Okay. So if chakras
  645. 22:25are a flow of energy or a movement in
  646. 22:27themselves, then we're actually
  647. 22:28touching on something that becomes
  648. 22:30physiological. Physiological. So we can
  649. 22:35, at that point, link a chakra to
  650. 22:37glands. And you're absolutely right and
  651. 22:39that's the case, huh. You have the root
  652. 22:41chakra, the sacral chakra, these are
  653. 22:43the sexual glands. So it will typically
  654. 22:45be the testicles, the adrenal glands,
  655. 22:47the gonads, the adrenal glands, the
  656. 22:48pancreas for the plexus, the thymus,
  657. 22:50the thyroid, the pineal gland, the
  658. 22:52pituitary gland. There you go. OK. So,
  659. 22:56there you have it, huh, your example is
  660. 22:58perfectly chosen. I'm not forgetting
  661. 23:01that we're going to talk about
  662. 23:03astrology, but it clearly shows that
  663. 23:04there is no differentiation, there is
  664. 23:06no separation, never, between the
  665. 23:08energetic part, let's say, come on, I'm
  666. 23:10going to, I'm going to put a word, a
  667. 23:12big word here, the spiritual part and
  668. 23:14the material part. And for your
  669. 23:18listeners and for you, I'm going to add
  670. 23:19this sentence that I often use, it's
  671. 23:21confusing at first but we understand it
  672. 23:23well. One way of defining matter, huh,
  673. 23:27is to say that matter is spirit at its
  674. 23:30densest vibratory rate. And in that
  675. 23:35case, you're turning the thing upside
  676. 23:36down. What is spirit? Well, so it's
  677. 23:39matter at its highest vibrational level
  678. 23:41. And that's interesting, because if
  679. 23:44you...if you accept it, then you have
  680. 23:46to accept it, right? And I'm putting it
  681. 23:48out there, on the table, for everyone.
  682. 23:50I'm not telling you:" This is the truth
  683. 23:51", but if you consider things as a
  684. 23:53continuum between spirit and matter,
  685. 23:54you see that in fact, it's the same
  686. 23:56thing with two complementary opposite
  687. 23:58poles. There is no separation. So let's
  688. 24:02go back to astrology. Indeed, we can
  689. 24:04see the planets just from a material
  690. 24:07point of view: it's a globe with a
  691. 24:09density, a mass that has a mechanical
  692. 24:12effect, n na. And then there are those
  693. 24:15who will say:" No, not at all, in fact
  694. 24:17it's pure consciousness, they are
  695. 24:18energy centers, so there is a radiation
  696. 24:20. "But in fact, it's both. We are
  697. 24:23spirit and matter. The stars are spirit
  698. 24:25and matter. And so, as we are, we
  699. 24:28respond to this same law, we are in
  700. 24:30harmony with these influences, if you
  701. 24:32will. So it is normal that we find, uh,
  702. 24:35the spirit of Mars, the spirit of Venus
  703. 24:38, the spirit of Mercury in us. And then
  704. 24:42, we can go further in the So, there
  705. 24:45are some very funny people who do this,
  706. 24:48alchemists or who explain to you what,
  707. 24:51how, what metals are associated with
  708. 24:54each planet. Venus, copper, the moon,
  709. 24:57silver, the sun, gold, uh, lead, Saturn
  710. 25:01. And it's funny because when we study
  711. 25:04the human body, we realize that all
  712. 25:05these elements, you see, in the table
  713. 25:07of contents, we have them in us. We are
  714. 25:11made of minerals. So you see to what
  715. 25:15extent the spirit and matter are
  716. 25:17constantly connected and we can make
  717. 25:18bridges like that all the time. So yes,
  718. 25:21astrology is not something outside of
  719. 25:23us, it is first and foremost the
  720. 25:25mapping of our energy centers and our
  721. 25:27consciousness. At least
  722. 25:30for the interpretation that I give it.
  723. 25:31There you have it.
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  752. 26:17video, as always. Let's get back to it.
  753. 26:19Another element that, for me, from what
  754. 26:22I understand about astrology, seems
  755. 26:24important, is when there's an alignment
  756. 26:26of the planets and perhaps a resonance
  757. 26:28effect between, well, from what I
  758. 26:30understand from what you're explaining
  759. 26:33to me, is that each planet radiates a
  760. 26:35frequency that is perhaps linked to the
  761. 26:37material reality of what it is and its
  762. 26:39materials, its main components. But
  763. 26:42suddenly, there's this resonant
  764. 26:43frequency. Uh, is there a resonance
  765. 26:46effect that could increase the effect
  766. 26:48that these different stars can have on
  767. 26:49our consciousness? So, do I understand
  768. 26:53your question correctly? Do you mean,
  769. 26:55uh, that, uh, there is, how do you say,
  770. 26:58when you say the stars align or the
  771. 27:00stars align, it is to see, uh, the
  772. 27:02impact of the planetary movements and
  773. 27:04how we receive it and how we experience
  774. 27:07it? Or perhaps, a way to generalize the
  775. 27:10question is precisely: how can the
  776. 27:13different movements and alignments of
  777. 27:15these stars impact differently, what
  778. 27:18does it impact and how does it impact?
  779. 27:22Very good. So yes, the question then
  780. 27:25becomes why when the planets move in
  781. 27:27the sky, it would impact the collective
  782. 27:30in a certain way and why would it
  783. 27:32impact the individual differently or
  784. 27:34how would it
  785. 27:36impact both the collective and the
  786. 27:38individual? Well, here, it's the idea
  787. 27:42that humanity in some way forms an
  788. 27:45entity. Now, be careful, when I say
  789. 27:49entity, it's not a negative word here,
  790. 27:50it's not an entity, an egregore,
  791. 27:52something. It means that if we take the
  792. 27:54image, you know, of drops of water that
  793. 27:56form the ocean, we're going to say that
  794. 27:58each consciousness, each individual is
  795. 28:00itself the cell of a body that
  796. 28:02surpasses it and of which it is a
  797. 28:03component. So if we take the human cell
  798. 28:07, well as a body, as a global
  799. 28:08consciousness, we are, I mean the “we
  800. 28:11,” the collective is influenced by
  801. 28:13these planetary movements. So, when the
  802. 28:17planets move in the sky and, for
  803. 28:19example, you see in the sky recently,
  804. 28:20there was a big thing there with what
  805. 28:22was called the configuration of the
  806. 28:26Barbeau basket, that is to say that
  807. 28:28there were very large planets that
  808. 28:30formed harmonious aspects between
  809. 28:32themselves, between Neptune, Uranus,
  810. 28:34Pluto, Jupiter, and so it was seen as a
  811. 28:36favorable period of collective
  812. 28:38expansion. I am simplifying because in
  813. 28:41fact I do not want us to do only
  814. 28:43astrology. But so it means that there
  815. 28:45are indeed movements that collectively
  816. 28:48will influence in a direction. But I
  817. 28:51always remember that the sky proposes
  818. 28:54and we dispose. That is to say, if you
  819. 28:58are not at all aware of what is
  820. 29:00happening, you see, in the same way
  821. 29:01that when you breathe there, you don't
  822. 29:03pay too much attention, well you will
  823. 29:04breathe like almost everyone else. You
  824. 29:06will just breathe a little bit into
  825. 29:07your floating ribs with your
  826. 29:09collarbones. You will be there. Okay,
  827. 29:11and then suddenly you wait, wait, you
  828. 29:13will start breathing with your belly
  829. 29:17and then you will capture much more
  830. 29:18information. You will already feel
  831. 29:21things that you did not feel before and
  832. 29:23you will listen to things. Astrology, I
  833. 29:25want to tell you, is a bit the same. If
  834. 29:26we do not pay attention to what is
  835. 29:28happening, well, the energies will pass
  836. 29:29over us and then we will not pay too
  837. 29:31much attention to the repercussions
  838. 29:32that it has on our life. On the other
  839. 29:34hand, if we pay attention to what is
  840. 29:35happening, that is to say, we try to
  841. 29:36listen, to interpret a little bit. Okay
  842. 29:38, Uranus, okay, Uranus, I realize that
  843. 29:40this is going to be something rather
  844. 29:41electric. There is an electrical
  845. 29:44tension that brings about a, how can I
  846. 29:46say, a break-up of certain values or a
  847. 29:49fairly sudden change. Now I can see the
  848. 29:53resonance this has in the collective.
  849. 29:55Now, what does this imply for me? You
  850. 29:57see, it is always a question of" I
  851. 30:00observe what is happening outside, but
  852. 30:02above all I observe what is happening
  853. 30:04inside. "And that is how we can say
  854. 30:06that the planets exert an influence
  855. 30:09because we see movements in humanity
  856. 30:11that correspond or would correspond to
  857. 30:13movements of the planets. And then, why
  858. 30:17does it resonate differently in you?
