Especial São Gabriel Arcanjo | Ep. #138 | com Rafael Brito — Transcript
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- 0:16And another Anima Podcast is about to
- 0:18begin, the most Catholic podcast in
- 0:20this Brazil. I'm Kenny, I'm here with
- 0:23Bertaldinho, always blue.
- 0:26Very well. And our guest today, as we
- 0:30continue our trilogy on the archangels,
- 0:33is him, Rafael Brito. Welcome, Rafael.
- 0:37It's good to be here once again. Thank
- 0:38you.
- 0:38It's a joy, you know? We are very happy
- 0:41because today we are starting our
- 0:42second episode of this trilogy, where
- 0:44we will talk about Saint Gabriel.
- 0:47Rafa, or Rafael, he can already ask for
- 0:49a song.
- 0:50It's the third time he's here, that's
- 0:52true.
- 0:52Third time.
- 0:53Third time. You can ask for a song.
- 0:55He's the first one, the first one to
- 0:57come three times.
- 0:58No, no,
- 0:59he's the second. Balbino.
- 1:00Ah, Balbino, that's right,
- 1:01that's true. There are two people
- 1:02asking for songs now.
- 1:03Father Balbino, no, but Bino has been
- 1:05on the Mass series 30 times, so he
- 1:07already asked for a song, he's done it
- 1:09all.
- 1:11Before I introduce our dear guest to
- 1:13you, for those who haven't seen the
- 1:14other episodes.
- 1:16Whoever hasn't seen them isn't
- 1:17subscribed to the channel. I'm
- 1:18absolutely sure.
- 1:20Whoever hasn't seen the one about Saint
- 1:22Michael yet, man, that episode was, huh
- 1:24? Spectacular.
- 1:26It was a real mind-blowing explosion
- 1:28about Saint Michael.
- 1:29It really was, really, talking to you
- 1:31about the store. I am enchanted, what a
- 1:34beautiful thing. Enchanted,
- 1:37with. It hurts. It doesn't hurt. It's
- 1:39just good. With this image of Our Lady.
- 1:43I think it's beautiful and I like this
- 1:45tone because, well, I think it's a
- 1:46woody tone. It goes with the with the
- 1:49with ours. Oh, there's also, there's
- 1:50one in a blue tone. Yeah. And if you
- 1:52want, there's Our Lady of Bertaldo, the
- 1:54new devotion. Mariana,
- 1:56you said this one was Kenny's, the
- 1:57blonde one, right?
- 1:57Our Lady of Bertaldo is blue. He said
- 2:00it was Bertaldo's and it's blue.
- 2:01Look over here. Turn it over here,
- 2:02please. Blue.
- 2:03Here. And look at me, oh.
- 2:05Our Lady of Bertaldo.
- 2:07There's an Our Lady for everyone, for
- 2:09the blondes and for various others.
- 2:11It's the most popular Our Lady we have
- 2:13at Anima today. I'll leave Our Lady of
- 2:15Bertaldo here.
- 2:16No, you're going to ruin our decoration
- 2:18. Put it back, put it back. Store,
- 2:21we're in the store. The official store
- 2:24has our lady, as Bertaldo is saying,
- 2:26which is our blonde lady, anyway, but
- 2:29which I find very elegant. Uh,
- 2:31what is the address for Anima?
- 2:33Lojaanimaoficial.com.br.
- 2:36The Catholic family store. Oh my God,
- 2:38don't start with that family thing.
- 2:40We have this book combo that comes in
- 2:42this beautiful box.
- 2:44Whose is it?
- 2:44Oh, from a very special person. Who
- 2:46could it be? Who could it be? Rafael.
- 2:48The guy didn't write the book about
- 2:49Saint Raphael, man. I am outraged here.
- 2:51But the first one is Michael, the
- 2:53guardian of the secret place.
- 2:55I've read it.
- 2:55There's another one, the mystery of the
- 2:57guardian angel. Very good.
- 2:58I've read it. Go on.
- 2:59I've read it.
- 3:00The secret of the angels. Go on.
- 3:02I've read it.
- 3:02Very good. And they all come inside
- 3:05this box because it is also the trilogy
- 3:07he wrote about angels. Beautiful. And
- 3:10we also have angels in the store. So
- 3:12our store is like this,
- 3:14the family store. Wonderful, because it
- 3:17brings the sacred close to us.
- 3:18Very good.
- 3:19And let me tell you, those who don't
- 3:21yet know all the qualities of Professor
- 3:23Rafael will know them now. Why?
- 3:26Professor, master with four master's
- 3:28degrees. He is a master, master, he's
- 3:30already asked for more than music in
- 3:31the master's, look. And a doctoral
- 3:33student in theology and philosophy at
- 3:36the Gregorian in Rome.
- 3:38Four
- 3:38and also at the Spanish Salamanca. This
- 3:41is fancy. Four master's degrees. Still
- 3:43doing a doctorate. I would already be a
- 3:46master.
- 3:46Damn.
- 3:48Founder of the Saint Raphael Institute,
- 3:50specialist in Angels and Demons.
- 3:52Da-da-da-da. Author of those books I
- 3:55mentioned, and besides those, the
- 3:57Devotional Praying with the Holy Angels
- 3:59, married to the dear Lilian and father
- 4:01of two beautiful boys, Daniel and Lucas
- 4:02.
- 4:04And but are you also an exorcist? No,
- 4:05because she already said that you are a
- 4:06specialist in demons.
- 4:07No, I'm not.
- 4:08They are different things. I'm not a
- 4:11specialist, I just studied a little bit
- 4:13. Actually, my focus is more on angels.
- 4:16Demons, leave that to the exorcists
- 4:17here. Call little Andre, right?
- 4:19Leave it to little Andre. That's it.
- 4:20André Prazeres, our dear friend
- 4:22dear,
- 4:23beautiful,
- 4:24who was here for a wonderful podcast,
- 4:26an episode that was also very good, and
- 4:28is totally worth it. So, today we are
- 4:30going to unveil Saint Gabriel. Because,
- 4:35in the episode we did—whoever hasn't
- 4:36watched it, go watch it, it was the
- 4:38very first one—where we talked
- 4:40generally about all the angels, we
- 4:41really missed talking about Saint
- 4:43Gabriel. And some people said: "Man,
- 4:45talk more about Saint Gabriel". So, we
- 4:47had this idea, right, of doing this...
- 4:50about Saint Raphael, about Saint
- 4:51Michael, now about Saint Gabriel and
- 4:53later about Saint Raphael, but today
- 4:55it's Gabriel.
- 4:56That's it.
- 4:57Explain it to us. We want to know who
- 4:59the Saint is because we know a lot,
- 5:00right? that we know a lot, Saint
- 5:03Gabriel announced to Our Lady that she,
- 5:06right, would conceive by the Holy
- 5:09Spirit the Savior. But what else?
- 5:12Man, have you ever imagined? Have you
- 5:13ever imagined? Think with me. Think
- 5:15with me. Have you ever imagined when
- 5:17God calls Gabriel and says: "Gabriel,
- 5:19come here, my son. Go there and
- 5:21announce to Mary that she will be the
- 5:24mother of the Savior." Man, he must
- 5:27have been like: "Whoa,
- 5:30how did he go? How did he do it?
- 5:32How did he do it? Do it!
- 5:33Whoa! Seriously, man?
- 5:35Gabriel is really from Rio, isn't he?
- 5:37I was the one who was going to say that
- 5:38, man. Seriously,
- 5:39guys? Good heavens, this is a stand-up
- 5:41comedy act.
- 5:41Darn. Look at that. Hey, I liked it, I
- 5:44liked it. It was worth staying here.
- 5:46Look,
- 5:46I imagine something else. I imagine
- 5:48Mary looking.
- 5:50No, calm down. That's the second part.
- 5:51So that's what
- 5:52the second part is. The first part, God
- 5:54called him and said:" Come here, my son
- 5:55. Come here. You go there and announce
- 5:58that Mary will be the mother of my son.
- 6:01"
- 6:01So, with the floor, our expert Rafael
- 6:03Brito.
- 6:04It didn't happen, but tell us about it.
- 6:05Do you have the description of this
- 6:06scene, dear?
- 6:08The description, but the imagination is
- 6:10more or less like that.
- 6:11More or less like that, right? Huh.
- 6:13Exactly. Because, no, he must have been
- 6:15so happy, aside from the" whoa "I said,
- 6:16he must have been super happy. Super
- 6:19honored.
- 6:20Super honored.
- 6:21He received, Gabriel, he received the
- 6:23greatest
- 6:24of all missions for a messenger. No
- 6:28prophet, no angel received what he
- 6:31received. And he received the grace to
- 6:37announce, but not only to announce, but
- 6:40to be the very word of God in the name
- 6:44of God to ask that little girl from
- 6:47Nazareth, that 15-year-old young woman.
- 6:52They say she was younger, some say,
- 6:53right? They talk about 12, talk, but
- 6:55she was in that age range, she was in
- 6:56that mid, she wasn't
- 6:57middle-aged, right? Right?
- 7:01If she was willing to collaborate with
- 7:03the plan of salvation, that was going
- 7:05to change the history of all creation.
- 7:10So, this angel, this celestial being,
- 7:13Gabriel, he has a place in the heart of
- 7:17Jesus and in the Immaculate Heart of
- 7:20Mary that is only his.
- 7:24Did he go alone? He did.
- 7:27Didn't the seven archangels go? No,
- 7:29no. It's just him.
- 7:30It was just him, really.
- 7:31It is him.
- 7:32And then it's and it's clear, in Luke
- 7:34it's very clear. In the sixth month,
- 7:37the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a
- 7:40city of Galilee named Nazareth.
- 7:43But, but does he say it's Gabriel? No.
- 7:45He says
- 7:46to Mary.
- 7:47No. He doesn't say it, but Luke says
- 7:48it's Gabriel.
- 7:49No. So Luke says that. I know, but I
- 7:51didn't see Our Lady's narrative saying:
- 7:53" No, the archangel Gabriel came here.
- 7:55"And he must have she must have told
- 7:58Luke, right? In the text.
- 7:59No, when he speaks, look, when she asks
- 8:02, how will this be since I do not know
- 8:04any man, he says, look, for God nothing
- 8:06is impossible and your relative
- 8:08Elizabeth is in the sixth month, she
- 8:10who was said to be barren.
- 8:13Uh-huh.
- 8:13He announced six months earlier to
- 8:15Zechariah that and he says:" I am
- 8:18Gabriel. "
- 8:19We're going to get into that part. Ah,
- 8:22so Luke says:" It's Gabriel, because
- 8:23Luke doesn't make it up in his head, he
- 8:25interviewed Our Lady, so Our Lady told
- 8:26him. "So it was Gabriel who announced
- 8:31it now. Look at that spectacle. We've
- 8:34been talking in all these episodes
- 8:35about angels, the grandeur of angels,
- 8:38the heavenly figure, everything, right?
- 8:41about everything that leaves everyone
- 8:43enthralled. And this always gets to me
- 8:46a lot. And he reveres that young girl
- 8:51saying hail full of grace.
- 8:54Exactly.
- 8:54Look, look at this. Look at the
- 8:57importance of this. We're talking about
- 9:00an archangel greeting a young girl to
- 9:03see the importance of Mary.
- 9:06Exactly.
- 9:07Then we go back to that original fight.
- 9:10Uh-huh. where the demon was expelled
- 9:12from there, because Michael fought,
- 9:14right, as we talked about in the last
- 9:15episode.
- 9:17And and the angels loyal to Michael and
- 9:19loyal to God remained, right? But those
- 9:23who remained agreed that God was going
- 9:26to become incarnate in a man and
- 9:28through a woman,
- 9:31right? So he he goes about fulfilling
- 9:34what was done back then, doesn't he?
- 9:38That is, to serve the Lord and serve
- 9:40what the Lord wants.
- 9:42To serve the incarnate Lord and his
- 9:44mother, a woman. Well, let's start then
- 9:48.
- 9:49Redundancy. Let's start from the
- 9:50beginning. Who is Gabriel?
- 9:52Let's. Who is Gabriel?
- 9:53OK. Gabriel. Gabriel means strength of
- 9:58God or man of God. An older translation
- 10:03, champion of God. Eh, Saint John of
- 10:09Damascus even called him God’s
- 10:12gladiator, a champion. So, wait, we are
- 10:18back to the mystery again. He is not
- 10:21just someone who announces, no. When he
- 10:24is not announcing, what does he do? He
- 10:26is a warrior, too. He is a fighter, and
- 10:29he is the strength of God. In Jewish
- 10:33and Christian tradition, Gabriel has
- 10:36always been considered the second most
- 10:40powerful celestial being in paradise.
- 10:44So, when we speak of the archangels, we
- 10:47speak of seven who have their hierarchy
- 10:49among these seven: Michael, Gabriel,
- 10:52Raphael, and the other four whose names
- 10:55we do not know. However, seven, before
- 10:57that whole multitude I already told you
- 11:00about, of animate and inanimate beings,
- 11:02right, which Saint Thomas tells us are
- 11:04countless in number, what is seven in
- 11:07the face of
- 11:08ah, it is total command, right? Because
- 11:10, man,
- 11:11it is the council of angels in the
- 11:13presence of God. Therefore, if Michael
- 11:16is on the right as a minister—and
- 11:19Michael, just a small addendum to the
- 11:22continuation from last week—he is the
- 11:24expression of God’s goodness. Michael
- 11:27is the expression of goodness, of care,
- 11:30of protection, goodness. And Gabriel is
- 11:33the justice of God. He is on the left.