  859. 30:19Well, I would say it is because you
  860. 30:20should look at your birth chart. You,
  861. 30:22in fact, how you are set up, how you
  862. 30:25are wired, which means that you will
  863. 30:27enter more or less into harmony with
  864. 30:29what is happening in the sky at that
  865. 30:31moment. Like a piece of music that we
  866. 30:35would put on: not everyone will be
  867. 30:37sensitive to classical music or punk
  868. 30:38rock or techno, or you know, there is
  869. 30:40something that will make us vibrate
  870. 30:42more than anything else because we are
  871. 30:43wired differently. I don't know if I
  872. 30:45answered your question. It's about what
  873. 30:48we all have a slightly different
  874. 30:50frequency. Which is like the Ri
  875. 30:52frequency for example which is impremi
  876. 30:55which takes a bit of the blue like well
  877. 30:57my imprint which takes a bit of the
  878. 30:59imprint of the moment and the way in
  879. 31:01which I began the incarnation and which
  880. 31:04will determine what I resonate with for
  881. 31:06the rest of my existence.
  882. 31:08Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. That's very
  883. 31:11well said. Yeah. That's a good bridge
  884. 31:14to another topic that I wanted to
  885. 31:15explore with you. We've delved into
  886. 31:18astrology quite a bit, and I find it
  887. 31:20intriguing and interesting. I invite
  888. 31:22people who are intrigued and interested
  889. 31:24to delve a little deeper into the
  890. 31:26subject, but it connects with something
  891. 31:27else that you mentioned at the
  892. 31:29beginning of the episode, which is this
  893. 31:31idea of the soul incarnating. Perhaps
  894. 31:34before we try to better understand the
  895. 31:37mechanics, the why, the how, etc.,
  896. 31:39let's start by going back in time and
  897. 31:41seeing when you reconnected with this
  898. 31:44idea and how you experienced it. Is it
  899. 31:47a memory that you had? Is it an
  900. 31:49understanding that you gained based on
  901. 31:51teachings that you've absorbed? So, how
  902. 31:53did you reconnect with this idea?
  903. 32:01Well, you see, I'm going to try to
  904. 32:02distinguish in my memories what comes
  905. 32:03from, let's say, the perception of what
  906. 32:05the soul would be like in these moments
  907. 32:06of awakening. It's still something
  908. 32:09different for me. So, I'm really going
  909. 32:12to speak for myself, Réy, I'm not
  910. 32:13saying that's how it is. For me, the
  911. 32:16soul has always been, the signature of
  912. 32:19the soul has always been sensitivity.
  913. 32:23I'm someone, well, if I have to put
  914. 32:25words, labels, I work a lot on
  915. 32:27kinesthetics, I used the word earlier,
  916. 32:29that is to say, really the sensation of
  917. 32:32movement, of waves, you see. Today
  918. 32:36we're talking about hypersensitivity in
  919. 32:38people and I think it's good to put
  920. 32:39names to what happens to us. But for me
  921. 32:41, sensitivity is really the
  922. 32:43characteristic of the soul, sensitivity
  923. 32:45and intuition. That is to say, a form
  924. 32:47of, how would I say, making contact
  925. 32:50with reality beyond the five senses,
  926. 32:53beyond the mind, beyond reason and pure
  927. 32:56reasoning. What makes me have moods?
  928. 32:59The French language is very
  929. 33:00well-written on this subject. In one's
  930. 33:02soul and conscience, to have moods. I
  931. 33:05come back to your question. I think
  932. 33:07that when I was very, very young, I
  933. 33:09wasn't even a young teenager or a young
  934. 33:11adult. When I was little, I had great
  935. 33:14surges of, really, sensitivity, uh,
  936. 33:16that I couldn't explain, out-of-body
  937. 33:18sensations, thoughts, etc. I remember
  938. 33:20in particular, well since you asked me
  939. 33:23the question, I remember in particular
  940. 33:25one...it's crazy, it's, it's a
  941. 33:27childhood memory, but one, a car ride
  942. 33:29at night and I remember that I was in
  943. 33:31the back of the car, I was little, I
  944. 33:33think I was maybe 5 or 6 years old. Old
  945. 33:37enough for me to remember it and I
  946. 33:39remember that it was pitch black and we
  947. 33:40were driving through a forest with my
  948. 33:42parents and I clearly remember seeing
  949. 33:44the moon, you know, in the sky and we
  950. 33:45were in a forest and it was very pretty
  951. 33:47. We saw the moon, you know, appearing
  952. 33:49and disappearing between the treetops.
  953. 33:51Tac, tac, tac, tac. H
  954. 33:54And in fact, at that moment, watching
  955. 33:55that, I was seized by a kind of panic
  956. 33:57fear and I asked myself, but when we
  957. 33:58die, how long is it for? What is
  958. 34:03eternity? And very early on, I had this
  959. 34:06idea, but do we continue to live when
  960. 34:08we are dead? It is, and so I'm going to
  961. 34:12speed up, sorry, I'm going to try not
  962. 34:14to dwell on my memories. So for me, the
  963. 34:17soul has always been the idea that
  964. 34:18there is something deeper within us
  965. 34:20that exists beyond this time, this time
  966. 34:21of human life. We are, we die, it's
  967. 34:24absurd and would be cruel. We are, we
  968. 34:27die, end of game, bye. Maybe. But, uh,
  969. 34:31for me, the relationship to the soul is
  970. 34:33all these extrasensory perceptions that
  971. 34:36connect us with something greater than
  972. 34:38ourselves, without losing touch with
  973. 34:40reality.
  974. 34:43So, I kind of lost track of your
  975. 34:44question. I apologize, I don't remember
  976. 34:46what you wanted me to tell you.
  977. 34:47No, no, it's how did you reconnect with
  978. 34:49this idea? And now, it's very clear.
  979. 34:50Now, I'd like to understand a little
  980. 34:52better how it happens and what your
  981. 34:53understanding of it is today.
  982. 34:55You were talking about death. What
  983. 34:57exactly is your understanding of what
  984. 34:58happens when we die? What happens when
  985. 35:02we die?
  986. 35:02Yeah. Well, yeah, thank you for putting
  987. 35:04me back on track. But so, and the
  988. 35:06sequence is good. Well, actually today,
  989. 35:08over the years, you know, it's not
  990. 35:09there today, it's already been several
  991. 35:10years. But then I tried to delve deeper
  992. 35:13into this question, and as I told you,
  993. 35:15there was dowsing when I was 18. This
  994. 35:17lady there put the pendulum in my hands
  995. 35:19. So I dug deeper, I searched in many
  996. 35:21different traditions. And for me today,
  997. 35:25if you like, the soul is a plane of
  998. 35:28consciousness. It's, uh, I like to use
  999. 35:33concrete metaphors. The soul would be a
  1000. 35:37bit like the pilot that we are, a pilot
  1001. 35:39who at the moment of incarnation comes
  1002. 35:41into his vehicle of incarnation, you
  1003. 35:43know. The body, the ego, the
  1004. 35:45personality, you know, so the physical
  1005. 35:48body, the emotional body, the mental
  1006. 35:50body are also tools, a bit like a
  1007. 35:52diving suit for our soul, they are
  1008. 35:54tools to go and apprehend reality.
  1009. 35:57There you have it, I have a physical
  1010. 35:58body that allows me to have sensations,
  1011. 36:00I have an emotional body that allows me
  1012. 36:02to feel, and then I have a mental body
  1013. 36:03that allows me to communicate, to speak
  1014. 36:05, to exchange. All of that is material
  1015. 36:07function, I almost want to say. But the
  1016. 36:10soul, deep down, is really the pilot
  1017. 36:11who says," OK, we have a good tool here
  1018. 36:13, but what do we do with it? What is
  1019. 36:15the incarnation project? "So we'll live
  1020. 36:17our lives as men, women. I wish this
  1021. 36:21for everyone, for as long as possible,
  1022. 36:23in good health of course. But that is
  1023. 36:25not always the case, because precisely
  1024. 36:27in what we call awakening, there are
  1025. 36:29moments of conflict between our soul,
  1026. 36:32which carries a project, a project of
  1027. 36:34evolution, a project of manifestation,
  1028. 36:36and then our personality, our ego,
  1029. 36:39which sometimes has another project.
  1030. 36:42You see, it's a bit like this duality
  1031. 36:43between succeeding in life or
  1032. 36:46succeeding in one's life. And I think
  1033. 36:51that Mel, succeeding in life, it's not
  1034. 36:52that he's not interested, it's that
  1035. 36:54it's not in his nature, it's not his
  1036. 36:55plan. So, so much the better and I wish
  1037. 36:58everyone to succeed in life, that is to
  1038. 37:00say to have good material conditions,
  1039. 37:02to ensure security and to be able to
  1040. 37:03enjoy a little of the beautiful things
  1041. 37:05in life. Success in life is rather
  1042. 37:08about being in harmony with one's soul
  1043. 37:10and following one's destiny. And I
  1044. 37:12think that the soul, indeed...you asked
  1045. 37:13me what happens after death? I think
  1046. 37:16that the soul has a form of continuity,
  1047. 37:19this more ethereal, more abstract,
  1048. 37:21therefore spiritual part of life that
  1049. 37:23doesn't stop with the body, that
  1050. 37:26doesn't stop with matter, right? Let's
  1051. 37:29remember that the spirit is matter at
  1052. 37:31its highest vibrational rate and vice
  1053. 37:32versa. So when we die, well, I would
  1054. 37:34say that it's simply the vital
  1055. 37:36functions that cease. The vehicle has
  1056. 37:38reached exhaustion, but the breath,
  1057. 37:40well, the words have a meaning here.
  1058. 37:43The soul is anima, so that's what
  1059. 37:45animates me. And the breath, pneuma, is
  1060. 37:47what makes the spirit. Well, this
  1061. 37:50breath, when we take our last breath,
  1062. 37:52the breath continues to exist but in
  1063. 37:54another form. It returns to its source,
  1064. 37:56you could say.
  1065. 37:58So I'm quite, uh, I'm quite at peace
  1066. 38:00with the idea of death. Well, I don't
  1067. 38:02see it as a tragedy, or as, uh,
  1068. 38:05something to be taken lightly. I think
  1069. 38:08that we should honor our life and live
  1070. 38:10it as dignified as possible, telling
  1071. 38:11ourselves that there will be an end,
  1072. 38:13and there is an end to everything. that
  1073. 38:15because there is an end, well, it still
  1074. 38:17commands us to live as best we can to
  1075. 38:19fulfill our destiny, because we have a
  1076. 38:21limited time here.
  1077. 38:23And it would be stupid to say to
  1078. 38:24ourselves," Yeah, but since I'm
  1079. 38:25immortal and I have a soul, okay, it
  1080. 38:26doesn't matter, I'll figure it out in
  1081. 38:27the next incarnation. "Wait, we don't
  1082. 38:29know, these are theories. I say let's
  1083. 38:31do what we can here and now. You see,
  1084. 38:35you're
  1085. 38:36talking about destiny. One of the
  1086. 38:39questions that really bothered me when
  1087. 38:42I started learning about spirituality,
  1088. 38:44metaphysics and so on, was the notion
  1089. 38:46of conflict between, well, the apparent
  1090. 38:48conflict between destiny and free will.
  1091. 38:51You see, what part of what happens to
  1092. 38:53us is part of destiny or is it? And so
  1093. 38:56if everything is our destiny, to what
  1094. 38:58extent do we have free will? You see,
  1095. 39:01another dimension comes in. It's often
  1096. 39:04said in these plans, well, time doesn't
  1097. 39:05exist as we know it here, that
  1098. 39:06everything exists in the here and now,
  1099. 39:07so everything is already written in
  1100. 39:09quotation marks. And that also
  1101. 39:11reinforces this idea of conflict
  1102. 39:12between destiny and Free will. How do
  1103. 39:14you understand this today? What is the
  1104. 39:17soul? When we talk about life mission
  1105. 39:18and destiny, what does the soul
  1106. 39:20choose before incarnation?
  1107. 39:24Yeah, those are good questions, Remy,
  1108. 39:25thank you. It's very interesting. It
  1109. 39:27allows me to talk about things that I
  1110. 39:28also like. So yes, destiny and/or free
  1111. 39:32will. So yes, if there is a destiny,
  1112. 39:35and I admit that this question is very
  1113. 39:37annoying because when we say destiny,
  1114. 39:38we are somewhat predefined. So
  1115. 39:43ultimately, there would be a grid, we
  1116. 39:45are conditioned to experience certain
  1117. 39:46events because there would be a purpose
  1118. 39:48and that destiny wants to bring us
  1119. 39:49there. You see, it's the idea that we
  1120. 39:51would ultimately be a pawn. Not a very
  1121. 39:53nice way of looking at things, huh, but
  1122. 39:54there you have it. And then, opposite
  1123. 39:57to that or in contrast to that, there
  1124. 39:59is free will or the idea that man is
  1125. 40:01his own being, How to say, man is on
  1126. 40:03the scale of God: he can do anything,
  1127. 40:05he is the one who chooses his destiny,
  1128. 40:08nothing is conditioned. And then there
  1129. 40:11is another extreme which is, I find,
  1130. 40:12just as dangerous, which would be to
  1131. 40:13say to oneself," Well, in the end, I
  1132. 40:15can do anything, I can do anything. I
  1133. 40:17have no pre-established destiny. "And
  1134. 40:18you arrive at aberrations, for example,
  1135. 40:20uh, this is just a digression, but I
  1136. 40:22want to say it, aberrations like the
  1137. 40:24law of manifestation, the law of
  1138. 40:26attraction. You can become what you
  1139. 40:29want, you can attract what you want,
  1140. 40:31you can write your destiny. No, in fact
  1141. 40:34, I think that once again, we are at
  1142. 40:36the right balance between the two. So,
  1143. 40:40what is the right balance between
  1144. 40:41destiny and free will? It would be to
  1145. 40:44consider that we are indeed carrying
  1146. 40:46out a project, you see, a little like
  1147. 40:47entrepreneurs. Again, I'm not going to
  1148. 40:51make friends, the word entrepreneur is
  1149. 40:53not nice, but it means that we come
  1150. 40:54into incarnation with a soul mission,
  1151. 40:56if you like. There is a project after
  1152. 40:58all. So if we carry out a project, it
  1153. 41:01means that like an architect, we have a
  1154. 41:03vision, we have specifications with
  1155. 41:05that, during this life, if I come, it's
  1156. 41:07because that there are still goals.
  1157. 41:09They could be karmic goals of repair.
  1158. 41:12They could be goals of evolution in
  1159. 41:14certain aspects or I don't know, it
  1160. 41:16could be different for everyone. So
  1161. 41:19there is still a roadmap. Now,
  1162. 41:21fortunately, this roadmap is still
  1163. 41:25malleable. You see, that's the idea of
  1164. 41:27GPS. You have a starting point, an end
  1165. 41:29point. Either you take the highway and
  1166. 41:32you'll pay and you'll burn gas but
  1167. 41:34you'll go faster. But you can also have
  1168. 41:36much more serious accidents because at
  1169. 41:38130 you'll hit harder. Or you can say,
  1170. 41:40hey, I'm going to take small roads,
  1171. 41:42it'll be a little longer but it'll be
  1172. 41:44more...So the idea is that free will is
  1173. 41:46simply the way you're going to react to
  1174. 41:48the events in your life.
  1175. 41:50Hm.
  1176. 41:51You see this morning, look at my free
  1177. 41:53will this morning, it was to put on a
  1178. 41:55blue shirt but I wasn't going to show
  1179. 41:57up naked in front of you, Remy, we
  1180. 41:59agree. Do
  1181. 42:00you see what I mean? There's free will,
  1182. 42:02it's always there, it's not one or the
  1183. 42:05other. It can be one or the other. And
  1184. 42:07I've played video games quite a bit.
  1185. 42:11One logic that I've heard that really
  1186. 42:12resonated with me is that when you play
  1187. 42:14a video game, you're going to go
  1188. 42:15through a few big bosses, because
  1189. 42:16that's the experience of the video game
  1190. 42:18that you wanted to play.
  1191. 42:21But that also includes the fact that
  1192. 42:23you can choose to go left, right, etc.,
  1193. 42:24even if it's infinite, you're still
  1194. 42:26going to go through this big boss in
  1195. 42:27the middle and you're going to learn a
  1196. 42:29lot of things as you go.
  1197. 42:31Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Anyway
  1198. 42:33, we know that there's a real analogy
  1199. 42:34with video games. The fact of being
  1200. 42:36thrown into a virtual world and where
  1201. 42:37you animate a character, video games
  1202. 42:39are very interesting. This point of
  1203. 42:41view where
  1204. 42:42you talk about life missions and life
  1205. 42:44projects. What is the purpose for you?
  1206. 42:47You see, why does the NA decide to
  1207. 42:48incarnate to have a life project? Hm,
  1208. 42:51well, I don't have the answer to that.
  1209. 42:55I have ideas, interpretations because
  1210. 42:57here you really touch on the million
  1211. 42:59dollar question, huh? It's the mystery
  1212. 43:01of mysteries. Why, why life? Why the
  1213. 43:04soul? Why the spirit? How does it work?
  1214. 43:08I'm always very cautious about it
  1215. 43:10because I especially don't want to, you
  1216. 43:12know, introduce myself to people by
  1217. 43:14saying:" Look, I know because I've
  1218. 43:16studied this and that or because I have
  1219. 43:18such a strong inner conviction that
  1220. 43:20this is reality. "Well, let us say that
  1221. 43:22the idea I have is one which straddles
  1222. 43:25a few different traditions, It is the
  1223. 43:27idea that there is indeed an
  1224. 43:29intelligence that surpasses us by a
  1225. 43:32very significant margin. Réi, I have
  1226. 43:34the impression that sometimes with our
  1227. 43:36brains, we are still very far from
  1228. 43:38understanding everything. And so, one
  1229. 43:40way I have of interpreting this whole
  1230. 43:43world, this Earth system, this system
  1231. 43:46of mind, of the soul, is to say that
  1232. 43:49there would be an intelligent, loving
  1233. 43:52source, with a will of its own and that
  1234. 43:55from this source emanates breaths of
  1235. 44:00life, you see, projections of
  1236. 44:02themselves. The word existence
  1237. 44:04interests me in this, you see, to
  1238. 44:05answer your question. Because when we
  1239. 44:08come to exist, to exist, you see, in
  1240. 44:09fact, I'm stammering because I'm
  1241. 44:11thinking about exit stance. When we
  1242. 44:13come into existence, it means we are in
  1243. 44:16exit stance. We stand outside of
  1244. 44:18something. I exist, so I have left
  1245. 44:22something. And that's where you There
  1246. 44:24are people who tell you, and I like
  1247. 44:25this idea, that birth is a form of
  1248. 44:26death. In fact, we die in a state of
  1249. 44:30absoluteness. The source, God, the
  1250. 44:33universe, the cosmos; who knows? So
  1251. 44:36what is all this, in the end? Well,
  1252. 44:38maybe it's saying," Yes, we come into
  1253. 44:40incarnation to enter a system, I don't
  1254. 44:46have another word, a matrix. "I know
  1255. 44:48that the word matrix is fashionable.