- 11:37So, for the Jewish tradition, for the
- 11:39rabbis too, and especially contemporary
- 11:42rabbis, it is Jesus. It is Gamaliel
- 11:45himself, who was the master of Paul of
- 11:48Tarsus, right, of Saint Paul, who
- 11:50teaches us about this reality. And he,
- 11:53Gabriel, he is the angel of God’s
- 11:56justice. OK? Now, for the Jews, in
- 12:00terms of power, the Jews, okay?
- 12:03Uh-huh.
- 12:04Gabriel is more powerful than Michael
- 12:06because he is the angel of justice. He
- 12:08comes to resolve things. When Gabriel
- 12:10arrives—that is why no one talks much
- 12:11about Gabriel—because calling Gabriel
- 12:13is to solve problems, it is for eternal
- 12:15judgment. When he comes, he comes to
- 12:17pass judgment. He is terrible.
- 12:20It is true. Terrible.
- 12:22We are going to see this here. He is
- 12:23terrible. It is haunting to see
- 12:26the presence of Gabriel. When you
- 12:28invoke Gabriel, he comes to be able to
- 12:30remove the blindfolds from your eyes.
- 12:32He comes to remove the darkness, the
- 12:34mists that are before you. He comes to
- 12:38deliver a message from heaven that the
- 12:39Lord gave him regarding your life. And
- 12:44that is where the spiritual battle
- 12:46enters again, what happens with Daniel,
- 12:48because the evil spiritual world does
- 12:50not want you to have knowledge of who
- 12:52this archangel is, because this
- 12:54archangel is capable of opening doors
- 12:56that are closed. First thing, he has
- 13:00this power. So then you ask, for
- 13:04example, the Jewish tradition: so you
- 13:06are saying that Gabriel is more
- 13:09powerful, let's say, than Michael.
- 13:12That's strange, isn't it? Then they
- 13:15reply:" It's not that he's more
- 13:16powerful. Why is Michael first and not
- 13:20Gabriel? "Should it be Gabriel or
- 13:21Michael? No. Why is it? Why? God's
- 13:24goodness exceeds His justice. Because
- 13:28if God used justice with us in
- 13:29everything, what would become of us?
- 13:31The psalmist says.
- 13:32Not even dust would be left.
- 13:34Exactly.
- 13:35So, when Michael comes, Michael is the
- 13:37expression of care, affection,
- 13:39protection, the bond, and the covenant.
- 13:42That is why he fights, that is why he
- 13:43loves. He is the consuming fire of
- 13:46God's love to be with us. Gabriel is
- 13:49the side of justice. Well, let's look
- 13:53then here at Daniel chapter 10.
- 13:56Daniel chapter 10. Which verse?
- 13:59We will take it here. Let's start right
- 14:02at the beginning, at one. And following
- 14:04.
- 14:05In the third year of Cyrus, king of
- 14:08Persia, a message was revealed to
- 14:11Daniel, named Belteshazzar. This
- 14:14message was true and announced great
- 14:17struggles. Daniel understood the
- 14:20message and had knowledge of the
- 14:22meaning of the vision. At that time, I,
- 14:26Daniel, did penance for three weeks. I
- 14:30tasted no choice food. No meat or wine
- 14:34touched my mouth. I did not anoint
- 14:38myself with oil at all throughout the
- 14:40course of those three weeks. On the
- 14:4524th day of the first month, I was by
- 14:48the side of the great river, the Tigris
- 14:51. Lifting my eyes, I saw a man dressed
- 14:55in linen. His waist was girded with a
- 14:58belt of gold from Uphaz. His body was
- 15:03like chrysolite. His face shone like
- 15:06lightning. His eyes like burning
- 15:10torches. His arms and feet had the
- 15:13appearance of polished bronze. And his
- 15:17voice resounded like the roar of a
- 15:20multitude. I, Daniel, was the only one
- 15:24to see this apparition. His companions
- 15:28did not see him, but a great dread
- 15:32seized them so they fled to hide.
- 15:36OK? Up to here for now.
- 15:38OK.
- 15:38So you have here Daniel, who is in
- 15:41Babylon, in exile.
- 15:42Uh-huh.
- 15:43He is a prophet. God is revealing to
- 15:46him future times, also the time of
- 15:49anguish, the destiny of the people.
- 15:52Will Israel never return to worship God
- 15:55, to return home? Will they stay in a
- 15:57foreign land, will there be no savior,
- 15:59will there be nothing? What is
- 16:01happening, Daniel? This young man who
- 16:05was chained in the time of
- 16:07Nebuchadnezzar, who was likely from a
- 16:09priestly and noble family and who is
- 16:12taken away, castrated, becomes a eunuch
- 16:19traumatized in exile. And then you see
- 16:23someone very wounded upon whom God
- 16:26casts His gaze to reveal the future to
- 16:29him. The first lesson we learn here, it
- 16:32doesn't matter what you have been
- 16:34through nor even the wounds you carry
- 16:36in your soul. If God has looked upon
- 16:39you and wants you, no one can stop
- 16:42God's will in your life. First thing.
- 16:45So, God chooses Daniel. Daniel means—
- 16:48I have a son named Daniel—therefore
- 16:52God is my judge or God is my justice.
- 16:57Does the relationship of the prophet
- 16:59Daniel with the Archangel Gabriel make
- 17:01sense? Because Gabriel, the angel of
- 17:04justice, is speaking to someone whose
- 17:05name says that God is justice. And
- 17:09Daniel proposes to pray, to do 21 days
- 17:11of prayer and fasting, to understand
- 17:14what God wants to say to His people,
- 17:16and at the same time he is interceding
- 17:19for the people to return home. He is
- 17:21not happy with what is happening. For
- 17:2421 days. He is there fasting and
- 17:26everything else. And on the bank of the
- 17:28river, the Tigris river, he is there.
- 17:31And then he has this vision. And the
- 17:33vision is, returning to the text, he
- 17:36sees a man
- 17:39clothed in linen,
- 17:41clothed in linen. He girded his loins
- 17:43with a belt of gold from Ophir. So he
- 17:45is dressed in white. You can show, for
- 17:48example, the angel of peace of Portugal
- 17:50dressed in white.
- 17:54Oh, wait a minute. Are you seeing this
- 17:55here? This
- 17:56here, look,
- 17:57right? White. Why white? Because white
- 18:00for us, right, reminds us, for us
- 18:03Catholics, okay? The vestments of
- 18:06baptism that make us, when we were
- 18:08baptized, by receiving the baptismal
- 18:10tunic, it is nothing more than simply
- 18:13reminding us that through Jesus we are
- 18:15associated with the life of the angels.
- 18:18So, spiritually we also wear a garment
- 18:20like this. When this garment becomes
- 18:24stained, we need the sacrament of
- 18:25confession, which you are already,
- 18:27right, teaching a lot about and will
- 18:29start to teach people about, because
- 18:31the sacrament of confession restores
- 18:34baptismal purity to those who truly
- 18:36perform it in its truth. Well, white
- 18:39linen,
- 18:41keep it close to me, okay? with a
- 18:47golden belt girded around his waist.
- 18:49Then he says:" His body was like
- 18:51chrysolite. "Chrysolite is a stone
- 18:55called peridot in Portuguese. It is a
- 18:59it looks like a a it is a type of
- 19:01crystal, but it is green and it has the
- 19:04ability to let light pass through it
- 19:07when it is polished. It is very
- 19:09beautiful, translucent. Lucid.
- 19:10Remembering that green represents hope,
- 19:12and it also represents something new
- 19:15that is coming. So, his body has the
- 19:18appearance of eh a crystal like
- 19:21chrysolite. Light passes through him
- 19:24and he transmits this green color to
- 19:26Daniel. Hope in the face of the
- 19:28struggles he is living through. Eh, his
- 19:31face, the characteristics he is talking
- 19:33about of this this being he is seeing
- 19:36before him, his face, where is it?
- 19:41It is verse 5.
- 19:42Verse 5.
- 19:44Verse six.
- 19:45Six. His body was like chrysolite, his
- 19:47face shone like lightning. If someone
- 19:51had the chance to look at lightning,
- 19:53how it shines, it is terrifying from
- 19:56afar. In the middle of the darkness you
- 19:58see the lightning, right? So, his face
- 20:02like lightning, his eyes like burning
- 20:04torches and his arms and feet had the
- 20:07appearance of polished bronze, and his
- 20:09voice resounded like the roar of a
- 20:12crowd, in other words, of many waters.
- 20:17Polished bronze back then, it was also
- 20:20often used to try in some way to create
- 20:23a reflection before enemies in a war.
- 20:27They used plates of shields, to shine
- 20:28in the eyes, right? Exactly. So, think
- 20:31about this boy's vision. He is before
- 20:34him, before a being full of light, a
- 20:36being who has, when looking at his face
- 20:38, it seems like he is seeing someone
- 20:40who has lightning in his eyes, in his
- 20:42face. His eyes are like torches of fire
- 20:44. He looks at his arms, it reflects
- 20:46light the whole time. Light, light,
- 20:47light, light. Terrifying to the point
- 20:49that only he is having that vision. His
- 20:52companions who were praying with him
- 20:54are not seeing it, but they feel the
- 20:55presence which is so powerful,
- 20:56it is powerful
- 20:57that they run, they become terrified.
- 21:00It reminds us precisely of what
- 21:02happened with Moses before the mountain
- 21:04, when God when he entered the cloud
- 21:06and the whole mountain shook and the
- 21:09people were terrified because God came
- 21:11to speak in His glory with Moses in the
- 21:13Shekinah, in the cloud. That is what
- 21:16happens here. It is what happens, for
- 21:19example, of power in the resurrection.
- 21:22When the angel rolls away the stone,
- 21:24you feel thunder, the earth shaking and
- 21:26the soldiers leave, they faint, right?
- 21:28So this is a powerful one. You have
- 21:31something extraordinary like this. They
- 21:34run and flee leaving Daniel alone. And
- 21:36Daniel says, verse 7 continues. I,
- 21:39Daniel, was the only one to see this
- 21:41apparition. My companions did not see
- 21:44it, but such a great terror seized them
- 21:46that they fled to hide themselves. I
- 21:50remained, therefore, alone to
- 21:52contemplate this grandiose apparition.
- 21:56My strength abandoned me. The
- 21:59complexion of my face turned livid and
- 22:01I fainted. I then heard this man speak
- 22:06and at the sound of his words I fell
- 22:08unconscious with my face to the ground.
- 22:12Yet behold, a hand touched me and
- 22:15caused me to rise up on my knees and
- 22:19palms of my hands. Daniel, man of
- 22:23predilection, he said, pay attention to
- 22:26the words I am about to address to you.
- 22:30Stand up, for I have a message to
- 22:33entrust to you. As he spoke to me thus,
- 22:37I stood up trembling.
- 22:39So, it's here, you can see it here,
- 22:40look. Daniel is left alone. This man,
- 22:45this being, right, uh, is so powerful
- 22:47that when he approaches Daniel, Daniel
- 22:50loses his strength and and faints,
- 22:52becomes weak, because the weight is so
- 22:55strong
- 22:56just like the little shepherds were
- 22:58before the apparition of the angel. 6
- 22:59hours prostrate. Yes, but they also
- 23:02relate that and Lucia relates
- 23:05that the angel's apparition causes in
- 23:07her what it caused here in Daniel, but
- 23:09the apparition of Our Lady does not.
- 23:11For a very simple reason, I mean,
- 23:13simple, uh, my own interpretation.
- 23:16Yes.
- 23:16Our Lady, even though she has a body
- 23:19similar to the resurrected body, is a
- 23:22human body.
- 23:23The angel does not.
- 23:24How beautiful.
- 23:24The angel is pure energy.
- 23:26Yes. So it is this force, this light
- 23:29that is also described from the first
- 23:31to the last line in Fatima. In this
- 23:34light, there is a book that deals only
- 23:36with this light. The light that Our
- 23:39Lady put into their chests, the light
- 23:41that the little shepherds saw
- 23:43themselves in, with Francisco and
- 23:45Jacinta facing heaven and Lucia facing
- 23:47earth. The light that Our Lady put into
- 23:50their chests, they understood who God
- 23:51was and how God wanted to be loved. So,
- 23:54there is a whole there is a whole book
- 23:56that deals only with the light,
- 23:59of this light which is a, let's say,
- 24:01the light of God that Our Lady places
- 24:03and the angel places in the little
- 24:04shepherds.
- 24:06Beautiful thing.
- 24:06I mean, you see here we do a program,
- 24:08do a program, go here, go there, come
- 24:10there, come here and return to Fatima.
- 24:12Yes.
- 24:13There is no, there is no way to have a
- 24:14reference,
- 24:14because Fatima is theology. It is
- 24:16impressive, Jesus at the center of the
- 24:19message of Fatima. So,
- 24:21how wonderful.
- 24:22It is truly impressive.
- 24:23But go on.
- 24:24Go on.
- 24:25No, and this light that and this light
- 24:27that the angels carry, the Catechism of
- 24:29the Catholic Church itself tells us
- 24:30that the life of the angels is a
- 24:32Christocentric life from the beginning,
- 24:33right? Their lives are deeply turned
- 24:37toward the reality of the Word, the
- 24:38second person of the Holy Trinity. And
- 24:41when John says that Christ is the light
- 24:43, the Word is the light that enlightens
- 24:46every man, he is the light of the world
- 24:49that descends to earth, right? It is
- 24:51precisely this light. The angel is full
- 24:53of light, but the light is not his own,
- 24:55no. He is a bearer of light, just as we
- 24:58are. In truth, the angel, the saints,
- 25:02the blessed, those who are in the
- 25:04presence of God, carry within
- 25:06themselves the light of God, which is
- 25:08Jesus himself. And this light
- 25:10illuminates. So, and this light is
- 25:13capable. So, you have here that he is
- 25:16left without strength, he faints, he
- 25:18falls to the ground, and he trembles.