  1256. 44:49I've even talked about it myself
  1257. 44:50sometimes in my videos. Matrix, meaning
  1258. 44:53a system, right? That's just it, a
  1259. 44:56temporary organization, limited in
  1260. 44:59space and time, but to allow this
  1261. 45:02spirit to experience itself, that is to
  1262. 45:05say, to be creative, right? Remember,
  1263. 45:09the spirit that, in matter, comes to
  1264. 45:11densify its presence. So, we create, we
  1265. 45:15create forms, we create words, we
  1266. 45:17create energies. And so the idea is
  1267. 45:20very good, and what are these creations
  1268. 45:22for? Perhaps they serve this famous
  1269. 45:25incarnation project, this life mission
  1270. 45:26which is either to bring something to
  1271. 45:31the collective, or to bring an idea or
  1272. 45:34a project to life, perhaps to manifest
  1273. 45:38beauty, perhaps goodness, or to repair.
  1274. 45:42You see, there are people who really
  1275. 45:43come in this life, you see it, I see it
  1276. 45:44in consultations and I think that many
  1277. 45:46of the people who listen to us, there
  1278. 45:47are people who really come to repair in
  1279. 45:48this life. It's not easy. You have the
  1280. 45:51impression that they are going through
  1281. 45:52one difficulty after another. But maybe
  1282. 45:54there is an act of repair. Then there
  1283. 45:56are others, we say to ourselves,",
  1284. 45:57but these people, it's not possible,
  1285. 45:58these people are crazy. They're all
  1286. 46:00smiles. "Yes, it's also perhaps a young
  1287. 46:02soul who comes to experiment, who is a
  1288. 46:04bit like a child discovering life. It's
  1289. 46:07fun, it's easy. I think we shouldn't
  1290. 46:10make any definitive judgments about it
  1291. 46:12and tell ourselves that this is life
  1292. 46:14experiencing itself. When it stops,
  1293. 46:17where do we go? Where do we go back to?
  1294. 46:19So, there's this idea that you take
  1295. 46:21stock, that you're going to find your
  1296. 46:23memories and say to yourself:" Okay,
  1297. 46:25, yeah, as Johan in this life, I
  1298. 46:27wasn't good at it, maybe I'll have to
  1299. 46:29go back to correct that or improve that
  1300. 46:31. "It's a vision. Or to say to yourself
  1301. 46:33, no, there's not even the idea of
  1302. 46:34karma and punitive reincarnation to
  1303. 46:36make amends, it's just that you've had
  1304. 46:38an experience, do you need to go back
  1305. 46:40to this system to continue to evolve? I
  1306. 46:43don't know, I don't have a definitive
  1307. 46:44answer to that.
  1308. 46:46Hm. Does that feed into your question a
  1309. 46:49little bit? That's super interesting.
  1310. 46:52That's super interesting. It ties in
  1311. 46:53with a lot of the testimonies from
  1312. 46:55other people in the podcast. Uh, I
  1313. 46:57really liked the fact that you said,"
  1314. 46:59Well, I don't know. I think it's
  1315. 47:01important to distinguish between what
  1316. 47:03comes from lived experience and what
  1317. 47:05has been gathered from a whole bunch of
  1318. 47:07learning. Uh, because I think there are
  1319. 47:09people who perhaps tend to put
  1320. 47:11everything in the same basket and it
  1321. 47:13can get complicated.
  1322. 47:14Yeah, possibly. You talk in your videos
  1323. 47:17, well I came across one of your videos
  1324. 47:19that perhaps talks about the limits and
  1325. 47:21excesses of current spirituality.
  1326. 47:23Uh, maybe gradually, well,
  1327. 47:26we still have a little time together,
  1328. 47:27but could you tell us about it? What
  1329. 47:28are the excesses that you see with the
  1330. 47:31people you work with and more generally
  1331. 47:33in the collective?
  1332. 47:36Yeah, thank you for asking the question
  1333. 47:38because it's a subject that's close to
  1334. 47:39my heart. Why? Because these are things
  1335. 47:41that I rarely talk about in my videos.
  1336. 47:43For me, I don't really like telling my
  1337. 47:45story, but it turns out that I did, you
  1338. 47:47see, in these, in these quests that I
  1339. 47:49had for, for knowledge, well like
  1340. 47:51everyone else, like everyone else, I
  1341. 47:54went through different groups, I met
  1342. 47:56people and, very quickly in my life,
  1343. 47:58very quickly, you know, from the age of
  1344. 48:0018, I came across figures in the
  1345. 48:02so-called spiritual world, so
  1346. 48:04therapists, energy healers, speakers.
  1347. 48:07Well, in short, I came across what are
  1348. 48:09really called guru figures, that is to
  1349. 48:11say, people who, based on their
  1350. 48:13knowledge, a certain power—because
  1351. 48:15there are people who really have power,
  1352. 48:18that is to say who really have a gift,
  1353. 48:20a gift in magnetism, a gift in
  1354. 48:22clairvoyance, a gift—but who, based
  1355. 48:24on what they have, claim to be an
  1356. 48:26authority over others. So I come back
  1357. 48:29to your question, you know. So I was
  1358. 48:31putting this into practice to show that
  1359. 48:33what I am talking about is not just
  1360. 48:34some idle whim. It's not something I
  1361. 48:36fantasize about outside. It's things
  1362. 48:38that I've experienced and that
  1363. 48:39unfortunately I continue to see
  1364. 48:41constantly in my consultations. I have
  1365. 48:43a lot of people who come to me and say,
  1366. 48:46"Well, yeah, I realized that I had
  1367. 48:47actually fallen into a sect or that
  1368. 48:49this guy was a real guru who was
  1369. 48:51manipulative." And there are three
  1370. 48:53things that systematically come up in
  1371. 48:54the excesses. Well, three things,
  1372. 48:56that's how I call them. The excesses
  1373. 48:59are always about money, sex, and power.
  1374. 49:04That is to say, the ego of people who
  1375. 49:06today are involved in spirituality,
  1376. 49:08energy, personal development, call it
  1377. 49:11what you want, but it's this category
  1378. 49:13of activity, an ego that is completely
  1379. 49:16left to its own devices and has lost
  1380. 49:18touch with reality. that is to say,
  1381. 49:20with respect for others, with their own
  1382. 49:22limits, and well, they think that they
  1383. 49:24can allow themselves to have authority
  1384. 49:25over others. And that involves
  1385. 49:28manipulating people in terms of what is
  1386. 49:31the simplest thing, namely their
  1387. 49:33relationship to money. So here, we see
  1388. 49:37things that are completely inconsistent
  1389. 49:39with helping others by selling formulas
  1390. 49:41at exorbitant prices. Of course, there
  1391. 49:45are abuses related to sex because, it
  1392. 49:47is important to understand that, in
  1393. 49:49fact, these people are heated, are
  1394. 49:51heated to the brim with their lower
  1395. 49:53chakras: root chakra, sacral chakra,
  1396. 49:55solar plexus chakra, which are the
  1397. 49:57anchor points of the personality and
  1398. 50:00the ego, that is to say: security,
  1399. 50:02pleasure, power, right? These are the
  1400. 50:04lower chakras. And so the abuses that I
  1401. 50:06see are often related to their
  1402. 50:07relationship to sex. So, you You see
  1403. 50:10internship supervisors, therapists who
  1404. 50:12actually send photos of themselves,
  1405. 50:14well, I won't be vulgar, but basically
  1406. 50:16they try to seduce their, uh,
  1407. 50:17participants and it works. It's a
  1408. 50:20classic of the genre. Then there is
  1409. 50:22that phenomenon, I tell you, of holding
  1410. 50:23power. I know because I'm overshadowed,
  1411. 50:26or I channel the sea, I channel
  1412. 50:28Saint-Germain, I channel I don't know
  1413. 50:31what, or I know because I've done 10,
  1414. 50:3320, 30 years of yoga, stuff, stuff, and
  1415. 50:36you, you don't know, so I'm the one
  1416. 50:38who's going to tell you. So the
  1417. 50:41excesses are there and, uh,
  1418. 50:42unfortunately, and you see it's
  1419. 50:44something that's in the air because
  1420. 50:46there was the film there, I forgot the
  1421. 50:48name of the director, the actor was
  1422. 50:49Pierre Ninet, the guru that everyone
  1423. 50:51has spoken. What's annoying about this
  1424. 50:56is that, unfortunately, these people do
  1425. 50:58a lot of harm to the profession, I want
  1426. 51:00to say, because as a result, it leads
  1427. 51:02to great mistrust among a certain
  1428. 51:04category of people and the public in
  1429. 51:06general with the phenomenon of seeking
  1430. 51:08advice, support from people who have
  1431. 51:10skills in energy or whatever. And so,
  1432. 51:14we end up with the State itself, uh,
  1433. 51:16wanting to regulate practices in the
  1434. 51:19name of protecting individuals because
  1435. 51:21of these gurus. Yeah, but it guys,
  1436. 51:25start by treating yourself and, uh,
  1437. 51:27stop trying to pull the wool over your
  1438. 51:29eyes by manipulating others to show how
  1439. 51:31strong you are.
  1440. 51:32So that's still very active Réy.
  1441. 51:34That's still very much true. A quick
  1442. 51:36aside
  1443. 51:36before continuing. I've been a GAA
  1444. 51:38subscriber for 2 years now. YouTube is
  1445. 51:40great, it's my prediction platform, but
  1446. 51:42we often find ourselves having to watch
  1447. 51:43hours and hours of interviews to find
  1448. 51:45the answer we're looking for. GAA,
  1449. 51:47unlike YouTube, is organized into
  1450. 51:48series and episodes that really work as
  1451. 51:50a coherent whole, which allows you to
  1452. 51:51get straight to the point and save a
  1453. 51:53lot of time. I am also displaying on
  1454. 51:55screen the series that had the biggest
  1455. 51:56impact on my own journey and that have,
  1456. 51:57in particular, inspired this podcast.
  1457. 51:59I'm super happy, I sent them a quick
  1458. 52:01email and they agreed to become a
  1459. 52:02partner of the channel. So if you're
  1460. 52:04ever intrigued, you have a week to
  1461. 52:05discover GA for free via the link in
  1462. 52:07the description. You can always watch a
  1463. 52:09season on the topic that speaks to you
  1464. 52:10the most and then cancel. To be honest,
  1465. 52:12that's what I did. I ended up renewing
  1466. 52:14the subscription. But anyway, I
  1467. 52:15recommend you go check it out, take a
  1468. 52:17quick look. It's really super
  1469. 52:18interesting. Let's get back to it. I
  1470. 52:20think I'm curious to have your
  1471. 52:21perspective on how people can protect
  1472. 52:23themselves from it. I think it's just
  1473. 52:25Being aware that this can exist. I
  1474. 52:27think that one of the risks, and this
  1475. 52:29is what I see with the Gru documentary
  1476. 52:31in particular, is that we are throwing
  1477. 52:33the baby out with the bathwater and I
  1478. 52:35think that there is perhaps also a
  1479. 52:36desire to marginalize all these
  1480. 52:38practices because I think that they can
  1481. 52:39also be liberating. Typically, I was in
  1482. 52:43the South last week and I saw a short
  1483. 52:46video that said, "A retreat center was
  1484. 52:49closed for sectarian practices while it
  1485. 52:51was holding small ceremonies." Well,
  1486. 52:55they also like to exaggerate. So I
  1487. 52:58think it's also important to avoid
  1488. 53:00falling into fear, which is created and
  1489. 53:02increased by all these systems. But
  1490. 53:05it's true that being aware of the risk
  1491. 53:06can help. And what I advocate, or at
  1492. 53:09least what I practice for myself, is
  1493. 53:12to use multiple sources. You see, as
  1494. 53:16soon as we start from one, as soon as
  1495. 53:18we get into a position where there's an
  1496. 53:20elected official who has all the
  1497. 53:21information, well, then the abuses
  1498. 53:23start to occur. But from the moment we
  1499. 53:27see that there are multiple people who
  1500. 53:29are connected, that the information can
  1501. 53:31be diverse and that we can have a whole
  1502. 53:33bunch of different sources that will
  1503. 53:35increase and enrich our knowledge, it
  1504. 53:37can also reduce the risk. And that's
  1505. 53:39particularly why I started this podcast
  1506. 53:41, because there are a whole bunch of
  1507. 53:42people who have things, a whole bunch
  1508. 53:43of There are lots of really interesting
  1509. 53:45things to share and I think that
  1510. 53:47highlighting these people more can help
  1511. 53:49.
  1512. 53:51Uh, you did well. So yeah, so your
  1513. 53:53question was actually how to protect
  1514. 53:54yourself from this without throwing the
  1515. 53:56baby out with the bathwater. That's
  1516. 53:58kind of it, I understand the Yeah. Well
  1517. 54:00, you know, it's, it's, I want to say,
  1518. 54:03it's critical common sense. Uh, and I
  1519. 54:06use the word critical on purpose
  1520. 54:08because precisely in the spiritual
  1521. 54:10community or people on the path or in
  1522. 54:12awakening, we don't like the mind. We
  1523. 54:14don't like the mind, we don't like the
  1524. 54:16ego, we don't like the intellect too
  1525. 54:18much and we always tend, you know, to
  1526. 54:21talk about love, kindness, feelings. I
  1527. 54:24understand and I also subscribe to that
  1528. 54:26vision. But I think that the first
  1529. 54:29safeguard is to never lose your common
  1530. 54:31sense and your judgment. That is to say
  1531. 54:35, am I going to hand over my authority
  1532. 54:38to a third person who, even if they are
  1533. 54:40a master of I don't know what or a
  1534. 54:42certified practitioner of I don't know
  1535. 54:45what, is going to tell me how I should
  1536. 54:47eat, how I should meditate, how I
  1537. 54:49should make love, how I should invest
  1538. 54:52my money, how I should pray? Well, you
  1539. 54:55see, OK, I'm going to get some
  1540. 54:57information and then I'm going to see
  1541. 54:59for myself if it suits me because we
  1542. 55:01are never wired the same way as Peter,
  1543. 55:03Paul, James, Julie, Mary, etc. So there
  1544. 55:06is no one rule for everyone. And what I
  1545. 55:09often say, you see, is formulas that
  1546. 55:11stick in your mind: if you are not
  1547. 55:12aware of your energies, well others
  1548. 55:14will become aware of them in your place
  1549. 55:16and without you knowing it. That means
  1550. 55:20know yourself. It is absolutely
  1551. 55:22necessary and you don't need to do
  1552. 55:23courses or go see someone. So we can
  1553. 55:26also go When you see someone, be
  1554. 55:27careful, but you first have to learn to
  1555. 55:29recognize their emotional states, to
  1556. 55:31know their psyche. What is my mind made
  1557. 55:34of, what is my emotions made of, what
  1558. 55:36makes me react, what are my fears?
  1559. 55:39Because when you go to see someone and
  1560. 55:41you're not aware of it, the people
  1561. 55:43you're talking to, and it all depends
  1562. 55:44on whether they're healthy and aligned
  1563. 55:46—and there are plenty of them,
  1564. 55:48fortunately, let's be clear, Réi,
  1565. 55:49there are a lot of good people—but
  1566. 55:51there are also more twisted people who
  1567. 55:53will very quickly detect your flaws and
  1568. 55:56, uh, and if you're not aware of your
  1569. 55:58flaws, well, they'll use them, press on
  1570. 56:00them, and that will make you enter into
  1571. 56:03a form of dependency. Dependency on
  1572. 56:05therapists, dependency on the
  1573. 56:06internship supervisors, dependency on
  1574. 56:08the speaker, the energy healer, and so
  1575. 56:10on. So being self-aware means knowing
  1576. 56:12yourself. And then, I would say, uh,
  1577. 56:16the last thing that seems very
  1578. 56:18important to me, It's, uh, perhaps you
  1579. 56:20should also be wary of all these very
  1580. 56:22flattering forms of spirituality; that
  1581. 56:25is to say, uh, you know, when I say
  1582. 56:27flattering, it's speeches that tend to
  1583. 56:29say: "You are, you are divine, you are
  1584. 56:31much stronger than you think, but you
  1585. 56:34have to activate your potential." uh,
  1586. 56:39you have to be in unconditional love,
  1587. 56:41uh, you have to be in connection with
  1588. 56:43the divine. There's always this idea, I
  1589. 56:47say be careful because here we can
  1590. 56:49quickly lose touch with reality, you
  1591. 56:51see, in this very flattering vision of
  1592. 56:53spirituality. That's what I call the
  1593. 56:55slightly watered-down New Age. It's
  1594. 56:58good, it's good to open yourself up to
  1595. 56:59this possibility, but always come back
  1596. 57:01to the concrete. What does it bring me
  1597. 57:03in concrete terms in my life? Does it
  1598. 57:05help me live better? Knowing that let's
  1599. 57:07not forget Réy, we are human beings
  1600. 57:09made of flesh. Does it help you take
  1601. 57:12good care of your children? Perhaps
  1602. 57:15even yourself, your children? Does it
  1603. 57:17help you pay your bills? Does it help
  1604. 57:19you have security in your daily life?
  1605. 57:21Or are you completely losing touch with
  1606. 57:23reality and going into a delirium where
  1607. 57:26, you see, you have denied matter
  1608. 57:28because spirituality or your spiritual
  1609. 57:30guide told you that yeah no, forget
  1610. 57:32about matter, it's all rotten, it's
  1611. 57:34just ego. So I would say always have
  1612. 57:39this double perspective and don't be
  1613. 57:41dismissive of concrete things.
  1614. 57:44Spirituality really makes sense when it
  1615. 57:46is embodied in the little things of
  1616. 57:47everyday life. H listen, thank you for
  1617. 57:50that, super interesting. You talked
  1618. 57:54about knowing yourself and that's
  1619. 57:56something I observe around me, people
  1620. 57:58who are starting personal development,
  1621. 58:00who are starting to work on
  1622. 58:02spirituality, who are perhaps
  1623. 58:03discovering repetitive patterns and yet
  1624. 58:05they can't seem to get out of them. Uh,
  1625. 58:08I imagine that you see this sometimes
  1626. 58:10with the people you work with.