- 25:22In the translation, for example, of the
- 25:24Jerusalem Bible and in the translation
- 25:27of the Navarre Bible, and also in the
- 25:29Vulgate, you have, instead of that, he
- 25:32says:" Oh, I was left, therefore, alone
- 25:34, my strength abandoned me. "" I heard
- 25:37then this man speak and, the sound of
- 25:39his words, I fell fainting. "" But then
- 25:41, a hand touched me "and he says:" Oh,
- 25:43Daniel, man of predilection, pay
- 25:45attention to the words, stand up, for I
- 25:48have a message to entrust to you. "In
- 25:50Saint Jerome's translation of the
- 25:52Vulgate it is:" Stand on your feet in
- 25:54your place, for I will speak with you.
- 25:56"Like, he raises him, puts him on his
- 25:59feet, now stand up so I can speak with
- 26:02you. The first thing Saint Gabriel does
- 26:05in someone's life when he arrives is to
- 26:07position you in the place where God has
- 26:09put you. No one talks to Gabriel
- 26:11prostrate; he puts you on your feet.
- 26:15Stand up, listen to what God has for
- 26:17you. Because to stand in the Old
- 26:20Testament is readiness, is service, is
- 26:22to be ready to serve. And you are weak,
- 26:26wait a minute, I will read to you. That
- 26:28is why he is the strength of God, that
- 26:30is why his name is God's fortress. He
- 26:32puts Daniel on his feet. And in putting
- 26:36Daniel on his feet, eh, he will also
- 26:38say, right?
- 26:40It is fortress or justice of God. He is
- 26:42God's fortress. Gabriel means God's
- 26:45fortress, the name
- 26:46for.
- 26:47OK. In this sense, then he stands up.
- 26:51This is very strong. And then when he
- 26:53stands in his place, then he will say:"
- 26:58Do not fear, Daniel, "he said to me,"
- 27:00for from the first day that you set
- 27:02your heart to understand and humbled
- 27:04yourself before your God, your prayers
- 27:06were heard, and that is why I have come
- 27:08. "Then you ask:" Rafa, how can you
- 27:10prove that to me? "I have received some
- 27:13comments on the internet from haters,
- 27:15even some Protestants, saying:" Where
- 27:17is it written here that it is Gabriel?
- 27:20"Calm down, I will show you where it is
- 27:22written, because there are phrases
- 27:24implied here, words that he uses with
- 27:26Zechariah, for example, when he speaks
- 27:30to Zechariah. And I am not saying this;
- 27:33this is not my own interpretation. It
- 27:34is the Catholic Church, the doctrine of
- 27:36the Church, Saint Bernard of Clairvaux
- 27:37who interprets this text this way.
- 27:39It is not a Rafael Brito interpretation
- 27:40.
- 27:40God forbid, I'm not crazy,
- 27:43nor am I Paul.
- 27:44Saint Bernard of Clairvaux.
- 27:45When it is Saint Rafael Brito, then we
- 27:47will cite it.
- 27:49Yeah, you have to be a doctor to do
- 27:50something like this; Saint Bernard is a
- 27:52Doctor of the Church.
- 27:53So he says, right, pay attention, do
- 27:56not fear, because from the time you set
- 27:59your heart to understand, eh, your
- 28:02prayers were heard. Many years later, a
- 28:06priest who wants a child, who cannot
- 28:07have one and is humbled, his name is
- 28:09Zechariah, he is praying in the
- 28:11presence of God—we will get to him—
- 28:12who is a cousin of Our Lady, who is the
- 28:14father of John the Baptist. The angel
- 28:16arrives and says:" Do not fear,
- 28:18Zechariah, because your prayers were
- 28:19heard in heaven and the Lord sent me to
- 28:21you. Behold, your wife will conceive
- 28:24and give birth to a son, and you shall
- 28:26call him John. "See that there is a
- 28:31connection. These are attitudes, these
- 28:36are specific characteristics of this
- 28:38person. As I have always said, angels
- 28:41are persons, and persons have
- 28:43characteristics. They are not
- 28:45mass-produced; each one is unique. The
- 28:48Psalm itself, Psalm 147, says that God
- 28:50fixed the stars in the sky—it is not
- 28:52talking about stars, it is talking
- 28:54about spiritual beings—and calls them
- 28:57each by name. Each one has their own
- 28:59name, and God knows them individually
- 29:00with their character. Well, then he
- 29:03continues, the prince of the kingdom of
- 29:05Persia; we used this text last week to
- 29:07talk about the presence of Michael and
- 29:10the collaboration of the angels. The
- 29:12prince of the kingdom of Persia
- 29:14resisted me for twenty-one days, but
- 29:15Michael, one of the chief princes, came
- 29:17to my aid. So I remained there with the
- 29:19king of Persia. I am here to help you
- 29:22understand what must happen to your
- 29:24people in the final days, for this
- 29:26vision concerns distant times. Continue
- 29:29, Bertaldo, verse 15. As he was
- 29:32speaking to me, I kept my eyes fixed on
- 29:35the ground and remained silent.
- 29:38Suddenly, a being with human form
- 29:41touched my lips. I opened my mouth and
- 29:44spoke. I said to the figure who stood
- 29:48before me," My Lord, this vision has
- 29:51shaken me and I have no strength. "How
- 29:55could the servant of my lord speak with
- 29:58his lord when he is without strength
- 30:01and breathless? Then, the being in
- 30:06human form touched me again and revived
- 30:09me. Do not fear anything, man of
- 30:13predilection. May peace be with you.
- 30:16Courage, courage. As he spoke to me, I
- 30:21felt revived. Speak, my Lord, I said,
- 30:25for you have restored my strength.
- 30:29When you see here, for example, in the
- 30:31Ave Maria translation, speak to me,
- 30:32lord, it is not Lord with a capital
- 30:34letter, but lowercase.
- 30:36Right. Lowercase, because it is
- 30:38addressed to the angel and not to God.
- 30:40Exactly. Not to God.
- 30:41Right.
- 30:42Then you speak, okay? He says that
- 30:45afterwards he left, right, Michael
- 30:47fighting, he will return later, he
- 30:48delivers the message, anyway. Then you
- 30:51come here to chapter 9
- 30:54of Daniel.
- 30:55Of Daniel, chapter 9.
- 30:57Yes. The enigmatic oracle of Jeremiah.
- 31:02Sorry, chapter 8, sorry,
- 31:06chapter 8, visions,
- 31:07verse 15. 8 15. It is still about
- 31:10visions. Daniel is having visions about
- 31:12the domains of that time, of the
- 31:14governments that Israel would go
- 31:16through, about the kingdoms that
- 31:18oppressed them. And then a being
- 31:21appears very similar to this one in
- 31:23chapter 10. Wow, how interesting. There
- 31:26in chapter 10 it does not say the name,
- 31:27but here it does and it is very similar
- 31:29. Let us read what the Bible says here.
- 31:31Go ahead. Now, as I contemplated this
- 31:34vision and sought the meaning, I saw
- 31:37standing before me a being in human
- 31:40form and I heard a human voice coming
- 31:43from the middle of the Ulai. Gabriel
- 31:48cried out, explain the vision to him.
- 31:53He then headed toward the place where I
- 31:58was. As he approached, I was terrified
- 32:03and fell face down on the ground. Son
- 32:06of man, he said to me:" Understand well
- 32:09that this vision symbolizes the end
- 32:12time? "
- 32:13Done. Up to here again. He got close to
- 32:16Daniel, Daniel fainted again.
- 32:18Dan, Daniel faints, right?
- 32:20He faints. And it was intense, because
- 32:22if he appeared twice to me, I think I
- 32:23would just stay there right then. The
- 32:26power of this angel,
- 32:27no. The angel's power leaves the person
- 32:29feeling annihilated.
- 32:30Exactly. So you have Gabriel in this
- 32:32reality that is terrifying and he says:
- 32:35" Calm down, do not be afraid. "Because
- 32:38imagine you having that vision before
- 32:41this powerful being, you are terrified.
- 32:44Daniel says:" I am shaking to my core.
- 32:46"I, I couldn't stay on my knees be
- 32:48But I think it's not so much because of
- 32:50what you see, but because of what you
- 32:51feel
- 32:51also. Also. Because when you see Our
- 32:55Lady, by analogy,
- 32:57yes,
- 32:57you don't feel the same thing.
- 32:59Uh-huh.
- 33:01So, when you see the angel, you see him
- 33:04as you see Our Lady, but you feel
- 33:06distinct things.
- 33:08Exactly.
- 33:09This is the account of the little
- 33:10shepherds. It's wonderful.
- 33:12Do you know what I imagine? When we are
- 33:14praying, and uh, whoever has been
- 33:16through this experience of being in
- 33:18deep prayer, where you become so
- 33:20absorbed in it, you become so, you know
- 33:22, surrendered, you don't even want to
- 33:24move, you don't even want to blink,
- 33:26because it seems like a pleasant weight
- 33:28that you feel, something so different,
- 33:30it must be that, magnified to I don't
- 33:32know what degree. So you must really
- 33:35stay prostrated, kind of annihilated
- 33:37indeed. And Lucia describes that the
- 33:39prostration lasts for days.
- 33:41Look,
- 33:42it's not like the moment the angel left
- 33:43, it was over. It's not quite like that
- 33:45. This lasts for days, two, three, four
- 33:49days.
- 33:50My God.
- 33:52And you remain in a sensation of heaven
- 33:53.
- 33:54Uh-huh.
- 33:54And
- 33:55the body doesn't keep up.
- 33:56And the body doesn't keep up. There
- 33:58you go.
- 33:58That's exactly it.
- 33:59Beautiful thing.
- 34:00This is the description of the little
- 34:02shepherds. And that's it. So: Gabriel,
- 34:05he is that angel that later you will...
- 34:07We won't go through every text so this
- 34:09podcast doesn't get too long, but, for
- 34:11example, you have Gideon in chapter 6,
- 34:14a young man who was threshing wheat in
- 34:16a hidden winepress, because the
- 34:18Midianites were setting fire to
- 34:20everything everywhere. His father had
- 34:23built an altar to Baal, which was a
- 34:24false god. And at a certain moment he
- 34:27sees an angel, an angel, he didn't know
- 34:29it was an angel yet, but the angel of
- 34:31the Lord, the word says, he goes and
- 34:33sits under the terebinth of Ophrah. He
- 34:36uses a word for that young man who is
- 34:38dying of fear and is saving his
- 34:40family's bread in the dark. He says:"
- 34:44Hey, courage, valiant warrior. "Then he
- 34:47says:" What do you mean, courage? Look
- 34:48at what is happening. If I were
- 34:49courageous, I wouldn't be here, I would
- 34:51be fighting. "Then he says:" Go with
- 34:53the strength you have. "
- 34:55Uh-huh. Here, this word" go with the
- 34:58strength, "courage, rise up, go, the
- 35:00Lord sent me so that you may
- 35:03Fortitude.
- 35:04It's the experience of those who live
- 35:06with Michael. You are finished. When he
- 35:09arrives and sets you on your feet with
- 35:11Gabriel, he arrives and sets you on
- 35:13your feet. In other words, when we are
- 35:17going through a situation in our lives
- 35:19where we are feeling exactly like that,
- 35:22without strength in the face of a
- 35:25situation we are living, in the sense
- 35:27we are talking about here, we can
- 35:30invoke the help of Saint Gabriel, right
- 35:33? And say, since he is the strength of
- 35:36God, ask:" Gabriel, give me a little of
- 35:38God's strength, come to meet me, help
- 35:40me, assist me. "Can't one make a prayer
- 35:42like that? Yes, he is, he is ready for
- 35:45that. The prayer to Saint Gabriel, at
- 35:47least when I need to connect with him,
- 35:50it is precisely:" Saint Gabriel, look,
- 35:52I first need the Lord to help me find
- 35:54this strength that is in God, right? "
- 35:57Because it doesn't come from him, it
- 35:58comes from the Lord." That in the face
- 36:00of the situation I am living, I am
- 36:01truly giving up, I am tired, help me to
- 36:03stand in my place. "Interesting.
- 36:06He will intercede for you so that you
- 36:09remain in the purpose, asking God to
- 36:12pour out upon your life the gift of
- 36:14fortitude and perseverance in the
- 36:17purpose. Gabriel is that presence,
- 36:20because if you look at it, think
- 36:22carefully about the life of Daniel,
- 36:23Daniel is not at the fulfillment of the
- 36:25promise, he is in the process. He did
- 36:28not see what God showed him happen. So,
- 36:30Gabriel's presence happens in the
- 36:33process before the fulfillment.
- 36:35Sometimes we need strength in the
- 36:38valley, not on the mountain. And it is
- 36:41in the valley that we are tested. And
- 36:42Gabriel, he is present here to help you
- 36:45remain. For example, when you go to the
- 36:50chapter Second Kings, chapter 19,
- 36:52Second Kings, way back, the Old
- 36:54Testament, chapter 19.
- 36:56What page helps me more here? Second is
- 36:59page 421. You have a problem. You have
- 37:07here
- 37:0819,
- 37:09that's it, chapter 19. You have King
- 37:11Hezekiah.
- 37:12Uh-huh.
- 37:13Who is desperate because Assyria is
- 37:15destroying everything, arriving, and
- 37:16striking terror throughout all of
- 37:18Israel. And the and the the King of
- 37:22Assyria sends a letter to Hezekiah
- 37:23saying the following:" Look, here in
- 37:25Galilee I killed children, I did
- 37:27everything that had to be done, horrors
- 37:29, impaled people, anyway, I was I was
- 37:31spreading terrorism. "He arrives in
- 37:34Jerusalem and says:" Did you hear what
- 37:35I did? So I'm going to do it to you
- 37:38there in Jerusalem. Are you not going
- 37:40to open the gate? I'm not going to
- 37:42start. "So what did he do? He would
- 37:44take people and crucify them, impale
- 37:46them, do everything outside so those
- 37:48inside could see what was happening.