  1627. 58:12I don't know how much we can generalize
  1628. 58:14this. I think it's very much a
  1629. 58:16case-by-case basis for specific issues.
  1630. 58:19I think there are perhaps themes that
  1631. 58:20come up quite often.
  1632. 58:21Yeah. What advice do you have to give
  1633. 58:24to these people who may have put their
  1634. 58:26finger on what's wrong but who continue
  1635. 58:28to fall back into the same patterns?
  1636. 58:31And few, and who perhaps have done tens
  1637. 58:33of thousands of courses, who have read
  1638. 58:34everything, all the books that exist,
  1639. 58:36who continue to consume information: so
  1640. 58:38there is, there is an awareness and an
  1641. 58:40understanding that has been made, or
  1642. 58:42maybe not exactly, but in their
  1643. 58:43experience, there hasn't been a huge
  1644. 58:45amount of change. That's another very
  1645. 58:49good question, Réy. There are two
  1646. 58:51things that come to mind here, uh, I'm
  1647. 58:52going to try not to lose my thread. The
  1648. 58:55first thing I want to say because it's
  1649. 58:57a message Also important to get across
  1650. 58:58in connection with your question is to
  1651. 59:00never forget that the first form of
  1652. 59:02violence, the first form of violence in
  1653. 59:04this world, is a violent world. We
  1654. 59:07won't talk politics here, Ri; it's not
  1655. 59:08the point, but it's a violent world.
  1656. 59:10But the first form of violence is the
  1657. 59:12violence we inflict on ourselves,
  1658. 59:15listen carefully by superimposing what
  1659. 59:17should be on what is. I repeat, when we
  1660. 59:21superimpose what should be on what is,
  1661. 59:23we inflict a form of violence on
  1662. 59:25ourselves. For example, oh my, I am not
  1663. 59:30yet loving enough, or I am not awake
  1664. 59:33enough, or I am not sufficiently in my
  1665. 59:35heart, or connected in the way that I
  1666. 59:37perhaps should be. I need to become
  1667. 59:40more of this at that moment.
  1668. 59:43Yeah. Or I don't have enough money or I
  1669. 59:45don't have the love I want, phew. Yeah.
  1670. 59:48And thank you, you're right. You see,
  1671. 59:50you know, you bring it back to
  1672. 59:51something much more concrete. Yeah, I
  1673. 59:52not enough money, I'm not successful
  1674. 59:54enough, or whatever. So, I'm already
  1675. 59:57creating a form of internal conflict
  1676. 1:00:00with the idea that by undertaking an
  1677. 1:00:02external quest for permanent
  1678. 1:00:04improvement, I'm going to change what
  1679. 1:00:07is by moving towards what should be,
  1680. 1:00:09that is to say, the best version of
  1681. 1:00:12myself. You know, this is a gimmick
  1682. 1:00:14that comes up a lot these days. Become
  1683. 1:00:16the best version of yourself. Uh, how
  1684. 1:00:18do you become the best version of
  1685. 1:00:19yourself? Be careful, it's very
  1686. 1:00:21dangerous because by starting from this
  1687. 1:00:23assumption, you define that what you
  1688. 1:00:25are at the moment, with your mistakes,
  1689. 1:00:27your wounds, your suffering, your
  1690. 1:00:28blockages, you're not good enough. So,
  1691. 1:00:31I'm not saying that improving yourself
  1692. 1:00:32in life is not a virtue. I'm saying
  1693. 1:00:35that maybe you can start by letting go
  1694. 1:00:37of the fact that life is by definition
  1695. 1:00:38imperfect. You see, it's a very Taoist,
  1696. 1:00:42very Zen thing to tell yourself, "I can
  1697. 1:00:44find the Perfection. In imperfection. I
  1698. 1:00:47don't need to be the best version of
  1699. 1:00:48myself. I don't need to be the most
  1700. 1:00:51awakened in the samadi position in
  1701. 1:00:53Nirvana. No, I can be Johann with my
  1702. 1:00:56flaws. It's better to be aware of them,
  1703. 1:00:59it's better not to feed them. But it
  1704. 1:01:01doesn't need to be perfect. You
  1705. 1:01:03understand the idea of the sentence,
  1706. 1:01:04hey, when I said overtaxing, I put a
  1707. 1:01:06colossal burden on myself because I
  1708. 1:01:07have to be more spiritual, whereas
  1709. 1:01:09right now I can't take it anymore. And
  1710. 1:01:11so, well,
  1711. 1:01:13you see, I knew I was going to fail. I
  1712. 1:01:16had two ideas. Uh,
  1713. 1:01:18but no, and what I find intriguing, and
  1714. 1:01:20it's true that it's something I
  1715. 1:01:22experience every day, is that infinity
  1716. 1:01:24frees up so much intellectual bandwidth
  1717. 1:01:26. In fact, when we're in it, we don't
  1718. 1:01:29realize it, but once we decide to let
  1719. 1:01:30go and return to the present moment and
  1720. 1:01:32be OK with what's happening in the
  1721. 1:01:33present moment, it frees up a
  1722. 1:01:34phenomenal amount of energy and mental
  1723. 1:01:36load. And then we just have to channel
  1724. 1:01:39that mental load into something that's
  1725. 1:01:42more productive and inferior. That way,
  1726. 1:01:45we'll get in the direction we want to
  1727. 1:01:46go much faster than if we spend our
  1728. 1:01:48time stuck in loops telling ourselves,"
  1729. 1:01:50We're not there yet, we're not there
  1730. 1:01:51yet, we're not there yet. "In fact,
  1731. 1:01:53that's a counterproductive mental load.
  1732. 1:01:56Exactly. And I thank you because when I
  1733. 1:01:58say the word mental load, I completely
  1734. 1:01:59agree with what you just said. I agree
  1735. 1:02:01with what you're saying. Mental load,
  1736. 1:02:04that's what your question was. The
  1737. 1:02:06second thing for people, you see, who
  1738. 1:02:08are in repetitive patterns, they have
  1739. 1:02:10done x training, x protocol and it
  1740. 1:02:11doesn't work. Uh, I would tell them to
  1741. 1:02:15perhaps explore this avenue because
  1742. 1:02:17it's work that I do in consultation, so
  1743. 1:02:19I have explored it myself. I'm not
  1744. 1:02:21saying that it works every time, but
  1745. 1:02:23it's to understand that our mind is a
  1746. 1:02:26bit like software but with several, uh,
  1747. 1:02:28with several programs and there is the
  1748. 1:02:30whole subconscious part. The
  1749. 1:02:33subconscious part that is very active
  1750. 1:02:35in human beings. And the subconscious
  1751. 1:02:37is everything that manages our
  1752. 1:02:39conditioned reflexes. Uh, basically,
  1753. 1:02:41everything that manages our survival if
  1754. 1:02:42you like. Here, you see, for example, I
  1755. 1:02:44don't need to think about the fact that
  1756. 1:02:46I breathe, that I blink, that well, we
  1757. 1:02:47are in the neurovegetative functions,
  1758. 1:02:49right? But the subconscious is also
  1759. 1:02:52when I perceive danger outside, I will
  1760. 1:02:55have automatic reactions. The
  1761. 1:02:58subconscious is therefore all the
  1762. 1:03:00conditioning within us linked to
  1763. 1:03:02childhood, our education, family
  1764. 1:03:04beliefs, the beliefs of a people,
  1765. 1:03:06society, culture; but which are there
  1766. 1:03:08in our, I would say, in the background
  1767. 1:03:11of our conscious part which wants to
  1768. 1:03:13live a fulfilled life, wants to carry
  1769. 1:03:15out a project. Yeah, but that's the
  1770. 1:03:17accelerator pedal. Everyone is capable
  1771. 1:03:19of pressing the accelerator. The thing
  1772. 1:03:21is that not everyone is perhaps aware
  1773. 1:03:23that they are pressing the brake pedal
  1774. 1:03:24at the same time
  1775. 1:03:26because our subconscious is like, oh my
  1776. 1:03:28gosh, yeah. No, no, wait, if I show
  1777. 1:03:30myself, if I speak in public, no, I'm
  1778. 1:03:32too scared. They're going to attack me,
  1779. 1:03:34they're going to criticize me, they're
  1780. 1:03:35going to attack me, I'm going to die.
  1781. 1:03:36That's because your brain has recorded
  1782. 1:03:38that when you were little, you got hit
  1783. 1:03:39by a bullet from your teacher at school
  1784. 1:03:41or because your father or mother told
  1785. 1:03:42you," Shut up, you're making too much
  1786. 1:03:44noise, you're breaking my ears. "So
  1787. 1:03:45that's a silly example, but it's one
  1788. 1:03:48that we often come across in sessions.
  1789. 1:03:50H
  1790. 1:03:51So, I tell people: don't lose sight of
  1791. 1:03:53the fact that if there are things that
  1792. 1:03:55are recurring for you and that you're
  1793. 1:03:57stuck, it's not because you're not
  1794. 1:03:58trying hard enough, it's maybe because
  1795. 1:04:00you didn't see in your rearview mirror
  1796. 1:04:02that there was a blind spot and that
  1797. 1:04:04it's more of an attitude that's
  1798. 1:04:05ingrained like software, you know, like
  1799. 1:04:07a line of code 0 in your subconscious
  1800. 1:04:09software. So there are lots of
  1801. 1:04:11techniques today, thank God, we have a
  1802. 1:04:13lot of techniques like MDR. I use other
  1803. 1:04:16techniques, you know, of
  1804. 1:04:17psycho-emotional release that allow you
  1805. 1:04:19to re-establish, to establish, I would
  1806. 1:04:21say, a state of changing your
  1807. 1:04:22perception and therefore to establish
  1808. 1:04:24another emotional and mental state in
  1809. 1:04:26relation to a direction in your life.
  1810. 1:04:29Hm.
  1811. 1:04:29Okay, well there you have it. You
  1812. 1:04:30shouldn't despair, but it's certainly
  1813. 1:04:31not, you know, by forcing yourself, by
  1814. 1:04:33saying:" I'm going to make even more
  1815. 1:04:34efforts, I'm going to do even more
  1816. 1:04:36internships and even more, even more "
  1817. 1:04:37because then you reach a mental load,
  1818. 1:04:39as you said perfectly, where you're
  1819. 1:04:40overwhelmed with information, you can't
  1820. 1:04:42take it anymore. So well burnout, you
  1821. 1:04:44know, burnout, I've done everything I
  1822. 1:04:45had to do, it's not working, I'm
  1823. 1:04:46exhausted, my body is giving up on me
  1824. 1:04:48and on top of that, I'm having a
  1825. 1:04:49spiritual crisis that I'm going to call
  1826. 1:04:51a dark night because in fact, well,
  1827. 1:04:52I've had enough, you know. I called on
  1828. 1:04:54the angels, I asked the universe to
  1829. 1:04:56send me synchronicities, I followed the
  1830. 1:04:58law of abundance. Holy, nothing
  1831. 1:04:59works. Well, you see, we end up with
  1832. 1:05:01aberrations like that. So,
  1833. 1:05:05I find it really interesting and I
  1834. 1:05:06don't know to what extent it's a
  1835. 1:05:08pattern that matches yours, I have the
  1836. 1:05:09impression that there's this idea of
  1837. 1:05:11belief that impacts thoughts, that
  1838. 1:05:13impacts action. Uh, what I understand
  1839. 1:05:16from you is that there are a whole
  1840. 1:05:18bunch of beliefs that are conscious and
  1841. 1:05:20that we are aware of, but there are a
  1842. 1:05:21whole bunch of beliefs that are
  1843. 1:05:23subconscious: things that we have
  1844. 1:05:25learned implicitly and that
  1845. 1:05:26nevertheless impact the actions that we
  1846. 1:05:28take. And sometimes, well, in fact,
  1847. 1:05:31staying in action and closing the loop
  1848. 1:05:33is precisely because there is this
  1849. 1:05:35limiting belief that we have that will
  1850. 1:05:36influence the way we act in the wrong
  1851. 1:05:38direction. And so, reconnecting with
  1852. 1:05:41this belief, I think that can already
  1853. 1:05:42help. Understanding that there is one
  1854. 1:05:45is already the beginning, sometimes the
  1855. 1:05:47end of the process. And then afterwards
  1856. 1:05:49, there are a whole bunch of tools to
  1857. 1:05:51deconstruct it even more deeply,
  1858. 1:05:52for example. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
  1859. 1:05:54And then at the same time, putting
  1860. 1:05:55ourselves back in the present moment
  1861. 1:05:57and being OK with what is happening to
  1862. 1:05:58free ourselves from the intellectual
  1863. 1:05:59bandwidth and
  1864. 1:06:01and to go for it once we have the right
  1865. 1:06:02direction, to go for it in the
  1866. 1:06:04direction we want. Uh, these seem to me
  1867. 1:06:05to be super interesting tools and paths
  1868. 1:06:07for the people who are watching us in
  1869. 1:06:08any case. And sorry, I, I think we are
  1870. 1:06:12coming to the end. But since you used
  1871. 1:06:15the word, uh, belief, I just wanted to
  1872. 1:06:17say very quickly that, you see, my
  1873. 1:06:19biggest work in recent years, on a
  1874. 1:06:21personal level, not necessarily the
  1875. 1:06:23work that I do with others, but it does
  1876. 1:06:26have an impact on what I do, is to
  1877. 1:06:28really get people to deconstruct,
  1878. 1:06:30deconstruct all these beliefs that,
  1879. 1:06:32since at least the 90s in Europe, in
  1880. 1:06:34France, have traveled the spiritual
  1881. 1:06:36world, the energetic world. So to put
  1882. 1:06:41it quickly, I often call it the new age
  1883. 1:06:43, the new age, because that's what the
  1884. 1:06:45idea of the new age was, with the
  1885. 1:06:46advent of a universal brotherhood, of
  1886. 1:06:48light, of love, of a great world
  1887. 1:06:50religion without God but around the
  1888. 1:06:52value of love. Well, I think we
  1889. 1:06:56shouldn't be afraid to deconstruct this
  1890. 1:06:58, how we deconstruct a religion, not to
  1891. 1:07:01be in neilism, I'm not a neilist, but
  1892. 1:07:03to actually rediscover our own
  1893. 1:07:05intuition, our own essence beyond any
  1894. 1:07:07framework, any belief. You see, and
  1895. 1:07:10I'll end on this and sorry, I was long,
  1896. 1:07:11but I want to say it because these are
  1897. 1:07:13useful things that have served me and I
  1898. 1:07:14know that they will help others.
  1899. 1:07:16There's this magnificent quote,
  1900. 1:07:17magnificent quote from Krishna Mourti.
  1901. 1:07:20Uh, you see, for me, Krishna Mourti is
  1902. 1:07:22not a guru, but he is someone who left
  1903. 1:07:23behind some powerful sentences. And his
  1904. 1:07:26quote is this:" Truth is a land without
  1905. 1:07:30a path and no guide, no law, no
  1906. 1:07:33tradition will lead you there except
  1907. 1:07:37the awakening of your own intelligence.
  1908. 1:07:40"For me, that summed it all up. Heart
  1909. 1:07:47intelligence, right? Not just brain
  1910. 1:07:49intelligence. We agree on that, because
  1911. 1:07:51brain intelligence is artificial
  1912. 1:07:53intellect, AI if you like. But heart
  1913. 1:07:56intelligence is that thing inside you
  1914. 1:07:59that combines sensations, intuition,
  1915. 1:08:01common sense, and a connection to the
  1916. 1:08:04transcendent, but which tells you:"
  1917. 1:08:06Wait, I don't want to lock myself into
  1918. 1:08:09beliefs, protocols, or traditions. In
  1919. 1:08:13the name of what, in fact, am I going
  1920. 1:08:15to submit my autonomy and my, and, and
  1921. 1:08:17my own feelings? "Because a guy from
  1922. 1:08:195,000 years ago or 10 years ago who was
  1923. 1:08:21a success in bookstores told me that
  1924. 1:08:22this is how it should be done. I invite
  1925. 1:08:26people to deconstruct to find
  1926. 1:08:28themselves.
  1927. 1:08:29Hm. And maybe finally, do you have a
  1928. 1:08:32practice or a little exercise that
  1929. 1:08:33people could put into practice if they
  1930. 1:08:35say to themselves," OK, this speaks to
  1931. 1:08:37me and it's true that I want to do this
  1932. 1:08:38. "But who are they? Well, what do I do
  1933. 1:08:41? Uh, a little practice to help people
  1934. 1:08:43reconnect with their intuition. What
  1935. 1:08:45would that be? Well, I'm going to
  1936. 1:08:48disappoint a lot of people. What I do
  1937. 1:08:51for myself all the time, and it seems
  1938. 1:08:53to me to be the starting point for any
  1939. 1:08:55other practice, is breathing. It's the
  1940. 1:08:59most basic thing that requires no
  1941. 1:09:01investment. Guule, and a lot of people
  1942. 1:09:03are into that. Oh no! Oh no!
  1943. 1:09:05Oh no! Why did you already have that?
  1944. 1:09:07Too easy.
  1945. 1:09:08Yes, that's where you talk about
  1946. 1:09:09meditation, it's a big word, you see.
  1947. 1:09:11Whereas meditation is breathing
  1948. 1:09:12consciously and/or in a calm state of
  1949. 1:09:14mind. But hey, that's another debate.
  1950. 1:09:16But then, what about breathing
  1951. 1:09:17for me?
  1952. 1:09:18Why is breathing so effective? Well,
  1953. 1:09:21obviously, you see, we can technicalize
  1954. 1:09:23breathing. So, what are you talking
  1955. 1:09:25about? Cardiac coherence, hotropic
  1956. 1:09:27breathing, hyperventilation breathing.
  1957. 1:09:30Find something that you like because
  1958. 1:09:32what matters is not so much the
  1959. 1:09:33technique, otherwise you'll get caught
  1960. 1:09:35up in a mental thing again and it's
  1961. 1:09:36ruined. Breathing is more about the
  1962. 1:09:39idea of sitting down with yourself and
  1963. 1:09:41becoming aware of all the parts of the
  1964. 1:09:43body that you don't usually feel.
  1965. 1:09:45You're going to tell me," Yeah, okay,
  1966. 1:09:46we're getting into some saopro. Wait, I
  1967. 1:09:47don't see the connection with awakening
  1968. 1:09:48, consciousness. "Yes, matter is spirit
  1969. 1:09:51at its densest vibratory rate. And
  1970. 1:09:54spirit is matter at its highest
  1971. 1:09:56vibratory rate. I can assure you, Ry, I
  1972. 1:10:00work as a magnetizer, a radiesthesist
  1973. 1:10:02—I work in geobiology, I also provide
  1974. 1:10:03healing—I realize that the three-four
  1975. 1:10:05people I see...and I was one of them,
  1976. 1:10:07huh, and I may still be one of them.