- 37:52Hezekiah is terrified. And then the
- 37:55word, verse one, says, says the
- 37:56following:" When King Hezekiah heard
- 37:58this, he tore his clothes, covered
- 37:59himself with sackcloth, and went into
- 38:01the temple of the Lord. He sent the
- 38:04palace administrator, the scribe, and
- 38:06the leading priests to cover themselves
- 38:08in sackcloth. "So, everyone went into
- 38:11penance, asking God for mercy. What are
- 38:14we going to do? We don't have an army.
- 38:17We have no way to respond to this this
- 38:19military force. Lord, we our fathers
- 38:22told us that the Lord in Egypt drowned
- 38:25and destroyed Pharaoh's army. But look,
- 38:28this uncircumcised guy here, he said he
- 38:30will enter the temple, he will steal
- 38:32the ark, he will set fire to everything
- 38:33, he will end your worship. And the
- 38:35Lord has a promise in this city that
- 38:37the Lord said no one would touch the
- 38:38worship. But he said he will do it. And
- 38:41we and then he is before the Lord
- 38:45terrified. Then the word says that the
- 38:48king's servants went to the prophet
- 38:51Isaiah, verse 5. And he answered them.
- 38:54And he answered them:" This is what the
- 38:57Lord says. Do not be afraid of the
- 39:00words you have heard and the insults
- 39:02that the king of Assyria's servants
- 39:04have uttered against me. I will send
- 39:06him a spirit so that when he hears a
- 39:08certain report, he will return to his
- 39:10own land, where I will make him fall by
- 39:13the sword. "The prophet already
- 39:14announces it. Then Isaiah, in a few
- 39:17words, is saying this to Hezekiah:" Are
- 39:20you worried? "" I am. "" Are you afraid
- 39:23? "" I am. "" What did the Lord ask me
- 39:25to do, Isaiah? "Practically Isaiah is
- 39:28saying:" The Lord told me to tell you
- 39:30to go to sleep. Wait a minute.
- 39:35Everything's falling, it's breaking
- 39:36loose here. How so? How am I going to
- 39:38sleep? Go to sleep because the Lord
- 39:41feeds the righteous while they sleep.
- 39:44Okay? "So what happens later on?
- 39:47Chapter is verse 35. See if the guy
- 39:49managed to get some sleep.
- 39:51Verse 35. Next, read it for me, see
- 39:53what happens.
- 39:55Now, that same night, the angel of the
- 39:58Lord appeared in the Assyrian camp and
- 40:01struck down 185,000 men. The next
- 40:05morning, there were only corpses.
- 40:08Guys, 185,000.
- 40:10It wasn't 185, it was 185,000.
- 40:12But one sweep of the angel's sword
- 40:13takes out 200,000, right? That's easy
- 40:15for him.
- 40:16Uh-huh. Sennacherib, king of Assyria,
- 40:19withdrew, returned to his land, and
- 40:22stayed in Nineveh. One day, while he
- 40:26was bowing in the temple of Nisroch,
- 40:30his god, his sons Adrammelech and
- 40:34Sharezer struck him down with the sword
- 40:39and fled to the land of Ararat. His son
- 40:44Esarhaddon succeeded him on the throne.
- 40:47I mean, his own sons killed the guy.
- 40:48Exactly.
- 40:50And they killed him where? Inside a
- 40:51temple,
- 40:52a pagan temple.
- 40:53Exactly. It's what he wanted to do to
- 40:55Hezekiah. He wanted to kill Hezekiah in
- 40:56the presence of the Lord.
- 40:57Of the Lord. And he died
- 40:59in the presence of his false god.
- 41:01After all his people were wiped out.
- 41:03Exactly.
- 41:03No, just 185,000.
- 41:051,000.
- 41:06And the Jewish tradition
- 41:07it's talking about one angel.
- 41:08One angel.
- 41:09It's not talking about an army of
- 41:10angels. No.
- 41:11One angel is enough, Kenia.
- 41:14One angel destroys
- 41:15the entire earth.
- 41:16The entire earth. Rest easy. A single
- 41:19angel.
- 41:20Then I go back to Fatima, right? The
- 41:22angel with the sword pointed, penance,
- 41:24penance, penance, and Our Lady holding
- 41:26the angel's hand, because that
- 41:29is enough to end everything.
- 41:31Our biblical exegesis returns to Fatima
- 41:34every two seconds.
- 41:36But weren't you saying something about
- 41:38the justice of Gabriel? Yes, this here
- 41:40is justice. First thing, look, God
- 41:43sends this angel to the Jews, to the
- 41:45Jewish tradition, because the tradition
- 41:48here says the angel of the Lord, but it
- 41:50is an angel, an angel of God, the
- 41:52correct translation, an angel of God is
- 41:55sent. This angel is Gabriel to them. So
- 41:59, Gabriel is sent to do justice,
- 42:01especially because of the little
- 42:04children who perished by the sword. For
- 42:08the innocents that Sennacherib
- 42:10massacred, Gabriel comes to ask for
- 42:15restitution, for justice. The concept
- 42:18of justice, according to Saint Thomas
- 42:20Aquinas, is to restore or give to
- 42:21another what is due to them, right, Mr.
- 42:23Lawyer? Yes, sir.
- 42:25So, if a person—here I go again—if
- 42:27a person is going through a moment of
- 42:29injustice in their life, for any
- 42:31situation, was wronged, I don't know,
- 42:33at work, wronged by friends, was
- 42:34accused of something that wasn't fair,
- 42:36they can turn to Gabriel's Action to
- 42:38help them in that situation.
- 42:40Ah,
- 42:41Gabriel, he will help you in processes
- 42:43of justice.
- 42:44Interesting.
- 42:46Yeah, so we saw his power here. When he
- 42:50arrives, it's to resolve things. Just
- 42:53the shadow of his wings killed everyone
- 42:55. Well, now let's go to the New
- 42:57Testament.
- 42:58Let's go. Luke chapter 1.
- 43:01Luke.
- 43:03Luke chapter 1. Gospel of Saint Luke
- 43:05chapter 1. We are going to see the
- 43:11beautiful characteristics of this angel
- 43:13, of this powerful being.
- 43:18Luke 1.
- 43:19That's it.
- 43:21At 26?
- 43:22From 5, verse 5, onwards. Yeah.
- 43:27In the time of Herod, king of Judea,
- 43:30there was a priest named Zechariah, of
- 43:32the division of Abijah. His wife, a
- 43:36descendant of Aaron, was named
- 43:37Elizabeth. Both were righteous in the
- 43:42sight of God and observed all the
- 43:44commandments and precepts of the Lord
- 43:48blamelessly, but they had no children
- 43:51because Elizabeth was barren and both
- 43:54were advanced in age. Now, while
- 43:58Zechariah was performing his priestly
- 44:01duties before God in the order of his
- 44:04division, it fell to him by lot,
- 44:07according to the custom among the
- 44:10priests, to enter the sanctuary of the
- 44:13Lord and there offer incense. All the
- 44:17people were waiting outside. No, all
- 44:19the people were outside at the hour of
- 44:22the incense offering. Then an angel of
- 44:26the Lord appeared to him, standing at
- 44:28the right side of the altar of incense.
- 44:32Seeing him, Zechariah was troubled, and
- 44:35fear gripped him.
- 44:37Done. Up to here for now. Zechariah,
- 44:41who was of the division of Abijah, eh,
- 44:44some exegetes say that back then there
- 44:46must have been around more or less over
- 44:5020,000 priests in Israel, each in their
- 44:53own divisions, right? I don't remember
- 44:56now how many divisions eh there were of
- 44:58priests. So, each one took care of a
- 45:00duty, one who took care of the incense
- 45:01altar, another who took care of
- 45:03cleaning, anyway. So, it was, like, for
- 45:05you to be chosen
- 45:08to officiate in the temple at the time
- 45:10of Passover or at the time of such a
- 45:11celebration, it was something that
- 45:13priests lived through that they had
- 45:15never done in their lives.
- 45:17Important, of course,
- 45:18right? So, Zechariah, who lived in the
- 45:21mountains, who was afraid, ashamed,
- 45:23because he had no children; in that
- 45:25time, there was this very strong social
- 45:27pressure. So, how can that be? You are
- 45:30a priest? You serve the Lord, and where
- 45:31is your God who didn't give you a son?
- 45:34So, why go live in the mountainous
- 45:36regions? And so you have Saint Bernard
- 45:40of Clairvaux saying:" Out of shame he
- 45:42did not live on the plain, he lived
- 45:44hidden, he hid himself, he isolated
- 45:47himself, and so with his wife, that
- 45:49love with Elizabeth, they completed
- 45:51each other in solitude and at the same
- 45:54time in the sadness of not having
- 45:56offspring. "And they prayed a lot, for
- 45:59a long time, pleading, asking God for
- 46:01this, to the point that, when he is, by
- 46:04chance, he arrives to be able to offer
- 46:06on the altar of incense, in the midst
- 46:09of the brazier, he is offering incense
- 46:11to the right of the altar, he sees this
- 46:13being in the midst of the fire, this
- 46:16powerful being who is at the altar of
- 46:18God. And this angel, right, said:" Do
- 46:22not be afraid, Zechariah. "Why? Because
- 46:25Zechariah, like Daniel, is in shock.
- 46:27Everyone is, right?
- 46:29Because he terrifies again, his
- 46:31presence is terrifying. You get, yeah,
- 46:33so he stays and he said:" Do not be
- 46:35afraid, Zechariah, because your prayer
- 46:37has been heard. "Just like he spoke to
- 46:40Daniel, and your uh, your wife will
- 46:44give you a son; call him John." Then he
- 46:47talks about what will happen to this
- 46:49boy, anyway. And then the word tells us
- 46:54in verse 18, go on, Bertalo. Verse 18.
- 46:59Zechariah asked the angel: "How will I
- 47:02be sure of this? For I am old and my
- 47:05wife is advanced in age." The angel
- 47:09answered him: I am Gabriel, who stands
- 47:12before God, and I was sent to speak to
- 47:15you and bring you this good news.
- 47:19Behold, you will be silent and unable
- 47:23to speak until the day these things
- 47:26happen, since you did not believe my
- 47:30words, which will be fulfilled in their
- 47:34time. See how
- 47:37however, the Ah, okay here. Oh, you
- 47:41didn't believe. Stay silent. Therefore,
- 47:44you will be silent. Look, look at how
- 47:47strong he is, how he is, it is a sword,
- 47:49it is terrifying. He becomes silent,
- 47:51the people think he died in there, they
- 47:53get worried, he comes out silent, he
- 47:54can't speak. The people understand that
- 47:57he had a vision and will only open his
- 47:59mouth when the baby is born, they said
- 48:02to write the name, months silent. Well,
- 48:05that's taking into account that
- 48:06Elizabeth conceived right away, right?
- 48:08Yeah, actually it's because later there
- 48:10is a chronological idea when the angel
- 48:13appears and speaks to Our Lady, it's
- 48:15been six months that the one who was
- 48:17considered barren is
- 48:19No, that's fine, but from this day at
- 48:21the temple
- 48:22yeah
- 48:23onwards we don't know, for example, if
- 48:25because he says here
- 48:27sa
- 48:28that this would happen in due time.
- 48:31Yes. So imagine that Elizabeth, I don't
- 48:35know, got pregnant two years later.
- 48:38Man, the guy must have really
- 48:39been something, Zechariah mute, doing
- 48:41mime, huh? Who is Zechariah? He learned
- 48:44a new profession, now he's a mime,
- 48:46since he can't speak. Oh, so that's
- 48:48where those people who talk with their
- 48:50fingers came from. Because Zechariah
- 48:52had to manage, man.
- 48:53He managed. Imagine, I'm thirsty, I'm
- 48:56hungry, and let's sleep. Exactly. Or
- 48:58he'd take a little tablet there and
- 49:00keep writing.
- 49:01I personally think that because they
- 49:06lived in the mountains, they lived in a
- 49:08deep retreat of silence.
- 49:11Poor Elizabeth, who wasn't deaf or mute
- 49:14, had to stay quiet. That's not the
- 49:17problem.
- 49:18Or she took advantage of it, like every
- 49:20good wife, to talk a lot and Zechariah
- 49:22couldn't talk back, he just had to
- 49:23listen.
- 49:24No, it's not even that. Just imagine.
- 49:26Yeah, that could be it too, but imagine
- 49:29that she talks to Zechariah. For
- 49:32example, women call their husbands 60
- 49:35times a day, right? Per second. I mean,
- 49:37it's enough, yeah, isn't it? It's
- 49:39enough that you're, like, you're in the
- 49:41room with your wife, she went to the
- 49:43bathroom, 30 seconds pass, you hear
- 49:45your name. Oh, yeah, it's just because
- 49:47you've been lying down for a minute,
- 49:49you know? It's just because you're
- 49:50lying down. There are some things that
- 49:51are like that,
- 49:52people, a woman can't see a man doing
- 49:53nothing without asking for something.
- 49:55There's that.
- 49:56And Ken, Ken, I'm going to have to
- 49:58expose you, but Kenia has the bathroom
- 50:00oracle. Someone talks to Kenia in the
- 50:01bathroom. Then she comes out and says:
- 50:03"I remembered something, you have to do
- 50:05this, this, and this." It's the
- 50:07bathroom oracle. Then his head pops, so
- 50:09he calls it the bathroom oracle.
- 50:11She has an oracle in the bathroom. Are
- 50:13you understanding? She's there brushing
- 50:15her hair, doing her thing, someone
- 50:16talks to her, I don't know who it is,
- 50:18right? And then she starts bringing
- 50:20things up, she brings up subjects from
- 50:2230 years ago.
- 50:22It's true. The worst part is it's true.