  1977. 1:10:09But hey, let's say that I have a level
  1978. 1:10:11of consciousness that still brings me
  1979. 1:10:12back. People are not in their bodies.
  1980. 1:10:18Breathing is the way to go and meet
  1981. 1:10:21your whole being, to feel what hurts
  1982. 1:10:24you. So, you see, not to reject what
  1983. 1:10:26hurts you, but rather to say," I
  1984. 1:10:28welcome and accept what is. "I don't
  1985. 1:10:30force myself by saying," Oh no, but now
  1986. 1:10:32I have to be even more connected to
  1987. 1:10:33transcend this. "No, no, no, I accept
  1988. 1:10:36what is. And breathing will allow you
  1989. 1:10:39to release, you see, areas of stress.
  1990. 1:10:42So, there's a whole game of course with
  1991. 1:10:44the vagus nerve, the relationship with
  1992. 1:10:46the brain and then the perception of
  1993. 1:10:48your body, the regulation of breathing.
  1994. 1:10:51And so, the deepest states of
  1995. 1:10:53consciousness that I have ever
  1996. 1:10:54experienced occurred during moments of
  1997. 1:10:56breath, because I was not inside my own
  1998. 1:10:58mind, busy imagining all sorts of
  1999. 1:11:00things. I was, I don't even know if we
  2000. 1:11:04can talk about connection, I was in the
  2001. 1:11:05presence of what is, of sensation. And
  2002. 1:11:10sensation, don't believe me, do it for
  2003. 1:11:12yourself. Sensation is much deeper than
  2004. 1:11:16the mental imaginings that imagine
  2005. 1:11:19being connected to higher planes, to
  2006. 1:11:22disembodied beings or whatever.
  2007. 1:11:25Sensation is what will inform you of
  2008. 1:11:27what's happening right now inside you,
  2009. 1:11:29outside of you. And the outside can be
  2010. 1:11:31vast, right? It could be what's
  2011. 1:11:33happening in the world? What's
  2012. 1:11:34happening in the air? What's happening?
  2013. 1:11:36So for me, breathing is obvious. So,
  2014. 1:11:38find a protocol that you like. Cardiac
  2015. 1:11:40coherence, forced breathing. Take 4 or
  2016. 1:11:475 minutes, you won't get sick, and do
  2017. 1:11:48it safely, lying on your bed on the
  2018. 1:11:50floor, but do it, start there. What you
  2019. 1:11:55were saying, which also resonates with
  2020. 1:11:56me, is that there are a whole bunch of
  2021. 1:11:58things and what I try to do through the
  2022. 1:12:00podcast is to understand, dissect and
  2023. 1:12:01lift the hood a little to understand
  2024. 1:12:03the mechanics. But often, and you're
  2025. 1:12:05a mechanic yourself. I'm more of an
  2026. 1:12:08engineer at heart, but often what the
  2027. 1:12:10guests share with me, and I understand
  2028. 1:12:12it too, is that sometimes there's no
  2029. 1:12:13point in understanding. You just have
  2030. 1:12:16to live it, experience it, see how you
  2031. 1:12:18feel, see that you feel better and then
  2032. 1:12:19continue to put it into practice. And
  2033. 1:12:22then finally, how it works, why it
  2034. 1:12:24works, etc., it's sometimes useful to
  2035. 1:12:25be the nudge needed to get started. So
  2036. 1:12:29there you have it, a little invitation
  2037. 1:12:31at the end of the show to invite people
  2038. 1:12:33who are at home to take maybe 5 or 10
  2039. 1:12:34minutes to do this little exercise and
  2040. 1:12:36see how you feel at the end.
  2041. 1:12:39Johann, thank you very much for
  2042. 1:12:40everything you shared today, it was
  2043. 1:12:41super interesting. We covered topics
  2044. 1:12:43that I don't necessarily usually cover
  2045. 1:12:45in the podcast. So thank you very much
  2046. 1:12:47for everything you shared.
  2047. 1:12:48Thank you Réy. Your questions were
  2048. 1:12:50very interesting. I hope you enjoy it
  2049. 1:12:52and that it will Yes. that it will lead
  2050. 1:12:54people to dig deeper for themselves or
  2051. 1:12:56But I thank you Yeah. for your
  2052. 1:12:57open-mindedness, you ask good questions
  2053. 1:12:59and it's true that it's very pleasant
  2054. 1:13:00to talk with you. So I hope people will
  2055. 1:13:02enjoy listening to our conversation.
  2056. 1:13:04Yeah,
  2057. 1:13:04great. Before we finish, I forgot that
  2058. 1:13:06I have three little questions that I
  2059. 1:13:08ask. I'm back from vacation, so I'm
  2060. 1:13:10still a little rusty. Three little
  2061. 1:13:11questions that I ask all my guests at
  2062. 1:13:13the end of a show. The first one is,"
  2063. 1:13:15What does living a fulfilling life mean
  2064. 1:13:17to you? "
  2065. 1:13:20Okay. Living a fulfilling life means
  2066. 1:13:22knowing, knowing your deepest needs.
  2067. 1:13:26When you know these deepest needs, you
  2068. 1:13:28honor what is right and good for you.
  2069. 1:13:31From there, you follow the direction
  2070. 1:13:33that suits you in life. And the
  2071. 1:13:35direction is yours. It's not a
  2072. 1:13:37pre-established pattern. Know your
  2073. 1:13:39deepest needs,
  2074. 1:13:41physical, emotional, spiritual,
  2075. 1:13:42whatever you want.
  2076. 1:13:46If you had one piece of advice to give
  2077. 1:13:47to 20-year-old Johan, what would it be?
  2078. 1:13:5020-year-old Johan. Worry less about
  2079. 1:13:57what others think about
  2080. 1:14:04your performance, what you say, how you
  2081. 1:14:05are. Well, worry less about what others
  2082. 1:14:07think.
  2083. 1:14:09I think that's advice we can all take.
  2084. 1:14:12Listen Johan, thank you very much. One
  2085. 1:14:14last question. Where do the Can people
  2086. 1:14:16learn more about you? What you do? How
  2087. 1:14:18can they work with you? Oh yeah, that's
  2088. 1:14:21it. Yeah.
  2089. 1:14:22Yeah. Well, anyway, it's the same site
  2090. 1:14:24that my wife has with me. So I invite
  2091. 1:14:27you to go and check out our page. So
  2092. 1:14:28it's maison anam cara maisonanamcara.fr
  2093. 1:14:32. You'll find everything there. For
  2094. 1:14:34those who might want to get in touch
  2095. 1:14:36with me, I have a tab on my page. I
  2096. 1:14:38work as a support worker. So I offer
  2097. 1:14:41video sessions. I obviously do
  2098. 1:14:43astrological studies. But what I'd like
  2099. 1:14:46to quickly emphasize, what you're
  2100. 1:14:48giving me the opportunity to say, is
  2101. 1:14:50really the part that we're setting up
  2102. 1:14:52right now on courses and workshops, you
  2103. 1:14:54know, to work directly with people, not
  2104. 1:14:56just on screen, but to come here and
  2105. 1:14:58support them over 3 days with energy
  2106. 1:15:00practices, with moments of, well, a bit
  2107. 1:15:02of theory too. Um, and then I also have
  2108. 1:15:06everything A job that I do in
  2109. 1:15:07geobiology with my wife. So I also work
  2110. 1:15:09on places and houses, correcting places
  2111. 1:15:11. But that's normal, it's the whole
  2112. 1:15:13part, as I talked about a little bit,
  2113. 1:15:14of kinesthetics. So, uh, dowsing,
  2114. 1:15:16pendulums and magnetism. You can find
  2115. 1:15:19all that on maisonanamara.fr and my
  2116. 1:15:21YouTube channel, Yodam. Uh, there are
  2117. 1:15:24people who may already know it, but if
  2118. 1:15:25you want to see a little more of what
  2119. 1:15:26I'm talking about, well, it's all there
  2120. 1:15:27.
  2121. 1:15:28Great. Listen, I'll put all the links
  2122. 1:15:30in the description of the video like
  2123. 1:15:31every time. Johan, thank you very much
  2124. 1:15:32for being with us today and for sharing
  2125. 1:15:34everything you share. Thank you Réy.
  2126. 1:15:36Keep up the good work, it's well
  2127. 1:15:37deserved.
  2128. 1:15:38Thank you, I'm Réy, you're watching
  2129. 1:15:39point0 and I'll see you in the next
  2130. 1:15:41episode. Ciao!
  2131. 1:15:43Thank you for being part of the
  2132. 1:15:44adventure. If you're ever looking for a
  2133. 1:15:47trusted practitioner to help you on
  2134. 1:15:49your own journey, I created the
  2135. 1:15:50collective.0, a free platform for
  2136. 1:15:52practitioners and users based on a
  2137. 1:15:54referral system that allows you to find
  2138. 1:15:56the trusted holistic practitioner who
  2139. 1:15:58is right for you. The link is in the
  2140. 1:16:00description of the video.

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