- 50:24But didn't you ring the doorbell? I
- 50:26said, I didn't ring the doorbell. Where
- 50:27? Oh, it was at my aunt's house 30
- 50:29years ago. It's the oracle. Do you
- 50:31understand what the bathroom oracle is?
- 50:34The bathroom oracle is something else.
- 50:36Write in the comments bathroom oracle.
- 50:38That's comments. Bathroom oracle.
- 50:40Write that down. No, you can say it
- 50:42like this to the women, if the husbands
- 50:44can say: "It's true, my, my wife does
- 50:46this, and women". I do that too. I go
- 50:49into the bathroom, and inspiration
- 50:50strikes to talk to my husband.
- 50:52No. And so, you, for example, are
- 50:53starting,
- 50:54you Ah, I, I, I've been away from home
- 50:57for some time on a mission. I'm already
- 51:00afraid to go home, because when I get
- 51:02back there are 300,000 ideas she had
- 51:05while I was gone. And
- 51:07that's it. It's stored up. It's a dam
- 51:09that's going to burst when you arrive.
- 51:11Being. It's true.
- 51:13Have you ever just been sitting at home
- 51:15, nice and quiet, just you with
- 51:16yourself, and your name is called every
- 51:1815 seconds? When the kids were
- 51:20it's the oracle, get it? So you already
- 51:24know, when your wife calls you, if she
- 51:26went to the bathroom,
- 51:26get her out of there, man. Block the
- 51:28bathroom.
- 51:28So, so, so we can say then, in light of
- 51:31this interpretation of yours, that
- 51:34Saint Gabriel gave Zechariah a good
- 51:36penance, huh? Yeah,
- 51:39yeah, he really did.
- 51:41Just having to listen to Elizabeth
- 51:42without being able to say anything, or
- 51:44talk back, or say, "be quiet, woman,
- 51:45geez, I'm tired," nothing, he couldn't
- 51:46say a thing.
- 51:47Exactly.
- 51:48Yeah.
- 51:48Because silence precedes the power and
- 51:53the manifestation of God. Whoever has
- 51:57the ability to silence their heart,
- 51:59even amidst the hustle and bustle of
- 52:01life, can hear what the restless do not
- 52:03.
- 52:05It's true.
- 52:06Doubt. Truth.
- 52:08This is something powerful that we
- 52:10learn in this silence, right? For
- 52:13example, for those who come to the
- 52:15sanctuary here at the little chapel of
- 52:18the apparitions here in Rio de Janeiro,
- 52:20for me, having lived in Portugal for a
- 52:23long time, it's beautiful because I'm
- 52:25in Fatima when I come here, right? And
- 52:29silence doesn't just connect you, it
- 52:31puts you in your place. That is very
- 52:34beautiful. So you realize that for
- 52:37Zechariah to understand who visited him
- 52:40, he needed to reflect for 9 months, or
- 52:432 years in your line of thought,
- 52:46because heaven thought of him. Look,
- 52:51Gabriel is saying: "Your prayers have
- 52:54been heard in heaven and God has sent
- 52:56me to you to tell you this happy news:
- 52:59you are going to be a father." And the
- 53:03guy didn't believe it.
- 53:03No. And Gabriel is happy.
- 53:05Of course, all he wanted was to be a
- 53:07father.
- 53:07Gabriel is happy to deliver that
- 53:08message. Imagine you deliver a message,
- 53:10a gift to someone. The person says this
- 53:13: "
- 53:13No, man, look, the one who delivered it
- 53:15was an archangel, right? So, like,
- 53:18uh, okay.
- 53:19And he was incredulous. No, I'm not, no
- 53:21, no, no. Look at his question, his
- 53:25question is different from Our Lady's
- 53:27question. Yeah, we're going to
- 53:30His question is:" How can I be sure of
- 53:32this? "
- 53:33Exactly.
- 53:34Our Lady says:" How will this be? "
- 53:36Exactly.
- 53:37They are distinct things. Our Lady
- 53:39already believed and just asked:"
- 53:41Alright, but how is it going to happen?
- 53:42Tell me about it. "
- 53:43And he said:" But how will I be sure
- 53:44you're not lying to me? "Exactly.
- 53:46The guy wasn't, the guy wasn't cool
- 53:47here, no.
- 53:48No, he wasn't.
- 53:49Because, look, it wasn't, uh, it wasn't
- 53:51another priest who entered the temple
- 53:53to tell him about an inspiration. An
- 53:55archangel appeared right in front of
- 53:56him.
- 53:57Exactly. Exactly.
- 53:58So he really deserved to stay quiet for
- 54:00a while. Honestly.
- 54:02Uh-huh.
- 54:02Or not.
- 54:03Good thing you aren't, you aren't God,
- 54:04huh? Because, damn, no, no, no, no,
- 54:07that couldn't be.
- 54:08Now we're doing this exercise of
- 54:10thinking, right? Eh, oh, he stayed
- 54:12quiet for so long that Elizabeth had to
- 54:14do the talking. We're having a
- 54:17lighthearted conversation to approach
- 54:19the subject in a fun way, but I
- 54:21remember a sermon by Father Léo very
- 54:23well, doing exactly this with Mary,
- 54:25saying that Mary on the donkey, walking
- 54:28for days and days and days...he said:"
- 54:30Folks, Mary was surely stinking, dusty,
- 54:32hungry, tired; she wasn't beautiful,
- 54:35graceful, smelling nice, on top of the
- 54:37donkey, it wasn't like that. "And it's
- 54:40true. It's life as it is.
- 54:42It's exactly that fact, this matter of
- 54:44us taking it and humanizing, because
- 54:46Zechariah existed, he was a person, he
- 54:48was married to Elizabeth, because
- 54:49otherwise it becomes too fanciful.
- 54:52So we're humanizing, man, the guy was
- 54:54shut up for a long time, unable to
- 54:56speak, look at the difficulty, right?
- 54:58Look at all of that. This is important,
- 55:00this exercise, because it brings
- 55:01reality, putting ourselves in their
- 55:03shoes. I even thought just now, would I
- 55:05have replied to the Archangel, to
- 55:07Gabriel, the same thing he said? How am
- 55:10I going to be sure of this? You know?
- 55:12We don't know,
- 55:13man. But it's an archangel, right?
- 55:15Oh, I don't know. But in the moment,
- 55:16can you be sure, man? Right?
- 55:18Everything's fine, right? But the word,
- 55:20this phrase, I had never stopped to
- 55:22think or reflect on this phrase before,
- 55:24no. First time in my life.
- 55:26But how will I be sure of this?
- 55:29Well, let's see what Our Lady said here
- 55:31. Lord,
- 55:31no, now we are going to Our Lady.
- 55:32Oh, we are going to Our Lady. Okay,
- 55:34because it's different.
- 55:35Yes. Now, now another thing occurred to
- 55:40me, that God calls Gabriel, the
- 55:42archangel, but he tells him to notify
- 55:45two people.
- 55:46Yes.
- 55:47He tells him to notify Our Lady and to
- 55:49notify Zechariah.
- 55:50First, he calls him to speak about John
- 55:52the Baptist, then he calls him to speak
- 55:54about Our Lady.
- 55:56Yeah, it couldn't be in the same
- 55:58audience, right? No,
- 56:00no. It is very clear here that he is
- 56:03sent specifically for John the Baptist.
- 56:06Oh, it wasn't on the same trip. No,
- 56:07no, it was six months later that he
- 56:09appears to Our Lady.
- 56:10Oh, that's true.
- 56:12He didn't just take the opportunity to
- 56:13go while he was there, did he?
- 56:15Why? Because when God thinks
- 56:20of you, it is for you, exclusively for
- 56:23you. You have God's exclusivity. Want
- 56:30an example? When the Lord demands
- 56:33Israel to make the covenant happen, he
- 56:37gives the first commandment. Therefore,
- 56:41we learned from Saint Michael in the
- 56:43other podcast.
- 56:46You shall love the Lord your God with
- 56:48all your heart, with all your soul,
- 56:50with all your mind, and with all your
- 56:51strength. What is that? Everything that
- 56:56you are entirely must be turned towards
- 56:59God, all to the Lord. That is
- 57:02exclusivity. God, he doesn't want a
- 57:05third person in the story. There are
- 57:09things that God deals with you that he
- 57:11won't even deal with her.
- 57:12Without a doubt.
- 57:14There are things where God will take
- 57:16you, bring you to a desert where you
- 57:18can scream, kick, ask Our Lady, ask the
- 57:20angels, ask a prophet. God won't send a
- 57:23prophet, won't send anyone, he will
- 57:25deal with you. And I wanted to tell you
- 57:27who is going through a desert. The
- 57:31desert is the place where it is between
- 57:34you and God, no one else. In the desert
- 57:39, Israel stayed 40 years without
- 57:41planting, without harvesting, and the
- 57:44one who feeds them is God. Are you
- 57:46thirsty? Water from the rock. Want to
- 57:48eat meat? Quails from heaven. God
- 57:51personally deals with those in the
- 57:53desert. If you are in the desert, be
- 57:56grateful, because you have the
- 57:58privilege of the Almighty dealing
- 58:00directly with your life. First thing,
- 58:02many people might not be understanding
- 58:04what desert this is that you are
- 58:06defining. Explain it to the people.
- 58:08Aridity, the lack of perception of
- 58:10presence, perhaps that reality.
- 58:12I pray, I pray, and I feel nothing.
- 58:14My life seems lukewarm, stagnant. No,
- 58:18no, nothing ever happens in my life
- 58:19like that. I cry out so much, but I
- 58:21hear nothing, I feel nothing, nothing.
- 58:23Yeah. So you're screaming, asking God
- 58:25to come, and God is already here.
- 58:30Zechariah, in this process of silence,
- 58:33a priest, any Jew, would do the
- 58:35Berakhot at 5 in the morning.
- 58:38Uh-huh.
- 58:39He would wake up in the morning, go to
- 58:41the door, look toward, turn toward the
- 58:43temple, and begin:" Blessed be the Lord
- 58:45, God of Israel. "And bless the Lord
- 58:48out loud, right? And now, how are you
- 58:50going to say the morning prayer? You
- 58:52don't speak?
- 58:55Ah, go there and ba-na-na.
- 58:58No.
- 59:00He learned the prayer of the secret, of
- 59:03interiority, of looking inward, of
- 59:05turning to oneself, of meeting the Lord
- 59:08who is not outside, but inside. That is
- 59:12just beautiful. Now let's talk about
- 59:14time.
- 59:15No, but just a little thing here, look.
- 59:16Yeah, it's that I also located it.
- 59:1823, right?
- 59:19The 23.
- 59:21When his time of service was completed,
- 59:24he returned to his home. After some
- 59:28time, Elizabeth, his wife, conceived.
- 59:31So, it was some time, it wasn't years,
- 59:33no. Some time later. It could even be
- 59:35just a few days.
- 59:36And for.
- 59:36And for 5 months she remained in
- 59:38seclusion, saying:"
- 59:40The Lord has done this for me. In these
- 59:43days he has looked with favor and taken
- 59:46away my disgrace among the people. "In
- 59:49other words, she, she had a pain with
- 59:51this, right?
- 59:51She had a pain. And because she stayed
- 59:53hidden, she should have announced," Hey
- 59:54guys, I'm pregnant! "I'm pregnant.
- 59:56Weren't you all talking about me?
- 59:57But the man was mute, he couldn't tell
- 59:59anyone. No, no. This here has a, has a
- 1:00:01beautiful mystery. The idea is what God
- 1:00:04gave you. First, keep it in secret to
- 1:00:08reveal what God, that which God will
- 1:00:11reveal externally to the masses. First,
- 1:00:14He deals with it inside the house.
- 1:00:16But they would say," Yeah, you adopted
- 1:00:18this child. "
- 1:00:20Exactly.
- 1:00:21But they would say that.
- 1:00:22Yeah, but her belly grew, right, man?
- 1:00:24Yes. The belly grew. Later, people saw
- 1:00:25her with a big belly, right? She didn't
- 1:00:27go out and tell everyone right away,
- 1:00:28but later, people saw. So, all right
- 1:00:31then. And then you have after six
- 1:00:33months, in the sixth month, he will
- 1:00:36visit.
- 1:00:37In the sixth month, the angel Gabriel
- 1:00:40was sent by God to a town in Galilee
- 1:00:42called Nazareth, to a virgin pledged to
- 1:00:45be married to a man named Joseph, of
- 1:00:47the house of David, and the virgin's
- 1:00:50name was Mary. The angel entered and
- 1:00:54said to her," Hail, full of grace. "Oh
- 1:00:58my God, I turned more than one page
- 1:00:59here. Wait a second. The Lord is with
- 1:01:02you. She was troubled by these words
- 1:01:06and began to wonder what such a
- 1:01:09greeting might mean. The angel said to
- 1:01:13her," Do not be afraid, Mary, for you
- 1:01:15have found favor with God. Behold, you
- 1:01:19will conceive and give birth to a son
- 1:01:21and you are to call him Jesus. He will
- 1:01:23be great and will be called the Son of
- 1:01:25the Most High. And the Lord God will
- 1:01:27give him the throne of his father David
- 1:01:29. He will reign over the house of Jacob
- 1:01:32forever, and his kingdom will have no
- 1:01:35end. "Mary asked the angel," How will
- 1:01:38this be, since I am a virgin? "" See,
- 1:01:41she didn't say she didn't believe it. "
- 1:01:43Uh-huh. The angel answered her," The
- 1:01:45Holy Spirit will come on you, and the
- 1:01:48power of the Most High will overshadow
- 1:01:50you. So the holy one to be born of you
- 1:01:53will be called the Son of God. Even
- 1:01:56Elizabeth, your relative, has also
- 1:01:59conceived a son in her old age, and she
- 1:02:02who was said to be barren is in her
- 1:02:05sixth month, for nothing is impossible
- 1:02:08with God. "Then Mary said," I am the
- 1:02:12Lord's servant; may your word to me be
- 1:02:15fulfilled. "And the angel departed from
- 1:02:19her.
- 1:02:20Very well. So, you have here, if you
- 1:02:23look at all the ancient representations
- 1:02:26, uh, of the iconographies, icons, you
- 1:02:29have, for example, uh, the paintings by
- 1:02:32Fra Angelico, who is a Franciscan, who
- 1:02:35are, who is the one who painted the
- 1:02:37Basilica of Assisi. For example, in the
- 1:02:41Annunciation, Gabriel is always before,
- 1:02:43before Zechariah, he is standing;
- 1:02:45before Daniel, he is standing; he is
- 1:02:48imposing, as he is. But before the
- 1:02:50virgin he is bowed like this. That is
- 1:02:54the question, but why is he bowed?
- 1:02:56First, why does he tell her not to be
- 1:02:58afraid? Mary was afraid. Why does he
- 1:03:01say:" Do not be afraid, Mary? ""
- 1:03:02Because what Mary is seeing before her
- 1:03:04is the vision that Daniel saw of a
- 1:03:06being with eyes of fire, right? "
- 1:03:09He repeated, he repeated the phrase he
- 1:03:10said back there to them. To everyone.
- 1:03:13Do not be afraid. Calm down. I didn't
- 1:03:15come here to harm anyone. I am a big
- 1:03:18guy, looking like this with these big
- 1:03:20red eyes, but no, I won't do anything.
- 1:03:22And he is bowing. Why is he bowing? And
- 1:03:25why is it Gabriel and not Michael?
- 1:03:28Precisely for that reason, because it
- 1:03:30is just—that concept of justice again
- 1:03:33, right? Of giving to the other what is
- 1:03:35rightfully theirs. It was an angel who
- 1:03:37deceived a woman in paradise. It was an
- 1:03:40angel who, disguised as a serpent,
- 1:03:42tricked Eve, our first mother, right?
- 1:03:45It’s a fallen angel, isn't it? Of
- 1:03:46course.
- 1:03:47He deceived. He also deceived Adam,
- 1:03:48clearly, both of them. And so we lost
- 1:03:52paradise, we lost the place of Eden.
- 1:03:56And therefore, it is just that among
- 1:03:59the angels, it should also be an angel
- 1:04:01to announce the restitution, and it
- 1:04:04should be the one who is the angel of
- 1:04:06justice who restores in God's name. So,
- 1:04:10when Gabriel enters the place where Our
- 1:04:13Lady is and announces it, Gabriel is
- 1:04:15administering God’s justice
- 1:04:20concerning what Satan tried to do by
- 1:04:22stealing paradise. Now, paradise was a
- 1:04:26place, a garden that was made. Man was
- 1:04:29happy and God met man in that place.
- 1:04:33With Mary's" yes, "even ontologically,
- 1:04:36the place of paradise changes in the
- 1:04:40world and in creation. What do you mean
- 1:04:42by that, Rafa? Paradise is no longer a
- 1:04:45place. Paradise is a person and
- 1:04:46paradise is not outside. Paradise is
- 1:04:48within. Therefore, then, life with God
- 1:04:50becomes what? It becomes an interior,
- 1:04:53internal life. The sacraments of the
- 1:04:55Eucharist, I can adore Jesus, the
- 1:04:56Blessed Sacrament, but that is not the
- 1:04:58end. The end of the most holy sacrament
- 1:05:01of the Eucharist is for me to have God
- 1:05:03inside me. The end of baptism is to
- 1:05:06have you be immersed in life in Christ,
- 1:05:09within Christ. All the sacraments place
- 1:05:12you in God, in Jesus. I really like
- 1:05:16that Eucharistic liturgy of ours in
- 1:05:19Brazil, when it says:" The Lord be with
- 1:05:21you, "we respond:" Our heart is in God.
- 1:05:25"Our life is hidden. Father Jonas,
- 1:05:30right, that song, eh, I don't remember
- 1:05:31the name of the song, but I remember
- 1:05:33what it says, right? I walk through the
- 1:05:35streets without my heart. How does it
- 1:05:36go? You’re the one who sings? Sing it
- 1:05:38then.
- 1:05:38I don't sing.
- 1:05:39I—you were singing there, I was
- 1:05:40seeing you sing better than me.
- 1:05:41I walk through the streets without my
- 1:05:43heart. The lights of this night don't
- 1:05:45hold me anymore, huh?
- 1:05:46I left it in the tabernacle after
- 1:05:48communion and I carry in my breast the
- 1:05:49deepest peace. To me, this song
- 1:05:52demonstrates the mystery of the
- 1:05:54Eucharist in such a way that in my life
- 1:05:57, I walk with the heart of God within
- 1:05:59me, while my life is kept in the
- 1:06:02tabernacle, while my life is kept in
- 1:06:04Jesus. So, therefore, what do you have?
- 1:06:08Through Mary's" yes, "the same Holy
- 1:06:10Spirit, the same Spirit that hovered
- 1:06:12over the waters in chapter 1 of Genesis
- 1:06:15, now hovers over the amniotic fluid of
- 1:06:17Our Lady's womb. Interesting.
- 1:06:21Gabriel is bowing because he is not
- 1:06:23simply before Mary; he
- 1:06:25is before Jesus as well.
- 1:06:26He is before the entire Trinity.
- 1:06:28Yeah,
- 1:06:29he is sent with what he has to say. It
- 1:06:34says:" Oh, you will say this, this, and
- 1:06:36this. "And he leaves the presence of
- 1:06:38the Most Holy Trinity and enters where
- 1:06:40Our Lady is. What he saw in heaven, he
- 1:06:42saw in Our Lady's room. He who he left
- 1:06:45in glory is there. So he is bowing
- 1:06:47before such glory of God's presence
- 1:06:50there, and at the same time, such grace
- 1:06:53—you have found grace before God.
- 1:06:56Hail, full of grace, right? Full of
- 1:06:58grace. Full of grace. Uh, and you have
- 1:07:01here the angel who then announces it,
- 1:07:03and the word says:" And the angel
- 1:07:05departed from her. "Our Lady saw the
- 1:07:07angel only once. Padre Pio used to say
- 1:07:09something beautiful. He said that on
- 1:07:12Christmas night, contemplating the
- 1:07:13manger, the grotto, he says:" Look, see
- 1:07:16, see in the grotto. "You have the
- 1:07:18grotto, and then you have the Holy
- 1:07:21Family, right? Joseph, Mary, and Jesus
- 1:07:23in the manger. The angels up here
- 1:07:25singing. Everyone who is outside sees
- 1:07:28the angels singing. But Our Lady is
- 1:07:30inside the grotto, she doesn't see. She
- 1:07:31sees Christ.
- 1:07:32I mean, the angel appeared to her only
- 1:07:34once. She didn't need extraordinary
- 1:07:37manifestations to say yes to God. So,
- 1:07:41therefore, uh, Gabriel, he is that
- 1:07:44righteousness, and he contemplated for
- 1:07:47the first time, he was the, let's say,
- 1:07:50eyewitness who saw the Word become
- 1:07:53flesh, God descend from heaven and
- 1:07:55become man. That is why he is the angel
- 1:07:58of the Incarnation. Gabriel's mission,
- 1:08:01Gabriel's life, is deeply linked to the
- 1:08:03life of Jesus. To the point that
- 1:08:07Bernard of Clairvaux would go so far as
- 1:08:09to say that Our Lady's guardian angel
- 1:08:11was Gabriel.
- 1:08:14Wow.
- 1:08:15Saint Bernard says this: Because the
- 1:08:18Virgin's mission and the place the
- 1:08:21Virgin held would require an angel of
- 1:08:23such stature.
- 1:08:25Yes. I'm kind of different from
- 1:08:26everything. Sure.
- 1:08:27It's different from Jesus. Someone once
- 1:08:29asked me, did Jesus have a guardian
- 1:08:30angel? No, Jesus doesn't have a
- 1:08:32guardian angel because he is the Lord
- 1:08:33of the angels.
- 1:08:34He doesn't need one,
- 1:08:35doesn't need one. He guards the angels
- 1:08:37even while incarnate.
- 1:08:39In other words, he doesn't have one,
- 1:08:40yet at the same time, he has them all.
- 1:08:42He is their life, right? He is the
- 1:08:44reason for the angels.
- 1:08:45Exactly. Exactly.
- 1:08:46Very good. That's Gabriel.
- 1:08:48That's Gabriel. But anyway, you
- 1:08:50still have two here. Let me tell you a
- 1:08:52very interesting story.
- 1:08:55Uh, I was talking to Sami, Sami Marcile
- 1:08:57, who many people know, right? She was
- 1:09:00here on the podcast too. And she said
- 1:09:04to me:" Kenia, Henrique Lima, who was
- 1:09:06also here on the podcast, told me a
- 1:09:08story, and well... "Then she went ahead
- 1:09:10and told me the story, and I found it
- 1:09:12very interesting, so I called Henrique
- 1:09:14and said," Henrique, tell me this story
- 1:09:17. "And he told me the story. It's as
- 1:09:20follows: he was...he was praying. And
- 1:09:23Henrique has a beautiful conversion
- 1:09:25story. He's from the Assembly of God
- 1:09:27and had a beautiful conversion years
- 1:09:28ago, and he does beautiful work against
- 1:09:30abortion; anyway, he's a really great
- 1:09:32guy. He has been on our podcast twice:
- 1:09:34once telling the story of his
- 1:09:35conversion and another time talking
- 1:09:37about abortion, right, about the
- 1:09:38gravity of abortion. So, for those who
- 1:09:40haven't watched it, it's worth watching
- 1:09:42. And he said he was praying and went
- 1:09:44to sleep. And before sleeping, he said
- 1:09:47the following prayer. I'll put it in my
- 1:09:48own words; it won't be exact, but
- 1:09:50you'll understand the general context."
- 1:09:53Uh, my angel, my angel, I would really
- 1:09:55like to see you, not for me to be
- 1:09:56glorified, not for my glory, not for
- 1:09:58any of that, but to increase my faith.
- 1:10:00"He said that prayer, and he prayed
- 1:10:03with great contrition, with a lot of
- 1:10:05faith, and went to sleep. Suddenly, in
- 1:10:08the middle of the night, he wakes up
- 1:10:09because he sees a bright light, and he
- 1:10:11immediately realizes that they...they
- 1:10:12have children, right? That he is with
- 1:10:14his wife, his wife is by his side, he
- 1:10:15sees that his wife is sleeping, he sees
- 1:10:17that this light wasn't, you know, one
- 1:10:19of his children getting up and turning
- 1:10:20on the light, nothing like that. He
- 1:10:22sees a bright light. When he looks at
- 1:10:24the bedroom ceiling, he sees two wings,
- 1:10:26two shadows of wings that are huge,
- 1:10:28huge, and he becomes completely
- 1:10:29entranced. Then he goes to lo-, when he
- 1:10:33looks, he sees two red eyes staring at
- 1:10:35him. Then he asks:" Is that you, my
- 1:10:38angel? Is that you, my angel? "He asked
- 1:10:41twice and then that image disappeared.
- 1:10:44He said that he immediately went back
- 1:10:46to sleep,
- 1:10:47he didn't just dwell on it, thinking,
- 1:10:49ecstatic. He just went back to sleep.
- 1:10:51The next day, when he woke up, he
- 1:10:53remembered everything. It wasn't like a
- 1:10:55dream you had early in the night that
- 1:10:57you forgot.
- 1:10:58He woke up and remembered, he
- 1:10:59remembered everything.
- 1:11:00And he was very impressed by this dream
- 1:11:02. So I sent this story to Rafael.
- 1:11:05Uh-huh.
- 1:11:06Right? I said:" Rafael, look at this.
- 1:11:08He told me all this just now. Please,
- 1:11:10give Henrique an answer for this, and
- 1:11:12for everyone watching, because it's so
- 1:11:14interesting. "I said," But was it
- 1:11:15really an angel of God? How does that
- 1:11:17work? "I found the first question you
- 1:11:18asked me interesting. The first
- 1:11:21question, I'll bring it up because
- 1:11:23we've talked about so much, you might
- 1:11:24not remember. The first question you
- 1:11:26asked me was, is he a man connected to
- 1:11:28justice? You asked me that question. I
- 1:11:31said:" Is h-What is he? "
- 1:11:32He is a prosecutor for the Public
- 1:11:34Ministry of the Court of Accounts. And
- 1:11:37then I said:" Yes, he is connected to
- 1:11:39justice. "Then you said," Tell me what
- 1:11:41you said. "
- 1:11:42I said:" It's Gabriel he saw, because
- 1:11:44of Daniel's vision that had eyes of
- 1:11:46fire. "Because then you might say:" But
- 1:11:49wasn't it a demon? "No. If it were a
- 1:11:50demon, he wouldn't have been at peace
- 1:11:52like he was.
- 1:11:52He was at peace. He said he was at
- 1:11:54peace
- 1:11:54and it got him back on his feet, it
- 1:11:56strengthened him inwardly. It was a
- 1:11:59visit, an extraordinary visit in his
- 1:12:01life.
- 1:12:01And what I found incredible was you
- 1:12:03asking, is he, does he work with
- 1:12:05justice?
- 1:12:06Yeah, the discernment comes to my heart
- 1:12:07right away.
- 1:12:08To see, because Gabriel is connected to
- 1:12:11justice with red eyes. Did you already
- 1:12:13make the whole connection? I said:" Wow
- 1:12:15. "And he said:" He didn't answer me
- 1:12:16anything. "I said:" But you only asked
- 1:12:18to see, you didn't ask to hear, did you
- 1:12:19?
- 1:12:20You didn't say: 'I want to see you and
- 1:12:21hear you.' You said: 'I want to see you
- 1:12:22.' He went there. "
- 1:12:23Anyone who deals with lawyers, anyone
- 1:12:25who works in the legal field, you have
- 1:12:28to be cut and dried. Don't beat around
- 1:12:30the bush too much. They don't like
- 1:12:31dragging things out. Gabriel is exactly
- 1:12:33the same. Don't stall me. What do you
- 1:12:35want? Speak. You asked to see me, I'm
- 1:12:37here. You didn't ask for anything else.
- 1:12:38Bye.
- 1:12:40I loved that. Next time, Henrique Lima,
- 1:12:43next time you ask:" My angel, I want to
- 1:12:45see you and hear you. "Bragged." And
- 1:12:48there, done, you get the full combo. "
- 1:12:49There's there's a dialogue with you.
- 1:12:51My Bar Association ID is even red.
- 1:12:54No, look at that,
- 1:12:56look,
- 1:12:57look there, look there, look there.
- 1:12:59Red Bar Association ID. You know the
- 1:13:02Bar ID, a side note,
- 1:13:04yeah,
- 1:13:04right? I kissed my Bar ID more than my
- 1:13:07diploma, because that exam is much
- 1:13:10harder. That exam is agonizing, it's a
- 1:13:13test.
- 1:13:14But then Saint Gabriel interceded.
- 1:13:16Yeah, he interceded, man. It must be.
- 1:13:18Have you ever seen a Bar exam in your
- 1:13:20life?
- 1:13:20No.
- 1:13:21At any competition site?
- 1:13:22I've seen the ones coming back from the
- 1:13:23exam?
- 1:13:24No, the ones coming back from the exam
- 1:13:25is fine. But like, I took it there at
- 1:13:27UERJ and it looked like an airport.
- 1:13:30Imagine a 15-story building that looks
- 1:13:32like an airport. Everyone with luggage,
- 1:13:34rolling suitcases,
- 1:13:36yes, all the students with rolling
- 1:13:37suitcases. Because it's that exam where
- 1:13:39you can consult everything.
- 1:13:42So you bring
- 1:13:43And but you won't be able to consult
- 1:13:44everything
- 1:13:44no? So stay calm. Either you know it
- 1:13:47or you don't.
- 1:13:47It's a bombshell. In my exam, only 87%
- 1:13:51failed.
- 1:13:53My God.
- 1:13:54There are a lot of poorly educated
- 1:13:55people, right? Who don't study.
- 1:13:5713%passed.
- 1:14:00Let me ask you something. You and I
- 1:14:01remember the episode we did on Saint
- 1:14:04Michael, right? You talking about the
- 1:14:06armor, the sword, and all that, but
- 1:14:08Saint Gabriel, a different take on the
- 1:14:09attire. Now I'm I'm on the attire of
- 1:14:12the archangels. Something else. right?
- 1:14:15Because he doesn't have he doesn't have
- 1:14:16anything, a sword, he has nothing in
- 1:14:18his hand. It's a it's a white robe with
- 1:14:20how is it
- 1:14:23But he doesn't have a little sword?
- 1:14:24Really? An archangel without a sword.
- 1:14:26Well, when he appears to
- 1:14:28he appears with the scales of justice.
- 1:14:30No, that's that's Saint Michael,
- 1:14:33but he isn't the one from Now you're
- 1:14:34confusing my thoughts. Wait a minute.
- 1:14:36No, the attribute of the scales belongs
- 1:14:38to Saint Michael, who weighs souls.
- 1:14:40Oh,
- 1:14:40that's not that scale over there, it's
- 1:14:41not a
- 1:14:41The one of justice is different. Speak.
- 1:14:43Oh, I see. Understood. Understood. The
- 1:14:46one of justice.
- 1:14:46No, so it was important to mention that
- 1:14:48too. Well, notice that when the angel
- 1:14:50Gabriel appears to Daniel, he is not.
- 1:14:54He is dressed in white, dressed with
- 1:14:57this golden belt around his waist, but
- 1:15:00he is saying:" I left Michael in my
- 1:15:03place fighting the Prince of Persia. "
- 1:15:07So he must have combat attire as well.
- 1:15:09He does, but to announce he lays down
- 1:15:11his arms. Oh, how beautiful. I liked
- 1:15:14that.
- 1:15:15He wouldn't go all armed, right? The
- 1:15:16guy isn't going to announce with a
- 1:15:17rifle too. It can't be like that.
- 1:15:19And one of the titles of Saint Gabriel
- 1:15:23that the church uses is Nuncio of God.
- 1:15:26Oh, great.
- 1:15:27What does the Nuncio do?
- 1:15:28The Nuncio is the ambassador.
- 1:15:30What does the Nuncio, the ambassador,
- 1:15:32do?
- 1:15:32So, what does the Apostolic Nuncio do?
- 1:15:35Or rather, what does the ambassador do?
- 1:15:38The state, so to speak, has two primary
- 1:15:42officials, let's say. What are they?
- 1:15:48The ambassador's team, that is, the
- 1:15:49Foreign Ministry, or rather, the
- 1:15:53huh, diplomats or the soldiers? They
- 1:15:59are the two, the two primary officials
- 1:16:01of a state: the soldier and the
- 1:16:03ambassador. So, the
- 1:16:08in other words, all diplomats, consuls,
- 1:16:10the...an Apostolic Nuncio is an
- 1:16:12ambassador of the Holy See, of the Holy
- 1:16:14Father in a country. So he is the one
- 1:16:19who speaks in their name, right, who
- 1:16:21speaks,
- 1:16:22that is, who represents them. He does
- 1:16:24not have the final word. The final word
- 1:16:26is with the Pope; he represents that
- 1:16:28country, that is, he is a delegate
- 1:16:31from that country to that nation.
- 1:16:33It's
- 1:16:34the same thing for the Nuncio. So the
- 1:16:36Apostolic Nuncio does that. The
- 1:16:38Brazilian ambassador, I don't know, in
- 1:16:40Paris, and the Brazilian ambassador, I
- 1:16:42don't know, in Malaysia, I don't know.
- 1:16:45It's just that when a president fights,
- 1:16:46the first thing they do is pull the
- 1:16:48embassy out of there. Bring the
- 1:16:49ambassador here.
- 1:16:50What is And what is the reciprocal
- 1:16:52thing? First of all, what happens when
- 1:16:55something like that occurs, if an
- 1:16:57ambassador is expelled from the country
- 1:17:00, the one here also leaves at the same
- 1:17:02time.
- 1:17:04The other thing is, one of the most
- 1:17:06serious acts before expulsion is when
- 1:17:08you summon the ambassador to give you
- 1:17:11clarification.
- 1:17:12OK?
- 1:17:12That is one of the most serious things
- 1:17:14there is. So, uh, and making an analogy
- 1:17:18to this nuncio, this ambassador, uh,
- 1:17:21the, the, the angel speaks in God's
- 1:17:24name.
- 1:17:25Yes.
- 1:17:26He does not speak for God.
- 1:17:27Yes,
- 1:17:28he speaks what God ordered.
- 1:17:29Exactly.
- 1:17:29He doesn't, he doesn't act as
- 1:17:32It's like an ambassador doesn't do that
- 1:17:33either as an apostolic nuncio. For
- 1:17:35example, the
- 1:17:36you said he is a nuncio, what did you
- 1:17:37say?
- 1:17:38Nuncio of God. Nuncio of God.
- 1:17:40Yes, meaning he announces what God
- 1:17:42desires, right? the will of
- 1:17:44apostolic nuncio who is at the United
- 1:17:46Nations.
- 1:17:46Yes,
- 1:17:47he speaks in the Pope's name at the
- 1:17:49United Nations, in fact he was here,
- 1:17:51celebrated here.
- 1:17:51What a blessing.
- 1:17:52One of them, right? Since it has
- 1:17:53already changed now.
- 1:17:54So look, when Gabriel then appears to
- 1:17:57Our Lady, it's an angel, but he
- 1:18:00received the message as an ambassador
- 1:18:03of how he had to announce it to her.
- 1:18:05That is why Gabriel's attributes,
- 1:18:07he has the scroll in his hand," Ave "
- 1:18:09full of grace, right? But this scroll,
- 1:18:11actually, is the message. There is
- 1:18:14another one which is the lily, which
- 1:18:16represents purity. He is the guardian
- 1:18:19of the children, of the baptized
- 1:18:20children, for example, of vocations. He
- 1:18:23is the protector of altar boys, of
- 1:18:25vocations.
- 1:18:26Oh, I didn't know that.
- 1:18:26It's Saint Gabriel.
- 1:18:27Interesting.
- 1:18:28Of purity. He is the angel who protects
- 1:18:31children during their first communion.
- 1:18:34So, why? Because he is precisely linked
- 1:18:37to this reality of of the birth, of the
- 1:18:42incarnation, of all this early
- 1:18:44childhood. He is considered the
- 1:18:46archangel of childhood, of early
- 1:18:47childhood. I wonder if at births he,
- 1:18:49together with the baby's guardian angel
- 1:18:51, also assists there, is there to
- 1:18:52protect that child, something like that
- 1:18:54.
- 1:18:54He is part of, he enters into the
- 1:18:56profound mystery of the mystery of the
- 1:18:58incarnation, right? To the point that,
- 1:19:01uh, if we take the three archangels, it
- 1:19:04is not by chance when we, it's just to
- 1:19:07give an overview that in the
- 1:19:10iconographic tradition, the visit of
- 1:19:13the three angels, of the three men who
- 1:19:16appear to Abraham, right? You have the
- 1:19:19Jewish tradition, it will say that it
- 1:19:21is Michael, Gabriel and Raphael, those
- 1:19:22three men. And the church will see it
- 1:19:26as a theophany. the presence of the
- 1:19:29Holy Trinity visiting Abraham. So, for
- 1:19:33the Jewish and Christian tradition, at
- 1:19:35the same time, you have Michael, who
- 1:19:37goes to liberate uh Abraham. You have
- 1:19:42Gabriel who goes to announce the birth
- 1:19:44of Isaac and Raphael who goes to cure
- 1:19:46Sarah's sterility. These three, at the
- 1:19:49same time, for Eastern angelology—
- 1:19:51when I say Eastern, I'm not talking
- 1:19:54about the East in Asia, I'm talking
- 1:19:56about Eastern Catholic theology, okay?
- 1:19:59Uh, Greek, Byzantine, anyway. Michael
- 1:20:03is deeply linked, when he expresses
- 1:20:04himself, to the glory of God the Father
- 1:20:06. He is the one who defends the
- 1:20:09Father's glory, the will of God the
- 1:20:10Father for his son to become incarnate.
- 1:20:12Anyway, Gabriel is deeply linked to the
- 1:20:14mystery of Christ, the mystery of the
- 1:20:16Word, the second person of the Trinity.
- 1:20:18So you have him here in the
- 1:20:20Annunciation, him with Our Lady, and so
- 1:20:22on. And Raphael is deeply linked to the
- 1:20:25reality of the Holy Spirit. So much so
- 1:20:29that when he is sent into the life of
- 1:20:31Tobias, of Tobit, Tobit goes blind on
- 1:20:33the feast of Pentecost. So you see,
- 1:20:37these archangels, they express, right,
- 1:20:39they clearly always express God in the
- 1:20:42Holy Trinity, but they express in their
- 1:20:45own way the virtues and, at the same
- 1:20:47time, the characteristics of the divine
- 1:20:50persons. So, Gabriel, if you want to be
- 1:20:55close to him, be very close to Our Lady
- 1:20:58, because he saw the conception of Our
- 1:21:01Lady, the Immaculate Conception of the
- 1:21:04Virgin Mary. That is
- 1:21:08intimate.
- 1:21:09Look, this is really cool, guys. And
- 1:21:11it's important for us to learn this.
- 1:21:13Now, I remembered something here. Uh,
- 1:21:17we are talking, right, about the
- 1:21:19conception and the angel being near. Uh
- 1:21:22, it's because someone sent me a
- 1:21:24message and I know that many women,
- 1:21:26many couples, go through this pain,
- 1:21:29which is losing a baby.
- 1:21:30Yes.
- 1:21:32And she, and she asked like this:"
- 1:21:33Kenia, what happens to these babies? "
- 1:21:36People don't talk about this. And it's
- 1:21:38a pain, and it really is a very great
- 1:21:40pain. You are waiting for that baby,
- 1:21:42right? Or that baby, you had that
- 1:21:43miscarriage, you lost that baby while
- 1:21:45pregnant or just after it was born,
- 1:21:47anyway. And she said:" Talk a little,
- 1:21:50see, I needed to know something about
- 1:21:52what happens to the soul of this baby.
- 1:21:55"So, it's important for us to talk
- 1:21:57about this. And I remembered just now
- 1:21:59because we are talking about Gabriel
- 1:22:00and, anyway, Gabriel and conception and
- 1:22:02children and all that. I think it's
- 1:22:04nice. Summarizing, because this enters
- 1:22:07into the part of eschatology, but what
- 1:22:09does the church think about children
- 1:22:11who passed away, who weren't baptized?
- 1:22:13Maybe you want to ask about this, that
- 1:22:16the child who wasn't baptized, are they
- 1:22:18in heaven? How does it work?
- 1:22:20Exactly. You lost it while pregnant,
- 1:22:21right?
- 1:22:21The child wasn't baptized. That was a
- 1:22:24discussion from the time of Saint
- 1:22:25Augustine, then there was the reality
- 1:22:26of limbo, anyway, it’s all a
- 1:22:27theological discussion. But, in fact,
- 1:22:31if you look at the Holy Innocents that
- 1:22:34we celebrate after Christmas, Jesus
- 1:22:36hadn't died yet, the mystery of
- 1:22:39redemption hadn't happened yet. He is a
- 1:22:43newborn Jesus. You have another reality
- 1:22:46with the Holy Innocents, as they
- 1:22:47weren't even circumcised, therefore
- 1:22:49they didn't even have the first
- 1:22:50covenant. And the Church celebrates
- 1:22:52them, they celebrate them as holy
- 1:22:54innocents. Does the Church have the
- 1:22:56Holy Innocents?
- 1:22:57But not ones that preceded Jesus, right
- 1:22:58? No, they precede Jesus.
- 1:23:01These children are contemporaries of
- 1:23:02Jesus, the ones Herod orders to be
- 1:23:03killed, right?
- 1:23:04So,
- 1:23:04exactly. But Jesus hadn't yet suffered
- 1:23:07on the cross and
- 1:23:08ah, so the celebration was already that
- 1:23:10. I mean, the celebration became that
- 1:23:12because of those children Herod killed.
- 1:23:14Exactly. So, I'm saying, these children
- 1:23:16didn't receive sacraments, they weren't
- 1:23:18even circumcised, apparently. So, the
- 1:23:21Church has always seen it that way,
- 1:23:23which is why there are funeral rites
- 1:23:25for unbaptized children, because of
- 1:23:27that phrase of Jesus," let the little
- 1:23:29children come to me, for theirs is the
- 1:23:31kingdom of heaven. "So, the Church has
- 1:23:34always understood that the Lord has
- 1:23:35always wanted these children close.
- 1:23:38These children do not have the age of
- 1:23:40reason; they possess original sin, but
- 1:23:43they don't have the deliberation, the
- 1:23:45will, the awareness of right and wrong.
- 1:23:50So, the Church over time, there's even
- 1:23:51a document from the International
- 1:23:52Theological Commission that deals with
- 1:23:54this subject. And in the end, after
- 1:23:57going through the entire journey across
- 1:24:00all areas of theology, it reaches the
- 1:24:03conclusion that the Lord welcomes them
- 1:24:06in His infinite mercy. In such a way
- 1:24:11that yes, there are funeral rites for
- 1:24:14children who were not baptized, but if
- 1:24:18someone did that, it’s not a
- 1:24:21tradition, I mean, a tradition that is
- 1:24:24always done. The child died. Oh, let's
- 1:24:28celebrate a seventh-day mass for that
- 1:24:30baby who
- 1:24:31was lost. Someone lost one?
- 1:24:33There is no seventh-day mass for a
- 1:24:35child who died. No,
- 1:24:36there isn't. Why? They return to heaven
- 1:24:38. They go straight to heaven, okay?
- 1:24:40Together with
- 1:24:40So, you who asked this question, I know
- 1:24:42, and I want to give you a hug. This
- 1:24:45pain that no mother deserves, and this
- 1:24:47pain of a mother who loses a child,
- 1:24:49only Our Lady can truly understand your
- 1:24:51pain. Have hope that one day you will
- 1:24:54hold them in your arms again.
- 1:24:55Yes. And besides that, the children too
- 1:24:58, those who passed away spontaneously
- 1:25:00or passed away very young, but those
- 1:25:02who were aborted.
- 1:25:03Yes.
- 1:25:04Who were martyrs.
- 1:25:05Yes.
- 1:25:05Yes. Exactly,
- 1:25:06right? They were killed in the womb.
- 1:25:08They didn't ask to die, nor did they
- 1:25:09kill themselves, right? They were
- 1:25:11murdered and are also in heaven.
- 1:25:12We are talking about induced abortion."
- 1:25:14I'm going to remove this baby, "right?
- 1:25:15That's what we're talking about. But
- 1:25:17God also takes these souls back to
- 1:25:19heaven.
- 1:25:19Yes. And the angels of these children
- 1:25:21are with them. The angels of these
- 1:25:24children...even one, like this:" Mommy,
- 1:25:26if you're ever missing, if you're
- 1:25:29missing your baby, your child who has
- 1:25:31departed, uh, so that you, if, if it
- 1:25:33were something canonical, safe, light a
- 1:25:37candle for the guardian angel of your
- 1:25:39child who departed and tell him: 'Give
- 1:25:40them a hug for me, okay?' "" Wherever
- 1:25:42they are, and know that the angel who
- 1:25:43is holy, who is in the glory of God,
- 1:25:45will do it. "
- 1:25:47Yeah, that's beautiful. And a kiss,
- 1:25:49right? You want to say a kiss.
- 1:25:50Kiss. A kiss. And a kiss for me. Give a
- 1:25:52kiss for me, a hug for me. Then the
- 1:25:55angel goes there and—oh my God in
- 1:25:57heaven, beautiful.
- 1:26:00Treat angels like real people and you
- 1:26:02will change your vision of what heaven
- 1:26:04is capable of doing on earth.
- 1:26:08I have no doubt about that. Zero doubt.
- 1:26:11Angels really help us, and a lot.
- 1:26:15Yeah, I got emotional imagining the
- 1:26:16angel there kissing them. Can you
- 1:26:18imagine? Yeah, anyway, guys, let me
- 1:26:21compose myself here because really,
- 1:26:23right, especially for—thank God I
- 1:26:25haven't gone through a—through a loss
- 1:26:27like that, but I imagine how difficult
- 1:26:29it must be for these women,
- 1:26:32right? No. And can you imagine, Kenia,
- 1:26:34for example, in the glory of the Lord,
- 1:26:36among that multitude that sings and
- 1:26:37worships before the Lord? I'm going to
- 1:26:40get emotional now too. Oh my God, now
- 1:26:41I'm the one who's going to cry again.
- 1:26:43Uh,
- 1:26:45before all of that, an angel comes and
- 1:26:49says this, thinking about my little
- 1:26:52brother that my mom lost when he was 8
- 1:26:54months old, my middle brother, right?
- 1:26:57Julio, remember when it had—when this
- 1:26:59thing about dengue started? That car,
- 1:27:02the fogging car, spraying that poison.
- 1:27:04So, my brother, he was born like me,
- 1:27:06with many respiratory problems, and Mom
- 1:27:08worked at the time and she was washing
- 1:27:10clothes in the back of the house, in
- 1:27:12the backyard, and the—and the window
- 1:27:14was open because it was hot. Then that
- 1:27:16car drove by and blew smoke, and all
- 1:27:19the smoke got inside. My brother
- 1:27:20inhaled that and died because of it.
- 1:27:23Seriously?
- 1:27:23Wow.
- 1:27:24My brother died from that.
- 1:27:25He was eight months old.
- 1:27:27Yes, months. His name was Júlio César
- 1:27:29. Yeah, little Julinho. Your mother
- 1:27:31must have been desperate.
- 1:27:32My mother still is to this day. Sending
- 1:27:34a kiss to mom, if mom is watching. Mom
- 1:27:36is still that way. Mom has, has pain,
- 1:27:38longing. My mother hasn't been the same
- 1:27:40since she lost Julinho. She has me, she
- 1:27:42has Juanito, Juanito, my brother. But
- 1:27:44Julinho is the pain, like, one day I
- 1:27:47want to find my son again. Yeah.
- 1:27:52Sometimes, when I'm going through a
- 1:27:55trial where I need a special grace
- 1:27:57related to my family's reality, even my
- 1:28:00mother's reality, I go there, take a
- 1:28:02candle, light it for Julinho’s
- 1:28:05guardian angel and say:" Holy angel of
- 1:28:07Julinho, please, he is there in heaven,
- 1:28:10I would like you to do me a favor. "
- 1:28:14Tell him that I, his older brother,
- 1:28:16Rafael, love him very much. Give him a
- 1:28:20hug for me. Send him my care, my
- 1:28:23affection. Now imagine, it happens, the
- 1:28:26angel arrives and says:" Look,
- 1:28:29so-and-so, Bertaldo, your son, your
- 1:28:32nephew, your grandson, asked me to tell
- 1:28:35you that he loves you, that he hasn't
- 1:28:38forgotten you. "" He's praying the
- 1:28:40rosary for you today. "Okay? Just to
- 1:28:41let you know. That is the communion of
- 1:28:44saints.
- 1:28:45That is the communion of saints because
- 1:28:46it's real. Wow.
- 1:28:49How beautiful. I've already sent so
- 1:28:50many kisses to my father since you
- 1:28:52taught me that.
- 1:28:52Yeah.
- 1:28:53Wow, I've sent so many kisses to my
- 1:28:54father. To my father's guardian angel.
- 1:28:56Go there, give him a kiss for me. Guys,
- 1:28:58I really miss him, you know? Give him a
- 1:29:00hug too. I've already sent several,
- 1:29:01guys. Seriously. Every now and then I
- 1:29:03send another kiss. He's going to say,
- 1:29:04another kiss, girl? It's another kiss.
- 1:29:06Another kiss.
- 1:29:07The theology of the communion of saints
- 1:29:08is something real, concrete. We profess
- 1:29:09this in the Creed," I believe in the
- 1:29:11communion of saints. "No one delves
- 1:29:14into this.
- 1:29:15We have to delve into it. There's so
- 1:29:17much to delve into in our Catholic
- 1:29:19faith, about how God created all this
- 1:29:21for our good, for our joy, isn't there?
- 1:29:24And so that everyone may be happy. Yeah
- 1:29:26.
- 1:29:26We have to do this. That is a mission
- 1:29:28of Anima,
- 1:29:29that
- 1:29:30doing this, reaching hearts, bringing
- 1:29:32good content, bringing good formation,
- 1:29:35isn't it? Now with the Anima community
- 1:29:38that is being launched, many great
- 1:29:41classes, right? So, many teachers,
- 1:29:43including you, will also be a teacher.
- 1:29:46So, like, we, I think it will do an
- 1:29:48incredible good to souls.
- 1:29:50Knowledge
- 1:29:52is an incredible good,
- 1:29:53my goodness, it sets you free, right?
- 1:29:54And it transforms everything, wow.
- 1:29:55Impressive.
- 1:29:56It makes us be Catholic in another way.
- 1:29:58Yes,
- 1:29:58deeper. Isn't it? It's not something
- 1:30:01like, if the wind blows, I don't want
- 1:30:03to be Catholic. On the contrary,
- 1:30:05sometimes the priest wasn't nice to me,
- 1:30:07I'm leaving the church, I'm doing this
- 1:30:08or that. There are things like that,
- 1:30:10right?
- 1:30:10Yeah, there are things that have
- 1:30:11nothing to do with it, right? But
- 1:30:12what can you do? I enjoyed it immensely
- 1:30:14.
- 1:30:14Look, Rafa. Very good, you see?
- 1:30:16Spectacular, really, everyone. This is
- 1:30:19the second episode. We already had
- 1:30:22Saint Michael, today is Saint Gabriel
- 1:30:24and we will still have Saint
- 1:30:26my love, Saint Raphael.
- 1:30:28Ah, with that name Saint Raphael.
- 1:30:30My great friend, huh? My great friend.
- 1:30:32And I want to remind everyone watching
- 1:30:35who wants blessings from Saint Gabriel.
- 1:30:37So come on, guys, subscribe to the
- 1:30:39channel, comment, say Saint, write
- 1:30:41there that Saint Gabriel is the
- 1:30:43Strength of God. Put it, write it.
- 1:30:44That's it. Strength of God. Write
- 1:30:46Strength of God there and send this
- 1:30:48episode. Give it a like, send this
- 1:30:50episode to all your acquaintances to
- 1:30:52see. Look at the richness we talked
- 1:30:53about here.
- 1:30:54Yes,
- 1:30:54right? Nobody can be left out.
- 1:30:57I wanted to take the opportunity to
- 1:30:59invite you to 10 PM from Monday to
- 1:31:00Saturday, I pray the powerful Rosary of
- 1:31:03the Angels on my channel Rafael Brito,
- 1:31:05Apostolate of the Holy Angels. And
- 1:31:07there we pray asking for their
- 1:31:08intercession as well.
- 1:31:10Wait a minute, say it again. What is
- 1:31:11the channel? Rafael Brito.
- 1:31:12That's on YouTube.
- 1:31:13On YouTube. Apostolate of Saint Raphael
- 1:31:16and the Holy Angels.
- 1:31:17Very well.
- 1:31:18At 10 PM, come. Let's pray with the
- 1:31:20angels. Excellent.
- 1:31:20Every day.
- 1:31:21Every day.
- 1:31:22Ah, but there is also an event that you
- 1:31:23will be doing.
- 1:31:24There is an event at Canção Nova,
- 1:31:26from November 1st to 3rd.
- 1:31:28What is the event called?
- 1:31:29Secret.
- 1:31:30I love that name. Secret.
- 1:31:31It is secret because it is precisely
- 1:31:33the place where the angels dwell and
- 1:31:34adore God. An adoration event. It will
- 1:31:37also be a landmark, because it will
- 1:31:38mark the return of Father Cristian
- 1:31:40Chancara to preach at Canção Nova.
- 1:31:41Look how wonderful, oh. Bring Father
- 1:31:43Cristian here.
- 1:31:44I already told him, he said he's coming
- 1:31:45.
- 1:31:45Yay. And very good, very good, very
- 1:31:47good. The event won't be broadcast,
- 1:31:49right? So you have to go to Canção
- 1:31:50Nova. In person. Let's go guys, to
- 1:31:52Canção Nova,
- 1:31:52in person. Free registration, so come
- 1:31:54along.
- 1:31:54That's it. Wonderful.
- 1:31:56Organize your caravan.
- 1:31:57That's it.
- 1:31:57Very well.
- 1:31:58Rafael Brito, thank you so much. We
- 1:32:00loved it. I'm so excited for our third
- 1:32:02episode.
- 1:32:02Yay. It’s going to be beautiful,
- 1:32:03everyone. God bless you, okay? Big kiss
- 1:32:06. Bye
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